WEBVTT - EA Podcast: Episode 9 Featuring Chad Pennington 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:03.000 Hey, this is Ryan Fitzpatrick and you are listening to 0:00:03.040 --> 0:00:06.160 the e A Podcast with Eric Allen. Take it away, 0:00:06.200 --> 0:00:12.000 all right? Chad Pennington joins me as always his weekly 0:00:12.039 --> 0:00:16.280 appearance on the e A Podcast. Chad, First Things First, 0:00:16.440 --> 0:00:19.320 news out of Flooring Park here on Wednesday, the Jets 0:00:19.400 --> 0:00:26.560 place Eric Decker injured reserve. Your thoughts, well, I know 0:00:26.680 --> 0:00:30.480 that there are different rules on injury reserve now than 0:00:30.520 --> 0:00:34.320 there were when I was playing, But obviously it's a 0:00:34.600 --> 0:00:38.880 slight blow to the armor of the Jets offensively. Um, 0:00:39.040 --> 0:00:42.640 no doubt about it. When you lose a high quality 0:00:42.680 --> 0:00:45.720 player like Eric Decker, who means so much to your 0:00:45.760 --> 0:00:48.840 offense and to all the players in the huddle, it's 0:00:48.840 --> 0:00:51.879 a blow. But you know, as a team, you can 0:00:51.920 --> 0:00:53.840 either look at it as a challenge or you can 0:00:53.840 --> 0:00:55.760 look at it as an opportunity if if you're a 0:00:55.840 --> 0:00:59.360 guy who hasn't had many opportunities to now show what 0:00:59.520 --> 0:01:01.840 you can do and how you can contribute to help 0:01:01.920 --> 0:01:05.319 the team win. So, um, it's one of those things 0:01:05.360 --> 0:01:08.880 where it's it's certainly tough for Eric cut for the team, 0:01:08.959 --> 0:01:11.320 but also it's time for someone else to step up 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:17.200 and help out. Why did Fitzpatrick have such good rhythm 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:22.280 with in chemistry with Ducker off the bat. Take us 0:01:22.319 --> 0:01:25.120 back to last year and when Fits obviously had thirty 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:29.679 one touchdown passes, but both he was in sync with 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:34.080 Marshall and Ducker immediately, and that carried in to the 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:38.440 two thousand sixteen season as well. Well. I think both 0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:42.080 receivers are very quarterback friendly. And when you say that, 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:47.280 what you mean by that is that, Um, they have 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:50.360 a mindset like a quarterback when they run routes, and 0:01:50.400 --> 0:01:52.840 so when they run routes, they understand where the quarterbacks 0:01:52.840 --> 0:01:55.520 are trying to put the ball, They understand positioning with 0:01:55.560 --> 0:02:01.320 their body, and quarterbacks like Patrick they trust receivers like 0:02:01.400 --> 0:02:03.880 that because they know that when they let go of 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:07.120 the ball and it's going to receiver like Becker or Marshall, 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:10.960 that normally good things are going to happen. Very rarely 0:02:11.160 --> 0:02:13.320 the bad things happen. Only bad thing that can happen 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:17.400 with being incomplete, but very rarely doesn't interception happen or 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:20.720 anything like that. So it's a trust level. Sometimes you 0:02:20.720 --> 0:02:25.720 can't explain that between quarterback and receiver. It just happened naturally. Um, 0:02:25.800 --> 0:02:27.920 you just have a natural affinity for a guy, our 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:30.320 natural fields for a guy, and then other times it's 0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:33.720 it's something that you've worked on, uh, through the years 0:02:33.720 --> 0:02:35.919 and through practices and things like that. But with these 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:38.680 two guys, I think with fitz Patrick, it just happened naturally. 0:02:38.720 --> 0:02:41.799 He just really had a great feel for those two receivers. 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:44.000 I think because of their body types number one, how 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:47.480 they run route and and and they're catching ability. To 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:51.160 think he developed a quick trust in those guys. All right, Chad. 0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:53.680 The big word this week has been finishing for the 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:56.520 team as a whole. But when you think about the 0:02:56.560 --> 0:02:59.600 offense inside the opponent's twenty last year number three in 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:04.840 the Nasty No Football League in terms of finishing with touchdowns. 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:11.040 This year, the Jets red zone offense, they're completing just 0:03:12.280 --> 0:03:15.560 those drives inside the twenty with touchdowns, So that makes 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:19.760 them tied for this year. And now you take Decker 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:22.960 out of the equation. How big of a challenge is 0:03:23.000 --> 0:03:26.960 this for Jan Galley and Ryan Fitzpatrick. Well, that certainly 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:30.520 hurts because Eric Decker's production in the red zone was 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:34.680 tremendous last year and uh, he was someone that Ryan 0:03:34.800 --> 0:03:37.680 really trusted, and you have to have even a higher 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:40.720 trust level in the red zone because the space is 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:44.720 more confined. Um. You don't have a lot of room 0:03:44.840 --> 0:03:48.720 to operate, and so your anticipation level has to be 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:52.320 even greater UM. And you've got to trust that if 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:54.600 if you're wrong, there's a quarterback that your receiver is 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:57.400 going to make you right and how he runs routes 0:03:57.440 --> 0:04:00.960 and things like that, and so when you use a 0:04:01.000 --> 0:04:05.160 receiver like Decker in that area, that really hurts. And 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:07.920 so now I think the running game has to come 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:09.880 to the forefront the running game. You've got to help 0:04:09.920 --> 0:04:14.440 out in the red zone to create more goal line 0:04:14.560 --> 0:04:17.840 situations inside the five. Get the running game to get 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:20.159 that ball inside the five score You can either pound 0:04:20.200 --> 0:04:24.320 it in or you can use different personnel groups and 0:04:24.360 --> 0:04:27.200 be creative that way. Uh. You also have to use 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:29.480 those running backs in the passing game and be able 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:33.440 to get them one on one with these linebackers, because 0:04:33.480 --> 0:04:35.480 we know that Brandon Marshall is going to see more 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:39.039 and more double team coverage with Decker out, and then 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:41.080 the Noon law has now have to he has to 0:04:41.080 --> 0:04:43.800 be able to step into that role of Eric Decker 0:04:43.880 --> 0:04:46.320 and be able to make some plays down there as well. Yeah, Noon, 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:49.839 what right now? He is the jets number two receiver 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:53.760 going forward until Docker comes back, of course, and then 0:04:54.320 --> 0:04:57.320 you can rank them any way you want. But as 0:04:57.360 --> 0:05:00.800 far as the way opponent, the funds of coordinated is 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:04.000 gonna look at the Jets, like you mentioned, obviously they 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:07.640 go to fifteen first, but now it's Quincy and Nona 0:05:08.120 --> 0:05:11.680 as that second target. He actually leads the Jets with 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:14.440 twenty seven receptions. And I said this on Inside the 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:18.240 Jets uh the other night, and I repeated on one 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:21.440 of our website website videos on New Ropes dot com 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:24.280 that he's by one of the bright spots here early 0:05:24.400 --> 0:05:26.719 this season for a one in four club, leads a 0:05:26.720 --> 0:05:29.640 team with twenty seven receptions, and he continues to flash, 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:33.640 I think each and every week. He certainly does. There 0:05:33.640 --> 0:05:35.960 has been a little bit of inconsistency, but not as 0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:38.040 much as last year. He's been able to become more 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:41.599 consistent make some plays, and so that's that's a very 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:43.760 positive scene for the future of the Jets when you're 0:05:43.800 --> 0:05:47.040 looking at the receiving corps and your younger players starting 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:49.880 to produce, and so that's good. And and now that 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:53.200 production even has to increase even more. It's not necessarily 0:05:53.279 --> 0:05:56.159 in volume of catches that has to increase. It's going 0:05:56.200 --> 0:06:00.400 to have to increase UH in situational um away earness, 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:05.039 and and in critical situations where the third down, the 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:08.440 red zones, the plays that truly matter in a game 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:11.479 or affect the game where the focus will be on 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:13.840 Brandon Marshall. Now Noon Law really has to come to 0:06:13.920 --> 0:06:17.279 forefront and make those big plays to keep drives alive 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:19.920 until points on the board. How do you establish more 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:23.400 chemistry if you're fits, because you're breaking in a lot 0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:26.200 of new players right now, Austin Seferie and Jenkins. He 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:29.520 made a couple of catches against the Pittsburgh Steelers. I 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:33.080 like what I've seen of him. What I've seen of 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:38.080 him and limited time, big dude can run. Looks fluid 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:41.280 as far as a route runner is concerned. But then 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:45.239 you have the rookie receivers again Robby Anderson, Geron Peak, 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:48.520 who are going to be dependent on as you move forward. 0:06:48.560 --> 0:06:52.640 The Jetsice made a waiver claim this week, acquiring a 0:06:52.720 --> 0:06:57.159 former Baltimore Raven, Jeremy Butler. We'll see how he factors 0:06:57.200 --> 0:07:02.440 into the equation forte. While he's a Vet and obviously 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:05.479 he's made quite a smooth transition. He's new to the 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:08.159 offense as well, so there's a lot of new moving parts. 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:11.720 And what I think is overlooked in all this, too, 0:07:12.400 --> 0:07:15.280 is the Jets have been shuffling up front all year, 0:07:15.600 --> 0:07:19.000 but Eigilana is playing right tackle. Brno Jockomini started this 0:07:19.080 --> 0:07:22.840 year on the pup list. Brant Quality was alternating series 0:07:23.120 --> 0:07:26.640 with Igilana at right tackle, but with Winners out with 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:28.840 the concussion, he was at right guard. And then Nick 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:32.720 Mangold went out Sunday with the knee injury, so Wesley 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:35.640 Johnson had to come into the ball game. So there's 0:07:35.680 --> 0:07:38.280 a lot of moving parts from Ryan Fitzpatrick right now, 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:42.880 no doubt about it, Eric, And that makes it extremely 0:07:42.880 --> 0:07:45.840 tough for continuity within the offense. It makes it extremely 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:49.400 tough for quarterbacks to established rhythm. I think the biggest 0:07:49.440 --> 0:07:51.400 challenge as a quarterback when you're dealing with a lot 0:07:51.440 --> 0:07:55.120 of changes is to still remain in equal opportunity quarterback. 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:58.160 Sometimes what you can do when you start to lose 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:00.840 some of your key guy is that you start to 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:03.080 just focus on the guy that you're very familiar with, 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:05.160 and then you start to force the ball in the 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:08.240 coverage and so The biggest challenge for a quarterback is 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:10.720 to yes, you know, most of our plays will be 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:12.720 designed to get it to our number one and number 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:15.480 two guys, but when they are covered, I have to 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:18.160 trust these third and fourth guys to be able to 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:20.440 at least make some simple plays for me, whether it 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:24.600 be in the checkdown game or the underneath game, whatever 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:26.760 it may be. Allowed him to make a few plays 0:08:26.760 --> 0:08:30.080 a game for me to keep the defense a little 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:32.000 bit loose at least, and to keep me as a 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:35.280 quarterback from making bad decisions. That that's the biggest thing. 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:37.400 What do you make it fits his game? In Pittsburgh, 0:08:37.480 --> 0:08:40.760 the Jets moved up and down the field in the 0:08:40.840 --> 0:08:45.960 first half, four consecutive drives in plus a territory. We're 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:48.760 only able to come up with the thirteen points to 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:51.559 Nick Folk field goals, and Brandon Marshall makes the great 0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:55.600 play off over the cornerback Ross Cockrowl there in the 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:58.760 corner of the enzone, plays a tip drill uh. Tremendous 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:02.760 reception on his part, but done in the second half. 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:05.680 And we've seen this lately from the Jets on both 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:09.080 sides of the ball, they kind of get stymied. So 0:09:09.200 --> 0:09:13.319 what do you make of Fitzpatrick's game in Pittsburgh. Well, 0:09:13.360 --> 0:09:17.400 I thought that his Saturday or Sunday performance against Pittsburgh 0:09:17.840 --> 0:09:21.960 was a winning performance and um, other than the Buffalo game, 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:24.480 it was his second best performance of the season. And 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:27.559 if he would have had those type of performances throughout 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:30.320 the season every game, they would not be one and four, 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:32.880 they would be more like three and two. And so 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:35.880 that's the type of play that that Ryan has to 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:39.160 expect from himself weekend and week out. Doesn't have to 0:09:39.160 --> 0:09:44.280 be gaudy numbers, but it can't be disastrous numbers either, 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:48.880 And so that was a consistent efficient performance. I think 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:51.560 where the Jets steming themselves that I don't think the 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:54.640 Steelers stimmy then the Jets at all. I think Jets 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:59.720 stimy themselves. Drop balls a misread here there. Um, you know, 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:03.280 really in crucial situations on third down where drives would 0:10:03.280 --> 0:10:06.439 stay alive, keep the Steelers offense off the field. When 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:08.880 you've got an offense like Ben Roethlisberger and the Steelers, 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:10.440 you have to keep them off the field. That's the 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:14.760 best defense against that. And those are some critical situations, 0:10:14.880 --> 0:10:17.440 especially in the second half, where the Jets offense did 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:20.360 not do that. Even if you don't get points, you 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:22.679 you you keep the Steelers off the field, and they 0:10:22.679 --> 0:10:24.880 did not do that, and so they snimming themselves. I 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:28.360 did not see a game where the Steelers just really 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:30.840 took it to the Jets. From a defensive standpoint, I 0:10:30.840 --> 0:10:33.360 feel like the Jets had a good game plan. They 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:38.000 executed it for the most part in a B type 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:40.560 level where the couple of plays here and there could 0:10:40.559 --> 0:10:43.719 have put put them in the A minus uh category 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:45.760 to give themselves a better chance to win. All right, 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:48.400 let's go to Twitter rapid fire here with Jet Punnington 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:51.400 on the e A podcast. This comes from Sean. It 0:10:51.559 --> 0:10:55.440 was a monster Jets fan down in Australia, down under 0:10:55.720 --> 0:10:57.560 guys on both sides of the ball. What is the 0:10:57.600 --> 0:11:01.120 most important thing that needs to be cleaned up going 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:08.040 forward in two thousand and sixteen. Great question. Defensively, it 0:11:08.200 --> 0:11:11.800 is still the big play uh, eliminating the big play 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:14.760 that Steelers still had another big play on the Jets 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:17.800 um at the beginning of the game. And then offensively 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:20.640 it's actually creating a big play. We're not seeing any 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:24.040 chunk plays at all, whether it being the running game 0:11:24.160 --> 0:11:26.160 or the passing game, and what that does for an 0:11:26.200 --> 0:11:29.680 offense doesn't necessarily win you the game. It just gives 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:32.520 you some breathing room and changes field position, and it 0:11:32.640 --> 0:11:35.160 keeps it from having to be such an uphill battle 0:11:35.520 --> 0:11:37.920 with just four and five yard games all the time. 0:11:38.000 --> 0:11:40.640 So that's that's very important. So the big play on 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:44.719 both offense and defense, to me is something that's a 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:50.079 point of emphasis. Kevin writes in on Twitter, it appears 0:11:50.080 --> 0:11:53.920 that many players have regressed from last year. Why do 0:11:53.960 --> 0:11:58.840 you think that is? I don't know if I see 0:11:58.840 --> 0:12:04.320 it as regression, is just more lack of execution and production. 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:08.800 Um and uh. Sometimes that happens with the team because 0:12:08.840 --> 0:12:11.760 you have a successful team who kind of creaked up 0:12:11.800 --> 0:12:15.120 on teams the previous year. This year, there is no 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:18.160 creeping up on anybody. They know who you are. They 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:20.720 have a full year of film on you to see 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:23.200 who you are as a team, what you're coaching staff 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:27.120 is about. And so now your level of production, execution, 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:31.240 concentration has to be stepped up, and you can't just 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:35.000 count on the same things that happened for you the 0:12:35.040 --> 0:12:38.040 previous year aren't going to happen that same way. And 0:12:38.080 --> 0:12:39.880 so there's no doubt in my mind that the jet 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:42.960 should be sitting here at three and two, not one 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:45.640 and four. If that's the case. And so I don't 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:49.679 see regression as much as I see just not executing 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:52.800 and doing what you're supposed to do, all right, so quickly. 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:55.320 When there was a lot of talk on about this 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:59.559 subject this week, and you know better than anybody, but 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:05.680 Asianist history, somebody asks on Twitter, what uh can you 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:09.160 review the four three and outs that gave Bulls confidence 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:11.400 to punt on fourth and two. A lot of people 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:15.000 talked about Coach's decision to punt there on fourth and two. 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:19.720 It's at that moment you're close to midfield. I'm sitting 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:21.800 there in the press box chat and you can call 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:23.559 me a homer if you want. I know who I'm 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:26.680 employed by. But I didn't have a problem with the 0:13:26.720 --> 0:13:31.079 decision because I'm thinking, you don't get it. It's fourth 0:13:31.120 --> 0:13:34.840 and along to the Steelers have been moving the ball 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:38.160 and you're at least giving up three You might give 0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:40.440 up a touchdown down there. I don't I don't know. 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:44.280 I thought, you know, you pin them back deep, maybe 0:13:44.280 --> 0:13:46.360 you get a good punt, great coverage. There was a 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:49.360 couple of times the Jets failed to actually pin the 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:53.280 Steelers back, and when they had some players down there 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:57.240 on Lockland outwards a couple of his booming kicks. So 0:13:57.720 --> 0:14:00.280 you play field position there, maybe you get the wall 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:03.040 back at the fifty relatively quickly. I know a lot 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:05.760 of people revisionist history, they're talking about the fourth and 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:09.040 two a lot this week. Yeah, and I think it 0:14:09.320 --> 0:14:11.040 was that the fourth and two with the at the 0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:13.720 eleven minute mark or at the seven minute mark. It 0:14:13.840 --> 0:14:16.679 was at about the seven minute I believe you have 0:14:16.800 --> 0:14:20.040 the seven minute mark. Uh, and that's and I don't know, 0:14:20.280 --> 0:14:22.240 I don't even know if that was more like the 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:25.160 thirty five is was it not? So that was a 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:27.800 tough situation where you know, if it's more on the 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:30.320 fifty or the forty five going in, I could certainly 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:33.120 see that, But on the thirty five is forty is 0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:35.800 a couple of yards and that they've got three more 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:40.080 points on you without having to do anything offensively, much 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:43.480 less with the big, big play capability that they already have. 0:14:44.560 --> 0:14:48.840 Um So that what I certainly thought about that as 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:51.200 I was watching the game, would this be a situation 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:54.000 where you could go for it there? Uh? If it 0:14:54.080 --> 0:14:56.440 was a little bit closer. I think they certainly would 0:14:56.520 --> 0:15:00.240 have two is much different than inside of yards. There's 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:03.600 no question about that, um. But but I agree with 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:07.920 it being a thirteen game, two scores and you win, 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:11.560 and so uh within seven minutes, you should get the 0:15:11.560 --> 0:15:13.560 ball back by five. You can go down and kick 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:16.440 field goal stuffing and then either have a touchdown drive 0:15:16.600 --> 0:15:19.440 or vice versa on that with a field goal drop. 0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:24.600 So I did not completely disagree with that call at all, 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:27.200 but I could certainly see where the thought could cross 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:30.160 your mind about going for it on fourth. I think 0:15:30.200 --> 0:15:32.440 it's one of those one tough spots. I think if 0:15:32.440 --> 0:15:35.800 it's fourth and one, there's no doubt he sends his 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:38.160 jumbo package on the field. You try to get the 0:15:38.160 --> 0:15:42.280 one yard and you keep that driving uh moving. But 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:46.360 at fourth and two, and that's up to the coach, 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:49.840 and he noticed his ball club. You know, you know 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:52.280 the way it is when you're one of four, So 0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:56.240 everybody's gonna come at you. I'm telling you, I'm sitting 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:59.680 there at the price box during the game, and I 0:15:59.760 --> 0:16:03.960 thought out, okay, you point away, you get a three 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:06.600 and out, you get good field positioned and go from there. 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:09.160 But you know it didn't work out. Didn't work out 0:16:09.200 --> 0:16:11.240 for the Jets. Bottom line, they didn't make enough plays. 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:14.920 And as you mentioned, this team doesn't think they're that 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:18.920 far away. Uh, that's a fourteen thirteen game and the 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:21.840 third quarter it's a seventeen thirteen game. At the beginning 0:16:21.880 --> 0:16:24.000 of the fourth quarter. They just have to find a 0:16:24.000 --> 0:16:27.040 way to make a couple of key plays and that 0:16:27.160 --> 0:16:30.160 will get them over the hump. So, Jets are one 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:33.880 and four. You've started a couple of times one and 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:38.800 four and actually made the postseason, uh, with two different teams, 0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:41.240 actually with the Jets in two thousand two, and I 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:45.240 believe with the Miami Dolphins as well. Here's some similarities 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:48.360 for you. The Jets actually started the two thousand two 0:16:48.400 --> 0:16:52.680 seasons in Buffalo, beating the Bills in Week one by 0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:55.880 a thirty seven thirty one score. The Jets only win 0:16:56.040 --> 0:17:00.080 so far this season is in Week two back and 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:05.160 Week two at Buffalo by a thirty seven score. Uh. 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:08.480 Your memories a two thousand and two and what goes 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:12.680 on inside a locker room when you're frustrated, you're losing 0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:17.520 and it's early in the season. Well, here, here's exactly 0:17:17.640 --> 0:17:19.880 what went on in our locker room. At the time 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:23.760 we were one and four. People were complaining about play calling, 0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:26.639 whether it be inside the building or on the team, 0:17:26.760 --> 0:17:33.680 or outside the building, pointing fingers, disgruntled, frustrated, disappointed, which 0:17:33.680 --> 0:17:38.240 is all understandable. But what changed our team was we 0:17:38.359 --> 0:17:43.040 changed our belief system and we made a decision to say, look, 0:17:43.119 --> 0:17:46.320 coaches aren't trying to lose if their livelihood. They're trying 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:48.600 to put us in the best positions to be successful. 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:51.880 And if we don't believe in what we're doing, it 0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:56.360 does not matter who we're playing. We could have, they 0:17:56.359 --> 0:17:58.399 could have eight guys out there on the field, and 0:17:58.400 --> 0:18:00.639 if we're not believing in what we're only, we're not 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:05.920 going to execute. And so we changed our belief system. Uh, 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:08.600 we caught a little momentum by going to San Diego 0:18:08.800 --> 0:18:10.720 and beating them, and there was a six and one 0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:14.240 team coming off of the bye and we throttled them, 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:17.439 and from then on our belief system because it had changed, 0:18:18.119 --> 0:18:21.159 Then our mindset changed, and then the result changed, and 0:18:21.200 --> 0:18:25.160 as a matter of fact, the play calling got more conservative. Basically, 0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:27.920 all we did was handed to Curtis Martin or we 0:18:27.960 --> 0:18:30.760 threw it to Lavernest coals for the most part. Um 0:18:30.920 --> 0:18:33.000 it was more conservative than it was when we were 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:36.280 one and four and two and five. So it's about 0:18:36.320 --> 0:18:40.480 belief system. It's about um that synergy that you need 0:18:40.520 --> 0:18:43.520 to have as as human beings for getting the football 0:18:43.520 --> 0:18:46.560 players just as human beings and working together and not 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:49.320 the pointing fingers are saying, well, the defense didn't their 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:51.239 job in the offense didn't. It has nothing to do 0:18:51.320 --> 0:18:54.240 with that. It has to do with playing complimentary football. 0:18:54.400 --> 0:18:56.920 The offense needs to break and needs the ball back. 0:18:56.960 --> 0:18:58.600 The defense has to get the ball back. If the 0:18:58.640 --> 0:19:00.119 offense needs to stay on the field and get the 0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:03.399 defense brain defense, the offense needs to do that. The 0:19:03.480 --> 0:19:05.240 kicking game needs to step up and make a cup 0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:07.320 of plays. That's what needs to happen. That's that's why 0:19:07.359 --> 0:19:11.240 it's a team game, and that's that's the biggest challenge 0:19:11.280 --> 0:19:13.920 for a team that's wonderful is whether or not you're 0:19:13.920 --> 0:19:17.240 gonna change your belief system and and pull together and 0:19:17.320 --> 0:19:20.199 do everything you can uh to be successful. And that 0:19:20.240 --> 0:19:23.760 may require some sacrifices that may require certain players not 0:19:23.840 --> 0:19:26.439 playing as much or being asked to perform a different 0:19:26.480 --> 0:19:28.639 role that they're not used to. If you're willing to 0:19:28.680 --> 0:19:31.480 do that, then you can pull yourself out of the situation. 0:19:31.640 --> 0:19:35.119 The Jets fans who are of our age, Chad what 0:19:36.200 --> 0:19:40.439 have a retort then say, yeah, but you had boy Wonder, 0:19:40.560 --> 0:19:43.359 you had Punnington and reserved there. He came in against 0:19:43.480 --> 0:19:47.320 Jacksonville and then makes the start the following week against 0:19:47.440 --> 0:19:50.400 Kansas City. And even though you lost that ball game 0:19:50.760 --> 0:19:55.320 against Kansas City, Uh, against Kansas City, you showed something 0:19:55.400 --> 0:19:59.680 there and the offenses started moving. Where is the Jets 0:20:00.440 --> 0:20:06.280 The current team has their current pieces. Where Todd Bowls 0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:09.080 is said, Ryan Fitzpatrick gives us the best chance to 0:20:09.080 --> 0:20:13.760 win right now? Well, and I agree with Coach Bowls. 0:20:13.800 --> 0:20:15.399 I think that he does. And I think that we 0:20:15.480 --> 0:20:18.960 did see some improvement. We saw a more efficient, consistent 0:20:19.040 --> 0:20:22.360 quarterback Sunday against the Steelers. Didn't get the result that's 0:20:22.359 --> 0:20:25.240 the Jets wanted from a wind standpoint, but you saw 0:20:25.320 --> 0:20:27.760 more consistent play. And I think I think if that 0:20:27.840 --> 0:20:31.199 play continues from the quarterback position, and then all the 0:20:31.240 --> 0:20:34.760 other offensive parts chip in and do their part, then 0:20:34.800 --> 0:20:37.560 they can win games. You've got an Arizona team that's 0:20:37.640 --> 0:20:39.760 this types of plan. Arizona go off the West Coast. 0:20:40.200 --> 0:20:43.160 But the Jets can beat Arizona. You have a Baltimore 0:20:43.200 --> 0:20:45.880 Ravens team Esster doing well, that's a home they can 0:20:45.920 --> 0:20:49.720 beat the Baltimore Ravens. There haven't changed themselves in offensive coordinators, 0:20:49.720 --> 0:20:53.080 so uh, there's some change going on there. So um, 0:20:53.720 --> 0:20:56.200 there's no doubt that this team is capable of getting 0:20:56.240 --> 0:20:59.719 back to the foreum foremark by the midpoint of the season. 0:21:00.160 --> 0:21:02.280 And guess where they were last year at the midpoint 0:21:02.280 --> 0:21:04.600 of the season. They were four and four even when 0:21:04.600 --> 0:21:07.880 they started three and one. So they can reverse their 0:21:07.920 --> 0:21:11.040 fortune here and uh and and really get back into 0:21:11.080 --> 0:21:14.320 the hunt. But it certainly starts with their mindset and 0:21:14.400 --> 0:21:16.560 the and their belief system. What are your memories of 0:21:16.840 --> 0:21:22.600 herm back at Hofstruff at all? We you beg call 0:21:22.880 --> 0:21:25.639 saying we play to win the game when he was 0:21:25.720 --> 0:21:29.040 asked multiple times in his press conference basically, Hey, what 0:21:29.040 --> 0:21:31.359 do you guys have to play for? When they wrote 0:21:31.400 --> 0:21:34.240 you all off in two thousand two? Did you pay 0:21:34.320 --> 0:21:36.679 too much attention to that as a player? Did go 0:21:36.800 --> 0:21:39.840 home and see the clip on Sports Center? Because in 0:21:39.920 --> 0:21:44.400 today's today's day and age, we'd see that on Twitter immediately, 0:21:44.560 --> 0:21:47.240 we'd see it on Instagram, it would it would be 0:21:47.280 --> 0:21:49.720 out there within five seconds. But that was a different 0:21:49.720 --> 0:21:54.119 world back then in two thousand two. Well, at first, 0:21:54.000 --> 0:21:57.720 at first I think we all cuckled um coach Edwards 0:21:57.560 --> 0:22:01.880 and his demeanor and and just you know, his response. 0:22:02.400 --> 0:22:04.480 But then I think it also sent a message to 0:22:04.600 --> 0:22:08.640 us that hey, it's not about just evaluating players, it's 0:22:08.680 --> 0:22:11.399 not about just giving up on the season, because the 0:22:11.440 --> 0:22:15.480