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Speaker 2: Everybody. Welcome to another episode of butter Nomics. I'm your host,

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Speaker 2: Brandon Butler, found a CEO of butter atl And today

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Speaker 2: we got one of my guys up in here. Man,

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Speaker 2: we got one of my guys, a friend, a business partner. Uh,

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Speaker 2: just you know, somebody like to hang out and talk

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Speaker 2: some shit with sometimes, you know what I'm saying? On

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Speaker 2: a good way? Man, How you doing, man.

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Speaker 1: I'm ready to talk some shit.

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Speaker 2: The one and only mister Peter Coley of Monday Night Garage,

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Speaker 2: Monday Night Brew and Peter, how you doing, baby?

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Speaker 1: I'm great? Thank you for having me. I mean, what

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Speaker 1: an honor right? I feel like I talk to you

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Speaker 1: for free, and now we get to do it officially.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, now we get now everybody to see what we

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Speaker 1: I don't want that. I don't want that at all.

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Speaker 2: So, Peter, we've been doing something a little different here on

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right.

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Speaker 2: Normally I have people kind of introduce themselves and kind

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Speaker 2: instead I asked chat GPT, oh shit, who is Peter

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Speaker 2: Coyley of Monday Night Garage, Monday Night Brewing, And see

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Speaker 2: what it says. So let me tell you what it said.

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Speaker 2: And I want you to tell me. Is this an accurate,

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Speaker 2: you know, description of you and all of your amazing accomplishments,

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Speaker 2: Peter is the brewmaster at Monday Night Brewing, a craft

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Speaker 2: brewery based in Atlanta, Georgia. He joined the company in

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Speaker 2: January twenty thirteen, bringing with him a wealth of experience

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Speaker 2: that has significantly significantly contributed to the breweries growth and reputation.

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Speaker 2: Under his leadership, Monday Night Brewing has spanning his operations

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Speaker 2: The brewery is known for a diverse range of beers,

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Speaker 2: His innovative approach to brewing is evident in his development

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Speaker 2: craft beer movement. That's what Chatchept said about you, scale

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Speaker 1: A real one. Got a few things wrong. We got

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Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't really matter, But I heard you

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Speaker 1: They don't hand out enough trophies for adults, and probably

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Speaker 1: Man? I think it was when I met my now wife. Okay,

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Speaker 1: You know, I was always just chasing something I didn't

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Speaker 2: Do people ever ask you or challenge you on why you,

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Speaker 1: One hundred percent, And anyone's entitled to their opinion, you know,

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Speaker 1: the way that I do, if I choose to. I

432
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Speaker 1: will acknowledge that and educate them around that idea. But

433
00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,040
Speaker 1: if you can't see the beauty and just asking questions,

434
00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:26,200
Speaker 1: being curious and really trying to better understand someone else's

435
00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,240
Speaker 1: point of view, and not going into a conversation with

436
00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,840
Speaker 1: your ideas already solidified or your point of view already concrete,

437
00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:36,679
Speaker 1: then like, I wish you the best, but there's so

438
00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,760
Speaker 1: much to learn. I think that people forget that taking

439
00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,919
Speaker 1: the approach of being a constant student. At times I

440
00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,199
Speaker 1: find myself being a teacher, But more so than not,

441
00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,560
Speaker 1: I'm just a student. I like to soak things up.

442
00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,200
Speaker 1: People tell you a lot about themselves when they don't

443
00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,880
Speaker 1: think that you're really listening, and also when people show

444
00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,960
Speaker 1: you who they are, believe them right. Maya said it,

445
00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,679
Speaker 1: So I just like to now operate and where I

446
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,920
Speaker 1: like to be around people that understand who they are.

447
00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,880
Speaker 1: I talk about this too a lot at work, where

448
00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, I like to deal with butterflies, I don't

449
00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,120
Speaker 1: like to deal with caterpillars. I don't like to deal

450
00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,879
Speaker 1: with cocoons as much. What I mean by that is, like,

451
00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:16,639
Speaker 1: you know, a caterpillar, they don't know who they are

452
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,880
Speaker 1: yet cocoon. You're going through your journey, you know, your

453
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Speaker 1: whole transformation, all right. I might rock with you to

454
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:23,960
Speaker 1: see what you come out like. But I like to

455
00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:25,760
Speaker 1: be around people that know who they are, know what

456
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,760
Speaker 1: they want to, know what's important to them. Because the

457
00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:30,919
Speaker 1: people that are really interesting in this world are the

458
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Speaker 1: people that are curious. But there's certain things about them

459
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Speaker 1: they won't waver on. And you know, it's the inconsistent

460
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,280
Speaker 1: ones you got to worry about. So I got some

461
00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,640
Speaker 1: buddies out there who, you know, they serve great purposes

462
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,760
Speaker 1: in my life, but I'm like, you're an asshole. But

463
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Speaker 1: you know what, they're consistently an asshole. You know, I

464
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:54,119
Speaker 1: can build around that. But yeah, so I don't know.

465
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Speaker 1: People will always be curious, and hopefully they do that

466
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Speaker 1: in a friendly way. If people don't see or appreciate,

467
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Speaker 1: then eat or just living a diverse life, having a

468
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:07,160
Speaker 1: diverse group of friends, man, blessings on them. I really

469
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,359
Speaker 1: hope that they find their way because why live in

470
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Speaker 1: a city like Atlanta if you're just gonna stay in

471
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:16,440
Speaker 1: your bubble? Right? Like what a tragy? It's like driving

472
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 1: a Lamborghini at five miles an hour every day, like

473
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:19,680
Speaker 1: you got to let it rip.

474
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean there's so many to your point,

475
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 2: there's so many just different people perspectives, especially once you

476
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 2: kind of find that those communities that when you really

477
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 2: tap into it just feels authentic. It just makes sense

478
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 2: to sit here and figure out ways you can learn

479
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 2: from folks and just learn about things you didn't know about,

480
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,199
Speaker 2: you know. Like again, I have friends from all different

481
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 2: walks of life, different cultures, and one of the things

482
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Speaker 2: I really enjoy with them is food, you know, because

483
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Speaker 2: you know, growing up out here in Atlanta, you know, look,

484
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:45,919
Speaker 2: I pretty much grew up a soul food you know,

485
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Speaker 2: And so you know, meeting friends that are from different

486
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Speaker 2: parts of the world or just have different experiences and

487
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Speaker 2: in them exposing me to new things and me learning

488
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Speaker 2: what I like about that. It is just one of

489
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Speaker 2: the things that I really kind of enjoy about, you know, again,

490
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:58,920
Speaker 2: just having diverse groups of people that you want to

491
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Speaker 2: connect with. It's very easy to kind of just stay

492
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,440
Speaker 2: in that bubble. But no, like I want to learn more.

493
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 2: And you know, for me, like, yeah, I like to eat,

494
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 2: so you know, I'm getting easy. Show me something, show

495
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:08,639
Speaker 2: me something new.

496
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Speaker 1: I want to try it out, see something, eat something,

497
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Speaker 1: all right, Right, So let me ask.

498
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Speaker 2: You man, you know you do everything over there, like

499
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 2: what when you started this and to where you are now?

500
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Speaker 2: And have you all been working Money Night? Like, what's

501
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 2: something that you know you wish you would have known,

502
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,920
Speaker 2: especially more on the business side. You know, his Money

503
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 2: Night has kind of grown and evolved into what it

504
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:28,160
Speaker 2: is now.

505
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Speaker 1: I feel like there's a lot of lessons to take

506
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Speaker 1: away from, you know, business in general. Oftentimes, I more

507
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 1: so kicked myself around the people that I chose to

508
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,640
Speaker 1: be around at times. You know, people that you think

509
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,879
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, this person's going to bring this to

510
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 1: the table, but instead they bring some bullshit. You know,

511
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 1: There's one thing that I do know to be very

512
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Speaker 1: true about business and something that I really try to

513
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 1: now be a champion of, and that is that there's

514
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 1: an immense amount of inequality around access to capital. And

515
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:03,440
Speaker 1: that's one of the biggest challenges I think for anyone

516
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,679
Speaker 1: in business obviously is access to capital, but just especially

517
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 1: in Atlanta. You see it, it's so fucking clear. Anyone

518
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 1: that tells you otherwise they either part of the system

519
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 1: that's broken or they just have no idea what's going on.

520
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 1: And so you know, we've had the luxury at times

521
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Speaker 1: of having access to capital, and sometimes we've also just

522
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 1: been you know, broke, like we talked about earlier. But

523
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,879
Speaker 1: that's one of those things that as I think about

524
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 1: our business and the things that I learned, is that

525
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 1: if you have access to capital, the likelihood of your

526
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Speaker 1: business succeeding dramatically increases, especially in the beginning, because he's

527
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 1: got to weather the storm, right, you got to wait

528
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 1: until you hit that inflection point. Oftentimes that's just doggy paddling, right,

529
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 1: you don't get to get going. And I think that

530
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 1: that is it. Being a business owner is very humbling, right.

531
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 1: It's so easy to work for another business and you're like, man,

532
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 1: making stupid decisions and doing it wrong. If I was

533
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 1: in that seat, I'd be doing it there. It's like

534
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 1: you get in the seat and you're like, oh shit, yeah,

535
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 1: like I might want to go back to that job

536
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,719
Speaker 1: because because doing this on your own, like you know,

537
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,919
Speaker 1: whenever you build something, you got no one else to blame.

538
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 1: And so I just I oftentimes think about and it's

539
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 1: very humbling. I think about other people's journeys and I

540
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 1: talk with them and I try to help them to

541
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 1: either understand that, you know, the world is the way

542
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 1: that it is and that it's broken, and then you

543
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 1: got to fix it, and it takes people being vocal

544
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,159
Speaker 1: about it. You have to acknowledge a problem before you

545
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 1: address a problem. But then from there it's just also

546
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 1: just trying to help people that don't have access to

547
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 1: capital to really show them the unique ways that you

548
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 1: can get by because at the end of the day,

549
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 1: almost definitely not all businesses, but a lot of them.

550
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,919
Speaker 1: If you got the money, you can ride. Yeah, you

551
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 1: can get there. If you don't have the money, then

552
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 1: it's like So it's one of those things I'm very

553
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,119
Speaker 1: passionate about, and I don't want to pop off on

554
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: the microphone about this, but it's one of the biggest

555
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 1: problems and opportunities inside of Atlanta right now, is how

556
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 1: we generate access to capital and really helping people that

557
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,400
Speaker 1: have great ideas be able to see those ideas through.

558
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 1: Because things were hard for my neighboring but I promise you,

559
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 1: as a group of white guys, it was a lot easier.

560
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 1: And that's just facts. No, it's interesting.

561
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Speaker 2: I was actually having a very similar conversation with a

562
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Speaker 2: friend of mine recently when we were kind of talking

563
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Speaker 2: about some of the challenges that black owned businesses face

564
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 2: versus you know, white owned businesses or non black own

565
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 2: business and what I kind of told me, I said,

566
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Speaker 2: you know what, one of the things that I noticed

567
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 2: is a lot of times when we have with black

568
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 2: owned businesses, you know, people are starting to be already

569
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,160
Speaker 2: cash strap, you don't have access to capital. A lot

570
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,679
Speaker 2: of times because of that, it's hard to get the

571
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 2: right people you need on board because sometimes your point

572
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 2: and sometimes you just end up grabbing the people that

573
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 2: are close to you, which might be friends and family,

574
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 2: which they might not necessarily be the right person for

575
00:26:59,320 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 2: that role.

576
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Speaker 1: Right.

577
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:01,880
Speaker 2: But like on the flip side, if you are able

578
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 2: to go out and raise money or or get capital,

579
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 2: think about how much more successful you have been coming

580
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 2: out the gate if you could go actually hire a

581
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 2: director of sales or hire a director of market Right.

582
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 2: And I said, like, it's like little things like that

583
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 2: that when you ask why do things work the way

584
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 2: they work? It's like, well, that's one of the big

585
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 2: things I've noticed because I've also I've also worked with

586
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 2: a lot of startups, and again, the reality is most

587
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,719
Speaker 2: of those starts I worked with are not led by

588
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 2: black people. But when I look at I say, wow, Like,

589
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 2: you know, regardless of if there was there's always gonna

590
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 2: be some level of struggle, but to be able to

591
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 2: have some capital or access to it and be able

592
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 2: to just hire a couple of key people to help

593
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 2: you get out the gate.

594
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 1: Do you think that the Yankees be winning these championships

595
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 1: because they ain't got money? In many ways, it's easy

596
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: to it's a what easier to to buy success? Yeah,

597
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 1: And to your point earlier, I guess it kind of

598
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 1: was like, you know, skirting around the idea of like

599
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 1: in the beginning. Sometimes you just got to take where

600
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: you can take right. It's transformative when you can design

601
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: your dream to right. And anyone that knows business knows

602
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,479
Speaker 1: that it's all about the team. It's all about people.

603
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: People in business are forever linked. Right, If you don't

604
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 1: understand people, you probably won't do well at business. And

605
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 1: if you want to do well at business, you need

606
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 1: to have the right people. And to do that, you

607
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 1: got to understand them. You got to, Like we always

608
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: talk about this, I would so much rather make money

609
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 1: on a team than try at it alone. I don't

610
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 1: care about giving things away, especially when you start a business.

611
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 1: You know what's a couple percent of zero, you know

612
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like let people eat, let them be

613
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: a part of it in a meaningful way. You want

614
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 1: to get the best out of someone. People will always

615
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 1: do their best when they feel liked and loved, when

616
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: they feel appreciated, when they feel connected. And that's for

617
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 1: all age ranges, you know what I mean, for adults

618
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: all the way down the kids, and so it's just

619
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,959
Speaker 1: it's an important idea. And when you have capital, you

620
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: can get the right people, or you can offer them

621
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: the things that will make them actually stick around, and

622
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 1: you can create a culture. You can create a business

623
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 1: that has a chance. But if you ain't got the capital,

624
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: you're just gonna be what you're dealing with.

625
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 2: You already had enough challenges, right, But it's being a

626
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 2: little bit easier if you had somebody in there that understanding.

627
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 2: And even speaking of understanding, like you know, I was

628
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 2: also talking to another buddy of mine who owns a business.

629
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,479
Speaker 2: He actually had a really interesting perspective I had never

630
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 2: heard before. One of the things he says with his businesses,

631
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 2: he requires all of his employees to start their own

632
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 2: company within two years of working there, damn. And you know,

633
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 2: and then he says, you know, look like at a

634
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 2: certain point, you know, people are going to leave, which

635
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 2: is inevitable. But one of the reasons why we wanted

636
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 2: to start their own business is because they start to

637
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 2: think more like a business owner. Like there's a lot

638
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 2: easier when people are like, oh shit, well that's why

639
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 2: that happens, or that that's why you're doing that.

640
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: You need it gives.

641
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 2: Them some perspective. But then he also talks about it

642
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 2: kind of creates this when we talked about it, I said,

643
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 2: it's almost like a coaching tree in a sense to

644
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 2: where a lot of times the businesses that they end

645
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 2: up starting, even if it's not like something they go

646
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 2: do full time, it's just a side hustle or something

647
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 2: like that. It also they then support the business. So like,

648
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 2: you know, he had one person that went out and

649
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 2: started you know, doing like a like writing books or

650
00:29:58,280 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 2: something like that, and they made it a point to

651
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 2: make sure they bought those books and gave them back.

652
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 2: They had another person that was you know, doing something

653
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 2: around like I think, created like cups or something like that,

654
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 2: and they actually made a point to buy and purchased

655
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 2: those things and so but it was it was just

656
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 2: really interesting when he said that, because I had never

657
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 2: heard that perspective before. But the biggest thing I know,

658
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 2: I said, so now you can now get your employees

659
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 2: and they understand when you when you see something broken,

660
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 2: they think like a business owner now more like just

661
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 2: an employee.

662
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: Who is the person that told you that? Because you

663
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: need to give them a shout out? They sound smart?

664
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 2: Shout out my boy Cam from holiday bar Man Cam, let's go.

665
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: It's talking to Cane the other day on the phone

666
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: and on your birthday.

667
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I remember bits and pieces of that conversation.

668
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 1: For y'all listening, and they were on one. But you know,

669
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 1: there's a real truth about the saying that you know

670
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: your network is your net worth. Yeah, and the order

671
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 1: you get you start to better understand what that means.

672
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: But it's a great idea to you know, jump in,

673
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: get a taste of it on your own. Like you said,

674
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 1: it's always humbling. Perspective is always humbling, at least it

675
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: should be. If it's not, then I don't know what's

676
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: going on with you. But then from there, you're right,

677
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: you start creating this network of people that believe in you,

678
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 1: you know, when I started with money night brewing to

679
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 1: where I am now with the businesses that we've launched

680
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: since then. It's kind of also like that idea where

681
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: you're like, Okay, you start to learn, you start to

682
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 1: soak up, and then you got to good practice. Right,

683
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: what's the point of like, you know, just doing the

684
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: work to not go apply it somewhere? Yep, you know,

685
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: And that's what's led me to launching other businesses. But

686
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: it's a really good point that can make.

687
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 2: One last question I have just in this area is

688
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 2: as a person that start off in wine making and

689
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,239
Speaker 2: then you're going to beer and now you're getting more

690
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 2: into spirits in general, what's just something that we should

691
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 2: know about each one of those that, like for the

692
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 2: for the uninitiated, you know, that don't have the depth

693
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 2: of knowledge experience, like when they're when they're when they're

694
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 2: trying outline they're trying to be like, what's something that

695
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 2: you wish the average person maybe doesn't have the level

696
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 2: understanding you have just knew about the different those different things.

697
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: I'm not going to give you the answer that you wants,

698
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: or maybe that you're seeking, but alcohol, food, all the

699
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 1: things that are truly great about living, you know, some

700
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: of this is the things that make life so interesting.

701
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: I think of it like you know, just music. Think

702
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 1: of it like music. Whatever you like is okay. If

703
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,479
Speaker 1: you want to go have a board though with an

704
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: ice cream cake, you know what I mean? Like live

705
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: live your life. But really I think that if you

706
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: find meaning in it, if you find purpose, if you

707
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 1: find enjoyment, whatever it is, it's good, go do it.

708
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 1: Don't let someone tell you how to enjoy your life.

709
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: I did that for a while, you know, as a psalm.

710
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: I'd always be like, you know, this is how I

711
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: recommend drinking this, This is what you should taste, this

712
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: is what you should pair it with. And you rob

713
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: someone of the opportunity just to experience it on their own,

714
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: you know. I think about that with the kids. It's like,

715
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: you know, do you want to be like a carpenter?

716
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: You want to be a gardener? Right? Do you want

717
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: to build it for them and show them exactly how

718
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: to build it so they build that same thing the

719
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: same way that you talked to them how to build it.

720
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: Would you rather than just go garden and try to

721
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 1: see how if they can keep that idea alive, if

722
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 1: they can grow it, what it can turn into. I'd

723
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: rather people just enjoy life from the point of view

724
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: of like, if you're curious to know before you go,

725
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: I'm here for you. Yeah, but I don't want to

726
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: rob you the opportunity of experiencing something truly unique on

727
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: your own. So I have a lot of opinions around flavor,

728
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: and it's so subjective. What you experience is not gonna

729
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,479
Speaker 1: be what I experience. So why should I tell you

730
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: that my experience is more valid than yours. I feel

731
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: like that's also a really big problem in the world

732
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 1: that we live in right now. So people just deserve

733
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: a People deserve nice things. If you're out there, buy

734
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: nice stuff. You don't need to have, you know, something

735
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: special to enjoy something special. I always drink my best

736
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: stuff on my worst days because you know, I've got

737
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: to make them better, and on good days everything tastes great,

738
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So yeah, that's kind of

739
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: my general take on it. It's more of a philosophy.

740
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 2: No, I'd love it, man, I love it now more recently,

741
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 2: you started doing some you know, I mean, obviously you've

742
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 2: been getting more into spirits and everything.

743
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: But you just.

744
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 2: Launched yacht water. Let's go with the one and only

745
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,720
Speaker 2: little YACHTI And that's been an experience in a journey.

746
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 2: How did that whole thing come about?

747
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: Oh man, that's such a fun story, Miles. I don't

748
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 1: know if people get to engage with him enough, but

749
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 1: if they do, they they'll know this be really true

750
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 1: about him. He's one of the most honest, in direct

751
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: people I have had the pleasure of engaging with, and

752
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 1: those things don't bug me. There's definitely been times when

753
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 1: I've been maybe just a little more insecure or vulnerable

754
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: around my thoughts or my beliefs. There were people like

755
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: that can really shake you up. But being around him,

756
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: it's really refreshing. And also he's just he's nice. He's

757
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 1: like actually kind. Once again, that goes back to this

758
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 1: idea of like the smartest people tend to be the

759
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: kindest people. Boats. I think a lot of people think

760
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 1: that they understand him, or maybe they just know what

761
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 1: he puts out there. But it's been a real pleasure

762
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: getting to work with him and build this business with him.

763
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: You know that kind of started Coach and I connected.

764
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: I don't know years ago. I don't know exactly where

765
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 1: it is chronologically in my head. I'm not great with time.

766
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 1: But I originally pitched him on this idea of being

767
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 1: an investor, and then we had a great meeting. You

768
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 1: shared some pizza over at the garage, just went back

769
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 1: and forth around ideas. We end up talking about everything

770
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: besides the point of the meeting. Yeah, And so I

771
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: hit him back up and I was like, I got

772
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: a crazy idea, Coach, and coaches like, yeah, what's that, Peter?

773
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: And by the way, when I see Coach, I'm talking

774
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 1: about Kevin Lee. And I was like, instead of just

775
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: being part of this financially, do you want to be

776
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: my business partner? And he was like, damn, I thought

777
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: you would never ask. And I was like great. So

778
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: then we had to go and pitch little YACHTI on

779
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: this idea. He's never really been a fan of drinking alcohol,

780
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: and so Coach is like, look, if you don't like it,

781
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: you're going to know and I was like, I know,

782
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 1: fully where. So we sat down and eating some pizza again,

783
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 1: pizza's always you know, at the table, and he tried

784
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 1: it and he was like, this's the first thing I

785
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,760
Speaker 1: actually like, and so from there it's just kind of been.

786
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 1: That was like the first go moment. But I don't

787
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,439
Speaker 1: believe in endorsements. I really think that's like a weird

788
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: way of operating businesses, especially in the alcohol space. I

789
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: don't want someone just to be like, you know, on

790
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 1: the surface level, a part of something. I believe in

791
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 1: having meaningful business partners, you know, meaningful engagement. So if

792
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 1: I'm going to do something and I need someone to

793
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 1: help me build this thing, I'm like, be a co founder.

794
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: I'm not stingy, I'm probably like bad at business in

795
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: this way. I'm the first person to be like, you

796
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: want to be a part of it, great, here's some equity.

797
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: Let's build this together, because I mean, that's really what

798
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: you do. That's if you're just like, no, I'm just

799
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: going to pay you. You stay in the side, you

800
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 1: do what I tell you to do, And that's the

801
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: relationship people know when they're being lied to more and

802
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 1: more now and it just feels so hollow. So I'm like,

803
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,959
Speaker 1: if you need someone to build something, honor them, show

804
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: them that it's important to you by letting them be

805
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: actually on the team. And so that was kind of

806
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: where it started, me Rachel Coach and YACHTI coming together

807
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: and starting this idea of yacht water, which for people

808
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: that don't know, because yacht water is brand new, it's

809
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: a very novel idea. Exactly what it says on the

810
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 1: can is what's in the drink, no surprise anything. So

811
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: we're doing a six month aged repisado, added a free tequila,

812
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: fresh fruit juice, a little bit of sea salt, and

813
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: then purified water. That's it. And nowadays there's so much

814
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: shit that goes into what we consume, and I some

815
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: one that has more knowledge around you know, food science.

816
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: There's a lot of dark stuff out there and things

817
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: that we've just kind of gotten acclimated to. You saw

818
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: a big shift in the FDA around nineteen fifty and

819
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: we all know this now. The stuff that's in our

820
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 1: food and our drinks, it's not okay. There's a lot

821
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: of stuff that's not okay. So I just wanted to

822
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 1: create a differ perspective. And I think that's what we

823
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 1: all came from, is that we wanted something real. We

824
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 1: wanted something that was actually put the consumer first, and

825
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: a lot of people to honor themselves by consuming it

826
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: and the name Yachtwater was kind of just like a joke,

827
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,240
Speaker 1: and you know, people are like, oh, it's cuz Yaudi.

828
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, the name existed actually before. But when

829
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 1: I pitched him on it, he was like, yeah, I

830
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,439
Speaker 1: love that name. And he was like why the name,

831
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: And I was like, I don't know, It's just I've

832
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 1: never been on a yeat. I've been on a I've

833
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: been on an inner tube, I've been on a pontoon boat.

834
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: But it just, you know, it just felt better than

835
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 1: it felt like you're doing something nice for yourself, right. Yeah,

836
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: So we created that and it's now launching and it's exciting.

837
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 2: How's the reception business this going out? Like, how's that

838
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:42,439
Speaker 2: experience been?

839
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: It's good. You know, obviously a lot of people's takes

840
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: on it because we're not like, you know, blasting this

841
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: from the mountaintops. Is that people just think it's another

842
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: celebrity endorsement. They think it's another celebrity entering the space.

843
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: But I can tell you people want to come look

844
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 1: at the books. This is a true ass startup. We're

845
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: not backed by some massive corporation. We're not like, you know,

846
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 1: using a bunch of like you know the capital that

847
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,240
Speaker 1: we have, Like, we had a very defined, small budget

848
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,879
Speaker 1: and we're like, let's see if we can build from here. Yeah,

849
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: so we raised a little bit of money from just

850
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 1: like normal people, not corporations. When I actually when I

851
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,399
Speaker 1: raised money for this business, no one even knew that

852
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: Miles was going to be a part of the team.

853
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: There's still so many things that we had to work out.

854
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: He did have some other things legally that you know,

855
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: endorsements and whatnot. So it's just like a real startup

856
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 1: And it's a funny being in these meetings. People just

857
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 1: assume that we have something that we don't, which is

858
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: a lot of capital, and they're like, oh, you know,

859
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: it'll only be this. And then I remember sitting in

860
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: a meeting for some videos that we're shooting, and yeah,

861
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 1: he's like I got this. He's like, what's our budget.

862
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is the budget, and they gave us

863
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 1: some number and he was like, they're doing this number

864
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: because my name's on top of it, Like that's not

865
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: a friendly number. He goes back to them, he's like, no,

866
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 1: we're not doing that. This is the budget. This is

867
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 1: what we have. This is what we're sticking to. Maybe

868
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 1: five minutes later, you calls me back. He's like, right,

869
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,919
Speaker 1: we're back in budget, and I'm like, yes, let's go

870
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: save us some money, because you know, when you're starting

871
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: a business, every dollar is so important, and it's just

872
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 1: nice to know that, like, as we start this, that

873
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 1: whatever success we encounter, it will be done in a

874
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,919
Speaker 1: way that we actually know that we grew this from

875
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: the dirt and that we didn't do We didn't ask

876
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 1: for any handouts. We own our own business, and we'll

877
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:26,959
Speaker 1: be proud of that. I'm proud of it now, but

878
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: when we do reach success, I'll be really proud of

879
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 1: that fact. That's great.

880
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 2: That's great. If you know, you gotta get aside for

881
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 2: a second. If you could launch or collab on the

882
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 2: product with any artist, any entrepreneur, any person living or did, Like, what.

883
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,959
Speaker 1: What would you do? What would you collab be? Damn,

884
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 1: I'm afraid I'm gonna say something offensive. I don't know.

885
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 1: That's a great question. You can't ask me that on

886
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 1: the spot. I feel like I got to give you

887
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: a really intentional answer. I don't know. I mean, oftentimes

888
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: when I think about business, I don't know exactly who

889
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 1: I want to be going into business with until I

890
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: really learned to like them, you know, and I realized

891
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 1: that I can be around them. When you start a

892
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: business with someone, just think about work in general. Think

893
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: about how much your life you spend at work. Right,

894
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: So when you start a business someone, you have to

895
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: ask yourself, can I spend so much fucking time with

896
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: this person? And if it answers yes, then yeah, I

897
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 1: started business with them. Yeah, but I can't. I can't

898
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: give you an answer. And that's like telling me. I

899
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 1: asked me, like, what's my favorite album? It was like, damn,

900
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:32,720
Speaker 1: I'll start a business with you.

901
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 2: No, we should talk about that.

902
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: We should talk about that. Yeah, I got some ideas.

903
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh no, I'd make up one if I if

904
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 2: I could do anything, I'd say, I don't know, I'd

905
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 2: start like a flute company when Andre three thousand or

906
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 2: something like that.

907
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: Man, See you've had that to think about this just.

908
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 2: On the top of the head. Man, Like you know,

909
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 2: I'm like, if anybody start something Andre, you know, just because,

910
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 2: but just because. But I feel like, right now.

911
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if the flute industry is buffing right now. Though,

912
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: Hey man, look it's disruption. I got flute money.

913
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 2: A disruption at a whole new scale.

914
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:15,280
Speaker 1: Hey man, how'd you get that car? I got flute money?

915
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 1: Hey man?

916
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 2: Well look we're getting ready to wrap this up before

917
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:25,720
Speaker 2: we got out of here. Just when you think about

918
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 2: all the amazing impact you know that the Monday Night

919
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 2: and that you've had on this city, just you know,

920
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 2: what legacy do you want people to you want to

921
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 2: leave when people think about, you know, all the work

922
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 2: you've done out here.

923
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,399
Speaker 1: You know, one thing we didn't talk about was our

924
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: work together on the four or four Fund.

925
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you know what, Well we'll talking about startled.

926
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 2: Let's get into that for a second, because we are

927
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 2: doing some amazing work out here for four fund going

928
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 2: on with two plus years now.

929
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 1: Yep.

930
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:52,760
Speaker 2: For those that don't know, the four or four Fund

931
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 2: is a fund that Peter and I collaborated on. It

932
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 2: started about a year ago, year and a half ago,

933
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 2: and it's really about, as he all says, uh, you know,

934
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 2: being the helping helping mobilize the organizers, the people that

935
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 2: really go out here and make a difference in the city,

936
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 2: like us being able to go out here and do things.

937
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 2: And so we started this fund. We do it through

938
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 2: four or four day you know, last year we gave

939
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 2: away over thirty forty thousand dollars to small businesses, the

940
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 2: college students. You know, this year we're gearing up for

941
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 2: you know, another four or four day event is going

942
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,399
Speaker 2: to be an amazing But yeah, people like what even

943
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 2: inspired you to even start thinking about that idea? And

944
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 2: then you know, come and collaborate with me on that.

945
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 1: I think that the people that I look up to,

946
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: the real grades, you don't really see this as much

947
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 1: anymore with you know, the ultra wealthy. But like you

948
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: go to a city like Chicago, right, every museum, every

949
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 1: great building, someone contributed something that they wouldn't get to

950
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 1: experience in their lifetime that they knew would make things better.

951
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: If I ever have the ability to be financially successful,

952
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,720
Speaker 1: I would hope that and I'm telling this to myself.

953
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 1: Maybe in the future we have to get back. We

954
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: have to plant trees that we don't get the shade of.

955
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. We have to do work

956
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 1: that thinks about and creates the Atlanta that I mean

957
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 1: protecting land at all costs, right, but also Atlanta can

958
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 1: be better. I'll be the first person to say that

959
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: Atlanta is not a perfect place. It's a major city.

960
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: How could it be. There's so much that's wrong, right,

961
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: But this is this idea of kind of you know,

962
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: I want to be as reckless with my optimism as

963
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 1: I can be. I really do believe that if we

964
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: are focused and we come together and we don't let

965
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 1: the people and the powers that be try to divide us,

966
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: we can come together and we can create something great.

967
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 1: And all we have to do is get the right

968
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: people to start focusing on, either whether it's just telling

969
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,439
Speaker 1: the story of the people that are doing the great work,

970
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: or helping to receive funds and employing them in the

971
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 1: right places. But we as the four or Forefund, we

972
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 1: are a group of mobilizers and we try to go

973
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: and then get resources from all different kinds of walks

974
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: of life and then be able to redeploy them to

975
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 1: the people that we know they are actually doing the

976
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: great work. Because oftentimes, when you're doing the great work

977
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: and you're out there day in and day out and

978
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 1: you're fighting it, you're not out there marketing, You're not

979
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 1: out there, like you know, doing this whole apparatus that

980
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,879
Speaker 1: has to happen to go receive those funds. So the four.

981
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 1: Forefund is something that I think is the things that

982
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: I know that I will grow to be so proud of.

983
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 1: I'm proud of it now, but I know that the

984
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 1: work that we do with it and how we're able

985
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: to bring this city together and help educate and help

986
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: to also show people that it's so easy to complain.

987
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: Complaining about something is the easiest thing, and opinions are

988
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 1: the lowest form of thought. So if you've got an

989
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 1: opinion about something and you're ready to complain, how about

990
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 1: you take that energy and you go start actually finding

991
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 1: something that you believe in, something that you know that

992
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 1: could use your help. And I think that most people

993
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: walctually want to do good, they want to serve the community.

994
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 1: So we also can maybe in many ways be a

995
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: trusted source where be like, hey, you want to do

996
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 1: something good in the space. These are the leaders, These

997
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: are the people that we actually see in them impactful

998
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: work in the city. Go support them. And if we

999
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: can be a part of that, if we can be

1000
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 1: part of someone else's mission, if we can be a

1001
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: part of our own mission, as long as it betters

1002
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: and improves Atlanta, that's it. And that's a baton race,

1003
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: right every generation has to have those people that actually care,

1004
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 1: not just on a surface level, but deeply caring that

1005
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 1: we'll use their platform and their resources and their voice

1006
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 1: and their money and whatever it is to help create

1007
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: that change, because that changes doesn't happen passively. The only

1008
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 1: change that happens passively is the breakdown. You constantly have

1009
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 1: to keep building and reinforcing and protecting. If not, it

1010
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: will go away. The things that we love about the

1011
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 1: city are already under attack. The things that are wrong

1012
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: with the city every day are getting stronger. Right So

1013
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,839
Speaker 1: it's just this constant battle. And we see this right

1014
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: now in the world, right we see this in our

1015
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 1: own country. If you believe that something is wrong and broken,

1016
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: stand up, try to fix it. Don't complain about it's

1017
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: really easy getting this fingers on that keyboard and just

1018
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 1: typing away board.

1019
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 2: Courage is what I.

1020
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: Call that shit. Anyone everyone's tough behind the computer screen, right,

1021
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: you know, in their mom's basement. Shout out to the

1022
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 1: people in their mom's basement. But yeah, so it's it's

1023
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:15,399
Speaker 1: something that I think that anyone that cares about where

1024
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: they're from or the city that is helping to make

1025
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: them get back, give back. And if you're in Atlanta

1026
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: and you want a place to give back or you

1027
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: don't know how to, you want to learn more about it,

1028
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 1: look at the four Forefund, Look at what we're doing.

1029
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 2: No man, look I again, I appreciate it. I love

1030
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 2: the fact when you originally even brought the idea to me,

1031
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 2: because I was always looking for ways just you know,

1032
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 2: how can you make an impact? And I think there's

1033
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 2: just so much potential. I mean again, we're only you know,

1034
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 2: about a year and a half into a two years

1035
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 2: into it, so it's still kind of in its infancy,

1036
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 2: but we've already done a lot of work in But

1037
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 2: I do definitely think that if we can really you know,

1038
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,240
Speaker 2: break through and kind of you know, just make people

1039
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 2: more aware that these kind of things exist. Like why

1040
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 2: wouldn't you want to support something like this? Like why

1041
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 2: wouldn't you want to you know, support it, whether it

1042
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 2: with your your dollars or your time or your finance

1043
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 2: is because like you said, we're putting you know, like yain.

1044
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 2: Last year, you know, we started the four or four Fund,

1045
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 2: we did the Maynor Jackson you know business grant. You know,

1046
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 2: we gave the grocery spot a free grocery store out

1047
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 2: here enough money to basically feed over five hundred families.

1048
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: And we also took care of the emergency funds.

1049
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 2: Took care of the emergency fund for the AUC.

1050
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 1: You know, when people are graduating, they're like, oh shit,

1051
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: I got these late fees. Like go get that graduation

1052
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 1: and go we got your back. Yeah, I mean doing

1053
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: good feels good. Don't y'all want to feel good? Come on?

1054
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: And also like we just got a great community the

1055
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,720
Speaker 1: people that we put together. And that's how you create

1056
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 1: that group of friends, right, That's how you create that

1057
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 1: unique point of view is by forcing yourself to be

1058
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: uncomfortable and to go into places and meet people and

1059
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 1: to see the tough things and to hear the exciting things.

1060
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 1: All of it. It just creates the life worth living.

1061
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: And that's what I'm here for and that's what Atlanta

1062
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 1: gives daily. Just got to know where to look for it.

1063
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then taking it out of the hands again,

1064
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 2: like just so this isn't there's no political motivations behind it.

1065
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 2: It's literally us because again we're out here, as always say,

1066
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 2: in these streets, you know, seeing things from the ground level.

1067
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 2: But you again to your point, we know who the

1068
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 2: people are that are actually making a change or making

1069
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 2: an impact, and you know they could use a little

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Speaker 2: help or support here there, right, So to have that

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Speaker 2: authentic relationship with those people, but then also to be

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Speaker 2: able to go to them and say, here's something to

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Speaker 2: help you out with, I think is what makes this

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Speaker 2: so much more different. Like I said, we don't have

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00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 2: the you know, like we're the decision makers on this yep,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: You can't complain when you made it, you know, right.

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Speaker 1: But the things that we're fighting for they're not partisan,

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Speaker 1: you know, absolutely not, like there's everything kind of goes

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00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: through that lens, it seems like nowadays. But there are

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00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 1: things out there that it's just a human thing. It's

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00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: not a political thing. And if you can't rock with that,

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00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 1: then you might be broken. You know. I don't want

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00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 1: to talk too much shit, but you find out very

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00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 1: quickly who you don't want to be around when you

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00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 1: see that they don't care about certain things. Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad we got a chance to cover on

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Speaker 2: that now before we get out of here. I always

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Speaker 2: like to ask people if you had a billboard anywhere

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00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 2: in this city that you could put whatever you want

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Speaker 2: to put on it. Now, one thing might be support

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Speaker 2: the four or four fund, and that would be great,

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Speaker 2: But what message would lesson with piece of advice?

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Speaker 1: What would you put on your billboard? Damn? So the

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00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: billboard would probably be like you know that one by

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Speaker 1: the NCR building, You know the one that's right there

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Speaker 1: on the highway. Yeah, it is bumping, great spot. I

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Speaker 1: believe this deeply, and I don't know if this would

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Speaker 1: be the whole sentence, but I believe that people deserve

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Speaker 1: nice things at a fair price. I really do. But

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Speaker 1: if I cut it short, people deserve nice things. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's give it to them. Life is short. Make sure

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Speaker 1: it's nice. That's it. I like that.

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Speaker 2: I like that.

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Speaker 1: I like that. That's good. I like that, Peter. People

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00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 1: deserve nice things like button nomics they do. People deserve this,

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Speaker 1: and you're here to give it to them.

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Speaker 2: We're here to give it to them. Hey man, well,

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00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 2: look I appreciate you. Before we get out of here,

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Speaker 2: please tell people how they can support you, support Monday Night,

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00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 2: how they can get some yacht water in day life, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: let them know.

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Speaker 1: If you don't know about Monday Ney borrowing, look it up.

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00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: But we're here all throughout Atlanta. We got two going

1115
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 1: on three locations, our beers all over the place. We

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00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: have a specific beer called four or four Atlanta Logger

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00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 1: that directly gives back to the four fore Fund. So

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00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 1: I mean, anyone can drink, but can you drink with

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00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 1: the purpose that's actually good. We're here to do that

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Speaker 1: for you. We have a tequila company called Pedro for

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00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:33,399
Speaker 1: TiVo that my wife Rachel and our business partner Oma

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00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: Martinez just launched, so that's available in Georgia and Tennessee

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Speaker 1: and then yacht water Me YACHTI coach Rachel. We're excited

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Speaker 1: for y'all to get it. Summer's coming, So ask your

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00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 1: local package stores. If they don't sell it yet, tell

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Speaker 1: them that Savannah Distributing does and they can get it

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00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:52,399
Speaker 1: from there. And remember, y'all deserve nice things, and we're

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Speaker 1: here to give it to you.

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Speaker 2: That's right. Y'all deserve nice things like this interview and

1130
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:58,720
Speaker 2: like button Nomics, and like the four or four Fund

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Speaker 2: in four four day, Peter Man, I appreciate it, man,

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Speaker 2: It's been great conversation. Thank you for pulling up to

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Speaker 2: the pod Man, Thank you for having me anytime. Man,

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Speaker 2: and with that we out that's the pod you've been

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Speaker 2: listening to button Nomics and I'm your host, Brandon Butler.

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