1 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: Get ready because class is almost in session. Welcome to 2 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: the TVG University podcast, tailored for the twenty something who's 3 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: packing for a new year on campus, thinking through their 4 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: gap year, enrolling in a community college, grabbing their souls 5 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: for graduation, and everything in between. I'm your host and 6 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: TVGU coordinator Jana Ellis. 7 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 2: Hi, I'm sorry, Taylor. We'll return to Jena right after 8 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 2: the break. 9 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 1: The most exciting time of an undergraduate school year is 10 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: tiar y'all, and no, I'm not talking about Halloween or 11 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: the in of mint terms. 12 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:52,639 Speaker 3: It's homecoming season, a. 13 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: Time for tailgates, parties, special performances, yard shows, and, of course, 14 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:00,279 Speaker 1: for postgrads like me, the chance to reconnect with all 15 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: my besties from undergrad. When it comes to homecoming, there's 16 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: so much to talk about, whether it be the dues 17 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: and dunce i'm networking with alumni, the importance of staying 18 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: safe when hopping from after party to after party, and 19 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: even how to afford all the events that are occurring. 20 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 3: Joining me today. 21 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: To discuss this and more is tbg's associate podcast producer, 22 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 1: Zaria Taylor. Let's dive into the third edition of our 23 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: TBG Girl Chats. 24 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 3: Hey, Zariya, Hey girl, how are you. 25 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 2: I'm doing all right. I'm feeling a little daunted by 26 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 2: the fight. Hurricane Helene has gone through my immediate area. 27 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 2: My power has gone out, my WiFi has gone out. 28 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 2: Ah while I'm going through midterms, so it's a lot 29 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 2: going on. And on top of that, this is like 30 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 2: way minor. But my hair and my nail appointment got 31 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 2: canceled because of the weather, and I was really looking 32 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 2: forward to both of them. I was going to wade 33 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 2: through the water for that hair like I wanted might 34 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 2: not look it's real, real bad. But she taked me. 35 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 2: She was like, there's been an ambroillery about floods. You're 36 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 2: not going to risk your life for these braids. So 37 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:08,839 Speaker 2: I was like, I had to accept it. So, yeah, 38 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 2: I'm thinking a little daunted. 39 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:10,679 Speaker 4: But how about you. 40 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 3: I'm doing good. 41 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 1: I'm not experiencing any of that, but I am experiencing 42 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: a little bit of the rain and wind. But being 43 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: in the Midwest, the most we deal with is like 44 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: a tornado, so I don't have to deal with hurricane 45 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: season anymore. But I appreciate everyone down south fighting the 46 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: good fight. I hope everyone is safe. I hope everyone 47 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: has the resources they need because hurricanes are no joke. 48 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: They're no joke. 49 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 3: But though that list, braids will come. 50 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 4: They will. 51 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 2: But lord, I've been without my hair dup for too long. 52 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 3: I know the feeling. 53 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 2: I know the Yeah, we could have a whole conversation 54 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 2: on hair depression, but we're not going to go there today. 55 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 3: Yeah we're not. 56 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: But I wanted to check in, like, how is the 57 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: semester a Spelman going so far? 58 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 4: Yeah? 59 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 2: So, as I mentioned, this week is my mentoring week 60 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,679 Speaker 2: and it's been a lot on top of the hurricane. 61 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 2: And you know what, I was actually really happy. I 62 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 2: did a little praise dance when they announced classes were 63 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 2: canceled because of the hurricane because I just needed this 64 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 2: break to catch up on work and just have a 65 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 2: mental health break because the semester has been a lot. 66 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 2: I'm only taking four classes, but I'm doing a lot 67 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 2: outside of school. I have two jobs, so it's very stressful. 68 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 2: So I needed this break. Shout out to Hurricane Helen, 69 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 2: because I really needed this time to have my assignments 70 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 2: pushback because the work isn't piling up, but I'm surviving. 71 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 2: So that's how my semester's going. But how has this 72 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 2: season of postgrad life been treating you? 73 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: It's been treating me well. Our last girl chat, we 74 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: talked about just me accepting everything that's coming to me, 75 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: like me not telling myself no, like all the things 76 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: that come with the post grad because I feel like again, 77 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: like when you graduate college or you graduate grad school, 78 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: it's you versus you. Like it's no more you're peers 79 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: around you. Unless you're going straight back to school. You 80 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: don't have that community so close to you anymore. So 81 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: it's you versus you, and you're the one encouraging yourself 82 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: every day. That picture of the black woman getting out 83 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: of her bed is very. 84 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 4: Much I know exactly what you're talking. 85 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: Yes, tired, malnourished, that's mentally how I've felt. But I'm 86 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: really really excited for this new season. And I'm also 87 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: like starting to pursue my creative endeavors a little bit 88 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: more and push myself to expand my portfolio. So it's 89 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: just a lot, a lot, a lot of things going on, 90 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: but everything that I prayed for, everything that I asked for, 91 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: and so making sure that I'm remaining humble and grateful 92 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: and aware of all the things that I wanted and 93 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: I received, so now it's time to like put in 94 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:50,559 Speaker 1: that work. 95 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 3: So I'm excited. 96 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 4: Well, I love that for you. 97 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 2: It sounds like you're stepping into a new season of thriving, 98 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 2: of nourishment, and so I'm really excited to to see 99 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 2: where you go next. 100 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,119 Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you. 101 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: But before we get into our main conversation for today, 102 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: can we do a quick little pop culture rundown? 103 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 3: Catch up? What's on your feed right now? 104 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 4: Yeah? 105 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,679 Speaker 2: So I'll say I've been seeing a lot of stuff 106 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 2: in relation to the recent VMAs, but honestly, I didn't 107 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 2: tune in and I really couldn't care less. Like I say, 108 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 2: there was a whole controversy with Tyla and her you 109 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 2: know what I'm talking about with Yeah, no board to 110 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 2: like Halle a little. I scrolled right past that. I 111 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,359 Speaker 2: really was like, y'all are making step up, y'all are bored, 112 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 2: Like why are we arguing about this? 113 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 4: So I'm just completely tapped out. You know who else? 114 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 2: I keep seeing a lot on my timeline Chappelle Roon. 115 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm saying that girl's name right 116 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 2: or not, but I just cannot get into the music. 117 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 4: I'm so sorry. I just can't, and she's. 118 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 2: All over my timeline and I just get into it, 119 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 2: and then I'll say, the last thing that's really been 120 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 2: on my timeline is the drama between Cardi being Offset, 121 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 2: Like I'm over I'm so over it. I don't care. 122 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 2: That's really what's been all my time, a bunch of bs. 123 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 2: I could not care. 124 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 4: Let's about right, what about you? 125 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 1: And then I want to note, like Offset, that was 126 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: your wife. Yeah, I want to put that out there, 127 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 1: like he tried to like play her. That's his ex wife, 128 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: that's her ex husband. There's no infans and buts about it. 129 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 1: But I also have had so many negative moments, like 130 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: everything on social media on the low key is negative. 131 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: If there's any positivity, to just click on the comment 132 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: section and you're right back at it to like the 133 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 1: negative comment. 134 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 3: But I also have been. 135 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 1: Seeing the Tyla and Halle controversy, which all of the 136 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: gen Z millennial news channels that talk about pop culture 137 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: were quick to have their think piece on it. Black 138 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 1: Twitter was quick to have their think pieces on it. 139 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 1: It was just exhausting and at this point with Hollywood 140 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: and celebrity culture, like I don't know what to believe. 141 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,359 Speaker 1: I don't know if I believe anything anymore. This is 142 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: all just entertainment for us to have commentary on, and 143 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 1: it's just exhausting. Y'all are drama queens, Like it's too much. 144 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: But I also did not watch the VMAs because if 145 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: Beyonce's not performing, then why am I watching it. The 146 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: VMAs have not been the same since then, so there's 147 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: no needs for me to engage at all. 148 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 4: Do you have any Halloween plans? 149 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: I feel like an old lady now. I just pass 150 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: out candy to little kids, but it's so much fun, 151 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: like they're so cute, and kids are just when they're cute, 152 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: I should say, because I am a love hate relationship 153 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: with children, But when they're really cute, like innocent and 154 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: their outfits and they just want some candy and then 155 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: explaining their outfit, that's always like really fun. So I'm 156 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: looking forward this year just passing out candy. I never 157 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: was a type like in college, I went to Halloween parties, 158 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: but something always happened on Halloween, either rain or I 159 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: filled a test that was sad like it was just 160 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: something like always happening for me to never get a 161 00:07:56,040 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: real Halloween during college, so I just retired from trying 162 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: and I just pass out candy now, But what about you. 163 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 2: I might be entering my college party era this Halloween 164 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 2: because fun fact, I'm a junior and I've never been 165 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 2: to a college party, and people judge. 166 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 3: Me so bad for that. 167 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 2: People are surprised when they hear that, and there are 168 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 2: various reasons behind it. But I might be entering my 169 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 2: era this year because Michael Rainey junior from the show Power, 170 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 2: who plays Threek, He's having a party in Atlanta, and 171 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I might have to I might 172 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 2: have to step out to step out. 173 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 4: So I got my little free ticket off event. Right. 174 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 2: We'll see if I end up going or not, but 175 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 2: right now, those are my Halloween plans. If I don't 176 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 2: do that, I'm gonna just stay in and watch rite 177 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 2: scary movies candy. 178 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: So yeah, well there's no judgment coming from me. But like, 179 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: really quick, why haven't you gone to a party in college? 180 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: What's your take on like party culture? Because I think 181 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: that's really important to talk about because not everyone parties 182 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: and are made to feel weird or isolated. And I laugh, 183 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 1: but I'm not judging you at all, but I'm curious, like, 184 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: why haven't you gone to a function. 185 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 2: For me, I am not like a drinker or a smoker. 186 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 2: I'm a wall hugger. I'm not going to be out 187 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 2: there dancing. And then on top of that, I feel 188 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 2: like in our current generation, I've seen too many people 189 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,959 Speaker 2: get recorded and go viral from going to parties. I 190 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 2: just feel like these days you have to be so 191 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 2: conscious of what you're doing at a party you can't 192 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 2: even let go and have fun. And on top of that, 193 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 2: rape culture, having to worry about safety, things of that nature. 194 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 2: So those are mainly the reasons I've just never been 195 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 2: a part of your period. So let me just say 196 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 2: that as well. But I just don't find any incentive. 197 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: And I respect that, and I think I totally agree. 198 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: As a partygoer, I definitely can respect that. And I 199 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: think that there's a lot of black girls in college 200 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: who are made to feel bad, Like I said that, 201 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: they don't want to participate in party culture and all that. 202 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: But I'm excited for your Halloween. I feel like it's 203 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: going to be good and we'll see it's gonna be 204 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: a good party. A free event by a party has 205 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: me a bit worried, but I'm excited for you. 206 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 2: Excited, just gonna vibe exactly exactly. 207 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: So we're here today to discuss all things homecoming. To start, Azaria, 208 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: can you share for those who may be unfamiliar, what 209 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: a typical homecoming consists of. 210 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, so college homecoming is basically just like a huge 211 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 2: family reunion or you're having people of all ages who 212 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 2: have graduated from this institution that are coming back and 213 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,959 Speaker 2: basically just having a huge party. They're connecting with people 214 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 2: who they haven't seen in years, who are their classmates, 215 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 2: and there is tailgating. There is usually a homecoming football game, 216 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 2: there is parties. There are usually concerts with different artists 217 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 2: and different lineups that they go to. And at my school, Spellhouse, 218 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 2: our homecoming consists of, first we have what's called a 219 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 2: welcome back jam, so it's like a huge party for 220 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 2: the current students, and then after that we have the 221 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 2: homecoming game, which is when you do all the tailgating, 222 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 2: and Spellhouses are really big. There are all types of activations. 223 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 2: There are like brands, they're like they do a lot 224 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 2: of up. Yeah, it's like a whole parade essentially, and 225 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 2: like people having to and boosts. So usually all of 226 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 2: the sororities and fraternities have their own little section and 227 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 2: so they're doing their thing. And then, like I said, 228 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 2: different brands have their own spot. 229 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:09,079 Speaker 4: They're like the band. 230 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 2: All these different organizations have their own spots for all 231 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 2: the alum to come back. And then after the tailgate 232 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 2: is usually the concert. So at Spellhouse we have the 233 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 2: hip hop concert and then the neo soul concert. And 234 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 2: then after the concerts are over, there's usually a stroll 235 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 2: or a yard show, and the different fraternities and sororities 236 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 2: will compete against each other. Whoever has the best performance wins. 237 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 2: And then there's a comedy show, there's a fashion show. 238 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 2: So it's a lot going on, all kind of squeeze 239 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 2: into one week. But that is how I would describe homecoming. 240 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 2: Is there anything I misschaning that you add? 241 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: I feel like outside are looking in because I did 242 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: not graduate from Spelman. To your point, it is a 243 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: lot going on in the best way possible, Like it's 244 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 1: like a festival. Literally, it's like a concert festival, like 245 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: all your favorite artists are coming, and I mean there 246 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: is a concert aspect to it, but there's just so 247 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: many elements to it. So I feel like you touched 248 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 1: everything that I can think of on top of my head. 249 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, let me add as well. 250 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 2: In addition to the concerts themselves, last year we had 251 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 2: a performer at the tailgates. Like it's just artists, celebrities 252 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 2: are everywhere. There are celebrity alone that are everywhere, Like, yeah, 253 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 2: it's just it is a lot going on. So that 254 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 2: is essentially what homecoming looks like. And keep in mind, 255 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 2: like I'm speaking from the respective of an HBCU student, 256 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 2: and so I'm wondering, Jane, for you, because you graduated 257 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 2: from a PWI, how the homecoming experience might have looked 258 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:30,839 Speaker 2: different from you. And also I'm wondering, have you ever 259 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 2: traveled to an HBCU to go to their homecoming? 260 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm only speaking for UNC Chapel Hill. 261 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 3: I have no. 262 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: Experience traveling to other pwis for homecoming. If I Butcher 263 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: anything like any tar Hills do not, But like come 264 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: for me, I seriously, it feels like a fever dream, 265 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: but specifically for you and C black U and C 266 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: I should say, I remember my freshman year that was 267 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: like the best homecoming I would say that I had. 268 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: And it was like a week of parties. Every night 269 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 1: there was a different party, like different themed parties that 270 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: all black students will go to, and like preparation for homecoming, 271 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: so you have like your football game, and then black students, 272 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:17,359 Speaker 1: we also tailgate the football game, so all the fraternities 273 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: like have their own tailgates. Our campus is huge, so 274 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: like it's across campus, so you have to honestly pick 275 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 1: the frat you want to stay at for the day, 276 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: because there's no way you're walking across like campus to 277 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: get to all the tailgates. But as a freshman, I did. 278 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: I had anything else to do. I had no car, 279 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: so I had to row. So the frats had their 280 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 1: food and you see like everyone that comes back and 281 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 1: it's just like good vibes. And then during that weekend, 282 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: we either have a step show or a yard show. 283 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 3: It's always like at night. 284 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,079 Speaker 1: Typically in the past it was for money, but recent 285 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: years in the endemic, I guess the step show turned 286 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: into just a yard show and everyone just performed. 287 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 3: That's where everyone goes to. 288 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: Like the girls don't go to the game for real, 289 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: for real, Like I like to go to the football game, 290 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: but the football game is really not why you come 291 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 1: back for homecoming, Like as a black student, like you 292 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 1: come back for the tailgate, and so I feel like 293 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 1: that's similar to HBCU culture. Still you're coming back for 294 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: that tailgate, Like the tailgate is the main thing you 295 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: want to go back to. 296 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 3: So you can see. 297 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: Old alums, new alums, like recent grads, like all that jazz, 298 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: and get like good food. But honestly, it's very different 299 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: from an HBCU homecoming. But I feel like the core 300 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: values of honoring or legacy at your school is still there, 301 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: especially as a black student, Like that's really important. Community 302 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: is really important, making connections is really important, and like 303 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: overall fun and I feel like sometimes it can seem 304 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: as though it's just vastly different and not enjoyable at all. 305 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: But as black students, we create our own fun and 306 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: we curate our own fun, and so it quite literally 307 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: is a different homecoming than the general campus for a 308 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: black student. But have I traveled to an HBC homecoming. Yes, 309 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: In My favorite, favorite favorite HBC homecoming is hands down 310 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: North Carolina Central University. That is the best homecoming. 311 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 3: I don't care like Central is so much fun. 312 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: I have so much respect for all Eagles, Like being 313 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: a Durham, I love Central and they just have that 314 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: backyard type of feel for their homecoming. You can get 315 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: a hot dog, you can get a hamburger. It does 316 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: not matter where you come from. I came from you 317 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: and C two Central, and you know, I just was 318 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: nice and friendly and people did the same back to me. 319 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: And if you know, two or three people that go 320 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: to Central are good people parking in their cars and 321 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: their yards. 322 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 3: It's just a good vibe. 323 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: And a very homey vibe. And I always respected that. 324 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: And I loved Central's homecoming when I went. So that's 325 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: my favorite one, hands down. 326 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 4: Okay, I might have to pop out. 327 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 2: I haven't traveled to any other ones because I'm still 328 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 2: an undergrad, so it makes no sense beween the travel. 329 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 2: I want to enjoy the ones that I have right now, 330 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 2: but in the future I can see myself going. I 331 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 2: really want to go to NCAT because g O, they 332 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 2: have such a reputation that I'm like, I need to 333 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 2: see what they're talking about. 334 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: But yeah, the girls, the girls do have fun there 335 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: at your homecoming? Like is it overlapping other surrounding schools? 336 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: Like is it the same weekend? Is that why you can't. 337 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 2: Go or the auc kind of does it altogether gotcha. 338 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 2: And I'm not really tapped into the Georgia asps to 339 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 2: use no shade, so I don't really know what they're doing. 340 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 2: I probably could travel, but it's it's just a lot 341 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 2: going on them. It's like, do I really want to 342 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 2: do it right? Two in one weekend or whatever. 343 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 3: So yeah, and that's a lot of money too. That's awesome. 344 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 3: So then that the girls don't talk about homecoming. 345 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 4: We're gonna get into that. 346 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, we are, we are so Spellhouse homecoming is 347 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: an infamous event, Zaria. Can you share any homecoming related 348 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: memories or experiences you have, good or bad, because the 349 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: real we'll talk about both. 350 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I have stories for both. 351 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 2: For the good, my freshman homecoming was hands down such 352 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 2: a great homecoming, like it would go down as one 353 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 2: of the greatest homecomings honestly in HBCU history. Okay, I'm 354 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 2: putting that out there on the record because we had 355 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 2: a surprise appearance from Aubrey Graham himself. 356 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 4: Now listen, this is. 357 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 2: Before he was publicly humiliated by Kendrick Lamar. However, at 358 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 2: the time, like it was just crazy because when they 359 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 2: were promoting our hip hop concert, they only told us 360 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 2: it was going to be twenty one's Avage in Friends, 361 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 2: so that doesn't say nothing, right, I don't listen to 362 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 2: twenty one I feel like that, But I still went 363 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 2: because it was my freshman homecoming, like I want to 364 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 2: have the experience. So I'm going in thinking, Okay, twenty 365 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 2: one's Avage, maybe a couple of his low label mates 366 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 2: or whatever. But I knew at the time he was 367 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 2: promoting his album with Drake her Loss, so I'm thinking, okay, 368 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 2: can we make some shake since they are both promoting 369 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 2: this out at the same time, and a couple people 370 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 2: were like theorizing that Drake was going to come, and 371 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 2: he did, and it was just like the whole building 372 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 2: felt like it was going to collapse. That is the 373 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 2: experience I will never forget. Everybody was just so hype. 374 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 2: And it's funny because the concert was supposed to end. 375 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 2: I want to say, like eleven. We probably weren't out 376 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 2: of there until like two am because everybody was late. 377 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 2: Of course black people and rappers they're late. And I 378 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 2: know there were some people next to me who they 379 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 2: had left right before Drake was going to come out, wow, 380 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 2: because they were like, I'm over it, I'm not waiting 381 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 2: any longer because there was like a period of like 382 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 2: an hour where I guess somebody was late, so it 383 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 2: was just a DJ playing music. 384 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 4: It's like nobody wants to sit here and hear that. 385 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 2: So a lot of people did leave only for Drake 386 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 2: to come out, and I just feel so bad for 387 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 2: those people. And then there are people who just stayed 388 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 2: home entirely because they thought it was just going to 389 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 2: be twenty one savage. But it wasn't even just Drake. 390 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 2: We had Ruby Rose come out, Lil Duval, Lil YACHTI 391 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 2: came out, Race Drummer came out, Trinidad James came out. 392 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 4: It was just like. 393 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 2: Wow, every single rapper came out. It was just so great. 394 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 2: And this is all for my ticket. I spent like 395 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 2: twenty dollars on so it was just an amazing experience. 396 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:45,439 Speaker 2: All the other events were cool as well, but nothing's 397 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 2: topping that Drake literally came around. So yeah, that was 398 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 2: like probably my best experience. Bad experience was my last homecoming, 399 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 2: which was my sophomore year, because the lineup was absolutely trash. 400 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 2: It was absolutely trash. The hip hop concert was a 401 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 2: little dark and for which no just no shade, no Shade, 402 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 2: Oh Shade, I'm sorry, I'm not paying to go see 403 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 2: Little Dirk. 404 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 4: I'm not. 405 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 2: And then our Neo Soul concert, the headliner was Division No, 406 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 2: just No. And mind you, they had to make the 407 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 2: tickets free for the Neo sol concer because I knew 408 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 2: nobody was going to show up. And then from what 409 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 2: I heard, because I didn't go, I did not go. 410 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 2: But from what I heard from people who went to 411 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 2: the Neo Soul concert, people were leaving like mid performance wow, 412 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 2: which I feel so bad for the artists to have 413 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 2: to experience that. But people were leaving in droves because 414 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 2: they didn't want to sit there listen to us. I 415 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 2: feel bad, but yeah, the lineup was just trash. So 416 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 2: I didn't really participate in homecoming last year, so that 417 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 2: would be my bad for overall homecoming for me, it's 418 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 2: been in fifty to fifty. I had like an amazing 419 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 2: freshman homecoming and then a very terrible sophomore homecoming. 420 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 4: So we'll see what junior year has to bring. 421 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: And I'll say, like, I remember seeing that on my 422 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: Instagram that Drake came just Spilman, and I was sick. 423 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 2: I was. 424 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 3: Like, oh my God, like to be there before he 425 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 3: got icky. Y'all were lucky. Yeah, that's amazing. 426 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 1: But I'll say my senior year homecoming has to be 427 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: my favorite homecoming. I participated in my yard show with 428 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: my chapter, and that was something that like my sisters 429 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: and I like prepped four for months and just a 430 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: lot of like effort and time into that. 431 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 3: And to see our alums. 432 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 1: And to see like our other sisters and friends like 433 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,479 Speaker 1: supporting us. It felt so good to like reap what 434 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: we sew. And a lot of people came back that year. 435 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: I think at you and C, it's a hit or 436 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 1: miss if people are going to come back. That's one 437 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: thing you can take from a PWY homecoming is you 438 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: don't know if everyone's coming back. I feel like at HBCU, 439 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 1: nine times out of ten everyone's coming back. I feel 440 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 1: like at you and C, like I'm not going this 441 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: year because it's not my homecoming like I went last 442 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 1: year because I graduated that spring. So I think a 443 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,679 Speaker 1: lot of us think like that because it's like again, 444 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: you have to pay for the flight, you have to 445 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: pay for the fit, you have to pay for the hotel, 446 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: to pay for the car, pay for all the activities 447 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: you're doing, and if a lot of your friends aren't going, 448 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 1: what's the point of going. Whereas other schools, I feel like, no, 449 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: you're just gonna go because that's what you do. And 450 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: me coming back for homecoming was pretty boring. I'm not 451 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 1: gonna lie like coming back to campus was pretty mid 452 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 1: I didn't like coming back, honestly. I feel like if 453 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: I came back years later, I feel like it would 454 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: it had more of an impact on me. But I 455 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 1: did enjoy seeing my friends that I hadn't seen in 456 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 1: month because I moved to a couple of states over. 457 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 1: You know, I got to chop it up with some 458 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 1: other alumps see how they're doing. But homecoming also bread 459 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: a lot of anxiety for me coming back to campus 460 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: because everyone's trying to like not one up each other, 461 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: but you're trying to see like what are you doing? 462 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 3: Okay, what am I doing? 463 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: And you know what I mean, and being postgride in 464 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 1: that when you're still trying to figure out your life 465 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: was semi intimidating for me. 466 00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 2: That makes me think of the fact that I feel 467 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 2: like they're is an idea that the older you get, 468 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 2: like coming back to homecoming is like lame, Like let 469 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 2: go of your glory years kind of vibe, and so 470 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 2: I'm curious what you think about that. As somebody who 471 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 2: is proscrad and you've mentioned that you're not going to 472 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 2: go this year, I'm wondering do you have plans to 473 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,199 Speaker 2: continue engaging in future years? And do you feel like 474 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 2: there is such a thing as being too old for 475 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 2: homecoming tee. 476 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: That's a good question. I feel like that's a hot topic. 477 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: I feel like my friends and I talk about this 478 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 1: so much about being washed up, and we also have 479 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: like a fear of being embarrassing. I think for me, 480 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 1: I've already established that I don't need to come back 481 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: to like my campus, and I also want to put 482 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: it out there. No one's waiting for me to come back. 483 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 1: No one's rolling the red carpet out Like I'm not 484 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 1: thinking that at all. I never know, you know what 485 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: I mean, Like I'm not over here, like oh my god, 486 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,239 Speaker 1: I'm not coming back until no one cares. But I 487 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 1: think for me, I'm not going to come back into 488 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 1: like my five years of graduating or my lines like 489 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: fifth year. That's the only time I would consider coming back. 490 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,439 Speaker 1: And that depends on planning, that depends on life that 491 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: depends on money. I didn't see me going to homecoming 492 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: important after the last one I went to, I got 493 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 1: my little dispel picks, I put on my fit, I 494 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 1: said hi. But my friends and I establish that we 495 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:15,439 Speaker 1: can just plan a trip of the friends we wanted 496 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: to see at homecoming aside from being back in Chapel Hill. 497 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: And so that's the mindset we're all in is we 498 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,199 Speaker 1: should be seeing each other so frequently enough throughout the 499 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,239 Speaker 1: year that we don't feel like we have to go 500 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: to homecoming. And I feel like throughout the year post homecoming, 501 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 1: we made that a priority. Like I saw my friends 502 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: once a month all year, and if I didn't, it 503 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: was every other month. And I don't feel like I 504 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: need to go to homecoming to see them. I can 505 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: just come back to North Carolina like any time. But 506 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 1: I do think at YOUNC like I hate to say this, 507 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 1: but there are some people who will come every year 508 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: like you're never taking you and see from them like 509 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 1: you're never gonna take being a guitar heel like they 510 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 1: love you and. 511 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 3: See like love it, love and love and love love it. 512 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,400 Speaker 1: And I feel like I don't feel that all the way, 513 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,679 Speaker 1: Like I love my school, but I don't have this 514 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 1: crazy pride for my school. I felt like my circle 515 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: was small enough for me to just travel to my 516 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: friends when I need to, Like I don't have that 517 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 1: connection or tie to my university like that anymore. So 518 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 1: I do feel like there is a thing of being 519 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,679 Speaker 1: washed up. And I feel like for the old heads, 520 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: it's cute, that's fine. If you graduate in the nineties 521 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 1: in the eighties, I'm not taking enough from you. That's 522 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: a legacy, that's history, Like you walked a pack. 523 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 3: I never had to. 524 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,679 Speaker 1: But I feel like the recent grads, like in the 525 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: twenty tens, we don't. 526 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 3: Have to come every year, Like we do not have 527 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 3: to come every single year. But that's just me. 528 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 1: I'll throw it back to you really quick, like, what 529 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: do you think is there such a thing as being 530 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 1: washed up? 531 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 3: Going back to campus? 532 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 2: I feel like this a lot of my interactions with 533 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 2: alum as an undergrad during homecoming, A lot of alum 534 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 2: really acts like they still run the campus and like 535 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 2: they use this time to time travel back into their 536 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 2: old cells when they were undergraduates and have the same 537 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 2: crew around them and kind of just for I don't 538 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 2: want to say pretend, but play this role of like 539 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 2: they're still undergrads again and they're like the top dogs 540 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 2: on campus, and because they're older than you trying to 541 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 2: I don't want to say, boss you around, but just 542 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 2: act a certain way that I personally don't appreciate. 543 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 4: I'm just gonna be honest. 544 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 2: During my interactions during tailgate and my freshman year, I 545 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 2: had a lot of negative interactions with alum who're just 546 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 2: like rude and they feel like because you're younger than them, 547 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 2: or because you're still a student over the old heads, 548 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 2: so we get to act this way. And sometimes you 549 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 2: just gotta let it rock because they lived that fantasy 550 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 2: and they have the right to write like they did 551 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 2: their time, and they do get a little of respect 552 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 2: because the fact that they're older than you, right, I 553 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 2: believe that, and so sometimes you gotta let it rock. 554 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 2: But I did have a lot of rude interactions, and 555 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:45,439 Speaker 2: I think sometimes alum need to consider that this is 556 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 2: not your campus anymore, Like this is not your time anymore. 557 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 2: Your time has ended, and it's okay to let the 558 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 2: new students have their time to soak in this experience, 559 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,400 Speaker 2: Like I feel like another example is when alum try 560 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,959 Speaker 2: to get into the concerts and stuff like that, and 561 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 2: it's like there's a limited amount of seating, so like, 562 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 2: I feel like there should be priority for the students 563 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 2: who are experiencing this for the first time. And I'll 564 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 2: be honest, I also had experience where I was getting 565 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 2: cat called by Oh and I'm just like, well, I 566 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,880 Speaker 2: thought this was unity, like their family reunion. I thought 567 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 2: this was like black magic. I thought we were all 568 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,640 Speaker 2: in this together. I thought we were a family, and 569 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 2: they were just as rude as anybody else had me 570 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 2: on the street. So and that's not all of my experiences. 571 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 2: I've had great experiences with the Love where they'll put 572 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 2: some money in your account. There are a lot of 573 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 2: very sweet alum, but there are others who just are 574 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 2: very much caught up in the fantasy of being back 575 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 2: in school, and for some of them, this was their 576 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 2: peak in their life and now they're not necessarily experiencing 577 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 2: that same glory, so when they come back, they get 578 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 2: like an ego trip. And I understand how I'll let 579 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 2: it rock, but yeah, that's my opinion on I'm coming 580 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 2: back like just well, like know your role. Hi, I'm sorry, Taylor. 581 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 2: We'll return to Jana right after the break. 582 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: How can alump specifically make sure they're not stepping on 583 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: the toes outside of giving space, is there anything else 584 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: they can do? Because I also feel like homecoming is 585 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,439 Speaker 1: marketed for alumps. And then when I was a student, 586 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: people are like, homecoming is not for the students, it's 587 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,360 Speaker 1: for the alumps, And after graduating, I do agree with that. 588 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: I do agree with that because y'all are in college. 589 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,360 Speaker 1: You have the weekly parties, you have the weekly functions. 590 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: We're in the nine to five world where that's not 591 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: the norm. And so I'm curious, like what tips would 592 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: you give for those individuals coming back that want to 593 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 1: relive their college days because college was fun and lighthearted 594 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 1: and they didn't have to stress about the woes of 595 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: the world. So like, what would you say as a student, now, you. 596 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 2: Know, yeah to this, that's real, that's real because it's 597 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 2: in the name right homecoming, like it's about coming back home. 598 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 2: It is marketed towards and I think also a lot 599 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 2: of reasons for that is because a lot of colleges 600 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 2: use this has the time to try and get more 601 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 2: donations when all the alum come back. So yes, partly 602 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 2: I do feel like it is for the alum. I 603 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 2: think the time for the alum to really go up 604 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,719 Speaker 2: is the tailgate. Absolutely, hang out with your crew. Obviously 605 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 2: yard shows. Yes, they're gonna be front in line because 606 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 2: a lot of them are part of these same lines 607 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 2: that they're watching and they're supporting whatever everything else. I 608 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 2: feel like you should step back a little bit when 609 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 2: it comes to trying to mix into things that are 610 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,120 Speaker 2: like primarily student marketed. I feel like you should back 611 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,159 Speaker 2: up a little bit. Yeah, and also I feel like 612 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 2: all alum should come to home coming ready to open 613 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 2: their purse to the students and support the fact that 614 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 2: we are still struggling. We're going to tap into the 615 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 2: financial aspects of homecoming. I feel like you should come 616 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 2: back ready to give some money, support the current student. 617 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: I feel like that is geared towards like the big dogs, 618 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: because I'm I am definitely not opening my pocket any student. 619 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 3: I am still working on me. 620 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: Like, respectfully, you cannot if you graduated two to five years, 621 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: don't expect that. 622 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 3: But if that's five plus years, open up the pockets. 623 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 2: There is like a vision of alum who are just 624 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 2: five years out versus the old. 625 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: It's a huge difference. There's a huge difference, cause five 626 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: years out is pushing it as well. But when you 627 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: get to the eighties, you're not gonna take homecoming from them. 628 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 3: So it's like you have to move around not move 629 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 3: around them. 630 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 4: But I feel like you just have to have grace. 631 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: Yes, you have to have grace and know your boundaries 632 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: of not allowing people to can't call you, like saying 633 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: appropriate things, like all those things that go into protecting 634 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: yourself as a student. Now you have to bring that 635 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: back up because there's more strangers on your campus. But 636 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: I want to segue to networking. Networking is often talked 637 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: about as something you should do during homecoming, especially with 638 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: successful alum But how do we feel about that? Is 639 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: there a best way to go about networking during homecoming? 640 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: And is getting involved in business in some way spoiling 641 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: like that fun culture of the event. 642 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 2: I am of the view that it does spoil it 643 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 2: a little bit because I know me personally. If I'm 644 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 2: having fun with all my classmates who I haven't seen 645 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 2: in year, and some young undergraduate comes up to me 646 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 2: and it's like I want a job, I would be 647 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 2: annoyed by that. And I do think with networking period, 648 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 2: regardless of the occasion, you do have to toe the 649 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 2: line between kind of begging for a job and then 650 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 2: just showing genuine interest in someone. Right when you're a 651 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 2: networking you should automatically come up to somebody and be like, 652 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 2: tell them everything that you need from them. It's more 653 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 2: so about starting a conversation and building a relationship with 654 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 2: this person so that way when the function is over, 655 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 2: you can count on them to remember you later for 656 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 2: different opportunities. So that's how I personally like to go 657 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 2: about it. I was told by a professor to print 658 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 2: out like business cards and pass them out to people homecoming, 659 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 2: and I just feel like that's not it. And you 660 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 2: also have to keep in mind I'm thinking about tailgate 661 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 2: because that's when I see most alum at. 662 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 4: These people are drunk, like they're having fun. 663 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not really a place for you, as somebody 664 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 2: who doesn't even know these people, just off the virtue 665 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 2: of y'all both being from the same school to go 666 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 2: up to them and be like begging for a job. 667 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 2: I feel like it's more so about coming to homecoming 668 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 2: with the attitude that I want to build relationships with 669 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 2: people who have gone to the same school as me. 670 00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 2: I want to get to know them and their journey more, 671 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 2: and I'm going to start up a conversation with them 672 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 2: if it lands in us exchanging LinkedIn's, that's perfect. If 673 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 2: it don't and don't, but I just feel like you 674 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 2: have to remember your intentions. And again, my priority does 675 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 2: have fun if it naturally comes up to where I'm 676 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 2: talking to alum and they're asking me about my career 677 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 2: interest and yeah, let's talk about it. But I'm not 678 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 2: really going to be the one to bring it up 679 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 2: for real because I just feel like it's not the time. 680 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 4: But that's just my thoughts. But I'm curious what you think. 681 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 1: I guess that the professional in me is like, yeah, 682 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: like network but like realistically, to your point, how are 683 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: you networking? 684 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 4: Listen? 685 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 1: I could have done a lot more networking during my 686 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: time of college. 687 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 3: I didn't know how to. 688 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 4: I didn't know. 689 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: The power of it. I got told the term so 690 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: many times. It was like a mute term to me, 691 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 1: like it didn't matter, like how many times. 692 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 4: You said it. 693 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 3: I didn't do it. 694 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 1: But I'm thinking now as I talk about it out loud, 695 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 1: the networking might be for like the grads because as 696 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: a student, to your point, you're just having fun, like 697 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: you're just in it. You're getting your burger, you're getting 698 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: your chicken from the cues, you're getting your hugs from 699 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 1: the aunties who haven't seen you, grew up with you. 700 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: Like you're not passing out business cards. And maybe they 701 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: did that back in the day and that worked well 702 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 1: for them, but I think now our generation, like you're 703 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 1: getting Instagram, you're getting socials, and then maybe afterwards your 704 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: following up. But as a grad, I think homecoming can 705 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 1: be really useful to leverage, like when'd you graduate? Okay, 706 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: I graduated in here? What do you do now? And 707 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 1: I feel like that's an easier transition to network while 708 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: y'all are both drinking. I feel like that makes sense 709 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 1: because I feel like as a student, not to say 710 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: you shouldn't network, but I really think you could have fun, 711 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 1: Like it doesn't have to be business all the time. 712 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: And maybe for some people it is that serious, and 713 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 1: I respect that because we don't know everyone's past college. 714 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: But I feel like we don't have to network at 715 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: all points of our lives. And I feel like this 716 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: is a weekend or a week or two that you 717 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: can have fun and not network. But I think if 718 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: you graduate, you're coming back, then you can leverage when 719 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: you graduated what field you're in now and having genuine 720 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: conversations and not necessarily networking. 721 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 3: I don't think that. 722 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: Those two have to be the same thing, because you'll 723 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: be surprised what so many lums do, Like I'm the 724 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: VP and they're. 725 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 3: Older, like they're in their career. 726 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 1: Like I'm the senior VP of City Bank, and it's 727 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: like real, like I'm an associate, Like how did you 728 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: do that? And I think that's how you quote unquote network. 729 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: But I don't feel like you have to put so 730 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: much pressure on It can just be a conversation at 731 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 1: a football game, at a tailgate, no business cards, no 732 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: linkedins unless they're older. Again, unless you're graduating in the eighties, yes, 733 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: get the LinkedIn, get the email. 734 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 3: But if they're like new. 735 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: School, get the Instagram, follow up with the DM, get 736 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 1: the LinkedIn, follow up with the DM. 737 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 3: If you want, keep it chill. 738 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: I don't feel like it has to be so much 739 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: pressure to find your job at homecoming. I just don't 740 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 1: think that's realistic to put that much pressure on yourself. 741 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 2: And that also made me think about the fact that 742 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 2: there are so many companies now who are coming into 743 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 2: these homecomings having their own booth, and I know I 744 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 2: feel about that. During my freshman homecoming HBO Max, I 745 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 2: think have their own like huge section and we're out 746 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 2: there trying to like network and get people to be 747 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 2: interested in jobs. And then Stacy Abrams was there doing 748 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,479 Speaker 2: like political stuff. There were several political organizations out there, 749 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 2: and I'm just like, what happens is fun. Like I 750 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 2: don't want to sound like I'm not engaged with the world, 751 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 2: because I am, but I don't know. I just feel 752 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 2: like it tanks to experience a little bit, and it 753 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 2: almost feels like manipulative, Like you're coming into the space 754 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 2: where you know there's going to be a lot of 755 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,919 Speaker 2: black people, and so you're using this opportunity to try 756 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 2: and get whatever your numbers are for your company, and 757 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 2: it just turns into like a career fair And I 758 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 2: just don't think it's supposed to give that. 759 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 4: I feel like it's supposed to give party, fun, family. 760 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 2: But now we have these companies coming in that are 761 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:37,799 Speaker 2: trying to like get you to sign up for their 762 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,359 Speaker 2: job board, Like I don't like that. 763 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, and the companies are going hard like I 764 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 1: don't know when Nike and like all those big companies 765 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 1: really started like leveraging HBCU homecoming culture and profiting off 766 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 1: of it, and of course using black artists and typical 767 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: HBCU grads. But I feel like there was a shift 768 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,399 Speaker 1: in years where where everything was like, oh, yeah, we're 769 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 1: going to be at this HCU homecoming, you should like 770 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,399 Speaker 1: go to our booth. And it's like, wait, when did 771 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 1: this shift happen? Because I felt like homecoming was just fun. 772 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: But I think that's just this generation of college Like 773 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 1: maybe that's the norm now and people are wanting to 774 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: put their businesses and their brands in the eyes of 775 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 1: college students during that weekend, maybe when they know they're 776 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 1: more relaxed. 777 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 3: Who knows. 778 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:29,280 Speaker 2: Hi, I'm sorry, Taylor. We'll return to Jana right after 779 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 2: the break. So we've touched on this a little bit 780 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 2: throughout the conversation, but now we're about to get into 781 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 2: the meat and potatoes. Let's talk about the spending that's 782 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 2: associated with homecoming. So we already know when homecome is 783 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 2: about to arrive. We're on fashion over on all of 784 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 2: our pretty little thing. We're on all of these websites 785 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 2: trying to get our outfits together for the various events, 786 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 2: and then you have to pay for the events themselves. 787 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 2: The tickets are not cheap. And on top of that, 788 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,319 Speaker 2: for things like tailgate, you got to secure your plate. 789 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,399 Speaker 2: You got to make sure that you're well fed. So 790 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 2: for all of these various costs that we know are 791 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 2: associated with homecoming, I'm wondering, what are your personal tips 792 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 2: when it comes to navigating those and how did you 793 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 2: navigate those when you were in college? 794 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 1: So I think the food caught my attention for a 795 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 1: few seconds. But the cool thing about when I was 796 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 1: in college again, I don't know, mighta change, But when 797 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 1: I was in college, tailgate plates didn't cost anything. It's 798 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,879 Speaker 1: free food. You just pull up. And if you good 799 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 1: relationship with the frat, the old heads. 800 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 4: You speak yep, yep. 801 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:36,399 Speaker 3: You need to. 802 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 1: Speak, You need to say hi, you need to be nice, 803 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 1: you need to talk, open your mouth and speak, you 804 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,799 Speaker 1: might get a plate. And you know, if you were 805 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 1: over the age of twenty one, an alcoholic beverage like 806 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:51,399 Speaker 1: you might get that. And the alums are paying for all, 807 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,240 Speaker 1: like so much money into that food. So they're providing 808 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 1: free food for the campus. So never had to really 809 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 1: worry about food. I think the biggest way to like 810 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,800 Speaker 1: do homecoming on a budget is to get your outfit 811 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 1: months in advance. Don't wait on that and like try 812 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,279 Speaker 1: to exput out your shipping. Don't do all of that. 813 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,760 Speaker 1: Reuse outfits, like you don't have to have a fresh 814 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 1: fit for every day you're there. You can reuse outfits. 815 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 1: No one's seen you. It's okay, you don't live on 816 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:22,239 Speaker 1: campus anymore, you're straight. I also think hitting up people 817 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 1: who you know still live in the area to stay 818 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,360 Speaker 1: with them. I think that was a big thing for me. 819 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,319 Speaker 1: I was not going to pay for like lodging. That 820 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 1: was never going to happen. I was gonna hit up 821 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 1: my friends. Can I crash on your couch for two days, 822 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,799 Speaker 1: like I'll survive. Like the flight was enough, but if 823 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 1: you are coming out of state, like making sure you're 824 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 1: budgeting like the flight or like the gas, because that 825 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 1: really can add up. And also taking time off of work, 826 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 1: like making sure that you have the money to do 827 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 1: it and not take a loss, because we're not taking 828 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,839 Speaker 1: losses financially just a party, Like we're too grown. We're 829 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,360 Speaker 1: too grown for that. So thinking ahead, booking everything ahead 830 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 1: was like really important west me and her go together 831 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 1: very bad. Two free check bags will do it for 832 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 1: me every time, Like you're never taking her from me, 833 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,440 Speaker 1: But I think again, Like I booked that month in advance, 834 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,399 Speaker 1: I got my outfit months in advance. I make sure 835 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,919 Speaker 1: when I graduated a couple weeks later, when my friends 836 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 1: are like, I miss you so much, I'm like, yeah, girl, 837 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,799 Speaker 1: well let's make sure I have a spot at your 838 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 1: house for homecoming. And like, I plan that month in advance, 839 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 1: so there was no confusion on that. So it literally 840 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 1: is just making sure you have the finances to do 841 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,759 Speaker 1: it without putting yourself into debt because it's not worth it. 842 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 1: Like maybe it is for some people, but I don't 843 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:40,880 Speaker 1: think it was worth it for me to go into 844 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 1: debt for seventy two hours of fun. But I'm curious, 845 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 1: Like for you as a student, do you have any 846 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:48,840 Speaker 1: tips financially for students. 847 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'll also start with the food point. So 848 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 2: everything you said was absolutely correct. You will get a 849 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 2: free play, but you do need to talk to be full, 850 00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 2: Like these are old heads. They want you to show 851 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 2: your manners. They want you to be like, hi, how 852 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 2: are you? They want you to talk speak if you 853 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 2: want your plate, point blank period. And as we already 854 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,400 Speaker 2: touched on, the fraternities have the best food. 855 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,600 Speaker 4: They really do. The queues stay on it. 856 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 1: With oh my God, the Moorehouse cues chicken today, the 857 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,240 Speaker 1: honey on the chickens cut out to the Moorehouse cues 858 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:21,799 Speaker 1: that is the best chicken. 859 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 2: Of They throw down, they throw down. But like I said, 860 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:26,799 Speaker 2: you do need to speak. You can't just go up 861 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,320 Speaker 2: and expect a free play. Like these are different organizations. 862 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 2: You do have to work your way in there to 863 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 2: get your plate. You got to earn that plate. You 864 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,279 Speaker 2: don't get for free. Really, you got it. You gotta 865 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 2: talk to get your plate. So I agree about that point. 866 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 2: When it comes to outfits, I just feel like you 867 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 2: need to rewear all stuff if you're worried about paying, 868 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 2: and don't let the fact that you don't have an 869 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,239 Speaker 2: outfit stop you from going out, because like you're gonna 870 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 2: miss out on so much. I want to our welcome 871 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 2: gym in my pajamas. I swear to God, true story. 872 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,239 Speaker 2: I went in my pajamas because I'm just like it's 873 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 2: between me either not going because I don't feel like 874 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 2: look for outfit, or I go and I go dress 875 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,759 Speaker 2: true to myself. So I went, I had a great 876 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 2: time in my pajamas and that was that, and I 877 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,440 Speaker 2: didn't care. So I just like, don't make such a 878 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,040 Speaker 2: big deal out of having an outfit, Like it's not 879 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 2: that big of a deal for real. And then we 880 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 2: didn't really touch on the events and the costs for 881 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 2: each event. The only thing I can really say about 882 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 2: that is that some schools I know. At spell House, 883 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 2: we have like little packages, so if you get the 884 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 2: tickets for all of the events at once, you'll get 885 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 2: a discount compared to doing like individual events. That's the 886 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:27,919 Speaker 2: only thing I can really tell you for real, because 887 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 2: they do be checking who has their ticket. They don't 888 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 2: play about that. I save your money in advance, like homecoming, 889 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 2: hap is the same time every year, it's Occtober. You 890 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 2: know what's coming. So if you want to go, save 891 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 2: your little one hundred and fifty at spell House, that's 892 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,239 Speaker 2: how much you really need to get in. 893 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,239 Speaker 3: One hundred and fifty dollars for all the events. 894 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,919 Speaker 2: Yes, it's the fashion show, the comedy show, the hip 895 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,719 Speaker 2: hop concert, the Neo soul concert, and then they have 896 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,239 Speaker 2: the student concert and the chance. 897 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 3: Oh they're making a part of it. 898 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:54,879 Speaker 4: They are. 899 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 1: And what's really sick is that on top of tuition, 900 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 1: I think that's in God, that's the sick part for me. 901 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,279 Speaker 3: That's interesting, unrealistic for. 902 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:04,840 Speaker 1: A lot of students too, who are paying out a 903 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,320 Speaker 1: pocket for college exactly exactly. 904 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:08,760 Speaker 4: And that's why I was last homecoming. 905 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 2: I really had to ask myself do I want to 906 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 2: pay this much money to see a little dirt And 907 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,400 Speaker 2: the answer was no. The answer was no, and I 908 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 2: had a great time in my dorm room. I saw 909 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 2: it all play out on Instagram and I was like, 910 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:19,719 Speaker 2: thank God, I didn't pay for this. And sometimes it 911 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 2: is better to just pay for individual events if you 912 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 2: know that you're not. 913 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 4: Going to go to all of them. 914 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:25,400 Speaker 2: And then another thing I wanted to touch on is 915 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,759 Speaker 2: make sure you're not getting scammed, because there was one 916 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,720 Speaker 2: year I had to call it my bank and dispute 917 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:33,239 Speaker 2: a charge because I had paid for tickets online. It 918 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 2: was like event bright and it was not the right 919 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,799 Speaker 2: ticket a lot of times. Because the tickets do sell 920 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,839 Speaker 2: out in spellhouse, you want to be the first one 921 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,359 Speaker 2: to get it, but just make sure that you're using 922 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,720 Speaker 2: the right links and don't get scammed because that happened 923 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 2: to me. Luckily I got my money back, but that 924 00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:48,360 Speaker 2: did happen. 925 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,240 Speaker 1: To a lot of scamming does occur because you're swapping 926 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,000 Speaker 1: your car and not really thinking about life. I'm a tapper. 927 00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 1: I'm just tapping my phone and not really thinking. So 928 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,719 Speaker 1: I definitely need second that do not get scammed during homecoming. 929 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,879 Speaker 1: It will make the homecoming not worth it. A minor 930 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,479 Speaker 1: inconvenience can really throw off the whole thing. It really 931 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:08,280 Speaker 1: can throw the entire thing for me. So don't get scammed. 932 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,080 Speaker 2: Thank god I got my money back, or else I 933 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,239 Speaker 2: wouldn't have been going nowhere as you should have. 934 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:18,600 Speaker 1: So let's switch to like safety at homecoming, from the 935 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 1: crowded tailgates to the wall to wall parties that we 936 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:25,080 Speaker 1: talked about earlier. It's important to always be mindful of 937 00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 1: your surroundings. So what other general tips you have for 938 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:32,160 Speaker 1: making sure you stay safe during these festivities on campus. 939 00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, so, as we already mentioned, I can't speak to 940 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 2: the party aspect, but what I will speak to is 941 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:41,920 Speaker 2: tailgate because what happened in my freshman tailgate was that 942 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,360 Speaker 2: the way it was set up like that, much like 943 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:47,840 Speaker 2: barricades and gates around right, and it's like huge, Spellhouse Homecoming, 944 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,120 Speaker 2: like its trails, two different campuses. It's like huge. So 945 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,000 Speaker 2: it was already hard enough to get in. Once I 946 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:54,839 Speaker 2: got in, I scoped the scenery out, I was ready 947 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:56,839 Speaker 2: to go. I had no idea how to get out 948 00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 2: because there was all these barricades. 949 00:42:58,760 --> 00:42:59,760 Speaker 4: Mind you was packed. 950 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,080 Speaker 2: Trying to walk to one booths to another is going 951 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:04,560 Speaker 2: to take you like ten minutes because you're trying to 952 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,160 Speaker 2: get through all these different people who are out there. 953 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,520 Speaker 2: So I most definitely had to jump a gate. I'm 954 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,960 Speaker 2: speaking my truth here on this podcast. I had to 955 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:13,640 Speaker 2: jump a gate to get out because I was just 956 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,839 Speaker 2: like claustrophobic. It was too many people around me. It 957 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:17,919 Speaker 2: was like going to be another twenty thirty minute walk 958 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:19,160 Speaker 2: for me to get to where I need to go. 959 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 4: I was lost. I jumped the gate. So in order to. 960 00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 2: Avoid situations like that, I feel like you need to 961 00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 2: come in with the game plan and map out how 962 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:28,759 Speaker 2: to get in and. 963 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:29,200 Speaker 4: How to get out. 964 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,360 Speaker 2: Know your exits essentially, because also it's hot, it's a 965 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,640 Speaker 2: bunch of people next to you. You might encounter some 966 00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,839 Speaker 2: room people. You don't want to be lost in alder 967 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,040 Speaker 2: To tailgate not knowing how to get back to your dorm. 968 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,960 Speaker 2: And that goes for more than tailgate, Like knowing your 969 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,600 Speaker 2: surroundings before you go anywhere is really important just for safety. 970 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,319 Speaker 2: And also share your location with people around you who 971 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,000 Speaker 2: might be able to help you and come and get you. 972 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,880 Speaker 2: So those will be my safety tips. But what about you. 973 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,839 Speaker 1: I definitely think sharing your location with people who are 974 00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,239 Speaker 1: not with you, so people in surrounding areas, if you 975 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:03,160 Speaker 1: have any sharing your location with your parents. It's not corny, 976 00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,839 Speaker 1: it's being safe, like it's just what it is. I 977 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:09,000 Speaker 1: also do agree with making sure you're aware of you're surrounding. 978 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,480 Speaker 1: So if you see a fight, maybe you should walk away. 979 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,480 Speaker 1: If you see an argument, maybe should walk away. If 980 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:20,719 Speaker 1: you are seeing an uncomfortable situation, walk away. Trusting your 981 00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,560 Speaker 1: gut is going to be really important. That central homecoming 982 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,080 Speaker 1: was so many people, and so I was doing like 983 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:29,400 Speaker 1: that lifeguard scan with my head. I'm looking everywhere, like 984 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,480 Speaker 1: making sure although i am drinking and I'm eating and 985 00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:36,680 Speaker 1: i'm talking, I'm socializing, that I'm aware of people around 986 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,919 Speaker 1: me and like watching people and watching their conversations because 987 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:40,680 Speaker 1: it's getting heated. 988 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,520 Speaker 3: Is it not being very aware? 989 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,920 Speaker 1: Because there's unfortunately a lot of situations where you're not aware, 990 00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,480 Speaker 1: and as a student, you can get harmed. You just 991 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,319 Speaker 1: don't want to be like all the news. That's just 992 00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,759 Speaker 1: not what you came for. You just want to have 993 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:58,200 Speaker 1: a good time. If you are participating in drinking, if 994 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 1: you are over the legal making sure that you're watching 995 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,840 Speaker 1: how much you're drinking, making sure that you're paying attention 996 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:10,160 Speaker 1: to your limit, knowing your limit, having your friends watch 997 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,520 Speaker 1: you as well, Like if you're coming with a group, 998 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,400 Speaker 1: have each other's back. You should never be going home alone. 999 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:17,480 Speaker 3: No one's drink should be on the floor. 1000 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:21,440 Speaker 1: All those basic things sound so cheesy, but it is real. 1001 00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,720 Speaker 1: It is so real to make sure you're paying attention 1002 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:27,200 Speaker 1: to those things because we see a spike and just violence, 1003 00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 1: we see a spike in alcohol poisoning. All those things 1004 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,319 Speaker 1: I know we saw like last year Howard's home coming, 1005 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,360 Speaker 1: people hopping the gate like you don't know who's coming 1006 00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,160 Speaker 1: to the tailgate. I'm not saying any of the people 1007 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:39,960 Speaker 1: who are hopping the gate were unsafe, but I'm just 1008 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,760 Speaker 1: saying it's not a protected space. 1009 00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:45,160 Speaker 3: This is a public space. 1010 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,400 Speaker 1: But people are coming in and coming out as they please, 1011 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:52,680 Speaker 1: So just making sure you're watching your stuff, yourself and 1012 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,840 Speaker 1: your group, I think is really important. And when it 1013 00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,920 Speaker 1: gets to dark house side, probably go home. The tailgate 1014 00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:59,680 Speaker 1: is probably over. Know that you don't have to be 1015 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:03,000 Speaker 1: outside all day. You can go home and pick it 1016 00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:04,240 Speaker 1: up the next day as well. 1017 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,920 Speaker 2: So yeah, and to add one more thing, I had 1018 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,719 Speaker 2: just spread an article recently about how sexual assault rates 1019 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,479 Speaker 2: go up during homecomings. Then I can imagine it's because 1020 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,239 Speaker 2: it's such a busy time that it could be so 1021 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,480 Speaker 2: easy to get away with something like that, because it's 1022 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,319 Speaker 2: just a lot going on at once. And of course, 1023 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,799 Speaker 2: as women, we can't prevent necessarily, and we shouldn't have 1024 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,600 Speaker 2: to write, but unfortunately we have to do to be precautionary. 1025 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:30,040 Speaker 2: And so one thing that I try to do is 1026 00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,440 Speaker 2: make sure that my drink is always covered. And if 1027 00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,600 Speaker 2: you put your drink down and you lose sight of 1028 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,319 Speaker 2: it for any second, just go ahead pour it out 1029 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,000 Speaker 2: twin like it's not that deep. You can get you 1030 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,200 Speaker 2: another drink. So that's the last thing that I wanted 1031 00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,680 Speaker 2: to add on the point of safety. So YEA, to 1032 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,759 Speaker 2: close this wonderful conversation, we're gonna have a little bit 1033 00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:53,360 Speaker 2: of a sappy question, which is what makes homecoming so valuable? 1034 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,600 Speaker 4: And what does homecoming mean to you? Jaana? 1035 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,720 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I feel like those again, like those 1036 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,719 Speaker 1: marketed brands, and it's a person like getting interviewed in 1037 00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:04,640 Speaker 1: their name and their college. 1038 00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:04,960 Speaker 3: Is in the corner. 1039 00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:09,279 Speaker 1: Homecoming means but no, I think it means I know, 1040 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:13,440 Speaker 1: homecoming means community. They paying to the shoe their university, 1041 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:15,400 Speaker 1: like I love it. I will watch it every year. 1042 00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:15,919 Speaker 3: I don't care. 1043 00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:19,600 Speaker 1: But I think definitely homecoming for me. I touched on 1044 00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,040 Speaker 1: this a little bit earlier, but like all the old 1045 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,040 Speaker 1: heads coming back, the memories that I have for football 1046 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:30,000 Speaker 1: games and tailgates and their stories and them being so 1047 00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,120 Speaker 1: happy to come back and them telling us at least 1048 00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,239 Speaker 1: that you and see, like the trials and tribulations and 1049 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,600 Speaker 1: being a black student in the seventies and the eighties 1050 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:41,799 Speaker 1: at a white school. It is priceless, like all the 1051 00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:46,320 Speaker 1: stories you can get. And I think living out their legacy, 1052 00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,880 Speaker 1: making our own legacy is really important. And so I 1053 00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,280 Speaker 1: think for sure, like it means legacy, it means community, 1054 00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:56,000 Speaker 1: and it means development. I feel like you're being developed 1055 00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:59,000 Speaker 1: in such a fast way. This is the place where 1056 00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:00,879 Speaker 1: you know a lot of your girls happened, a lot 1057 00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:06,120 Speaker 1: of events happen, pain, happiness, and you're able to come 1058 00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,319 Speaker 1: back and pay like respect to that version of you 1059 00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,000 Speaker 1: and then also live out another new version of you 1060 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:15,080 Speaker 1: that's past that point. So yeah, I think that's what 1061 00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:15,719 Speaker 1: it means to me. 1062 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,600 Speaker 3: But what about you? What does homecoming mean to you? 1063 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:23,359 Speaker 2: Homecoming to me means black joy, because when I look 1064 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,319 Speaker 2: at my own homecoming at spell House, I can never 1065 00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,160 Speaker 2: imagine another situation where there would be this many black 1066 00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,960 Speaker 2: people all under one roof. We're all just having fun 1067 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:33,959 Speaker 2: and connecting with each other, and so that's always really 1068 00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:38,000 Speaker 2: joyful to witness. Then I'll also say connection because, as 1069 00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,759 Speaker 2: you mentioned, getting to hear these kind of stories from 1070 00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:44,480 Speaker 2: older alum being passed down, and as I mentioned, it's 1071 00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,879 Speaker 2: kind of a tradition at Spellmen for people who stayed 1072 00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:49,560 Speaker 2: in your dorm to come and give you money, and 1073 00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:51,640 Speaker 2: they'll come by and they'll tell you stories about their 1074 00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,880 Speaker 2: time living in the dorm. Those stories are always priceless, 1075 00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:56,920 Speaker 2: and those are the moments where I really appreciate connecting 1076 00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:57,480 Speaker 2: with alum. 1077 00:48:57,840 --> 00:48:59,560 Speaker 4: So I would say black joy. 1078 00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:02,320 Speaker 2: And connection, those are my main homecoming buzzwords. Not to 1079 00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:03,319 Speaker 2: get too corporate, but. 1080 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:06,040 Speaker 3: I love it. 1081 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,920 Speaker 1: I love that and I'm really excited for you to 1082 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,680 Speaker 1: have two more homecomings. I feel like the best ones 1083 00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:13,479 Speaker 1: are waiting for you and real quick. 1084 00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:15,400 Speaker 2: We didn't hit this question, but I just thought of it, 1085 00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,680 Speaker 2: like what would be your dream homecoming concert lineup? Because 1086 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,520 Speaker 2: me personally, the perfect thing for me is if they 1087 00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,000 Speaker 2: did a Young Money reunion that would. 1088 00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,600 Speaker 3: Eat for a homecoming concert. 1089 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, I guess Drake has canceled to never mind, 1090 00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:30,759 Speaker 2: but like Lil Wayne and like old NICKI perform your 1091 00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,680 Speaker 2: old music, I would, Yeah, that would eat. 1092 00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:35,200 Speaker 4: I'm trying to think. 1093 00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,120 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think. I'm trying to think. So even see, 1094 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,560 Speaker 1: we always like a spring concert. We had walka Flakka, 1095 00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,479 Speaker 1: like we had Gunna for the virtual one. We had 1096 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,319 Speaker 1: like heavy hitters that would come to you and see 1097 00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,399 Speaker 1: and the budget was there so they would pull up. 1098 00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:53,040 Speaker 1: But I think I don't really care to see Young 1099 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:56,759 Speaker 1: Money now NICKI canceled me. I don't care to see 1100 00:49:56,760 --> 00:50:00,880 Speaker 1: her perform personally. I don't care to see Wayne personally. 1101 00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,200 Speaker 1: If we were in twenty twelve, yes you would catch 1102 00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,600 Speaker 1: me there, but honestly, I would be straight with like 1103 00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,400 Speaker 1: a little boozy. I feel like being in the South. 1104 00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,880 Speaker 1: I would want j Cole to pull up and do 1105 00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:17,600 Speaker 1: like his old music, like his Fayetteville heavy hitter music. 1106 00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:19,400 Speaker 1: I would want like a North Carolina reunion, like I 1107 00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,560 Speaker 1: wouldn't mind pd Paba popping up. I wouldn't mind Fantasia 1108 00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,279 Speaker 1: popping up. Other associates like if we can't really speak 1109 00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,239 Speaker 1: about they have been canceled for the most part, like 1110 00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,320 Speaker 1: Anthony Hilton, he could pull up for the soul performance. 1111 00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,960 Speaker 1: I think we can just have like a North Carolina Old. 1112 00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:34,600 Speaker 3: And new generation lineup. 1113 00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,080 Speaker 1: I think that would be so hard because I feel 1114 00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:40,400 Speaker 1: like we go hard for our artists and they also 1115 00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,040 Speaker 1: go hard for where they come from. It's kind of corny, 1116 00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:46,560 Speaker 1: but like no other so I think that could be cute. Okay, 1117 00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:48,440 Speaker 1: So where can we keep up with you? And what 1118 00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:50,279 Speaker 1: are your social media handles? 1119 00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,640 Speaker 2: Yes, I absolutely loved our conversation today and if the 1120 00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:55,800 Speaker 2: girls would like to keep up with me, my Instagram 1121 00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:59,239 Speaker 2: is at yours Traleia Zaria Zaria, sel z A r 1122 00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,280 Speaker 2: Ia and then I'm also on LinkedIn. If any Spilm 1123 00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,520 Speaker 2: and Alum are listening to this and feel inspire to 1124 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:08,000 Speaker 2: open their purse, Yes, Zoria Taylor on LinkedIn, you can 1125 00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:08,440 Speaker 2: hit me. 1126 00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:12,239 Speaker 1: Up open the purse and accept my LinkedIn request to 1127 00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:13,160 Speaker 1: open up both. 1128 00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:14,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, but Jina, what about you? 1129 00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:15,720 Speaker 3: Okay? 1130 00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,439 Speaker 1: So you can find me on Instagram at Jana dot 1131 00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:22,160 Speaker 1: lst Jyna dot Ellis and then my LinkedIn is just 1132 00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:23,879 Speaker 1: my name as well. I feel like if you type 1133 00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:25,839 Speaker 1: it in Google you can find it. But feel free 1134 00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,319 Speaker 1: to connect with me on LinkedIn. But yeah, Zaria, I 1135 00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:31,359 Speaker 1: loved our conversation. I'm so excited to see like you're 1136 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,520 Speaker 1: fit for homecoming. I'm excited and I just hope you 1137 00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:34,440 Speaker 1: have the best time. 1138 00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:36,680 Speaker 4: Thank you and my peop pajamas we'll. 1139 00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:39,120 Speaker 3: See okay well and they'll take it. 1140 00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:43,000 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I want to thank Jana for inviting me 1141 00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,439 Speaker 2: to be a part of this episode. Class is over 1142 00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,040 Speaker 2: for now, but here are some affirmations to take with you. 1143 00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,840 Speaker 2: Homecoming is meant to be fun. I can use this 1144 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:55,160 Speaker 2: time to do things that uplift me without worrying about 1145 00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:59,560 Speaker 2: outside stressors. I embrace this opportunity to engage in activities 1146 00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,560 Speaker 2: that bring me joy and interact with people who nourish 1147 00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,560 Speaker 2: my spirits. I have the agency to tailor my homecoming 1148 00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:09,560 Speaker 2: experience according to my personal desires, even if that means 1149 00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,680 Speaker 2: skipping the events that my friends are going to. To 1150 00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,440 Speaker 2: learn more about the work we're doing or to do 1151 00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,440 Speaker 2: more research on this topic, be sure to visit Therapy 1152 00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:20,799 Speaker 2: for Blackgirls dot com slash GBGU. 1153 00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,480 Speaker 1: This episode was produced by Elise Ellis Csaria Taylor. 1154 00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:25,920 Speaker 3: Editing is by Dennison L. 1155 00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:26,480 Speaker 2: Bradberg.