1
00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,480
Speaker 1: The following episode of That Moment is presented for educational

2
00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:07,960
Speaker 1: and informational purposes only. It does not constitute medical advice,

3
00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:11,400
Speaker 1: nor should it substitute for guidance from a medical professional.

4
00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:15,560
Speaker 1: Viewers should always consult directly with their doctor or healthcare

5
00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:22,079
Speaker 1: provider for any medical advice, diagnoses, or treatment recommendations. Information

6
00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:26,439
Speaker 1: and recommendations discussed in this episode are subject to change

7
00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:30,560
Speaker 1: and should not be solely relied upon when making medical decisions.

8
00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,400
Speaker 1: This program shall not be liable for any viewer's reliance

9
00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:38,800
Speaker 1: on the medical information contained herein. We advise consulting a

10
00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,960
Speaker 1: physician regarding any medical questions you may have.

11
00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:47,440
Speaker 2: I need you to use your platform to get out there.

12
00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,839
Speaker 2: There's too many men of color coming down with this disease,

13
00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,120
Speaker 2: and I need you to get out there and say, hey,

14
00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,279
Speaker 2: look I have it, and you know what.

15
00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,600
Speaker 3: I'm getting treated. I'm going to be okay. You can too.

16
00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,280
Speaker 3: You just need to get checked every year. Every year.

17
00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,240
Speaker 3: What if I told you there was more to the

18
00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:10,399
Speaker 3: story behind game changing events? Get ready for my new podcast,

19
00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:14,440
Speaker 3: That Moment with Damon John will jump into the personal

20
00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:17,720
Speaker 3: stories of some of the most influential people on the

21
00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:22,680
Speaker 3: planet from business mobiles and celebrities, to athletes and artists.

22
00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,920
Speaker 3: This man can save your life. I'm unfortunately level. I

23
00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,600
Speaker 3: lost somebody to cancer three weeks ago, and I just

24
00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:34,000
Speaker 3: said goodbye to somebody two days ago that has about

25
00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:39,480
Speaker 3: two weeks left. So obviously this is something and they

26
00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,280
Speaker 3: didn't necessarily have a processing dancer. Now. The person I

27
00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:46,240
Speaker 3: said goodbye to that the other day, ninety seven years old,

28
00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:50,760
Speaker 3: has had a great life, and they basically said, I'm

29
00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,080
Speaker 3: you know, we do a surgery. I'm gonna kill you

30
00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:57,600
Speaker 3: fast as they can surprise me. So so fortunate enough

31
00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,480
Speaker 3: that I probably will be able to really come of

32
00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,560
Speaker 3: the conversation I've had with him that other people film

33
00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:07,560
Speaker 3: are and people who are about to leave us in

34
00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,959
Speaker 3: a certain amount of way, who have nothing to give

35
00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:14,399
Speaker 3: but tell you what they believe, what the best things

36
00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,160
Speaker 3: they've done in their life, what they regret, what they

37
00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,080
Speaker 3: would only devise other people to do. And I know

38
00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,639
Speaker 3: this is a very touchy subject with so many people

39
00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:24,839
Speaker 3: out there. But my other friend who I lost three

40
00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:27,040
Speaker 3: weeks ago, left the five and a seven year old

41
00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,280
Speaker 3: and his wife, and very very sad for that. I

42
00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,320
Speaker 3: know that many us here we deal with this all

43
00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,760
Speaker 3: the time, So there's gonna be a lot of people listening,

44
00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,960
Speaker 3: and I hope just that one little nugget that maybe

45
00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,720
Speaker 3: you can share with them. The number of cross state

46
00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:48,800
Speaker 3: cancer diagnoses are increasing after decades of decline, right, so

47
00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:52,080
Speaker 3: there must be something going on or uh. And with

48
00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:56,640
Speaker 3: the advance of technology and information, this should not be

49
00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:02,440
Speaker 3: happening unless there's wrong information being given to people, which

50
00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,200
Speaker 3: you're here to prove that that's that you can give

51
00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,400
Speaker 3: them the proper information. Prostate cancer is the number two

52
00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:13,560
Speaker 3: most common cancer in men in America. More men are

53
00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:18,119
Speaker 3: diagnosed at later stages of the disease, when it's more

54
00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:22,840
Speaker 3: difficult to treat. We will get into I will ask you, doctor,

55
00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,840
Speaker 3: what is the chances that you catch something on time

56
00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,600
Speaker 3: that you can beat it? And American Cancer Society is

57
00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:35,760
Speaker 3: at the forefront of understanding and reversing those alarming trends.

58
00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,880
Speaker 3: And I am wearing my American Cancer Society shirt because

59
00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:45,320
Speaker 3: I face cancer in two twenty seventeen, but I believe

60
00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,800
Speaker 3: I had the close growing cancer with this thyrac cancer.

61
00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:53,680
Speaker 3: So I don't want to say that it was as

62
00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:57,400
Speaker 3: detrimental as a lot of people. But thank you for

63
00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:01,000
Speaker 3: being here. That's my opening, Please introduce yourself either one

64
00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:06,680
Speaker 3: Brian or doctor or doctor. Well, yeah, thank you, damon man.

65
00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,040
Speaker 2: I'm Brian Custer uh and the host of the Showtime

66
00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:15,400
Speaker 2: Championship Boxing obviously also on ESPN DO Sports Center.

67
00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,560
Speaker 3: H listen. Uh.

68
00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:24,920
Speaker 2: I was prostate cancer fiver. Diagnosed prostate cancer ten years

69
00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:31,480
Speaker 2: ago this month. In fact, I had surgery uh days ago,

70
00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:36,280
Speaker 2: ten years ago on that date, the eighteen And now

71
00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:37,760
Speaker 2: you know, I was one of the lucky ones man.

72
00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:40,440
Speaker 2: You know, they called it, they call it the silent

73
00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,640
Speaker 2: killer for a reason, because a lot of times you

74
00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,719
Speaker 2: don't know that you have prostate cancer until it's too late.

75
00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,440
Speaker 3: You know, for some for many guys, there aren't a

76
00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,520
Speaker 3: lot of outwardly signs of it.

77
00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:53,440
Speaker 2: And for me, I was in the best shape of

78
00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,599
Speaker 2: my life, felt great, and I was just lucky. And

79
00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,200
Speaker 2: as Doc would point out, is that I was one

80
00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,359
Speaker 2: of the guys who always went to the doctor. And

81
00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,159
Speaker 2: I still do go to the doctor every year to

82
00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,120
Speaker 2: get my physical and that's what really saved my life,

83
00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:11,200
Speaker 2: being diagnosed early on. Because you know, if you if

84
00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:15,400
Speaker 2: you get diagnosed and get treated early, it is a

85
00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,480
Speaker 2: disease that you it can be treated and you can

86
00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,080
Speaker 2: be sitting here like me talking to you. But had

87
00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,520
Speaker 2: I not gone to the doctor every year, and had

88
00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:28,919
Speaker 2: I not gotten diagnosed and gotten a PSA test, I

89
00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,559
Speaker 2: would have died and I wouldn't be sitting here talking

90
00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:36,599
Speaker 2: to you right now. I'm just happy to be here,

91
00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,720
Speaker 2: to be living, to be able to have a platform.

92
00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,520
Speaker 2: Try to get men number one to get checked every year.

93
00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:48,080
Speaker 2: Number two get a PSA test. It is viewing younger

94
00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:48,520
Speaker 2: and younger.

95
00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,000
Speaker 3: I was forty one, you know, and I'm the one

96
00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:56,599
Speaker 3: to say, uh, I'm sorry, Ray chef who lost husband

97
00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:02,520
Speaker 3: had six months ago. What is a PSK test? For

98
00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,960
Speaker 3: all of us tuning in like, well, what is that? Yeah?

99
00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,080
Speaker 3: And so you know, listen to PSA test.

100
00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,520
Speaker 2: It's fairly it's just a blood test and you go

101
00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,239
Speaker 2: get a physical, you get a PSA test.

102
00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,240
Speaker 3: They just take your blood just like any other thing.

103
00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,400
Speaker 2: And basically they look at the number, and you know,

104
00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,760
Speaker 2: I think general practitioner will tell you, hey, look, if

105
00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:27,400
Speaker 2: you're your number is under a four, okay, you're doing okay.

106
00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,599
Speaker 3: But if it's over a four, then you've.

107
00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:33,440
Speaker 2: Got problems, and uh, we need to explore it a

108
00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:37,680
Speaker 2: little bit further. I would say, if you are someone

109
00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:39,960
Speaker 2: who was a young man like myself at that time,

110
00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:41,520
Speaker 2: and you're in whole numbers.

111
00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,279
Speaker 3: That's something you and your doctor. What age are you

112
00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:45,720
Speaker 3: when do that the DIAGNOSM I was.

113
00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:50,000
Speaker 2: Forty and when I first I first had my When

114
00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,840
Speaker 2: I first had my UH, I had a PSA test

115
00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,479
Speaker 2: at the age of forty. At the age of forty,

116
00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:01,520
Speaker 2: my number was two point four. So I was thinking

117
00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,040
Speaker 2: I was okay and I would know the spectrum?

118
00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,200
Speaker 3: What is that two point four? What does that mean?

119
00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,320
Speaker 2: Well, again, as doctor will point out the general a

120
00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,400
Speaker 2: general practitioner will say, if it is if it is

121
00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,680
Speaker 2: A four or higher, you probably got something going on.

122
00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,920
Speaker 2: If it's under a four, okay, you know what. You're okay,

123
00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,320
Speaker 2: But it should be roight. There should be some alarms

124
00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,840
Speaker 2: going on because you're in whole numbers. Because generally, if

125
00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,280
Speaker 2: you have your PSA when you get the results back,

126
00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:34,880
Speaker 2: damn this should say a point zero whatever, a point whatever.

127
00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,320
Speaker 2: You should not generally be in whole numbers. If you're

128
00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,040
Speaker 2: if you get the results back when you're in all numbers,

129
00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,800
Speaker 2: that's something you need to be concerned about. But all

130
00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,720
Speaker 2: I heard from my doctor was if it's four or higher,

131
00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:50,160
Speaker 2: I got problem when I got a two point four

132
00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,160
Speaker 2: at the age of forty. I thought I was good

133
00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,000
Speaker 2: at forty one. I told him when I got my

134
00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,280
Speaker 2: physical ah, we don't need to do to PSA. I

135
00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,920
Speaker 2: did it last year because of the blood and he

136
00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,880
Speaker 2: gave me a digital rectro exam because as well. I

137
00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,360
Speaker 2: didn't want to go through that again. So that's why

138
00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,880
Speaker 2: I blew him off and the following it off.

139
00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,240
Speaker 3: I'm good, you know. I give you a chance to

140
00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,920
Speaker 3: introduce yourself, tell us a little about yourself, and then

141
00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:17,480
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I've got a couple of questions for both

142
00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,120
Speaker 3: of you, and I'm going to really talk to Layman's

143
00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,080
Speaker 3: turn because a lot of times we don't want to

144
00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,720
Speaker 3: this something that's too complicated and it's a big world

145
00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,040
Speaker 3: and we don't know what we're doing, and it can

146
00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,400
Speaker 3: get intimidating. We start getting sober our eye. So Dot

147
00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,680
Speaker 3: wanted to tell us a little bit about who you are.

148
00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,280
Speaker 3: And while we're having this conversation, Yeah, well it's good.

149
00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:37,960
Speaker 3: It's good to be with both of you. I'm doctor

150
00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,560
Speaker 3: Reef Maald and the Chief Patient Officer of the American

151
00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,240
Speaker 3: Cancer Society, and I appreciate this shout out to all

152
00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,760
Speaker 3: the work that we're doing and appreciate the fundraising that's happening.

153
00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,800
Speaker 3: We work every day with over two hundred health systems

154
00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:52,440
Speaker 3: fifty five million people across the United States to prevent

155
00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,400
Speaker 3: this thing that we call cancer, to help people get

156
00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,480
Speaker 3: through the barriers that they face and accessing care and

157
00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:00,880
Speaker 3: getting to the right screening and prevent and we're the

158
00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,280
Speaker 3: organization that puts out the guidelines to really tell people

159
00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:06,120
Speaker 3: kind of when is the right time to go. Just

160
00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,640
Speaker 3: as Brian said, look, it's really clear what we saw

161
00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:13,720
Speaker 3: in those statistics are decades of improvement that was really fantastic.

162
00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,839
Speaker 3: And then what happened, well, people got a little confused,

163
00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,640
Speaker 3: doctors stopped bringing it up, patients didn't think about as much,

164
00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,959
Speaker 3: COVID happened, All these things started to happen, and all

165
00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,920
Speaker 3: this decline started to level out. And then now actually

166
00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:29,960
Speaker 3: we see the number of project cancer cases going up

167
00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,400
Speaker 3: for the first time in really my lifetime, one and

168
00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,160
Speaker 3: two fifty percent, So one and two of all the

169
00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:38,800
Speaker 3: new prospect cancer cases are metastatic or advance, which means

170
00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:42,000
Speaker 3: now we're talking about chemotherapy, we're talking about radiation. So

171
00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,160
Speaker 3: where Brian's got this great story. Find it early, just

172
00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,960
Speaker 3: take care of it early. You know, not having to

173
00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,760
Speaker 3: have what people think about is being cancer care. Avoid

174
00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,199
Speaker 3: all that nonsense and trouble and get to take care

175
00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,120
Speaker 3: of early is exactly what we want to get out there.

176
00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,520
Speaker 3: And it's you know, there's there should be no reason

177
00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,600
Speaker 3: that more people are being diagnosed because we're finding it later.

178
00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:03,680
Speaker 3: We really it's one of those things where you go tomorrow,

179
00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:05,760
Speaker 3: pick up the phone, you call your doctor and say,

180
00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:07,880
Speaker 3: let's talk about this. What's the right way to screen

181
00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,040
Speaker 3: for me? And for many people, what they're trying to

182
00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:11,800
Speaker 3: figure out is like what is the right plan? And

183
00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,800
Speaker 3: what I would say is for the average person fifty

184
00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:18,200
Speaker 3: and older, sure, but for African American men forty five

185
00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,560
Speaker 3: and older, if you've got one immediate family member that's

186
00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:23,800
Speaker 3: forty five and older. If you've got two immediate family

187
00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,240
Speaker 3: members forty and older, and if you're not sure, ask

188
00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,880
Speaker 3: your doctor. And oftentimes the plan is different than what

189
00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:33,040
Speaker 3: the guidelines might say. So it's a really a personalized approach. Well,

190
00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:34,720
Speaker 3: let me ask you some of list, and let's talk

191
00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,840
Speaker 3: about the real list, the reality of it. So I

192
00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,960
Speaker 3: was in mind, buddy, so you know I need check.

193
00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,160
Speaker 3: I don't want to, I need check with prose cants.

194
00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,840
Speaker 3: What is a proper way. Well, the thing is, you

195
00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,280
Speaker 3: know a lot of people think, well, I'm gonna wait

196
00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,360
Speaker 3: till I feel different, and the reality is you don't

197
00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,280
Speaker 3: feel different. By the time you feel different, something's really

198
00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,679
Speaker 3: going on. Now. Some people might have a little trouble

199
00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:00,920
Speaker 3: with your nation, a little trouble with sexual dysfunction. But

200
00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:02,880
Speaker 3: for the vast majority of patients I take care of,

201
00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,640
Speaker 3: and I'm a metagone collegist, I'm a cancer position, they

202
00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,520
Speaker 3: don't feel anything at all. And that's the importance of

203
00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,319
Speaker 3: getting screened is when you feel well, not when you

204
00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,280
Speaker 3: don't feel well. Now, how do we do it? Two ways?

205
00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,679
Speaker 3: Typically for the person at average risk. One is a

206
00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,640
Speaker 3: very simple blood test called the PSA. PSA stands for

207
00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:23,079
Speaker 3: prostate specific anigen. It's a specific protein specific to the prostate. Now,

208
00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,240
Speaker 3: it can go up for other reasons, but when it

209
00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,439
Speaker 3: gets into what Brian was talking about, those numbers, those

210
00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,200
Speaker 3: solid numbers four, five, six, seven, you know that means

211
00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:31,600
Speaker 3: we got to get a biopsy. We got to know

212
00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:33,640
Speaker 3: what's going on real quick. The other way is digital

213
00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:35,800
Speaker 3: rectal exam. That means exactly what it sounds like. He

214
00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:37,199
Speaker 3: kind of has a doctor. You go in there and

215
00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,800
Speaker 3: you kind of feel a prostate should feel like this big,

216
00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,000
Speaker 3: should feel round and smooth, and if the doctor feels

217
00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:43,960
Speaker 3: something different than that, then that's a reason for us

218
00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,320
Speaker 3: to go in and and biopsy or do with different

219
00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,920
Speaker 3: What is so? What is coal? When they when they

220
00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,320
Speaker 3: you know, let's lead Joe about it in the flu Laune, right,

221
00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,000
Speaker 3: you know they got on a blog, you know obviously

222
00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,520
Speaker 3: going through the rect what and and is that? How

223
00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:58,680
Speaker 3: do you check with colon as well? I don't I

224
00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:02,800
Speaker 3: don't know. I'm curious. No, not typically, So when we're

225
00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,559
Speaker 3: when we're going to look for process cascer digital rectorle exam,

226
00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,000
Speaker 3: you do go into the colon, but the prostate actually

227
00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:09,760
Speaker 3: comes up against the colon just like this. So you're

228
00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:11,720
Speaker 3: kind of feeling through the colon to see if you

229
00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:15,280
Speaker 3: can feel around kind of smooth prostate and that's how

230
00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,320
Speaker 3: the pro states should feel in colon cancer. Your colon

231
00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,000
Speaker 3: is hundreds of feet long actually, right, So what we

232
00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,520
Speaker 3: want to do is either test for changes in the

233
00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,120
Speaker 3: DNA and the stool that's a home based test. Look

234
00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:27,880
Speaker 3: for blood in the stool, which is a home based

235
00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,319
Speaker 3: test too, or do a colonoscarby we're actually put a camera.

236
00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,600
Speaker 3: So the very different things both of them should start

237
00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,720
Speaker 3: around forty forty five. So that's the similarities. And both

238
00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,439
Speaker 3: are leading reasons for cancer and cancer death and men.

239
00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:41,160
Speaker 3: So you should be paying attention to both at the

240
00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:45,040
Speaker 3: same time. So you know when your blood is drawn

241
00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:49,880
Speaker 3: for a checkout because you know, I had a mom.

242
00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,480
Speaker 3: I was on TMZ the other day because you know,

243
00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:59,560
Speaker 3: they Kip Gardashian and win and got something for a

244
00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:04,240
Speaker 3: new law. When I it's twenty five hundred dollars. It's

245
00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,920
Speaker 3: not super by insurance with a whole other issue, but

246
00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:11,360
Speaker 3: radiation free and I gotta I gotta scan, full body scan, right,

247
00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,600
Speaker 3: Kim Grardashian goes on, she gets this full body scan, right,

248
00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:19,120
Speaker 3: she's standing, she now twenty five hours and the you

249
00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,600
Speaker 3: know a lot of people say she was being toned dead. Right,

250
00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:26,559
Speaker 3: this is twenty five hundred dollars, right, you know, how

251
00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:32,280
Speaker 3: dare you Kim? Right now? I think Kim gett. I

252
00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:36,040
Speaker 3: think Kim was doing what within within her knees right now.

253
00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:42,680
Speaker 3: I personally felt that, you know, they're the Kardashians. You

254
00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:47,520
Speaker 3: know you don't complain when they're on jets and ostrich

255
00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,840
Speaker 3: or Mets bags. I don't know anybody give any rappers

256
00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,320
Speaker 3: a problem about you know, I'm on my Beny outer

257
00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:56,160
Speaker 3: ace spades or you know, whatever the case is. But

258
00:13:56,240 --> 00:14:00,880
Speaker 3: she's standing outside here, and I happened to know she

259
00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:02,760
Speaker 3: wasn't getting paid by them, but I had taken it

260
00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:04,880
Speaker 3: for now as well, and people gave her a hard

261
00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:08,079
Speaker 3: time and they said, you know, how dare you? Well,

262
00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:10,280
Speaker 3: the way I looked at it is I stole a

263
00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:13,200
Speaker 3: hell helicopter drop of a tillions of dollars, and I

264
00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:16,560
Speaker 3: store a whole lot of people outside on on the

265
00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,160
Speaker 3: love rethorw line like louse, She and everything else not

266
00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,080
Speaker 3: standing well. You know, maybe they can't buy it back

267
00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:25,880
Speaker 3: for six months because they be to afford this. But

268
00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,400
Speaker 3: what I also was saying to people is she did

269
00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,680
Speaker 3: what was in her needs. And that you're saying, you know,

270
00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:34,160
Speaker 3: if you work at McDonald's and you have the the

271
00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,120
Speaker 3: access to getting an a, you will check up where

272
00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:40,800
Speaker 3: they pull your blood and they can check these things.

273
00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:45,080
Speaker 3: Why aren't people doing this? And are they doing this?

274
00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:48,360
Speaker 3: But they're not. They don't know to ask this specific

275
00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:51,200
Speaker 3: test because again you can take blood and check for

276
00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,240
Speaker 3: a million things. So what is the real reason? Because

277
00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,680
Speaker 3: one day, Doc, yeah, you know, you'll tell me about crossing.

278
00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:01,280
Speaker 3: Then there's falling, Uh, then this penny real, then there's

279
00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,360
Speaker 3: this this style. If somebody would to ask you that,

280
00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:08,360
Speaker 3: what would you say? Well, So the good news is

281
00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:12,200
Speaker 3: for most people, insurance payment isn't the barrier. Now are

282
00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:16,120
Speaker 3: there barriers like that, sure, but things like Obamacare and

283
00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:19,800
Speaker 3: Medicaid expansion in many states have really made that easier

284
00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:21,840
Speaker 3: for a lot of people. And I would encourage anyone

285
00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,640
Speaker 3: out there who's concerned, like house insurance going to cover

286
00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:26,680
Speaker 3: or not call the American Cancer Study. We have a

287
00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,040
Speaker 3: twenty four to seven hotline one eight head or two

288
00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:30,880
Speaker 3: two seven two three four five call us. We have

289
00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:34,280
Speaker 3: information specialists. We'll talk you through that process. So that's one. Two.

290
00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:36,440
Speaker 3: If you don't know where to go to get cancer

291
00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,360
Speaker 3: screening cancer dot org, which is our website front slash

292
00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,440
Speaker 3: get screened. We've got a map you can put in

293
00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:43,160
Speaker 3: your zip code. We'll show you exactly where you can

294
00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:44,680
Speaker 3: go to get screened. So that's how does it get

295
00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:45,960
Speaker 3: paid for? And where do I go? So that's two

296
00:15:46,040 --> 00:16:08,440
Speaker 3: questions right right. The third is which screening should I get?

297
00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:10,560
Speaker 3: You can find that on our website as well. And

298
00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:12,600
Speaker 3: then lastly to your question, like what actually gets in

299
00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:14,080
Speaker 3: the way I think life gets in the way we

300
00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:17,880
Speaker 3: get busy? There are misperceptions, right like, wait, you know

301
00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,080
Speaker 3: what's gonna happen? What is the digital rectal exam? Like,

302
00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,400
Speaker 3: I promise you I've done hundreds of them in my career.

303
00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,440
Speaker 3: They take less than five seconds to do, Brian, maybe

304
00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,960
Speaker 3: you can back me up here, right, Generally not that bad,

305
00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:30,880
Speaker 3: and most of the testing is really done by blood,

306
00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:32,760
Speaker 3: and I can tell you that a chemotherapy and radiation

307
00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,400
Speaker 3: is much worse than a five minute uncomfortableness from a

308
00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,200
Speaker 3: digital rectal exam. But I think here's the thing, right,

309
00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:40,480
Speaker 3: is that there's a lot of attention that got taken

310
00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,720
Speaker 3: away from routine health screenings when COVID came up, right,

311
00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,160
Speaker 3: because we told people stay away from the hospitals, you know,

312
00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,560
Speaker 3: you just focus on being home, being safe. And that

313
00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:49,040
Speaker 3: was great and it was the right thing to do.

314
00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:51,320
Speaker 3: But what we learned is that for many cancer screening

315
00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,440
Speaker 3: is the rate went down by like ninety five percent.

316
00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,640
Speaker 3: And what I'm definitely afraid of as an oncologist, is

317
00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:58,920
Speaker 3: that we're gonna start to see bumps, because what we

318
00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,000
Speaker 3: see is bumps in the number of diagnoses and deaths

319
00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,280
Speaker 3: kind of come up a little bit later that that'll

320
00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,240
Speaker 3: start to come up now. And we have an ability

321
00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,119
Speaker 3: right now if everyone goes and kind of catches up

322
00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,320
Speaker 3: with the screen, to keep that from bumping up again,

323
00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,560
Speaker 3: to come back down to where we want it to be. Now.

324
00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,239
Speaker 3: We estimated in general forty to fifty percent of all

325
00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:17,560
Speaker 3: cancers are screening. That means if you took all cancers

326
00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:19,520
Speaker 3: in the world, you took half and just took them

327
00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,320
Speaker 3: off the table, that would happen if everyone got screen

328
00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:27,159
Speaker 3: It's as plain as simple as that. What so is it?

329
00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,560
Speaker 3: Because we're in COVID and then a lot of telehealth

330
00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:31,440
Speaker 3: happened and they said, yeah, I do, I'm not gonna

331
00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,760
Speaker 3: go in, And maybe there's a lot of that because listen,

332
00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:38,399
Speaker 3: I I face the aspect of going there and knowing

333
00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,240
Speaker 3: that somebody was going to, you know, put on the

334
00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,600
Speaker 3: glove and it wasn't even just like an evil thing,

335
00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:49,159
Speaker 3: just like and it's gonna feel weird, right, but I

336
00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:54,600
Speaker 3: gotta tell you I did it. I the level of

337
00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,959
Speaker 3: relief I knew that I had, but you know, I

338
00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,960
Speaker 3: think it is you know, I'm I'm after and I'm

339
00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,399
Speaker 3: after to daddie. And there is this theory that we

340
00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,080
Speaker 3: will growing up that certain things they supposed to happen.

341
00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:07,720
Speaker 3: You don't do that. So we've got to have a

342
00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:11,720
Speaker 3: lot of women or younger generation here, well, their parents

343
00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:13,840
Speaker 3: grew up during a certain time and they're like that's

344
00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:17,720
Speaker 3: not cool. Yeah, you know, and it's a stigmatism. Sure

345
00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:19,639
Speaker 3: that is just like I'm not going to do it.

346
00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,880
Speaker 3: So how do we get the people here to convince

347
00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,439
Speaker 3: their loved ones that this is something they need to

348
00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:29,119
Speaker 3: do because what is the stat or fact dot on

349
00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,480
Speaker 3: how what is the percentage on if you catch it

350
00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:36,439
Speaker 3: at the time that you can beat it. Well, so

351
00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:38,359
Speaker 3: I'll say this as it relates to digital ructal exams,

352
00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,960
Speaker 3: and I totally get what you're saying. I would rather

353
00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,400
Speaker 3: someone get a p S A test and now digital

354
00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,720
Speaker 3: ructal exam that you're nothing at all because we'll get

355
00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:48,360
Speaker 3: most of the way there just from the blood test.

356
00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:51,119
Speaker 3: So I'm saying that for everyone who will listen, is

357
00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,760
Speaker 3: if if, if the digital ructalle exam is the reason

358
00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:55,560
Speaker 3: you're not gonna do it, just get the blood test. Fine,

359
00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:57,320
Speaker 3: I'll tell you that all day long. Just fine, do

360
00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,560
Speaker 3: it that way. I think that, you know, the other

361
00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:04,640
Speaker 3: issues really have to do with just just paying attention

362
00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:08,600
Speaker 3: to like these issues, because when you're in your forties, right,

363
00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,480
Speaker 3: like a lot of people feel still a little invincible.

364
00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,720
Speaker 3: They're like, oh, cancer is a thing for old people, right.

365
00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:14,880
Speaker 3: The thing though, is when it gets diagnosed in an early age,

366
00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:16,960
Speaker 3: it can tend to be more aggressive. And that's why

367
00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,480
Speaker 3: we want to find it. The curates. If we find

368
00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,280
Speaker 3: it super early, like stage one is like ninety eight

369
00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:26,080
Speaker 3: ninety nine percent, if we find it metastatic, means it's

370
00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:29,560
Speaker 3: had time to lead the prostate, because that's what metastasis means.

371
00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:34,440
Speaker 3: Metastasis means it started the prostate and had enough time time.

372
00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:36,560
Speaker 3: That's what it needed is to move out of the

373
00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:38,679
Speaker 3: prostate to other parts of the body. When it's in

374
00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,000
Speaker 3: other parts of the body, you can't cut it out anymore, right.

375
00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,080
Speaker 3: You have to get cubo. You have to get poisonous

376
00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:44,560
Speaker 3: things all over the body to get rid of what

377
00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,600
Speaker 3: did you say was the stack on? If you cash

378
00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:51,480
Speaker 3: it within before it beats the that area nine upper

379
00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,520
Speaker 3: nineties ninety eight, ninety nine percent. If you wait for

380
00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:58,120
Speaker 3: it to lead the prostate, that number gets down into

381
00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:02,040
Speaker 3: the twenties upper teens for five year survival. Right, so

382
00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,280
Speaker 3: there's kind of kind of like a get it done

383
00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,520
Speaker 3: and forget it versus a kind of live with it

384
00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,840
Speaker 3: the rest of your life and potentially, you know, sadly

385
00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,840
Speaker 3: die of it. And profit answer is one of those

386
00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:15,080
Speaker 3: things that's so common. It's so easy to get tested,

387
00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,879
Speaker 3: it's so preventable to get advanced that every time I

388
00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:20,920
Speaker 3: see someone with advanced disease, I'm like, man, what could

389
00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,080
Speaker 3: we have done differently or better? And that's why we

390
00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:24,920
Speaker 3: got to get the word out right, like, so everyone's

391
00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:28,399
Speaker 3: thinking about it. Hey Dave, yeah, put it to you

392
00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,480
Speaker 3: like this. You a brother, you know how we act.

393
00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,840
Speaker 3: And so first the first thing is we got to

394
00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:36,359
Speaker 3: get over the serial type.

395
00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,040
Speaker 2: And he feel all right, I don't need to go

396
00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,640
Speaker 2: to the doctor just because we as men like, man,

397
00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:42,400
Speaker 2: I'm good, I don't.

398
00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,680
Speaker 3: That's number one. We as brothers do have this kind

399
00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,280
Speaker 3: of stereo type like oh.

400
00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:56,840
Speaker 2: His fingery, listen, had he not done me again, I

401
00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,760
Speaker 2: wouldn't be here because this doctor pointed out with did

402
00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:01,520
Speaker 2: the digital rectro exam for me?

403
00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:05,720
Speaker 3: I feel a little bump on your prostct. It could

404
00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,280
Speaker 3: be a calcium to polity, it could be something else.

405
00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,480
Speaker 3: But the only way we're gonna know is if.

406
00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,159
Speaker 2: We do this and then maybe do a biops and

407
00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:18,360
Speaker 2: so listen to man, when I got diagnosed, doctor even

408
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:19,720
Speaker 2: told me, and I told him, I said, man, I

409
00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:23,560
Speaker 2: felt great. What would have happened, Uh, what would have

410
00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,000
Speaker 2: happened if I just you know, kept on to we're

411
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:26,760
Speaker 2: living without life?

412
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:28,399
Speaker 3: He said, Man, it would have been dead within me.

413
00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,840
Speaker 3: That's how it grew within a year.

414
00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:36,199
Speaker 2: That's how aggressive my my diagnosis was.

415
00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,720
Speaker 3: When I had gotten diagnosed at the second time.

416
00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,680
Speaker 2: It went from originally it was two point four when

417
00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 2: I was forty, I skipped going to the doctor at

418
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,520
Speaker 2: forty one, get the PSA test, had it done again

419
00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,680
Speaker 2: at forty two it was a five point two and.

420
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:55,520
Speaker 3: A move like that. And that's that's that's how fast

421
00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,080
Speaker 3: my mind I grew up with it. I grew up

422
00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,600
Speaker 3: and I'm not so young. Brothers up and a lot

423
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 3: of people here may still be in that area I

424
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,200
Speaker 3: grew up, you know, or in an area I grew

425
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 3: up around a lot of hard people, you know. I mean,

426
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 3: my my best buddy. They made the movie DMX. So

427
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 3: they made the movie on belly about the d MX.

428
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 3: That was my best friend. Wow. And I remember one

429
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,440
Speaker 3: of my buddies saying, Yo, man, you know I'm a man.

430
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,639
Speaker 3: You know I ain't getting no fig that stuck up

431
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,479
Speaker 3: my my you know, my ass and that stuff. And

432
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 3: then I said, okay, but you said, if anybody ever

433
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,919
Speaker 3: said so, it's your family, you'll take a bullet for them,

434
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 3: you know, and make sure you protect them. But you

435
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 3: want to get a finger stuck up your ass to

436
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,680
Speaker 3: be around for your kids and your wife and your mother,

437
00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,200
Speaker 3: just a sick fingers up. Yeah, you probably You probably

438
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,359
Speaker 3: do that by mistake sometimes and you're wrapping your ass

439
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 3: to are the toilet papers. You you ready to take

440
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,679
Speaker 3: a bullet, you ready to go kill self about it,

441
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 3: but you don't want to take the thing up your

442
00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,200
Speaker 3: just to name sure that you and by the way,

443
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 3: you suck away more too, like you said, doctor came

444
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 3: on all that other stuff, you know, you know our

445
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:10,159
Speaker 3: buddy chuck uh Chuck twenty three. I went to his

446
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:14,359
Speaker 3: barbershop for the dick, you know, his flyers around now.

447
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,399
Speaker 3: I noticed one thing, you know, the barbershops have always

448
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:20,119
Speaker 3: been on a social clu Ryan and Doc Right and

449
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 3: I saw this and he said it on college, just

450
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 3: was gonna come and talk about pros say and colon cancer,

451
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 3: you know, and he said, and he said, you did.

452
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 3: I'm off ruler here. I got three hundred men signed

453
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 3: up because what happened was now it was different. It

454
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 3: was in the barbershop. But you know how the barbershop

455
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,159
Speaker 3: called Ryan right, do right. It's like if you see that,

456
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 3: you know, if we'll all walking by people always hittingus

457
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,399
Speaker 3: something by the way, you when we get the cancer,

458
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 3: everybody's my head, taste this and come in. Well let

459
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 3: us see you like leave me, leave me the hell

460
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 3: a law. But in a barbershop, we know what. You know,

461
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 3: what I realized was happening. You know, we'd be in

462
00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 3: the barber shop and like yo, yo ton man. You

463
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 3: know South today they're gonna be talking us about calling

464
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 3: or pro saying, I ain't coming. Is that right? Is

465
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,439
Speaker 3: that right? You asked? You have we sweating going up

466
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,439
Speaker 3: the elevator and you don't want to play, you know,

467
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,400
Speaker 3: and you know, and so they start they start hounding you, right,

468
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,719
Speaker 3: and then even after that, after everybody learns from it,

469
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 3: then they hand you for for another year. Right. So

470
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,400
Speaker 3: sometimes in the community, you know, people they can't do much.

471
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 3: And listen, if we just saved there's a one hundredwelve people.

472
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:28,879
Speaker 3: Why I don't know, I'm even watch after wall. We

473
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 3: just saved one person, like there's one person. We did

474
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 3: our job. And a lot of people think that they

475
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 3: can't address these matters because they're in the hood, or

476
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:42,440
Speaker 3: they don't have money. They have so much inventions or

477
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 3: in bagging the sun Hu mother sisters wife didn't tag

478
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 3: their ship out of your people to say you got it, Oh,

479
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 3: you gotta go. A lot of people don't think these

480
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:58,199
Speaker 3: law efforts save lives, you know, So what would be

481
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,400
Speaker 3: the next step because okay, what if somebody he does

482
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:06,159
Speaker 3: not have insurance right now and they're like sales life statement.

483
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 3: But you know what, I live in a real world.

484
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 3: I don't have enough money, I don't have your shurans.

485
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 3: Is there any because I know you have some resources

486
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 3: doctors there any Way, what can people do who will

487
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:19,919
Speaker 3: like I ain't got I don't got enough. Who what

488
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 3: have be able to do? Yeah? Well, you know, so

489
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,879
Speaker 3: it's you know, naturally speaking of people out of medicare,

490
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,120
Speaker 3: so there are just sixty five. This is covered if

491
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 3: they don't they have Medicaid. It generally is except for

492
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 3: in a few places. But and then there's county resources,

493
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,439
Speaker 3: there's state local resources. Here. Here's what I'd say. If

494
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 3: you don't know where to go quality American cancersity, that's simple,

495
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 3: talk to your doctor. Because normally, I find the issue

496
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 3: is not in ability to pay. Normally the issue is

497
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 3: no one brought it up or we didn't have a

498
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 3: conversation about it. And that could because look, when you

499
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 3: go to a doctor or something, it's fifteen minutes. You

500
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 3: got a lot of stuff to talk about. Sometimes it

501
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 3: get brought up some of the guidelines, you know, just

502
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 3: you know, some of it really involves having a convert station.

503
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 3: And sometimes doctors don't bring it up. And I know that.

504
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 3: I mean I'm one of them, right Like people respect

505
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,959
Speaker 3: doctors a lot, and I love that. That's great. If

506
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 3: your doctor don't bring it up, you need to bring

507
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 3: it up, plan and bring it up and say should

508
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 3: I be getting my prostate checked and have a conversation

509
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,120
Speaker 3: about it. And sometimes it's like, oh, shoot, I didn't

510
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 3: think about that. Yeah, you're read, you know, but bus

511
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 3: and then you know what the last thing is. We're

512
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 3: coming up on September, but we're also coming up on Thanksgiving.

513
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 3: It's a good time to talk to your family because

514
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 3: sometimes people are like, you know, granddad had cancer. I

515
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 3: don't know what it was, you know, blah blah blah.

516
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 3: So oftentimes there's a story and people don't like talk

517
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 3: about it in the family. But it's super important, right

518
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 3: you need to know what it was and what agent

519
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 3: was diagnosed. Those are the two things you got to

520
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 3: know because based on that, I can tell you what

521
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 3: your risk is and whether your psation started forty forty

522
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,919
Speaker 3: five earlier or later. That's really really important.

523
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,159
Speaker 2: Indeed, one of the great things is now there's so

524
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 2: much emphasis, thank goodness cross Day cancer. Yeah, you can

525
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 2: call the American Society and find out where you can

526
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,199
Speaker 2: get tested. But now you've got black churches doing a

527
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 2: lot of the rosy can't I mean they're doing it

528
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 2: for free. We got like, I'm a Kapita cap Alpha

529
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 2: said no, does it all the time, and you got

530
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 2: you got all of these fraternities now doing that because

531
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 2: they see that the numbers are on the rise, they

532
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 2: need to be villaging about this and they're giving out

533
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 2: all kind of doing testing all the time. So whether

534
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 2: it's your local church, fraternity organizations, the American Cancer Society,

535
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,360
Speaker 2: you can get the test and get it for free.

536
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 3: I gotta tell you, you know, I obviously have the great resources.

537
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 1: You know.

538
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,120
Speaker 3: He never suggested to check me for that. And now

539
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 3: maybe that was because I don't know, and he never

540
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 3: really talked about it. And and then I realized that

541
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 3: I wasn't getting a thorough check up from a doctor.

542
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,199
Speaker 3: And I don't know why, but I think that, like

543
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 3: you said, you know, we have a lot of respect

544
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 3: for doctors, and maybe we think they know it all

545
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 3: and they can think about everything. But sometimes, you know,

546
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 3: I don't know, I know he was too busy or

547
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 3: he wasn't a thorough I went at the same doctor

548
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 3: twenty years and he never checked me or never told

549
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 3: you say, hey, I'm running your blood And I don't know,

550
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 3: we never said hey, you know, would last say a

551
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 3: process checked? Are you ready for this? I got another

552
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 3: bot and it was immediate. It was like, this is

553
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 3: this is what we do, you know what I mean? Also,

554
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 3: I think that you know, when I was growing up,

555
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 3: because it wasn't it wasn't social media. We didn't have

556
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 3: a lot of amfamation out there. You know. I think

557
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 3: that we thought that cancer is something that you just

558
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:26,919
Speaker 3: stick your head in the sand and hope that the

559
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 3: bus doesn't hit you. Sure you know, right, because you

560
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 3: know it happened in your family. Now, hey, you know,

561
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 3: I think you had to lead to the league. I

562
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 3: changed a lot of this conversation. I say, I know where,

563
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 3: I know that there's a high history and probability of

564
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 3: this in my family. You know, of course, so that

565
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 3: I needed all cancers please, you know its breast cancer

566
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 3: for women's sharks watching. But I think that this is critical.

567
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 3: What for the person to say to go in and say,

568
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 3: you have to say when should we start checking for this?

569
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 2: Forty This is a doctor's gonna get it. Listen, I

570
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 2: have cancer in my family. Uncles, all of those had it.

571
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 2: So for me, forty had to be baseline because I

572
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 2: it's answer that goes into our family. I think generally

573
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 2: they would say, if you're a white male, fifty of

574
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 2: ben at forty five, people of color at forty five.

575
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 2: But if you got if your white, black, whatever, and

576
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 2: you have a history of cancer, I think you at

577
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 2: forty you should be asking your doctor about a PSA test,

578
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 2: especially if let's say your uncle your father has had

579
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 2: it without questioning. Generally those are the baselines for you.

580
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 2: So you know, my natural born father died at a

581
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 2: very young age, so I procestiny cancer with him on

582
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 2: my radar because my other uncles had you know, bone

583
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 2: cancer and lung cancer. So I was like, eh, you know,

584
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 2: I'm not thinking I'm gonna have any of those. But

585
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 2: thank god that at forty I went do you got checked?

586
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 2: And I got that p s A test, because again,

587
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 2: had I not, I wouldn't be sitting here talking to

588
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 2: you right now.

589
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 3: Doctor may ask you something. Out many people, I mean,

590
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 3: I'm just curious of the reaction when they find they

591
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 3: have it, as you having you know, personal contact. Do

592
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 3: they go, I never thought this should happen, or you know,

593
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 3: I don't I didn't know about it. Is it ignorance list,

594
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 3: is it I was afraid? Is I just didn't have

595
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 3: enough information? Was it like I'll be tough? Or you

596
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 3: know how many people regret it because they or they

597
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 3: just you know, this is not so they didn't know.

598
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 3: What's the most common response when you find that you

599
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 3: talk to somebody and they said, damn, well you can't

600
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 3: go too late now, all right, you got to say, hey,

601
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 3: but what do you find them? So you see the

602
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 3: loved ones sawing jo like I told you or you

603
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 3: should have or or why didn't we wait till your

604
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 3: damn they were falling out to come in, Like what's

605
00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 3: the what's the what's the common to Jesus moment? Have

606
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 3: a lot of time people and they have to regret

607
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 3: unfortunately that they may they may have waited a little

608
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 3: bit too long. Yeah, well we get it early, which

609
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 3: is the majority of the time. You know. What people

610
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 3: say is but I felt fine. But I was feeling

611
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 3: fine and it felt okay. And that's one of those

612
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 3: things where like oh man, you got cancer, but you

613
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 3: look great and you're like, yeah, that's the thing, of course,

614
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 3: you know, like that's but that's the story we want

615
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 3: is we want people to say, but I was feeling fine,

616
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 3: I got screened, I got this thing. Okay, we're gonna

617
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 3: get it taken care of and hopefully never have to

618
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 3: think about it again, because ninety nine percent is a

619
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 3: powerful number to never have to think about it again.

620
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 3: I think for the people who find it later, there

621
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 3: is naturally a bit of guilt and regret and things

622
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 3: like that. We work through that certainly. But you know,

623
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 3: here's the thing. We were making so much progress for

624
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 3: decades and decades and decades, like let me let me

625
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 3: tell you the good news here. The good news is

626
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 3: cancer mortality in the last thirty years has gone down

627
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 3: by twenty five percent. I mean that is remarkable because

628
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 3: if I started, really I feel like the way it

629
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 3: is today with all these you know, process ful and

630
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 3: all this other stuff like you know, I guess woods

631
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 3: and connected, I feel like I hear's somebody dropping, you know,

632
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 3: on coarsely passing every other day. You're saying that these

633
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 3: numbers have went down. So overall, cancer mortality has gone down,

634
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 3: which is really really great. And when we find it,

635
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 3: we tend to find it earlier and we get it out.

636
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 3: Screeny has gotten better, people are smoking less, and we're

637
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 3: starting to understand like the connections between weight and nutrition

638
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 3: and cancer. And so as we double click on that,

639
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 3: we're gonna we're gonna even have more solid guidelines to

640
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 3: put out there. But in the meantime, I think what

641
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 3: we have to do is recognize is that cancer oftentimes

642
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 3: feels like this, this kind of invisible thing that's there.

643
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 3: I'll just put my hand in the sand and now

644
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 3: think about it and kind of roll the dice on

645
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 3: my life. And I'm what I'm saying here, what Brian's

646
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 3: saying here too, is you don't need to do that, right.

647
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 3: You're talking about literally a five minute exam that will

648
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 3: change your life. Right, if you got kids, it's gonna

649
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 3: make sure they have a father and an uncle and

650
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 3: you know, so it's really five minutes. But here's the thing.

651
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 3: You have to like make an appointment, right, you have

652
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 3: to like take it, take a day or take an hour,

653
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 3: go out there and get it done. And then just

654
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 3: make it happen every year like all the other things

655
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 3: you did take care of yourself. Just make this a

656
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 3: happen to go get it done? All right? Well, Brian,

657
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 3: you know I'll leave it up to you. Brian, want

658
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 3: give us some one of your departing words, and I'll

659
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,479
Speaker 3: leave with a couple of words that I'm just lying here.

660
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 3: What would you suggest? And why did you vote public

661
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 3: your battle with it? And I'm just understand, Yeah, why

662
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:53,959
Speaker 3: do you go why do you go public about this?

663
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 2: I'll be real with you because when I first got diagnosed.

664
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 2: Doctor told me that, you know, I was gonna have surgery,

665
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 2: and he said, you gotta have surgery, like right now.

666
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 2: I was embarrassed because I was forty two and all

667
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 2: I knew at that time teen years ago was isn't

668
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 2: like some old fo get forty two and have this

669
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 2: disease and you're talking about talking about maybe sexual disfruncted,

670
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 2: you're talking about I was like being sterile.

671
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 3: There's no way I want people to know that I

672
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 3: have this. No, I'm trying to keep this. I'm trying

673
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 3: to another procession that if you have a candy ain't

674
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 3: gonna work exactly.

675
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,240
Speaker 2: I mean, people, that's that's the that's the thought process

676
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,479
Speaker 2: that all man. You know, listen, I don't care how

677
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,399
Speaker 2: rich powerful you are. For a lot of men, they

678
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 2: they look at themselves and evaluate themselves by what's between

679
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 2: their legs, and they feel that all man, if I

680
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 2: got some stuff that I may have confidence or I

681
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 2: may have this, I'm not you know, I'm not a

682
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,879
Speaker 2: man in I'm down half the guy that I used

683
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 2: to be.

684
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 3: But my thing is you're alive. You're alive.

685
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 2: So because maybe you have to deal with maybe some

686
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 2: incontinence or I have to take cialis who cares?

687
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 3: You're alive? My brother.

688
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,800
Speaker 2: But getting back to your your question, why I came public,

689
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 2: I will trying to keep it quiet.

690
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 3: And I remember the doctor who had surgery for me said, listen,

691
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 3: I am going to save your life. I needed you

692
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 3: to use your platform to get out there.

693
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 2: There's too many men of color coming down with this disease,

694
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 2: and I need you to get out there and say, hey,

695
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 2: look I have it, and you know what.

696
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 3: I'm getting treated. I'm going to be okay. You can too.

697
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:43,919
Speaker 3: You just need to get checked every year.

698
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 2: And I looked at him like he was crazy, but

699
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,399
Speaker 2: then he said, if I can do this for you,

700
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 2: why don't you do that for others? And you know,

701
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 2: but I went on that night, cried about it, prayed

702
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 2: about it.

703
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 3: And I was like, man, this dude is right. He's right.

704
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 2: You know what, I can probably help save somebody's life.

705
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 2: And I just felt like that. That next day, when

706
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 2: I was gonna have surgery, I let everybody know on

707
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 2: social media.

708
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 3: I've been diagnosed with prostate cancer. I'm about to have surgery.

709
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 2: But had I not been gotten an annual check and

710
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,760
Speaker 2: not being diagnosed, I wouldn't be talking to you right now,

711
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 2: please man, get checked. And I just felt like it

712
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 2: was it was almost like duty to do that. And

713
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 2: you know this, sometimes damn it. You sit there and

714
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 2: you have that widening moment, but then you have to

715
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 2: undunderstand it. Sometimes God puts you through this because he

716
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 2: feels like you are the vessel that can help other

717
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 2: people and that's why you're going through that. And I

718
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 2: felt like, once I had an understanding of this, he

719
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 2: maybe put me on this earth because he said you

720
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 2: can handle it and you can help others. And I

721
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 2: felt like, Okay, this is part of my mission here

722
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:53,720
Speaker 2: and why I'm still living.

723
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 3: I gotta tell you mine is the saying a very

724
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 3: similar type of story. I didn't say that to me

725
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 3: a really amazing, amazing doctor, doctor patelou nyu right now.

726
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 3: But the story is that my one hour surgery to

727
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 3: get a nods overbold and my dirogard became four and

728
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 3: a half hours and then took out this mass the

729
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 3: size of a golf ball and it was hard, and

730
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 3: you know, doc, I don't know why you guys do this,

731
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 3: but I said, hey, doctors, I cancer. Now he takes

732
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 3: out three hundred thyroids a year. You've been doing it

733
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 3: for fifteen years. I don't know why you guys try

734
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 3: to bullshit us. I was like, dude, like I don't know.

735
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 3: I got to say away to get tested. I was like,

736
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 3: and then here you go. You know you gotta stay

737
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 3: you you you see three one hundred of me of

738
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 3: the year, and you gotta send that away to get tested. Okay,

739
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 3: let's play the game. So I don't home when I

740
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 3: say to myself either it is so blessed. I lived

741
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 3: the life of ten families, ten lives of ten people.

742
00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 3: I was like, my two oldest girls, beautiful people they are,

743
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 3: They're great, contributed to society. My little girl at the

744
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 3: time was two out of She ain't even gonna know

745
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 3: that I existed. My mother. I never want to see mine.

746
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 3: I never want to bury my mother. And by the way,

747
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 3: you know, my wife is smoking hot chi finding on

748
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 3: the husband in two weeks. So I was like, I'm

749
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 3: out of here. Let it close up these business does

750
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 3: let me drap myself to death. And then I stopped

751
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 3: has said that myself. You know, God blessed me for

752
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 3: a reason. You're being a selfish ass bastard right now.

753
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 3: Because you're two older girls are beautiful young ladies, and

754
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 3: you should want to see their grandkids. But we were taught,

755
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 3: many of us to color, not only African Americans, and

756
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 3: we're talking about, of course, people who are not out

757
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 3: checked you please. But we were hoping that we would

758
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 3: just live past twenty one and not being in jail

759
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 3: or dead. That's we were. We were desaulted with that,

760
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 3: so we never even cared about the long game. Then

761
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 3: I'll like, my littlest girl, well, who's gonna protect her

762
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 3: in this world? If I'm here, my mother actually, no

763
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 3: mother or no parents ever bury this son. And you

764
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 3: know what I do, get to hang out with a

765
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 3: smoking out. How dare I? How dare I be selfish

766
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 3: like that? Uh? And it was that moment that I

767
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 3: decided that I was gonna be public about it. But

768
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 3: it's funny. Two weeks lay it up the doctor, a

769
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 3: doctor something. You're like, oh, yeah, I gotta tell your results.

770
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 3: I'm like results about what it's like? Yo? You know,

771
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 3: we gotta stay she chance. So I was like, I

772
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 3: was so mentally like, I'm gonna beat this thing. I

773
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 3: didn't even remember. I didn't even remember I was waiting

774
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,479
Speaker 3: for a cool out. You know, the human, the human,

775
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 3: the mind is so it's so powerful if you either

776
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 3: say you're superman or put your head in the stand,

777
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 3: because if it's gonna happen, it's gonna happen. Don't worry

778
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 3: about it, or it's gonna say. I ain't gonna let it.

779
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 3: She get to me, and I'm gonna be an example

780
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 3: of it. So I hope that the people would would

781
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 3: talking to right now, gonna be the example and push

782
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,399
Speaker 3: those people and educate people. And man, I can't thank

783
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 3: you guy enough. Ryan, thank you so much for being

784
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 3: public about it dot. I mean, you know ran you know, listen, Bryan,

785
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 3: you can be sportscasting and stuff. Yeah, make sure, yes

786
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 3: say it. You're doing the rial. That's that's the start

787
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 3: ship right there. You are investing in people and to

788
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 3: the American Cancer Society. I want everybody to visit you know,

789
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 3: cancer dot org learn more about their impact, early detection

790
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 3: and ways to get screamed early. What I've gotten from

791
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 3: this conversation is with all the forms of coverage out there,

792
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 3: even the lowest form you can, you can you can

793
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 3: get this uh checked out. You can deal it with

794
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:52,399
Speaker 3: blood right if it's caught early. You know you can

795
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:58,439
Speaker 3: beat it. It just sounded so much more that I

796
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 3: didn't even know that. I thought the not with much

797
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 3: row after like sixty percent with up man. You know,

798
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 3: thank you so much of this stuff, and thank you

799
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 3: to against side and Brian, we need minor words, guys,

800
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 3: do it? Do?

801
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 2: Uh?

802
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 3: You know what to do? Put a put an appointment

803
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 3: on your phone right now, Yeah, to call, call your

804
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 3: doctor to get in and get screened. There is no

805
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,399
Speaker 3: reason to wait, there's no excuse. You call American's say

806
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:29,399
Speaker 3: if we can help you with something, get her done, Brian. Yeah,

807
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 3: And you know that's from the delastination. The devia sneaks

808
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 3: in between this moment when we hop up here and

809
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 3: you are gonna call somebody to get it done right.

810
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,240
Speaker 3: If you don't do it right now, it just becomes

811
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 3: one of the things. I'll get to it. I'll get

812
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 3: to it. I'll get to it. The funny thing is

813
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 3: you go on vacationy, You're like, I'm gonna get a

814
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 3: peed up the lot with adult of one pot on

815
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 3: the school. As I land, you almost never forget that.

816
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 3: You never forget that you're gonna get that done.

817
00:41:55,600 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 2: Get this done, absolutely and I just appreciate that you

818
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 2: man for doing this, uh, for helping us getting the

819
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 2: word out there.

820
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:03,959
Speaker 3: Doctor.

821
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 2: You know, I appreciate you. I appreciate all of y'all

822
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 2: who have this type of work. Man, and you have

823
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 2: these things that are blessed are really helping and treating people,

824
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 2: obviously American Cancer Society, because they're not only trying to

825
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 2: eradicate this disease, but they're doing all that they can

826
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 2: and help people who have been afflicted with cancer. Any

827
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 2: any amount, I mean, whether it's five dollars, two dollars, whatever,

828
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 2: you can help go the long long way to that

829
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:27,479
Speaker 2: testing that you talked about.

830
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 3: Damon for those who don't have the need to get

831
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 3: that test made.

832
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 2: This brothers, as men go, I'm telling you, had I

833
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 2: not done it, I would.

834
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:43,800
Speaker 3: Not be here right now. Just man up and go.

835
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 3: And ladies, we're talking about you too. From pulling off

836
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 3: from capture everything everything. We're not only talking about that,

837
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 3: we're talking about this at the moment. Please, I mean

838
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 3: you know uh uh you know speed killers and in

839
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 3: this sense, seed kills cancer. You get it done, you

840
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 3: will kill cancer. You'll be here to love those little

841
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 3: beautiful babies and family of yours and make change and

842
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 3: stuff like that. So thank you guys for being here.

843
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,919
Speaker 3: I appreciate everybody. Thank you for cast Society, and thank

844
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 3: you all that a lot of people here have lost people,

845
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 3: and my art does go out to all of you

846
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 3: because it's not even And you know what, don't let

847
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 3: those people the loss of those people going, baby, they

848
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 3: probably suffer, so you won't have to, won't. That Moment

849
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 3: with Damon John is a production of the Black Effect

850
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 3: Podcast Network. For more podcasts from the Black Effect Podcast Network,

851
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 3: visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen

852
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 3: to your favorite show, and don't forget to subscribe to

853
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 3: and rate the show. And of course you can all

854
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 3: connect with me on any of my social media platforms.

855
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 3: At the Shark, Damon spelled like Raymond, but what a

856
00:43:59,440 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 3: d