1 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: It is. This is the Miller Like Cowboys House, supported 2 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:12,239 Speaker 1: by Albertson and Omni Hotels and Resorts. Brought to you 3 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: by Miller Light, the only Beer of the Cowboys, Albertson's 4 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:20,159 Speaker 1: and Tom Thumbs, the official supermarket and pharmacy of the 5 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys, and by Geico fifteen minutes could save you 6 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: fifteen percent or more on car in shirts. Now, your hosts, 7 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: Danny Serek and Brad Sham, this is this is the 8 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: Miller Like Cowboys House, supported by Albertson and Omni Hotels 9 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: and reason brought to you by Miller Lite, the only 10 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,639 Speaker 1: beer of the Cowboys. Thank you very much for joining 11 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: us on the Cowboys Hour are usually most of the 12 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: time Monday night stop during the season, and we like 13 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: to say we are delighted to have you, whether you're 14 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: listening to us on the Dallas Cowboys Radio Network or 15 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 1: if you are joining us streamed on Dallas Cowboys dot com. Now, 16 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: if you are joining us streamed on Dallas, what are 17 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: they Seeing's not us? No, not us right now. And 18 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to tell all of you why in a minute. 19 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: But a mothership. What are they seeing right now? If 20 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: they try to log into Dallas Cowboys dot Com at 21 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: the moment. Well, they don't. They don't put it up live, 22 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: do they do they on the website? I think they do. 23 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: They do well. I don't know what you're seeing. But 24 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: hopefully this is like doing a radio show, and I've 25 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: done that all my life. So I can do that, 26 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: and I can say I think, well, I know I 27 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: can say it. Whether I get a response or not, 28 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: we'll find out if we say hello to Cowboys cornerback 29 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: Anthony Brown, ab how are you abe? You just made 30 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: my day? Just made my day. Now. I haven't seen 31 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: Anthony since now, I haven't seen Anthony since last year, 32 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: and I miss seeing you, pal. But how how are 33 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: you feeling? No? Hanging in there, and you know it's 34 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: trying to get health, can get better, all right, So 35 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: let me just take everyone behind the curtain just for 36 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: a moment. So this obviously is a COVID year. Normally, 37 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: in past years, we would be doing this in a 38 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: restaurant setting and we would be welcoming fans live and 39 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: you'd be getting your picture taken with Anthony Brown at 40 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: some point to see me. We can't do that this year, 41 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: Thank you COVID, And so this year, Danny and I 42 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: are are in a studio at the Star and the 43 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 1: players have been in a different room in a different 44 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,679 Speaker 1: part of the Cowboys complex where we're nowhere near each 45 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: other because we're not allowed to be, and so we 46 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: have a camera hook up so we can see each other. 47 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: But that's not the case tonight because the thanks to 48 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: the pandemic around the country, all NFL teams except the 49 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 1: ones who were originally scheduled to play today, yesterday and 50 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: today are shut out of their buildings. The buildings are 51 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: shut down, and the idea, I believe was that if 52 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: anybody was exposed over Thanksgiving to people, then there was 53 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: time for that to kind of get out of the system, 54 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: maintain the protocols, and by Wednesday you could come back. So, Anthony, 55 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: where are you right now? I mean, are you on 56 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: your are sitting in the kitchen table? Are you sitting 57 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: in your sofa? What are you doing sitting? Um, it's 58 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: just a study in the study room. Very good? Okay? 59 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: Are you comfortable? Yes? A boy? Okay? So, UM, so 60 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: we are we have this um apparently complicated UM zoom 61 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 1: link communication that um we're all supposed to dial into. 62 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: And that's how Danny and I and Anthony we're gonna 63 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: see each other and for whatever reason, that's not working 64 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: right now. But that's okay because we're talking to each 65 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: other and we're talking to you, and so Anthony said 66 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: a minute ago, he was trying to heal up. So 67 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: obviously missed the game the other day because of a 68 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: rib injuries at the same injury that had you on 69 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: I are earlier in the year. Yes, it is, it 70 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: is and is it better yet? Um, I really can't 71 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: say right now, I really can't say. You can't you're 72 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: not allowed to say, or you don't know pretty pretty 73 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: much both pretty much? Okay, okay, got to be frustrating 74 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 1: for you got a new contract, uh, one of the leaders, 75 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: one of the veterans in the room, and the team 76 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 1: obviously needs you and you can't be out there is 77 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: just killing you, oh for sure, for sure, you know, 78 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: especially Thanksgiving Day, you know, watching watching those guys go 79 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: out there in battle and not come up with the wum. 80 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: It was it was heart crushing. And um, so people 81 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 1: understand what you were just saying. You were watching them 82 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 1: because when you're when you're injured, you're not allowed to 83 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: be at the stadium. Right, well, I think you if 84 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: you are i R, you're not allowed. But if yeah, 85 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: if you are, you're not allowed. But if you're not 86 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: on IR, you I was there. I was at the game. 87 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: Oh you were okay. Earlier in the year when you 88 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: were on IR you were not allowed to be at 89 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: the games, right, okay, but you were there and got 90 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: to see it all in beautiful living color. Um. So, 91 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: one other thing that I think I ought to throw 92 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 1: out right now, and I want Anthony's thoughts about this. So, 93 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 1: as you all know, the Cowboys schedule, which came out 94 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: in April, said they were going to play on Thanksgiving 95 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: and then they were going to play this coming Thursday 96 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: against the Baltimore Ravens in Baltimore, which met today. Would 97 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: have been Thursday because the seven Day clock sits in. 98 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: But wait, you want to do this because I don't 99 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 1: think I can keep track of it. Poor Brad was 100 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: so confused when I was explaining all of these different games. 101 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: I really think it's above my pay grade. I think 102 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: it's above my pay grade. Yes, So, the Cowboys were 103 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: supposed to play originally Thursday, and then that got moved 104 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: to Monday because because of the outbreak in Baltimore and 105 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 1: their game against Pittsburgh. Oh gosh, stay with me, Bradmore. Oh, 106 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: this is it. This is what I wanted you to do. 107 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: I'm count Baltimore's game against Pittsburgh, which was supposed to 108 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 1: be tomorrow Tuesday. No, no, it was supposed to be Thanksgiving. Yes, 109 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 1: take me back a step further, Thanksgiving. Okay. Then it 110 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: got rescheduled for tomorrow to yesterday. Oh, now I'm confused 111 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: it did? It got rescheduled? Oh? Many? Are you up 112 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: on this Sunday? Right? Then they rescheduled it again to Tuesday. Okay, 113 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: That's where I'm at, right, And now it's Wednesday afternoon 114 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: because they have to show the tree lighting exactly right, 115 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: That's exactly what's happening, folks. You're right. I confuse myself 116 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: on that. See. So, uh so the Cowboys game with 117 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: Baltimore was going to be Thursday, then it was going 118 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: to be Monday at four o'clock Central time, and now 119 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: it's going to be god willing Tuesday night of next week, 120 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: December eighth, at seven o'clock Central time. Now I know 121 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: that I'm having a heck of a time keeping track 122 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: of all that. And Abe I'm just gonna pretend for 123 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: a minute that your ribs are gonna heal and you're 124 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: gonna be getting ready to play whenever you're let back 125 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: into building. Whether that's true or not, just play along. 126 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: So all this is happening, right as a player, how 127 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: do you react to them? I mean, you really just 128 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: gotta you just gotta adjust. You you gotta be able 129 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: to adjust to any circumstance and the situations that come up. 130 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: This year. You know, it's been a crazy year ever 131 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: since the beginning. So anything happened now shouldn't even surprise 132 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: anybody in my eyes. And you just should just keep 133 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: gotta keep going with the flow and just learn how 134 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: to adjust. And I saw this will be the first 135 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: Tuesday game Enfranchise history for the Cowboys. I mean, anything's 136 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: possible in twenty twenty at this point. Apparently no, which 137 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 1: is crazy. They have actually played on a Wednesday. And 138 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 1: obviously they played on Mondays and Thursdays and Saturdays, and 139 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: they played on Friday. Oh yeah, in preseason they would 140 00:08:55,960 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: have played some. But so this is the first Wednesday Tuesday. 141 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not trying to be stupid. I just 142 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: said Tuesday be the first Tuesday game in Cowboys history. Okay, So, um, 143 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: Anthony Brown, Um, you what month did you sign your 144 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 1: new contract? Um? March just before the shutdown, just to 145 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: be right before and it had just shut down. So 146 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: but you anticipated before before the lockdown? Were you anticipating 147 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: that you were going to get that done and you 148 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: were going to be jumping back in or did it again? 149 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: It did? It didn't sneak up on you, right, I 150 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 1: mean you kind of you thought the contract was gonna 151 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 1: get done and you'd be jumping back in. Well, I 152 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: just knew, um that Tom frame, you know when contract 153 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: using time was in that in that Tom frame, and 154 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 1: then the COVID stuff just hit at the same time 155 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: pretty much and everything left out. Though I was able 156 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: to stand down there when my family was already here, 157 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: so everything pretty much worked out for itself. I mean, 158 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: can you just just take me back to them? Not 159 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: as you said a minute ago right now. Everybody had 160 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: to learn how to adjust back. Take me back to them. 161 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: When the world lockdown, you just resigned. What was that like? 162 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: It was a little different because even signing the contract, 163 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: you know, nobody was in the building. It was very quiet, 164 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: and it was just different. I can't even explain the 165 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:33,959 Speaker 1: feeling because I never felt it before. It was just different. 166 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: And I was supposed to go home and see my family. 167 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: I wasn't able to go home. So I've been. I've 168 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: been in Dallas the whole year. Um, no family has 169 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: been all year. I didn't have any family for Thanksgiving 170 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: this year. Um, it's just been different all year. It's 171 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: been a different year. Um. Yeah, that's that's ridiculous. Okay, 172 00:10:54,840 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: one one more thing on this subject in the when 173 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 1: we'll take our break and we'll we'll move on to 174 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: some other things. But obviously last week was horrific with 175 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 1: the passing of Marcus Paul and we've tried to make 176 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: clear to everyone how close players have to be to 177 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 1: the strength and conditioning coach. How as a as a 178 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: football team, how did you deal with that? I really 179 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: can't say. You know, everybody deal with things different, you know. UM, 180 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: I was very I was very close to the markets 181 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: coach Marcus because he was a dB guy and he 182 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: was always on the DBS a lot. So I spent 183 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: a lot of time with coach Marcus and even dating 184 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: back to last year rehabbing from my trsept injury. You know, 185 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: he was that every day, making shore I get back 186 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: right and m you know, it was just sad, you know, 187 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: and it was it was just something like I said, 188 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,079 Speaker 1: this year, it's been crazy, man, just stuff that you 189 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: releast expect. And I wasn't there to see it, and 190 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: I'm glad I wasn't. And I really don't know how 191 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: to say, how to how to how the other players 192 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: resp to it, because I don't know how I would 193 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: have responded if I thought my own us well. Anthony Brown, 194 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,959 Speaker 1: the Cowboys cornerback trying to heal up from a ribby 195 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: injury and trying to help us figure out what day 196 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: of the week it is, is our guest on the 197 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: Cowboys Hour. We're going to talk about life and football 198 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: when we come back, and not COVID and scheduling and 199 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: things of that nature. Delighted to have everybody with us, however, 200 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: you're joining us, and if I haven't said it yet, Ab, 201 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: thank you. I really appreciate your time tonight. Great to 202 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: have you with us. Now we will take a break 203 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 1: by reminding you that the Miller Like Cowboys Hour is 204 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 1: brought to you in part by Albertson's. When it comes 205 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: time to shop, for tailgate favorites, go to Albertson's and 206 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,959 Speaker 1: Tom Thumb. Get ten percent off your groceries every Dallas 207 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 1: Cowboys game day when you wear your Cowboys jersey. Albertson's 208 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: and Tom Thumb, the official supermarket and pharmacy of the 209 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys, and by Lou Casey, the official bootmaker of 210 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders. We'll be right back with Anthony 211 00:13:01,559 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: Brown on the Cowboys Hour to the Miller Like Cowboys 212 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: Hour supported by Albertsons and Omni Hotels and Resorts. We 213 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: can't move past when the game is. I believe it's 214 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: Tuesday night at seven o'clock. Am I right? Yes? As 215 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: of today, as of this second, it's changed already several times. Um. So, 216 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: Anthony Brown is rehabbing a rib injury and trying to 217 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: get himself ready to play again. And so an interesting 218 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: question came up on our flagships station in Dallas Ford Worth, 219 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: aybe a little earlier. Guys who don't play. We're debating 220 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: what to do for the rest of the season with 221 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: injured players, especially veterans like yourself, Zack Martin. You have 222 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: different injuries, but guys who hopefully might be able to 223 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: come back. Should they rush those guys back or just 224 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: play younger players? From the standpoint of a veteran player, 225 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: if it comes to the point, which it hasn't yet, 226 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: that there's mathematically nothing to play for, what would be 227 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,959 Speaker 1: your take on that? Is a guy trying to rehab 228 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 1: an injury, I say, it depends. It depends on an injury, 229 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: and depends how severe it is. I say, if you 230 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 1: could play, I say, you play if you if you 231 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 1: can't play it and don't play, Yeah, that's pretty much 232 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: how I see it. So if you're healthy enough, regardless 233 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 1: of the standings you're saying you want to play, right, 234 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: Like I said, it depends on how bad is the jury, 235 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: what's you what you're dealing with? And that makes sense 236 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 1: I feel like too. A lot of fans are already 237 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: starting to talk about if mathematically you're not in this 238 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: to a certain point, you know, they start getting excited 239 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,400 Speaker 1: about draft picks and looking way too far ahead, And 240 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 1: that's just not something that comes across your mind as 241 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 1: an athlete. Right is, you don't want to play for 242 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 1: a draft pick next year. You're playing to win right now? Yeah, 243 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: then tomorrow, Clearly tomorrow's not promised, and we don't know 244 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 1: what's the future. Hole, So I say, I say, you play. 245 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: So let's talk about the defense a little bit. It's 246 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: been clearly a struggle all year, and also clearly things 247 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: have improved somewhat. There's been a little stretch, and I 248 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: would include most of the second Washington game most of 249 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: it that the defense has obviously been playing at a 250 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: higher level. You're a veteran, Uh. I think you're the 251 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: most veteran guy in the dB room, aren't you. Aren't 252 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: you more veteran than than DT. We became in the 253 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: same year, same year. Okay, so you share that. Um, 254 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: So what's your view on the way the defense has progressed? 255 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: And UM what some of the issues were earlier in 256 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: the year. I just think, you know, we kind of 257 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: just coming into a new defense, you know, a new 258 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 1: coaching staff and everybody just trying to get to know 259 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 1: each other. Fel fill each other outfiel our vibes and 260 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: our energy communication, you know. Um. And that's that was 261 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: more to growing pains in the early at the beginning 262 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: of the year. And I feel like later on we 263 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: starting to talk more, we start in the players one 264 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 1: a little bit more and understand what the coaches are 265 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: expecting from us, and I think it's getting is getting 266 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: better every week. We still got any room for approvement. 267 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: We still have plenty things we need to do, but 268 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: I feel like we're starting to pick up on things 269 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: a little bit. And when you Jalen Smith had a 270 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: press phone call today and he's talked about it various 271 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 1: of you have on defense about communication. You just alluded 272 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: to it. What fans, I'm not sure really understand what 273 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: that means. When you talk about communication changing and being different. 274 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 1: How how has it been different than from other years. 275 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 1: It's just communication. It's it's it's it could be some 276 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 1: simple as them. You might call a route, you might 277 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: call a route something, but then another coach might call 278 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 1: it something else. So simple stuff like that, It just 279 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: thinks we got to get on the same page with 280 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 1: And then also when you are on the field during 281 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: own game day, you know you got there's no crowd 282 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: right now, but things move pretty fast when you're on 283 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: the field, so you got to be able to talk 284 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: to your your teammate next to you real quick, and 285 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: y'all both got to understand what each other is saying 286 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 1: before the ball is now and so you both planed 287 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 1: same defense. Whether it's that communication or style of play. 288 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 1: What's been the biggest adjustment for you this year under 289 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 1: this new staff. Um, pretty much just just you know, UM, 290 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 1: just trying to make sure everybody else, make sure every 291 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: in the in the secondary, make sure every the other 292 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 1: guys in the secondary. We all try to play as 293 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 1: one and just try to stay on top of everything 294 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: and don't lose focus. That's pretty much been my biggest thing. 295 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,719 Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, as a corner, 296 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 1: I'm doing the same thing regardless. I'm just I'm covering 297 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: guys and UM, it wasn't it's no big change from 298 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: coach to coach because I'm still doing the same thing. 299 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: It's just got to make sure everybody else understand. Like 300 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 1: now I would say I work more with my safeties 301 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 1: now in this defense that I did in the past. 302 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 1: So that could be my biggest challenge in what I'm 303 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: sure Denny in what way? Abe just like communicating a 304 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: certain a certain play and saying like, Okay, are you 305 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 1: gonna be here, You're gonna what we're doing on this 306 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: Like it's it's it's a lot of small talk before 307 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 1: the snap that changed this year from from the past. 308 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,959 Speaker 1: You kind of just hinted out going back to the 309 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: basics of when you're thinking about all the things that 310 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: I've changed. Was that something that you or you guys 311 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 1: as a group or team had the discussion about is 312 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 1: when you guys were struggling in the first half of 313 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: the season of Okay, let's take a step back and 314 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: let's get back to the basics. Yeah, we definitely always 315 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: try to every week, even if we want to lose, 316 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: no matter what, we want to go back to the basis, 317 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 1: review everything so we don't lose focus of it and 318 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 1: we don't forget them, forget those things because the basics, 319 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 1: this is what's going to get us in the deep 320 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. So we always want to refer back 321 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 1: to the basis. We always want to make sure we 322 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: own our p's and q's and everything, and that's definitely 323 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: one of the things we try to drill in our 324 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: heads every week, just fundamentals and you know, just taking 325 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,719 Speaker 1: one player at a time and don't try to be 326 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: a superhero. Is it difficult when you guys are going 327 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: through struggles, even if not after you know, recently, Defense 328 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 1: has played much better when things are having to be 329 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: virtual and you're having to go over things and talk 330 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: about going back to the basics, but you might not 331 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 1: be able to physically have practice. What you guys have 332 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: had to deal with a couple of times this year already, 333 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 1: is that just more difficult having to do it all virtually? 334 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 1: We um, I mean since the season started, we've pretty 335 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: much been face to face this our first week having 336 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: virtual meetings with the Cowboys, thank god, deep in the 337 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: deep in season, but definitely with no OTAs and no 338 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 1: um you know all season those virtual meetings. Yeah, that 339 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 1: was totally different. And that's another reason why I feel 340 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: like the season started the way it did, because that 341 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 1: was our first time I want to feel together as 342 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 1: one was game one. It wasn't though. We didn't get 343 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 1: no practice and no reps beforehand, no preseason to see 344 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 1: where we were. So I would say that, so you've 345 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 1: you've validated the feeling I have that there is value 346 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,400 Speaker 1: to preseason games. Now is when you were a rookie, 347 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: you needed those games to be able to play special teams, right, correct, 348 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 1: And now you're an established veteran and you still have 349 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: a role on special teams. But do you do you 350 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: agree that one thing we have learned from this year 351 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 1: is that even if it's only two, there is value 352 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: to even returning players, to having a couple of preseason games. Yeah, 353 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: it's definitely value to have a game or two before 354 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: the regular season because you don't want your first snap 355 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: being being game one and it's for real. You want 356 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: to get out there and see, you know, field of personnel, 357 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: feel the defense, what you got out there, who a 358 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: you're working with. You want to know all those things 359 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: before the bullets really get the flying, and you want 360 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: to know and feel comfortable and confident and confident about it. 361 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: With this new coaching staff, I mean, this team, along 362 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 1: with really every team, has dealt with adversity and you know, 363 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,199 Speaker 1: day to day life and preparation for games, and this 364 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 1: Cowboys team specifically has dealt with a ton of injuries 365 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: in our s edual changes. What's impressed you about Mike 366 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,360 Speaker 1: McCarthy or this new coaching staff in general with how 367 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: they have handled these adversities and kept this team focused 368 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 1: or impressed me the most? You know, he just never 369 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: he never, he never give up, and he always he's 370 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: always going to keep going them out of the circumstances 371 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: of what's thrown at him, you know, um, you know, 372 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: the media, whatever, media saying, whatever, anybody's saying. Because McCartney 373 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: he loves his players and he's gonna he's gonna ride 374 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: for his players. And that's what I really love about him. 375 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 1: Let's talk about injuries and how you deal with not 376 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: your own. Everybody, I think knows how players deal with 377 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 1: their own injuries when every tree in the forest is 378 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:50,360 Speaker 1: falling around you. I mean, everybody gets injuries. There's there's 379 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: teams have them every year. Um, and I think there's 380 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: been more of them this year because of the absence 381 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: of the offseason, the conditioning and programs in the preseason 382 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: game games. But now your side of the ball has 383 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: been hit maybe a little less hard. Uh. You lost 384 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 1: you were out a couple of times. Now Cheeto was out, 385 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: you lost vander ash for several weeks, and now Digs 386 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: and uh pretty much oh and then and and um 387 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:22,360 Speaker 1: and the defensive tackle hill. Uh. Now, other than that, 388 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 1: that's that almost sounds when I say it out loud, aby, 389 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 1: it sounds terrible. But compared to the offense, it looks 390 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 1: like we lost McCoy too. In the beginning that he 391 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: didn't even make well, yeah, you know, yeah, that's that's right. 392 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 1: And and we never got to see him. Maybe that's 393 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: why I forgot about him. That was the first practice. 394 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:45,120 Speaker 1: Um but what what what is that like? Dealing with 395 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: all the injuries around you when you have to I 396 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 1: know all about next man up, But that kind of 397 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: takes it to a different level, doesn't it. It can't. 398 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 1: It's all mental. You gotta just you can't let your 399 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: mind get get to that point. You gotta just keep going. 400 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,959 Speaker 1: And even if a guy go down, it should make 401 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: you want to step up and do more and say, 402 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,679 Speaker 1: I got to pick it up for my guy, my 403 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 1: fauting soldier who just went down. You know, it sucks 404 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 1: and it hurts, you know, we got so many injuries, 405 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 1: but everybody did an injuries. We're not the only team, 406 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: you know, so we can't complain about that. We're learning 407 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: how to do that make you better as a group 408 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: and or individually in future years, I believe. So what 409 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 1: do you say? What do you say to a young 410 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 1: player Trayvon Diggs who's hurt right now, out for a 411 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: couple of weeks, fractured boning his foot, you know, experiencing 412 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: an injury in his rookie year. What do you say 413 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: to him to keep his spirits hop? You know, I 414 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: just tell him just keep working, you know, don't don't 415 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 1: let nothing, don't let nothing alter your confidence. Don't let 416 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: nothing alter your your work ethic that you do every day. 417 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: You know, you might be hurting, you might not be playing, 418 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,479 Speaker 1: but still keep your same routine, keep your same habits up, 419 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 1: and just keep grinding because once you're back, you feel 420 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 1: like you you didn't miss a beat. So that's one 421 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: of the things I'll tell you. Now we're gonna take 422 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:08,919 Speaker 1: a break and when we come back, ab among the 423 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: other things we're gonna do, I want you to tell 424 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 1: us about the cheering section you got over there the 425 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: helper sounds like you've got some outstanding assistance running around 426 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 1: right in the room. Yeah, No, we love it. It's 427 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 1: this is a family show. Anthony Brown is our guest 428 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: this evening on the Cowboys Hour. Miller Like Cowboys Hour, 429 00:28:27,160 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 1: bron to the Miller Like Cowboys Hour, supported by Albertson's 430 00:31:37,880 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: and Omni Hotels and Resorts. I was trying desperately to 431 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 1: fix and rest up and rehabilitate a rib injury so 432 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: he can get back around the field with his buddies 433 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: whenever it is they play. We believe now that it 434 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,719 Speaker 1: is going to be a Tuesday, Danny. Don't look at 435 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: me like that. Danny just looked at me like I've 436 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: told you a hundred times when the game is, it's 437 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: probably going to be changed. And he moved four times today. 438 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 1: It's now Tuesday at seven. Yes, clear your schedule. I've 439 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 1: already put it in my schedule. But I've changed that 440 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: three times. So this is clearly a family show. And 441 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: one of the things I just learned is that Danny's 442 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:48,479 Speaker 1: father is a loyal listener to this program. Sure, well, yes, 443 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: since you started being a Yes, I didn't mean he 444 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: was loyal to the show or to me or anything, 445 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: but you but a proud dad and I get that. 446 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 1: And it's today's birthday, today's birth let's give him a 447 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 1: shout out. What's his name, Brian, Brian Surrect? Yes? And 448 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: do we know how old Brian is today? No, don't 449 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 1: make me say it. Well, write it down and show 450 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: it to me and I'll say it. This is a 451 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 1: lot of math. I'm scared to show you this because 452 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: I think I might be wrong. Well, then we blame 453 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 1: it on me and say that I just said it 454 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 1: in its fifties. Can we just say that? Sure, we 455 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 1: can say whatever you want. And the other thing that 456 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: we found out is that as a proud dad would 457 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: and Anthony Brown understands this, that Brian loves to hear 458 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 1: his daughter's voice on everything, including the Mahendra spots. And 459 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 1: so are are you getting him a Mahendra tractor for 460 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: his I am not unless they're listening and they're going 461 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: to change it. That would be a great birthday gift, 462 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: wouldn't it. Yes? I would love that. I don't think 463 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 1: he has much use for that where we live at 464 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 1: the moment, at the moment, but it would still be 465 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: a pretty nice could work that out. I think that's 466 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: a deal to be worked out. Yes, birthday Dad, this 467 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: is your gift. Yeah, the shout out, Yes Brian, Happy birthday, 468 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 1: Anthony tell Danny's dad, happy birthday, Happy birthday, Brian, go outstanding. 469 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,439 Speaker 1: Now how about that? How about that assistance that you've 470 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,320 Speaker 1: got going on over there in the Brown household? Please? 471 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,879 Speaker 1: I got under control now, my wife she just came 472 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 1: and God, no it wasn't. He wasn't under control. I 473 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,959 Speaker 1: would look like that. We we loved hearing him. What's 474 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,720 Speaker 1: his name? How old is he? The name is Major. 475 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 1: He's on one. He just turned one. In me, that's 476 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 1: my youngest. I have two two boys. I have a 477 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 1: four year old he's Anthony Brown Junior, and I have 478 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 1: a one year old Major. And as soon as you 479 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:47,760 Speaker 1: said major and he just turned one, Danny's face just went, oh, 480 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 1: so cute. What a cute age. Yeah. What's he into? 481 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: What's Major into everything? What is he not into? He's 482 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 1: into everything whatever. Every time I get up, he's following 483 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 1: me everywhere I go. He's trying to get an all 484 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 1: the cabinets, trying to open all the doors. He's in everything. 485 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,240 Speaker 1: Now have you baby prooved to place? Oh? Of course 486 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 1: for sure. I mean I don't mean is it baby proofed? 487 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 1: I mean you personally have you opened up? I have 488 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: to go through everything myself and make sure everything is 489 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:20,720 Speaker 1: secure and locked up. And uh and and how about 490 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:25,439 Speaker 1: Anthony Junior? What's he into? Spider Man? He loves Spider Man. 491 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 1: Anything Spider Man. He's with it. Can't say I blame him. 492 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: Did you were you able to do any kind of 493 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 1: a Halloween? I wasn't because we were on the road 494 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 1: that week. I believe we played Philly that week, but 495 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 1: they went to a Halloween party that that night. Was 496 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 1: he was? He Spider Man, he was? He was. He 497 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 1: loves Spider Man everything. I got a new Spider Man game. 498 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:52,839 Speaker 1: He plays that all the time. A video game? Yeah, 499 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 1: do you play video games? Maybe I used to, not 500 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 1: as much as I used to. I feel like I'm 501 00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,919 Speaker 1: getting back into it now because my son, he's getting 502 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 1: older and he wants to play video games now, so 503 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,439 Speaker 1: I'm getting back into it. But I'm not as big 504 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 1: on video games as I used to be when I 505 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,399 Speaker 1: was younger. Brad's looking at me. I think he wants 506 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: me to tell you the story. I'm sure the fans 507 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 1: who have listened since I've joined the show last couple 508 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 1: of weeks are well aware of this. Antoine Woods basically 509 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 1: challenged me a couple of weeks ago, saying that I 510 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 1: would be terrible at Call of Duty because I don't 511 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:28,359 Speaker 1: play video games and I'm a pretty competitive person. And 512 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 1: so thankfully my brother in law, Scott has two controllers, 513 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 1: and so I've gone over and I've played Call of 514 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 1: Duty before and I was not that bad. How many 515 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 1: times have you played? He's talking to me. Oh no, 516 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,359 Speaker 1: I was talking to Danny just that once, but I 517 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 1: was pretty good. Okay, did you did you play Call 518 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,359 Speaker 1: of Out of how many? I don't know, more than 519 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 1: twenty more than twenty six? Abe, did you play Call 520 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,399 Speaker 1: of Duty? Now, I'm not a bit call of Duty? 521 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 1: I was more of a Matt Matt. And uh, what 522 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 1: sports do you? Madden Football or other sports that you like? Um? 523 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 1: NBA two K? And oh you said that I was 524 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,719 Speaker 1: talking over your NBA two K? Which one are you 525 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:16,799 Speaker 1: better at? Man? Of course? Yeah? Is that weird to 526 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 1: play Madden? Like if you're picking players and teams and 527 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 1: you either play with or against these guys. But like 528 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 1: I said, I haven't I haven't played the game in 529 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 1: a while, so um, but when I were, when I 530 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 1: was playing, it wasn't weird because it's a video game. 531 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 1: I'm not thinking about or I actually know this guy 532 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,359 Speaker 1: and I'm just trying to play the game. I feel 533 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 1: like I would think about that, like, oh, well, this 534 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 1: guy's my friend, like I need to have him on 535 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:43,719 Speaker 1: my team. Well, uh, were you were you ever yourself? Yeah? 536 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 1: Of course definitely. I can't wait to see myself on 537 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:50,879 Speaker 1: the video game. And was that weird? It wasn't weird. 538 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 1: It was just like I couldn't believe it. Really, I've 539 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,799 Speaker 1: heard and I think by the way, I believe Antoine 540 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 1: was one of these people who did not like the 541 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 1: way he was depicted. Yeah. I don't like the way 542 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 1: I look either, but I mean it is what it is, 543 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 1: what they do to you. I just don't like the 544 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,720 Speaker 1: way my face looked on there. I don't like none, 545 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 1: none of it. Did you have you talked to the people? 546 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 1: I haven't. It ain't that big of a deal to me. Okay, good. 547 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 1: So do you watch other sports you just like to 548 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 1: play too? Like? Are you big basketball guy? I love 549 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 1: I love football, baseball, and basketball. So I played baseball 550 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,279 Speaker 1: and football, but I didn't play basketball. But I watched basketball. 551 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,319 Speaker 1: But I did play baseball and football. I notice my 552 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 1: top two sports. But you like hockey too, right, Yeah? 553 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,319 Speaker 1: I watched hockey too a little bit. I actually went 554 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 1: went to a Stars game fe Um when it was 555 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,719 Speaker 1: in the playoffs a few years back when it was 556 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 1: allowed to go to the games. But I can't wait 557 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:48,839 Speaker 1: till we are but to go to the games again. 558 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 1: I'll definitely be at another Stars game. Yeah, you swapped 559 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,839 Speaker 1: jerseys with Jason spots all right when he was still 560 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 1: down star Yep, I still got the jersey. Now, I'm good. 561 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,400 Speaker 1: Did you watch hockey when you were in you went 562 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 1: to high school in Tampa, right, and did you watch 563 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 1: hockey then? Now? I just got into hockey kind of 564 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,359 Speaker 1: when I got here. I wasn't. I'm not a big 565 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 1: hockey fan, but I would do watch it though. Do 566 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 1: you watch it on television too, because that's a hard 567 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 1: television sport. Yeah, I love it. It's just kind of 568 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 1: like football. A lot of collisions and I love you know, 569 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 1: when they're fighting and everything. It's just some excited That's 570 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 1: the only sport that they let you fight, So I 571 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 1: definitely love that. You wish the roads were different than football, Yeah, 572 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,400 Speaker 1: I mean they let you fight in football, but we 573 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,920 Speaker 1: got too many pads on too many helmets. It's pointless 574 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:40,799 Speaker 1: really now, you know that when you say they let 575 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,319 Speaker 1: you fight, nobody realized what I say. They don't let 576 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 1: you fight, but people still fight all the time every play, 577 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,759 Speaker 1: really every play. That was kind of what I was 578 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,720 Speaker 1: getting at because I don't know how you and maybe 579 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,839 Speaker 1: you can help us with this. I don't know how 580 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,279 Speaker 1: you play the position you play because I don't know 581 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:03,759 Speaker 1: WHA's passion deference and what's not pass interference or illegal 582 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 1: contact or what are people talking about? The difficulty trying 583 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,279 Speaker 1: to figure out what to catch? But how do you know? 584 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 1: What do you say to yourself about what it's okay 585 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,920 Speaker 1: to do and not okay to do when you're covering 586 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 1: a game. I mean either day, it's pretty complicated, but 587 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:22,880 Speaker 1: you know you you would know if you if you 588 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:24,920 Speaker 1: really pass an inference a guy or if you was 589 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 1: holding a guy. It's the ones that's in the middle 590 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,319 Speaker 1: in between his tiki taki like certain rests, certain rests 591 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 1: call it, certain rests don't call it. So you just 592 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,759 Speaker 1: got to understand what ref you got ref in the 593 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,920 Speaker 1: game that day, and you got to just go about 594 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 1: it like that. How frustrating is out that you have 595 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,319 Speaker 1: to kind of know who's officiating the game to know 596 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,399 Speaker 1: what you can and can't get away with. I mean, 597 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,239 Speaker 1: that's what comes with our position. You know, everybody got 598 00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:49,920 Speaker 1: to deal with something that their position, and that's what 599 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,439 Speaker 1: we got to deal with an ours, and that's something 600 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 1: we should we have to actually pick up on and 601 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 1: get better at going forward. Do you talk about or 602 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 1: study the tendencies of the officials calling the game that 603 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:09,160 Speaker 1: week in advance to know this guy's gonna call this, 604 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,960 Speaker 1: this guy's gonna let that go. Yeah, Coach McCartney, he 605 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,880 Speaker 1: goes over all the officials before every game and he 606 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,200 Speaker 1: let us know disofficial. You know he'll he'll let you 607 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,800 Speaker 1: play a little bit um disofficial. He has the most 608 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,440 Speaker 1: hold down holding calls, most all side calls, most passing 609 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,360 Speaker 1: deference calls. So he lets us know every game. And 610 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,799 Speaker 1: you feel like that's been helpful in your preparation so 611 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 1: far this year. Yeah, I give you. It gives you 612 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:35,759 Speaker 1: like a heads up and you know you could get 613 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,719 Speaker 1: your mindset and get it right for the game. Be like, Okay, 614 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 1: I know, I know he's going to look for this 615 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,719 Speaker 1: in the game, so let me be conscious about that. 616 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,440 Speaker 1: And it definitely helps. And has there ever been a 617 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:50,239 Speaker 1: case where you, for whatever reason, either you got beat 618 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 1: or you came over late to help and somebody else 619 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 1: got beat, but you knew that I better follow this guy, 620 00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 1: I better like tackle him, I better pull on his 621 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,800 Speaker 1: jersey because otherwise there's there's a fixing the score. Touchdown 622 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 1: you saying with the refs, No, I mean, do you 623 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 1: ever say to yourself, I'm just gonna I got the guys. 624 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:13,399 Speaker 1: He's he's gone if I don't grab him. Oh, I mean, 625 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 1: it haven't came up this year, but I mean if 626 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 1: if that situation came up, then yeah, I do what 627 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 1: I have to do for the team. There you go. 628 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 1: Sometimes taking a penalty is the right thing to do 629 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 1: for the team. Keep that in mind. If he's if 630 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,239 Speaker 1: he's gone, and you gotta are to take a penny 631 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 1: in the touchdown anything. There you go, Brian sharec you 632 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:34,839 Speaker 1: keep that in mind when you're on your tractor out there. 633 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,399 Speaker 1: Sometimes you have to take a penalty for the team. 634 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,759 Speaker 1: We're gonna take our final break and be right back 635 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,719 Speaker 1: with Anthony Brown. The Miller Like Cowboys Hour is brought 636 00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,440 Speaker 1: to you in part by Omni Hotels and Resorts. This fall. 637 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 1: Do more than just stay apart, stay a part of 638 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,320 Speaker 1: the game, and stay a part of the Cowboys experience 639 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 1: football season. At Omni Frisco Hotel, the official hotel the 640 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys, enjoy all the dining and entertainment options the 641 00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,879 Speaker 1: Star has to offer. We'll be right back with an 642 00:43:00,000 --> 00:46:03,520 Speaker 1: any Brown on the Cowboys Hour to the Miller Like 643 00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:08,960 Speaker 1: Cowboys Hour, supported by Albertsons and Omni Hotels and Resorts. 644 00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,399 Speaker 1: It's not his birthday, No, it is his birthday. Oh okay, 645 00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,960 Speaker 1: well then that's all we're saying. Anthony Brown, Cowboys Cornerback, 646 00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:31,120 Speaker 1: is our very special guest this evening and delighted to 647 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,080 Speaker 1: have Anthony with us as well as all of you 648 00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,719 Speaker 1: who are joining us wherever you're joining us. And I'm 649 00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:38,359 Speaker 1: told there are a couple of different ways you may 650 00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,120 Speaker 1: be seeing us now on the Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 651 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,839 Speaker 1: So Hi, Hi, everybody, Happy Thanksgiving. Hope it was good 652 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:50,640 Speaker 1: and we believe that we will have a show next Monday. 653 00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:55,600 Speaker 1: Since the Cowboys are now not playing the Baltimore Ravens 654 00:46:56,440 --> 00:47:00,919 Speaker 1: on Monday, They're playing the Baltimore Ravens on Tuesday at 655 00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:06,000 Speaker 1: seven o five pm Central Time. Class for Brad, I 656 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:09,800 Speaker 1: got it right, Yes, So A B. You were talking 657 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:14,520 Speaker 1: before about being allowed if you're not on IR, you 658 00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,960 Speaker 1: are allowed on the sideline for a home game. What 659 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,040 Speaker 1: about on the road? Are you guys able to travel 660 00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:23,160 Speaker 1: if you're if you're injured, but not on I R. 661 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,040 Speaker 1: I'll be honest, Brad, I don't know all the rules 662 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:31,799 Speaker 1: this year. I really don't know Okay, I won't hold 663 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:37,680 Speaker 1: I wouldn't hold you to anything anyway. That's good. Um. So, um, 664 00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:39,759 Speaker 1: you grew up in Tampa. I know you and I 665 00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,359 Speaker 1: have had this conversation before, but a lot of people, uh, 666 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,239 Speaker 1: the audience changes. You grew up in Tampa and went 667 00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:49,680 Speaker 1: to Purdue. That's probably not not a bunch of your 668 00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:53,640 Speaker 1: high school buddies were going to Purdue, were they? No? 669 00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,480 Speaker 1: It was actually it was Actually I had another guy 670 00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,920 Speaker 1: from Tampa at Purdue when I got there, though. Did 671 00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:05,160 Speaker 1: you know him? I knew him? Um, how did that happen? 672 00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,359 Speaker 1: How did you? I just I'm sorry, I paused, but 673 00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:12,800 Speaker 1: our fabulous technical director Tech nicols Pain has just texted 674 00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:16,880 Speaker 1: me that my headphones are on backwards. How what's backwards? 675 00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,799 Speaker 1: One year and you hear the sound? How'd you get 676 00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:24,160 Speaker 1: from Tampa to Purdue? And don't say you flu? I 677 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,120 Speaker 1: don't know. They came and got me, man, they came 678 00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:29,000 Speaker 1: and found me, and it all out the way it did. 679 00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,960 Speaker 1: They were They were actually the first team. They gave 680 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,359 Speaker 1: me an offer and after my junior season, and I 681 00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:39,000 Speaker 1: actually committed after my visit. I verbally committed after my 682 00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:43,160 Speaker 1: visit and after my senior year, I didn't really take 683 00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:47,080 Speaker 1: no other visit to any other schools and really listen 684 00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,279 Speaker 1: to what other schools had to say. Really, I just 685 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,880 Speaker 1: stuck with my first commitment, and that's really how I 686 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:55,000 Speaker 1: ended up at Purdue. It wasn't no crazy story anything. 687 00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,200 Speaker 1: I'm wondering if when you were drafted you have a 688 00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,120 Speaker 1: any story or something like that. We were talking to 689 00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,480 Speaker 1: Garrett Gilbert. He was saying he was watching golf in 690 00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,560 Speaker 1: the other room when you were drafted in twenty sixteen, 691 00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:12,680 Speaker 1: Did you have anything that was unusual or funny looking 692 00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:18,720 Speaker 1: back on it, Yeah, on my draft there, I actually 693 00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,520 Speaker 1: stopped watching the draft and I was at the airport 694 00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:25,120 Speaker 1: when I before I got the call. And it was 695 00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,320 Speaker 1: crazy because I was dropping someone off. I was dropping 696 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,000 Speaker 1: my wife off. She wasn't my wife at the time, 697 00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,280 Speaker 1: she was my girl at the time. I was dropping 698 00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,319 Speaker 1: her off at the airport and as I'm dropping her off, 699 00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,840 Speaker 1: I get a call and it's a Dallas number. And 700 00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:38,960 Speaker 1: as soon as I answered the phone, it's Jerry Jones, 701 00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,280 Speaker 1: and I just I wasn't shocked. I was like, wow, 702 00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,960 Speaker 1: this is crazy. Like I thought I wasn't getting drafted 703 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,680 Speaker 1: and I am getting drafted. In the sixth round and 704 00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:49,960 Speaker 1: Jerry Jones, I'm on the phone Jerry Jones, and I'm 705 00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:53,759 Speaker 1: a cowboy just like that. So that was really my story. Now, 706 00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,480 Speaker 1: you and I have talked before about and a lot 707 00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,480 Speaker 1: of guys, if they don't get drafted, were either they're 708 00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:01,520 Speaker 1: a hold them they were gonna go, or were they 709 00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:03,920 Speaker 1: hoped they were gonna go. And it gets the Saturday, 710 00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,920 Speaker 1: and some guys would rather not be drafted so they 711 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:11,240 Speaker 1: can decide to go wherever they want, and some guys 712 00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,400 Speaker 1: get a little chip on their shoulder about it. And 713 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,960 Speaker 1: now do I not recall correctly that you you had 714 00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:19,080 Speaker 1: a little chip on your shoulder about being taken out 715 00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:22,920 Speaker 1: before the sixth round? For sure, I mean it could 716 00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:24,600 Speaker 1: have a fourth round. I still have a chip on 717 00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,880 Speaker 1: my shoulder. And I just felt like, you know, I 718 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,000 Speaker 1: was even coming out of high school. I was a 719 00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:33,120 Speaker 1: little bit overlooked coming out, and I always had that 720 00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,080 Speaker 1: mentality and I always had that mindset. So when I 721 00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:37,840 Speaker 1: even when I went in the sixth round, I wasn't 722 00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,120 Speaker 1: I wasn't saying because I went in sixth round my 723 00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,759 Speaker 1: agent told me I was going before because he really 724 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:46,400 Speaker 1: didn't give me a specific round. It's something to look 725 00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,600 Speaker 1: to go in. It was just let's see what happened, 726 00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,719 Speaker 1: and it happened in the sixth round, and I'm glad 727 00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,520 Speaker 1: it happened the way it did and everything turned out fine. 728 00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:56,520 Speaker 1: So when you got home from the airport, did you 729 00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:59,680 Speaker 1: go turn on the TV? Again? I didn't. Actually I 730 00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:01,880 Speaker 1: did and get to see it on TV, but I 731 00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,880 Speaker 1: don't care because I experienced it firsthand on the phone 732 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,839 Speaker 1: with Jerry, so I was happy with that. So there 733 00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:09,760 Speaker 1: was no when you when he was on the phone 734 00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,600 Speaker 1: with you, did you have any thoughts of, well, wait 735 00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:16,680 Speaker 1: a minute, I'd rather have had it not been drafted 736 00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:18,600 Speaker 1: and gone wherever I wanted to go. Or were you 737 00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,560 Speaker 1: just happy? I wasn't. I wasn't feeling like that. I was. 738 00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:24,280 Speaker 1: I was happy with game drafted. I definitely was happy 739 00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:28,320 Speaker 1: to be drafted. And was your wife Was she already 740 00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:29,680 Speaker 1: on the plane or were you able to tell her 741 00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:31,799 Speaker 1: before she got on the plane to get to leave. 742 00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,239 Speaker 1: I was able to tell her right before. She was 743 00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,680 Speaker 1: just um cross terminal um to go over, you know, 744 00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:39,240 Speaker 1: when you got to go over to the other side. 745 00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:41,319 Speaker 1: She was just crossing over, And I told her right 746 00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,200 Speaker 1: before I left, And it was crazy did you think 747 00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,759 Speaker 1: about did you think about not getting on the plane? Now? 748 00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:49,520 Speaker 1: She had to go because she was an army at 749 00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:51,440 Speaker 1: the time, so I had to go back. Yeah, she 750 00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,000 Speaker 1: had to go back to work. Yeah, well you don't 751 00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:57,120 Speaker 1: mess around with that boss, right right? Where was she 752 00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:01,640 Speaker 1: going back to Ukleean? She wasn't Kaleen at the time, 753 00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,759 Speaker 1: so she wasn't far from me. Hey, well there you 754 00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:06,319 Speaker 1: And I'm sure she was very excited she was able 755 00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:09,600 Speaker 1: to hear the news rather than wait till her flight ended. Exactly. 756 00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,800 Speaker 1: I'm telling everything where it happened so fast and everything 757 00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:16,360 Speaker 1: it worked out nice. It's almost kind of nice that 758 00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:20,040 Speaker 1: it wasn't you know that the huge spectacle is fun 759 00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:23,400 Speaker 1: and watching it all on TV and happened, but was 760 00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,719 Speaker 1: it almost just kind of nice that it was organic 761 00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,319 Speaker 1: and it was really just you at the airport. It 762 00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,960 Speaker 1: wasn't a big to do. It was okay, like this 763 00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,640 Speaker 1: is this is pretty cool and it's it's pretty personal. 764 00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:37,680 Speaker 1: I was just happy it happened, period, that's all. I 765 00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:39,640 Speaker 1: was just happy to happen. And the only thing I 766 00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:41,920 Speaker 1: wish could I wish my mom was was next and 767 00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,399 Speaker 1: she because she's a dot haard Cowboy fan, she's been 768 00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:46,920 Speaker 1: on all her life, and I wanted her the experience 769 00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,560 Speaker 1: that moment too, So that's the only thing I would change. 770 00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:54,839 Speaker 1: But I'm just happy it happened. Would she also a Floridian? Yes? 771 00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:57,520 Speaker 1: So how did she get to be a Cowboy fan? 772 00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:00,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. She just been one ever since I 773 00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,520 Speaker 1: was once. He's been a Cowboy fan since I've been born. 774 00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,200 Speaker 1: So I've always been watching the Cowboys as a little kid, 775 00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:10,560 Speaker 1: and she's always been one. How special is that? I 776 00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:12,879 Speaker 1: feel There's a lot of players where, even if their 777 00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,560 Speaker 1: families are not from Dallas, they grew up watching the 778 00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:19,200 Speaker 1: Cowboys because of parents and Grant Right, they say America's 779 00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,239 Speaker 1: team for a reason. A lot of them say that 780 00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,439 Speaker 1: how special was that to get drafted and to still 781 00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:28,160 Speaker 1: be you just signed a new contract all with the Cowboys, Right, 782 00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,720 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Everything just happened the way it happens, 783 00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,960 Speaker 1: And I can't explain the feeling I get. It's just 784 00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:37,399 Speaker 1: I'm just blessing. I'm thankful for everything. Now, I want 785 00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,240 Speaker 1: to go back and ask you something about a topic 786 00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,560 Speaker 1: we were talking about the three of us here at 787 00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:48,279 Speaker 1: the beginning of the show. As as Danny mentioned. There 788 00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:52,279 Speaker 1: are a lot of people on radio stations and in 789 00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:55,839 Speaker 1: the Twitter verse right now talking about who the Cowboys 790 00:53:55,920 --> 00:54:00,319 Speaker 1: might draft and should should injured players play the rest 791 00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:03,919 Speaker 1: of the way so that maybe if you don't play 792 00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,359 Speaker 1: all your best players, you wind up getting a better draft. 793 00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,600 Speaker 1: Trust a B. I've always found it very comical let 794 00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,560 Speaker 1: people talk about players caring about that, because if you're 795 00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,320 Speaker 1: a veteran player, what we're talking about is they're bringing 796 00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,600 Speaker 1: in someone maybe to take your job. Is that Is 797 00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:21,479 Speaker 1: that something that you hear people talk about and say, 798 00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:24,560 Speaker 1: don't even come near me with any of that talk. No, 799 00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:27,719 Speaker 1: I'm not hearing anybody talking about nothing on the outside. 800 00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,320 Speaker 1: I'm not even trying to hear it. I'm staying to 801 00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:33,399 Speaker 1: myself and worrying about me and trying to get better 802 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,240 Speaker 1: on my end. I'm not hearing none of that outside noise. 803 00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:41,879 Speaker 1: And how do you keep that out the stairways. I'm 804 00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,160 Speaker 1: not on social media. I don't even I don't even 805 00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:48,080 Speaker 1: get on Twitter, so you know, Twitter is crazy, and Instagram, 806 00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,880 Speaker 1: you know, I just stay don't even read the comments, 807 00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:52,680 Speaker 1: don't look at any of that stuff, and you just, 808 00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:55,120 Speaker 1: you know, try to stay away from that negative energy 809 00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,279 Speaker 1: that people put out there and you want to just 810 00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,640 Speaker 1: stay positive. So I just try to stay positive much 811 00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,960 Speaker 1: as tend to my family and do my job. It's 812 00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:05,480 Speaker 1: very wise, man, We got right here. Well, then, are 813 00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:10,960 Speaker 1: you on TikTok? Definitely not. I just had to ask. 814 00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,279 Speaker 1: I'm only on Instagram. I have a Twitter, but I don't. 815 00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:17,800 Speaker 1: I tweet every now and then, but not really. Instagram 816 00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,319 Speaker 1: probably be the best way to get in contact with me. 817 00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,080 Speaker 1: But other than that, I'm not on social media. We'll 818 00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:25,000 Speaker 1: go You want to go ahead and tell everybody your 819 00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:29,920 Speaker 1: Instagram handle so they can follow you Instagram handles as 820 00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:35,040 Speaker 1: b underscore I X and Twitter handle. I don't even 821 00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:37,359 Speaker 1: know my Twitter handle. That's crazy for we don't even 822 00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:41,000 Speaker 1: worry about it. Believe me, I'm on their way too 823 00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,080 Speaker 1: much and I'm not on there a lot. But it's 824 00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:45,840 Speaker 1: there's nothing good that comes from There's nothing good that 825 00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:51,480 Speaker 1: comes from Twitter. So, um, this week, Monday and Tuesday, 826 00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:56,439 Speaker 1: you're locked out of the building. Are you meeting virtually? Yes, 827 00:55:56,680 --> 00:56:01,680 Speaker 1: virtual meetings both days? You had today and tomorrow? Yep, 828 00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:05,319 Speaker 1: today and tomorrow virtual meetings. And how I'm supposed to 829 00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,400 Speaker 1: be back in the building on Wednesday. But now that 830 00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:09,440 Speaker 1: we just gotta push you back again. I'm not sure 831 00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:13,800 Speaker 1: if that's going to change anything amount the Ravens. We've 832 00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,200 Speaker 1: talked about. The whole reason all this is the schedule 833 00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:20,279 Speaker 1: is changing is the COVID outbreak with Baltimore. They've put 834 00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,960 Speaker 1: I think at this point, like twenty players on the 835 00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,840 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen reserve list. How hard is that when you 836 00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:27,480 Speaker 1: guys don't know who you're going to be preparing to 837 00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:31,480 Speaker 1: play against. I mean, twenty players is crazy. Just to 838 00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,440 Speaker 1: think about twenty players, like that's almost half the team, 839 00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:38,480 Speaker 1: Like that's a lot of people. So, you know, I 840 00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,080 Speaker 1: really don't know. This would be our first game we 841 00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,560 Speaker 1: have them to prepare for guys who we don't know 842 00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,640 Speaker 1: who would be playing. And I figured we'll just go 843 00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:48,560 Speaker 1: on with the same mindset. Let's just focus on us 844 00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:50,359 Speaker 1: and do what we do. We don't matter who who 845 00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,279 Speaker 1: lines up against us. We just gotta do what we 846 00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:55,400 Speaker 1: gotta do. Anthony Brown our guest tonight for Danny Siak. 847 00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:58,040 Speaker 1: I'm Brad Sham. Thanks for joining us everybody on the 848 00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:02,320 Speaker 1: Cowboys Hour. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys 849 00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:05,000 Speaker 1: dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.