1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 2: Let's dive a little bit deeper into the Nvidia earnings. 3 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 2: Who do you want to dive deeper in than better person? 4 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: Right now? That's our guy. 5 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 2: I mean, he's getting geared up for Penn State, Nevada 6 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 2: this weekend, but he's probably focusing a little bit here 7 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 2: on Nvidio. Hey, Dan, I thought these numbers were darn good. 8 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: But I know there's the law of large numbers. I 9 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 2: know there's a whole thing about expectations. Give us your 10 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 2: take on these Nvidia numbers, Dan, I. 11 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: Thought they were robots, and I think the sum extent 12 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: when you factored China and they actually beat expectation, especially 13 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: when you look at the outlook. I think this stock 14 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: cuts up today and I think in further validates Well, 15 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 1: we've obviously been talking a lot, you know, with you 16 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: and the team about about the AI story now playing 17 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: out into the next stiege of growth. This is bullish 18 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: in my opinion. 19 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 3: Dan, What was your takeaway here as it relates to 20 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 3: a lot of the spending here, Capax. 21 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: I think it just sures there's one ship in the world. 22 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,919 Speaker 1: Few in the AI revolutions led by Godfather of Ai Jensen, 23 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: thea viding and newquit's happened on Capax. It's just continuing 24 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: to accelerate. And then you factor in China that could 25 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,479 Speaker 1: be fifty billions, I mean, and talking about the fifty 26 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:28,639 Speaker 1: percent growth. I look, I think this is just now. 27 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: It's showing the next fees of the AAR revolutions now 28 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 1: starting to play out, especially when you combine it with 29 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:40,199 Speaker 1: hyper scalurs and everything we've seen from Pallentier now Snowflake, 30 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: Manga deb the use cases are expanded. 31 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 2: Dan flush out for us the whole China situation. Where 32 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 2: is Nvidia today Visa VI China And how do you 33 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 2: think this is going to play out over the coming 34 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 2: quarters with their age twenty. 35 00:01:54,560 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: Ship Yeah, Paul, Look they're cognmental between us and but 36 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: the reality is Jensen's ten percent politician, ninety percent CEO, 37 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: and Trump administration to know, is big as chip on 38 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: the poker table is in the video. So as this 39 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: all plays out there, it's a pay for play model. 40 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: They're going to have access to China, even if it's restricted, 41 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: and that's going to add and incremental what two five 42 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: six billion per quarter? And you know, even though Beijing's 43 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: saying telling you know, maybe these companies you don't want 44 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: to buy video chips. That's like telling a kid not 45 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: eat candid. Big tech in China wants in video chips. 46 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 3: So I mean, as we dig in here into the 47 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 3: data what we saw from the earnings report, what is 48 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 3: your takeaway in terms of what they were able to 49 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 3: see specifically in terms of data center AI demand. That's 50 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 3: definitely something that's been in focus here with this report. 51 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, look, I think it's noise in terms of any 52 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 1: other quote unquote like miss because when you factored China, 53 00:02:56,639 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: it's basically over a billion and a half feet. They're 54 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:05,119 Speaker 1: seeing demand acceleration. I mean, no region is not showing acceleration. 55 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: And now you're starting to factor what's going to happen 56 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: in Middle East, what's going to happen in China, It's 57 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: gonna to rest of the world, and you're really talking 58 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: about one chip that's fueling it. So when I look 59 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: in a video, I think there's a five trillion dollar 60 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: mark cap potent by a year under early twenty six, 61 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: and it's just further validation for the AI revolution basis. 62 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 2: So talk to us DAN about their customer base and 63 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 2: the concentration of the customers, and I know they want 64 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 2: to broaden out their customer base, maybe the sovereigns into 65 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 2: other net buyers out there. How do you think that's 66 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 2: going to evolve. 67 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: Big Tech's going to continue dom as a quote unquote 68 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: customer base in terms of the concentration. But now as 69 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: sovereigns play out, as enterprises play out, you're going to 70 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: see more and more people, you know, obviously start to 71 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: understand that this revolution is not just big Tech. It's 72 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: about other sort of regions starting to play. And there's 73 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: only one ship in the world fuel in it, and 74 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: that's in video. 75 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 3: So taking a step back here in video wrapped up 76 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 3: all of the mag seven earnings here. What were your 77 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 3: thoughts more broadly overall this earning season. 78 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I think this is the bullish tech earning season. 79 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: We've talked about it, the validation of the AI revolution, 80 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 1: his next stage of growth. It's spreading, second, third, fourth derivatives. 81 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: Now Grant look in video is a Scottie chauffeur of tech. Okay, 82 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: but what you're just starting to see now play out 83 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: is those derivatives, the spending, the multiplier, it's all happening 84 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 1: and I think that's just bullish going into year end 85 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 1: in terms of tech stocks, and I think this bull 86 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: market has two to three year run still left. 87 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 2: Dan, So as you talk to institutional investors, how are 88 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 2: they viewing this fifteen percent? I don't know government fee 89 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 2: that the US government may impose on some of the 90 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 2: chip sales the China. How's that being viewed by investors? 91 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 1: Look, it's obviously it's unusual. It's a pay for play model, 92 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 1: but guess what, investors, it's new rules of the road, 93 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: right Big tech starting to understand how that works. But 94 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: when it comes in video, Okay, pay fifteen percent, that's breadcrumbs. 95 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: You can raise prices fifteen percent. You need access to China. 96 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: You can't give Huawei on a silver platter that market. 97 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: So as it continues to play out, I think investors 98 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: have accepted they want a video open access to China 99 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: because that continues to be the golden goose that Jensen's 100 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 1: going after. 101 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 3: Dan, I want to quickly go right back to what 102 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 3: we were talking about here when it relates to data centers. 103 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 3: How concentrated is in video's revenue right now? Or like 104 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 3: you know, the top five hyper scalers still the overwhelming 105 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 3: majority of data center sales. 106 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 1: You know, it's concentrated, but that's just the nature right 107 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: now big text three hundred, what fifty during sixty billion, 108 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: But it's going to spread sovereigns, enterprises the rest of 109 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 1: the world. And Vidia is going to continue to own 110 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: that so contry today when you look out three four, 111 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: five years ago, that concentration will continue, I think to 112 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 1: diminish as more players get into AI. But there's one 113 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: chip fueling and it's a video damn. 114 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 2: How do you think about the competitive environment for in 115 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 2: Nvidia here? Is it am D, is it Huawei? Is 116 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 2: it others? We don't know about at the moment. 117 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, but glease is to an AMD clearly competition. I 118 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: think that it would continue to be bullish and that 119 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: in terms of getting more and more pieces of pie. 120 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: Huawei is a competitor. But that's the whole reason that 121 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 1: you don't want to just give them full access to 122 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 1: China because that will help them narrow the gap for 123 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: bullets obviously on broad common others. And I think look 124 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 1: as this plays out, in Vidia is years ahead of 125 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: any other competition. And even when you hear talk about 126 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: you know, US government and obviously, you know Soft Bank 127 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: investing and Intel, I mean Intel is you know, so 128 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 1: many years behind. You know, they continue to really have 129 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,679 Speaker 1: just a massive out pill battle and that's why video 130 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: is top of the mountain. 131 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 2: All right, Dan, your Penn State Nitley Ions opened the 132 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 2: season Saturday, three point thirty pm on the CBS Television network, 133 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 2: compariment plus against Nevada forty three and a half point favorites. 134 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 2: How do you feel about your Nitley Lions this year? 135 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: I mean work, I was at practice last week State College. 136 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: I told you I think this is the year. I 137 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: think we win the nanty. We have some tough games 138 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: in Oregon, Ohio State, but I think Big ten continues 139 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: to hold the mantle. I like al our Singleton and 140 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: Penn ste I think I think we'll be holding the 141 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: trophy in January. 142 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,679 Speaker 2: I like the call naese and clear and confident. Dan Ives, 143 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 2: Globalhead of Technology a Webush Securities appreciate getting a few 144 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 2: minutes of Dan's time here today on Nvidia and big 145 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 2: Tech