1 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: Take two of division clinching Vikings football is upon us 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: as we welcome you inside the TCO Performance Center for 3 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: the Friday edition of the Minnesota Vikings Podcast. I go 4 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: by Gabe Henderson. As always, I'm joined by Tatum Everett 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: and producer Eric Davidson from the Vikings Entertainment Network and 6 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: helping us break down the run It Back edition. I'm 7 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: gonna call it of the Minnesota Vikings Podcast. As a 8 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: friend of the show, our guy mister Ron Johnson from 9 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: Vikings Game Day Live as well as the Ron Johnson 10 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: Show that airs daily on all streaming platforms and the 11 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: Vikings Boom on Saturday is set for noon at us 12 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: Bank Stadium versus the four eight and one Indianapolis Coach. 13 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: You can start your game day right here by tuning 14 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: in to the Vikings Radio Network at ten AM for 15 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: the Vikings pregame Show with Mike Mussman, Voice of the 16 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: Vikings Paul Alan, Pete Bursis, and so much more. All right, Ron, 17 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: the goal last week was to clinch the division against 18 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: your hometown team, the Detroit Lions this past Sunday. That 19 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: didn't work out. How do we get a chance to 20 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: try this thing? All over again tomorrow versus your former 21 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: team and a guy that you used to coach and 22 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: Jeff Saturday. Where does the reasons for optimism begin? The 23 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: reason for optimism, I'd say, one, it's just a coach 24 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 1: team that I mean, I'd say they mailed the season 25 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 1: in already. But this was a test, truly to see 26 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: if it was the voice of Frank Wright that wasn't 27 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: really getting the guys getting you to the spots they 28 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: need to get to. Can Jeff Saturday turn this around 29 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: with what he knew? He was already on the staff 30 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: as an executive assistant. So that's what people don't know 31 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: is he was well versed in the offense, well versed 32 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: in what was going on within the building, played for 33 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: Frank Wright as well. You know, when Frank Wright was 34 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: a quarterbacks coach, he was the center. So I just 35 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: think it was more of a test, less of a 36 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: rock the boat. You know, when you look at the 37 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: staff that Frank Wright hit put together, Reggie, Wayne, Cato, June, 38 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: some of these younger guys, Robert Mathis, all former players. 39 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: I don't think they felt like they had a guy 40 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: in there that could really just take over and become 41 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: interim head coach. So the Jeff Saturday move was less 42 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: about chain and more about let's just keep it what 43 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: it is. But when I say optimism, I'd say that's 44 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: that like you're coaching. It gets a guy in Jeff 45 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: Saturday who's never really been a head coach. Neither's Kevin O'Connell, 46 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 1: but O'Connell's been office coordinator to on a Super Bowl. 47 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: So hopefully there's something there where if you can get 48 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: the coach down early, they don't have the fight to 49 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: fight back. I think the Vikings continue to show they 50 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: do that Lions game, If justin Jefferson's touchdowns is a touchdown, 51 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: you have three plus minutes on the clock, I think 52 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: they probably have a chance to come back and score 53 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 1: again and get a stop and force a punt versus 54 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: them going forward on four from whatever because it's a 55 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: short field. That's the optimism I see is that the 56 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: coaching should take hold here when you look at that team. 57 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: I mean, Jeff did get an extra week though, to 58 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: get these guys ready for this game. Do you think 59 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: that the bye week will have any effect on how 60 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: this Colts team comes out? Oh? Yeah, I will say this. 61 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: The coach coaches when I was there, Tony Dungee wasn't 62 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: about staying late and all this stuff. Jeff Saturday, I'd 63 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 1: know a couple of coaches. I have one coming on 64 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: my show today, Kato June, and from what he's saying, 65 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: they're scheduling, I mean they've been in meetings till ten pm, 66 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: So they definitely are taking this serious. They definitely are 67 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 1: trying to get the ship going in the right direction 68 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: towards the end of the season because their jobs are 69 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: on the line as well, like whoever comes in to 70 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 1: take over, because I don't think Jeff Saturday is a 71 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: long term solution, but who knows. They know they're coaching 72 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,399 Speaker 1: for their livelihoods as well, and Reggie Wayne and Kato 73 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: Juno's other guys, and also maybe a chance to coach 74 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,239 Speaker 1: somewhere else and just continue to learn and grow. So yes, 75 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: they are definitely taking this serious. I think that extra 76 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: week should help a team like that too. When you 77 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: look at what Dan Campbell did with the offensive lineman 78 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: trying to come up, you know, I think that gives 79 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: an offense on the coach side to say, hey, like 80 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: let's let's think about some trick plays, like we don't 81 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: need to just stay vanilla. If we lose this game, 82 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: everybody expects us lose. But if we can do some 83 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: things to confuse the defense, they understand ed Donatael's defensive guys, 84 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: as he would put it, are not in the right 85 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: position sometimes or not executing the way it was called. 86 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: That just gives an offense even more fuel to say, 87 00:03:57,920 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: you know what, well, let's make sure they're even more 88 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: confused with maybe motions and shifts and changes and things 89 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: are not used to. So yeah, I think that extra 90 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: week does help, but not so much for the coaches too. 91 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: But the players, players get to rest, so they're gonna 92 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: come in healthier. I mean, you get an extra week 93 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: to rest and now you have to travel, but you 94 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: know your body and Gabe knows this as a player, 95 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: that three day turnaround, Yeah you're ready to go by Friday, Saturday, Saturday, 96 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: but it still hurts. That extra week is like, man, 97 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: there's like a vacation for those guys to sitting around 98 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 1: not have to hit. Jeff Saturday has a veteran mentality 99 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: with players, so I'm pretty sure they didn't do any 100 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 1: hitting for that first week, and maybe a little bit 101 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 1: of butt up this week but this late in the season, 102 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: there's no more take to the ground, There's no more 103 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: of that. So I think his goal is let's get 104 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: to Saturday healthy. I'm just looking at this twenty ten 105 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: Indianapolis coach team. I'm ron that you coach for, and 106 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: I'm just looking at, you know, just some of the 107 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 1: short weeks that you guys had. December fifth, you play 108 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: the Broncos, lost, then you had a short week and 109 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: then beat the Tendensee Titans on the road. What are 110 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: some pros too having a short week after you lost, 111 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 1: outside of just saying let's get this bad taste out 112 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 1: of our mouth. Yeah, well, I was gone by I 113 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: want to say September ish October, just because the deal 114 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: I signed with them. There was a hard, long story 115 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna I'm not gonna dry snitch on 116 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: what was going on within the organization. But there was 117 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: too many coaches, let's just say that. And the NFL 118 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: had been told one thing and then things had to change. 119 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: Jim er Say was like, ah, I think we got 120 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: too many coaches now, Yeah, but plan on short weeks, 121 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: a coaching on show week. So just answer that question. 122 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 1: When you look at the short week stuff. If you lose, 123 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:28,799 Speaker 1: it's great to have a short week because your mind 124 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: does not have to stay on that loss for more 125 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: than a couple of days. From an injury standpoint, if 126 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 1: there's a key guy like Peyton had the ankle. If 127 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: there's a key guy, sometimes that's a little tougher because 128 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: you you look forward to that three days of Monday, Tuesday, 129 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 1: Wednesday off because you usually your top guy if he's hurt, 130 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 1: doesn't play Wednesday. Ray Lewis we had that too with 131 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: the Ravens with his shoulder. So Ray would even practice 132 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 1: on Thursdays. He would take Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday off. 133 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: He practiced Friday, full speed run, get lathered up, walk 134 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: through Saturday, but a little bit of a jog, you know, again, 135 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 1: get the blood flow and get on the plane. A 136 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 1: lot of stem on Saturday, and then play Sunday. When 137 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: it's a short week, you got you gotta figure out 138 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 1: how do I get through this? And honestly, some players 139 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: would even practice. They would be just you know, standing 140 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 1: on the side, getting all the mental reps, getting in 141 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 1: the film room, but trying to get to that next 142 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: Thursday night game or Friday night game. So there's good 143 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: and bad to it. The bad of it is you 144 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: don't get to heal up. The good of it is 145 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: if you lost the week before, mentally you're done. And 146 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: then honestly too like people are like, well if it's 147 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: just a loss, No, if you won now you can 148 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: re replicate that again, like, oh man, we just won, 149 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: let's turn around on Thursday. Let's just same game plan. Like, 150 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 1: let's not even chase, Like maybe there's little things here 151 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: and there we need to change defensively because of the 152 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 1: guy we're facing, but offensive it was like, look, if 153 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 1: these first fifteen plays killed them, these first fifteen players 154 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: will kill anyboy. Let's stick with this first fifteen. There's 155 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: about the second fifteen and the second half of the vikings, 156 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: but we'll talk about that a little bit later. All right, 157 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 1: So moving on to our one big talking point. It's 158 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: been a while since we brought this back, but one 159 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: big talking point. You're heading to Saturday. Take them. We'll 160 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 1: start with you something that you're focused on or looking 161 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: at that could may or may not make a difference 162 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: on Saturday. Yeah. For me, it's the what's got to give? 163 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: I think a lot of these stats are gonna can 164 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: play or not stats, but just like the way that 165 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: the Colts defense is built can really play into this 166 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: offense's hand. This run game is something that I think 167 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: is of utmost importance this week. The Vikings haven't rushed 168 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: for more than seventy five yards and three the last 169 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: four games. I think establishing the run game against this 170 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: run defense in particular, will be advantageous. The Colts defense 171 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: is allowed one hundred and forty one, one hundred and 172 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: seventy two, and two hundred and twenty yards on the 173 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: last three games. Yeah, I think that's going to be 174 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: key in this one, especially because it's a tough passing defense. Right. Yeah, 175 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,119 Speaker 1: almost fourtun and fifteen rushing yards allowed in the past 176 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: three games. Like that would make you lick your chops 177 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: if you're the Viking offense and say, okay, well we 178 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: should be able to run the ball. Well, we said 179 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: that last week against this Detroit Lions team. So I 180 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: think it's a matter of a mindset. Yeah, we're going 181 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: to run the ball and you're not going to stop it. 182 00:07:58,080 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: I feel like they've tried. I feel like that's been 183 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: the mindset, and that may have kind of hurt them 184 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: a little bit against the Lions. But another thing is 185 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: that Darisaw, Christian Darisaw will be hopefully able to return 186 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: on Sunday, and I think that could also be big 187 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: for the run game. Yeah, when you think about the 188 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: run game for the Vikings and you know the offense part, 189 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: you know, just to your point, I think the key 190 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: for the offense is when you look at the Vikings 191 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: offense in the third quarter. So I talked about that 192 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: the Vikings quarter is extremely anemic. I don't know if 193 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: they need iron peels. I don't need if they need 194 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: the iron maiden. I don't know if they need to 195 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: blow the gallahorn and start the third quarter. I don't 196 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:38,199 Speaker 1: know what it is. And maybe that could be it. 197 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 1: Maybe somebody could blow the galllet, like yeah, at first 198 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: the game starting gallishorn and then you have the second 199 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 1: half gallihorn blower. We'll pass it on. Yeah, please pass 200 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 1: that on. But when you think about this, two and 201 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: twenty two plays in the third quarter, that's twenty ninth 202 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: in the NFL. So that means they're not getting third downs, 203 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: they're not getting more plays. Eight point seven yards to 204 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: go in the third quarter. That means they're behind the 205 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: sticks a lot that's thirty second. Three point three yards 206 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 1: game per play, not per drive, perp every single play 207 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: in the third quarter, they're only gaining about three yards. 208 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: That's thirty first. There's only one other team that's worse 209 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 1: than them. And eighteen point nine percent of first downs 210 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: or touchdowns in the third quarter, that's twenty nine. The 211 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: turnovers to two point seven percent of their plays in 212 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,839 Speaker 1: the third quarter turnovers, Wow, that's thirty first. There's only 213 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: one other team worst than them. And so when you 214 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: look at that stuff, it's like, because Kevin O'Connell says that, well, man, 215 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:30,719 Speaker 1: I'm really good at my first fifteen plays. I don't 216 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: know what's going on in the third quarter script the 217 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: third quarter, Like literally go to third quarters script those 218 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: fifteen plays outs. There's nothing wrong with that. Like a 219 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: lot of coordinators feel like, oh, I need to call 220 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 1: by Phil, what's the first quarter? Verse? Half looks like? 221 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: And Gabe, you know this. You go into the locker 222 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 1: room a half time, you sit down in front of 223 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: the board. I don't know now they have tablets in there, 224 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: but you're sitting down in front of white Where I 225 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: was old school, we had a white board. Our coach 226 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 1: was saying, all right, official hearn an, he dropped from 227 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: crap where here to do this because they're doing this 228 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: and they're bringing the safety down to the bucks. When 229 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 1: they're bring the safety down to the bucks, I need 230 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: you to know you're going to take the high route 231 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 1: and blah blah script him out. Just say hey, look, 232 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: I know my script is better than anybody in the NFL. 233 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 1: When Kevin O'Connell can script that first seven minutes, eight minutes, 234 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: he is the top five offensive coordinate in the NFL. 235 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: So I would say that, and vice versus. The Coats 236 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:14,959 Speaker 1: are only given up twenty two percent of first down 237 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: to touchdowns in the third quard defensively, so that doesn't 238 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 1: vote well. Their defense is actually pretty good in third quarter, 239 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: and the Viking's office is not good the run game. 240 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 1: Though you bought up. Here's the problem if you don't 241 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: have Christian Derrissaw. Nothing against Blake Brandle, but Christian Derrissaw 242 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: can be considered a role greater. Like he's a guy 243 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: that puts his head down. He could push a guy 244 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,959 Speaker 1: five fifteen yards down the field easily. Blake Brando was 245 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: not that guy. He's a little bit higher, a little 246 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 1: bit more. You know he's a great pass rusher. I 247 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: think his fee has really good feet, but he can't 248 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: do that. And so when you think about the run 249 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: specifically to the left side of the field, the Vikings 250 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: actually pretty good running behind him. You look at Dalvin 251 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: Cook in the open field really good. So why are 252 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: we running between the tackles so much if it's not there, 253 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: If you don't feel like your guard at Ingram or 254 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: Ezra Cleveland, I think it is doing okay, but ed 255 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 1: Ingram is getting enough push. Stop running inside zone. Just 256 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: switch it to outside zone. Switch it to where Dalvin 257 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 1: Cook has tackle to the edge, and he has tackle 258 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: to the edge on this he has a full cutback. 259 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: If you watch the Gophers and Moiram, it's the same thing. 260 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 1: They run middle zone and then they run they call 261 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: it mid zone, which means I'm looking at the middle, 262 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: but I know my cutback and then my front side, 263 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 1: I like Mokin Scan tackle to tackle and if mo 264 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 1: Ibram can do it, Dalvin Cook can do it, and 265 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: you just call it mid zone. So meaning everybody still 266 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: goes zone block scheme. Take your guys where you're gonna 267 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: take Dalvin You read it. This thing can hit left, 268 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: or it can hit all the way backside to the right. 269 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: And I know every coach knows it, Every offensive coach knows, 270 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: every offensive line coach knows how to run it. It's 271 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: just a zone scheme. You just tell him, like, don't 272 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:42,839 Speaker 1: assume your front or backside. Just take your guy in 273 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: your zone and YouTube if you have the double team, 274 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: you double team tackle, you move it to second level. 275 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: You're not seeing that, you're not seeing the true double 276 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: teams and then the guy getting So that's could be 277 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: communication issues where the guards aren't really doing a great 278 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 1: job of talking to the tackles, or the guards aren't 279 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: doing a great job talking to the center. Something's fundamentally 280 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: off with that zone run scheme because there's too many guys. 281 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: Like Dalvin Cook said, He's like, man, I thought I 282 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:05,199 Speaker 1: was gonna have a jump pass and then the guy 283 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: was in my lap, you know, like there's too many. 284 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 1: It's too much of that. It's too much of like, oh, 285 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 1: I didn't know I was manned up here. I thought 286 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: I was zoned up here. Like so whatever that is. 287 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: For the vikings, I'd say run the ball, will say 288 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 1: run the ball. But the key to that is you 289 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:18,839 Speaker 1: got to know where your strength is. Your strength is 290 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 1: Christian Derris saw, Yeah, Christian derrisaw, having them back would 291 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: be phenomenal. And I just I think for me, I 292 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: think the biggest thing I want to see is we 293 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: heard ed donatell talk. We heard his press conference earlier 294 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 1: this week about how the defense need to make improvements. 295 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: The new standard is what he kept saying. He said, 296 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: we need to basically put a new standard of Vikings 297 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 1: defense together. What would that look like? We will see. 298 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: But if you haven't listened to his pressor or Kevin 299 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: O'Connell's pressor, you can head on over to Vikings dot 300 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: com right now, as both of those are on the 301 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,839 Speaker 1: website and on our YouTube channels. But Ron, when we 302 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: come back from the break round, I want to ask 303 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: you about this current state of the Vikings. There's a 304 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: lot of matchups to watch, and one in particular that 305 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: I'm a little concerned about. So I'll ask you about 306 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 1: that when when we get back from the break. Hey, 307 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 1: Vikings fans, right now you can pick up a commemorative 308 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: Vikings Cup at us Bank Stadium. Fill it with the 309 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 1: nice coote pepsi and you'll be ready for football watching. 310 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 1: Spalon Montage is the Twin Cities premier salon and spa 311 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: destination and proud official hair sponsor of the Minnesota Vikings 312 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: cheerleaders with three convenient locations and eat Dinah Woodberry and Chanhassan. 313 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: There's a Spalon close to you. Visit online at spel 314 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:35,439 Speaker 1: dot com. We are back. This is the Minnesota Vikings 315 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: Podcast presented by PEPSI. My name is Gabe Henderson. Across 316 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: from me as Tatum Everett. To her left is mister 317 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 1: Ron Johnson from the Vikings Game Bay Live and the 318 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: Ron Johnson Show. And on the ones and two is 319 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: as always, this is my guy, Eric Davidson from the 320 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: Vikings Entertainment Network. Also and Ron. We were talking about 321 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: some of the upcoming matchups this upcoming Saturday, and I'm 322 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: very concerned about this justin Jefferson Stefan Gilmore matchup. And 323 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: I say that because when Jeff Jefferson is stationary and 324 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: he is one on one with the press cornerback corner backs, 325 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: he has problems. How do you put JJ on a 326 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: good game against this cold defense that is top ten 327 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 1: when it comes to passing defense in the NFL. Yeah, 328 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: So if you look at the Kevin O'Connell trend. Whenever 329 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson has a bad game, the next game he 330 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: follows us up with a ridiculous game. And the problem 331 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: with this two hundred and twenty three yard game, I 332 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: hope Kevin O'Connell takes the same time. So I know 333 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: he has a new baby at home. Wife needs to sleep, 334 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: so he's up late with the baby and he's drawn 335 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: up place for JJ. I hope he does that this week. 336 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: I hope that because it's a loss, it wasn't a 337 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: win and a two twenty three, so the two twenty 338 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: three got overshadowed by the loss. So hopefully, even in 339 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: his mind, he's still sitting up late at night with 340 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: the baby, waiting for his wife, you know, waiting for 341 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: the baby. They need foods, have to wake his wife 342 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: up the feeder. For all those that had newborns, you 343 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: know that. You know that routine. But when you think 344 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: about him drawing up place for Justin Jefferson, the biggest 345 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: thing is moving him. You can't leave him just in 346 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: one spot and say he's the EX or he's the Z. 347 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: You got to put him in the backfield. You gotta 348 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: put him in the slot. You got to, you know, 349 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: shift them over and then motion them back. Two things 350 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: happen there. One, it gives Kirk Cousins opportunity to see 351 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: what the coverage is because the safeties are gonna move. 352 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: Linebackers are gonna move too. Like you said, it doesn't 353 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: allow Stefan Gilmour to get his hands on him every 354 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: single time because then the bunch even he might want 355 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: to jam them, but justin Jefferson's hips and wiggle once 356 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: he gets a full head of steam, you got to 357 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: kind of just play soft coverage and catch them and 358 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: then run with them. So I'd say you have to 359 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: move them. You cannot just leave him there expecting him 360 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: because he is dominant. Yeah, but you can't just leave 361 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: him there because now the safety can stay too, and 362 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: he kind of gives it away. I want to talk 363 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: a little bit more about the defense because I know 364 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: that that's something that's just been of hot debate this 365 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: week especially, and we touched on in a little bit 366 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: in the first half of the show. But you know 367 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: ed Donutel saying that it's more execution than scheme in 368 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: coaches speak, you know, that's a little bit of a 369 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: coach speak answer. For those who may not know the 370 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: difference right, So can you, in layman's terms, break down 371 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: what the issue is with the defense that Ed Downatell 372 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: is kind of talking about there. So I mean he's 373 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: a Vicas podcast, so I won't say exactly what I 374 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: think Ed donatell is trying to say. Basically, what Ed 375 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: Donna tell is saying, if I tell a guy to 376 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: be at seven yards, maybe he's at eight or nine. 377 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: Some people are like, oh, that's that doesn't make a 378 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: big difference. It does. If you think about Cam Dancer 379 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: last year against the Lions, and I think Mike Zimmer 380 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: call probably cover four heels to the line. You know, 381 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: I don't know wherever they call it, but basically, put 382 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: your heels on the goal line, stay there, don't move 383 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: because if he gets behind you, that's a tough throw. 384 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: That's a ten You know, you have ten yards to 385 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: catch up from a ball that's traveling. For the yards 386 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: and for all the physics guys out there, you can 387 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: figure out what that time and distance and if a 388 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: plane travel is left and right, how far going to 389 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: go east? Um, Cam Dancler backs into the end zone, 390 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: got those are right to the goal line? Touchdown and 391 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: that's where what are you doing? Cam? Dancler probably came 392 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: from from PA and the Seahawks game and the Seahaws 393 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: game too with a yeah, I forgot DK. But if 394 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: you if you think about that, that's some of the 395 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: probably things that Downtell is saying is like, Man, I'm 396 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: calling this like Josh m tell Us the touchdown on 397 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: DJ Chark, Josh Mttellis came down into the box a 398 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: little too soon, which told the quarterback right away a 399 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: single high, single high. I know I'm going with the 400 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: go route, the go route, I'm gonna take dance lur 401 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: and Jark like he probably already had that in his mind. 402 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 1: If Josh Mattelli stays back maybe a little bit longer 403 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 1: and just hauls butt down at the like Harrison Smith does, 404 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 1: we see it a ton. He doesn't know it's covered 405 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: two until after the snap or sorry, cover one or 406 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: three or whatever, it's after the snap. So you think 407 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: it like, I can't really go there because there's a 408 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 1: there's two safeties, so I can't throw the out route 409 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: because that safety's over the top, or the go route 410 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: because he's over the top. Well, that's the things you 411 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: like he's probably saying like, Man, I'm telling these guys 412 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: to do this and they're not doing it. I'm telling 413 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: the guy's line up here and they're not doing it. 414 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: He can't really throw them under the bus, but I'm guessing. 415 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, I don't think a coach would say 416 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: it if it wasn't happening, probably not having at the 417 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: clip we think, you know, and it's probably not happened 418 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 1: at the clip he thinks, but he just knows there 419 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 1: were some key plays that this happened. The guy wasn't 420 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 1: where he's supposed to be, so if where if he 421 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: was where you're supposed to be, then maybe this would 422 00:17:57,800 --> 00:17:59,479 Speaker 1: like the same thing. If we have rush lanes, if 423 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: you're supposed to rush and stay outside, keep the guy 424 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: in the pocketing off of a sudden, you get greedy 425 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 1: and go in because you want the sack boom. Quarterback 426 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,479 Speaker 1: rolls out. He's like, dude, that's not what we taught you. 427 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 1: What are you doing. He's not gonna call a guy 428 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: out specifically, call a playoff specifically, but I think that's 429 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: what he's basically saying. It's like, look, I'm I'm calling 430 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: the way I think it should be called. I'm telling 431 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: the guys where to be. We coached them up and 432 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: they're not doing it right now. There's one thing I 433 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: will say though. Glenn Mason on k Fan on my 434 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: show as well, told a story about Woody Hayes, old 435 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: Ohio state coach. You've probably seen the stories. I'm choking 436 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: a coach on the sideline for not doing the right thing. 437 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 1: And Glenn Mason said, like a thousand times and told 438 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 1: a guy to do something thousand times and hill to 439 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:35,719 Speaker 1: do some coach and he still didn't get it right, 440 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 1: and said, well, you're a bad coach. If you told 441 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: a guy a thousand times to do something and he 442 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 1: can't get it right, you're of the problem. So p J. 443 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: Fleck always says that I have a bunch of six graders, 444 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 1: how do I teach them how to learn? And that's 445 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: how he treats his team because he was a sixth 446 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 1: grade I think social studies teacher. You have to find 447 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: a way to get every guy to learn. You can't 448 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: teach the whole team on a board. You sometimes have 449 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: to go one on one with your players. And that's 450 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 1: why coaches have to stay late because it's like, look, 451 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: I got this guy this time you get pay millions 452 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 1: of dollars to do this, So meet with each guy. 453 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 1: Make sure you figure out how that some guys might 454 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 1: be dyslexic. I mean, we don't understand, like you never 455 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: know until you acts a player, and that's the key. 456 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: You have to teach every player differently the way they 457 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: learn and sometimes coaches forget that. Ron. We don't want 458 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 1: to make this thing a Saturday special for the Colts 459 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: on Saturday. But let's say the Vikings do win, right 460 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,959 Speaker 1: and they secure that second spot, you know, or at 461 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,360 Speaker 1: least for another week. When you start looking at the playoff, 462 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: how the NFC is shaking out, what's the best case 463 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: scenario for the Vikings. So best case scenario right now? 464 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, you get Seattle, you can get the 465 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: Washington Commanders. I wouldn't mind the Lions again, absolutely, I 466 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: wouldn't mind the Lions coming back for a revenge game. 467 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 1: Vikings get to beat them one last time to go 468 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: on Lions having to travel to US Bank Stadium. That'd 469 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: be good for the city of Detroit personally for me, 470 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: But I'd say any of those snaries. Honestly, this is 471 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: the thing you know about the playoffs. You just need 472 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,360 Speaker 1: to chip in a chair. So I feel like Kirk 473 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: Cousins is on a tear that he's not getting credit 474 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: for it because justin since a big part of it, 475 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 1: people don't trust him. But I'd say, any of those 476 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: teams right now, they take the one, honestly, the one 477 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 1: you probably don't want, which won't happen because NFC South sucks. 478 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 1: Is like the Buccaneers drop in the seven. But I 479 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 1: don't see it happening because if they drop their out 480 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,239 Speaker 1: like whoever wins and Nancy is in South and the 481 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 1: other ones are out. So and the only reason I 482 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:21,880 Speaker 1: say is because Tom Brady, you just don't ever want 483 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 1: to give him a chance, like he's too good to 484 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 1: give him any type of chance. Well, and you think 485 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,640 Speaker 1: about the way that the defense is allowing passing yards 486 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 1: right now total yards in general, that just seems like 487 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: a scary, scary thing. Um. I do want to mention though, 488 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 1: round that we have the Fox nine Game Day live 489 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: Saturday morning for all of the viewers who may expect 490 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: to see it on Sunday, but it'll be Saturday morning 491 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: at nine to eleven. Thanks for making the adjustment for 492 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 1: all of us that it can get our pregame show 493 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: in we're gonna have the special Who's Who's your interview 494 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 1: this week? Interview this week is with Justin and Jefferson, 495 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 1: I know, and they're giving me a little extra time, 496 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: so it's gonna be a go get him a coffee. 497 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: You could get some coffee to laugh around stadium. No, no, 498 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 1: it's not that long, but yeah, excited to talk to 499 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 1: him after his game. Okay, Um, just a really refreshing 500 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 1: cool guy. And this one, you know the people over 501 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 1: here at me and the Christian wrangall and will sheety 502 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: aveneque Gil. They just killed it with the shooting in 503 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: the editing. So should be a fun one. So yeah, 504 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: nine thirty Saturday morning, nine thirty. It's usually about the 505 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 1: ten fifteen mark or something. Wow, you pay attention. Well 506 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: up and forward is where this Viking stain wants to 507 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: look in? Right in front of us? Is this NFC 508 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 1: North Division clinching title on Saturday against the Indianapolis coachs 509 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: Ron is always appreciate you joining us. Thank you for more, 510 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 1: Ron Johnson. The things that did not make this show, 511 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: or the things that he said would not make this show, 512 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: just go on over to the Ron Johnson Show probably 513 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: on YouTube as we speak. It's probably on YouTube right 514 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: now as we speak. On Fridays. This is Friday Night, 515 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: so make sure you check that out. Ron, You're gonna 516 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: have a little behind the what we're kind of behind 517 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 1: enemy lines with one of the coaches for the coach Skater. 518 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, he's gonna give us a little insight to 519 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: just being a coach with Jeff Saturday, being a former 520 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 1: teammate of Jeff Saturday, and how that is playing for 521 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 1: your teammate because I've heard you've heard coaches argue like 522 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: how do you argue with your boss, but then also 523 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: your former teammate like dude, screw you. We're running a 524 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: cover two like shut up. Yeah, So I'm interested to 525 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 1: see what he says. Well, he just go to the 526 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: general manager, remove yourself from it. But Ron, as always, 527 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: I appreciate you for Tatum Everett, Eric Davidson, and again 528 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: Ron Johnson. My name is Gabe Henderson. See you guys 529 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: on Saturday.