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Speaker 1: And welcome in Lake Kicks Live. It is Sunday night,

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Speaker 1: January sixteenth.

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Speaker 2: If you over Lore twenty twenty two, jam Pack high Top,

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Speaker 2: snowy frozen downtown Nashville. But look, I got director Colin

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Speaker 2: I'm here imagine letting your show be canceled by a

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Speaker 2: mere winter storm. We have stared Winter down in the

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Speaker 2: face twice this month and we're two and up. We

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Speaker 2: don't do things like canceling the show. And for that matter,

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Speaker 2: we don't quarterback sneak on what do we have, like

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Speaker 2: less than twenty seconds to go in that game? Believe

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Speaker 2: it or not, we do watch the NFL playoffs here,

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Speaker 2: so the Niners advance on a very very peculiar set

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Speaker 2: of circumstances late in the game. But look, we got

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Speaker 2: Waldawall College football to talk about tonight. There's a blueprint

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Speaker 2: that a lot of you want to know about, and

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Speaker 2: that blueprint is how do we beat the SEC? How

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Speaker 2: do we take down the SEC? Well, firstly, you don't

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Speaker 2: need to take down the SEC. You need to be

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Speaker 2: able to compete with the best teams in the SEC.

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Speaker 2: So let's delineate there let's line in the sandness thing.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to talk about it tonight. Very simple, five

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Speaker 2: or six or seven step process. But these are things

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Speaker 2: that are realistic. These are things that USC easily could do,

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Speaker 2: not easily, these are things they could do.

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Speaker 1: These are things Miami could pull off.

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Speaker 2: North Carolina could pull this off, Michigan could pull this off.

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Speaker 1: So this is not just a Southern thing. They don't

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Speaker 1: have the blueprint.

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Speaker 2: Once you get past a certain longitude latitude, you can't

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Speaker 2: really pull it off anymore.

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Speaker 1: We will discuss tonight.

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Speaker 2: I promise you everything we're gonna list works and it

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Speaker 2: is possible for programs outside the South.

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Speaker 1: Huge portal moves today.

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Speaker 2: Arkansas has made some moves, Florida may be on the

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Speaker 2: precipice of making more moves. Texas has made a big

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Speaker 2: move today. And could we have more than just USC

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Speaker 2: involved with Caleb Williams. I ask that in a very

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Speaker 2: open ended fashion, really really listening to sort of the

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Speaker 2: drum beat from different parts of the country. Some interesting

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Speaker 2: times in the portal. Also, there's some rumors about guys

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Speaker 2: who aren't even in yet but could be in. Looking

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Speaker 2: at Darnell Washington, for instance, at Georgia I'm gonna tell

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Speaker 2: you everything that we know and can responsibly report.

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Speaker 1: Tonight.

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Speaker 2: The Mood Tracker is back. I asked you guys, give

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Speaker 2: me feedback, what do you want more of? And so

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Speaker 2: many of you said, I love the mood Tracker. You

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Speaker 2: know a lot of you are like a New Mexico

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Speaker 2: State fan and you know your team's not necessarily gonna

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Speaker 2: contend for the national championships, not you guys versus Auburn,

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Speaker 2: but you're still fascinated by the inner workings of other programs.

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Speaker 1: It's back.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna do dozens of these throughout the spring, but

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Speaker 2: it's back. We are talking Florida Gator football tonight. I

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Speaker 2: am very, very intrigued by the prospects. Number one, the

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Speaker 2: prospects they're bringing in in terms of recruits, and the

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Speaker 2: number two just the prospects of the program overall. And

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Speaker 2: we got wide ranging versions of the mail bag tonight,

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Speaker 2: late Kick Question and Answer kind of how we do

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Speaker 2: the Late Kick Extra podcast. We've got three or four

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Speaker 2: good ones tonight that if I'm not careful, I'll go

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Speaker 2: an hour or more on and we're not gonna do that.

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Speaker 2: We're responsible. Look, make sure you're following on Twitter and Instagram.

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Speaker 2: At Late Kick, Josh, I got to give a hat

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Speaker 2: tip because we're not really going to talk about this elsewhere.

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Speaker 2: I got a hat tip our friends at Georgia yesterday.

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Speaker 2: If you guys didn't see the National Championship ceremony there,

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Speaker 2: they packed the stadium, so they got like ninety someid

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Speaker 2: There's no substitute for passion. There is no substitute for it.

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Speaker 2: You know how if you were watching college football this year, specifically,

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Speaker 2: the USC game, and inevitably you would see that post

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Speaker 2: Georgia for a trophy presentation yesterday for a parade, had

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Speaker 2: substitute it. It is one of the requirements to fulfill

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Speaker 2: that more in a little while. In fact, i'll start

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Speaker 2: Everyone's issue, or at least a lot of you have

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Speaker 2: much SEC dominance. There's too much regionality to the sport

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Speaker 2: right now. I don't really like that. What can we do?

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Speaker 2: You know, what can we do to beat Alabama or

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Speaker 2: order tough to beat Greg Sanki. You can beat these teams.

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Speaker 2: You can compete with them, it's just not easy. Like,

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Speaker 2: what did Georgia just do. Georgia just showed that if

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Speaker 2: you can win a championship. Now, some people would lead

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Speaker 2: you to believe, well, that's true, but Georgia has access

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Speaker 2: Akron for no particular reason. Yes, they've got access to

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Speaker 1: Of course they don't.

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Speaker 2: What's happening is you had a blueprint, and you had

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Speaker 2: you have to get right to win a championship. That's obvious.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter which conferences, helmet sticker you have on

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Speaker 1: Do it, and you don't have to be Clemson to

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Speaker 2: Like there are several programs out there, if you'll notice,

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Speaker 2: and it's in no correlation whatsoever to what the SEC

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Speaker 2: Let's dive into this though. Oh here's a crazy stat

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Speaker 2: He said, in the past sixteen National Championship Games, there

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Speaker 1: So I said, Jesse, I.

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Speaker 2: Know you came in a little early today and I

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Speaker 2: Over the past sixteen title games. There have been eighteen

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Speaker 2: But it's not just a program thing. It's an athletic

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Speaker 2: can't apologize for it. When someone says we got to

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Speaker 2: pay some attention to the equestrian team, you can be respectful,

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Speaker 2: but you gotta let them know that equestrian team exists

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Speaker 2: because of football. You gotta have football at the front

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Speaker 2: of the train because that's exactly what a locomotive does.

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Speaker 1: It pulls the rest of the train.

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Speaker 2: And you don't apologize for it, and you don't siphon

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Speaker 2: because better football equals more funding for everything else. You

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Speaker 2: Georgia obviously nailed the higher. It goes without saying Alabama

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Speaker 2: it doesn't matter if I ask a nutrition specialist or

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Speaker 1: Everyone's on the same page.

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Speaker 2: And that's because purposeful hiring has been executed. You also

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Speaker 2: have to spend. But you don't just spend Willy Nilly.

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Speaker 2: I always wanted to say that in the natural progression

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Speaker 2: that really really ties closely with hiring with purpose. But

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Speaker 2: you got to spend with purpose. Like right now, Florida,

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Speaker 2: I think they're doing a good job of spending with purpose.

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Speaker 2: Billy Napier, as he came in the door, he asked

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Speaker 2: I'll figure it out later. I guarantee you. Billy Napier

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Speaker 2: had about a fifteen point plan for every dollar that

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Speaker 2: he asked to be allocated towards.

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Speaker 1: Football with That's how you have to be when you spend.

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Speaker 2: You don't just go put a water park in the

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Speaker 2: football complex because you got the extra money. That's spending.

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Speaker 2: It's not spending with purpose. You've got to properly structure

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Speaker 2: the football program. This is to me what's changed the

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Speaker 2: most just over the past five years. Five years ago,

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Speaker 2: downtown Nashville, Tennessee today, and they can make your dreams come.

435
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Speaker 1: True as well.

436
00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,879
Speaker 2: Highly dependent on what that dream is, but they could

437
00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:21,680
Speaker 2: conditionally make those dreams come true.

438
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Speaker 1: Transfer Portal's on fire. It's just on fire.

439
00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,440
Speaker 2: And again, as we have said so many times, there

440
00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,119
Speaker 2: is no sign of it being put it out, So

441
00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,520
Speaker 2: put it out, Colin. There's no way we're putting that

442
00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,520
Speaker 2: in there. So here we go three to one. Transfer

443
00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,720
Speaker 2: portal on fire, no sign of it slowing down. Let's

444
00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,320
Speaker 2: dive right into it. We're sitting here on Sunday night.

445
00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:44,840
Speaker 2: Things have changed even in the past couple of hours,

446
00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:46,800
Speaker 2: so who knows what changes by the time we get

447
00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,760
Speaker 2: off the air. Caleb Williams, this is the big name

448
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:53,080
Speaker 2: out there, the obviously five star quarterback transfer from Oklahoma.

449
00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,320
Speaker 2: What is the very very latest. Well, obviously the crystal

450
00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,840
Speaker 2: ball still leans I believe one hundred percent towards you.

451
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,919
Speaker 2: If I'm putting one in, I'm leaning usc. Here's the

452
00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,280
Speaker 2: million dollar question on everyone's mind. Okay, Well, if it's

453
00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 2: so clear cut, then why hasn't he committed yet? Look,

454
00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,239
Speaker 2: I haven't talked to him today, so I don't know.

455
00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,720
Speaker 2: Here's what I find fun about this. It has been

456
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,680
Speaker 2: my observation in the history of recruiting and a short

457
00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:21,480
Speaker 2: history of the transfer portal, that most of the time,

458
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,760
Speaker 2: when a bunch of reputable people are saying that something

459
00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,400
Speaker 2: is close to done, usually that's the way it works out.

460
00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:29,280
Speaker 1: But there's also this.

461
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,800
Speaker 2: Other phenomenon that happens sometimes, and that is, in the

462
00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:35,680
Speaker 2: absence of real tangible information, one or two little tidbits

463
00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,959
Speaker 2: are run with by everyone and it creates this false

464
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,159
Speaker 2: consensus in the market, and the reality is things are

465
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,679
Speaker 2: a lot more open than they appear. This is a

466
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Speaker 2: complete guess on my part, because I'm not suggesting that's

467
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:53,200
Speaker 2: the case. What I am suggesting is it's very interesting

468
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:54,680
Speaker 2: if you've got to really put your ear to the

469
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:56,640
Speaker 2: ground on this. But if you really put your ear

470
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Speaker 2: to the ground, there are other programs out there that

471
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Speaker 2: have thought in varying points of this, they have a shot.

472
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Speaker 1: The most fascinating to me is Wisconsin.

473
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,399
Speaker 2: Like there are people who would tell you, they wouldn't

474
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Speaker 2: go as far as to say they think Wisconsin will

475
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Speaker 2: land Kayleb Williams.

476
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Speaker 1: They would not tell you that.

477
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,400
Speaker 2: I've not found a single person to tell me that,

478
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,479
Speaker 2: but they would say there's a lot of mutual interest

479
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,479
Speaker 2: the family and Kayleb Williams have respect for Paul Christ

480
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,919
Speaker 2: so who knows. I still fully expect this to be

481
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 2: a USC thing. Mario Williams, the big wide receiver from Oklahoma,

482
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 2: who a lot of people believe is a package deal here,

483
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 2: he has committed to USC.

484
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Speaker 1: I think he did Saturday, so I think he did.

485
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,679
Speaker 2: It yesterday, either yesterday or Friday, so remains to be

486
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 2: seen there. Again, this could change by the time we

487
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Speaker 2: go off the air. Jackson Dart is one we've been

488
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Speaker 2: following very very close. Today, Jackson Dart is leaving usc

489
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Speaker 2: and he's been visiting let's see, Oklahoma and almost recently

490
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 2: today Ole, miss Where's he gonna end up? Well, I

491
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,640
Speaker 2: don't know that there's smart money on this right now,

492
00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,199
Speaker 2: there is confidence in Norman.

493
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Speaker 1: Keep in mind, they.

494
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 2: Already got Dylan Gabriel, though, who let's make sure we

495
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,680
Speaker 2: get this right, transferred to Oklahoma by way of UCLA,

496
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,120
Speaker 2: where he had briefly made a pit stop after transferring

497
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 2: out of UCF. Welcome to the transfer portal era. So

498
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,639
Speaker 2: for the moment, Dylan Gabriel is a quarterback at Oklahoma.

499
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,879
Speaker 2: But look, Jackson Dart could land there, but that's not

500
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Speaker 2: where he is today. He was in Norman earlier this week.

501
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Speaker 2: Today he's in Oxford, Mississippi. I'm scrolling through Twitter earlier

502
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 2: today and I say, Jesse, I think we need to

503
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 2: put this in the show. If you're listening on podcasts,

504
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 2: let me describe what we're looking at. We're looking at

505
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 2: a multimillion dollar home in the background. It snowed in

506
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 2: Oxford today, just like it did in a lot of

507
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,160
Speaker 2: places in the southeast, and we have a vehicle there.

508
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 2: I can't make out the logo on the back. I

509
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,240
Speaker 2: don't think it is used though. I think Lane Kiffen

510
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,439
Speaker 2: probably bought that new And it is Jackson Dart and

511
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin out in the snow.

512
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Speaker 1: You can't immediately tell which one is which, by.

513
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 2: The way, and there they are. They're posing and a

514
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 2: lot of people have drawn confidence from this photo in Oxford, Mississippi.

515
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 2: I would too, like I think this is the better fit.

516
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 2: It just feels like the better fit for him. It

517
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,639
Speaker 2: feels more natural. You've got one big time, big performing

518
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 2: quarterback walking out the door. You could have one walk

519
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:15,400
Speaker 2: straight in the door. So I expected decision here pretty shortly.

520
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,879
Speaker 2: Obviously you got Ole mess Oklahoma. Those feel like the

521
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:23,200
Speaker 2: two front runners. Meanwhile, to keep it in this portion

522
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 2: of the country. Sam Pittman, Oh my, so Arkansas is

523
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,199
Speaker 2: really really up in their game when it comes to

524
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Speaker 2: recruiting and the transfer portal. But today today they took

525
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 2: probably one of the biggest steps we've seen so far.

526
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Speaker 2: Sam Pittman is payt state material. We have long since

527
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 2: established that, but they proved it again today. Drew Sanders,

528
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 2: former five star guy who committed to Alabama, played at

529
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 2: Alabama this past year, probably could have played at a

530
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Speaker 2: high level at tight end as well. He was a

531
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,879
Speaker 2: defensive end for him. He entered the portal, he got hurt,

532
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 2: Dallas Turner emerged. It just didn't look like he was

533
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,880
Speaker 2: going to have an established start role for Alabama. Well,

534
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 2: he absolutely could have one of those for pretty much

535
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 2: anyone else in the country. Texas was involved here, you're

536
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,880
Speaker 2: at some whispers about Oklahoma. Nope, it is Sam Pittman

537
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,199
Speaker 2: and the University of Arkansas that get Drew Sanders. They

538
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:18,639
Speaker 2: already got Jaden Hazelwood, a high level receiver out of Oklahoma.

539
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,400
Speaker 2: And so now again you're seeing Sam Pittman make moves

540
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,439
Speaker 2: in the transfer portal that sound a lot like the

541
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Speaker 2: moves that the big boys like Alabama make, where it's

542
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 2: a lot more like you're just handpicking.

543
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 1: You're kind of cherry picking. Now.

544
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 2: The difference is you also have a traditional high school

545
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,679
Speaker 2: recruiting apparatus that is still rounding into form for Arkansas

546
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 2: under Sam Pittman. Think about where they are relative to

547
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,360
Speaker 2: where you thought they were coming into this past year.

548
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 1: If you're just a.

549
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,160
Speaker 2: Generic you know, a Nebraska fan or Oregon State fan

550
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 2: and you're just watching Arkansas from afar, there's no way

551
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,120
Speaker 2: you thought they were going to make a Bowl game.

552
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,159
Speaker 2: There's certainly no way you thought they were going to

553
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 2: make any discernible noise on the recruiting trail, and yet

554
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 2: there they were, nine and four with an outback bowlory

555
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,360
Speaker 2: on New Year's Day, playing in a lot warmer climate

556
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 2: than your team probably played in.

557
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 1: Chances are nationally.

558
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,719
Speaker 2: And not only that, that nine and four record was

559
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 2: compiled as they played both participants in the national championship game.

560
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 2: That nine and four is good for about a one

561
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 2: loss playoff berth in some other conferences. Arkansas is really

562
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,880
Speaker 2: good this year, and it's kind of only a tip

563
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 2: of the Iceberg thing relative to what many people around

564
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 2: that program think.

565
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 1: They could become.

566
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 2: And the reason is because you cannot quantify culture. So

567
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,719
Speaker 2: many people out there have systems, are self included. We

568
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 2: want a way to quantify everything. We've got star rankings

569
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,719
Speaker 2: on recruits, we got projected scores on games. You cannot

570
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 2: quantify culture. That's one of robots will never run the game.

571
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 2: Humans run the game because humans have heart and soul

572
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 2: inside themselves, but they also have DNA, and in a

573
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 2: very real sense, you cut Sam Pittman open Arkansas, it's

574
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 2: what comes out of him I don't know how to

575
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 2: quantify that. I cannot tell you how much that sort

576
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 2: of thing matters as it relates to where a guy

577
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 2: like Jaden Hayes Wood or Drew Sanders are going to

578
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 2: choose to go via the transfer portal. But I can

579
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 2: tell you it does matter, and I can tell you

580
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 2: a lot of people. In fact, everyone up there is

581
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 2: on board with it. It's really funny that some people

582
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 2: nationally who claim to really follow this sport at a granular,

583
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 2: sort of in the weeds level.

584
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:19,439
Speaker 1: I still don't think.

585
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:20,959
Speaker 2: A lot of people get what's going on at Arkansas

586
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 2: right now, which is fine. We do on this show,

587
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 2: so I want everyone in Arkansas to know we do.

588
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 2: But that was a big move. We'll see what else

589
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 2: Arkansas does in the portal. Jalil Billingsley was another big

590
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 2: name out of Alabama that we've been following. Had a

591
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,919
Speaker 2: bad performance in the National Championship game. It was the

592
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 2: least shocking headline ever to read that he was leaving

593
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 2: Alabama shortly after that National Championship game. He has landed

594
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,640
Speaker 2: at Texas, so this is what we expected the other day.

595
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 2: I'm very interested to see how this pans out because

596
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 2: there's a school of thought that he was a better

597
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 2: fit under Sarker's obviously the head coach of Texas now.

598
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,160
Speaker 2: So Juluil Billingsley, you definitely want to hit the fresh

599
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 2: start restore button and you get him out there and

600
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 2: you know, perhaps he performs more as a jumbo wide

601
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 2: receiver than a traditional tight end. Not that he was

602
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 2: a traditional tight end at Alabama, but Jalil Billingsley at

603
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 2: Texas now is another part, just one more cog in

604
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 2: the wheel of an incredible overnight reshaping of a program

605
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 2: that's going on in Austin. Also, Jalen Moody, linebacker from Alabama,

606
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 2: was in Austin. I think he's got an Arizona visit

607
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 2: coming up. But these are two more guys that could

608
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 2: be coming out of Tuscaloosa that could very well land

609
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 2: in Austin. One already has. Jalil Billingsley made that official today.

610
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 2: Keep in mind they got Ben Davis last year from Alabama.

611
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 2: They got Keelan Robinson from Alabama. And I don't think

612
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 2: it's the worst strategy in the world when you're trying

613
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 2: to overturn a program to take as many kids who

614
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 2: couldn't quite cut it at Alabama as necessary because they

615
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 2: are very good players. Billingsley played at Bama. Jalen Moody

616
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 2: has played at Bama. Keelan Robinson had he not transferred,

617
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 2: would have apps'bsolutely been a key role at Alabama this year. Also,

618
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 2: Javon Baker one more guy leaving Alabama surprise visit to

619
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 2: Florida this weekend. Now the semester, as I understand it

620
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 2: has already started at Florida. But there are special exceptions

621
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 2: that can be made, which is the only way university

622
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 2: should be run when it comes to football. There are

623
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 2: exceptions that can be made where if Javon Baker decides

624
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 2: Florida as the place for him, he can pull the trigger.

625
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 2: They can get him in classes down there. Now, that

626
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 2: has to happen pretty quickly, so keep an eye on this.

627
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 2: Javon Baker. I stood probably on the field for a

628
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 2: good five to ten minutes and watched him and a

629
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 2: couple of other Bama receivers warm up. He looks good, man,

630
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 2: all I mean, if you're playing at Bama, you look good.

631
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 2: He was a step slow in relation to a lot

632
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 2: of the guys they've had come through there. That mean

633
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 2: he's slow I said he was a step slow relative

634
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 2: to guys like Jalen Wabble who have come through there,

635
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 2: so there aren't many of those on planet Earth. Javon

636
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 2: Baker is going to be a good player for whoever

637
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 2: picks him up. One other name as we move here,

638
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 2: that is not in the transfer portal. But there's a

639
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 2: lot of noise about Nu's Darnell Washington, big six seven,

640
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 2: two hundred and seventy pounds tight end, or as you

641
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 2: might know him in generation's past, an offensive tackle. But

642
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,719
Speaker 2: he's at Georgia. Here's what I can tell you. He

643
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 2: came home from Indianapolis when they won the National championship game.

644
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 2: He was in class As of last Wednesday, he is

645
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 2: still enrolled at the University of Georgia. There are people

646
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 2: who believe that it is imminent that he will enter

647
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 2: the transfer portal. I know he erased his Georgia insignia

648
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 2: off of his social media channels. Look, I've been in

649
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 2: contact with some people around the program today.

650
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Speaker 1: All you can talk about is what is real here

651
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: and now?

652
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 2: And what's real here and now is at least as

653
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 2: we started the show tonight, he's not in the portal yet.

654
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 2: Could that change before the night's over. Yeah, it sure

655
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 2: could if it did. There are a lot of people

656
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 2: on the West coast at USC who think they would

657
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 2: have a good shot there. And that's about all we

658
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 2: know so far. Dot dot That's pretty much why we

659
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 2: have to do a transfer portal segment every single show.

660
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 2: All right, let's move on, let me call for a second.

661
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 2: There we go. The mood Tracker is obviously a fan favorite,

662
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 2: one of your favorite segments that we do. Now here's

663
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 2: the way we fashion this. It's a reminder because we

664
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 2: haven't done one of these in a while. The mood Tracker,

665
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 2: which we will do for dozens of programs between now

666
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 2: and the end of spring, is where we look at

667
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 2: your program and what we want to do. For instance,

668
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 2: we're doing Florida tonight. We want to take the temperature

669
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 2: of the Florida fan base and we want to present

670
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 2: it in such a way that if you're not a

671
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 2: Florida fan, if you're an Oklahoma State fan, we want

672
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 2: you to have a good working knowledge of what the

673
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 2: real on the ground pulse is, not the stuff you

674
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 2: just read in headlines, not the stuff you may see

675
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 2: in a preview magazine later this summer, an actual temperature.

676
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 2: You know, the kind of read that you get when

677
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 2: you engage with fans and you're kind of woven into

678
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 2: the subcultures, like the folks over on Swamp twenty four

679
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 2: sevens board. Some of them love me, some of them

680
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 2: hate me. That's why I just lurk. I lurk over there,

681
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 2: and I've been lurking a lot. And I've also got

682
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 2: several Florida buddies. So look the mood tracker for Florida

683
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 2: right now, fascinating. I want to first remind you of something.

684
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 2: Think about what you thought about Dan Mullen this past season,

685
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 2: and then ask yourself, did you develop that opinion during

686
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty one season, because I think for most

687
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 2: of you the answer is no. Whatever you thought, whatever

688
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 2: issues you had with Dan Mullen, they weren't new, they

689
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 2: weren't developed along the way during the twenty twenty one season.

690
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 2: Whether it was the defensive issues they had and Todd Grantham,

691
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 2: whether it was a culture issue you had, whether it

692
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 2: was woeful recruiting when you compared yourself to Georgia or

693
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 2: Alabama or the like, those were already issues. For better

694
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 2: or for worse, those were issues before twenty twenty one.

695
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 2: And the reason why I mentioned that they were all

696
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 2: pre existing to some degree is to make sure you

697
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 2: understand there have been Florida fans who have been banging

698
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 2: the drum for changes in various departments within that overall

699
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 2: athletic infrastructure down there for quite a while. And the

700
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 2: reason that they became lukewarm towards Dan Mullen or maybe

701
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 2: the athletic department and administration as a hole down there

702
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 2: because they didn't feel like they were heard. They certainly

703
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 2: didn't feel like their opinions were being respected. Some of

704
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 2: them tuned out, some of them said forget this. I mean,

705
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 2: I'm still orange and Blue till I die. However, I'm

706
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 2: not going to invest fully with my emotion if no

707
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 2: one even cares what I think. Well, that's why we

708
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 2: arrive at the Florida Mood Tracker right now, because even

709
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 2: though there has not been a game played with this

710
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 2: new staff yet, I think the mood tracker down there

711
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 2: could be best described as heard and respected. Whether you're

712
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 2: a player, very important note, whether you're a player or

713
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 2: a fan at Florida, at the very least, now you

714
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 2: know you've been heard and respected. If you're a player.

715
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 2: They thought the nutrition sucked down there. They hated the food.

716
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 2: Billy Napier wall walked in and one of the first

717
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 2: of many things he did was he overhauled the nutrition staff.

718
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 2: He looked around and he said, wow, you're right, this

719
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 2: is not good enough. They had the players living in

720
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 2: very subpar dorm conditions, especially when it comes to comparing

721
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 2: yourself to the other big boys in the SEC and

722
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 2: just major programs in general. Billy Napier walked in just

723
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 2: in the past couple of days. They announced, Nope, you're

724
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,760
Speaker 2: not staying over here anymore. Like we'll use these places

725
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 2: that they were making you live in to store.

726
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: Sleds and pads and stuff. That's about what they're fit for.

727
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 2: I mean, some of the Florida players had been quoted

728
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 2: as comparing their dormitories to Section eight housing. That's what

729
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 2: they had described their living conditions as. So they're putting

730
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 2: them in some pretty upscale kind of apartment complex type

731
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,839
Speaker 2: things down there. It's a good move. It is so necessary.

732
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Speaker 2: By the way, you never think about this, do you. You

733
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,240
Speaker 2: don't know it because that stuff doesn't get publicized. It matters.

734
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 2: It matters so much what about the fans though, like

735
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 2: where's their voice being heard? Well, Stadium enhancements are immediately

736
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 2: on on the way. Facility upgrades are immediately on the way.

737
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 2: But also Billy Napier walked in and he didn't need

738
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 2: to hear the fans say this to know it. But

739
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 2: the fans have been saying it and it's been acknowledged.

740
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 2: They just took a blowtorch to every Florida recruiting stereotype

741
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 2: that ever existed.

742
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:17,240
Speaker 1: Under Dan Mullen.

743
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 2: You can't get kids from IMG Boom signing day, get

744
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 2: kissed MIMG. I know I've been on the job five minutes.

745
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 2: Let's go attack IMG anyway, the transfer portal. They have

746
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 2: been constant in it, recruiting every day, They've been constant

747
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 2: in it. Again, he's just been on the job like

748
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 2: a month. Think about it if you're a Florida fan,

749
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 2: if you live in Okawa and you have subscriptions to

750
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 2: all the websites, but you've just kind of been tuned

751
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 2: down because you knew that recruiting really wasn't worth following

752
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 2: a whole heck of a lot under Dan Mullen. Think

753
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 2: about how engaged you've been how many times on average

754
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 2: per day. Do you check for updates and recruiting in

755
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 2: the transfer portal? Now under Napier relative to the prior administration,

756
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 2: you're heard the things you didn't like about the program.

757
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 2: They heard them, and they addressed them. And I want

758
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 2: you to remember too, things whether you're a Gator fan

759
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 2: or elsewhere, remember a couple of things here, because this reeks,

760
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 2: absolutely reeks in a positive way of what it felt

761
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 2: like when Ohio State hired Ryan Day. Now, Ryan Day

762
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 2: was already in the Ohio State program, Napier wasn't. But Florida,

763
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 2: much like Ohio State, had several options. Florida had some

764
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 2: big names on the hook if they wanted them, just

765
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 2: like Ohio State did, And just like Ohio State, when

766
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 2: they hired Ryan Day, Florida said no thanks, we got

767
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,280
Speaker 2: our guy. And there were circus coaching searches going on elsewhere,

768
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 2: and you had the administration at Florida with their ducks

769
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,919
Speaker 2: in a row. They decided what they wanted to prioritize.

770
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 2: They found the guy that fit those parameters, and they

771
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 2: went and hired him. It was about as clean a

772
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 2: major coaching search as you'll ever see. It's important to

773
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 2: note it wasn't a last resort. They had options. Whatever

774
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 2: they wanted, whatever they were looking for, they found in

775
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 2: Billy Napier. And the second thing that you need to

776
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 2: know for future reference is a lot of people in

777
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 2: the inn industry, certainly the media industry, but forget about

778
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 2: the media industry, A lot of people in the football

779
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 2: coaching industry had their doubts when Florida hired Napier. Now

780
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,879
Speaker 2: some of them still do, but I can tell you

781
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 2: quite confidently from talking to a few of them, a

782
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,919
Speaker 2: lot of their doubts have been silenced because their main

783
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 2: doubts never lied in whether Billy Napier knows football, or

784
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 2: whether he's a good upstanding guy, whether he understands how

785
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 2: to get buy in. What they doubted is what kind

786
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 2: of staff he could put together. Well, they've watched the

787
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 2: staff he's put together. And not only that. When Napier

788
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,439
Speaker 2: walked in the door down there, one of the first

789
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 2: things he asked for was, I need additional funds allocated

790
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 2: because I've got to have a bigger staff than Dan

791
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 2: Mullen had. I got to have a big staff. I

792
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 2: got to have an army of support staffers. We got

793
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 2: to fill roles that don't even exist here right now.

794
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 2: And to their credit, the University of Florida did not

795
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 2: tell him, well, give us some results first. Nope, nope,

796
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 2: that's not how it works down here on the front

797
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 2: end to get the results on the back end. This

798
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,760
Speaker 2: is not like a hot prospect coming up from TRIPAA

799
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 2: and he plays a few years and he goes into arbitration. No, no, no,

800
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 2: you got to pay now, and then you can fill

801
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 2: out an entire laundry list of different analyst roles and

802
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 2: support staff roles. We're not even talking about the assistant

803
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 2: coaches and coordinators. You got to have them all, and

804
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 2: Billion Napier's getting them all. So look, I don't know

805
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 2: how they're gonna fare in year one. We haven't even

806
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 2: gotten to the spring game. I would love to get

807
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 2: down there at some point in the spring or summer

808
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 2: and just meet some of these guys. Look at the

809
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 2: staff if you're watching on YouTube, a lot of new

810
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 2: names down there. There is a lot of confidence, and

811
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 2: at the very least, if nothing else, if you're a

812
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 2: Florida fan, you know that your voice has finally been

813
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 2: heard and there is at least some respect, finally, after

814
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 2: what seems like forever being paid to what you have

815
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 2: perceived as problems in your program for a long time.

816
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,879
Speaker 2: And that is a good thing. That's a very good thing,

817
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 2: as is anyone who's watching live. The show's not over yet,

818
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 2: but any one who's watching live, thank you. Make sure

819
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 2: you like the video and subscribe.

820
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: To the channel.

821
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 2: Hey, by the way, I never do this, but I

822
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,359
Speaker 2: have something to plug here now. I'm gonna do it

823
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 2: right now, and then I'm gonna remind you again because

824
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 2: we got some Q and A to do. Our buddies

825
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 2: at college football Nerds, i'm told, are doing a live

826
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 2: broadcast tonight at nine o'clock Eastern, eighth Central. Smartly, they

827
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 2: are waiting till we get off the air so that

828
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 2: I will give them the plug, and I am giving

829
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 2: it to him, real talk. Those guys are two of

830
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,399
Speaker 2: my best friends in this business, and back in the day,

831
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 2: once upon a time I was hesitant to dive into

832
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 2: the YouTube world, and they convinced me to dive into

833
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 2: the YouTube world. So if we ever roll credits on

834
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 2: the show, I may put in very very small, like

835
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:47,760
Speaker 2: two point font.

836
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: But I may very small font put Daniel.

837
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 2: Josh after a long space of black so maybe some

838
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 2: of you have already tuned out, but they're gonna do

839
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,399
Speaker 2: I think a whole twenty twenty one recap tonight. I'm

840
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 2: gonna do this some point too. What I want to

841
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 2: do is just like a Renaissance tour recap. There are

842
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 2: so many untold stories I have, and I got to

843
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 2: figure out the right formatting. We may even have guests

844
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 2: on to do it. I got a couple of people

845
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:14,320
Speaker 2: I've talked to about this, people you would recognize, suffice

846
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 2: it to say, but they're going to do theirs tonight.

847
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 2: So college football nerds, you should be subscribing to the

848
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 2: channel already if you're not nine Eastern eighth Central, So

849
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 2: in like twenty minutes, basically, I may hop on there

850
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 2: with them. We'll see how the internet works. Let's dive

851
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 2: into Q and A right quick, and then we'll get

852
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 2: out of here. Turner Kirby first up, he said, if

853
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 2: you could revise pre twenty twenty college football overtime rules

854
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 2: in any way, what would it be? Would you move

855
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 2: the ball back, would you have no field goals allowed?

856
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 2: What kind of revisions would you make? So now you

857
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 2: know we have this ridiculous thing where you end up

858
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 2: in a two point shootout, and it's not even football.

859
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 2: The Iron Bowl, for instance, this past year ended this way.

860
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 2: I was driving through a snowstorm in Detroit as it

861
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 2: was going on, so I get to the rental car

862
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 2: company at the airport and it cannot believe the final score.

863
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 2: Here's the change I would make, and this is the

864
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 2: change I always would have made. I never liked that

865
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 2: college overtime started at the twenty five yard line. I

866
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 2: don't care about the formatting. I don't like where the

867
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 2: ball starts. I would like every overtime period to have

868
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 2: you starting at the forty yard line, where if you

869
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 2: are starting in field goal range, it's very much fringe

870
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,479
Speaker 2: field goal range. That's a bomb field goal. I want

871
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,280
Speaker 2: you to at least have to pick up a first

872
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 2: down before you get in comfortable field goal territory. Outside

873
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 2: of that, I'd keep everything the same, because to me,

874
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,760
Speaker 2: if you're moving the starting field position back to the forty,

875
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 2: the odds of us going three or four or five

876
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:42,720
Speaker 2: overtimes are so minuscule at that point that if it happens,

877
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 2: I don't even care what you make the rule after

878
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 2: three overtimes. I don't really care because I think we

879
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 2: may get there once every several years, and if we do,

880
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 2: we do. But look, I'm going to tell you now,

881
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 2: and this is going to be unpopular. I would prefer

882
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 2: a game to end in a tie. I'm serious about this,

883
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 2: Then for a game to end the way that we

884
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 2: end them as we speak, because at least if I'm

885
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 2: ending in a tie, I watched an actual football game

886
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 2: be played to its conclusion and the teams just scored

887
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 2: the same amount of points. Of course, I don't advocate

888
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 2: for ties. What I'm saying is if you compete based

889
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 2: on the rules of the game to a certain point,

890
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 2: and then they just totally change how the game's played,

891
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 2: and we have options, and some committee has decided that's

892
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 2: how it should work, it's stupidity, As is usually the

893
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 2: case when you see a stupid rule, a bunch of

894
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 2: people who have never laced a chin strap in their

895
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 2: life are the ones deciding it. No one who played

896
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 2: the game, and most people who haven't played the game,

897
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 2: but just watch it with common sense, like where overtime

898
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 2: is right now? And when's the last time you heard

899
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,439
Speaker 2: someone say, you know what, I love college football overtime rules.

900
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:52,240
Speaker 1: Kind of like targeting.

901
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 2: No one loves where it is right now stands to

902
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 2: reason we should probably change that. And when I'm college

903
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,879
Speaker 2: football commissioner, we will let me move this laptop over here.

904
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 2: Next up is from Larry Hunter. This is an interesting question.

905
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 2: I'll just let you think along with me here. Larry said,

906
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 2: I know NFL draft eligible players can get an evaluation

907
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 2: prior to declaring. How about a system where a transfer

908
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 2: portal player gets the same. So right now, if I'm

909
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 2: going into the draft or thinking about it, I get

910
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 2: a draft grade and then I decide whether I want

911
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 2: to go or come back for my senior year. Well,

912
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 2: Larry's saying, what about a kid who wants to enter

913
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 2: the transfer portal? Why don't they have a committee set

914
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 2: up where that kid gets an evaluation.

915
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 1: Just like a guy maybe leaving for the draft.

916
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 2: He continues, would that reduce the number of guys entering

917
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 2: the transfer portal and maybe help rein in the student

918
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 2: athlete model instead of free agent? And that's what we

919
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 2: currently have. So here's my thought on this. I love

920
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 2: the concept. The concept is one thing. How you execute

921
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,879
Speaker 2: it is totally different because in the NFL everything is centralized,

922
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 2: whereas in college football everything is decentralized. Everything is fragmented,

923
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 2: and everyone acts in their own best interest. Sometimes that's

924
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 2: a good thing, sometimes that's a bad thing. In this case,

925
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 2: I'm not sure how this would work because I don't

926
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 2: know how much motivation there is in the SEC to

927
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 2: potentially provide assistance to pack twelve players or pack twelve

928
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 2: programs participating in giving an accurate gauge to a kid.

929
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 2: To me, if I'm Texas A and M and a

930
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 2: kid's transferring from Clemson and I want him, I don't

931
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 2: want a system set up where that kid gets a

932
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 2: good faith review of his options. I just want to

933
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 2: go behind the curtain and tell him you can come here.

934
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 2: We've got a spot for you. That's how I want

935
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 2: it to work. And so I don't think there's going

936
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,240
Speaker 2: to be I don't think there's going to be nearly

937
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 2: as much benefit selfishly from the program's point of views

938
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 2: to help out with this, And so I don't know

939
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 2: how much. I don't know how much. I don't know

940
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,760
Speaker 2: how much buy in you would get. That's my problem.

941
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 2: I think for the betterment overall of the student athlete,

942
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:05,359
Speaker 2: it's a phenomenal idea. Who's participating in it who's on

943
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 2: your advisory board, and how many people on that advisory

944
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,879
Speaker 2: board are motivated to give you honest feedback. Those are

945
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 2: just some of the early thoughts I had there. I'd

946
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 2: be interested in feedback on that though. Next up is Noah,

947
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 2: He said, If expanding the college football playoff is not

948
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 2: the answer, how do you keep NFL prospects playing in

949
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 2: bowl games and finishing the season.

950
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: Well, this is where.

951
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 2: The truth pill has to come in. The answer, given

952
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 2: where we are right now, is that you probably don't

953
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 2: have a way to keep a lot of these NFL

954
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:39,720
Speaker 2: kids playing in bowl games.

955
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: That's the mess that's been made.

956
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 2: With not only the playoff, but the way the playoff

957
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 2: has been structured and marketed and presented. Now what I

958
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,399
Speaker 2: mean by that, obviously, is in two thousand and eight,

959
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 2: no one ever set out bowl games. No one did it,

960
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 2: or if they did, it was one in a million.

961
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 2: No one did. And then the playoff came around, and

962
00:45:58,280 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 2: you get the whole who's in era and the freight

963
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 2: meaningless bowl game comes into the equation, and then all

964
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 2: of a sudden, you got kids who are convinced that

965
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 2: they get told so often all that matters is playoff games,

966
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 2: and if you're not in a playoff game, you are

967
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 2: lesser than, and those bowl games are lesser than. And

968
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,760
Speaker 2: they listened and they started opting out. Well, the answer

969
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 2: to this question is, you can't put that toothpaste back

970
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 2: in the tube, and I don't pretend you can't. I

971
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,479
Speaker 2: do not have any kind of formula short of paying

972
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 2: every kid two million dollars play in a game. I

973
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 2: don't have a formula that makes Kenny Pickett opt back

974
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 2: in to play for pitt I don't have any formula

975
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 2: that makes Kenneth Walker the third opt back in to

976
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 2: play for Michigan State. I know what some of you

977
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 2: are screaming right now. Some of you are screaming, I've

978
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,879
Speaker 2: got the formula expand the playoff where that's a playoff game.

979
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 2: You didn't solve the issue at all there. You didn't

980
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,879
Speaker 2: solve anything. First off, I've got a myriad of different

981
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 2: issues with that. But the fact of the matter is

982
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 2: you expand your playoff Like the most realistic proposals we've

983
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 2: seen don't take expansion beyond twelve. So you add a

984
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 2: few more teams into what are then playoff games instead

985
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 2: of high level bowl games. That's great, what you just

986
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:07,720
Speaker 2: did is the net result is we lost more because

987
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 2: now for sure the remainder of the bowl games are

988
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 2: viewed as meaningless and they.

989
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: Might as well fall off a cliff. And so what

990
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 1: have we.

991
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 2: Really done there? I don't think we've done anything. Your

992
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 2: championship stays the same. I mean, I just looked at

993
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 2: a graphic that Fox Sports College Football put out before

994
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 2: we came on the air, and it showed Bama and

995
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 2: it showed North Dakota State. Comparative analysis one of them

996
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 2: plays and what some of you call an invitational. Alabama

997
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 2: benefits from an invitational. We don't have a real playoff

998
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,399
Speaker 2: over here, so there's no parody. And then you got

999
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,439
Speaker 2: North Dakota State over there that participates at a level

1000
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 2: of football where a lot of you tell me that

1001
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 2: parody inducing real playoff structure is and there is dominant

1002
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 2: or more dominant than Alabama is. You're not changing the outcome.

1003
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 2: You're just making a mess of things in the process

1004
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 2: and probably deluding a vast majority of the preseason, not preseason,

1005
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:00,879
Speaker 2: regular season to get to the same. It's never made

1006
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 2: sense to me. I know all the arguments. You can

1007
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 2: save it, you can spare me the time, I know

1008
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 2: all the arguments against it, I'm still still in the

1009
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 2: same camp. Last question here from Aaron. He said, it's

1010
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 2: more of a statement than a question. Tampa Bay versus Philadelphia.

1011
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 2: I guess he was watching the game today, blowout City.

1012
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 2: He said, that's an example of an expanded playoff game,

1013
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 2: which he is right about. The NFL even expanded their

1014
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 2: playoff further. He said, it's another blowout. If the college

1015
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,919
Speaker 2: football playoff has enough blowouts already, we don't need any more,

1016
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 2: do we.

1017
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 1: He said, I know you agree.

1018
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,760
Speaker 2: Well, of course I agree, But I want to say this.

1019
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:37,879
Speaker 2: This is where I try and be careful because I'm

1020
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 2: not going to anecdotally use a couple of examples from

1021
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 2: the NFL to try and make my argument that would

1022
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 2: still remain even if both of these games were barn

1023
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:51,720
Speaker 2: burners today. Yeah, those games were blowouts today they weren't

1024
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 2: worth watching to me. But look, even if they were

1025
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 2: both overtime thrillers. It's an apples to bowling balls comparison

1026
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 2: to look at the NFL and then juxtapose it to

1027
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 2: college football. But the fact that in the NFL, where

1028
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 2: all of the talent is pushed to the middle of

1029
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:11,359
Speaker 2: the pool can still provide blowouts in their early round

1030
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 2: playoff games. Yes, and acdotally is all the more reason

1031
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 2: to believe you just get a bunch of that in

1032
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 2: the college football playoff as well. Here's what would break

1033
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 2: my heart. It would break my heart to watch Ohio

1034
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 2: State Michigan as I saw it this year, and that's

1035
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,320
Speaker 2: a classic that that's a memory that lasts a lifetime.

1036
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 2: But then we're leaving the Big House and in a

1037
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 2: new world, we're saying, instead of ooh Ohio State's out,

1038
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 2: Michigan punched their tickets the Big title game.

1039
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: They're probably going to the playoff.

1040
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 2: We're saying, well, Ohio State, yeah, I mean they're still

1041
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 2: going to playoff obviously, they just they're gonna have a

1042
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 2: lower seed. Now, that just completely erodes away the meaning

1043
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,280
Speaker 2: of that game for everyone not named Michigan.

1044
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: It's still a big rivalry win for them.

1045
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 2: But for someone who lives in Cheyenne, Wyoming, they watch

1046
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 2: it and they say, well, there's nothing really truly on

1047
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:00,800
Speaker 2: the line there because Ohio State is still going to

1048
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 2: make the playoff. Then what happens is you get in

1049
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:07,439
Speaker 2: a playoff and the deeper, more talented teams are going

1050
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 2: to have a disproportionate advantage in any postseason format, especially

1051
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 2: in the game of football. And so what happens is

1052
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,879
Speaker 2: Ohio State faces like like a thirteen seed or something

1053
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 2: like that, and they run them out of the building

1054
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 2: because that's exactly what they'd do. And whereas in the

1055
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 2: old model, Ohio State wouldn't have had a shot to

1056
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 2: win a title cause they're not even in the playoff,

1057
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,879
Speaker 2: you get in a new model where the same teams

1058
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 2: are going to be there at the end. You're gonna

1059
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:36,800
Speaker 2: have Bama, Georgia, Ohio State, and you're gonna.

1060
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: Watch and you're gonna say, hold on a second.

1061
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 2: So the net result here is we're getting a bunch

1062
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 2: of blowouts in the early rounds. But we're also allowing

1063
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 2: a trapdoor for teams like Ohio State that lost two

1064
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:49,959
Speaker 2: games in the regular season and previously they just would

1065
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 2: have been out of the equation and we got to

1066
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:52,919
Speaker 2: look at them and say, tough luck.

1067
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 1: Should have won your games.

1068
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 2: We've now built a trap door voluntarily where that team

1069
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 2: loaded with talent gets in the playoff does exactly what

1070
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 2: loaded teams with the second chance get to do in

1071
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 2: a playoff, and they're ending up right there. Instead of

1072
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 2: the Cinderella stories we thought we were gonna get, because

1073
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 2: this is not basketball. Instead of the Cinderella stories we

1074
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 2: thought we were gonna get, we just get a bunch

1075
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 2: of Ohio State and Alabama. We just get a bunch

1076
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 2: of Georgia and Oklahoma. That's what your expanded playoff gave you.

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Speaker 2: And then and only then would you realize, Wow, I

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Speaker 2: don't like this so much.

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Speaker 1: Can we go back?

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Speaker 2: And you look behind you and the bridge is burned

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Speaker 2: and your regular seasons eroded away in the process. Not

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Speaker 2: interested in that at all. All right, good show tonight.

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Speaker 2: We have got Yeah, we got.

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Speaker 1: Off in time. I thought for some reason we went

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Speaker 1: past eight.

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Speaker 2: So remember our buddies at College Football Nerds doing a

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Speaker 2: live broadcast that'll tune into in about nine minutes. So

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Speaker 2: go check them out, give them a subscription if you

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Speaker 2: haven't already.

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Speaker 1: Big Time preends of the program. Appreciate you guys for

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Speaker 1: joining us. We're here all week.

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Speaker 2: We got a lay Kick Extra podcast that I think

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Speaker 2: may go over an hour. We'll release that either Tuesday

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Speaker 2: morning or Wednesday morning. I'm playing around with some ideas

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Speaker 2: with the lake Kick Extra possible just stay tuned there

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Speaker 2: and I can overhaul it, but we may make teamer

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Speaker 2: with it just a little bit. Until then, for direct

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Speaker 2: to color for producer Jesse, I'm Josh Baatee. Have yourselves

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Speaker 2: a great start to your week and God blessed