Speaker 1: M what's thwarton Missophie's I'm Robert Evans hosted Behind the Bastards,
Speaker 1: And during the break we took between this chapter and
Speaker 1: the last one, I stole back the case of Peria
Speaker 1: and I'm going to throw it at some point. Sophie's
Speaker 1: standing next to me right now trying to get it back,
Speaker 1: but she's not. She's not gonna everybody, but I need
Speaker 1: a drink. If I opened the Paria can to get
Speaker 1: a drink to what my throat, then when I throw it,
Speaker 1: it's just gonna do more damage. Wait, so you're gonna
Speaker 1: take one out and you're going to that one? Well,
Speaker 1: now I'm not There's something visual things going on right now.
Speaker 1: What I love about visual things is that they're the
Speaker 1: ideal thing to do on a podcast famed visual medium.
Speaker 1: We're doing great. Chapter five, A Hidden Civil War cool.
Speaker 1: One of the issues with discussing the history of secret
Speaker 1: organizations one to overthrow the government is that, for obvious reasons,
Speaker 1: an awful lot is left in shadow. We do not
Speaker 1: know the precise day or the hour that the Order
Speaker 1: was founded. We do not know its exact composition, or
Speaker 1: to what precise extent. Men like Louis Beam and William
Speaker 1: Pierce were involved in it. Officially, the Order was probably
Speaker 1: not certainly not a lot. Officially, the Order was founded
Speaker 1: in September of nine by Robert Matthews during a convention
Speaker 1: he attended for Pierce's National Alliance in Arlington. While Beam
Speaker 1: and Pierce tended to approach the issue of sparking a
Speaker 1: fascist revolution rather differently, Matthews had deep ties to both men.
Speaker 1: He was profoundly influenced by Beam's ideas and writings, and
Speaker 1: was also an obsessive fan of the Turner Diaries. He
Speaker 1: essentially acted as a bridge between the two sides of
Speaker 1: the vanguardist movement, tying Beams Klansmen and Christian identity nuts
Speaker 1: together with Pierce's neo Nazis. William Pierce called the Order
Speaker 1: the Aryan Resistance Movement. Robert Miles called it the Bruto
Speaker 1: Schwigen or Silent Brotherhood, but to Bob Matthews and most
Speaker 1: of the members it was known simply as the Order
Speaker 1: in direct imitation of the group responsible for organizing the
Speaker 1: fictional white nationalist insurgency and the Turner Diaries. There were
Speaker 1: originally nine men, three from the National Alliance, four from
Speaker 1: the Aryan Nations and one former clansmen. Now Matthews devised
Speaker 1: a six step strategy for his new terror organization. He
Speaker 1: would start by recruiting a base of soldiers around the
Speaker 1: nation and train them at sundry fascist compounds around the country.
Speaker 1: Once Matthews had to train a corps of soldiers, they
Speaker 1: would be gained committing robberies and counterfeiting money. This would
Speaker 1: fund the purchase of an arsenal, which would allow them
Speaker 1: to commit more ambitious robberies and raise millions of dollars
Speaker 1: which they would then dispense to different fascist groups around
Speaker 1: the nation. In essence, Bob Matthews had looked out at
Speaker 1: all the white supremacist compounds around the country, places like
Speaker 1: Elohim City, the Aryan Nations near Mayah Township, and various
Speaker 1: Possecomatatius communities. He decided these groups had potential they were
Speaker 1: connected and funded more effectively. The Order was a way
Speaker 1: to do that. And carrying out this plan, Matthews was
Speaker 1: both working to fulfill Pierce's dream of a big tent
Speaker 1: fascist organization and actively funding beams plan to connect these
Speaker 1: different groups via the early Internet. Okay, cool, it's just
Speaker 1: a bunch of cool buds hanging out, but cool dudes
Speaker 1: having cool friends. The Order's end goal was a white
Speaker 1: ethno state in the Pacific Northwest. Here, to Matthews was
Speaker 1: following in the fust steps of other fascist thinkers. The
Speaker 1: Northwest Imperative, as it is now known, first propped up
Speaker 1: in the nineteen seventies and was initially cheered on by
Speaker 1: Christian Identity pastor and Arian Nations leader Richard Butler. In
Speaker 1: creating the Order, Matthews had since synthesized decades of far
Speaker 1: right thinking with his love of the Turner Diaries into
Speaker 1: a serious plan for revolution. On paper, it looked kind
Speaker 1: of silly. She was even based off of yes, speculative
Speaker 1: science fiction, but Matthews quickly turned his plans into action.
Speaker 1: On October three, Bob and several of his men held
Speaker 1: up an adult bookstore in Spokane, Washington, netting three hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: It was seems silly, right, It seems silly. It seems
Speaker 1: not worth It seems not worth it. But this small
Speaker 1: scale crime was just the start of many. Matthews and
Speaker 1: his crew kept on robbing. Two months later, they stole
Speaker 1: twenty five thousand dollars from a Seattle bank dollars from
Speaker 1: a spoke Can bank. They robbed a courier after picking
Speaker 1: up the daily cash receipts from a Shawnees restaurant and
Speaker 1: made out with eight thousand dollars. The Order professionalized quickly,
Speaker 1: and within a matter of months that also started counterfeiting
Speaker 1: fifty bills. Okay, yeah, we need to do that. They're
Speaker 1: still on the money. They really didn't need to do that.
Speaker 1: Turn out to have been a bad idea, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but the idea was that like, by counterfeiting money, they
Speaker 1: could both damage the state by like bringing financial collapse,
Speaker 1: and we could make money. Yeah. By spring, Robert Matthews
Speaker 1: had proved himself to be a competent and dangerous guerilla leader,
Speaker 1: and his Order was quickly becoming the biggest new thing
Speaker 1: in American fascism. Dozens of young militants flocked to join
Speaker 1: and do their part to further the cause. They fled
Speaker 1: it in from other far right groups with names like
Speaker 1: The Covenant, The Sword, and the Arm of the Lord,
Speaker 1: Sundry pasticcomtaties in a sort of KKK chapters. Yeah, they're
Speaker 1: all there. The fucking nerves, doesn't it always grosses me out? Yeah?
Speaker 1: The Proud Boys are just in variation on a theme
Speaker 1: of terrible names for right wing terrorist groups. Yeah. In
Speaker 1: order to briad camaraderie and loyalty, Matthews developed rituals for
Speaker 1: his warrior elite and went to quote now from bringing
Speaker 1: the war home. They took their induction oath on Matthew's farm.
Speaker 1: They stood in a circle around a white female infant,
Speaker 1: who symbolized the race they sought to protect. They raised
Speaker 1: their arms in a Hitler salute. I as a free
Speaker 1: Aryan man, they recited hereby swear an unrelenting oath upon
Speaker 1: the green graves of our sires, upon the children, and
Speaker 1: the wombs of our wives. They swore that they had
Speaker 1: no fear of death or foe, but had a sacred
Speaker 1: duty to do whatever is necessary to deliver our people
Speaker 1: from the jew and bring total victory to the Aryan race.
Speaker 1: They pledged secrecy about all activities to follow. They swore
Speaker 1: to rescue any of their number taken prisoner. Should an
Speaker 1: enemy agent hurt you, they promised their silent brothers, I
Speaker 1: will chase him to the ends of the earth and
Speaker 1: remove his head from his body. Their oath recognized them
Speaker 1: as racial warriors, but also transformed them into weapons. My brothers,
Speaker 1: let us be God's battle axe and weapons of war.
Speaker 1: Let us go forth by ones and twos, by scores
Speaker 1: and legions as true Aryan men. They vowed, we are
Speaker 1: in a state of war and will not lay down
Speaker 1: our weapons until we have driven the enemy into the
Speaker 1: sea and reclaimed the land which was promised to our
Speaker 1: fathers of old, and through our blood in his will
Speaker 1: becomes the land of our children to be. I cannot
Speaker 1: believe these nerds who look so disgusted to the entire thing.
Speaker 1: I was just like, oh, I hate it so much,
Speaker 1: some sexist, racist, awful, white supremacist bullshit. But it's also
Speaker 1: so they're so embarrassing. It is also what it is.
Speaker 1: It's like they're so evil and they're so lame. This
Speaker 1: is part of why I think that like making stuff
Speaker 1: like dungeons and dragons and larking more socially acceptable might
Speaker 1: reduce the number of young men who do you see
Speaker 1: your outlet, Yeah, just give him an excuse to talk
Speaker 1: about axes and hating people. Except you know, yeah, that
Speaker 1: really kind of proves me incorrect on that, because they
Speaker 1: just did both. They both Yeah, in March Night, the
Speaker 1: Order carried out their first robbery of an armored car.
Speaker 1: They netted forty three thousand dollars. They robbed the same
Speaker 1: armored car again in April and got their biggest score yet,
Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty thousand dollars. Later that month, Order
Speaker 1: members also bombed a synagogue in Boise, Idaho, Okay. As
Speaker 1: the summer of rolled along, Matthews and other members of
Speaker 1: his inner circle began to worry that one of their men,
Speaker 1: Walter West, might talk. Two of Bob's men shot and
Speaker 1: buried him in the woods on June one. A little
Speaker 1: more than two weeks later, on Jeans sevent, Matthews and
Speaker 1: three of his men shot and killed Alan Berg, a
Speaker 1: Jewish radio host and anti fascist who regularly attacked Neo
Speaker 1: Nazis on the air. The Burg murder officially raced the
Speaker 1: Order's profile and guaranteed major law enforcement attention. The group's
Speaker 1: danger was reinforced a month later when they hoisted a
Speaker 1: Brinks truck in Ucaya, California, and made off with the
Speaker 1: staggering three point six million dollars. Je yep, I wonder
Speaker 1: where all that money went? Let's read the next paragraph.
Speaker 1: Now flush with enough cash to rage wage of revolution.
Speaker 1: Using his order, began buying up guns like they were
Speaker 1: going out of style when they also purchased a three
Speaker 1: acre plot of land in Missouri in a hundred and
Speaker 1: ten acres in Idaho. Each participant in the robbery got
Speaker 1: forty dollars, but the bulk of the money went to
Speaker 1: other fascists around the country. Different organizations received grants in
Speaker 1: a hundred thousand dollar increments. Matthews also tied not So
Speaker 1: Gred do Nazi research. Yeah. Matthews also tithed ten percent
Speaker 1: of has stolen money to the Arian nations. So that's good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, just give them giving out, giving back. They're
Speaker 1: really hurting for cash. You know who else is certain
Speaker 1: for cash? That's a bad ad transition, Sophie. You know
Speaker 1: who else wants your cash? Who and is better than
Speaker 1: Nazis the advertisers for this show, for this show. Yeah
Speaker 1: that's good, that's your hope. Yeah. Yeah, I am not
Speaker 1: doing great today. I do have Chekhov's case of Perry.
Speaker 1: No not yet. I just I feel like I have
Speaker 1: to really build it up because definitely going to be
Speaker 1: the last thing I get to throw in this room. Now.
Speaker 1: Sophy's just giving me a look anyway, products we're back.
Speaker 1: How you doing, Sophie, Yeah, you should make sure the
Speaker 1: dogs on the other side of the room, because who
Speaker 1: knows when I'll throw this, PERRYA just look for the
Speaker 1: dog I will now. Members of the Order developed code
Speaker 1: names and acquired fake I d. S. Matthews even had
Speaker 1: silver medallion's crafted to act as proof of membership. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's about to get cooler, Katie. Because they had nicknames, ye,
Speaker 1: nicknames like moon Wolf, Marshal somebody Sam. Do you say
Speaker 1: Veal mar? These are bad? Yeah, Yosemite Sam, that's like yeah.
Speaker 1: One member was nicknamed Mr. Closet for his love of
Speaker 1: assaulting gay men. Oh my god, no, it makes it
Speaker 1: sound like he's in the closet. She probably was, probably was.
Speaker 1: Louis Bean was codenamed Jolly, and Lone Star. Pierce was
Speaker 1: code named Brigham after Mormon leader Brigham Young had medallion's.
Speaker 1: The only good nickname there is Jolly. They're chilling. First
Speaker 1: of all, it's super lame to pick your own nickname.
Speaker 1: And you know, they all picked their own nicknames, except
Speaker 1: for maybe Mr. Closet. I feel like somebody gave me
Speaker 1: was like, but they're so bad they're so lame. They're
Speaker 1: so lame, okay, and they're silly, and you get it
Speaker 1: at all. It's like a lone wolf, all right, now
Speaker 1: you're not You're like a yeah, you got your law
Speaker 1: enforcement field officer, no, field marshal, marshal. There's some cops
Speaker 1: that or nazis. Well that's not a field mark, that's
Speaker 1: an cop. They're like law enforcement. No, no field marshals,
Speaker 1: like a general level rank. But it was like the
Speaker 1: Germans had a lot of feel not only Germans, but
Speaker 1: yeah it's a military. Yeah, but the same idea. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then you got Sam which is silly that they are. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's silly, exactly who they are. Yeah. In nine months,
Speaker 1: Bob Matthews had turned his dreams in the theories of
Speaker 1: men like Beaman Pierce into a real revolutionary movement. He
Speaker 1: had made the Turner Diaries. Real new recruits to the
Speaker 1: Order were reportedly handed copies of the book, and for
Speaker 1: a while, law enforcement seemed powerless to do anything to
Speaker 1: stop them. According to Bring the War Home quote, even
Speaker 1: if federal agents and a few journalists were aware of
Speaker 1: the white power movement, the mainstream public continued to see
Speaker 1: most white power of violence as the work of Arrant Madman.
Speaker 1: The phrase lone wolf, previously used to describe criminals acting alone,
Speaker 1: was employed increasingly in the nineteen eighties and nineties to
Speaker 1: describe white power activists. Has played into the movement's aim
Speaker 1: to prevent anyone from putting together a cohesive account of
Speaker 1: the group's actions up Not all checks out, doesn't it?
Speaker 1: So I take them seriously. History of how we don't
Speaker 1: call white terrorists, but you know who we should call terrorists?
Speaker 1: Antifa group that didn't kill anybody, zero people? Yes, are
Speaker 1: you suggesting that they're not? I'm just saying, like of
Speaker 1: the groups I'm willing to consider terrorists. Al Qaeda, the
Speaker 1: death toll thousands, right, yeah, uh, Antifa death told zero,
Speaker 1: KKK death toll thousands. But they're not actually a terrorist
Speaker 1: group in the US. That's that's what's white nationalist terrorism.
Speaker 1: It doesn't seem to be treated as seriously. Not because
Speaker 1: there are a bunch of lone wolves in a pack together. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can't fight lone wolves, but they're they're a pack,
Speaker 1: but they're alone. Yeah, they're a pack of lone wolves,
Speaker 1: which you can't defend. Again, it is good times. So
Speaker 1: the orders undoing came from a member of the group
Speaker 1: and a former National Alliance schoon named Tom Martinez. Matthews
Speaker 1: had brought Martinez in to help pass counterfeit bills around
Speaker 1: his home in Philadelphia. He was caught by the FBI,
Speaker 1: and he turned informant to avoid prison. The FBI used
Speaker 1: this information to track Matthews to Portland, Oregon, where they
Speaker 1: engaged him in a short gun battle. Bob was wounded
Speaker 1: but managed to flee to Whidbey Island in Washington with
Speaker 1: several of his most loyal soldiers. The FBI surrounded the
Speaker 1: house and eventually all of Matthews's men surrendered, but Robert
Speaker 1: Matthews refused to give up alone. He fought the FBI
Speaker 1: off for an astonishing forty hours. The Bureau eventually burned
Speaker 1: the cabin down around Matthews, killing him on December eighth. Yeah.
Speaker 1: He's a bit of a hero to these guys to
Speaker 1: this day. Yeah. With their leader debt, the Order eventually crumbled,
Speaker 1: proving by the way that Louis Baum had been right
Speaker 1: to emphasize leaderless resistance. After five months of arrests around
Speaker 1: the country, more than fifty members of the Order had
Speaker 1: been arrested. The FBI recovered a great deal of cash,
Speaker 1: but millions remained unaccounted for. They found what some of
Speaker 1: that money had bought, though, When they rated the heavily
Speaker 1: armed Ozark's compound of the Covenant, the Sword in the
Speaker 1: Arm of the Lord Law, anti tank rockets and machine
Speaker 1: guns were found hidden on the property. The c s A.
Speaker 1: We're not the only group who had bought rocket launchers
Speaker 1: with the orders of gotten Gains, however, and not all
Speaker 1: of those weapons were recovered. This is part of why
Speaker 1: it became illegal for U. S. Servicemen to be members
Speaker 1: of extremist groups, because all these fucking weapons kept getting it.
Speaker 1: And that's the only reason. Yeah, that's the only reason.
Speaker 1: You used to be really easy to get military grade weapons.
Speaker 1: They did some reforms that have made that harder apparently,
Speaker 1: so good bully for them. Kudos the military. I mean,
Speaker 1: they're actually, of all the government organizations, they're the only
Speaker 1: one with any kind of effective long term response to
Speaker 1: any of this. Yeah. Yeah. Now. The first trial associated
Speaker 1: with the order took place in Seattle and included several
Speaker 1: members of the c s A. They played guilty on
Speaker 1: weapons chargers and were convicted of rack teering. Next, the
Speaker 1: U S Attorney brought a ninety three page indictment against
Speaker 1: twenty three members of the Order. Robert Miles, Louis Bam,
Speaker 1: and William Pierce were not indicted. In the months leading
Speaker 1: up to the trial, members of the Order rolled over
Speaker 1: on their comrades with unusual regularity. By the time the
Speaker 1: trial rolled around in September n only ten of them
Speaker 1: actually faced trial. This hardened core of loyal racists included
Speaker 1: David Lane, the man who would years later coined the
Speaker 1: fourteen words that neo Nazis still used today as a
Speaker 1: calling card YEP. During the case, prosecutors specifically noted that
Speaker 1: the Turner diaries had acted as a blueprint for Bob Matthews.
Speaker 1: According to Blood and Politics quote, in an opening statement,
Speaker 1: a defense attorney acknowledged that his client was a clan
Speaker 1: member and an avowed white supremacist or white separatist. Now
Speaker 1: I say white separatist, he continued, because there is a
Speaker 1: significant difference in an individual who professes to be a
Speaker 1: white supremacist as opposed to a white separatist. What was
Speaker 1: that difference? The white separatist is nothing different than a
Speaker 1: black nationalist who advocates a separation of races, wants to
Speaker 1: live only with those members of his race. He advocates
Speaker 1: the fact that when racism mixed together, they cannot survive
Speaker 1: because of their division in their cultural backgrounds, their upbringing,
Speaker 1: in their history. The Seattle jury did not buy this
Speaker 1: distinction between white supremacy the nineteen any more than the
Speaker 1: Supreme Court was willing to endore separate but equal doctrine
Speaker 1: in nineteen fifty four. Neither did the jury believe defense
Speaker 1: efforts to impute the credibility of arians who became prosecution witnesses,
Speaker 1: nor did jurors accept contentions that the defendants beliefs were
Speaker 1: unrelated to the enumerated crimes. After four months at trial,
Speaker 1: all were found guilty. So that's good. That's good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. Now, in death, Bob Matthews and his Order
Speaker 1: became a symbol for fascists around the country. In Raleigh,
Speaker 1: North Carolina, hundreds of Nazis rallying under banners that said
Speaker 1: we love the Order. In Idaho, a group called Order
Speaker 1: to set off several bombs in cort Aline. The date
Speaker 1: of Matthew's death, December eighth, became Martyr's Day to many
Speaker 1: neo Nazis. Some of them started carrying out memorial camping
Speaker 1: trips near where he had been killed on Whidbey Island.
Speaker 1: But still the order had failed in its goals, and
Speaker 1: that failure had come at a substantial cost. William Beam
Speaker 1: and Lewis Pierce had not been indicted or charged his
Speaker 1: result of Matthew's activities, but they now found themselves at
Speaker 1: the center of much more FBI attention. In an operation
Speaker 1: named Clean Sweep, the bureau began seating white supremacist organizations
Speaker 1: around the country with undercover operatives. Later, in nineteen eighty five,
Speaker 1: they stopped an area nation's plot to kill a government
Speaker 1: in form it. Another terrorist associated with the group was
Speaker 1: stopped after a bombing a federal building, several businesses, and
Speaker 1: a rectory and cord Aline. In nine six, the FEDS
Speaker 1: busted William Potter Gale, founder of the Posse Coomatatus in Nevada.
Speaker 1: Gale and several allies were convicted of planning to bomb
Speaker 1: the i R. S kind of sounds like an insurgency,
Speaker 1: It kind of does sound like yep. Near the end
Speaker 1: of nineteen eighty six, the FBI busted eight members of
Speaker 1: a new group the Arizona Patriots before they could carry
Speaker 1: out their goal of following in Bob Matthews's footsteps. The
Speaker 1: group had planned to rob banks to finance a domestic consurgency.
Speaker 1: All around the u S, white supremacists continued to plot
Speaker 1: and launch attacks. One of these men was Glenn Miller,
Speaker 1: formerly the leader of a group called the White Patriot Party.
Speaker 1: He'd received at least seventy five thousand dollars in Order
Speaker 1: Monny from Bob Matthews. As the FBI busted more and
Speaker 1: more of these guys, they found more and more evidence
Speaker 1: of the Order's influence and money, and gradually they pieced
Speaker 1: together the story of what had really happened and came
Speaker 1: to realize that Matthews's group had sought nothing less than
Speaker 1: the complete overthrow of the federal government. In midnight, Louis Beam,
Speaker 1: Richard Butler, Robert Miles, and several other ideological leaders of
Speaker 1: the fascist movement were finally indicted for their role in
Speaker 1: the Order. So that's cool, yeah, and we're gonna hear
Speaker 1: about what happened next after ads, I'm just incapable of
Speaker 1: doing a good ad transition. That was great, thank you,
Speaker 1: but it's a lie. You know it's I'm not going
Speaker 1: to throw it yet. I'm just I'm building tension. Bring
Speaker 1: it up. This is how you screenwriting one on one
Speaker 1: Katie Chekhov's case of Perry A. Just my heart stops.
Speaker 1: But I'm cool and laid back, So whatever you're gonna do.
Speaker 1: You know, the reality of the situation is, as soon
Speaker 1: as I started getting a sense for the heft of
Speaker 1: this case, I started regretting the fact that I've taught
Speaker 1: this up so much, but now it has to happen.
Speaker 1: What about taking one out throwing it? That actually might
Speaker 1: make it more dangerous. Then it will fall out the
Speaker 1: back like a scatter bomb if you open it. It's
Speaker 1: what if we taped pillows all around it. I don't
Speaker 1: think we can do that. I think I have to
Speaker 1: throw it. You can subvert the narrative and not throw it,
Speaker 1: but the best thing we do with narratives is not
Speaker 1: to subvert them. Sure, you can just give it a
Speaker 1: gentle stories the way we do, but you could get
Speaker 1: a bit of you could redefine what throwing is, make
Speaker 1: it like a gentle toss. I'm not going to go
Speaker 1: because I don't feel like that's necessary given the extremity
Speaker 1: of what this case of perry A represents. But I
Speaker 1: am going to throw it. I mean those are the cans, correct, Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: that's something. Yeah, it's several pounds tin slim cans. As
Speaker 1: the package states, how we doing, Sylphie adds, it's not
Speaker 1: even twelve products. We're back. Okay, we hadn't come back yet,
Speaker 1: I started talking about perry A. So, uh yeah. Robert Miles,
Speaker 1: Richard Butler, Louis Beam, and several other fascist ideologues had
Speaker 1: gotten indicted for their role in the order. Um Getting
Speaker 1: all of these guys together was quite a task, and
Speaker 1: at one point Louis Beam's wife shot of federal agent
Speaker 1: who came for them. But eventually they all got found up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they all wound up under trial. Um So, the Justice
Speaker 1: Department charged these men with a number of crimes, including
Speaker 1: seditious conspiracy to quote overthrow, put down, and destroyed by
Speaker 1: force the government of the United States and form a
Speaker 1: new arian nation. Oddly enough, William Pierced was not indicted.
Speaker 1: Seditious conspiracy was a crime numerous communists and Puerto Rican
Speaker 1: nationalists had already been successfully convicted of committing, but no
Speaker 1: Nazis or white supremacists had ever been convicted of the crime.
Speaker 1: Despite the order's shocking violence and well docum minute goals,
Speaker 1: this fact did not change The trial convened in February
Speaker 1: of nine, and the fascist defense attorneys managed to exclude
Speaker 1: any black people from the jury. The trial was almost
Speaker 1: instantly a ship show and served more to allow Louis
Speaker 1: Beam to preach his views to the nation than to
Speaker 1: guarantee justice. In his opening statement, he told the jury,
Speaker 1: the only reason I'm here is because I said what
Speaker 1: I think. If the Constitution is still alive, I'm innocent.
Speaker 1: Beam admitted that he had set up computer billetin boards
Speaker 1: for different fascist groups around the country, but denied that
Speaker 1: these boards were used for any illicit communication. He told
Speaker 1: the jury he had been changing his daughter's diaper when
Speaker 1: the purported meeting that created the order had occurred, so
Speaker 1: he dubbed the government's case the baby diaper conspiracy for
Speaker 1: the whole meeting. Yeah, that's an outrageous diaper, Like take
Speaker 1: her to the doctor. Man, you're doing more to pick
Speaker 1: this story apart than anyone in the court of law did.
Speaker 1: Beam ended one speech in his defense with an almost
Speaker 1: word for word recitation of something he'd written in Essays
Speaker 1: of a Klansman about his anger at protesters he'd supposedly
Speaker 1: encountered after a turning home from Vietnam. Quote from Beam.
Speaker 1: As I sat there watching the flag disintegrate, rage and
Speaker 1: bitterness began to engulf me. The flames consuming the flag
Speaker 1: changed to flames enveloping an armored personnel carrier and the
Speaker 1: hobo woods north of Saigon. The cheers of the demonstrators
Speaker 1: became the screams of a nineteen year old soldier over
Speaker 1: his radio as he burned to death, trapped inside what
Speaker 1: was fast becoming his coffin. The clapping of his hands
Speaker 1: as the flag fell to the ground became the deafening
Speaker 1: roar of my M sixty machine gun as I literally
Speaker 1: melted the barrel in an attempt to pin down the
Speaker 1: enemy long enough for the dying soldiers friends to reach him. Finally,
Speaker 1: at last came the laughter of those demonstrators as they
Speaker 1: spit on the ashes at their feet, blending in my
Speaker 1: mind with the sobs of grown men as I remembered
Speaker 1: the armored personnel carrier disappearing in a ball of orange flame. Okay,
Speaker 1: the prosecution just lets them say this ship, yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The judge just lets them say this ship yeah. After
Speaker 1: seven weeks of trial, Louis Bam and his fellow defendants
Speaker 1: were all found not guilty of seditious conspiracy. They were released,
Speaker 1: presumably free to return to their lives in the movement
Speaker 1: of doing nothing. Though doing nothing their lives harmless, lives
Speaker 1: of being harmless. The Justice Department had taken it shot
Speaker 1: at the intellectual center of the white supremacist movement. They
Speaker 1: had failed, and ultimately their failure came not from law
Speaker 1: enforcements on willingness to prosecute Nazis, but from ordinary white
Speaker 1: Americans and the sympathy they held from men like Beam,
Speaker 1: who built themselves as warriors against communism and patriots. Beams
Speaker 1: racism and his desire to overthrow the government simply weren't
Speaker 1: seen as that bad by a jury of his peers. Sure,
Speaker 1: the leaders of the white supremacist movement had gotten off
Speaker 1: more or less scott free, but the court battle and
Speaker 1: the months many of them had spent on the Lamb
Speaker 1: before being arrested had aged them all. Richard Butler's influence
Speaker 1: would gradually fade after he returned home to Idaho, Louis
Speaker 1: Beam continued to be an influential mind within the movement,
Speaker 1: but he would be more careful and much quieter from
Speaker 1: now on. The heat brought on by the crackdown forced
Speaker 1: Beam to retire his beloved Interclan newsletter and Survival Alert.
Speaker 1: The last issue contained an essay by an unknown author,
Speaker 1: probably Beam. In it, he wrote, the second American Revolution
Speaker 1: will be a revolution of individuals, a revolution without exact
Speaker 1: precedent in recorded history, because individuals can accomplish complex acts
Speaker 1: of resistance without peril of betrayal or even detection by
Speaker 1: the most advanced snooping devices. Missions formally assigned to groups
Speaker 1: maybe undertaken by individuals equipped to fight alone. It would
Speaker 1: not be long before a young man named Himothy McVeigh
Speaker 1: would prove these words prophetic, individualistic. Yeah, community, it's collective,
Speaker 1: but their loan. Their long wolves, but they are loan.
Speaker 1: Just individual crazy people like the guy who shut up
Speaker 1: the Gilroy Garlic Festival. Not connected to a larger moom
Speaker 1: was the manifesto or the book that it was by
Speaker 1: a guy named Ragnar Redbeard, and it's one of a
Speaker 1: number of books that appears regularly in full. He was
Speaker 1: like writing in the eighteen nineties, Um about like white
Speaker 1: nationalism and uh kind of eco fascism, like kind of
Speaker 1: a really early eco fascist text. That's what the other
Speaker 1: guy a piece of said. Yeah, and it's one of
Speaker 1: a number of books that circulates a lot on a chan. Actually, Um,
Speaker 1: you sent around PDFs for this stuff, like the stuff
Speaker 1: that people wouldn't have been able to get before the Internet,
Speaker 1: which is why Louis Bean was right to start doing this.
Speaker 1: We would talk more about that later. I think I'm
Speaker 1: gonna wait until next episode launch this perry A. But
Speaker 1: that's what we call, uh foreshadowing or stating your intentions.
Speaker 1: I guess right, kind of like the Nazis did, and
Speaker 1: like the Nazis, I expect to not get in trouble
Speaker 1: no matter what happens. I would say that that's actually
Speaker 1: foreshadowing that you won't throw the perry a. Like you're
Speaker 1: talking yourself up about it, you're bringing it up, you're
Speaker 1: reinforcing it in the really obvious way, and so that
Speaker 1: might be foreshadowing to us that you're not You're going
Speaker 1: to change your mind. I've got to I've got to
Speaker 1: throw them. Until I said this anyhow, then he said
Speaker 1: that we've talked about it too much. Well, you guys
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Speaker 1: these cans in the next episode. Oh no, high scooting
Speaker 1: all the way away. I know, I love I love
Speaker 1: making you flinch. Just listen to the sound. That's that's
Speaker 1: foreshadowing ominous no under No Circumstances Episode over