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Speaker 1: Hey hello, hello, hello, Oh.
Speaker 2: My goodness, I'm feeling really smart today. This Marie and
Speaker 2: this is Sydney.
Speaker 1: I'm said a good mood.
Speaker 2: Yeah, why were you? Did you have a good week?
Speaker 1: It was that right? Oh okay, I'm just did you
Speaker 1: get some this morning?
Speaker 3: No, I'm just happy. Can a sister be happy? Shit?
Speaker 2: Something happened though? What made you happy?
Speaker 1: Anyways?
Speaker 3: This is the Unofficial Expert Podcast.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get to the bottom of this. Happy back
Speaker 1: to you, Marie.
Speaker 2: This joy uh Sidney? What were you an expert at
Speaker 2: this week? I was an expert at Curvin Brothers left
Speaker 2: and right?
Speaker 1: Well, what happened? Who did you curve? Well?
Speaker 2: I was on the train and this usually happens. I'm
Speaker 2: always looking at pictures, and I'm usually looking at pictures
Speaker 2: of what me and you because we always look so good,
Speaker 2: all of the lights, uh huh. And so I was
Speaker 2: looking at pictures that we took yesterday and this guy
Speaker 2: in this Sherberd colored button down was all in my
Speaker 2: phone and I'm listening to my music trying to just
Speaker 2: tune out him looking.
Speaker 3: But then he taps me and he's like, oh, what
Speaker 3: you cut your hair?
Speaker 1: It was so beautiful.
Speaker 2: He was talking about your hair and I was like, no,
Speaker 2: that's my friend. This is what my hair looks like
Speaker 2: right now. He's like, oh, well, you guys are beautiful.
Speaker 1: And then he slid right off the train. Now No.
Speaker 2: After that, he continued to have, you know, a conversation.
Speaker 1: Where are you from?
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah, And I was like, well, actually, what
Speaker 2: are you doing this Saturday? Me and my friend have
Speaker 2: a comedy show out. You should come. He's like, because
Speaker 2: he's from out of town, he's from North Carolina and
Speaker 2: he's living here now and he doesn't have any friends
Speaker 2: and he's twenty three.
Speaker 3: And I was like, perfect, you have nothing to do.
Speaker 3: You definitely should come.
Speaker 1: Literally nothing to do.
Speaker 2: So my foolish self gave him my contact information because
Speaker 2: I was like, anything for anything for the show, anything
Speaker 2: for the warm up. So he texted me right away
Speaker 2: and says, oh, did you make it home? And I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 2: what time was it that he asked you?
Speaker 3: If you mintioned was mad Earth?
Speaker 1: It was afternoon? Hey did you make it home? On?
Speaker 1: I know it's getting dark? Yeah.
Speaker 2: He's like this is Keenan and I'm like, oh god, Keenan.
Speaker 2: I can't even talk to a Keenan.
Speaker 1: But whatever. So he's asking all.
Speaker 2: These questions and then he's like, well, I'm gonna be upfront.
Speaker 3: Are you single? And then I sent him the flyer
Speaker 3: as a response because I'm.
Speaker 2: Like, I'm not going to ask that question because I
Speaker 2: want him to come to the show. So I sent
Speaker 2: it to him and he's like, oh, this is nice, Okay, cool,
Speaker 2: I'll come. I don't have any friends, Is it okay
Speaker 2: if I come? Buy myself? And I'm like sure, definitely come.
Speaker 2: And he's like, I like how you just ignored my
Speaker 2: question though, And I'm like, what am I gonna do?
Speaker 2: I just want him to come to the show and
Speaker 2: find out I'm gay. There I don't want to write
Speaker 2: via text I'm good, I'm into women. But he's like
Speaker 2: all in his feelings, you know, these doing he's all
Speaker 2: in his feeling. He's like, you know, I could take
Speaker 2: it if you if you're not into me, you could
Speaker 2: just tell me. And I'm like, okay, this is the
Speaker 2: very first, this is the inaugural text conversation. And you
Speaker 2: already crying all over your keyboard. You already pressed like
Speaker 2: apple juice, pressed apple juice all up on me. And
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, no, it's not that I'm gay and
Speaker 2: any rights.
Speaker 1: Well that's all you have to say.
Speaker 2: I feel like, listen, dude, a man, young, old, black, white,
Speaker 2: brown Chinese listening to this right now.
Speaker 1: If you ask a woman if she's.
Speaker 2: Single, and she ignored, she ignores your question, that's a
Speaker 2: no for you. Specifically, if she sends you a flyer
Speaker 2: of her comedy show, that means just come to the show.
Speaker 2: There are other women that you can talk to. It's
Speaker 2: gonna be so many women there that he's not even
Speaker 2: gonna think about me. I mean, he gonna see my
Speaker 2: set and be like, Wow, she's really a star. But
Speaker 2: there's nobody more confident than like like late teen's, early
Speaker 2: twenties black dude, even they could be the brokent person
Speaker 2: in the world, but they just want you to know
Speaker 2: that they are confident in their skills as a broke dude.
Speaker 2: He was so confident that they came out in a
Speaker 2: Sherbert button down with.
Speaker 3: What brown shoes.
Speaker 1: Pants?
Speaker 3: It all looked like, what is that sale? Rack?
Speaker 1: Old Navy? I thought it.
Speaker 2: Sounds like a Burlington cofactors.
Speaker 1: Verry answerned.
Speaker 3: He gave me intern vibes.
Speaker 1: But what you know what? He was really cute. He
Speaker 1: had all his teeth.
Speaker 2: I was fucking with it, but I definitely wasn't gonna
Speaker 2: pass them on to you, because that's.
Speaker 1: What I don't want him.
Speaker 2: He's twenty three and he ain't got no friends. You know,
Speaker 2: I ain't got no friends. So we're just gonna sit
Speaker 2: and talk about sorbet shirts.
Speaker 1: Nah, so you'd wait?
Speaker 2: So you just want to have somebody who has other
Speaker 2: friends so you can make friends of them. No, I
Speaker 2: don't want to make more friends. I want you to
Speaker 2: leave me alone. If you ain't got no friends, you're
Speaker 2: gonna be in my face all the time.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 2: And you know I don't want to see a dude
Speaker 2: every day, just like check in on Thursdays and maybe
Speaker 2: like Sunday mornings before church, Like don't I don't need
Speaker 2: you in my face all of the time. Oh my god,
Speaker 2: So I'm being honest to you. You're always honest, you
Speaker 2: never hold back, and you're an expert at telling it
Speaker 2: like it is. Speaking of not holding back, this week,
Speaker 2: I was an expert at falling asleep on the train
Speaker 2: all messy, Like I'm one of these people that, like,
Speaker 2: I was always afraid to fall asleep on the train
Speaker 2: because I don't like First of all, I don't like
Speaker 2: people watching me when I sleep, because I sleep super cute.
Speaker 2: But I also so don't like, you know, like people
Speaker 2: just fall asleep and then not knowing where I'm at.
Speaker 2: But I've been really tired because we're not abed.
Speaker 1: I ain't got no money.
Speaker 2: I had my fraid somebody might take my unlimited mentally
Speaker 2: metro car. That's the one thing that's my most prized possession.
Speaker 2: Been one hundred and sixteen dollars for that car, and
Speaker 2: I just got it two days ago.
Speaker 1: So I uh.
Speaker 2: I woke up on the terrain yesterday, mouth was definitely open,
Speaker 2: head was definitely on the dude's shoulder right next to me.
Speaker 3: I was like, ooh, sorry, you got mad hair.
Speaker 2: I don't know how he allowed that, like you leaning
Speaker 2: on my shoulder, totally fine.
Speaker 3: That hair on my shoulder, no, thank you.
Speaker 2: I mean it was tucked in, you know, it was
Speaker 2: like it was tucked but still like I woke up
Speaker 2: and like I feel like this side of my head spells.
Speaker 1: Like his cologne.
Speaker 2: Still, so anyway, we're dating now, that's my man.
Speaker 3: Do you usually fall asleep on people's shoulder.
Speaker 2: No, I'm a straight I'm a straight up and down
Speaker 2: sleep Like I'll fall asleep and then wake up and
Speaker 2: just like it'll be keep your head up with all
Speaker 2: that hair, I just I lean back. You had to
Speaker 2: tilt the whole situation back and use the wall as
Speaker 2: your as your shoulder asleep. Ony, Whenever I do that,
Speaker 2: I look like a dead body. So I can't that's right,
Speaker 2: because the gravity is pulling your your loose skin all
Speaker 2: the way down.
Speaker 3: But fu shady, I hate you.
Speaker 1: I think gravity is a real thing.
Speaker 3: So you're telling me that my face is falling off.
Speaker 2: I mean you are a woman of a particular. I
Speaker 2: literally can't stand you, and I just want you know what, Well,
Speaker 2: tell me fall asleep on somebody.
Speaker 1: I hope they just cut your hair.
Speaker 2: Well, you know what this hair is it will regenerate
Speaker 2: thicker and shinier. So I'm really oh no, don't worry
Speaker 2: about it. Cut it, cut it, cut it.
Speaker 3: That's what I want. Happened to you?
Speaker 1: That's fine. Anyways, I was really smart. I did.
Speaker 2: I killed it this week in sleeping on the train.
Speaker 2: And you know, now, I put less's one at night,
Speaker 2: so people don't see. Their eyes are closed, but my
Speaker 2: mouth is starting to open.
Speaker 1: So it's crazy. But you're just gonna look like a
Speaker 1: blind woman. Just I'm just looking.
Speaker 2: Like Georgia, Georgia, what kind of SECONDSS do you have on?
Speaker 1: Whatever?
Speaker 2: My purse sometimes definitely make you look like you're blind
Speaker 2: if you don't have one, the ones that don't even
Speaker 2: have any lenses in them, I can't with you.
Speaker 3: You're a hot Cheetos mess.
Speaker 2: And speaking speaking of hot Cheetos, we have a hot
Speaker 2: Cheeto in the studio right now. Oh my goodness, my
Speaker 2: favorite Cheeto in the whole wide world.
Speaker 1: Listen.
Speaker 2: I've known this woman for so long. I absolutely adore her.
Speaker 2: She is legendary, legendary. She is our go go dancer
Speaker 2: expert for the for the day, giving.
Speaker 1: Up for le Marie Perez. Hello, how you doing?
Speaker 3: Lee?
Speaker 1: I am great.
Speaker 3: You are giving us fly girl a realness right now?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Is this is this a vintage blazer? You out already? Yes, Jennifer,
Speaker 2: is that a What is that A that's thrifted to?
Speaker 1: Oh? That's a tak top. Okay, But this little number
Speaker 1: I got it in in a story of Queens. It's
Speaker 1: a it's a little show, a little store called Love
Speaker 1: Day thirty one. It's one of my favorite chops. A
Speaker 1: it's a consignment shop.
Speaker 2: Queen's Yeah, because I I love a consignment shop, but
Speaker 2: I'm not into the queen's aspect of that.
Speaker 3: Yes, she likes to stay in Brooklyn and Manhattan.
Speaker 1: I wasn't neither until I ran into the shop. Do
Speaker 1: you live lives across the streets?
Speaker 2: So okay, Oh yeah, well let's go visit Issa and
Speaker 2: go to this consignment shops whose house?
Speaker 1: I was that for her birthday for Jennifer's Berlin. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It was cute, little little house they had like they
Speaker 1: had cheese and me and they had you know, I
Speaker 1: love a sharkoutere board. Okay, and they have that the
Speaker 1: bar downstairs. That's right, but we're not paying for that.
Speaker 2: So anyway, you are a legendary go go dancer.
Speaker 1: You are a performer, you are everything.
Speaker 2: I feel like this outfit that you have on is
Speaker 2: putting on a show. Okay, let's let's start up. She
Speaker 2: got the consignment blazer on. It's three big buttons, it's
Speaker 2: black and white. It's very Marge Simpson Chanelle suit episode.
Speaker 1: She's got a red lip.
Speaker 2: She has a red lip. The hair is curly, and
Speaker 2: it's giving me like.
Speaker 1: A three bee vibe. I don't know what you know
Speaker 1: what your curtness.
Speaker 2: No, she doesn't okay, and she has on like a
Speaker 2: shredded distressed gene.
Speaker 1: Yes, you remember these.
Speaker 2: Sydney I remember, Oh I'm here for those listened to. No.
Speaker 3: We went to an event, went to a party that
Speaker 3: she was dancing at.
Speaker 2: You.
Speaker 3: I was working for pa she was working for Pasha.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: She wore those with no stockings on. So the athletes
Speaker 2: were all out. We took a fairy. We took a
Speaker 2: faerry to Governor's Island. This bitch was already drunk. She
Speaker 2: had you know, the Chinese. The Chinese restaurant put iced
Speaker 2: tea that big jug I think so the container yeah,
Speaker 2: because yes said they.
Speaker 1: Put like soup in Yeah. Everything she had the big styrofoam.
Speaker 2: Yes, she had no, no, no, she had the Southern on.
Speaker 2: She had a Southern comfort in it. That's it. Soco
Speaker 2: Soco at like ten a m was it was there
Speaker 2: anything in it?
Speaker 1: Might have been Soco and Coca cola. No, I was
Speaker 1: Soco and iced tea. Yeah, yo, I haven't had Southern
Speaker 1: Comfort since two thousand and nine.
Speaker 3: So we pick her up.
Speaker 2: She had on like a sheer top as well, the
Speaker 2: nipple out, the mask was out. I was like, Lee,
Speaker 2: you want to go back upstairs. She's like, girl, I'm grown.
Speaker 1: I'm grown. I'm grown. Just when I'm wearing.
Speaker 3: I was like, okay. So we get to Governor's Island.
Speaker 2: She's dancing and prants and with her ass cheeks out,
Speaker 2: she like has a bruise.
Speaker 3: On her ass.
Speaker 1: At that what she she fell?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: What did wabody smacked you? I don't know. She was
Speaker 1: probably you know because working working in the ninety and
Speaker 1: you always bumping and falling, and we're into that dressing
Speaker 1: up the performer.
Speaker 3: She definitely just bumped into a building.
Speaker 1: Costumes and you know you're bound to get tons of bruises.
Speaker 3: But we were there for nine hours.
Speaker 2: This girl, this woman as cheeks just flapping everywhere. Everybody
Speaker 2: else was.
Speaker 3: Well there was go go dancers in like outfits, but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean a lot of people. I mean it's
Speaker 1: the middle of the summer. It was one of those
Speaker 1: governments island. You don't even have a shirt cut around the.
Speaker 3: Waist, nothing.
Speaker 1: And then Aceteria is right after Yes, we went to actually.
Speaker 2: Because you know, everybody listening don't know what that's a
Speaker 2: cafeteria where you get as.
Speaker 1: Acetaria was created by Rob Fernandez May he rest in peace,
Speaker 1: genius UH and he he started that off. It was
Speaker 1: a spin off of an old club called dance Ateria. Okay,
Speaker 1: So Robbed, the genius that he was and also obsessed with,
Speaker 1: was like, I'm going to start my own night called
Speaker 1: Aceteria and we were like okay, and then he just
Speaker 1: you know, he took it from there and he was
Speaker 1: having the event at UH on forty second Street.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I forgot that.
Speaker 1: The only location that I think was at I was
Speaker 1: right in the middle of right in the middle of
Speaker 1: like Times Square, literally like one block away, and lo
Speaker 1: and behold, Aceteria was born. And so anything that had
Speaker 1: to do with ass or costumes, with ass or you've
Speaker 1: seen a lot of ass. There Anthony and Lamar wearing
Speaker 1: his ass out talking about ass and all the.
Speaker 2: Different dancers had big asses that were performing nose.
Speaker 1: Because I did, I.
Speaker 2: Did, I was Sydney was one of our ASS guest hosts.
Speaker 1: I dance Ti. I did have an ass at that time.
Speaker 1: Didn't you still have an ass? Determined? That was a lot?
Speaker 3: There's a lot.
Speaker 2: You ain't got the lie, Chris, So you were out
Speaker 2: and I've been to Government's Island.
Speaker 1: It's beautiful when they have these big events. I mean
Speaker 1: I could get messy though, because it's it's a lot
Speaker 1: going on in those events. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Limeray, it's
Speaker 1: bridging tunnel meat, drags, trainy meat, a pro funk everything.
Speaker 1: It sounds like it sounds really hot, yeah, all kinds
Speaker 1: of things, super sweaty.
Speaker 2: So Limeri, we want to quiz you, not quizz you,
Speaker 2: but we want to pick your brain about go go dancing.
Speaker 2: How long have you been in the nightlife scene?
Speaker 1: So let's see. I want to say I started in
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 3: Isn't that when you were born? Marie?
Speaker 2: That sounds right, that sounds just about right. Can you
Speaker 2: tell us what go go dancing is? Because I feel
Speaker 2: like some people, like everybody knows what a stripper is, right,
Speaker 2: so what is a go go dancer?
Speaker 1: So a go go dancer is uh, well, we'd like
Speaker 1: to say they're a trained dancer, but you don't have
Speaker 1: to be a trained dancer. Because if Sydney was or
Speaker 1: Misty Coplan.
Speaker 2: This early oh okay, okay, Sydney might have tooken it
Speaker 2: taken in alcany dance.
Speaker 1: Of course. I went to prep school. Okay, So it's.
Speaker 2: A they're they're usually trained there.
Speaker 1: They're usually trained dancers or somewhat have some kind of
Speaker 1: background and dance and uh, they're well fit. Uh they
Speaker 1: for the most part, they know how to put their
Speaker 1: outfits together, do their own makeup, and have some sort
Speaker 1: of character of their own. Uh that's me, That's all
Speaker 1: I mean. I mean, I don't know about putting out
Speaker 1: the yes. So, you know, a lot of the dancers
Speaker 1: may have some ballet background, some of them may know
Speaker 1: how to vogue, some of them the gymnastics, some of
Speaker 1: you did you know any do you have any of
Speaker 1: that background? I did your massics when I was younger,
Speaker 1: and Vogan that just kind of that just kind of
Speaker 1: came in in the course of time as a dancer,
Speaker 1: you sort of build up different skills the longer year
Speaker 1: in the career.
Speaker 3: But because you can make a career at it, you can.
Speaker 1: Definitely make a career out of it. I paid my
Speaker 1: way through college and you don't have to take all
Speaker 1: I mean, you sound like you never had clothes on. Well,
Speaker 1: I've never had to take my clothes off. But you
Speaker 1: guys were I do accept tips. You guys were in pasty.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it really depends on the demands of the events,
Speaker 1: so you know you're wearing anywhere from a full on
Speaker 1: kat suit and a headdress to like something as small
Speaker 1: as a little tiny g string and some pasties. As
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, when I first met Jennifer, it
Speaker 1: was Thanksgiving Eve.
Speaker 3: Jennifer is another legendary goog legendary.
Speaker 1: It was Thanksgiving Eve. Don't ask me what year because
Speaker 1: I know Jennifer now for twelve years. Okay, so I
Speaker 1: don't know do the math. Anyways, I met her, uh
Speaker 1: it tunnel and we Marie was born, but I remember Tunnel, Yeah, Tunnel, Okay.
Speaker 1: So Tunnel, Limelight and Palladium were all owned by Peter Gaishin,
Speaker 1: who was the biggest night club owner at the time,
Speaker 1: and Tona was more of a kind of drum and
Speaker 1: bassed techno vibe. That like that kind of environment where
Speaker 1: they would have a hood or hip hop party on
Speaker 1: a Friday night. I wouldn't know my cup of tea.
Speaker 1: You don't like the hood clubs, you don't like hip hop,
Speaker 1: not at that time, honey Slavery, I didn't know that
Speaker 1: about you. I do like some hip hop, but I
Speaker 1: don't prefer working those events.
Speaker 2: Okay, I would sit, yeah, working working those events first,
Speaker 2: listening to the music at home.
Speaker 1: And yeah, this is a different different Are you serious?
Speaker 1: You've been to the hood nights? The hood club night
Speaker 1: people are super.
Speaker 2: Aggressive, popping though the music is popping. But she doesn't
Speaker 2: want to work.
Speaker 1: I don't don't. I don't work good nights. No, she
Speaker 1: what's up? My mom? You gonna take a pants of
Speaker 1: one child to the No, she ain't even tickles all
Speaker 1: the titties, like.
Speaker 2: Exactly like I gave her a dollar.
Speaker 1: She didna shake nothing exactly. She shook my hands so
Speaker 1: exactly right.
Speaker 2: No Friday night tunnel, no Friday night tones for me.
Speaker 1: I would just prefer, you know, the sweating, messy bridging
Speaker 1: tunnel they're aggressive to they got there, but they give
Speaker 1: you a space because they're in their own world, you
Speaker 1: know the.
Speaker 2: AKA they high, Yeah, they are high.
Speaker 1: But going back to meeting Jennifer, so uh and talking
Speaker 1: about costumes. The first night that I had met Jennifer,
Speaker 1: it was Thanksgiving night and she was my partner and
Speaker 1: I had never met her before, but I had heard
Speaker 1: a lot about her. And I was putting on my
Speaker 1: costume and she was like, so, what are you wearing?
Speaker 1: And I was like, I got my little office. I
Speaker 1: pulled them on and show her. She was like, oh,
Speaker 1: it was very much my little little tiny g string
Speaker 1: with a flap of like leather, shredded leather, you know.
Speaker 1: Like I was giving a little Pocahon tess ala with
Speaker 1: some little feathered pasties that I made myself. And then
Speaker 1: we had like you know, some travel makeup and stuff,
Speaker 1: and I did this big mohawk with some feathers and
Speaker 1: them and stuff. It was and she was like oh,
Speaker 1: and I was like it's okay, honey, I have one
Speaker 1: for you too. You're like, wait, what was she wearing?
Speaker 1: But she was wearing I paired her up because she
Speaker 1: was my partner, so she had to wear that outfit
Speaker 1: she came together. But let me tell you something. You know,
Speaker 1: how snatched her her body is? Her body is snatch snatched,
Speaker 1: snack like our glass has nothing on Jennifer's body.
Speaker 3: It's ridiculous back in the day and right now, right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so her and I wear these like really sexy
Speaker 1: Indian kind of poke hanness characters. Now you've traveled all
Speaker 1: over dancing, I have. I've been very, very privileged with
Speaker 1: my career as a dancer. So let's see, I what's.
Speaker 2: The most interesting place you've gone because of dancing?
Speaker 1: I would say Biza. Working for Manumission. I worked with
Speaker 1: them for two years in a row. My first year
Speaker 1: with them, well, the way I got recruited to work
Speaker 1: with them, I was in the lesbian scene, doing cabaret
Speaker 1: burless type of shows for Were you a lesbian? No?
Speaker 1: I was not.
Speaker 3: Did you have ye?
Speaker 1: No? I did not, livery never never, never even kissed
Speaker 1: the girl. No. I might have kissed the girl, but
Speaker 1: none of those girls.
Speaker 2: Okay, somebody they got lesbian. You know, every girl's kissed
Speaker 2: the girl. I'm not gonna lie. I've kissed the girl
Speaker 2: my cup of tea.
Speaker 1: And they they definitely still embraced me as a performer
Speaker 1: and I got mad respect. I created a name for
Speaker 1: myself in the lesbian scene. Some of the parties that
Speaker 1: I worked for was called Love a Girl and Hershey Bar.
Speaker 1: It was owned by this promoter. Her name was Caroline.
Speaker 1: She came to London, so you went to Ibiza. So
Speaker 1: while I was working for one of these uh burlesque
Speaker 1: lesbian parties, I at the time, I was working at
Speaker 1: Wonderbar and was doing these little skits and the the
Speaker 1: talent agent that had hired me for that was like, listen,
Speaker 1: there is a couple and any Biza and they have
Speaker 1: this this party going on out there in Spain and
Speaker 1: they need dancers. They need to put together their group
Speaker 1: called the Pink Pussies.
Speaker 3: And it was like, I was like, somebody went up
Speaker 3: to you.
Speaker 2: So there's a couple in another country they got a party.
Speaker 1: Called Pussy How much to pay? Okay? And I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: that sounds fun, you know. And the way she reeled
Speaker 1: me in is because she also knew another dancer that
Speaker 1: I also know untrusted, and her name was Irene and
Speaker 1: she ended up does not sound like a dancer name
Speaker 1: sounds like legendary I'm gonna see her in a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks. Actually, we're about to have a reunion. Irene.
Speaker 2: We need to see pictures of this yes show.
Speaker 1: I brought some. Oh yeah, you have a box of
Speaker 1: pictures of stuff.
Speaker 2: Irene sounds like the person who like calls the police
Speaker 2: because they're like, there's a loud party going on across
Speaker 2: the shrim And.
Speaker 1: That wasn't her stage name, so as a as A
Speaker 1: as a pink pussy her stage mane. So you had
Speaker 1: I was damn pussy. That was damn damn pussy, like
Speaker 1: damn like damn damn. Then you had Slye pussy, snake pussy, snake, what.
Speaker 3: Is a snake pussy?
Speaker 1: Well, because snake pussy. And I won't mention her name
Speaker 1: because she's she's still working. Yeah, so, but she it
Speaker 1: was the way she moved like a snake, Like she
Speaker 1: moved like a snake. And then you had shy pussy
Speaker 1: because she was very shy. But that was something very
Speaker 1: coy about her. And then you had sis and I
Speaker 1: think I think I think Irene was slide pussy. Irene
Speaker 1: was sly I might have been slide pussy. Don't quote
Speaker 1: me on that, but when I see her.
Speaker 2: I'll let you know, anytime I meet somebody named Irina
Speaker 2: might be like, oh my god, slop pussy.
Speaker 1: Okay, excuse me, okay. And then we had little pink shirts.
Speaker 1: It said pink Pussys. And this was before the pink
Speaker 1: puss Okay for the record, Okay, okay, you.
Speaker 3: Put you heard it first on an unofficial experts So the.
Speaker 1: Couple they the name of the company was Manumission, and
Speaker 1: they were known for doing these very exotic, erotic parties
Speaker 1: and they were very creative and the entire well just yes,
Speaker 1: I mean they have a way of doing performances. Let's
Speaker 1: just put it that way.
Speaker 2: Girl, you got you got some cli, I do have some,
Speaker 2: you got some clips.
Speaker 1: I have a flyer. So I have a flyer where
Speaker 1: Mike and Claire that's their name. The Yeah, I got
Speaker 1: a very creative. So what they do is they plan
Speaker 1: out an entire summer and it's plotted against the theme. Okay,
Speaker 1: So our first uh themed summer was based on a
Speaker 1: motel that they bought in Spain. And the motel used
Speaker 1: to be an old brothel. Yes, of course it did.
Speaker 1: So they had this idea where they created a murder
Speaker 1: and manumission. Okay, so yes, I'm sorry, I'm.
Speaker 2: Going to a country that I don't know where they
Speaker 2: speak a language I don't speak for a murder party
Speaker 2: and the literate.
Speaker 1: And your name is Pink Pussy. No, my my name
Speaker 1: was Dan Pussy. But where under the Pink Pussy clan?
Speaker 1: Like murder?
Speaker 2: This sounds like this sounds like an international law and order.
Speaker 1: It really is. It really is a la erotic that's
Speaker 1: what the special hctor. Yeah. So basically, each each weekend
Speaker 1: there was a murder that would happen and what and
Speaker 1: it was all plotted in the manumission motel and it
Speaker 1: was sort of like, okay, what is this interesting? It's
Speaker 1: like Clue with pussy, Yes exactly. And so the flyer
Speaker 1: was designed. So they hired all these porn stars. Do
Speaker 1: you have the fire with you right now? I have
Speaker 1: one of the flyers, but I don't have. They hired
Speaker 1: a bunch of porn stars for the fly They hired
Speaker 1: a bunch of points stars that they did photo shoots with.
Speaker 1: So the each porn star would have a different scenario,
Speaker 1: you know, like they killed but you weren't. You weren't.
Speaker 1: I was not a porn star they hired the porn
Speaker 1: stars for the flyers. So when you open up the flyer,
Speaker 1: their legs open up and there's like a murder scene.
Speaker 1: I was like a pop out.
Speaker 2: Yes for my next birthday, I think I'm going to
Speaker 2: do this.
Speaker 1: You want a murder pussy party or you want to
Speaker 1: pop up flyer.
Speaker 3: I want to pop up flyer.
Speaker 1: I think you should do both.
Speaker 2: A pussy murder party.
Speaker 1: Clue isles So how is the set up?
Speaker 2: You're you were working this burlesque show and somebody told
Speaker 2: you about the party and then they fly you out
Speaker 2: there for the whole summer.
Speaker 1: How much money did you make exactly? We need? I
Speaker 1: was making about a thousand dollars a week. That's cute
Speaker 1: back then too. Back then, yeah, wow, I didn't pay
Speaker 1: for room and board, so you don't have to pay
Speaker 1: for anything exactly. I didn't have to pay for my flights,
Speaker 1: and you know we were taken care of.
Speaker 3: That's so you saved your money pretty much being.
Speaker 1: There somewhat she was. I had to pay rent. I
Speaker 1: had to send my rent back home. I mean I
Speaker 1: already gave up that apart he didn't exist.
Speaker 2: Then you couldn't like you have somebody stay there and
Speaker 2: pay the rent.
Speaker 1: So I mean I saved some money, but because I
Speaker 1: was paying rent and bills still it was a little
Speaker 1: far fetched.
Speaker 3: So you went to visa, you came back.
Speaker 1: This is some pictures here of this is two thousand
Speaker 1: and eight. You'll probably recognize some people on there. Look
Speaker 1: how skinny you were. You had eight I had. I
Speaker 1: was a fit mom, your body was sick the same.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2: So you come back from a visa, so and then
Speaker 2: you're like, bam, this is my life.
Speaker 1: I want to do this. I mean I had already
Speaker 1: started my career prior to it. That's why I was
Speaker 1: sent out there. But it was very exciting, a great
Speaker 1: experience at the time, being in Spain that a lot
Speaker 1: of people knew who a Puerto Rican was, so that
Speaker 1: was kind of interesting. They kept confusing me to Cuban
Speaker 1: because the Cuban flag and the Puerto Rican flag the Ukubana.
Speaker 1: Cubana was like, no, I'm Puerto Rican.
Speaker 2: And then like something like sometime sometimes sometimes sameza, Well
Speaker 2: who's who came help with the flag? First Porto Cuba. Uh,
Speaker 2: you know what, I don't know because somebody copies somebody.
Speaker 1: She said, we could talk about go go dancing. I
Speaker 1: don't know about an expert and when that flag is founded.
Speaker 1: So you came back from a Za.
Speaker 3: I met you in Pasha, which was like a legendary sound.
Speaker 2: I feel like I feel like we're rushing past Eliza.
Speaker 2: I want to know more about a.
Speaker 1: Well, here's the flyer of Mike and Claire. This was
Speaker 1: another event that they did. So Clara got pregnant. Oh
Speaker 1: Claire was it? Michael was pregnant. No, and they created
Speaker 1: they created another event based on her pregnancy where she
Speaker 1: lays the egg once a week and the egg catches
Speaker 1: the event. Is Michael a midget.
Speaker 2: No, that is the creative director of the company, and
Speaker 2: that's Claria. This fire is sassy, that amazing with her
Speaker 2: legs up and then she and she puts it and
Speaker 2: there's a golden egg coming out.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Clara and she got on like some sexy slippers. I
Speaker 2: can't the furry slippers that Marie got but in white
Speaker 2: is he were in a Fela.
Speaker 1: Puma Listen, I feel like that's the case. Swiss. Here's
Speaker 1: a write up on us as the pink everybody. So,
Speaker 1: so you literally just part of the whole summer. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then the bag will kind of show you a
Speaker 1: couple of Like.
Speaker 2: It sounds there were a bunch of drugs. I see
Speaker 2: a lot of there's a lot going.
Speaker 1: On, Anybiza, did you got there's a lot of nudist
Speaker 1: beach which I definitely took advantage of the body and
Speaker 1: very free spirited.
Speaker 2: So you come back to New York and you're like,
Speaker 2: I gotta live in a regular house and put my
Speaker 2: clothes back on? How like, how crazy is that?
Speaker 1: Well, coming back to New York, it was sort of
Speaker 1: a reality check because I'm like, am I going to
Speaker 1: be a dancer for the rest of my life? Like,
Speaker 1: you know, is there a plan? B you know what
Speaker 1: if I break a leg? You know you started thinking
Speaker 1: about because you ain't got no pink pussy in sure? Yeah,
Speaker 1: because you got sure that pussy and that ass exactly Okay.
Speaker 1: So I decided to go back to school and that's
Speaker 1: why I went into b MCC and I finished. I
Speaker 1: finished being BMCC is bored of Manhattan Community College.
Speaker 2: Oh I think BMCC was Brooklyn Manhattan Community COMMONEMI.
Speaker 1: So you went there and had I had already done
Speaker 1: two years, but I needed to continue my education. So
Speaker 1: I got Okay, you are smart dancer. Well what did
Speaker 1: you go to school for? I went to school for
Speaker 1: dance in theater, So.
Speaker 2: You went to school for what you were doing already?
Speaker 3: Look at you, listen.
Speaker 1: It's all the proof that you can go for school
Speaker 1: for the arts and they'll make a career and pay
Speaker 1: always way through college and they.
Speaker 3: Should put you on one of those Biqua College.
Speaker 1: The Hispanic scholarship. Fun, I got a scholarship? What Coca
Speaker 1: Cola gave me a scholarship? I didn't know that at all.
Speaker 1: Michelot gave me a scholarship. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: Is there a Haitian American she got all her edges scholarship?
Speaker 2: Because I feel like I will apply tonight. Is there's
Speaker 2: just a scholarship where you could just be yourself and
Speaker 2: be the person that you are and like get something
Speaker 2: for that.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're making a certain amount of
Speaker 1: money below a certain so wait, I gotta be broke
Speaker 1: and myself, you know, yourself is pretty rough and insane anyway.
Speaker 2: So Lee Marie, I met you and Pasha Yes, which
Speaker 2: used to be Sound Factory, which used to be Crowbar.
Speaker 2: So these are all different clubs that are different.
Speaker 1: I don't know what what Sound Factory was before Sound
Speaker 1: Factory became Sound Factory. I don't think it was a
Speaker 1: club before then. These were these were clubs.
Speaker 2: That's kind of like considered Studio fifty four ish ish ishka.
Speaker 1: Yes, I would have to say that Sound Factory was
Speaker 1: stemmed from Sound Factory Bar, which at the time it
Speaker 1: was located downtown. Don't quote me on the nobody know
Speaker 1: the location. That's it's okay, booth the street. But it
Speaker 1: was a really happening night and it was all like
Speaker 1: deep House.
Speaker 2: Okay, can you please explain deep house because deep house
Speaker 2: for me is baby powder.
Speaker 1: On the floor and me rolling on it. You're you're,
Speaker 1: you're along the ways. Yes, that's deep. That's not like
Speaker 1: a waste of baby powder.
Speaker 3: No, no, no.
Speaker 1: The Johnson and Johnson poppy. Yeah, it's Bobby, It's okay.
Speaker 1: It's very heavy and dancing. Girl. It's a shame for
Speaker 1: the bars because they don't really drink, no.
Speaker 2: Because they're on all that Miley well, that ecstasy they taken.
Speaker 2: They gotta keep their throats moisturize. Well, let me tell
Speaker 2: you I was drinking. I wasn't doing Molly when I
Speaker 2: was in on the deep housey. Well, actually I'm lying
Speaker 2: so anyway, Molly uh to cintegrate into the drink and
Speaker 2: then you would drink the mommy.
Speaker 1: So I'm lying anyway. By water, I met you and.
Speaker 3: Pasha and you were creative director there.
Speaker 1: I was creative director there. So before Pasha though, it
Speaker 1: was Sound Factory, and I had a very good run
Speaker 1: with Sound Factory.
Speaker 3: Did I saw all those videos?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Can you do? You have an old flyer to show
Speaker 1: I Sound Factory used to have shows, shows on shows
Speaker 1: they have like an Alison Wonderland theme. They had so
Speaker 1: many themes.
Speaker 2: And you guys have to make your own costumes for
Speaker 2: all of these themes.
Speaker 1: Well, Sound Factory had a creative director. His name was
Speaker 1: Raffi mcgada. He is the founder and creator of Hussein
Speaker 1: mcgado Entertainment, which is still a running, a running entertainment group.
Speaker 1: Is that you This is me for one of the events.
Speaker 1: Get out of this, little miss muffet. Look at the
Speaker 1: penis mushrooms.
Speaker 2: Stop, I'm sorry penis mushrooms.
Speaker 1: You better?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I want some o.
Speaker 1: Those are legit mushrooms. Oh. My factory uh was a
Speaker 1: very special place.
Speaker 2: It was six eighteen West forty sixth Street in case
Speaker 2: you guys were wondering where Sound Factory was, and the
Speaker 2: number at the time was two and two forty nine.
Speaker 2: If you want to call and see nobody picking sound
Speaker 2: Factory dot com, we'll be picking up South Factory.
Speaker 1: Sound Factory was founded by Richard Grant and he remember
Speaker 1: all these people's name, Yeah, well, because they're all legendary,
Speaker 1: you know, people that played a very important role in
Speaker 1: my life. You see that, Marie. I need to remember the.
Speaker 2: People who play an important role in my life. I
Speaker 2: don't remember them.
Speaker 1: And that's why you are who you are. Thank you,
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: You know, coming here and having to go through all
Speaker 1: my scrap books and all this memorabilia, and you know,
Speaker 1: it made me think about what what legacy means, and
Speaker 1: I'd come up with you know, your legacy is not
Speaker 1: only determined by how many people support you, but but
Speaker 1: how much of a difference you make those lives. Do
Speaker 1: you hear the bars that she's sitting here? Ym Wow?
Speaker 1: So everyone here, Richard Grant, Coffee, Megado, Mike and Claire Irene, Jennifer.
Speaker 1: These are all important figures in my life that we
Speaker 1: have shared. And you know, mind many gems and you know,
Speaker 1: made differences and I'll go through go go dancing, performing
Speaker 1: costume designers and also evolved. You guys have gone through
Speaker 1: a lot. You're taking a bunch of drugs together. They
Speaker 1: all seem.
Speaker 2: Pussy craziest, craziest night like the night that all you
Speaker 2: people can remember that are like, yo.
Speaker 1: I can't believe we didn't die.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what night is that?
Speaker 1: But there's so many of them. Well, I remember the
Speaker 1: story that you guys always would talk about how you
Speaker 1: would be at aceteria and this drag queen or transvestite
Speaker 1: or whatever came for you or oria. I don't know.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of stories like that at Esteria.
Speaker 3: Because you know we're are battling trans Yes.
Speaker 1: Those Chinese were always coming for us because they thought
Speaker 1: we were tranning.
Speaker 2: Okay, well tranny is not a PC word. Just putting
Speaker 2: that out there on the podcast, we don't. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: have to correct because there will be somebody who that
Speaker 2: will write, hey, hey, hey, so what is that what
Speaker 2: we used to call them?
Speaker 1: It was? But now you know, we have to be doing.
Speaker 3: We have to racket.
Speaker 2: And I feel like when people say it, it's not
Speaker 2: because like they're trying to be disrespectful, like you don't
Speaker 2: have any problem with people.
Speaker 1: Who are trans.
Speaker 2: You're just that that's what she like, that's what we
Speaker 2: used to. I'm sure there's somebody who's like, I didn't
Speaker 2: think nigga was a bad word. Well that person, that person.
Speaker 1: I don't want to be slept by a trans and
Speaker 1: I get out of here. You know the club. Yes,
Speaker 1: the un official expert Razor comes out. Huh, homegirl's eyes.
Speaker 3: I don't want I don't.
Speaker 1: Want you to get a buck fifty on that beautiful face.
Speaker 2: But no, there's just any story that you think that
Speaker 2: would be popping on the unofficial expert that we could
Speaker 2: all be, well.
Speaker 1: You would, you would appreciate this. So we Jennifer and
Speaker 1: I was working at this club called Systems and it
Speaker 1: was just kind of a you know, a regular freelance
Speaker 1: go go night. So freelance means, you know, you're on
Speaker 1: a box, the DJ just playing the music and you're
Speaker 1: just being creative and plan, you know, dancing towards whatever
Speaker 1: the music and doing whatever you want. Yeah, freestyle and
Speaker 1: you are a queen. Freestyle I am, I am. You
Speaker 1: know it takes practice, it's you know, you're gonna show
Speaker 1: us a little bit moves will so it doesn't happen overnight. No,
Speaker 1: it does not.
Speaker 2: I want to know some like signature moves that you
Speaker 2: just throw together that you're definitely most definitely.
Speaker 1: And so you're at this night with Jen Jesus night
Speaker 1: with Gen Systems, and we're walking through the crowd and
Speaker 1: at the time, you know, sometimes you'll have a security
Speaker 1: guard and sometimes you don't, so you kind of have
Speaker 1: to be your own security guard. So, long story short,
Speaker 1: a guy pinched my butt. Yeah, he pinched, slapped, he
Speaker 1: just pinched it. No, he full on pinched my butt
Speaker 1: with three fingers, the thumb and the index and middle
Speaker 1: finger to be exact, remember the fingers and everything. I
Speaker 1: just yeah, well he pinched my butt. So of course
Speaker 1: I was mad and I turned around and I was like,
Speaker 1: did you just pinch my butt? And then he was
Speaker 1: like yes, and then I was like boom, and I
Speaker 1: in the face. Did you give him the bus driver?
Speaker 1: You don't learn today? I gave him the only bus driver?
Speaker 1: But it gets better. He didn't like he just went
Speaker 1: like this, and then Jen was like what just happened?
Speaker 1: And then when he went like this, I went like this, Boom, boom.
Speaker 1: You hit him three more times?
Speaker 3: I hit him?
Speaker 1: Were you going through?
Speaker 3: I was mad?
Speaker 1: He pitched my button then and my face disrespected me
Speaker 1: and I wasn't having that. Nope. And you know, I
Speaker 1: was a fitness smile back then, so I was holding
Speaker 1: a lot of aggression.
Speaker 3: Were steroids, I was not stars, but I just got.
Speaker 1: Off my set. Blood was Russian. Somebody just disrespected me
Speaker 1: and I just had to let him have it. I'm glad.
Speaker 1: Then he fell on the floor and he's out of nowhere.
Speaker 1: His girlfriend was like, oh my god, what happened?
Speaker 2: His girlfriend was there all of a sudden his three
Speaker 2: fingers touched your butt?
Speaker 1: Okay? And then the security guard comes out. Jennifer's like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, what's going on. I can't believe you
Speaker 1: just hit this guy. And I was like, he disrespected me.
Speaker 1: That's not right, Like nobody's gonna touch my butt, no, man, no.
Speaker 1: And then then the security of guard picked him up
Speaker 1: from the floor and pink punked him out the door.
Speaker 3: Nice, And I was like, bye, Felicia, while go go dancing.
Speaker 2: Do you deal with that lot of disrespect because you
Speaker 2: guys are not wearing that much, and you know, some
Speaker 2: people don't take your profession serious seriously, and you guys
Speaker 2: are very serious about you When you get up there,
Speaker 2: you're dancing, you're doing You're doing.
Speaker 1: What you need to do. We are, we're doing what
Speaker 1: we need to do. And you know, depending on where
Speaker 1: you're working with or who you're working with in terms
Speaker 1: of the club or the venue and the manager, you know,
Speaker 1: you you really don't know what kind of environment you're
Speaker 1: you're going to be around until you're.
Speaker 3: Actually in it, unless you're a tunnel on a Friday.
Speaker 1: Were But for the most part that probably has to
Speaker 1: be No, there's there is another second story, but that
Speaker 1: one had nothing to do with me. But I will
Speaker 1: tell that story because it is pretty juicy. But there's
Speaker 1: only been two incidences where I felt like I was
Speaker 1: being disrespected. Other than that, for the most part, over time,
Speaker 1: we've build up our career, you know, so high that
Speaker 1: people know kind of we were getting our security guard,
Speaker 1: you know, and we would be escorted back and forth
Speaker 1: from the you know, from the green room to the stage.
Speaker 1: That's beautiful.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you should be respected, even if you're wearing
Speaker 2: pasties or a throng whatever, Like nobody should touch you
Speaker 2: and you dance and your ass off up there.
Speaker 1: Listen.
Speaker 2: I put these I've created these custom made paisties as
Speaker 2: feathers dangling from a damn pussy, and I'm allowed to do.
Speaker 1: Whatever I want to do up here.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think that's the thing that men think
Speaker 2: and some women think because you're dressed a certain way,
Speaker 2: that you're allowed to be treated a certain way. I'm
Speaker 2: sure women were treating you were you. Did you ever
Speaker 2: get into it with any females? Like I.
Speaker 1: Had one one girl I was doing I was doing
Speaker 1: a move on the floor and she's trying to bite me.
Speaker 2: What yeah?
Speaker 1: What kind of unless being seen as a little crazy
Speaker 1: And I'm like, calm down, girls, your way.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: She was literally like like snapping on me, and I
Speaker 1: was like, I looked at the security gun and I
Speaker 1: was like, is she feel real? Those aren't redas hours
Speaker 1: may be having used chops chop style. Do you know
Speaker 1: Coco Coco Feliciano?
Speaker 3: No, but I like that name.
Speaker 1: She's she's she's my butch queen. So good old Cocoa
Speaker 1: came in for the rescue, honey, and she let her.
Speaker 1: What did she do? She was like, don't be touching
Speaker 1: my girl, Like that she you know, slapped her around
Speaker 1: and stuff and the people went away. I was like,
Speaker 1: why is she acting? Is trying to try to feel
Speaker 1: like a fighting trying to bite me once to remember
Speaker 1: that is whatever drug that is, and being like, oh,
Speaker 1: you want to bite somebody, don't ever do that again.
Speaker 1: That's not the drug for you. No, I don't want
Speaker 1: your teeth anywhere near me. Okay, But it's true. You know,
Speaker 1: we we we've had had some situations where, you know,
Speaker 1: they were kind of unsafe, but for the most part
Speaker 1: our career, you know, we had our security guards, we
Speaker 1: had our flights pay, we had room and board.
Speaker 2: That sounds like the dream, like rock.
Speaker 1: Fernandez always took care of us.
Speaker 2: I went to Miami with well, I didn't go to
Speaker 2: Miami with you guys, but I was there them for
Speaker 2: Winter Music Conference, which is like a big festival where
Speaker 2: all the DJs are there. They have like NonStop house
Speaker 2: music for days on end, drugs on in it's messy boots.
Speaker 1: I was there.
Speaker 2: Lie Marie was taking care of all the go go
Speaker 2: dancers and I wasn't friends with her like that yet.
Speaker 2: So we all get in the van because I literally
Speaker 2: didn't have to pay for anything when I was with them,
Speaker 2: even though you know, I pulled out my money all
Speaker 2: the time.
Speaker 1: Because I'm foolish.
Speaker 2: But I was in the van with them and they
Speaker 2: were going to the club and I didn't even know
Speaker 2: you and didn't know me, and she put and she
Speaker 2: was not having it. She had that face on like,
Speaker 2: first of all, why you in the van? If you
Speaker 2: in the van, can you tell us the directions to
Speaker 2: get to the club. And I was like, oh, I
Speaker 2: had that like stupid Metro PCs, no Kia phone green
Speaker 2: screen that had like no uh a Wi Fi know nothing.
Speaker 2: I couldn't pull up. And she's like, girl, what's going
Speaker 2: on back there?
Speaker 1: You can't get it for me? And I was like,
Speaker 1: I'll just get out here. Did you get out? And
Speaker 1: then we got to the club and she was so
Speaker 1: nice to be. She was like, it's like if I
Speaker 1: don't know you, and I'm like in my work mode
Speaker 1: and I have to manage all manage all these knuckleheads
Speaker 1: and their nonsense. I'm like, I don't have no time
Speaker 1: for jokes. She was very serious, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I like her. I like her. She give me more time,
Speaker 1: but I like her. Her pony tail was snatched. I
Speaker 1: love it. So I am, I am I had with Marie.
Speaker 1: She's so much fun.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's so funny. So what's next? Then,
Speaker 2: like you were managing them down there, they're like putting
Speaker 2: like tours and shows together.
Speaker 1: I know it seems like all over the place with
Speaker 1: with my career, but I went from let's just say
Speaker 1: I went from being a dancer, then to running the dancers,
Speaker 1: then to making the costumes, building costumes, and then also
Speaker 1: collaborating with putting together the shows. You've done big things.
Speaker 1: I worked with Silet. I was the assistant to the
Speaker 1: creative director for their special events. We did three shows. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well you tickets, she did?
Speaker 2: I did.
Speaker 1: I don't have any more. I wanted my mom. She
Speaker 1: did know she was you. I could have got the
Speaker 1: hook up, but I didn't go. But yes, since you
Speaker 1: are so sucky with these hookups. Man, what are you
Speaker 1: talking about? What do you mean? Anyway? So you work?
Speaker 1: I also worked with working with Mafi Mencado. You know,
Speaker 1: not only I was a performer, but I was really
Speaker 1: involved in instrumental and helping him and collaborating with a
Speaker 1: lot of the show choreography, creative direction, assisting him One
Speaker 1: of our biggest shows was in Vegas. We did Wicked.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, wait was that with what DJ? That was
Speaker 1: with Jonathan Peters, another big another big DJ at the time,
Speaker 1: our listener.
Speaker 2: Our listeners might not know who Jonathan Peters. He's like,
Speaker 2: I don't know the a Vichy of your your time.
Speaker 1: Maybe.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can see that Peters doesn't sound like a
Speaker 2: very good DJ name.
Speaker 1: It is at the time, he was though he was
Speaker 1: he was John for himself, he said, made a name.
Speaker 2: He's still like a dude who like will like low
Speaker 2: on his taxes and then you gotta pay.
Speaker 1: What His biggest his biggest parties were sn M and
Speaker 1: Underwear the Underwear Party, which you have a flyer. I
Speaker 1: want to go to. Peter still around No, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know he is, but I'm not sure where he's
Speaker 1: spending anymore. This is a picture and her boots looking cute.
Speaker 1: It was really good, really hot on it.
Speaker 3: And that's Tiffany.
Speaker 2: Tiffany looks like Katy Perry, but she's she doesn't look
Speaker 2: like Katy Perry, but in this photo, in the photo
Speaker 2: she does.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is great. Yeah, that's a good And we
Speaker 1: have another flyer. You have another flyer. This was an
Speaker 1: event that I created with Chris Vargas.
Speaker 2: Let me let me tell you guys what the post
Speaker 2: it look like. Okay, I feel like there are like
Speaker 2: balloon penises all over the place. And what's that blue thing?
Speaker 2: That's a blue thing doll. You guys are crazy, So
Speaker 2: it's voodoo. Their skulls. Yeah, Sydney is butt naked with
Speaker 2: feathers and butt naked were jail. I'm legit, butt naked.
Speaker 1: The face you're the only one that's naked in this
Speaker 1: ridiculous They got the black The black girl looks like
Speaker 1: you sat last, so you saw that they had closed
Speaker 1: one and you except your naked black ass down, but
Speaker 1: feathers are covering her.
Speaker 3: That's when I had no titties.
Speaker 1: She was the little Okay, Sidney, I'm still part of
Speaker 1: the little City Committee.
Speaker 2: No, but you had clothes on and I'm up there,
Speaker 2: barleg you sat down last naked.
Speaker 1: How many drinks did I have before we did that
Speaker 1: photo shoot? Wait, because I'm trying to figure out how
Speaker 1: I have any drinks? Is long? Who did the face paint?
Speaker 1: We all kind of did our own face makeup, although
Speaker 1: I helped Sitnel with her face.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, Sidney did not do that. I
Speaker 2: don't believe Excuse me, Sidney, you did the little dots
Speaker 2: on your eyebrow like that. No, No, exactly, That's what
Speaker 2: I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: So this event was created with Chris Vargas, who at
Speaker 1: the time was in an up and coming DJ, big
Speaker 1: Colombian market, and he was very into, you know, tribal music.
Speaker 1: The house just kind of that kind of genre. And okay,
Speaker 1: you really wanted a cup both he really wanted to
Speaker 1: work with me, and him and I and his manager
Speaker 1: at the time, we came up with this party called Voodoo.
Speaker 1: Why Voodoo, Well because it was, you know, the way
Speaker 1: he saw Voodoo's dark, mysterious, and you know, it really
Speaker 1: kind of accented the type of music that he plays.
Speaker 1: So Voodoo ended up being a really big hit. I
Speaker 1: designed the flyer. You know, we came up with this concept.
Speaker 3: There was a sacrifice.
Speaker 1: There was a sacrifice.
Speaker 3: Was a part of the sacrifice?
Speaker 1: Unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, as a Haitian, I am not comfortable with this
Speaker 2: conversation about food sacrifices.
Speaker 1: What did y'all sacrifice the sheep? No, we sacrificed. I
Speaker 1: was on a cross she was on a crumb and
Speaker 1: it was it was like fire show. It was a
Speaker 1: different time in my life. Simmy did some big some
Speaker 1: big numbers. Then I was out there, got some notches
Speaker 1: on how performance.
Speaker 2: Belt out there winning and losing at the same time.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, wait, so we're running out of time.
Speaker 1: We have to give you a quiz.
Speaker 2: Lead.
Speaker 1: Yes, you want to test.
Speaker 2: Your ex Okay, so levery, We're going to give you
Speaker 2: a quiz. Super excited. We just want to reshow this
Speaker 2: flyer because this is me but ass naked. That is
Speaker 2: an exhibit A which is a cup which was no cup.
Speaker 2: And they had me but ass naked with feathers and
Speaker 2: oil and everything.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: You know what, Sidney, you were the Naomi Campbell of
Speaker 1: our group, I have to say, meaning she was the
Speaker 1: only black one.
Speaker 2: Campbell is always the Navy camb of her group.
Speaker 1: No, we have black friends, but Sydney, I have to say,
Speaker 1: it was our little Naomi Campbell of the group. She
Speaker 1: always looked fears, was always always great.
Speaker 2: I looked at some of those photos and I was
Speaker 2: like girl one or two times it was like I
Speaker 2: didn't blend that concealer at all, and that wig is shifted.
Speaker 2: So I mean, everybody has pictures in the TBT that
Speaker 2: has a crooked wig at least once.
Speaker 1: Yes'm we've crooked once and that was the Memorial Week
Speaker 1: and that one's you did and you let me know
Speaker 1: right away, and you're like Sidney. She's like, Sydney, I
Speaker 1: don't know what's happening with your edges, but you have
Speaker 1: got to do that. Well. I didn't even know what
Speaker 1: edges were, but you were You're like, okay, back to
Speaker 1: this test.
Speaker 2: Okay, So first question marine, Yes, what legendary DJ said,
Speaker 2: if you got one hundred dollars put your hands up.
Speaker 1: That sounds like a hip hop DJ. Yes, uh, And
Speaker 1: I want to say, oh, I could hear his voice
Speaker 1: in his first head It starts with an F I
Speaker 1: just want funk masterflex boom.
Speaker 3: Yes it is.
Speaker 1: It wasn't fat Man scoop. I feel like it was.
Speaker 1: You guys aren't even expecting Sidney wrote that question, but
Speaker 1: I thought it was fat school. I think, yeah, we
Speaker 1: don't give you you know what, maybe found bax to
Speaker 1: the flax. Was that a night where he just said
Speaker 1: the same he said the same thing, may have said
Speaker 1: some time I was dancing that meant and he was
Speaker 1: DJ and I know I heard him say that flex
Speaker 1: it was school and I didn't even come up with
Speaker 1: the question. That's why I don't show up for a
Speaker 1: hood night.
Speaker 2: Well, that's why she didn't know.
Speaker 1: How you give me a hood question? I know, me,
Speaker 1: give me this phone she you know he's as messy,
Speaker 1: I'm terrible. Is definitely not hood whatever.
Speaker 2: Okay, you kind of touched up on this, But here's
Speaker 2: a question for you. If a guy grabs your butt
Speaker 2: while you're dancing, what to you too? I would go down?
Speaker 1: Know what is the protocol? Though? What is the protocol? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean you don't have time, girls, there is no
Speaker 1: protocols you and him, because by the time you get
Speaker 1: a security guard.
Speaker 2: Already touched, he's already touched. But he's telling his friends
Speaker 2: the story about how he touched.
Speaker 1: And then he took it on put it on his
Speaker 1: iPhone and Instagram's about it exactly.
Speaker 2: He tweeted, I touched the ass and she can't do
Speaker 2: nothing about it. So now he'd be on the floor
Speaker 2: like the last wid.
Speaker 3: Knock him out.
Speaker 1: We're gonna give you twelve points for that because you
Speaker 1: definitely knock him out.
Speaker 2: Yes, you do knock him out, knock him down.
Speaker 1: They don't deserve it.
Speaker 2: Okay, since your go go dancer, and you know about
Speaker 2: the costumes of what, yes, what is the best underware
Speaker 2: that accentuates the booty?
Speaker 1: I would have to say a new G string? A
Speaker 1: new G string?
Speaker 2: Now where, well, where does a black woman pick up
Speaker 2: a new dude? Did they have him on your color?
Speaker 1: Do that? Yeah? Send you know Sidney used to come
Speaker 1: out with those little chocolate brown Yes. Well, I mean
Speaker 1: when you say it situate your booty because when I
Speaker 1: think of the new string, because those are the ones
Speaker 1: that we were underneath our costumes so that we don't
Speaker 1: get a panty line, right, is that what you're talking about?
Speaker 1: Like if you were in like Gane, I'm going to
Speaker 1: make but oh no, you either have a good butt
Speaker 1: or you don't. Oh my god, Sidney, she's talking right
Speaker 1: at you. Ain't no underwear? Okay, you didn't failed the quiz.
Speaker 2: The thing that the guys wear, what's no, no, no,
Speaker 2: what's the thing that the gay guys wear that like lifts?
Speaker 1: Oh the booty pads? No no, no, no, no, it's
Speaker 1: not a pad. It's like they wear it. There's like
Speaker 1: a che and then they like elastic underneath. Yeah, what's
Speaker 1: that extra material? I don't know the name of that,
Speaker 1: but it's someone borderline spank and a butt harness. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a butt hardess.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay, well we're gonna google butt harness. Okay, so you yeah,
Speaker 1: you got that. Okay, you got that. So that's all
Speaker 1: our questions for you. You pass.
Speaker 3: You gave us so much. You have so much stuff
Speaker 3: with you. You have like old flyers of yourself.
Speaker 1: This is for you, Sydney. I'm gonna autograph it. O
Speaker 1: my god, this is nineteen ninety nine and Webster Hall.
Speaker 1: By the way, Webster Hall was the first club that
Speaker 1: I ever danced that.
Speaker 3: So wait, let's clap for you because you are the
Speaker 3: unofficial expert.
Speaker 1: Oh wait wait I had I have one more question
Speaker 1: before we collapse.
Speaker 2: Okay, fine, Now, as a go go dancer, what would
Speaker 2: you say is the best song to start the night
Speaker 2: with to get the party started?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that is a good I know, I
Speaker 1: just expert. Hmmm, go to like like you hear it?
Speaker 1: You're like this gonna be good night. It's going The
Speaker 1: DJ knows what he's doing.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, Oh you don't like hip hop.
Speaker 2: So it ain't gonna be There's not gonna be anything.
Speaker 2: Sadman scoop.
Speaker 1: Did I know? Well, what year are we talking about?
Speaker 1: I feel like we're talking about now. You can just
Speaker 1: now because I have the song on my phone that
Speaker 1: I live for. I just wrote my bike to it.
Speaker 3: Okay, Oh yeah, we want to hear it. Cut it up?
Speaker 1: Okay. So this song is called just by Bicap. I'm
Speaker 1: here for this. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I like it's kill It's cool.
Speaker 1: It's called Delicia's husband. Dluisa's husband did that he could
Speaker 1: eat that. Delicia Glam's husband played it?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: In Burning Man?
Speaker 3: You went to Burning Man?
Speaker 2: Literally?
Speaker 1: How much money do you have?
Speaker 3: Because Burning Man is sick?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Just you don't go there on a budget.
Speaker 1: You have to you have to. I budget did you spend?
Speaker 1: I spent about three thousand for the entire three that
Speaker 1: does that include a flight? That includes the flight? I
Speaker 1: feel I feel like that's low from what I've heard of.
Speaker 1: I got a really good deal. Yes you did, because
Speaker 1: you did, because I took care of me and she
Speaker 1: she found me a really good ticket. The ticket alone
Speaker 1: was nine hundred.
Speaker 3: Because we heard we were overhearing some of my friends
Speaker 3: say that it was like it was.
Speaker 1: Like ten twelve thousand dollars. Yes, right, because it depends
Speaker 1: on the camp that you are camping with, and some
Speaker 1: of these camps charge you astronomical fees. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Well, also like they were they were spending like one
Speaker 2: hundreds of dollars on like outfits that they were fun
Speaker 2: and all.
Speaker 1: Yes, right, well you know I don't have that problem.
Speaker 1: But she's making steah because I bring my own stuff okay, okay,
Speaker 1: and I.
Speaker 2: Know how to make my own stop.
Speaker 1: I don't make nobody.
Speaker 3: Well, Marie, you have been outstanding. We had so much
Speaker 3: fun with you.
Speaker 2: We've learned a lot about Gardance, so much about city's
Speaker 2: history before uppercut.
Speaker 1: What's next for you?
Speaker 2: Where can people listening find you? If they're like, like,
Speaker 2: where can they come see you? Or something you're working on?
Speaker 1: Okay? So right now I am working on a project
Speaker 1: for Bernie Man. Oh wait wait wait wait wait wait wait,
Speaker 1: we gotta go now. So yeah, we're gonna go next year.
Speaker 1: You have you have to gore. We're gonna go. We
Speaker 1: gotta go, we gotta go. Yeah, we go, we go.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you have to go. You're working. So
Speaker 1: I'm working on the project with burning Man. First I
Speaker 1: have to start with an art installation, and once the
Speaker 1: art installation sets off, then you could apply to proceed
Speaker 1: in starting your own camp. Which is are you starting
Speaker 1: your own camp? I would like to.
Speaker 2: I do have a lot of supporters, and Mike and
Speaker 2: Claire supporting you because they got is not supporting me though.
Speaker 1: I will reach out to them however and figure it out.
Speaker 1: I am pulling out the rolodecks. I have like about
Speaker 1: six supporters that I believe in my idea and I'm
Speaker 1: very inspired every day I work on it. You'll see
Speaker 1: it on my Instagram and my little doodles and stuff
Speaker 1: on my scrap book towards working towards what. I can't
Speaker 1: wait for it.
Speaker 3: What is your Instagram?
Speaker 1: My instagram is people in Gear People in Gear, which
Speaker 1: used to be the name of the company and I
Speaker 1: used to oh, that's right, I remember that. Yes, business woman,
Speaker 1: you better do or you have Twitter. I do not
Speaker 1: have a Twitter. But your name is Lee Marie Perez
Speaker 1: if they want to find you on Facebook. And Lee
Speaker 1: Marie spelled l y and as in mary A R.
Speaker 1: I E got it. It's Lee Marie with Marie le.
Speaker 2: Mary right here this Shi and as always, you can
Speaker 2: catch Sydney and I on the second Saturday of every
Speaker 2: month at carmelone for our show that we host, Dope Show,
Speaker 2: seven thirty East Village.
Speaker 1: Amazing, amazing R.
Speaker 2: My Instagram is just said j U S T S
Speaker 2: Y D b W and what's yours. I'm all over
Speaker 2: cities Instagram, So yeah, you can find me. If you
Speaker 2: find Sydney, you're gonna see me and my hams. Yes,
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Speaker 3: It's poppin' li Mari. You've been amazing. Thank you so much,
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Thank you for having much for listening.
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