1 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to wok F Daily with 2 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 1: Meet your Girl Danielle Moody, recording from the Home Bunker. Folks, 3 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: I hope that those of you who our fathers had 4 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: a wonderful Father's Day weekend. You know, I was home 5 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: on Long Island, celebrating my dad and just spending time 6 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: with my family. And you know, I have to say 7 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: that one I find and I realize again coming from 8 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: a place of privilege, that I love my family. My 9 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: family loves me. I enjoy spending time with them. I 10 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: am well into, you know, very very adult age, and 11 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: I have enjoyed the maturation of my relationship with my parents. 12 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: And I just like when I have the opportunity to 13 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: go home and visit, which is probably more so than 14 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: most people unless you live in the same town. I'm 15 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: just able to refocus on what's important and what matters. 16 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: Like sure, I will sit and I'll you know, talk 17 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: like a little bit of politics, but honestly not really. 18 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: The focus is on joy and spending good times together 19 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: and creating memories. And I think that it is really 20 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 1: important to remind ourselves that there is only so much 21 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: that we can do right. You can post you can share, 22 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: you can donate, you can educate, you can try and 23 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: push this country your representatives to be better. But in 24 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: that pushing, I also want folks to recognize when it's 25 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: time to just relax, when it's like, you don't have 26 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: to show how woke and conscious you are by making 27 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: every single waking moment about injustice, oppression, trauma and all 28 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: of these things. I think that the way to also 29 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: show solidarity is through joy and through gratitude, right like 30 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: living in gratitude. I thought about how many fathers have 31 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: been stripped from their families, from their communities, whether it 32 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 1: be through genocide that is happening in Gaza and Congo 33 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: and Sudan, whether it is you know, the jail system, 34 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: the money making scheme of a system in the United 35 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: States that is locked up and stripped more Black men 36 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: and Latino men from their families and their communities, you know. 37 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: And so it is a point of gratitude to have 38 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: a loving, intact family and intact I just mean that, 39 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: like we're all still living healthy and I'm grateful for that, 40 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: and I'm just you know, I'm reminded as I start, 41 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: you know, this week, to even when things are grim 42 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: as they are, even when we know that the Supreme 43 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: Court has one final ruling that will maybe the death 44 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: blow to this country. Hold the people that you love closer, 45 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: you know, really be present in moments of joy, like 46 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: truly present, because it's what keeps us going and it 47 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: is what fuels us. Coming up next, my conversation with 48 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: the Communications director to the LGBTQ Task Force on the 49 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: responsibility of media, Kathy Renner joins WOKF to continue our 50 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: Pride Month coverage. That conversation is coming up next, Folks. 51 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: I am very excited to welcome to WOKF Daily. No 52 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 1: stranger to WOKF Daily, actually Kathy Renner, who is a 53 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 1: Communications director at the National LGBTQ Task Force. You all 54 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: know this organization as I have had the pleasure to 55 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: interview some of your incredible people in the field, your 56 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: incredible executive director, and so I'm excited to talk to 57 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 1: you today, Kathy, about you know, it's Pride, right and 58 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: you know Pride Month is a busy month. It's usually 59 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 1: a very celebratory month for the queer community. But I 60 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 1: want to know how you and the Task Force are 61 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: kind of walking in to this Pride Month where where 62 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: your thoughts and kind of feelings are at this moment. 63 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 2: Thanks Danielle, and we cannot tell you how much we 64 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 2: appreciate you and this podcast and your work. You know, 65 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 2: it's almost like every May of the media wakes up 66 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 2: and says, oh wait, it's Pride again coming. So you know, 67 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 2: there's that annual having to re educate and reframe and 68 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 2: reposition the media because they're always their biggest question is 69 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 2: you know, what are the big issues for Pride this year? 70 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 2: And it's not like they've changed very much right in 71 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 2: the past several years, but I think for the task 72 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 2: Force this year in particular with the election coming up, 73 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 2: as are most folks who are thinking about Pride frankly, 74 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 2: whether it's organizations or Pride organizers or just the individuals 75 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 2: that we're talking to out in the world, they're very 76 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 2: focused on the election like that is looming. And you know, 77 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 2: as you know, I think I've heard this phrase, I 78 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 2: don't know a thousand times in the last few weeks. 79 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 2: Everyone says this is the most important election of my life, 80 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 2: that this is like the sixth of the most right. 81 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 2: So it just keeps happening over and over and the 82 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 2: reality is that we need to be out there. And 83 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 2: you know, I've also worked on Big Prides so well, 84 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 2: fifty Washington, d C. Pride, Prides. You know, prides different 85 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 2: things to different people. But what I always say at 86 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 2: the end of the day is it is our opportunity 87 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 2: to show our power, to show our strength, to show 88 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 2: our diversity, and to show as a community that we may, 89 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 2: even if we don't agree on all things, that we 90 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 2: are unified in wanting to move forward as a people. 91 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 2: And so we were doing a lot of more virtual 92 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 2: online stuff in terms of organizing related to the election 93 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 2: and our career the vote campaign, but that's on hold. 94 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 2: It's time to get out there. It's time to be 95 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 2: with the people. And so we have already started dispatching 96 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 2: our staff. We've had folks at Pittsburgh Pride and Kissie Pride, 97 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 2: in Miami Beach Pride, and you know, we have an 98 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 2: office in Miami. We do a tremendous spot of work 99 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 2: in Florida. Florida is obviously an incredibly important state for 100 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 2: so many reasons, not just for our queer community. I mean, 101 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,239 Speaker 2: our work in Florida is also you know, engaged around 102 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 2: the ballot initiatives, whether the abortunate right extension or the 103 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 2: marijuana legalization. So you know, we're at DC trans Pride, right, 104 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 2: we're working to We're going to Harlan Pride in New 105 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 2: York City. You know, we have well over a dozen 106 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 2: that we're dispatching folks to and they're signing up hundreds 107 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 2: of people. I mean, even in the last weekend, folks 108 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 2: can home super energized because there really is I think 109 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 2: a higher level of engagement than we've seen before. And 110 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 2: look at what we have at stake. 111 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: You know, one of the questions I do want to 112 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: ask you as it pertains to pride, you know happening 113 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: and you know across the country. Really but when they 114 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: think about it, when you mentioned Florida and you mentioned 115 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: some other places, I get nervous. I get worried about 116 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: those places. So what does it mean to host pride 117 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: in places that have become so hostile, right openly hostile 118 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: to LGBTQ people, trans people in particular. You know, again, 119 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: Pride is about celebration. It is about lifting the self 120 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: esteem of the community. It's about showing I think young 121 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: people and old people that like there are people who 122 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: look like you, love like you that are here for you, right, 123 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: that we're not going anywhere, But at the same time, 124 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: safety is a real issue. So how do you reconcile 125 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: with the reality of that while not dampering this celebration. 126 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 2: It's hard. I think that Pride organizers have always been 127 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 2: on some level that safety is a priority, But in 128 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 2: the last few years and this year particular, with the 129 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 2: elevated safety concerns that have come out and the warnings 130 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 2: that have come out from the FBI, from the State Department, 131 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:52,959 Speaker 2: you know, and I'm just outside New York City, I 132 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 2: mean New York City. Pride takes precautions that are they're 133 00:08:56,400 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 2: absolutely necessary for the safety of everyone, folks who are dissipating, 134 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 2: the folks who are doing the organizing, the folks who 135 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 2: are marching, and you know, we take our own precautions, 136 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 2: like we had our staff they were at Pope County 137 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 2: Pride in Central Florida last year. One of the issues 138 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 2: that we have to grapple with depending on again, like 139 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 2: you said, these some of these places which are particularly hostile. 140 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 2: You know, law enforcement may be more supportive of the 141 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 2: folks who are protesting us than us, right, So we 142 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 2: also have to as one of our colleagues chanted at 143 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 2: creating change. You know, who keeps us safe? We keep 144 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 2: us safe, right, So we have to have our own 145 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 2: systems in place as well, and that's as an organization, 146 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 2: like our teams that go out or super connected. We 147 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 2: put locations on our you know, location on our phones. 148 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 2: We have text chains, we do check ins, they're on slack. 149 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 2: Even for those of us who are not physically there, 150 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 2: they need to let their supervisors or department heads know 151 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 2: when they're coming and going. And you know, we have 152 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 2: to do all those things. And it's not just physical safety. 153 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 2: There's also health issues right right, kinds of things. So 154 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 2: those are things that we don't actually talk about a lot. 155 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 2: So I actually appreciate you bringing it up because a 156 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 2: lot of folks just show up at Pride and don't 157 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 2: realize how much work has gone into both on the 158 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 2: organizing side, but also for those of us who are 159 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,959 Speaker 2: doing the work and participating and wanting to engage folks. 160 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 2: What has to happen to really be able to not 161 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 2: just be productive and be able to enjoy and participate, 162 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 2: but to actually feel safe doing it. 163 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: I think that it's important to lift up because I 164 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,839 Speaker 1: want people to understand. I mean, while we may read 165 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: right and see the headlines that tell us that the 166 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: times have changed for the worst. But for folks like 167 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: yourself that are still organizing on the ground in these 168 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: places that are in the headlines because of their anti gay, 169 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: anti trans laws, that like this has now become dangerous. 170 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: It was never truly safe, but now when you see 171 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: the target and you see the lies being sped groom 172 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 1: and these things in these are states where you know, 173 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: they love their guns. And so I wanted you to 174 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: be able to lay that out for people so that 175 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: they can understand that while you know, we love our 176 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: rainbows and BoA's and you know, and the dancing and 177 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: the celebration, what happens behind the scenes in order to 178 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: make that actually happen, you know, is really serious. 179 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 2: Absolutely more and more. And I think that you know, 180 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 2: we're hearing we've been hearing stories now for several years 181 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 2: that we've got folks who are literally moving. They're leaving. Yeah, 182 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,719 Speaker 2: they're leaving where they live, where they have community, where 183 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 2: they have family, where they have their jobs because their 184 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 2: trans kid can't get firming healthcare, because they're afraid because 185 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 2: of the views that they've expressed, or they've been even 186 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 2: targeted by the Proud Boys and other you know, anti LGBTQ, racist, sexist, 187 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 2: you know hate groups that they are are quite literally leave. 188 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 2: I have a friend who moved from Tennessee to upstate 189 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 2: New York and like lives in a safe house. Now 190 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 2: that's a reality. It's painful and hard to talk about, 191 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 2: but we we have to talk about that stuff, and 192 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 2: we have to talk about it when every may in 193 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 2: my position, I get a thousand calls from the media 194 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 2: what are the big issues, what are the stories? And 195 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 2: they always want to talk about progress. And I'm happy 196 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 2: to talk about progress we've made because we're also making progress. 197 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 2: But progress isn't linear, and we are also dealing with 198 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 2: some of the most villil backlash that I've seen. And 199 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 2: I've been doing this for thirty years. Yeah, you know, 200 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 2: there were we had some times. You and I know 201 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 2: we were in d C right when Obama was president 202 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 2: and he's felt bad. 203 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: Old days, old days. 204 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 2: My daughter says, I thought, you fixed all this stuff. 205 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 2: Let's happen. Yeah, I you know, I think for young 206 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 2: people that's a this is a really important issue because 207 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 2: they do feel safer, they are more out, they are 208 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 2: more expressive, they are more in some ways, like want 209 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 2: to be you know, confronting folks, and for those of 210 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 2: us who've been doing this for a long time, having 211 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 2: to temper that with a message of safety is a 212 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 2: challenge a bit. And so, like I said, I mean, 213 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 2: I've been talking to media now for several weeks as 214 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 2: we've moved into June, and when I talk about what 215 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 2: the big issues are, it's to me, it's really important 216 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 2: that they start not just talking about issues, but talking 217 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 2: about people and telling our stories because there are a 218 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 2: lot more stories to tell and why those stories are important. 219 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 2: You know, there are so many trans youths that we 220 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 2: have worked with now for years. They are being targeted 221 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 2: in an unprecedented way. And what I keep saying to 222 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 2: journalist is we have to stop talking about trans youth 223 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 2: and we have to start talking to trans youth. And 224 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 2: they're but at the same time, being the overprotective media 225 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 2: person and parents that I am, like, we're very mindful 226 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,119 Speaker 2: about how to do that safely with folks and families 227 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 2: and what the impact can be. So all of these 228 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 2: things have come into play. So it's made for a 229 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,839 Speaker 2: pretty challenging pride But you know, at the same time, 230 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 2: it's more important than ever that we actually make that, 231 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:05,959 Speaker 2: like you said, like that political statement. I mean, I 232 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 2: don't care if your show up at Pride with a 233 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 2: Cosmopolitan in one hand or a picket sign show up, Yeah, 234 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 2: it's just the visibility of the representation does. What I 235 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 2: always say is one of the most important things Pride 236 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 2: can do is that for the folks that may not 237 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 2: be there or it's their first time there, they realize 238 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 2: that they're part of something a whole lot bigger, and 239 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 2: that is what's life changing. 240 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: Because I think too that you know, for those of 241 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: us like me and you how have been in this movement, 242 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: in and around this work for decades, sometimes I forget 243 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: how important pride is, right. I think that, you know, 244 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: prior to the Trump administration and the regression that we're seeing, 245 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: I kind of took pride for granted. That was the 246 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: beauty of progress, right, was being able to be like, eh, 247 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: you know, it's become super corporatized, that it's not you know, 248 00:14:55,480 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: uber necessary blah blah blah. And now recognizing one that 249 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: that was coming from a place of privilege, and two 250 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: that there are so many you know, young people who 251 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: this time that one march that one dance, that one 252 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: thing may be their entire experience to carry them through 253 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: the next three hundred and sixty four days of the 254 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: year where they're invisibilized well. 255 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 2: And the other thing is that you know, if you're 256 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 2: not a fan of a pride that has corporate sponsors, 257 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 2: they're prides without corporate sponsors. I mean, in New York 258 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 2: we have like, I don't know, like half a dozen 259 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 2: We've got New York City Pride. We've got the Career 260 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 2: Liberation March. We've got the Dike March, which I love, right, 261 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 2: we have Youth Pride. We have all these different events 262 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 2: that have become so much more diversified, which I love. 263 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 2: We have suburban prides. I live in mont Clooney, Jersey. 264 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 2: There's a pride. Literally I will step out of my 265 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 2: building and within a block be at Pride on Saturday 266 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 2: with I don't know, fifteen twenty thousand people, which you know, 267 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 2: those are prides where it's really interesting to also see 268 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 2: and I we've noticed this more and more over the years, 269 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 2: and it's so heartening. It's allies coming out, it's families 270 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 2: with their kids, like we were in because it was 271 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 2: the Task Force's fifteenth anniversary. Last year, we actually participated 272 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 2: in a lot of the big marches and stuff, and 273 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 2: you know, we were in the New York City Pride 274 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 2: March and I can never stay still. I'm running around 275 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 2: talking to people saying hi. And I saw a kid, 276 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 2: he was about thirteen, trans boy with a big sign 277 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 2: that said, this is my first Pride. That makes all 278 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 2: the work of the hundreds of volunteers and the staff 279 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 2: and the folks who do this right. And I said, 280 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 2: make sure you go to Youth Pride, make sure you 281 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 2: go to trans Pride. And he was with his mom 282 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 2: and she had a sign that said my first Pride too. 283 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 2: You know that's the kind of stuff right that that 284 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 2: is super powerful. And it's interesting because I do experience 285 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 2: to this with colleagues, not just the dasports but everywhere. 286 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 2: They get a little jaded. Yeah, Ill stated, you know, 287 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 2: and we get comfortable, and I think you're right. It 288 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 2: can come from a place of privilege or from a 289 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 2: place of just not wanting to participate in that kind 290 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 2: of pride. There's so many options now. That house part 291 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 2: is if they don't want to go to a big event. 292 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 2: Some people don't like crowds. 293 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, next. 294 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 2: Some of our Grand Marshals at New York City Pride 295 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 2: don't like crowds, and they still go because they know 296 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 2: that's important for folks to see them as role models, 297 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 2: as representations. You know. One of the things I love 298 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,919 Speaker 2: is that New York City Pride this year some of 299 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 2: the Grand Marshals Miss Major is a Grand Marshal, Rockdelle 300 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 2: willis as a Grand Marshal. But they also instead of 301 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:32,719 Speaker 2: having one youth Grand Marshal, they have three that are together, 302 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 2: and then they have their entire the heritage or Pride 303 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 2: like float that they have is all young people. It's 304 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 2: usually volunteers and whatever politicians. It's all young people this 305 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 2: year front and center, like last year when Robie Wade 306 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 2: was overturned on the Friday before the march and by 307 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 2: Sunday the front of the march was planned Parenthood, Maya Wiley, 308 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:00,040 Speaker 2: all of these other reproductive rights groups, to show the 309 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 2: solidarity that we have at to show that this is 310 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 2: actually not simply for LGBTQ people. Yeah, and that's something 311 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 2: that you know, I just you go to any of these, 312 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 2: any of these events, doesn't matter which one it is. 313 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 2: You're going to see Mama Bear T shirts you're going 314 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 2: to see I love my trans cut T shirts. Allies 315 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 2: are coming out, you know, in lots of different ways, 316 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 2: and that you know, there aren't enough of us to 317 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 2: well maybe there are for something so some elections, but 318 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 2: we need our allies to put us over the open there. 319 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 2: I really do finish line right exactly. 320 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: Because you bring up the election, which is always looming 321 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: over us. I want to switch gears and ask you 322 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 1: how the Task Force is preparing for the next five months. 323 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 1: One way or the other, America is going to be 324 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: changed greatly by this election. And you know, we know 325 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: you said it at the top, every election always the 326 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 1: most consequential. This one we know really is right. It's 327 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 1: the decision between fascism, ormocracy, between you know, white supremacy 328 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: or progress. So I wonder do you prepare two paths 329 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: if Biden continues with the second term, if Donald Trump 330 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: is elected, Like, what does it look like to be 331 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 1: inside of the Task Force right now as we make 332 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 1: the countdown to November. 333 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 2: Well, I mean we're a C three, so we don't 334 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 2: endorse candidates. But you know, no matter what, and again 335 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 2: in some ways, actually no matter who wins the election, 336 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 2: this is a long fight we have. You know, if 337 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 2: Biden wins and Trump doesn't win, they're still going to 338 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 2: fight for what they want, which is autocracy and fascism. 339 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 2: They're not going to suddenly stop because you know, they 340 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 2: lost an election. You know, they didn't stop last time. 341 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 2: And I think, you know, it's fair that there are 342 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 2: a lot of progressive issues that the Task Force works 343 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:53,919 Speaker 2: on that we are constructively critical towards the Biden administration 344 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 2: about that with our allies, whether it's you know, around 345 00:19:56,560 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 2: immigration or other things. And again it's it's like what 346 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 2: we talked about at our Korean Change conference, you know, 347 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 2: earlier this year, is how do we find ways to 348 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 2: have these conversations and be in principal struggle and not 349 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 2: cancel each other out right and try and continue to 350 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 2: move forward because I think at the end of the day, 351 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 2: the vast majority of folks have the same goal, right 352 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 2: in terms of where we want to end up as 353 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 2: people from a civil rights perspective, you know, just from 354 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 2: a cultural perspective, from a safety and having you know, 355 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 2: lives where we don't just survive but thrive. Right. So 356 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 2: for us, it's about, you know, given the resources that 357 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 2: we have, just being all in, you know, so whether 358 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 2: it's being at these prides where we can really I mean, 359 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 2: those are the places where you can access thousands of 360 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 2: people at once in person in ways that is they're 361 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 2: impossible otherwise. Right, So it's a it's an organizing tool 362 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 2: that we're going to use not just through June, through 363 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 2: the fall, because the reality is is that prides don't 364 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 2: just happen in June. Again, it's something that you know, 365 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,479 Speaker 2: we'll be We'll be at price through October. I mean, 366 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 2: we have our CREA Change conferences in Las Vegas next January. 367 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 2: We're at Las Vegas Pride October twelfth, you know, and 368 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 2: so we're going to be right up to the election. 369 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 2: And then the other part we do is the sort 370 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 2: of the digital level organizing is, you know, is reaching 371 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 2: out to folks across the country, working particularly with partners 372 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 2: like our media partners are queer media especially, who are 373 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 2: all in to try and get folks. You know, the basics. 374 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 2: Are you registered to vote if you're not, this is 375 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 2: how you do it. If you are, get ten of 376 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 2: your friends and family and people in your community to 377 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 2: do it too, and if you need information about candidates, 378 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 2: about ballot initiatives, because I think what happens often in 379 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 2: this country is people, especially the media you want to 380 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 2: talk about media, spend so much time on the national 381 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 2: election that what gets forgotten are the local level thing. Yeah, 382 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 2: and that's in your in our day to day lives 383 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 2: for most of us, that's where the the pain points are. Right. 384 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 2: We worked on school board elections in Polk County in 385 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 2: central Florida last election cycle. We didn't win, but we 386 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 2: did everything we could to try and just keep things 387 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 2: moving forward because we're in it for the long game. 388 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 2: We may not have success on some of these balid 389 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 2: initiatives or local you know, quarter bed campaigns or primary 390 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 2: this election cycle, but we're not going anywhere. We've been 391 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 2: around fifty years, We're going to be around another fifty 392 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 2: And the reality is that we have to build the 393 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 2: power locally because it can't be everywhere. And you know, 394 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 2: we partner with local folks. That's the key. We know, 395 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,479 Speaker 2: national organization could just walk in and say we're going 396 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 2: to you know, we're gonna help you. That's I mean, 397 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 2: maybe some of them do, but we don't because we 398 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 2: set what do you need? How can we be helpful? 399 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 2: Like for the Summerlee primary, in Pennsylvania. We dispatched one 400 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 2: of our staff and you know, they basically didn't want 401 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 2: to send him home because he did such a great 402 00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 2: job literally going door to door and reaching over thousand people. 403 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 2: That makes a big difference. 404 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 1: That's the basics, right, It's getting back to the basics. 405 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's getting people offline and getting them back into 406 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 1: the real life where you can knock on doors, meet people, 407 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: see people, understand who they are, where they're coming from. 408 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 1: I think that we absolutely need to get back to 409 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 1: that place before I let you go. You know, last 410 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: question is for people that are feeling hopeless, for people 411 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 1: that are queer, that are feeling like we have betrayed them. 412 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: They are things we're supposed to get better and they 413 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: seem to be getting worse. 414 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 2: What do you say, Well, if you can safely go 415 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 2: to a pride event, whether it's a small community event 416 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 2: where you live, or whether you can go to a 417 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 2: you know, something a whole lot bigger, and if not, 418 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 2: if that's not safe, this is where this is where 419 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 2: social media and the Internet can actually be a useful thing. 420 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, what of the challenges, like you're saying, 421 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 2: get out there and be face to face with people. 422 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 2: Taking it out of the abstract of these little like 423 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 2: echo chambers that we're all living in on social media 424 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,199 Speaker 2: is absolutely critical because I think that's where a lot 425 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 2: of the hopelessness can come from. You know, if you're 426 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 2: just seeing negative stuff on television, or you're just seeing 427 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 2: negative stuff on Facebook, or you're seeing even worse as 428 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 2: you well know, misinformation, disinformation, hostility and attacks like that 429 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 2: can wear you down and people will either you know, 430 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:34,199 Speaker 2: they'll turn it off, they'll disconnect, they'll feel hopeless. And 431 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 2: I think there are ways that you can connect, and 432 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 2: you know, in person is the best, but if you 433 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 2: if not, you know, one of the things I love 434 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 2: about a lot of a lot of the Prides, but 435 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 2: I know best here in New York City is that 436 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 2: our local ABC affiliate streams yeah the first two hours 437 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 2: of the March. Yeah, so it's online and you can 438 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 2: it is just it's so powerful to see this amazing, 439 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 2: you know, diverse array of folks who are being honored 440 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 2: for work they've done in the community. You know, young 441 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 2: people who are just starting out in are an inspiration leadership, 442 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 2: and then organizations. You know, if you're a person of faith, 443 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 2: you'll feel less alone when you see you know, a 444 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 2: church and a synagogue and a you know, ten different 445 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 2: faith denominations go by that are in the march and 446 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 2: affirming the fact that that's who they are, that they're 447 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 2: er and they're people of faith. I mean, that's that's 448 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,360 Speaker 2: a huge issue I think for folks who are who 449 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 2: are isolating our community and have been rejected by you know, 450 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 2: their own faith community. 451 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 1: Kathy, I thank you so much for the work one 452 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,439 Speaker 1: that you've done for decades, but the work that you 453 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 1: continue to do inside of the LGBTQ Task Force. I 454 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,239 Speaker 1: think that you know, we need it. We need to 455 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 1: be reminded that there are good people doing great things 456 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: and that people can get involved. So please tell folks 457 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: how they can get connected to the task Force, how 458 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: they can be involved with the Task Force. 459 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 2: So, I mean, the easiest thing to do to follow 460 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 2: us on social is just to find at the Task Force. 461 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 2: We're on Instagram, we're on x We're on Facebook, we're 462 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 2: on LinkedIn. You can also go to our Queer the 463 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 2: Vote website which is just squere thevote dot org. You 464 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 2: can get all the information around the elections and all 465 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 2: the waste that you can get engaged both virtually and 466 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 2: in person. And our general website is the task Force 467 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 2: dot org. And so you know, we'd love to have 468 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 2: folks join us for again. The great Change Conference can 469 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 2: be a life changing experience. It's like basically like it's 470 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 2: like an activist pride for a week, you know. I mean, 471 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 2: it's true. 472 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's true. It's true. I've been to my fair share. 473 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 2: It's not a conference. A Kia Johnson, our executive director, says, 474 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,360 Speaker 2: it's not a conference. It's an ecosystem. I always say 475 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 2: it's not a conference, it's an experience. Like we try 476 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 2: and create these opportunities for folks to get engaged and 477 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 2: then have what they need in the support to sort 478 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 2: of grow and you know, really make a difference and 479 00:26:58,720 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 2: great change. 480 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 1: Lati Rana, thank you so much as always been making 481 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: the time for WOKF. Really appreciate you. 482 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 2: I appreciate you too, Thanks so much. 483 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: That is it for me today, dear friends on wok F. 484 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: As always, power to the people and to all the people. Power, 485 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: get woke and stay woke as fuck.