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Speaker 1: But we are waiting to hear from owner Michael Bidwell

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Speaker 1: the news of the day, head coach Cliff Kingsbury relieved

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Speaker 1: And now two major holes within this Cardinals organization going

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Speaker 1: I mean, normally, the way I've handled things is, um,

432
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Speaker 1: you know, I want I want to be I want

433
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,160
Speaker 1: to understand what we're doing and why we're doing it,

434
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Speaker 1: and I think that's appropriate for me. But I'm not

435
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 1: making the decisions about who we're signing and resigning and

436
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 1: things like that. What would make you go over at

437
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 1: a coach before you settling at GM's sake, Well, I'm

438
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 1: sure there are lots of factors. I haven't seen it yet,

439
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:15,640
Speaker 1: so that's why I say the preference is to hire

440
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 1: a general manager first. So there's a lot of players

441
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: players from this year's roster. Where do you start in

442
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:26,640
Speaker 1: terms of evaluating the twenty twenty two team and going forward? Well,

443
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 1: I don't know that I'll do the the evaluating. I'm

444
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 1: going to let the general manager and coach do that. Um,

445
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:39,120
Speaker 1: But certainly I think that, um, you know, I did

446
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 1: feel like we had the talent to win more games.

447
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,439
Speaker 1: The injuries really stacked up on us and it was

448
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 1: just unfortunate the way we performed and disappointing. And so

449
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 1: again that was why it was time for a change.

450
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 1: And Quinton, they're right guys who paid their dues obviously,

451
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Speaker 1: but is there any part of you things who we

452
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 1: need an outside voice of new organization. Yes, that's why

453
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,199
Speaker 1: we're casting the net far and wide. I want to

454
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 1: be wide open and open minded about who is the

455
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: best candidate. It's not necessarily going to be an internal candidate.

456
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 1: Why you mentioned having interviewed and the interniicated already with

457
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 1: the head coaching job is at fans And what do

458
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 1: you see from NIDID could maybe make a head coach. Yeah,

459
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry if I don't think I mentioned that, But

460
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: if I did, I was mistaken. I expect that we

461
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Speaker 1: may interview an internal candidate, and I think we will,

462
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 1: but I have not. We have not done that interview.

463
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: And but what I have done is is we've had

464
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 1: the interviews with both Quentin Harris and Adrian Wilson. You're

465
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Speaker 1: a head coach, do you want them to be more

466
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 1: of a CEO instead of like you said, you did

467
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Speaker 1: a matter of his offensive or on the defensive side.

468
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Speaker 1: But do of them to call please or do you

469
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Speaker 1: like them to be more of that overarching role where

470
00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 1: they have a coordinator you set? I think again that

471
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 1: I think it depends on on the exact person, and

472
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Speaker 1: I don't want to have any cookie cutter idea about

473
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Speaker 1: what what that model is and what works best. Um,

474
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Speaker 1: but it's really going to be about I want And

475
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: that's why the preference is to have the GM on

476
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 1: board first so that they can help with the evaluation

477
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 1: of who who the best coach will be and what

478
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: that style is going to be. MACA, why do you

479
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: think it is the last one? You know? Why do

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00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 1: you think this franchise hasn't been able to have a

481
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 1: coach last more than six seasons over a hundred years

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Speaker 1: within this organization? What do you think you need to

483
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 1: see the most who hopefully find more long Jevy with

484
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: the head coaching decision, Well, I look forward to our

485
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Speaker 1: next head coach having a lot of success and and

486
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: and being with us for a long long time and

487
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: bringing a kind of winning team to this community that

488
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Speaker 1: we can all be proud of. And I look forward

489
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Speaker 1: to that. Thank you for your time and your questions

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Speaker 1: this afternoon, and I'm gonna proceed on with the with

491
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Speaker 1: the searches than owner Michael Bidwell addressing reporters here at

492
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 1: the Dignity Health Arizona Cardinals Training Center following the news

493
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: of the day, head coach Cliff Kingsbury fired and general

494
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Speaker 1: manager Steve Kim stepping down to focus on his health.

495
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: Craig Railu back with you here and soon to be

496
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: joined by our entire panel of Cardinals insiders, Darren Urban,

497
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 1: Paul Calvesi, and Danny Serek. A near twenty minutes press

498
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Speaker 1: conference that touched on a number of different subjects. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: why the decision was made today, the surprise that Michael

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00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: Bidwell had, that Steve cime Or submitted his resignation and

501
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 1: is no longer a part of the team, a team

502
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: that he has been a part of since nineteen ninety nine.

503
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Speaker 1: As we've got the entire crew gathered here as well,

504
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Speaker 1: and as we look, I guess I'll start with the

505
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Speaker 1: one who has covered this team and the most, and

506
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Speaker 1: that would be the gentleman on my left, the elder

507
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: statesman amongst the four of us. It's always got to

508
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: be the age, doesn't it. Of course, what stood out

509
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 1: to you, I guess, big picture twenty thousand foot view

510
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 1: on what we heard from Michael Bidwell today, I think

511
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: the thing that just stood out was for all the

512
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: speculation over what this team might do and how they

513
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 1: might stick with internal candidates, both at general manager and

514
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Speaker 1: at coach. I mean, Michael Bidwell made it sound pretty

515
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Speaker 1: clear that there was going to be a lot of

516
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Speaker 1: discussion about outside candidates, and they were going to talk

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Speaker 1: to multiple outside candidates, and that's definitely a possibility. So

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Speaker 1: I think again, I think with all the kind of

519
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 1: the wave of oh, Adrian Wilson or Quintin Harris is

520
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: going to get that GM job and Advanced Joseph might

521
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 1: be this coach that could happen. But I did not

522
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: get the sense that they're anywhere close to making that.

523
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: Michael Bidwell is anywhere close to making that kind of decision.

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Speaker 1: Quinton Harrison Adrian Wilson both have interviewed. There's been an

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Speaker 1: external candidate interviewed for the GM job. Vance Joseph has

526
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 1: not been interviewed as to be the head coach. For you,

527
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Speaker 1: Danny Wood, what was the big takeaway for you during

528
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Speaker 1: what was a almost twenty minutes press conference. I think

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Speaker 1: just the fact that the hard decision that had to

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Speaker 1: be made and Bidwell saying he wanted to wait the

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00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 1: entire seventeen games, eighteen weeks with the buy to make

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Speaker 1: his decision, and that this isn't an easy one. Despite

533
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: both Steve Kim and Cliff Kingsbury getting contract extensions through

534
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty seven season roughly eleven months ago, Bidwell

535
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: had high praises, saying that he has never been around

536
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: a head coach that has worked harder than Kingsbury. This

537
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 1: is just the unfortunate business side of things, and saying

538
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: that he was surprised that Steve Kim decided to step

539
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: away and Bidwell accepted that resignation. I think just him

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Speaker 1: going off what Darren was saying that he is set

541
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Speaker 1: on having that net cast far and why being open

542
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 1: to different possibilities for general manager and head coach, making

543
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: sure that they have that partnership when it comes to

544
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,719
Speaker 1: personnel decisions moving forward, and I'm sure we'll talk later on.

545
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: He had some comments about Kyler Murray and his recovery

546
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: process as well, So there was a lot going on

547
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: in that press conference, and without a general manager in

548
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: place already, Paul, it's leaning on league executives. And then

549
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: Michael also touched on team leaders like a Kyler Murray

550
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: to get there and put their opinion on how this

551
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: process plays out. Yeah, when he said it's going to

552
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: be a different process this time around. I think it

553
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: almost has to be because of the circumstances at least

554
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: right now. So I think that was the most intriguing

555
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: part of it to me, at least initially. Okay, what

556
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: does that mean? What is that going to result in?

557
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 1: He cited repeatedly this wide net that the team is

558
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: going to cast way beyond just the internal candidates. Like

559
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: Darren mentioned, so, Okay, what has he ascertained over the

560
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: last coaching searches that he's conducted and how will that

561
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: play into this one? And the fact that at some

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00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 1: of these league meetings and that he's also been able

563
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: to sounds like interact even vet some of these potential candidates.

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Speaker 1: I think that's That's another big thing that I took

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Speaker 1: away is the is the process that he's a part

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Speaker 1: of actually in the league in terms of leading in

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Speaker 1: terms of the minority candidates. And and there's already been

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00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: a couple of times at league meetings where these uh,

569
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Speaker 1: these minority candidates in personal offices go out or coaches

570
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: and they go out and and interact and have some

571
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: time to spend with these owners so that they can

572
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: get in front of these owners. So there's there is

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Speaker 1: a more diverse process in terms of hiring these people.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Quentin Harris has taken part of it himself,

575
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Speaker 1: you know, working for the Cardinals, but he's been able

576
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: to meet these other people. And I think that's a

577
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: big deal. I mean, we we look at I mean

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Speaker 1: just the mere fact, you know, in the twenty some

579
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: years that I've covered this team, when they when they've made, uh,

580
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: these hires on the general manager level, there was always

581
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Speaker 1: somebody in that spot that Michael or Bill Bidwell could

582
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: lean on a little bit because all the general manager

583
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Speaker 1: hires have been internal. And even when he kind of

584
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Speaker 1: opened it, like when Steve Kim got hired in twenty thirteen,

585
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Speaker 1: there was somewhat of an open process. There were external

586
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 1: GM candidates interviewed, but ultimately it was Steve Kim and

587
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: he got hired fairly fast. So I think Steve Khim

588
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: was always going to be that guy before a Rod Graves.

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00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: So Michael's always had at least that one sounding board

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00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,439
Speaker 1: to talk about with a potential head coach, and that's

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00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 1: not really there. And I think if you're trying to

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00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: open up again, cast that wide net and open up

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Speaker 1: including the GM thing you can't. You can't rely a

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Speaker 1: whole lot on Adrian Wilson and Kenton Harris when you're

595
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: talking about potentially hiring them or not. So I do

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00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: think when he talks about the diversity process in the

597
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: league or calling people, calling established general managers and people

598
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: that he know in the league to try and get

599
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 1: their input on who the best candidates might be. I

600
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: think that's why it's a little bit different. The preference

601
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 1: is to hire a general manager first than the head coach.

602
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: Doesn't have to be that way, and Danny also mentioned

603
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 1: that it doesn't have to be an offensive minded head

604
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 1: coach or a defensive minded head coach. Of course, everyone

605
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: thinks offense because while the face of your franchise, Kyler Murray,

606
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: plays quarterback. I did think it was interesting when talking

607
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 1: about Kyler Murray and how he will be involved in

608
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: this process because ever since the hiring of Cliff Kingsbury

609
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,240
Speaker 1: and the drafting of Kyler Murray, that's been the connection

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00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 1: between the two is the relationship between Kyler Murray and

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00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury and the talk throughout the media about whether

612
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 1: or not that relationship had become strained or not, and

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00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: that connection there has been a talk this last season,

614
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 1: and so it was interesting to hear Michael Bidwell talk

615
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Speaker 1: about how he is going to keep Kyler Murray involved

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00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: in this process along with the other leaders in that

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00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: locker room. And I think that was a question that

618
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 1: a lot of people were wondering of. You have your

619
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback, so how is he going to be involved

620
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: making sure that there's a head coach so that they

621
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Speaker 1: mesh well. Saying necessarily that Kingsbury and Kyler Murray didn't

622
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,240
Speaker 1: match well, but the fact that you have two large

623
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: positions that need to be filled, how is your franchise

624
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 1: quarterback going to play a role in that process? And

625
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: he made it clear that he is going to keep

626
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray as part of that. What's intriguing to me

627
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 1: is you brought in Cliff Kingsbury in large part to

628
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: sync up with Kyler Murray. And I think that's why

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00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: Cliff got the extension because you knew Kyler Murray was

630
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 1: getting the extension and they were considered a combo. But

631
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: would Cliff Kingsbury be a better NFL head coach with

632
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:35,280
Speaker 1: an established quarterback who's more of a consummate team leader,

633
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: who holds everyone accountable, a Tom Brady, a Carson Palmer

634
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 1: who used to run the Friday practices out here. Carson

635
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: Palmer really was a coach who was intimately involved with

636
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: a lot of the game planning, sort of like like a

637
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 1: Cole McCoy is. So I think it's going to be

638
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 1: important obviously the potential relationship and how any candidates synks

639
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,399
Speaker 1: up with Kyler Murray, but it might not be as

640
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: important as it was the first time around when Kyler

641
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:05,240
Speaker 1: Murray was drafted. I think, and I'm I'm reading between

642
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: the lines a little bit. I don't want to necessarily

643
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: speak directly from Michael Bidwell, but I think I think

644
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 1: when he mentioned Kyler, because we mentioned Kyler, Kyler was

645
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: the name that was brought up in the press conference.

646
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 1: I don't think Kyler is necessarily getting it gets put

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Speaker 1: out there in the universe. Oh, Michael Bidwell said he's

648
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Speaker 1: going to talk to Kyler Murray about who they're gonna hire.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's really like that. I mean, I

650
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: do think he's going to be involved in terms of

651
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: he's going to have updates. He's not gonna They're not

652
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 1: gonna say, hey, Kyler, you know he's not going to

653
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Speaker 1: be in the interview, turned to Acy Cardinals dot Com

654
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Speaker 1: to find out who who we're potentially going to hire um.

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Speaker 1: But I don't think this is a question of, oh,

656
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Speaker 1: all of the quarterback, it's to pick who he's got.

657
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Speaker 1: I don't think that, and in fact, kind of going

658
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Speaker 1: to a little bit with Paul having to say, I

659
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if if this is, you know, just

660
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: like on a on a bigger scale, where you have

661
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: a once you had a player coach, then you have

662
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 1: kind of a more hardline coach for bigger you know,

663
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: Kyler had the players coach, you know, and maybe you

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Speaker 1: have a little bit more of a hardline coach, not

665
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: necessarily because Kyler has to have that, but to Paul's point,

666
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Speaker 1: maybe you're you're trying to get him forward to where

667
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Speaker 1: you want him to be as a quarterback, and it

668
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: wasn't working with where Cliff was, So maybe you take

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Speaker 1: that different tack, and you know, correct if you bring

670
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Speaker 1: in an outside candidate, how are you really going to

671
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Speaker 1: ascertain how that coach is going to really connect and

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Speaker 1: sync up with Kyler Murray durning an interview process, You

673
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: won't know you're gonna to project that out. So, I mean,

674
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Speaker 1: everyone's on their best behavior during an interview, right, so

675
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: everyone's going to say the right thing. The only real

676
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:47,240
Speaker 1: candidate that you know whether he's gonna work with Kyler

677
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 1: or not based on experience, is Vance Joseph. Now does

678
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Speaker 1: that give Vance Joseph a leg up on maybe some

679
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Speaker 1: of the other candidates, perhaps because of an existing reladership

680
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,760
Speaker 1: with Kyler Murray. But if you're bringing a Jim Harbaugh,

681
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: Sean Payton, unknown young guy up and comer, how do

682
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,800
Speaker 1: you know how ultimately they're gonna interact and connect with

683
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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. So I think you have to make sure

684
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Speaker 1: that Kyler Murray respects the eventual head coach. But to

685
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Speaker 1: know how they're truly going to work together, that is

686
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 1: an't unknown. Well to that point though, and again this

687
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: is more of a larger picture. Into the offseason, it

688
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: was made very clear that the expectation is that Kyler

689
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 1: Murray is here in Arizona during his rehab. That's the

690
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 1: expectation from the owner. If you want to get that

691
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 1: relationship with whomever the head coach might be, you've got

692
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: to be here physically within this building and being a

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Speaker 1: part of the process and not being somewhere else. I

694
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Speaker 1: think I think as soon as the news broke Monday

695
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Speaker 1: morning that you were going to have a new gym

696
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Speaker 1: and a new coach, that that becomes a most Now.

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Speaker 1: I know there's still a chance you could hire internally,

698
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Speaker 1: where I guess you could kind of juggle some things

699
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Speaker 1: if you had to. But if they if they're external hires,

700
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Speaker 1: your quarterback's got to be here because there's there's got

701
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Speaker 1: to you've got, like you said, you've got to start

702
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Speaker 1: building their relationship. And quite frankly, even if you do

703
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Speaker 1: hire internally, I think, knowing some of the internal candidates

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Speaker 1: as I do, I think there's a probably a pretty

705
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Speaker 1: strong feeling like Kyler would have needed to be here. Anyways,

706
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Speaker 1: I mentioned this before we tossed to hear from Michael

707
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Speaker 1: Bidwell that we've seen quick turnarounds yearly in the National

708
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Speaker 1: Football League Jacksonville Jaguars most recently. Michael brought that up

709
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Speaker 1: as far as the talents is here, and he used

710
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Speaker 1: the word at least what I heard regressed two different

711
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Speaker 1: times during his twenty minutes, and that was something Danny

712
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 1: that we've it's been asked of Cliff Kingsbury. It's been

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Speaker 1: asked to players, and it's always been a little bit

714
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Speaker 1: of a pushback because no one outrightly publicly wanted to

715
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Speaker 1: say that. But there's no question that this team, on

716
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: both sides of the ball at times regressed from a

717
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: year ago. Absolutely, and that was with a lot of

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Speaker 1: carryover now. Michael Bidwell also pointed out that this team

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Speaker 1: had a lot of tough breaks, and we know that

720
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Speaker 1: very few of any teams had more injuries than the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals did. The Cardinals only had two players who played

722
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Speaker 1: every game, one on offense, one on defense, and you're right,

723
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Speaker 1: tackle Calvin Beecham and safety Jalen Thompson. So we know

724
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Speaker 1: that there were troubles and adversity that this team had

725
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Speaker 1: to face. But nobody else, You're right, Craig, nobody else

726
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Speaker 1: had admitted that this team had regressed, whether or not

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Speaker 1: they knew it. They kept that out of the storyline

728
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Speaker 1: from players and coaches, and that was a reason that

729
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,399
Speaker 1: Bidwell said he came to his decision when it came

730
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Speaker 1: to Cliff Kingsbury was just the time had come. There

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Speaker 1: had been enough of a regression, even though the previous

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Speaker 1: three years the team had improved, there was enough regression

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Speaker 1: for his decision to let go of Cliff Kingsbury. I

734
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Speaker 1: think his statement was we're not as broken as people think.

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Speaker 1: That's a good and look, you can cite ten and

736
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Speaker 1: two and that's how they started last year, and obviously

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Speaker 1: they have the talent. But ever since they've lost eighteen

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Speaker 1: to twenty three, and they've been in different ways in

739
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Speaker 1: a bra and then the home record they lost twelve

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Speaker 1: last thirteen at home. So there is something that is missing,

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Speaker 1: whether it's just regression, whether it's the lack of attention

742
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Speaker 1: to detail which a lot of the player's site, which

743
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Speaker 1: might have been one of the big reasons why there's

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Speaker 1: going to be a new head coach. The accountability that

745
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 1: perhaps was missing at certain levels, not what the elite

746
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Speaker 1: team leaders, because to me, there was enough leadership in

747
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Speaker 1: that locker room when you have JJ Watt and Buddha

748
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 1: Baker and James Connor and Kelvin Beecham and Colt McCoy.

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Speaker 1: So the new head coach and GM need to assess

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Speaker 1: what is missing now In terms of personnel, I think

751
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: it's easy to look at the line of scrimmage both sides.

752
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: Obviously a lot of question marks on the old line,

753
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 1: you have a talent deficit right now. In the D line.

754
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,959
Speaker 1: You need a pass rusher obviously off the edge. So

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00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: if you can resolve those the line of scrimmage, then yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would agree there are enough weapons you can get

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00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 1: back into contention. What's the statue busted out recently? Since

758
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety, they've been four new playoff teams every single

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00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 1: every single year, every single at least four. Yeah, So

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Speaker 1: you know, unless you're an absolute outlier in the NFL,

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00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 1: you do have a chance every season. Well, I think

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Speaker 1: I just think another pattern to the last couple of

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Speaker 1: years is you're not just talking about the last twenty

764
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Speaker 1: or so games poll, it's every season. We've noticed the

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Speaker 1: pattern of the last couple of games and how the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals have fallen off in the home stretch when it

767
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 1: is important to win and to start building momentum and

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Speaker 1: getting hot the right time of the year. That's never

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Speaker 1: happened under head coach Cliff Kingsbury, and I think that's

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Speaker 1: something too to keep in mind of. It's not just

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Speaker 1: the last two seasons or playing at home. It's been

772
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: the home stretch has been a problem every year. I'm curious.

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Speaker 1: Another thing that I noticed. I mean, when you talk

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Speaker 1: about turnaround, I mean we are talking about the reality,

775
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 1: the very realistic possibility that you don't have Kyler Murray

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Speaker 1: for the first four games, five games, maybe six games, whatever,

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00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,320
Speaker 1: that is a concern. Then that would be a certain

778
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Speaker 1: of any head coach to me coming in, depending on

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Speaker 1: what the situation is. That said, I did notice that

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Speaker 1: Michael Bidwell made a point to say that the forty

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Speaker 1: nine ers are on their third quarterback and still winning

782
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: a lot of games, so you know there are going

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00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: to be expectations. I do think there's there's this roster

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00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 1: needs a lot of help right now. That's my personal

785
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: look at it. I mean, they've got more than thirty

786
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Speaker 1: free agents through thirty unrestricted free agents, so just by

787
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Speaker 1: sheer numbers, there's a lot of questions over what's going

788
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 1: to happen and their cap situation and how they're going

789
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: to deal with it, and DeAndre Hopkins and what do

790
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: you do with him and all these things. I mean,

791
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: these are all discussions for future podcasts and other live streams,

792
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 1: but I mean these are the questions that if you're

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Speaker 1: a GM or a coach. Obviously, these guys want their chances,

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Speaker 1: and there's only as as Dave McGinnis once said to me,

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Speaker 1: right before he got hired of being intromed to the

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Speaker 1: regular head coach. We were talking early one morning. I

797
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: was still working in a newspaper and he comes in

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Speaker 1: and he goes, these guys offer me the job. Should

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Speaker 1: I take it? And I'm like things were not in

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Speaker 1: a good place then, and I'm like, wow, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: This would be kind of a tough thing. And he goes, LIXI.

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Speaker 1: He goes, you know what, Darren, He goes, there's only

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Speaker 1: thirty two of these. You only get so many chances,

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Speaker 1: so you're going to get a decent amount of candidates

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00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 1: that are willing to do it. But again, what job

806
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 1: do you have in front of you? You guys are right,

807
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: it can be turned around quickly. But here's my last question.

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Speaker 1: Here's my last question. If there are so many internal decisions,

809
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 1: and there are right nearly three dozen unrestricted free agents

810
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 1: and or existing players, you have to answer that question,

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Speaker 1: who's best equipped to evaluate those players and make those decisions,

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00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: someone who's been around those players, or do you need

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Speaker 1: an outside new set eyes, a different viewpoint. Maybe, but

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Speaker 1: it's me a lot of film to watch on a

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Speaker 1: lot of different players, and how comfortable is an outside

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00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: are going to feel and determining the fate of a

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Speaker 1: lot of existing players when there are internal evaluators like

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Speaker 1: in Adrian Wilson and Quinn Harris and or advanced Joseph

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Speaker 1: who might have the answer right now? Is that more

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00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 1: of a short term solution though, if you're trying to

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Speaker 1: find a GM, I'm just curious if that's the pro

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Speaker 1: of having it, but you feel stronger by bringing in

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Speaker 1: an outside candidate in every other scenario, is that really

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Speaker 1: a pro? If you have an internal hire because they

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00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: know the players unrestrictive free agents from this year, you

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Speaker 1: don't really give a GM or a one or two

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Speaker 1: year deal off the bat, so that would be something

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Speaker 1: to consider as well. And the other thing too is

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Speaker 1: coaching is kind of a different deal, although as of

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Speaker 1: right now the assistants are all the ones that are

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Speaker 1: under contractors still around until whatever. But with the GM situation,

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Speaker 1: if you don't hire internally, we don't know what's going

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00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,879
Speaker 1: to happen with Adrian Wilson and Quentin Harris. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we know that Quentin Harris has already been asked to.

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Speaker 1: They've asked for permission to interview him for the Titans

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Speaker 1: open GM job. But if one of them is still here,

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Speaker 1: and I know Michael Biddwell likes both of them a lot,

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00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: if you hire an outside GM is at outside GM

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Speaker 1: willing to work with them continually in the personnel department,

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00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: and then you have the best of both worlds. Then

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00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 1: you might have an outside I, but you also have

842
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Speaker 1: somebody who knows all these free an So it's going

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00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:20,879
Speaker 1: to be interesting to see how it plays out over

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Speaker 1: the next three four weeks. Oh and maybe sooner than that,

845
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,839
Speaker 1: because as Michael Bidwell alluded to, there's an incredible sense

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Speaker 1: of urgency because there are four other head coach openings

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00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,839
Speaker 1: right now in the National Football League. So sooner rather

848
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: than later, a general manager and head coach both get

849
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Speaker 1: hired and we can start talking about on the field

850
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 1: roster construction as opposed to what's going on in the

851
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:45,959
Speaker 1: front office. But of course follow it all on easy

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Speaker 1: Cardinals dot com. The fine writings of one Darren Urban

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Speaker 1: and these us three right here, the talking heads will

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Speaker 1: just blab around about what's going on with the Arizona Cardinal.

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Speaker 1: He writes it, We dissect it all the coverage on

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