1 00:00:04,428 --> 00:00:06,668 Speaker 1: Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in 2 00:00:06,748 --> 00:00:14,628 Speaker 1: partnership with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:22,268 --> 00:00:23,068 Speaker 2: Good morning. 4 00:00:25,788 --> 00:00:27,948 Speaker 3: Welcome to Good Morning Football Live in New York City. 5 00:00:27,948 --> 00:00:30,428 Speaker 3: It's Tuesday, May seconds. I'm Jamie heard Al, Kyle Brant, 6 00:00:30,468 --> 00:00:33,828 Speaker 3: Mike yourfollow Jason mccordy, Mike yourfolo. I really feel like 7 00:00:34,428 --> 00:00:36,548 Speaker 3: pound for pound, you bring so much to the table 8 00:00:36,588 --> 00:00:40,668 Speaker 3: when you are here, whether it be football knowledge, news, intel, 9 00:00:41,188 --> 00:00:43,268 Speaker 3: random facts about like pound for pound. 10 00:00:43,388 --> 00:00:44,988 Speaker 4: Because he's not a big guy. Is that why you 11 00:00:44,988 --> 00:00:45,348 Speaker 4: said no. 12 00:00:45,548 --> 00:00:50,428 Speaker 3: It's more just about the content and the information. I mean, yeah, exactly. 13 00:00:51,108 --> 00:00:53,068 Speaker 3: So we appreciate you being here. 14 00:00:53,188 --> 00:00:53,628 Speaker 2: Thank you. 15 00:00:53,748 --> 00:00:57,388 Speaker 5: Yes, and listen, we can we open negotiations here with 16 00:00:57,428 --> 00:00:59,268 Speaker 5: you and by my side, and we can do that. 17 00:00:59,548 --> 00:01:00,308 Speaker 2: Are you doing it right now? 18 00:01:00,788 --> 00:01:01,228 Speaker 6: Go ahead? 19 00:01:01,708 --> 00:01:05,108 Speaker 3: Right again. We want to leave the conversation time to 20 00:01:05,108 --> 00:01:07,268 Speaker 3: the lead block. Let's just hear it. Kyle's got a 21 00:01:07,268 --> 00:01:08,668 Speaker 3: lot of things to say about some things that are 22 00:01:08,668 --> 00:01:09,788 Speaker 3: going on in the AFC. 23 00:01:09,868 --> 00:01:11,828 Speaker 2: There's a blue helmet. 24 00:01:11,148 --> 00:01:16,628 Speaker 3: Heads up, Buffalo Bill's slow mow footage, majestic people are running. 25 00:01:16,708 --> 00:01:18,988 Speaker 3: Football is being thrown, but it's who's doing throwing in 26 00:01:18,988 --> 00:01:19,348 Speaker 3: the ketchup. 27 00:01:19,388 --> 00:01:21,348 Speaker 7: Le's talk about this, Jamie people online are saying this 28 00:01:21,388 --> 00:01:25,508 Speaker 7: is actually a bad pass. They're saying it's behind Garrett Wilson. Jason, 29 00:01:25,508 --> 00:01:27,388 Speaker 7: what do you think, James get This. 30 00:01:27,428 --> 00:01:30,108 Speaker 4: Is current Jets fans. They're saying this is a bad. 31 00:01:29,908 --> 00:01:31,988 Speaker 2: I think it actually has more Dolphins, Bills and Patriots. 32 00:01:32,068 --> 00:01:34,828 Speaker 8: Yeah, I guess I can Mac, I can make half 33 00:01:34,828 --> 00:01:35,068 Speaker 8: of that. 34 00:01:35,388 --> 00:01:37,228 Speaker 3: I think we are May second and we should be 35 00:01:37,228 --> 00:01:39,468 Speaker 3: in the season of No matter where Aaron Rodgers is 36 00:01:39,468 --> 00:01:41,388 Speaker 3: putting that football is where he meant to put it. 37 00:01:41,348 --> 00:01:43,468 Speaker 3: It's just like, just deal with it. It looks great. 38 00:01:44,228 --> 00:01:46,708 Speaker 3: I think the Jets over use of the slow mo 39 00:01:46,908 --> 00:01:49,988 Speaker 3: video in the off season is kind of you know, 40 00:01:50,188 --> 00:01:53,348 Speaker 3: it's undermining everybody more cause for concerned the Dolphins and 41 00:01:53,348 --> 00:01:55,468 Speaker 3: now added some betteran talent that Davii and Howard showing 42 00:01:55,508 --> 00:01:58,628 Speaker 3: Dayalen Ramsey some love upon his arrival, showing around the 43 00:01:58,628 --> 00:02:01,588 Speaker 3: New Digs to the start corner in March, and then 44 00:02:02,228 --> 00:02:05,188 Speaker 3: the New England Patriots. Many at this table said that 45 00:02:05,268 --> 00:02:08,468 Speaker 3: Patriots plays do something splashy and exciting and jump up 46 00:02:08,508 --> 00:02:11,668 Speaker 3: and get that. They didn't, but they did make off 47 00:02:11,708 --> 00:02:14,988 Speaker 3: season additions period. They drafted a top corner, Chris Gonzale. 48 00:02:15,028 --> 00:02:18,108 Speaker 3: They added Jujus m. Schuster. They brought back Bill O'Brien 49 00:02:18,148 --> 00:02:21,028 Speaker 3: now as their offensive coordinator, but they did not bring 50 00:02:21,068 --> 00:02:24,068 Speaker 3: a new quarterback to the room. So Mac Jones team 51 00:02:24,148 --> 00:02:27,828 Speaker 3: it is. And here's Bill Belichick for more on that 52 00:02:27,868 --> 00:02:29,948 Speaker 3: topic from the end of last week. 53 00:02:31,388 --> 00:02:34,108 Speaker 2: Is Mac your quarterback as of right now? 54 00:02:38,668 --> 00:02:38,908 Speaker 6: Yeah? 55 00:02:38,948 --> 00:02:41,668 Speaker 9: I mean, look Mac, you know, Mac's been our quarterback 56 00:02:41,708 --> 00:02:45,308 Speaker 9: for two years. And as I tell the team, every year, 57 00:02:45,588 --> 00:02:48,148 Speaker 9: each player, each coach, you know, we all have to 58 00:02:48,188 --> 00:02:51,268 Speaker 9: re establish and prove ourselves every year. That's what this 59 00:02:51,348 --> 00:02:51,748 Speaker 9: league is. 60 00:02:52,908 --> 00:02:53,228 Speaker 7: Wow. 61 00:02:55,548 --> 00:02:58,108 Speaker 3: Resting pat face is what we came up with last hour. 62 00:02:58,148 --> 00:02:59,708 Speaker 3: And when that man has to speak to the media, 63 00:02:59,748 --> 00:03:01,868 Speaker 3: it's like even on a zoom in person whatever. It's 64 00:03:01,908 --> 00:03:05,228 Speaker 3: just that's the very patriot way answer, Patriot way on 65 00:03:05,268 --> 00:03:08,388 Speaker 3: the table. Can the Pats compete in the AFC East, 66 00:03:08,908 --> 00:03:11,468 Speaker 3: just in their division? Jason this we have to go first. 67 00:03:11,508 --> 00:03:15,068 Speaker 3: You have to go first. He who won a trophy 68 00:03:15,108 --> 00:03:16,868 Speaker 3: for the Patriots must. 69 00:03:16,428 --> 00:03:17,748 Speaker 4: Can you define compete? 70 00:03:18,588 --> 00:03:20,908 Speaker 3: Why don't you define compete for us? What that looks 71 00:03:20,948 --> 00:03:22,508 Speaker 3: like for your own interpretation. 72 00:03:22,748 --> 00:03:26,348 Speaker 8: I'm sure they're going to show up for the games compete. 73 00:03:26,508 --> 00:03:28,588 Speaker 8: I look at the knowing the Patriot you say, I 74 00:03:28,588 --> 00:03:30,748 Speaker 8: think the biggest thing. Obviously we'll probably get into a 75 00:03:30,788 --> 00:03:33,028 Speaker 8: Bill O'Brien is back, and obviously what they went through 76 00:03:33,108 --> 00:03:35,308 Speaker 8: last year on offense, he kind of brings in a 77 00:03:35,308 --> 00:03:37,148 Speaker 8: sound voice to somebody who's done it before. 78 00:03:37,868 --> 00:03:39,188 Speaker 4: New England competing. 79 00:03:38,828 --> 00:03:40,268 Speaker 8: In this division, do I look at it and I 80 00:03:40,268 --> 00:03:43,268 Speaker 8: always say, all right, on paper, of everything everybody's done, 81 00:03:43,468 --> 00:03:46,868 Speaker 8: they'd be last in the division. If Tua Tonguebailo is healthy. 82 00:03:46,868 --> 00:03:49,628 Speaker 8: For Miami, what they did last year, how good they 83 00:03:49,628 --> 00:03:51,988 Speaker 8: looked on offense with him out there, Aaron Rodgers now 84 00:03:52,028 --> 00:03:54,148 Speaker 8: coming over to join the Jets, who had a really 85 00:03:54,188 --> 00:03:57,308 Speaker 8: good defense last year, and then Buffalo Bills have just 86 00:03:57,348 --> 00:03:59,708 Speaker 8: been the cream of the crop in that division over 87 00:03:59,748 --> 00:04:02,028 Speaker 8: the last few years. And Josh Allen's going to be back. 88 00:04:02,068 --> 00:04:04,748 Speaker 8: You have no reason to believe that that's going to change. 89 00:04:05,308 --> 00:04:08,588 Speaker 8: But for the New England Patriots, I think improving on offense, 90 00:04:08,628 --> 00:04:10,748 Speaker 8: bringing back the coordinator, and then you couple. 91 00:04:10,468 --> 00:04:12,748 Speaker 4: That they were really good on defense last year. 92 00:04:12,828 --> 00:04:16,588 Speaker 8: They scored touchdowns seven different times, which led the NFL 93 00:04:16,668 --> 00:04:17,548 Speaker 8: as a team wrecker. 94 00:04:17,828 --> 00:04:19,308 Speaker 4: If they can improve upon that. 95 00:04:19,348 --> 00:04:21,948 Speaker 8: They lost an old guy in Devin mccordy, but was 96 00:04:21,988 --> 00:04:24,828 Speaker 8: able to bring Jalen Mills back after releasing them, bringing 97 00:04:24,948 --> 00:04:27,188 Speaker 8: a guy who played safety in his past with the 98 00:04:27,188 --> 00:04:30,188 Speaker 8: Philadelphia Eagles. They have a good mix of veterans there. 99 00:04:30,228 --> 00:04:32,348 Speaker 8: They brought some young guys in. I think they're going 100 00:04:32,388 --> 00:04:34,388 Speaker 8: to be able to compete in the division, but I 101 00:04:34,508 --> 00:04:37,468 Speaker 8: cannot look at it right now on May second and say, oh, right, yeah, 102 00:04:37,588 --> 00:04:40,548 Speaker 8: New England is right there with the rest of their division. 103 00:04:40,588 --> 00:04:43,068 Speaker 8: As I'm looking at it, they clearly look to be 104 00:04:43,228 --> 00:04:45,788 Speaker 8: the fourth team in the division. And it's not really 105 00:04:46,788 --> 00:04:50,348 Speaker 8: an indictment on them. They've made some improvements overthing else. 106 00:04:50,348 --> 00:04:52,148 Speaker 8: I think it's more about the other three teams in 107 00:04:52,148 --> 00:04:54,548 Speaker 8: the division and what they've done and how they've been 108 00:04:54,548 --> 00:04:57,908 Speaker 8: building for this upcoming season. Aaron Rodgers being the New 109 00:04:57,988 --> 00:05:00,108 Speaker 8: York Jets is huge. I think you could argue some 110 00:05:00,108 --> 00:05:02,668 Speaker 8: people say, hey, they're the favorite in the division, but 111 00:05:02,788 --> 00:05:05,868 Speaker 8: Josh Allen being there is huge as the New England pages, yes, 112 00:05:05,908 --> 00:05:08,548 Speaker 8: still compete, define compete, What does that mean. I don't 113 00:05:08,548 --> 00:05:11,148 Speaker 8: think they're right now trying to say, all right, they're 114 00:05:11,148 --> 00:05:12,908 Speaker 8: going to be the winners of the division. 115 00:05:13,028 --> 00:05:15,388 Speaker 5: If it happens. I mean, you mentioned Bill O'Brien. I 116 00:05:15,388 --> 00:05:17,548 Speaker 5: think that's gonna be the biggest fact. This team just 117 00:05:17,548 --> 00:05:19,668 Speaker 5: feels like it needs a joke right now. It needs 118 00:05:19,668 --> 00:05:22,868 Speaker 5: a You know, for years, Tom Brady was that joke, 119 00:05:23,028 --> 00:05:27,068 Speaker 5: was that spark. He was the guy demanding the excellence 120 00:05:27,108 --> 00:05:30,148 Speaker 5: out of everybody else, the one who when it didn't happen, 121 00:05:30,348 --> 00:05:34,748 Speaker 5: wasn't I remember him barking at offensive linemen for jumping 122 00:05:35,268 --> 00:05:37,788 Speaker 5: in a game in August, in a preseason game, and 123 00:05:37,948 --> 00:05:40,908 Speaker 5: just like as if it was the divisional round of 124 00:05:40,948 --> 00:05:42,748 Speaker 5: the playoffs, right, And I just feel like this team 125 00:05:42,748 --> 00:05:45,868 Speaker 5: needs it right And O'Brien, the man's nickname is Tea 126 00:05:45,948 --> 00:05:50,188 Speaker 5: Pott okay, right, why because he blows his top. I mean, 127 00:05:50,268 --> 00:05:52,348 Speaker 5: you remember that that scene of him and Brady back 128 00:05:52,388 --> 00:05:53,268 Speaker 5: in twenty eleven. 129 00:05:53,268 --> 00:05:54,828 Speaker 2: It was, I guess, screaming at each other. 130 00:05:55,068 --> 00:05:58,188 Speaker 5: I'm going to be vastly disappointed this upcoming season if 131 00:05:58,228 --> 00:06:01,948 Speaker 5: we don't see Mac Jones, who was screaming at Phil 132 00:06:02,268 --> 00:06:05,028 Speaker 5: Matt Patricia this past year, if those two don't go 133 00:06:05,148 --> 00:06:07,028 Speaker 5: at it on the sideline, and not in a bad 134 00:06:07,028 --> 00:06:09,188 Speaker 5: way to me, in a good way, because remember that 135 00:06:09,188 --> 00:06:11,148 Speaker 5: that Brady when they were yelling at each other and 136 00:06:11,148 --> 00:06:13,628 Speaker 5: then in the end they shook hands I remember hugged 137 00:06:13,628 --> 00:06:13,868 Speaker 5: it up. 138 00:06:13,908 --> 00:06:16,228 Speaker 8: My best friend was a receiver of Taekwan Underwood. He's 139 00:06:16,268 --> 00:06:17,868 Speaker 8: running an en route in the back of the end 140 00:06:17,948 --> 00:06:21,028 Speaker 8: zone and gets intercepted, and Brady was mad as hell 141 00:06:21,468 --> 00:06:24,188 Speaker 8: at Underwood, and Bill O'Brien was just like, no, it 142 00:06:24,228 --> 00:06:27,428 Speaker 8: was your pass, this, that and the third. And I 143 00:06:27,428 --> 00:06:29,788 Speaker 8: don't know if Taikwan got another pass from Brady that year. 144 00:06:31,508 --> 00:06:33,948 Speaker 5: So he was the guy in between that spark top 145 00:06:34,228 --> 00:06:35,748 Speaker 5: and all of that, and then they went to the 146 00:06:35,748 --> 00:06:36,228 Speaker 5: Super Bowl. 147 00:06:36,348 --> 00:06:38,268 Speaker 4: Right, It's just you know, that's that's. 148 00:06:38,148 --> 00:06:38,988 Speaker 2: Kind of what I want to see. 149 00:06:38,988 --> 00:06:41,548 Speaker 5: That little it's it's it's gonna be good friction that 150 00:06:41,668 --> 00:06:44,348 Speaker 5: you know. Let me see a pulse this year Patriots. 151 00:06:44,188 --> 00:06:47,308 Speaker 2: Free Taekwon Underwood. That's that's not right. What happened Brady did. 152 00:06:47,708 --> 00:06:49,388 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what's not right. I'm pretty sure he 153 00:06:49,428 --> 00:06:50,788 Speaker 2: got cut soon. 154 00:06:50,748 --> 00:06:51,668 Speaker 4: Night before the Super Bowl. 155 00:06:51,748 --> 00:06:54,028 Speaker 2: Yeah, in Indianapolis or Saturday. 156 00:06:54,428 --> 00:06:56,668 Speaker 3: Now, the Panthers receivers coach indeed. 157 00:06:56,708 --> 00:06:58,948 Speaker 2: Well look at that, all right? Good? Where'd you get that? 158 00:06:59,628 --> 00:07:02,068 Speaker 3: Talks about how and he coached Jordison Jordan Adison before 159 00:07:02,108 --> 00:07:03,668 Speaker 3: he actually. 160 00:07:03,348 --> 00:07:06,068 Speaker 8: Listened to me, I really do this guy over here 161 00:07:06,148 --> 00:07:10,428 Speaker 8: is like. 162 00:07:10,788 --> 00:07:12,508 Speaker 3: This is not just me playing to that camera. 163 00:07:12,908 --> 00:07:16,948 Speaker 7: Actually that I was just mic when he was saying that, 164 00:07:16,988 --> 00:07:21,108 Speaker 7: you know, they need a jolt like jolt Cola. Remember 165 00:07:21,108 --> 00:07:23,228 Speaker 7: back in the day, Oh yeah, it said right on 166 00:07:23,228 --> 00:07:25,428 Speaker 7: the label twice the caffeine. It was that they were 167 00:07:25,468 --> 00:07:27,748 Speaker 7: not hiding anything, and I thought they would get a 168 00:07:27,828 --> 00:07:29,908 Speaker 7: jolt at the draft. All my instincts were saying, hold 169 00:07:29,948 --> 00:07:33,228 Speaker 7: on a second, Camelot is crumbling, the empire is ending. 170 00:07:33,388 --> 00:07:34,868 Speaker 7: They're the worst team in the league or the least 171 00:07:34,908 --> 00:07:37,708 Speaker 7: talented team. The patriock can do something bold or dynamic. 172 00:07:37,748 --> 00:07:39,388 Speaker 7: They're going to go get a quarterback, or they're going 173 00:07:39,468 --> 00:07:40,748 Speaker 7: to get way up and get one of the best 174 00:07:40,788 --> 00:07:43,588 Speaker 7: defensive players. This sat there, moved around a little bit, 175 00:07:43,588 --> 00:07:45,828 Speaker 7: and they drafted a corner and that's great and I 176 00:07:45,868 --> 00:07:48,508 Speaker 7: hope he's going to be a great player. How are 177 00:07:48,508 --> 00:07:51,428 Speaker 7: they scoring this year? So from last year? Is really 178 00:07:51,468 --> 00:07:54,708 Speaker 7: bad offense? They lose their leading receiver, they lose their 179 00:07:54,748 --> 00:07:57,988 Speaker 7: second leading rusher, they didn't add a quarterback, they changed coordinators. 180 00:07:58,428 --> 00:08:00,788 Speaker 7: How are they scoring with Buffalo? How are they scoring 181 00:08:00,828 --> 00:08:03,308 Speaker 7: with Mike? I just don't know. Also, like, just what 182 00:08:03,508 --> 00:08:05,988 Speaker 7: is this team? Like you mentioned, there's no Brady. Who's 183 00:08:06,028 --> 00:08:07,668 Speaker 7: the best player on the Patriots right now? If you're 184 00:08:07,668 --> 00:08:10,988 Speaker 7: an issues, you are the best player. I think it's 185 00:08:11,068 --> 00:08:11,428 Speaker 7: Jude On. 186 00:08:11,748 --> 00:08:12,988 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, that's great. 187 00:08:13,028 --> 00:08:14,788 Speaker 7: He's a really good pass rusher, but like he's not 188 00:08:14,828 --> 00:08:17,908 Speaker 7: playing offense and you can probably get around him if 189 00:08:17,908 --> 00:08:20,148 Speaker 7: you scheme against it. Like it's just there's nobody who's 190 00:08:20,188 --> 00:08:22,068 Speaker 7: going to be like we're going up to Buffalo and 191 00:08:22,108 --> 00:08:23,668 Speaker 7: I'm gonna put this team on my back. And I 192 00:08:23,668 --> 00:08:25,828 Speaker 7: don't know if it's Mac Jones. It's certainly not their 193 00:08:25,828 --> 00:08:28,428 Speaker 7: first round draft pic or rookie corner. So the jolt 194 00:08:28,508 --> 00:08:31,188 Speaker 7: is not there. It's flat. It's caffeine free. And as 195 00:08:31,268 --> 00:08:34,788 Speaker 7: much as I respect Belichick's accomplishments, he's sub five hundred 196 00:08:34,828 --> 00:08:36,868 Speaker 7: since Brady left. And if you go seven and ten 197 00:08:36,908 --> 00:08:39,068 Speaker 7: this year, it's like, all right, we love you and you're, 198 00:08:39,148 --> 00:08:40,748 Speaker 7: you know, the greatest ever. But like we got to 199 00:08:40,868 --> 00:08:42,428 Speaker 7: ron meyo here and like we gotta get this thing going. 200 00:08:42,708 --> 00:08:44,948 Speaker 7: I mean it, like if they have like a flat, 201 00:08:44,988 --> 00:08:48,268 Speaker 7: listless season, it's time for change, Like the winds will 202 00:08:48,268 --> 00:08:48,548 Speaker 7: be bun. 203 00:08:48,828 --> 00:08:50,548 Speaker 3: I went big picture on this when we started to 204 00:08:50,548 --> 00:08:52,908 Speaker 3: talk about the Patriots, because frankly, there just wasn't enough 205 00:08:52,908 --> 00:08:54,348 Speaker 3: there to be able to like, let me write all 206 00:08:54,348 --> 00:08:56,908 Speaker 3: these notes about the Patriots because of everything that everybody 207 00:08:56,988 --> 00:08:59,388 Speaker 3: just said, So I went more just like life experience 208 00:08:59,468 --> 00:09:01,948 Speaker 3: right now. For New England sports fans, let me ask 209 00:09:01,948 --> 00:09:04,028 Speaker 3: you a question at the table. What's more uncomfortable the 210 00:09:04,108 --> 00:09:06,468 Speaker 3: years from twenty one to eighteen when it felt like 211 00:09:06,628 --> 00:09:09,708 Speaker 3: every year at one of the four major franchises in 212 00:09:09,708 --> 00:09:11,948 Speaker 3: New England was winning something. Between the Bruins of Celtics, 213 00:09:11,988 --> 00:09:15,748 Speaker 3: the Red Sox and Patriots, it was so obnoxious unless 214 00:09:15,788 --> 00:09:18,628 Speaker 3: you were in that pocket of the country. How great 215 00:09:18,788 --> 00:09:22,228 Speaker 3: Boston sports was at the time or is it since 216 00:09:22,268 --> 00:09:25,348 Speaker 3: twenty eighteen where we are just waiting for it to 217 00:09:25,468 --> 00:09:28,668 Speaker 3: I mean, there is something that people are enamored with, 218 00:09:28,708 --> 00:09:31,268 Speaker 3: whether whether you hate it or you love it. That 219 00:09:31,348 --> 00:09:34,748 Speaker 3: about Boston sports, specifically the Patriots and being atop the 220 00:09:34,788 --> 00:09:37,508 Speaker 3: AFC East. They had their guys, they had star power, 221 00:09:37,588 --> 00:09:40,388 Speaker 3: they were winning, they wearing Super Bowls every other year. 222 00:09:40,548 --> 00:09:43,708 Speaker 3: The rest of the franchises. The Bruins kicked one two 223 00:09:43,788 --> 00:09:46,068 Speaker 3: nights ago, the Celtics gave up game one of their 224 00:09:46,108 --> 00:09:49,108 Speaker 3: and the Red Sox are five hundred. There is nothing 225 00:09:49,228 --> 00:09:51,068 Speaker 3: good going on in New England right now in terms 226 00:09:51,108 --> 00:09:53,588 Speaker 3: of the sports, and this is an uncomfortable place I think 227 00:09:53,628 --> 00:09:56,988 Speaker 3: for football fans to be in with the Patriots because 228 00:09:57,228 --> 00:10:00,348 Speaker 3: you cannot figure them out. And that quote the Felati 229 00:10:00,468 --> 00:10:04,748 Speaker 3: blessed you said a couple of weeks ago, right, the 230 00:10:04,868 --> 00:10:06,668 Speaker 3: quote that Bill Belichicks said a couple of weeks ago 231 00:10:06,908 --> 00:10:09,468 Speaker 3: about look the past twenty five years of my success. 232 00:10:09,468 --> 00:10:12,468 Speaker 3: And he was flirting dangerously with saying like, don't you worry, 233 00:10:12,508 --> 00:10:14,548 Speaker 3: We'll figure it out. We are worried. People are worried. 234 00:10:14,548 --> 00:10:17,548 Speaker 3: What are you doing because your division got better without you? 235 00:10:17,548 --> 00:10:17,908 Speaker 4: You're good? 236 00:10:17,988 --> 00:10:18,708 Speaker 2: What's yeah? 237 00:10:19,228 --> 00:10:20,628 Speaker 7: I was just thinking about that kid who used to 238 00:10:20,628 --> 00:10:22,508 Speaker 7: shoved all the parades and hold up that sign that 239 00:10:22,548 --> 00:10:24,828 Speaker 7: said I've had this many trophies since I've been a lot. 240 00:10:25,188 --> 00:10:27,468 Speaker 3: So what's more annoying? Is it that kid or is 241 00:10:27,468 --> 00:10:28,988 Speaker 3: it the fact that the Patriots can't figure it out 242 00:10:28,988 --> 00:10:30,268 Speaker 3: of the last couple of years. 243 00:10:30,188 --> 00:10:32,428 Speaker 2: That kid, not that kid specifically, but the. 244 00:10:33,068 --> 00:10:34,348 Speaker 3: Life experience of New England. 245 00:10:34,348 --> 00:10:35,188 Speaker 2: And there, I don't know. 246 00:10:35,228 --> 00:10:36,948 Speaker 5: I kind of want my cake and eat it too 247 00:10:37,388 --> 00:10:40,548 Speaker 5: here because every year we would cover the Super Bowl 248 00:10:40,588 --> 00:10:43,788 Speaker 5: and the Patriots would be in this yeah every yes again, 249 00:10:43,868 --> 00:10:46,468 Speaker 5: and it's just like one year it was like, oh 250 00:10:46,508 --> 00:10:48,948 Speaker 5: there's a second mccordy. Now this time okay, cool, a 251 00:10:48,948 --> 00:10:54,428 Speaker 5: little fresh storyline, a little appreciated there. It's like you're 252 00:10:54,468 --> 00:10:56,868 Speaker 5: pining for those days though you had the villain, right, 253 00:10:56,908 --> 00:10:58,948 Speaker 5: you had the evil empire that everybody's trying. 254 00:10:58,748 --> 00:11:00,228 Speaker 3: To Yes, there's no villain. 255 00:11:00,308 --> 00:11:00,908 Speaker 2: It feels weird. 256 00:11:00,908 --> 00:11:03,108 Speaker 5: We keep waiting for the comeback and pop back up, 257 00:11:03,148 --> 00:11:05,148 Speaker 5: and it's just so to answer your initial question, which 258 00:11:05,148 --> 00:11:07,308 Speaker 5: I think was awkward, this is more awkward right now. 259 00:11:07,348 --> 00:11:09,308 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well they're not. I don't know if they're 260 00:11:09,348 --> 00:11:09,948 Speaker 2: popping back up. 261 00:11:09,988 --> 00:11:12,028 Speaker 7: It's almost like the player who was holding up the 262 00:11:12,148 --> 00:11:14,988 Speaker 7: entire tenth left and without him, it wasn't the coach, 263 00:11:15,028 --> 00:11:17,268 Speaker 7: it was the quarterback, you know. I mean, let's find 264 00:11:17,268 --> 00:11:18,548 Speaker 7: out what are we doing here. We're gonna make the 265 00:11:18,548 --> 00:11:20,788 Speaker 7: playoffs this year. We're gonna do anything. It's been years me. 266 00:11:20,908 --> 00:11:29,268 Speaker 9: Tough shotgun snaps short dropped by Burrow, the pressure. 267 00:11:31,268 --> 00:11:33,668 Speaker 4: Chase straight ahead into the end zone. 268 00:11:33,788 --> 00:11:38,588 Speaker 2: He touchdown, car old back, big rush and j hess 269 00:11:38,908 --> 00:11:39,868 Speaker 2: and down it goes. 270 00:11:39,948 --> 00:11:43,108 Speaker 7: Makes the snap looks like pumps Wattaker pressure at Barren 271 00:11:43,428 --> 00:11:45,228 Speaker 7: sacked by Miles Garrett. 272 00:11:45,308 --> 00:11:46,588 Speaker 10: Jackson will keep but he's got rule. 273 00:11:46,628 --> 00:11:47,268 Speaker 4: He's at a thirty. 274 00:11:47,348 --> 00:11:50,068 Speaker 10: It's a like Grace forty Lamar Jackson midfield and going 275 00:11:50,268 --> 00:11:51,588 Speaker 10: touch down. 276 00:11:52,308 --> 00:11:54,388 Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson as quick as a hiccup. 277 00:11:59,188 --> 00:12:01,988 Speaker 3: Oh man, looking at that game played in snow makes 278 00:12:02,068 --> 00:12:04,628 Speaker 3: us happy that we're playing a game now called spring 279 00:12:04,628 --> 00:12:06,988 Speaker 3: where we focus on one division every day, and we're 280 00:12:06,988 --> 00:12:09,188 Speaker 3: going to evaluate how those teams did in the twenty 281 00:12:09,228 --> 00:12:11,628 Speaker 3: twenty three NFL Draft, and you can braid in next 282 00:12:11,628 --> 00:12:13,348 Speaker 3: season in the current players if you'd like. Today it's 283 00:12:13,348 --> 00:12:15,788 Speaker 3: gonna be the AFC North. They loaded up in this 284 00:12:15,868 --> 00:12:19,228 Speaker 3: year's draft because everybody won the draft. If you ask them, Jason, 285 00:12:19,228 --> 00:12:21,148 Speaker 3: why don't you start us off with your thoughts on 286 00:12:21,188 --> 00:12:23,588 Speaker 3: what the Browns did last weekend? As Kyle said yesterday, 287 00:12:23,708 --> 00:12:25,268 Speaker 3: kind of an under the radar team right now. 288 00:12:25,308 --> 00:12:27,308 Speaker 4: Yes, let's talk about the Cleveland Browns. They are under 289 00:12:27,348 --> 00:12:27,908 Speaker 4: the radar. 290 00:12:27,708 --> 00:12:30,228 Speaker 8: Team because we don't talk about them much in their division. 291 00:12:30,468 --> 00:12:33,148 Speaker 8: They got another weapon for Deshaun Watson, the guy that 292 00:12:33,228 --> 00:12:36,788 Speaker 8: can go opposite of Amari Cooper, guy that was at Tennessee, 293 00:12:36,788 --> 00:12:39,668 Speaker 8: played some really good football. Father was in the NFL 294 00:12:39,828 --> 00:12:43,228 Speaker 8: as well. They got big thanals. This guy is huge, 295 00:12:43,308 --> 00:12:45,628 Speaker 8: six eight, three hundred and something pounds. There were a 296 00:12:45,628 --> 00:12:47,948 Speaker 8: little question marks about his workout, think and what he's 297 00:12:47,948 --> 00:12:50,388 Speaker 8: going to do. We will find out. These two guys 298 00:12:50,388 --> 00:12:52,748 Speaker 8: at the top high school teammates now right and the 299 00:12:52,828 --> 00:12:54,268 Speaker 8: same NFL team. 300 00:12:54,348 --> 00:12:54,868 Speaker 4: Really cool. 301 00:12:55,228 --> 00:12:57,708 Speaker 8: Luke Whipler went to the same high school as I did. 302 00:12:58,028 --> 00:13:01,268 Speaker 8: This guy is actually a stand up comedian, has done 303 00:13:01,308 --> 00:13:02,388 Speaker 8: it a few times. 304 00:13:02,428 --> 00:13:02,908 Speaker 3: That's awesome. 305 00:13:02,948 --> 00:13:06,708 Speaker 4: Stand up community comedian Luke Whippler. This team is going 306 00:13:06,788 --> 00:13:07,428 Speaker 4: to be a lot of fun. 307 00:13:07,468 --> 00:13:09,668 Speaker 8: They do not have a first round draft pick until 308 00:13:09,708 --> 00:13:11,228 Speaker 8: twenty twenty five, so they. 309 00:13:11,148 --> 00:13:12,228 Speaker 4: Got a lot of these guys. 310 00:13:12,228 --> 00:13:15,708 Speaker 8: In the middle of the draft said his best friend 311 00:13:15,788 --> 00:13:18,348 Speaker 8: is going to be Miles Garrett. Miles doesn't know it 312 00:13:18,428 --> 00:13:21,108 Speaker 8: that the EKU said his favorite player and his best 313 00:13:21,108 --> 00:13:23,748 Speaker 8: friend is going to be Miles Garrett. This is a 314 00:13:23,788 --> 00:13:27,228 Speaker 8: team that may surprise some people in their division. Deshaun 315 00:13:27,268 --> 00:13:29,828 Speaker 8: Watson should be better this season to go along with 316 00:13:29,868 --> 00:13:32,788 Speaker 8: some of the guys that they got in this year's draft. 317 00:13:32,988 --> 00:13:34,748 Speaker 3: Shout out St. Joe's it's always. 318 00:13:34,508 --> 00:13:36,748 Speaker 4: Great to get We gotta get them in here. 319 00:13:36,948 --> 00:13:39,068 Speaker 8: But he probably doesn't want all the Vets to know 320 00:13:39,148 --> 00:13:42,228 Speaker 8: because you say you're a stand up comedian. You guarantee 321 00:13:42,228 --> 00:13:44,268 Speaker 8: he's going to be in front of the room having 322 00:13:44,308 --> 00:13:46,948 Speaker 8: to perform for all of the veterans throughout training camp. 323 00:13:47,068 --> 00:13:49,908 Speaker 7: Is there a Jersey chuckle hut like stand up place 324 00:13:49,948 --> 00:13:51,348 Speaker 7: do you want to shout out that he might have performed. 325 00:13:51,348 --> 00:13:56,148 Speaker 8: There's one down in the Central Jersey, New area called 326 00:13:56,148 --> 00:13:57,148 Speaker 8: the laugh. 327 00:13:57,028 --> 00:13:58,468 Speaker 4: Factory stress Factory. 328 00:13:58,548 --> 00:14:00,908 Speaker 8: Yes, that's found there, so maybe he's performing there. 329 00:14:00,948 --> 00:14:03,148 Speaker 2: We'll find it like the funniest place ever here, a 330 00:14:03,268 --> 00:14:03,988 Speaker 2: stress factory. 331 00:14:03,988 --> 00:14:06,468 Speaker 5: That's before I go on the mine, I'm gonna add 332 00:14:06,548 --> 00:14:07,468 Speaker 5: I'm gonna add one more? 333 00:14:07,628 --> 00:14:08,828 Speaker 2: Can I write here? Can I rin on this? 334 00:14:08,948 --> 00:14:09,108 Speaker 9: Yeah? 335 00:14:09,148 --> 00:14:09,948 Speaker 3: Go ahead. 336 00:14:10,388 --> 00:14:14,668 Speaker 5: An undrafted player the Cleveland Browns, Charlie Thomas, linebacker out 337 00:14:14,708 --> 00:14:16,868 Speaker 5: of Georgia Tech. I just happened to catch him. He 338 00:14:16,948 --> 00:14:19,228 Speaker 5: caught my eye a couple of times last year. Kid's 339 00:14:19,228 --> 00:14:21,708 Speaker 5: a playmaker, right and go to watch the pit game 340 00:14:21,708 --> 00:14:23,108 Speaker 5: the way that he really took it over when he 341 00:14:23,388 --> 00:14:25,028 Speaker 5: had a targeting call, so he didn't play till the 342 00:14:25,068 --> 00:14:27,468 Speaker 5: second half. He comes in pretty much took over the 343 00:14:27,508 --> 00:14:29,468 Speaker 5: second half. He was kind of a tweeener though he 344 00:14:29,468 --> 00:14:31,308 Speaker 5: was a little lighter, so that's why he went undrafted. 345 00:14:31,308 --> 00:14:32,948 Speaker 5: But that guy's gonna make the team. I'm telling you 346 00:14:33,028 --> 00:14:37,108 Speaker 5: right now. Bold Predictions training camp Ballance. All right, I'm 347 00:14:37,148 --> 00:14:39,868 Speaker 5: moving on to the Cincinnati Bengals here. I talked a 348 00:14:39,908 --> 00:14:42,308 Speaker 5: little bit about Miles Murphy yesterday and about how as 349 00:14:42,348 --> 00:14:43,748 Speaker 5: soon as that card went in, as soon as that 350 00:14:43,748 --> 00:14:46,028 Speaker 5: pick was announced, I was like, Yeah, that's gonna work. 351 00:14:46,188 --> 00:14:48,228 Speaker 5: That's gonna make a ton of sense in lou Atirumo's 352 00:14:48,428 --> 00:14:51,348 Speaker 5: Bengals defense. But Marion Hobby is the defensive line coach 353 00:14:51,628 --> 00:14:55,068 Speaker 5: for the Cincinnati Bengals, and he has a history at Clemson. 354 00:14:55,108 --> 00:14:56,828 Speaker 5: He was there a couple of years ago, so you know, 355 00:14:56,948 --> 00:15:00,228 Speaker 5: he got good reports on Miles Murphy and he there 356 00:15:00,268 --> 00:15:01,868 Speaker 5: was like a question, is he too tight? 357 00:15:01,988 --> 00:15:03,588 Speaker 2: You know, is he not loose enough for a little bit? 358 00:15:03,628 --> 00:15:05,308 Speaker 5: And you know, Marion, he was like, no, this is 359 00:15:05,308 --> 00:15:07,028 Speaker 5: a guy who's going to play and he's going to 360 00:15:07,068 --> 00:15:08,388 Speaker 5: play really well for our team. 361 00:15:08,428 --> 00:15:09,628 Speaker 2: So I like that pick right there. 362 00:15:09,668 --> 00:15:13,428 Speaker 5: DJ Turner, the cornerback from Michigan last year, had ten 363 00:15:13,468 --> 00:15:14,908 Speaker 5: pass breakups last season. 364 00:15:15,468 --> 00:15:17,468 Speaker 2: He's a little smaller, but this is the quote from him. 365 00:15:17,508 --> 00:15:20,308 Speaker 5: I've been on the later side my whole life, so 366 00:15:20,348 --> 00:15:22,668 Speaker 5: he knows how to play at that way, kind of 367 00:15:22,708 --> 00:15:24,588 Speaker 5: like Bryce Young talking about this is the size I've 368 00:15:24,588 --> 00:15:25,588 Speaker 5: been my entire life. 369 00:15:25,748 --> 00:15:27,548 Speaker 2: DJ Turner kind of the same way. Then he got 370 00:15:27,628 --> 00:15:28,268 Speaker 2: Jordan Battle. 371 00:15:28,628 --> 00:15:31,748 Speaker 5: They had their safety depth chart rated via free agency, 372 00:15:31,948 --> 00:15:34,548 Speaker 5: so they needed to add somebody here, and they added 373 00:15:34,588 --> 00:15:36,948 Speaker 5: Jordan Battle. You could do worse things than adding in 374 00:15:37,028 --> 00:15:40,668 Speaker 5: Alabama safety. There, third team Apol American with seventy one 375 00:15:40,668 --> 00:15:44,268 Speaker 5: tackles last year. And then Brad Robbins we have video 376 00:15:44,348 --> 00:15:46,748 Speaker 5: of I want to supposedly he thought he was getting pranked. 377 00:15:46,828 --> 00:15:47,628 Speaker 2: I thought he was getting a. 378 00:15:47,588 --> 00:15:49,868 Speaker 5: Prank call when they called him really, which Mike rob 379 00:15:49,908 --> 00:15:51,508 Speaker 5: told the story the other day about how he hung 380 00:15:51,588 --> 00:15:54,068 Speaker 5: up on Scott mcclu and y because he thought he 381 00:15:54,228 --> 00:15:55,308 Speaker 5: was the people. 382 00:15:55,108 --> 00:15:57,388 Speaker 8: Were Thomasinew got a prank call, who got drafted by 383 00:15:57,468 --> 00:15:58,748 Speaker 8: the Bengals as well some years there. 384 00:15:58,748 --> 00:16:00,948 Speaker 5: You go, Now watch the form here, Look boom. He 385 00:16:01,028 --> 00:16:03,388 Speaker 5: kicks the ball very high and he kicks it very far. 386 00:16:03,468 --> 00:16:05,468 Speaker 5: That is my analysis. Brad Robins, pretty cool. 387 00:16:05,628 --> 00:16:09,148 Speaker 3: The Michigan punter kicker being drafted is like the highest 388 00:16:09,628 --> 00:16:12,508 Speaker 3: kicking pair from one school has been drafted ever. 389 00:16:12,628 --> 00:16:14,188 Speaker 8: Right, I thought you, I thought you were going to 390 00:16:14,268 --> 00:16:16,868 Speaker 8: break down, Like how fast he got the ball off. 391 00:16:16,908 --> 00:16:17,868 Speaker 4: What his hang time was. 392 00:16:17,868 --> 00:16:19,828 Speaker 8: If you're going to give us punter footage, you're gotta 393 00:16:19,868 --> 00:16:20,748 Speaker 8: give us some type of break. 394 00:16:20,908 --> 00:16:25,228 Speaker 5: Broke it down high and far. What more could you 395 00:16:25,308 --> 00:16:26,348 Speaker 5: ask for it from a punter? 396 00:16:26,588 --> 00:16:28,068 Speaker 3: I beat this kN pig once. 397 00:16:28,228 --> 00:16:28,748 Speaker 6: Talk about it. 398 00:16:29,308 --> 00:16:31,388 Speaker 3: Play a game of pig at Alabama. Out of the 399 00:16:31,508 --> 00:16:34,708 Speaker 3: Arkansas game, Bryce Young, Jamison Williams, Jordan Battle, this one 400 00:16:34,748 --> 00:16:36,388 Speaker 3: talks to talk. He said he was the best basketball 401 00:16:36,388 --> 00:16:38,388 Speaker 3: player on the team. Granted we were not allowed to 402 00:16:38,388 --> 00:16:40,108 Speaker 3: be within six feet of each other, so we had 403 00:16:40,108 --> 00:16:42,948 Speaker 3: to play pig. I felt like best basketball player versus 404 00:16:42,948 --> 00:16:45,748 Speaker 3: the best shooter. But I beat Bryce Young, Jamison Williams, 405 00:16:45,748 --> 00:16:46,588 Speaker 3: and Jordan Battle with the games. 406 00:16:46,708 --> 00:16:48,748 Speaker 4: Why do you struggle so much on the Fisher price? 407 00:16:49,308 --> 00:16:53,068 Speaker 3: Because it's it's a toy, Jason, It's a toy, Kyle go. 408 00:16:53,668 --> 00:16:56,148 Speaker 2: The Ravens got themselves a toy and his name is 409 00:16:56,188 --> 00:16:58,388 Speaker 2: a Flowers. This is what they did. 410 00:16:58,428 --> 00:17:00,348 Speaker 7: So they get Lamar and they finally reached a deal 411 00:17:00,348 --> 00:17:02,228 Speaker 7: and it's a miracle and there's white smoke that comes 412 00:17:02,228 --> 00:17:04,388 Speaker 7: out of the chimney and everything, and then Zay Flower 413 00:17:04,588 --> 00:17:06,068 Speaker 7: they go and add on to it as z Ave 414 00:17:06,148 --> 00:17:09,268 Speaker 7: Flowers first wide receiver from Boston College ever drafted in 415 00:17:09,308 --> 00:17:10,468 Speaker 7: the first round, ever, ever. 416 00:17:10,548 --> 00:17:11,628 Speaker 2: It's an unbelievable thing. 417 00:17:11,828 --> 00:17:14,388 Speaker 7: Small guy five to nine in a quarter, one hundred 418 00:17:14,388 --> 00:17:16,588 Speaker 7: and eighty some pounds. It's kind of like they're trying 419 00:17:16,588 --> 00:17:19,308 Speaker 7: the Hollywood Brown thing again. But this guy is a 420 00:17:19,308 --> 00:17:21,708 Speaker 7: big time playmaker, so they draft him. Lamar, you get 421 00:17:21,708 --> 00:17:24,428 Speaker 7: a contract, you get the wide receiver. We're still waiting 422 00:17:24,468 --> 00:17:26,988 Speaker 7: for Lamar's entire gym informacial product. 423 00:17:26,988 --> 00:17:28,628 Speaker 2: I really want to try it, and we still haven't gotten. 424 00:17:28,668 --> 00:17:30,788 Speaker 7: I don't know why I've been based basically begging the 425 00:17:30,828 --> 00:17:34,468 Speaker 7: rest of the draft. Trenton Simpson guys a linebacker out 426 00:17:34,508 --> 00:17:37,788 Speaker 7: of Clemson. His father was seventeen years with the Army Rangers. 427 00:17:37,828 --> 00:17:41,108 Speaker 7: Like that's a big, big time Tavius Robinson from Canadian 428 00:17:41,148 --> 00:17:43,068 Speaker 7: guy from Ole Miss Cayu. 429 00:17:43,188 --> 00:17:45,588 Speaker 2: Blue Kelly, look at that from Stanford. 430 00:17:46,228 --> 00:17:48,348 Speaker 7: His father, Brian was Brian Kelly, who's a cornerback on 431 00:17:48,388 --> 00:17:50,788 Speaker 7: the Old Bucks Super Bowl team. And then my guy, 432 00:17:51,028 --> 00:17:52,908 Speaker 7: the guy that I thought Jason was gonna draft in 433 00:17:52,908 --> 00:17:54,628 Speaker 7: the third round, here we go. Let me hear it 434 00:17:54,828 --> 00:18:00,428 Speaker 7: GOA Malai Salamuvai la Ulu grew up in Alaska, also 435 00:18:00,428 --> 00:18:02,908 Speaker 7: spent time in Hawaii, went to high school in Las Vegas, 436 00:18:02,908 --> 00:18:04,388 Speaker 7: and he is playing the offensive line. 437 00:18:04,428 --> 00:18:05,708 Speaker 2: We'll see if you can make the squad. We hope. 438 00:18:05,708 --> 00:18:08,388 Speaker 2: So the Brady pick one. That is your twenty twenty. 439 00:18:08,428 --> 00:18:10,748 Speaker 4: This is our guy got hurt during a comba and. 440 00:18:14,068 --> 00:18:16,548 Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, is it an stealer Achilles Ac? 441 00:18:17,268 --> 00:18:18,868 Speaker 4: Yeah, right showed up. 442 00:18:19,028 --> 00:18:22,908 Speaker 7: He will rise like his uncle Jason right hot the 443 00:18:22,948 --> 00:18:24,828 Speaker 7: mask on Crystal Lake and all that except will be 444 00:18:24,908 --> 00:18:25,388 Speaker 7: DAFC North. 445 00:18:25,428 --> 00:18:25,748 Speaker 2: What do you got? 446 00:18:25,828 --> 00:18:27,988 Speaker 3: Stuck the landing? I got the Pittsburgh Steelers. They went 447 00:18:28,028 --> 00:18:30,788 Speaker 3: for Bulk. I feel like Lee drafted. They take an 448 00:18:30,788 --> 00:18:33,388 Speaker 3: offensive tackle in the first round, first time they've taken 449 00:18:33,428 --> 00:18:36,268 Speaker 3: to tackle this high the Steelers in like thirty plus years. 450 00:18:36,268 --> 00:18:38,748 Speaker 3: Of course, the family lineage now runs deep with Joey 451 00:18:38,748 --> 00:18:42,308 Speaker 3: Porter Junior in the second round. This many are seeing 452 00:18:42,348 --> 00:18:44,508 Speaker 3: as he fell a lot at the tight end spot, 453 00:18:44,748 --> 00:18:46,948 Speaker 3: not a big pass catching tight end out of Georgia. 454 00:18:47,028 --> 00:18:49,148 Speaker 3: But that's because they have an epic tight end coming 455 00:18:49,148 --> 00:18:51,908 Speaker 3: in next year's draft in Frock Bowers. So you're gonna 456 00:18:51,908 --> 00:18:54,748 Speaker 3: it's almost This partnership on the offensive line is going 457 00:18:54,828 --> 00:18:58,548 Speaker 3: to be awesome. His license plate reads sixth Offensive linemen 458 00:18:59,068 --> 00:19:02,788 Speaker 3: with less consonants. Obviously we love this many where a 459 00:19:02,828 --> 00:19:06,228 Speaker 3: spam T shirt. His brother also the same on our show. 460 00:19:06,468 --> 00:19:11,308 Speaker 3: Hawaiian Guy was great. The Georgia. The Georgia Wisconsin connection 461 00:19:11,588 --> 00:19:14,828 Speaker 3: in Pennsylvania as a state is actually ridiculous. With the Steelers, 462 00:19:14,948 --> 00:19:17,028 Speaker 3: I thought they drafted really strong. They're a team that 463 00:19:17,108 --> 00:19:19,108 Speaker 3: they missed the playoffs for the first time last season 464 00:19:19,188 --> 00:19:21,708 Speaker 3: since twenty nineteen, so they had a couple of holes 465 00:19:21,708 --> 00:19:23,668 Speaker 3: to figure out. But I think the fact that they 466 00:19:23,708 --> 00:19:26,828 Speaker 3: didn't go quarterback right receiver, like this tight end situation 467 00:19:26,948 --> 00:19:31,588 Speaker 3: with Pat Pryormouth and Najie Harris coming out of the backfield, 468 00:19:31,588 --> 00:19:35,108 Speaker 3: I think the Steelers offense is they're gonna get their 469 00:19:35,108 --> 00:19:35,868 Speaker 3: wheels turn in this year. 470 00:19:36,068 --> 00:19:37,548 Speaker 2: The Steelers are going to make the playoffs this year. 471 00:19:37,588 --> 00:19:38,308 Speaker 2: I said it right now. 472 00:19:38,428 --> 00:19:40,268 Speaker 3: You said that last year because you can't look at 473 00:19:40,308 --> 00:19:42,388 Speaker 3: that label, that brand that it's basically. 474 00:19:42,148 --> 00:19:44,388 Speaker 2: An American flag of what we do. That's old America 475 00:19:44,468 --> 00:19:46,588 Speaker 2: right there. We love it. Steal hasn't be in the playoffs. 476 00:19:51,068 --> 00:19:51,388 Speaker 4: All right. 477 00:19:51,388 --> 00:19:54,148 Speaker 3: Back now with the Indiapis Colts to introduce their fourth 478 00:19:54,188 --> 00:19:57,868 Speaker 3: overall pick, quarterback Anthony Richardson to the media, Richardson talked 479 00:19:57,908 --> 00:20:02,388 Speaker 3: about how he and his coach's relationship with Eagles quarterback 480 00:20:02,468 --> 00:20:03,788 Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts has unfolded. 481 00:20:06,948 --> 00:20:09,028 Speaker 6: You know, whenever I see a mobi QV playing, you know, 482 00:20:09,508 --> 00:20:11,268 Speaker 6: I turned the TV on so I can watch it. 483 00:20:11,308 --> 00:20:13,548 Speaker 6: So I was definitely watching Jaalen Hurts a lot last year. 484 00:20:13,748 --> 00:20:15,508 Speaker 6: You know, I didn't know coach Stikeen was the one 485 00:20:15,588 --> 00:20:19,068 Speaker 6: orgre set and all that until like after he got hired. 486 00:20:19,108 --> 00:20:21,708 Speaker 6: I'm like, Okay, if there's a possibility, I go there. 487 00:20:21,708 --> 00:20:23,628 Speaker 6: You know, he can make something to work, and he's 488 00:20:23,628 --> 00:20:26,348 Speaker 6: been preaching that to me, so I'm definitely ready to see. 489 00:20:26,388 --> 00:20:27,868 Speaker 6: I'm ready to you know, control the offense. 490 00:20:27,908 --> 00:20:29,668 Speaker 8: Would you ever reach out to Jamie Hurts to kind 491 00:20:29,668 --> 00:20:31,908 Speaker 8: of maybe get some advice on how to shake off 492 00:20:31,948 --> 00:20:32,828 Speaker 8: some of that doubt that you. 493 00:20:32,788 --> 00:20:33,548 Speaker 4: Mean he had to face. 494 00:20:33,868 --> 00:20:35,988 Speaker 6: I talked to him before when I was in high school. 495 00:20:36,948 --> 00:20:39,828 Speaker 6: That was a while ago, but now I definitely want to, 496 00:20:39,868 --> 00:20:41,868 Speaker 6: you know, get some advice from him, get some advice 497 00:20:41,868 --> 00:20:44,388 Speaker 6: from all the other NFL qvs, you know, just so 498 00:20:44,948 --> 00:20:47,188 Speaker 6: I can help myself and help help myself in this game. 499 00:20:49,868 --> 00:20:51,588 Speaker 3: And that's anthey richest in. Yeah, he's probably a very 500 00:20:51,628 --> 00:20:54,468 Speaker 3: cool club now the quarterbacks that if you can help 501 00:20:54,708 --> 00:20:56,908 Speaker 3: your own play and be better on the field, especially 502 00:20:56,908 --> 00:20:58,788 Speaker 3: in your rookie season, then so be it. Chainstake, and 503 00:20:58,868 --> 00:21:00,868 Speaker 3: of course health Ley Jalen Hurts to a very successful 504 00:21:00,868 --> 00:21:03,668 Speaker 3: start his young career as the Eagles offensive coordinator at 505 00:21:03,708 --> 00:21:06,188 Speaker 3: the time. Now he's Danny Richardson head coach. So now 506 00:21:06,268 --> 00:21:09,108 Speaker 3: let's get to pick. You are going to say, ring 507 00:21:09,148 --> 00:21:11,148 Speaker 3: me up, rook You get to pick a rookie and 508 00:21:11,188 --> 00:21:13,388 Speaker 3: pick a veteran that you think that rookie should be 509 00:21:13,428 --> 00:21:16,388 Speaker 3: calling for advice, Ring me up, rook. 510 00:21:16,148 --> 00:21:19,748 Speaker 7: Who I'm gonna stay with Richardson and I'm gonna go 511 00:21:19,748 --> 00:21:22,028 Speaker 7: to last year's number four overall pick. I don't think 512 00:21:22,068 --> 00:21:23,668 Speaker 7: there's been a player in the history of this media 513 00:21:23,708 --> 00:21:25,788 Speaker 7: group that has been hyped like Kyle Pitts was coming 514 00:21:25,788 --> 00:21:28,188 Speaker 7: out of Florida last year. He was the going to 515 00:21:28,268 --> 00:21:32,628 Speaker 7: redefine not the position, the sport. And I would say, hey, 516 00:21:32,748 --> 00:21:34,948 Speaker 7: Kyle is Anthony Richardson. I had the number four pick. 517 00:21:35,268 --> 00:21:37,148 Speaker 7: Is it okay to play the first game and not 518 00:21:37,228 --> 00:21:40,228 Speaker 7: sprout wings and breed fire and have nine touchdowns? 519 00:21:40,228 --> 00:21:41,748 Speaker 2: Because that's what we though Kyle Pitts was going to do. 520 00:21:41,788 --> 00:21:43,308 Speaker 7: And We thought he was going to turn into some 521 00:21:43,348 --> 00:21:47,588 Speaker 7: sort of I don't know, prehistoric creature and break every 522 00:21:47,748 --> 00:21:49,548 Speaker 7: one of the tight end records in the first quarter 523 00:21:49,588 --> 00:21:50,268 Speaker 7: of his first game. 524 00:21:50,468 --> 00:21:51,348 Speaker 2: He had a good season. 525 00:21:51,748 --> 00:21:55,628 Speaker 7: People were frustrated he didn't break Tony Gonzalez's touchdown records. 526 00:21:55,908 --> 00:21:58,228 Speaker 7: It's okay to have a lot of talent and a 527 00:21:58,228 --> 00:21:58,908 Speaker 7: lot of potential. 528 00:21:59,068 --> 00:22:00,508 Speaker 2: Just be a little bit of slow burn. There's gonna 529 00:22:00,508 --> 00:22:02,028 Speaker 2: be more honest on you because you're a quarterback. 530 00:22:02,348 --> 00:22:04,668 Speaker 7: Call up the number four pick, and you can start 531 00:22:04,668 --> 00:22:06,588 Speaker 7: the number four pick club because you guys have so 532 00:22:06,668 --> 00:22:08,708 Speaker 7: much hype and so much ability. I would pick his 533 00:22:08,748 --> 00:22:11,428 Speaker 7: brain on if it's okay to just walk before you 534 00:22:11,468 --> 00:22:11,908 Speaker 7: could run. 535 00:22:11,948 --> 00:22:14,268 Speaker 3: Mike, they probably have each other's numbers two since they 536 00:22:14,348 --> 00:22:15,308 Speaker 3: spent one year together. 537 00:22:15,348 --> 00:22:16,828 Speaker 2: I believe that's a good point. 538 00:22:17,828 --> 00:22:20,708 Speaker 5: That's it, Yeah, got it. Got it in the context. 539 00:22:21,148 --> 00:22:23,308 Speaker 5: The other day, we did NFL Draft Kickoff from Mount 540 00:22:23,388 --> 00:22:25,148 Speaker 5: Laurel leading up to the second round of the draft, 541 00:22:25,148 --> 00:22:26,188 Speaker 5: and we had a segment and said who are we 542 00:22:26,268 --> 00:22:29,188 Speaker 5: looking for on Friday night? They have their name called 543 00:22:29,228 --> 00:22:31,068 Speaker 5: and I said, you watch out for Riley Moss. I 544 00:22:31,068 --> 00:22:35,988 Speaker 5: said Michael Robinson. I said he won the Iowa Hustle Award, right, 545 00:22:36,028 --> 00:22:37,348 Speaker 5: And then I said, you know you ran a four 546 00:22:37,388 --> 00:22:39,308 Speaker 5: four five forty and Mike Rob goes, you're kidding me. 547 00:22:39,348 --> 00:22:40,828 Speaker 5: I said, it's deceptive speed. 548 00:22:40,908 --> 00:22:41,348 Speaker 2: Mike Rob. 549 00:22:41,428 --> 00:22:43,148 Speaker 5: You know we were making fun of all the tropes. 550 00:22:43,628 --> 00:22:46,948 Speaker 5: But our buddy Charles Davis never won to shy and 551 00:22:47,028 --> 00:22:49,188 Speaker 5: tiptoe around the topic. This is what he said after 552 00:22:49,228 --> 00:22:50,868 Speaker 5: Riley Moss was drafted by the Broncos. 553 00:22:52,428 --> 00:22:53,428 Speaker 2: Just go ahead and say it. 554 00:22:53,748 --> 00:22:56,308 Speaker 3: He's a white kid playing corner and people want to 555 00:22:56,628 --> 00:22:57,268 Speaker 3: ding him for that. 556 00:22:57,548 --> 00:22:59,268 Speaker 2: They want to say he has to play safety. 557 00:22:59,428 --> 00:23:03,588 Speaker 1: His speed, his quickness, his toughness, his ball skills, he 558 00:23:03,708 --> 00:23:05,108 Speaker 1: is going to play cornerback. 559 00:23:05,388 --> 00:23:07,628 Speaker 2: Merwhen McCaffrey came out and was playing running back, we 560 00:23:07,788 --> 00:23:10,188 Speaker 2: want to dig in for that that's long gone. The 561 00:23:10,228 --> 00:23:12,348 Speaker 2: same thing's gonna happen here with Riley Moss. How he 562 00:23:12,388 --> 00:23:13,188 Speaker 2: can play. 563 00:23:15,708 --> 00:23:17,868 Speaker 5: Here you go, Charles Davis tackling that thing head on. 564 00:23:17,988 --> 00:23:20,308 Speaker 5: So if you're Riley Moss, why not give a call 565 00:23:20,388 --> 00:23:25,028 Speaker 5: to Jason Seahorn, the former Giants cornerback who really plus 566 00:23:25,028 --> 00:23:28,748 Speaker 5: the last starting white he was back in the mid nineteen. 567 00:23:28,668 --> 00:23:29,468 Speaker 2: In the NFL. 568 00:23:29,668 --> 00:23:31,708 Speaker 5: And the the reason I mentioned this is because if 569 00:23:31,708 --> 00:23:34,068 Speaker 5: you're Riley Moss, what do you expect? And Moss has 570 00:23:34,108 --> 00:23:37,108 Speaker 5: been quoted before about when he was playing in college 571 00:23:37,468 --> 00:23:39,788 Speaker 5: saying I felt like I was being tested on some 572 00:23:39,868 --> 00:23:42,188 Speaker 5: deep balls early in the game. And he welcomed it 573 00:23:42,228 --> 00:23:43,668 Speaker 5: because it said it gave him a chance to. 574 00:23:43,628 --> 00:23:46,668 Speaker 2: Make a play on a football. And so maybe you're. 575 00:23:46,588 --> 00:23:48,628 Speaker 5: Gonna see that a ton at the NFL level. I 576 00:23:48,668 --> 00:23:50,268 Speaker 5: don't know is there's somebody at this table that can 577 00:23:50,308 --> 00:23:51,228 Speaker 5: be an expert on this one. 578 00:23:51,308 --> 00:23:52,068 Speaker 2: Jason mccordy, what. 579 00:23:52,068 --> 00:23:53,668 Speaker 4: Do you think I'll play with a cornerback? 580 00:23:53,708 --> 00:23:57,228 Speaker 8: My god, Pete Intersagan White cornerback out of Wheaton College 581 00:23:57,268 --> 00:24:00,548 Speaker 8: and he welcomed it as well. He was tough, tackled, well, 582 00:24:00,668 --> 00:24:03,068 Speaker 8: all of those things. For Riley Moss, I'm excited for him. 583 00:24:03,188 --> 00:24:05,068 Speaker 8: The kid can run, he can play, and I love 584 00:24:05,108 --> 00:24:07,628 Speaker 8: that comparison to a Jason Sea owner haven't been many, 585 00:24:07,828 --> 00:24:09,548 Speaker 8: and I gotta imagine they're going to attack him. 586 00:24:09,548 --> 00:24:11,748 Speaker 4: But you go out there, you make your plays, they'll say, I. 587 00:24:11,668 --> 00:24:12,748 Speaker 5: See you are going to talk about it in the 588 00:24:12,748 --> 00:24:14,908 Speaker 5: PA and some other guys about how they felt like 589 00:24:14,948 --> 00:24:18,388 Speaker 5: they were being tested because of their skin color. 590 00:24:18,388 --> 00:24:20,468 Speaker 2: You know what? Give him a call Wheaton College. 591 00:24:20,508 --> 00:24:22,628 Speaker 3: That must be D two, D three. Yeah, what is that? 592 00:24:22,628 --> 00:24:23,948 Speaker 3: That would have been one of your players from our 593 00:24:23,988 --> 00:24:27,268 Speaker 3: segment yesterday. Absolutely, I'm gonna go to the other side 594 00:24:27,308 --> 00:24:29,708 Speaker 3: of the ball from the corners. I'm going rookie wide 595 00:24:29,748 --> 00:24:32,388 Speaker 3: receiver for the Carolina Panthers. Jonathan Mingo out of Ole 596 00:24:32,468 --> 00:24:36,068 Speaker 3: Miss another one of these big, rangy, big bodied wide 597 00:24:36,108 --> 00:24:40,068 Speaker 3: receivers from the Rebels. He goes to Carolina. He is 598 00:24:40,108 --> 00:24:42,548 Speaker 3: about to try to make Bryce Young's life better, and 599 00:24:42,668 --> 00:24:45,428 Speaker 3: vice versa. So I thought, I don't want him to 600 00:24:45,508 --> 00:24:47,988 Speaker 3: call a veteran wide receiver. No, no, no, I want him 601 00:24:47,988 --> 00:24:52,308 Speaker 3: to call another veteran quarterback who also arrived into the 602 00:24:52,348 --> 00:24:54,948 Speaker 3: league with a rookie wide receiver. So I would like 603 00:24:55,188 --> 00:24:58,748 Speaker 3: Jonathan Mingo to call Andrew Luck because Andrew Luck got 604 00:24:58,748 --> 00:25:01,708 Speaker 3: to the Colts, get his phone over, call Andrew Luck 605 00:25:01,748 --> 00:25:03,988 Speaker 3: and just ask, hey, what can I do to make 606 00:25:04,028 --> 00:25:06,988 Speaker 3: Bryce Young's life better? How can I spend extra time 607 00:25:07,028 --> 00:25:09,468 Speaker 3: with them? How do I make the meetings better, more efficient? 608 00:25:09,628 --> 00:25:12,308 Speaker 3: Because we are about to enter this life experience together 609 00:25:12,348 --> 00:25:14,148 Speaker 3: that no one can take away from us. Because and 610 00:25:14,148 --> 00:25:16,468 Speaker 3: Andrew Luck and t Hy Hilton arriving in Indianapolis. They 611 00:25:16,908 --> 00:25:19,908 Speaker 3: changed the game. They go eleven and five their first season. Obviously, 612 00:25:19,908 --> 00:25:22,828 Speaker 3: Andrew Luck went on to have an incredible career added, 613 00:25:23,068 --> 00:25:24,988 Speaker 3: as did t Hy Hilton. So I'm going to say 614 00:25:25,028 --> 00:25:27,108 Speaker 3: Jonathan and go to Andrew Luck. And I know it's 615 00:25:27,108 --> 00:25:29,868 Speaker 3: a haja hard songe call to make, but I want that. 616 00:25:30,068 --> 00:25:30,908 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not mad at that. 617 00:25:30,948 --> 00:25:33,068 Speaker 8: I'm just happy those Andrew Luck and t Y Hilton 618 00:25:33,148 --> 00:25:35,788 Speaker 8: highlights did not incorporate me being involved. 619 00:25:35,868 --> 00:25:36,628 Speaker 2: Were you in some of those? 620 00:25:36,708 --> 00:25:38,508 Speaker 8: Yeah, for sure, I had to go. I never beat 621 00:25:38,548 --> 00:25:41,108 Speaker 8: Andrew Luck when I was in this, really never beat him. 622 00:25:41,268 --> 00:25:42,908 Speaker 7: And you're the guy on stage at the draft talking 623 00:25:42,948 --> 00:25:44,348 Speaker 7: all this trash to the Colts. 624 00:25:45,028 --> 00:25:48,908 Speaker 8: So the rookie that I'm going with is Emmanueal Forbes. 625 00:25:48,948 --> 00:25:51,188 Speaker 8: This was a guy coming out of Mississippi State, and 626 00:25:51,228 --> 00:25:53,308 Speaker 8: I remember Schraeger talked about him right here on the 627 00:25:53,308 --> 00:25:55,708 Speaker 8: show and he said he was one hundred and sixty 628 00:25:55,748 --> 00:26:01,628 Speaker 8: six pounds at the combine but had a ton of interceptions. 629 00:25:59,948 --> 00:26:02,788 Speaker 4: At the college level. I'm going deeper here. 630 00:26:02,868 --> 00:26:06,708 Speaker 8: He should be calling Mark mc millan quarterback from back 631 00:26:06,708 --> 00:26:09,628 Speaker 8: in the day ninety two to ninety nine, twenty three 632 00:26:09,708 --> 00:26:14,388 Speaker 8: career interceptions, nickname Mighty Mouse. Mark McMillan weighed in It 633 00:26:14,468 --> 00:26:17,108 Speaker 8: says one hundred and fifty four pounds. He said his 634 00:26:17,228 --> 00:26:21,148 Speaker 8: playing weight was one forty seven. Played also, not only 635 00:26:21,228 --> 00:26:23,588 Speaker 8: with the Eagles, with the Chiefs as well, and one 636 00:26:23,588 --> 00:26:25,028 Speaker 8: of those seasons with the Chiefs. 637 00:26:25,068 --> 00:26:27,468 Speaker 4: Had eight interceptions in that season. 638 00:26:27,748 --> 00:26:30,988 Speaker 8: Shoulder pass humongous right there, Mark McMillan, no out there 639 00:26:31,068 --> 00:26:35,828 Speaker 8: getting it done. Twenty three interceptions in eight seasons. Emanue Forbes, 640 00:26:35,988 --> 00:26:37,508 Speaker 8: a guy that likes to get his hands on the 641 00:26:37,508 --> 00:26:40,348 Speaker 8: ball as well, going to be making plays on Sunday 642 00:26:40,388 --> 00:26:40,988 Speaker 8: for the commander. 643 00:26:41,108 --> 00:26:43,948 Speaker 5: Just to be clear, their normal shoulder pads, it's just this. 644 00:26:44,668 --> 00:26:47,228 Speaker 3: It just looked like they're a little slippery on a 645 00:26:47,268 --> 00:26:48,068 Speaker 3: frame like that. 646 00:26:48,068 --> 00:26:50,508 Speaker 2: That's one forty seven, he said he's playing. 647 00:26:50,588 --> 00:26:52,788 Speaker 8: He's listed at one fifty fourth thing at one point 648 00:26:52,788 --> 00:26:55,228 Speaker 8: one sixty, he said, he played, Oh my god, one 649 00:26:55,468 --> 00:26:56,068 Speaker 8: forty seven. 650 00:26:56,148 --> 00:26:58,468 Speaker 4: Said his mom. His mom would close her eyes. 651 00:26:58,228 --> 00:27:00,348 Speaker 8: When she'd be watching the game Scar of Death. When 652 00:27:00,348 --> 00:27:01,588 Speaker 8: he's going to make Eagles. 653 00:27:01,308 --> 00:27:03,188 Speaker 7: As well, I feel like Todd Pinston was sixty eight 654 00:27:03,228 --> 00:27:06,828 Speaker 7: one oh five, very light, very very light. 655 00:27:07,028 --> 00:27:09,668 Speaker 2: But Emmanuel came on and said, he's like, look at me. Tackle. 656 00:27:09,748 --> 00:27:11,628 Speaker 2: Look how many tackles I had in the SEC. I'm 657 00:27:11,628 --> 00:27:13,908 Speaker 2: not afraid at all. It's really cool, awesome. 658 00:27:17,428 --> 00:27:19,148 Speaker 3: Time out of welcome back to our show, our NFL 659 00:27:19,148 --> 00:27:21,228 Speaker 3: network front office analysts. So we hung out with him 660 00:27:21,308 --> 00:27:23,988 Speaker 3: all last week with our draft coverage because he's three 661 00:27:23,988 --> 00:27:27,548 Speaker 3: times SUPERLD champion and his takes are awesome and experienced. 662 00:27:27,628 --> 00:27:30,228 Speaker 3: His time with the New England Patriots is historic. It's Scotty. 663 00:27:33,668 --> 00:27:36,868 Speaker 2: Good morning, Good morning, Good morning. 664 00:27:36,868 --> 00:27:39,028 Speaker 3: All right, Scott, you told us about how some teams 665 00:27:39,108 --> 00:27:42,468 Speaker 3: like to unload veteran players around the draft, much to 666 00:27:42,508 --> 00:27:44,668 Speaker 3: the benefit of the teams who are looking to add 667 00:27:44,748 --> 00:27:46,788 Speaker 3: veteran presence. You told us that something that benefited you 668 00:27:46,828 --> 00:27:49,348 Speaker 3: from one of your Patriots traded for Randy Moss in 669 00:27:49,348 --> 00:27:51,388 Speaker 3: the middle of the night. What similarities do you see 670 00:27:51,428 --> 00:27:53,988 Speaker 3: between that situation what the Eagles did for running back 671 00:27:53,988 --> 00:27:57,428 Speaker 3: DeAndre Swift from the Lions, Jamie. 672 00:27:57,428 --> 00:28:00,068 Speaker 10: The primary similarities that I see is you've got a 673 00:28:00,108 --> 00:28:03,548 Speaker 10: player who clearly wanted out of his situation. But the 674 00:28:03,548 --> 00:28:06,148 Speaker 10: beautiful part is the team wanted out of this situation, 675 00:28:06,308 --> 00:28:09,388 Speaker 10: and that's what Swift wanted, and that's back what Randy 676 00:28:09,428 --> 00:28:12,868 Speaker 10: Moss wanted in the day and what happens in situations 677 00:28:12,948 --> 00:28:13,308 Speaker 10: like this. 678 00:28:13,668 --> 00:28:17,308 Speaker 2: It makes the trade easier, it makes it quicker. You know. 679 00:28:17,388 --> 00:28:19,148 Speaker 10: The good part about the Eagles is I look at 680 00:28:19,148 --> 00:28:22,148 Speaker 10: the swift trade, is that they've got a player that's 681 00:28:22,228 --> 00:28:25,228 Speaker 10: going into the last year of his contract. He is 682 00:28:25,268 --> 00:28:27,708 Speaker 10: going to be the best version of whatever he is 683 00:28:27,748 --> 00:28:30,988 Speaker 10: because he's playing for a contract, and usually with running backs, 684 00:28:31,348 --> 00:28:34,588 Speaker 10: you know, the second contract is the biggest and best 685 00:28:34,628 --> 00:28:37,268 Speaker 10: contract for the most part if they have a little 686 00:28:37,268 --> 00:28:39,948 Speaker 10: bit of success. In the case of Randy Moss, the 687 00:28:39,988 --> 00:28:42,588 Speaker 10: other similarity was in order for us to give him 688 00:28:42,588 --> 00:28:45,428 Speaker 10: that pay cut of six and quarter million dollars, he 689 00:28:45,468 --> 00:28:48,068 Speaker 10: and his agent demanded that it be a one year deal. 690 00:28:48,188 --> 00:28:51,108 Speaker 10: This way, hey, I'll take the pay cut, I'll play 691 00:28:51,188 --> 00:28:53,428 Speaker 10: for less as long as I can prove it and 692 00:28:53,468 --> 00:28:56,748 Speaker 10: get a bigger contract. So those similarities in terms of 693 00:28:56,748 --> 00:28:59,668 Speaker 10: the players going to be whatever their best version is 694 00:28:59,668 --> 00:29:01,828 Speaker 10: is another similarity that I see between both of the 695 00:29:01,868 --> 00:29:02,828 Speaker 10: players that were traded. 696 00:29:04,388 --> 00:29:05,108 Speaker 2: It's got what's it. 697 00:29:05,188 --> 00:29:07,908 Speaker 7: Like when a GM doesn't draft and pours all the 698 00:29:07,988 --> 00:29:10,388 Speaker 7: heart and the blood, sweat and tears and every pick 699 00:29:10,428 --> 00:29:12,428 Speaker 7: and they do it and they stick the landing and 700 00:29:12,428 --> 00:29:14,668 Speaker 7: they high five and they feel really satisfied, and then 701 00:29:14,668 --> 00:29:17,228 Speaker 7: the next morning somebody out on AOL FanHouse is their 702 00:29:17,308 --> 00:29:19,588 Speaker 7: draft a C minus and the fans say that one 703 00:29:19,588 --> 00:29:21,308 Speaker 7: of the picks was a reach, Like what is that? 704 00:29:21,508 --> 00:29:21,588 Speaker 2: Like? 705 00:29:23,628 --> 00:29:26,748 Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, Kyle, it's you have to understand. We 706 00:29:26,828 --> 00:29:30,228 Speaker 10: understand the mentality of fans. They want what they want 707 00:29:30,268 --> 00:29:32,228 Speaker 10: and if they don't get it, they're going to react. 708 00:29:32,468 --> 00:29:34,548 Speaker 10: But I'll tell you this, I can't think of one 709 00:29:34,668 --> 00:29:37,468 Speaker 10: GM or one head coach, whoever the decision makers are, 710 00:29:38,068 --> 00:29:41,028 Speaker 10: that sits there and is thinking that they're going to 711 00:29:41,028 --> 00:29:43,308 Speaker 10: be whimsical when it comes to a trade. There's usually 712 00:29:43,348 --> 00:29:46,228 Speaker 10: a plan in place, and what happens sometimes is if 713 00:29:46,268 --> 00:29:49,188 Speaker 10: it looks like a reach, one of two things is happening. 714 00:29:49,308 --> 00:29:51,068 Speaker 10: The first thing that could be happening is that they 715 00:29:51,108 --> 00:29:53,708 Speaker 10: have a little bit of intel that the player that 716 00:29:53,868 --> 00:29:56,988 Speaker 10: is their desire is going to be picked by someone else, 717 00:29:56,988 --> 00:29:58,948 Speaker 10: so they think that they may need to get up. 718 00:29:59,268 --> 00:30:02,988 Speaker 10: Sometimes that's accurate, sometimes it's inaccurate. The other times that 719 00:30:03,188 --> 00:30:05,548 Speaker 10: I think that people may believe that a team is 720 00:30:05,628 --> 00:30:08,868 Speaker 10: reaching and it's not necessarily true is when you want 721 00:30:08,908 --> 00:30:11,428 Speaker 10: to get a player that is system specific to you. 722 00:30:11,868 --> 00:30:15,228 Speaker 10: Not all teams value the same players. For instance, back 723 00:30:15,228 --> 00:30:17,388 Speaker 10: in the day, when we were, you know, looking at 724 00:30:17,428 --> 00:30:20,548 Speaker 10: defensive linemen, we were a two gap defense, so there 725 00:30:20,548 --> 00:30:24,548 Speaker 10: were certain defensive linemen that looked more attractive to us. 726 00:30:24,788 --> 00:30:26,868 Speaker 10: You look at offenses, are they when you're looking at 727 00:30:26,908 --> 00:30:31,188 Speaker 10: offensive lineman, is it a zone blocking offensive lineman or 728 00:30:31,228 --> 00:30:36,228 Speaker 10: is it more of a downhill blocking power power offensive lineman. 729 00:30:36,508 --> 00:30:39,508 Speaker 10: So to me, not every player is the same in 730 00:30:39,548 --> 00:30:41,668 Speaker 10: the eyes of the people that are picking them. You 731 00:30:41,748 --> 00:30:44,948 Speaker 10: have to pick players that are you know, specific to 732 00:30:44,988 --> 00:30:47,148 Speaker 10: your system. But again, I think the other thing that 733 00:30:47,188 --> 00:30:50,348 Speaker 10: you learned pretty quickly is that if you're you know, 734 00:30:50,468 --> 00:30:53,188 Speaker 10: worried about criticism, don't ever be a GM. 735 00:30:53,268 --> 00:30:54,268 Speaker 2: Don't ever be a head coach. 736 00:30:54,428 --> 00:30:56,428 Speaker 10: It's the wrong line of business or actually in your 737 00:30:56,468 --> 00:30:57,708 Speaker 10: line of business, as. 738 00:30:57,548 --> 00:30:59,068 Speaker 2: You guys were talking about before. 739 00:30:59,148 --> 00:31:02,868 Speaker 10: You know, Mike Gee, I heard you, Jez, you make 740 00:31:02,908 --> 00:31:05,148 Speaker 10: the network better, my brother, don't listen to him. 741 00:31:05,308 --> 00:31:06,148 Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. 742 00:31:06,228 --> 00:31:11,428 Speaker 5: Who's right, that happens during the break? 743 00:31:11,788 --> 00:31:13,148 Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, Scott, I hear you. 744 00:31:13,348 --> 00:31:15,348 Speaker 8: If you're on this show, if you're doing anything, do 745 00:31:15,468 --> 00:31:17,148 Speaker 8: not check your social media mentions. 746 00:31:17,148 --> 00:31:19,388 Speaker 4: It will not be a good experience. 747 00:31:19,428 --> 00:31:22,548 Speaker 8: But one of our favorite moments from the draft was 748 00:31:22,588 --> 00:31:25,748 Speaker 8: obviously Chris Bawn, the Cowboys scout, getting a chance to 749 00:31:25,828 --> 00:31:28,268 Speaker 8: call up his son Deuce and welcome him and tell 750 00:31:28,348 --> 00:31:31,628 Speaker 8: him that they're going to draft him. Scott through your experience, 751 00:31:31,668 --> 00:31:33,668 Speaker 8: have you ever had an emotional moment like that? 752 00:31:35,668 --> 00:31:36,868 Speaker 2: Jason never liked that. 753 00:31:37,148 --> 00:31:38,948 Speaker 10: You know, I've watched out a couple of times actually, 754 00:31:38,988 --> 00:31:41,148 Speaker 10: because the first time I saw it it actually did 755 00:31:41,268 --> 00:31:43,908 Speaker 10: choke me up a little, and I think, here, here's 756 00:31:43,948 --> 00:31:46,708 Speaker 10: why I think it affected me, and I know a 757 00:31:46,748 --> 00:31:49,388 Speaker 10: lot of other people in football why it affected them 758 00:31:49,388 --> 00:31:53,228 Speaker 10: so much. This game, this business, this industry. When you're 759 00:31:53,268 --> 00:31:57,948 Speaker 10: in football, whether it's college or professional football. For whatever reason, 760 00:31:58,828 --> 00:32:02,748 Speaker 10: we aren't always the best of family people in terms 761 00:32:02,748 --> 00:32:04,988 Speaker 10: of the time commitment and how much we give to 762 00:32:05,068 --> 00:32:07,508 Speaker 10: our jobs and how much time we give to our families. 763 00:32:07,548 --> 00:32:10,708 Speaker 10: It's a sick part of the culture that really you 764 00:32:11,748 --> 00:32:15,548 Speaker 10: retrospectively that I look back on and wonder about. And 765 00:32:15,548 --> 00:32:17,908 Speaker 10: what I felt in that moment when that was happening 766 00:32:18,028 --> 00:32:20,508 Speaker 10: was here's his dad who's probably not had a whole 767 00:32:20,508 --> 00:32:23,828 Speaker 10: lot of time at home like normal families do with 768 00:32:23,988 --> 00:32:26,348 Speaker 10: their son, and the fact that he was getting a 769 00:32:26,468 --> 00:32:29,428 Speaker 10: chance to be able to be reunited in a sense 770 00:32:29,508 --> 00:32:32,508 Speaker 10: with him and get to spend every day in work 771 00:32:32,668 --> 00:32:34,988 Speaker 10: moving forward. It was a really really cool moment that 772 00:32:35,348 --> 00:32:37,108 Speaker 10: struck me and I think a lot of other football 773 00:32:37,148 --> 00:32:38,468 Speaker 10: people in a very unique way. 774 00:32:39,708 --> 00:32:41,508 Speaker 5: Yeah, you can hear it in his voice, and I 775 00:32:41,548 --> 00:32:46,588 Speaker 5: thought Daniel Jheremiah saying that Chris von recused himself whenever 776 00:32:46,628 --> 00:32:49,028 Speaker 5: they spoke about his son leading up to the draft 777 00:32:49,228 --> 00:32:51,108 Speaker 5: in the pre draft process, and then they wind up 778 00:32:51,108 --> 00:32:52,828 Speaker 5: with him anyway. I thought that was a cool little 779 00:32:52,868 --> 00:32:55,588 Speaker 5: aspect as well. Give us the name, Scott, of a 780 00:32:55,588 --> 00:32:58,108 Speaker 5: player who was drafted in a late round who you 781 00:32:58,108 --> 00:33:01,908 Speaker 5: think we should spot shine a spotlight on, Jez. 782 00:33:01,988 --> 00:33:03,508 Speaker 10: I'm going to give the name of two players, and 783 00:33:03,748 --> 00:33:05,948 Speaker 10: of course they're going to offensive line and both sixth 784 00:33:06,028 --> 00:33:10,068 Speaker 10: round picks. The first is Luke Patterson from Notre Dame, 785 00:33:10,148 --> 00:33:12,628 Speaker 10: who is a center but can also play guard. 786 00:33:12,948 --> 00:33:14,108 Speaker 2: A terrific player. 787 00:33:13,828 --> 00:33:16,388 Speaker 10: At Notre Dame who is a two time captain, started 788 00:33:16,428 --> 00:33:18,708 Speaker 10: a bunch of games at Notre Dame, but always had 789 00:33:18,748 --> 00:33:21,988 Speaker 10: these little nagging injuries things that held him back that 790 00:33:22,508 --> 00:33:24,428 Speaker 10: you know, I don't think is going to be a problem. 791 00:33:24,508 --> 00:33:27,148 Speaker 10: You're talking about a guy that started thirty four career 792 00:33:27,188 --> 00:33:32,068 Speaker 10: games at center, another twelve at guard. He has position versatility, 793 00:33:32,308 --> 00:33:35,588 Speaker 10: and when you're an inside offensive lineman, it doesn't matter 794 00:33:35,628 --> 00:33:39,028 Speaker 10: where you're picked. If you're smart, if you're tough, and 795 00:33:39,228 --> 00:33:43,588 Speaker 10: you can have versatility and position flexibility, you're going to last. 796 00:33:43,828 --> 00:33:46,988 Speaker 10: And in that saying, that makes me think of Luke 797 00:33:47,108 --> 00:33:50,668 Speaker 10: Whippler from Ohio State, who is also drafted in the 798 00:33:50,748 --> 00:33:53,948 Speaker 10: sixth round by the Cleveland Browns. Luke is another player 799 00:33:53,988 --> 00:33:55,868 Speaker 10: again who has a lot of the same traits in 800 00:33:56,028 --> 00:33:59,988 Speaker 10: terms of being smart, being tough, being physical, but also 801 00:34:00,108 --> 00:34:01,668 Speaker 10: has position versatility. 802 00:34:01,988 --> 00:34:03,708 Speaker 2: These are the kind of guys that you see. 803 00:34:03,468 --> 00:34:05,708 Speaker 10: When they have those tras, they just seemed to stick 804 00:34:05,748 --> 00:34:07,668 Speaker 10: around and then all of a sudden, you know, eight 805 00:34:07,748 --> 00:34:09,308 Speaker 10: years later and you turn around and say. 806 00:34:09,188 --> 00:34:11,748 Speaker 2: Hey, wow, Whipler's still in the league. Hey Patterson's still 807 00:34:11,788 --> 00:34:14,468 Speaker 2: in the league. We've seen guys like this over and 808 00:34:14,548 --> 00:34:15,348 Speaker 2: over again. 809 00:34:15,868 --> 00:34:18,708 Speaker 10: I love these late round picks that have certain kind 810 00:34:18,748 --> 00:34:21,228 Speaker 10: of makeup, particularly with offensive linemen.