WEBVTT - Trump Fights For The Wall

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<v Speaker 1>You are entering the freedom hunt. Well, it's almost the

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<v Speaker 1>eleventh hour for funding the government, and it looks like

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<v Speaker 1>the shutdown may happen. President Trump has rallied Republicans are

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<v Speaker 1>now going on offense. Are we going to get the wall?

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<v Speaker 1>Are we willing to fight for that? And more? Coming

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<v Speaker 1>up on The buck Sexton Show. This is the Buck

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<v Speaker 1>Sexton Show, where the mission or mission is to decode

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<v Speaker 1>what really matters with actionable intelligence. Make no mistake American,

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<v Speaker 1>You're a great American Again The buck Sexton Show begins.

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<v Speaker 1>SETIA analysts. Remember then on June sixteenth, when I announced

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<v Speaker 1>that I was running for president, and I came down

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<v Speaker 1>the escalator and I brought up for the first time

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<v Speaker 1>illegal immigration, and I said, we got to build a wall.

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<v Speaker 1>And everybody said, Oh, that's crazy, that's crazy. We will

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<v Speaker 1>build a wall, We will build a wall. Oh, we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna build a wall. All right. The wall is peanuts.

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<v Speaker 1>It's peanuts compared to what we're talking about. Who's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>pay for the wall? Mexico they'll pay it. We won't

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<v Speaker 1>pay for the wall. And I want you to tell

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<v Speaker 1>that to mister Trump. I said, yes, tell him that

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<v Speaker 1>the wall just got ten feet taller. Okay, tell him,

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<v Speaker 1>tell him. It's a vital tool. It's an important tool.

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<v Speaker 1>It's maybe the most important tool that they can think of.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna build the wall. We have no choice. Build

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<v Speaker 1>that wall, build that wall, build that wall, build that wall,

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<v Speaker 1>build that wall, build that wall, build that wall, build

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<v Speaker 1>that wall. Welcome to the Buck Sexton Show. I just

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<v Speaker 1>wanted us all to soak that all in for a

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<v Speaker 1>moment here. Was there any ambiguity, was there any hesitation,

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<v Speaker 1>any mealy mouth talking out of both sides of the mouth?

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<v Speaker 1>Stuff from President Trump about the wall. No, build the

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<v Speaker 1>wall at the rallies, build the wall. The promise that

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<v Speaker 1>he made, the promise that elevated him ahead of a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of other possible Republican contenders. It was immigration, not

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<v Speaker 1>really trade, not really anything else, immigration that first catapulted

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<v Speaker 1>Trump to the very top of the list of Republican candidates.

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<v Speaker 1>It was immigration, willingness to discuss it honestly and openly

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<v Speaker 1>without fear of political correctness and the backlash from It

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<v Speaker 1>was immigration that brought so many people to come out

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<v Speaker 1>and vote for Trump, despite the fact that he had

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<v Speaker 1>no political background. That he has not by any means

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<v Speaker 1>a policy wonk that he can be a bit. Course

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<v Speaker 1>he is rough on the rough around the edges, and

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<v Speaker 1>so on and so forth. The President made a promise,

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<v Speaker 1>a promise that could not have been more clear, that

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<v Speaker 1>he repeated more than probably any other line at his rallies,

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<v Speaker 1>and darn it, this president today realize, whether he knew

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<v Speaker 1>all long or not, I don't know, realize that he

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<v Speaker 1>better keep that promise. And as of right now as

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<v Speaker 1>I go on air, it looks like he will. Looks

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<v Speaker 1>like he's going to try to do so. President spoke

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<v Speaker 1>today about this and went on the record once again

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<v Speaker 1>that they're better be funding for a border wall or else.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not This continuing resolution to fund the government

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<v Speaker 1>is not going to happen, and yes there will be

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<v Speaker 1>a shutdown a play eighteen. I've made my position very clear.

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<v Speaker 1>Any measure that funds the government must include border security.

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<v Speaker 1>Has to not for political purposes, but for a country,

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<v Speaker 1>for the safety of our community. This is not merely

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<v Speaker 1>my campaign promise. This is the promise every lawmaker man.

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<v Speaker 1>It is the solemn promise to protect and defend the

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<v Speaker 1>United States of America, and it is our sacred obligation.

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<v Speaker 1>We have no choice. We have no choice, the President says.

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<v Speaker 1>You see, I take the President at his word. I

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<v Speaker 1>believe that this is a man who understands that it's

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<v Speaker 1>what you say and whether you follow through on that

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<v Speaker 1>or not on the issues that matter, that determines who

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<v Speaker 1>you are as a politician, who you are as a man. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he inflates things sometime. Sure, he's got quite an ego.

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<v Speaker 1>All that stuff is true, You're not You're not unaware

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<v Speaker 1>of that. Neither am I would I say the things

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<v Speaker 1>that Trump says? Would I go about my personal life

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<v Speaker 1>for the way Trump has? No? But this is about

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<v Speaker 1>execution for the commander in chief, executing on the vision,

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<v Speaker 1>executing on the agenda, the promises that he made, and

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<v Speaker 1>a wall has to be a part of that. There's

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<v Speaker 1>no way around it. And that's why I think does

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<v Speaker 1>the willingness to fight here is going to speak volumes

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<v Speaker 1>and make no mistake, twenty twenty hangs in the balance

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<v Speaker 1>right now. What happens over the next few days will

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<v Speaker 1>be something that we talk about for many months and

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<v Speaker 1>even years to come. This is the moment. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>going to get better when Nancy Pelosi Speaker the House.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not going to get better. As Republicans have to

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<v Speaker 1>face another election cycle. Now is the time have the debate,

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<v Speaker 1>have the argument for the American people. And you know

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<v Speaker 1>what A big part of that debate is walls work.

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<v Speaker 1>I heard, you know earlier today. I keep hearing this

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<v Speaker 1>along the walls don't work. And I want to say,

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<v Speaker 1>how do they come to that conclusion? President Trump says,

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<v Speaker 1>the walls workplace seventeen. I am asking Congress to defend

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<v Speaker 1>the border of our nation for tiny fraction, tiny fraction

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<v Speaker 1>of the cost. Essential to border security is a powerful

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<v Speaker 1>physical barrier. Walls work, whether we like it or not.

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<v Speaker 1>They work better than anything in Israel. Ninety nine point

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<v Speaker 1>nine percent successful illegal immigration drives down wages for the

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<v Speaker 1>neediest Americans. No one who calls themselves a progressive should

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<v Speaker 1>support illegal immigration. Open voters hurts poor Americans more than

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<v Speaker 1>anyone else in our society. In life, there are certain

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<v Speaker 1>principles worth fighting for, Principles that are more important than politics, party,

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<v Speaker 1>or personal convenience to safety and security and sovereignty of

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<v Speaker 1>the United States is the most important principle of all. Safety, security,

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<v Speaker 1>sovereignty of the people the United States. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>core issue for this republic. This is central and essential.

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<v Speaker 1>When I hear politicians, Democrats, leftists, and yes, some weak Republicans,

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<v Speaker 1>when I hear them saying that we don't have five

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<v Speaker 1>billion dollars to the wall, I want to ask, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what do we have five billion dollars for? At this point?

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<v Speaker 1>Let's look at the other things we're spending money on

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<v Speaker 1>as a country. I mean, what has been the expansion

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<v Speaker 1>in welfare programs since the Obama years to today? Where

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<v Speaker 1>are we giving people money? You lose eighty billion dollars

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<v Speaker 1>a year in Medicare fraud. Medicare and Medicaid fraud, they

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<v Speaker 1>estimate eighty billion. We don't have five billion dollars to

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<v Speaker 1>get a wall built. And this idea that the wall

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be perfect is nonsense. If you have

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<v Speaker 1>a lock on your door, you're not saying that somebody

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<v Speaker 1>with a sledgehammer can't get through your front door. You're

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<v Speaker 1>not saying it's going to keep out a squat team,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're not even saying that the burglar can't find

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<v Speaker 1>a way to maybe get through your window. Right. All

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<v Speaker 1>you're saying is I'm gonna make it harder. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to allow somebody to just get into my home

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<v Speaker 1>without effort, and therefore maybe give me some critical seconds

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<v Speaker 1>if they try to break in my front door to

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<v Speaker 1>get to a firearm, to call the police to take shelter.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, that's why you have a lock. Now, a

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<v Speaker 1>lock is not perfect. But if you didn't have a

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<v Speaker 1>lock on your front door, I know some of you

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<v Speaker 1>probably live in parts the country were like Buck, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't need a lock. But for most of the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of us, you probably have a lock on the door.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's because it's a sound security measure. A wall

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<v Speaker 1>in certain places is a sound security measure. It is

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<v Speaker 1>helpful to the process of preventing people from entering the

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<v Speaker 1>United States, including cartels and drug runners and you know

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<v Speaker 1>cicarios hit men for the various cartels, including them, preventing

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<v Speaker 1>them from coming into the country, as well as illegal

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<v Speaker 1>immigrants who are violating our sovereignty and our laws. Because

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<v Speaker 1>as Trump understands, and Democrats have abandoned this by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>they used to pretend that they were serious about this.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, therefore, any border security measure, as long

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<v Speaker 1>as it doesn't give us a secure border place sixteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Every nation has not only the right but the absolute

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<v Speaker 1>duty to protect its borders and its citizens. A nation

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<v Speaker 1>without borders is a nation not at all. Without borders,

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<v Speaker 1>we have the reign of chaos, crime, cartels, and believe

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<v Speaker 1>it or not, coyotes. I will not surrender this nation

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<v Speaker 1>to the whims of criminal organizations who pray on the vulnerable,

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<v Speaker 1>who hurt women and children, and has spread human misery

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<v Speaker 1>and suffering. There are very real costs to the continued

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<v Speaker 1>lawlessness at our border, and the lawlessness and law breaking

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<v Speaker 1>that is abetted by the Democrats in this country. In

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<v Speaker 1>the interior of the US, the sanctuary city policies, the

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<v Speaker 1>all these different legal activist groups running around suing everyone

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<v Speaker 1>and anyone who tries to enforce immigration law, making sure

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<v Speaker 1>that those who come to the country illegally have even

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<v Speaker 1>more resources at their disposal to evade law enforcement. Enough

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<v Speaker 1>is enough. No other country would be expected to accept this.

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<v Speaker 1>Why should we? No other country says, yes, just show up,

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<v Speaker 1>do what you want, don't worry about it. We owe

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<v Speaker 1>it to you. We owe it to you. Why exactly

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<v Speaker 1>we owe illegals what? The Democrats have embraced this as

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<v Speaker 1>an all out struggle for power, so they don't care

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<v Speaker 1>what the real consequences are to the country. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>care about the long term implications other than this is votes,

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<v Speaker 1>This is an ever enlarging government bureaucracy, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>power power for the left, which is the one thing

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<v Speaker 1>they are certain that they want always and at all times.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm pleased that the president right now, and this

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<v Speaker 1>could change. You know, I'll be on air with you tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll have to see that. Tomorrow night is the deadline.

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<v Speaker 1>This could change. I you know, yesterday you heard me

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<v Speaker 1>on this show. I support the president. I was very

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<v Speaker 1>unhappy with the stance that he was going to sign

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<v Speaker 1>this continuing resolution. And the word got out. The word

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<v Speaker 1>got out. You know, now people know Trump knows he heard,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've been in communication with people that have said that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the president is paying very close attention to

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<v Speaker 1>certain voices on this one, and it did not go

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<v Speaker 1>unnoticed that some of his strongest supporters, with the largest platforms,

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<v Speaker 1>we're saying that this was an unacceptable sell out of

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<v Speaker 1>the bass. I said it yesterday and Rising I said

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<v Speaker 1>it yesterday on this show too. Selling out the base

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<v Speaker 1>can't do it. Can't do it because I'm not here

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<v Speaker 1>to support a person as some cult of personality. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>here to talk about ideas and to talk about action

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<v Speaker 1>that will make this a better country and will make

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<v Speaker 1>people here safer, happier, and more prosperous. We're about results,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to push for results, convincing people of how to

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<v Speaker 1>get to them. And the result we were was a wall.

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<v Speaker 1>We weren't promised a little bit of extra extra paint

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, speckle and whatever else they gotta put

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<v Speaker 1>on the old wall. A new wall, a new barrier,

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<v Speaker 1>a new fence, secure the border. Look at the ramifications

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<v Speaker 1>that will have for the rest of immigration policy. Look

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<v Speaker 1>at how that will change many of the dynamics about

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<v Speaker 1>interior enforcement and just restoring the rule of law in

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<v Speaker 1>this country. I have some other breaking news that I

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<v Speaker 1>have to share with you here, and that is it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't to know we're going to talk about this until

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<v Speaker 1>we went on air. Secretary Defense Maddis has resigned. Not

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<v Speaker 1>effective immediately. He's going to wait until a successful transition

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<v Speaker 1>with a new Secretary Defense and the Joint Chiefs of

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<v Speaker 1>Staff Chairman can come in. But Secretary of Defense Maddis

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<v Speaker 1>is out. And it's not because he was tired of

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<v Speaker 1>the long hours. I'll get into the details of that

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<v Speaker 1>and more coming up. The President said, what the what

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<v Speaker 1>the Senate sent over is just kicking the ball, just

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<v Speaker 1>kicking a can down the road. We want to solve

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<v Speaker 1>this problem. We want to make sure we keep the

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<v Speaker 1>government open, and we're gonna work to have that done

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<v Speaker 1>and get something happening. Everyone knows the old line fool

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<v Speaker 1>me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.

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<v Speaker 1>But we're gonna have to change that line. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>need a new one. The new line should be fool

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<v Speaker 1>the American people four times. Shame on Congress. Remember what

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<v Speaker 1>we did March right the March big omnibus spending bill.

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<v Speaker 1>We said, oh no, we're not gonna put the border

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<v Speaker 1>wall funding on this bill because we're gonna do it

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<v Speaker 1>in September. Then we get the September Wait, wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not gonna put it on this bill because we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do it on December seventh, and then December sevenths.

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<v Speaker 1>Come a wait a minute, we're not gonna put the

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<v Speaker 1>We're not gon to keep our promise. We're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to put the border funding wall money on that built.

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<v Speaker 1>And what do we learn today. Now they're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>kicking it to February eighth. You've got to be kidding me. Yep,

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<v Speaker 1>he's right, he's right. How many times do they get

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<v Speaker 1>to pull the same manuver? This is why I'm usually

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<v Speaker 1>so cynical about the whole Oh, we'll fight the next time.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk you know, it's always we'll fight the next time.

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<v Speaker 1>What about this time? What about getting the wall? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>We have the Secure Offence Act passing two thousand and six,

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<v Speaker 1>bipartisan bill. We used to agree that stopping illegal immigration

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<v Speaker 1>was good, but Democrats see the writing on the wall.

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<v Speaker 1>They realize over the long term, illegal immigration benefits them,

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<v Speaker 1>benefits their base, their party, their power. They don't want

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<v Speaker 1>this to stop, so we have there's no common ground

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<v Speaker 1>to be reached with the left on the issue of

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<v Speaker 1>border security. They are not in favor of it. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>if anything, the only the only reason they want anyone

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<v Speaker 1>to stop and check in is so they can eventually

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<v Speaker 1>register for their state benefits i e. Welfare programs. Democrats

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<v Speaker 1>are all in favor of it, right, taking from you,

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<v Speaker 1>taking from the taxpayers, giving to people that just God

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<v Speaker 1>here we are supposed to be. It seems according to

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<v Speaker 1>the left the world's soup kitchen, and unfortunately, over time

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<v Speaker 1>that has real costs and real consequences to our political

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<v Speaker 1>cohesion and to the sense that a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>have at the government is just constantly being dishonest with them.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it isn't an amazing we have on the

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<v Speaker 1>one hand, all these people who are just so rule

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<v Speaker 1>of law when it comes to the Logan Act, when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to the Emolument's clause, when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>Federal Election Commission regulation and disclosure requirements, ooh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're really really up on all of that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the Hatch Act, the Logan Act. You know, they talk

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<v Speaker 1>about all these things that they they're strict when when

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<v Speaker 1>that benefits something they want. But on immigration, which also

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<v Speaker 1>includes I would note a lot of document fraud, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of tax fraud, a lot of you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>go down the list. No, when with illegal immigration, the

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<v Speaker 1>law doesn't matter anymore, The law doesn't really count. There's

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<v Speaker 1>really two sets of laws for citizens and non citizens.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's an unacceptable state of affairs, and it's not

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<v Speaker 1>going to get any better. In fact, it's only going

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<v Speaker 1>to get worse. The time to deal with this problem

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<v Speaker 1>is now I'm glad that Jim Jordan and Mark Meadows

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<v Speaker 1>and a few others understand it. And thankfully the president. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>I get it. He wants he wants to go on

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas break. He wants me to his family. The guy's

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<v Speaker 1>got a lot, got a lot on his shoulders. But

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<v Speaker 1>now is the time. Vescholi is also getting in on

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<v Speaker 1>the action. You're playing nineteen. We're gonna move today to

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<v Speaker 1>add language to the bill that the Senate sent over

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<v Speaker 1>on government funding to add five billion dollars to the wall,

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<v Speaker 1>as well as the disaster relief funding that's been agreed

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<v Speaker 1>upon by both the House and Senate for the hurricanes

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<v Speaker 1>and the wildfires. So we'll move that later on today.

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<v Speaker 1>This is about secure in America's border. Let's see if

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<v Speaker 1>we can do it. We're about to enter a fight here,

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<v Speaker 1>and we voted for Trump because he's a fighter. I

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<v Speaker 1>expect him to roll up the sleeves and throw down

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<v Speaker 1>on this one. He promised a wall. I want that wall,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not going to forget it one way or

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<v Speaker 1>the other. Let's talk about General Maddis resigning. When we

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<v Speaker 1>come back from the spring, General Maddis has resigned. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a surprise. Obviously, this was not anticipated, and this

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<v Speaker 1>comes at a time when there's already a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of concern over the president's decision to remove

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<v Speaker 1>troops from Syria, which i'll talk to you about in

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<v Speaker 1>some detail in the next hour, as well as the

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<v Speaker 1>possibility of removing troops from other theaters of war. General

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<v Speaker 1>Maddis has decided that he's not going to be part

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<v Speaker 1>of this. He's actually written a resignation letter, and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>give you some of the most important parts of that

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<v Speaker 1>in a moment. But this administration has, let's be honest,

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<v Speaker 1>had a number of very prominent individuals who, well they

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<v Speaker 1>are very people in very prominent roles who were not

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<v Speaker 1>up to the task. There are some people who lasted

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<v Speaker 1>a matter of days in very senior executive branch positions.

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<v Speaker 1>There has been turnover is always high in the White House,

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<v Speaker 1>but this White House is exceptionally high when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to turnover. Again. President Trump has always said that he

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<v Speaker 1>is non traditional, that he is going to have to

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<v Speaker 1>break some things in the establishment. It's going to be difficult,

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to be messy. So I think we should

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<v Speaker 1>give him some leeway for that. And I'm certainly willing

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<v Speaker 1>to do that. But there have only been a few

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<v Speaker 1>people in the administration who I think could be said

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<v Speaker 1>to receive universal respect. Doesn't mean everyone likes them or

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<v Speaker 1>agrees with them, but you know, near universal respect perhaps,

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<v Speaker 1>but broadly generally speaking individuals who are impeccable in their

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<v Speaker 1>credentials and are men or women of real skill, integrity, honor,

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<v Speaker 1>and who are true public servants. And I think Mattis

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<v Speaker 1>very much falls in that category. I knew of Mattis

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<v Speaker 1>from when he was commanding in the Iraq Theater of Operations,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, the stories about him were things that

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<v Speaker 1>people would tell each other, and they were always said

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<v Speaker 1>with a certain pride. You know that the stories about

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<v Speaker 1>about General Maddis, and some of you probably know the

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<v Speaker 1>one where he's he sat down with some you know,

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<v Speaker 1>tribal elders. I think it was in Iraq and he said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I didn't bring And whether this is an

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<v Speaker 1>apocryphal quote or not, I don't know. I mean this

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<v Speaker 1>as people say. You know, Maddis said, you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>basically I did not bring my artillery. I did not

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<v Speaker 1>come here for war, you know, And I'm begging you

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<v Speaker 1>with tears in my eyes. Do not mess with me,

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<v Speaker 1>because I will take any of you out if you do.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I mean, he was that was more or

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<v Speaker 1>less the story. You know. The General Maddis was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm a man who wants peace and stability, but

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<v Speaker 1>if you mess with me, things will get really ugly,

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<v Speaker 1>really fast. People call them mad dog Maddis. Obviously he's

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<v Speaker 1>got all these different nicknames, and he's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>leaving the administration. Let me read to you from some

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<v Speaker 1>of his resignation letter here. Dear mister President, I have

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<v Speaker 1>been privileged to serve as our country's twenty six Secretary

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<v Speaker 1>of Defense, which has allowed me to serve alongside our

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<v Speaker 1>men and women of the Department in defense of our

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<v Speaker 1>citizens and our ideals. I am proud of the progress

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<v Speaker 1>that has been made over the last two years on

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<v Speaker 1>some of the key goals articulated in our National Defense Strategy,

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<v Speaker 1>putting the Department on a more sound budgetary footing, improving

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<v Speaker 1>readiness and lethality in our forces, and reforming the Department's

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<v Speaker 1>business practices for greater performance. Our troops continue to provide

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<v Speaker 1>the capabilities needed to prevail in conflict and sustain strong

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<v Speaker 1>US global influence. I believe we must be resolute and

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<v Speaker 1>unambiguous in our approach to countries whose strategic interests are

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<v Speaker 1>increasingly intentioned with ours. It is clear that China and Russia,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, want to shape a world consistent with their

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<v Speaker 1>authoritarian model, gaining veto over other nations economic, diplomatic, and

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<v Speaker 1>security decisions to promote their own interests at the expense

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<v Speaker 1>of their neighbors, America and our allies. That is why

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we must use all the tools of American

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<v Speaker 1>power to provide for the common defense. My views on

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<v Speaker 1>treating allies with respect and also being clear eyed about

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<v Speaker 1>both malign actors and strategic competitors are strongly held and

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<v Speaker 1>informed by over four decades of immersion in these issues.

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<v Speaker 1>We must do everything possible to advance an international order

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<v Speaker 1>that is most conducive to our security, prosperity, and values.

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<v Speaker 1>And we are strengthened in this effort by the solidarity

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<v Speaker 1>of our alliances. Because you have the right to a

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<v Speaker 1>Secretary of Defense whose views are better aligned with yours

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<v Speaker 1>on these and other subjects, I believe it is right

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<v Speaker 1>for me to step down from my position. The end

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<v Speaker 1>date for my tenure is February twenty eight, twenty nineteen,

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<v Speaker 1>a date that should allow us, if time, for a

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<v Speaker 1>successor to be nominated and confirmed, as well as to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure the Department's interests are properly articulated and protected

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<v Speaker 1>at upcoming events, to include Congressional posture hearings and the

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<v Speaker 1>NATO Defense Ministerial Meeting in February. Further, that a full

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<v Speaker 1>transition to a new Secretary of Defense occurs well in

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<v Speaker 1>advance of the transition of Chairman of the Joint Chiefs

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<v Speaker 1>of Staff in September, to ensure stability within the Department.

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<v Speaker 1>I pledge my full effort to a smooth transition that

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<v Speaker 1>ensures the needs and interests of two point one five

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<v Speaker 1>million service members and seven hundred thirty two and seventy

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<v Speaker 1>nine Department of Defense civilians, so that they receive undistracted

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<v Speaker 1>attention to the Department at all times, so that they

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<v Speaker 1>can fulfill their critical round the clock mission to protect

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<v Speaker 1>the American people. I very much appreciate this opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>serve the nation and our men and women in uniform,

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<v Speaker 1>Signed General John Mattis. James Mattis, sorry, said John my

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<v Speaker 1>bed Uh. This is a This is not a departure

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<v Speaker 1>that I think anybody's going to think is a good idea. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe some people will. Mattis was one of those figures

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<v Speaker 1>in the administration that people look to and said, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a steady hand there and somebody who really knows the job. Now,

0:25:31.280 --> 0:25:33.600
<v Speaker 1>there are two point one five million service members. There

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<v Speaker 1>are a lot of people out there with military skills

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<v Speaker 1>and experience in this country and strategic wisdom knowledge that

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<v Speaker 1>would be fantastic secretaries of Defense, no question about it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I have a lot of faith at President Trump

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<v Speaker 1>for this role in particular, will be sure to find

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<v Speaker 1>someone who is an excellent pick. But this does come

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<v Speaker 1>at a time when the opponents of this administration are

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<v Speaker 1>going to pounce on this and say, see, even Maddis

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't willing to stick it out. Even Maddis had had enough,

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<v Speaker 1>and that will cause some damage to the administration. It's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be something that I don't think stretches on

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<v Speaker 1>for that long. But given the political sensitivity of the

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<v Speaker 1>moment right now, with a shut down the wall and

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<v Speaker 1>the Muller investigation grinding on, this is not a particularly

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<v Speaker 1>helpful story for the administration. That said, I do have

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<v Speaker 1>to just note as an aside that to do this,

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<v Speaker 1>to decide that you can no longer in good you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in good faith, align yourself at the policy of the president,

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<v Speaker 1>and to say I'm just going to step down, mister President,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for the honor opportunity, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to make sure this is a smooth transition. To

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<v Speaker 1>resign in this way is the honorable thing to do.

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<v Speaker 1>And I can't remember the last time a cabinet level

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<v Speaker 1>official did this. I can't remember, maybe with a with

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<v Speaker 1>a scandal, but just to offer a resignation in this

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<v Speaker 1>way because they disagree with the policy administration. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Maddis is a man of honor and this was the

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<v Speaker 1>honorable thing he felt for him to do in the circumstances.

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<v Speaker 1>Where does this go next, We'll have to see. But

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<v Speaker 1>now the Syria decision has even more pressure on it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll go into detail about the pluses and minuses of

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<v Speaker 1>pulling troops out of Syria in the next hour. Be

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<v Speaker 1>right back as Republican from the suburbs. It would definitely

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<v Speaker 1>hurt the Republican Party politically. We would be blamed for this,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe not in the States that the freedom Carkers represents.

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<v Speaker 1>But I can tell you in the states where the

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<v Speaker 1>suburban areas, this is a bad issue out of the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty elections. They should keep that in mind. You

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<v Speaker 1>got Congressman King there saying, oh, no Republicans get blamed

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<v Speaker 1>for the show down? Well is that true? And also

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<v Speaker 1>how much should we care? What are the politics at

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<v Speaker 1>play here? We got an expert joining us, Harlan Hill.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a political consultant. You also see him frequently on

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<v Speaker 1>Fox News and he will be guest hosting this show

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<v Speaker 1>next week, the one and only Harlan Hill. Good to

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<v Speaker 1>have you on, sir, Great to be with you. Buck.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you make of this? Man? I mean, here

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<v Speaker 1>we are, you know, looks like we're actually we were

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<v Speaker 1>heading into a shotdown, then we weren't. Now we are again.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this the right move? Where's the GOP on this?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, just break it down? Yeah. So look, it's

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<v Speaker 1>so simple. I mean, for two years, we've had the House,

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<v Speaker 1>we had the Senate, and then we've had a president

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<v Speaker 1>that was ready and willing to sign any funding for

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<v Speaker 1>the wall, for any border security that Republicans would send

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<v Speaker 1>his way. And for two years, modern Republicans have advocated

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<v Speaker 1>their responsibility and their electoral mandate to send the president

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<v Speaker 1>a build a sign on this issue. We've gotten some

0:28:56.920 --> 0:29:00.320
<v Speaker 1>measly funding here and there, but by and large haven't

0:29:00.320 --> 0:29:02.920
<v Speaker 1>been fulfilling what voters sent them to Washington to do

0:29:03.040 --> 0:29:07.280
<v Speaker 1>on this issue. And the President said earlier this year

0:29:07.440 --> 0:29:09.280
<v Speaker 1>that if you know, next time we have one of

0:29:09.320 --> 0:29:13.640
<v Speaker 1>these shutdown fights, I'm gonna put my foot down and

0:29:13.960 --> 0:29:17.280
<v Speaker 1>if I have to take responsibility for the shutdown to

0:29:17.320 --> 0:29:19.920
<v Speaker 1>get border security funding, I'm willing to do it. And

0:29:19.960 --> 0:29:22.200
<v Speaker 1>what we saw this morning is the President's following through

0:29:22.240 --> 0:29:24.360
<v Speaker 1>with his promise of the American people that he's going

0:29:24.440 --> 0:29:28.080
<v Speaker 1>to take his electoral mandate very seriously. And it's simple.

0:29:28.720 --> 0:29:31.320
<v Speaker 1>He can't back down on the wall. It is one

0:29:31.320 --> 0:29:34.280
<v Speaker 1>of the core tenets of the twenty sixteen Trump Revolution,

0:29:34.800 --> 0:29:38.360
<v Speaker 1>and voters expect him to deliver on this. And so

0:29:38.440 --> 0:29:42.000
<v Speaker 1>now's the time, because frankly, it's not going to get

0:29:42.040 --> 0:29:45.400
<v Speaker 1>any easier with Nancy Pelosi as Speaker next year to

0:29:45.480 --> 0:29:48.760
<v Speaker 1>get any sort of border security funding. And so now

0:29:49.040 --> 0:29:53.000
<v Speaker 1>is our opportunity, and Republicans across the board you need

0:29:53.000 --> 0:29:54.400
<v Speaker 1>to step up, and if that means we'll we have

0:29:54.440 --> 0:29:58.760
<v Speaker 1>to incurse some short term pain through a shutdown, so

0:29:58.880 --> 0:30:01.440
<v Speaker 1>be it. That's that's that's the reality we're living in.

0:30:01.640 --> 0:30:03.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we're game is out for me a little

0:30:03.160 --> 0:30:05.400
<v Speaker 1>bit here. If so, let's say we do go into

0:30:05.400 --> 0:30:09.080
<v Speaker 1>a shutdown midnight on Friday, Uh, what then should the

0:30:09.080 --> 0:30:12.520
<v Speaker 1>administration be doing? And what does what does success look like?

0:30:12.560 --> 0:30:17.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, can you foresee a future in which there are,

0:30:17.040 --> 0:30:20.280
<v Speaker 1>in fact a few billion dollars earmark for wall construction?

0:30:20.360 --> 0:30:23.640
<v Speaker 1>Or I just feel like Democrats know that to give

0:30:23.720 --> 0:30:27.840
<v Speaker 1>Trump the ability to to follow through on that promise

0:30:28.200 --> 0:30:32.200
<v Speaker 1>would be an enormous uh, an enormous wind at his

0:30:32.280 --> 0:30:34.800
<v Speaker 1>back going into twenty twenty. So I feel like they'll

0:30:34.800 --> 0:30:36.480
<v Speaker 1>do anything to stop him. But you know, how do

0:30:36.520 --> 0:30:40.040
<v Speaker 1>you see this playing out? Well, you know, let's play

0:30:41.040 --> 0:30:45.640
<v Speaker 1>the calendar to our advantage. If this means that House

0:30:45.680 --> 0:30:49.440
<v Speaker 1>and Senate Democrats need to stay in Washington, UM to

0:30:49.840 --> 0:30:52.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, head off a Republican vote on this, then

0:30:52.520 --> 0:30:55.440
<v Speaker 1>make them stay through the Christmas break. I mean, that's

0:30:55.480 --> 0:30:58.600
<v Speaker 1>that's you know, that's the option that we have. UM

0:30:58.760 --> 0:31:00.480
<v Speaker 1>And did you see did you see some of the

0:31:00.480 --> 0:31:04.239
<v Speaker 1>politicians today? I think one of them was what's her

0:31:04.320 --> 0:31:06.920
<v Speaker 1>name from up in Maine, who was like, oh my gosh,

0:31:06.960 --> 0:31:09.840
<v Speaker 1>we might actually have to work on the twenty on

0:31:09.880 --> 0:31:13.320
<v Speaker 1>the twenty second, like, yeah, a lot of I'm working

0:31:13.360 --> 0:31:15.080
<v Speaker 1>on the twenty six. I mean, I got all kinds

0:31:15.120 --> 0:31:18.360
<v Speaker 1>of stuff I gotta do. Yeah, I mean, look, you

0:31:18.360 --> 0:31:20.280
<v Speaker 1>guys have kicked out the can down the road for

0:31:20.320 --> 0:31:22.080
<v Speaker 1>two years on this issue. Now it's the time to

0:31:22.080 --> 0:31:24.240
<v Speaker 1>step up. And if you've got to work, the American

0:31:24.240 --> 0:31:26.240
<v Speaker 1>people have got no sympathy for you, whether you're a

0:31:26.240 --> 0:31:29.080
<v Speaker 1>Democrat or Republican, okay, because they're out there busting there

0:31:29.080 --> 0:31:31.560
<v Speaker 1>behinds every day to make ends, meeting to deliver for

0:31:31.600 --> 0:31:35.440
<v Speaker 1>their bosses. Now it's the time for Congress to deliver

0:31:35.480 --> 0:31:39.720
<v Speaker 1>to their bosses, the American people. And so let's keep them.

0:31:39.960 --> 0:31:41.880
<v Speaker 1>If they've got to see in Washington to vote on this.

0:31:42.000 --> 0:31:44.600
<v Speaker 1>If Democrats in the Senate needs to stay in Washington

0:31:44.680 --> 0:31:47.640
<v Speaker 1>to filibuster this because that's what we're up against, because

0:31:47.640 --> 0:31:50.480
<v Speaker 1>we need sixty votes in the Senate, then then so

0:31:50.640 --> 0:31:52.400
<v Speaker 1>be it and make them do it. Let's run the

0:31:52.400 --> 0:31:55.200
<v Speaker 1>clock out however long this takes. But we need to

0:31:55.360 --> 0:31:57.120
<v Speaker 1>We need leadership in the House and the Senate to

0:31:57.160 --> 0:32:00.640
<v Speaker 1>step up and do what's needed. And if that means

0:32:00.640 --> 0:32:03.160
<v Speaker 1>that they've got to, you know, forego some political expedients,

0:32:03.720 --> 0:32:06.440
<v Speaker 1>you know what, that's fine. Let's show the American people

0:32:06.440 --> 0:32:08.520
<v Speaker 1>how serious of an issue this is and that we're

0:32:08.520 --> 0:32:11.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna do whatever it takes to fix this problem. It's

0:32:11.640 --> 0:32:15.240
<v Speaker 1>an issue of national security. You know, Harlan, We're going

0:32:15.280 --> 0:32:19.280
<v Speaker 1>into a divided government scenario in twenty nineteen, first time

0:32:19.520 --> 0:32:22.160
<v Speaker 1>that President Trump is going to be facing this. Well,

0:32:22.160 --> 0:32:24.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, you're you're in close contact with the White House.

0:32:24.480 --> 0:32:26.920
<v Speaker 1>I know you're you're talking to folks over there on

0:32:27.080 --> 0:32:30.880
<v Speaker 1>a regular basis. What is the strategy? I mean, how

0:32:30.880 --> 0:32:32.840
<v Speaker 1>where does the president think that he might be able

0:32:32.920 --> 0:32:36.720
<v Speaker 1>to make some gains? Uh, obviously they're gonna they're gonna

0:32:36.720 --> 0:32:38.040
<v Speaker 1>have to play a lot of defense with all the

0:32:38.080 --> 0:32:42.280
<v Speaker 1>investigations and just the the conspiracy theories and the nuttiness

0:32:42.280 --> 0:32:45.200
<v Speaker 1>that's going to come out of the Democrat led House

0:32:45.200 --> 0:32:47.840
<v Speaker 1>of Representatives. And we know this, they've already told this.

0:32:47.840 --> 0:32:50.719
<v Speaker 1>That's that's essentially what's going to happen. But what can

0:32:50.760 --> 0:32:52.840
<v Speaker 1>you tell us about you know, what Trump, what Team

0:32:52.840 --> 0:32:54.640
<v Speaker 1>Trump is going to try to do in twenty nineteen,

0:32:54.680 --> 0:32:57.200
<v Speaker 1>and and what does a successful twenty nineteen look like,

0:32:57.720 --> 0:33:01.240
<v Speaker 1>well the president, I think it's always functioned the best

0:33:01.440 --> 0:33:07.239
<v Speaker 1>when he doesn't maybe inflate the guidance of some of

0:33:07.600 --> 0:33:11.840
<v Speaker 1>his advisors and he relies on his instincts. And we

0:33:11.880 --> 0:33:14.640
<v Speaker 1>saw that play out this week with the troop withdrawal

0:33:14.680 --> 0:33:17.760
<v Speaker 1>in Syria, and from the rumors that are being reported

0:33:17.760 --> 0:33:19.880
<v Speaker 1>by both the Wall Street Journal and CNN this afternoon,

0:33:20.080 --> 0:33:21.920
<v Speaker 1>it looks like he's going to be withdrawing troops from

0:33:21.960 --> 0:33:24.760
<v Speaker 1>Afghanistan as well. Potentially, that's the rumor that's gone around,

0:33:25.880 --> 0:33:28.240
<v Speaker 1>and you know, that flies in the face of what

0:33:28.400 --> 0:33:31.360
<v Speaker 1>a lot of his his advisors have suggested, but it

0:33:31.400 --> 0:33:34.560
<v Speaker 1>fulfills another core promise of the Trump presidency. I think

0:33:34.560 --> 0:33:37.440
<v Speaker 1>that we're going to continue to see this version of

0:33:37.480 --> 0:33:42.360
<v Speaker 1>President Trump in going into twenty nineteen. You know, he's

0:33:42.440 --> 0:33:45.280
<v Speaker 1>the gloves are off. You know, we're not going to

0:33:46.120 --> 0:33:51.920
<v Speaker 1>worry too much about, you know, the short term political consequences.

0:33:52.160 --> 0:33:55.160
<v Speaker 1>We're going to just focus on fulfilling the promises of

0:33:55.160 --> 0:33:58.840
<v Speaker 1>twenty sixteen. And because you know, that's ultimately why he's

0:33:58.840 --> 0:34:01.160
<v Speaker 1>in the White House. He had he had a list

0:34:01.160 --> 0:34:03.760
<v Speaker 1>of promises that gave him an electoral mandate when he

0:34:03.800 --> 0:34:07.440
<v Speaker 1>won and I think the voter is going into twenty twenty,

0:34:07.480 --> 0:34:10.120
<v Speaker 1>all the sixty plus million voters that the cast of

0:34:10.160 --> 0:34:12.160
<v Speaker 1>ballot for President Trump are going to want to see

0:34:12.239 --> 0:34:15.399
<v Speaker 1>him deliver across all those fronts. And there's there's some

0:34:15.440 --> 0:34:18.200
<v Speaker 1>real opportunity for us to cut through and find some

0:34:18.239 --> 0:34:20.680
<v Speaker 1>commonality with Democrats in the House of the Senate, whether

0:34:20.680 --> 0:34:24.120
<v Speaker 1>it's on infrastructure or healthcare or some other issues. You know,

0:34:24.160 --> 0:34:26.239
<v Speaker 1>the wall is a more complicated issue that I don't

0:34:26.239 --> 0:34:28.520
<v Speaker 1>think that we're going to get Republican times sorry Democrats

0:34:28.480 --> 0:34:31.160
<v Speaker 1>to come to the table on. But I think that

0:34:31.200 --> 0:34:35.160
<v Speaker 1>the President will threate the needle and find, um, you know,

0:34:35.200 --> 0:34:38.239
<v Speaker 1>some things to work with Democrats on if they're willing participants,

0:34:38.239 --> 0:34:40.040
<v Speaker 1>if they're going to be willing partners at the table.

0:34:40.080 --> 0:34:46.040
<v Speaker 1>And that's really the question. If the President gets the wall,

0:34:46.239 --> 0:34:49.600
<v Speaker 1>I think he's in very good shape for twenty twenty.

0:34:50.239 --> 0:34:52.600
<v Speaker 1>Do you have concerns though about twenty twenty if the

0:34:52.600 --> 0:34:56.920
<v Speaker 1>President doesn't get the wall? Harlan, The President's got to

0:34:56.960 --> 0:34:59.279
<v Speaker 1>deliver on it, and he knows and that's why he's

0:34:59.320 --> 0:35:03.520
<v Speaker 1>That's why he he's willing to take responsibility for the shutdown.

0:35:03.560 --> 0:35:07.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, this poses an existential threat to his election

0:35:07.200 --> 0:35:10.000
<v Speaker 1>prospects going into twenty twenty. He knows, he knows that

0:35:10.040 --> 0:35:13.719
<v Speaker 1>he's got to deliver on the wall materially, not you know,

0:35:13.760 --> 0:35:16.239
<v Speaker 1>one hundred miles you're there. He's got to deliver on

0:35:16.280 --> 0:35:20.439
<v Speaker 1>it in some real way to appease his voters because

0:35:20.440 --> 0:35:24.120
<v Speaker 1>the base is frustrated and he understands that. I understand that.

0:35:25.760 --> 0:35:29.200
<v Speaker 1>So we've reached the point of no return. Now is

0:35:29.200 --> 0:35:31.080
<v Speaker 1>the time to deliver on it one way or another

0:35:31.480 --> 0:35:35.399
<v Speaker 1>at all costs, and that's what he's doing. Harlan Hill,

0:35:35.400 --> 0:35:38.280
<v Speaker 1>everybody political consultant. You can follow him on Twitter. Also

0:35:38.920 --> 0:35:41.200
<v Speaker 1>very excited to have him in next week for a

0:35:41.320 --> 0:35:44.120
<v Speaker 1>full show here on the bucks X and Show. Harlan,

0:35:44.239 --> 0:35:46.120
<v Speaker 1>have a very merry Christmas, my friend, and we'll be

0:35:46.120 --> 0:35:48.279
<v Speaker 1>talking to you next week. Merry Christmas, Thank you team.

0:35:48.280 --> 0:35:52.279
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0:37:23.840 --> 0:37:27.960
<v Speaker 1>there's all this consternation now from the left. That was

0:37:28.040 --> 0:37:32.800
<v Speaker 1>Rosenstein there talking about this at the DOJ, about Bill Barr,

0:37:32.840 --> 0:37:39.040
<v Speaker 1>about Matt Whittaker. Let's break this down, because they show

0:37:39.200 --> 0:37:41.520
<v Speaker 1>who they really are in this process. We get a

0:37:41.560 --> 0:37:45.279
<v Speaker 1>real understanding of the liberal mentality throughout all of this

0:37:45.480 --> 0:37:50.400
<v Speaker 1>because they're not being I mean, they're not honest players

0:37:50.440 --> 0:37:54.360
<v Speaker 1>in this, and they don't have any consistency. There's no

0:37:54.400 --> 0:37:59.480
<v Speaker 1>principle on display. Let me explain. Let's start with Matt Whittaker. Okay,

0:37:59.480 --> 0:38:06.480
<v Speaker 1>Whittaker is the acting Attorney General, and the big problem

0:38:06.480 --> 0:38:08.839
<v Speaker 1>they have with him is that, as we all know,

0:38:08.960 --> 0:38:13.279
<v Speaker 1>the Mueller probe just grinds on continues to be a

0:38:13.400 --> 0:38:18.400
<v Speaker 1>dark cloud hanging over the Trump administration, bankrupting people, prosecuting

0:38:18.440 --> 0:38:22.440
<v Speaker 1>people for trivial crimes, pretending that crimes that have never

0:38:22.480 --> 0:38:25.320
<v Speaker 1>been prosecuted or are rarely prosecuted, or all of a sudden,

0:38:25.680 --> 0:38:28.359
<v Speaker 1>huge deals because of Trump, you know, I mean, the

0:38:28.400 --> 0:38:32.319
<v Speaker 1>selective prosecution that's been on display in the last two

0:38:32.400 --> 0:38:39.400
<v Speaker 1>years has been insidious. This is the most clear period

0:38:39.480 --> 0:38:43.840
<v Speaker 1>in my memory that we've seen that the left operates

0:38:43.840 --> 0:38:46.480
<v Speaker 1>with a double standard of justice, that anytime a Republican

0:38:46.920 --> 0:38:50.439
<v Speaker 1>can have the law used against him by those within

0:38:50.480 --> 0:38:54.600
<v Speaker 1>the government bureaucracy, it somehow happens. And on the other side,

0:38:54.600 --> 0:38:57.799
<v Speaker 1>with Democrats, they always get the benefit of the doubt,

0:38:57.920 --> 0:38:59.880
<v Speaker 1>or they just get a get out of jail free car.

0:39:00.040 --> 0:39:02.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean the case of Hillary, it's a get out

0:39:02.160 --> 0:39:05.960
<v Speaker 1>of Joe free card. But with Whittaker, they're very upset

0:39:06.080 --> 0:39:10.799
<v Speaker 1>because he had said in private life he had been

0:39:10.840 --> 0:39:14.200
<v Speaker 1>critical of the Muller probe and it said that, you know,

0:39:14.239 --> 0:39:18.640
<v Speaker 1>it would be possible to defund it. They were saying, oh,

0:39:18.680 --> 0:39:22.879
<v Speaker 1>this is terrible. Now Trump, unlike all the presidents before him,

0:39:23.440 --> 0:39:28.520
<v Speaker 1>Trump would not be allowed to have an acting cabinet

0:39:28.560 --> 0:39:30.799
<v Speaker 1>level official while he while he got a new one

0:39:30.840 --> 0:39:34.520
<v Speaker 1>in place, because they were just essentially changing the rules

0:39:34.560 --> 0:39:36.279
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden. You know, you could only have

0:39:36.320 --> 0:39:39.640
<v Speaker 1>somebody who already had the advice and consent of the

0:39:39.680 --> 0:39:41.920
<v Speaker 1>Senate in that role. It just it just didn't make

0:39:41.960 --> 0:39:44.320
<v Speaker 1>any sense. You notice how it kind of fell away,

0:39:44.400 --> 0:39:48.600
<v Speaker 1>And now it looks like Whittaker is in fact going

0:39:48.640 --> 0:39:51.520
<v Speaker 1>to be the act is the acting Attorny general and

0:39:51.520 --> 0:39:54.120
<v Speaker 1>they've got this guy. Did I say Bill Barr? I

0:39:54.160 --> 0:39:58.280
<v Speaker 1>might have said Bob Bar Bill Barr, who is slated

0:39:58.320 --> 0:40:01.560
<v Speaker 1>to be the next attorney general. Now, Bill Barr is

0:40:01.719 --> 0:40:05.680
<v Speaker 1>a guy that when Trump nominated him, and this is

0:40:05.680 --> 0:40:10.080
<v Speaker 1>why you have all this uh that this anger coming

0:40:10.080 --> 0:40:13.080
<v Speaker 1>out of lives late in the game here. When Trump

0:40:13.200 --> 0:40:15.319
<v Speaker 1>nominated him, it was like, okay, well, you know, he

0:40:15.360 --> 0:40:19.000
<v Speaker 1>had been the attorney general under the Bush a under

0:40:19.360 --> 0:40:24.920
<v Speaker 1>a previous Bush administration, and he is a very well

0:40:25.000 --> 0:40:30.080
<v Speaker 1>respected guy in terms of his ethics, his jurisprudence, and

0:40:30.360 --> 0:40:34.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, he's just a guy who the establishment could

0:40:34.239 --> 0:40:38.960
<v Speaker 1>not tear apart. Okay, He's a guy that the establishment

0:40:39.040 --> 0:40:41.120
<v Speaker 1>was not in a role and the Democrats could not

0:40:41.600 --> 0:40:45.799
<v Speaker 1>credibly point to and say that he's he's some sort

0:40:45.840 --> 0:40:54.200
<v Speaker 1>of Trump outlier because he had served successfully in the

0:40:54.360 --> 0:40:58.080
<v Speaker 1>in the Bush administration. So you know, this is a

0:40:58.120 --> 0:41:02.520
<v Speaker 1>guy who there's nothing they can say about him that

0:41:02.719 --> 0:41:06.160
<v Speaker 1>does not show what their true feelings are, which is

0:41:06.200 --> 0:41:08.440
<v Speaker 1>that they know this, I mean deep down where they

0:41:08.480 --> 0:41:11.400
<v Speaker 1>say it out loud or not, they know that Muller

0:41:11.600 --> 0:41:17.040
<v Speaker 1>is a weapon against Trump. That Muller's top people, Weissman

0:41:17.120 --> 0:41:20.920
<v Speaker 1>and others. They are weapons against Trump, and this is

0:41:20.920 --> 0:41:24.120
<v Speaker 1>the most effective opposition they could muster against Trump. It's

0:41:24.160 --> 0:41:26.800
<v Speaker 1>not at the it's not at the ballot box. You know,

0:41:26.840 --> 0:41:29.719
<v Speaker 1>they couldn't take the Senate in the midterms. It's it's

0:41:29.840 --> 0:41:31.920
<v Speaker 1>it's not going to be I think, at the ballot

0:41:31.960 --> 0:41:34.640
<v Speaker 1>box even in twenty twenty. They're trying to use the

0:41:34.719 --> 0:41:37.759
<v Speaker 1>law to get for them. And really it's not even

0:41:37.800 --> 0:41:40.879
<v Speaker 1>the law. It's the prosecutor's office that's different. The law

0:41:40.920 --> 0:41:45.760
<v Speaker 1>would require the usage of principle, the application of legal principle,

0:41:46.600 --> 0:41:48.640
<v Speaker 1>which I would be in favor of. But no, they're

0:41:48.719 --> 0:41:53.760
<v Speaker 1>looking for the application of prosecutorial discretion in their favor,

0:41:53.960 --> 0:41:59.120
<v Speaker 1>which is a different thing. Right. They're hoping that essentially

0:41:59.200 --> 0:42:03.560
<v Speaker 1>the prosecutor offices can be harnessed in an anti Trump crusade.

0:42:03.560 --> 0:42:06.399
<v Speaker 1>And that's why the special prosecutors so so useful for them.

0:42:06.440 --> 0:42:08.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, do we do we not see a pattern?

0:42:08.800 --> 0:42:11.680
<v Speaker 1>Ear folks, just stepping back from all this for a second.

0:42:12.280 --> 0:42:15.640
<v Speaker 1>You know, Trump beats Hillary and oh, it's because of

0:42:15.719 --> 0:42:20.399
<v Speaker 1>Russia and because Trump cheated Bush beat score. Oh it's

0:42:20.440 --> 0:42:23.560
<v Speaker 1>because of the Supreme Court in Florida, and they cheated

0:42:24.680 --> 0:42:27.920
<v Speaker 1>We don't pull the they cheated card in presidential elections.

0:42:27.960 --> 0:42:32.280
<v Speaker 1>We just say, all right, you know, Romney lost, McCain lost.

0:42:32.800 --> 0:42:35.000
<v Speaker 1>We are willing to be big boys and girls about this.

0:42:35.760 --> 0:42:38.880
<v Speaker 1>With the left, there's always an excuse. There's always always

0:42:38.920 --> 0:42:43.200
<v Speaker 1>because of voter suppression. Where was the voter suppression happening somewhere?

0:42:43.280 --> 0:42:46.719
<v Speaker 1>Why are you so racist and xenophobic? Why do you

0:42:46.760 --> 0:42:49.799
<v Speaker 1>hate everything? It's well, that's not really an argument you're making, right,

0:42:50.040 --> 0:42:53.839
<v Speaker 1>They're just they're just throwing emotions out there and slandering

0:42:54.280 --> 0:42:56.360
<v Speaker 1>half of the country because half the country does not

0:42:56.440 --> 0:43:00.319
<v Speaker 1>agree with them about what the government should be doing

0:43:00.320 --> 0:43:04.560
<v Speaker 1>and about the relationship between citizenship, citizen rather and the government.

0:43:05.360 --> 0:43:10.239
<v Speaker 1>But now now Barr is coming up for there's coming

0:43:10.320 --> 0:43:14.120
<v Speaker 1>up for criticism because he wrote a memo, a memo

0:43:14.200 --> 0:43:15.759
<v Speaker 1>that said it was a nineteenth page meal that he

0:43:15.800 --> 0:43:20.080
<v Speaker 1>submitted unsolicited to Department of Justice in which he said, Okay,

0:43:20.120 --> 0:43:27.200
<v Speaker 1>look the obstruction construction that Mueller is working under. Here

0:43:27.520 --> 0:43:31.280
<v Speaker 1>this idea that it would be possible for Trump to

0:43:31.480 --> 0:43:35.600
<v Speaker 1>obstruct the Department of Justice by firing someone than he

0:43:35.640 --> 0:43:40.040
<v Speaker 1>can fire for any reason or no reason. This is

0:43:40.120 --> 0:43:44.560
<v Speaker 1>very important. He has a constitutional right to fire he

0:43:44.600 --> 0:43:47.480
<v Speaker 1>had one and has one to fire James Comy from

0:43:47.480 --> 0:43:51.160
<v Speaker 1>being the FBI director because he does not like Comy's tie,

0:43:52.239 --> 0:43:54.720
<v Speaker 1>which there are much better reasons not to like Comy,

0:43:54.800 --> 0:43:57.520
<v Speaker 1>but he could do that. So how are you going

0:43:57.600 --> 0:44:00.720
<v Speaker 1>to say that someone is obstructing justice by firing someone

0:44:00.760 --> 0:44:04.799
<v Speaker 1>that they can fire for any reason. You know, he's

0:44:05.040 --> 0:44:09.280
<v Speaker 1>he's correct, he is correct, and he also has a problem.

0:44:10.080 --> 0:44:12.759
<v Speaker 1>You know, this is all this this unsolicited memo that

0:44:12.760 --> 0:44:15.880
<v Speaker 1>he sent to the Justice Department. You know, he has

0:44:15.880 --> 0:44:20.400
<v Speaker 1>a problem with this notion that they can create a

0:44:20.719 --> 0:44:24.920
<v Speaker 1>legal protection for somebody within the Department of Justice that

0:44:24.920 --> 0:44:27.239
<v Speaker 1>would make them unfirable, that Congress could do that. No,

0:44:28.760 --> 0:44:33.719
<v Speaker 1>you cannot do that. That that is violating the separation

0:44:33.800 --> 0:44:38.480
<v Speaker 1>of powers. But because he has these good faith legal

0:44:38.560 --> 0:44:41.919
<v Speaker 1>objections to what's going on that he voiced, now they're

0:44:41.920 --> 0:44:44.240
<v Speaker 1>saying that that he's They're gonna say he's an unfit

0:44:44.280 --> 0:44:48.000
<v Speaker 1>attorney general. Meanwhile, we all know that if he had

0:44:48.000 --> 0:44:51.440
<v Speaker 1>said the special Counsel is doing great work, it's it's fantastic,

0:44:51.880 --> 0:44:55.319
<v Speaker 1>and Muller is above reproach, they would say that that's

0:44:55.320 --> 0:44:58.239
<v Speaker 1>all fine, But isn't that unfair to the administration in

0:44:58.280 --> 0:45:01.200
<v Speaker 1>some way. Right, Well, why is it that any criticism

0:45:01.239 --> 0:45:05.480
<v Speaker 1>of what the Democrats like must be recused or is

0:45:05.560 --> 0:45:09.440
<v Speaker 1>recusal worthy? But support of things that they like, support

0:45:09.440 --> 0:45:12.359
<v Speaker 1>of their position is just what is what is right?

0:45:13.600 --> 0:45:15.680
<v Speaker 1>You know that that's what needs to be. That's the

0:45:15.719 --> 0:45:20.640
<v Speaker 1>way things should be. And we all with Whittaker. Speaking

0:45:20.640 --> 0:45:23.560
<v Speaker 1>of recusal, there's a story out today in the Washington

0:45:23.560 --> 0:45:26.320
<v Speaker 1>Post that says, remember, he's just the acting Attorney General.

0:45:26.400 --> 0:45:29.160
<v Speaker 1>Barr is supposed to replace him when he can get

0:45:29.160 --> 0:45:32.160
<v Speaker 1>sent a confirmation in the new year, and there's gonna

0:45:32.160 --> 0:45:34.960
<v Speaker 1>be oh, get ready for you know, I am Spartak

0:45:35.080 --> 0:45:36.799
<v Speaker 1>is Part two with Corey Booker. I mean, there's gonna

0:45:36.800 --> 0:45:39.040
<v Speaker 1>be a lot of grandstanding from the Democrats there. They're

0:45:39.040 --> 0:45:45.160
<v Speaker 1>gonna really strutting their stuff. But Whittaker isn't recusing himself

0:45:45.160 --> 0:45:48.319
<v Speaker 1>from the Russia collusion probe, and Democrats are all upset

0:45:48.320 --> 0:45:51.200
<v Speaker 1>about that. Meanwhile, I'm sitting here saying they have nothing

0:45:51.239 --> 0:45:53.920
<v Speaker 1>to be upset about in any in any normal universe,

0:45:54.320 --> 0:46:00.279
<v Speaker 1>because there is absolutely nothing, absolutely nothing that Whittaker is

0:46:00.320 --> 0:46:02.879
<v Speaker 1>going to do that would shut down this or or

0:46:02.880 --> 0:46:05.239
<v Speaker 1>will stop this. At this point, it's too late in

0:46:05.280 --> 0:46:08.560
<v Speaker 1>the game. But special counsels can drag on for years

0:46:08.600 --> 0:46:12.160
<v Speaker 1>and years and years, you know, just looking and looking

0:46:12.239 --> 0:46:14.640
<v Speaker 1>and looking. I mean, this is what prosecutors do. This

0:46:14.719 --> 0:46:21.120
<v Speaker 1>is the prosecutorial mindset. So when a DOJ official has

0:46:21.160 --> 0:46:25.920
<v Speaker 1>opinions that don't line up with what Democrats want, there's

0:46:25.960 --> 0:46:28.160
<v Speaker 1>a problem. It's unethical. They're not allowed to hold that

0:46:28.200 --> 0:46:30.120
<v Speaker 1>different opinion, but apply the law. This is the same

0:46:30.120 --> 0:46:33.560
<v Speaker 1>thing you see with Supreme Court nominees. There's no litmus

0:46:33.560 --> 0:46:37.319
<v Speaker 1>test that Democrats have for Supreme Court nominees except you

0:46:37.400 --> 0:46:40.520
<v Speaker 1>have to be pro abortion. You have to uphold the

0:46:41.360 --> 0:46:44.319
<v Speaker 1>moral and legal monstrosity that has Roe v. Wade. But

0:46:44.320 --> 0:46:47.640
<v Speaker 1>but there's no litmus tests. There's no ideological test for

0:46:47.680 --> 0:46:50.920
<v Speaker 1>Supreme Court nominees. We're seeing an ideological test for the

0:46:50.920 --> 0:46:54.120
<v Speaker 1>Attorney General. And the ideological test is you have to

0:46:54.200 --> 0:47:00.440
<v Speaker 1>be supportive of the insane Russia collusion conspiracy theory. You

0:47:00.520 --> 0:47:05.359
<v Speaker 1>have to be supportive of Muller's bare knuckle, take no prisoners,

0:47:05.520 --> 0:47:09.719
<v Speaker 1>highly politicized tactics. You have to be totally fine with

0:47:09.760 --> 0:47:14.800
<v Speaker 1>Sally Yates and McCabe and Comy coming up with completely

0:47:16.080 --> 0:47:20.560
<v Speaker 1>bizarre interpretations of law and circumstances to go after people

0:47:20.600 --> 0:47:25.000
<v Speaker 1>like General Flynn with the Logan Act or by saying

0:47:25.000 --> 0:47:27.200
<v Speaker 1>that he had been compromised, so now the Russians might

0:47:27.239 --> 0:47:30.440
<v Speaker 1>be able to blackmail Aman. And this was idiocy, idiocy

0:47:30.880 --> 0:47:35.160
<v Speaker 1>from these people. But you know, that's the way it is.

0:47:35.320 --> 0:47:38.680
<v Speaker 1>When democrats like it the person in power, you know,

0:47:38.680 --> 0:47:41.200
<v Speaker 1>when they like what the person in power thinks, they're

0:47:41.320 --> 0:47:44.120
<v Speaker 1>they're fit for the job. When they don't like something

0:47:44.160 --> 0:47:46.040
<v Speaker 1>that the person that's going to be in power or

0:47:46.080 --> 0:47:50.080
<v Speaker 1>have prosecutorial discretion says, then they're unfit for the job.

0:47:50.400 --> 0:47:54.279
<v Speaker 1>You see, that's what they say. Then they're unfit. And

0:47:54.560 --> 0:47:56.480
<v Speaker 1>then just reminds me of a of a dispute that

0:47:56.520 --> 0:47:59.759
<v Speaker 1>I've been having for the last day or so on Twitter,

0:48:00.160 --> 0:48:04.319
<v Speaker 1>the whole bunch of different journos and lawyers and so

0:48:04.400 --> 0:48:08.680
<v Speaker 1>called NATZEC experts national security experts. I just keep saying,

0:48:09.239 --> 0:48:11.719
<v Speaker 1>and this is not this is not a complicated or

0:48:11.760 --> 0:48:16.360
<v Speaker 1>controversial point of view, but I know this to be

0:48:16.400 --> 0:48:20.880
<v Speaker 1>true and feel very strongly about it, that they that

0:48:21.040 --> 0:48:27.200
<v Speaker 1>nobody should subject themselves to FBI questioning without counsel, essentially

0:48:27.239 --> 0:48:29.160
<v Speaker 1>without having a lawyer present, or at least getting a

0:48:29.200 --> 0:48:32.880
<v Speaker 1>lawyer's advice about what's going on. No one should do that.

0:48:33.000 --> 0:48:35.920
<v Speaker 1>It is unwise. And you get all these people coming

0:48:35.920 --> 0:48:37.680
<v Speaker 1>out and we'll work, Oh, why are you making excuses

0:48:37.719 --> 0:48:39.840
<v Speaker 1>for Flynn? And it's so stupid. Why are you doing that?

0:48:39.920 --> 0:48:42.640
<v Speaker 1>Or just don't look, just don't lie, just don't lie.

0:48:43.480 --> 0:48:46.160
<v Speaker 1>I say to them, Well, if the answers just don't lie,

0:48:47.080 --> 0:48:49.720
<v Speaker 1>why does anybody have a lawyer when they go for

0:48:49.800 --> 0:48:54.520
<v Speaker 1>an interrogation with the FBI? Just don't lie. Maybe there's

0:48:54.560 --> 0:48:56.960
<v Speaker 1>something else that they should be aware of, which is

0:48:56.960 --> 0:49:01.000
<v Speaker 1>that the FBI, because of the nature of what they're

0:49:01.040 --> 0:49:04.480
<v Speaker 1>doing and the power they have, is a threat to

0:49:04.640 --> 0:49:09.520
<v Speaker 1>people who intend to tell the truth but can get

0:49:09.520 --> 0:49:13.240
<v Speaker 1>caught up in the heat of the moment in an interrogation,

0:49:13.680 --> 0:49:17.000
<v Speaker 1>can have a memory lapse, And the amount of faith

0:49:17.040 --> 0:49:20.239
<v Speaker 1>and trust that liberals all of a sudden give to

0:49:20.320 --> 0:49:23.520
<v Speaker 1>these institutions of law enforcement the federal level that have

0:49:23.719 --> 0:49:29.680
<v Speaker 1>so much power is jaw dropping. Keep in mind, the

0:49:29.719 --> 0:49:31.799
<v Speaker 1>only record of the Flynn conversation we have is what

0:49:31.840 --> 0:49:34.080
<v Speaker 1>the FBI says it is. And now they're saying it,

0:49:34.920 --> 0:49:38.680
<v Speaker 1>you know how, many months after the fact, but it's

0:49:38.719 --> 0:49:43.200
<v Speaker 1>it's now controversial. They hate Flynn and Trump so much

0:49:43.520 --> 0:49:46.320
<v Speaker 1>that me saying get a lawyer, don't talk to the FBI,

0:49:46.600 --> 0:49:49.239
<v Speaker 1>which any defense attorney in the country who is not

0:49:49.400 --> 0:49:54.680
<v Speaker 1>a complete moron will tell you is sound advice. They

0:49:54.719 --> 0:49:56.839
<v Speaker 1>come after me, they pile on and they say, oh,

0:49:56.920 --> 0:50:00.920
<v Speaker 1>you're you're one of those lackeys for Flynn. No telling everybody.

0:50:01.000 --> 0:50:04.320
<v Speaker 1>Don't speak to the FBI without a lawyer, don't try

0:50:04.320 --> 0:50:06.520
<v Speaker 1>to get cute. Don't think that you're going to be

0:50:06.520 --> 0:50:09.680
<v Speaker 1>doing some great public service if they are interrogating you

0:50:11.280 --> 0:50:14.840
<v Speaker 1>have a lawyer. President, This is sound advice. Do not

0:50:15.000 --> 0:50:17.759
<v Speaker 1>listen to the idiots out there that think that this

0:50:17.840 --> 0:50:21.399
<v Speaker 1>is about General Flynn. Flynt just raises the issue. It's

0:50:21.400 --> 0:50:24.880
<v Speaker 1>a bigger issue, and it's one that you will be

0:50:25.000 --> 0:50:30.560
<v Speaker 1>very well served if you listen to me on Well,

0:50:30.600 --> 0:50:33.160
<v Speaker 1>this is a very bold move for President Trump. It's

0:50:33.200 --> 0:50:36.120
<v Speaker 1>exactly what he promised the American people. In fact, it's

0:50:36.160 --> 0:50:38.120
<v Speaker 1>one of the reasons he won the election, that said

0:50:38.120 --> 0:50:40.719
<v Speaker 1>he's different than so many Republicans that want to be

0:50:40.840 --> 0:50:43.440
<v Speaker 1>everywhere all the time around the world, that they want

0:50:43.480 --> 0:50:46.080
<v Speaker 1>us to be the world's policeman, that every war on

0:50:46.120 --> 0:50:48.560
<v Speaker 1>the planet, we've got to have our soldiers involved with

0:50:48.760 --> 0:50:51.320
<v Speaker 1>President Trump said he was going to treat America first,

0:50:51.600 --> 0:50:53.600
<v Speaker 1>and so I think bringing some of that money home,

0:50:53.960 --> 0:50:57.040
<v Speaker 1>whether it goes towards border security, whether it goes towards

0:50:57.040 --> 0:50:59.440
<v Speaker 1>building bridges and roads in our country. See, I think

0:50:59.440 --> 0:51:01.440
<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of independent voters, a lot of

0:51:01.440 --> 0:51:06.439
<v Speaker 1>people in the middle and these states that President Trump won, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin,

0:51:06.800 --> 0:51:09.560
<v Speaker 1>these are states had no other Republican one because they

0:51:09.600 --> 0:51:11.640
<v Speaker 1>want to be at war everywhere all the time. President

0:51:11.680 --> 0:51:13.719
<v Speaker 1>Trump said, We're going to fight when we have to,

0:51:14.120 --> 0:51:15.960
<v Speaker 1>but when we win, we're gonna come home. It's an

0:51:16.000 --> 0:51:19.719
<v Speaker 1>incredibly bold maneuver. All of the naysayers in Washington will

0:51:19.719 --> 0:51:21.560
<v Speaker 1>be against him. But guess what if you ask the

0:51:21.600 --> 0:51:24.360
<v Speaker 1>American people, this is why President Trump won the election.

0:51:24.640 --> 0:51:28.200
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't agree more with the president's decision. Look, by definition,

0:51:28.239 --> 0:51:30.879
<v Speaker 1>this is the opposite of an Obama decision. Obama got

0:51:30.920 --> 0:51:33.840
<v Speaker 1>us involved. Trump's taken us out. Congress has never declared

0:51:33.880 --> 0:51:36.800
<v Speaker 1>war or authorize the use of military force in Syria.

0:51:36.840 --> 0:51:42.600
<v Speaker 1>We shouldn't be there anyway. The pullout from Syria getting

0:51:42.600 --> 0:51:44.600
<v Speaker 1>a lot of attention, and I have to say I

0:51:44.680 --> 0:51:49.439
<v Speaker 1>was a little bit concerned initially that this was, if

0:51:49.480 --> 0:51:55.480
<v Speaker 1>not intentionally, at least in reality, distracting from the discussion

0:51:55.520 --> 0:51:59.000
<v Speaker 1>that we need to be having about the shutdown and

0:51:59.080 --> 0:52:01.000
<v Speaker 1>the border wall. Right, that all of a sudden there

0:52:01.040 --> 0:52:03.960
<v Speaker 1>was all this focus on what's going on in and

0:52:04.000 --> 0:52:08.040
<v Speaker 1>around Rocca instead of what's going on you know, in

0:52:08.120 --> 0:52:13.600
<v Speaker 1>and around uh, you know, Laredo and the different sectors

0:52:13.680 --> 0:52:17.239
<v Speaker 1>of of the of the border. Um. Well, I was

0:52:17.280 --> 0:52:19.000
<v Speaker 1>just trying to think of some place I couldn't think

0:52:19.000 --> 0:52:21.040
<v Speaker 1>of anywhere with an R along the border of the

0:52:21.160 --> 0:52:24.360
<v Speaker 1>off the fly, and I know Laredo is you know,

0:52:24.400 --> 0:52:26.000
<v Speaker 1>you're like, why why do you go to that one? Buck?

0:52:26.040 --> 0:52:27.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. It just came to mind because I

0:52:27.920 --> 0:52:31.279
<v Speaker 1>probably should have said, what's what, John, what's the the

0:52:31.440 --> 0:52:34.719
<v Speaker 1>city that's across from Warez. That's the one I was

0:52:34.719 --> 0:52:36.759
<v Speaker 1>trying to think of, you know, what's across from you know,

0:52:36.800 --> 0:52:39.840
<v Speaker 1>the one that's right there? Isn't that? Uh? El Paso?

0:52:39.920 --> 0:52:42.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know El Paso? Thank you, John, you know

0:52:43.120 --> 0:52:46.080
<v Speaker 1>good Man, good man. Um. But there's been all this

0:52:46.200 --> 0:52:48.880
<v Speaker 1>focus on Syria. So I want to in the in

0:52:48.920 --> 0:52:53.280
<v Speaker 1>the spirit of giving you as as much worthwhile information

0:52:53.320 --> 0:52:54.719
<v Speaker 1>as I can. I mean, I want to tell you

0:52:54.800 --> 0:52:58.200
<v Speaker 1>what the the upside is of pulling out of Syria

0:52:58.200 --> 0:52:59.920
<v Speaker 1>and the downside as a pulling out of Syria. But

0:53:00.120 --> 0:53:03.080
<v Speaker 1>I'll start with the with the upside of it. And

0:53:03.520 --> 0:53:05.759
<v Speaker 1>I think that there he had two Senators Mike Lee

0:53:05.800 --> 0:53:08.839
<v Speaker 1>and Rampaul, who were saying that just on a on

0:53:08.840 --> 0:53:15.560
<v Speaker 1>a principle level, we shouldn't be involved in endless conflicts

0:53:15.640 --> 0:53:18.799
<v Speaker 1>all over the world, in places where there has been

0:53:18.800 --> 0:53:23.640
<v Speaker 1>no congressional authorization and in places where or you know,

0:53:23.800 --> 0:53:28.120
<v Speaker 1>us interests are are limited at best. And right now,

0:53:28.160 --> 0:53:31.719
<v Speaker 1>I understand it's easy to it's easy enough to look

0:53:31.719 --> 0:53:33.880
<v Speaker 1>at what's going on in Syria and to say, you

0:53:33.920 --> 0:53:38.759
<v Speaker 1>know what, the truth is that in Syria, you know,

0:53:38.800 --> 0:53:41.640
<v Speaker 1>we're we're not taking a lot of casualties, we're not

0:53:42.600 --> 0:53:46.279
<v Speaker 1>doing a ton of frontline combat. I mean, I know

0:53:46.320 --> 0:53:49.520
<v Speaker 1>there's stuff going on with special operations, but we're you know,

0:53:49.520 --> 0:53:53.120
<v Speaker 1>it's not like we're moving division level units around in theater.

0:53:53.239 --> 0:53:55.560
<v Speaker 1>And so it's easy to start to think, well, this,

0:53:55.560 --> 0:53:58.879
<v Speaker 1>this is relatively low cost, at least in terms of

0:53:59.360 --> 0:54:01.799
<v Speaker 1>our soul or getting wounded or killed, which is the

0:54:01.840 --> 0:54:05.600
<v Speaker 1>single most important consideration about these kinds of deployments that

0:54:05.640 --> 0:54:09.600
<v Speaker 1>we should have. And I just remind everyone that all

0:54:09.640 --> 0:54:14.440
<v Speaker 1>it takes is one big truck bomb to get parked

0:54:14.520 --> 0:54:17.160
<v Speaker 1>or you know, driven into a facility with US troops,

0:54:17.160 --> 0:54:19.320
<v Speaker 1>and you could lose one hundred, two hundred five hundred

0:54:19.360 --> 0:54:22.520
<v Speaker 1>troops in one day. I mean, that has happened before.

0:54:22.600 --> 0:54:27.160
<v Speaker 1>Think back to Reagan's intervention in Lebanon, right next door

0:54:27.239 --> 0:54:31.200
<v Speaker 1>to Syria in the Levant, and Reagan ended up pulling out.

0:54:31.360 --> 0:54:32.960
<v Speaker 1>We're like, you know what this is. This is a

0:54:33.080 --> 0:54:35.479
<v Speaker 1>nasty civil war. This is not our thing where we're out.

0:54:36.560 --> 0:54:38.600
<v Speaker 1>And I think that under the circumstances, he made the

0:54:38.680 --> 0:54:43.320
<v Speaker 1>right move. We could always make a case to stay forever.

0:54:43.600 --> 0:54:45.440
<v Speaker 1>You know, we could always make the case that American

0:54:45.440 --> 0:54:49.319
<v Speaker 1>troops will make a country safer than it would otherwise be.

0:54:49.520 --> 0:54:51.000
<v Speaker 1>We can make a case that it would make it

0:54:51.400 --> 0:54:55.239
<v Speaker 1>less likely for a vacuum to be filled by nefarious

0:54:55.239 --> 0:54:58.360
<v Speaker 1>outside actors. And I want to I'm going to continue

0:54:58.400 --> 0:54:59.880
<v Speaker 1>on with this in in just a moment to he

0:55:00.120 --> 0:55:05.480
<v Speaker 1>so stay with me. This is a huge strategic mistake

0:55:06.160 --> 0:55:09.239
<v Speaker 1>that I hope the President is willing to reconsider, and

0:55:09.360 --> 0:55:12.840
<v Speaker 1>if he does not, I believe with some degree of

0:55:12.880 --> 0:55:16.600
<v Speaker 1>confidence that he'll come to regret this decision. I mean, clearly,

0:55:17.040 --> 0:55:20.759
<v Speaker 1>we're repeating the Obama mistake of premature withdrawal, which got

0:55:20.840 --> 0:55:26.800
<v Speaker 1>us ISIS. It is a misstatement to say that ISIS

0:55:27.360 --> 0:55:32.040
<v Speaker 1>is defeated in Syria. What is accurate is we have

0:55:32.160 --> 0:55:35.879
<v Speaker 1>destroyed their safe haven in Rocca, and we have now

0:55:35.920 --> 0:55:39.719
<v Speaker 1>taken down a town of Hajiene, which we ISIS put

0:55:39.760 --> 0:55:42.960
<v Speaker 1>up a fight for over two months, which demonstrates their

0:55:43.000 --> 0:55:47.520
<v Speaker 1>determination and resilience, and they have there's remnants of ISIS

0:55:47.560 --> 0:55:51.399
<v Speaker 1>still in the area. In my judgment, we need to

0:55:51.440 --> 0:55:55.400
<v Speaker 1>stick to it and finish the job, all right. So

0:55:55.480 --> 0:55:58.800
<v Speaker 1>let's get to the other side of this, this Syria

0:55:58.920 --> 0:56:04.839
<v Speaker 1>withdrawal decision, and that is the possibility that this will

0:56:04.920 --> 0:56:07.120
<v Speaker 1>lead to a rebound with the Islamic State and then

0:56:07.160 --> 0:56:09.880
<v Speaker 1>we'll be dealing with the nightmare once again of a

0:56:09.960 --> 0:56:12.640
<v Speaker 1>caliphate that, remember, wasn't just a threat to the region,

0:56:12.920 --> 0:56:16.919
<v Speaker 1>but very quickly turned into a launch pad for international

0:56:17.040 --> 0:56:20.600
<v Speaker 1>terrorist attacks, including some of the mass casualty attacks that

0:56:20.640 --> 0:56:25.760
<v Speaker 1>happened in Europe and the inspiration for mass casualty attacks

0:56:25.800 --> 0:56:27.960
<v Speaker 1>like the one in San Bernardino, California, the one at

0:56:27.960 --> 0:56:32.480
<v Speaker 1>the Pulse nightclub in Florida, here on US soil. That

0:56:33.520 --> 0:56:38.280
<v Speaker 1>beacon of jihad in Syria that the Islamic State formed

0:56:39.520 --> 0:56:42.920
<v Speaker 1>had a very bloody cost, well outside of the Syrian

0:56:42.960 --> 0:56:47.760
<v Speaker 1>theater of operations. So I understand that threat in that concern.

0:56:48.920 --> 0:56:52.400
<v Speaker 1>That's the primary reason that I think people are worried

0:56:52.440 --> 0:56:56.000
<v Speaker 1>about US pulling out from Syria too quickly. Now, I

0:56:56.040 --> 0:56:58.240
<v Speaker 1>do believe that it would be possible to phase out,

0:56:58.680 --> 0:57:01.080
<v Speaker 1>and that's what the President may say. Right he said

0:57:01.080 --> 0:57:03.919
<v Speaker 1>all right, we're pulling out. I think he's going to

0:57:04.400 --> 0:57:06.879
<v Speaker 1>revisit this and say, we are pulling out, but we'll

0:57:06.920 --> 0:57:09.759
<v Speaker 1>give this, you know, two months to get down by

0:57:09.800 --> 0:57:12.239
<v Speaker 1>a thousand, another, you know, month to get down by

0:57:12.239 --> 0:57:15.680
<v Speaker 1>five hundred. I think he's going to do a phased withdrawal.

0:57:15.960 --> 0:57:18.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't believe. And this is just my it's just

0:57:18.880 --> 0:57:21.000
<v Speaker 1>my gut. I don't believe that he's going to say

0:57:21.000 --> 0:57:22.800
<v Speaker 1>all right, everybody, you're out of there, You're you're done,

0:57:24.400 --> 0:57:28.600
<v Speaker 1>because there could be some some bad ramifications to that,

0:57:28.640 --> 0:57:30.320
<v Speaker 1>which is what we're talking about now. Right on the

0:57:30.360 --> 0:57:34.040
<v Speaker 1>plus side, we shouldn't be fight uh, you know, we

0:57:34.160 --> 0:57:36.480
<v Speaker 1>we've done a lot to defeat the Islamic state, this

0:57:36.840 --> 0:57:38.400
<v Speaker 1>and this is there's a lot of debate about this

0:57:38.400 --> 0:57:41.080
<v Speaker 1>because the President said, you know, we've defeated ISIS, and

0:57:41.200 --> 0:57:43.160
<v Speaker 1>now you've got all these people who are coming out

0:57:43.160 --> 0:57:46.439
<v Speaker 1>of the woodwork and saying, no, we haven't defeated IIS. Yes.

0:57:46.600 --> 0:57:49.600
<v Speaker 1>The estimate of the standing strength of the Islamic States

0:57:49.600 --> 0:57:53.200
<v Speaker 1>fighters about twenty to thirty thousand, which is pretty close

0:57:53.240 --> 0:57:56.760
<v Speaker 1>to what it was at the start of the blitz.

0:57:56.840 --> 0:58:00.280
<v Speaker 1>Creek into a rock from Syria nextdoor buy the Islamics State,

0:58:00.640 --> 0:58:05.200
<v Speaker 1>but the territory is much smaller, which means their ability

0:58:05.280 --> 0:58:09.240
<v Speaker 1>to draw upon resources and to terrorize civilian populations as

0:58:09.320 --> 0:58:11.600
<v Speaker 1>much less than it was. They are a much more

0:58:11.920 --> 0:58:17.200
<v Speaker 1>contained threat than they were. And if if defeat is eradication,

0:58:17.840 --> 0:58:20.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm here to tell you that we're never going to

0:58:20.320 --> 0:58:23.720
<v Speaker 1>get there. I mean not in any reasonable timeframe. If

0:58:24.080 --> 0:58:27.040
<v Speaker 1>the defeat of the Islamic State is something that we

0:58:27.080 --> 0:58:30.480
<v Speaker 1>could only we could only claim when there is nobody

0:58:30.920 --> 0:58:34.320
<v Speaker 1>who is an adherent of ISIS and its ideology left,

0:58:34.640 --> 0:58:37.120
<v Speaker 1>when everyone has either been captured, killed, taken off the

0:58:37.120 --> 0:58:39.840
<v Speaker 1>battlefield one way or another. Then we're going to be

0:58:39.880 --> 0:58:44.800
<v Speaker 1>fighting in Syria for the next twenty years. So that's

0:58:44.840 --> 0:58:49.280
<v Speaker 1>that's say, you know that that's an unrealistic definition of

0:58:49.440 --> 0:58:54.920
<v Speaker 1>what success in Syria would be. That's an unrealistic version.

0:58:55.320 --> 0:58:59.200
<v Speaker 1>And we have taken Roca other capital, and this has

0:58:59.240 --> 0:59:04.000
<v Speaker 1>been done large because of the Kurds. Now there's another

0:59:04.000 --> 0:59:06.120
<v Speaker 1>component of this. I mean, you've got the vacuum issue.

0:59:06.920 --> 0:59:08.480
<v Speaker 1>What would happen if we pull out too quickly and

0:59:08.520 --> 0:59:11.160
<v Speaker 1>then all of a sudden there's space for ices to

0:59:11.280 --> 0:59:15.280
<v Speaker 1>rearm and re equip and start terrorizing villages in the area,

0:59:15.400 --> 0:59:18.480
<v Speaker 1>taking back territory. But keep in mind they have ASSAD

0:59:19.120 --> 0:59:24.720
<v Speaker 1>and Russia and Iran backing ASSAD also pressuring the Islamic State,

0:59:25.280 --> 0:59:27.400
<v Speaker 1>so it's not like they would just be able to

0:59:27.800 --> 0:59:33.080
<v Speaker 1>overrun the whole country. The Syrian Defense Force Syrian Defense Forces,

0:59:33.120 --> 0:59:37.000
<v Speaker 1>the SDP is about seventy thousand people right now. I mean,

0:59:37.040 --> 0:59:39.439
<v Speaker 1>they've got a considerable fighting force that's had a lot

0:59:39.440 --> 0:59:46.720
<v Speaker 1>of US assistance and military tutelage, so that is hopefully

0:59:46.760 --> 0:59:51.560
<v Speaker 1>able to keep things from boiling over in Syria. But

0:59:51.800 --> 0:59:54.680
<v Speaker 1>then there's there's an additional layer. Right talking about Syria,

0:59:54.680 --> 0:59:56.440
<v Speaker 1>talking to the civil War, there's a lot of complexity here.

0:59:56.480 --> 0:59:59.240
<v Speaker 1>There's an additional layer, and that is. How does Turkey

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<v Speaker 1>are so called NATO ally right? I mean they're an

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<v Speaker 1>ally kind of Turkey. Uh. People who've been listening for

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<v Speaker 1>a long time. No, I've had I've had problems with

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<v Speaker 1>the Turkish government, Turkish regime for a very long time.

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<v Speaker 1>The Turks have been They're not quite at the Pakistan

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<v Speaker 1>level of friend of me, but they're trending in that direction.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they do some things that are helpful, they

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<v Speaker 1>do a lot of things that are not helpful, and

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<v Speaker 1>they are far too cozy with Islamists and extremists in

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<v Speaker 1>the whole region. So and they have and they have

1:00:31.800 --> 1:00:35.920
<v Speaker 1>grandiose ambitions for Turkish regional hegemony. Don't don't think they don't.

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<v Speaker 1>The Turks have a very high opinion of their importance

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<v Speaker 1>to the to the Mid East, and to the Mediterranean basin.

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<v Speaker 1>But Lindsey Graham and Bob Corker raised another concern here,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's about Turkey. Play play clip five. Iran's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be really happy and the Isis folks have got a

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<v Speaker 1>shot in the arm and Turkey is licking their chops.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're an American who believes that we need keep

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<v Speaker 1>the war over there, not here, bad day for you.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're all just in shock that we would

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<v Speaker 1>leave the FDF hanging, the Kurds and others who've been

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<v Speaker 1>doing what they're doing, to leave them to basically Assad

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<v Speaker 1>and to Turkey. Now. I have a degree of a

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<v Speaker 1>particular degree of respect and even some nostalgia for my

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<v Speaker 1>time with the Kurds, and I know that the Kurdish

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<v Speaker 1>people have been allies to the US in Iraq and

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<v Speaker 1>now in Syria when we really needed allies on the

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<v Speaker 1>ground in the region, and the Kurds will fight bravely.

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<v Speaker 1>The Kurds have been operating a civilized sector of Iraq

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<v Speaker 1>even through the worst parts of the insurgency. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you could go to Kurdistan, which is not officially a place,

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<v Speaker 1>but it might as well be. You spend time in

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<v Speaker 1>places like Urbil or Sulimania, and you might as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the Church would like this. We might as

1:02:03.080 --> 1:02:05.840
<v Speaker 1>well be in Turkey in terms of safety and you know,

1:02:05.880 --> 1:02:10.320
<v Speaker 1>the overall feeling of the place. And that's a testament

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<v Speaker 1>to the Kurdish people. They've been very strong counter terrorism

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<v Speaker 1>allies with us. They've been doing a lot for us

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<v Speaker 1>for a very long time. And I think we have

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<v Speaker 1>a debt of honor to the Kurdish people, and the

1:02:23.680 --> 1:02:29.200
<v Speaker 1>Turks hate the Kurds. This stretches back for many decades.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a longstanding ethnic and cultural conflict. And there's been

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<v Speaker 1>a Turkish separatist I mean a Kurdish separatist movement in

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<v Speaker 1>southern Turkey that's claimed many thousands of lives over the

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<v Speaker 1>over decades fighting against them. The you know, the PKK,

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<v Speaker 1>they're kind of a Marxist separatist group, and the Turks

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<v Speaker 1>are just get apoplectic about them. They say they're terrorists,

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<v Speaker 1>just like any other terrorist group. Meanwhile, the militia that

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<v Speaker 1>we're fighting with on the ground in Syria, the Turks

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<v Speaker 1>say it is essentially this this Turkish, this Turkish i'm sorry,

1:03:05.640 --> 1:03:09.200
<v Speaker 1>Kurdish terrorist group. We say, no, that's not fair, and

1:03:09.520 --> 1:03:12.280
<v Speaker 1>and these guys are doing great fighting against the Islamic State.

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<v Speaker 1>So there is this concern that the Turks, if we

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<v Speaker 1>don't have US troops there, the Turks are just going

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<v Speaker 1>to come in and have a real incursion and kill

1:03:22.400 --> 1:03:24.960
<v Speaker 1>a lot of our Kurdish friends on the ground. And

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<v Speaker 1>I find that unacceptable. But if we don't have US

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<v Speaker 1>troops there, because here's the thing the Turks launch an

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<v Speaker 1>air strike at a at a US Kurdish base in

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<v Speaker 1>Syria and they kill some of our people, they have

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<v Speaker 1>a massive problem on their hands and they know that.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, the next time a Turkish plane flies

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<v Speaker 1>over Syrian sky, it's it's probably not gonna let's just say,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not gonna land as planned. The Turks know that.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's you know, that's the the bulwark, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>safety measure that's in place there for a Kurdish allies.

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<v Speaker 1>If we pull out US troops. Now, now the Turks

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden might say, you know what, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>America is going to complain about it. But as long

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<v Speaker 1>as we don't kill any of their people on the ground,

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<v Speaker 1>if we're just killing Kurds, that's our problem. We care

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<v Speaker 1>about it more. And you know, Er Towan is a

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<v Speaker 1>very unsteady allies. So so I understand that concern, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very sympathetic to that concern because I think that

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<v Speaker 1>we show you know, we show allies one because of honor,

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<v Speaker 1>but also because of the optics of it to the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of our allies in the region around the world.

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<v Speaker 1>How we treat them matters, you know, what we do

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<v Speaker 1>to our allies, real allies that are doing fighting, they're

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<v Speaker 1>taking losses, fighting side by side with our people. It

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<v Speaker 1>matters how we treat them. So that that that's a

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<v Speaker 1>that's a that's a sticky issue, that's a complicating factor

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<v Speaker 1>in this whole Syria withdrawal issue. And you know, then

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<v Speaker 1>you've got Rubio and Graham who are just completely utterly

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<v Speaker 1>opposed to this and say it's a horrible idea. Play eight.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe it is a catastrophic mistake that will have

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<v Speaker 1>grave consequences for the United States, for our interests, and

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<v Speaker 1>for our allies in the months and years to come.

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<v Speaker 1>To those who say we have defeated ISIS in Syria,

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<v Speaker 1>that is a inaccurate statement. They have been hurt, they

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<v Speaker 1>have been degraded. And I give the President all the

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<v Speaker 1>credit in the world for changing our policies regarding the

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<v Speaker 1>fight against ISIS, but I will not buy into the

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<v Speaker 1>narrative that they have been defeated in Syria Iraq. Defeat

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<v Speaker 1>is not something you're really going to see with an

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<v Speaker 1>insurgency like this. Suppression and stabilization is what you should

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<v Speaker 1>be shooting for. I think that Trump is right on

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<v Speaker 1>the strategy. I think he might be wrong on the timing,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning we should begin to think about withdrawing US troops

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<v Speaker 1>from Syria and put in place how that's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it, and people should know that that's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the people that are involved there should understand

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<v Speaker 1>that they're going to be coming home, and we will

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<v Speaker 1>have troops next door in Iraq. If things really spile

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<v Speaker 1>out of control, we get five thousand troops in Iraq,

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<v Speaker 1>can launch air strikes, can go all kinds of things.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm sure that even if we officially withdraw, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>probably have some some folks left behind to work with

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<v Speaker 1>our allies that just aren't particularly publicized in Syria. But

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<v Speaker 1>Trump is right to stop this mentality of we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to be in these countries forever. We got other things

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<v Speaker 1>to do, other places to have our people. We should

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<v Speaker 1>not fall into this trap of endless war in countless places.

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe give it a couple more months. I think

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<v Speaker 1>Trump may do that, but by and large, we do

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<v Speaker 1>need to come out of Syria. And he's getting bad advice.

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<v Speaker 1>They know that he's promised not once, not twice, but

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<v Speaker 1>three different times that he would get border wall funding.

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<v Speaker 1>And here we are about to punt, and I would

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<v Speaker 1>argue it's not a punt. A punt actually helps improve

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<v Speaker 1>the field advantage. This is a fumble, and we need

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure that the President stays firm. And a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people are very nervous this morning about whether

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<v Speaker 1>the President will cave or not. We failed, we fumbled,

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<v Speaker 1>and I can tell you that the President was exactly

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<v Speaker 1>right on this. I talked to the President a week

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<v Speaker 1>ago and he says, Mark, what we need to do

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<v Speaker 1>is go ahead and pass something out of the House.

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<v Speaker 1>I got on the phone that morning, I talked to

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<v Speaker 1>Leader McCarthy, I talked to Speaker Ryan. I said, let's

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead and fund the wall. Whether it's five billion

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<v Speaker 1>or twenty five billion, let's go ahead and pass something

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<v Speaker 1>out of the House. And you know what we heard

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<v Speaker 1>from that nothing. We have more than twenty nine more

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<v Speaker 1>Republicans than Democrats. Last week, we could have passed and

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't. Could have passed it and didn't missed opportunities.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. The the truth is that you never want

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<v Speaker 1>to do what your enemy wants you to do. And

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<v Speaker 1>I know people say, oh, Puck, don't call the Democrats enemies,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. You don't do what your

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<v Speaker 1>opponent wants you to do if you plan on winning.

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<v Speaker 1>And the Democrats, sure as heck, do not want Trump

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<v Speaker 1>to get that wall because they know that if he

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<v Speaker 1>gets the wall, twenty twenty becomes a replay of twenty sixteen.

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<v Speaker 1>And if that happens, and you add the actual construction,

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<v Speaker 1>the ongoing construction of a wall into that situation, absence

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<v Speaker 1>some you know, horrific economic situation or you know who knows,

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<v Speaker 1>But in a in all likelihood, Trump will coast to victory.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump will probably even you know, I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>other states he'd pick up, but he might even win

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<v Speaker 1>everything he won in twenty sixteen, and add a couple

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<v Speaker 1>more into the mix. Certainly, certainly feasible, could certainly happen

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<v Speaker 1>that way. So that's why, you know, this is not

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<v Speaker 1>the time to get weak, kneed. This is not the

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<v Speaker 1>time for spines to go like jellyfish. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Mark Meadows understands that, and he knows that this

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<v Speaker 1>is this is the time to have this fight, and

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<v Speaker 1>that border security really matters. You know, We're just I

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<v Speaker 1>was just talking about about Syria, and I I can't

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<v Speaker 1>help but notice how many people whose whose role in

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<v Speaker 1>public life is to try and inform people and analyze

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on with our government, and they they are

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<v Speaker 1>so much more concerned with Syria and the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the threat to you know, our our allies in the region,

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<v Speaker 1>the threat to Israel, net Store, the Iranian expansion that

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<v Speaker 1>would occur if we so much more concerned about that

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<v Speaker 1>than what is going on at our border. And I

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<v Speaker 1>keep hitting on these points about look at what the

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<v Speaker 1>cartel activity is doing, Look at all the deaths. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>for every person that dies of a drug overdose, there

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<v Speaker 1>are a number of people whose lives are shattered, family members, spouses, children,

1:10:23.720 --> 1:10:28.599
<v Speaker 1>lives are shattered, you know, mothers and fathers that are

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<v Speaker 1>now walking around bearing those emotional, those psychological scars. Their

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<v Speaker 1>lives are never the same. I mean, the cost of

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<v Speaker 1>the situation the border to the American people is so

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<v Speaker 1>much greater than the stakes for what's happening in Syria.

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<v Speaker 1>And yet we're told that funding for Syria is a

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<v Speaker 1>funding for the wall. Rather, funding for the border is

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<v Speaker 1>a distraction, staying the course in Syria, staying the course

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<v Speaker 1>in Afghanistan too. That's more important than what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>on our own self border that's affecting lives across the

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<v Speaker 1>country every day, economically, politically, national security. I also have

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<v Speaker 1>seen this, this rumor that's getting some play today that

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<v Speaker 1>Trump also wants to pull troops out of Afghanistan. I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta tell you something, we are not going to win

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<v Speaker 1>the war in Afghanistan. If we think we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>eradicate the Taliban, It's never happening. It's not happening. So

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<v Speaker 1>the choices are status quo occupation for all time, essentially

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<v Speaker 1>established major military base or bases there and just keep

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<v Speaker 1>keep US troops there on an ongoing basis, or come home.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are the choice. There is no victory over the

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<v Speaker 1>Taliban not going to happen. Trump is willing to make

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<v Speaker 1>tough choices on this, I think, and it may take

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<v Speaker 1>someone as immune to the criticism of elites as Trump

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<v Speaker 1>a car chase, and a shootout with police. Please stick

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<v Speaker 1>up these high on drugs on Friday. Seeing his prior

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<v Speaker 1>deportations I issued a detainer, but ten hours later the

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<v Speaker 1>sheriff released him because the sanctuary law banned him from

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<v Speaker 1>honoring that entertainer released where we stole three hundred rounds

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<v Speaker 1>have happened, says the sheriff without this law that prohibited

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<v Speaker 1>released has been removed from our hands. And because of that,

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<v Speaker 1>our county was shot up by a violent criminal. They

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<v Speaker 1>could have easily been prevented had we had the opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to reach out to our fellow counterparts. You mean that

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<v Speaker 1>sanctuary city policies come with a cost. Illegal immigration isn't

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<v Speaker 1>just about an endless flow of hard working, god fearing

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<v Speaker 1>valedictorians that if you don't want here, you are a

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<v Speaker 1>heartless evil heathen. What a surprise? Well what does this

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<v Speaker 1>tell us? What should we be disgusted when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to immigration in the border. I want to bring somebody

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<v Speaker 1>on who's down in Texas so he can give us

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<v Speaker 1>his perspective on things. The one and only Jesse Kelly.

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<v Speaker 1>He is a former Marine also former Congressional candidate, and

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<v Speaker 1>he hosts a wonderful radio show himself on nine fifty

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<v Speaker 1>KPRC in Houston, the Jesse Kelly Show. Jesse, good to

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<v Speaker 1>have you back. It's great to be here man. And

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<v Speaker 1>it is extra bad, extra horrible when somebody who's not

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be here does something terrible to a citizen

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<v Speaker 1>in this country, multiple citizens. And it's extra extra bad

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<v Speaker 1>when you realize that we actually had him, we had

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<v Speaker 1>him in our hands, and insane liberal laws kicked him

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<v Speaker 1>right back out on the street to kill again. And

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<v Speaker 1>none of these people are ever held accountable for what

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<v Speaker 1>they do. Well, that's that's exactly where we're want to

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<v Speaker 1>go of this is that I keep trying to to

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<v Speaker 1>hammer this point that liberals start with a fundamentally false

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<v Speaker 1>premise on illegal immigration, and that is that there is

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<v Speaker 1>no downside to this, and it's it's a it's astonishing,

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<v Speaker 1>Jesse because when you when you push them on specific issues,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, yeah, you'll get them to admit You'll get

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<v Speaker 1>them to admit that, Okay, sure, there are some MS

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen members that come into the country, there's some drug

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<v Speaker 1>cartel activity, but they always start from this premise of

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<v Speaker 1>no, no no, no, this is this is a good thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when you look at sanctuary city policy, you

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<v Speaker 1>look at what's going on at the border day in

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<v Speaker 1>and day out with people who are coming in in

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<v Speaker 1>abusing the system, claiming asylum who shouldn't get it. There

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<v Speaker 1>are a lot of costs here, and yet the other

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<v Speaker 1>side never even discusses the costs. I mean, you'll notice this.

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<v Speaker 1>You never hear Democrats say, you know what, you're right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's putting a strain on some communities to have so

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<v Speaker 1>many illegal immigrants coming in. It's hurting Americans who are

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<v Speaker 1>dying by the tens of thousands now from opioid overdoses,

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<v Speaker 1>which are overwhelmingly drugs from the cartels. They don't even

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<v Speaker 1>start from a place of honesty in this conversation. They

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<v Speaker 1>don't because honest, if they were honest about it, you'd

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<v Speaker 1>know you have to secure a border. That's not even

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<v Speaker 1>a Republican or Democrats, or at least it used to nap.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, people seem to forget like in the sixties

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<v Speaker 1>and the sifties and sixties and before that, both parties

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<v Speaker 1>were strong border security parties. This is not the normal

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<v Speaker 1>Democrat party. This party is just simply gone in saying

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<v Speaker 1>every country in the history of the world has acknowledged

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<v Speaker 1>they have to secure a border, a border as part

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<v Speaker 1>of what makes you a sovereign nation. Only this modern

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<v Speaker 1>day insane Democrat party has gone this routed. It's sad.

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<v Speaker 1>It's sad to see because it's really an impossible win.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes it impossible to ever get any real border

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<v Speaker 1>security when you're constantly fighting half the country who wants

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<v Speaker 1>the border wide open. And I was just watching earlier

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<v Speaker 1>today to see it's just so I could keep tabs

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<v Speaker 1>on what's going on with Congress and this possible shutdown,

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<v Speaker 1>and Shepherd Smith was on his show and he just

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<v Speaker 1>just dropped casually in his conversation with one of his guests,

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<v Speaker 1>he goes, well, experts say waltz don't work. And I

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<v Speaker 1>keep hearing this from people as though this is a

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<v Speaker 1>different Like the science is settled. Walls don't work. I

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<v Speaker 1>have personally been told by the head of Border Patrol,

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<v Speaker 1>by the head of Immigrations and Customs Enforcement, that a

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<v Speaker 1>wall would be very helpful. So do you who are

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<v Speaker 1>these experts? I mean, are we just talking about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>open borders activists and people that are are funded by

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the Open Society Foundation, Like, who are these

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<v Speaker 1>border experts that say walls don't work? I see a

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<v Speaker 1>plaud him because he found the same experts. This is

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<v Speaker 1>the Obama model. Obama used to do this all the

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<v Speaker 1>time of Well, all the experts say that I'm eleven

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<v Speaker 1>feet tall and bulletproof, and nobody ever would ask him. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>which expert? That's not nearly all the experts Saying walls

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<v Speaker 1>don't work is the dumbest thing in the history of mankind,

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<v Speaker 1>because every single society in the history of the world

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<v Speaker 1>has had some sort of wall and barrier, specifically because

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<v Speaker 1>they worked. If they stopped working, I'm pretty sure humanity

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<v Speaker 1>would have stopped using them about five thousand years ago. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>walled cities were really the basis of modern civilization for

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<v Speaker 1>a long time. So yes, it is true. People could

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<v Speaker 1>storm the walls, they could use battering rams, they could

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<v Speaker 1>tunnel under them. But they were like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna give up this whole wall idea. This isn't working.

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<v Speaker 1>It is crazy, and that's the next route they go,

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<v Speaker 1>and it makes their original arguments sound even worse when

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<v Speaker 1>they say, well they'll ladder over them. Well, no, one said,

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<v Speaker 1>it's full proof. I mean, of course, you create new

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<v Speaker 1>obstacles for them, and people do have to understand the

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<v Speaker 1>walls are critical in the urban areas. Yeah, they're fine

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<v Speaker 1>in the rural areas, but normally the border patrol has

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<v Speaker 1>time to respond to the rural area. In the urban areas,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to have a physical barrier. Otherwise one state crossed,

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<v Speaker 1>they melt into the population and they are gone. If

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<v Speaker 1>you do not have some sort of serious physical wall, fence,

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<v Speaker 1>triple fence, whatever you want to call it, in an

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<v Speaker 1>urban area, you cannot secure the border ever, can't be done.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Jesse, how long how long a driver are

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<v Speaker 1>you from the border right now? I mean you're down

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<v Speaker 1>you're actually in a border state, really the primary border state.

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<v Speaker 1>You know how long are taking to get down there?

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<v Speaker 1>I've four hours from the border, and I ran for

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<v Speaker 1>Congress back in Tucson, where I was an hour and

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<v Speaker 1>a half two hours from the border, and I've because

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<v Speaker 1>of that run for office, I've spent plenty of time

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<v Speaker 1>on the border and meeting with border patrol and so on.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it's I've done enough border time to know

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<v Speaker 1>you'd you'd be really really sad if you saw the

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<v Speaker 1>way we protect this country we had. Yeah, that's I

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna say. I'm sure you've been to the areas

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<v Speaker 1>where it's like, hey, here's the border, and you could

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<v Speaker 1>take a photo and it's just there's nothing there. There

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<v Speaker 1>is that you've seen. Everybody's seen, I'm assuming savent Private

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<v Speaker 1>Saving Private Ryan, and you've seen those basically steel beam

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<v Speaker 1>X looking things on the beaches when they land at Normandy.

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<v Speaker 1>I am not exaggerating. That is what consists of a

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<v Speaker 1>border fence in several areas of at least the Tucson

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<v Speaker 1>sector of the border, because we would have to go

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<v Speaker 1>down there and tour it, and there'll just be miles

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<v Speaker 1>for a mile as far as you could see that

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<v Speaker 1>you or I or a two year old child could

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<v Speaker 1>get through in a half a second. It's not even

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<v Speaker 1>a barrier. I don't know why you don't just hold

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<v Speaker 1>up a welcome sign, Jesse, very important question for your

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<v Speaker 1>switching gears for a second here, what is the best

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<v Speaker 1>season of Narco so farking of the Border. It's got

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<v Speaker 1>to be the original. Now, I love the new Narcos

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<v Speaker 1>Mexico because the Mexican cartel thing really, really fascinates, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>because people who don't understand how new the idea of

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<v Speaker 1>a Mexican cartel is. There have always been drugs there,

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<v Speaker 1>and they have always been crime and corruption, but really

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<v Speaker 1>an organized cartel did not start until the eighties there

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<v Speaker 1>when they decided that that was a great place they

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<v Speaker 1>could they could be powerful by running all the Colombian

1:21:28.240 --> 1:21:31.559
<v Speaker 1>cokes through Mexico. So I love the new Narcos Mexico,

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<v Speaker 1>but the original one with Pablo Escobar. I eat up

1:21:34.400 --> 1:21:38.240
<v Speaker 1>editing cartel, and Pablo Escobar is just a fascinating human being. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know the reason the Mexican cartel was so the

1:21:40.920 --> 1:21:44.519
<v Speaker 1>cartel's plural were so successful. And I keep trying to

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<v Speaker 1>remind people that last year was the most violent year

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<v Speaker 1>in Mexico's modern history for murders. So the cartel activity

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<v Speaker 1>is sky high. It's because there's so much money being

1:21:56.560 --> 1:22:00.479
<v Speaker 1>made off of well, a bunch of different drugs, mostly

1:22:00.560 --> 1:22:05.519
<v Speaker 1>heroin and synthetic the synthetic variants the opioids that they make.

1:22:06.000 --> 1:22:09.400
<v Speaker 1>And the reason they can get into the countries because

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<v Speaker 1>we got an unsecured border. It's a lot easier to

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<v Speaker 1>bring it across the border than it is to fly

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<v Speaker 1>it in from Cartajeno or from Metaean or wherever. And

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, it just goes to show you that,

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<v Speaker 1>in a sense, the drug war, the market has spoken,

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<v Speaker 1>our southern border is our week underbelly. Because that's why

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<v Speaker 1>the Mexican cartels are so powerful. Ride And it's funny

1:22:32.680 --> 1:22:35.640
<v Speaker 1>you brought that up, because the reason they are so powerful,

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<v Speaker 1>the reason they became the trafficking area, was because we

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<v Speaker 1>shut down Cuba. Cuba was the place where we were

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<v Speaker 1>hauling in almost all the cocaine the United States was consuming,

1:22:45.000 --> 1:22:48.280
<v Speaker 1>especially in the nineteen seventies. Everybody's seen, you know, Miami

1:22:48.360 --> 1:22:50.200
<v Speaker 1>bias with the drug boats and stuff. I mean that

1:22:50.280 --> 1:22:53.439
<v Speaker 1>was real. Miami is built on cocaine money. That is,

1:22:53.640 --> 1:22:56.559
<v Speaker 1>it's for real. And we found a way to lock

1:22:56.640 --> 1:22:59.000
<v Speaker 1>it down. And they looked around and say, well, wait

1:22:59.000 --> 1:23:01.400
<v Speaker 1>a minute, why would we mess around with floating in

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<v Speaker 1>the Caribbean and the boats and the coast guard, but

1:23:03.720 --> 1:23:06.080
<v Speaker 1>we should just walking right across the southern border. These

1:23:06.120 --> 1:23:11.599
<v Speaker 1>idiots don't even guard the border. Yep. So Jessee, before

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<v Speaker 1>we let you go, because it's obviously about to be Christmas.

1:23:14.840 --> 1:23:17.920
<v Speaker 1>What is Christmas celebration like in the Kelly Household. What

1:23:18.120 --> 1:23:20.240
<v Speaker 1>do you guys do do you do? You have your kids?

1:23:20.600 --> 1:23:23.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, do lots of push ups? You guys watch football?

1:23:23.439 --> 1:23:27.240
<v Speaker 1>What do you guys do you know? It's as unexciting

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<v Speaker 1>now and laid back has ever seen. I always did

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<v Speaker 1>the thing when I was a kid of it was

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<v Speaker 1>just me, my sister, my folks, laid back. But since

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<v Speaker 1>I've been married, I've had to do the marriage you're

1:23:36.640 --> 1:23:38.760
<v Speaker 1>gonna you're gonna experience this pal, I've had to do

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<v Speaker 1>them married and married with kids thing where one year

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<v Speaker 1>you have to fly back to where her parents are.

1:23:42.840 --> 1:23:45.680
<v Speaker 1>The next year of your pigeon. It's in Christmas just

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<v Speaker 1>sucks where you're traveling all the time. Last year, I've

1:23:49.160 --> 1:23:52.439
<v Speaker 1>put my foot down no more. We wake up kiddo's

1:23:52.479 --> 1:23:55.280
<v Speaker 1>open presence. Dada drinks a cup of coffee with some

1:23:55.400 --> 1:23:57.800
<v Speaker 1>musky inside of it. We eat sent him and rolls

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<v Speaker 1>and then we do a movie because, no doubt, because

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<v Speaker 1>of the movies on Christmas Day and all the good

1:24:01.840 --> 1:24:03.640
<v Speaker 1>movies are out. We picked a movie and we go

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<v Speaker 1>around noon or one what do you do you know

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<v Speaker 1>what the movie is gonna be already this year an aquaman.

1:24:09.520 --> 1:24:11.720
<v Speaker 1>We already I have Look, I have kids, so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>limited to anything basically PG or roughly PG thirteen. So

1:24:15.720 --> 1:24:19.080
<v Speaker 1>Aquaman Aquaman, all right? You know it made like two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty million dollars in China. By the way, Well,

1:24:22.360 --> 1:24:25.479
<v Speaker 1>any superhero movie makes big money now because it's to

1:24:25.600 --> 1:24:27.639
<v Speaker 1>be honest, it's one of the only movies that one

1:24:27.760 --> 1:24:30.080
<v Speaker 1>parents can take their kids do. And two you don't

1:24:30.120 --> 1:24:33.120
<v Speaker 1>get browbeaten with any politics of any kind, not left,

1:24:33.200 --> 1:24:35.559
<v Speaker 1>not right. You just go and just enjoy some dumb

1:24:35.640 --> 1:24:39.479
<v Speaker 1>explosions and whatnot and walk out. It's just enjoyable what

1:24:39.560 --> 1:24:42.600
<v Speaker 1>a movie is supposed to be. And what is the

1:24:42.680 --> 1:24:47.880
<v Speaker 1>proper food to eat on Christmas Day? Well, Buck, you

1:24:47.960 --> 1:24:50.400
<v Speaker 1>know I'm pretty classy, so I'll probably pick up a

1:24:50.439 --> 1:24:53.439
<v Speaker 1>little Caesar's pizza. Maybe it was some crazy bread as well.

1:24:54.360 --> 1:24:56.400
<v Speaker 1>I have no doubt we're going to be eating steak

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<v Speaker 1>at some point in time. Don't waste your time with

1:24:58.720 --> 1:25:01.679
<v Speaker 1>ham or turkey. Evil, that's a lie. You say you'd

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<v Speaker 1>rather have ham or a turkey over steak, you're a

1:25:04.160 --> 1:25:06.920
<v Speaker 1>ball faced. Later, Wow, he's calling out. He's calling out

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<v Speaker 1>the roast ham, folks, or the baked ham. Sorry, I

1:25:10.240 --> 1:25:14.920
<v Speaker 1>keep saying roast ham, baked ham, baked all right, United

1:25:15.000 --> 1:25:17.280
<v Speaker 1>States of America would look at a baked ham and

1:25:17.400 --> 1:25:20.360
<v Speaker 1>a sizzling prime rib and picked the bake cam. No,

1:25:20.479 --> 1:25:26.320
<v Speaker 1>but Jesse Kelly controversial but truthtelling as always Jesse Kelly.

1:25:26.320 --> 1:25:29.800
<v Speaker 1>Everybody listened to him nine fifty KPRC in Houston. You

1:25:29.840 --> 1:25:31.800
<v Speaker 1>can also follow him on Twitter. Look for his stuff

1:25:31.840 --> 1:25:34.760
<v Speaker 1>on the Federalist Jesse, Merry Christmas to you and yours.

1:25:34.840 --> 1:25:36.240
<v Speaker 1>My friend will talk to you in the new year.

1:25:37.120 --> 1:25:42.080
<v Speaker 1>Merry Christmas for brother. You know, after I just talked

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<v Speaker 1>to Jesse Kelly there, I remembered I had an exchange

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<v Speaker 1>with one of these border bizarros or earlier today. You

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<v Speaker 1>may be familiar with someone by the name of Max

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<v Speaker 1>Boot these days only because he is a quote former

1:25:59.479 --> 1:26:04.800
<v Speaker 1>conservative who is now an unhinged Trump hater. In fact,

1:26:04.880 --> 1:26:07.120
<v Speaker 1>he is such a Trump hater that on my show

1:26:07.360 --> 1:26:09.800
<v Speaker 1>where I am a conservative and sitting next to me

1:26:10.080 --> 1:26:15.080
<v Speaker 1>is a wonderful lady named Crystal who is very liberal.

1:26:15.560 --> 1:26:18.160
<v Speaker 1>He thought that both of us because we asked him

1:26:18.200 --> 1:26:23.360
<v Speaker 1>real questions must be in his words, trump VOTs, using

1:26:23.680 --> 1:26:27.760
<v Speaker 1>Trump talking points to undercut his arguments. Meanwhile, I mean

1:26:27.880 --> 1:26:31.720
<v Speaker 1>this guy's having essentially a public breakdown in front of

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<v Speaker 1>the nation because he's no longer that important, what, however

1:26:35.320 --> 1:26:37.679
<v Speaker 1>important he thought he was before when he was writing

1:26:37.760 --> 1:26:43.200
<v Speaker 1>articles for various neo conservative causes and publications. Now, as

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<v Speaker 1>a Trump hater who has defected to the left, he's

1:26:46.280 --> 1:26:49.360
<v Speaker 1>going to find that he's only useful to them for

1:26:49.400 --> 1:26:51.599
<v Speaker 1>a short period of time and only as a weapon

1:26:52.000 --> 1:26:54.719
<v Speaker 1>against Trump. But he appeared on my show this morning

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<v Speaker 1>for his book, The Corrosion of Conservatism, and we got

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<v Speaker 1>to talking about the border. Now. I want you to

1:27:00.439 --> 1:27:05.040
<v Speaker 1>pay very close attention to this exchange, and just notice

1:27:05.360 --> 1:27:08.240
<v Speaker 1>does he answer the questions, does he even try to

1:27:08.360 --> 1:27:12.240
<v Speaker 1>deal with the substance, or does he become smug and

1:27:12.360 --> 1:27:15.800
<v Speaker 1>condescending despite the fact that his knowledge of immigration in

1:27:15.880 --> 1:27:19.960
<v Speaker 1>the border is apparently very lacking, play it well. In

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<v Speaker 1>the first place, there is not a crisis at our

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<v Speaker 1>southern border. Illegal immigration is down eighty percent from the

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<v Speaker 1>year two thousand. It is much lower than it was then.

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<v Speaker 1>Ousters not have hes okay, there's no crisis, because he

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<v Speaker 1>says immigration was at was a lot higher. Illegal immigration

1:27:37.800 --> 1:27:41.880
<v Speaker 1>was a lot higher twenty years ago. It's like, okay, Dufus.

1:27:42.360 --> 1:27:45.280
<v Speaker 1>Let's let's take this piece by piece. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>illegal immigration via overstays of visas is at half a

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<v Speaker 1>million a year, so you've got to count that into

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<v Speaker 1>whatever figure you think you're giving me. And last month

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<v Speaker 1>there were sixteen thousand family units, about fifty or sixty

1:27:58.960 --> 1:28:02.040
<v Speaker 1>thousand people that showed up at the border who were

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<v Speaker 1>claiming asylum. They are not counted as illegals yet because

1:28:05.280 --> 1:28:07.720
<v Speaker 1>they are legally going through the process unless they are

1:28:07.800 --> 1:28:10.559
<v Speaker 1>in fact caught entering the country illegal, if they turned

1:28:10.560 --> 1:28:12.960
<v Speaker 1>themselves into a poor ati entry, they're not counted. But

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<v Speaker 1>more to the point, we already have he says, twelve

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<v Speaker 1>or thirteen million, at least he got that one a

1:28:16.920 --> 1:28:19.479
<v Speaker 1>little closer. It's more like twenty million. So we were

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<v Speaker 1>already even flooded with illegal immigrants for almost the last

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<v Speaker 1>well you call it the last thirty years, since the

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<v Speaker 1>last amnesty, the last twenty years plus. And so now

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<v Speaker 1>the argument is, well there used to be more. That

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't seem like a very good argument at all to me.

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<v Speaker 1>But keep playing it, John, And we do not have

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<v Speaker 1>a crisis. We should certainly have borders security. Nobody argues

1:28:39.960 --> 1:28:42.920
<v Speaker 1>for open borders that's a myth that Donald Trump puts

1:28:43.000 --> 1:28:49.280
<v Speaker 1>out there. Pause, hold on. People argue for open borders

1:28:49.280 --> 1:28:52.000
<v Speaker 1>all the time. I know libertarians who argue for open borders.

1:28:52.080 --> 1:28:55.280
<v Speaker 1>I spoke to activists on the street protesting Stephen Miller

1:28:55.520 --> 1:28:58.960
<v Speaker 1>who were straight up saying they want open borders. Keep playing.

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<v Speaker 1>We need to have as a path to legalization for

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<v Speaker 1>the twelve to thirteen million illegal immigrants already in this

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<v Speaker 1>country because nobody's going to remove them, including Donald Trump,

1:29:09.320 --> 1:29:12.439
<v Speaker 1>and I think we need to have continue with border security,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe strengthen it a bit. Although the wall is a

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<v Speaker 1>farcical idea that would waste tens of billions of dollars

1:29:18.240 --> 1:29:21.560
<v Speaker 1>that we don't have. So should we tear down the

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<v Speaker 1>wall in San Diego where the caravan was recently essentially

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<v Speaker 1>parked and stopped? Should we get rid of that wall too? Well, again,

1:29:28.200 --> 1:29:30.599
<v Speaker 1>you're you're making things up. There's not really a wall

1:29:30.720 --> 1:29:34.080
<v Speaker 1>in in San Diego. There is a small sector there's

1:29:34.080 --> 1:29:37.320
<v Speaker 1>a border barrier that keeps people, very small border barrier

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<v Speaker 1>in in San Diego, which is not related to Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's to two things. Pause here, Notice how I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I'm referred to a wall. Yeah, it's a triple layer fence.

1:29:47.760 --> 1:29:50.439
<v Speaker 1>It's a barrier. I mean, that's just that's just sophistry, right,

1:29:50.479 --> 1:29:52.760
<v Speaker 1>He's just being a pain. This guy is a total jerk.

1:29:52.840 --> 1:29:55.479
<v Speaker 1>By the way, here's the reason that so many people

1:29:55.600 --> 1:30:00.880
<v Speaker 1>hate Conservatism, guys like him, who aren't particularly eloquent or

1:30:01.040 --> 1:30:06.160
<v Speaker 1>interesting and don't have nearly as wide a knowledge base

1:30:06.200 --> 1:30:09.080
<v Speaker 1>as they seem to think they do. But yeah, so

1:30:09.160 --> 1:30:11.479
<v Speaker 1>he wants to play semantics games with wall versus fence.

1:30:11.560 --> 1:30:13.439
<v Speaker 1>That's really useful. And then he says it has nothing

1:30:13.479 --> 1:30:15.240
<v Speaker 1>to do with Trump. That's obviously not the point. The

1:30:15.320 --> 1:30:17.800
<v Speaker 1>point is he says a wall is farcicle. Meanwhile, the

1:30:17.880 --> 1:30:20.759
<v Speaker 1>wall in the San Diego sector has dropped illegal crossing

1:30:21.240 --> 1:30:26.439
<v Speaker 1>ninety keep playing it. Phony promises to build a wall

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<v Speaker 1>along the entire length of I just want to know

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<v Speaker 1>why that's worth a billion dollars. Well, a wall here,

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<v Speaker 1>let me explain it to you in simple terms. You

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<v Speaker 1>can have appropriate barriers in certain and in certain places,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the appropriate barrier is a wall. But what Donald

1:30:41.920 --> 1:30:45.160
<v Speaker 1>Trump was peddling was nonsense to suggest that. Here. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>now we're back to Trump. This guy's unhinged. I'm just

1:30:47.640 --> 1:30:49.599
<v Speaker 1>saying there's a wall that works in one place, Why

1:30:49.640 --> 1:30:52.080
<v Speaker 1>are you saying a wall's a farcical idea? In other places?

1:30:52.439 --> 1:30:54.519
<v Speaker 1>No one's saying it's all going to be built at once. Anyway,

1:30:54.640 --> 1:30:56.599
<v Speaker 1>this guy's a perfect example of it. Thinks he's smart,

1:30:56.760 --> 1:30:59.719
<v Speaker 1>is actually a clown, is snide, and is a laughing

1:31:00.320 --> 1:31:04.840
<v Speaker 1>now on both sides. So Max boot you got booted, son.

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<v Speaker 1>I've gotten pretty used to the President tweeting out some

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<v Speaker 1>things that you you wouldn't necessarily expect the President of

1:31:15.520 --> 1:31:17.599
<v Speaker 1>the United States to tweet. You know, I've definitely seen

1:31:17.720 --> 1:31:20.920
<v Speaker 1>my fair share of things now from this president that

1:31:21.040 --> 1:31:23.920
<v Speaker 1>I go, oh wow, that is a thing that he

1:31:24.080 --> 1:31:27.120
<v Speaker 1>just shared on the Twitter. Who knew? Who knew that

1:31:27.240 --> 1:31:29.560
<v Speaker 1>such a thing could happen with the leader of the

1:31:29.600 --> 1:31:33.720
<v Speaker 1>free world. But this one today was what are those fun?

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<v Speaker 1>Reminders of the fact that this president had quite a

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<v Speaker 1>quite a life as a celebrity before he became the

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<v Speaker 1>president of the United States. This was from President Trump's

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<v Speaker 1>own Twitter account, a throwback Thursday video clip he shared

1:31:51.640 --> 1:31:56.200
<v Speaker 1>of him singing at the Emmys with Molly Malay play

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<v Speaker 1>it the far living is the life for me? Let's

1:32:05.320 --> 1:32:09.479
<v Speaker 1>spread out so far? And why keep being hot? Just

1:32:09.600 --> 1:32:30.840
<v Speaker 1>give me that countryside. That was President Trump singing, It's amazing,

1:32:31.600 --> 1:32:33.759
<v Speaker 1>you know. I was just talking to some colleagues today

1:32:33.760 --> 1:32:36.800
<v Speaker 1>about this at the Hill and how no matter what

1:32:37.080 --> 1:32:39.160
<v Speaker 1>you think of the president at how much you like

1:32:39.439 --> 1:32:44.680
<v Speaker 1>the President's policies, ideas, demeanor or dislike it, he is

1:32:44.760 --> 1:32:50.240
<v Speaker 1>in the whole situation is amazing and we do live

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<v Speaker 1>in And I guess this is also what are those

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<v Speaker 1>rare times we're all stop and say, for all the

1:32:56.479 --> 1:32:58.160
<v Speaker 1>problems that we have, for all the things that we

1:32:58.240 --> 1:33:03.759
<v Speaker 1>talk about on this show that are very real concerns, issues,

1:33:03.920 --> 1:33:08.080
<v Speaker 1>things to tackle and fix, we are living in a

1:33:08.320 --> 1:33:13.760
<v Speaker 1>period of amazing prosperity and relative peace. I was thinking

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<v Speaker 1>today as I was all my way to the office

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<v Speaker 1>very early in the morning, and I will lie I

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<v Speaker 1>was having a little pity party in my head for

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<v Speaker 1>woe is me. It's five am. I didn't get to

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<v Speaker 1>sleep until past midnight. I'm tired, it's cold, it's still

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<v Speaker 1>dark outside. And I thought, well, I'm going into a

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<v Speaker 1>TV studio a few blocks from the White House in Washington, DC.

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<v Speaker 1>And if this had been a different time period, I

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<v Speaker 1>could have say been a few days into the Battle

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<v Speaker 1>of the Bulch, which sure many of you recall, was

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<v Speaker 1>a World War two battle that was during the freezing

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<v Speaker 1>cold winter December sixteenth, nineteen forty four, and the Nazis

1:34:01.400 --> 1:34:06.040
<v Speaker 1>last ditch major offensive to try and turn the tide

1:34:06.080 --> 1:34:09.680
<v Speaker 1>of World War Two in the Western Front. And I

1:34:09.920 --> 1:34:12.519
<v Speaker 1>remember interviewing a couple of survivors of the Battle of

1:34:12.560 --> 1:34:16.439
<v Speaker 1>the Bolt and just how they couldn't get warm. They

1:34:16.520 --> 1:34:20.120
<v Speaker 1>were cold all the time, and there was always a

1:34:20.240 --> 1:34:23.600
<v Speaker 1>thread of German artillery, German shelling, and that's what they

1:34:23.680 --> 1:34:26.799
<v Speaker 1>were living with there today. So while I'm not generally

1:34:26.840 --> 1:34:29.240
<v Speaker 1>somebody who says, you know, things could be worse, you

1:34:29.280 --> 1:34:32.920
<v Speaker 1>could get eaten by a shark, which is technically true,

1:34:33.800 --> 1:34:36.920
<v Speaker 1>we are living in an amazing time, a very interesting time,

1:34:37.000 --> 1:34:41.280
<v Speaker 1>but also one in which we've had incredible prosperity. And

1:34:41.560 --> 1:34:46.400
<v Speaker 1>this country, for all of the all of the issues

1:34:46.640 --> 1:34:49.200
<v Speaker 1>that need to be fixed, in all of the areas

1:34:49.280 --> 1:34:55.160
<v Speaker 1>of fear and injustice and problems that we have, this

1:34:55.400 --> 1:34:58.160
<v Speaker 1>is an amazing time to be an American and we

1:34:58.360 --> 1:35:05.200
<v Speaker 1>haven't been saddled with a major global conflict. So I

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<v Speaker 1>just would note that we should all be a little

1:35:08.040 --> 1:35:10.400
<v Speaker 1>thankful as we go into Christmas even though I know

1:35:10.479 --> 1:35:26.400
<v Speaker 1>it's not Thanksgiving. You know what I mean, Team, it's

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<v Speaker 1>time for roll call. I can just feel that Christmas

1:35:30.000 --> 1:35:32.960
<v Speaker 1>spirit in the air. Team, it is, it is here,

1:35:33.080 --> 1:35:35.759
<v Speaker 1>it is upon us. We are in the home stretch.

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<v Speaker 1>Soon we will be celebrating in whatever way we choose

1:35:40.360 --> 1:35:44.680
<v Speaker 1>to celebrate. Man, Christmas, Tom, it is here. I'm so excited.

1:35:44.760 --> 1:35:47.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to sleep, I'm going to eat, I'm going

1:35:47.320 --> 1:35:51.519
<v Speaker 1>to be with friends and family. And it's been it's

1:35:51.560 --> 1:35:53.519
<v Speaker 1>been quite a year, quite a year. And then on

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<v Speaker 1>New Year's Eve, I had this amazing plan that I

1:35:55.720 --> 1:35:58.639
<v Speaker 1>want to share with you. New Year's Eve, I'm going

1:35:58.760 --> 1:36:02.360
<v Speaker 1>to just eat a really nice dinner and watch some

1:36:02.560 --> 1:36:06.320
<v Speaker 1>stuff on TV, and go to sleep around eleven o'clock.

1:36:07.040 --> 1:36:10.280
<v Speaker 1>That's my idea. Miss Molly's on board for it too.

1:36:10.400 --> 1:36:13.120
<v Speaker 1>That's my idea of a perfect New Year's Eve. I

1:36:13.240 --> 1:36:14.960
<v Speaker 1>do not get all wrapped up. If you're going to

1:36:15.040 --> 1:36:16.800
<v Speaker 1>a party, I hope you have a great time. I've

1:36:16.880 --> 1:36:19.040
<v Speaker 1>just been to so many New Year's Eve parties, and

1:36:19.479 --> 1:36:23.320
<v Speaker 1>I think that, second only to prom in high school,

1:36:23.520 --> 1:36:26.440
<v Speaker 1>New Year's Eve is the most overhyped and most disappointing

1:36:26.560 --> 1:36:31.560
<v Speaker 1>night that exists in American culture. But let's get to

1:36:31.680 --> 1:36:36.240
<v Speaker 1>your roll call thoughts. Mesa. First up, Hey Buck, I've

1:36:36.240 --> 1:36:38.000
<v Speaker 1>been listening to your show and bits and pieces for

1:36:38.040 --> 1:36:40.280
<v Speaker 1>about a year. I catch it on my way home

1:36:40.360 --> 1:36:43.360
<v Speaker 1>from work around eight pm on talk radio. I'm just

1:36:43.479 --> 1:36:45.960
<v Speaker 1>now figuring out that your show is a podcast and

1:36:46.000 --> 1:36:47.840
<v Speaker 1>now I listen to the whole show during the day

1:36:47.880 --> 1:36:51.240
<v Speaker 1>while I drive my ups truck. I'm just curious if

1:36:51.280 --> 1:36:53.360
<v Speaker 1>you record it live. If so, what time, If not,

1:36:53.520 --> 1:36:55.680
<v Speaker 1>what time and where do you release it? Right now,

1:36:55.720 --> 1:36:58.519
<v Speaker 1>I'm listening on iHeartRadio and usually checking throughout the day

1:36:58.520 --> 1:37:00.280
<v Speaker 1>to see if it's up yet. Sorry for the questions.

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<v Speaker 1>Love your show, Mesa, Well, you know, Mesa, what it

1:37:03.240 --> 1:37:06.559
<v Speaker 1>is is. The show is a live show, but there's

1:37:06.560 --> 1:37:10.560
<v Speaker 1>a podcast of the show that's up after and sometimes

1:37:10.640 --> 1:37:12.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm able to do a little bit of the show,

1:37:12.960 --> 1:37:16.840
<v Speaker 1>maybe some interviews here or there in advance, but the

1:37:17.000 --> 1:37:20.240
<v Speaker 1>whole show is on a podcast that you can listen

1:37:20.280 --> 1:37:23.160
<v Speaker 1>to every day, and the podcast should go up a

1:37:23.280 --> 1:37:26.439
<v Speaker 1>little bit earlier than the show finishes. In your market,

1:37:26.520 --> 1:37:29.560
<v Speaker 1>it depends on where you are, but we should have

1:37:29.680 --> 1:37:34.799
<v Speaker 1>the show up most nights by about oh eight pm

1:37:34.960 --> 1:37:37.519
<v Speaker 1>Eastern on the whole show, and we're trying to get

1:37:37.560 --> 1:37:41.920
<v Speaker 1>it out earlier and earlier. Marie, thank you for listening,

1:37:41.960 --> 1:37:45.240
<v Speaker 1>by the way, I hope you enjoy the podcast. Marie writes,

1:37:45.240 --> 1:37:49.200
<v Speaker 1>already awake and listening to last night's podcast. Agree also

1:37:49.360 --> 1:37:53.000
<v Speaker 1>sad about the wall and Trump dropping the ball. Tonight,

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<v Speaker 1>while we listen and wrap gifts, we're gonna have a

1:37:55.200 --> 1:37:57.719
<v Speaker 1>little drinking game and take a shot of Spike eggnog

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<v Speaker 1>every time you say, never forget at Scooter Libby. Aha, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right, Marie. I am particularly irascible about the way

1:38:08.360 --> 1:38:12.879
<v Speaker 1>that Scooter Libby was treated by the last special counsel. Seriously,

1:38:12.960 --> 1:38:15.040
<v Speaker 1>he's important to you. Was the injustice against him something

1:38:15.040 --> 1:38:18.120
<v Speaker 1>that gave you a heart for exposing wrongdoing? Inquiring minds

1:38:18.160 --> 1:38:20.519
<v Speaker 1>want to know, you know, Marie, I had to deal

1:38:20.800 --> 1:38:25.639
<v Speaker 1>with the internal investigative bureaucracy in a few different ways

1:38:25.760 --> 1:38:28.520
<v Speaker 1>during my time at the CIA and then at the NYPD.

1:38:29.240 --> 1:38:31.880
<v Speaker 1>And there is this mentality for those who are lifelong

1:38:31.960 --> 1:38:37.120
<v Speaker 1>bureaucrats that they do some great service by harassing and

1:38:37.280 --> 1:38:41.559
<v Speaker 1>even sometimes terrorizing and destroying the careers of good public servants. Now,

1:38:41.880 --> 1:38:46.240
<v Speaker 1>I was never on the wrong side of regulations or

1:38:46.400 --> 1:38:49.360
<v Speaker 1>certainly the law at either institution. But I know what

1:38:49.479 --> 1:38:52.840
<v Speaker 1>it's like when for political reasons, you get dragged in

1:38:52.880 --> 1:38:55.080
<v Speaker 1>the middle of something and people are trying to make

1:38:55.120 --> 1:38:58.160
<v Speaker 1>a name for themselves and they forget that there's a

1:38:58.320 --> 1:39:01.839
<v Speaker 1>process in place, but the end goal of that process

1:39:02.000 --> 1:39:06.000
<v Speaker 1>is supposed to be justice, and just the process itself

1:39:06.360 --> 1:39:10.240
<v Speaker 1>is not the end in and of itself. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>I think, one way of And then also the lies

1:39:14.479 --> 1:39:16.320
<v Speaker 1>around the whole Scooter Libby thing and people that were

1:39:16.320 --> 1:39:18.120
<v Speaker 1>saying that he was a trader and that he'd sold

1:39:18.160 --> 1:39:22.000
<v Speaker 1>out his country and there was no evidence for that whatsoever.

1:39:22.160 --> 1:39:25.160
<v Speaker 1>And people still to this day, including journalists some of

1:39:25.240 --> 1:39:27.439
<v Speaker 1>whom I've come across who claimed to have covered this

1:39:28.280 --> 1:39:31.320
<v Speaker 1>case specifically, they think that Scooter would betrayed his country

1:39:31.360 --> 1:39:34.360
<v Speaker 1>and lied. It's really hard to betray your country by

1:39:34.560 --> 1:39:37.560
<v Speaker 1>outing someone who was outed by somebody else in a

1:39:37.680 --> 1:39:39.880
<v Speaker 1>newspaper that has nothing to do with you, right, that

1:39:39.920 --> 1:39:42.360
<v Speaker 1>would be It's a difficult thing to do, you know.

1:39:42.680 --> 1:39:44.519
<v Speaker 1>It's a difficult thing to be the one who spills

1:39:44.600 --> 1:39:48.679
<v Speaker 1>the beans when the beans were already spilled by somebody else,

1:39:49.240 --> 1:39:55.280
<v Speaker 1>not by you. So I think that's a pretty straightforward

1:39:55.840 --> 1:39:57.880
<v Speaker 1>rundown of of why it is that I feel that way,

1:39:58.360 --> 1:40:01.599
<v Speaker 1>and also just a fits Gerrold went after Conrad Black,

1:40:01.680 --> 1:40:03.920
<v Speaker 1>he went after Scooter Libby. I mean, these there's a

1:40:04.000 --> 1:40:09.880
<v Speaker 1>lot of these sanctimonious democrats in prosecutors trappings who go

1:40:10.120 --> 1:40:15.200
<v Speaker 1>on these very high end, very high level political hunting expeditions,

1:40:15.400 --> 1:40:18.360
<v Speaker 1>and it's a disgrace and it makes me not trust

1:40:18.960 --> 1:40:22.920
<v Speaker 1>the Justice Department, which is supposed to be the institution

1:40:23.000 --> 1:40:25.800
<v Speaker 1>that I think we all, after the military, perhaps all

1:40:25.920 --> 1:40:29.479
<v Speaker 1>have the most faith in its fairness, and I have

1:40:29.640 --> 1:40:32.680
<v Speaker 1>almost no faith in the DJ when it comes to

1:40:32.840 --> 1:40:37.080
<v Speaker 1>dealing with highly sensitive political cases. I'm not talking about

1:40:37.160 --> 1:40:39.280
<v Speaker 1>drugs and murders and things like that. They can handle

1:40:39.320 --> 1:40:42.840
<v Speaker 1>that stuff just fine. Fortunately, there's not much of a

1:40:42.960 --> 1:40:46.040
<v Speaker 1>pro murder constituency out there, so it's not a political issue.

1:40:46.600 --> 1:40:50.559
<v Speaker 1>But there is certainly a food fight that is underway

1:40:50.640 --> 1:40:54.880
<v Speaker 1>right now over using corruption charges as a means of

1:40:55.560 --> 1:40:59.120
<v Speaker 1>settling electoral scores, and I just I find that really

1:40:59.520 --> 1:41:04.280
<v Speaker 1>disturbed being and it bothers me to no end. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I've told you before about the case that

1:41:09.280 --> 1:41:11.800
<v Speaker 1>I was involved in, and I can't get into the specifics,

1:41:12.200 --> 1:41:16.400
<v Speaker 1>but where someone who wasn't guilty of any terrorists wrongdoing

1:41:16.560 --> 1:41:19.800
<v Speaker 1>and was a few people removed from an actual, an

1:41:19.840 --> 1:41:22.640
<v Speaker 1>actual bad guy, they were thinking about going after him.

1:41:22.680 --> 1:41:25.479
<v Speaker 1>This is on the law enforcement side for a mortgage fraud.

1:41:25.560 --> 1:41:31.160
<v Speaker 1>And the guy was functionally illiterate and had actually paid

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<v Speaker 1>all of the you know, all of the mortgage debt

1:41:34.800 --> 1:41:36.880
<v Speaker 1>on the product, or was paying it off on time,

1:41:36.960 --> 1:41:41.040
<v Speaker 1>and essentially was a straw purchaser or straw mortgage purchaser

1:41:41.080 --> 1:41:42.920
<v Speaker 1>for somebody else. And they were thinking about, you know,

1:41:43.080 --> 1:41:46.439
<v Speaker 1>sending him away for ten years, or at least charging

1:41:46.520 --> 1:41:48.240
<v Speaker 1>him where he could. He wouldn't have gotten ten years,

1:41:48.240 --> 1:41:49.960
<v Speaker 1>but they would have charged him with a ten year offense.

1:41:50.320 --> 1:41:52.600
<v Speaker 1>And I just realized that people get so close to

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<v Speaker 1>the bureaucracy, and they become so enmeshed in their day

1:41:56.360 --> 1:42:00.560
<v Speaker 1>to day and in their mission that they sometimes forget that,

1:42:00.840 --> 1:42:04.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, there are human beings involved here. And it's

1:42:04.120 --> 1:42:07.519
<v Speaker 1>not just because it's the Christmas season, but every season

1:42:07.600 --> 1:42:11.160
<v Speaker 1>we should remember compassion and kindness and mercy. These are

1:42:11.280 --> 1:42:16.559
<v Speaker 1>things that should never be discarded. These are not traits,

1:42:16.600 --> 1:42:20.560
<v Speaker 1>these are not ways of being that, Oh I'm just

1:42:20.840 --> 1:42:24.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm just a man doing a job should eliminate your

1:42:24.520 --> 1:42:27.679
<v Speaker 1>sense of decency to your fellow human beings, and mercy

1:42:27.760 --> 1:42:30.479
<v Speaker 1>and compassion certainly go along with that. I mean, this

1:42:30.560 --> 1:42:33.639
<v Speaker 1>is one of the reasons why I in a very

1:42:33.760 --> 1:42:36.240
<v Speaker 1>different way. This is a much less serious thing. But

1:42:36.400 --> 1:42:39.400
<v Speaker 1>I try not to go after people so much on Twitter,

1:42:39.560 --> 1:42:41.640
<v Speaker 1>even though people come after me all the time. I

1:42:41.760 --> 1:42:44.000
<v Speaker 1>try to make it about issues and things and thoughts,

1:42:44.720 --> 1:42:48.120
<v Speaker 1>because I take no joy out of out of being

1:42:48.320 --> 1:42:50.600
<v Speaker 1>nasty to people. Some people, you know, you need you

1:42:50.680 --> 1:42:52.120
<v Speaker 1>need to tune up a little bit, need to give

1:42:52.120 --> 1:42:55.320
<v Speaker 1>them a little verbal slap around. But for the most part,

1:42:55.360 --> 1:42:58.479
<v Speaker 1>I try to avoid. I don't like dragging people who

1:42:58.520 --> 1:43:02.200
<v Speaker 1>have said something stupid on Twitter. I don't like dragging

1:43:02.240 --> 1:43:04.680
<v Speaker 1>them as a person what they say, sure, but them

1:43:04.720 --> 1:43:06.280
<v Speaker 1>as a person. You know. I don't make fun of

1:43:06.320 --> 1:43:09.400
<v Speaker 1>people's appearance. I mean, I put these these are guidelines

1:43:09.439 --> 1:43:11.040
<v Speaker 1>in place, and I'm not saying I'm perfect, and I

1:43:11.120 --> 1:43:14.559
<v Speaker 1>certainly fall short of it sometimes, but we've it's important

1:43:14.600 --> 1:43:16.920
<v Speaker 1>to maintain or at least have those guidelines. You know,

1:43:17.000 --> 1:43:20.080
<v Speaker 1>don't make fun of your political opponents appearance, don't go

1:43:20.200 --> 1:43:24.280
<v Speaker 1>after you know their family, or make light of personal tragedy.

1:43:24.479 --> 1:43:26.640
<v Speaker 1>Or you know, these are important things for all of us,

1:43:26.800 --> 1:43:30.559
<v Speaker 1>at least I believe. Richie writes, Buck, you're a good guy.

1:43:31.400 --> 1:43:34.679
<v Speaker 1>Stay away from the scooters and out of communist West Hollywood. Also,

1:43:35.160 --> 1:43:39.280
<v Speaker 1>make sure you watch the original Battlestar galact Galactica Middle

1:43:39.400 --> 1:43:43.439
<v Speaker 1>mini series. It's not completely necessary for enjoyment, but I

1:43:43.479 --> 1:43:47.200
<v Speaker 1>think it's important for the totality of the Battlestar Galactica experience. Honestly,

1:43:47.200 --> 1:43:49.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't see you as a sci fi type, and

1:43:49.320 --> 1:43:52.519
<v Speaker 1>I bet you probably know nothing of the original ABC series,

1:43:52.560 --> 1:43:54.600
<v Speaker 1>but one can hope. You know, Richie, I'm actually I

1:43:54.640 --> 1:43:59.400
<v Speaker 1>just finished the Battlestar Galactica mini series. I finally figured

1:43:59.439 --> 1:44:01.040
<v Speaker 1>out what I had missed and I was able to

1:44:01.280 --> 1:44:05.720
<v Speaker 1>watch it, and I so far really enjoy it. You know,

1:44:05.840 --> 1:44:08.200
<v Speaker 1>I think some of the some of the CGI and

1:44:08.280 --> 1:44:10.280
<v Speaker 1>the graphics are a little hokey, you know, they're a

1:44:10.360 --> 1:44:14.200
<v Speaker 1>little bit, a little bit b team. But the writing

1:44:14.240 --> 1:44:17.240
<v Speaker 1>and the acting is all pretty pretty solid. The writing

1:44:17.360 --> 1:44:18.840
<v Speaker 1>is very solid. Some of the acting I think can

1:44:18.840 --> 1:44:22.160
<v Speaker 1>be a little wooden, but overall, I gotta say it's good.

1:44:22.560 --> 1:44:25.439
<v Speaker 1>It's an interesting it's an interesting concept, and I'm enjoying

1:44:25.479 --> 1:44:27.040
<v Speaker 1>it and I'm hoping to make it all the way through.

1:44:28.560 --> 1:44:31.840
<v Speaker 1>Gerald and Leslie, Hey Buck, I'm a big fan. I

1:44:31.880 --> 1:44:33.800
<v Speaker 1>always listening to your podcast and heard you wanted to

1:44:33.880 --> 1:44:35.760
<v Speaker 1>hear from Facebook peeps. I just wanted to say I

1:44:35.840 --> 1:44:38.160
<v Speaker 1>love the show. You're definitely going to be the next

1:44:38.240 --> 1:44:41.040
<v Speaker 1>Rush Limball. I've been listening to him since I was eighteen.

1:44:41.080 --> 1:44:44.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm forty four now. I appreciate your perspective, your eighties

1:44:44.360 --> 1:44:46.120
<v Speaker 1>movie likes, and the fact that you like to cook

1:44:46.640 --> 1:44:52.160
<v Speaker 1>me too. Thanks for being you well. Thank you Gerald

1:44:52.479 --> 1:44:56.400
<v Speaker 1>and Leslie. I'm assuming that's from I don't know, actually

1:44:56.400 --> 1:44:58.040
<v Speaker 1>it could be from Gerald or Leslie, but it's very

1:44:58.120 --> 1:45:01.160
<v Speaker 1>very kind of you. Thanks for your words about you know,

1:45:01.320 --> 1:45:03.439
<v Speaker 1>saying that I'll be that I could ever be, even

1:45:03.520 --> 1:45:06.160
<v Speaker 1>in the same conversation as Rush Limball, as like telling

1:45:06.240 --> 1:45:08.840
<v Speaker 1>a you know, a young NBA player that he could

1:45:08.880 --> 1:45:11.000
<v Speaker 1>one day be like Michael Jordan or Rush Limball, I mean,

1:45:11.240 --> 1:45:15.400
<v Speaker 1>or or Rush Limball or Lebron James. But that's very

1:45:15.479 --> 1:45:17.280
<v Speaker 1>very kind of you. I appreciate it, and thank you

1:45:17.360 --> 1:45:19.800
<v Speaker 1>so much for listening to the show. And we've got

1:45:19.960 --> 1:45:21.760
<v Speaker 1>we've got a lot of a lot of years a

1:45:21.840 --> 1:45:24.040
<v Speaker 1>great show ahead, so if you've enjoyed it this far,

1:45:24.640 --> 1:45:28.880
<v Speaker 1>strap in because the ride's gonna be awesome. Ted rights Buck,

1:45:29.000 --> 1:45:32.000
<v Speaker 1>first time messaging anybody on the radio, but I have

1:45:32.160 --> 1:45:35.960
<v Speaker 1>to get this off my chest. I originally began listening

1:45:36.040 --> 1:45:38.720
<v Speaker 1>to you after hearing you on Rush. Plus, I'm tired

1:45:38.720 --> 1:45:41.760
<v Speaker 1>of listening conservatives hosts who feel compelled to scream over

1:45:41.840 --> 1:45:45.200
<v Speaker 1>the airways with their outrage. I turned them off. Overall,

1:45:45.280 --> 1:45:49.920
<v Speaker 1>your program and format are informative and thought provoking. Increasingly, however,

1:45:50.320 --> 1:45:53.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm turning you off as you talk a particular issue

1:45:53.120 --> 1:45:56.920
<v Speaker 1>to death, overtalk your analysis, and drone on enough already

1:45:56.960 --> 1:45:59.160
<v Speaker 1>it is exasperating. Maybe picking up the pace would help.

1:45:59.200 --> 1:46:01.760
<v Speaker 1>I'd also listen. I also refuse to listen to the

1:46:01.880 --> 1:46:06.040
<v Speaker 1>Godfather when he subs for you. In my opinion, hardly

1:46:06.080 --> 1:46:08.400
<v Speaker 1>anyone more boring to listen to. I will continue to

1:46:08.439 --> 1:46:11.720
<v Speaker 1>listen for now, Ted. Well, Ted, I'll try to mix

1:46:11.760 --> 1:46:13.120
<v Speaker 1>it up a little bit more for you, buddy. How

1:46:13.160 --> 1:46:15.759
<v Speaker 1>about that? You know, some days it's a slow new cycle.

1:46:15.880 --> 1:46:18.559
<v Speaker 1>Some days I try to get deep into the bowels

1:46:18.600 --> 1:46:20.519
<v Speaker 1>of an issue, which I think people can either find

1:46:21.680 --> 1:46:24.400
<v Speaker 1>interesting or they can find it to be you know,

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<v Speaker 1>too too much. You know, TMI, as the kids say,

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<v Speaker 1>But I do try to mix up the topics a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think we cover a lot of ground

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<v Speaker 1>over the three hours of the show. You know, these days,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be honest with you, man, I'm I get tired

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<v Speaker 1>of having to talk about the Muller probe. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that in a sense, I'm kind of hostage to the

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<v Speaker 1>new cycle in that regard, because it is what is

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<v Speaker 1>out there and being talked about. It is affecting and

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<v Speaker 1>directing the political conversation, but there's generally not that much

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<v Speaker 1>new stuff going on with it, and so you end

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<v Speaker 1>up slicing the onion pretty thin. But look, you're listener,

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<v Speaker 1>you are sending me a critique in good faith. I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate it. All of you who listen, every one of you.

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<v Speaker 1>You're the reason that I have this dream job of

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<v Speaker 1>having a radio show, and so your thoughts are always appreciated,

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<v Speaker 1>and that includes I have made. I can't even tell

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<v Speaker 1>you how many adjustments I've made countless adjustments to this

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<v Speaker 1>show over the years, because somebody will write me and

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<v Speaker 1>they'll say, you know, I'd like you to do this

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<v Speaker 1>a little more, or that a little more, a little

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<v Speaker 1>less of this and I read it and I realize, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right, that criticism is right. So single individuals have

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<v Speaker 1>written me either email or Facebook and gotten me to

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<v Speaker 1>make adjustments to the show. So I don't want you

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<v Speaker 1>to think that I'm not paying attention. I am paying attention.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. For example, on impressions, there's some that you

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<v Speaker 1>guys like, some that you're not as into, and you

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<v Speaker 1>like them in pretty small doses, like a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>over the years as a result of audience feedback, because

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<v Speaker 1>your feedback really does matter. I do this show for

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be my last show of twenty eighteen,

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<v Speaker 1>so send in your thoughts on Facebook. And also, we're

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna open up the lines, take a bunch of calls,

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