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Speaker 1: This is One Bill's Live, presented by called Lida Health.

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Speaker 2: Welcome into One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 3: I'm Maddi Glab alongside of Bill's Hall of Famer Steve Tasker.

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Speaker 2: Here for the next two hours.

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Speaker 3: Fill in for Chris Brown because it's the off season

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Speaker 3: and our guys deserve some time off. Even though it's

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Speaker 3: the off season, there's a lot of stuff happening in

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Speaker 3: the NFL right now, less than a week away from

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Speaker 3: free agency. The start of the new league year March

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Speaker 3: twelfth at four o'clock officially begins things, but March tenth

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Speaker 3: through the twelfth, there's the negotiating period where we're gonna

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Speaker 3: hear a lot of things coming out about different teams,

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Speaker 3: including the Buffalo Bill Steve, can you believe last year

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Speaker 3: March sixth, this date was the day that the Bills

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Speaker 3: released Jordan Ployer, Trey White, and Mitch Morse. Was that

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Speaker 3: felt like a dark day here in Buffalo because it

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Speaker 3: was a few players who we and so many fans,

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Speaker 3: including our coaching staff and other players on the team,

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Speaker 3: had grown to love and appreciate so much.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it felt like we were It felt like for

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Speaker 1: the first time this organizations took a step back, like

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Speaker 1: it was gonna go out. We're gonna you know, it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a tough year coming up. Yeah, it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be rough and we're gonna have to piece it together.

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Speaker 1: It's not gonna you know, hope. You know, we can

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Speaker 1: keep Josh healthy. The whole thing. I mean, it was like,

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Speaker 1: what was it gonna do? It was hard to see

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Speaker 1: a path to wins. And of course, then as it

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Speaker 1: turned out, the team got better, went to the AFC

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Speaker 1: Championship game and you know two spots of the consecutive

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Speaker 1: spots of the ball later where we get put out

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Speaker 1: of the championship game. Again, Yeah, that it was rough.

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Speaker 1: It was a rough day. And I'll say this too

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Speaker 1: about what you and I have been sitting here the

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Speaker 1: last couple of days. And stuff's going on. Because you know,

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Speaker 1: deadlines always spur action. You gotta get it done before

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Speaker 1: the deadline. So the closer it gets, the more hurried

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Speaker 1: teams are gonna be. And you know, they gotta make

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Speaker 1: decisions on guys they got they got a religion. They

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Speaker 1: got to trade Dk Metcalf, they gotta cut Tyler Lockett,

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Speaker 1: they gotta you know what I mean, They gotta move

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Speaker 1: Joey Bosa from uh, from the Chargers. They got all

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Speaker 1: this stuff's going on, and it's what people can't believe.

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Speaker 1: We do the radio show year round and here we

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Speaker 1: are sitting in a week in mid March about it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we got we got stuff going on. So it's it's

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Speaker 1: pretty fun. But yeah, you think back across the year

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Speaker 1: about where we were twelve months ago, today or yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Maybe Mitch Morse announced his retirement today. Uh, he announced

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Speaker 1: his retirement from the league. Mitch Morse. Yeah, it was

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Speaker 1: hard to see the team getting better when he left,

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Speaker 1: but they did. Jordan Poyer, Micah Hyde, Trey White. It

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Speaker 1: was a rough day this time last year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're you're seeing these names and you anticipate

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Speaker 3: some of it, right, you know. Okay, last year was

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Speaker 3: a year where Brandon Bean had said, we're gonna have

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Speaker 3: to do We're gonna have to move some things around

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Speaker 3: to become cap compliant. Last year was the year where

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Speaker 3: people are thinking ahead of the season, maybe this isn't

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Speaker 3: contending for the Super Bowl. And you see them release

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Speaker 3: You're thinking, how are they gonna field a really competitive

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Speaker 1: You have to make a decision too that you know,

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Speaker 1: even though the guy may not be on your team anymore,

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Speaker 1: it may not you know, you see him every day

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Speaker 1: anymore during the season. You know you still have a

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Speaker 1: You got ten different guys in the locker room at least,

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Speaker 1: As much as you want to try and do the

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Speaker 1: whether the Chiefs or whoever the Philadelphia Eagles, you can't.

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Speaker 1: There's too many moving parts. And it's one of the

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Speaker 1: thanks man, see you, you know, either voluntarily retiring like

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Speaker 1: Mitch Morse did like other guys have, or your contracts

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Speaker 1: It's yeah, that's this is I think fans feel this

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Speaker 1: feel it. Fans feel this now, guys that they have learned, people.

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Speaker 2: That guys that you love.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they've watched play. Now they're not gonna watch play.

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Speaker 1: For players, it's about this next year, and they won't

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Speaker 1: that stuff happens because you you spend time with them

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Speaker 2: That's true.

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Speaker 3: Was there ever a point in your career or speaking

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Speaker 3: with other NFL players where the losses like that of

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Speaker 3: it hurts to say bye to people. It hurts to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's always sad seeing guys go, even if they're

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Speaker 1: going for a big contract. You know, I think for

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Speaker 1: While okay, you can see how why the decisions are made,

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Speaker 1: but in the locker room you can feel it. When

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Speaker 1: you're a young player and they cut that guy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think he's not here. They let him go. You

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Speaker 1: it's shocking, they're like, what are you talking about? Like,

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Speaker 1: But man, oh man, you love the guys. He's helped you.

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Speaker 1: and that's you know that some of these guys go

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Speaker 1: through that, all of them go through it. At some point.

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Speaker 3: Last year, the Bills had twenty two unrestricted free agents.

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Speaker 3: It was a big group of guys who you didn't

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Speaker 3: know if they were going to come back and and

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Speaker 3: blue and red for the twenty twenty four season. This year,

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Speaker 3: they only have twelve unrestricted free agents, so you're not

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Speaker 3: what he meant to the team on and off the field.

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Speaker 3: Ty Johnson is one of our running backs who you

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Speaker 3: just about a week away from seeing who's gonna return,

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Speaker 3: pieced together, and in this waiting period, Tasker, it's tough

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Speaker 3: piece this thing together. They have a clearer picture right now.

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Speaker 3: They don't know what's gonna happen in the draft, But

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Speaker 3: people like us are. You're kind of in no man's

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Speaker 3: this thing gonna look like. We know we got our quarterback,

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Speaker 3: we know we got some big pieces, but how is

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Speaker 2: Be filled out?

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Speaker 1: And it's always the thing we struggle with in our

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Speaker 1: end of the business, the media. We don't There's a

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Speaker 1: get the cap money from, who they're going to restructure

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Speaker 1: who they've got their eyes on outside the building. Guys

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Speaker 1: part of is we don't know really what they think

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Speaker 1: the hunk now they don't We don't I don't know

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Speaker 1: if they're gonna cut a guy we are completely unexpected.

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Speaker 1: We don't know if they want to. We don't know

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Speaker 3: million in salary cap space. That makes the Browns cap

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Speaker 3: compliant ahead of the new league year. Watson, who is

435
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Speaker 3: twenty nine, has two years remaining on the five year,

436
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Speaker 3: fully guaranteed, two hundred and thirty million dollar contract that

437
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Speaker 3: he signed in March of twenty twenty two. He has

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Speaker 3: still owed forty six million over the next two seasons.

439
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Speaker 3: Let's remember, Watson retore his right achilles ten to in

440
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Speaker 3: three months after the initial injury in October. Watson had

441
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Speaker 3: surgery in the beginning of January and is back at.

442
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Speaker 2: The facility rehabbing.

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Speaker 3: The latest on that is the team is trying to

444
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Speaker 3: do everything possible to make sure that he makes a

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Speaker 3: full recovery.

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Speaker 2: So not super surprising.

447
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Speaker 3: You had to guess that was going to happen for

448
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 3: the Browns to become cap compliant, just because that that's

449
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 3: a deal that it happened in twenty twenty two, but

450
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Speaker 3: worse ill talking about it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, one of the all time worst contracts ever to

452
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Speaker 1: be offered. Certainly was accepted, but in Deshaun's case, absolute

453
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Speaker 1: flushing of two hundred and thirty six million dollars down.

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Speaker 1: And this is this is the first year in the

455
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Speaker 1: structure of the contract the way I think it is.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they've been able to restructure it until

457
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Speaker 1: this year. It never made any sense. And so finally

458
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Speaker 1: they get to a point where they could do something

459
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Speaker 1: of that, and sure enough they do and to clear

460
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Speaker 1: up some cap space for themselves man oh Man and

461
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Speaker 1: then having the catastrophic injury that he had last year

462
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Speaker 1: in October and October and then he had surgery, got

463
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Speaker 1: it done, it was rehabbing it and it and it

464
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Speaker 1: severed it again. Just it could not possibly have gone

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Speaker 1: worse for Deshaun Watson in clear could not possibly have

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Speaker 1: gone worse. And you know there's there that's a franchise

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Speaker 1: that you want to talk They are probably in recent

468
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Speaker 1: years far behind the New York Jets. You can name

469
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Speaker 1: any any franchise. Cleveland has been among the league leaders

470
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Speaker 1: in struggles. Yeah, it really had at every level coaching.

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Speaker 1: They had a Coach of the Year and they couldn't

472
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Speaker 1: get to the playoffs, the whole thing. You know, sooner

473
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Speaker 1: or later, somebody's you have to figure it out down there.

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Speaker 2: You would hope so, but.

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Speaker 1: They've been saying that for literally since they came back

476
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Speaker 1: into the NFL in nineteen ninety nine.

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Speaker 3: The Rams and wide receiver too To at Well have

478
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Speaker 3: agreed to terms on a one year deal. The contract

479
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 3: is worth ten million, and five million of that is

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Speaker 3: fully guaranteed. At Well spent his entire four year career

481
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Speaker 3: with the Rams. He had forty two catches five hundred

482
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Speaker 3: and sixty two yards last season and has four touchdowns

483
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Speaker 3: in his career. He was drafted by the Rams in

484
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Speaker 3: the second round of the twenty twenty one draft. Cooper

485
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Speaker 3: Cup announced a month ago that the Rams were seeking

486
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Speaker 3: to trade him immediately. We haven't really seen anything come

487
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Speaker 3: about with Cup and another team, but lagm Les Sneed

488
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Speaker 3: said recently that it would be the least likely scenario

489
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Speaker 3: for Cup to end up back in LA ahead of

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Speaker 3: the twenty twenty five season. So the Rams trying to

491
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Speaker 3: ink some of their wide receivers to be a part

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Speaker 3: of the roster next year.

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Speaker 2: At Well is.

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Speaker 3: One of those players. Ten million for him, so good

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Speaker 3: for the guy. And we're seeing lots of mock drafts

496
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Speaker 3: come out after the NFL scouting Combine. It kind of

497
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 3: goes quiet during the combine and then you see a

498
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Speaker 3: slew get released after the combine, after these players have

499
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 3: done medical, have tested, have talked to different teams. Charles Davis,

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Speaker 3: NFL analyst Charles Davis has released his first mock draft.

501
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Speaker 3: He released it yesterday afternoon. Vis has the Bills taking

502
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Speaker 3: an edge rusher out of Boston College. It's Donovan as Iraku.

503
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 3: Davis says this could easily be an offensive weapon help

504
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Speaker 3: reigning MVP quarterback Josh Allen, or a player to bolster

505
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 3: the back end on defense like Georgia's Malachi Starts, but

506
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 3: the Bills's defensive front could use some help to as

507
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 3: Iraku can be a double digit sack guy in the NFL.

508
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Speaker 3: So a little bit of mock draft for you here

509
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Speaker 3: on a Thursday afternoon.

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Speaker 1: I'm ready for it. I'm ready. You know, there's others

511
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Speaker 1: out there. There's a bunch of other drafts out and

512
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Speaker 1: mock drafts out there. We're also getting stuff about you know,

513
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Speaker 1: DK Metcalvin asked for the trade. We talked about that

514
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 1: all day yesterday. Now it comes out also that the

515
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Speaker 1: Seahawks are seeking a first rounder and a third rounder

516
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Speaker 1: for DK Metcalfo. Well, okay, the problem is you got

517
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Speaker 1: to give them the first pick of your first round

518
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Speaker 1: pick and third round pick, and you've got to sign

519
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Speaker 1: DK to a new deal. And he wants thirty million per.

520
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 2: That's a lot.

521
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Speaker 1: It's a lot for a guy. He's great. He's a dude, man,

522
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 1: he is a legit number one. He is an he

523
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 1: is a guy's a stallion man. He's a can run

524
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 1: out run people. He's bigger than everybody. I mean, the

525
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: guy's a dude. But that is a lot of stuff

526
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: to put into one spot. Now, if the Bills are

527
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Speaker 1: sitting there and you know they want to do that

528
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Speaker 1: and they want to make it happen, they may be

529
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Speaker 1: able to. They clear up the cap space, throw the

530
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Speaker 1: draft picks at him. You know, you put a lot

531
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Speaker 1: more on the offensive side of the ball in a

532
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: year where you thought you were gonna need defensive players.

533
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: Are they going to keep up with their recipe and

534
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 1: just say, you know what, We're just gonna We're just

535
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: gonna win with offense, have our defense seat they can

536
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 1: turn out some turnovers like they did last year, We're

537
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna do it that way again. We're gonna

538
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,479
Speaker 1: just make it impossible for teams to keep up with us.

539
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: They're either their offense will make a mistake and they'll

540
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: lose possessions to us, or our defense will get them

541
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Speaker 1: off the field once on third down and they'll start

542
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: dropping behind double digits because our offense is never going

543
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: to not score. Right, that may be the recipe if

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Speaker 1: you get if you did this deal for DK Metcalf,

545
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Speaker 1: because you're that's thirty million a year and a first

546
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: round pick and a third round pick. That's that's a lot.

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Speaker 2: That's steep.

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Speaker 1: I mean you can still pick the first and thing,

549
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 1: you can still pick eight defensive players, right if your

550
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: other eight picks, but man o man.

551
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Speaker 3: And with the player like DK Metcalf, you think about

552
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 3: the team that he could be dropped into. One, it's

553
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 3: got to be a team who has that money to

554
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 3: work with. Two, it's got to be a team who's

555
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 3: not already paying a wide receiver thirty million dollars a

556
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 3: year or upwards of that twenty five million dollars a year.

557
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 3: You rarely see teams who are paying two wide receivers

558
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Speaker 3: twenty five to thirty million a year. You can talk

559
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 3: about the Dolphins, who have been a team who have

560
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 3: paid wide receivers in the past, but rarely do you

561
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 3: see it work out where you can you can keep

562
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 3: multiple receivers that are making that much money. The Bills

563
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 3: don't have a receiver that they're paying thirty million dollars

564
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 3: a year, so maybe they are in that conversation. But

565
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 3: you have to fit a left tackle, You have to

566
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 3: fit your quarterback, you have to fit your your premier

567
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 3: defensive lineman.

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Speaker 2: And the thing is and the rest of the roster.

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Speaker 1: The Bills went to the AFC Championship without one. Without

570
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: one well, and you can say, well they would have

571
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 1: been it was not gonna be any easier with that guy,

572
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Speaker 1: because then I mean, it's different.

573
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Speaker 2: Your offense changes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no guarantee that if you get DK Metcalf,

575
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 1: youah come in, you're gonna get better. They scored more

576
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Speaker 1: than anybody else in the league last year. What do

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00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: you you know, I don't know. I don't know if

578
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 1: I if I buy into it, that the Bills got

579
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: to have that guy. I think if they'd have gotten

580
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 1: one or two styles. I mean, you look at their schedule,

581
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: think about it. Last year the Bills, they lose to

582
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: the Rams forty two. They scored forty two points and

583
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: lost to the Rams. Yeap. Then they get into this,

584
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: they get into it with the Baltimore Ravens. They can't

585
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: get the Ravens off the field. They lose thirty five

586
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,719
Speaker 1: to ten, and then they get I can't believe they

587
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: lost the Houston Texans. But you know, that's just a

588
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: game that's that's outside them. That's an aberration of what

589
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. But this is a team that I mean,

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00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: they were hard to keep up with. They were really

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Speaker 1: hard to keep up.

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Speaker 2: With, average more than thirty points.

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Speaker 1: And I get it too that they got a lot

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00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: of help from their defense because it turned turnovers. But

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00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 1: their defense was bad on third down.

596
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were statistically one of the worst in the league.

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00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: They were bad. And the Reds they were bad situational football.

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00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: I mean they had they didn't have very many good

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00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: statistics defensively, but they were really good at turnovers. As

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Speaker 1: an AFC championship, yeah, you know, so it's an AC

601
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: championship team, So I don't know that you want to

602
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: dive back into. And the thing that always bothers me

603
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: about it, they did the right thing signing von Miller

604
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: until he got his knee hurt, and then he was

605
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: out and you're paying him and he's not playing, and

606
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: he comes back and he's not quite himself and he's

607
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Speaker 1: thirty five. Then he can't bounce back like he did.

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Speaker 1: It was great in the first half of that first season. Man,

609
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: he was killing it. It might be great for the

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00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 1: first half of this DK Metcalf thing, but you got

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00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: so many assets in fewer and fewer guys. If something

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00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: happens to those few guys, then the value's gone. So

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Speaker 1: I don't know. It's it's a philosophical deal.

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Speaker 2: We can talk about it in a really different ways.

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Speaker 1: My ener gm is conflicted.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of your energm, what will it take for the

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Speaker 3: bills to satisfy your ener gm this offseason? We're asking

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Speaker 3: you that question today. Give us a call at eight

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Speaker 3: oh three five point fifty or tweet at us.

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Speaker 2: The phone lines are open.

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Speaker 3: We're taking your calls next year on one Bills Live

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Speaker 3: ORP presented by Client Health on Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back into One Bills Live.

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Speaker 3: We've got Steve Tasker and Maddi Glab manning the desk today.

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Speaker 2: We're asking you a question.

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00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 3: It's what will it take the Bills to satisfy your

627
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 3: inner GM this offseason? Free agency is set to begin

628
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 3: on March twelfth at four o'clock. That's when the new

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Speaker 3: league year officially begins. March March tenth marks the start

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Speaker 3: of the negotiating period, and we've already seen teams release players,

631
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 3: teams trade for players, signed for players. The madness has begun.

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Speaker 3: So we want to get you involved in the conversation.

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Speaker 3: And we're gonna go first to Judy, who's been hanging

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Speaker 3: on for a little bit. Judy from Buffalo, you're on

635
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Speaker 3: with us, now, how are you doing?

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00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 2: Judy?

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Speaker 5: Okay? Steve, you know you stole what little thunder I

638
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 5: had because I've been on the line for about half

639
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 5: an hour and I was going to call in and say,

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Speaker 5: dk Metkiff is not worth a first and a third

641
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 5: round draft choice and thirty million dollars a year. Forgive

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00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 5: me if I'm not mistaken. My favorite receiver Shakir on

643
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,280
Speaker 5: our team a slot receiver hit almost as many yards

644
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 5: as he I this is this guy who should be

645
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:43,439
Speaker 5: begging to get onto our team, let alone holding us hostage.

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Speaker 5: And while we're at it, I'm just curious. And the

647
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 5: practice squad, we have a couple of receivers. Are they

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00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 5: worth anything? I bring up Shavers and there's somebody else

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00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 5: on the team. You know, are they worth? Are they

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00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 5: worthy prospects? And I can't believe in this day and

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Speaker 5: age that the Bills can't go out and find somebody

652
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Speaker 5: in the second, third, fourth, fifth round, Like, uh right,

653
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Speaker 5: somebody's got to be out there that we can use

654
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Speaker 5: at a less than less price than we are willing

655
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Speaker 5: to pay at this point.

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Speaker 1: Right, thanks, thanks Judy. Yeah, uh, there are some guys

657
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Speaker 1: on the practice squad. First of all, there's uh Jalen Virgil,

658
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: there's a kJ Hamler, Terrell Shavers at wide receiver. Let

659
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: me see another one would be I think that's it

660
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: those three wide receivers. Then you've got running backs like

661
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Speaker 1: Frank Gore juniors on there. Oh yeah, So they do

662
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: have some guys on their practice squad or endo the

663
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Speaker 1: season with those guys on the practice squad. Shavers is

664
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Speaker 1: a guy that's really intriguing because of his size and speed.

665
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: He's six four to two eleven. He's a big dude.

666
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Speaker 2: He was ranged really high coming out of high school too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Uh, and so he's a little high cut means he's

669
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Speaker 1: long leg and stuff. He's not a shifty guy. But

670
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 1: he's a he's a he's a big time target. This

671
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Speaker 1: would be this is gonna be a really interesting year

672
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Speaker 1: for him because it'll be like his third year out

673
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,320
Speaker 1: and he'll have kind of his feet under him and

674
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Speaker 1: he'll know his way around training camp. He'll know what

675
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Speaker 1: it's gonna take for him to survive the cuts, all

676
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Speaker 1: of that. If Shavers can't get it done this year,

677
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Speaker 1: then maybe it's time to move on from him. You're right,

678
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: and you're right. I I agree with you. I'm I'm

679
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Speaker 1: at this point sitting in the chair. I'm at where

680
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 1: my decisions and opinions don't mean anything, you know, just

681
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 1: fun to talk about. I am all about value. Khalil

682
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Speaker 1: Shakir earned every cent of the contract he got UH

683
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Speaker 1: this offseason. It's a I think he's gonna he's gonna

684
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Speaker 1: be able to earn the money going forward. A guy

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Speaker 1: like DK Metcalf I have a hard time believing that

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Speaker 1: for a first rounder, a third rounder and thirty million dollars,

687
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Speaker 1: how well is DK Metcalf going to have to play

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Speaker 1: to make you feel like, yeah, that's that's he's worth it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, and remember everything he gets is going to be

691
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Speaker 1: something off the plate of anybody else on that of Shakir,

692
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Speaker 1: of James Cook, of Kincaid, of Knox, of Kurtis Samuel,

693
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Speaker 1: all these guys that are going to be on the

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Speaker 1: team or maybe on the team. You know, DK Metcalf

695
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: and all of that stuff would suck opportunities away from

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Speaker 1: those guys who aren't making thirty million. And it's it's

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00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: it's the running It's in microcosm. It's exactly the conversation

698
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Speaker 1: I always have about the running back spot. You can

699
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Speaker 1: get a Saquon Barkley, Derek Henry or James Cook and

700
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 1: pay him fifteen to twenty million dollars, or you can

701
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Speaker 1: get a Ty Johnson or Ray Davis or somebody like that,

702
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,720
Speaker 1: pay him a tenth of it and get ninety percent

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Speaker 1: of the production. That's a tough call. I get this too,

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Speaker 1: and I'm I'm kind of with you. Most fans say,

705
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Speaker 1: I don't care about any of that. When we are

706
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Speaker 1: in a position every team gets there. When we're in

707
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Speaker 1: a spot in a game where we gonna push all

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Speaker 1: our chance, we got to make a play to keep

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Speaker 1: in the game and to win it, or to stay alive.

710
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: I needed James Cook or a DK Metcalf or one

711
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Speaker 1: of these monsters on the field, so I can just

712
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Speaker 1: give it to them and say, all right, we got it.

713
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Speaker 1: I get that you feel like you can depend on

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Speaker 1: a big time player in moments like that more than

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Speaker 1: a guy like an unproven Khalil Shakir or a rookie

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Speaker 1: key On Coleman or a free agent like Curtis Samuel

717
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 1: or mac Hollands out there. But we found out this

718
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Speaker 1: last year, when they're in the right environment, all those

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Speaker 1: guys come through on a regular occasion exactly, and your

720
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Speaker 1: team ends up scoring thirty points a game and setting

721
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Speaker 1: the league in franchise, setting a franchise record for points

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Speaker 1: through regular season, or posts all of that. So I

723
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Speaker 1: don't mind paying anybody anything as long as they earn it.

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Speaker 1: That's the problem. I don't want to pay them and

725
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Speaker 1: then have them disappear.

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Speaker 3: Let's go over to Joe and Jay and Hamilton sorry, Jay,

727
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Speaker 3: and Hamilton is joining us. Now, Jay, come on into

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Speaker 3: the conversation. What do you think about metcalf?

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Speaker 6: So absolutely, First of all, Steve, first, Baba, Hall of Famer.

730
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Speaker 6: You're going to get there, my friend, you deserve every

731
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Speaker 6: single bit of its coming.

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Speaker 4: Gone.

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Speaker 6: I love watching play, my friend.

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Speaker 4: Awesome.

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Speaker 6: So listen, here's what I think. Everybody eats philosophy while successful.

736
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Speaker 6: At the end of the day, I come to results.

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Speaker 6: So I work in communications and I communicate that everybody

738
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:45,800
Speaker 6: eats philosophy looks good on paper, stats look good, tds

739
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 6: look good, average for play looks good, all that kind

740
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Speaker 6: of stuff. But then the result is did it give

741
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 6: us a championship? And I look at this team as

742
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 6: from the twenty to the other twenty, we move the

743
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 6: ball well. So at the end of the day, when

744
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 6: we need that big play, when we need that go

745
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 6: to receiver in this case, to be that that person

746
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Speaker 6: that's going to get us that need a touchdown or

747
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,919
Speaker 6: first down, that's where I think this team is still

748
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Speaker 6: missing that. So I look at the champ I look

749
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Speaker 6: at the championship game we're in, and then I also

750
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Speaker 6: look at how the Eagles did what they did when

751
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 6: Saquon was being stuffed in the run, and then the

752
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 6: two receivers, aj Brown and Smith were still killing it.

753
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Speaker 6: I think with Josh Allen and that weapon, I am hungry,

754
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Speaker 6: as I'm sure you guys are hungry for a Super Bowl.

755
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Speaker 6: And when you have a central like Josh and the

756
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 6: ability now to go get a DK, you have to

757
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 6: make that work. There's no reason not to do that now.

758
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,280
Speaker 6: Miles Garrett was nice, but that's going to be difficult.

759
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 6: DK is now available. I want that wide receiver. I

760
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 6: want the wide receiver train to finally get to the

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Speaker 6: station and let's do what we can. It's time to

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Speaker 6: bring a championship home to Buffalo, and Steve, you deserve it.

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Speaker 1: You stay on the line. I got to ask you

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Speaker 1: this though, because here's the thing. I hear what you're

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Speaker 1: saying about the offense, and you're saying, that's where we're

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Speaker 1: at right now. Because the offense was wildly successful. They

767
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Speaker 1: were top five in red zone. So when they got

768
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Speaker 1: they didn't just move between the twenties. They were top

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Speaker 1: five in the league. When they got down there. They

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Speaker 1: scored touchdowns on sixty six on sixty six percent of

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Speaker 1: their times they were inside the red zone. They average

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Speaker 1: average thirty four minutes of possession time. They were number

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Speaker 1: one in possession time. They kept the ball away from people.

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Speaker 1: Their offense was not the problem. But you're acting like

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Speaker 1: the offense is the only thing that means anything in wins.

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Speaker 1: And right now, we got it. We're talking about getting

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Speaker 1: the offense better. I mean, you're going to make it

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Speaker 1: easier for teams to stay on the field and keep

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Speaker 1: Buffalo off the field if our defense gets further and

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Speaker 1: further behind.

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Speaker 6: No, I get it. And here's what I'll saying and

782
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Speaker 6: appreciate the conversation, Steve. The defense to me was still

783
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 6: a liability, right and we all know about the pass

784
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 6: rushing issues we're facing. And believe me, if I could

785
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 6: have Miles Garret on this team, I take it in

786
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Speaker 6: a heartbeat.

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Speaker 5: That said.

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Speaker 6: The bottom line for me is simply this. The way

789
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 6: you win football games is by scoring more points than

790
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 6: the other team. And if you look at the Chiefs game,

791
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Speaker 6: and I'll end here and I appreciate this. On that

792
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,320
Speaker 6: last drive, who was the go to guy on that drive?

793
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 6: We had Ty Johnson in instead of James Cook. I

794
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 6: know why we did. But the end of the day,

795
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Speaker 6: if you're putting DK Metcalf on the field, Steve, give

796
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Speaker 6: me a break. We're gonna get a chance to make

797
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,359
Speaker 6: that play and we need it at the moment we need.

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Speaker 1: In my brain, I get you, Thanks Jay, thanks for

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Speaker 1: the call. I agree with you because here's the thing,

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Speaker 1: and it's exactly what I said a minute ago. We

801
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Speaker 1: all get caught up in this when there's a moment

802
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: and well, let's just shrug our shoulders. The Bills are

803
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 1: gonna have those moments. Next year, they're gonna be in

804
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 1: a playoff game and they're gonna have a time where

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Speaker 1: they're gonna need a moment a guy to step up

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Speaker 1: in that moment. DK Metcalf might be one of those guys.

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00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: I don't know if you get to that moment. That

808
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 1: moment may come at the end of the regular season

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00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:12,879
Speaker 1: when you got to make a play just to get

810
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. If you go the way you've been going,

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Speaker 1: that moment's gonna come in the playoffs. Because you sewed

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Speaker 1: up the division in Week thirteen in record time and

813
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 1: you're mowing people down, those moments are gonna come. And

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Speaker 1: I get it. You want to have a guy that

815
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: you and I can depend on. But I mean, you

816
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: got Josh Allen throwing over the shoulder in the AFC

817
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 1: Championship game to Mac Hollins for a touchdown out of

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Speaker 1: the blue.

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Speaker 2: I mean really remember, Yeah, so beautiful.

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Speaker 1: Don't be little the guys on the roster because they

821
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Speaker 1: got a guy throwing the football who helps guys elevate.

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Speaker 1: I'm with you, DK, Metcalf seems like an easy fix,

823
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 1: not a fix, but an easy way to improve your

824
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: recipe for winning. I just think there are more reasonable

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Speaker 1: ways to do it. I mean without going thirty million

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Speaker 1: dollars a first round or in a third rounder.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's nice to think about.

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Speaker 3: Okay, convers such a big player like this would make

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Speaker 3: that catch in that moment, but maybe he wouldn't. I mean,

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Speaker 3: looking at his catch percentage sixty one point one percent

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Speaker 3: last season, Khalil Shakirs catch rate last season seventy six percent.

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Speaker 2: He was at the top of the league.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he may, DK may make those catches, but we've

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Speaker 1: been we've seen it proven that other guys will think

835
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Speaker 1: about this. Last year, it was a quarterback sneak off

836
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 1: the left side that came up short, got spotted short.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't anybody not making you.

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Speaker 3: Know what I mean, one of these they were trusting

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Speaker 3: their best play at that moment, the best player on

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Speaker 3: the team.

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Speaker 1: That's right. You're gonna get into those moments, and there's

842
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: no guarantees that all this stuff going just the right

843
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: way will be successful. But the way the Bills have

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00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 1: been doing it so far, they're in that moment every

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00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: single year, and they're the other than Kansas City, they're

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Speaker 1: the only team that has been able to do that

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00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: for the last five years, every single year, every single year.

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Speaker 1: Nobody else has been there like that. And of course,

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00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 1: you know, the Bills fans is frustrating because you got that.

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00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: You know, they got the guys in Arrowhead Stadium there

851
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 1: that you got to look up at all the time.

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00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 1: It's always them, always them, all of them. But don't

853
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 1: don't get caught up in that. In fact that this

854
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 1: is a team that is always going to have that moment.

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Speaker 1: So I'm it's a great conversation to have about how

856
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,760
Speaker 1: you get over that that in those moments.

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Speaker 3: Taking the time out here, we'll be back in a

858
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Speaker 3: few minutes hitting up the phone lines. Next on One

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Speaker 3: Bill's Live, presented by Clyde Helth on Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 2: We're back here on one Bills Live.

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Speaker 3: Whove got Mike Girardi joining us at two o'clock to

862
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 3: chime into this free agency conversation. He works for Boston

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Speaker 3: Sports Journal, And just as we come back from break,

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Speaker 3: there's some news surrounding the Bills and their roster for

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Speaker 3: this upcoming season.

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00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 2: According to Ian.

867
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 3: Rappaport, the Bills are releasing punter Sam Martin today. According

868
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 3: to a source, Martin is in the final year of

869
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 3: his contract, and after discussions aimed at keeping him in Buffalo,

870
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 3: the two parties decided to part ways. Martin gets released

871
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 3: now and can sign immediately elsewhere. Sam Martin a face

872
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 3: that's been on the roster for a.

873
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 2: Few seasons now in Buffalo.

874
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 3: He came to Buffalo from Denver in twenty twenty two

875
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 3: and during his time with the Bills played in fifty games,

876
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 3: So a position that the Bills are going to have

877
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 3: to replace. With Sam Martin being released today. According to

878
00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 3: Ian Rappaport, just moments ago.

879
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: That is, it's not really surprised. It saves him a

880
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: couple million million or two in cap space right away.

881
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 1: They'd had a punt. Let me just double check they

882
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: had had a punter on the practice squad, he might

883
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 1: not be there now, or at least didn't end the

884
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: season there. No, he's not on there, So yeah, they'll Yeah,

885
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 1: what it comes down to is not only can the

886
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 1: guy has to go the guy's to punt, but he

887
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: also has to hold to do a couple of other

888
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: things as well. So yeah, they'll hold try out. So

889
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 1: I have guys in training camp, it'll be a competition

890
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: for sure. They'll have more than one punter come training camp.

891
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 2: Oh, definitely.

892
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 3: During his fifty games with the Bills, he had one

893
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty punts averaged forty six point seven yards

894
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 3: per punt. Martin had some pretty important punts for Buffalo

895
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 3: toward the end of the season, downing bunch within ten

896
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 3: to fifteen yard line. Had some important punts throughout his

897
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 3: entire three years with Buffalo. So we'll see what the

898
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 3: Bills are going to do at that position. Do they

899
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 3: fill it through free agency? Do they fill it through

900
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 3: the draft. We've heard about defensive line, running backs, different

901
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 3: position groups. I don't know about the punters in this

902
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 3: draft class.

903
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: Tasker, No, you don't get that's a that's a deep dive.

904
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 2: Deep dive.

905
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: That's a deep dive. So but they they do, I

906
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: mean they'll they'll have a list of not only are

907
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: the veteran free agents that are going to be out

908
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 1: on the market, but also that you got the young

909
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 1: guys coming out getting them involved. Yeah, you got me

910
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 1: on that one. I don't know. I could not give

911
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 1: you a list. I mean I can go online here

912
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: and give you a we could.

913
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 2: We could rattle off some name so and so from

914
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:40,720
Speaker 2: this college.

915
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:42,359
Speaker 1: And I don't want to say and of course I'm

916
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 1: not going to sit here and say it that it's

917
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 1: guys unimportant. But you can get a guy who is

918
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: absolutely unknown to come in and do it a great job.

919
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: It's putting your foot on the ball and doing you know,

920
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: it's a it's a pretty specific skill set, and it

921
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: it learnable. I mean I learned it. I learned how

922
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 1: to hold for field goals and stuff like that. So

923
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: it's yeah, it's doable, and it's it never seems to

924
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: have a level of urgency like, oh my gosh, we

925
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: need a you know, cornerback one or something where you've

926
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 1: got to have some skills and some athleticism and stuff.

927
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 1: Punters come in all shapes and size.

928
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:23,959
Speaker 3: Right, definitely, And the Bills have a new special teams

929
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 3: coordinator in Chris Taber, so he's definitely gonna have an

930
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 3: opinion on who the Bills decide to bring in at

931
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 3: that position group or the few players that the Bills

932
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 3: will bring in at that position group to battle it

933
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 3: out throughout many camps here coming up in the next

934
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 3: few months.

935
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:41,439
Speaker 2: We're going to take a break.

936
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 3: When we return, Boston sports journal writer Mike Girardi is

937
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 3: going to join us, and later on the show we'll

938
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:49,919
Speaker 3: get back to the phone. So I see a bunch

939
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 3: of people on the phone lines, will continue the conversation

940
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 3: because it's been a great one here. But next up,

941
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 3: Mike Girardi Here on One Bill's Live. We're presented by

942
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 3: Clidah Health on Buffalo Bills Radio.

943
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:44,919
Speaker 4: It's One Bill's Live presented by called Lida Health.

944
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 2: Welcome into our number two of One Bill's Live.

945
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 3: On this snowy Thursday afternoon, snowy, windy, all the things

946
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 3: in March when all of us are just over winter

947
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 3: at this point, like give me spring, give me the sun,

948
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 3: give me the warm weather.

949
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 2: I'm ready for it. But you know what we're We're bringing.

950
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 3: You some things to to pay attention to as we

951
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 3: talk about free agency. So many things happening here as

952
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 3: the Bills have officially announced that they are releasing punter

953
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 3: Sam Martin, So we're starting to see some news surrounding

954
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,399
Speaker 3: the Buffalo Bills as they have less than a week

955
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 3: to become cap compliant, and do have to clear some

956
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:29,479
Speaker 3: space here, But to continue on with our conversation about

957
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 3: free agency, the AFC East, and the Bills, we're gonna

958
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 3: welcome Mike Girardi into the show, writer at Boston Sports

959
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 3: Journal and host of the All thirty two NFL podcast. Mike,

960
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 3: thanks for being on with us today.

961
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 7: Mattie Steve, good to see you. I'm wearing a shark

962
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 7: sleeve T shirt because it's fifty five degrees here. I'm

963
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 7: not trying to rub it in, but it's like the

964
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 7: moment you taste a little bit of spring, you're like

965
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 7: sharks shirts.

966
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go. That's right, fifty five degrees. You keep

967
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: your kids and your pets inside because of the heat, right,

968
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 1: I mean it just feels so good, Yeah, exactly. The

969
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 1: AC is on now. Hey, thanks for coming on with us.

970
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 1: Appreciated listen you know, let's start with the big stuff

971
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 1: that's going on. Early on, Miles Garrett decides he wants

972
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 1: to trade, makes it very public and has doubled down

973
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 1: on it. I mean, he's not looking for a new

974
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 1: deal from Cleveland all that. What are the like, I mean,

975
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 1: what do you how do you see this turning out?

976
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: And what's the time frame? Yeah?

977
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:23,839
Speaker 7: I mean I think the player has the hammer here,

978
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 7: even though you know he's contractually obligated to Cleveland, Like

979
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 7: he's too much of an asset at this point for

980
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 7: Cleveland to just sit on it.

981
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 1: You're not good.

982
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 7: You have an opportunity to kind of cast chips here

983
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 7: as you can, you know, as you really start to

984
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 7: begin your rebuild, because let's face it, what they tried

985
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 7: to do with the Shaun Watson has not worked at all,

986
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 7: and you know he's never going to play quarterback for

987
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 7: them again, but they're on the hook for so much,

988
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 7: so many millions of dollars with him. So to me,

989
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 7: if you want to kickstart the rebuild, this is how

990
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 7: you do it. And I think what they're trying to

991
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 7: do right now, Steve is like by saying we're not

992
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 7: taking the calls, they're just trying to set. To me,

993
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 7: they're setting a parameter like you can't even get in

994
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:02,839
Speaker 7: the door unless you start talking about two first round picks,

995
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 7: like let's get to that point. But to me, I

996
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 7: think that's something that will happen. I would assume before

997
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 7: the draft that would seem to be make the most

998
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 7: sense for them.

999
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:14,839
Speaker 3: We saw Buffalo have a pretty successful season last year,

1000
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 3: a team where many people were counting them out of

1001
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:22,320
Speaker 3: even winning the AFC East, and here they are contending

1002
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 3: for a chance to win an AFC championship and make

1003
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 3: it to the Super Bowl. Unfortunately that doesn't happen for

1004
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 3: the Bills. But looking at what the team did last season,

1005
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 3: in your eyes, what has to happen in free agency

1006
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 3: for the Bills to take a step forward in twenty

1007
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 3: twenty five, Well.

1008
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 7: Miles Garrett is what has to happen? I mean, or

1009
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 7: you want to happen? They need a closer. I mean,

1010
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 7: I think it's pretty obvious. And when they made the

1011
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 7: signing of von Miller, I know some people are like, oh,

1012
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 7: it's too much money for a player his age, but

1013
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 7: you saw for the first whatever it was seven eight

1014
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 7: games before he blew out his knee. What he was

1015
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 7: capable of and what the vision was there and why

1016
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 7: they wanted to do what they did, and obvious the

1017
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 7: injury thing has sort of changed everything. He's not the

1018
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 7: same player still. Yeah, I thought this year kind of

1019
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 7: came on, but not the same player. To me, Miles

1020
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 7: Garrett is the same sort of thing and swing that

1021
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 7: you have to take care Granted, unlike von Miller, it's

1022
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:13,800
Speaker 7: not free agency.

1023
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 1: You got to make a trade here.

1024
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:19,280
Speaker 7: But considering where the Bills pick and considering how Brandon

1025
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 7: Bean talk, you know, I'm never afraid. You know, I'm

1026
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 7: not afraid on the golf course. I'm not going to

1027
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 7: be afraid to do something. I think it's something they

1028
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 7: absolutely have to consider because is he the guy that

1029
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 7: can get you over the top. Well, based on his

1030
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 7: track record, I think he could be. So that's a

1031
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:34,399
Speaker 7: call I gotta make.

1032
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 1: And that's philosophically. We're asking our view our listeners and

1033
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 1: all our viewers to chime in, what's it going to

1034
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 1: take to satisfy your inner GM for this offseason? And

1035
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 1: we're getting some people are saying, Hey, the DK Metcalf thing,

1036
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 1: let's just go all in on offense. Do what we

1037
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 1: can with the defensive side. And just I mean, the

1038
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 1: Bills set a franchise record for points they scored over

1039
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 1: They scored more points through the regular season and postseason

1040
00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 1: any team in the league. Their their defense made it's living,

1041
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 1: not being very good, but churning out turnovers. And that

1042
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:05,879
Speaker 1: was all it took to get to the championship game,

1043
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 1: and it looked like for a minute they were going

1044
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 1: to go the distance. So there's some sentiment by some

1045
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,879
Speaker 1: Bills fans. They're like, listen, let's get another difference maker

1046
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 1: on offense and do what we can with the other

1047
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: side of the ball, maybe in the draft, get some

1048
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: guys or whatever, and just put it all on Josh

1049
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 1: and those guys and do that. What are your thoughts

1050
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 1: about that, particularly what they got, you know, they got

1051
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 1: a James Cook going on, They got you know that

1052
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:29,879
Speaker 1: kind of thing. Yeah.

1053
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 7: I think it's a very interesting conversation. And I'll just

1054
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 7: say when it comes to DK metcalf and this is

1055
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 7: probably a deeper conversation in terms of who's an actual

1056
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,359
Speaker 7: number one receiver. I don't think there are very many

1057
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 7: in the league, and I don't think he's one of them.

1058
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 7: You know, I think Jamar Chase I think justin Jefferson,

1059
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:48,879
Speaker 7: I think there's an Tyreek Hill at least a couple

1060
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 7: of years ago, was like, I think there's probably seven

1061
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 7: or eight guys that sort of that's what they are now. Granted,

1062
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:56,839
Speaker 7: DK Metcalf comes to Buffalo or New England or whatever,

1063
00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 7: and he immediately becomes their best receiver. Right so on

1064
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 7: your team, he's the number one, but he's he the

1065
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,399
Speaker 7: kind of guy that's worth paying, you know, not only

1066
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 7: I mean, we're hearing right now they want a first

1067
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 7: and a third. I have a feeling that could end

1068
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 7: up being a second and a fourth. But is that

1069
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 7: the kind of guy that you want to trade that

1070
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 7: kind of assets for and then turn around and give him.

1071
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 7: He's gonna want thirty million dollars a year, he's gonna

1072
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 7: want an extension. It's probably gonna, you know, be difficult

1073
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 7: if he doesn't get an extension in terms of making

1074
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 7: the trade, because he could just say, look, I'm not

1075
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 7: gonna sign with them, so you can trade me there

1076
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 7: and I'll go play for one year and twenty six

1077
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 7: million or whatever it is. But like they're not gonna

1078
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 7: sign me again, I'm gonna go to the market and

1079
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 7: then no, one's gonna want to give up that sort

1080
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 7: of thing, So he would make a difference for the Bills,

1081
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 7: no doubt. But I'm if I'm I don't know if

1082
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 7: that'd be high on my list. I kind of put

1083
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 7: that down the list, I think, Steve in terms of

1084
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 7: what I'd want to do if I was Brandon Bean.

1085
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 3: You mentioned Miles Garrett or a pass rusher. We're discussing

1086
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 3: Dk Metcalf as well. Where do the Bills fall on

1087
00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 3: your aggressive meter of how aggressive they need to be

1088
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 3: this off season to get over that hump that's existed

1089
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 3: for this team now for several seasons.

1090
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 7: Well, I mean, the wonderful thing about being the Buffalo

1091
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 7: Bills is you know the Josh Allen The windows always

1092
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 7: open with Josh as your quarterback, right, but you want

1093
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 7: to make sure you did this thing, and you sort

1094
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 7: of took the step back roster wise and let Josh

1095
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 7: do more. And again it went better, as you mentioned, Maddy,

1096
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 7: better than anyone, Steve, better than anyone thought it was

1097
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 7: going to, maybe not in the building but elsewhere, you know,

1098
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 7: nashally when they were looking at that team. But then

1099
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 7: you did see some of the deficiencies coming up and

1100
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 7: so I know they're still sort of straddling the money

1101
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 7: line a little bit, but like they can make stuff

1102
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 7: work if they want to make it work. And I

1103
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 7: think I would be taking that big swing. And again,

1104
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 7: I just keep calling back to the idea of having

1105
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 7: a guy on defense on third down, third and eight,

1106
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 7: who's gonna go get Patrick Mahomes Right now, you don't

1107
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 7: have that guy. Greg Russo is a nice player, he's

1108
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 7: not a closer. Miles Garrett becomes that guy. So if

1109
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 7: I'm Brandon, that's the way I'm thinking. I think, and

1110
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 7: I think he's shown you that he's willing to do that.

1111
00:57:58,320 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 7: He showed you he was willing to do with Von Miller.

1112
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 7: Why not do it again here?

1113
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 1: So now the Bills are sitting there, They've just had

1114
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 1: this juggernaut of an offensive season, the quarterbacks, the MVP,

1115
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 1: all that James Cook explodes, has all these touchdowns. Now

1116
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 1: he wants a new deal, and we were sitting here.

1117
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 1: I was sitting in this chair saying, you know, there's

1118
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 1: no way he's gonna get fifteen million a year because

1119
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 1: you know the top guys, you know, Derrick Henry's getting eight,

1120
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 1: Saquon's getting twelve, and then all of a sudden, Saquon's

1121
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 1: deal changes everything. Now, what's the market looked like for

1122
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 1: running backs? And what's your philosophy on how much you

1123
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 1: pay the guy?

1124
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I'd try to slot James in around

1125
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 7: ten million bucks at this point, and that's as we've

1126
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 7: kind of heard from his side, that's not what he

1127
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 7: wants to do. So, you know, that becomes a situation

1128
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 7: where do you hold the franchise tag over his head

1129
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 7: at some point, like, Hey, we're gonna go year to

1130
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 7: year with this thing, like we just can't do it again.

1131
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 7: Maybe we can talk, maybe we can find a better number,

1132
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 7: but right now we're not willing to put fifteen on

1133
00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 7: the table. I don't think you can do that just yet,

1134
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 7: you know, like for as good a player as yet.

1135
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 7: And trust me, I'm not trying to knock him. I

1136
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 7: love the player, I really do. I think he's dynamic.

1137
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 7: But show me it again, repeat it. Be on the

1138
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 7: field a little bit more for us, and then maybe

1139
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 7: you can have that long term conversation where again I

1140
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 7: don't think you're going to fifteen, but with the way

1141
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 7: the CAP's going up, maybe you can say, okay, we

1142
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 7: could do you know, two and twenty five or three

1143
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 7: and thirty eight and two of the you know, the

1144
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 7: first two years of guaranteed something of that sort of

1145
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 7: equation and work it out that way. But I just

1146
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 7: can't see them at this point still with the sort

1147
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 7: of the financial stuff going on with the team, that

1148
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 7: that's something that they should do right now, because I

1149
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 7: don't think they can get ahead of it. I think

1150
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 7: it's just gonna have to be like, you want this,

1151
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 7: We're only willing to pay that. So let's just play

1152
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 7: it out and see what happens.

1153
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 3: Well, let's look at the AFC East and the other

1154
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 3: teams within this division that are going to be making

1155
00:59:55,960 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 3: some moves soon to make their roster become more full,

1156
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 3: and the picture is going to be more clear here

1157
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 3: in a week or so. The Patriots, they have money

1158
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 3: to spend. Over one hundred and twenty million dollars in

1159
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 3: cap space is what they have right now. The Bills

1160
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 3: have to clear about nine million in cap space. I

1161
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 3: know Sam Martin helps with that number, but what are

1162
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 3: the Patriots capable of doing this offseason to help bolster

1163
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 3: that roster with the new head coach and Mike Rabel

1164
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 3: and a quarterback in Drake May, who had some positives

1165
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 3: last season.

1166
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, so it's very interesting. What do you do when

1167
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 7: you have one hundred and twenty seven million dollars in

1168
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 7: cap space, but there aren't enough players in free agency

1169
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 7: we're spending that money on. And that's kind of what

1170
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 7: we've seen now. I think for the last I don't know,

1171
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 7: five six seven years, with the way teams have gotten

1172
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 7: have improved with dealing with the cap. There's like one

1173
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 7: team every year, maybe two that's sort of quote unquote

1174
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 7: in cap jail. But generally it's like, no, you know

1175
01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 7: what you talk about the bills, Like with a restructure

1176
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 7: of Dion Dawkins and Josh Allen, they immediately are like

1177
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 7: twenty million under the cap, so like, and it's already

1178
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 7: sort of built into the contract. So like, that's how

1179
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 7: teams are working now and sort of have this vision

1180
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 7: for years ahead of time so that they don't get

1181
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 7: caught in a situation where, oh my god, we have

1182
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 7: to cut all our players. We can't do anything, you know,

1183
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:21,960
Speaker 7: we're just gonna stink. Like in general, most teams have

1184
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 7: such a good grasp on this that now the best

1185
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 7: players don't get the free agency I mean, you see

1186
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 7: Zach Bond, who you probably got more than I thought

1187
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 7: he was gonna get from Philadelphia.

1188
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:31,439
Speaker 1: But like he was a guy.

1189
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 7: If he got the free agency, I don't know, there

1190
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 7: might be three or four teams bidding on him and

1191
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 7: he had a chance to maybe get another year on

1192
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 7: the contract or maybe a few more million guaranteed. And

1193
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 7: he's like, you know what, good situation. They like me,

1194
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 7: We just won a super Bowl. I'll stay you know.

1195
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 7: And I just feel like that happens over and over again.

1196
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 7: And you saw a wave of signings across the league

1197
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 7: over the last ten to twelve days where it's sort

1198
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 7: of been that way where it's like, we looked at

1199
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 7: this market and he's better than anybody we have where

1200
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 7: he's close and we know who he is, and we

1201
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 7: know where he fits with our team, so let's just

1202
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 7: pay him so he doesn't get there. So I think

1203
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 7: that's the kind of spot that the Patriots find themselves

1204
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 7: in now as well. Yeah we have this money, but

1205
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 7: who are the high end free agents? You know, Milton Williams,

1206
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 7: Josh Sweat, Josh Wett has the knee issue that you know,

1207
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 7: maybe that doesn't that's not a place they're willing to go,

1208
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 7: but you sort of run out of names, and then

1209
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 7: on top of that, you're foreign thirteen last year, you're

1210
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 7: four and thirteen the year before. I think even with

1211
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 7: the change and coach to Mike Vrabel, who obviously has

1212
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 7: a much stronger presence and respect league wide than the

1213
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 7: staff had last year led by you know, Drod Mail

1214
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 7: in his first year, that you're still not there yet.

1215
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 7: I think a lot of guys will look at the

1216
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:42,920
Speaker 7: roster and say, not a good roster, Like do I

1217
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 7: want to go there? And like maybe in year two

1218
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 7: we start to become a playoff team, but right now,

1219
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 7: how do you foresee making that big jump? So it's

1220
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 7: a it's a great spot to have the money, I

1221
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 7: just don't know that there's enough players out there to

1222
01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 7: spend the money on.

1223
01:02:57,600 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's really going to be the key. It

1224
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 1: comes down everything. It comes down to picking the right guys,

1225
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 1: and certainly there's there should be some elevated expectation for

1226
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 1: how this team looks over too back to back for

1227
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:11,959
Speaker 1: you know, four and twelve years or four and thirteen years,

1228
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 1: there should be some elevated expectations in a new England however, right,

1229
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 1: oh yeah, no question.

1230
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 7: I mean, look, as I sit here and say this,

1231
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 7: I think there is a much more positive vibe about

1232
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:25,920
Speaker 7: what's going on and a belief that, hey, we have

1233
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 7: a coach that has had success before versus you know, again,

1234
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 7: the Hodgepodge staff that they put together last year, the

1235
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 7: inexperienced guys didn't know each other. This is, hey, Mike

1236
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 7: knows Josh, Mike knows Terrell Williams the defensive coordinator, Like

1237
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 7: there are pieces together, a lot of former Titans guys

1238
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 7: are on the staff that they have far more cohesion

1239
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 7: to start this process than they did at any point

1240
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:50,880
Speaker 7: last year. And I think you talk to people around

1241
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 7: the league and they're watching because there's a lot of

1242
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 7: respect for Mike and there's respect for Josh as an

1243
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 7: offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels obviously not so much as a

1244
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 7: head coach. And then the May factor, right, like, people

1245
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 7: saw enough from Drake May last year to feel like

1246
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 7: he's tracking in a franchise quarterback direction, So okay, but

1247
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 7: now again, sort of show me that it is going

1248
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 7: in the right direction. Show me that there are more

1249
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 7: better players on that team, younger players that didn't really

1250
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 7: make a mark last year. From the draft class that

1251
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 7: can impact the team, and then I think they become

1252
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 7: next year. You know, if a seven or eight win

1253
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 7: season happens and Drake continues to track the right direction,

1254
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 7: then they become a much more you know, a much

1255
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 7: more feasible option, I think for the better players in

1256
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 7: the league. Because right now you hear like DK wants

1257
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:40,920
Speaker 7: to go to a to a contending team, DeVante Adams

1258
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:43,600
Speaker 7: wants to go to a contending team. Like that's everybody

1259
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 7: wants to go to a contending team and you're not

1260
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 7: that yet.

1261
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers also wants to go to a contending team.

1262
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 3: Speaking of his former team and the Jets, the Jets

1263
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 3: have a new head coach and Aaron Glenn and a

1264
01:04:56,120 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 3: quarterbacked position. Questions surrounding that position as to who's gonna

1265
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 3: play that position. Is it going to be Tyrod Taylor,

1266
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 3: is it going to be somebody else? As you look

1267
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 3: at the Jets and what they have to do this offseason,

1268
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 3: what are some of their free agency needs?

1269
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 7: I mean, certainly they got to answer the quarterback question.

1270
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 7: Then it feels like if Justin Fields actually gets to

1271
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:18,880
Speaker 7: free agency, and you know, Pittsburgh has made some noise

1272
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 7: about wanting to keep him, then that's probably their best option.

1273
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 7: And that's not to say that he's still young enough

1274
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 7: where you can sort of project maybe some improvement here.

1275
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:32,960
Speaker 7: And he's been a guy that at least his teammates

1276
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:34,240
Speaker 7: really like and rally around.

1277
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 1: It.

1278
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 7: Just he hasn't developed quite as a passer like you

1279
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 7: would have expected, you know, coming out as I think

1280
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:42,840
Speaker 7: the eighth overall pick from Ohio State. But beyond that,

1281
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 7: if they with on Justin Fields or he doesn't get

1282
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:48,040
Speaker 7: to the market, it's a pretty bleak situation out there.

1283
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 7: There's far more teams that are needing a quarterback than

1284
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 7: are actually out there. Obviously Stam Darnold would be someone

1285
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:58,360
Speaker 7: had he not been in New York, maybe would be

1286
01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:00,439
Speaker 7: someone that they would consider. But I don't think Sam

1287
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:02,439
Speaker 7: wants anything to do with going back to the Jets.

1288
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 7: He's lived at done that. I don't think that would

1289
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 7: appease the fan base either. It seemed like that would

1290
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 7: be a terrible marriage. And then where do you start

1291
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Speaker 7: to go. You know, Daniel Jones, who of course didn't

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Speaker 7: get it done with the Giants. It just there isn't

1293
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:16,600
Speaker 7: a lot out there, and then you know where they're

1294
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Speaker 7: picking at seven. Could they work their way up to

1295
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:20,960
Speaker 7: the draft and you know, I don't know if they

1296
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:22,440
Speaker 7: can get to one or would want to pay the

1297
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 7: price to get to one to get cam Ward, who

1298
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 7: clearly has separated himself as the as the quarterback.

1299
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Speaker 1: In that tier.

1300
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:31,439
Speaker 7: Do they like Shador Sanders or do they like someone

1301
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:32,440
Speaker 7: like Jackson Darting.

1302
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 1: Is that someone that you trade up for?

1303
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 7: Is that someone that you can go backwards and maybe get.

1304
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 7: I think that's something they're going to.

1305
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:37,960
Speaker 1: Have to figure out.

1306
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 7: But it's not an enviable position to be in trying

1307
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 7: to find that quarterback or at least a stop gap

1308
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 7: situation in this current crop of players. But their defense

1309
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 7: is good and it should be better. You know, I

1310
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:51,440
Speaker 7: think Aaron Glenn will have a clear vision, and I

1311
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:54,560
Speaker 7: think that's an area where, especially in the draft, because

1312
01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 7: it's so good in the defensive side of the ball,

1313
01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:58,960
Speaker 7: defensive line in particular, that they could sort of get

1314
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 7: back to where they were a couple of seasons ago

1315
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 7: defensively and then it's okay, just give me competent quarterback

1316
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 7: play and maybe they're back in the mix as being

1317
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:09,920
Speaker 7: you know, not not contending for the division crown, but

1318
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Speaker 7: maybe contending for a playoff spot.

1319
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's and you're right, the Jets have some

1320
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:16,960
Speaker 1: question marks that you don't know if they're gonna be

1321
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:18,960
Speaker 1: able to answer him in this in this offseason. It

1322
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:23,280
Speaker 1: may take two. And yeah, you know, certainly Aaron, Aaron

1323
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:25,280
Speaker 1: Glenn's gonna have at least a two I would think

1324
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 1: a two year leash to make some moves and to

1325
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:30,600
Speaker 1: get the guy up. And you go down further south

1326
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 1: into Miami. They paid to a few years ago. They're

1327
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 1: married to him. Mike McDaniel seems to be a guy

1328
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 1: who has that locker room. But it's a it's a franchise.

1329
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 1: I don't they look soft. They don't play with any grit.

1330
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:49,000
Speaker 1: They got guys that that because they got coached hard

1331
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 1: two years ago by Vic Fangio. They got him fired

1332
01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 1: because they didn't want to practice hard, play hard, do

1333
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:56,600
Speaker 1: all the things he asks. And he goes to Philly

1334
01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:59,440
Speaker 1: and they win a championship. It doesn't look good down there,

1335
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 1: saying thing I wanted to get a train was and

1336
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:05,160
Speaker 1: I get emotionally at right after the season they got

1337
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 1: put out of it. It's hard to not to one out.

1338
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:12,120
Speaker 1: But you know, Miami is a different animal because it

1339
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 1: doesn't seem like players or talent was the issue.

1340
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:17,080
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1341
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 7: So, I it's funny because you know, Mike McDaniel was

1342
01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:22,240
Speaker 7: the was sort of all the rage for about a

1343
01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 7: year and a half, two years right and now after

1344
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:27,320
Speaker 7: the way last season ended, there were some questions about

1345
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:28,840
Speaker 7: where they're even going to bring him back, and he

1346
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:31,760
Speaker 7: had just signed I think an extension right before the

1347
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 7: season started. But like that was a real conversation down

1348
01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:36,479
Speaker 7: in Miami for a couple of weeks. I would think,

1349
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:38,880
Speaker 7: I'm glad you brought up the Tyreek Hill situation because

1350
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:42,680
Speaker 7: to me, I think if they're smart down there, they

1351
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 7: move on. And look, it was it was a right

1352
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:48,520
Speaker 7: move to make at the time, and he really impacted

1353
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:51,960
Speaker 7: them and had two terrific seasons. But last year there

1354
01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:55,760
Speaker 7: was some complaining during the season and some pouting during

1355
01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 7: the season. Then they basically feel like he quit on

1356
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:01,200
Speaker 7: them in the last game. So you can talk about

1357
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 7: the sort of oh saying I want out after the

1358
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:05,640
Speaker 7: season's over because of the emotion. Yeah, I get it,

1359
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:07,840
Speaker 7: but it was there was emotion during the game where

1360
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 7: he basically shut it down and he and he could

1361
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:10,920
Speaker 7: have continued to play.

1362
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Speaker 1: So to me, that's it. I'm done.

1363
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:15,320
Speaker 7: You know, we're paying Jalen Waddle, and no, he's not

1364
01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:17,240
Speaker 7: as good as Tyreek Hill, but he's a lot younger

1365
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 7: and Tyreek, you know, with the with some of the

1366
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 7: muscle stuff. You know, you start to wonder, is he

1367
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 7: can he be the four to two guy you know

1368
01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:26,080
Speaker 7: consistently anymore. And so to me, I'm just saying, if

1369
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Speaker 7: I get a second round pick for him, because again

1370
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:30,599
Speaker 7: someone's gonna get left out in the h we need

1371
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:33,800
Speaker 7: a wide receiver, we need a wide receiver one. That's

1372
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:35,880
Speaker 7: what I'm doing. I'm moving on from him because I

1373
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:38,920
Speaker 7: think he's now become part of the problem and start

1374
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 7: to remake that team a little bit in uh as

1375
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 7: you said, a little bit of a tougher image they need,

1376
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:46,439
Speaker 7: I think, you know, to build that team up again,

1377
01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:48,800
Speaker 7: because you are gonna have to go into Buffalo at

1378
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:50,400
Speaker 7: some point. You are gonna have to go if New

1379
01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:52,760
Speaker 7: York gets to go in the right direction. If you

1380
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:54,960
Speaker 7: know Patriots Drake May and Mike Rabel, you're gonna have

1381
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:56,600
Speaker 7: to go win some games up north, and they just

1382
01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 7: can't seem to do it.

1383
01:09:57,800 --> 01:09:58,799
Speaker 1: And heaven for a long.

1384
01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:02,120
Speaker 3: Time after d came out, Metcalf requested a trade and

1385
01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:05,679
Speaker 3: it was granted. Hill took to social media and said,

1386
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:10,320
Speaker 3: everyone's trying to get out, so always speaking, always has

1387
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:12,720
Speaker 3: something to say. It'll be interesting to see what that

1388
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:16,600
Speaker 3: what happens there with Miami and Tyreek Hill. And you

1389
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:20,559
Speaker 3: rarely see a team that's paying two wide receivers near

1390
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 3: thirty million dollars a year. It's hard to make that

1391
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:27,320
Speaker 3: happen when you're also paying a quarterback and some other

1392
01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:29,840
Speaker 3: players as well. But as we sit here and talk

1393
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:33,440
Speaker 3: about the AFC East at large and needs this offseason

1394
01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 3: for each team, where do things shake out for you

1395
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:41,000
Speaker 3: right now? As to rankings in the AFC East? In

1396
01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:45,000
Speaker 3: your mind, does it look like Buffalo has has a

1397
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:49,719
Speaker 3: clear pathway to crowning themselves AFC East champions once again.

1398
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:52,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, it feels like they have a strangle hold on

1399
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:55,000
Speaker 7: it because we saw last year again sort of taking

1400
01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:58,599
Speaker 7: a step back in many cases in terms of moving

1401
01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:01,160
Speaker 7: on from key players and putting up the season that

1402
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:04,680
Speaker 7: they did. So to me, they are the They are

1403
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:07,800
Speaker 7: the unquestioned top dog in the AFC East until somebody

1404
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:10,679
Speaker 7: proves otherwise. I think the Patriots do have a chance,

1405
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:12,840
Speaker 7: depending on what happens here with free agency and what

1406
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:14,600
Speaker 7: they do with the number four overall pick on the

1407
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:19,440
Speaker 7: draft of moving back into at least a position of respectability,

1408
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:21,519
Speaker 7: and the Jets, to me, is one of those things

1409
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:23,280
Speaker 7: where again, like I said, if you can, if you

1410
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:26,280
Speaker 7: can solidify the quarterback position, doesn't even have to be

1411
01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:29,080
Speaker 7: a star, but get competent quarterback play and get the

1412
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 7: defense back to where it was just two years ago,

1413
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:33,880
Speaker 7: then I don't see why they can't be a team

1414
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:35,639
Speaker 7: that actually contends for a playoff spot.

1415
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:37,160
Speaker 1: And I'm I'm.

1416
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:38,840
Speaker 7: Currently out on Miami. I don't know if you can tell.

1417
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 7: I just I don't like the way that's trending, and

1418
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:43,800
Speaker 7: I'm not sure that they're willing to do what it

1419
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 7: takes to sort of turn it over to the point

1420
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:49,200
Speaker 7: where they can become that team that can come up

1421
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:53,519
Speaker 7: north in November, December, and January and win a game

1422
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 7: that matters.

1423
01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:56,040
Speaker 1: One last before we go to break. Mike, let me

1424
01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:58,640
Speaker 1: just ask you that you know the deadlines we were

1425
01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:00,680
Speaker 1: talking about, deadlines make a lot for a lot of

1426
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:04,280
Speaker 1: action coming up on this deadline. Is there any cap

1427
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 1: casualties you think that may be a surprise around the league,

1428
01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:08,519
Speaker 1: I don't know if you have a pulse on all

1429
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 1: thirty two. It's hard to keep track of. But we've

1430
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:15,920
Speaker 1: already seen teams, you know, jettison, veteran players, guys getting released.

1431
01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 1: Anybody that you think is going to be a surprise

1432
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:20,880
Speaker 1: or has been a surprise, No, I.

1433
01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:22,760
Speaker 7: Think see this is to the point of, like, I

1434
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:24,479
Speaker 7: think teams have done such a good job with this

1435
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:27,880
Speaker 7: now that that you don't get as many as we

1436
01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:29,639
Speaker 7: used to or you're accustomed to, or you're like kind

1437
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:30,920
Speaker 7: of waiting for, like who's going to be that, or

1438
01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:32,840
Speaker 7: who's gonna be the post June one. A lot of

1439
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:35,680
Speaker 7: these guys that you like, we thought Joey Bosa was

1440
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:37,519
Speaker 7: going to get cut, Joey Bosa got cut. We thought

1441
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:38,960
Speaker 7: Javon and Hargraves is going to get cut.

1442
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:39,680
Speaker 1: He gets cut.

1443
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:42,519
Speaker 7: So I think no one has really surprised me. The

1444
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:45,000
Speaker 7: one name I would keep an eye on is in Cincinnati,

1445
01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:48,160
Speaker 7: and that's Trey Hendrickson, right, because they clear and Joe

1446
01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 7: Burrow has pushed them. Jamar and t Higgins are one

1447
01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:54,160
Speaker 7: and two on their list, and Trey is three, and

1448
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:57,200
Speaker 7: I know they've talked about keeping all three. I think

1449
01:12:57,280 --> 01:12:59,879
Speaker 7: the idea of paying thirty one year old Trey Hendrickson

1450
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:02,200
Speaker 7: twenty five or thirty million a year, which is what

1451
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:06,519
Speaker 7: he wants, even though he was awesome last year, doesn't

1452
01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:08,360
Speaker 7: make a lot of sense, especially if you're trying to

1453
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:12,200
Speaker 7: play Kate Joe and make sure that Higgins and Chase

1454
01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 7: stay and stay long term. So to me, that might

1455
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:16,559
Speaker 7: be a name that could come up in the next

1456
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:20,200
Speaker 7: couple of days or start you start hearing in trade conversations,

1457
01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:22,439
Speaker 7: because he does still have a year left on his contract.

1458
01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:23,920
Speaker 7: That could be one that pops up.

1459
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 3: All right, want to keep an eye on Mike Girardi,

1460
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:29,680
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for joining the show. That was

1461
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:32,439
Speaker 3: Mike Dijority from Boston Sports Journal, also the host of

1462
01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 3: the All thirty two NFL podcast. A great discussion about

1463
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:39,280
Speaker 3: the AFC East. And you know, it's good to think

1464
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:42,800
Speaker 3: about these other teams too that affect the AFC East.

1465
01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 2: What's happening. Who is in a position to contend with

1466
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:47,799
Speaker 2: the Bills this upcoming season.

1467
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:51,840
Speaker 3: It was amazing last year to hear people talk about

1468
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:54,600
Speaker 3: the fact that Buffalo had no chance at winning the

1469
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:57,200
Speaker 3: AFC East. And you look at the division this year

1470
01:13:57,479 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 3: and it looks very different. I agree with with Mike

1471
01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:03,040
Speaker 3: about the Patriots. My eyes are on the Patriots for

1472
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:04,559
Speaker 3: a team that could surprise a lot.

1473
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 2: Of people this season.

1474
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:10,200
Speaker 3: Maybe not contending for the AFC East title, but but

1475
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:11,559
Speaker 3: maybe a team who can.

1476
01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:13,800
Speaker 2: Who can turn some heads.

1477
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:16,240
Speaker 3: I mean, you've got a new head coach and Mike Rabel,

1478
01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 3: who has a lot of respect. You've got Drake may

1479
01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:22,200
Speaker 3: who who showed up I can do this. And they've

1480
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:25,800
Speaker 3: got a great position in the draft to select somebody

1481
01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 3: who's going to be meaningful for them this season. And

1482
01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:30,160
Speaker 3: you got a lot of money to spend in free

1483
01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:30,720
Speaker 3: agency too.

1484
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 1: Right. We were talking to Mike, you're already just before

1485
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:36,320
Speaker 1: we came on the air, and I said it's my

1486
01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:38,880
Speaker 1: view because I've seen the Bills do it and others

1487
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:41,800
Speaker 1: do it. You can get pretty good, really fast in

1488
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:44,000
Speaker 1: the free agent market. They've got a ton of money

1489
01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:46,960
Speaker 1: to spend. They got they're gonna have the asset, they

1490
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:48,519
Speaker 1: got a draft picks, they got all this, you know,

1491
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 1: high draft picks, the whole thing. So the Patriots, if

1492
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:56,080
Speaker 1: it's if you spend it positive in every respect for them,

1493
01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:58,120
Speaker 1: you know, Rabel's gonna get it together. They're gonna have

1494
01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:00,519
Speaker 1: a good offense there. Drake May's going to come back

1495
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:02,760
Speaker 1: and continue to build. They get all these draft picks

1496
01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:06,360
Speaker 1: and free agent money. If they picked the right guys

1497
01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 1: in free agency, the Patriots could get really good, really fast,

1498
01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 1: really fast. And I think he's right. I think they're

1499
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:17,200
Speaker 1: the team when you look at it right now, until

1500
01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:21,920
Speaker 1: something changes in New York, the Patriots are the team

1501
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:23,400
Speaker 1: where the Bills have got to look over their shoulder

1502
01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:24,800
Speaker 1: and say, those are the guys that are gaining on

1503
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:28,760
Speaker 1: us the fastest. Certainly the Bills after what happened this year.

1504
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:30,559
Speaker 1: The Bills are sitting in the driver's seating. He's right.

1505
01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:32,720
Speaker 1: I mean the Bills do kind of have a stranglehold

1506
01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:36,040
Speaker 1: on it at least now, or we know how inaccurate

1507
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:38,120
Speaker 1: it is to make that production in March. We saw

1508
01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:41,160
Speaker 1: everybody do it last year. But you know you're sitting

1509
01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:43,360
Speaker 1: here looking at it until something changes in New York.

1510
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:45,639
Speaker 1: Patriots are are the team that I'm keeping my eye

1511
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:49,880
Speaker 1: on this offseason. Yeah, we've seen it. Sean McDermott did

1512
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:52,200
Speaker 1: it here in Buffalo after seventeen years and no playoffs.

1513
01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:55,800
Speaker 1: He came in with a with a bad drought roster,

1514
01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:58,200
Speaker 1: a bad drought roster and they get to the playoffs

1515
01:15:58,240 --> 01:16:02,479
Speaker 1: with Tyrod Taylor at quarterback, so it can be done. Well,

1516
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:04,439
Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll see what happens.

1517
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 3: And you know, Miami they have players on their roster,

1518
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:10,840
Speaker 3: but I don't know. It's it's weird, weird vibes.

1519
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:12,160
Speaker 1: Yes, it is all right.

1520
01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:14,200
Speaker 3: We're gonna take a break, but when we return, we're

1521
01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:16,280
Speaker 3: going back to the phone lines. I see you guys

1522
01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:19,760
Speaker 3: hanging on. You're gonna chime into the conversation. Next, on

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01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:22,840
Speaker 3: One Bill's Live, we're presented by Clyde helping Buffalo Bills Radio.

1524
01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:38,280
Speaker 2: What's up?

1525
01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:40,639
Speaker 3: We're back here on One Bill's Live, Matti Glavin, Steve

1526
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 3: Tasker spot track just came out with how much money

1527
01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:48,000
Speaker 3: the Bills are gonna save from releasing punter Sam Martin,

1528
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:51,920
Speaker 3: saying it'll free up two million dollars of cap space.

1529
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:55,719
Speaker 3: That makes the Bills currently eight and a half under,

1530
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 3: so still some room to grow to move things around

1531
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:04,080
Speaker 3: to become cap compliant. On March twelfth, also saying Martin

1532
01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:08,160
Speaker 3: earned five point six million dollars in three seasons with Buffalo.

1533
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:11,639
Speaker 3: All right, so we have a question for you today.

1534
01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 3: We want you to put on your GM caps. What

1535
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:17,639
Speaker 3: will it take for the bill to satisfy your inner

1536
01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:20,640
Speaker 3: GM this offseason? Tweet at us or give us a

1537
01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:22,920
Speaker 3: call at eight oh three, five point fifty. Going back

1538
01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:25,800
Speaker 3: to the phones to Jim in Cheekawaga, Jim, how you

1539
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:27,720
Speaker 3: doing good?

1540
01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:29,400
Speaker 4: First of all, I want to thank you for taking

1541
01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:29,760
Speaker 4: my call.

1542
01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:31,760
Speaker 2: Of course, thanks for calling in.

1543
01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:35,120
Speaker 4: Oh, no problem. I've been on here for an hour waiting.

1544
01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:41,040
Speaker 4: I have a strong belief that last year's offense was

1545
01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:45,040
Speaker 4: able to put up you know, thirty some points a

1546
01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:50,479
Speaker 4: game with no names, you know, unproven pay up players.

1547
01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:52,640
Speaker 4: I mean, you had to my recouper, but he was

1548
01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:55,640
Speaker 4: a dead significant You got him Mike the season, and

1549
01:17:56,040 --> 01:18:00,920
Speaker 4: I think the missing piece to this team going over

1550
01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:05,200
Speaker 4: the hump would be a Miles Garrett. And I wish

1551
01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:07,680
Speaker 4: that we would take care of our defense. You know,

1552
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:13,040
Speaker 4: all the old saying is defense wins championships. Our offense

1553
01:18:13,160 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 4: is not a problem. As long as you got Josh

1554
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:19,639
Speaker 4: back there, we're going to score. You know, I don't

1555
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:25,000
Speaker 4: see paying thirty million dollars for Metcalf. You know, you

1556
01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:27,120
Speaker 4: have all these other receivers that are out there, but

1557
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:31,000
Speaker 4: they're overpriced. You know, Devonte Adams and I don't know

1558
01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:33,200
Speaker 4: what's going on with t Higgins. We don't know if

1559
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:36,080
Speaker 4: they're going to sign him or not. But to spend

1560
01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:42,480
Speaker 4: that money to add a piece for a already functioning,

1561
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:48,479
Speaker 4: really mechanical offense, I just don't see reaching out that

1562
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:52,800
Speaker 4: way because we've been at gray Davis. If we can't

1563
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:57,479
Speaker 4: connect with Cook income to an agreement, Gray Davis was

1564
01:18:57,560 --> 01:19:00,519
Speaker 4: fantastic last year, even though he was limited in you know,

1565
01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:04,439
Speaker 4: playing time, but when he was on the field, he

1566
01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:07,719
Speaker 4: did great for us. So that one piece we're missing,

1567
01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:10,679
Speaker 4: which Von Miller was supposed to take care of before

1568
01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:13,920
Speaker 4: he got hurt. That's the one piece that we need

1569
01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:18,600
Speaker 4: to keep these quarterbacks that are mobile contained. And you know,

1570
01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:21,880
Speaker 4: whoever we can pick up our free agency or through

1571
01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:24,920
Speaker 4: the draft would be great. I'm opening Cole Bishop steps

1572
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:27,599
Speaker 4: up this year, you know, maybe takes a step forward,

1573
01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:32,400
Speaker 4: but yeah, my main concern is getting the defense to

1574
01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:35,080
Speaker 4: be more efficient, and you're keeping the other team off

1575
01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:37,920
Speaker 4: the field, which enables us to go and score forty

1576
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:41,320
Speaker 4: points a game. Yeah, so I'll take your call your

1577
01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:44,000
Speaker 4: comments after this. Thank you very much.

1578
01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:46,799
Speaker 3: All right, thanks for calling injin great point about defense,

1579
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:49,720
Speaker 3: and he mentions Von Miller and how that started. And

1580
01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 3: the Bills were after a pass rusher to be a

1581
01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:56,040
Speaker 3: closer in those big games, and they got it out

1582
01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:58,719
Speaker 3: of Miller. In that first season he had eight sacks

1583
01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:02,560
Speaker 3: and you're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's gonna be

1584
01:20:02,680 --> 01:20:03,080
Speaker 3: the best.

1585
01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:04,200
Speaker 2: It's gonna work out.

1586
01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:07,920
Speaker 1: And that's and all the way up. They played the Chiefs,

1587
01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 1: I don't know, it was Week five or something in

1588
01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:11,559
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three or something, and they go into Kansas

1589
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:13,920
Speaker 1: City and beat the Chiefs and Vaughan closes the game.

1590
01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:16,880
Speaker 1: The game, he puts the pressure on Holmes to throw

1591
01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:19,760
Speaker 1: the interception and that the game's over. That you know,

1592
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:20,960
Speaker 1: it was all working out.

1593
01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:23,280
Speaker 2: Just Brandon be master.

1594
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:26,960
Speaker 1: It was all exactly So I get that that, you know,

1595
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:30,840
Speaker 1: this mild Garrett thing could be like that, and it

1596
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:34,080
Speaker 1: could be. I am on board with you that the

1597
01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:39,800
Speaker 1: offense doesn't need too much attention. They Curtis Samuel should

1598
01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:41,800
Speaker 1: come back and be healthy when he starts this year.

1599
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:43,479
Speaker 1: If they you know, because he started the season he

1600
01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:46,240
Speaker 1: was hurt on and off the field. He couldn't practice

1601
01:20:46,360 --> 01:20:49,840
Speaker 1: the whole thing. Kincaid got hurt, couldn't practice the whole thing.

1602
01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:52,680
Speaker 1: Kem Coleman got hurt, couldn't practice, couldn't play the whole thing.

1603
01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:56,160
Speaker 1: They trade for Amari Cooper. He had a wrist. Then

1604
01:20:56,200 --> 01:20:58,000
Speaker 1: he came on, but he didn't really get that much

1605
01:20:58,280 --> 01:21:03,000
Speaker 1: of an opportunity. And here's the thing too, that the opportunity.

1606
01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:05,720
Speaker 1: The reason that offense worked so well last year is

1607
01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:12,280
Speaker 1: because nobody was commanding or demanding the ball all the time.

1608
01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:14,920
Speaker 1: They could throw it to whoever was open, and Josh

1609
01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:17,160
Speaker 1: was really good at it. He was good at it.

1610
01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:20,920
Speaker 1: They spread the football around. One week, Shaki would have

1611
01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:24,640
Speaker 1: nine targets, the next week he'd have three, and it

1612
01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:29,240
Speaker 1: went that way for every player. Teams made decisions defensively

1613
01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:32,000
Speaker 1: to take certain guys away, and everybody else crushed them.

1614
01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:34,760
Speaker 1: These guys that we didn't. The mc collins crushed them,

1615
01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:39,679
Speaker 1: Ray Davis crushed them. Ty Johnson crushed the Detroit Lions.

1616
01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:43,519
Speaker 1: So you know, that's the reason that offense worked. So

1617
01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:46,840
Speaker 1: I'm okay because they got buy in from those guys.

1618
01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:49,360
Speaker 1: Nobody was complaining about it. They were winning, scoring thirty

1619
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:53,479
Speaker 1: know what's to complain about. Defensively, however, the only thing

1620
01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:56,880
Speaker 1: that kept them afloat was their ability to get turnovers

1621
01:21:57,320 --> 01:22:00,360
Speaker 1: and we talk about all the time. You can't that.

1622
01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:03,200
Speaker 1: Certainly you can preach it and practice it, but it

1623
01:22:03,320 --> 01:22:05,960
Speaker 1: may not happen. Yeah, because so much of it depends

1624
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:11,639
Speaker 1: on the other team. So if you're gonna change things

1625
01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:13,920
Speaker 1: and try and improve this team, the easiest and most

1626
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:16,320
Speaker 1: efficient way to do it is throw some playmakers on

1627
01:22:16,360 --> 01:22:19,439
Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball. Because then if they

1628
01:22:19,479 --> 01:22:21,640
Speaker 1: score thirty points that they don't win by four they

1629
01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:25,479
Speaker 1: win by fourteen because the defense gets a stop on

1630
01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:28,840
Speaker 1: third down that they couldn't get last year. They get

1631
01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:31,479
Speaker 1: a turnover at a spot on the field where the

1632
01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:34,240
Speaker 1: offense is already in field goal range. They get a

1633
01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:36,760
Speaker 1: stop on a third and nine instead of giving up

1634
01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:42,080
Speaker 1: another conversion. They get a stop on fourth down. You know,

1635
01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:44,240
Speaker 1: they get to stop in the red zone because they

1636
01:22:44,360 --> 01:22:46,960
Speaker 1: got better players, Guys who are difference makers, Guys who're

1637
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:49,320
Speaker 1: blowing the play up. They had none of that this year.

1638
01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:53,200
Speaker 1: You know, they got turnover, sure, but one or two

1639
01:22:53,240 --> 01:22:55,680
Speaker 1: of those a game, and with the offense playing the

1640
01:22:55,720 --> 01:22:58,760
Speaker 1: way it was, that was enough. But even then the

1641
01:22:58,840 --> 01:23:00,880
Speaker 1: defense was kind of dependent on the offense to score.

1642
01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:05,160
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm with you. Yes, a guy like Trey

1643
01:23:05,240 --> 01:23:08,960
Speaker 1: Hendrickson from Cincinnati or Miles Garrett, you know, and there's

1644
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:11,400
Speaker 1: guys out there. We've talked about it, Khalil Max out there.

1645
01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:13,200
Speaker 1: There's some guys out there that are kind of in

1646
01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:16,400
Speaker 1: devant finger quotes Von Miller mode, or they're in their

1647
01:23:16,439 --> 01:23:20,439
Speaker 1: mid thirties, kind of available, have been a fantastic player.

1648
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:24,000
Speaker 1: But do they have anything left in the tank? And

1649
01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:26,280
Speaker 1: even if they do, will they be durable enough to

1650
01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:27,519
Speaker 1: make it through an entire season?

1651
01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:29,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the that's question people.

1652
01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:31,880
Speaker 1: You shy away from it for that, But there's gonna

1653
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:33,600
Speaker 1: be some guys out there that the Bills are going

1654
01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:36,160
Speaker 1: to talk to and have a chance at signing. So

1655
01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:40,920
Speaker 1: I'm with you, I'm I'm really until it changes in

1656
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:44,360
Speaker 1: this free agency period. I am laser focused on what's

1657
01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:46,240
Speaker 1: going on on the defensive side of the ball. Like

1658
01:23:46,360 --> 01:23:47,240
Speaker 1: Jim is, it seems to be.

1659
01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:48,639
Speaker 2: Let's go to the tweets.

1660
01:23:48,640 --> 01:23:50,799
Speaker 3: Sheet is brought to you by the Corgan Moving Systems,

1661
01:23:50,840 --> 01:23:54,000
Speaker 3: the official equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills.

1662
01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:55,000
Speaker 2: What will it take for the.

1663
01:23:55,000 --> 01:24:00,320
Speaker 3: Bills to satisfy your inner GM this offseason? From Jacob saying,

1664
01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:04,040
Speaker 3: don't break the bank for anyone extend Benford and Rousseau.

1665
01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:08,320
Speaker 3: Get a decent defensive tackle, defensive end, cornerback, wide receiver.

1666
01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:12,200
Speaker 3: Be willing to draft replacements for Cook, Bernard and rap

1667
01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:14,799
Speaker 3: get younger and cheaper where you can.

1668
01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:17,600
Speaker 2: As you pay a quarterback.

1669
01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:21,639
Speaker 3: You have to think about, maybe not for every single position,

1670
01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:23,679
Speaker 3: because you have your guys. You're gonna want to extend

1671
01:24:23,720 --> 01:24:25,519
Speaker 3: and you're gonna want to develop and you want to

1672
01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:30,160
Speaker 3: be here as foundational pieces of different iterations of the

1673
01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:31,080
Speaker 3: Buffalo Bills.

1674
01:24:31,160 --> 01:24:35,879
Speaker 2: But you do have to think ahead for some positions

1675
01:24:35,960 --> 01:24:38,240
Speaker 2: to think about, Man, we got to get younger here.

1676
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:41,120
Speaker 3: We can't afford this the salary here at this position

1677
01:24:41,200 --> 01:24:43,479
Speaker 3: because of what this position is demanding on the market.

1678
01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:45,880
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, and the way it fell this year, You've

1679
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:49,439
Speaker 1: got to sign guys just because you don't have guys.

1680
01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:57,000
Speaker 1: Damar Hamlin's gone, you know, Rasseull Douglas is gone. You

1681
01:24:57,120 --> 01:25:00,040
Speaker 1: gotta have somebody you got to line up, right, So

1682
01:25:00,680 --> 01:25:02,680
Speaker 1: you've got Taylor Rapping, Cole Bishop. It say if you

1683
01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:05,080
Speaker 1: need at least two more guys to back them up.

1684
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:10,840
Speaker 1: Even so, so at this position, at this current position,

1685
01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:13,160
Speaker 1: you're talking about difference makers, and look at these guys

1686
01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:16,439
Speaker 1: on them on the free agent mark Joey Bosa just

1687
01:25:16,479 --> 01:25:18,679
Speaker 1: got plugged into the top of the free agent market

1688
01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:22,479
Speaker 1: on edge rusher. He was making twenty million dollars a year.

1689
01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:27,160
Speaker 1: He's twenty nine and a half years old. Khalil Mack's

1690
01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:31,960
Speaker 1: thirty four years old. Draymont Jones is twenty eight point

1691
01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:35,800
Speaker 1: two years old. Hassan Reddick is thirty, Matt Judon is

1692
01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:41,280
Speaker 1: thirty two, DeMarcus Lawrence is three almost thirty three, Preston

1693
01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:45,560
Speaker 1: Smith thirty two, Josh Sweat twenty eight, Chase Young is

1694
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:49,320
Speaker 1: twenty six. Now there's a guy who's been around. It'll

1695
01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:52,679
Speaker 1: be interesting to see why how he does in free agency.

1696
01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:56,439
Speaker 1: Young he's because he's young. He's got some measurables. He's

1697
01:25:56,479 --> 01:25:59,639
Speaker 1: one of those combine guys right.

1698
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:02,240
Speaker 2: But hasn't panned out for how people thought it would.

1699
01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:08,519
Speaker 1: Charles and Menaheugh is only twenty seven. DeMarcus Walker, Jerome Baker,

1700
01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:11,000
Speaker 1: Marcus Davenport. Now you're getting down deep into the free

1701
01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:17,280
Speaker 1: agent list. Foley Fotakazi because he're white, Anthony Nelson, Lorenzo Carter.

1702
01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:20,680
Speaker 1: You know, these guys are all defensive edge rushers and

1703
01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:23,439
Speaker 1: four to three that can come in and yeah, And

1704
01:26:23,479 --> 01:26:25,800
Speaker 1: I'm sure the Bills know about all these have file

1705
01:26:25,880 --> 01:26:29,160
Speaker 1: on all these guys, But that's what you're kind of

1706
01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:31,760
Speaker 1: looking at. You're looking at guys like Joey Bosa, Khalil Mack,

1707
01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:35,040
Speaker 1: you know, Hassan Redick, and Matt Judon, all of them.

1708
01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:37,360
Speaker 1: At one point would have been wow, yeah, give me that.

1709
01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:39,400
Speaker 3: Game, right, But now it's like, do you want to

1710
01:26:39,439 --> 01:26:42,160
Speaker 3: play the game of just bringing a player that's thirty

1711
01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:44,400
Speaker 3: years old again and see what happens?

1712
01:26:44,479 --> 01:26:47,360
Speaker 1: They got some blemishes and some suspicions about them, about

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Speaker 1: what you think they can do. Yeah. Now, Khalil Mack,

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01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:54,080
Speaker 1: I don't think injuries have been a big part of

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01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:57,880
Speaker 1: his career. But he's thirty four.

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01:26:58,520 --> 01:27:01,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, what von Miller is thirty six?

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01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:07,000
Speaker 1: I think, yes, I believe so thirty five.

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01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:12,280
Speaker 3: So, and I think because the Bills have done it

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01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:15,080
Speaker 3: before with von Miller and we've seen how it's happened

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01:27:15,160 --> 01:27:18,519
Speaker 3: where you got you got a good amount of a

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01:27:18,680 --> 01:27:21,000
Speaker 3: first season out of him, and then he got heard

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01:27:21,080 --> 01:27:23,200
Speaker 3: and didn't come back how you wanted him to. And

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01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:27,120
Speaker 3: we saw some flashes this past season was tantalizing. Do

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01:27:27,160 --> 01:27:28,160
Speaker 3: you want to do that again?

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01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:33,280
Speaker 1: One guy has no effect on the other it's kind of.

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01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:34,120
Speaker 2: Like a relationship.

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01:27:34,280 --> 01:27:37,080
Speaker 3: You get into a relationship with somebody and you don't

1728
01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:39,040
Speaker 3: want to bring your relationship.

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01:27:38,479 --> 01:27:44,200
Speaker 1: Because it's going to happen like it did with your ex. Right, Okay, yeah,

1730
01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:47,760
Speaker 1: that's true. It doesn't they're different guys. You can't think

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01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:49,800
Speaker 1: just because it happened this way with von it's gonna

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01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:51,519
Speaker 1: happen this way with the Khalil Mack or Joey Bosa.

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01:27:52,800 --> 01:27:53,240
Speaker 1: Who knows.

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01:27:54,240 --> 01:27:57,559
Speaker 2: Wow, we see, we got to take a break.

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01:27:58,120 --> 01:28:00,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, when we return, well, we'll go back to the

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Speaker 3: phone lines as we close things up here at One

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Speaker 3: Bills Live or presented by Clude Health on Buffalo Bills Radio.

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01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:23,160
Speaker 3: We're back here on One Bill's Life. Got about a

1739
01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:25,360
Speaker 3: minute left in the show, so we're gonna go over

1740
01:28:25,479 --> 01:28:27,080
Speaker 3: to Mike from Amherst.

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01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:29,800
Speaker 2: You're on with us. If you could be quick, that.

1742
01:28:29,800 --> 01:28:31,439
Speaker 3: Would be great because we want to give you the

1743
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:33,599
Speaker 3: time to say your point before we close.

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01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:33,800
Speaker 1: It up here.

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01:28:34,600 --> 01:28:37,479
Speaker 8: Okay, Well, thank you, Maddie and Steve. I think you're awesome.

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01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:39,519
Speaker 8: I was gonna say I think we should go for

1747
01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:42,639
Speaker 8: Joshua Sweat from Philadelphia. I think it'd be a great fit.

1748
01:28:44,439 --> 01:28:47,160
Speaker 8: But actually, Steve had a good point just before this

1749
01:28:47,320 --> 01:28:51,760
Speaker 8: last commercial with safety. Why don't we go after Hua

1750
01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:56,120
Speaker 8: Funga from Nanasrow What he's from, he's the second year

1751
01:28:56,160 --> 01:28:56,479
Speaker 8: all pro.

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01:28:57,960 --> 01:28:59,160
Speaker 4: I think we scrafter a safety.

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01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:02,080
Speaker 2: All right, Mike, thank you for calling in. All right,

1754
01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:05,160
Speaker 2: Josh Sweat or a safety. Hey, it's a it's a

1755
01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:06,240
Speaker 2: good conversation to have.

1756
01:29:06,439 --> 01:29:08,439
Speaker 3: Josh Sweat has been a name that we've talked about

1757
01:29:08,479 --> 01:29:11,080
Speaker 3: already on the show this week and in past weeks.

1758
01:29:11,280 --> 01:29:14,439
Speaker 3: A safety's that's a position of need, as Zamar Hamlin

1759
01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:16,720
Speaker 3: is that to become a free agent. What's gonna happen

1760
01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:17,519
Speaker 3: there for Buffalo?

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01:29:18,080 --> 01:29:20,240
Speaker 1: I don't know, but you're right, and they're gonna sign

1762
01:29:20,280 --> 01:29:22,400
Speaker 1: two of them. They're gonna sign both those positions. They're

1763
01:29:22,439 --> 01:29:24,599
Speaker 1: gonna sign a safety. They're gonna sign an edge guy.

1764
01:29:24,840 --> 01:29:27,880
Speaker 1: Whether it's Josh Sweat and Tuafunga's it remains to be seen,

1765
01:29:28,240 --> 01:29:31,960
Speaker 1: but it'll be along those lines. I'll never forget how

1766
01:29:32,160 --> 01:29:35,160
Speaker 1: our eyes were all opened by Poyer and Hyde. Those

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01:29:35,200 --> 01:29:36,960
Speaker 1: were the first two guys, or two of the first

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01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:39,720
Speaker 1: guys that the bill signed. When Josh McDermott or Sean

1769
01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:42,439
Speaker 1: McDermott took over. Yeah, and later, we were all like,

1770
01:29:42,520 --> 01:29:45,040
Speaker 1: what it was a yawner. It turned out to be

1771
01:29:45,080 --> 01:29:45,519
Speaker 1: pretty good.

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01:29:45,600 --> 01:29:48,120
Speaker 3: Sean McDermott is really good at getting the best out

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01:29:48,200 --> 01:29:50,479
Speaker 3: of Safety's all right, that's it for us.

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01:29:50,680 --> 01:29:53,240
Speaker 2: Join us tomorrow one to three. We're talking about drafts.

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Speaker 4: He