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Speaker 1: the supernatural and the unexplained. Getting ready now for Shades

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Speaker 1: of the Afterlife with Sandra Champlain. The thoughts and opinions

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Speaker 1: matter and your needs. Hi. I'm Sandra Champlain. For almost

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Speaker 1: twenty five years, I've been on a journey to prove

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Speaker 1: the existence of life after death. On each episode will

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Speaker 1: discuss the reasons we now know that our loved ones

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Speaker 1: have survived physical death and so will we. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: Shades of the Afterlife. It's stawned on me that what

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Speaker 1: we haven't talked about in a long time is animals

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Speaker 1: in the afterlife. Today, I want to introduce you to

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Speaker 1: Charles Peten, who is a animal communicator, medium and more

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Speaker 1: so Charles Welcome. Thank you sorew for having me on

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Speaker 1: at the pleasure, you're most welcome. So where shall we begin.

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Speaker 1: One of the things that people talk about, and we

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Speaker 1: need to address that early, it's the other side. Well,

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Speaker 1: we talk about the other side. I think it's a

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Speaker 1: misnomer because I don't see it is removed from us

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Speaker 1: in any way whatsoever. The only thing that's removed from

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Speaker 1: us is our perception. So when someone is in the spirit,

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Speaker 1: they're just as much here as X rays, gamma raise

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Speaker 1: of our scientific instruments at this present time, it's a challenge.

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Speaker 1: But if we were to talk about X rays and

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Speaker 1: gamma rays three years ago, you'd be saying, what even

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Speaker 1: the wireless internet that's around us about, which is of course,

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Speaker 1: is how we do what we do with telepathy. It's

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Speaker 1: all binary code, is my understanding. So, after discovering the

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Speaker 1: ability to communicate with those in spirit, my wife had

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Speaker 1: asked me, she goes, can you connect with someone at will?

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Speaker 1: As opposed to just having someone show up? And so

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Speaker 1: fifteen specific questions. As she asked very specific, detailed ones

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Speaker 1: a gift when I was eight? Wow, that's specific. Okay, Okay,

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Speaker 1: hold on a second. He's showing me it looks like

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Speaker 1: call her grandma that next day and ask Grandma which

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Speaker 1: So after asking all those questions and getting him so

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Speaker 1: told me, he goes, Hey, your wife informed me of

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Speaker 1: By May seventeenth, I was starting to do rings for

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Speaker 1: And I have to go back to the the references

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Speaker 1: a little bit. After we talked about Cheli. So Chewi

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00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 1: tells me, he goes, yeah, I'm eight, but he's not eight.

424
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 1: He's actually a different age. And then when the family

425
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 1: tells me he's not eight, I go back to him

426
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 1: and go, okay, how old are you really? Then tells

427
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,639
Speaker 1: me his correct age. I bring it forwards. Confirmed. Then

428
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 1: I asked him again about the eighth and I go,

429
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 1: why did you mentioned eight? He goes, I'm on eighth Avenue.

430
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 1: I'm like what. He goes, Yeah, there's a roofing supply company.

431
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 1: And he starts describing all these details and he tells

432
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 1: me he can't go anywhere because this pause hurt. So

433
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,920
Speaker 1: they go and drive right to the spot. They drive

434
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 1: right over the eighth Avenue. Sure enough, he's sitting right there.

435
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 1: He's got water. That was one of the questions. Does

436
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 1: he have access to water? He's confirmed yes. He was

437
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,120
Speaker 1: sitting right next to a leaky garden hose and there's

438
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,159
Speaker 1: a roofing supply company that he was sitting next to.

439
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 1: The way he related that it was a roofing supply company.

440
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:56,119
Speaker 1: He kept showing me those devices that are used to

441
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 1: convey roofing tiles up under a roof. You know, those

442
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 1: conveyor systems on trucks are using commercial application GAP. That

443
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 1: was pretty cool. Locating another cat where the cat described

444
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 1: in detail the fact that there was this overwhelming smell

445
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,880
Speaker 1: of paint in the area, freshly sprayed paint. There's only

446
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 1: one house in the neighborhood that had a fresh code

447
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 1: of paint applied within the last week. We found that

448
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 1: cat immediately. It was in the yard immediately across the

449
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,119
Speaker 1: street from the house, and so little things like that

450
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,120
Speaker 1: coming quite handy. I think one of the more unusual

451
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:31,119
Speaker 1: ones was a missing turtle and the turtle I was like,

452
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 1: sitting here on Okay, yeah, right, you've got a missing turtle.

453
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 1: How far is the turtle gonna get? Are you serious? Okay,

454
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 1: I'll try to keep a stray faced. So you've got

455
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 1: a missing turtle. And I talked to the turtle, and

456
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 1: turtle describes to me what type of turtle they are,

457
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 1: the pattern on their shell, what size they are, and

458
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 1: I bring up forward and it's all confirmed. And I

459
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 1: get excited because now I know I have contact and

460
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 1: I didn't expect it. So the turtle goes I'm in

461
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 1: a dirty laundry and all I can smell is dirty laundry,

462
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 1: and I'm being told in the boy's room and that

463
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 1: the turtle was in the boys pile dirty laundry. All

464
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 1: my clients insisting to her house never has piles of

465
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 1: dirty laundry in it, And I'm going, yeah, right, in

466
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 1: what world? Do you live in But nope, it's confirmed

467
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,879
Speaker 1: because then the turtle goes, but I'm not in the house.

468
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:26,120
Speaker 1: I'm in another building. I'm in the laundry room. It's

469
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 1: in the garage. So I bring that forward. She goes,

470
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 1: there's no way my turtles in the garage because you

471
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 1: have to leave the house. You have to exit the door.

472
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 1: You have to open another door and go in that door,

473
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:38,439
Speaker 1: and there's just no way. Turtle is adamant. I'm in

474
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 1: the pile dirty laundry in the garage, in the laundry room.

475
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: So she hangs up. She calls him back about I

476
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 1: think it was twenty minutes later. She goes, yeah, we

477
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 1: got our turtle. He was on the dirty laundry. Oh

478
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 1: my god. The boy I picked up the turtle four

479
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,880
Speaker 1: days ago, carried the turtle in with the dirty clothes

480
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 1: and dropped it in the pile. And the turtle was

481
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:02,400
Speaker 1: almost dead because there was no limited oxygen and whatever

482
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 1: else and little water. Now, who will last for a while,

483
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,040
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Speaker 1: we are with Charles Peden. Charles, is there ever a

509
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Speaker 1: time that an animal gives away something that maybe the

510
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Speaker 1: At an event that took place not too long ago

512
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Speaker 1: at jack Lemon Square where I was doing a fundraiser

513
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: for the spc A, this couple came up with their

514
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 1: beautiful golden lab. They sit down and the dog turns me.

515
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 1: He goes, I go to the track. I was like, oh,

516
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 1: you go to the track. What do you do at

517
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 1: the track? He goes, I sit in the car in

518
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: the parking lot. My dad does in your bets on

519
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 1: on the ponies, and I happen to know that that

520
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 1: exit is one exit off of the big off leash

521
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 1: dog park. Point is a bell and this is um

522
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: gold Gate Fields that we're talking about. So um, I

523
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: bring that up and the gentleman you mean he starts

524
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: walking off. His wife calls off after him. She goes,

525
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: how did you gamble in? Again? He goes, I knew

526
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: this is a bad idea. He rumbles under his breath

527
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 1: and walks off. I'm like, wow, that was an interesting start.

528
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: What else he got from me? Dog? He turns to me,

529
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 1: he goes, my boy doesn't play with me anymore. You

530
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: want to play his video games. And I'm looking at

531
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: a ten year old boy there, and he's sitting there

532
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: with his mom, and the dad's already gone off and

533
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: huff and so I turned to the mom and I'm like, well,

534
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: you know, your dog tells me the boy doesn't play

535
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: with him anymore. I guess that's true. But what game

536
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: is he playing? So I was like, hey, dog bailed

537
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 1: me out. What game is he playing? And dogs like, oh,

538
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: call Duty? He shows me the box cover art for

539
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: Call of Duty. So I bring up forward boys. My

540
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 1: jaw drops. He looks at me, he looks at his mom,

541
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: looks at the dog, and I don't think you'll ever

542
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: be the same. Got ratted out by the dog as

543
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: to what he's doing, and I thought it was hilarious.

544
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 1: Oh my god. So the bottom line is this, to me,

545
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: dogs and cats and every single other species, they're just

546
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 1: like you and I. There's only one difference the vehicle

547
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: we have here. That's the difference in our experience level

548
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: and everything else. But the soul is the soul. The

549
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: vehicles a vehicle. So when you pull up to a

550
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: stop sign and the person sitting next to you is

551
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 1: driving a little scooter on your left and the person

552
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: saying next to you on your rights driving a back trucky,

553
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 1: you don't think any less of them or more of them.

554
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: They're just vehicles on the road life, just like you

555
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 1: and I, And so at the end of the day,

556
00:29:58,320 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: when we all get out of our vehicles, we have

557
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: a be on a level playing field. We don't go

558
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: to separate places. They have souls, they're not soulless, and

559
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: so from where I'm sitting, it's a very dynamic existence

560
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: where they're constantly reading our minds on a telepathic basis.

561
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: The way that that works is through binary code. You

562
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: say more about smartphone you mentioned before, and they didn't

563
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: know what you mean. When I'm first reaching out to somebody,

564
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: the first thing I'm looking for is yes or no response.

565
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 1: So it's kind of like when you call somebody on

566
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 1: the phone and you either hear it ringing actively on

567
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: the other end or there's dead air, meaning it's not active. Right,

568
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: So if I go to connect with someone, if they're responding,

569
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: typically what I'm going to feel is a little pulsive energy,

570
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: a little feedback loop. And that's the equivalency of somebody

571
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: going uh huh, yeah, okay, go ahead, you know, and

572
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 1: if nothing's coming through, they're just not answering or they're

573
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Speaker 1: ignoring you or incapable of doing so at the time.

574
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Speaker 1: So what happens is it's kind of like working with

575
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: rabbit ears on an old antenna, where initially you may

576
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 1: be dealing with a fuzzy image that's coming in as

577
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: a little unclear. You can get the outline, you can

578
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: kind of see that you're dealing with a cat versus

579
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: a dog, so on, so forth, and then all of

580
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: a sudden, the picture just gets crystal clear. The color

581
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: comes flying in, smells, sight, sounds, it's all there. And

582
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: so it can be at various levels of either a

583
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: tentative connection or one that's so connected that you feel

584
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: like you're experiencing it firsthand, and there's everything in between.

585
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: And so as binary code, let's talk about what the

586
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: human body actually does, or anybody for that matter, gets

587
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: a vehicle. So a vehicle has sensors like your curb

588
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: sensors that alert you, oh, you idiots craping the curb,

589
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: your parallel parking need to attention. So when we burn

590
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: our fingers, say, for example, you touch a hot plate

591
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you burn your hand, there's

592
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: a split second delay. What's happening here? In this split

593
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: second delay between you registering the pain and the pain

594
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: actually being delivered to your hand or the burn, there's

595
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: information that's traveling up your nervous system that's really just

596
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: a similar to a hard wired system in a car

597
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: or anything else. It's just like the electrical wiring, and

598
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: there's a little packet of data that's traveling up that

599
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: nervous system that's that wiring, and that a little packet

600
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: of data is comprised of little blips of energy and flatlines,

601
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: basically binary code. So the same way that your smartphone

602
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: can show you pictures in full color with movement like

603
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: a video clip or um can you know, bring across

604
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: all this text or you know you get the idea

605
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: the same way all that's taking place, the same way

606
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: that I'm receiving what I'm receiving, No different, I don't

607
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 1: need to understand how binary code works. They just need

608
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: to understand how the interface works. And just like a smartphone,

609
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: there's multiple sources of information all displayed on one screen.

610
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: So regardless of whether you're receiving a skype call from

611
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: Hong Kong or you are playing a game that's on

612
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: your hard drive on your phone, it makes no difference.

613
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: You're playing it on the same screen. It's interacting the

614
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: same correct, right, mind is the very it's the same.

615
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: There's no difference really. So when you look at your mind,

616
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: one of the first things to do to start asking yourself,

617
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: and this is the kicker. Did I put this piece

618
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: of information here? Was this self generated? Is this a

619
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: piece of information coming from another source? Well, you're looking

620
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: for is a little energy pulse? The energy pulse is yes,

621
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: it's going to feel like a psychological discharge, a mild

622
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 1: adrenaline burst or something akin to that, kind of like

623
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: that feeling you get when you know, you get the

624
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 1: goose bumps on the back of the neck and you

625
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: hear goes open stuff like that. Twelve times since we've

626
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: been talking, by the way, it never happened anyways. So

627
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: what happens is that as you're making connections with those

628
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: yes and knows. Yes is a energy pulse, A know

629
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: is a flat line. Um, it will start to morph

630
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: into full image is another stuff in your mind. So

631
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: usually initially the connection is very yes, no format it,

632
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 1: but it quickly morphs into a much richer, more you know,

633
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: enjoyable experience in the sense that it's more visceral, there's

634
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,760
Speaker 1: more data there. I'll give you a really good example.

635
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 1: I was on a safari and we met this cape

636
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 1: buffalo and this cape buffalo great buffalo. We'll call her Sally,

637
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: not her real name. I gotta protect the identity. Yeah,

638
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: So the safari tour guide who was driving the jeep,

639
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: he stopped in front of the Cape Buffalo. He goes

640
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 1: to Sally have anything she wants to tell us. We're

641
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 1: on film. We're being filmed for this on camera. And uh,

642
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: I asked Sally. And Sally's response was very quick, and

643
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 1: she goes, yes, those apples, the ones he brings by,

644
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, they're so good. And all of a sudden,

645
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: I got the sensation of this red, delicious apple exploding

646
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 1: in the back of my throat. I could feel with

647
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: juice is running down. I can tell you how crisp

648
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: it was, what flavor it was, how sweet it was, um,

649
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: the temper, sure, I could tell you, you know, all

650
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,800
Speaker 1: these details would come and rushing through concerning this apple

651
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 1: that she had enjoyed. So I bring it forward and

652
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 1: he goes, no one knows about that on her menu,

653
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: but I sneak her one every day. That's so beautiful.

654
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 1: And so of course you know, she's ask him for

655
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,479
Speaker 1: another one and telling me how much she enjoys getting

656
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 1: him from him, which I thought was really cool. So

657
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,879
Speaker 1: let's take that step further. I was at a dinner party,

658
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 1: was a mess pc A volunteers, also some people who

659
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: work in wildlife rehab, which I did not know at

660
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: the time. I thought I was strictly domestic animals that

661
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 1: we were dealing with it. Initially, We're sitting there and

662
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: joined dinner, and this one person finally says, so you're

663
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: you're the guy who talks to animals, right, And I

664
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: was like, well, yes, Like um, so he picking up

665
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: on anything today? Said yeah, as a matter of fact,

666
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 1: there's a large bird and oh my go oh that's nasty.

667
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: Oh whose job is at the feed him? Microwave? Thought

668
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:02,800
Speaker 1: frozen mice? Oh, just disgusting. Oh my, you have no idea.

669
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 1: That was the worst flavor I've ever had in my mouth.

670
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: I'm sitting at the dinner trying to get out of

671
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: my mouth. I'm like, more wine, please, and oh boy,

672
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 1: it was nasty. So then uh, the owl tells me.

673
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: He goes, and by the way, let me just tell

674
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: you the difference. And all of a sudden I could

675
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 1: taste what it was like to have a fresh mouse

676
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,720
Speaker 1: in my mouth, and I was like, oh, foody, revolution, revelation.

677
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh that's so I'm going to get

678
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 1: a sat tartar. It was crazy. It was like, you know,

679
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: nine days his gentleman saying to my immediate right, he goes, yeah,

680
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: it sounds like you're connecting with my owl. Excuse me,

681
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: He goes, yeah, I work in wildlife rehab and we've

682
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 1: got this owl that just came in. That's my job.

683
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:45,320
Speaker 1: I feed the owl the microwave thodde frozen mice. So really, okay,

684
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 1: you wonder how he broke his wing, his right wing,

685
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,879
Speaker 1: and he goes, yeah, we were wondering about that. Yeah,

686
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 1: it's his right wing name. And that was that wild

687
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: animals communicate at the same level there's no difference. I'm

688
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: just stunned. Right now. We have a cat named Harry,

689
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: and he loves my aunt, loves my aunt, follows my

690
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: aunt everywhere, cuddles with my aunt. He takes a look

691
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 1: at me and he's just like yeah, whatever, Like he

692
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 1: doesn't jump on my lap, nothing. And again I've always thought, well,

693
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: you know, it's okay. Some animals love people, certain people

694
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 1: more than others. And what this is telling me is,

695
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 1: I like, I love Harry, but I like I can

696
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: talk to him, I kid be with him more, and

697
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 1: it's to take more of an effort to and it's

698
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 1: fine if Donna is his favorite, but just to love him.

699
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: And it happens in every single and that's one of

700
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: my actual go to questions oftentimes to verify his ransom

701
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: connection is I was having a chat with a parrot

702
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: the other day in India who have gone missing. This

703
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: is last week. I don't mean to laugh, but it

704
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: just sounds funny and it's a beautiful. What you do

705
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: till I tell you about the ralph snake and ralph snakes,

706
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 1: I should say is I'm chatting with his parrot and

707
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: the parrot tells me very clearly what direction he was

708
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: seen leaving the home, how old he is, how long

709
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: he's of there, what his house looks like in the

710
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,479
Speaker 1: sense of what his change looks like, whether it's round

711
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 1: or square, and so on and so forth, and so

712
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 1: I've got a wealth of detail coming. Then I asked him,

713
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 1: I go where are you He's like, They're like, no,

714
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: I'm having a good time. I'm not even a hurry

715
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: to come back. And then he says, by the way,

716
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: the person you're talking to I really don't care about.

717
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: I really love the mom, his wife. I'm bonded to her.

718
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: She's my person. I bring that forward and she's listening

719
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 1: in it turns out and she immediately confirms. So I'm

720
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: hoping that he has enough of emotional bond for that

721
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: to sing to him and for him to want to

722
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: come back. But there is something I run into, and

723
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: this is a very very difficult type rope by walking.

724
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: That is exotics, iguanas, even fish and others that we

725
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 1: keep in a fairly unnatural setting. And with the parents, unfortunately,

726
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 1: they're very very communal instant they want to be in

727
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: a huge flock. I had this one bird I was

728
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: talking after his passing. He showed me him flying down

729
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 1: the Amazon with all these other birds, winked at the

730
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 1: wingtip and he's like, I'm finally able to do what

731
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: I was meant to do. So that's a really tough

732
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 1: area to be in, but you know, I have to

733
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 1: deal with those two. What an interesting conversation. How many

734
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: of us have pets around, even our outdoor furried and

735
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 1: feathered friends. What are they thinking? What do they know?

736
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: How are we going to add more love and make

737
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 1: sure we have a relationship with them? They are souls too. Well,

738
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: we'll hear more from Charles after the break, and who

739
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: knows what other fun things he hasn't stored for us.

740
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 1: You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the I

741
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Coast Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Keep

742
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: it here on the I Heart Radio and Coast to

743
00:39:56,040 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 1: Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Sander Champlain will be right

744
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: back before the Art belle Vall has classic audio waiting

745
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 1: for you now the Coast to Coast m dot com

746
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 1: for details. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm

747
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 1: Sanders Champlain and we are here with animal communicator Charles

748
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,280
Speaker 1: Peten and you can find him on his website Charles

749
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: Peten dot com. Charles, I wanted to ask you if

750
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: you think our souls have purposes and what is the

751
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 1: meaning of life? The message from the other side, if

752
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: there is a general consensus as far as why we're here,

753
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 1: it's to have the opportunity to take a step out

754
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: of a video game environment where there is no serious

755
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: consequence for your actions to a point where you can't

756
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: die on the other side, so there's no challenges. Like

757
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: if you're on a roller coaster where you feel like

758
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: you might be launched into space of a moment, you know,

759
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:24,399
Speaker 1: that's exciting. And when you're in a static environment where

760
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: there is no opportunity for loss or you have to

761
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: have loss in order to have gain, then it becomes boring.

762
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: It's not very exciting. There's no reason for being almost

763
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:42,839
Speaker 1: But I don't want to say entirely like that settle there,

764
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: but you know what I'm saying. They make it very

765
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,879
Speaker 1: clear that being here is an incredible gift, that there's

766
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: a high demand to come here, that those who come

767
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: here are aware of the difficult situations they're stepping into,

768
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 1: yet they're willing to take those odds and forward. Anyways,

769
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,760
Speaker 1: think about the child is being born into difficult conditions

770
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 1: in any third world country and in our own and

771
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: I have a firm belief that from my experience that

772
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,479
Speaker 1: they have a pretty good idea that that's about to happen,

773
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: and yet they're comfortable with it to the point where

774
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: they're like, well, you know, beach, haven't no shot at it.

775
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: I'll take it, play a lottery, Okay, Sure, let's see

776
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: what happens. And so it's a way for the soul

777
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 1: or for the spirit, to challenge itself and to grow

778
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 1: and to have these experiences that are visceral in the

779
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: sense that we wouldn't have them if we were not here.

780
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: So when you are on a video game in avatar

781
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:42,919
Speaker 1: mode or where you're invincible, the game is initially fun,

782
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: but then it becomes boring and loses its interest because

783
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 1: the stakes no longer are there. So I see a

784
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: great stream of continuity that runs through our life. And

785
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: it's not a set of a series of starts and

786
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: fits and stops and stuff like that. There's a lot

787
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: more continuity running through And people often times ask me

788
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: about reincarnation. I get asked about it every day. I

789
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: see where that may take place, but certainly not in

790
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: a time frame that people think. There's no situation that

791
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: I've run into yet where an animal has come back

792
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: to a person during your present lifetime after passing in

793
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: an initial body. And the reasons are numerous, one of

794
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,399
Speaker 1: them being do you remember your past life? Not so much?

795
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 1: Thank goodness, you don't. Can you imagine getting in a

796
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: brand new car and all of a sudden you get

797
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 1: a quarter mile down the road and check engine light

798
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 1: comes on. The windshields cracked, you can't see through it,

799
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:41,280
Speaker 1: the tires are all bald, transmission shot, and your turnaround,

800
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 1: you go back to dealership. Excuse me? Um, yeah, Mr

801
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 1: Car sells me. He sold me a London. He looks

802
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: at you, and last for a second, he goes, sir,

803
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: you have a brand new vehicle. You've really gotta let

804
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: that old vehicle get out of your head because it's

805
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 1: holding me that back. And you're like, oh, that's right,

806
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: it's brand new. I can actually look through the windshield again,

807
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: I don't have cataracts, and you're off and running. So

808
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: if we had all those past experiences with our physical

809
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: ailments coming in on our new one, let alone all

810
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: the materials from those relationships and so on and so forth.

811
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: They've become overwhelming, definitely, And so as a result, because

812
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: the vehicles that we have, they don't have an interface

813
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: that can handle the amount of information that we process

814
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: while in full spirit. As a result, we have a

815
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 1: safe mechanism a shields us from that so that we

816
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: can focus on this time around doing what we need

817
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: to do in this particular vehicle. If we were to

818
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 1: turn around and reincarnate while those individuals that we just

819
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 1: had that trip with we're still living, then we short

820
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 1: change the opportunity for back endclosure and for the opportunity

821
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: to watch over and guide them in spirit as they

822
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 1: continue to move forward prior to joining us. So that's

823
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: that's the next question I was going to ask you,

824
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 1: is when our days do come to depart this lifetime,

825
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: are we going to see again our pets and our people.

826
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,919
Speaker 1: Absolutely is one of the very first things that takes place.

827
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: And regardless of what time period they're from and regardless

828
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 1: of what the connection with the animal is, I've seen

829
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: them connecting with us. So I have a client who

830
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 1: she's going to be in her nineties and one of

831
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: the readings I did for her was actually in a

832
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 1: group setting where I had these rabbits come through and

833
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: they were shown to me as little pieces of rabbit

834
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 1: being cut up. I was a little bit perturbed. It

835
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 1: was like, oh, we got oh maybe we had to

836
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,760
Speaker 1: dog wate really well, and they've had the dog rabbit.

837
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,839
Speaker 1: I don't know, so I'm trying to figure that out.

838
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: And um, finally I just realized, Yeah, she's got rabbits

839
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 1: as she raised, and I need to address that. So

840
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: I bring it forward. And then I told her about

841
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 1: seeing them as food. She confirmed she raised animals for

842
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: food and they were rabbits, and that ever since that

843
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: I brought through her dog, she had been worried I

844
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: was going to bring through the rabbits because she had

845
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: guilt over them. And so the rabbits came through in

846
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: spirit and they said, hey, listen, please, we understood our

847
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: role when we came down here. We we were prey animals.

848
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: We had a sense that we weren't gonna last long.

849
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 1: It's it's a tough game, but you know, in the

850
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 1: long grand scheme of things, the way we went was

851
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 1: much preferable to a predator ripping you, apart to sickness,

852
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: to the elements and all these other things, and they said,

853
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: you know, at least it was quick and fairly humane.

854
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 1: I was like sitting there and kind of a shock,

855
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 1: going wow, I wasn't expecting to bring that through for someone.

856
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 1: That's kind of odd but comforting too. Well. It also

857
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,439
Speaker 1: makes me think of the animals that we actually eat,

858
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:36,280
Speaker 1: you know, our ground beef and millions and millions of them. Correct,

859
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 1: do they know what they're coming into? They do? See,

860
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,439
Speaker 1: I used to be a staunch vegetarian when I first

861
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: came into this. Yeah, I would. I would just guess

862
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: I can understand, and I'm gonna probably take off more

863
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 1: than a few people. But I'm not a staunch vegetarian

864
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 1: because all life feeds off of other life for the

865
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:58,879
Speaker 1: most part. It's the way it's set up down here.

866
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 1: And I subscribe to the Native American way of viewing things,

867
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 1: where everything has spirit, and I'm including rocks and creeks

868
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: and rivers and everything else. We could do a whole

869
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: nother show on that. They would honor the spirit of

870
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 1: the animal that had provided sustenance for them, and they

871
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: would make sure that they did not waste it, you know,

872
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 1: treat it with disrespect. So the relationship that they had

873
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 1: with their prey was much different than what we have

874
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 1: today today. It's such a sanitized version that you tell

875
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 1: a kid that McNuggets come from chickens, they're like, what

876
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 1: are you kidding me? Yeah, they don't put two and

877
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 1: two together, at least a lot of them don't. One

878
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:39,800
Speaker 1: of the big things I want to do is to

879
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 1: start to teach other people to do what I do,

880
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,760
Speaker 1: because it's not that difficult once you start to understand

881
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: the concepts they're employed and how to make that contact.

882
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 1: It's understanding the binary nature of the communication and understanding

883
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: that our mind is a viewing area for more than

884
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:03,479
Speaker 1: just our own and that when you have that song

885
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 1: coming through in your mind that you haven't heard for

886
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: a while, and all of thudden you're hearing sit on

887
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 1: the dock of a babe going, wait a minute, my

888
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 1: grandpa used to sing that song all the time. Grandpa

889
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,240
Speaker 1: is at you. And if you get a little pulsive

890
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: energy coming through when you say that, you start to

891
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 1: get tears welling up through you and you're going, wow,

892
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 1: I'm getting emotional. I can't even really put my finger

893
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: on it. But boy, Grandpa, and you say his name again,

894
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 1: you get this energy wash over you. Oh yeah, you're

895
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 1: a connecting with Grandpa. He's contacting you, Charles. This is amazing.

896
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 1: I'm just looking at the clock and it's time for

897
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 1: us to bring this episode to an end on Fortunately,

898
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: But a question, you know, just a personal question because

899
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: I could I well, it's not that personal. It's just

900
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 1: pretty much my aunt and I have suffered a lot

901
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 1: of loss in our family and with our pets, and

902
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 1: obviously we're across the country from you. Is can we

903
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 1: find a way to call in together and booking a

904
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,720
Speaker 1: point that that would certainly be not a problem. Okay,

905
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: I work worldwide, Um, I have clients in every single

906
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 1: corner of the globe pretty much every day. And well,

907
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: one thing we didn't talk about, and that is language barriers.

908
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 1: There is no barrier. Um. I've channeled in foreign languages,

909
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 1: Hebrew to Gallo, Cantonese, name of language I've spoken. I

910
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,399
Speaker 1: don't understand what I'm saying by just parrot what I'm

911
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: hearing from spirit. So there's all kinds of things that

912
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 1: are possible. Um. But yeah, certainly doing it regardless of

913
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 1: where you are in the world's not problem. We can

914
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: I love that conference. We could do it just a

915
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 1: regular conference. Um, we can do it in chat room.

916
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,879
Speaker 1: Makes no difference to me. You know. It's interesting because

917
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: even though I've done all the research I have about

918
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 1: life after death and talked to lots of people and

919
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:41,320
Speaker 1: heard these great stories, you know, I'm still human and

920
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: I have my doubts or down days or sad days,

921
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: and just you just boosted my spirits so much right now,

922
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 1: and it's just like it's just like a nice little

923
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 1: reminder that we don't die. This is real, you know,

924
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 1: and coptive you don't want it to be, yeah, exactly,

925
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: but but it elite does impact our lives. And even

926
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:06,879
Speaker 1: just the visceral experience you're talking about is just yeah,

927
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:11,439
Speaker 1: really feel or use our senses. And well, the first

928
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 1: thing that happened to me when it all took place,

929
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 1: when I had that first experience, it wasn't so much fear.

930
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 1: It was this wash of relief because my understanding, of course,

931
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: which a lot of people share, is that at death

932
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,800
Speaker 1: you snuff out and that's it. And I was scared

933
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 1: because it's like, well, geeve man, it means like you're

934
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 1: doing all this work and you can't save it. It's

935
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 1: like playing a video game where you don't have a

936
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 1: save mode. Did not like. And then I come to

937
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,280
Speaker 1: find out that there's an indelible record made of absolutely

938
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 1: anything and everything you ever do, some people call the

939
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:45,760
Speaker 1: Acosta record or whatever, and that that's accessible by anyone

940
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: else in spirit, and that they can read that, and

941
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 1: that there's this great sense of unity and a sense

942
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,760
Speaker 1: of family and togetherness, and when you return the spirit,

943
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 1: it's not a sterile environment, and that those who are

944
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 1: your ancestors come out of the would work and they

945
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 1: help you with the process of getting your feedback under you.

946
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 1: And we're not humans having spiritual experiences. We're spirits having

947
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: a human experience here. But I digress. I understand we are.

948
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: Our time is up. Any closing thoughts. It's killing me

949
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: because I don't want to hang up, but we're going

950
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 1: to UM. I think that the number one thing is

951
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:24,839
Speaker 1: for people to realize that if you dismiss your loved

952
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 1: one's attempts to connect with you as being chance or

953
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: coincidence and so on and so forth. Imagine if you will,

954
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 1: you're walking down the street, the phone rings, the phone,

955
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 1: you know, public pay phone. You pick it up. It's

956
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 1: Grandma they're an impostor they're just messing and you hang

957
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 1: it up, or you know that's just a coincidence and

958
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: someone else's the same name, And after a while they

959
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: stopped trying because if they're not getting through, why why

960
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 1: would you continue to waste your effort. So the more

961
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 1: that we accept or acknowledge that they a they exist,

962
00:51:56,800 --> 00:52:00,800
Speaker 1: be contact is real. See they can help us. The

963
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: more benefit that that understanding, the relationship that we can

964
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 1: develop with them will have on our lives. And they

965
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: can be really subtle messages coming through. It can be

966
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 1: very subtle and it can be very very overt. So

967
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 1: you know, it can be as simple as turn left,

968
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 1: don't turn right, and I do it, and I saved

969
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 1: my life because I turned right, I would have gotten keybone. Yes,

970
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 1: things like that, those things really do happen. Charles, thanks

971
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 1: so much. You're welcome. Of course, anybody can get ahold

972
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 1: of me at the Worldwide Web at Charles Keaton dot

973
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 1: com and come join us on one of our weekly

974
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:37,839
Speaker 1: psychic or medium classes at we Don't Die dot com.

975
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 1: This is Sandra Champlain and a warm thank you for

976
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 1: listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the I Heart

977
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 1: Radio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. And

978
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 1: if you like this episode of Shades of the Afterlife,

979
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,279
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980
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: listening to the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast

981
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:02,800
Speaker 1: d AM Paranormal Podcast Network.