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Speaker 1: And on the fifth practice they put the pads on.

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Speaker 1: Welcome burg Gang. On today's show, Paul Calvis he joins me,

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Speaker 1: the first padded practice of training camp, or as GM,

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Speaker 1: Monty austin Ford put it real football. So what did

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Speaker 1: hear from both Kyler Murray Andrew Petsing. It's Cardinals Cover

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Speaker 1: two episode seven to seventy five, and it starts now.

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Speaker 1: He's at the ten half of five. He's it again

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Speaker 1: some more Hurry magic.

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Speaker 2: Whow here's Craigdriolo.

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Speaker 1: So, the first full week of Cards camp and according

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Speaker 1: to the head coach Jonathan Gannon, a big time week

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Speaker 1: and for starters because on Monday the pads came on,

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Speaker 1: or as Monty Austin Ford liked to call it real football.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, there was some pounding, there was some thumping,

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Speaker 1: no physicality as far as fights, or anything like that.

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Speaker 1: But it is good to have the pads on because

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Speaker 1: you do get a truer evaluation of some of these players.

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Speaker 3: Where the post office is open and the banks, because

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Speaker 3: this really should have been a holiday. Honestly, once again,

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Speaker 3: it's legislation that if I'm ever elected any sort of

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Speaker 3: it was good to see and hear the full pads

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Speaker 3: but enough to get everyone's attention to get what Jonathan

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Speaker 3: rookie Darius Robinson going against i mean experience NFL offensive lineman.

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Speaker 1: Overheard on the sideline during that O line D line

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Speaker 1: talking about Darius and how much we see that early on.

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Speaker 1: Well, just think about where we were a year ago

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Speaker 3: Look, Zavan Collins is in the most critical year of

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Speaker 3: So when Drew Petsing met the media to start the

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Speaker 3: What exactly did he mean by that? Was he messing

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Speaker 3: Chew on this. I'm not so sure. I'm not so

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Speaker 3: out the Arizona Cardinals led the NFL in thirteen personnel

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Speaker 3: a window into what Drew Petson and Jonathan Gann and

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Speaker 3: much greater margin than even I anticipated. So to your point,

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Speaker 3: if you're going now with multiple tight ends and or

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Speaker 3: that's still the mentality this year teas forward. We had

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Speaker 3: talked about is something that Petsing was asked, and that

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Speaker 3: And then Tip Riman, who has been much more involved

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Speaker 1: But I do think you're gonna see less four wide

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Speaker 3: And I think ultimately what they're trying to do catch

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Speaker 3: a minute, tip Ryman is pretty dang athletic. Not only

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Speaker 3: So all it takes is that one or two times

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Speaker 3: then Kyler and your sex has the ability to see

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Speaker 3: all accounts, he's no longer wondering, Okay, how does the

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Speaker 3: he's able to completely commit to dissecting the defense and

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Speaker 1: And that's the key right there. Don't allow the defense

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Speaker 1: and you can do different things with those same eleven,

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Speaker 1: the defense need to get gashed as long as you

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Speaker 1: continue to move the ball forward keep the ball in bounds,

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Speaker 1: do see some of that downfield passing attach which was

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Speaker 3: And you know what, speaking of the downfield passing game,

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Speaker 3: the best rating in downfield accuracy on chunk throws of

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Speaker 3: two seasons. Injury obviously impacted those seasons, but we all

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Speaker 3: So if you can get back to that point where

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Speaker 3: where it really gets intriguing. By the way, did you happen.

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Speaker 1: To see the first eleven on eleven, the first team

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Speaker 1: Ron Wofley has been advocating this for a long period

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Speaker 3: Now it's much easier for me to disagree with Ron

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Speaker 3: Wolfley when he's not here, okay, when he can't take

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Speaker 3: this is an honest question. Is Kyler Murray under center

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Speaker 3: Didn't we see enough of Kyler under center last year

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Speaker 3: And then once he embraced that, there were benefits to that,

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Speaker 3: But at this point, to me, the headline is when

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Speaker 3: Drew Petsin said, the under center comma run game that

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Speaker 3: you know what QB power at times, the old Cam Newton,

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Speaker 3: you know we're going to schoolhouse left and you know

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Speaker 3: But to me and to me, that's where there's potential

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Speaker 3: It increased each week. I think you're going to see

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Speaker 3: I'm not keeping track of how many times Kyler was

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Speaker 3: And now I sound like a coach, however.

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Speaker 1: You're getting into the red zone and more importantly getting

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Speaker 3: And to me, in December and January of last season,

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Speaker 3: whole notion that will be whatever we need to be

431
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Speaker 3: to beat you is more than just a coaching cliche.

432
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,000
Speaker 3: With Drew Petson in this offense, they really do have

433
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 3: that ability to get into virtually any sort of personnel

434
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Speaker 3: group at any point in the game. And I think

435
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 3: it's that variety of looks, including Kyler in an empty

436
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 3: set in the gun like he was his first four

437
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Speaker 3: years in the league, and then all of a sudden,

438
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Speaker 3: I guess. But if the DBS have their back to

439
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage, he gone, he's just gonna take

440
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 3: off and run for the sticks. So I think we'll

441
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 3: continue to see all of that. And if Trey Benson,

442
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 3: for example, is the receiving back, they think he is

443
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,479
Speaker 3: combined with James Connor being a heck of a receiver

444
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 3: out of the backfield, and then a Michael Carter who

445
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 3: showed that he has that ability as well. Yes, you

446
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 3: do have the ability not only put tight ends and

447
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 3: flex him out, but get you get wider, you get

448
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 3: running backs up to the line of scrimmage, and Kyler's

449
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,199
Speaker 3: just operating and empty moments after going thirteen personnel, And

450
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,199
Speaker 3: I just think it gives a lot for a defense

451
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Speaker 3: to think about.

452
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Speaker 1: On the subjects of the offense. We heard from Drew

453
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Speaker 1: Petsing before practice, after practice, Kyler Murray addressing the media

454
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Speaker 1: for the first time here in training camp. Quote, I

455
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Speaker 1: don't put any limit on what this offense can be

456
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Speaker 1: or do. I don't believe I've scratched the first surface

457
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Speaker 1: of what I'm capable of end quote. The more we

458
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Speaker 1: hear from Kyler, there does seem to be that chip

459
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 1: on the shoulder. I do believe, whether he wants to

460
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,919
Speaker 1: admit it publicly or not, he hears things, sees things,

461
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 1: reads things where he ranks where he doesn't rank. All

462
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Speaker 1: the conversation. He's doing his best to end all of

463
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 1: that or erase all of that. But you have to

464
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Speaker 1: produce on game day. And he is always been confident,

465
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Speaker 1: but there just seems to be a little bit more

466
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 1: of an air era of confidence around him now year two,

467
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 1: behind the front office and coaching staff that has empowered him,

468
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Speaker 1: believes in him. And then the amount of time we

469
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Speaker 1: saw Kyler with his teammates this offseason, which we had

470
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Speaker 1: never seen before.

471
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Speaker 3: And then to hear Michael Wilson talk about that at

472
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Speaker 3: length with day Pass and the Pashpod and he called it, quote,

473
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Speaker 3: that's leadership what Kyler did in the offseason, having the

474
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Speaker 3: guys over to his house during the NBA playoffs just

475
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 3: to hang out on a Tuesday night and watch some

476
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Speaker 3: basketball and have dinner. Take him to SoCal right when

477
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 3: it was ultra hot in the az and you go

478
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Speaker 3: over to UCLA and you rent the mansion in bel

479
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Speaker 3: Air and you put up the fellas and you go

480
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Speaker 3: and get your workouts in, and then you're going out

481
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 3: to the high schools eight weekends in a row to

482
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Speaker 3: get extra passing drills. As Michael Wilson explained it, the

483
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Speaker 3: word is going to start to get out. People are

484
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,719
Speaker 3: going to see the results. I know Albert Breer from

485
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 3: Sports Illustrated made a training camp visit and I just

486
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 3: saw the tweet. Unread the article, but one of the

487
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 3: bullet points in the suite explaining all the highlights in

488
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,400
Speaker 3: his column it said, quote Kyler Murray taking a blow

489
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Speaker 3: torch to perception, meaning Kyler the new and improved leader,

490
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 3: Kyler taking all these guys into the fold and treating

491
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Speaker 3: this team as if it is truly his own. Guess

492
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Speaker 3: what it is. You're a quarterback. You're a franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 3: By default, you have to be the team leader. He's

494
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Speaker 3: fully embrace Thatt. I think he's grown into it and

495
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 3: the guys. There's two things about having a franchise quarterback.

496
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Speaker 3: Number One, you know you have a chance because If

497
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Speaker 3: you have that guy at quarterback, you don't have to

498
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Speaker 3: be have the strongest roster in the league. That guy

499
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Speaker 3: can make up for a lot of weaknesses on a

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Speaker 3: fifty three man. If you have that dude playing at

501
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Speaker 3: a high level and then number two, everyone goes into

502
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 3: that game knowing that they have a real good chance

503
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 3: to win as long as he plays well, and they

504
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 3: don't want to disappoint that guy. They don't want to

505
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 3: be the reason you don't win, because you know what,

506
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 3: we have the quarterback to win. So I don't want

507
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 3: to be the loose link here right in the whole equation.

508
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 3: And then, of course, guess what if this guy's taking

509
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Speaker 3: care of you in the offseason, there's just that much

510
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 3: more buy in and want to from a roster. And

511
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 3: I can't prove it, I can't produce any data, but

512
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 3: it's most definitely a vibe that Jonathan Gannon and maniasin

513
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Speaker 3: Fort have indeed cleanse this raw James Conner have weeded

514
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 3: out dudes Will Hernandez. You heard Jonathan Gannon explain the

515
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 3: process by which they ended up drafting Max Melton had

516
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 3: nothing to do with the tape. They started with the

517
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,919
Speaker 3: guy the personality, and after they had an interview at

518
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 3: the Combine, then they had a few more interviews on Zoom.

519
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 3: Him and Mony looked at each other and they said, Okay,

520
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 3: do we want this guy in our building? We do.

521
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,880
Speaker 3: We like the personality, we like the makeup of this guy.

522
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 3: Now let's go and really do a deep dive into

523
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 3: the film. It's almost reverse engineer. It's not Kenny play,

524
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,199
Speaker 3: it's Kenny fit. Will he buy in? And then if

525
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 3: he can, let's see if he's worthy of the draft

526
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 3: pick based on his caliber, athleticism and skill.

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Speaker 1: On that topic, Kyler Murray to Albert Breyer on Sports Illustrated,

528
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 1: the article that you're referencing, Paul, here is the buy

529
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Speaker 1: in that the front office is looking for. They're looking

530
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Speaker 1: for a certain type of player, which you, Paul, have

531
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,640
Speaker 1: always said. Here's Kyler Murray quote. The guys that they

532
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 1: continued to bring in love the game and share the

533
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 1: same competitiveness that I have. If they don't, they probably

534
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 1: won't be here too much longer.

535
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 3: There you go. Let that hang in the air.

536
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:10,239
Speaker 2: Well.

537
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,199
Speaker 3: Ern End has said as much. He said, you know

538
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,959
Speaker 3: what the culture is in place, and when guys come in,

539
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 3: they really have no choice. You either conform and buy

540
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 3: in or you stick out and you're not around much longer.

541
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Speaker 3: Dennis Gardek, right before training camp open, proclaimed, the culture

542
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 3: has been built, so it's in place, and that's why

543
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 3: everyone is so optimistic and looking at Okay, you have

544
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 3: enough parts, you have the culture, you have the physicality.

545
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 3: Now if you have that guy at quarterback, guess what

546
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 3: you can be a Houston Texans. Houston Texans went from

547
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 3: four wins. Why because they got that guy at quarterback.

548
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 3: They got a head coach who demanded accountability and physicality

549
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 3: a lot like Jonathan gannon defensive minded head coach. And

550
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 3: then of course they some home runs and other draft

551
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 3: picks and guys developed. And so you see that potential

552
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 3: with the Cardinals, especially at least to me, when you

553
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 3: know that you have the offensive line in place. The

554
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 3: offensive line is a key to everything. If it's good enough,

555
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 3: then you can be, you know, a winning team in

556
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 3: this league. So all that and more Kyler Murray leading

557
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 3: the way, it just makes for such an intriguing year

558
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 3: versus starting.

559
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: Last year with a backup right out of the gate

560
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: and then having that dynamic wide receiver, that true number

561
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: one wide receiver, as Kyler told reporters on Monday afternoon,

562
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: when a guy's got it, he's got it, and he's

563
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: definitely got it with the emphasis on the it. And

564
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: I do believe, as we heard pet sing earlier, it's

565
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: not just going to be the DeAndre Hopkins lineup on

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Speaker 1: the left side. You are going to see eighteen as

567
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: well as everyone else that catches a ball. The ability

568
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: to line up everywhere on the field. How many times

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Speaker 1: out here, Paul, have we seen Marvin Harrison Junior this

570
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: slot next to Michael Wilson or next to a Greg

571
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: Dortsch And then after that it's like, okay, then yeah,

572
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: you're gonna run your particular route, but wanting a certain

573
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: type of person, a certain type of player, but not

574
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: pigeonholing those players into certain areas of the field, or

575
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: this is what you do. Now. You need to be

576
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: able to do X, Y and Z because you never know,

577
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: as Nick Rolis likes to say, who's going to lose

578
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:33,479
Speaker 1: a shoe. That's what this roster is in totality. But

579
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: you always need that one true number one and a

580
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 1: wide receiver, and that is Marvin Harrison Junior.

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Speaker 3: Would you say, Marvin Harrison Junior has had a pretty

582
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 3: quiet start to camp. He's definitely in moments where he's impressed,

583
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 3: but he's far from the team is going isn't exactly

584
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 3: going out of its way to feature him, And I

585
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 3: wonder if that carries over to the preseason and if

586
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 3: by a zign they keep him under wraps of Darren

587
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 3: Urban's theory once upout a time what the Cardinals do

588
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 3: with an Kwon Bolden Now an kwon boll is much

589
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 3: more under the radar than the number four picking the

590
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 3: draft of Marvin Harrison Junior, son of a Hall of Famer,

591
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 3: I get it, but I do wonder if the Cardinals

592
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 3: purposely don't put a lot of number eighteen on film

593
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 3: in the preseason and then all of a sudden, you

594
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 3: know what the Bills are gonna have to figure out

595
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,959
Speaker 3: accordingly in Week one. I wonder, But I will say this,

596
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 3: those who do it best make it look easy. Marvin

597
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 3: Harrison Junior makes the receiver position look easy.

598
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 1: Man.

599
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 3: He's in and out of his brakes with just absolute

600
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,479
Speaker 3: a plumb the ability to catch the ball. It just

601
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 3: make it look so natural. And the size we've seen

602
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 3: him go up for a few grabs even saw him

603
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 3: block and a James Connor sweep in the full pads Wolf.

604
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 3: I heard Wolf barking behind me. I'm shooting on video.

605
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,959
Speaker 3: Wolf's barking behind me. Did you see that? And I'm like,

606
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 3: what what I miss? He said eighteen, getting his face

607
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 3: mask dirty, sticking his nose in there and throwing a

608
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 3: block for James Connor, which is mandatory for Jonathan Gannon

609
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 3: by the way, if you're gonna play receiver, you are

610
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 3: going to block. But but yeah, as far as Marvin

611
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 3: Errison Junior, I just wonder if it'll be a quiet

612
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 3: August in the interest of having a you know, an

613
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 3: absolute huge September and start to his career one.

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Speaker 1: It's just not his nature. He doesn't have that big

615
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: personality like a Max Melton does, whirling up into the

616
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: wigwam and a nice car. That's I just don't get

617
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: that feeling, that vibe from an MHJ who had the

618
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: best teacher in his home and his father the Hall

619
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Speaker 1: of Famer and you. He just made it to your point.

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00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: He makes it look easy. He looks like a veteran

621
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: out there, and I think one time he did see

622
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: him drag a bag or whatever. The maybe part of

623
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: the rookie duties. We haven't heard from him since training

624
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: camp began.

625
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 3: Maybe that's part of it too, we haven't heard from him.

626
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: But there hasn't been that spectacular diving catch or out

627
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: jumping three to some of that you don't get in

628
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: training camp anyway. But he just doesn't carry himself like

629
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 1: that wide receiver. Hey look at me, I'm what everyone

630
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 1: came to see.

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Speaker 3: It's true. The last time Cardinals had a true wide receiver,

632
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 3: one was DeAndre Hopkins, and he'd get at least a

633
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 3: dozen targets per practice.

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00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: Right.

635
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,239
Speaker 3: That hasn't happened with Marvin Harrison Junior. There's really been

636
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 3: an equitable distribution to targets among all the receivers so far.

637
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 3: What I love about the Max Meltain A side note,

638
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 3: by the way, is you know a true car guy

639
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 3: who will spare no expense on his car, like two

640
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 3: hundred grand plus on the supercar he rolled up on,

641
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 3: but he's shopping everything else. You have to be thrifty.

642
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 3: So he got his throwback jersey a good will. That's

643
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 3: what I love. He shot make up for the make

644
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 3: up the budget to balance it out a little bit.

645
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, the car, spare no expense everything else.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, we're on a budget. That's what I love

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Speaker 3: about Max Melton. Well, that's what you do with your car.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you spare no expense and then you tell

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Speaker 1: just just deal with what is left over.

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Speaker 3: Greg, We're supposed to keep that on the down low

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Speaker 3: from the wife. Okay, the wife doesn't really know the

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Speaker 3: expenses on that. I sort of hide that budget. Okay, accordingly,

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Speaker 3: So we'll edit that out later as.

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Speaker 1: We come to you here on this Monday. Another open

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Speaker 1: practice on Tuesday. The Cardinals will be here on Saturday, though,

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Speaker 1: in fact, open practices on Thursday, Friday, and Saturday, which

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Speaker 1: is the red and White practice. All the details on

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Speaker 1: asycardinals dot com Forward Slash Camp tis that is asycardinals

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Speaker 1: dot com Forward Slash Camp ticks. And then before you

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Speaker 1: know it, there'll be a preseason game just right around

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Speaker 1: the corner a week from Saturday. Then Orlands Saints will

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Speaker 1: be in town on Saturday, August ninth, and all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, we are off to the races as far

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Speaker 1: as where we go from here.

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Speaker 3: So I'm still learning the roster let's see if I

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Speaker 3: got this. Twenty six is Bobby Price twenty seven to

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Speaker 3: Vaud Wilson twenty eight, Elijah Jones twenty nine, Michael Oujamedia

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Speaker 3: I after I work on that pronunciation, darn it, Paul.

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Speaker 3: Number thirty is always tough because there's there's Xavier Weaver,

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Speaker 3: by the way, just might be the Pauli Pigskin breakout

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Speaker 3: player at camp. Xavier Weaver on offense. And then there's

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Speaker 3: also Darren Hall, the cornerback number thirty. So we're still

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Speaker 3: getting the far depths of the ninety man committed to

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Speaker 1: And let me correct myself, Saturday August tenth, not August nice.

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Speaker 1: So Paul, you got yourself an extra day.

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Speaker 3: I just gave.

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Speaker 1: I just give I Knew an extra day to prep

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Speaker 3: I need it, you know, because you never know what

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Speaker 3: you're gonna get in the form of a spotter, you

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Speaker 3: better know the Cardinals roster.

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Speaker 1: Coal And on that note, we'll put a lid on

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Speaker 1: this edition of Cardinals Cover two presented by a Hundai,

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Speaker 1: proudly partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As always special thanks

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Speaker 1: to our executive producer Jim on one hundre Our associate

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Speaker 1: producer Coddy Fincher for Paul Calvic, I'm preg rial, Lou.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next time here on Cardinals Cover two,