1 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: The volume. All right, Nick Rite's about to stop on by. 2 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: We're going to go probably blow through an hour to 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: an hour and a half today. We've got a lot 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: of things to talk about. Hey, before we do that 5 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: with Nick Wright, I want you to download the game 6 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: Time app. Takes ninety seconds. I've used it. It's easy. 7 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: The game Time app authorized ticket marketplace for Major League 8 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: Baseball tickets get cheaper the closer you get to the 9 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: first pitch. And the thing about baseball now, the games 10 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: matter more, first of all. 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All right, Nick, Right, we haven't talked in 23 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,639 Speaker 1: a while, so I thought this was here's an interesting topic. 24 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: And I bring this up because you're one of the 25 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 1: bigger NBA fans. Is that some things don't sound don't 26 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: sound comforting, and they may sound almost appalling, but they're true, 27 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: and that treating your employees and paying them more than 28 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:42,639 Speaker 1: they deserve is really bad business. And that the reason 29 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: the NFL is king. It's virtually impossible to find a 30 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: bad contract in the league. I can remember Albert Hainsworth 31 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: for about a year got paid a ton with the Patriots. 32 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: You remember it because it's so infrequent. It may be 33 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: the only bad contract for the Patriots. Every NBA team 34 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: has a tear contract. Some have three. You know, before 35 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: James Dolan got distracted by the Sphere, it was like 36 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: half the half the contracts for the Knicks were bad contracts. 37 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: Is that One of the reasons that the NFL is 38 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: king is because they have a weak union. And that 39 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:19,959 Speaker 1: sounds terrible to say. Players have like Brandon Ayuk, They're like, no, 40 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: we're not going to cave. There's a bunch of good 41 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: receivers in next year's draft, We'll just go draft them. 42 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 2: Now. 43 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: I think they want him. They're furious, they know the 44 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: windows shrinking, their players are getting older. But I think 45 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: I've talked to a lot of guys in the NBA. 46 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: I saw Frank Vogel viether night at dinner. You know, La, 47 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 1: you see a lot of pro coaches, like especially where 48 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: I live. There all are in the best communities, and 49 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: football coaches are happier. Basketball coaches are all miserable, even 50 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: the successful ones. And the reason being is they have 51 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: cost certainty, they have control. In the NFL, you can 52 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: be productive, but you're a pain in the ass. I'm 53 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:00,080 Speaker 1: moving off you. I mean seven rounds of players if 54 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 1: the leagu's undrafted. In the NBA, after the fourteenth pick, 55 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: you run out of players. And this Brandon Ayuk situation 56 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: is interesting because in the NBA he would get paid 57 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: and he may go to coach fired. And in the 58 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: NFL they're like, now we got a bunch of good players. 59 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: Draft will give us nine receivers. We'll give you a number. 60 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: I mean, you didn't make like twenty three million, you're 61 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: not making thirty. And I think it really so. My 62 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: point being is it. Not giving the employee everything they 63 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: want is why the NFL succeeds. It forces players to 64 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: get their shit together. Like you don't get that nine 65 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: year baseball contract, We're like year four, five and six. 66 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 2: You're like, I'm getting my money. 67 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: The union so strong and Brandon Ayuke the Niners are 68 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: saying take it or leave it, Well, take it or 69 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: leave it. 70 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 2: I actually I so I think, I look at I 71 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 2: might I agree with some of what you're saying. I 72 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 2: wanted the well, yes, I'm definitely a union guy, but 73 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 2: I look at this, I look at the NBA and 74 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 2: the Ayuk thing separately. Let me deal with the NBA 75 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 2: thing first. I actually think a huge part of the 76 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 2: issues that you're describing with the NBA are caused by 77 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 2: the individual player, Max. I think so many of the 78 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 2: if the NBA salary cap was one hundred and fifty million, 79 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 2: and if you wanted to give Joker one hundred and 80 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 2: forty of it, you could so many of these. So 81 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 2: many of the complaints of the NBA go away for 82 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 2: two reasons. One is one of the reasons NBA guys 83 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 2: get what I would call non contract benefits, which is 84 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 2: I don't want to practice today. Let's not practice today 85 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 2: those types of things. Is because if you're artificially capping 86 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 2: what you can pay them and everyone can pay them 87 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 2: the same, you have to pay them elsewhere. You have 88 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 2: to be like, okay, actually worth one hundred million a year. 89 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 2: I can only pay you fifty so, and everyone can 90 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 2: pay you fifty so. Therefore we have to give you 91 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 2: these fringe benefits like you know what they give college 92 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 2: football coaches, country club memberships, whatever, in order to make 93 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 2: up that delta. The other thing the individual player cap 94 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 2: does is it makes it to where the middle class 95 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 2: NBA is wildly overpaid. And that's what fans. People think 96 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 2: fans are gonna get pissed when NBA guys are making 97 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 2: a million a game. They're not. They're not going to 98 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 2: be mad when Jason Tatum, who's the best player on 99 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 2: a champion, makes a million a game. Not more mad 100 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 2: than there are right now when he makes half a 101 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 2: million a game. Where people will get mad is when 102 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 2: they got mad at Tobias Harris. They're like, wait, you're 103 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 2: the sixty third best player in the league and you're 104 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 2: making thirty million a year. But that exists because of 105 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 2: the individual player Max So's the that's the first, that's 106 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 2: the NBA part. In my opinion, the ayuk thing. What 107 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 2: I think is fascinating about Ayu is people are wondering, 108 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 2: why are the Niners gonna cave? Why are the Niners 109 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 2: who are gonna get nothing back of substance for this 110 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,559 Speaker 2: season when they've got to win, when it's the last 111 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 2: year theoretically, when perty's cheap, when Trent's thirty six million, 112 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 2: why are they going to cave and trade him at 113 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 2: an inopportune time? And I said it on the show today, 114 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 2: and I think it's I think people, I think this 115 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 2: will resonate with people if they think not of NFL teams, 116 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 2: but of their own workplace, which is it is the 117 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 2: leverage Ayukaz is I can make it miserable here and 118 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 2: people don't think about that. Think about any workplace you've 119 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 2: been in where someone who's important and unfireable or ish 120 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 2: comes in, has a bad attitude. Is shit talking other people? 121 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 2: Is bringing the morale? Like bringing every room they walk 122 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 2: into you like, oh, that kills the vibe, that kills 123 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 2: working anywhere. And I think that is oddly the leverage 124 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 2: au Caz, The leverage auk Haz is this can be 125 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 2: miserable guys and if people doubt how much of an 126 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 2: impact that can have. Read the ESPN article today on 127 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 2: what happened to the Eagles. Eagles were ten and one, 128 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 2: they had won like twenty three of twenty five games. Yeah, 129 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 2: went to Super Bowl, did all that, and then what 130 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 2: happened to them? Well, it seems like the coach and 131 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 2: the quarterback couldn't be in a room one on one 132 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 2: together and the whole thing collapsed. So I think, oddly 133 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 2: the leverage I Ukaz or any of these guys have 134 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 2: is I can be a dick and I can make 135 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 2: team meetings and the locker room suck. And you if 136 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 2: I'm too good to cut, what are you gonna do? So? 137 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: But I think in the NFL people just move on. 138 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: I think in the NBA you don't. But in the NFL, Yeah, 139 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I've said I said this today. I would 140 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: take that University of Washington offensive lineman first round. 141 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 2: Guy. 142 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: I'll say, you can have Ayuk. You have to pay him, though. 143 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: We'll take that offensive lineman and the fans will think 144 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: what a terrible deal. But the Niners' biggest weakness is 145 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: their offensive line. Outside of Trent Williams, give us your 146 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: first pick because Ayuk's were the first rounder. We just 147 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: want a guy that can play now and the steel 148 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: And by the way, he's not scheduled to start for 149 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: the Steelers this year anyway. And by the way, the 150 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: utter part is that offensive coaches, I will say this 151 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: till I die, are better with offensive line than defensive coaches. 152 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: Andy Reid and Sean McVay reboot that thing every two 153 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: years brilliantly. Mike Tomlin can't get He cannot figure the 154 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: offensive line out. Pete Carroll in the Seahawks great draft picks, 155 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: couldn't figure it out. He hired terrible O line coaches 156 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: Sean McDermott outside a left tackle revolving door. Can't figure 157 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: the offensive line out mcvaghon Reid. Sean Payton goes to 158 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: the Broncos. 159 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 2: It's terrible. 160 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 1: Last year his first on line seventh by PFF Dotson 161 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 1: was a guard the Steelers. Was not going to start 162 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: for the Steelers. Sean Payton gets them for like a 163 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: fifth round pick. Sean McVeigh gets them for a fifth 164 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 1: round pick for the Rams. He's the highest rated guard 165 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: in the league last year, was not going to start 166 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 1: for the Steelers. So yeah, so my takeaways, give him 167 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: a Yuke, we'll take that. We'll take that interior offensive lineman. 168 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: The fans will think we got just used, but we 169 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 1: don't have to pay that kid. 170 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:36,959 Speaker 2: That would be a great deal. Listen if you if 171 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 2: that's the guy the the Steelers spent their first round 172 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 2: pick on this past year. It was the first round 173 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 2: and right, and the problem with the problem with trading 174 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 2: Ayuk is not trading Ayuk. It's trading Ayuk in August 175 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 2: if the compensation is next year's draft when you're trying 176 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 2: to win this year's super Bowl. Like the I was. 177 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember it, but I was. 178 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 2: You broke the news to me live on TV that 179 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 2: Tyreek Kill had been trading. I was on with you 180 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 2: and it happened, and in the moment I was beside myself, 181 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 2: and then the details came out and then I had 182 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 2: more time and a little I will admit this is 183 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 2: a little bit playing the result because the Chiefs haven't 184 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 2: you know, they've won every Super Bowl has been played 185 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 2: since the trade. But the key was they're going to 186 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 2: get four players for this year's team, like it was 187 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 2: happening before so they're gonna lose Tyreek and they got 188 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 2: a first round pick, a you know, a third to 189 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 2: fifth or whatever it was. But the draft hadn't happened yet, 190 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 2: and so it's like, oh, they're gonna be able to 191 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 2: improve these different things and use it right now as 192 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 2: opposed to trading post draft for future picks, which is 193 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 2: just always such a bomber. It's like, man, he's gonna 194 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:57,199 Speaker 2: help us today, and you're trading him for help down 195 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 2: the road. That's fine to do if you're or a 196 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 2: rebuilding team that doesn't care about winning. But the Niners' 197 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 2: best chance of winning a Super Bowl that hasn't already 198 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 2: happened is right now, because Rockberdy is gonna go from 199 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 2: wildly underpaid no matter what you think of him, to 200 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 2: comically overpaid, no matter what you think of him. So 201 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 2: the window is this moment, and that I mean, I listen, 202 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 2: I believe that he's going to the Steelers. Andrew Philipponi 203 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 2: out of Pittsburgh said, the Niners and Steelers have agreed. 204 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 2: They're waiting on Ayuk and the Steelers to come to 205 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 2: terms on the money. I also, can I ask you 206 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 2: another question for you move on to this stuff. Is 207 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 2: it a little odd to you that Ayuk is this 208 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 2: much more interested in Pittsburgh than New England because I 209 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh does not have a settled quarterback situation. We don't 210 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 2: know who it is New England. I get it's a rookie. 211 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 2: This is the third pick of the draft. He wanted 212 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 2: to go to Washington, who second pick of the draft. 213 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 2: Now I understand he played with Jayden before. But it 214 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 2: was the reporting out of New England is they offered 215 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 2: upwards of thirty two million a year. The Niners accepted 216 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 2: the terms, and Iuk was like, I won't play there. 217 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 2: That would make sense if it's like, no, I want 218 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,839 Speaker 2: to go to Baltimore and play with Lamar. I want 219 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 2: to go to Buffalo and play with Josh Allen. But 220 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 2: it's like, no, I won't play with the Patriots and 221 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 2: their defensive minded head coach with Drake Mayo quarterback because 222 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 2: I want to go to the Steelers, who are having 223 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 2: a quarterback competition between a first round pick that might 224 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 2: wash out and Russell Wilson's thirteen. That's weird to me 225 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 2: that I can't quite figure. 226 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 1: So players are all and this is not a criticism 227 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: but a reality selfish, and they probably should be. A 228 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,839 Speaker 1: GM can GM forever, an owner owns forever. A coach 229 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,559 Speaker 1: can coach until the seventies. A player's got like seven 230 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: peak years in football and then it's over. So they're selfish. 231 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 1: So if you were twenty two to twenty three years 232 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: old and you looked around the NFL, if I said 233 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: you could go to this place, it is player friendly. 234 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: You can be dramatic, you can talk. 235 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 2: That makes sense. 236 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh is a player heaven. Tomlin's not a big disciplinarian Tomlin. 237 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: I mean Tomlin almost ran onto the field to make 238 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: a tackle himself once he is the. 239 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 2: Jones. 240 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: He is very motivational. It's like Pete Carroll was viewed 241 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: player friendly. That's why when he didn't pay Earl Thomas, 242 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: Earl Thomas flipped him off because it was like players 243 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 1: just thought Pete gets guys paid. And so so when 244 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 1: you think of New England, their brand is rigid, the 245 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: crafts not player friendly. Take a pay cut, even though 246 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: it may not be the reality now that Brady and 247 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: Belichick are gone, the brand of New England is cold. 248 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: Boston is sort of fences make good neighbors. It's get 249 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: is a good time. 250 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 2: I mean, that's gotta be it, because it can't be. 251 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 2: I understand wide receiver being like quarterback quarterback quarterback, but 252 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 2: and I don't love Drake May but he's the third 253 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 2: pick of the draft. Like it's the Patriots would not 254 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 2: have traded the third pick of the draft for Russell 255 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 2: Wilson and justin fields like that, that would not have happened. 256 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 2: So it's just that part is weird to me. I 257 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 2: want to ask you one other thing for it. I 258 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 2: know this is your show. 259 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: No. 260 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 2: I read that ESPN article about Sirianni and Hurtz, yeah 261 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 2: and man o man. It reminded me a lot of 262 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 2: what we learned about Carol and Russell Wilson, which is 263 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 2: make a super Bowl with a quarterback that some believed 264 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 2: in some didn't. The coach still views the quarterback a 265 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 2: certain way. The quarterback then's like, no, I view myself 266 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 2: a different I got paid and I want to play 267 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 2: a different way. And it obviously for Carol and Wilson 268 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 2: it lasted for years and then it broke up at 269 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 2: the end. But when I when I'm reading that, Sirianni 270 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 2: still wanted run the ball, do certain things in Jalen 271 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 2: Hurtz like, you paid me two hundred and fifty million dollars, 272 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 2: I'm want to show you what I can do. It 273 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 2: reminded me so much of Pete and Russ at the 274 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 2: end that for Philly, I think there's all that Philly 275 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 2: has a really good roster. There are a lot of 276 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 2: big warning signs about the GM picked the coordinators that 277 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 2: if the head coach and quarterback are not on the 278 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 2: same page. That was not a great article. 279 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: No, but the difference is I'll give you an example. So 280 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson has had three different coaches. Three his college coach. 281 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: He was a wildly successful, productive college quarterback. His coach 282 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: basically said I'm gonna I'm gonna go with Mike glennt Yes, 283 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:04,239 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll him, I'm over you. Sean Payton actually resurrected 284 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: him a little bit, and he doesn't. So three coaches, 285 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: different levels of success, bailed on him. That tells me 286 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: that is a Russell Wilson issue. I've had multiple teammates 287 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: rip him like notable guys. So there's a Russell component 288 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: here and I think nothing. I'm not being you know, 289 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: anti Russ. But when three things happen if you rob 290 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: three banks. 291 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 2: No, that's right, and where it's the the It's funny 292 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 2: you brought up the NC state thing. I think that's relevant. 293 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 2: I think it's like, wait, so that was that? That 294 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 2: was it? And then he goes to Wisconsin and it 295 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 2: is awesome. It's like he keeps aside from in Denver, 296 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 2: he produces everywhere and the coaches seem really hesitant to 297 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 2: give him the full keys to the car, which is 298 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 2: a weird thing. With that said, Colin Jalen Hurts did 299 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 2: have to transfer from Alabama, right, yeap. 300 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 1: So it's twenty twenty four, and let's talk about something 301 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: really really important. If you're ever injured, check out Morgan 302 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 1: and Morgan's America's largest injury law firm, and they're there 303 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: for you. Over one hundred offices nationwide. 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So when 320 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 1: Sirianni got the job, I called I have six GMS 321 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 1: on my phone, a couple scouting directors and we talk 322 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: all the time. And I called various people, and I 323 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: didn't really actually want to call Chris Ballard because I 324 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,239 Speaker 1: didn't want to put Chris in a bad spot. So 325 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,199 Speaker 1: he wasn't one of the ones I called because Ballard 326 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: he came from Indianapolis. So it's it's like, for instance, 327 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: I can I can text Brett Veach and ask him 328 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: a quarterback question because I know he's not drafting one 329 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 1: right right, right, But I didn't want to ask Tom 330 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: te LESCo a friend about Tua and Justin Herbert, because 331 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: I knew he needed one and I didn't think it 332 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: was fair for me to poke in PROD in that space. 333 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 2: So I tend to use US. 334 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 1: I tend to source my people non sensitive areas. 335 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 2: Right, not neutral parties on whatever you're talking about. So 336 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 2: he asked Ballad about Sirianni when. 337 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 1: He is there, Yes, I can ask him now about Sirianni. 338 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: I felt comfortable asking Chris post success be into Super Bowl, 339 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 1: but I called two people, two people that I went 340 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 1: and looked up Sirianni's resume where he'd been. Two people 341 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 1: both said the same thing. I don't know if he's ready. 342 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's great on his side of 343 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: the ball yet. And there's a distinction here. You can 344 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: bang on Jim Harbaugh, but he gets the offense right 345 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:48,640 Speaker 1: everywhere fast you can. You can bang on Nick Saban. 346 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: He didn't win big at Michigan State or LSU year four. 347 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: He was losing games. The defense gets better immediately wherever 348 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 1: Nick Saban was, including the Miami Dolphins Lincoln Riley offense 349 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: brilliant the minute he arrives Nick Siriani. That article at 350 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: ESPN said people didn't respect his ex's and no offense. 351 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 1: I know, and so that that literally was exactly what 352 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: I heard from my sources, which was he's not good 353 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: enough on his side of the ball. He's not viewed 354 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 1: as an expert. Like like, I'll give you another one, 355 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: Matt Eberflus. You can say what you want. That was 356 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: the best defense in the league the last seven weeks 357 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: of the year, and they didn't have the best person out. 358 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, so you can say what you want, 359 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: like Steve Spurrier may not have been the best this this, this. 360 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 1: His offenses were good at Duke, they were great at Florida, 361 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: Like he knew offense. So the difference with the Jalen 362 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 1: Hurts thing is is, yes, he did transfer, and there 363 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 1: may be some of that, but there's a competent coach 364 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 1: in Pete Carroll and one in Nick Sirianni. I mean 365 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: that opening press conference was a glimpse into he was 366 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: over his skis when he got that. 367 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 2: Job, So listen. And I also think you can't have 368 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 2: your coach be a shit talker unless you're a team 369 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 2: of shit talkers. If you're sorry, my dog's running around. 370 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 2: But it's fine if you're a if everyone on your 371 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 2: team is, you know, taunting and whatever, and that's the 372 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 2: motif you want to have. Especially if your coach is 373 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 2: maybe a former player, then maybe you can get away 374 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 2: with it. But what you can't have is a totally 375 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 2: buttoned up team led by a quarterback who is like 376 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 2: the best press conference in the league, and then a 377 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 2: coach he's screaming at fans and taunting. You can't have that. 378 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 2: That part I totally agree with. My concern is on 379 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 2: the flip side, which is, man, we've seen Jalen Hurts 380 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 2: play big time football for seven years. There's only been 381 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 2: one he looked like an NFL franchise quarterback? Is it? 382 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 2: Never in college, at no point with Philly except for 383 00:21:58,080 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl year and he was brilliant that year, 384 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 2: and he was amazing in the Super Bowl. I just 385 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 2: don't know. I think that what happened to Peterson and 386 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 2: Wins absolutely could happen to Sirianni and Hurts, which is 387 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 2: that they're both gone within three years of the Super Bowl. 388 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 2: I think that's on the board. 389 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: No, I think it is. And what also concerned you, 390 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: you know, it used to be this rule, don't draft 391 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: the Jeff Tedford quarterback in the NFL because all of 392 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: his college quarterbacks look amazing, right, yes, right, and then 393 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: and so the Alabama. So the other thing with her 394 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: is Shane Steiken. So the pre Stichen calling the play 395 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: is not good. Post Stikeen leaves the building, not good. 396 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 2: You know, got Gardner Minshew to the damn playoffs last year. 397 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: No, I mean that's why when the Raiders go and 398 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: get Gardner Minshew. I said this here day on the air, 399 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 1: You're not getting the Indianapolis Gardner Minshew. That's not what 400 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: you're getting. And by the way, Shane Stikeen, the best 401 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,439 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert ever was was the first year where Shane Stikeen. 402 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 2: Oh I didn't even remember that he was there. Yeah, 403 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 2: I mean that is that only sounded rookie records. 404 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson, is he good? 405 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,360 Speaker 2: He's got Shane Stikeen, He'll be good. I mean that's why, man, 406 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 2: I think the Colts could be Listen, Anthony Richardson has 407 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 2: barely played more pro football than Jayden Daniels. You know 408 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 2: what I mean. I mean it's like sixty snaps. I 409 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:28,719 Speaker 2: understand that, but man, what I saw was impressive, and 410 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 2: coming out of Florida, I thought the book on him 411 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 2: from the people that watched more Florida than me, was 412 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 2: all right, amazing physical gifts. But you know, two years 413 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 2: away from being an NFL ready quarterback. Then I saw 414 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,679 Speaker 2: him playing, I'm like, seemed pretty fucking ready to me, Like, 415 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 2: I got hurt a lot, but I mean, it didn't 416 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 2: seem like the game was too fast for him, any 417 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 2: of it. Now, maybe he's the fact that he suffered 418 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 2: two significant injuries in four games makes you think, maybe 419 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:00,719 Speaker 2: you know, that's gonna be a problem. I don't know. 420 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 2: But Indies, that whole division, to me is interesting because 421 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 2: you have Jacksonville, which I you know, I can't quit 422 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 2: my guy Trevor. I still believe in him. The Texans, who, 423 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 2: you know, some people are gonna, you know, that will 424 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 2: be the trendy team. They're like, this is the team 425 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 2: that will beat the Chiefs this year, that people like, 426 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 2: and then no one's gonna be on Indie or Tennessee. 427 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 2: Now I don't like the direction of the Titans. I 428 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 2: don't trust Levis, but the Titans. You know who thinks 429 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 2: the Titans are competing the Titans who are spending money 430 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 2: and doing things like a team that can win. And 431 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 2: then there's the Colts just sitting there like, hey, guys, 432 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 2: we were a completion away from being in the playoffs 433 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 2: last year. They were playing in Week eighteen on Sunday 434 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 2: Night Football for the playoffs. And if Richardson's good man, 435 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 2: they could be a dangerous team. 436 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: So I had an I had a couple of Olympic 437 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 1: team rants today and I said one of the things 438 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: I said with KD, I said, actually being the all 439 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: time leading scorer cements his legacy. So KD is salt 440 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: to a chef. He makes everything better, eggs carmel. It 441 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: doesn't matter you put him on any team. He got 442 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: to the finals with Westbrook. Lebron couldn't decode Westbrook right. 443 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: He made the Warriors the best team arguably ever, even 444 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: in Brooklyn. He was outstanding the fact that his teammate 445 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,199 Speaker 1: wouldn't get the vaccine. There's only so much you can do. 446 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: So and then you put him on this team. And 447 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: I said, if you look at even great players, you 448 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: put Tatum around great players. He kind of shrinks. Steph 449 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 1: has to adjust embiid clogs it. Lebron takes a leadership role, 450 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: but won't score as much. KD works everywhere. Now, as 451 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: long as you don't ask him to lead, don't ask 452 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: him to do that, just ask him to fit. He 453 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: is the salt to the chef. Oh, we've got it. 454 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: Everything will taste great tonight. So that is that's go ahead. 455 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 2: Finished. Sorry. 456 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 1: So, so it's perfect that he on a collection of 457 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: the world's best players that thirty years from now in 458 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 1: a bar, you'll be like, who's the leading scorer? 459 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 2: Jordan? 460 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: No, well was Curry not even close? Lebron No not close? Okay, 461 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: what time out? Let me let me think was it. 462 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 1: Let's go back to the Olympics, was it Bill Bradley 463 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,679 Speaker 1: will no, no, no, it's Kevin Durant. And you'll be like, 464 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: the fuck. Yeah, it is, like because when you ask 465 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: players Mark Fuse, a buddy of mine, he coaches the 466 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: Olympics assistant years ago. I said, I just asked him, like, like, 467 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: tell me one thing that's just crazy about coaching the Olympics, 468 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 1: and he just went, Kevin Durant, Man. 469 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 2: That's all he said. Right, So the so the he 470 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 2: is probably if you take the this is something Brew 471 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 2: hasn't said, this exact thing but he's basically said a 472 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 2: different version of it. I think he's right. Take the 473 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 2: twenty greatest players ever. Okay, he's somewhere on them, close 474 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 2: to twenty, but on there, yeah, there is not a 475 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:40,360 Speaker 2: single one of them that you can simply drop on 476 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:45,679 Speaker 2: every great team in NBA history and it definitely works 477 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 2: other than Durant, Like I totally, it does not matter 478 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 2: the era, the rules, the what what redundancy, they already 479 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 2: have anything. Drop him on any great team and it works, 480 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:09,199 Speaker 2: no great And so that is and your point is, 481 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 2: I think if if Kevin heard this, he would say, 482 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 2: that's what I've been saying, which is I don't want 483 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:21,199 Speaker 2: to be the leader. When I'm asked about leadership, I'm like, 484 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,439 Speaker 2: that's the coach's job. You know what I want to 485 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 2: do is play basketball. And you know what everyone seems 486 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,919 Speaker 2: to say, I'm awesome at playing basketball, and you guys 487 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:33,959 Speaker 2: tar me, I think, again, this is what I think 488 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 2: Kevin would say with I'm a bad leader, but luckily 489 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 2: my job is basketball player, not leader, So fuck off. Like, 490 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 2: I think that's what he's say And it's like, it's 491 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 2: not a terrible argument, except for the fact that it 492 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 2: seems like the other guys in that room of greatness 493 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 2: are kind of able to multitask it or have somebody 494 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 2: alongside him who's also great who can do it for him. 495 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 2: And so it is. It is such a unique thing 496 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 2: because I do think I do think Durant is. I 497 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 2: told you this on the podcast before, but I'll say 498 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 2: it again. I had somebody who is super close with 499 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 2: one of the greatest players ever and it's not Durant. 500 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 2: Say if you if we were to line the twenty 501 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 2: greatest players up and they're all at their peak on 502 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 2: a blacktop and ask someone who didn't know about resumes 503 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:47,239 Speaker 2: or anything whatever, who they wanted who they think the 504 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 2: best guy is, and you described it, It's like, Okay, 505 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 2: the points at Michael Jordan and it's like, all right, 506 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 2: tell me about that guy. It's like, well, he's average size, 507 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 2: amazing athlete, good not great shooter, crazy, crazy competitor. They'd 508 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 2: be like, okay, next point it. Shit. I mean, the 509 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 2: most dominant physical force is you know, gonna come and 510 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 2: go with effort, is gonna be a liability at the 511 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 2: free throw line, but is gonna give you a guaranteed 512 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 2: thirty Okay, Nora. They point at Lebron all right, not 513 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 2: the best shooter in the room, not the best dribbler, 514 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 2: probably the best passer, and is probably the best athlete. Okay, 515 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 2: what about that guy, oh Durant, Well, he's the second 516 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 2: tallest person here. He's also the second best shooter. He's 517 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 2: also the fourth best dribbler. He also can pass, he 518 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 2: can defend. And they'd be like, well, I'm fucking taking him. 519 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 2: They're like, wait, he's the second tallest and the second 520 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,719 Speaker 2: best shooter. They're like, oh, yeah, he can do that. 521 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 2: Is he durable? Well he's gonna play twenty years, Like, 522 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 2: uh can't? Is he a terrible defind or no, he can. 523 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 2: He can you know, credibly guard a bunch of response. 524 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 2: But despite that, he's probably kind of underachieved. And I like, so, 525 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 2: I like all of those things are true. And it's 526 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 2: because of that leadership component that he has been honest about, like, 527 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 2: I don't think that's my job, so I'm not going 528 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 2: to do it. And I think it's fascinating because when 529 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 2: he looks his best around the best, and then other guys, 530 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 2: when they're around the best, you're like, oh, you're a 531 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 2: grade lower, like Tatum. Tatum's around the best, and it's like, oh, 532 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 2: you're just a grade lower. Duran's around the best, and 533 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 2: you're like, are you the best player alive? Like it's 534 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 2: such a fascinating thing. Yeah. No. 535 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: And I think somebody said this once that the greatest 536 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: athletes you wouldn't really want them to be your boss 537 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: because they have such bad personal tendencies. They're very selfish, 538 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: they're relentless, they're harsh. I mean, Jordan could be just 539 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: not just not a giver, a taker. Same with the 540 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: Lake Kobe Bryant. But Kevin Durant actually would be a 541 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 1: fun hang like he would be you could do eighty 542 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: two games and it'd be like he'd get a drink 543 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: with you, you know there, you would just he would 544 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: make you laugh when you were having a bad day. 545 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: He'd put his arm around you and goes, okay, bro, 546 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: let's just go ahead. 547 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 2: I totally agree with this, I and I it's one 548 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 2: of the and I've tried kind of I don't want 549 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 2: to say behind the scenes, but I know some people 550 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 2: that are tight with Kevin, and listen, at one point, 551 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 2: I you know, I know, I know definitively that Kevin, 552 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,719 Speaker 2: you know, thought I was one of the people's kind 553 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 2: of a problem with the media, and that's like, that's 554 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 2: just right, that's fine. But I have tried to kind 555 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 2: of threw back channels like political stuff, like try to 556 00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 2: set up a situation where he and I could sit 557 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 2: and talk basketball or sit and talk because over the 558 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 2: last four years, I have grown to have such affection, 559 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 2: if you will, for kind of just how comfortable he 560 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 2: is in his own skin, like the he's gone a 561 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 2: long way from the burners and all that stuff. It's like, nah, 562 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 2: if I think you're full of shit on the internet, 563 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you, Like I thought it was hilarious that, 564 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 2: like a couple of days into the Olympics, on an 565 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 2: off day, he was arguing with strangers on the internet 566 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 2: on Twitter. It's like, dude, you're you got half a 567 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 2: billion dollars, you're single, you're wildly famous in the Olympic 568 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 2: village in Paris, and you're like, I got to get 569 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 2: these tweets off, man, I don't care. I'm gonna sit 570 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 2: here and argue with you guys about basketball. And I 571 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 2: was like, I just I found it charming. And I 572 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 2: also think he has such an immense respect for the 573 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 2: game itself that I really like so I like Durant. 574 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 2: I really like Durant, and I do I agree with 575 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 2: you like he would. I do think he'd be a 576 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 2: great guy to be uh, you know, to be on 577 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,879 Speaker 2: a team with. And I do think he'd be of 578 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 2: all the superstars, one of the best hangs. And that's 579 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 2: also it's also probably helpful. He's one of the only 580 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 2: superstars of that level that's still like a single guy, 581 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,760 Speaker 2: like hanging out with the fellas like Steph and Lebron. 582 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,439 Speaker 2: Everybody's married with kids. Durant's like, Nah, I'm gonna play 583 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 2: video games, smoke a little weed and play basketball. Like 584 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 2: I don't know about you guys. Smell of a life man. 585 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,800 Speaker 1: The volume. Thanks for listening to part one of the 586 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: conversations with Nick. Don't forget the check back for part two.