1 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: Please. He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 2 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: on your home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. Yeah, 3 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale Lolly here with Matt 4 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: Williamson and I it's a Wednesday in Pittsburgh spring Yeah kinda. 5 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: We're talking before the air about getting fields dry, and 6 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 1: my softball game got canceled this morning before we even 7 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: got a chance to see what kind of sun you're 8 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: gonna get, just not gonna get it. There's been no 9 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: sun today. A lot of canceled softball and baseball and 10 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: that kind of that. There is the season for that. 11 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: It is the season for that. That's one reason why 12 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 1: you know, track never gets canceled, a lightning and thunder, 13 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. But um, one thing that also 14 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,479 Speaker 1: didn't get canceled was the NFL Draft last week. And 15 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: I wrote a little thing on on d k pisper 16 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: sports dot com at about, uh something I've been you know, 17 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 1: people have been questioning if you didn't like the Steelers draft, 18 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: it's because you thought that they should have gone for 19 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: offensive linemen early and then filled the other needs later. 20 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: So I went back and looked at who was available 21 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: at each pick as opposed to what they did. You 22 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: can even have the gift of hindsight obviously too. Obviously 23 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: you don't know these things going on that oh, I 24 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: know him to get Kendrick Green the third round, you 25 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: know that takes some planning. Like I had one guy 26 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: say on in the comments to this, well, I wanted 27 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: them to take uh Creed Humphrey in the second round 28 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: and Tommy Tremble in the third. Okay, that sounds great, 29 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: but Tommy Tremball wasn't available to when they picked him 30 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: the third. It's a good plan and it seems like 31 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 1: it's a logical potential move, you know, or but that's 32 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: how you lose out him got you know, you know 33 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: he alway right. They've had plans like that in the past. Well, 34 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: you know, we really like this guy, will like to 35 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: take him here, and if somebody else takes him before 36 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 1: you do. That happens all the time. I feel like 37 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: that's happened several times in the last couple of years 38 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 1: at tight End and running back. You know where, boy, 39 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: we thought we're gonna get Alexander Madison or Dobbins or 40 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: who whoever was. I mean, he didn't expect like last 41 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: year all the running backs to go in round between 42 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 1: the rounds two and rounds three when they picked again. Uh, 43 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 1: the year they took Zack Gentry. There were two bits 44 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: there were. There were just a run on tight ends 45 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: and in the third and fourth rounds that you just 46 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: lost out on. I remember being a running on running 47 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: backs to the year I mentioned Madison. I just can't 48 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 1: remember the other names that were third round dish guys 49 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: that I thought were fourth or fifth round dish guys. 50 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: You know, and you settled for Snell. I think that 51 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: year was like that, okay, but the guys one ahead 52 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,959 Speaker 1: of them were more attractive and um, and then I've 53 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 1: muntioned a couple of times to a tight end. I 54 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: really think trading up for Bush cost him a tight 55 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: end that year too. Yeah, there's I mean, there's no 56 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: doubt about it. I mean they had to give up 57 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: extra picks to your point about that draft in twenty nineteen, 58 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: and I guess that's what it would be. I'm looking 59 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: at that here. So third round running backs, we're Darrell 60 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: Henderson in the third remember being a run Devin Singletary 61 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: went in the third to the Bills. Um, Like all 62 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: our mocks Damien Harris went in the third to the 63 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: to the Patriots. I remember mocking a Steeler Madison went. 64 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: Madison also went in the third year as a compensatory pick. 65 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: Remember mocking running backs often in like the fourth round 66 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: Neighborhood And I remember being on the air with you going, Wow, 67 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: all the guys we thought would be there, they weren't 68 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: awesome prospects. But right after Madison, Bryce Love went to Washington, 69 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: Justice Hill went to the Ravens Uh and then the 70 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: Steelers took Benny Snell that round. And that's the way 71 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: things have played out year after year at certain positions 72 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: for them. And you get a little cornerbacks, you know, 73 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: address it heavy in the first two rounds. Yeah, because 74 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: other teams need those guys too. It's not just you know, 75 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: it's Steeler needs usually until your next one. Yeah. So 76 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: I went back and looked at if the Steelers hadn't 77 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: taken the guys that they did in those rounds, who 78 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 1: would they have wound up with it? Had they gone 79 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 1: offensive tackles, center, running back and then tight end, let's 80 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: even you know, take a couple of different choose your advent. 81 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: We could do that. You do that, all right, So 82 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 1: let's let'slet's start with your article. What what did you 83 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: what did you end up? Okay, so they would have 84 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: they would have come up with Tevin Jenkins, Creed, Humphrey, 85 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: Trace Sermon, and Brevin Jordan's Okay, I don't think that's 86 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: as good. I don't think it's closed. I don't know. 87 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: I don't know that Brevin Jordan is an NFL player, 88 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: and I don't think he's the type of tight end. 89 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: He's not what they were. Probably that's probably a linebacker 90 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: or a corner. Yeah, you know, you probably just punted 91 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: on tight You're not getting your tight end. You're not 92 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: getting the tight end. Once again, you don't solve the problem. 93 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 1: And they've they've thrown money, they've used resources to try 94 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 1: to fill that tight end position. It's got to be 95 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 1: getting frustrated. Yeah. Um, so this year they said, you 96 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:27,799 Speaker 1: know what, we get an opportunity to draft the number 97 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: What they ended up with was the number one running 98 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: back mhm, the number two, consensus number two tight end 99 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: behind behind a generational talent. Most years, Firemouth is the 100 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: first tight end taken. Yeah, they ended up with us 101 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: with a center who was on the same level as Creed, Humphrey. 102 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: I think that the same tier. Yeah, same tier, and 103 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: they ended and they got then Dann Moore and I've 104 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: talked about this a lot. The drop off between or 105 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 1: the gap between the fifth or sixth rated offensive tackle 106 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: in the fifth teenth rated offensive tackle was not very 107 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: big this year, much less than usual. But obviously in 108 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 1: this exercise where you upgrade as tackle, yeah, you know, 109 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: without quote, more than anywhere, you know, I mean if 110 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 1: you were taken this path. But but again, you're taking 111 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: the you're taking the fifth best offensive tackle as opposed 112 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 1: to the number one running back who didn't go in 113 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: the first round, by the way, right, who didn't know 114 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: who fell out of the first round. I know, he's 115 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: one studer fans wanted. Creed Humphrey wasn't even the second 116 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: offensive wasn't the second center taken. Josh Myers was. But 117 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: none of us would have complained with the second round 118 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: Creed humph No. No, you and I were on the 119 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 1: air at the time, and we both thought it would 120 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: be Creed Humphrey. So Friar Muth makes some sense there. Though. 121 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: I'm not disputing your article, but I think you would 122 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: probably go your top three picks, like you mentioned, what 123 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: it was like Jenkins Humphrey Sermon. Then you probably go 124 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 1: corner or linebacker and you have Jesse James, you know 125 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: what I mean? Yeah, and that's probably well. Let's let's 126 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: take a look at that third round. Who was available 127 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 1: after we mentioned mentioned Trey Sermon already? You know, maybe 128 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: use a sixth round or seven or that second to 129 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: last pick would have been a throwaway tight end and 130 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: instead you have a corner with that spot. Monty Rice 131 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: was still available, like that would have made him suend Uh. 132 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: Let's see any corners of note. Elijah Molden was there 133 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: in the third round. Yeah, Embrey, Thomas Malfajuana, Brandon Stevens. 134 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't get that one at all. Now, 135 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: that one does not add up to me. Yeah, project, 136 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: that doesn't. That's that well. Yeah, people talk about the 137 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: Steelers trading a fourth round pick next year to to 138 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: go get a defensive lineman, the Ravens drafting Brandon Stevens 139 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: in the fourth round, the Mese bigger head scratcher. So 140 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: I like this exercise because I think if you do 141 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: it with any team, the team we picked today should 142 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: be better than the team they picked then because we 143 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: know things. Yeah, you know what I mean. So I 144 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: still wouldn't trade the four Steeler picks for Jenkins, Humphrey, 145 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: Sermon Molden, who we both like a lot. It still 146 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: wouldn't make that trade. As much as I like Molden. 147 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: And when they went down that road, I think they 148 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: probably said in the fourth round, this is gonna be 149 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: a tackle. You know, like as much as we love Molden, 150 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: this has to be a tackle, because they realized they 151 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: didn't take an offensive line with the first two picks. 152 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: So the next two words, actually, Moulden wouldn't have been 153 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: available in the fourth round. He was in the third round, 154 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: so you would have gotten he would either take a 155 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: Sermon or Molden. I think you have to take Sermon 156 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: at that point, right, and then in the fourth round, 157 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: the fourth round and move on to the fourth round 158 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: you're not getting So I was saying in your exercise, 159 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: you took Jordan's who I don't think would interest them. 160 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: I think that picks I just took him because it 161 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: matched the position. So I think that pick would probably 162 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: be a corner or a linebacker. So the guys available 163 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: after they picked that was shocked. Molden was there when 164 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: he said, after they picked Dan Moore in the fourth round, 165 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,199 Speaker 1: Robert H. Shell would have been the next guy. Okay, okay, 166 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: I could find I could deal with that, um Marco Wilson, 167 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: Trey Brown. But they had another they had another pick there. 168 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: They wanted to fill the top the offensive tackle spot, 169 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: no question, because they had because the third three picks 170 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: they had made at that point, Um, that's why I 171 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: do the one today should always be better than doing 172 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, they took Buddy Johnson at one forty. 173 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 1: After that, I'm getting there was a mini run on 174 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: corners there. There's nothing they might have taken one of 175 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 1: those corners in a in an ideal world, they said, okay, 176 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: when they made the pick of Dann Moore, they said, okay, 177 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: there's there's still three or four corners on the board 178 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: that we like. Again, Rochelle was there, um Marco Wilson 179 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: was there, Trey Brown was there. They all went right, 180 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: you know, and that was the area where you looked 181 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: at that. So then they said, okay, we're gonna take 182 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: Buddy Johnson there. Because the honestly, the linebackers were pretty 183 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 1: picked at that point. It wasn't as deep a draft 184 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: as we thought it was to be on and when 185 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 1: you watch a play out in real time, Yeah, there's 186 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff to go around. But this wasn't 187 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: an awesome draft class. I mean, it wasn't bad in 188 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: the top couple of rounds, but yeah, a lot of 189 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: that's relatively speaking, you know. I mean there wasn't much 190 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: defensive talent in this and people who wanted linebackers are 191 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: gonna take him. Yeah, I mean the next the next 192 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 1: inside linebacker taken after uh Johnson was Tony Fields and 193 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: he was he's an undersize. Yeah, I don't right, I 194 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: don't think he fits at all. Then you're looking at 195 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: Garrett Waller, who I like. But when it picked one seventy, um, 196 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: you know kJ Britt, who was slow, Cameron mcgron, okay, um, 197 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: but still, I mean back to the original point, I'd 198 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: rather have the Steelers first round picks than Jenkins humphree, sermon, 199 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: Trey Brown. Yeah, you had to fix your run game. 200 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: I had another person say, you know, they could. They 201 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: should have just waited until next year to get their 202 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: running back and taking the offensive lineman who's running the 203 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: ball for you this year? Of fine, but it would 204 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 1: be miserable yeah. I mean, you just watched three years 205 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: of that not being able to run the football. That 206 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 1: doesn't fix your run game, that's your your Your team 207 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:13,199 Speaker 1: owner came out and said publicly, we've got to get 208 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: our run game fixed. We can't be dead last again. 209 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: Running those backs out running Benny Snell and Anthony McFarland 210 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 1: and the other guy you know, Jalen Samuel's out there 211 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: and whatever pops up on the streets get you dead 212 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: last and rushing again next year or or at least 213 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: twenty or lower. It's not the nineties Cowboys offensive line. 214 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: Even if you fix it, you can run behind it, 215 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 1: you know. Um, in general, I don't hate that strategy, 216 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: but you can't look at everything just this is the 217 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: way you do it. Like the Jets to me, okay, 218 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 1: go draft Via Tucker and Mackay Beck in the year before, 219 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: and then next year they'll add their back. It's not Carter, 220 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: it's not p Ryan, you know. But they're coming from 221 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: being one of the worst teams in the league, trying 222 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: to get the mediocrity where you're a playoff team. It's 223 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: a perennial winner who's still competing while they're doing these things. 224 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: I mean, they're coming from two different directors. They've had 225 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,839 Speaker 1: back to back years to get top ten talents on 226 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: the offensive line. Yeah, right, and they have a ton 227 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: of picks and right right, and you're when you're getting 228 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: McKay Beckton, who's you know, some people looked at his 229 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 1: the top offensive tackles track trade up for Tucker to 230 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: put next to him, Walter Jones and Hutchinson on the 231 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: left side. Absolutely, you got the number one guards prospect industry. 232 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 1: That's how you fix your offensive line. When you're picking four, 233 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: you're not getting that. You're not getting that, and you're 234 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 1: not getting two of them. No, that's right, right, So 235 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: I you know, I thought that their approach and sen Jenkins, 236 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: and we liked Devin Jenkins. I'm not tearing apart Devin Jenkins, 237 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: but he's not a left tackle. He's not a left tackle. 238 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,959 Speaker 1: He really is probably only a right tackle, maybe a guard, 239 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 1: but they don't need a guard. They have right tackles. 240 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:52,559 Speaker 1: And he didn't go to the first round, you know. 241 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: Outside of that, yeah, that that makes perfect sense. Yeah, 242 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 1: I mean it wasn't like Cosmi was the next pick, 243 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: or you know, i Ckenburg or one of those guys 244 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: went directly after. I mean the league didn't view those 245 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: guys that way. Yeah. I mean if if you look 246 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: at the I mean, if Derrissol was there, we have 247 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 1: a different conversation. Yeah, and he went one pick ahead 248 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 1: of them. Again, it's it's the the way runs happened, 249 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: the way the board's stack. I mean, you know, in 250 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: everybody loved J. J. Watt. No, right, right right, That 251 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 1: doesn't mean you're you get a chance to draft him. 252 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: You know, the Steelers love Mikey Fitzpatrick. He was long 253 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: done by the time they took When they had an 254 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 1: opportunity to trade for them, they did. You know, it's 255 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: it's not that hard he goes. You know, I just 256 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 1: look at this. They drafted to offensive lineman at the 257 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: two positions they need. I think more is probably more 258 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 1: of a left than a right, and greens the center, 259 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,719 Speaker 1: and both could probably play guard if you had to. 260 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 1: If things get shuffled around, you could have addressed it 261 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:56,199 Speaker 1: more thoroughly. Yes, But friar Muth was kind of one 262 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: of a kind in this In this draft, I mean 263 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: Hunter long and Tremble maybe would have worked. Tremble caught 264 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: like twelve passes though a college you know, Friar Muth 265 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: was their role in the passing game couldn't been any different. Like, 266 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: I like Tommy Trembell as much as the next guy, 267 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: and he's a massive locker, but like he's not gonna 268 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 1: be on any fantasy team, and along his his upside 269 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: is number two. His number two. Friar Muth was the 270 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: foundation of that passing game. And Penn State Tommy Trembell 271 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: caught like twelve balls, you know, long was the foundation 272 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: of the passing game. So I mean that one made 273 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: a little more sense. But friar Muth is a better prospect. 274 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: So if it comes down to two, there was two 275 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: tight ends that could fit fix your needs, and there 276 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: was three running backs that could fix fix your needs. 277 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: You got you hit both. Yeah, more was the sixteenth 278 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: tackle taken in the draft. Um, I'm of the belief 279 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: that had had you know, apples to oranges. If if 280 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: James Hudson's available instead, they probably take him. I'm sure 281 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: there's several right in that fourth round, but they didn't 282 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: have that opportunity. I mean, they like Spencer Brown, but 283 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: not as much as Kenneth Green and green Field a 284 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: bigger need, you know. I saw people say they should 285 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: have taken Jalen Mayfield and I'm not even is a tackle. 286 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: I'm not even sure he is a tack. I'm sure 287 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: he's a tackle. And center was center and running back 288 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: with the two things you couldn't leave the draft without. Absolutely, 289 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: those were your two open the two open spots. Not necessarily. 290 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: I mean, they could play this year with b J. 291 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: Finneott center and be probably, but it's not. It's not 292 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: as good as you want to be there. No, no, 293 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: I mean you can find the Jesse James in the 294 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: world's too, but as much twelve personnel as you see 295 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: in the league, a second tight end isn't much different 296 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: than a nickel corner in terms of what we're calling starters, too, 297 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: and Friar Mooth is going to play a lot of apps. Yeah. 298 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: The interesting thing about it is that there were four 299 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: offensive tackles taken in the first round, all in the 300 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: first twenty three picks, the last one right, and then 301 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: there wasn't another one taken until Jenkins went the seventh 302 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: pick of the second round. But then they were really 303 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: shocked me. Yeah, then, but then there were six taken. Yeah, 304 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: six of them taking in almost of the second round 305 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: was we're tackles, same thing in the third round, one two, three, 306 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: four four more in the third round, and then a 307 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: lot of people trade enough to get them to in 308 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: the second and then the fourth round was one two, 309 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: three four more in the fourth round. I really think, 310 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: you know, when you look at there's been years where 311 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: a guy like Tevin Jenkins or Christian Derris saw It 312 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: went twenty three are the top tackles available in your draft. 313 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: And I think most years the Eichenberg's and Cosmis go 314 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: in the first go in the first round. Yeah, as 315 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: opposed to I will wait till tomorrow, or even a 316 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: guy like Ratten's. We've seen guys like that go in 317 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: the first round. I mean Tennessee had to be thrilled 318 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: to get him after missing on the tackle last year. 319 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: So it was it was really deep there most years. 320 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: Dan Moore is the third round pick at worst, I 321 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: think so. Yeah, I think a true left tackle played 322 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: in the SEC, you know, by just starts at worst, 323 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: he goes in the third round, the fourth tackle. He's 324 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: the tent. Yeah. Even if you look at some of 325 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: the guys taken after him, there's some good. Yeah. Josh 326 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: Ball went, Deante Smith went was exciting. Yeah, you had 327 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:19,919 Speaker 1: Stone Forsyth who went after him. Yeah, Um, he shocked me. 328 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: He lasted that long. I think the other more, Jalen 329 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 1: Moore went after Dan Moore or right in the neighborhood, 330 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: didn't he They must list him as a guard. Yeah, 331 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: they probably did. I'm looking to the and that's the thing. 332 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: Some of these guys will kick in the guard of 333 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: That's another thing. I was asked, you know, who's the 334 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 1: the last rookie to to move from guard to center 335 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 1: in his rookie year, and and and Shine. I'm like, well, 336 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: first of all, Green's played center. It's not like he's 337 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: making a transition. Has never played the position. He's done 338 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: this before. Yeah, everyone assumes he's a guard and learning center. No, 339 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: that's not the case. But that's what their Monty Dawson did. 340 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there's tons of examples. Yeah, I mean the 341 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 1: Saints guy and the Packers guy two years ago or 342 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 1: both highly productive starting centers right now, they're both in 343 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 1: their second or third year. Who were their two names 344 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: and they were drafted very recently. Um, both those guys 345 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,199 Speaker 1: were guards converting to center. And it bounced back and forth. 346 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: Even uh, who was a Michigan guy that the Saints 347 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: took them first round last year. Uh, I'm drawing a 348 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: blank to yeah, or I used Tyler Ruise, Yeah, because 349 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 1: they had to go two centers slash guards and both 350 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 1: of them can do both, you know, and they're both 351 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 1: high picks, you know, So it's not uncommon. It isn't 352 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:41,439 Speaker 1: at all. And I think you know, a lot of 353 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: people if if they hadn't listened to this show or 354 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: some of the triple takes that we did, didn't know 355 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: who Kendrick Green was, and that was the shock. Well, 356 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 1: how could they pass on this this guy who was 357 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: you know, uh, you know, top rated guy and they 358 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: take Kendrick Green and they must have taken a guy 359 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: who's a lesser value. No, Kendrick Green's good, and they 360 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: may had a higher grade it on Humphrey, but I 361 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: guarantee they were in the same tier that there was. 362 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 1: And there might have been a couple of guys in 363 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,719 Speaker 1: that tier too, I mean maybe Josh Meyers and um 364 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: Humphrey and probably two or three other If you look 365 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: at the look at the center position, Dickerson went overall, 366 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 1: which again, by the way, he's gonna play guard next year. Yeah, 367 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 1: which is that's he can he can do that again. 368 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: He's another guy that moved all over the place, played 369 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: all five positions at one time or another in college. 370 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 1: I mean, I think the Eagles look at him as 371 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: a starting guard who will probably be Kelsey's replacement, and 372 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 1: he hangs it up. Yeah, if he can stay healthy, 373 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: if he can stay yeah. Josh Meyers went at thirty. 374 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 1: They'll probably probably be the second round as the starting 375 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 1: center because they lost it for big money. Uh Humphrey 376 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: went U picked thirty one in the second round. I 377 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 1: assume he'll be their starting center. They positions, but I 378 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 1: think he'll be the center. And then Kendrick Green went 379 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: at four in the third in the third round, with 380 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: Drew Dalman Trey Hill right after him. Those are your 381 00:19:57,880 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: those top hill on that level. But the other ones 382 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: I would put all the Dolmen and Green are going 383 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: to be starters in the league sooner rather than later. 384 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, without question, you know, I I think that's 385 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: a that's a gimme. So you have, you know, four 386 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 1: or five starting centers there, and we didn't even mention 387 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: miners right drafted as a guard, I'm not sure where 388 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: hoping in year one with their But I bet he's 389 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 1: a center, and the Steelers I think really look at 390 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: it that. You know, if Green had played center his 391 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: entire college career, he probably goes up higher on that list, 392 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: probably because then he's the the athletics center as opposed 393 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: to you know, there's more athletic guards at pool and 394 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: what you know. Now it makes them a little bit 395 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: of a smaller community. Yeah, I think you're probably right 396 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 1: about that. I'm not that awful of a conversion. It's 397 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: not that especially if he's already done. It's already done, right, 398 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 1: So if he goes into I'm sure that when they 399 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: picked up the phone to congratulating for being a Steeler, 400 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: they said you're going to be a center. Oh, they 401 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: absolutely did. He said that right away. Yeah, what's he 402 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:06,919 Speaker 1: practicing now, hap, And he'll do nothing but that for 403 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: the next six months until they play a game. Yeah, 404 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 1: it's not like they don't have tape of him doing 405 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 1: it in a game. They're not asking him to be 406 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: a wide receiver, you know what I mean. Yeah, I 407 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,679 Speaker 1: think he can make the conversion. But you look at 408 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: that running back position again. Nausea Harris won at twenty four. 409 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 1: Travis A t and A. And then Javonte Williams Denver 410 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: traded up to the third pick in the second round, 411 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: they get him. If if if the Steelers had traded 412 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: back even to the top of the third round, there's 413 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: no guarantee they get any of those guys because the 414 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: first two already fell, Right If A t N still 415 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: falls and then Harris is out there and somebody grabs them, 416 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: teams were willing to move to go up and get 417 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 1: those guys. Get those three. Yeah, the league very much 418 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,479 Speaker 1: affirmed what you and I said going into the draft, 419 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 1: that these three are going to be coveted. And then 420 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: and then there were fifty picks between Javonte Williams and 421 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 1: Trey Sermon. How often has that happen? You know, the 422 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: running backs? Fifty picks with out being taken, you know, 423 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 1: and then Carter went there was a mini run on 424 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: on running backs in the fourth round. I don't know 425 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: that there's you know, Carter went, uh and Guan Wu 426 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 1: I can't renounce that. Uh. From MYO State to the Vikings, 427 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 1: VERMONDI Stevenson to the Patriots, and then Cuba Hubbard goes 428 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 1: in the fourth round to the Panthers. But the exceptional sermon. 429 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 1: I don't want any of those other guys though none 430 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: of those guys are looking. I mean, I like Michael 431 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 1: number one. Yeah, I like Michael Carter. If you're if 432 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,439 Speaker 1: you're going with a committee guy and you know, you know, 433 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: if you had James Conner, Michael Carter is still a 434 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: fine addition. Maybe a year ago you would add Michael Carter, 435 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: but not in this situation. And to that point, I've 436 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: been thinking about this too, Like, I don't know that 437 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 1: a t M would have fixed the problem. He's a 438 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: really good player. I was listening to some stuff some 439 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 1: uh and it was fantasy related. But these guys are 440 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: tied in in Jacksonville and they're talking about a t 441 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: N being a guy who gets the ball, you know, 442 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: ten twelve times a game. Yeah, I think they like Robinson. 443 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: They're just adding pieces around. Winson will be the first 444 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:02,679 Speaker 1: and second down runner. A t N will be the 445 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: third down back and maybe get a you know, a 446 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 1: few carries here and there. If that's the case, I 447 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: think gets an awful pick. Yeah you dressed a third 448 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: round a third down back in the first round when 449 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: you need everything. Yeah, yeah, I tend to agree. I 450 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: mean that special I mean you could have waited and 451 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 1: got Kenneth Gamewell exactly and done the same thing, same thing. 452 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: Yeah right, that would have made more sense. I mean, 453 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 1: I know they're just trying to make Lawrence's life as 454 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 1: easy as possible, and it's comfortable, and I'm not sure 455 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: got a roommate, yeah right, But I'm not sure that 456 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: the A t N fixes the Steelers problem. No, I 457 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: don't think he does. If you're gonna use him like, yeah, 458 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: I think I think he could would be a welcome 459 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 1: I think he's capable of handling touches a game. Uh, 460 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 1: but not the way Harris is. They might be looking 461 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 1: for someone that has touches game. Yeah, well to that point, 462 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: I went back and looked at how the Steelers used 463 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 1: Levy on Bell his rookie. Yeah, he ever twenty two 464 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,919 Speaker 1: touches a game in his rookie rookie year, and he 465 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: wasn't nearly the he wasn't left Bell yet. No, you 466 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Harris is better and Harris way better. Yeah. Yeah, 467 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: he's a way better prospect. I mean, if Harris gets 468 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 1: twenty two touches a game as a rookie, he might 469 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: be rookie of the year in the league time seventeen games, 470 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: you know, including four or five of those or catches 471 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 1: per game. Yeah, that's a lot of touchdounds. He's gonna 472 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: the production is gonna be there, the usage is gonna 473 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: be there. Mike Tomlins does not shy away from using 474 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 1: a primary running back, and Harris is clear far and 475 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: away the best running back on their roster right now. 476 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 1: It's gonna be not a secret at all. I'm sure 477 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 1: when we're a camp he's really like, well, Harris will 478 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 1: get the ball over and over and over and probably 479 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: tell the media that everyone knows it. Yeah, so, I 480 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 1: you know, if that's what you want from that position, 481 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: you can't have the Snells and McFarland's. That's that And 482 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: to me, that goes back to what we were talking 483 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: about why you couldn't wait to take a running back 484 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: to you know, again, if you waited to the second round, 485 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: if you wait until pick fifty five, you we had 486 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 1: a luck weren't getting one. I mean, the more I 487 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: think about it, Harris, Williams, Friar muth Long are the 488 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: only four that fit those two positions what you really 489 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,199 Speaker 1: want from them? And it doesn't mean you overdrafted him, 490 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: but it was a small pool to pick from at 491 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: those two spots. No, I agree, you know, of the prototype, 492 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,439 Speaker 1: what we're gonna ask him this position? You were in 493 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: the kiddie pool and there were you know, some of 494 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: the other positions were the Olympic sized you know, the 495 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 1: offensive tackle was an Olympic sized pool. Yeah, you know, 496 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: running back was a little hot tub. Tight end was 497 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 1: a hot tub off the side. They gladly would have 498 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 1: taken Penny Sewell too, you know what I mean, or 499 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 1: if there was a center. And I thought it was 500 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 1: telling that Kevin Colbert said this, and I didn't catch 501 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: it right away, um until I was reading back over 502 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:57,479 Speaker 1: the transcript later he said that that, uh nausea. Harris 503 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 1: was one of the eight guys they had targeted in 504 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: their top eight guys. So when they put together their 505 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: list of twenty four, they had him in their top eight. Like, 506 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if Justin Fields or any the quarterbacks 507 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: would be in that mix. I think Justin Fields probably was, 508 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: but Sewell was on that. Pits was on that man. 509 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 1: I mean, they they addressed the tight end position. If 510 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: if Pits had been available, they would have taken it. 511 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: That's what I mean. I didn't hear how Kevin phrased it. 512 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: Does that mean he was their top eight player? He 513 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 1: was a top eight. He was a top eight player 514 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 1: for them, Okay, I mean I guess I can buy that. 515 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: Like two years ago, Minca Fitzpatrick was their number one 516 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: rated defensive player in that draft, and we did the 517 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: homework on Bush. Bush went ten. He was probably their 518 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: seventh or eight, you know, I mean it worst. Yeah, 519 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 1: So I mean that's how it works out for the 520 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,719 Speaker 1: way they do their their their board. Again, when we 521 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: were putting together our twenty four, you kind of I 522 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: think he was it was like fourteen fifteen is something 523 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,880 Speaker 1: like Harris was around eleven or twelve for me because 524 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: I put some of the quarterbacks behind him. And I 525 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: think that's obviously if they if they had him eight, 526 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 1: they didn't have all the quarterbacks ahead of him. But 527 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,400 Speaker 1: I wonder, I mean, it's Trevor Lawrence one of those. 528 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 1: I mean, like I would think Trevor Lawrence probably was, 529 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,239 Speaker 1: but like they knew they had no chance at him, 530 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: the Lawrences and Pits. You know, did they do their 531 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: board exactly like we did our top twenty four? Yeah, 532 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 1: that I don't know and don't never tell us. Yeah, 533 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: we need for that one. But yeah, or is that 534 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: of of reasonable guys that they have a chance at. 535 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: He's one of the time. I think I think they're 536 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 1: I think the way they do it, dude, if he's 537 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: if he's in the top eight, they just went by 538 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,679 Speaker 1: the guys that they wanted. It makes me think they 539 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: would take him over every defensive player, over every receiver. 540 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 1: Maybe not every defensive player, like if certain had been there, 541 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 1: maybe you take him or worn probably, but there weren't 542 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: many guys that they would have taken him, certainly over 543 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,719 Speaker 1: the edges. I wonder if it was I bet they 544 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: like Xavin Collins. He's one that I'm just they didn't 545 00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 1: have a chance at at this one, and I just 546 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: wonder if he would have been there, did they run 547 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: the car? Was Derri saw on that list? You know, 548 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. Interesting I would think that I would 549 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 1: think that those three tackles were all on that list. 550 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: Have to be ahead, yeah, you know, they have to be, 551 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: But there aren't many guys that you take ahead of them. No, 552 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 1: there really isn't it. And it kind of goes back 553 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 1: to it not being a wonderful draft, you know, like 554 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 1: usually there's three edge guys that I would love to 555 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: have that. Defensively, it was not a great draft there 556 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: other than linebackering. Linebackers, cornerbacks were deep, yeah, but maybe 557 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: not the pure star power that that you look for. Yeah, 558 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:37,880 Speaker 1: and decent, But again, I think drafts you can get 559 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 1: very focused on just what's here, so it's all relative 560 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: to the other players on the board. But if you 561 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: look back five years from now, I bet we'll look 562 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: at this class and say it wasn't wonderful, you know, 563 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: because there's not a guys. You know, they were eligible 564 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: for fewer guys, yeah, right, and they knew less. But 565 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: that that means there could be some gems. Yeah. Absolutely, 566 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: but we're gonna take a key is Matt Williamson. I'm 567 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: Dale Lally. 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