1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you missed in History Class, A production 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: of I Heart Radio, Hello and Happy Friday. I'm Holly 3 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: Fry and I'm Tracy V. Wilson. Tracy. We talked about 4 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: vacuum cleaners this week. We sure did. I ended up 5 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: really enjoying researching this way more than I would have anticipated, 6 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: because I'll confess I'm a pretty mediocre housekeeper. Yeah, same, 7 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: I'm like a C C minus a tipping. But then 8 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 1: every once in a while I get a bee in 9 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: my bonnet and I go crazy and just clean like 10 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: the Dickens, and then I forget about it again for 11 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: a while. Um. One thing that I thought was really 12 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: interesting was how, um, any time there was a move 13 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: forward in vacuum cleaner or any kind of cleaning technology, 14 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: it was that thing where everybody tries to run to 15 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: where the lightning just struck so they can get some 16 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: of their own. And like some of that was localized 17 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:05,759 Speaker 1: in such a way that kind of cracked me up. 18 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: Like we talked about the bustles, and they were from 19 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: Grand Rapids, Michigan. Shout out to my relatives there. Um, 20 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: but Grand Rapids kind of for a while became this 21 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 1: really hyper competitive market after their success where suddenly there 22 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: were six new companies trying to make basically the same 23 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: kind of product in that one place, which to me 24 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: is always kind of fascinating. I'm like, is it just 25 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: because they were local and it spread to them really 26 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: quickly and they wanted to replicate it and thought that 27 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: was a good business model to try to compete with 28 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 1: the person that invented this new version or I don't know, 29 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: not a business person so well. And it's one of 30 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: those things when where when there are lots of different 31 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: companies that are working on the product, that competition can 32 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: you know, lead to refinements or efficiencies or whatever that like, 33 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: that's all a thing, But then there are also cases 34 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: where it's like, this is fifteen different knockoffs of the 35 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: same one thing and they're all in one town. I 36 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: guess in terms of like your labor force, if someone 37 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: didn't like working for one company, is probably easy to 38 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 1: find another job, so that's a benefit, But it does 39 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: seem strange to me how quickly the exact same products 40 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 1: started being made in very close proximity. One other thing 41 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: I wanted to mention that I thought was really interesting 42 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: and it didn't really uh, I mean, I just the 43 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: episode was plenty long, and I didn't want to go 44 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: deeply into it, but that Crystal Palace cleaning was big 45 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: news for a couple of reasons. Right We mentioned that 46 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: there had been some spotted fever issues with the Royal 47 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 1: Navy training that was going on there and how that 48 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: really helped it a lot spotted fever being caused by ticks, 49 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: of course, but this was like a huge boon to 50 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:01,239 Speaker 1: the idea of vacuum cleaning in general because people realized 51 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: with you know, pretty a pretty good example right before 52 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: them at a large scale, of how much cleanliness improved 53 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: hygiene and health. Like they really were like their health 54 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: benefits to doing this. Of course we should all start 55 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: getting our homes vacuum cleaned, which was of course again 56 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: a huge boon to Booths business because then he was like, no, 57 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: I can help keep you healthier in addition to just 58 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: keeping everything looking pretty um, and that kind of became 59 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: a huge between that and Royal endorsements vacuum cleaners. It's 60 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: all kind of a tangle too, because there's a part 61 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: of like, yes, there's actual hygiene stuff involved, but then 62 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: there's also like the the unrealistic standard of what a 63 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: person's home should look like and who is in charge 64 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: of doing that. Yes, yeah, I'm like I said, I'm 65 00:03:56,320 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: a mediocre housekeeper. My very best friend is the whole 66 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: her opposite of me. I swear hospitals could go to 67 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: her for training on how to keep something clean because 68 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: even when her son was very tiny, she just trained 69 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: him to clean. And so even though our house was 70 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: mostly white, there are no stories of like and then 71 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: we had to replace everything in the living room like 72 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: it was never I don't know how she does it, 73 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 1: but I don't when I'm on vacation with her in places, 74 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: she just points to places and it's like, I wish 75 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 1: I could dust that, like she just loves it. If 76 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: you're saying I don't have that reaction to anything, I'm 77 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 1: more like my house is haunted house them we got 78 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: a haunt image and thing, so I don't have to dust. 79 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: That's ambiance, but just a very different approach to the 80 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: whole thing. Uh. And I promised I would tell you 81 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,239 Speaker 1: how our Ruba died um. This was an early model 82 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: rumba um and it is a story of our recently 83 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: departed cat, Mr burns Um And it is such a 84 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 1: fun story about him and is so exemplary of his 85 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: general behavior. The it's fun to share. So. Mr Burns 86 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: was one of those cats who was freakishly smart and 87 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: freakishly stupid at the same time, Like he could figure 88 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: out mechanical things, but in ways that were dangerous to him. 89 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: Like I've told people before about how he learned how 90 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: to turn the burners on on the stove and like 91 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: that's not smart. Um so um. We had a rumba 92 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: that we had gotten. I think we got it as 93 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: a refurbished We didn't get it brand new because we 94 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: probably couldn't have afforded it at the time. And you 95 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: know when you used to start the old school room 96 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: as I haven't had a newer one. I have a 97 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 1: different brand of a little robotic cleaner now that we 98 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: didn't use for a long time because of Mr Burns. 99 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: But when you first started it, it would make this 100 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: little mini song of going doo doo doo doo before 101 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: the motor started up and it started moving. And we 102 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: woke up in the night one night to hearing that 103 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: sound come from another room and it was like boo boo, 104 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: boo boop, and the button for the rumor was right 105 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: on top, and what had happened was Mr Burns had 106 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: gotten on top of the room. But I don't know 107 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 1: to sit I can't imagine he actually meant to turn 108 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 1: it on. He wanted to go for a ride. As 109 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: I sat up in bed, I literally watched what looks 110 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: like a cat driving a vacuum down the hallway past 111 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: our doorway, and I was like, what is going on here? 112 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 1: And the problem was I believe that to have been 113 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 1: an accident initially, but it gave him a taste for 114 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: mobility freedom because after that he always wanted to turn 115 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: the room but on and ride it around. And Mr Burns, 116 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: particularly as he aged, was a soft, big cat. He 117 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: was not skinny. He put on a lot of weight, 118 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: and so he actually burned out the motor so it 119 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: could no longer move. It would still go in reverse. 120 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: So I think he actually burned out the gears and 121 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: was still go in reverse, which would be fine, except 122 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: it wouldn't do suction in reverse. So he just made 123 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: himself a reverse car for a little while before we 124 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 1: got rid of our our beloved room. But that was 125 00:06:55,960 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: named Count Floyd and then it was gone canting. So 126 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:03,799 Speaker 1: if you have a cat, I know of other people 127 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: whose cats have turned on their their floor vacuums, their 128 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: robotic vacuums, and just you know, as long as they 129 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: don't get quite so pudgy as Mr Burns', probably fine. 130 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: But he exceeded that that vehicle's weight limits destroyed it. 131 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: Um hm uh yeah, so that's my funny story of 132 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: how our ruba was destroyed. No, that is no um 133 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: you know, shade to Rumba or their manufacture at all. 134 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: It is not made to carry a cat around. No 135 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: one was like, I would like an eighteen pound cat 136 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: to be able to drive this around the house for 137 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: fun and leisure. No one says when they're developing a 138 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: floor vacuum. But that's that's what happened. Um. So if 139 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: you have funny stories similar, please share them because I 140 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: love them. That's history podcasts at I heart radio dot com. 141 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: One of our episodes this week was on our turo 142 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: Alfonso Schomberg, who, as I've said in the episode someone, 143 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: I'm embarrassed that I only became curious about in this 144 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: very recent moment, having just found a random mention of 145 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: his name and another article. I find him fascinating. I'm 146 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: enormously grateful for all of the work he did to 147 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: put this collection together. He was not at all the 148 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: only person who was collecting books, specifically books by and 149 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 1: about black people. That he made an enormous collection that 150 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: continues to make an enormous contribution to the world. UM. 151 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 1: The one thing that we didn't get into into the 152 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: podcast that is kind of, you know, an oversight on 153 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: his part, But something I don't really feel like I 154 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: can criticize him a ton for is that his focus 155 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: was mostly on men. Most of the work he collected 156 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: was by men. Most of the people he associated with 157 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: in his life and work were men. UM. It's one 158 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: of those things where it's like, I I wish he 159 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: had had some more gender equity and what he was doing, 160 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: but also given the period that he was in, in 161 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: the society that he was associating with, its unsurprising, right, 162 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: he would have been even more of an outlier had 163 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: that been the case, for sure. Yeah, Yeah, yeah, I'm 164 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: also I'm it's one of those things where this is 165 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: a hundred percent speculation, but I I wonder if one 166 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: of the reasons that he fell from view in a 167 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: lot of ways after his death, UM was because the 168 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: communities that he was part of here in the US, 169 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: UM didn't quite embrace him like he was. He was 170 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: seen with some suspicion within the Black community because of 171 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: his Puerto Rican heritage, and then he was also seen 172 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: with some suspicion in the Puerto Rican and Cuban communities 173 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 1: because it was a black heritage, and so as the 174 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: his communities were intentionally documenting and resurfacing figures from their 175 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: own pasts, neither quite claimed him in that way. Right, Yeah, 176 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 1: I mean that makes all of the logical sense in 177 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: the world. Right. I can easily see someone going, I 178 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: don't know if this person fits in with what we're doing, 179 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: and moving on and then not revisiting his his work 180 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: or his legacy. Yeah, It's it's hard to say, having 181 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: not you know, personally grown up in Puerto Rico and 182 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: having only been there once, whether he is more well 183 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: known as like a more household name there. He does 184 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 1: have streets and squares and things named after him in 185 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 1: the Caribbean, um more so than in the United States 186 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: until more recently, when more things have have been named 187 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 1: for him, and he has become slightly more recognized more 188 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: recently outside of the content of the Schaumberg Center, which 189 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: again as an enormous and important resource. It does. It 190 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: always fascinates me when people are very, very willing to 191 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: embrace the beneficial work of someone while simultaneously criticizing their 192 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: very identity that led them to do that work. Yeah, 193 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: it's a little like, oh oh yeah. A lot of 194 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: the people that have written about Schaumberg have talked about how, 195 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 1: you know, he like many many people who grew up 196 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 1: in the Caribbean when he did, and people in the 197 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: United States when there was just not as much widely 198 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: available education unless you were white, Like a lot of 199 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: people were self taught. But also a lot of the 200 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: people that were in the academy that he was in 201 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: all had degrees, and he was really able to just 202 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: like hold his own in that community in a lot 203 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: of ways, also sometimes being criticized and dismissed for uh, 204 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: for not having that academic background. People have noted that 205 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: like he was he was really good at collecting, he 206 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 1: didn't have the academic background that would lead to like 207 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: analysis of the things that he collected. Um which in 208 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: my mind it was it's like, Okay, find that somebody 209 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: else's work. In that case, like he was doing all 210 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: this work of finding all of these uh these published 211 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: works in some cases by first tracking down the name 212 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 1: of the person who's worked he could go find um 213 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: because you know that a lot of the a lot 214 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: of the people that he was trying to find publications 215 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: by were not people whose names had become widely circulated 216 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: in any way. UM. We also touched on it, but 217 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: did not go into a lot of detail that, like, 218 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: the reason he was able to build this huge collection 219 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 1: on the salary of the job that he had was 220 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: that the people were not charging a lot of money 221 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 1: for most of this work. So I found noted in 222 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: a couple of places that like he bought um, he 223 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: bought two volumes of Phillis sweet Lew's poems for something 224 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: like twenty or thirty cents, and like that. The fact 225 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:18,199 Speaker 1: that that that was the amount of value that the 226 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: book dealers were putting on this work is why he 227 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: was able to get it all and preserve it all 228 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: and sell it all to the New York Public Library. Yeah, 229 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: that's always an interesting thing. I um, I know, I've 230 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: said on the show before. I used to work for 231 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 1: university library and and worked in acquisitions, so I did 232 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: always marvel at things and their value and what determined 233 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: their value, And I can only imagine, I mean, that 234 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: was in the late nineties and early two thousand's, so 235 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: I can only imagine in the early part of the 236 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: twentieth century how much more cockamami some of it seemed, 237 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: and especially when informed by racism, kind of driving the 238 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: bus of devaluation for sure. So yeah, I I am 239 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: tremendously glad that the Schaumberg Center exists today. I'm glad 240 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: he did so much foundational work that allowed it to exist. 241 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: Maybe when, when, when I'm more into traveling, because you know, 242 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: we're both fully vaccinated, I still haven't gone anywhere aside 243 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: from in my own community yet. Maybe at some point 244 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: I can make a trip to New York and actually 245 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: go there in person, um pending it's also being open 246 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: to the public, which I have not checked on at 247 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: this point yet. But uh yeah, very grateful that I 248 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: got the chance to work on this episode. 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