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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome to another episode of.

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Speaker 2: I Saw What You Did.

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Speaker 1: My name is Millie to Jericho, I'm Danielle Henderson, and

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Speaker 1: yet again it's your girls.

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Speaker 3: We're back with another episode about film. How are you?

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Speaker 2: How are you? Oh? My god, how are you? I'm okay.

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Speaker 4: I just spent my first night in my house. Yes,

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Speaker 4: and none of my stuff is here. It'll take about

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Speaker 4: a week for my stuff to get here. So I

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Speaker 4: have an air mattress that I mailed myself and some pillows.

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Speaker 4: And let me tell you that first night was a doozy.

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Speaker 1: Ooh okay, because let's just say this too. You're in

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Speaker 1: a new time zone so that you know, will affect

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Speaker 1: the bio orrhythms, and you're in a new house, no furniture.

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Speaker 4: I was exhausted when I got here, and I knew

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Speaker 4: that was part of what happened last night, Like I

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Speaker 4: was exhausted. But Carrot, let me just give the first

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Speaker 4: update is that Carrot is fine. He is already stomping

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Speaker 4: around this place like he's lived here his whole freakin' life.

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Speaker 2: And for a New York City.

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Speaker 4: Trash cat who's only lived in like confinement in small

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Speaker 4: space he's doing great.

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Speaker 2: He's doing great. I am not. I was not. He

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Speaker 2: was doing much better than I was last night. Let's

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Speaker 2: just say so.

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Speaker 4: I get here and it was late when I got here,

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Speaker 4: like it was already nighttime, and you know, I brought

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Speaker 4: all my boxes and luggage inside, and my house had

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Speaker 4: kind of it sat empty for like three months basically,

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Speaker 4: so the owners, the previous owners moved out about three

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Speaker 4: months ago and then you know, it took some time

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Speaker 4: for me to close and.

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Speaker 2: And then I moved in.

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Speaker 4: So it was clean like they, but I live in

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Speaker 4: the country, so there were bugs everywhere. It was like everywhere,

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Speaker 4: every single toilet was like taken over by daddy long legs.

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Speaker 2: I didn't want to pee, like I don't want to

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Speaker 2: deal with this.

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Speaker 4: I had a real cricket inside my house, Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 2: Like I heard the.

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Speaker 4: Crickets outside and I'm like, oh, how lovely. Then I

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Speaker 4: heard one inside and I was like, fuck this shit right.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't find it, Yeah, raid could not find it.

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Speaker 4: But when I walked in, the oven was beeping and

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Speaker 4: seven F seven F seven, And I was like, I've

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Speaker 4: never seen that on anything that wasn't a computer.

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Speaker 2: So I didn't know what to do. So I was

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Speaker 4: The sound went off, and then fifteen minutes later it

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Speaker 2: And it did that for like an hour straight.

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Speaker 4: So finally I called my friend Sarah, who lives down

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Speaker 4: the road, and I was like, I just got here.

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Speaker 4: I'm exhausted, I'm hungry, I have to blow up my bed,

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Speaker 4: and there's this beeping in my house. I said, I

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Speaker 4: and maybe tomorrow I'll just burn this house to the ground,

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Speaker 4: like I was so sorry. Oh no, like, maybe I'll

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Speaker 4: just burn it own of the ground.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: And she came over because she's a fucking champion. So,

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Speaker 4: Sarah Jackson, you're a hero for many She will show

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Speaker 4: up again in this in this, in this story. And

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Speaker 4: I was also terrified because and I have not revealed

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Speaker 2: Wow. And so I was convinced.

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Speaker 4: I just convinced myself that somebody was in here with

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Speaker 4: and I'm like, so when Sarah came over, she helped

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Speaker 2: We just turned the oven off, like I just slipped

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Speaker 4: Then I'm like, you have to walk through this house

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Speaker 4: with me because I'm gonna get killed. And She's like,

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Speaker 2: Like get ready, bitch, this is your white You do

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Speaker 4: And so so I had her go around with me

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Speaker 1: I'm so happy that Sarah's in your life to not

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Speaker 1: I don't know, it looks like you're fucking crazy girl.

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Speaker 3: Of a noise, you know. She was.

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Speaker 2: She was with you, on the same page with you.

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Speaker 4: So she was like, let's put our keys in between

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Speaker 2: I'm cool.

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Speaker 4: And it was around like eight o'clock when she left,

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Speaker 4: you know, and she's like, you know what you just need.

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Speaker 4: She's a producer, by the way, she's like she does.

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Speaker 4: do you need to feel comfortable tonight? And I was like,

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Speaker 4: I need like just little thing like Clorox wipes. And

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Speaker 4: she's like, go to Target. They close at ten. You

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Speaker 4: can get there twenty minute. There's the front. The nearest

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Speaker 4: Target is thirty minutes away. So she's like, you'll have

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Speaker 2: So I did. So I left when she left, and

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Speaker 4: That, I did the biggest supermarket sweep of Target of

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Speaker 4: all time, I was like I grabbed everything. I'm like

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Speaker 4: Clorox wipes, a lamb. Yeah, I need some booty shorts.

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Speaker 4: I bought a T shirt that just says best Grandpa

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Speaker 4: ever on it. No reason, no reason, just supermarket sweeping

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Speaker 4: it around the fucking Target Life Boulbs. Like my cart

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Speaker 4: was a goddamn mess. I bought a jug of water.

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Speaker 4: I just like got some little things. I bought a

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Speaker 4: I'm like, I need some sounds in here and like

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Speaker 4: let people know I'm here. Who what people?

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Speaker 2: All it takes is one escaped criminal, exactly exactly, just one,

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Speaker 2: That's what I've in my head. So I went to Target,

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Speaker 4: My brother called and he was like, hey, look you

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Speaker 2: It was raining. There was like a nice thunderstorm last night,

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Speaker 2: So and he lives thirty minutes away, but he did.

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Speaker 4: Freaking out because I was trying to go to sleep,

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Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know why I did this.

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Speaker 4: But he helped calm me down. He asked me if

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Speaker 4: gonna get murdered. He's like, it's cool, like let's walk

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Speaker 2: Then we went out and he was just checking all

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Speaker 2: Fuck this bird. I'm going to bed.

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Speaker 1: This mom spaghetti crested will figure out how to get

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Speaker 4: This gold in the kaye piper knows what's up. I

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Speaker 4: not looking at it close enough. It could be a bat.

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Speaker 4: Like bats are everywhere here. Yeah, it's not getting braebies tonight. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: So I'm like, let's just close the door, pretend that's

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Speaker 2: And he did. He closed it. He was laughing at

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Speaker 4: He found the cricket. Yeah, he found the cricket. Let

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Speaker 4: it out like he captured it in a little napkin.

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Speaker 4: And then I got to go to sleep. But I

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Speaker 4: was fucking exhausted. I had no internet. I had power,

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Speaker 4: but I have no internet. I had nothing, and I

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Speaker 2: Every corner I look in him like something needs to

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Speaker 2: be done. This is overwhelming. But the funniest part of

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Speaker 2: the day was I was getting ready to go to bed.

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Speaker 4: And Carrot kind of hopped up on the air mattress

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Speaker 4: His face was covered in dust, like he would just

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Speaker 4: go and look in corners, and he had like dust

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Speaker 4: hanging from his whiskers, like he does not give a fuck.

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Speaker 2: So he made me laugh a lot yesterday.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I got through the night and I woke

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Speaker 4: up and it was all like, you know, spring breezes

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Speaker 4: and crickets and birds chirping. I got to meet my gopher.

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Speaker 4: I have a gopher the size of a small dog.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, he.

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Speaker 4: But it's been nice, Like today was nice. I have

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Speaker 3: Of course.

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Speaker 2: Going outside, yeah, and.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I mean that barn, that barn is haunted.

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Speaker 4: I'm definitely finding bones in there.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, You're gonna have to get I mean, you

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Speaker 1: got to take some of that woo woo from California,

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Speaker 3: You need to like sage it, do some crystal work.

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Speaker 1: You gotta get somebody in there to like, you know,

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Speaker 2: What I need is a.

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Speaker 4: Book in the language I don't understand, and and Dowd.

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Speaker 4: If anyone knows and Dowd, can you send her to

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Speaker 4: my house immediately.

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Speaker 2: With a candle.

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Speaker 3: And fucking hated it. And now that he's back.

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Speaker 1: In New York, he's like, yes, I'm back, baby, I'm back.

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Speaker 2: Like completely. He tried to go out on the porch,

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Speaker 3: I left, I don't think.

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Speaker 4: So I found out that my vet was an anti vaxer. Basically,

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Speaker 4: Because I yeah, because I went to buy a ticket,

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Speaker 4: they have to have all their vaccinations up to date.

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Speaker 2: Rabi's especially. So I sent my vet.

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Speaker 4: An email and this is the same vet ps that

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Speaker 4: she's she tried to get me. She's she's very vegan

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Speaker 4: to put.

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Speaker 2: Carrot on a yam's diet. She's like, he shouldn't be

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Speaker 4: He should be eating like yams and carrots, and Carrot

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Speaker 4: took one look at me and he's like, if you

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Speaker 4: put me, if you put a yam in front of

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Speaker 4: my face, I am calling the ASPCA.

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Speaker 2: Like wait wait.

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Speaker 1: So she's just like, what isn't he just eat the

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Speaker 3: Is that really a thing?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? She's like he cats don't have to eat meat,

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, I think biology evolution has something to

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Speaker 5: I think they're supposed to only eat meat, right, am, No,

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Speaker 5: like protein heavy diets, and she's like, you can get

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Speaker 2: He doesn't have any say in this. And he's seriously

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Speaker 4: That, and he looked at me like uh uh oh,

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Speaker 4: my trust me, buddy, We're good. We're not doing it.

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Speaker 4: So this is that same that. So I sent her

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Speaker 4: an email and I'm like, hey, I'm flying with Carrot

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Speaker 2: And she was like yeah, no problem.

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Speaker 4: They usually require vaccinations before you fly, though, and I said, no,

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Speaker 4: you know, they kind of want they want him to

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Speaker 2: He just saw her for his fucking IV drip in.

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Speaker 1: Like February, his vander Pump rules drip.

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Speaker 2: I should fucking trip. And he had his annual checkup

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Speaker 2: like he's had his he's had everything he needs this year.

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Speaker 2: And then she wrote back and said.

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Speaker 4: Well, I haven't since he's an indoor cat and he's healthy,

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Speaker 4: I haven't been giving him his rabies vaccination, and she

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Speaker 4: listed like two other things and she's like, but I

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Speaker 4: if it's not within thirty days or more of flying,

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Speaker 4: he can't get on the plane with me. So even

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Speaker 4: if you do it Monday, it's not gonna work.

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Speaker 2: Right, And she was like, that's okay. You can just

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, I have got to get out of LA.

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Speaker 2: What is happening?

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Speaker 1: You can just completely alter your plans. Yeah, because I

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Speaker 4: Yes, And I'm like, so, let me get this straight.

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Speaker 4: You're an anti vaxxer.

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Speaker 2: You didn't tell me that my cat's been walking around

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Speaker 4: It was truly one of the more la experiences I'd had,

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Speaker 4: because I'm like, you're seriously telling me to feed my

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Speaker 4: cat yams, not get him vaccinated, and basically just make

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Speaker 2: Keep him safe.

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Speaker 4: Like, I can't fly with a cat that I'm chanting over.

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Speaker 4: He needs actual medication to get on airlines.

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Speaker 3: But she didn't even want to get an airline.

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Speaker 1: She wanted you to like be like, no, let me

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Speaker 3: Days out of my life to drive my cat across

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Speaker 2: Also, it's like, if I could have done that, I

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Speaker 4: He is so much better six hours in a plane

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Speaker 4: I know this about my cat. That's why I didn't

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Speaker 2: I was freaking out.

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Speaker 4: I was on the phone till like three o'clock in

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Speaker 4: the morning with you, and I'm like, I don't know

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Speaker 2: To do, Like you cannot bring this cat with you

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Speaker 2: and I flew and they don't care.

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Speaker 1: They're like, that's fine, girl, we don't care if he's

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Speaker 2: Bring him on.

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Speaker 4: Exactly. They're like, you could bring on ducks and parrots.

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Speaker 4: And I'm like, maybe I shouldn't be on this fucking

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Speaker 3: We have an all parrot flight actually.

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Speaker 4: But they actually, but they had a good point where

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Speaker 1: Time, right, right, fucking bold of this vet, this la

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Speaker 3: So all they made your life more complicated, which sucks.

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Speaker 2: So and then I'm looking at him and I'm like,

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Speaker 4: We're moving to a place where I want you to

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Speaker 4: be protected against rabies, because if he gets out here,

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Speaker 4: he's gonna.

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Speaker 2: Be in the woods.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 4: So the first thing I'm doing next week is taking

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Speaker 2: He hasn't he.

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Speaker 4: Hasn't had his vaccination since we left New York a

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Speaker 1: Okay, apparently action items for you, getting shots for carrot,

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Speaker 1: getting a dog, getting a granny shotgun, getting getting your

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Speaker 1: and yeah, you're after a while, it's going to feel

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Speaker 1: so good to be in this beautiful area of the world.

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Speaker 1: You have an incredible house with so much room, so

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Speaker 3: I'm so jealous, and I'm also so.

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Speaker 1: Happy for you because it is going to be great.

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Speaker 1: You just got to get over this like scary, you know,

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Speaker 1: a twenty four movie.

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Speaker 3: But eventually you will. You will be just fine.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 6: I know.

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Speaker 4: I'm having My brother is coming over with his partner.

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Speaker 4: They're going to help me clean this weekend, do some

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Speaker 4: getting rid of all the daddy long legs around these

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Speaker 4: should I go out in my own yard and piss

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Speaker 4: like I don't want to be in my own toilets

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Speaker 4: because they're covered in spider.

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Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, I love this brother coming over

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Speaker 1: and helping you out.

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Speaker 3: It's very sweet he made. It's making us love him

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Speaker 3: even more than we already do.

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Speaker 4: He's truly the best. And he checked in on me

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Speaker 4: sure you're cool. And one of his friends lives down

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00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:25,439
Speaker 4: the street and he's like, you can just call, you know,

441
00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,879
Speaker 4: my friend, if you're really struggling, or if it's like

442
00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:29,560
Speaker 4: late at night you don't want me to come visit

443
00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:30,040
Speaker 4: or whatever.

444
00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:31,840
Speaker 2: He's like, just call him. He's right down the street.

445
00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:33,040
Speaker 2: And I went to high school with that guy, so

446
00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:36,080
Speaker 2: I knew him too. But yeah, yeah, he's a total sweetheart.

447
00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,959
Speaker 2: And he said something that also made me cry on

448
00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,760
Speaker 2: his way out, but I was crying for happy reasons

449
00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:45,440
Speaker 2: instead of fear based reasons, because he just said, you're

450
00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:49,360
Speaker 2: not alone anymore. You've got family here, And I was like, oh, yeah,

451
00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,480
Speaker 2: that's why I moved back. I know, that's the whole thing.

452
00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,480
Speaker 2: I think you need to put his name in that.

453
00:19:55,440 --> 00:20:00,560
Speaker 1: Will give him something, give him this cricket house, something

454
00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:01,640
Speaker 1: he deserves it.

455
00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:03,719
Speaker 2: He's in the will, he's getting get bumped up.

456
00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna take from one of the kids that

457
00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:08,680
Speaker 4: I left money too, because they haven't done anything yet,

458
00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,000
Speaker 4: they haven't proven anything, they're just babies.

459
00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,720
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna take ten percent and give it to him. Yeah.

460
00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,840
Speaker 1: Karen now has an eyebrow raised. He's like, excuse me,

461
00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:18,040
Speaker 1: now he is back?

462
00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,400
Speaker 2: Oh exactly what is this?

463
00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,879
Speaker 1: This is like an episode of like Knot's Landing or something.

464
00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:24,160
Speaker 1: What is going on right now?

465
00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:26,080
Speaker 2: Sue Ellen again?

466
00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,720
Speaker 4: But he's back, he's in the will's he's he's got

467
00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:32,600
Speaker 4: carrot already.

468
00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,639
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna give him a raise and carrot. You know,

469
00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,800
Speaker 2: he will benefit. Oh man, should any of the ghosts

470
00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:40,160
Speaker 2: in this house decide to murder me.

471
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,080
Speaker 3: Well, it sounds very charming.

472
00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,320
Speaker 1: I really hope there aren't any ghosts, and I really

473
00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:45,520
Speaker 1: hope there are not any murderers.

474
00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:46,960
Speaker 3: But this is all very charming to me.

475
00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:50,080
Speaker 1: So I'm I think you've made a great decision, and

476
00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:51,919
Speaker 1: I'm so proud of you, so happy for you.

477
00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,080
Speaker 2: Thank you, and come stay.

478
00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,840
Speaker 4: I want you to, But you could genuinely move in

479
00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,520
Speaker 4: here and I'd never see you.

480
00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:03,120
Speaker 2: Just come visit and i'd be like, oh you're still here.

481
00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,320
Speaker 3: Cool, Listen, you gott a shed, I'll live in the shed.

482
00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,200
Speaker 4: I'll put you out in the bar with Chauncey. You

483
00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 4: guys are a fucking blast. Sophie and Chauncey are the

484
00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:11,640
Speaker 4: same size.

485
00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,960
Speaker 3: Chauncey and me, we can get along just fine.

486
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:20,840
Speaker 1: Okay, I will be your footloose kid that comes in

487
00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:22,560
Speaker 1: has to live with the gopher.

488
00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,240
Speaker 2: Yes, like city.

489
00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm cool with that.

490
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,200
Speaker 4: The first thing I am gonna do here as a resident, though,

491
00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:36,280
Speaker 4: is band dancing. Dude, get ready, kids, I'm banning dancing

492
00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 4: and rock and roll music, but not crumping because it's awesome.

493
00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 2: Apparently, when you.

494
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:44,680
Speaker 4: Band dancing, you just know how to crump, so it'll

495
00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 4: be to their benefit.

496
00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:49,280
Speaker 2: There'll be better dancers than they ever were before. Yeah, exactly, No,

497
00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 2: this is such a good move for you.

498
00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,200
Speaker 4: Speaking of crumping, this is not a good segue. Oh

499
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:00,720
Speaker 4: you gonna talk about our the theme?

500
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:01,280
Speaker 3: Of course?

501
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 1: I would love to tell them what it is. Well,

502
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,119
Speaker 1: so let's get into this theme for this week now.

503
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,120
Speaker 1: A lot of people were kind of, you know, wondering

504
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:13,080
Speaker 1: what's the theme going.

505
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 3: To be called? Because they like the movies.

506
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, can't say I blame them, but now they want

507
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,720
Speaker 1: to know what the theme actually is. There was a

508
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,639
Speaker 1: lot of good guesses, but there's only one, as you know,

509
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 1: And for this week, our theme is called.

510
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:34,200
Speaker 2: Looks like a pump, feels like a sneaker. Okay, all right,

511
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 2: Eighties kids know. Eighties kids already know exactly.

512
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 1: We're going to have to explain what this is because

513
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,159
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people who weren't around in the

514
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,920
Speaker 1: eighties to know what this even means.

515
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 3: So why don't we just talk about that first and foremost?

516
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:50,360
Speaker 2: Well, first and foremost.

517
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 4: This is a phrase that comes directly from the jingle

518
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:57,359
Speaker 4: of an old Easy Spirit commercial. So there was an

519
00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 4: Easy Spirit commercial in the eighties where it showed the legs,

520
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 4: not even the faces or torso, the legs of women

521
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:10,719
Speaker 4: in shorts playing basketball in high heels, and Easy Spirit

522
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 4: maintained that their high heels felt so comfortable that it

523
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 4: felt like a sneaker when you were wearing.

524
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 2: Them, move like a sneaker, moods like a sneaker. Shock proof.

525
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:27,640
Speaker 2: That's right.

526
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of younger people on this

527
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,680
Speaker 1: that listen to this podcast wouldn't even know Easy Spirit

528
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 1: because that's a brand that you grow into, Like you're

529
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 1: not wearing Easy Spirits until maybe your thirties.

530
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 2: Maybe that's an early girl, you know. You know, Easy

531
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:43,920
Speaker 2: Spirits were for the fifty plus set.

532
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 3: That's true.

533
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 1: But I gotta tell you if they start, like, over

534
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 1: the years, they have modernized a lot, so it's not

535
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 1: outside of the realm of possibility that you might find

536
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 1: a cute shoe and be like, oh, it's an Easy

537
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 1: Spirit shoe, which definitely means it's for older ladies.

538
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:02,119
Speaker 3: It's orthopedic. That's my jam.

539
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 1: But I understand if you're like twenty four, you're like,

540
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 1: I'm not rocking Easy Spirits.

541
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,120
Speaker 2: I'm too young, Okay, I need the art support exactly.

542
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,360
Speaker 4: I work converse for too many years and I need

543
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 4: the art support exactly.

544
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 1: I'm not going to front. I think I always wanted

545
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 1: Easy Spirits. I think I was busted out of the

546
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 1: womb wanting to wear comfortable shoes like this. But back

547
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,159
Speaker 1: in the eighties, it was this thing where like, you know,

548
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:25,959
Speaker 1: I mean, I think we're going to get into this

549
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 1: a little bit more with the movies, but essentially, you know,

550
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 1: there's a lot of women in the eighties that were

551
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 1: kind of going into the workforce, okay, And so that

552
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 1: invariably meant that they were having to wear like high

553
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,880
Speaker 1: heels and you know, sort of like business shoes, business attire.

554
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 1: And the vibe of the Easy Spirit commercial and the

555
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 1: brand in the eighties was that they were making like

556
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 1: ugly ass pumps for the business ladies. And guess what,

557
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 1: you could wear it like all day. You could play

558
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,919
Speaker 1: basketball in them and it would be fucking great. And

559
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 1: there was like a lot of products that were being

560
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 1: made for women around this time. It's kind of like,

561
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 1: do you remember the eighteen hour bra?

562
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 6: Great Ghost deserve the eighteen hour bra from of course, yes,

563
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 6: there was plaateext the eighteen hour bra, and it was

564
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 6: basically like a bra that was comfortable.

565
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,679
Speaker 1: Enough for you so you could wear it like for

566
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 1: eighteen hours straight and never want to take it off.

567
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 4: Which you know what I got to say, I haven't

568
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,640
Speaker 4: met a bra that I've never wanted to take off

569
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 4: of me. I don't care how comfortable a broad is,

570
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,719
Speaker 4: Get it off my body as soon as possible.

571
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 3: Though, joke.

572
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 1: Even like those like bra letts that they have, we've

573
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 1: talked about the broad let the scam.

574
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 3: Jee even that I'm like, no, this has got to

575
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 3: go off at a certain point.

576
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:44,880
Speaker 1: But like that was the thing was that they were

577
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,679
Speaker 1: trying to say, like, hey ladies, we know you're you know,

578
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 1: busy working, you know, power suits, you were coming home

579
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 1: from the office, you're putting dinner on the table, or

580
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 1: maybe you're like working and then you know, changing in

581
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: your office and going for a night on the town.

582
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 1: So here's it's like a shoe that will do all

583
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 1: these things. Here's a bra that will do all these things.

584
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 4: You know, like you're commuting back and forth, so you

585
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 4: don't want to get on the Staten Island ferry and

586
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 4: your pumps.

587
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 2: You want to get on in your sneaker so you

588
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 2: can fight that crowd.

589
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I got lots to say about that, as

590
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 3: you know.

591
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,360
Speaker 1: But also I think this theme for you and I

592
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,199
Speaker 1: and I don't want to entirely speak for you, So

593
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 1: pop it anytime you want.

594
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 3: If I get some of the details wrong.

595
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 2: You know, me, go for it.

596
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,479
Speaker 1: But you know, as a child, you know, obviously I

597
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: was like, you know, I sort of wanted to be

598
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 1: older than I actually was.

599
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 3: We know this.

600
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 1: I've talked about it many times, and I was always

601
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 1: fascinated with depictions of adult women. So when I when

602
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 1: I was growing up in the eighties, when I was

603
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 1: a child, I was obsessed with like women's entertainment for

604
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 1: like adult women.

605
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,479
Speaker 3: I watched a lot of Lifetime.

606
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 2: Yep, watch a lot of watch.

607
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 1: A lot of Attitudes with Linda Dano, lots of like, yeah,

608
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,719
Speaker 1: Golden Girls, so a lot of the door Orthy cuts,

609
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: the blanche cuts of jackets. You know. I was obsessed

610
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: with kind of like any depiction of like a woman

611
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: who was like on her own or working. You know,

612
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: it's just sort of like the whole power lady of

613
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 1: the eighties. And that's I think what we connected on.

614
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: I think we were both kind of obsessed with the

615
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 1: look of these business ladies, right, and the effect.

616
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 4: Of watching women go into the workforce at that point

617
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,120
Speaker 4: was important and cool to see. And it was kind

618
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 4: of like a blueprint almost because you know, before you

619
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 4: get you get your media literacy on, you just kind

620
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 4: of accept the things that are given to you as

621
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 4: that's the way it is.

622
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 2: And it was kind of cool to see that, like, oh, this.

623
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,479
Speaker 4: Is kind of the day to night look, or this

624
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 4: is how women are navigating this space of being in

625
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 4: these offices. It's almost like like, you know, teach me

626
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 4: how to be a woman. I think was at one

627
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 4: point a theme that we had tossed around for this.

628
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, it was very much like all of the

629
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:08,400
Speaker 1: little nuances of adult women, you know, in the workforce.

630
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 3: And it was exactly that.

631
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 1: It was basically like the day to night looks, so

632
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: the mirror that changed, the different settings that had like

633
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 1: office daytime, you know whatever, and it was like those

634
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,959
Speaker 1: types of things, like anything that had to do with

635
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 1: like hair products, perfume, col gone panty legs, pantyhose, you know,

636
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 1: just sort of these like accoutrement of like what adult

637
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: women had, and you know, and I'm like a young

638
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 1: person going like, oh my god, I really want an

639
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: easy spirit pump and a tope pantyhose, and then I

640
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 1: want to come home from my job and get into

641
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 1: a cowgone bath.

642
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 2: And eat eat a Stofer's French bread pizza.

643
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and drink crystal light.

644
00:28:56,160 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 2: And only porn cow in the glass. Your guy believing me.

645
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: I could talk about this all day and it's just

646
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: like this, this is kind of like an obsession of mine.

647
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 3: And I'm sure it was an obsession of yours too.

648
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 2: We just wanted to. We were like, let's pick two movies.

649
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: That's sort of like best explain what this is this fascination,

650
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

651
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 2: And we picked a couple of movies.

652
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 1: Let me tell you, we picked the most shoulder pattiest

653
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: of the mass brayingest the products alone.

654
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 3: I'm obsessed.

655
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: I literally have been waiting for weeks to talk about

656
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: these two movies. When I watched them again, I was

657
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: like overjoyed. It just this is just gonna be so

658
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: f good.

659
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:44,959
Speaker 2: Wasn't There?

660
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 4: Also there was a Day to Night I had a

661
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 4: Day to Night Barbie doll in the eighties, right around

662
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 4: the time this stuff was happening too, really, and she

663
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 4: had a pink outfit and I remember it so vividly.

664
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 4: It was a pink like double breasted blazer with a

665
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 4: white trip around the neck and a pink matching skirt

666
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 4: and her little pink matching heels, and then you took off.

667
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 2: The jacket and she was wearing like a.

668
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 4: Glitter camesol underneath, and then you turn the skirt inside

669
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 4: out and it was like a tool skirt. And my

670
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 4: grandma took one look at that doll, and you know,

671
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:20,479
Speaker 4: what she said, I don't have to say it. It

672
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 4: was not kind or politically correct, but she said, yeah,

673
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 4: that is a day to night look for sure.

674
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I fucking love it. I can't wait

675
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 2: to have a reverse little skirt and go out.

676
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: And oh, I could go on for hours about like

677
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 1: the dual function clothes. Like there was this brand that

678
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 1: I was obsessed with in the eighties called Multiples, and

679
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 1: it was basically this line of clothing where you would

680
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: be sold these like separate pieces and the pieces could

681
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: be like, oh, this could be either a tube top

682
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: or a tank dress or a skirt, or you could

683
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 1: put it over your neck.

684
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 2: As a scarf.

685
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 4: You know, look at this point, at this advanced age,

686
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 4: if I can wear it as a scarf, it has

687
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 4: no business being a skirt or a dress on this spot.

688
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 4: But I appreciate that initiative of like you could do

689
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 4: all of these things. You could wear it as a wristband,

690
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 4: you could wear it as a fucking tough cuff.

691
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you could wear it as a head wrap. Everything.

692
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 3: It was insane.

693
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: It was like this place in the mall and you

694
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: know it was like these different pieces. I mean, they

695
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 1: had this basically this dress thing that I bought that

696
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: could be a shirt or a dress or you know,

697
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, oh god. It was all about

698
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: like women are busy now because they have jobs, so

699
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: let's like make everything like real convenient for them, right.

700
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 4: I also loved this is also a moment where things

701
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 4: came built in, so it was like the like it

702
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 4: would look like you were wearing a sweater and a

703
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 4: button down shirt, but it was just the collar of

704
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 4: the shirt sewn into the top of a sweater.

705
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 2: Yes, I love that shit. But they're like, it looks

706
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 2: like you're wearing a full ass outfit, but you know

707
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 2: you're only wearing one tyem of clothing.

708
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there's a there's a professional photograph of me

709
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: right now where I'm wearing a little girl's dress that

710
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: looks like it has a tie, so it's like a

711
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: suit dress, but there's no tie.

712
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 2: It stops like right here.

713
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 1: It's just basically like, oh, look, she's wearing a tie

714
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: and a collared shirt underneath this dress, but then it

715
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: doesn't go further than the neck line.

716
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 4: I want to do a full gallery retrospective of your

717
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 4: childhood photos because you're fully a golden girl when you

718
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 4: were eight years old, and it is the best thing ever.

719
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: You have literally no idea. I was like talking to

720
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: my mom and like taking her task about it the

721
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: other day, and I was like, why did you trust me?

722
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: Like an old lady.

723
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 3: She's just like, what is the fashion? And then I

724
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 3: was like I look back at people other.

725
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: People's photos, I'm like, it kind of was the fashion, right,

726
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: it was the fashion. We all wanted to go to

727
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: the boardroom. It didn't matter how would we work even

728
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: if I was if I was eight years old, I

729
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: was ready for the boardroom.

730
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 3: Well, let's let's get into the movies, shall we.

731
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's your movie for this theme?

732
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I don't even know. This is insane.

733
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: I can't believe I'm finally talking about this movie on

734
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:15,959
Speaker 1: this podcast.

735
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 3: Well listen, folks, My movie for the.

736
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: Theme of looks like a pump Feels like a sneaker

737
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: is a movie from nineteen eighty eight. It was written

738
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: by Kevin Wade. It was directed by Mike Nichols, and

739
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: it's called Working Girl. I have a head for.

740
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 2: Business and for sinning.

741
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: Is there anything more yet.

742
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 2: That the Oh my godout that?

743
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: So I'm obviously chomping at the bit to really get

744
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: into this movie. But I just want to say first

745
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: and foremost, this film was directed by Mike Nichols, who

746
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: is one of the greats. He did many wonderful classic

747
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: films including Who's Afraid of Virginia Wolf and The Graduate.

748
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: He spent his early years in comedy when he was

749
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 1: a part of this comedy duo with the equally great

750
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: Elaine May, whom we've talked about before on this podcast.

751
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: And you know, he's kind of this like Broadway legend.

752
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: He directed like many many wonderful plays, And when it

753
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 1: comes down to it, there's a lot of great info

754
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: out there about him that is so much better than

755
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: anything that I can ever say right now. I mean,

756
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 1: there's multiple documentaries about him which are great. I think

757
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: I mentioned the writer Mark Harris when we did Memphis Bell.

758
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 1: He was the guy that wrote the book about Five

759
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: Came Back. But he just wrote a book about Mike

760
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 1: Nichols called Mike Nichols A Life.

761
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 2: So I got it?

762
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 3: Have you sarn it?

763
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 2: Yeah? I haven't heard it yet, but I got it. Yeah.

764
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 3: I got to get it too. I'm so ready to

765
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 3: start it.

766
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: I really want to know a lot more because apparently

767
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: he's had a fascinating life.

768
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 2: You should get it. We can do little book club

769
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 2: two person.

770
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:02,959
Speaker 3: Boo, that sounds good.

771
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe we'll all do a book club if you

772
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: guys want, you know.

773
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 3: To use like corporate parlance.

774
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: Let's offline this, but anyway, I just encourage you to

775
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,720
Speaker 1: look him up. If you don't know anything about Mike Nichols,

776
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: He's great. So let's talk about working girl, shall we.

777
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 2: Oh?

778
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:28,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, this movie stars Melanie Griffith, Harrison Ford, and Sigourney Weaver.

779
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 2: Okay, all three great stars.

780
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: And you know, Harrison Ford and Sigourney Weaver were especially

781
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 1: huge at this moment in time. I mean they had

782
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 1: come off of stuff like Star Wars and Alien and

783
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: so it's kind of like they were just big, huge

784
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,720
Speaker 1: box office draws. And let me give you a basic

785
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 1: synopsis of this film. It may not be one sentence.

786
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 1: Actually it might be one sentence. Let me let me

787
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: try it.

788
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,240
Speaker 2: You do your thing, whatever it takes.

789
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: So this film is about a young female secretary from

790
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: Staten Island with big dreams who makes a bold attempt

791
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 1: to move up the corporate ladder by posing as an

792
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: executive after her boss breaks her leg in.

793
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 2: A ski accident perfection.

794
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 3: Okay, there you go.

795
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 1: Also, I want to put this movie into a little

796
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 1: historical context because we kind of talked about this at

797
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:25,240
Speaker 1: the beginning of the episode, which is that this movie

798
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: is in nineteen eighty eight. You know, in general, I

799
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 1: think we all know this by now. The eighties were

800
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 1: kind of notoriously about money and greed and yuppies and

801
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 1: big business.

802
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 3: And hey, big business. That's another movie from.

803
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 4: Wait Country, Sadie City, Sadie.

804
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 3: That is a whole other episode, folks.

805
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: But like we said, we have many women entering the

806
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 1: workforce at this moment in time and the white collar

807
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: workforce at that which I think we need to make

808
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: that distinction. It's it was basically kind of the first

809
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: real push to break up that sort of male boys

810
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: clubby thing that was prevalent in a lot of corporations

811
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: across many industries.

812
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 3: Right, and this movie is very much about all of that.

813
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: So right off the bat, in the opening credits of

814
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: this film, you hear this song that's called let the

815
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: River Run.

816
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm gonna stop you right here because I have

817
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 4: two notes, two starred notes about this film, and it's

818
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 4: basically all I want to talk about. I think the

819
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 4: song Let the River Run by Carly Simon is incredibly

820
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 4: emotional and it still makes me kind of tear up

821
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 4: every time I hear it in.

822
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 2: This film, and they use it throughout this movie.

823
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 4: They use a humming version, they use an alcapella version,

824
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 4: like they love this song.

825
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 2: I love this song.

826
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I want to say that at some

827
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: point I sang it in chorus when I was in school.

828
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 2: Is that course you.

829
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 4: Did, because you're probably in a senior's like golden like

830
00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 4: silver sneakers fifty five plus.

831
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 2: Quo when you were nine?

832
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 1: Of course the song I was at a barbershop quartet

833
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: at the assisted living facility that I lived in.

834
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 2: No, I think I.

835
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: Really actually sang this in course. I don't know that

836
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: for a fact, but it feels possible. But that's kind

837
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 1: of the way this song is. So it was written

838
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 1: and performed by Carly Simon, as Danielle just said, and

839
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:21,399
Speaker 1: it's this Yeah, you're right.

840
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 2: It's this epic, huge song with a choir and the.

841
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 1: Lyrics are let the River Run, Let all the Dreamers

842
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: Wake the Nation.

843
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm getting chills right now.

844
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: And I should note that Carly Simon actually wrote this

845
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 1: for the movie after reading the script. Right, So this

846
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: song is effectively about Tess, who is the character played

847
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:54,280
Speaker 1: by Melanie Griffith. And right off the bat, we're already

848
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: hearing about dreamers, right, maybe they're chasing the American.

849
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 2: Dream, right.

850
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: And alongside this opening music, you have Tess Melanie Griffith,

851
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: riding on the Staten Island Fairy alongside all these other commuters,

852
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 1: and there's these big, huge shots of New York City,

853
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,800
Speaker 1: these giant establishing shots with like the Statue of Liberty,

854
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: and she's on the ferry with her best friend, Cynthia,

855
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 1: who is played by the amazing Joan Cusack.

856
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 4: Okay, that is my second stard note, ah, because the

857
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 4: only thing that I will be remiss if we don't

858
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 4: talk about is the sheer magnitude of Cynthia's hair in

859
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 4: this movie. It is its own character, and I am

860
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 4: obsessed with this coole.

861
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 1: Look listen, I would have murdered someone for that volume,

862
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: for that hair volume at that age when I was

863
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: watching this film, as I think I was like ten

864
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 1: whenever this came out.

865
00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 3: If I would have been able to achieve.

866
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: That amount of volume, I would have been the most

867
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 1: popular girls school, and my life would have been completely different.

868
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 2: Let's just say that it would.

869
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 4: Have been in the parlance of our current times over

870
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 4: for you, ho's.

871
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 2: If I could have achieved.

872
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 4: I didn't know yet that my hair couldn't do that

873
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 4: at all, So the little wave and bang that I

874
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,919
Speaker 4: was able to achieve was monumental. But if I could

875
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 4: get the volume that jont Qusac had in this movie,

876
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 4: I would be Queen of England right now.

877
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 3: Oh my god.

878
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 4: I would have skipped right over the Megan markle of

879
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 4: it all and the Princess Diana. I would skipped right

880
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,439
Speaker 4: into bucking Buckingham Palace and been like, check this out.

881
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 2: I'm your queen now, Oh my god.

882
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: And just everything about these two at the beginning of

883
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:45,879
Speaker 1: Sin and Tess is big, big shoulder pads, big hair,

884
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 1: big jewelry, big eyeshadow looks, you know, and they're on

885
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: the ferry and you know it's Tessa's birthday.

886
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 3: So Sin holds up this like hostess.

887
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: Cupcake and sins happy birthdays to her best friend and

888
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: is asking her to make a wish. And then when

889
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: she does, you just get this sense that that test

890
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 1: is searching.

891
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 3: She's looking for something. She wants something more.

892
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: You know, she wants this bigger life than the one

893
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: that she has sadly, because you know.

894
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 3: Sin is her tie to her old life.

895
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,720
Speaker 1: And now she's like crossing, you know, crossing the water

896
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: into New York City and she's thinking what's out there

897
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: for me? Right?

898
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 2: And what I love about it too is it's just

899
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 2: so common for people to feel like, oh, well, New

900
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 2: York City and the boroughs are all one thing.

901
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 4: But what this really exemplifies is the fact that, like,

902
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 4: if you live in Staten Island, you're still reaching for

903
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 4: the life in Manhattan and you're still trying to get

904
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 4: on that particular way of life. Like it's just I

905
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 4: guess the better way to put it is that it's

906
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 4: just like this scene really, for me, exemplifies how you

907
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 4: can be so close to something and still not be

908
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 4: able to attain it. So to see tests already searching

909
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 4: for it, and she's like, you know what I love

910
00:41:58,200 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 4: about this scene too is she's like, oh, I can

911
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 4: have up my classes tonight, and you know, like she's

912
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 4: taking like elocution lessons, so the loser accent, and Cynthia's like,

913
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:06,800
Speaker 4: why would you want to lose.

914
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 2: Your accent, such a compact and beautiful scene to really

915
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 2: show what their lives are like exactly.

916
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: And I want to point this out too, because I

917
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 1: think this is actually really interesting. So from what I

918
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: know about Mike Nichols, the director, is that he was

919
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: actually an immigrant to America.

920
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 3: His family basically escaped the Nazis.

921
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: And his family came to New York from Germany to

922
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 1: start a new life. And I can't help but think

923
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: that this is also important to how this movie is structured,

924
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: which is that this is the concept of someone wanting

925
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: a new life. But yeah, it does have a feeling of,

926
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 1: like you know, of course, with the statue of liberty,

927
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 1: of immigration and sort of the idea that people can

928
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 1: remake themselves in America or in the big city like

929
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:55,439
Speaker 1: New York.

930
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 2: Right.

931
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: So, at the start of this movie, tests working for

932
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 1: these two horrible fucking Wall Street guys. They treat her

933
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 1: like absolute shit, as you can imagine, and they do

934
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: this in spite of the fact that it's clear she's

935
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: smart and she's showing initiative and she's taking night classes

936
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 1: and she's showing an interest in the company and in

937
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: their industry. Okay, but of course, because they're these like

938
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 1: gross Wall Street dudes. They just are seeing her as

939
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 1: their secretary, which, of course, at this time was this

940
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 1: very gendered and class based profession, and especially in eighties movies,

941
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,399
Speaker 1: you know, it's like there was always this like stereotype

942
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: of the secretary who was this like basically uneducated woman

943
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: who was pretty and kind of a bimbo and basically

944
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: subservient to men. And that's pretty much it, right, And

945
00:43:55,719 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: at one point Tessa's bosses tell her that they kind

946
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 1: of dangle this carrot in front of her face, saying,

947
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 1: oh my god, there's this like executive at the company

948
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: and they're looking to hire somebody, and you know, we

949
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: want to organize a.

950
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,760
Speaker 3: Quote unquote meeting for you with this guy.

951
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: And it ends up that the guy is Kevin Spacey,

952
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: and he wants to have a coke and porno party

953
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 1: in the back of his limo.

954
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 2: On their way to a hotel instead of like the

955
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 2: meeting that he said they were going.

956
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: To exactly, And as you can imagine, Tess is completely

957
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: insulted and she quits like pretty much the next day,

958
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 1: and she goes to her temp agency and the temp

959
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,879
Speaker 1: agency worker is Olympia Ducacus, which I love.

960
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 3: She's the best.

961
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: But she gets placed in another company, and this time

962
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 1: she's the secretary of this female executive who is named Catherine,

963
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 1: and she's played by Sigourney Weaver. Okay, I think a

964
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: lot has been said about the Sigourney Weaver character over

965
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 1: the years, like just things that I've read reviews of

966
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: Working Girl, like from back in the day but also

967
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 1: fairly recent, sort of like attempts to kind of watch

968
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,839
Speaker 1: the movie over again and recontextualize it a little bit.

969
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 1: And when Tess first shows up, Catherine introduces herself as

970
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 1: someone who just seems very confident, very powerful and put together,

971
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 1: but also somebody who might actually kind of understand somebody

972
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,720
Speaker 1: like Tests, like somebody who could be like a mentor

973
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 1: to her right. And Catherine is also saying things like, oh,

974
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: they have a working relationship, but it's a two way street,

975
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 1: and I always want to hear your ideas and you

976
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: know all that stuff. She seems like kind of initially

977
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 1: supportive of Tests, but she's also really quick to put

978
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: Tests in her place and just sort of reminding her like, hey,

979
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: you're my secretary, right, And Catherine is just always sort

980
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 1: of flaunting her status in Tess's face, which I think

981
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 1: is very important to note. And you know, I've read

982
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 1: a few criticisms about this film and about how that

983
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: kind of girl on girl crime of the film is

984
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 1: kind of like not so great. Which, yes, Catherine is

985
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,240
Speaker 1: a shitty woman, and she's a villain of this movie,

986
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: right she is. As the story progresses, you realize she's

987
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: not great, right, But I think when it comes down

988
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 1: to it, the tension for me when I see these

989
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:22,720
Speaker 1: two characters interacting is coming from this notion that Tess

990
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 1: wants Catherine's status, right, she wants her social standing and

991
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 1: her clothes and the way she carries herself. And like

992
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 1: you said, there's many points in the movie where Tessa

993
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 1: is trying to change herself to be more sort of

994
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 1: like I don't know, Like it's kind of like when

995
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 1: we talked about in the Six Degrees of Separation week,

996
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 1: where it's this idea of like mingling with rich people

997
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: who are educated and she's got to change her kind

998
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 1: of Staten Island ways. And there's at one point in

999
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:54,280
Speaker 1: the movie where Tess is listening to tapes of Catherine

1000
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: trying to match her diction like she's basically like Oh,

1001
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: here's how like a proper woman talks.

1002
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 4: The thing that gets me too about like, you know,

1003
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 4: I get what people say in that criticism of girl

1004
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 4: on Girl crime and what have you.

1005
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 2: But what really, what I really took.

1006
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 4: From this movie, especially during this viewing, more than anything,

1007
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 4: is that Catherine also had to behave in a particular

1008
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 4: way to be who she was and get where she was.

1009
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 4: So it wasn't that women didn't want to support each other.

1010
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 4: It's that there were rules already in place that they

1011
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 4: either didn't have enough power to do anything for other women,

1012
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 4: or if they did, it would diminish their own status, right,

1013
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 4: because that's that's the game when you're trying to, you know,

1014
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,280
Speaker 4: behave like white men essentially is like they will always

1015
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 4: put you in your place.

1016
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, Catherine is like giving her these reminders that

1017
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 1: she's trashy, right, you know, she's saying, like, take your

1018
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 1: jewelry off, you know, dress for success. You can't book

1019
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: me a good hotel room. I can do it because

1020
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:54,879
Speaker 1: I know how to speak German or whatever. And it's

1021
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 1: just sort of like that thing where it just kind

1022
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 1: of reinforces Tessa's anxieties about her, which is that she's

1023
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 1: low class and she doesn't want to be. And that's

1024
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: the ache of this movie for me, you know, is

1025
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 1: seeing that absolutely. So at a certain point, Catherine is

1026
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: out on a ski vacation and she breaks her leg.

1027
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 4: This is where Mike Nichols comedy shops come into play,

1028
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 4: because when she goes over that hill and you just

1029
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 4: hear her screaming for like ten solid seconds.

1030
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 2: I laugh every.

1031
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 1: Time anytime somebody flies off the side of a mountain

1032
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 1: on a bougie.

1033
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 2: Vacation, I laugh. It's just like that.

1034
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 1: It's simple comedy, folks, but it's effective.

1035
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 2: Right.

1036
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:43,839
Speaker 1: But she's stuck in the hospital for the next few

1037
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: weeks and basically calls Test and it's like, all right,

1038
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 1: you need to run my life when I'm gone, and

1039
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 1: starts giving her a laundry list of things that she

1040
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 1: needs to do.

1041
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 3: But you know, Tess is ambitious.

1042
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 1: And and Catherine herself has kind of been falsely telling

1043
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 1: her go for what you want, go for your dreams,

1044
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 1: and blah.

1045
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah. So Tests is like, fuck it, I'll

1046
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:03,760
Speaker 3: go one.

1047
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: Further and I'll use your office and your clothes and

1048
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:10,879
Speaker 1: your home as my own, and I'm gonna get into

1049
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: the mix, because I have good ideas and I don't

1050
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 1: know if you're like responding to them or not.

1051
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 3: And I want to make my own way.

1052
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 4: And she's She's given her one of her ideas, and

1053
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 4: Catherine was like, yeah, that's a good idea.

1054
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 2: We should work on it together. And then in listening

1055
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:24,760
Speaker 2: to those tapes.

1056
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 4: While she's running all these million errands, she realizes Katherine's

1057
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:28,800
Speaker 4: planning to steal this idea.

1058
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 2: As her own. Exactly.

1059
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 3: That's there's kind of two things that happened at the

1060
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 3: same time.

1061
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: So there's that there's the idea that Catherine is essentially

1062
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: stealing her idea and she finds proof of it. And

1063
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,240
Speaker 1: then the other thing that happens is that so Tess's

1064
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 1: boyfriend is played by Alec Baldwin, Young Alec Baldwin, who,

1065
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: of course, you know, he's got his shirt opened to

1066
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: exposes Harry Chess. He's got a few, you know, gold chains,

1067
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: he's a he's a little of that Staten islandy thing

1068
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: that she is more or less on the fence about.

1069
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 2: Am I right?

1070
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 1: And she shows up to their apartment and he is

1071
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: in bed with one of her friends. So she catches

1072
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,360
Speaker 1: him in the act, and as we know, she's already

1073
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,399
Speaker 1: like trying to get away from that staten Island life,

1074
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 1: and now she's like, oh wait, well, this is like,

1075
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 1: beyond the shadow of a doubt what I need to do.

1076
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 2: Because this fucking guy is.

1077
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 1: Cheating on me and fuck this, I'm going on with

1078
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 1: this new life that I want in New York City.

1079
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 2: Right.

1080
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 1: So, basically, she has this business idea, she wants to

1081
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: advance it, and she ends up meeting Jack, who is

1082
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: played by Harrison Ford, and they work together on this

1083
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 1: big company proposal and eventually, of course, they fall for

1084
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 1: each other. Meanwhile, Jack has literally no idea that Tess

1085
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:57,359
Speaker 1: is just a secretary, and as you can imagine, all

1086
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,280
Speaker 1: hell eventually breaks loose.

1087
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 3: But again, what's what's interesting for.

1088
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 1: Me in this work up to the end of this

1089
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 1: film is that, you know, Test starts going through this

1090
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: big transformation, right, She's like cutting her hair, she breaks

1091
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 1: up with the Alec Baldwin character. She starts carrying herself differently.

1092
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 1: She's wearing like all these business suits with the shoulder

1093
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: pads and she's got a briefcase, and you know, it's

1094
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 1: just this thing where you're like, okay, now, she's trying

1095
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 1: to achieve this dream.

1096
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 3: Like she's doing it, she's changing.

1097
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: Herself to be this high power New York executive that

1098
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: she's always wanted to be.

1099
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 4: And what I what I dig about it too, is

1100
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 4: that there's in our current cultural design, the message seems

1101
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:45,359
Speaker 4: to be, you know, never change yourself, Be who you are,

1102
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 4: do your thing.

1103
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 2: And I don't know if that's always realistic.

1104
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,800
Speaker 4: Depending on what your goals are, or even just depending

1105
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 4: on what you want your emotional life to be, because that,

1106
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 4: to me is the journey is another journey that Test

1107
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:00,080
Speaker 4: goes on in this film, and she goes on this

1108
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 4: very emotional journey, and like we're meeting her at a

1109
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 4: moment where her emotional development is starting to coincide with

1110
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 4: her her work life, and I think it's cool to

1111
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 4: see her not really she's not apologetic for either side

1112
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:18,320
Speaker 4: of it. She's not apologetic about wanting to improve herself,

1113
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 4: but she's also not apologetic about where she comes from

1114
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 4: and who she is, right And I think it's a

1115
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,399
Speaker 4: very interesting mix that you don't see in a lot

1116
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:26,720
Speaker 4: of movies because it's usually one.

1117
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 2: Or the others.

1118
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 4: So I think that this notion that you know, be

1119
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,879
Speaker 4: yourself in the way that we tend to portray it

1120
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 4: in our culture is never change. And I don't think

1121
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 4: that's realistic. I think it's you know, be true to

1122
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 4: yourself in every moment of who you are and in

1123
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 4: every different era of your life that you are changing

1124
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 4: with and how you know, changing into.

1125
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think it was especially important for women,

1126
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 1: you know, at this moment, at this particular moment in time,

1127
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:59,800
Speaker 1: to do these things, like to basically improve their lot,

1128
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:03,439
Speaker 1: do it by themselves, take no shit, you know. I mean,

1129
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: we came from a different time, like you and I

1130
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,800
Speaker 1: grew up in a completely different era where our success

1131
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: was much different than somebody like our mother's or any

1132
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:17,800
Speaker 1: any woman that kind of came before us, you know

1133
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,479
Speaker 1: what I mean. And it's something that has I've seen

1134
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 1: play out of my own family. And I will say

1135
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 1: that like, yeah, maybe in a modern context. Well, first

1136
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 1: of all, I will say that this is interesting in

1137
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 1: the sense that this story. So there is a scene

1138
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: where Harrison Ford and Tests they finally have spent the

1139
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 1: night together and they've ordered takeout the next day, and

1140
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 1: the takeout guy comes out to the door. Harrison Ford

1141
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 1: pays the takeout guy and then he leaves and Harrison

1142
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: Ford is whistling the song from the Wizard of Oz,

1143
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 1: which is if I only had a brain. And I

1144
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 1: think that this is incredibly fitting for what the theme

1145
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 1: of this movie is, which is that Working Girl is

1146
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 1: Wizard of Oz. It's it's a Cinderella fantasy. And what's

1147
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 1: interesting is the writer of Working Girl, his name is

1148
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 1: Kevin Wade. He actually wrote Made in Manhattan, which is

1149
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 1: basically the same story, right.

1150
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 2: The Jennifer Lopez one, the Jennifer Lopez movie exactly.

1151
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 1: And so you know, I'm sitting here thinking like, there

1152
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 1: there's it's not an accident that we're that all of

1153
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 1: these things are happening in this film where you're seeing

1154
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 1: like the Statue of Liberty, the Wizard of Oz song,

1155
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 1: you know, the let the River Run song. It's all

1156
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 1: kind of contributing to this idea that this is sort

1157
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 1: of a fantasy film about a woman who just wants

1158
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: to be the best that she can be.

1159
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 3: And you're right, there is sort of no like just

1160
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 3: be yourself. I don't think that that was the point.

1161
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 1: I think that she was like, I literally just want

1162
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 1: to be a different person, and she and she was

1163
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:56,839
Speaker 1: that different person by the end and there there goes

1164
00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: the theme song again. Right, So it's but it's interesting

1165
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 1: because I get I You're right. I think in a

1166
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 1: more modern context it would have probably played out a

1167
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 1: little differently. But I think in this particular era, it

1168
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 1: ended the way that it ended for a reason, you

1169
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 1: know what I mean.

1170
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:17,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, And the ending is very emotional, yeah, and very funny, yeah,

1171
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 4: and incredibly sweet.

1172
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 2: And I love it. I don't. I don't.

1173
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's almost like it's funny because I know that

1174
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 1: we don't like to give away things even though people

1175
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:27,839
Speaker 1: ask us to. And I don't really think I gave

1176
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 1: a lot away by what I just said. But but yeah,

1177
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: it does end in.

1178
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 2: A very.

1179
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 1: Uplifting, kind of perfect wrap up sort of way. But

1180
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 1: then also the ending shot is very interesting too, which

1181
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 1: you're just gonna have to watch and trust us on this,

1182
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 1: But it kind of like, is the other bookend to

1183
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 1: the story of you know, the Staten Island Fairy, you know.

1184
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 3: But yeah, as as a as a young girl, this

1185
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 3: was everything to me.

1186
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:02,839
Speaker 1: I loved the clone, loved the loved the everything about it,

1187
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 1: loved the secretary looks and also the sigourdy weaver looks man,

1188
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 1: She's got so much her apartment with like her like

1189
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:17,879
Speaker 1: neglige stuff. There's a lot of like clip on stockings

1190
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 1: in this film, which I was like, damn, I don't

1191
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 1: think I've ever worn that. I don't think I've ever

1192
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 1: worn those. And I always thought that that you were

1193
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 1: in the Red Shoe Diaries if you wore clip on

1194
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 1: stockings or your business woman basically so because.

1195
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 2: That's the only time we saw them in the eighties.

1196
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love that all of her, like the Warhol

1197
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 4: esque photos of herself.

1198
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 2: Yes, it's just such an eighties apartment. I love it

1199
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 2: so much. Oh my god.

1200
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, I spied a couple of wicker items like it

1201
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 1: was just that that was the the measure of success

1202
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 1: back then is having like a bar in your apartment

1203
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:01,800
Speaker 1: with a little refrigerator.

1204
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 4: So I love this movie as a kay and I

1205
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:06,799
Speaker 4: love it even more now, Like I had not seen

1206
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 4: it in a few years, but I watched it all

1207
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 4: the time, and it was on TV when I was

1208
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 4: a kid, and I.

1209
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 2: Fully thought, I guess I thought that there was a.

1210
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 4: Way to get ahead or a way to get into

1211
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 4: business and to not compromise and to kind of it

1212
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 4: impacted it like.

1213
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 2: It definitely had a big impact on me. Yeah, to

1214
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 2: see this movie.

1215
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 1: And also I think too, you know, generally our kind

1216
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 1: of cultural view of capitalism has changed so much since

1217
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 1: the eighties, so that maybe that wouldn't be the ending,

1218
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, if it was made in

1219
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, it wouldn't be the ending.

1220
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:43,919
Speaker 3: But you know, for the time that this was made,

1221
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 3: this was the perfect ending. And yeah, and in.

1222
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 1: Fact, when I when I saw it, because I saw

1223
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 1: it not too long ago, actually maybe like six months ago,

1224
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 1: I it was more serious to me that.

1225
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 3: It was when I was a kid. When I was

1226
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 3: a kid, I.

1227
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:00,120
Speaker 1: Was just like, oh, shoulder pads and I shadow oh,

1228
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 1: and you know, putting on sneakers over pantyhose and you

1229
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 1: know that kind of stuff.

1230
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 2: I forgot the whole Alec Baldwin subplot. Yeah, like I didn't.

1231
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 4: I didn't lock on any of that shit when I

1232
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 4: was a kid. All it was just all about the

1233
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 4: business world. Yeah, but it is worth. It's worth a rewatch.

1234
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 4: It's worth it's definitely worth a first watch. If you've

1235
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 4: never seen this movie, you're in for so many treats.

1236
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to.

1237
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 1: It's a It's a perfect time capsule of you know,

1238
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 1: the eighties and the business world, New York City women,

1239
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 1: you know in the workforce.

1240
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 3: It's great, it's.

1241
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 2: Great, good pick. Thank you.

1242
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 3: Whoa, Now you're a movie.

1243
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 2: Huh oh boy, Oh my god, this is so fun.

1244
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 2: I can't wait to talk about this movie. All right.

1245
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 4: So my pick for the theme of looks like a

1246
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 4: pump Feels like a Sneaker was released in nineteen ninety one,

1247
00:58:56,520 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 4: directed by Stephen Herrick and written by Neil Landau and

1248
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 4: Tara Iisen, and the movie is don't tell Mom the

1249
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 4: babysitters dead, bow the.

1250
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 2: Lawn today, and don't forget to do the dishes. Okay,

1251
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 2: dishes are done.

1252
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 5: Man.

1253
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 4: This is a movie that when I read about it now,

1254
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 4: it's always referred to as a cult classic, which makes

1255
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 4: me laugh so hard because this was just like a

1256
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 4: movie that was kind of designed for kids, or you know,

1257
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 4: it was aimed at kids. I don't think it did

1258
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 4: terribly well at the box office. I did not look

1259
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 4: that up, so don't correct me. This is just from

1260
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 4: my memory because it was released in nineteen ninety one

1261
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 4: when I was like twelve thirteen years old, and I

1262
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 4: remember it being like, that's just a dumb movie for

1263
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 4: kids when it was released, but I think it became

1264
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 4: a cult classic because for those of us who grew

1265
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:53,439
Speaker 4: up in this easy spirit time, we got to see

1266
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 4: a version of working Girl for the teenage set. Essentially,

1267
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 4: there are definitely some classic.

1268
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 2: One liners in here. Oh Man.

1269
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 4: Just to give a brief synopsis, we have an LA

1270
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 4: Area teen who thinks she's on the road to freedom

1271
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 4: when her mom decides to go to Australia for two

1272
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 4: months during the summer after she graduates. But then when

1273
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 4: her mom hires an elderly babysitter who dies, the teenager

1274
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 4: has a rude awakening about life. So that's my anopsis,

1275
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 4: and that is essentially the movie. It's like, yes, so

1276
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 4: this is a movie that stars Christina Applegate as Suellen.

1277
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 4: She goes by Swell, which I love, Joanna Cassidy, Keith Coogan,

1278
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 4: Josh Charles, There's so many people in this film, but

1279
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 4: Suellen is the main character, and she's again she's this

1280
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 4: teenager who is already upset at the beginning of the

1281
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 4: film because, unlike her friends, she cannot go to Europe

1282
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 4: for two months to celebrate their graduation. This is a

1283
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 4: movie where everyone who goes away goes away to another

1284
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 4: country for two months.

1285
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 2: Like that.

1286
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 4: There's no like traveling across town or like a staycation.

1287
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 4: It's like I got to go to Australia for two months,

1288
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:11,440
Speaker 4: or I have to go to Europe for two months.

1289
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 1: That to me is I mean, obviously in a modern context,

1290
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, the mom left five.

1291
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 2: Kids five.

1292
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 1: Not even alone, she left five kids with somebody else

1293
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:29,479
Speaker 1: for two months, two months. And I know that you've

1294
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 1: talked about how babysitting is like an insane profession. Yeah,

1295
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 1: and so already I'm like, holy shit, like her mom

1296
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 1: has left them for two entire months.

1297
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think.

1298
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 4: I think babysitting is a psychotic endeavor in general, and

1299
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 4: I think this version of babysitting is so much can

1300
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 4: happen in two months?

1301
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 2: Two months is an eternity.

1302
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 4: Any babysitter you hire, it's an eternity. And if you

1303
01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 4: hire someone who's just devious enough, those kids could have

1304
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 4: different identities and be shipped off to different countries within

1305
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 4: a week of be leaving, and you wouldn't know for

1306
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 4: a month and a half.

1307
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 3: I got, okay, I'm not gonna Lie.

1308
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 1: I thought this when I saw this movie in the

1309
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 1: year that it was made.

1310
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 3: Okay, I was a little scared of this family.

1311
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 1: There was a lot going on with the mom and

1312
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 1: the house, and I was a little freaked out by

1313
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 1: these kids.

1314
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 2: These kids ran this house. Ps. Wow.

1315
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 4: So in the beginning of the film, where before the

1316
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 4: mom leaves, like as the mom's making preparations to leave,

1317
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 4: and we get to kind of just see what their

1318
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 4: morning routine is like and what they're like as a family.

1319
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 2: It is chaos. It is chaos.

1320
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 4: So you've got Sue Ellen, who's you know again just

1321
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 4: graduated kind of the older, the oldest kid.

1322
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 2: Keith Coogan, who plays her brother. Kenny, is the next

1323
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 2: in line, and he is just a straight up stoner

1324
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 2: dirt bag in the most wonderful depiction, like I've never

1325
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:54,920
Speaker 2: seen it depict it so.

1326
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 1: Perfectly obsessed with Kenny and his friends. They are are

1327
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:05,840
Speaker 1: head metal heroes. I mean, I just am like we

1328
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 1: talked about this character back in the you know, many

1329
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 1: episodes ago when we talked about like our eighties heavy metal,

1330
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 1: like these guys are it.

1331
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 2: It's perfect to a fucking tea.

1332
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:19,440
Speaker 4: And then you've got you know, some progressively younger kids.

1333
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 4: So you've got Zach played by Christopher Petiott, who I

1334
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 4: just actually, when I was looking up facts about this movie,

1335
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 4: I didn't realize that he died.

1336
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, he died. He was really young.

1337
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 4: And then you have Melissa, who's kind of like what

1338
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 4: at the time would have been referred to as a

1339
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 4: tomboy type. But she's tough and she likes flipping people

1340
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 4: off and lighting things on fire, and she's fucking rad.

1341
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 4: And then you've got Walter, who's this little kid who's

1342
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 4: obsessed with television. And what I tell you, this family

1343
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 4: is chaos.

1344
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 2: It's like while the mom's.

1345
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 4: Getting everything ready in the morning, they're stealing money out

1346
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:57,040
Speaker 4: of her purse, they're sleeping all over them. There's just stuff,

1347
01:03:57,200 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 4: just piles of stuff all over the place. I could

1348
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 4: not comfortable in a house like that, And that would

1349
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 4: never have flown in my house, to have a house

1350
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 4: that chaotic. Yeah, And it was set up that she

1351
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 4: was a single mom, so you have some sympathy for sure.

1352
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 4: And they also kind of set up that the dad

1353
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 4: was still alive, but he just wasn't involved. Like it

1354
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 4: was just a very quick kind of went off line.

1355
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 4: So when the mom goes away and she tells Melissa

1356
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 4: because she's like, why why are you going away for

1357
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 4: two months with your boyfriend to Australia And the mom says,

1358
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:31,439
Speaker 4: it's because I'm thirty seven and I'm exhausted, and I'm like.

1359
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 2: Thirty seven. Wow, that didn't hit me with the first

1360
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:36,960
Speaker 2: eight hundred times I saw this movie either.

1361
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, again, that's our age.

1362
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 1: If you watch older movies as a fucking full ass adult,

1363
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:46,920
Speaker 1: you're like, thirty seven with five kids is outrageous.

1364
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 2: That was the eighties all over.

1365
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 4: That was a single mom with five kids at thirty seven.

1366
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 2: That line was two.

1367
01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 4: Minutes in the movie, and it threw me for a

1368
01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:00,080
Speaker 4: fucking luke by deposit and think about that for like another.

1369
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 2: Oh god too, But she does.

1370
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:05,439
Speaker 4: She leaves, and it's hilarious too, because, like you see,

1371
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 4: this relationship that this mom has with Sue Ellen would

1372
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:12,760
Speaker 4: swell so as the mom's leaving, like it's not even planned,

1373
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:15,440
Speaker 4: it's not even discussed. It's literally as she's going out

1374
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:18,320
Speaker 4: the door, this older woman shows up, this elderly woman,

1375
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 4: and when Suellen answers the door, she's like, who are you?

1376
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 2: And she's like, I'm the babysitter.

1377
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 4: So she didn't realize because suell And again had this

1378
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 4: whole plan for the summer, like her friends were going

1379
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 4: to be gone, but she was going to go to

1380
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 4: the beach.

1381
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 2: And chill out and like the kids were going to

1382
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 2: be taken care of and it was gonna be fine.

1383
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 4: So the babysitter shows up, very sweet, older woman, and

1384
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 4: Suellen is so pissed at her mom and she's outside

1385
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 4: sulking in a chair, and the mom's like, look, just

1386
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 4: have a good summer, take care of things, and don't

1387
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:49,920
Speaker 4: do anything that I would be against. She's saying this

1388
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 4: as Christina Applegate is smoking a cigarette. Oh my god,

1389
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 4: and I'm like, this is the family we're in right now.

1390
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 1: I just had to say, I mean, this is the

1391
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 1: high Christina apple Gate era. Right she was Kelly Bundy.

1392
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 1: She was like America's heavy metal sweetheart.

1393
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 3: And I'm just like she.

1394
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 1: When she shows up in that long dress with those

1395
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 1: Doc martins smoking a cigarette in front of her mom,

1396
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, wow, Okay, I think I know

1397
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 1: this girl.

1398
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:22,640
Speaker 3: I knew this girl, you know completely.

1399
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 2: That was a very important moment I think for her.

1400
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 4: Also in her career because Kelly Bundy was like the

1401
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:29,640
Speaker 4: sexed up idiot, and she was playing a very different

1402
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 4: character in this movie.

1403
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Christina Applegate, you gotta put me on. I mean,

1404
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 1: and she was, she's the star of the film. And

1405
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 1: she she did take a detour. I mean, she was

1406
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:41,960
Speaker 1: still kind of like heavy metal adjacent, but she was

1407
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 1: definitely not Kelly Bundy. She was not like, you know,

1408
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 1: sex on a stick walking through the living room and

1409
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:52,959
Speaker 1: guys in the audience going whoo, you know, like different.

1410
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:55,320
Speaker 4: Right, yeah, And I like I like that for her,

1411
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:58,400
Speaker 4: Like I like that she made that choice. Yeah, I

1412
01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:01,800
Speaker 4: thought that was a good smart move. So she's she's seventeen,

1413
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:05,480
Speaker 4: and again her summer has been kind of ruined because

1414
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 4: now as soon as the mom leaves, missus Sturak, the

1415
01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:11,640
Speaker 4: babysitter turns into a fucking drill sergeant, like with a

1416
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:14,439
Speaker 4: whistle and the whole nine. Because she took one look

1417
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 4: at that place and she was like, fucking no. She

1418
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 4: had a list a mile long.

1419
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:21,320
Speaker 2: She had like one of those big whiteboards with like

1420
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:24,680
Speaker 2: everyone's names and their chores next to it. She went

1421
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:26,160
Speaker 2: in like day one.

1422
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 4: She was like, this is not how this family is

1423
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 4: going to be run on here. So missus Sturac gets,

1424
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:34,240
Speaker 4: you know, this big envelope of money from the mom,

1425
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:37,000
Speaker 4: and she's just taking care of these kids for two

1426
01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:38,880
Speaker 4: months and she's like, look, I don't have any family

1427
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 4: on my own.

1428
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:40,520
Speaker 2: I love taking care of kids.

1429
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 4: And then the kids are starting to revolt against some

1430
01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:50,200
Speaker 4: of her rules, and when when Swell goes in to

1431
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 4: kind of lay down the lawn, she finds missus Sturac dead.

1432
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:57,080
Speaker 2: She has died of natural causes in her chair.

1433
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:01,320
Speaker 4: And what I absolutely love about this scene is because

1434
01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 4: she then goes to get Kenny and all the kids

1435
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 4: to talk about it. This scene, to me, is exactly

1436
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:09,360
Speaker 4: how kids would have reacted to something like this. So

1437
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:12,120
Speaker 4: they were like, let's not call mom. You know, we

1438
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:13,600
Speaker 4: don't want to call the cops, because if we call

1439
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 4: the cops, then Mom's going to come home, and we

1440
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:17,240
Speaker 4: don't want Mom to come home. And then they're like,

1441
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:21,559
Speaker 4: you know, they basically just kind of talk themselves into

1442
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:25,679
Speaker 4: not actually doing the right thing and reporting this death.

1443
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:28,519
Speaker 4: So instead, what they do is they drop her off

1444
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:30,760
Speaker 4: at They drop.

1445
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 2: Her off at a funeral home in a crate on

1446
01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 2: a note.

1447
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 4: That's nice, old lady inside died of natural causes.

1448
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 2: Absolutely hilarious. They used her car.

1449
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:47,920
Speaker 4: She pulls up in this great old buick that you

1450
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 4: know she bought brand new and has kept running for

1451
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:53,360
Speaker 4: forty five years, and they're driving around her car and

1452
01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 4: dropping her off and just like ding dong ditch with

1453
01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:57,280
Speaker 4: an actual dead body.

1454
01:08:57,600 --> 01:08:59,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, hilarious.

1455
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:02,719
Speaker 1: Well, the funny thing is that when I was a kid,

1456
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 1: I was convinced that she died of natural causes because

1457
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:09,120
Speaker 1: she went into Kenny's room. She simply opened the door

1458
01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:12,600
Speaker 1: and saw that he had like guns n' roses posters

1459
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:17,519
Speaker 1: and like pictures of Samantha Fox with no shirt on

1460
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 1: and like stars over her nips. And she later died

1461
01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 1: of a coronary event because she went to a heavy

1462
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:28,600
Speaker 1: metal guy's bedroom.

1463
01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 4: Completely what I thought, as well as like, okay, she

1464
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:33,160
Speaker 4: took one look at all the shit and like the

1465
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:35,160
Speaker 4: pizza boxes and the piles of clothes.

1466
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:37,640
Speaker 2: Could not she was like, let me us close the door.

1467
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:39,800
Speaker 2: I can't even handle this. She started breathing heavy. She

1468
01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:46,559
Speaker 2: had a pr MC heart attack, the most eighties of all.

1469
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 4: So the kids are now like, all right, cool, the

1470
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:55,679
Speaker 4: babysitter's not here. We can go back to our Summer

1471
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 4: of freedom, except there's one problem. The money that the

1472
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:03,240
Speaker 4: her mom left with missus Sturrek is gone. It's not

1473
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:06,639
Speaker 4: on the envelope that they find, so they're like, oh shit,

1474
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:09,320
Speaker 4: she must have had it on her. They rip her

1475
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:11,680
Speaker 4: room apart, and again very indicative of the kind of

1476
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:14,559
Speaker 4: kids that these these were, they rip her room to

1477
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:16,880
Speaker 4: shreds looking for this money. And then as they are

1478
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:19,600
Speaker 4: all leaving the room and someone says, who's going to

1479
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 4: clean this up?

1480
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:22,640
Speaker 2: And another kid says, not me, And that is this

1481
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:25,360
Speaker 2: whole family like I'm not doing it. I ain't doing it.

1482
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:28,200
Speaker 4: So in order to figure out how they're going to

1483
01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:32,080
Speaker 4: survive for two months with no cash and not wanting

1484
01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:35,719
Speaker 4: to call their mom, they decide to flip a frozen

1485
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:38,200
Speaker 4: Mama Celeste pizza to see who has to go get

1486
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:43,680
Speaker 4: a job. And I have made decisions with much less involvement.

1487
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:47,160
Speaker 4: I've made decisions for less exactly.

1488
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:48,960
Speaker 1: This is the thing I love about this movie too,

1489
01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:51,360
Speaker 1: is that it's such a time capsule of that era

1490
01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:53,640
Speaker 1: with like the products you know what I mean, Like

1491
01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:56,720
Speaker 1: they taught Like first of all, the little brother is

1492
01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:59,479
Speaker 1: like always watching TV and he's watching wind Loser draw

1493
01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:00,240
Speaker 1: which I.

1494
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:02,760
Speaker 3: Was obsessed with what I was a kids do with it.

1495
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:03,960
Speaker 2: And there's the.

1496
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 3: Mama Celeste pizza.

1497
01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 1: At one point, like Swell makes us joke about dianetics,

1498
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:12,080
Speaker 1: and it's just sort of like it is a lot

1499
01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:15,639
Speaker 1: of that like in joke type of stuff that existed

1500
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:18,840
Speaker 1: in the era, which was really revolving around TV by

1501
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:21,080
Speaker 1: like commercials and that kind of stuff.

1502
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:24,200
Speaker 2: It's great, it's great, so good, and it is exactly that.

1503
01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:26,799
Speaker 4: It's like when you're getting to see all these different

1504
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:29,599
Speaker 4: types of kids, but especially kids who were kind of

1505
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:33,720
Speaker 4: raised on TV and steeped in pop culture exactly.

1506
01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:34,400
Speaker 6: Yep.

1507
01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:36,840
Speaker 4: So when they flip, Swell is the one who has

1508
01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:40,679
Speaker 4: to go get the job. She does get a job

1509
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:45,080
Speaker 4: at a place called clown Dog, which is just this

1510
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:48,600
Speaker 4: hot dog restaurant, like hot dog and burger restaurant, and

1511
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 4: she's like cleaning out the fat vats and she is

1512
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:54,879
Speaker 4: not having a good time of it, but it's important

1513
01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:57,799
Speaker 4: that she works there because she gets to meet Brian,

1514
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:02,160
Speaker 4: who's played by a very young Josh Charles Ah and

1515
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 4: they just hit it off.

1516
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:07,160
Speaker 1: He is always like the hunky preppy boyfriend.

1517
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:08,920
Speaker 2: Like always, always, always.

1518
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:12,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like even in his later career, when he was

1519
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:13,800
Speaker 1: on Sports Night and stuff. I was like, Oh, he's

1520
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:19,040
Speaker 1: like the funny jock type that would date a girl

1521
01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:22,280
Speaker 1: like Christine Applegate. Like she's like, she's punk and he's preppy,

1522
01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 1: but he would date.

1523
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:25,240
Speaker 3: A punk girl, you know exactly, and he.

1524
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:27,680
Speaker 4: Kind of knows a few things that would be like

1525
01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:28,679
Speaker 4: like interesting to her.

1526
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:31,960
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, it's a good mix. It's a very good match.

1527
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:33,960
Speaker 2: And he's like, why don't you just quit?

1528
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 4: And I'm like, spoken like a true white guy, exactly,

1529
01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:39,920
Speaker 4: you don't like this job, why don't you just quit?

1530
01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:42,639
Speaker 4: And she does, and that's the most punk rock thing

1531
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:44,760
Speaker 4: of all. She's like, you know what, peace because her

1532
01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:50,440
Speaker 4: boss is like unbelievably off the chain happy and insisting

1533
01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:52,479
Speaker 4: that she'd be happy about everything she does, and she's like,

1534
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:56,759
Speaker 4: I cannot do this, So she quits. She fakes her resume,

1535
01:12:56,920 --> 01:12:59,120
Speaker 4: She basically copies it right out of her resume book,

1536
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:02,599
Speaker 4: types it up on a typewriter, and goes to apply

1537
01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 4: to be a receptionist at this fashion company, gaw General

1538
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:11,680
Speaker 4: of Harrel West, because she really is into fashion. And

1539
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 4: then when she actually goes to apply for the job

1540
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:18,320
Speaker 4: and has a run in with the woman who's going

1541
01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 4: to be her future boss, and the woman who's going

1542
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:23,760
Speaker 4: to be her future boss, Rose Lindsey, takes one look

1543
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:27,360
Speaker 4: at her resume and is like, you're way too overqualified

1544
01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:30,960
Speaker 4: to be a receptionist. You should be my executive assistant. Carol,

1545
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:33,479
Speaker 4: the woman who was going to be my executive assistant,

1546
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:34,679
Speaker 4: you're going.

1547
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:35,599
Speaker 2: To leap frog over her.

1548
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:39,719
Speaker 4: So now Carol is instantly on the outs with Swell

1549
01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:42,559
Speaker 4: because she's just like, who is this woman who just

1550
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:45,680
Speaker 4: walked in off the street and took my job? And

1551
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:47,479
Speaker 4: the reason she was able to take that job is

1552
01:13:47,479 --> 01:13:49,559
Speaker 4: because she lied and said she was twenty seven and

1553
01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:52,360
Speaker 4: handed in a fake ass resume. So now all hell

1554
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:54,800
Speaker 4: is breaking loose because she has a job that she

1555
01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:59,160
Speaker 4: is so unfit for, has no idea what she's doing.

1556
01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:00,000
Speaker 3: Unbelievable.

1557
01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually paused the movie when they showed her

1558
01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 1: resume and she had listed that she worked at like

1559
01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:14,599
Speaker 1: come de Gar song Inyo and like and the whole

1560
01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:17,440
Speaker 1: the whole resume is totally outrageous.

1561
01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:19,759
Speaker 3: And she went to like Ivy Lake Schools or whatever,

1562
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 3: and it was like, this girl is bold.

1563
01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:26,040
Speaker 2: It was so bold, I fucking loved it.

1564
01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:28,840
Speaker 4: And she so she takes this job and speaking of

1565
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:30,680
Speaker 4: the eighties of it all, and speaking of you know,

1566
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:33,720
Speaker 4: kind of the cultural time capsule that this movie is in.

1567
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:36,800
Speaker 4: When Suellen, who you know, hires her and starts her

1568
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:39,320
Speaker 4: right away, when she's going through the list of like

1569
01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:41,840
Speaker 4: what her job duties are, she's like, oh, yeah, I

1570
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:43,679
Speaker 4: just pick up the roll of dex here's your computer.

1571
01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:45,920
Speaker 4: You can use word star or lotus. And I was like,

1572
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:47,679
Speaker 4: what the fuck are these.

1573
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:50,880
Speaker 2: What she talking about?

1574
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 4: Oh, She's like, you know, logo, the turtle is right there, like,

1575
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:58,960
Speaker 4: just knock yourself out. So Suellen is drowning instantly under

1576
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:01,360
Speaker 4: the weight of the job that she is one hundred

1577
01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:03,680
Speaker 4: percent not qualified for and didn't expect to get. But

1578
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:05,639
Speaker 4: she's going to fake it because the pay is good

1579
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:08,400
Speaker 4: and she's gets benefits the whole night. It's going to

1580
01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:11,719
Speaker 4: get them through the summer. And all that Rose asks

1581
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 4: of her, because again Rose is the VP of Operations,

1582
01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:17,680
Speaker 4: that she aw all that she asks of her is

1583
01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:20,000
Speaker 4: that she says, I'm right on top of that Rose.

1584
01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:24,960
Speaker 2: Whenever Rose asks her something while she's on.

1585
01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:27,040
Speaker 4: The phone or in a meeting, it's all she wants

1586
01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:29,080
Speaker 4: and she's like, cool, I can do that. There's also

1587
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:32,080
Speaker 4: this big, huge report called a QD report that she's

1588
01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:34,680
Speaker 4: responsible for, and there's just like all these lingo ye,

1589
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 4: like I'm interfacing with New York at three o'clock kind

1590
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:38,840
Speaker 4: of kind of business, he's saying.

1591
01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:41,760
Speaker 2: But Suellen's like, you know what, it's cool, we can

1592
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 2: do this. It's going to be all right. So she

1593
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:45,200
Speaker 2: takes the kids.

1594
01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:50,400
Speaker 4: Out for dinner, explains the situation, and then I don't

1595
01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:54,160
Speaker 4: know why this is a plot point, but drag queens

1596
01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:58,679
Speaker 4: steal missus Sturak's car that they've been driving around in. Yes,

1597
01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:03,439
Speaker 4: they see these people under the hood sealing the car,

1598
01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:07,479
Speaker 4: and as the cars driving away, it's like Liza Minelli

1599
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:10,679
Speaker 4: and Marilyn Monroe in the front seat and they're like, Liza,

1600
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:15,320
Speaker 4: it is just the most random great seat in that movie.

1601
01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:17,920
Speaker 3: Oh my god, only in La am I Right.

1602
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:21,120
Speaker 4: So Swell is kind of, you know, she's kind of

1603
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:23,720
Speaker 4: upset to learn that this is a fashion company that

1604
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:29,880
Speaker 4: makes industrial uniforms, but she's thrilled when Rose reveals to

1605
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:32,200
Speaker 4: her that there's a petty cash box that she can

1606
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:34,960
Speaker 4: use her for her business meetings and things they need

1607
01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:38,000
Speaker 4: in the office in corporate shit and this is this

1608
01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:41,439
Speaker 4: is a petty cash box that looks like nothing I've

1609
01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:44,800
Speaker 4: ever seen. It's the size of the fucking makeup trunk. Yeah,

1610
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:47,519
Speaker 4: and it is stacked with fifties, Like I have never

1611
01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 4: seen anything like it.

1612
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:52,559
Speaker 2: That is not petty cash that is an entire bank account.

1613
01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:53,559
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1614
01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:55,840
Speaker 1: Have you ever had a job where you had to

1615
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:57,519
Speaker 1: manage a petty cash box?

1616
01:16:57,640 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like an envelope with five dollars in it.

1617
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:02,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we weren't allowed to have more than five

1618
01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:04,840
Speaker 1: hundred dollars in that box. At some point of the movie,

1619
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:06,960
Speaker 1: like one of the kids mentions that there's like over

1620
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:09,880
Speaker 1: three thousand dollars in there, So damn that is not

1621
01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:12,360
Speaker 1: a petty cash box that has a lot of money

1622
01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:14,040
Speaker 1: in it. That should be a bank.

1623
01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:18,000
Speaker 4: Right, exactly exactly, because that's what happens is when she's

1624
01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:20,760
Speaker 4: she starts using petty cash she get her through while

1625
01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:23,479
Speaker 4: she's waiting for her first paycheck, and she's like, it's cool,

1626
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:25,679
Speaker 4: my first paychecks can be like over one thousand dollars.

1627
01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:27,400
Speaker 2: Doesn't realize that taxes are.

1628
01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 4: Going to come out a bit because she's never had

1629
01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:33,479
Speaker 4: a job before, and so she's been essentially stealing money

1630
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:35,679
Speaker 4: from this company, and then the kids have been stealing

1631
01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:38,760
Speaker 4: from her, so she starts doing the math and she's like,

1632
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 4: we have taken over three thousand dollars at a petty

1633
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:43,200
Speaker 4: cash Like I'm now a criminal.

1634
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:45,280
Speaker 2: So in order to kind.

1635
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:47,639
Speaker 4: Of make up for it, she pulls this beautiful stunt

1636
01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:49,960
Speaker 4: when Rose kind of needs to put on this big

1637
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:54,639
Speaker 4: fashion show to kind of impress her bosses, and again

1638
01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:55,679
Speaker 4: all hell breaks loose.

1639
01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:58,880
Speaker 2: But there's these beautiful moments in this movie that are

1640
01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:00,080
Speaker 2: hilarious to me.

1641
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 4: First of all, David du Coveny's in this film plays

1642
01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:06,040
Speaker 4: a guy named Bruce, and he and Carol are like

1643
01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:09,439
Speaker 4: office besties when it comes to cause and shit. They

1644
01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:13,400
Speaker 4: cannot believe that Suellyn got hired, so their whole purpose

1645
01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:15,960
Speaker 4: is to take her down and find out some dirt.

1646
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:17,519
Speaker 2: And they are thwarted at every move.

1647
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 4: But he's got this like slick backed hair, kind of

1648
01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:24,160
Speaker 4: trickster sort of look that is so wild to see.

1649
01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:27,080
Speaker 2: Now on the other side of Fox Moult, Oh my god.

1650
01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:29,439
Speaker 1: So first of all, I have to state for the

1651
01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:35,080
Speaker 1: record that alexis our producer and maybe a few others

1652
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:39,200
Speaker 1: thought that our theme this week was about David du Coveney,

1653
01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:42,559
Speaker 1: because David du Coveney is actually in my movie as well.

1654
01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:43,559
Speaker 3: Very briefly.

1655
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:47,400
Speaker 1: He's like you, he's a background character in the wedding

1656
01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:49,639
Speaker 1: scene or something, and so people were like, oh, it's

1657
01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:50,800
Speaker 1: a David du Coveney theme.

1658
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:53,320
Speaker 3: I'm like, now, very.

1659
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:58,360
Speaker 1: Close, but no cigar, And I was intentional, Yeah, totally unintentional,

1660
01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:01,440
Speaker 1: totally unintentional, but yeah.

1661
01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:05,080
Speaker 3: These two are such little shit birds.

1662
01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:08,599
Speaker 1: They're like the office nosy neighbors, Like they're just sort

1663
01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:11,000
Speaker 1: of like trying to figure her out, trying to like,

1664
01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:15,519
Speaker 1: you know, basically bust her for being a fraud. And

1665
01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 1: you know, I hate those types of characters in the movies.

1666
01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:24,080
Speaker 1: They're like shitty, you know, jealous employees that are trying

1667
01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:26,800
Speaker 1: to take down the person we want to win, you know, and.

1668
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:28,519
Speaker 2: It's like, just keep your eyes on your own plate.

1669
01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:29,639
Speaker 2: Because what's the one thing.

1670
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 4: One of the lines that's really funny to me is

1671
01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:35,880
Speaker 4: when Suellen gets hired and Rose comes out and she's like,

1672
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:37,960
Speaker 4: where's Carol And she's like, oh, the lady who looks

1673
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 4: like she's like she talks like she's chewing her own face,

1674
01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:43,120
Speaker 4: and like that is a great fucking description that is

1675
01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:43,840
Speaker 4: a great line.

1676
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:46,160
Speaker 2: Oh my god, exactly, and it's true.

1677
01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:48,880
Speaker 4: They're just so sniveling and behind the scenes and I

1678
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:50,880
Speaker 4: kind of I kind of love it, but it's very

1679
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:54,720
Speaker 4: they're very funny characters that are kind of like, you know,

1680
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:57,240
Speaker 4: right out of Central Casting, but they're very, very funny.

1681
01:19:57,280 --> 01:19:58,479
Speaker 3: One hundred percent yep.

1682
01:19:58,600 --> 01:20:01,639
Speaker 4: And then there's also, speaking of Central Casting, there's also

1683
01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:05,200
Speaker 4: Rose's smarmy boyfriend who also works at the company, Gus,

1684
01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:08,840
Speaker 4: and Gus is an eighties nightmare come true. He is

1685
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:12,080
Speaker 4: just so fucking gross. He totally is trying to mac

1686
01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:13,519
Speaker 4: on Suellen in.

1687
01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:17,920
Speaker 2: Front of his girlfriend, like sending her flowers, taking her

1688
01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:22,800
Speaker 2: to lunch, just being so gross and inappropriate. And he's

1689
01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:24,760
Speaker 2: also he's just so sleazy and the guy.

1690
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:27,280
Speaker 4: He's played by John Gantz, who's played a number of

1691
01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:30,240
Speaker 4: characters over the years, but in the eighties he kind

1692
01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:32,160
Speaker 4: of played that guy like that was kind of the

1693
01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:35,240
Speaker 4: guy for a while, so he plays it well, but

1694
01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:39,679
Speaker 4: it's just so inappropriate. And Rose is also a little

1695
01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:43,960
Speaker 4: inappropriate with with Sue Ellen with Swell when she's talking

1696
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:46,880
Speaker 4: about Gus, because there's at one point where he sends

1697
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:50,400
Speaker 4: roses to Suellen and then Rose comes in and is like, ooh,

1698
01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:52,120
Speaker 4: I got flowers. So she kind of plays it off

1699
01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:54,360
Speaker 4: because she doesn't want to, you know, hurt Roses feelings.

1700
01:20:54,800 --> 01:21:01,400
Speaker 4: And Rose's response is like, yes, that weekend in Santa

1701
01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:04,240
Speaker 4: Barbara must have worked, like have you ever had a

1702
01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:07,200
Speaker 4: forty eight hour orgasm? And I'm like, this is inappropriate,

1703
01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:09,479
Speaker 4: even if you weren't talking to a seventeen year old, Like,

1704
01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:12,120
Speaker 4: no boss should be saying things like that.

1705
01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:17,960
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I love Rose Lindsey too. I love

1706
01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:22,040
Speaker 1: her so much. I love the character, I love the attitude. Ye. However,

1707
01:21:22,200 --> 01:21:24,599
Speaker 1: she does slip in a couple of like weird things,

1708
01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:27,479
Speaker 1: like she says that and then she mentions she makes

1709
01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:30,799
Speaker 1: that joke or whatever about how every girl over twenty

1710
01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:35,240
Speaker 1: five needs a cucumber in the house. Yes, And I'm like, damn,

1711
01:21:35,479 --> 01:21:39,760
Speaker 1: that doesn't work appropriate Okay, but this is also.

1712
01:21:39,479 --> 01:21:41,600
Speaker 2: A part of what I thought it meant to be

1713
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:43,760
Speaker 2: an eighties business woman, which is that you were like

1714
01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:45,240
Speaker 2: horny twenty four to seven.

1715
01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:49,120
Speaker 3: Yes, horny and self care.

1716
01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:51,720
Speaker 1: Like she's like, because basically they're talking about go she

1717
01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:53,400
Speaker 1: sells her to go home and take a bath and

1718
01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:55,440
Speaker 1: put some cucumbers over her eyelids.

1719
01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:58,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have the cow gone moment.

1720
01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:02,120
Speaker 1: Yes, have a Calgon moment, but also have a cucumber

1721
01:22:02,200 --> 01:22:04,519
Speaker 1: in case you're feeling some type of way Like I

1722
01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:05,960
Speaker 1: was like, Wow, that's so weird.

1723
01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:08,680
Speaker 2: It's bizarre. And in the midst of all this we

1724
01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:10,800
Speaker 2: have this one adorable.

1725
01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:13,120
Speaker 4: This is definitely part of the cult classic of the

1726
01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:19,599
Speaker 4: cult classic scenes of this movie because Brian and Swell start,

1727
01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:21,080
Speaker 4: you know, they go on a date and they're at

1728
01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:23,120
Speaker 4: the beach and they're, you know, like throwing seaweed at

1729
01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:25,479
Speaker 4: each other. Again, I lived in LA for years, didn't

1730
01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:26,840
Speaker 4: go to the beach. I don't know what you do there,

1731
01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:29,400
Speaker 4: but that was their idea of a date was I'm

1732
01:22:29,439 --> 01:22:30,439
Speaker 4: gonna throw seaweed at you.

1733
01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:35,719
Speaker 2: And walk down the walk down the Santa Monica pier.

1734
01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:40,559
Speaker 4: And then the reason that they're doing this they're out

1735
01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:43,960
Speaker 4: at the beach is because Brian has invited Sueellen to

1736
01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:47,599
Speaker 4: see the Grunion run. And if that wasn't the height

1737
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:52,600
Speaker 4: of young teenage dating dreams as a kid, to be

1738
01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:55,800
Speaker 4: kissed under a pier while fish are flopping around at

1739
01:22:55,800 --> 01:23:01,280
Speaker 4: your feet, it is a classic fucking scene. I didn't

1740
01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:03,639
Speaker 4: know where Grunion were then, I don't know where Grunion

1741
01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:04,080
Speaker 4: are now.

1742
01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 1: I thought it was something to do with motorcycles. I

1743
01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:10,840
Speaker 1: had no idea what he was talking about.

1744
01:23:12,680 --> 01:23:14,839
Speaker 4: I could not figure it out. And I was like, okay,

1745
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:19,840
Speaker 4: like this is romance in California. Great, but it is

1746
01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:21,120
Speaker 4: a classic scene for sure.

1747
01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:23,879
Speaker 2: Yeah. I won't ruin the ending.

1748
01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:27,040
Speaker 4: But I will say that there is a moment where

1749
01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:29,960
Speaker 4: Suwellyn has to think fast on her feet about how

1750
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:32,080
Speaker 4: she's going to make up for all the money that

1751
01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:37,080
Speaker 4: she's taken, and she uses this event to do it.

1752
01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:39,120
Speaker 4: This event that Rose needs to put on to impress

1753
01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:42,200
Speaker 4: her boss, and she does it by throwing the event

1754
01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:44,880
Speaker 4: at her house and hiring all of her friends and

1755
01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:45,719
Speaker 4: Kenny's friends.

1756
01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:50,960
Speaker 2: And Kenny is one of the best characters in this movie.

1757
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:55,040
Speaker 2: To me, this is a guy who, when asked.

1758
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:57,160
Speaker 4: To do the dishes, goes up on his roof with

1759
01:23:57,240 --> 01:24:01,200
Speaker 4: a gun and his friends and basically skeets, shoots the

1760
01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:04,760
Speaker 4: dishes and says the dishes are done.

1761
01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:05,120
Speaker 2: Man.

1762
01:24:06,680 --> 01:24:09,439
Speaker 1: That that was a That was a big moment of

1763
01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:11,759
Speaker 1: the trailer, Like that was anytime I saw the trailer

1764
01:24:11,800 --> 01:24:14,719
Speaker 1: for this movie, that was the part that I saw

1765
01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:16,559
Speaker 1: that made me go, I have to see this movie

1766
01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:18,439
Speaker 1: because it's written for people of my.

1767
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:22,960
Speaker 4: Age completely, and he is just like he's pissing off

1768
01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:28,879
Speaker 4: of buildings. He's stoned all the time, and he starts

1769
01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:31,520
Speaker 4: because this is it's kind of a great natural progression

1770
01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:34,360
Speaker 4: because they show him sitting on the couch with Walter,

1771
01:24:34,520 --> 01:24:38,160
Speaker 4: his younger brother, watching TV because he's stoned, and they're

1772
01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:41,160
Speaker 4: watching Juliet Child, and he gets really into like trying

1773
01:24:41,160 --> 01:24:42,920
Speaker 4: to cook because he.

1774
01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:47,000
Speaker 2: Starts making these like gourmet delicacys for his stoner friends,

1775
01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:50,120
Speaker 2: which is wonderful. It's just it's just a nice evolution.

1776
01:24:50,360 --> 01:24:54,080
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I love that scene where you know,

1777
01:24:54,640 --> 01:24:59,040
Speaker 1: obviously as the movie goes on and they have to

1778
01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:01,439
Speaker 1: put on this show because that's what I love about

1779
01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:05,280
Speaker 1: teen movies and and sort of like you know, comedies

1780
01:25:05,280 --> 01:25:08,240
Speaker 1: of this era that either end in a fashion show

1781
01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:10,479
Speaker 1: or ended a big event, and then it's like we

1782
01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:12,320
Speaker 1: all got to put on a show. Let's all get

1783
01:25:12,360 --> 01:25:15,320
Speaker 1: together and clean up the house or like you know,

1784
01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:17,760
Speaker 1: do all the things, and we'll get all of our

1785
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:21,200
Speaker 1: friends involved, all these like side characters in these kids'

1786
01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:23,880
Speaker 1: lives come together and help them do this big event. Right,

1787
01:25:24,360 --> 01:25:28,160
Speaker 1: And at a certain point, Kenny, you know, has to

1788
01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:31,720
Speaker 1: clean up his look in order to like be the

1789
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:35,080
Speaker 1: head waiter for his sister's event. And there's a scene

1790
01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:38,240
Speaker 1: before that where he like does the whole like he's

1791
01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:40,880
Speaker 1: it's really cute, where he she comes home from a

1792
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:43,400
Speaker 1: long day at work and he's like the put upon

1793
01:25:43,479 --> 01:25:46,080
Speaker 1: housewife character is like, you know, you should have just

1794
01:25:46,160 --> 01:25:48,840
Speaker 1: called because I had dinner waiting. I just fed the

1795
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:51,559
Speaker 1: kids and we don't even go out to dinner anymore.

1796
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:55,280
Speaker 1: And then you know, Christine applegates characters basically like, well,

1797
01:25:55,320 --> 01:25:56,840
Speaker 1: I sit in Gridlock all day.

1798
01:25:56,840 --> 01:26:00,640
Speaker 2: It was cute. I was really asorable. It was so adorable.

1799
01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:03,280
Speaker 2: And his cleanup moment is a real gleaming the cube

1800
01:26:03,320 --> 01:26:08,880
Speaker 2: cleanup moment. Yes, it's like this guy, it's a real

1801
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:10,599
Speaker 2: broken glass in the sink moment.

1802
01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:14,559
Speaker 3: Listen, I let it be known. I'm sure this is

1803
01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:15,439
Speaker 3: widely known.

1804
01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:19,439
Speaker 1: Maybe not, but like Keith Coogan was in not one,

1805
01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:25,120
Speaker 1: but two famous babysitting movies because he was an Adventures

1806
01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:29,440
Speaker 1: in Babysitting and this film, and that is quite a feat.

1807
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:33,840
Speaker 4: A beautiful thing and hilariously kind of well, he doesn't

1808
01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:36,120
Speaker 4: play the same guy in both movies, but he does

1809
01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:38,639
Speaker 4: play like a kind of shitty younger brother in both movies.

1810
01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:41,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, that just it's so amazing, Like, what are the

1811
01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:45,400
Speaker 1: odds of the same actor appearing in two like legendary

1812
01:26:45,560 --> 01:26:47,040
Speaker 1: movies about babysitting.

1813
01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:48,799
Speaker 3: That's kind of amazing, right.

1814
01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:51,519
Speaker 2: It's fantastic. It's beautiful and I love it.

1815
01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:54,360
Speaker 4: And he has you know, he has friends that can

1816
01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:59,320
Speaker 4: do guitar ice sculptures, like everyone's getting a little glow

1817
01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:02,479
Speaker 4: up at this event, and it's great, and it's just

1818
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:05,040
Speaker 4: it's such a great it's a great teen movie.

1819
01:27:05,160 --> 01:27:06,320
Speaker 2: It's a great summer movie.

1820
01:27:06,520 --> 01:27:08,280
Speaker 4: It's a great looks like a pump feels like a

1821
01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:11,639
Speaker 4: sneaker movie because you're watching someone who is seventeen years

1822
01:27:11,680 --> 01:27:15,360
Speaker 4: old basically run a corporate event and run a corporation.

1823
01:27:15,479 --> 01:27:19,799
Speaker 1: Well, oh man, it's so great when you watch Christina

1824
01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:22,120
Speaker 1: Applegate kind of teach herself how to be a woman,

1825
01:27:22,320 --> 01:27:24,240
Speaker 1: when she's like looking in magazines on how to do

1826
01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:26,880
Speaker 1: her hair, and she's going through her mom's closet and

1827
01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:29,600
Speaker 1: she's always like you know, the fashion montage where she's like, no,

1828
01:27:29,800 --> 01:27:33,120
Speaker 1: not this dress, but this one, and it's it was

1829
01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:36,679
Speaker 1: so mesmerizing watching it as a kid because I was like.

1830
01:27:36,600 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 3: Oh, I would love to be her.

1831
01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:41,719
Speaker 1: I want an adult job in fashion when I'm her age.

1832
01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:45,200
Speaker 4: I loved it, and she looked she does, you know,

1833
01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:48,120
Speaker 4: she kind of she designs a little bit at the end.

1834
01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:52,240
Speaker 4: The show is all her vision and she and Franklin

1835
01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:55,120
Speaker 4: a great another character actor, but another great.

1836
01:27:55,160 --> 01:27:57,080
Speaker 3: Actor, Sadie Lassek.

1837
01:27:57,160 --> 01:28:00,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he's fantastic, and they put to get in

1838
01:28:00,280 --> 01:28:03,439
Speaker 4: this fashion show that I can only describe as like

1839
01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:12,840
Speaker 4: harlequin chic. And it's a really funny moment where she

1840
01:28:12,920 --> 01:28:15,000
Speaker 4: kind of has to move things along very quickly and

1841
01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:17,960
Speaker 4: she's like, thank you think you con her friends starts

1842
01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:23,640
Speaker 4: like doing thed her friends who are all the models,

1843
01:28:24,360 --> 01:28:27,880
Speaker 4: starts doing the running man, like really fast down the runway.

1844
01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:28,400
Speaker 2: It is.

1845
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:33,679
Speaker 4: Those moments that I fucking love, Like I just love

1846
01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:39,280
Speaker 4: little moments like that of just like very clearcut comedy

1847
01:28:39,600 --> 01:28:40,280
Speaker 4: from my youth.

1848
01:28:40,479 --> 01:28:42,040
Speaker 2: But it was it's a really funny movie.

1849
01:28:42,040 --> 01:28:44,400
Speaker 4: I think it's again this is one of the only

1850
01:28:44,439 --> 01:28:47,360
Speaker 4: movies from my youth that I would probably show kids today.

1851
01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:52,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and actually it's funny because I actually think it

1852
01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:55,720
Speaker 1: is really funny, like it it sort of holds up

1853
01:28:55,720 --> 01:28:58,519
Speaker 1: in the comedy way, like you know, as much as

1854
01:28:58,520 --> 01:29:00,240
Speaker 1: it's a teen movie, and you know it was kind

1855
01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:03,759
Speaker 1: of mass marketed for teenagers at the time. It's actually

1856
01:29:03,800 --> 01:29:07,879
Speaker 1: funny and it has, like, like you said, great one lighters,

1857
01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:10,519
Speaker 1: just really legit funny moments, and like the you know,

1858
01:29:10,720 --> 01:29:13,800
Speaker 1: Keith Coogan and Christina Applegate and all these people like

1859
01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:16,560
Speaker 1: they they're great actors and they've got comic chaps.

1860
01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:19,000
Speaker 3: So it's awesome that.

1861
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:21,800
Speaker 4: Santa Barbara line is one of the funniest jokes, which

1862
01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:23,800
Speaker 4: as a kid, I did not pick up on, but

1863
01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:25,840
Speaker 4: I was laughing for like five minutes.

1864
01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:27,559
Speaker 2: When I heard it. This time when Rose is like,

1865
01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:30,120
Speaker 2: have you ever had a forty eight hour orgasm? And

1866
01:29:30,520 --> 01:29:32,920
Speaker 2: Swell just goes, no, I've never been to Santa Barbara. Like,

1867
01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:37,960
Speaker 2: it's such a great because she's seventeen. I'm just not

1868
01:29:38,040 --> 01:29:40,280
Speaker 2: going to talk about her non existent sex lives, which

1869
01:29:40,280 --> 01:29:41,200
Speaker 2: she's like, no, I've never been a.

1870
01:29:41,160 --> 01:29:45,439
Speaker 3: Standupar Oh my god, it's so funny, so funny.

1871
01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:46,639
Speaker 2: I love it. I love it.

1872
01:29:46,760 --> 01:29:48,960
Speaker 4: I think it's and it's a good movie as we

1873
01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:52,559
Speaker 4: start kicking off a nice summer where we can go outside.

1874
01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:56,560
Speaker 1: Perfect. Yes, I love that you picked it. I was

1875
01:29:56,600 --> 01:30:00,120
Speaker 1: glad to have watched it again and totally fits the theme.

1876
01:30:00,160 --> 01:30:01,679
Speaker 1: Looks like a pump, feels like a sneaker.

1877
01:30:01,960 --> 01:30:02,439
Speaker 3: It's great.

1878
01:30:02,640 --> 01:30:05,240
Speaker 4: Well, that was a great episode, super fun. I loved

1879
01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:06,479
Speaker 4: watching both of these movies.

1880
01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:09,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was so great.

1881
01:30:10,200 --> 01:30:13,280
Speaker 1: So we actually don't have an episode next week, although

1882
01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:16,679
Speaker 1: there will be a bonus episode going up on July eighth,

1883
01:30:16,760 --> 01:30:17,640
Speaker 1: so look out for that.

1884
01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:18,559
Speaker 2: Get on that.

1885
01:30:18,680 --> 01:30:22,120
Speaker 1: Disher Premium tip if you haven't already. So, our next

1886
01:30:22,160 --> 01:30:25,519
Speaker 1: episode will be on the thirteenth, and Danielle, once you

1887
01:30:25,560 --> 01:30:27,120
Speaker 1: give the listeners the movies for that.

1888
01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:32,599
Speaker 4: Our movies for the next regular episode are Natural Born

1889
01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:36,679
Speaker 4: Killers from nineteen ninety four and California from nineteen ninety three.

1890
01:30:37,320 --> 01:30:42,240
Speaker 2: Oh California with a K, What hell it is? Guess

1891
01:30:42,240 --> 01:30:43,960
Speaker 2: the theme? Guess the theme?

1892
01:30:44,479 --> 01:30:48,720
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1898
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Speaker 4: On those weeks where we don't have a new episode

1899
01:31:04,880 --> 01:31:07,519
Speaker 4: going up, like next week, we won't have anything up

1900
01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:09,479
Speaker 4: on Tuesday, but you can listen to a new to

1901
01:31:09,560 --> 01:31:11,080
Speaker 4: You episode on Thursday.

1902
01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:13,559
Speaker 3: Check us out all right.

1903
01:31:13,680 --> 01:31:19,439
Speaker 1: Well, on that note, Danielle as always such a pleasure listen.

1904
01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:22,960
Speaker 1: Being with you looks like a pump and feels like

1905
01:31:22,960 --> 01:31:25,599
Speaker 1: a sneaker, And for that, I thank you.

1906
01:31:25,720 --> 01:31:36,760
Speaker 2: I'm grateful for our friendship always. Bye.

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01:31:38,120 --> 01:31:41,599
Speaker 4: This has been an exactly right production. Our producers Alexisa Marissi,

1908
01:31:41,760 --> 01:31:44,719
Speaker 4: Our engineers on Alyse Nelson. Our theme songs by Tom

1909
01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:48,400
Speaker 4: bry Foegel. Artwork by Garrett Ross. Our executive producers are

1910
01:31:48,520 --> 01:31:51,920
Speaker 4: Georgia Hartstar, Karen Till, Gareth and Danielle Kramer. Follow us

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01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:55,120
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1913
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1914
01:32:00,439 --> 01:32:21,000
Speaker 2: Apple Podcast, Stitcher or wherever you listen. The dishes are done, dude,