1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: Donald Trump is seeking nothing less than a total restructuring 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: of a global trade environment which penalizes American companies, American workers, 3 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: and American taxpayers through all manner of unfair trade tariffs 4 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: and non tariff barriers, in this case taxation. As you 5 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: mentioned regulation, and it worked back in the fifties when 6 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: we were trying to help the global economy recover after 7 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 1: a war. But we have this practice of just surrendering 8 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 1: our treasure to the rest of the world for no 9 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: good end anymore. And ultimately, these are national security issues 10 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: because if we don't have a manufacturing and the defense 11 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 1: industrial base and tech companies which have every dollar they 12 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: need for cutting ed AI and research and development, we're 13 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: not going to be the country that we need. 14 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 2: To be end. 15 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 3: I mean, back the manufacturers went. 16 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 4: Into recession late twentye twenty nineteen because of the tariffs. 17 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 4: So I mean, we're in a different world, a globally 18 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 4: connected world where you know, some of these CEOs that 19 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 4: we talked to are very concerned about tariffs. They're worried 20 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 4: about demand destruction, they're worried about price shots, they're worried 21 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 4: about trading relationships. 22 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:21,479 Speaker 1: We heard the same concerns back during the first term 23 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: when President Trump levied historic tariffs on China, levied historic 24 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: tariffs on stealing aluminum, levied historic tariffs on things like 25 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 1: solar and washing machines. And what we got out of 26 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: that was not the sky's falling, recession or inflation. What 27 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: we got was price stability and prosperity. And one of 28 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: the eighth I think the eighth wonder of the world 29 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: is you go to the Pride to Clyde in Ohio 30 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: and you go to the Whirlpool factory. There's a washer machine. 31 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: It comes off every four seconds down there, come. 32 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 5: Back to it's another like four or five minutes. I 33 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 5: beg it diff're worth right there, she said. Was a 34 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 5: recession in eighteen and nineteen nineteen. Of the fourth quarter 35 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 5: of nineteen was world on fire in a good way. 36 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 5: Jim Riggers is going to join us here in a moment. 37 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 5: Ej So President Trump on Tuesday, he just sent it 38 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 5: a true social four percent on Mexico across a twenty 39 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,519 Speaker 5: five percent of Mexico, twenty five percent of Canada, two 40 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 5: of our largest trading partners. And I don't know if 41 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 5: China is a partner or we're in complete submission to them, 42 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 5: since the trade devilicit's so massive, but ten percent on them. 43 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 5: Your thoughts is, Peter Noavar, right, is this a total 44 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 5: geoeconomic reset for the United States? And looking at this 45 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 5: as a premium market because he's not. He's not putting 46 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 5: a twenty five percent tariff on an avocado coming from Mexico. 47 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 5: He's not putting a twenty five percent tariff on a 48 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 5: component part under the hood they get shipped down from 49 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 5: Canada into Detroit to go into a car engine. This 50 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 5: is across the board. So is this bigger? Is this 51 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 5: really national security? Or are his critics right? Is this 52 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 5: going to trigger a massive recession? 53 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 6: Well, Steve, there's certainly no way it triggers a massive recession, 54 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 6: although that is very much the fear in Canada and 55 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 6: in Mexico. We forget that the trade between our countries 56 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 6: is not in any way equal. What I mean is 57 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 6: that if you look at all of America's exports, only 58 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 6: a few percentage points go to a country like Canada 59 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 6: or a country like Mexico, whereas almost all of Canada's exports. 60 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 6: Almost all of Mexico's exports come here to the United States. 61 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 6: And so if they really want to go toe to 62 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 6: tow with Trump on this one. 63 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 7: If the president of Mexico or. 64 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 6: The governor of Canada says, all right, let's do this 65 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 6: trade war thing, then what will happen here in the 66 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 6: United States will basically be like an economic speed bump, 67 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 6: but it will be a probably a full blown recession 68 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 6: for a country again like Canada or like Mexico. And 69 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 6: this is where Trump's approach to tariffs is so much 70 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 6: more like McKinley's than Hoover's. McKinley had an almost scientific approach. 71 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 6: It was a very strategic approach to conducting tariff policy, 72 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 6: whereas with Hoover it was a shotgun style, almost random 73 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 6: approach in the infamous Smooth Hawley terariff fact that infamously 74 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:24,359 Speaker 6: made the Great Depression even worse than it already was 75 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 6: at the start of the nineteen thirties. So what would 76 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 6: the actual effect be. Let's remember that there are a 77 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 6: lot of elasticities to deal with. There are fluctuations in 78 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 6: the relative value of currencies, in other words, exchange rates. 79 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 6: But what I'm getting at here, Steve, is the fact 80 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 6: that if you put a tariff on a certain item, 81 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 6: the actual cost of that tariff is never passed entirely 82 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 6: on to the consumer. The producer always ends up eating 83 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 6: some of the cost of that tariff. We famously saw 84 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 6: this during the first Trump administration that Peter Navarro was 85 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 6: just talking about, wherein about eighty percent of the cost 86 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:00,919 Speaker 6: of the tariffs we were imposed using on the Chinese 87 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 6: were simply eaten by the Chinese manufacturers. They couldn't afford 88 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 6: to pass the full freight onto the American consumer in 89 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 6: the form of higher prices, because the American consumer would 90 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 6: choose alternatives. You know, we didn't have to buy steal 91 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 6: from China, for example, we could buy it from a 92 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 6: domestic producer. We could buy it from another foreign producer, 93 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 6: like the ones in Sweden. And so in order to 94 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 6: remain competitive, it forced these Chinese exporters again to eat 95 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 6: most of the cost of that tariff. And we have 96 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 6: every expectation that that would happen today. And then one 97 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 6: further thing, Steve, if I may, you know, things like 98 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 6: a twenty five percent teriff right on Canada. That's perfectly 99 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 6: reasonable when you think about reciprocity, because they the Canadians 100 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 6: already impose about a twenty five percent tariff or the 101 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 6: equivalent thereof. Once you consider not just tariffs but also 102 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 6: non tariff barriers, think things like quotas that they have 103 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 6: on American dairy American automotive parts, and so that is 104 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 6: essentially an implicit penalty on Americans, whether it's an American farmer, 105 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 6: dairy farmer, or an American factory worker. And so what 106 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 6: the President is trying to do here is level the 107 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 6: playing field for the American worker, for American exporters so 108 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 6: that we can actually compete on the world stage and 109 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 6: make it a level playing field. 110 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 5: Jim Murcerts, I want to bring you in your thoughts 111 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 5: on President Trump's this. It's really a geoeconomic and geostrategic 112 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 5: reset on this, and particularly look at tariffs. He's got 113 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 5: a different economic model. He sees the United States as 114 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 5: a premium market. And if you don't if you can 115 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 5: get around terrorists by shipping your putting your manufacturing here 116 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 5: and hiring American citizens at good wages, or you can 117 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 5: pay a premium like you would buy a you'd get 118 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 5: a skybox for a sporting event or a front row 119 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 5: seat for a concert. 120 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 2: Sir, Yeah, I. 121 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 8: Agree with that, Steve, and I disagree with ej a 122 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 8: little bit on the difference between McKinley and Hoover. Whether 123 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 8: tariffs are a good idea or not depends on whether 124 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 8: your economy is in surplus or deficit. If you're running 125 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 8: a trade surplus, don't put tariffs on it. But if 126 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 8: you're running a trade deficit, absolutely do it and help 127 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 8: create exactly as you described, high paying jobs at home. 128 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 8: Say to the foreign trading partners, if you want to 129 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 8: sell the United States, that's fine, but you got to build. 130 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 7: It here, put your investment here. Right now. 131 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 8: Of course, the US is running a huge trade deficit, 132 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 8: so twer's make a lot of sense. And as far 133 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 8: as the reset is concerned, yes, it's a reset to 134 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 8: something that we had from seventeen ninety to nineteen sixty two, 135 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 8: which was the American system. Alexander Hamilton, Henry Clay, Abraham Lincoln, McKinley, 136 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 8: eisenhowerd they were all on board. So we're going back 137 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 8: to really what we had the most of American history. 138 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 8: But the problem with Hoover is not that taris's automatically bad. 139 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 8: It's that the US was a huge surplus country at 140 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 8: the time. So it depends on the initial conditions but 141 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 8: the initial conditions right now are right for terrors. 142 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 5: Describe this is so important the American system. There's a 143 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 5: document that is I think almost important as a constitution, 144 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 5: the Declaration of Independence by the first by the Secretary 145 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 5: Treasury Alexander Hamilton, who came out and put forward our 146 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 5: first Secretary treasurer put forward a report on manufactures right 147 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 5: has resonated down the ages to people like people like 148 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 5: Henry Clay, people like Abraham Lincoln. 149 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 2: The American system. 150 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 5: Can you just take a second to describe it, because 151 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 5: that's essentially how the country basically ran until globalization, until 152 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 5: the high priest of globalization on Wall Street and in places. 153 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 5: I went to the West point of capitalism, the West 154 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,839 Speaker 5: point of globalism Harvard Business School, which all they preach 155 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 5: was globalization. But describe to people what the American system is? 156 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 8: Sure, well, first of all, it just started with Alexander Hamilton. 157 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 8: Alexander Hamilton and George Washington took are called a field 158 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 8: trip to pa Set, New Jersey, and they looked at 159 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 8: all these waterfalls which are there. It's a natural resource, 160 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 8: and they said, perfect, this is you know at the 161 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 8: time you used water uh to run to run the 162 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 8: mills to run the water wheels and so forth. 163 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 7: That's how you powered industry. 164 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 8: And they said, uh, this this would be perfect for 165 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 8: you know, textiles and so forth. But you had to 166 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 8: put up tariffs, uh, to protect the US industry. We 167 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 8: were kind of you know, in our infancy at the time, 168 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 8: and that was now there was there was an opposition 169 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 8: party that was Jefferson Madison to Monroe, uh, Monroe, Jefferson 170 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 8: to Monroe in particular, they were the they were the agrarians. 171 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 8: They represent the southern interests. Actually this is one of 172 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 8: the not the main one, but this is one of 173 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 8: the things that led up to the Civil War, which 174 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 8: was the South opposed tariffs. They needed imports in the 175 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 8: North favored tarriffs because they wanted to uh uh you know, 176 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 8: encourage industry, and they and they did. But that's that system, 177 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 8: you know. Basically, the the the early Republican Party, which 178 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 8: was Thomas she was pushed aside. 179 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 7: Again. 180 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 8: Henry Clay was the champion. John Quincy Adams was another one. 181 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 8: This is threade round through all the way through American 182 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 8: history with very few exceptions, and the real training point 183 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,719 Speaker 8: was nineteen sixty two. That was the Trade Act of 184 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 8: Trade Reformact of nineteen sixty two, when we lowered our 185 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 8: tariffs unilaterally, and then we went through multiple rounds of 186 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 8: the Kennedy round, the Tokyo round, and so forth. But 187 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 8: the US today acts as the consumer of last resort. 188 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 8: We sit there to the world and say, hey, sell 189 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 8: us all your stuff cheap labor. By the way, Ricardo 190 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 8: himself have hitted, he was wrong about the theory of 191 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 8: pre trade comparative advantage. Comparative advantage works in a classroom, 192 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 8: but in the real world the factor is the production. 193 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 8: The inputs are portable, so you may start out with 194 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 8: some comparative advantage. But if capitol can go where it once, 195 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 8: and it does, and if cheap labor is waiting for 196 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 8: your overseas and it is, then the comparative advantage comes 197 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 8: out of thin air. Look at a Taiwan semiconductor. What 198 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 8: was Taiwan's comparative advantage the semiconductors. 199 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 7: And then he's seventy eight zero. 200 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 8: They had comparative advantage in tuna fishing and a couple 201 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 8: other things. 202 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 7: They created it out of whole cloth. 203 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 8: They basically got the capital, got the educational system that 204 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 8: if you wanted to leave Thailand Semiconductor and go start 205 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,559 Speaker 8: your own company. They were like, that's fine, let's kind 206 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 8: of create that ecosystem. So the point being comparative advantage, 207 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 8: the theory of free trade falls down because the inputs 208 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 8: are portable. Once you realize that, you have to say, okay, 209 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 8: what can we do to prevent having all of our 210 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 8: industry over intellectual property and jobs stripped away? 211 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 7: And the answers tariffs. 212 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 5: And you mentioned I think in the month of December 213 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 5: it was a it was a record trade deficit with China. 214 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 5: Let me play the Kaitlin Collins. I'm going to get 215 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 5: EJ in here before you has to bounce and come 216 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 5: back to you. Jim, Let's play the Kate. Let's play 217 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 5: the Kaitlin Collins quickly and get EJ's response. 218 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 3: In this you just talked about how important the work 219 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 3: that Elon Musk is doing is. If you pass a 220 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 3: continuing resolution, won't that just refund all the programs that 221 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 3: he says he's cutting full of wayte frauden abuse. 222 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 2: No, Look, you can. 223 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 9: That's why I say you add anomalies to a CR. 224 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 9: You can increase in spinning, you can decrease in spinning. 225 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 9: You can add language that says, for example, the dramatic 226 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 9: changes that have been made to USA I D would 227 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 9: be reflected in the ongoing spending. It would be a 228 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 9: clean CR mostly, I think, but with some of those 229 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 9: changes to adapt to the new realities here. And the 230 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 9: new reality is less government, more efficiency, better return for 231 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 9: the taxpayers, and I think that's something that everybody should welcome. 232 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 5: What he said earlier also was about the was about 233 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 5: the Democrats are trying to put restrictions on President Trump 234 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 5: on all of this. 235 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 2: Maybe when play the whole thing for Jim, if we 236 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 2: put it together. 237 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 5: EJ Right, there, clean CR but anomalies, what do you 238 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 5: anticipate What do you anticipate happening here? Because as you know, 239 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 5: this audience doesn't like kind of omnibus crs. But they're 240 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 5: they're talking about anomalies where you're actually going to allow 241 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 5: the dough cuts to go through, Sir. 242 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 6: And Steve, I think that makes a lot of sense. Right, 243 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 6: You should be counting all of these savings when you're 244 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 6: trying to compute, okay, what is the actual cost of 245 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 6: this legislation. They should be counting things like future revenue 246 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 6: from tariffs, for example, and all of these things can 247 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 6: be used as quote unquote pay fors to help cancel 248 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 6: some of this opposed costs, according to the CBO, from 249 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,559 Speaker 6: extending the Trump era tax cuts, the Trump tax reform. 250 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 6: So I think it's a very good thing that they're 251 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 6: going to help incorporate some of these wins in terms 252 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 6: in terms of cutting government, that they're going to incorporate 253 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 6: some of that into the CR and say, okay, this 254 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 6: is the new baseline, right, we are cutting out all 255 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 6: of these instances of abuse, of fraud, of waste, something which, 256 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 6: by the way, both parties used to preach. Let's not 257 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 6: forget it was Bill Clinton of all people who got 258 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 6: up to the microphone and said the era of big 259 00:13:55,679 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 6: government is over and was constantly railing again against abuse, fraud, 260 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 6: and waste within the federal budget. Now, whether or not 261 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 6: he was true to that, that's a whole nother story. 262 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 6: I know, I know Bill Clinton lying. It's a shocker. 263 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 6: But whatever the case, at least the Democrats used to 264 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 6: pay lip service to this. Today, it is shocking how 265 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 6: many of the people in Congress get up to the 266 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:18,959 Speaker 6: microphone and rail against all of these cost savings, all 267 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 6: of these ways in which we are flawing back American 268 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 6: Americans tax dollars. 269 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 5: EJ, what's your social media? You're coming a little hot 270 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 5: on Twitter. I think it's fantastic. You had great information, 271 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 5: great charts, great analysis where they go. 272 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 6: Best place to find me is right there on Twitter 273 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 6: or x you know whatever we call it these days. 274 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 6: The handle is at real EJ and. 275 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 5: Tony EJ love you, brother. 276 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 2: I hope we got either. 277 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 5: EJ is going to go in and we'll lose him 278 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 5: as an analyst and a contributor or will be the 279 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 5: smartest guy out here talking about the details of the 280 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 5: budget and inflation. 281 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 2: Jim murcerts next your whole Stephen k. 282 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 5: Back, okay with everything else out there. And I think 283 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 5: we're getting some clarity now on the cr which I'll 284 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 5: be able to go into it in a little while, 285 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 5: and also the the taxes part in other parts of 286 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 5: this reconciliation bill. And this is quite important because this 287 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 5: is going to lay the foundational element for the Trump 288 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 5: for the Trump presidency. And I remember President Trump's always 289 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 5: about energy and getting a foundation, a strong foundation for 290 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 5: economic growth and opportunity. Jim Urkin is one thing that 291 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 5: stands in the way. And you know, we've had the 292 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 5: Birch Gold guys in here. You know Philip Patrick very well. 293 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 5: I thinks the world ofview. Reach your newsletter Strategic Intelligence, 294 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 5: which you can get by going to Ricords war Room 295 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 5: dot com. You can get a strategic intelligence, but you 296 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 5: also see all the specialty newsletters Jim puts out, and 297 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 5: you get this amazing book about artificial intelligence and capital markets, 298 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 5: which I will tell people will come as a shock 299 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 5: to you but should be read. 300 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 2: Jim does it in for free. Jim. 301 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 5: There's all this situation where the Bank of England is 302 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 5: delaying delivery of physical gold for certain transactions. There's also 303 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 5: all this discussion I think of twenty metric tons or 304 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 5: something that has been shipped from Bank of England and 305 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 5: other money center banks in London to New York as 306 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 5: guys are arbitraging. I guess the difference in price in 307 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 5: physical gold. And then President Trump and now he's been 308 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 5: pretty adamant about it that he wants to go to 309 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 5: Fort Knox and actually wants to see and do a 310 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 5: physical inspection and hear from auditors about gold. And now 311 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 5: you say he's going to take elon Musk. Now Scott Bessant, 312 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 5: who the show knows very well former major contributor. He says, Hey, look, 313 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 5: they do an audit every year President Trump. We want 314 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 5: President Trump to go, and they're arranging the visit. How 315 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 5: seriously should this audience take because we know central banks 316 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 5: are still buying at record rates? 317 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 2: What is wrong? 318 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 5: What is up with like physical gold between the Bank 319 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 5: of England, New York, Fort Knox, all of it, sir. 320 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 7: That's a great question. 321 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 8: See, but what we've seen all of this before, from 322 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 8: the panic of Black Friday eighteen sixty nine and what 323 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 8: they used to call gold points in the early twentieth century. 324 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 8: But yeah, first of all, I applaud the President and 325 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 8: Elon Musk if they're going to Fort Knox, I think 326 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 8: that's great. 327 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 7: I think it'll be I call the mother of both 328 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 7: photo ops. 329 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:31,679 Speaker 8: But if you've ever lifted a four hundred hous par 330 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 8: they weigh twenty seven pounds. 331 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 7: I've done it. I've been involved. 332 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 8: But it's like a freeway, it's kind of it's a 333 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 8: lot heavier than you think. But they'll go in, they'll 334 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 8: look around. By the way, the gold is certainly there. 335 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 8: I've said that for over ten years, probably twenty years. 336 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 7: But I said in my book, The New Case for Gold. 337 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 7: The gold is there. Just think about it. 338 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 8: Would the Treasury let the President go to Fort Knox 339 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 8: if the gold wasn't there, of course they wouldn't. 340 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 7: So they're going to go there. The gold is there. 341 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 7: I think it'll be great for the American people. 342 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 2: Hang on, but hang on, but hang on, Oh, but 343 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 2: hang on, hang on. 344 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 5: I know when I was a small kid, my dad 345 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 5: would tell me when he was a child back in 346 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 5: the in the twenties and thirties, that they would look 347 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 5: at a map and the map would have pink or 348 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 5: where the British Empire was, and he said that little country, 349 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 5: that little island looked like can control of the world 350 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 5: because it looked like half of the map was pink. 351 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 5: He also said, the standard back in those days was 352 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 5: the Bank of England. 353 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:25,400 Speaker 2: So I hear you that the gold is there. 354 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 5: But how do we have a situation where something is 355 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 5: supposed to be so solid as the Bank of England. 356 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 5: You've now had and it's been verified by the Bank 357 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 5: of England, some problems with actually completing trades. They need 358 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 5: delay because they can't get the physical, the physical delivery 359 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 5: of gold. 360 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 7: Sir, well, here's the thing. 361 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 8: Blackmasters who ran global commodities for JP Morgan for a 362 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 8: very long period of time. 363 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 7: She knows more about this than anyone. 364 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 8: She's left the bank and onto other things. She had 365 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 8: a quote, just a couple of words, and I found 366 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 8: it on the internet. I verified it, but then disappeared, 367 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 8: it got scrugged. But she said gold never settles. And 368 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 8: what that means is that the amount of paper gold transactions, 369 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 8: gold futures go forwards, annallocated gold is leasing gold, etc. 370 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 8: The amount of paper transactions is easily one hundred times 371 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 8: probably more, no one knows the exact number, but easily 372 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 8: one hundred times the amount of physical gold. 373 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 7: Now, what she meant was as long as. 374 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 8: All the lungs and the shorts and the lessies and 375 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 8: the lesser wors and the paper gold holders and everything 376 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,199 Speaker 8: kind of roll over their contracts, some get in, some 377 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 8: get it's all good. But if you actually had a 378 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 8: situation where the holders of those who were long the 379 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 8: paper gold, so you know, I think I'll take physical delivery. 380 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:43,360 Speaker 8: Call the the CMEME, or call you know, the comics, 381 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 8: or or call the Treasury for that matter, call anybody 382 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 8: saying and deliver the goal. 383 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 7: Please. 384 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 8: You couldn't do it, It would be physically impossible. So 385 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 8: what would happen. Then you'd have the greatest short squeeze 386 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 8: in history. You'd have a mess gramble for physical gold. 387 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,199 Speaker 8: The price would double, probably every night, and then kind 388 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 8: of keep going from there. You'd have bankruptcies as various 389 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 8: dealers and counterparties failed. 390 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 7: Now that hasn't happened yet on that scale. 391 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 8: And again eighteen sixty nine was the last time something 392 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 8: like it happened, but the market couldn't stand up to it. 393 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 8: Now we're starting to see signs of that. We're starting 394 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 8: to see cracks in the structure. And the question I 395 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 8: have for the President Elon Musk go to Fort Knox, Okay, 396 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 8: the goals there, that's fine. Ask the Treasury, and they 397 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 8: probably don't want to ask. This is that gold? Least 398 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 8: is that gold? Least to JP Morgan Goldman, Sachs City. 399 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 5: And hold it, hold it full stop, full stop, full stop. 400 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 5: If it's in Fort Knox, it's supposed to be the 401 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 5: gold of the United States of America, and the United 402 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 5: States Treasury is it. And that's why US troops it's 403 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 5: in actually an army base, and of course the bases 404 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 5: will suffer from the gold depository. But I would assume, 405 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,959 Speaker 5: and I think people watching this show would assume, that 406 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 5: is the goal of the United States of America. 407 00:20:58,359 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 2: Is it not, sir? What do you mean? Least? 408 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 7: Well, it is. 409 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 8: But if I lease my house to you, you can 410 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 8: move in. You're perfectly legal. But I still own the house. 411 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 8: Now people don't understand goal leasing. They hear the gold 412 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 8: is lease, they assume that like JP Morton backs up 413 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 8: a truck and takes the goal. No, that's not what 414 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 8: that's not what happened. The gold is there, the Treasury 415 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 8: owns it. You want to be clear about that. The 416 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 8: gold is there and the Treasury owns it, but they 417 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:20,360 Speaker 8: can lease it out. 418 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 7: That's a paper transaction. And here's the key. 419 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 8: When you're the less see you're again JP Morton Gold 420 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 8: and Sacks any of the big banks, you. 421 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 7: Have a right of re hypothlication. 422 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 8: That means you can lease it to somebody else, or 423 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 8: you can sell it to somebody else on what's called 424 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 8: an unallocated basis, which I say, yeah, see, you own 425 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 8: the goal, but not really. There are no bars with 426 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 8: serial numbers with your name on it. But it's a 427 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 8: paper goal transaction. But that's my point. It's a long 428 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 8: chain of paper transactions. Everybody thinks every less see, every 429 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 8: buyer of an allocated goal thinks they own gold, and 430 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 8: they do have price exposure, but they don't have the gold. 431 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 7: The golds in the vault where it belongs. 432 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 8: But you can actually make money leasing you know, how 433 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 8: could you blame the treasury for you know, picking up 434 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 8: a percentage point or two on the goal by leasing that. 435 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 8: But the bigger point, the one you refer to, is 436 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 8: that the chain of paper gold is one hundred times 437 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 8: the physical gold. You couldn't possibly settle all those transactions. Now, 438 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 8: I don't, by the way, I understand goal at leasting 439 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 8: I just described it. I don't know for a fact 440 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 8: that the treasure gold is least I suspect it is. 441 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 8: I don't know that. To me, it's a question, but 442 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 8: it's a question that the treasure may not want to 443 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 8: answer it because the many you realize that that's how 444 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 8: much that's supporting. 445 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 5: Isn't what you just described with hypothecation, where essentially you're 446 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,199 Speaker 5: breaking off from the physical reality of the ownership, the 447 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 5: ship of it ways to monetize certain paper transactions, right 448 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 5: you hypothecated isn't what you just describe in that chain 449 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 5: of custody, chain of events, who ever own's leasing all 450 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 5: of that, much like fractional banking, which people say, heck 451 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 5: can this happen, is wrought with potential risk that if 452 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 5: the music ever stops right, the people in the hypothecation chain, 453 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 5: just like in the fractional banking situation, like at Silicon 454 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 5: Valley Bank, that they end up they end up holding it, 455 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 5: particularly like depositors or people. There's some person that gets 456 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 5: stuck if the music stopped, sir, sure. 457 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 8: I mean a Silicon Valley Bank had about three percent 458 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 8: of their deposits for FTIC ensured. The rest of them 459 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 8: were completely unassured. So you're basically, as a depositor, you're 460 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 8: an unassured creditor of a. 461 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 7: In solvent institution. 462 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 8: So that's exactly right, except fractional banking, and they at 463 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 8: least require maybe five up to ten percent capital in 464 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 8: different flavors, and the rest of the levers we're talking 465 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 8: about a market with maybe one percent probably less. In 466 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 8: other words, leverage ninety nine to one. And that is 467 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 8: the issue now even in the just take the futures exchanges, 468 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 8: the Comax School futures contract they have a vault and 469 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 8: there's physical gold in it. And if I'm along a 470 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 8: futures contract, I'm allowed to put in notices. I'd like 471 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,239 Speaker 8: to take physical delivery. But enough of a geek. I've 472 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 8: read the rule books of all these exchanges. They all 473 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 8: have a rule in the rule book that says we 474 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,679 Speaker 8: can change the rules, and they tell you we are 475 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 8: not a source of supply. So they just let you 476 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 8: take physical deliveries just a little bit to keep everything honest. 477 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 7: But if there were ever a massive wave of notices 478 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 7: he I'd like to. 479 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 8: Take physical delivery, they would say trade for liquidation. All 480 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 8: that you're not getting that gold. You're not getting that 481 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 8: physical gold. There is not enough. That's just a futures market. 482 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 8: Then again, there's unallocated gold bank gold gold leasing this 483 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 8: huge market. And this is what life masters mat which 484 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 8: you said gold never settles. 485 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 2: Why do we have we got a couple of minutes left. 486 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 5: Why do we have a barbaric relic of our savage 487 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 5: past in a day of artificial intelligence. You just wrote 488 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 5: a book about artificial intelligence and markets. 489 00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,679 Speaker 2: That everybody should read. In fact, you could go to 490 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,199 Speaker 2: rickordswarroom dot com. You get it. 491 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 5: He throws it in as a free a free item 492 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 5: if he takes strategic intelligence. But you've got artificial intelligence. 493 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 5: That's changing really the nature of capital markets because the 494 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 5: efficiency and effectiveness of artificial intelligence. And you lay out 495 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 5: a very couple of scary scenarios. But why is gold 496 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 5: this relic of five thousand years? Why is gold still 497 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 5: important and still relevant? 498 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 8: Well, I think my experience as a kid maybe similar 499 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 8: to yours, because at the kitchen table, my father used 500 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 8: to pull the two twenty dollars bills out as well, 501 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 8: and he slammed them on the table and said, look 502 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 8: at this. And one of them said, Federal Reserve note, 503 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 8: which is a liability. That's what we call money, is 504 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 8: actually a liability of the Federal Reserve. 505 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:43,959 Speaker 7: It's not an asset. 506 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 8: But the other one said, silver certificate. Used to carry 507 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 8: it around and he would say, this isn't back. But 508 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 8: I think my father was in the first print. He 509 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 8: was actually in the occupation of Chinese foot World War two. 510 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 8: But he was in the occupation of China and they 511 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 8: had a hyperinflation there that was worse than Winmark. 512 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,360 Speaker 7: Again, says Marine Buddies. They would take a. 513 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 8: Wheelbarrow full of national Chinese money to get a case 514 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 8: of beer. So I had this from like a very 515 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 8: early age, the difference between solid money and paper money 516 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 8: and leverage. Again, the level system works as long as 517 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 8: no one challenges it, as long as no one questions it. 518 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,679 Speaker 8: But the minue you do, it collapses very quickly. And 519 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:20,919 Speaker 8: that's where gold stands up. 520 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 7: And I mean gold with skyrocket and these scenarios. 521 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 8: The problem is even you referred to it with the 522 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 8: Bank of England, and I mean it used to be 523 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 8: when they ran the gold corner, when the corner of 524 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 8: the gold market. This is a Jay Gould and Big 525 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 8: Jump Fisk in eighteen sixty nine, when the corner of 526 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 8: the gold market. 527 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 2: I want, I want to, I want to, I want 528 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 2: I want you to. I want you to tell that story. 529 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 5: Can short commercial break Jim rickards, President Trump and Elon 530 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 5: going to go up to Fort Knox. 531 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 2: And check things out. Let's say that, check things out, 532 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 2: make sure. 533 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 5: Everything's on the up and up with our gold short 534 00:26:54,160 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 5: break records on the other side, use your who Stephen 535 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 5: k Back, you know, one of the powers of the 536 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 5: records book. It talks about artificial intelligence and capital markets. 537 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 5: Sweiker and David I think It's David Sweiker Arizona just 538 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 5: put in a new bill talking about artificial intelligence and prescriptions. 539 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 2: I'm gonna get this, but Ais, this is why we 540 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 2: have Joe. 541 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 5: Allen artificial intelligence and with Elon I mean, their theory 542 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 5: of the case over Doge, I think is to replace 543 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 5: Part of it is to replace fifty percent of the 544 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 5: federal workers with artificial intelligence. 545 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 2: Right. This is going to cut through, but this is 546 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 2: going to be every This is going to be every. 547 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 5: Industry, particularly folks under thirty years old. Those first jobs 548 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 5: you get in your twenties. A lot of those lower 549 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 5: level entry level jobs in management, administration, and technology. I'm 550 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 5: not talking about blue collar jobs and factories driving you know, 551 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 5: teamsters jobs driving trucks, are driving ubers or taxis, are 552 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 5: factories automation or the automation around our ports. A the 553 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 5: the first the syth through grass of artificial intelligence will 554 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 5: initially come in. It's big in the efficiency moves through administrative, managerial, 555 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 5: and stem or technology jobs at entry levels and there 556 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,679 Speaker 5: and above, and then we'll start eating all the way up. 557 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:33,199 Speaker 9: Uh. 558 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 5: But Jim people, the gold One of the things about 559 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 5: gold people have tried to corner the gold market before right. 560 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 5: I mean the Hunt brothers tried to cut and I 561 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 5: think they did for a minute control the silver market 562 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 5: back in the eighties. In fact, one of the Hunts 563 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 5: is the Uh is the grandfather of the of the 564 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 5: son that owns the owns the Kansas City Chiefs, who 565 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 5: used to work for me at Goldman Sachs in l 566 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 5: A for a while. 567 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 2: Uh in his training, he's like. 568 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 5: Boil boil and journalism, Hunt in finance. But people have 569 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 5: tried to corner the gold market. How hard is that, sir? 570 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 5: And give me the best example. You've got to somebody 571 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 5: that tried to do it. 572 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 7: It's very hard. 573 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 8: But the best example was September eighteen sixty nine. This 574 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 8: is two of the so called robber barns, Jay Gold 575 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 8: and Big Jim Fisk, and they decided to corner the market. 576 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 7: Now there was a lot of gold. They were in 577 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 7: New York. 578 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 8: They did basically corner the physical gold supply in New York. 579 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 7: But there were two sources of goal that they had 580 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 7: to worry about. 581 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 8: One was London, but they weren't really worried about that 582 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 8: because you had to ship it to the physically ship 583 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 8: it to the Nited States. That would take weeks or longer, 584 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 8: and they knew that that would not come in time 585 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 8: to break the corner. The other source of goal was 586 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 8: the Nasais Treasury. The US Treasury had gold and they 587 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 8: had a station in New York. So what they did 588 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 8: They had a middleman who was President Grant's son in law, 589 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 8: and he loved his daughter, so they got an audience 590 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 8: for President Grant. They convinced the President that high commodity 591 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 8: prices were good farmers. So Grant kind of naively said, yeah, 592 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 8: you're right. He worded the Treasury to stop selling gold. 593 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 8: That was the green light, because once they knew the 594 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 8: Treasury goal was off limits, the London gold couldn't get 595 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 8: here in time. They had cornered the gold market in 596 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 8: New York. So they launched the squeeze, which basically means 597 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 8: you sold gold on paper, you don't have it, so 598 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 8: you're sure you go to buy it, but there isn't 599 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 8: any because they've cornered the market. So this went on 600 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 8: for a couple of days and the price of gold skyrocketed. Finally, 601 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 8: Sam Brown, Brown Brothers Harreman, the original Brown Brothers Harraman 602 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 8: called the Treasure, said you got to do something. 603 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 7: This is out of control. People are going broken. 604 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 8: They called the president and then he said, told the 605 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,239 Speaker 8: Treasury secretary sell the gold. That broke the corner. But 606 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 8: the point is you really do have to control it 607 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 8: all physically. The problem with the Hunt brothers they pretty 608 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 8: much cornered the silver market, but they were relying on 609 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 8: the futures exchange, and the futures exchanged at the time, 610 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 8: as I said, changed the rules and said no physical 611 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 8: delivery in the market. You can only trade for liquidation only. 612 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 8: So it's hard to do. But here's the point. You 613 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 8: don't need a good old fashioned corner. You can just 614 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 8: have a situation where who's buying goal with Russia, China, Iran, Turkey, 615 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 8: even our friends like Japan, Philippines back to it. They're 616 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 8: buying all the gold. There's not that much around. It 617 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 8: wouldn't take much to be cause of buying pack. 618 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 2: Well. 619 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 5: This is one of the reasons, the conversion factors of 620 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 5: why gold is hidden all time highs every five days. 621 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 5: I might want to also mention Jay Gould. How did 622 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 5: Jay Gould come up with the idea he and Big. 623 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 2: Jim Fisk to corner the gold market? 624 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 5: You know it was is financing is actually working as 625 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 5: a financier for the massive budget deficits that were run 626 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 5: by President Lincoln and Sam and Chase and others his 627 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 5: Secretary of the Treasury to finance. 628 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 2: The Civil War. 629 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 5: That's where Gould got into the center of a bunch 630 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 5: of scandals with Jay Gould and others of these New 631 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 5: York City financiers came down there and saw that, you know, 632 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 5: we were thrown all in to win militarily, had a 633 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 5: massive defense budget which we had never had before. Or 634 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 5: and the corruption that came in there, and particularly guys 635 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 5: that he conceived of these ideas by seeing how Rickety 636 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 5: the system was down to Washington, d C. As President 637 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 5: Lincoln and Chase and Uh and Uh and others on 638 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 5: that war cabinet ramped up to defeat the Confederacy in 639 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 5: the In the epics Civil War, the financings of there's 640 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 5: an argument that one of the reasons the South lost 641 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 5: is that they just they didn't finance it correctly. 642 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 2: They couldn't actually raise the money. 643 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 5: So Jay Gould one of the worst characters or best characters, 644 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 5: depending on where you come down for your libertarian you 645 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 5: love him if you're a patriot. He's a guy that's 646 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 5: a little sketchy, Rickords. How do people get to your 647 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 5: newsletter Strategic Intelligence? You're you're you're brilliant. You've got tons 648 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 5: of experience. Audience loves when you come on. Where do 649 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 5: people go to get the newsletter? 650 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:48,719 Speaker 7: Thanks you. 651 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 8: We have a landing page called Records war Room dot com. 652 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 7: It's Ricords war room dot com. You go there. 653 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 8: You can subscribe to our new newsletter, Strategic Intelligence. But 654 00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 8: we have a free copy of my new book Money. 655 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 8: GP basically looks at artificial intelligence, which is not intelligent 656 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 8: at all. It's all math. It's just math and nodes. 657 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 8: But I explained all that in plain English. But it's 658 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 8: the interaction of artificial intelligence, which is math and human nature, 659 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 8: which hasn't changed in five thousand years. 660 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 7: That's extremely dangerous. Now not bashing AI. It is powerful, it. 661 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 8: Is efficient, but there are hidden dangers, and I talk 662 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 8: about those dangers as they relate to the stock market, 663 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 8: banking and actually nuclear war fighting. 664 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, like I said, this was one, don't read before 665 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 5: bedtime because bedtime will be delayed. It'll keep you up. Records, 666 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 5: We love you, brother. Everybody go to Records Warroom dot com. 667 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 5: The landing page. You get the free book. Plus you 668 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 5: get access to strategic intelligence. 669 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 2: Thank you, sir. 670 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 7: Thanks. 671 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 5: Okay, folks, we're not manning the ramparts today, but you're 672 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 5: thinking through. We're going to think through together and with 673 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 5: the President of United States, what this is. 674 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 2: I want to go back. 675 00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 5: I want to play the I want to play the 676 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 5: Caitlin Colin in its entirety, because you're going to see 677 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 5: what one of the hang ups are the Democrats are. 678 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 5: They're number one objective, which always before was to keep 679 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 5: the government funded and keep the government going, because I 680 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 5: remember they're the party of big government. 681 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 2: They've had kind of. 682 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 5: A shift because there's a guy in the White House 683 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 5: called Donald J. Trump and he's supported by a folks 684 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 5: in this country that wear the MAGA T shirt. 685 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 2: So they're not so hot on this. Let's play it. 686 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 5: We're going to set the strategic context of the firestorm 687 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 5: that's going to be before us in the days and 688 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 5: weeks ahead. 689 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 3: Let's go into it, balances out, and we will none 690 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,840 Speaker 3: of that's guarantee you. We'll see what those numbers look like. 691 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 3: Did Elon must approve of the blueprint that you passed 692 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 3: last night? Did he think there were enough spending cuts 693 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:44,280 Speaker 3: in there. 694 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,320 Speaker 9: Well, we haven't gotten to that yet. These are numbers 695 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 9: a floor at least one point five trillion in savings 696 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 9: that we're going to find and trying to get higher, 697 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,280 Speaker 9: maybe two trillion or higher. 698 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 7: It's a start. 699 00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,919 Speaker 9: Look, you don't turn an aircraft carrier on a dime. 700 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 9: It takes miles of open ocean to turn an aircraft carrier. 701 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 9: That's what the US economy is. It took decades to 702 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 9: get into this situation, but we are going to begin 703 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 9: to bend that curve. 704 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 2: It's a great thing for the country. 705 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,359 Speaker 3: I was just curious since you met with him after 706 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,439 Speaker 3: this happened. Speaking of deadlines that are a lot sooner 707 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 3: than what you're talking about. There's a shutdown deadline that 708 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 3: is looming on March fourteenth, which you well know. Do 709 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 3: you think Congress is going to end up passing another 710 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 3: continuing resolution? 711 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 7: Then well, I. 712 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 9: Wish we didn't have to, But it looks like the 713 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 9: Democrats are trying to push us into that. They've added 714 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:31,399 Speaker 9: these really crazy conditions onto the negotiation over the last 715 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 9: week or so. They've added a condition that says we 716 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,359 Speaker 9: have to tie the hands of President Trump, that the 717 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,360 Speaker 9: legislative branch would they want us to dictate to the 718 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 9: executive branch, for example, a base number of employees for 719 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 9: each agency in the executive branch. I don't even think 720 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:49,479 Speaker 9: it's constitutional what they're requiring, but it's certainly an absurd notion. 721 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,280 Speaker 3: But they're only that by that, So crgo, do you believe. 722 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 2: Well, we haven't. 723 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,359 Speaker 9: Negotiated that yet, but if it's a CR, it may 724 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 9: be an entire year long CR with some anomalies on it. 725 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:00,879 Speaker 7: You know how this works, but it's not. 726 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 2: What we prefer. 727 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 9: We would like to do individual appropriations bills, but it 728 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 9: takes both parties to negotiate that, and right now the 729 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 9: Democrats are trying to It looks like trying to set 730 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 9: up a government shut down. We can't allow that to happen, 731 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:12,800 Speaker 9: and we want. 732 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 3: Well, you just talked about how important the work that 733 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,840 Speaker 3: Elon Musk is doing is. If you pass a continuing resolution, 734 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,279 Speaker 3: won't that just refund all the programs that he says 735 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,840 Speaker 3: he's cutting that are full of waste, broaden abuse. 736 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:23,800 Speaker 7: No. 737 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 9: Look, that's why I say you add anomalies to a CR. 738 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 9: You can increase in spinning, you can decrease some spinding. 739 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 7: You can add language. 740 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 9: That says, for example, the dramatic changes that have been 741 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 9: made to USAID would be reflected in the ongoing spending. 742 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,799 Speaker 9: It would be a clean CR mostly, I think, but 743 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 9: with some of those changes to adapt to the new 744 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,799 Speaker 9: realities here, and the new reality is less government, more efficiency, 745 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,879 Speaker 9: better return for the taxpayers. And I think that's something 746 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:51,840 Speaker 9: everybody should welcome. 747 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 5: Okay, let's interpret because his first time has been said 748 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 5: I think publicly, and Kaitlin Collins, I think did a 749 00:36:58,680 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 5: good job there and trying to draw it out of 750 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 5: them only months after the war room. 751 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 2: But that's fine. The Democrats. We go back to the. 752 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 5: Unitary executive theory where the executive was chief executive, commander, 753 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 5: chief and chief magistrate. Has these powers enumerated by the 754 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:26,400 Speaker 5: constitution or laid out by the constitution. Right there, Johnson 755 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 5: told you that in the negotiations on a CR, whether 756 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 5: it's a thirty day CR or to the end of 757 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 5: the year or I would actually think in appropriations if 758 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 5: we did it with the single subject, which is what 759 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 5: we want, which they haven't done. And Johnson can't put 760 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 5: all of that on the Democrats. He's only done seven 761 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:47,760 Speaker 5: of the twelve. But that's we've kind of blown past that, folks. 762 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 5: What he's saying is the Democrats are going to sit 763 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,879 Speaker 5: there and say, no, we're not buying off on Trump 764 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,880 Speaker 5: having these powers. I'm not going to buy off on 765 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,280 Speaker 5: his new buddy Elon Musk having these powers. 766 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 2: We're not going to do it. 767 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 5: We're gon we're gonna basically set a base case of employees. 768 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:04,360 Speaker 2: And I think. 769 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:08,880 Speaker 5: Programmatically, bottom line, there's not going to be a CR 770 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 5: unless you get one hundred percent of Republican votes. As 771 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:16,400 Speaker 5: we know and this audience knows, there's at least forty 772 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 5: to seventy votes in the House, and the Republican side 773 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,959 Speaker 5: are saying, we can't do this again. 774 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,239 Speaker 2: This is a tantamount to another omnibus, and we're not 775 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:24,839 Speaker 2: going to do this. 776 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 5: What he's saying about anomalies is it won't be a 777 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 5: clean CR. It won't be a one liner. The anomalies 778 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 5: will be because remember I said, hey, you're going to 779 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,799 Speaker 5: have to eat it's Biden's budget. It's two trillion dollar 780 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 5: deficit and none of the Doge cuts. And what she 781 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 5: just said not that not only the Doge cuts not 782 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 5: in there. You're financing the negative, you're financing usaid, So 783 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 5: he says there's going to be anomalies that's going to 784 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 5: be in the actual CR itself. In addition, and this 785 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,760 Speaker 5: is why we had Teitzel kind of last man standing. 786 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 5: There's only a couple of guys over Sierra. They're they're 787 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,439 Speaker 5: staffing up again because so many of their people are 788 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 5: in the administration. Jeff Clark yesterday going to go in 789 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,800 Speaker 5: as the the anti regulation chief. God bless that. That's amazing. 790 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,320 Speaker 5: Pay a letter over at Omb as the chief counsel. 791 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 5: Dan Bishop's about to get I think about to get 792 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 5: to confirmed, the great Dan Bishop of the Congressman and 793 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:23,320 Speaker 5: Russ vote with Scott Besson, and you know Jason Trendt 794 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,320 Speaker 5: the Treasury, Alexander Prix, you get Treasury, you get omb 795 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,399 Speaker 5: And what they have said is that hey, war room, 796 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 5: posse maga movement, even on the CR, the impowerments will 797 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 5: start shortly thereafter the impowerments will start. So we're heading 798 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:44,719 Speaker 5: And this is why I had Josh Hammer kind of 799 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:50,920 Speaker 5: start the show. Folks, get ready, not today, not tomorrow. 800 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 5: We got we gotta get more details. You need more information. 801 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 5: You need to be fully loaded on this one because 802 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 5: this sets, as I said, this sets a series of events. 803 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 5: This critical path will set a series of events that 804 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 5: will go all through the reconciliation, all through the taxes, 805 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 5: all through everything. President Trump's trying to do is remember 806 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,279 Speaker 5: that middle corridor, that middle vertical is the financial and 807 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:20,360 Speaker 5: economic crisis that's so important, that's existential to the country 808 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,479 Speaker 5: into his presidency, his second term. You have the two 809 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,279 Speaker 5: things inside. Stopping the kinetic part of the Third World War. 810 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 5: Oh did I mention that the British Prime Minister is 811 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 5: about to show up about stopping the war in Ukraine 812 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,880 Speaker 5: and President Trump way down the road and stop in 813 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 5: the war in the Middle East. And in addition, the 814 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:44,719 Speaker 5: deportation securing the border. The border has been kind of 815 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 5: secured deportations in the top couple of batters in the 816 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:50,280 Speaker 5: first inning. 817 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 2: But that middle vertical game on. 818 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 5: In the nation's capital with President Trump and the MAGA 819 00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:58,400 Speaker 5: team short. 820 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 2: Use your hosts, Stephen k Back. 821 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:07,240 Speaker 5: Okay, what I just laid out is kind of everything, 822 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:08,960 Speaker 5: and we're going to frame it more and make sure 823 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,680 Speaker 5: you're fully up to speed and fully understanding this because 824 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 5: this between now and the fourteenth is going to be 825 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:18,360 Speaker 5: big league and it's going to set the It's going 826 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 5: to lay the predicate. And you just heard in Grace 827 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:23,880 Speaker 5: I'll get it cut, Grace will get it cut. I'm 828 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:25,600 Speaker 5: gonna play it again on the six o'clock show what 829 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 5: e j Antny said at the end of the first 830 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,759 Speaker 5: hour that three or four minutes is reality. I don't 831 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 5: believe the White House is doing enough, and we'll do it, 832 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,319 Speaker 5: but to get out what the actual position of the 833 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 5: American economy is. He saw from these numbers today. The 834 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:45,360 Speaker 5: inflation number for the fourth quarter was four point two percent, 835 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,600 Speaker 5: not two point two percents. Biden regime, said, the Biden regime, 836 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 5: every number they gave you had to be reset, particularly 837 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 5: in labor. We've gone through that. But this thing is 838 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,480 Speaker 5: not good right now. And President Trump was handed a 839 00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:00,360 Speaker 5: disaster and it's going to take some real leaders ship, 840 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:04,920 Speaker 5: some real discernment, and just flat old toughness. 841 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:07,160 Speaker 2: This is going to be painful. 842 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,720 Speaker 5: Just is it just is You don't you don't spend 843 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,920 Speaker 5: this much money, You don't get this messed up. It's 844 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 5: one hundred and seventy five billion dollars they want for 845 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:17,880 Speaker 5: the deportation program. 846 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,440 Speaker 2: Like what happened to the infrastructure? Where to go? 847 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,680 Speaker 5: One hundred and seventy five billion dollars. Do you understand 848 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 5: the scale of that, the breathtaking scale of that. It's 849 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:32,320 Speaker 5: cross boards everything. This is also China. On Tuesday, President 850 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:36,400 Speaker 5: Trump just said it China ten percent tariff. Hey, Jase Medical, 851 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,960 Speaker 5: this is the reason they're a sponsor of ours, because 852 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,440 Speaker 5: they know we understand this. Rosemary Gibson and the whole 853 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,359 Speaker 5: thing about the supply chain. You've been warned. So go 854 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,080 Speaker 5: to the site and just check it out. The Chinese 855 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,719 Speaker 5: Communist Party are just not going to sit there and 856 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,560 Speaker 5: take that. It has to be done. What President Trump's 857 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:57,040 Speaker 5: doing is smart, it's timely. We've got this, We've got 858 00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,560 Speaker 5: this trade deficit was one hundred I think the trade 859 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,920 Speaker 5: deficit was one hundred billion dollars in December. And they're 860 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 5: blaming it all getting ahead of the terrace. That's not 861 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:07,919 Speaker 5: the case. Totally different. Chase Medical dot com slash band 862 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,040 Speaker 5: and go check it out today. Go to the site 863 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,400 Speaker 5: and get doctor Sean. Those guys are all open to 864 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,680 Speaker 5: talk to you. Also, my patriots, supply, I think now's 865 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:20,320 Speaker 5: the time to think through Hey. You know, and it 866 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,040 Speaker 5: used to be the preppers that consider it kind of 867 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 5: kookie or wing nuts. 868 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:24,919 Speaker 2: Not anymore. You've got to get ahead of the game. 869 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 5: Here mypatriots supply dot Com, the best company in the 870 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 5: preparation business. They got consultants on the phone that walk 871 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,240 Speaker 5: you through all of it. That's one of the reasons 872 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 5: we love partnering with these companies that give you access 873 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,200 Speaker 5: to information. We understand the war and Posse wants to 874 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:43,239 Speaker 5: see the receipts, and your power comes from using your 875 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,200 Speaker 5: agency when you get those receipts. 876 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:47,799 Speaker 2: That's what's going to have to. 877 00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 5: Happen over these next days and weeks ahead. We're about 878 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 5: to pivot into some tough stuff, folks. It's going to 879 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,799 Speaker 5: get it's going to get in early. It just is 880 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 5: they're not the votes there now. I mean as it 881 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:02,760 Speaker 5: sits today. Just given where we are, you know, President 882 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,240 Speaker 5: Trump's government will basically shut down at right after midnight 883 00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,720 Speaker 5: on the fourteenth unless we get through a very tough 884 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 5: political process in the cr and President Trump, I thinks 885 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:14,080 Speaker 5: is going to make the case. 886 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:15,520 Speaker 2: I think you'll hear some of this today. 887 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,920 Speaker 5: At the same time he's trying to bring peace to 888 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 5: the Eurasian land mass. 889 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:22,839 Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk's going to follow us. 890 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:27,600 Speaker 5: You're going to have sircure, Sir Starmer show up the 891 00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:29,280 Speaker 5: Prime Ministery of the United Kingdom. 892 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:30,880 Speaker 2: He's a labor guy. Left us. 893 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:33,759 Speaker 5: There'll be a lot of activity this afternoon. There'll be 894 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,400 Speaker 5: the press conference. Natalie will be here at five. I 895 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 5: may dip in and out of that, but I'll definitely 896 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:43,360 Speaker 5: be here at six to make sure we go through, 897 00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,120 Speaker 5: you know, what is important from today and a couple 898 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:47,759 Speaker 5: of things I think have been missed in all this. 899 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:52,759 Speaker 5: Number one that I'm getting Colonel Fanel, Captain Fanel to 900 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,120 Speaker 5: join me from overseas to go through what's happening these 901 00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,520 Speaker 5: intelligence agencies, these people in these chat rooms. And his point, 902 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:02,360 Speaker 5: because he's he's spent his career in naval intelligence, how 903 00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,360 Speaker 5: he gets beyond just intelligence? How legal is this? 904 00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:06,800 Speaker 2: Anyway? 905 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,479 Speaker 5: Tons of going on. Roger Kimball, one of the smartest guy's, 906 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,680 Speaker 5: gonna also join me. We're i go through this day, 907 00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:16,560 Speaker 5: another historic day, Tamora Zelensky, President Trump doing it all 908 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:18,840 Speaker 5: and where. And I got to tell you, I'm so 909 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:20,520 Speaker 5: impressed with the Jay and TONI. You know, he's one 910 00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:21,560 Speaker 5: of the guys that are trying to get in and 911 00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,000 Speaker 5: I'm saying, hey, we got to have some guys on 912 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:26,799 Speaker 5: the outside. He'll explain this stuff that four minutes and 913 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,160 Speaker 5: I'll cut it and make Grace from Shorebury gets it, 914 00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,160 Speaker 5: and I'm gonna play it again on the sixth. Was 915 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,680 Speaker 5: the single best summary in three or four minutes of 916 00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,080 Speaker 5: exactly where the economy stands and the mess of President 917 00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:40,799 Speaker 5: Trump was handed Mike Lindell, and folks, you should know 918 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,080 Speaker 5: something about Lindell. I've gotten to be a personal friend 919 00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,680 Speaker 5: and a colleague and a comrade over the last couple 920 00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:49,640 Speaker 5: of years. But there's so much. This guy gets attacked 921 00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,600 Speaker 5: more than anybody but Trump. And I say that as 922 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,960 Speaker 5: a guy that went to federal prison there after, Lindell 923 00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,359 Speaker 5: much more. And they're after me non stop there after 924 00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:04,719 Speaker 5: Lindell constantly, constantly, constantly. They feel that his connection, He's 925 00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:06,640 Speaker 5: kind of a Trump that can connect to a working 926 00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:10,279 Speaker 5: class audience, and particularly Mike then brings in because he 927 00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,760 Speaker 5: was saved late in his life. You know, he found 928 00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:14,719 Speaker 5: God and he found Jesus Christ. Lateness, like because you 929 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,719 Speaker 5: read his book. He was a degenerate, right, I mean, 930 00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:21,640 Speaker 5: degenerate gambler, you know, drugs, the whole thing, but books. 931 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,560 Speaker 5: I mean, I meet this guy, I say, you're one 932 00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,120 Speaker 5: of the nicest men. I from met him man. I 933 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:29,399 Speaker 5: read that book. You're a flat out gangster. But that's 934 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,400 Speaker 5: one of the reasons they're after you, Mike Lindell. They 935 00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,719 Speaker 5: understand your conversion story is powerful. You understand how you 936 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,279 Speaker 5: live your faith is powerful. They understand the message you 937 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,480 Speaker 5: are just being successful you are and having a happy, 938 00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,680 Speaker 5: successful company is what they want to destroy, and they're 939 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,960 Speaker 5: trying to destroy you, Sir Mike Lindell. 940 00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:51,240 Speaker 10: Yeah, it's horrible right now, everybody. And I've just sided 941 00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:55,680 Speaker 10: this morning after talking to my lawyers and CPAs and 942 00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:59,239 Speaker 10: the Treasury Department. By the way, the IRS has attacked 943 00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:03,200 Speaker 10: my pill and it's something that's going to affect everyone, 944 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,839 Speaker 10: most people in this country, and we're at the tip 945 00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:06,480 Speaker 10: of the spear. 946 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:08,040 Speaker 2: I'm going all at him. 947 00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,000 Speaker 10: I'm going after the I R S for what they're 948 00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,480 Speaker 10: doing to us right now, and I'll have full disclosure 949 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,680 Speaker 10: on that, maybe a full report on that for you 950 00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,040 Speaker 10: all as soon as I'm gonna find out everything I 951 00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:20,960 Speaker 10: can and can't say this afternoon, but as far as 952 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,439 Speaker 10: I'm going, I'm telling it all. I mean, what they're 953 00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:27,920 Speaker 10: doing is horrific. And this was when Biden left. He 954 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,600 Speaker 10: put this little little thing in here Let's let's start 955 00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:34,960 Speaker 10: with my pillow Keith Ellison in Minnesota to go after 956 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,280 Speaker 10: this has been going on all week, piling on since 957 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,840 Speaker 10: the President did his great shout out for myself and 958 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:45,400 Speaker 10: others that have helped us, uh secure our elections and 959 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:50,120 Speaker 10: and helped helped him out, and uh did Keith Ellison 960 00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,920 Speaker 10: the day after he went in all attacking my Lindell 961 00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:57,960 Speaker 10: Recovery Network and I and also my Lindell Foundation, uh 962 00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,160 Speaker 10: Lindell Lindell Outreach, all the stuff that I put all 963 00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:06,440 Speaker 10: the funding in. And it's like they is very intentional, 964 00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:08,960 Speaker 10: and it's very and they're going, We're going, why are 965 00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:12,399 Speaker 10: they attacking you? Mike Donald Trump's already in and things. Boy, 966 00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:15,160 Speaker 10: you should get relief now. No, it's it's even worse 967 00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,839 Speaker 10: now because they I think they realize I'm not going 968 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,799 Speaker 10: to stop till we get to secure elections. And like 969 00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,279 Speaker 10: Steve said, they don't like the fact that it's the 970 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:28,319 Speaker 10: American dream and be able to get to find Jesus Christ, 971 00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,880 Speaker 10: my Lord and Savior. 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