1 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to food Stuff. I'm Anyrie and I'm 2 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: Lauren voc Obam, and today we're talking about cotton candy, 3 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: the delightful thing that everyone finds delightful. That's where you're wrong, Lauren. 4 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: I have such strong feelings about count candy. I feel 5 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: like I'm about to get into a fight right now. Um. 6 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: And in the outline when I was doing this series, 7 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: it is littered with all caps, literal booze right at 8 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: the top. Oh yeah, yeah, she's I don't think i've 9 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: seen Annie this angry since the Tipping episode. Oh yeah, 10 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: that was a more legitimate reason to be angry. That 11 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: was certainly a more legitimate reason at this point. I 12 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: don't know this. You call it one of your arch 13 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: never sees. Yeah, oh yeah, you know, everyone's got to 14 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: have at least one food arch Nemeses and cotton candy. 15 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: It turns out as one. And it kind of took 16 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 1: me by surprise because I guess I haven't really thought 17 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: about cotton candy in a while, and it just it 18 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: was there, it was lying underneath. I do not understand this. 19 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, Annie, who hurt you? Like? What like what happened? Oh? 20 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 1: I can tell you what happened. I was in marching band, 21 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: okay and uh. As part of marching band, you had 22 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: to volunteer at the concession stand, okay, at at like 23 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: the football stadium, and uh also at various fairs, local festivals. 24 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: And I was in charge of the cotton candy machine. 25 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: Oh okay. It was on wieldy, It came with no instructions. 26 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: It would burn your fingers and stick everywhere, and it 27 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: was a thankless, thankless job. Oh man, I need like 28 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: a cotton candy therapist. You apparently do. I mean, okay, 29 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: I see you. You're you're seeing there in You're in 30 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: a safe place. Thank you, Lauren. We're gonna get this. 31 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: We're gonna get through this episode together. Okay. We're gonna 32 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: try not to have to new flashbacks of just like 33 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: pink fluff sticking everywhere and hearing people like, where's that 34 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: cotton candy? Annie? Yeah? Wow, all right, So cotton candy? 35 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: What what is it? Well, it is a food that 36 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:00,040 Speaker 1: I find you. You don't see much outside of a 37 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: carnival or amusement park. I personally can't think of the 38 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: time I had it outside of those situations. We had 39 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: a machine at a house to wix Christmas party a 40 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: few years back. It was it was it was that 41 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,839 Speaker 1: year that we like skyped with Santa. Oh I didn't 42 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 1: know Santa was on Skype. Yeah, I knew you could 43 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: follow him on Google Maps. Yeah. Yeah. Um, they skyped 44 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: Santa in to talk to us. I think I think 45 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: that was the last roxand party she threw. She threw 46 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: great parties. She did one of our ex X managers 47 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: roxand Lovely Woman. Um. Anyway, cotton candy, Uh, it's um 48 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: made up of primarily one thing, and that is sugar 49 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: and maybe food dies and flavorings, but mostly sugar. Yes. 50 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: Cotton candy is a non crystalline form of sugar candy. 51 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: It's made from sugar syrup that's cooked and then spun 52 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: out like literally into these brittle threads that are a 53 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: pliable to the touch because they're so dang thin, so 54 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: like fifty microns wide, which is something like the width 55 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: of a human hair. Um. Cotton candy is frequently served 56 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: as in a sort of like rough ball on a 57 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: stick or paper cone and looks a little bit like 58 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: a cotton ball or a cloud or like fiberglass. One 59 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: of these things you should not eat. Cotton candy is 60 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 1: technically an amorphous solid like glass or lollipops. Huh m hmm. Alright, alright, Um, 61 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:25,799 Speaker 1: you can get all types of flavors of catton candy, 62 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: blue raspberry, banana, raspberry, watermelon, chocolate. There's artisanal cotton candy, 63 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: earl gray, horte, chatta, lighty green tea, mango, chili, champagne, champagne, 64 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: catd candy. But the baseline cotton candy flavor it's just vanilla. 65 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: It's like pink vanilla, so it doesn't I mean, and 66 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: it's also got probably a little bit of like caramelization 67 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: flavor in there somewhere, but mostly vanilla things I never realized. Yeah, well, 68 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: if you look at the neut Christian value I've gotten candy, 69 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: it's not no no, but I mean of fair foods. 70 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely, because for one out serving, it's got 71 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: about a hundred and five calories. Those are mostly sugar calories. Um, 72 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: and that does make it almost profit after you've like 73 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: invested in the machine and I guess electricity to heat it. Um. 74 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: There is in that a hundred and five calories serving 75 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 1: only about twenty six grams of sugar, which is about 76 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: two thirds of what's in a can of coke. It's 77 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 1: it's really mostly air. Uh And yeah, as you said, 78 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 1: like as fair ground foods go, like, it is certainly 79 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 1: not the worst you can do. Oh, no, more than 80 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,239 Speaker 1: more than once in the past, like two weeks, people 81 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: have brought up fried butter in my presence and I'm 82 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: still curious, curious, horrified, curious. I've never had it either. 83 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: So a listeners in in um um asage about the 84 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: Texas fair and Jeer saying that they had fried margarita's 85 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 1: And I am really curious about that. Huh. I wonder 86 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: if it's one of those like like a like Jello 87 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 1: cube kind of situations. Maybe we really will find a 88 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: way to fry just about anything here. And there's the 89 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: us of a but there's gotten candy. Oh, I'm positive 90 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: there is, now that you mention it. You know, count calories, 91 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: just find a way, calories find a way. I'm pretty sure. 92 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 1: Jeff Goldbloom said that, yes, I made that joke in 93 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: a recent podcast. He's on my brain lately. I guess 94 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: he's on everyone's brain. Sure, thank you lord. Anyway, well, 95 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: let's talk a little bit about how it's made. If 96 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:53,679 Speaker 1: we look at a semi automated machine making cat candy. 97 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: You can hold about three pounds of sugar spinning at 98 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: over three thousand, four hundred revolutions a minute, and that 99 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: turns out about for servings in that minute. And let's 100 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: talk a little bit about how that works. So okay, 101 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: a cotton candy machine works like this. You heat sugar 102 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: and a metal cylinder to what's called in candy making 103 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: the hard crack stage um that's used to make hard candies, 104 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: toffee stuff like that. That's about three degrees fahrenheit or 105 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: a hundred and forty nine celsius like right and right 106 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: in that sort of range um. When sugar is that hot, 107 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: it's typically a liquid, and that liquid is then literally 108 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: spun out of the cylinder through tiny tiny holes in it. 109 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: When the sugar comes into contact with the air, it 110 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: cools off so fast that it hardens instantaneously without having 111 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: a chance to crystallize again. It's trapped in this glassy 112 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: state in the form of long, thin threads. You can 113 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: collect the threads as they spin out of the cylinder, 114 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: or let them collect on the inside edges of a 115 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: bowl that you place the cylinder in. M M I 116 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: read that you used to get free cotton candy at 117 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: the end of a meal at Four Seasons in New 118 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: York City. Huh, I don't know. I believe it. I 119 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: mean I never went there. It's closed now hypothetically they're 120 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: rebooting it like later this year. She just did a 121 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: looking at her watch motion, even though I'm not wearing 122 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: a watch and it doesn't say anything about Four Seasons. 123 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: And also an audio medium frequently have discussed, well, here's 124 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: another weird thing about cotton candy. And I'm really trying 125 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: to contain my emotions here, but um, National Cotton Candy 126 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:41,319 Speaker 1: Day is December seven. That's a strange time for I mean, 127 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: probably the summer days were just already filled up. I 128 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: didn't there any day that's free pearl harbor happing cotton candy. 129 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: I didn't think that anything. I mean I thought they 130 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: could overlap anyway. Yeah. Yeah, But it's not just a 131 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: thing in the United States. It's also called candy floss 132 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: in the UK, fairy flows in Australia, sugar thread in Italy, 133 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: I mean like an Italian um, and papa's beard in 134 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: France la barba papa. Oh, I'm not making that up. Okay, 135 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it makes sense. It's yeah, yeah, it's 136 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: very beard like. Sure, both of us were again making 137 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:23,959 Speaker 1: a physical gesture. Yes we were. Uh. And this is 138 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: one of the foods that has a pretty concrete history 139 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: and we will get into that as soon as we 140 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 1: get back from a break. For a word from our sponsor, 141 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: and we're back. Thank you, sponsor, Yes, thank you. And 142 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: the history of this one does remind me very much 143 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: of our popsical episode, Um no quiescently frozen confections. Oh yes, 144 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 1: good catch, good catch. You haven't heard from them yet, 145 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: but any day now we could hear a knock on 146 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: our podcast studio door. Okay. What I mean by that 147 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: is it is fairly new. Before it was called cotton candy, 148 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 1: it was called sponge sugar, and that does go back 149 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: to century Italy. They had these big vats of melting 150 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: sugar that they'd spin around with a fork and broom handle. 151 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: That's pretty much what I was doing at this football game. Um, 152 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: this method was used to make fancy caramel mast around 153 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: croakam bush and the like, and it's still possibly sometimes 154 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,559 Speaker 1: you used to Yeah, yeah, spunglasses still or sponge sugar 155 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: glass is definitely still a thing. Very pretty. I've never 156 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 1: really seen it, and then I looked it up for 157 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: this episode. Very pokey, but very pretty, very pokey. Noted noted, Um, 158 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 1: other European chefs would make golden rings that resembled glass. 159 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: So yes, this was first a rich person's food. Oh yeah, 160 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 1: sugar was expensive and it takes time to work with it. Absolutely, 161 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: And speaking of in the sixteenth century, Frances Henri the 162 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: third went to Venice for an official state visit, and 163 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 1: he was welcomed with an entire meal of sugar one 164 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 1: thousand two six items down to the sugar spun cut 165 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: early and napkin and tablecloth. And remember Marie Antoine Karem, 166 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 1: We've spoken about him several times. Um, he would make 167 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: all kinds of sugar constructions. In six the Experienced English 168 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: Housekeeper included a recipe for sweetmeats covered in a sugary web. 169 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: But if we're talking about the fluffy cloud things that 170 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: kids get at fairs, that was far more recent, like recent. 171 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: Our story begins with a dentist, A dentist, A dentist. Yes, 172 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: he was also only getting ink. I know I need 173 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: to shell out, I need to like go have a 174 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: cool down after this. Maybe maybe we should go up 175 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: to the roof and I should get some kind of 176 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: candy and try to recapture my youth before the football games. Yeah, 177 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: maybe we should. Maybe we should, Maybe we should. Well, 178 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: we're put back on that absolutely So. This dentist was 179 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: also an author of children's stories, and he was based 180 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 1: in Nashville, Tennessee. His name was William James Morrison, and 181 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: he was a friend of Woodrow Wilson, and along with 182 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: a friend of his who worked in the candy biz, 183 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 1: John C. Wharton, he came up with what they called 184 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: the Electric Candy Machine. Yeah, and in the outline I wrote, 185 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: oh here we go, and all caps, this is the 186 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: root of my problem. Like if I had a time machine, 187 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: I'd go back. No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't Anyway. What 188 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 1: this machine did was melt sugar in a spinny chamber 189 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 1: spinning at three thousand revolutions a minute, and then air 190 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: would push the sugary substance out through a mesh cage 191 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 1: and into the outer chamber, resulting in the fluffy, stringy 192 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: stuff that we call cotton candy. Yes, and stringing because 193 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: fifteen microns in diameter like Laura mentioned before. At the time, though, 194 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 1: it was called fairy floss because dentist. Oh, I guess 195 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 1: maybe very fairy floss. That's cute. Yeah, that's cute. It's good. 196 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: Two fs aliteration always good. It's it's a nice mental image. Yeah. 197 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: I don't know why we're saying this, like we're trying 198 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: to justify what they called it fair. I'm just I'm 199 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 1: just happy that you found something to be happy about 200 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: in this episode. Annie, trying to dwell on it as 201 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: long as possible. I'll yeah, thank you, I'll hold onto 202 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: that throughout throughout the rest. Um Morrison also helped invent 203 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: the process behind Nashville's first water treatment plan. And not 204 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 1: only that he tasted his brain with coming up with 205 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: a large substitute using cotton seed. And not only that, 206 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: he was named president of the Tennessee State Dental Association 207 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: in and the anger came back in right here, and 208 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: I went on this whole side rant about dentist and 209 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 1: why was he trying to find this um, why would 210 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 1: he invent a machine for sugar if not to cause 211 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: more cabins. A whole conspiracy theory that yes, he was 212 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: just trying to cause more cavities, and I figured you 213 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: out kind candy, but we won't go into that. Debuted 214 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: on a large scale at the nineteen o four St. 215 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: Louis World Fair. And I don't think we've ever mentioned, 216 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: but this World Fair lasted for seven months. It wasn't 217 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: like a single weekend. Yeah. I think that's what I 218 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: originally thought when I was first hearing about these world fairs, 219 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: that they were kind of like, yoh, get away for 220 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: a day. Nope, seven months. By now, Morrison and Wharton 221 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: had sold the patent to the National based Electric Candy 222 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: Machine Company, and cents would get you a box of 223 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: fairy floss. This was half of the cost of mission, 224 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: by the way, so nothing just new that people snapped 225 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: up almost sixty six thousand boxes anyway, almost half a 226 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: million in today's money. Oh yeah, the machine won most 227 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: novel device in the way of electrical machinery, and they 228 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: started leasing the machines were and Morrison did for two 229 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: dollars a year or twenty five a month. And let's 230 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: also mention that at this very same fair we got 231 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: peanut butter, hot Ducks, iced tea, and Hamburgers. Brands like 232 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: Dr Pepper and popsnicles as America right. There also a 233 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: lot of topics we've covered. Absolutely. A year after the 234 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: World Fair they got a patent for their machine, and 235 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: a year after that candy stores could buy the Fairy 236 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: Foss machine. Very little a change about this machine to 237 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: this day. They're more reliable, that's one thing. The early 238 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: models were really loud and easily sidelined, like like knocked 239 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: right off their access yeah, and just jumbling around too much. Simultaneously, 240 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: Thomas Patton got a patent for caramelized sugar made with 241 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: a fork. He eventually added in a gas fired rotating plate, 242 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: and Fairy Floss took on the name Cotton Candy, at 243 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: least in the US in the nine twenties. And you 244 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: won't believe this, but it comes to us from another 245 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: dentist in the candy business, Joseph Lasco. Lasco tried to 246 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: improve on the faults of Wharton and Morrison's machine, but 247 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: alas no die. Oh and he was selling this stuff 248 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: to his patients. By the way, just if you want 249 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: to have your own conspiracy theories, now reach your own decisions. 250 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: Yes we are saying nothing one way or the other, 251 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: but perhaps inflection is saying enough. Um, Cincinnati's Gold Medal 252 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: Products came out with a spring base for the fairy 253 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: flass machines that improved production in and to this day 254 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: they are very close to holding a monopoly of cotton 255 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 1: candy machines. Yeah okay, yeah, that that springloaded bases just 256 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 1: makes it way less dangerous as it turns out. Yeah. 257 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,959 Speaker 1: They also came up with the technique patented in nine 258 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 1: one for rolling out a paper thin, perfectly tapered paper 259 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: that was perfect for cotton candy. Oh for yeah that 260 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:24,199 Speaker 1: like the cone, Yeah exactly there. And before the nineteen 261 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: seventies you would be hard pressed to find a cotton 262 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: candy machine outside of a fair circus, but that changed 263 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: in nineteen seventeen two with the advent of a machine 264 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: that automatically manufactured and packaged cotton candy. So hello mass production. 265 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And the way that these work is UM 266 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: by spinning the threads of sugar that the little little 267 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: cylinder thing spits out not onto a bowl or onto 268 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: a cone, but onto a conveyor belt, and the conveyor 269 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 1: belt then pulls the threads into a machine that uses 270 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 1: these teflon coated rollers to kind of bundle them into 271 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: this big airy block, which is then cut into individual 272 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 1: segments and sealed into air tight bags. Um. It's important 273 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 1: that the bags are air tight because air contains moisture 274 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: and water melts sugar. Yeah, so yeah, so you don't 275 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 1: you don't want moisture in their sealed bags. Shipped to 276 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 1: two fair grounds and grocery stores across the country for 277 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 1: really inferior cotton candy product. According to me, we did. 278 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,479 Speaker 1: We did have a discussion about this before the podcast starts. 279 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: And I have strong feelings about cotton candy as as 280 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 1: is clear, But so does Lauren about fresh versus supermarket. Yeah. Yeah, 281 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 1: if you're gonna have cotton candy, have it fresh. That's 282 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 1: it's the only way. It's the only way to fly. 283 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 1: Did you have a preferred flavor? I think just regular 284 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 1: plane cotton candy flavor cotton candy, which I guess is vanilla. 285 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: Now is that pink or blue? It's pink? I think 286 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: it was both. I think it was frequently both. Um. 287 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: I know that I literally cannot remember ever having a 288 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: different flavor of cotton candy. I remember remember friends having 289 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: it and me going, uh, like you like like trend 290 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: chaser yeah, like, like, how dare you have that green 291 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: apple flavored cotton candy? What is this? A now and later? Boy, 292 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: when you were a child, did you have a have 293 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: a favorite flavor? I feel like cotton candy to me, 294 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: I agree that I would never have guessed it was vanilla. 295 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: To me, it was more of a texture experience, right, 296 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 1: sweet texture experience because it kind of gets like almost 297 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: chewy or sure, totally yeah, as it's exposed to this 298 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: alive in your mouth. Yeah, so it wasn't really a 299 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: flavor so much as just like sugar that had an 300 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 1: interesting texture thing, texture experience. Yeah, no, no, I totally 301 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: feel you. Um. We're going to talk a little bit 302 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: more about how that texture experience comes about the physics 303 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 1: and chemistry of cotton candy, But first we're going to 304 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,360 Speaker 1: take one more quick break for a word for our sponsor, 305 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: and we're back. Thank you, sponsor, Yes, thank you. So 306 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: this is not the first candy that we're talking about 307 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 1: here on food stuff. We did talk about marshmallows ones, 308 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: and y'all may remember from that episode if you've listened 309 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: to it, that candy making is objectively horrifying, Yeah, because 310 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 1: it generally involves melting sugar and molten sugar is edible, napalm, 311 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: dangerous stuff, as Annie can well tell you. Absolutely, okay, alright. 312 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: Many candies do start with just one ingredient, sugar a 313 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: k a. Granulated crystals of sucros. There's frequently a little 314 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: bit of water involved too, because the way that you 315 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: make candy out of grains of sugar is generally that 316 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 1: you use heat to turn the nice, orderly crystal structure 317 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 1: of the sucros molecules into disorderly liquid goop. Adding a 318 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 1: little bit of water to the mix helps you manage 319 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: the pace of that. But cotton candy plays fast and loose, 320 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: fine grained sugar goes straight into that heating cylinder and 321 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: breaks down into liquid. And okay, As it turns out, 322 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: sugar does not have a single precise melting point. The 323 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: temperature at which it's crystals breakdown actually varies based on 324 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 1: how quickly you heat it. If you heat sugar slowly, 325 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: those those crystals will break down at lower temperatures. If 326 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: you heat it quickly, it can withstand higher temperatures before 327 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: it melts. And I could be wrong at any any 328 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: chemists out there check in, but I think that This 329 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: might actually be the trick to making cotton candy possible, 330 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: because when you when you heat sugar past a certain point, 331 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: you'll go beyond busting apart these supras molecules from each 332 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: other in out of their crystalline form, You'll start actually 333 00:21:54,840 --> 00:22:00,040 Speaker 1: busting apart the molecules themselves. The sucros decomposes in to 334 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: glucose and fructose as it gets hotter, which those then 335 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: lose water and react with one another, forming hundreds of 336 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: new and tasty aerobatic compounds. That's caramelization. But you don't 337 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 1: want that with cotton candy, or at least not a 338 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 1: whole lot of it. So exposing the sugar to sudden 339 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: high heat, let's it melt without caramelizing. And the sudden 340 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 1: change back to room temperature when the liquid sugar is 341 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: expressed out through that spinning cylinder, combined with the enormous 342 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: surface area of the of the thin, thin, thin threads 343 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 1: um allowing heat to disipate quickly, all of that makes 344 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: the sucrose molecules cling up in solid form again, but 345 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: this time their structure is not orderly in crystalline, but 346 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: but disorderly and a morphous um. It's sort of like 347 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: the like the difference between a quartz crystal pendant and 348 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 1: a window pane. All right, like like left to its 349 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: own devices, the molecules will naturally order themselves in this 350 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: very particular crystalline way. But through particular heat treatment, we 351 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: can form them into any shape we like. And in 352 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: the case of cotton candy, that shape that we like 353 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 1: is super fine threads that melt in your mouth. Wow, 354 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 1: if you know what you're doing, you can form them. No, 355 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: it was the machine's fault. Don't blame yourself. Many Yeah, No, 356 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 1: that was they At the very least, it should have 357 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: come with instructions. Someone should have told me what someone. 358 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 1: I mean, you were a teenager and they gave you 359 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: something that was heating something to certainly above three hundred 360 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: degrees and they were just like, good luck, kid. And 361 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 1: yet I did it every Friday for like years. You 362 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: never let you were never like hey, hey, Barry, you 363 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: come you come get the cotton candy machine. Today. I 364 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 1: did try to, like coln this one parent into helping me, 365 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 1: and he like he did it for maybe maybe seven 366 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: minutes and then just walked away and he's like, I'm 367 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: not making anymore. Well, yeah, so I mean, man, adults 368 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 1: failing you. Yeah, every turn. I know, it's like a 369 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: a very chamb version of Harry Potter exactly. Yeah. Well, 370 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: I'm glad that you've lived through that. It's helped make 371 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: you the person that you are today. You are so kind. 372 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: I obviously have some issues to work through when it 373 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 1: comes to cotton candy, and I appreciate everyone bearing with 374 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 1: me as I attempt to wade through the trauma that 375 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: is working in the high school banned concession stand. I 376 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,919 Speaker 1: think that everyone understands. I think that you know, we 377 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,959 Speaker 1: all have our we all have our cotton candy. We 378 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 1: do all have our con candy, and I do not 379 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: begrudge or I try not to begrudge people for liking 380 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: cot candy because it is very cool. I mean, that's 381 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 1: neat science behind it. History is interesting, even if I'm 382 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 1: still a little perplexed about the so many dentists. But yeah, 383 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: enjoy way. I remember it being a very fun experience 384 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 1: as a child, mostly just again because it was like 385 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 1: kind of brightly colored share in an interesting experience, and 386 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 1: it usually met you were at some kind of fun event, right, Yeah, 387 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 1: the excitement, the kind of sugar rush. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, 388 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: but that's the end of our kind candy episode. It is, 389 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 1: it is, and it brings us to listener male. Yeah, 390 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: I felt like we were in a musical number with 391 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 1: that one. It's like a lot of hand movement and 392 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:51,120 Speaker 1: there was it was very fasty, it was. It was okay, 393 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 1: so um. Colarissa wrote in about our peanut butter episode, 394 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,120 Speaker 1: the combination I am about to describe is best served 395 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:03,120 Speaker 1: on waffles already in colorasa you really want the ingredients 396 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 1: trapped in the little squares, but it is also acceptable 397 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: on pancakes as an easy alternative. Begin with shredded cheddar cheese. Okay, tillamuck. 398 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: Tillamok is the suggested brand because it is award winning 399 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: medium cheddar and the flavor blends better than cheaper brands, 400 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: and because we are visiting tillamooks Cheese factory. Next comes 401 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: the peanut better. The family is divided between Skippy and Jiff, 402 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: each side taking a firm stance on their preference, but 403 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 1: crunchy versus creamy has been deemed at the choice of 404 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: the diner in question. Finally, maple syrup combed up and 405 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: drizzled over it all. Mrs Butterworth is my grandma's previence 406 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 1: and therefore the original in my view. This combination has 407 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 1: disgusted friends and roommates who have dined with me for years, 408 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: but it's amazingly delicious. I've even managed to get a 409 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 1: converter to to now the fun history. We always thought 410 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: this was a funny family quirk. My grandpa always did 411 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 1: this on waffles, and we all got it from him. 412 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 1: He was raised in southern Utah in a tiny farming town. 413 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 1: One summer during college, I got an internship near Zion 414 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 1: National Park. Living on site at the resort meant that 415 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 1: I ate with other employees for all three meals, and 416 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: inevitably they saw my breakfast monstrosity. Then the day arrived 417 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: or a group of employees had gone to the nearby 418 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: town for the night and had breakfast at an old 419 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: family run restaurant. So and behold on the menu was 420 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: waffles with peanut butter and cheese, served with warm maple 421 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: syrup on the side. My grandpa's hometown was less than 422 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 1: an hour away. My coworkers recognized the dish, asked its origin, 423 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 1: and apparently it's an old favorite of southern Utah locals. 424 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: They came back amazed and excited to tell me their discovery. 425 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's great. Oh I try it, I try 426 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,360 Speaker 1: a heartbeat. Oh definite. Well, I mean it involves peanut butter. 427 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: I really appreciate everyone who's like updating me on their 428 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: peanut butter preferences. It's the best. Somebody just sent me 429 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: a picture of like all of her peanut butter, like 430 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: all of his or her and like all of the 431 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: families peanut butter, like like jars for them, jars for 432 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: the dogs, jars for like that fancy times. Yeah. I 433 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,439 Speaker 1: love it. Yeah I'm not. I'm not as alone as 434 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: I previously imagined. Um Jason wrote the reason I'm writing 435 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: to you is related to your toasting episode. One of 436 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: my previous companies I worked for sent me to a 437 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: small town in Sweden to learn about metalwork and how 438 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: steel was made. The company has been around for over 439 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: a hundred and fifty years, so over that time they've 440 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: developed a unique toasting ritual. They created a company toasting 441 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: songbook that you would turn to a specific page every 442 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: time a toast was deemed necessary. It's a small four 443 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: by six inch book with about fifty pages full of 444 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: different toasts in Swedish and in English translation. It even 445 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: had the company logo. One evening they invited me in 446 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: my young colleagues to a fancy six course meal at 447 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 1: the company's mansion. Before dinner, we would have a beer 448 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: or two at the bar, Then after we sat down 449 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: at the table, we would be served a red wine 450 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 1: and someone would pull out the company Toasting book like 451 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: ampeptist hymnal and would toast. Every course would be accompanied 452 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: by a toast from the book, along with a new 453 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: wine pairing. They even had specific toasts for schnaps. In addition, 454 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: throughout the evening, people would randomly make toasts just so 455 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: they could read from the book. After dinner, we would 456 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: have biscuits and brandy to finish off the night, assuming 457 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 1: you could still stand. All in all, there would be 458 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: about nine to ten toasts that evening. Wow that I 459 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: appreciate that level of dedication so much too. Ah, that's 460 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: terrific toasting a company toasting book. Why don't we have 461 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: one for house to work? This awesome? Well, you know 462 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 1: we could fix that. We are the ones. We are. 463 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 1: We are we are the music makers, and we are 464 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: the dreamers of the dreams. We can this happen. We can, uh, 465 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: just because I've been playing, um, some old video games lately. 466 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: This sounds like the beginning of a resident evil game. 467 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: You're in. Imagine dinner, making some toasts. Oh no, I 468 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: don't know. Well, it sounds like everything turned out. It 469 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: seems like these zombie apocalypse was not upon Jason at 470 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: that moment. But it's good. Yes, good for you, Jason. 471 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 1: You got out lucky this time. This time. So thanks 472 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: to both of them for emailing us. You too can 473 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: send us an email. Our email is food Stuff at 474 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: usta dot com. 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