1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to had the Money. I'm Joel, I'm Matt, and 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: today we're celebrating your money wins. 3 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 2: Waiting, are you not going to call this the financial Festivus? 4 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 2: That's what we've called it in years past. It's got 5 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 2: a nice ring to it. You love alliteration, financial festivus? 6 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 2: Should I change the title the episode back to financials? 7 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 2: I didn't think that through. Well, all right, you know 8 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 2: this makes me think of what have I told you 9 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 2: the story about I was going to start singing celebration 10 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 2: by Cool in the game. Did I tell you the story? 11 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 2: How back in the day when I worked at the 12 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 2: Adding Advertising agency, that when it was someone's birthday and 13 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 2: we had like a company lunch, that I would on 14 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 2: the office phone. I would hit the PA button and 15 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 2: I would play cool in the gag to signify that 16 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 2: it was time for us to party. Here you go, 17 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 2: but you gotta have a cue. I was the My 18 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 2: office was the closest one to the kitchen, so I 19 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 2: could see when the cake would show up and the 20 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 2: sandwiches from Jason's Deli witch up as well. And uh yeah, 21 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 2: maybe that's why I'm not there anymore. Because I thought 22 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 2: it was a ton of fun, but maybe everyone else didn't. 23 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 2: They're like, man, I was so annoying. I'm glad he's gone. 24 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 2: It's like, dude, I was on a call that started 25 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 2: blasting through the phone. Oh man. 26 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: It reminds me of actually one of my first my 27 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: first job in radio in the morning newsroom, the. 28 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 2: Samuel Jackson Staks on. 29 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: A Plane movie came out, and I would play that 30 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: clip out loud in the newsroom like at like, you know, 31 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: six am, because we're there super early, just to like 32 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: get you all laughed, to get the juice flowing, you know. 33 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 2: And they laughed. But I got imagine probably by like 34 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 2: the twelfth time I did it, they were like, yeah, 35 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 2: that's that's enough. That's yeah. I could totally see myself 36 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 2: there in the newsroom with you cracking up enjoyed it. 37 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 2: But also other folks, because I think if I were 38 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 2: in an environment where somebody was doing that now, I'd 39 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 2: be like, come on, man, just like I know, I'm 40 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 2: a gradual old man. Now let's just like get on 41 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 2: with him. Probably he's twenty one. We'll forgive him. But 42 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 2: this is our financial festivus. This is how we celebrate 43 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 2: money wins, and in part we do this because we 44 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 2: are oftentimes in such a stink and hurry, like we 45 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 2: go from one checkbox you know, on our to do 46 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 2: list to the next, oftentimes without even acknowledging that, like 47 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 2: we were able to accomplish something, right, without acknowledging the 48 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 2: fact that there are hurdles or sacrifices that we overcame 49 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 2: in order to achieve whatever goal it was that we're 50 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 2: seeking after. 51 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: It's so important to recognize to name it because when 52 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: you name it, you're able to enjoy the fruits of 53 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: your labor instead of just immediately moving on to the 54 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: next thing, which is such an American way of life, right. 55 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, And so we want to share these because 56 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 2: hopefully it comes across as encouraging to you listeners out 57 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 2: there obviously. I mean we talk through the different scenarios 58 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 2: that listeners find themselves in and try to provide feedback, 59 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 2: but oftentimes we don't hear Again, what's on the tail 60 00:02:58,040 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 2: end of that. 61 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, the result of all it's hard to work and 62 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: usually the problem never the finale, like things wrapped up. 63 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: So this is fun to do, I think. The other 64 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: hopefully it's encouraging. 65 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 66 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: The other reason we do this is sort of an 67 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: encouragement and maybe you haven't even thought about making this 68 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: a goal something that somebody else has just succeeded in 69 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 1: and you're like, wait a second, now this is motivating 70 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: me to create loftier. 71 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 2: Goals for myself. It's right, or you're able. 72 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: To say, oh, that's cool, man, I similarly accomplished this 73 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: thing three years ago. 74 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 2: But look where I am now. It reminds you. 75 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: Of a previous financial accomplishment you've had totally, and yeah, 76 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: this whole thing, I think it's a virtuous cycle. Hopefully, 77 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: Matt that sharing these listener money wins it's encouraging to me. 78 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: It's fun to see what the how to money community 79 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: is doing totally. 80 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 2: But yeah, do you want to. 81 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: Start off and we'll share maybe our money wins for. 82 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 2: Ye some quick how to money host listeners. Sure no, 83 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 2: not listener wins money wins. So I was thinking and 84 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 2: for us, the biggest thing that we've done this year, man, 85 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 2: that's I guess different from all previous years was the 86 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 2: fact that we didn't invest a single dollar this year, 87 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 2: which I think a lot we correct corrected. 88 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: I do you remember it was from our business we did, 89 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: but you as an individal still investing. 90 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 2: Okay, so specifically have not invested within a personal IRA. Yeah, 91 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 2: for the first time in probably what like two decades 92 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 2: I literally can't remember. But and so I think a 93 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 2: lot of folks would hear that and say, dude, that's 94 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 2: not a money win, that's like a money loss, and 95 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 2: so what an idiot, I'm turning off this podcast. Now. 96 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 2: The flip side of that, like the other side of 97 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 2: the coin, is the fact that we have like intentionally 98 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 2: chosen to spend an extremely large amount of money on 99 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 2: a home edition just to renovate our home, and on 100 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 2: a home gym. Let's be honest, that wasn't cheap, but hey, 101 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 2: that's going to save me money. That's Kate's out there, 102 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 2: were not having to pay that monthly membership. Okay. So 103 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 2: here's the win part of it. The fact that we 104 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 2: frontloaded the sacrifice and invested aggressively like early on, put 105 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 2: us in a position to where we felt comfortable saying, 106 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 2: you know what, we don't need to optimize our investing. 107 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 2: We don't have to invest every single dollar that we're 108 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 2: capable of investing. Maybe we can coast a little bit, 109 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 2: but to have our values refre and what it is 110 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 2: that we're spending on for us to be able to 111 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 2: prioritize the thing things that we want to prioritize. 112 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: Also, you're not taking on any debt to fund this project, 113 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 1: which is amazing. So yeah, yeah, you're dialing back on 114 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: the investing, but no helock at nine and a half 115 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: percent or something like that, which is a big win. 116 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: And I for one cannot wait to sell hopefully enter 117 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: the extensive east wing of the new edition. The it's 118 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: almost like beating the beast. You know, there's at the 119 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: side of the castle you're not supposed to go to. 120 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 1: I think that's what this is going to look like. 121 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 2: I will say Kate literally texted me today and said 122 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 2: that she can see her studio or like where her 123 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 2: studio is going to go, like the walls that create that, 124 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 2: and she's so pumped because and again. 125 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if you've mentioned, Kate makes jewelry, really 126 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 1: cool jewelry, and before we move, she was getting into ceramics, 127 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 1: and so she just when we moved a few years ago, 128 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: she did not have the space to be able to 129 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: continue doing that. 130 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 2: And not only does she have the time now, but 131 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 2: she hopefully very soon will have the space to be 132 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 2: able to pursue that, which I'm so stoked for her. 133 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 2: So that's my anti money. When do you have an 134 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 2: actual money Well, I'm an actual money when here. 135 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: Okay, just to not go too far afield, but yes, 136 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: I think our big money win was paying our last 137 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: grad school tuition payment for for Emily. So she graduates 138 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: in May. We you know, paid the paid this last 139 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: semester's tuition and that's exciting. 140 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 2: She's actually making it like it's the final check. Yeah, 141 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 2: we'll have to sign. 142 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: She's making like a small stipend right now in her 143 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: insurt internship year. 144 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 2: Nice. It's it's not much and enough to cover lunch. 145 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 1: Pales in comparison. Yeah, yeah, and it pales in comparison 146 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: to the tuition amount. But I'm looking forward to like, hey, 147 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: we're turning the corner at some point next year. 148 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 2: In literally turn the quarter, Like, no longer are you 149 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 2: paying into this. It will start paying out towards you. Yeah, 150 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 2: which is receiving. 151 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: I'm going to get to kick back and relax, let 152 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: my wife bring home the bills and do it. Yeah. 153 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 2: Well okay, so I we should have gotten the bottle 154 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 2: of something with a cork to be able to should 155 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 2: have you know, to do like a little bit of 156 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 2: ASMR here on the podcast, Like folks are into that. 157 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: Man, I think I actually have a chamade and my 158 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: fridge at home then I got from Costco, and I 159 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: doesn't have a cork in it. 160 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 2: I don't know, it's been a long time since stuff. 161 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 2: I've had a chemet, but I do have a pop 162 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 2: top here with a bottle. So let's go ahead and 163 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 2: do this. Oh that's an interesting sound. It actually had 164 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 2: more of a little air build up there than I'll listen, 165 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 2: look forward. What is this? This is a sayson for Monday 166 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 2: night brewing that we're gonna have a little small batch. 167 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 2: I even know what it's called. Well and pour this 168 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 2: for us. That sounds good. 169 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: While you're doing that, I'll just mention normally we use 170 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: these episodes to answer listener questions. Obviously we're not doing 171 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: that this week, but we'll be back, uh next week 172 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: answering your listener questions. If you have a money question, 173 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: please do send it our way and you can find 174 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: the directions at had to money dot com, slash ask 175 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: and actually Matt. Before we get to the listener money once, 176 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: let's start with one listener question. We got like a 177 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: bunch of listener once details, well just one because and 178 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: the reason we wanted to get to this is because 179 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: it's like a literal end of your money question, and 180 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: uh okay, we couldn't hold off any longer. 181 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 3: Man, Joel, This is Joe from Minnesota. Actually got Mary 182 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 3: in western North Carolina pretty recently and it was beautiful. 183 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 3: I kind of wonder why I don't live there sometimes. 184 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 3: I wanted to ask you guys a question about some 185 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 3: annual record keeping and numbers that I should be keeping 186 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 3: tabs on as I look over my data year to year. 187 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 3: A couple things that I have been keeping track of 188 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 3: are my net worth as well as my overall investment 189 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 3: account balance. And some other things that I'm looking to 190 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 3: add to that are my effective and marginal tax rates 191 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 3: as well as my savings rate. But is there anything 192 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 3: else to you guys keep track of yourselves or that 193 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 3: you recommend to others as we get closer to the 194 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 3: end of year? 195 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 4: Thanks? 196 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: All right, Matt, Let's rip through this one quick, because 197 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: we got money wins to get to. 198 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 2: Yes we do, but Joe will help you out here. 199 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,599 Speaker 2: This is important and I understand why you wanted to 200 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 2: take it before. Otherwise we would have had a wait 201 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 2: like all of next year to be able to take 202 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 2: Joe's question. First of all, Joe, I'll say congrats on 203 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 2: getting married, because, yes, Western North Carolina. Here's a little secret. 204 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 2: Kate and I always thought that we would actually end 205 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 2: up moving up there after five years of marriage living 206 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 2: in Atlanta. But you met me and you couldn't. You 207 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:11,839 Speaker 2: start a business, you put down roots, you buy in 208 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 2: a neighborhood, which is, yes, where we met Joel, and 209 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 2: then you're like, wait a minute, we could see ourselves 210 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 2: actually raising a family here in Atlanta. But it's still 211 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 2: a great place to visit, and especially now, Oh my gosh. 212 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 2: I mean so obviously, Hurricane Helene destroyed Asheville specifically in 213 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 2: a lot of western North Carolina, but tourism dollars is 214 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 2: what that area needs to get it back on its feet, 215 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 2: because that's Asheville specifically. I mean, the vast majority of 216 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 2: what supported that city was tourism, and so the ability 217 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 2: for us to get back up there and kind of 218 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 2: to support it in our own feeble little way is 219 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 2: honestly exactly what needs to be done, even though it 220 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 2: kind of feels like like it feels a little off. 221 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 2: You know, It's just like, man, these guys are like suffering. 222 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 2: Like businesses got completely destroyed. People's homes were lost, obviously 223 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 2: lots of lies we're also lost as well. But man, 224 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 2: their ability to resume what normal life looks like is 225 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 2: I think going to be hugely dependent on folks getting 226 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 2: back up there. And I've already seen that happening. 227 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: There's so much resilience from the small business community in 228 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: the Asheville area and some of my favorite businesses that 229 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: exist there that I follow on social media or stuff 230 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: like that. Just like the way they're going about things, 231 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: like they're working their butts off, and you know, it's 232 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: tough to lose that and try to rebuild, but they're 233 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: doing it, and they're committed to reopening their businesses, and yeah, 234 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: it's going to take us supporting them to make sure 235 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: they succeed. 236 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 2: Yeap tangent, though that's not what Joe's asking about. 237 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 1: Well, first, congrats to Joe on getting married, right, And 238 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: I'm glad that he's keeping track of his net worth 239 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: because like, when it comes to money metrics, that's a 240 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: crucial one. Your net worth is like one of the 241 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: most important things to be tracking, because I think watching 242 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 1: your net worth evolve over time and increase over time, 243 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: that's edifying, right, and that's almost like a reinforcing mechanism 244 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: to help us continue doing the right thing right. And 245 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: then on top of that, being able to plot out 246 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 1: your net worth and see the gains year over year, 247 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,839 Speaker 1: then decade after a decade, it's just kind of telling 248 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: your brain what you're doing is working. And so I 249 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: think Joe spot on on this one, like everyone out there, 250 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: everyone listening to this, should be tracking their net worth 251 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: and just that one metric is gonna give so much insight. 252 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: Not knowing that though, it kind of makes it feel 253 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 1: like you're flying blind. 254 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:20,959 Speaker 2: Totally. Yeah, And it's not that hard either. You can 255 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 2: just go with some of the different apps or software 256 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 2: out there, like empower or Monarch Money. They can do 257 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 2: that for you pretty easily. They aggregate all your accounts 258 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 2: there in one place, keep those running totals happening. But 259 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 2: I also love that you're planning to track your savings 260 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,719 Speaker 2: rate as well as your different tax rates, because I 261 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 2: think knowing those is going to be incredibly helpful when 262 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:42,959 Speaker 2: it comes to what decisions you choose to make moving forward. 263 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 2: For instance, let's say your savings rate is thirty five percent, 264 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 2: which is solid, Well, you might find that you have 265 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 2: more comfort in lowering that should additional needs a rise, 266 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 2: you know, should you have other life goals in mind. 267 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 2: I'm speaking out of personal experience here speaking to my 268 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 2: home renovation. 269 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 1: Can justify dialing it back more if you realize you've 270 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: had a substantial savings rate, yes, for many years. 271 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 2: Or even just like taking your foot off the gas 272 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,559 Speaker 2: completely for a year or two. But when it comes 273 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 2: to your tax rate, if you are overestimating your taxes, 274 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 2: you might find that knowing your effective tax rate that 275 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 2: could allow you to make you know, slightly different decisions 276 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 2: moving forward. Makes me think of a friend, Joel, who 277 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 2: has recently laid off, and one of the things he 278 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:27,839 Speaker 2: was a little worried about was the fact that he's 279 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 2: going to be receiving because he's been there for so long, 280 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 2: He's going to receive like a third of his salary 281 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 2: next year that he would have earned next year all 282 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 2: at the end of this year. So he's thinking, oh, shoot, 283 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 2: what's that going to do to my taxes? He's kind 284 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 2: of stressed about it. He's going to go see his accountant. 285 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 2: But this is an instance where if you knew your 286 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 2: effective tax rate, thinking that maybe okay, not enough is 287 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 2: going to be withheld, you know from my pay stub 288 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 2: that you could make an estimated payment come January just 289 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 2: by doing some simple math. So you're right. 290 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: Knowing those numbers kind of helps you make your form 291 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: decisions about let's say, whether you want to conte contribute 292 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: to a WROTH version of an account or a traditional 293 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:06,959 Speaker 1: version of account, whether you want to do some sort 294 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: of Roth conversion that kind of stuff too. So yeah, 295 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: I think keeping track of that makes sense as well. 296 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: But what else should you be tracking year to year? 297 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: I think it's a good idea to keep track of 298 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,199 Speaker 1: your contribution amounts for each account. You're going to want 299 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 1: to note the account type in the amounts of your contribution. 300 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 1: This not only helps you see, oh, hey, I've been 301 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: able to ramp up my contributions over the years, and 302 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 1: you know, if you're maxing it out let's say every year, 303 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: well you are going to be by default contributing more 304 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: as the contribution limit increases over the years. But it's 305 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 1: also going to allow you to track that for tax 306 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: purposes too. And for withdrawal purposes later down the road, 307 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: and it'll be particularly helpful I think if your account 308 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: gets sold elsewhere. We've had those questions from how to 309 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: money listeners who are like, I don't know how much 310 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: I put in in a given year, and now my 311 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: account is with this other company and they don't seem 312 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: to have the records, which can be a frustrating place 313 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:54,439 Speaker 1: to find yourself. 314 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I mean the fact is so this is 315 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 2: incredibly important when it comes to if you are interested 316 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 2: in retiring early, because one of the amazing benefits of 317 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 2: a roth ira is the fact that you can what, oh, 318 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 2: you can withdraw any of your contributions. But most brokerages 319 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 2: don't keep track of when you take money out of 320 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 2: that account as to whether or not that was a 321 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 2: contribution or whether those are earnings. They don't delineate between 322 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 2: Like it's not like when you go to take money 323 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 2: out of your roth ira, they're like, would you like 324 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 2: to take ten thousand dollars out of you know, from 325 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 2: your contributions? No, Like, it's all those dollars are co 326 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 2: mingled together, and so you have there is a record 327 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 2: of that. But they don't provide enough detail to satisfy 328 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 2: the irs, and so that the onus is on you 329 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 2: to declare that, oh, no, this money that I'm taking out, 330 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 2: for instance, out of a roth Ira, that those are 331 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 2: dollars that I contributed. That way you don't get that way. 332 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 2: You can be like, don't tax me, bro, like, these 333 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 2: are my contributions. So keep that in mind, especially if 334 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 2: you're interested in early retirement, Joe. But on that note, 335 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 2: if you have an HSA, make sure that you implement 336 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 2: a solid system to track your health care expenses as well, 337 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 2: because documenting those is going to be crucial when it 338 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 2: comes to again making withdrawals in the future. Sure, so 339 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 2: a lot of these numbers that are worth tracking are 340 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 2: particularly important if you're interested in early retirement. But honestly, 341 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 2: even if that's not a goal of yours, I think 342 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,479 Speaker 2: the ability to keep up with some of these metrics 343 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 2: it's helpful, man, you know, like you've heard the saying, 344 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 2: what gets measured gets managed, And if you want to 345 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 2: see some of these numbers improve, well, just the ability 346 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 2: to keep up with them year over year to kind 347 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 2: of see some trends, you're gonna be able to see 348 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 2: a massive difference when it comes to your personal finance. 349 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 2: We were doing that. 350 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: Literally, just talking about this in regards to like blood 351 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: panel man measuring kind of what's going on. 352 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 2: With your health, right, you know, middle aged mental This 353 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 2: is like right before we hit record on the podcast, 354 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 2: and yeah, like it's true. Like when you kind of know. 355 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: Some of the reality, the underlying reality of what's going 356 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: on with your health, and you're tracking your progress over time, 357 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: chances are you're just more in tune with the reality 358 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: of what's going on. Yeah, and you're likely to make 359 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: adjustments to improve your situation. The same is true with money. 360 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 2: And it's not that any of these numbers are of 361 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 2: vital importance right now, but the ability to see that 362 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 2: changes over time can alert you to certain things that 363 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 2: might be slightly off. This is also just on my 364 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 2: mind as well, because it's towards the end of the year, 365 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 2: and Joe, one of the things I keep up with 366 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 2: different categories of spending every single year in order to 367 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 2: compare to previous years, to see fluctuations, to be able 368 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 2: to see and I run the math and see what 369 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 2: the percentage increase or decreases, and so with that mind, like, 370 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 2: one of the ones I've noticed this year is the 371 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 2: fact that our what we call extracurricular spending is up 372 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 2: seventy four percent wow, compared to last year. And so 373 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 2: what that allows us to do is say, WHOA, what's 374 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 2: that all about? And then if we want to drill 375 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 2: down a little bit deeper, we can figure out what 376 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 2: we spent that money on. But we also know that, oh, yeah, 377 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 2: we gymnastics, let's see, camps, even software that we buy 378 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 2: on our computer at home to be able to supplement 379 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 2: the kids learning, like all that kind of stuff. It's like, yeah, 380 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 2: we actually we know that we spent more on that, 381 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 2: and that aligns with our values and what it is 382 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 2: that we're prioritizing this past year. And so in that 383 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 2: case we can say no need for concern here, but 384 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 2: it f it was in a category where we weren't 385 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 2: intentionally looking to spend more money. That's where you say, hey, 386 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 2: what's going on? What's going on over here? And it 387 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 2: allows you to make some tweaks if needed. 388 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't think everybody out there necessarily needs 389 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: to track every single time of what they spend. But 390 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: let's say you're tracking maybe the most important categories, the 391 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: ones that have the most potential for fluctuation, whether it's 392 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:27,199 Speaker 1: groceries needing out, whether it's travel, whatever. That is tracking 393 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 1: a few of those categories so you can see whether 394 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: or not you're making monumental changes. Like you said, Matta, 395 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: it might not mean you need to change anything, but 396 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: it at least informs and it reminds you, Hey, I 397 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 1: am spending meaningful money on the stuff that matters to 398 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: me most, so you're doing it proactively. All right, let's 399 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 1: move on to Listener money wins. Matt, Is it now 400 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 1: actually time for this time financial first of us? Yeah, 401 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 1: and we got a bunch of good ones, a bunch 402 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 1: of good ones to share. So let's start maybe with 403 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 1: one from listener. 404 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 2: Austin. 405 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 5: Hey, guys, it's Austin from Alabama. I just wanted to 406 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 5: share that I'm the biggest money when from this year 407 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 5: has been crossing over the million dollar networth threat at 408 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 5: thirty five years old. Thank you for all that you 409 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 5: guys do and for providing advice that has helped me 410 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 5: to meet the milestone. 411 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 2: A thirty five year old millionaire, Joel, That is incredible 412 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:13,959 Speaker 2: and actually so Austin. He shared a bunch of other 413 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 2: money wins via email. He only really started paying attention 414 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 2: to his personal finances about four years ago. Wow, and 415 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 2: the progress that he and his family have made in 416 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 2: less than half a decade is insane. So Austin, congrats, 417 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 2: kudos to you. Actually, I think he's they're going to 418 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 2: have their third baby any day now. You know what 419 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 2: the big. 420 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 1: Smart money move he said in that email he's going 421 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: to do. They're having a c section schedule for the 422 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: end of December. So that's again, you're going to get 423 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 1: the tax break for the full year of having that child, 424 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 1: even though you only had. 425 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 2: Him for a couple of days, and get that extra 426 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 2: two thousand dollars. Was that frugal or cheap? Jowel to brilliant? Obviously, 427 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 2: you don't make decisions like that based purely on, you know, 428 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 2: for financial reasons. But hey, if you're only like changing 429 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 2: the date by a few days and the doctor's like, 430 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 2: oh yeah, we can just do it whenever, Yeah, I 431 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 2: think that's totally smart. 432 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: Get that extra year of child tax credit. Don't compromise 433 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 1: the health of no doubt the model baby. But like, yeah, 434 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 1: all right, Matt. 435 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 2: I guarantee I guarantee that there are more c sections 436 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,239 Speaker 2: scheduled for the last week in December than there are 437 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 2: in the first week of January. I would love to 438 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 2: see stats on that, but I'm sure you're right me too. 439 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go digging, all right, Let's get to another one. 440 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 2: This one comes from listener mail. 441 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 6: Hi'm Matt and Joel. It's Mel from Connecticut. I've been 442 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 6: an avid listener since the porn out poor days. My 443 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 6: money whins this year are. First, I paid off my 444 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 6: student loan debt. I now have no debt except my mortgage. 445 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 6: When I first moved to Connecticut six years ago, I 446 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 6: was almost eighty thousand dollars in consumer and student loan debt. 447 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 6: Thanks to your guidance, I have slowly gotten out of it. Second, 448 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 6: now that I'm no longer paying my own student debt, 449 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,360 Speaker 6: I started a five twenty nine for my one year 450 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 6: old son, so hopefully he won't ever be in the 451 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 6: same situation I just escaped. Lastly, this is the first 452 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 6: year I contributed the annual max to my TSP. When 453 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 6: I first got my job, I couldn't fathom contributing the max, 454 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 6: but increase the percentage. I contributed twice a year, and 455 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 6: here we are. It helped keep my lifestyle creep and 456 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 6: check with every bump and salary going towards my TSP. 457 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 6: I want to thank you for the way you have 458 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 6: fundamentally changed my psychology of money. You've totally changed my life, 459 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 6: and seventy plus year old Mail will be so grateful 460 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 6: to you. Keep spreading great energy and vibes. Best friends out. 461 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 2: Did Mel just say that we have fundamentally changed your life, Joel? 462 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 2: I think Mel's given us maybe slightly too much credit. Probably, Yeah, 463 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 2: I think so. I think so, But that's very kind 464 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 2: of purt. Oh my gosh. We love hearing listener money 465 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 2: wines like this, and I guarantee that seventy year old 466 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,479 Speaker 2: Mail is going to be in an incredible position all 467 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 2: because of the changes now that you have made to 468 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 2: your life. Amazing job at following through and putting into 469 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 2: action some of the things that we talk about here 470 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 2: on the show. We're so pumped for you to not 471 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 2: have any student loans anymore. It's huge, and I love 472 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,880 Speaker 2: how you are now using that payment to fund your 473 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 2: little dude's future education needs as well. That way, I 474 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,239 Speaker 2: think she said that so that he can escape and 475 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 2: not have to deal with the same hardship that she faced, 476 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 2: which is amazing. I mean, that's all about man. 477 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: When you talk to first generation immigrants, that's always what 478 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: they're trying to do for the next generation. But it 479 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: doesn't just apply to immigrants, Like we all want to 480 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: set our kids up like for success, and that doesn't 481 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: always or even usually mean giving them money. 482 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 2: But whatever we. 483 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: Can do to get our own finances right so that 484 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 1: we can help the next generation do the same is 485 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,199 Speaker 1: I think a meaningful goal that most of us have. 486 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 1: And the cool thing is, Melt, you're not even doing 487 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 1: that at the expense of funding your own retirement. We 488 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 1: hear so many people who are prioritizing a five to 489 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 1: twenty nine plan before they have like put the oxygen 490 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: mask on themselves using the airplane metaphor, and so kudos 491 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: to you for getting your own stuff right, innck. Yeah, 492 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: then focusing on what you can do for the next generation. 493 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: And I think it's just amazing. It's an amazing feeling 494 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: to get to the point where you can do that. 495 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: So we just wish you continued success. I mean, we've 496 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: been around for what a little over six years now, Matt, 497 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: and the fact that has been listening for that long 498 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 1: and since the. 499 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 2: Start, that's honestly, even more admirable the fact that she 500 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 2: stuck with us. She didn't ditch just because we're idiots. 501 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 1: But yeah, we've got more listener money wins that we 502 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:12,719 Speaker 1: want to get to a bunch more. So we'll hit 503 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: up some of our favorite wins that how money listeners 504 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: experience this year right after this, All right. 505 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:26,919 Speaker 2: Joe, we are back for the break. We've got plenty 506 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 2: more money wins to get to, everything from utilizing Facebook 507 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 2: marketplace to expensive home repairs. But let's get to this 508 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 2: listener money when pertaining to some travel rewards. 509 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 7: Hey guys, this is Michael from Chicago. I'm calling with 510 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 7: a money win that is actually two years in the making. 511 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 7: My partner and I traveled during the Southwest holiday maildown 512 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 7: in December twenty twenty two, and it didn't really end 513 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 7: up affecting us, but I always think of what you 514 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 7: guys say about how it doesn't hurt to ask. So 515 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 7: after we got home, I made a case to Southwest 516 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 7: that we deserved some points. They gave us twenty five 517 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 7: thousand points per person, which was awesome. A couple weeks later, 518 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 7: in January, I got an email saying that I'd earned 519 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 7: a Companion Pass, and then another email a couple days 520 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 7: later saying I'd earned a list. I can't stress enough 521 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 7: neither of these things was accurate at all. I know 522 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:20,239 Speaker 7: the Southwest rules and points thresholds backwards and forwards. We 523 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 7: did not qualify for Companion Pass or for a list. 524 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 7: There wasn't a promo, there wasn't anything. I really think 525 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,479 Speaker 7: they just made a mistake somewhere in giving us all 526 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 7: those travel meltdown points. But suddenly we had a whole 527 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 7: year of Companion Pass totally out of nowhere, which means 528 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 7: we hadn't planned for it, and we're both in our 529 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 7: thirties with full time jobs. But as you guys know, 530 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,479 Speaker 7: when the Companion Pass comes calling, you answer. So we 531 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,959 Speaker 7: started traveling and I earned a Southwest credit card bonus 532 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 7: and a few referral bonuses to renew the Companion Pass 533 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 7: through the end of this year. And in the last 534 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 7: twenty three months, I have flown twenty nine Southwest round 535 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 7: trip itineraries, including to twice, and used the Companion Pass 536 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 7: to bring my partner Sonya along for free on almost 537 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 7: all of them, a fewer for work, but most of 538 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 7: them she came with and because on one of these trips, 539 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 7: we gave up our seats and took a flight just 540 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 7: ninety minutes later in exchange for eight hundred dollars in 541 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 7: Southwest credit per ticket. In addition to having spent no 542 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 7: money on any of this, we actually have more flight credit, 543 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 7: money and more points at the end of these two 544 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 7: years twenty nine round trips in than we had when 545 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 7: this all started. And I'm pretty sure it's all just 546 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 7: because we asked a harmless question and we got lucky. 547 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 7: So thanks for the show, guys, Happy holidays, Matt. 548 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: This reminds me of the Biblical parable of the loaves 549 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: and the fish, and it just keeps on going and 550 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 1: there's baskets overflowing at the end. That's what's happening with 551 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: Michael here with his travel more than we started with. 552 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, while we're eating the whole time. And Guardian, Yeah, it. 553 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: Really, I mean impressive what Michael was able to accomplish 554 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 1: with one phone call. And this appears to be the 555 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: gift that keeps on giving. I feel like Michael single 556 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: handleay is to put the Southwest out of business. 557 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 2: I will say, okay, so let's let's give a quick 558 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 2: refresher on the Southwest companion pass because unlike other airlines, 559 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 2: for instance, Delta, they're a great carrier, but they've got 560 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 2: a companion pass or companion certificate. And guess what it's 561 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 2: good for. It's good for one round trip ticket, not 562 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,239 Speaker 2: the Southwest companion pass the year that you get it, 563 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 2: as well as the entire next year. You have a 564 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 2: companion pass. And what that means is that when you 565 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 2: buy your own Southwest ticket, you add a companion for 566 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 2: absolutely free. You still have to pay fees, which is 567 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 2: literally I think it's eleven dollars and twenty cents, So 568 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 2: that is what you're paying in order to have someone 569 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 2: fly with you. 570 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: Which is why you can take twenty nine flights round 571 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 1: trip flights because. 572 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,959 Speaker 2: You can afford the yeah yeah, thirty times eleven. 573 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 1: Especially that the cool thing too is you can pay 574 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 1: with points and then have your companion fly for free 575 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: on the companion pass, so you might be forking over 576 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: literally just dollars for the fees. 577 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 2: There is incredible. It is the absolute best travel deal 578 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 2: that is out there. And we got an article over 579 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:02,439 Speaker 2: on the site at how to money dot com that 580 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 2: will make sure to link to you because now, honestly 581 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 2: is the perfect time to start pursuing the companion pass, 582 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 2: because what will happen. You get yourself a new Southwest 583 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 2: card now and you start spending on it, and you 584 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,360 Speaker 2: could have the points racked up within a few months 585 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 2: if you spend correctly over the course, you know, with 586 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 2: a personal card with a business card. And here's the thing. 587 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 2: You also don't have to have like a fully fledged 588 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 2: s corporation with like ten employees to have a business. Yes, 589 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 2: you can be a sole proprietor. And so the ability 590 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 2: to get the personal card the corporate card literally within 591 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,959 Speaker 2: the months, you could have a companion pass for the 592 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 2: rest of twenty twenty five and twenty twenty six as well. 593 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 2: And that's hopefully literally what Michael did. 594 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, hopefully you can utilize full years basically as effectively 595 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: as he was able to what Hawaii twice So good? Amazing, 596 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 1: So yeah, pretty cool. But yeah, to check out that 597 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 1: article linked in the show notes. Let's get to another 598 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: money win map. This one is a retirement money win. 599 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 8: Hi. I'm Jennifer from North Carolina and my big money 600 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 8: win for twenty twenty four is that I'm maxing out 601 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 8: my four oh one K for the first time and 602 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 8: looking forward to doing so again in twenty twenty five. 603 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 2: Short and sweet, but this is another sick milestone. Congrats 604 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 2: Jennifer Man to twenty three thousand dollars funneled into a 605 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 2: tax advantage account that is off the charts excellent, And 606 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,199 Speaker 2: I think, did she say she's gonna do this do 607 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 2: this again next year? This is awesome. And I simultaneously 608 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:23,919 Speaker 2: want to address the fact that this is like a 609 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 2: dream goal for many younger how to money listeners out there, 610 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 2: or maybe not even younger, just folks who have like 611 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 2: only recently siled up next to their personal finances and 612 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 2: realized that, like they got to start making some changes, 613 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 2: but it often takes many years of doing the right 614 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 2: thing in order to get there. But massive congrats to you, Jennifer. 615 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 2: The only thing I would say is, like, if you 616 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 2: want to take this to the next level, the pro 617 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 2: level is to start saving in the current year for 618 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 2: next year's contributions. You do it all in January. You 619 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,439 Speaker 2: do it all in January, because according to history, you 620 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 2: are going to see higher returns by lump some investing 621 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 2: at the beginning of the year as opposed to dollar 622 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,919 Speaker 2: cost averaging over the course of the year. There you go. 623 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 2: For instance, twenty twenty four, you're looking at like thirty 624 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 2: percent in the SMP like that, I would much rather 625 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 2: have that total dollar amount earning that full thirty percent 626 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 2: as opposed to whatever the gradual amount is over over 627 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 2: the course of the year. 628 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 1: We'll need a dollar cost at nice to kind of 629 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 1: be able to wipe your hands up. It'd be like, 630 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: got her done, Now let me move on to other 631 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 1: bigger girls. 632 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 8: See you. 633 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,959 Speaker 1: But again, even just maxing it out, it's tough to do. 634 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: Massive congrats to you, Jennifer. Nicely done, Matt, let's hear 635 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 1: from another listener in North Carolina. 636 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 9: Hey, Matt and Joel, this is Matt again from Lincolnton, 637 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 9: North Carolina. Longtime listener, third time caller. I wanted to 638 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 9: share a recent money hack with y'all that pertains to 639 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 9: a conversation you had on a recent episode about Apple 640 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 9: car pluss. My wife drives at two thousand and five 641 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 9: Toya Foreigner that we love. It's a perfect size for 642 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 9: our family, runs great, and best of all, we don't 643 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 9: have a car payment. The major downside is that the 644 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 9: entertainment package is super outdated. We brains from the idea 645 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 9: of getting her a newer car, but came to the 646 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 9: conclusion that we could increase our enployment of the current 647 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 9: car for a lot less money by just having a 648 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 9: new receiver installed that includes features we want like Bluetooth 649 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 9: and CarPlay. The price range for a new receivers anywhere 650 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 9: from two hundred dollars to two thousand dollars depending on 651 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 9: what features you want and if you buy it from 652 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 9: Best Buy and they want to saw it in your 653 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 9: vehicle for free. One we decided on it was about 654 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 9: there hundred fifty bucks as a bonus. I saw a 655 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 9: new headlighte on it yesterday that I paid a hundred 656 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 9: bucks for. It took me about two hours of work 657 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 9: in my driveway, which included a ten minute YouTube video 658 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 9: I watched on how to do it. So for us 659 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 9: on the price of a typical car payment, we have 660 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 9: a greatly increase our enjoyment level with our current car 661 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 9: that we put on keeping for at least a few 662 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 9: more years. 663 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 4: I love the show, Joel. 664 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 2: This begs the question did you get yourself a Bluetooth 665 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 2: speaker to uh or are you going to go big 666 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 2: and get you an Apple car Play installed? There on 667 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 2: the old Acura we actually. 668 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: Got a whole lot of emails and Facebook comments after 669 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: we talked about this on the show and someone sent 670 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: me something on Amazon. It's actually a screen that doesn't 671 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: get mounted in where your radio unit used to be. 672 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: It sets on top of your dashboard and so it's 673 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: just like Happy Medium. You can get it for like 674 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty bucks and it has Apple car 675 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: play and does it how's it wired into it? It's 676 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: still FM transmitter. It's not wired into the sound system. 677 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 1: But interesting that way. You kind of have like the 678 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: digital display that you can mess with. 679 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 2: But does that sound good? The transmitter? I think back 680 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 2: in the day you could get the dongle on your iPod. 681 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 2: This is like decades ago, I mean literally, but like 682 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 2: you'd always have to find the station, I know, and 683 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 2: you have to change you sometimes. 684 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 8: Yeah. 685 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's the downside. 686 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: That was what That's why I did not go in 687 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: that direction. And I haven't done anything yet. I literally 688 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: just play it out on my phone to. 689 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 2: Even gotten like yourself, like the little Beats pill thing 690 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 2: set there, and. 691 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: I'm sure I've got some sort of Bluetooth speaker rumming 692 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: around the house somewhere. 693 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 2: You you were hating on that suggestion, but I think 694 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 2: that's the that could be the best one for you. 695 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: I saw a good sale at Best Buy for one 696 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: made by Pioneer or whatever. It's like a touchscreen with 697 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: Android Auto and Apple Play car Play. But I still like, 698 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm too cheap to put that kind 699 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: of money into that car. 700 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 2: I just rather spend it on other things. Yeah, well, Matt, 701 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 2: congrats to you watching the the YouTube video on how 702 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 2: to do that install. That coupled with the fact that 703 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 2: you got this thing for just one hundred bucks, massive win. 704 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 2: And we always sing the praises of keeping the old 705 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 2: car on the road for longer because having no car payment. Man, 706 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 2: that is worth enduring a whole lot of things. Because 707 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 2: a car payment for the next six years. Maah, that 708 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 2: is too treacherous to imagine. On that note, let's hit 709 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 2: up another automobile win from listener Mike. 710 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 4: Hey, guys, Mike, Massachusetts, Happy holidays. Let's talk about the 711 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 4: quick win that everyone can do with the money this season, 712 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 4: and that's check Facebook marketplace for winter tires. There's tons 713 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 4: of people trying to unload them. I was able just 714 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 4: to find in my next town over four steel rims 715 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 4: that had perfect blizzak winter tires on for the New 716 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 4: England weathers and for fifty bucks, it was a no brainer. 717 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 4: Good luck tire hunting guys. 718 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 1: Man, we don't know what winter is down here in Georgia, 719 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 1: so this is something we need. But thank you for 720 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 1: the tip anyway, Mike. 721 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I also don't know why, Like why are folks 722 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 2: unloading winter tires now? Like, don't you think that folks 723 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 2: would be looking to stock up or get winner think? 724 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 2: I don't know. This is something I don't know because 725 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 2: I've never lived in the north. 726 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 1: But I will say Facebook Marketplace that is a good 727 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: tip for the one, because I think it's the best 728 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,239 Speaker 1: thing about Facebook these days, besides of course the out 729 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: of money Facebook group. 730 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 2: What about Facebook dating? That's the new I've never done it, 731 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 2: I have either, but like that's the new thing where 732 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 2: evidently it's like Facebook dating has skyrocketed, especially among younger. 733 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 2: Younger users are getting on. 734 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: Facebook in order to really Yeah, okay, maybe we can 735 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 1: get link up somebody out of money listeners who are 736 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 1: interested in I'm. 737 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,479 Speaker 2: Pretty sure find a frugal mate for a second. There, 738 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 2: I'm like, wait, did I make this story up? I'm 739 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 2: pretty sure I read this. 740 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 1: Okay, No, that makes sense. I mean that with given 741 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: what Facebook has, the kind of user base that they 742 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: have and stuff like that, it would make sense that 743 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: they would wait in essentially crush all the other dating apps. 744 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 2: They totally could. And it makes sense too, because that's like, 745 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 2: that is what's so great about Facebook Marketplace is that 746 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 2: you're able to find something approximate to wherever you live, 747 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 2: and don't you also want to date somebody who lives 748 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 2: close to you as well, because I mean, I don't 749 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 2: like to drive across town for hardly anything. Yeah, but Mike, 750 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 2: I'm glad you were able to do that for some 751 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 2: winter tires. Oh, Joe, I wanted to share as well. 752 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 2: Not only is it good for buying used items, but 753 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 2: it's also great for selling things yourself. And I'm like 754 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 2: this close to selling my cargo bike. I'm no longer 755 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 2: going to be the proud owner of a gold Yuba Mundo. 756 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 1: At some point the kids get too big and we 757 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 1: all grow them. The times changed it for another year, 758 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: but then I'm sure I'll be rid of mine too. 759 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 2: But Joe, let's keep moving. Laura shared over on Facebook. 760 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 2: She said I started budgeting and tracking spending for the 761 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 2: first time for our family and have at last tackled 762 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 2: so much of my anxiety around money and started truly 763 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 2: saving it. All sounds so basic, but it's made such 764 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 2: a huge impact on our lives. The podcast is my 765 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 2: go to weekly pep talk on keeping everything up and 766 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 2: making healthy money choices. Thanks for the empowerment. M Yeah, 767 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 2: the pep talk. That's what we're here for. Joel Man, 768 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 2: I always gonna love this episode if she thinks our 769 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 2: regular episodes are like a good pump me up sort 770 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 2: of episode to listen to. The financial Festivus is where 771 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 2: and I. 772 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: Really do think encouragement is an important part of the 773 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: recipe of getting your money together right, and you need 774 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 1: maybe people who have that infectious enthusiasm that you can 775 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 1: do it, or are like, hey, spurring each other on 776 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,760 Speaker 1: towards kind of doing the right thing with their finances. 777 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 1: Whether that's somebody who's like physically in your life, whether 778 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: it's a coworker or a spouse or a best friend 779 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 1: or something like that, or whether it's your virtual best 780 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: friends who you hang out with all the podcast front. 781 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: Hopefully we can help you in that regard because it's 782 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 1: the tips and the tools, but then it's also kind 783 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,799 Speaker 1: of the encouragement you can do this and losing your 784 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 1: money anxiety. That is one of my favorite things to 785 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 1: hear because I just think, Matt, most folks walk around 786 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: and you know, the money issues are plaguing the nether 787 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 1: regions of their brains, and then the impact that it 788 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 1: can have on their overall lives is just substantial, and 789 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 1: it's amazingly true what Laura shared that knowing where your 790 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 1: money is going is half the battle. Once you kind 791 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: of know that, that's when you can start to iterate 792 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: and make different choices and changes. So mad props to 793 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,359 Speaker 1: Laura for yeah, doing the simil but the simple thing's 794 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 1: not always easy. 795 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 2: The simple things, man, are what moved the needle. Like 796 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 2: the basics are so powerful because oftentimes it's the fancy, 797 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 2: the new fangled whatever that's out there, like that is 798 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 2: oftentimes what gets the most press But man, I think 799 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 2: the most impactful things are typically the simplest and the 800 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 2: ability for folks to see where their money is going, 801 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 2: not unlike I was talking about where it's just like, 802 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 2: oh wow, we spent seventy four percent more in granted 803 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 2: you don't have to be dialed in that much, but 804 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 2: to be able to know, to have an account of 805 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 2: where your money has gone, I think can help you 806 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:30,800 Speaker 2: to make the small tweaks necessary. 807 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 1: To me, it makes me think of, like in the 808 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,879 Speaker 1: NBA or something, a half court shot to win the game. 809 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 1: It's gonna get a lot of press, it's gonna get 810 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 1: a lot of highlights. But if you're just the person 811 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 1: who's constantly shooting ninety percent from free throw range you are, 812 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,399 Speaker 1: and you're at the free throw line fairly regularly, you're 813 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 1: gonna win your team far more games over the course 814 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 1: of a season than that occasional half court shot. So, yeah, 815 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,319 Speaker 1: do the You probably don't understand what I'm talking about 816 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 1: right now. 817 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 2: Matt sounds good. Yeah. Yeah. When you said half court shot, 818 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 2: I'm picturing like the guy that gets called out there 819 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 2: or the girl it gets caught out there for like 820 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,879 Speaker 2: a like some contest, and if they like sink the first, 821 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 2: you got to do the layup, then you do the 822 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 2: free throw, then you do the three pointer, and then 823 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 2: if you make all those shots, you get to do 824 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 2: the half court yet throw, and if so, then you 825 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 2: win like ten grand But NBA players, especially like. 826 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 1: The good ones can hit those half court shots more 827 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,840 Speaker 1: often than you think. But man, it's those free throws. 828 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 1: It's like, if you shoot sixty percent versus ninety percent 829 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 1: from free throw land, you're gonna make a massive difference 830 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 1: in your team's win and lost record. 831 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 2: I believe it all right. 832 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 1: Lisa shared a brief one on Facebook. She said, we 833 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 1: had money saved to handle multiple large and very necessary 834 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 1: repairs to our home. 835 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 2: That was her money win for this year. Man, that's 836 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 2: the old emergency fund coming and clutch for Lisa. Congrats 837 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 2: not on having to make those repairs, but being prepared 838 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 2: to be able to maintain your home, Because owning a 839 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 2: home it can be so gratifying, Like I personally, I 840 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,319 Speaker 2: really enjoy spending money on my house, but it can 841 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,959 Speaker 2: also cost an arm and a leg in a bad 842 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 2: way if you aren't ready for it. It can be 843 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 2: such a nightmare if you are not prepared. So yeah, 844 00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:59,319 Speaker 2: I hate that you had to sink all the money 845 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 2: into repairs, but I'm glad to hear that you had 846 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 2: the cash on hand to be able to pay for 847 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 2: that so to where you didn't have to go into debt. Yeah, 848 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 2: to be able to make that roof repair or to 849 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 2: repair that water main bust that happened right when you 850 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 2: weren't expecting. Why we talked about home ownership going into 851 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 2: it with eyes wide open. Everyone makes it sound like 852 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,919 Speaker 2: it's this no brainer for everyone to buy a home, 853 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,320 Speaker 2: and it can be smart for some people. But man, 854 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,359 Speaker 2: you got to be financially prepared, and Lisa was. So 855 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 2: that is a big money win. Yeah, So on that note, 856 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 2: Jessica's money win, it was huge and also had to 857 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 2: do with housing. My husband got twenty thousand dollars of 858 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:34,360 Speaker 2: student loans forgiven that, plus actually using a budget apt religiously, 859 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 2: we were able to afford our dream house, well a 860 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,880 Speaker 2: reasonable within our budget dream house that is. So that 861 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 2: was Jessica's win. 862 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: We all have to settle for that. Man, none of 863 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,759 Speaker 1: us can truly afford our dream house. If I was 864 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 1: to actually like look through and find, well, what else 865 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 1: would ideally like to live in, it's probably something fancy 866 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 1: on the Georgia coast or something like that that I 867 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 1: can't actually afford, never will be able to. But yeah, 868 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 1: the realistic dream house, yeah realistic. And so that's a 869 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 1: big money win. And yeah, congrats on using a budget 870 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,840 Speaker 1: system to get there. It's always nice to have debt forgiven, 871 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 1: just taken out of your life. Who knows what is 872 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 1: going to happen with student loans moving forward, But I'm 873 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 1: so happy, Jessica for you for your husband to be 874 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,400 Speaker 1: able to get that out of your life and reduce 875 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 1: your debt payments so that you can afford the house 876 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 1: that you want. 877 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and like I want to highlight that for like 878 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,799 Speaker 2: one more second longer, Like they didn't just go out 879 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 2: to like a nice dinner, they were able to afford 880 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 2: their quote unquote dream house. Yeah, by yes, like you said, Jill, 881 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 2: having some loans forgiven, but then just tracking their money 882 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 2: again going back to the basics here. 883 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,399 Speaker 1: Well, and the truth is typically if you have student 884 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,239 Speaker 1: loans forgiven, it means you worked at a lower paid 885 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 1: job for many, many years, so you sacrifice in order 886 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:39,840 Speaker 1: to get that. It's not like it was just so 887 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 1: true some sort of gift. 888 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, all right, Emily wrote paying myself first by 889 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 2: automating our retirement contributions to come out of our checking 890 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 2: account on set dates of each month, picking up the 891 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 2: phone and regularly asking for discounts Promptei with medical bill 892 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,320 Speaker 2: got me a ten percent reduction in that bill, asking 893 00:38:56,360 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 2: for a bundled discount with our insurance saved a significant amount. 894 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 2: Getting three quotes on long care allowed me to make 895 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 2: an informed choice staying. Emily's got like a bundle of 896 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 2: money wins this past year. But they're all good. 897 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,719 Speaker 1: They're all good, And I even just like the we 898 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,279 Speaker 1: talk about getting multiple quotes on stuff, Matt, And that 899 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 1: could be particularly impactful if you're buying a house. But 900 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,240 Speaker 1: even just something as simple as like a long care service, 901 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,319 Speaker 1: someone might charge you one hundred and twenty bucks a month. 902 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 1: Someone else might say, oh, that's one eighty sixty bucks 903 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 1: a month. For the course of a year, that's going 904 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 1: to be over seven hundred bucks man. So yeah, keeping 905 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:28,799 Speaker 1: those multiple quotes really matters, that's right. 906 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,279 Speaker 2: But we've got more financial festivists to get to. If 907 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 2: you like good news, we'll keep listening, all. 908 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 1: Right, Matt, how the money listener money win a palooza, 909 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,319 Speaker 1: or as you like to call it, financial festivists, which 910 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,799 Speaker 1: I also like, continues, We've got more of your money 911 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,279 Speaker 1: wins to share. 912 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 2: Times. 913 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,800 Speaker 1: Come on, if any of your old coworkers are listening 914 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,239 Speaker 1: right now, they're shuddering remembering those days, all right, I'm 915 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 1: jealous of a listener. When that that Flavio shared, he said, we. 916 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:03,120 Speaker 2: Went all the time. Is that how you say it, 917 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,920 Speaker 2: Flavio or is it Flavio Flavio, Probably Flavio. Sorry, I 918 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,319 Speaker 2: don't don't know. I literally don't know. 919 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:08,719 Speaker 1: This was in the how of Money Facebook group that 920 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,239 Speaker 1: he posted this, a lot of people posted their money 921 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,359 Speaker 1: once there he said, we went on a two week 922 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,319 Speaker 1: anniversary trip to Argentina. It was great to have plenty 923 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,440 Speaker 1: of money saved up for it. We splurged where we 924 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,960 Speaker 1: thought it was worth splurging, and we were frugal with 925 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:20,720 Speaker 1: other things. 926 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:23,399 Speaker 2: This is sort of like, this is what I would 927 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 2: call selective splurging Flavio or now I'm being like, I'm 928 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 2: like super self conscious over whether or not it's Flavio 929 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:35,400 Speaker 2: or Flavio. But I'm so glad you did Flavio like Fabio, yeah, Flavio, Yeah, 930 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,440 Speaker 2: I'm so glad you enjoyed your trip. And this is 931 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,400 Speaker 2: sort of like the inverse of the home repair. It's like, 932 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 2: in that case, I'm bummed that that happened to them, 933 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 2: but I'm so glad that they were prepared. In this case, 934 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 2: I'm so glad that this happened to you. This is 935 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 2: something you were looking forward to, and of course the 936 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,239 Speaker 2: fact that you were prepared for it is huge. I 937 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,399 Speaker 2: always think about travel too, Matt. I like to have 938 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 2: one distinct memory that I pay extra money for that 939 00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,480 Speaker 2: always sticks out in my mind. And like, for instance, 940 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,320 Speaker 2: when I went to Hawaii, this was probably like thirteen 941 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,839 Speaker 2: years ago, and I did a motorized hang glidder tour 942 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:04,279 Speaker 2: and it cost me. I still remember. 943 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,239 Speaker 1: It costs me two hundred and fifty dollars and I 944 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,480 Speaker 1: remember like sweating it out because that was a really 945 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,839 Speaker 1: really really expensive thing for me at the time, but 946 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 1: it was so worth it and cheap. 947 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:15,240 Speaker 2: Joel Frugal. 948 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 1: Joel was like, don't do it, don't do it, but 949 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:19,919 Speaker 1: it's such a good memory for me that I'm glad 950 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:21,880 Speaker 1: I did. And when you travel and you're spending all 951 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 1: this money to go to that place, I at least 952 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,799 Speaker 1: pick one thing maybe that's worth spending a little extra 953 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:27,839 Speaker 1: money on. You're going to have those memories for years 954 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:28,240 Speaker 1: to come. 955 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 2: On live And hopefully you didn't splurge on the plane 956 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,920 Speaker 2: tickets because the plane tickets were cheap. Yeah yeah, not you, 957 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,440 Speaker 2: but even everybody out there, because like I know, like 958 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:40,760 Speaker 2: for some people they're splurge is the upgraded seats, special drinks. 959 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,279 Speaker 2: I don't know whatever it is that people spend money 960 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 2: on when they're flying, but like that's where you had 961 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 2: the opportunity to save the most and then hopefully you 962 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 2: can splurge on more unique opportunities and experiences like what 963 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:53,279 Speaker 2: you just shared with listeners. Joel Ryan, he hit a 964 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,760 Speaker 2: money when milestone. He wrote, we hit a net worth 965 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,799 Speaker 2: of one million dollars back in March twenty twenty was 966 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,319 Speaker 2: the first year we had a six figure income, and 967 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,280 Speaker 2: even now it's not much over six figures. We became 968 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 2: debt free in March of twenty eleven and only had 969 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 2: a net worth then around forty thousand dollars. Compounding interest 970 00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:18,480 Speaker 2: truly is amazing. Ryan, You just wait because now that 971 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,319 Speaker 2: you like, yeah, you hit that net worth of a 972 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,200 Speaker 2: million bucks, like you just hang onto your hat because 973 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,280 Speaker 2: and it's probably grown a lot since March. I'm sure. Yeah, 974 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,799 Speaker 2: But like he he's paying attention I guess to his 975 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 2: income and like that has a pretty big impact on 976 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,359 Speaker 2: obviously how much you're able to save. But like at 977 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 2: this point in the game, for him, it's gonna be 978 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,920 Speaker 2: it's less about what he's earning every single year, and 979 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,360 Speaker 2: it has more to do with how much he's already 980 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,359 Speaker 2: got socked away, how much he's already got invested that's 981 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,759 Speaker 2: going to continue to yeah, to earn that interest as 982 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,400 Speaker 2: it continues to compound. 983 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:51,759 Speaker 1: Compounding returns will continue to just wow you, I think 984 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:53,719 Speaker 1: in the coming years. And I think it's just this 985 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 1: also highlights Matt that you can become a millionaire without 986 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,440 Speaker 1: making six figures. I think, yeah, popular opinion in this 987 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,799 Speaker 1: country kind of Debbie Downer on, oh, I don't make 988 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:04,839 Speaker 1: much money, there's no way I can get there. And 989 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 1: I think about just those early years when I was 990 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,759 Speaker 1: part time, where I was full time making twenty something 991 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 1: thousand dollars a year, still putting a percentage at least 992 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:14,359 Speaker 1: of my pay in there. I was doing the right 993 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 1: thing consistently. It gets you where you want to go. Like, 994 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,160 Speaker 1: you might not be getting there quite as fast as 995 00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 1: you'd like to, but Ryan still hit that threshold and 996 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,440 Speaker 1: it didn't take a massive income in order to get there. 997 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,200 Speaker 1: So I think the same can be true for a 998 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:28,400 Speaker 1: bunch of how to money listeners. 999 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:29,200 Speaker 2: Let's uh. 1000 00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,279 Speaker 1: An anonymous Facebook poster said, my wife was laid off 1001 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,880 Speaker 1: on Monday. While this is an ideal, we're okay. She 1002 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:36,840 Speaker 1: got about two months worth of pay in severance and 1003 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:38,799 Speaker 1: we have twenty five thousand bucks in our e fund 1004 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,839 Speaker 1: thanks to this podcast and community. This setback does not 1005 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:43,480 Speaker 1: feel like the end of the world, and we can 1006 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,040 Speaker 1: look at the bright side, like being able to spend 1007 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,040 Speaker 1: more time with our son around the holidays. I just 1008 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,480 Speaker 1: wanted to share because you never know how quickly your 1009 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 1: situation can change, so managing debt and having a solid 1010 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 1: emergency fund is important. Because of this, she does not 1011 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,759 Speaker 1: feel the need to rush into a new job just 1012 00:43:57,920 --> 00:43:58,920 Speaker 1: for the paycheck either. 1013 00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,680 Speaker 2: Man. That stands out to me the last thing he 1014 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:03,680 Speaker 2: wrote there, because obviously it's awful to lose a job, 1015 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,719 Speaker 2: but it's even worse if your financial situation is a 1016 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:10,719 Speaker 2: total fiasco, and far too many folks have to take 1017 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:12,799 Speaker 2: the first job that's available to them, the first job 1018 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:16,319 Speaker 2: that's offered, which might mean make less pay or a 1019 00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,759 Speaker 2: less rewarding career. And you know that bigger emergency fund 1020 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,120 Speaker 2: is all about preventing you from having to make the 1021 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,719 Speaker 2: most expedient decision in favor of being able to make 1022 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,560 Speaker 2: one that's going to be best for you over the 1023 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 2: long term. Yes, and so, man, it just buys you 1024 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 2: more time. And I'm again this is a terrible situation 1025 00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 2: to find yourself in, but I'm so glad that you 1026 00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 2: were well prepared for. 1027 00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 1: And having to take the first thing that comes along 1028 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:44,120 Speaker 1: can completely derail your future earnings if you have to 1029 00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,400 Speaker 1: take something that's kind of maybe an inferior position to 1030 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,880 Speaker 1: what you're used to or you're overqualified for. So I 1031 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,239 Speaker 1: love that and having your your personal finances in order. 1032 00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,440 Speaker 1: This is why we talk about developing that three to 1033 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:58,120 Speaker 1: six month emergency fund, because that's what this is here 1034 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,480 Speaker 1: to prevent. And that's why instead of investing every dollar 1035 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,799 Speaker 1: beyond having one month, you want to have more saved 1036 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,840 Speaker 1: up so that in case this scenario arises, you're prepared 1037 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,040 Speaker 1: you can withstand the difficulty. So, man, this is a 1038 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,040 Speaker 1: great money win from this anonymous listener. Matt, you want 1039 00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:15,560 Speaker 1: to give us the next one? 1040 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, this one is from Amber, She writes, Hi, Matt 1041 00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,640 Speaker 2: and Joel, my husband and I had several money wins 1042 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,960 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four, but the one I am most 1043 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,720 Speaker 2: proud of is that we have religiously tracked our spending 1044 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:30,239 Speaker 2: all year via Google spreadsheets, which included specific categories and 1045 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:34,080 Speaker 2: expected versus actual spending. This has been an eye opening 1046 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,839 Speaker 2: exercise that allowed us to save an additional twenty one 1047 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:40,160 Speaker 2: thousand dollars in cash, as well as pay for all 1048 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,600 Speaker 2: of our landscaping home improvements, which was seven thousand dollars 1049 00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:47,080 Speaker 2: out of pocket this year. Hot Dog highly recommend that 1050 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,960 Speaker 2: everyone tracks their spending again. The ability to move the 1051 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,839 Speaker 2: needle so significantly by just paying attention, like I'm sure 1052 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:56,840 Speaker 2: I think for Amber, probably what blew her away was 1053 00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,640 Speaker 2: the fact that, like she didn't say anything about making 1054 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:01,839 Speaker 2: more money. What she said was that we did this 1055 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:03,920 Speaker 2: one thing and all of a sudden, it seems like 1056 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,880 Speaker 2: we pulled thirty thousand dollars out of nowhere. 1057 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,480 Speaker 1: It's just like it's like a pulling a rabbit out 1058 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,120 Speaker 1: of a hat. I'm sure what it felt like. It's 1059 00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,040 Speaker 1: like interested development. When they said that there's always money 1060 00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:14,480 Speaker 1: in the banana stand. I think there's always money in 1061 00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:14,840 Speaker 1: the budget. 1062 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:15,040 Speaker 2: Matt. 1063 00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:17,360 Speaker 1: It's like there's more money than you think there is. 1064 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,680 Speaker 1: It's just that we pittle it away, and not even 1065 00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,080 Speaker 1: on purpose. But when you start paying attention, it's amazing 1066 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,919 Speaker 1: how just focusing on your finances a little bit more. 1067 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:27,719 Speaker 1: You're gonna earnurve some dollars you didn't know you had. 1068 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:31,520 Speaker 2: You whip those dollars into shape. And even though our 1069 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,560 Speaker 2: recent conversation with Dana Morinda, you know, she's she's not 1070 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:38,440 Speaker 2: all for budgeting, but from everything we've seen, it just works. 1071 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:44,000 Speaker 2: Pat shared elder problem solved. Medicare does not cover dental care. 1072 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,160 Speaker 2: It's a real problem for seniors. Every tooth that goes 1073 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,160 Speaker 2: costs you at least two thousand dollars for our root, 1074 00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,040 Speaker 2: Canal and Crown. And let's not even talk about implants. 1075 00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:56,399 Speaker 2: I got dentures problem solved. Okay. I like this approach. Yeah, 1076 00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,680 Speaker 2: you just pull the teeth out, getting all gone. Getting 1077 00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:02,880 Speaker 2: this is like, I don't know. This is almost in 1078 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,920 Speaker 2: line with instead of having an expensive burial with an 1079 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:09,160 Speaker 2: expensive plot that you pay for with a fancy coffin 1080 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,440 Speaker 2: ahead of time, She's like, maybe we'll just go the 1081 00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:14,520 Speaker 2: cremation route. Man, Yeah, you know the pine box from Costco. Right, Like, 1082 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,480 Speaker 2: there are certain things you want to prioritize. And I'm 1083 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,480 Speaker 2: not gonna lie. If my teeth start to go in 1084 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,880 Speaker 2: my later years, I'm totally gonna I think go the 1085 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:23,600 Speaker 2: denture I could do. 1086 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:25,799 Speaker 1: I could see you going the George Washington wooden teeth 1087 00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:27,520 Speaker 1: rout too. Oh my god, Well you don't want to 1088 00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,680 Speaker 1: know what his actual teeth were made of. Oh well there, 1089 00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:31,839 Speaker 1: I mean it would, but also like it's a it's 1090 00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:32,319 Speaker 1: kind of dark. 1091 00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:33,839 Speaker 2: Okay, let's not go there. 1092 00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,319 Speaker 1: But Pat, congrats on that money. When Matt one more, 1093 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,960 Speaker 1: Leslie had one. She said, after listening to the show 1094 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,680 Speaker 1: for about five years, we finally switched away from our big, 1095 00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:46,319 Speaker 1: bad bank to Navy Federal, and just one month we 1096 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,880 Speaker 1: made more interest on our savings than we did in 1097 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,080 Speaker 1: the whole last year with the big bank. We still 1098 00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,440 Speaker 1: get value out of having local branches, and switching to 1099 00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,920 Speaker 1: Navy Federal has been a way to have that, but 1100 00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:57,839 Speaker 1: not the terrible offerings of a big bank. 1101 00:47:58,360 --> 00:47:58,600 Speaker 2: Love it. 1102 00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:00,160 Speaker 1: This is one of those things we talk about all 1103 00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,040 Speaker 1: the time, and I wonder if it falls on deaf 1104 00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,440 Speaker 1: years or if most of our listeners have done this 1105 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,479 Speaker 1: at some already. But we continue to bang that drum 1106 00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,840 Speaker 1: because it is such an important part of a healthy 1107 00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:14,000 Speaker 1: financial plan, is having a bank that doesn't hate you. 1108 00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:15,440 Speaker 1: And Leslie made the move. 1109 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like and I love how she wrote, 1110 00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,400 Speaker 2: like the big the big bad bank like makes me 1111 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,240 Speaker 2: think of like the big bad wolf, but like having 1112 00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,920 Speaker 2: a solid bank or credit union, Like it's such a 1113 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,600 Speaker 2: foundational thing. It's almost like getting enough sleep every every 1114 00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,840 Speaker 2: single night. Like it's just a no, like this is 1115 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,439 Speaker 2: a default sort of thing that oftentimes people they want 1116 00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,239 Speaker 2: to move on to the flashier things. I feel, like 1117 00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,560 Speaker 2: a good bank and budgeting, or like getting enough sleep 1118 00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,040 Speaker 2: and drinking enough water during the day. You know, it's 1119 00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:43,560 Speaker 2: like they're the kind of things that people don't want 1120 00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,719 Speaker 2: to pay attention to. Everybody wants wants to move on 1121 00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:49,920 Speaker 2: to like supplements and these procedures just whatever else that 1122 00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:51,640 Speaker 2: you want to do to like optimize your health, when 1123 00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:52,760 Speaker 2: in reality. 1124 00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,160 Speaker 1: It's like, let's let's start with the basics first, man, Yeah, 1125 00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:58,839 Speaker 1: it's was it John Wooden, the coach of UCLA. Who 1126 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:00,719 Speaker 1: would I think have the wrong guy? 1127 00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:01,640 Speaker 2: I think back. 1128 00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:03,680 Speaker 1: I mean this was like many many decades ago. I 1129 00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:07,080 Speaker 1: think he would have his players like retie their shoelaces 1130 00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,520 Speaker 1: multiple times, like before they started practice, and he was 1131 00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:12,799 Speaker 1: he was like just this sort of story, let's get 1132 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:16,880 Speaker 1: the basics down, guys. And it seems silly, but there 1133 00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,640 Speaker 1: really is something to the importance of the basics and 1134 00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,920 Speaker 1: the trying to move past those things and get onto 1135 00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:24,600 Speaker 1: like Tomahawk's lamb dunks or. 1136 00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:24,960 Speaker 2: Something like that. 1137 00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,400 Speaker 1: Maybe I'm making a lot of basketball references randomly in 1138 00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:29,239 Speaker 1: this episode for some reason, a basketball state of might. 1139 00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,120 Speaker 1: I don't even really watch basketball, but yeah, I think 1140 00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:35,040 Speaker 1: moving past the basics too quickly is a bad idea. 1141 00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,200 Speaker 1: Like you want to get those things covered, feel like 1142 00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:39,600 Speaker 1: you're you're solid in those regards, and that's going to 1143 00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:42,560 Speaker 1: move the needle like seventy to eighty percent of the way, 1144 00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,040 Speaker 1: and then you can, you know, gradually address the remaining 1145 00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,440 Speaker 1: twenty percent of the important money questions that you have. 1146 00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,040 Speaker 1: But big money went for Leslie for sure, getting rid 1147 00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,680 Speaker 1: of the big bank. Finally, that's right, Let's get back 1148 00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:54,760 Speaker 1: to our beer, Joel. So at the beginning I said, 1149 00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:58,080 Speaker 1: I just called this small batch by Monday Night Brewery. 1150 00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,680 Speaker 1: But that's just the line of beers whatever. So there's 1151 00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:02,799 Speaker 1: this even smaller. 1152 00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:06,319 Speaker 2: Label that is really aged, so I can barely read it, 1153 00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,319 Speaker 2: and it looks like it says Falling Sea Tap or 1154 00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:13,120 Speaker 2: something like that, but no, it says Falling Star. So 1155 00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:15,520 Speaker 2: the little bottom part of our war off there as 1156 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,960 Speaker 2: well as the middle of the sky Falling Star and 1157 00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,520 Speaker 2: I looked it up online, so there you go, which 1158 00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,680 Speaker 2: is this is a tart Seyson ale age on second 1159 00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:29,200 Speaker 2: used cherries Montmorency cherries specifically that were left over after 1160 00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:30,600 Speaker 2: a spontaneous brew. 1161 00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:32,040 Speaker 1: What do you think about this beer, dude? This is 1162 00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:35,520 Speaker 1: one of my absolute favorite beer styles. Tart seysons so 1163 00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,080 Speaker 1: good like non tart saisons with a little. 1164 00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:39,120 Speaker 2: Bit of the cherry action going on. 1165 00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,640 Speaker 1: Yes, just a little bit of that cherry coming through. 1166 00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:43,800 Speaker 2: This is like the perfect barrel age sour. 1167 00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:44,160 Speaker 7: Yeah. 1168 00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:45,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I'd even be okay with more fruit, but 1169 00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:47,440 Speaker 1: the fact that it's second used cherries, you're not going 1170 00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,800 Speaker 1: to get as much of the flavor coming through, but it's 1171 00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,560 Speaker 1: still I'm a big fan of tart saisons and with 1172 00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:54,520 Speaker 1: a little bit of that fruit action in it, Man, 1173 00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,520 Speaker 1: this thing is super tasty. 1174 00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,800 Speaker 2: Well balanced, So it's got the right amount of sweetness 1175 00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,239 Speaker 2: going on, with a right on a funk as well 1176 00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:05,080 Speaker 2: that you get from like you can taste the previous 1177 00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:08,520 Speaker 2: spontaneous ale that this was derived from. Yeah, essentially, and. 1178 00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:11,120 Speaker 1: There's something it's really hard to describe what funk means 1179 00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,840 Speaker 1: in a beer, but you know. It's one of the 1180 00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:15,560 Speaker 1: things where you know it when you taste it. Yeah, 1181 00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:17,120 Speaker 1: and it's delicious, Like once. 1182 00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,920 Speaker 2: You've experienced a spontaneously fermented beer, you just know what 1183 00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:20,440 Speaker 2: it tastes like. 1184 00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,399 Speaker 1: And it's just got this like depth in this there's 1185 00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,520 Speaker 1: a level of like interesting vibes being put out by 1186 00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,560 Speaker 1: the funkiness of the beer. The way it kind of 1187 00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,480 Speaker 1: comes across your tongue and the different sorts of flavor 1188 00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:35,400 Speaker 1: impact it has like on your psyche is like significant. 1189 00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,640 Speaker 1: So I am a big fan. This is my jam. 1190 00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,480 Speaker 2: Joel's really taking this beer to hearts made me crazy, Matt. 1191 00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:42,640 Speaker 2: This one's been aged as well, so it's bottled back 1192 00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:44,960 Speaker 2: in April of twenty twenty two. Some beers like fresh 1193 00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:46,680 Speaker 2: hop IPAs you want to drink as soon as possible. 1194 00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:50,520 Speaker 2: But beers like this, dude, just find cellared. They're good 1195 00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,600 Speaker 2: for many years down the road. Sometimes they just get 1196 00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,279 Speaker 2: better with time. Indeed, like you my friend. Yeah, well, dude, 1197 00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,879 Speaker 2: this is the last episode of twenty twenty four. So 1198 00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,440 Speaker 2: to everyone out there, we hope you have a great 1199 00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:05,040 Speaker 2: New Year's Eve tomorrow, and hey, we'll actually have an 1200 00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:08,000 Speaker 2: episode for you here come January first. So you can 1201 00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:11,520 Speaker 2: look forward to that one. We're not slacking plus fantastic 1202 00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:12,640 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. 1203 00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:15,000 Speaker 1: And not to dampen all the money wins from today, Matt, 1204 00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,279 Speaker 1: but it's time to start plotting out what sort of 1205 00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,520 Speaker 1: wins you want to accomplish in twenty twenty five. So 1206 00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,080 Speaker 1: I know that's on people's minds right now. Be thinking 1207 00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,120 Speaker 1: about it and make sure you have some audacious money 1208 00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,160 Speaker 1: goal set for yourself. Can't wait to hear from you 1209 00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:27,680 Speaker 1: a year from now after you crush. 1210 00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,000 Speaker 2: Them exactly, But buddy, that's going to be it until 1211 00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,560 Speaker 2: next time. Best Friends Out, Best Friends Out,