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Speaker 1: players understand the power that they have. Michael. The future

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Speaker 1: of IndyCar racing is looking bright. Scott Sashnik very basic

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Speaker 1: National Hockey League Commissioner Gary Betman, Atlanta Braves president Derek Schiller,

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Speaker 1: Patriots President Jonathan Kraft. Bloomberg Business of Sports from Bloomberg Radio. Hello,

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Speaker 1: I'm Michael barn I'm Evan Novie Williams, and I'm Scottshnik.

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Speaker 1: Every weekend, this time plus Mondays and Wednesdays, we explore

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Speaker 1: the big money issues in the world of sports. Today,

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Speaker 1: the sixty second running of the Daytona five hundred. That's

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Speaker 1: straight ahead on the Bloomberg Business of Sports Show. But first,

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Speaker 1: let's look at some of the top stories of the week.

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Speaker 1: Beginning with a somewhat bizarre news conference from the Houston Astros.

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Speaker 1: The Major League Baseball club has been under a cloud

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Speaker 1: your fan base, and that's what then that's what we're

428
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Speaker 1: endeavoring to do at all levels. And you have to.

429
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,440
Speaker 1: That's what sports leagues have to do if they're going

430
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Speaker 1: to grow. We are chatting with Steve Phelps, the president

431
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 1: of NASCAR. It seems to me like the only natural

432
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 1: growth outgrowth out of this relationship with Barstool is gonna

433
00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:03,920
Speaker 1: be Nascar pizza. You have it and we don't. But yeah,

434
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 1: I'm sure Day will figure that out and have a

435
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:10,879
Speaker 1: nice review of pizzas somewhere. And but seriously, though, NASCAR

436
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 1: has been looking to sell a limited stakes in the

437
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 1: league for a while now, can you tell us what's

438
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:20,400
Speaker 1: the activity around the possible the possibility of adding a

439
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,639
Speaker 1: strategic partner. Yeah, so we're we're actually not going to

440
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 1: do that. So we and in October we we um

441
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:34,159
Speaker 1: NASCAR merge or with his company. Yeah, most around the

442
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 1: time thought that would make it easier to bring out

443
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 1: a partner, but I think that's not that's not where

444
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 1: you know Jim Jim France and and Lisa France Kennedy

445
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,200
Speaker 1: who owned after they're not interested in doing that at all.

446
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 1: So we are We're going at this on our own.

447
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 1: And they've doubled down on the sport and you know,

448
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 1: we took out a significant or they did a significant

449
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:59,439
Speaker 1: amount of you know, Malone, you know in the billion

450
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Speaker 1: and a half range um to take I s C

451
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 1: private And we did that for all the right reasons,

452
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 1: but their confidence in where the sport is going is

453
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 1: really what fueled that. And so now of those reasons,

454
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 1: say all the right reasons, and what are all the

455
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 1: right reason I'll tell you what they are. Thank you

456
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 1: for that. Um, take something as simple as the schedule, right,

457
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 1: if you're if you're a public company and you know

458
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 1: you're gonna make decisions that are that are in the

459
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 1: best interests of your of your shareholders on a quarterly basis, right,

460
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:37,120
Speaker 1: that's what your responsibility is. Our responsibility is to grow

461
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 1: the sport. So if we believe taking a date from

462
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: an existing track that we own is the best way

463
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,920
Speaker 1: to do that to serve the interests of the sport,

464
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,359
Speaker 1: We're going to do that. I'm not suggesting, you know,

465
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Speaker 1: we're gonna make wholesale changes to where we are racing,

466
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 1: but where it makes sense to you know, go to

467
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,400
Speaker 1: a road course, go to a short track, or whatever

468
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 1: that might be, that's an important element for us to do.

469
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 1: The other thing really has to the other component to

470
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 1: that really is about the effectiveness of these two companies

471
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:13,199
Speaker 1: to come together not efficient. So are there will there

472
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 1: be efficiencies that would be realized with two companies come

473
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 1: together with the redundancies. Of course there will be, but

474
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,199
Speaker 1: it really is more about what's the best way to

475
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Speaker 1: be effective in trying to reach the fan base. See

476
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Speaker 1: the next The next question sponsored by the McKenzie and company.

477
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 1: So well, listen, we we We actually had a relationship

478
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 1: with McKinsey, I don't doubt it, and they came in

479
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,640
Speaker 1: and helped us, you know, get us run the right footing.

480
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,640
Speaker 1: But this is our our decision from here on out right.

481
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:50,440
Speaker 1: So mckensey came in early and helped us with some pitfalls,

482
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 1: to avoid the certain pitfalls. But um, now it's about us.

483
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 1: This is our plan, our vision for where the sport

484
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 1: is going to go. And these two companies coming together,

485
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 1: and it's uh just seeing the early fruits of the

486
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,360
Speaker 1: labor of the of the companies coming together is really exciting.

487
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: And you know, we're gonna centralize a lot of the

488
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 1: functions and we'll have expertise in the areas of marketing

489
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: and communication and UM admissions and ticketing, how we use data. UM,

490
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 1: it's all um, you know, kind of a canvas that

491
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 1: you know we're creating together as one entity, and it's, um,

492
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,120
Speaker 1: it's it's going to work, and I think it's gonna

493
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,120
Speaker 1: work brilliantly, Steve. I'm gonna help you pitch tickets. Next

494
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 1: year's five hundred is February Valentine's Day. That's right, So

495
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,479
Speaker 1: I know where we're going. Bar, No, we're going. I'll

496
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 1: take you to this a better way to spend Valentine's Day, right,

497
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 1: I agree with Michael bar Linda is going to be

498
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 1: a happy G'll love it, I'm telling you. But you

499
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 1: know what's important, even more than that, is that the

500
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Speaker 1: five hundred is one week after the Super Bowl, which

501
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 1: is February seven. Now, there have been questions about, well,

502
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 1: if you if you keep the same schedule you have

503
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: now because we ran the clash, uh Sunday qualifying was

504
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,679
Speaker 1: before that, and then there were questions of well should

505
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 1: there we should we move the race uh sorry, the

506
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 1: qualifying and the clash too, maybe a Saturday or whatever.

507
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 1: And I'm thinking, why do that? Because as a sports junkie,

508
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:28,479
Speaker 1: I've got NASCAR qualifying, and then I've got the Bush Clash,

509
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 1: and then I've got the super Bowl after that, you

510
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: won't get me off the couch after that. A different

511
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: than that, Well, I'm saying, yeah, I think listen, Um,

512
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 1: obviously we don't we we don't want to go against

513
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 1: the super Bowl, right that would make any sense. So

514
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 1: I have nothing to announced today, but obviously as we're

515
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: revamping our schedule me and we'll have some announcements in

516
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 1: the near future that would talk to what happens with qualifying,

517
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 1: talks to what happens with the clash, and you know,

518
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: kind of the reinvention of need weeks down here in Daytona.

519
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,360
Speaker 1: So again, nothing to announce here. You know that obviously

520
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 1: has come up and those that are paying attention, like you, Michael,

521
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,199
Speaker 1: that you know it's a something's gonna need to be

522
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: tweaked for sure, But we're excited about it. It's a

523
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 1: it's a neat opportunity. And having you know, kind of

524
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 1: closing the window from the super Bowl to have it

525
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 1: be one week, I think it'd be excited. You know,

526
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 1: we don't have to you have to wait two weeks

527
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: for the next big sporting event. So it really is

528
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 1: Super Bowl to our super Bowl the week later. So

529
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 1: we're we're excited about it. There's a meme that's going

530
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 1: out right now that my son tweeted it to me

531
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: and has got the late great Dale Earnhardt and has

532
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 1: got on top super Bowl and he has son. All

533
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 1: that means it's two weeks before the Daytona. I love that.

534
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: That's I loved it. That's that's what NASCAR is all about. Hey, Steve,

535
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: is the president coming to the Daytona? Um? You know what?

536
00:28:54,760 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. UM. Certainly, obviously we would um welcome

537
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: any sitting president to be here. UM. Certainly it's a

538
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: big event. You know. I went to the UM National

539
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: Championship Game and UM, so we would love to have

540
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: any sitting president come to the day But those preparations

541
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: would already underway. The Secret Service would have contacted you guys.

542
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 1: Is the possibility that the president is going to be there?

543
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: Is that? Is that in play? It's always It's always

544
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: a possibility, Steve. Last question for you. I had a

545
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: chance to meet Hailey Degan at a at an event

546
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: a couple of months ago. UM, and for someone I

547
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: don't follow, forgive me, I don't follow NASCAR all that closely.

548
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:39,239
Speaker 1: As the legacy of of Danica Patrick breaking through. Are

549
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: there a lot of young female drivers in the pipeline

550
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: and what has that meant for fan base? Are you

551
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 1: seeing more women interacting with NASCAR than they were just

552
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 1: because they're seeing successful drivers that that are like them. Yeah,

553
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: I think it's important for us to do that, you know,

554
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 1: whether you're you know, to increase the kind of look

555
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: and feel of the fan base. People want to root

556
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: for people who are like themselves. So if you are

557
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: you know, you know, Danny Suarez is from Mexico and

558
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: you know, racist in our Top Series and has done

559
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: a phenomenal job over the last two years in our

560
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: Top Series. Or Barbara Wallace, who's African American, UM, or

561
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: Haley Degan and you know, being a UM, we've had

562
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 1: some trailblazers for sure that our females that have raised

563
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: in NASCAR. UM, Danica was very successful. I think people

564
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 1: underestimate that, you know, kind of the success she had.

565
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: She didn't win, UM, but you know, she certainly had

566
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Speaker 1: significant success at what is the most competitive motor sports

567
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: out there. So UM, you know, Haley's Haley's special. UM.

568
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:49,239
Speaker 1: You know her mom and dad are UM, you know,

569
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 1: great supporters of the sport. Obviously great supporters of her. Hers.

570
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 1: I think she's they're taking a very um smart Hey,

571
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 1: let's be patient about you where we're putting her. And

572
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: so she was in Um there was an arca race

573
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: m this past weekend as she finished second here in Daytona.

574
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: And it's um, she's developing. You know, she's great. I mean,

575
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: you had an opportunity to have discussions with her. She's

576
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: she's a great interview. She's got tremendous energy. Um, she's

577
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: going to be a real asset to the sport moving forward.

578
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: And she's just a you know, she's a great kid,

579
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: and you know, we're excited to, you know, continue to

580
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: watch her progress until she gets up to the you know,

581
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: the NASCAR Cup Series, which she we firmly believe she

582
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: will be. She will be a participant in the next

583
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: in the next couple of years. NASCAR President Steve Phelps

584
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: always wanted to do this Sunday, Sunday, the sixty second

585
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: running of the Daytona five the Great American Race. Ricky

586
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: Stanhou's on the pole, Steve Phelps, you know what I'm

587
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 1: gonna be watching on Sunday. Thank you so much, sir

588
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: for joining us. Thank you Scott, Thank you, Michael. It

589
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: was Michael. Can't get a better promo than that. In

590
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: the whole you had the whole voice in the whole deal.

591
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: I have a cold, so I sound like I sound

592
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: like crap, But I appreciate you doing that for me

593
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: as his agent. Feel free to use it without having

594
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: to pay Royal Tapes. That's right. You know what I'm

595
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: gonna be watching on Sunday, and Uh, first the cartoon,

596
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: first the cartoons. Wacky Races will be on first. Uh.

597
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: You know it is exciting as the sixty second running

598
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: of the five for old school fans. Everybody knows that

599
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: Lee Petty won the first one. Everybody knows. Everybody knows

600
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: for old school everybody and and uh, by the way,

601
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: and I didn't get a chance to do this, um

602
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: the second winner of the dayton of Uh and this

603
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: is uh after Lee Petty. Uh, and God rest his soul,

604
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: Junior Johnson and he passed only a few months ago.

605
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: He won the second one and it goes on, uh

606
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: the history of the five d people know, uh every

607
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: and we're gonna find out now who's going to make

608
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 1: history on Sunday. UH. And I'm just excited to watch it.

609
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: I'm I'm pleasantly surprised to hear about the innovation to

610
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: try new things that listen, how do we get the

611
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: video games that you have to do something? And I

612
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: think NASCAR gets a bad rap in that sometimes it

613
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: gets compared to well, it's not the NFL, it's not

614
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: the That's okay. Not everything is going to be the NFL,

615
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: and and that happens with all sports leagues. But it

616
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: was problematic when whenever was being done in the sport

617
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: bar and you would do better than I was. But

618
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 1: remember when he said, like our hardcore fans left us

619
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: and some are coming back. Yeah, what what he was

620
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: getting at? And I like what he said about the

621
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: cars is that because we were feeling like everything they

622
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: were spec cars, you know where they didn't make a

623
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: difference where there was a Ford or a Dodge or

624
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: or a Chevy whatever. Everything looked the same. But back

625
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: in the day, you knew what the Toreno looked like.

626
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: You know what the Dodge charger looked like. Uh, and

627
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: NASCAR got away from that. So I'm glad to hear

628
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: him say they're getting back. I would like to see

629
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: all the drivers driving my Ford Escape around for you know,

630
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: I'd like to see them try and make it around

631
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 1: the oval and that not to go against Ford, but

632
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 1: I will just say it is not the beast of

633
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 1: an engine and some of the other cars they made.

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00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: That That's what I'll leave it at. Yeah, my takeaway.

635
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 1: You know, like a lot of other leagues, NASCAR seems

636
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 1: to be listening to its fans right, and if the

637
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: fans want some kind of more variety in the car,

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Speaker 1: you know, fans want more road races. Okay, let's get

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Speaker 1: add on one calendar of a team Tesla. Can we

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Speaker 1: have electric racing Tesla. It seems as though NASCAR, like

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Speaker 1: for three in a row, because numbers of a a good time.

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Speaker 1: And let's first started wearing the number I would just

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Speaker 1: happy in Floomberg Business of Sports, the number of the week. Time.

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Speaker 1: gonna be a duel. Numbers of the week. Numbers of

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Speaker 1: the week. Richard Petty. Okay, Richard Petty, he has won

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Speaker 1: asking for the Daytona wins. Yeah, there's both, are I say,

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Speaker 1: Richard Petty? I will say he won four Daytonas, Oh,

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Speaker 1: you idiot? He won eight Daytonas. Oh you guys, are

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Speaker 1: you were you were too low? You were too high?

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Speaker 1: He won seven day but over you. And if you

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Speaker 1: many and how many races? Over? I got all miney,

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Speaker 1: I have no idea, but how are you doing the

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Speaker 1: he won the nice round number. I was gonna go

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Speaker 1: high high nine. Did you just said it? You're not kidding.

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Speaker 1: That's it. He won two hundred races. Sorry, you're not

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Speaker 1: He must have been cheating. Oh, that's right, blasphemy. You

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Speaker 1: heard it here. My kid, Petty was a cheating You've

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