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He overthrew at least one long touchdown and 25 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 4: under threw at least another touchdown touchdowns. There wasn't spectacular 26 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 4: Brandy means, but zero turnovers. In the second half, he 27 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 4: turned it on ten to sixteen, one fourteen and a touchdown, 28 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 4: so there was some context to what he did there 29 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 4: in the game. So, guys, obviously, now that Sam Donald 30 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 4: has got the super Bowl, he played mistake free football 31 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,839 Speaker 4: for about a month. It's clear now more than ever, 32 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 4: that we've all turned the page of Sam Donald. 33 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: Right, not so fast, Gosh, you set up here and 34 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 1: promise through not so fast. 35 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 3: I will give you that he had a clean game, 36 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 3: but I'm not gonna buy into Sam Donald. In fact, 37 00:01:54,920 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 3: I'm calling him scam Donald. He's he gammed his way 38 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 3: into a super Bowl riding a great defense and a 39 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 3: kicker who set a record for field goals because Sam 40 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:09,679 Speaker 3: Donald couldn't. 41 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: Get the team in the end zone. 42 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 3: We know he had the most turnovers in the NFL, yes, twenty. 43 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 3: When you think back to his numbers all year twenty 44 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 3: five touchdowns, fourteen interceptions, it's not great. 45 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: He had an okay season. 46 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 3: His Super Bowl numbers, it was so bad that they 47 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 3: picked a running back with no touchdowns to beat the MVP. 48 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 3: Because they couldn't give it to the defense, They didn't 49 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 3: want to give it to the kicker, so the running 50 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 3: back got it again. A clean game, but it was 51 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 3: not spectacular by any stretch of the imagination. Two hundred 52 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 3: and two yards, one touchdown, seventy four point seven percent 53 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 3: quarterback rating. It was so bad, in fact, that Brad 54 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 3: Johnson and Trent Dilfer had better quarterback ratings than Sam Donald. 55 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 3: Only in two games this year did Sam Donald have 56 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 3: a worse quarterback rating. I mean, that's how bad this 57 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 3: was compared to the rest of the season. He shrunk 58 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 3: when it mattered most, in those big moments. Rob g 59 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 3: talked about two touchdowns that he didn't deliver on in 60 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 3: the red zone and a chance to blow this game open. 61 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 3: Couldn't do it nine to nothing at the half. Celebrate 62 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 3: him all you want. It was a mid performance. And 63 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 3: I'm not giving up the ghost that I'm buying in 64 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 3: the Sam Donald that he's a big time quarterback. 65 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: He's not that quarterback. 66 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 3: Who the Jets drafted and thought that their franchise quarterback 67 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 3: would be. Is he suitable for framing? Can he get 68 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 3: you a Super Bowl with a great defense and kicker? Yes, 69 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 3: he can, but from here on out, he scammed Donald 70 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 3: because he scammed himself into a super. 71 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: Scam Parker is what I'm calling you. Scam Parker. You 72 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:07,839 Speaker 1: set up here, look me in the eyes, and lied 73 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: to me and the people who wake up every day 74 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: listening to our show, going about their day, working hard, 75 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: listening to the pod, ignoring their children and their spouses 76 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: to listen to us. And they heard you say this. 77 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 3: Hit me with that, Mary and Rob g I will 78 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 3: not believe in Sam Donald until he's it's Super Bowl 79 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 3: Sunday and he runs out onto. 80 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: The field he did with the Seahawks and then he 81 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 1: ran up to the stage with a Super Bowl trophy. 82 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 1: Do you believe in him? No, you give him another nickname, 83 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: scam Darno. I'm so mad at you all season long. 84 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: When you did it right, Hey, Rob, you got it right. 85 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: When that happened, you were like, hey, look that happened. 86 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 1: I said it would. And dagget when you're wrong. I 87 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: need you to be wrong. And when you tell the 88 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: people you're gonna do something, you need to believe in them. 89 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: You said you would. Now let's get back to some 90 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: things you brought up this particular game grant you. He 91 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: didn't look like the return to Joe Montana, Tom Brady 92 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 1: and John Elway. But you know what, guess what, you 93 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: know who else didn't the guy who you said should 94 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: have won MVP. You know what Drake may had in 95 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: four games on the postseason, six passing touchdowns, four interceptions. Well, 96 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: I'll say that it was sacked hold up an NFL 97 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: record twenty one times. The reason I bring it up 98 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: is to say, Sam Darnold, you always bring up led 99 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: the NFL and terms, and that's a fact, and I say, hey, 100 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 1: I can't argue j only thing I will say is, hey, 101 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 1: he's been on the three game with Hey. He looked 102 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: great against the NFC Championship game against Hey. He looked 103 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: great in that second, that fourth quarter against the Rams, 104 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: you know, a few weeks back. He's been great since then, 105 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 1: including the specifically Ribu with the turnovers. He did not 106 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: turn the ball over a single time in the posts, 107 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: a clean game. It was huge, though, But that's huge 108 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: in a game like that because turnovers ultimately can turn 109 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: around and be the thing. And this is what he did. 110 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: He didn't make all the big throws. He didn't have 111 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: three hundred four hundred yards. But what he did was 112 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: get his team down the field enough to get said 113 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: field goals. I admit he was boring. We all wanted 114 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 1: more action, but he got those field goals, which were 115 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 1: enough to give them a nice twelve point lead and 116 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: then ultimately nineteen to nothing and then the Patriots scored 117 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: a couple. But my point is he had to do 118 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: what Drake May couldn't do, and Drake May couldn't make 119 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: some of the throws that were there because he was 120 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: seeing ghosts. Ironically enough, which is what Sam Donald said 121 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: back when he was a Jet, Sam Donald did enough. 122 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: He didn't hurt his team. We piled on to CJ. 123 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:28,799 Speaker 1: Straub because he hurt his team. He was the reason 124 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: they lost. When you have a great special team, you're 125 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: well coached, and you have a good defense, you go 126 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: out there and do what you're supposed to do. He 127 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 1: did that, so you gotta put some respect on it. 128 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: And this is to me. Now we're looking at him 129 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: fourteen wins plus with two teams, four thousand yards, two 130 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 1: teams in a row, and now a Super Bowl ring. 131 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: Sam Donald has turned the story around and eternally. When 132 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: you talk about Super Bowl winners, we gotta talk about 133 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: him because he's got the same he's got more than 134 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 1: Dan Marino. He's got the same as Aaron Rodgers, and 135 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: he's got the same as Matthew Stafford and a whole 136 00:06:59,440 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 1: bunch of other. 137 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 3: The only difference is he wasn't the reason that they won. 138 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 3: And that and you can pooh poo it or discount it. 139 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 3: That was all set up for him to write the 140 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 3: Ultimate Disney movie, okay, because that would have been and 141 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 3: it was on the table for him. Like you said, 142 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 3: they moved the ball. There were situations in circumstance. What 143 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 3: he did was he wasn't able to completely erase doubt 144 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 3: a lot of people watching that first half set there 145 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 3: it is that Sam Donald can't get in the end zone. 146 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: It should be twenty one nothing. Instead it's nine to nothing. 147 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 3: Uh, he's letting the Patriots still be in the game 148 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 3: because he couldn't finish the job. It would it would 149 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 3: tell me if he would have gotten some touchdowns early on, 150 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 3: he would have won the MVP. And then you don't 151 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 3: really have an argument, but everybody talks about it. When 152 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 3: ESPN on their main page put up that that the 153 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 3: Seahawks had won, Sam Donald's not in that picture. But 154 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 3: that's the Sam Donald's not in that picture because he 155 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 3: was on the wagon. He wasn't driving the wagon. And 156 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 3: that's the difference. So there will still be people like 157 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 3: yours truly who will look at him as Scam Donald, 158 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 3: not Sam Donald, because he scammed his way into a 159 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 3: super Bowl. 160 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: So let me say this, you're under selling the ability 161 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: to just do your job and to not sure his 162 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: job and to not be the reason that literally had 163 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: been the thing people said. He doesn't win as he 164 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: turns it over with it matters, crunch on, I'll give you. 165 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 3: But did you think he played fine? Okay, he played 166 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:35,959 Speaker 3: mad as you would say. 167 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: Well not to see, no, not when it mattered. That's 168 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 1: what we'll disagree. Ten for sixteen, one hundred and fourteen years. 169 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,319 Speaker 1: And they touched some key runs. No, no, no, but see that. 170 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: But that's where that's when. 171 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 3: Here's when me and you were different because you talk 172 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 3: about Caleb doesn't pass for a fifty more than fifty percent. 173 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 3: I tell you about the big throw to win the game, 174 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 3: And now you're saying you don't care that you don't 175 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 3: care that he threw for a miss fifty percent of 176 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 3: his throws as long as he made the key ones 177 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 3: and won the game. 178 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: So which one is our answer to that? Okay? Which 179 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: one is it? Number one? This is the super Bowl, 180 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 1: this is a winter, this is the super Bowl. That's 181 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: a massiveness. It doesn't number two. I just said he 182 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: was fine. You come in and act like kaylab was 183 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: the greatest thing since, says Brandon. I'll say he was 184 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: fine in that fourth quarter. That's all I say. I 185 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: didn't say Sam Donald was great. I verbade him says 186 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 1: Sam Donald was fine, And that's my point. 187 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 188 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,959 Speaker 2: the nation. 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You 208 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 5: do it today and you can check all of those 209 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 5: out on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you 210 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 5: get your podcasts. 211 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: It is the odd couple. He's Rob. I'm Kevin on 212 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: to Magic City Monday. Appreciate you all, hanging with you 213 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: boys and coming up we got your tire rec play 214 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 1: the Day as well as second Seed. But right now 215 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: checking in with our man Shot King, former NFL quarterback, 216 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio NFL analysts who predicted a blowout. I 217 00:10:58,160 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 1: guess just could just play it. 218 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 3: Doesn't mean you just the way the other way, just 219 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 3: the other way, Sean, what was that? 220 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 6: Let me let me be honest, man, yesterday was a 221 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 6: bith moment. It might have been the worst Super Bowl 222 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 6: we've watched. 223 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: Now, don't do that. Don't do that. They're still Patriots 224 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: rams in a while. It was bad. 225 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 6: I mean it was bad. Sam Donald threw about five 226 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 6: interceptions that you think they didn't catch any of them. 227 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 6: And now we're having the Sam Donald parade. Come on, man, 228 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 6: like Drake May proved that he shouldn't have even been 229 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 6: top five in the MVP vote, and I mean, what 230 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 6: a terrible performance. 231 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: Well wait a minute, I'm with you on the Sam Donald. 232 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 3: We got a new name for him, Sean scam Donald, 233 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 3: because he scammed his way into. 234 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: A super Bowl. 235 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 6: He did right. He threw like five picks and the 236 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 6: patrons dropped every one of them. 237 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: Jean, you know, okay, he threw I admit there's a 238 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: couple that should have been called. That happens every single game. 239 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: You know that don't do that. And nobody's saying he 240 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: was uh Sam Montana. But he did what he did 241 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: with he said c J. Stroud was the supposed to 242 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: do defense going there. But but there were those passes. 243 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 3: That's why that's why you know, people watch that, Sean, 244 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 3: they're not like, oh, Sam Donald's a super Bowl winning quarterback. 245 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: Oh my god, we were all wrong on him. 246 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 3: No, I think, and the big and the big Game 247 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,079 Speaker 3: he looked like the guy that we thought he could 248 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 3: be and it didn't happen. 249 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:20,959 Speaker 1: I thought he would have a couple of picks. I did. 250 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 6: Guy, here's the narrative of yesterday's game. A running back 251 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 6: that did not score a touchdown. One and second in 252 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 6: every voting was the kicker. That's what I'm saying. This 253 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 6: was a terrible game. 254 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: No, nobody's in the game wasn't great. 255 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 7: The bad Bundy was the show that the point that 256 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 7: Sam Donald's third and you're talking about a wide receiver 257 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 7: didn't score and you're talking about a kicker like that 258 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:46,719 Speaker 7: tells you his performance. 259 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: That's why you. 260 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 3: Guys doing a victory lap on Sam Donald's ridiculous. 261 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 1: No, it's not you. You know it's not not when 262 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: you shown not when he was written off and I 263 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: told him made me start preaching again when he was 264 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: cast away and all that Now all he does is 265 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 1: win fourteen games last season. They punted on him. He 266 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: goes out and he didn't have a zero turnovers in 267 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 1: the postseason. So when he needed to not turn it 268 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: over Sean and Rob, he didn't turn it twenty five 269 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 1: and fourteen. 270 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 6: Nobody, I mean, listen, hey, hat tip to the Seattle Seahawks. Uh, 271 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 6: coach McDonald, nobody's talking about him. He did a great job. Uh. Defensively, 272 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 6: they were really really. 273 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: Good and Josh McDaniels had a terrible offensive game play. 274 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: What was the adjustments? Oh, I got we're gonna talk 275 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: about that. When were the adjustments? 276 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 6: Like so so for those that like no football that 277 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 6: there listening, when you have a sizable disadvantage on the edge, 278 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 6: meaning your tackles can't block the opposing team's defensive ends, 279 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 6: then you've got to give them protection. You've got to 280 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 6: put a tight end to Will Campbell's side. 281 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,719 Speaker 1: He was getting murdered, murdered, like, yeah, you had two 282 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: rookies over there. 283 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, and they were just dropping back and I'm like, 284 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 6: what is Josh doing? Like no screen game, you know, 285 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:02,239 Speaker 6: nothing quick. 286 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 3: To get no chicanery or trick play, do something. 287 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 6: It was a terrible game to wise. Thank god for 288 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 6: bad Bunny. He saved NFL Sunday. 289 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: Without a doubt. But let's let's stay in this game. 290 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: Talk about this Seahawks defense, how they've got a resurgence. 291 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: You know, they had the legion the boom for a 292 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: handful of years and was able to get to a 293 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: couple of Super Bowls, win one, and now here they 294 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: are with this particular team. Is this sustainable last year 295 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: that didn't make the postseas yet two teams it didn't 296 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: make the post game on. 297 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 3: Five hundred yards to stat Patford just two weeks ago. 298 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 6: Well here's the macro and of why the NFL is 299 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 6: king you just said it. Two teams that didn't make 300 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 6: the playoffs last year were in the Super Bowl. So 301 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 6: every fan base now feels like the same can happen. 302 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: For them, the Lions fans. 303 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 6: That's the one aspect of the NFL, and I think 304 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 6: superseds all in the league's hope. Hope exists in every 305 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 6: NFL city. By the way, I don't know your Penny 306 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 6: Castick like Rob, but the Seahawks about to be available, 307 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 6: so you know, man, we can get Fox to coach 308 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 6: signed for I know, it's. 309 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: It's amazing that. 310 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're gonna be on the on the and you 311 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 3: know what, I think it makes sense if you don't 312 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 3: want to be involved and you see what's going on 313 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 3: and you just say I'm gonna cash out. Look at 314 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 3: what these teams are selling for the Lakers. Yeah, I 315 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 3: mean the Lakers are sold, the Lakers sold, the Celtics sold. 316 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 3: But you could go, you can look at all these 317 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 3: teams and I could, I could see where that is. 318 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 6: But we've got it. We've got to figure out how 319 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 6: to get our great quarterbacks back in the Super Bowl 320 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 6: because we we deserve better than Sam Donald Drake May. 321 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 6: Yesterday it was hard to watch. 322 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: It was, But I say that to Rob all the time, Sean, 323 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: I say, like, he's abc anybody but the Chiefs, and 324 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: I get that. And I told like, I genuinely get that. Right, 325 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: We've seen them, but there's other guys that Josh Allen is. 326 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 3: I don't want to I don't want to see Patrick 327 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 3: Mahomes anymore. I don't. 328 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 6: I would have preferred John Shallen, Matthew Stafford. Yesterday I 329 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 6: felt like, well that's what. 330 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: We all were hoping by anybody but Stafford, thank you. 331 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 6: And they just scored a touchdown in this game till 332 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 6: middle of the third quarter. 333 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, we were all waking. We needed that. We wanted 334 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: that Josh Allen, you know, to get in there, because 335 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: even though his team isn't loaded, we know how talented 336 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: he is and he could he can make plays only 337 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: he can make so you were banking on that, but 338 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: that wasn't the case. Let me ask you this, So 339 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: if other teams now are watching this, what are some 340 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: teams did you mentioned right there, Josh Allen and the Bills, 341 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: who are saying, all right, man, that that should have 342 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: been us? Is this the Rams look at themselves as saying, 343 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: we were a fourth down conversion away from that being 344 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. We can repeat hopefully next year. 345 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 6: I mean, that's the energy there. But a lot has 346 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 6: happened between now and the beginning of next season. I mean, 347 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 6: we got free agency coming up, We've got the NFL Draft. 348 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 6: I mean, there are what ten new head coaches out 349 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 6: of the thirty two, so you're talking about, you know, 350 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 6: over a third of the league, you know it has 351 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 6: a new head coach. So I mean it's a lot of, 352 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 6: you know, things that are going to happen over the 353 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 6: next four months to kind of determine like who catches 354 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 6: think about this. Geron Mayo was the hit coach of 355 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 6: the Patriots last year. They fired him out the one 356 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 6: year UH installed Mike Rabel and caught fire. So everybody's 357 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 6: got hope right now. That's why the NFL is king 358 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 6: the Rams I think they might have missed their window. 359 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: I really do that was that was a missed opportunity. 360 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 3: To remember, they had the number one seed and they 361 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 3: lost to Atlanta, choked that game against Seattle and. 362 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,880 Speaker 6: Blew it up special teams shames. 363 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 3: Yep, and they fired the special teams coach, and they 364 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 3: still didn't get there. I was going to ask you 365 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 3: about Mike about yeah, about like everybody was ready to 366 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,199 Speaker 3: crown him all first year, you know, look at him, 367 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 3: and quickly that went away, especially when you lose in 368 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 3: that fashion. I know they made it to the Super Bowl, 369 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,199 Speaker 3: but now you start to peel the onion back. Can 370 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 3: see all awards, and I don't think people feel as 371 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 3: good about him now after that Super Bowl. 372 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 6: I disagree because he's a defensive guy, and defensively, the 373 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 6: Patriots played good enough to win a championship yesterday. But 374 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 6: it is the problem when you have a defensive head coach. 375 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 6: He's so dependent on others when the offense stalls. Like 376 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 6: his brilliance, his creativeness is on the defensive side of 377 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,400 Speaker 6: the ball. Remember this was a three zero six zero 378 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 6: nine zero twelve zero. 379 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: Well that's only because Sam Donald couldn't get in the 380 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: end zone. 381 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 6: But defensively, which is Ray brawl. He's a defensive coach. 382 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 3: I'm just saying like they were already ready to write 383 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 3: a book about you know what I mean. And I 384 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 3: always say, you got to pump the brakes until somebody 385 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 3: actually wins. I remember the Chris Paul coronation when they 386 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 3: were up to all against Milwaukee. 387 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 1: Oh, he's ahead of Isaiah. Do you remember all that? 388 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: He finally got it done. It proves where he is. 389 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: I'll get it, and then all of a sudden it wasn't. 390 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. 391 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 6: I don't know. I don't know if shine is off 392 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 6: a little bit. I think the shine on Drake mays off. Well, 393 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 6: I think, yeah, he's got to go back and prove 394 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 6: himself over again next year. 395 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 3: Well here's my thing even on that. On the MVP voting, 396 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 3: which is weird. Stafford won, but twenty six out of 397 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 3: the fifty people did not vote for Matthew Stafford. 398 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: What does that say to you, Sean six out of 399 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 1: the fifty. 400 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 6: People don't watch the NFL. 401 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: These are NFL writers. 402 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 3: I'm going to push back on that, so I don't 403 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 3: believe that they cover the league. The only people that 404 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 3: vote cover the league, not watch TV cover the league. 405 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 6: So here's here's what I mean by that. Rob your energy. 406 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 6: When you were in Detroit covering Alliance was on the 407 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 6: Detroit Lions. Now you watch the rest of the league, 408 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 6: but not as intently as you watch the Lions and 409 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 6: the teams in the Lion's division. And that that that 410 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 6: rings true for almost all the people that vote for 411 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 6: all of these awards. 412 00:19:56,600 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 1: But no, but no, no, no, but they you Okay, 413 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: here's my issue. 414 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 6: You're watching the Seahawks and Rams play on the West Coast. 415 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 6: You're just not doing that much. 416 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 3: But no, no, no, but you're watching the league. You 417 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 3: keep up with it. What I'm saying is you're act games. 418 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 3: You're you're actually there watching and you talk. 419 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 6: To other people, a prisoner of the schedule. 420 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 3: No what what What you gotta look at is they're 421 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,719 Speaker 3: looking at it too, and they're saying, he has all 422 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 3: these weapons. They got Pookah, they got Davonte, he should 423 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 3: be putting up numbers and maybe they discounted. 424 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. Like if you like and 425 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: they look at Drake Man, go, well who is he 426 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 1: throwing to? You know what I mean? I'm not saying 427 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 1: I think. 428 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 6: A lot of a lot of it too, was that 429 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:42,439 Speaker 6: none of the others really showed up this year. You 430 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 6: think Mahomes had a down year, Lamar had a down year. 431 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: Oh, no doubt about it. Oh no, there's no doubt 432 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: about that. 433 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 6: It was definitely that Josh had a couple national spotlight games. 434 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 6: Remember the Texas game where they sacked in like fifty 435 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 6: five and a half times like so, so some of 436 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 6: the other big names I think had some part years 437 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 6: for them. 438 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 3: All right, the last thing, did you spend? Did you 439 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:04,360 Speaker 3: put a lot of money on that game? He said 440 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 3: it was going to be a blowout of you didn't 441 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 3: bet money? 442 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,199 Speaker 6: Yeah, So here's what I needed to ask. Because I 443 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 6: do the show once a weekend, we normally stop, not 444 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 6: that football is over, but I got to recoup some 445 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 6: of my losses. So if you guys can bring me home, 446 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 6: you know, three every week. 447 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 1: That's fun. 448 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 6: Right. 449 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 1: Some other listeners probably about the tweets do I listened 450 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: to show and I put the house on its right Sean. 451 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 6: Great season is always Fellers, Thanks for having me, and 452 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 6: I guess we'll get started on the Dodgers one of 453 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 6: another world series. 454 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: No, no, don't stop that man, sean, thank you appreciate 455 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: it as always, all. 456 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 6: Right, fellas. 457 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 458 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 459 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 2: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 460 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 2: listen live. 461 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: And ask promise we got our guy. TJ. Whosman's out 462 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,479 Speaker 1: of former Pro Bowl wide receiver co host of up 463 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: on Game of Fox Sports Radio, Who's Shady? Four on X? 464 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: TJ Man? Great game, defensively, boring game, snooze fest. How'd 465 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: you view it? 466 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 8: I thought it was a great game, obviously it was. 467 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 8: I would I'm never gonna call the football game boring. 468 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 8: It was just a great defensive showing by the Seattle Seahawks. 469 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 1: J Come on, that was awful. You like good football. 470 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 8: The Seahawks had the New England Patriots and handcuffs the 471 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 8: whole game. 472 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 9: They could do nothing. 473 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,239 Speaker 1: I don't know how you could enjoy that as a 474 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 1: wide receiver. How in the world that game? 475 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 8: I mean as a receiver, of course, yeah, I mean 476 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 8: for both teams. The Patriots had a bunch of garbage 477 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 8: yards at the end, and Seattle pretty much just dominated 478 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 8: the game running the ball. Yeah, if you're a receiver. 479 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 8: You want to see points scored, of course, but. 480 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 3: You I just want to see both sa I just 481 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 3: want to see a more balanced game. I'm not saying 482 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 3: I just from entertainment value. I just didn't get it. 483 00:22:58,720 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 3: I didn't think it. 484 00:22:59,359 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: Was a good game. 485 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 8: Honestly though, when you when the defensive ends now in 486 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 8: today's football, man, these dudes are just really good. They 487 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 8: are really good because it's almost impossible, man, if you 488 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 8: really look at how like you can't even you don't 489 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 8: have a lot of time to throw the ball. These 490 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 8: d ns and these defensive lines are so good. 491 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 3: But wait a minute. They gave him five hundred yards 492 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 3: to the Rams. Like I get it, and everybody want 493 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:28,959 Speaker 3: to say how great their defense. 494 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 8: But the Rams are at home, So I don't care 495 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 8: how many yards you gave up. The Rams are at home. 496 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: No, I get it. 497 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 3: But I'm just saying, it's not like they kept everybody 498 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 3: under seventy five yards because you couldn't figure out a 499 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 3: plan to get around it. I mean, did Josh McDaniels, 500 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 3: I mean he should have been fired. What did he 501 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 3: make adjustments or what it was? I wanted to ask 502 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:49,400 Speaker 3: the question. 503 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 1: I mean, TJ you know the game better than us. 504 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 8: When you go into a game as an offensive coordinator 505 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 8: and they show you certain looks over the span of 506 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 8: seventeen games, you plan, okay, and this down and this 507 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 8: and this is probably the look we're going to get. 508 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 8: And when you don't get that look, it's like, oh, 509 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,919 Speaker 8: they're going off what they normally do, and so it 510 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 8: takes you time to get used to that. And it's 511 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 8: what you say, you have to adjust, and they didn't 512 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 8: adjust fast enough. 513 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 1: That was the problem I had, just I didn't see 514 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: the adjustment. And let me add to that, TJ. And 515 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 1: I've asked this to Rob with a couple of times, 516 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 1: and Caleb Williams being a great example. Sometimes I feel like, uh, hello, 517 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: you're not showcasing what makes this particular young quarterback dynamic. 518 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 1: And two guys in their second years. In Caleb, I 519 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,959 Speaker 1: thought that Ben Johnson failed in that second half against 520 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: the Rams, and he didn't run him enough. He didn't, 521 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: whether it be intentionally like some drawn plays or say 522 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: hey man, if it ain't there, dip out. And the 523 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 1: same thing with Drake may I thought all right, let's 524 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 1: draw some runs up, let's draw some RPOs, just to 525 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: keep them honest. Or do something different. Why didn't they 526 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: use That's what makes those quarterbacks dynamic. 527 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 8: You would have you would think that you you're gonna 528 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 8: try everything in the Super Bowl. But what happens is 529 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 8: when you you say O camera, you're on your call sheet, 530 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 8: and you get to those plays a bit too late. 531 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 8: You start going to those plays and it's almost too late, 532 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 8: and you looked up and game's over. I believe that's 533 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 8: what happened. I wouldn't say Josh mc daniels has done 534 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 8: really well all year. 535 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 6: Well, ultimately, when you when they. 536 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:27,199 Speaker 8: Needed it the most, he wasn't there. They couldn't make 537 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 8: any plays. They literally could not make any plays at all. 538 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: What about Sam Donald? 539 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 3: I mean first half he made the kicker and the 540 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 3: wide receiver with no touchdowns and the defense, everybody that 541 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 3: that was on the table for Sam Donald to really 542 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 3: be the MVP, be the Disney movie and all that. 543 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 3: And he missed fifty percent of his passes. He missed 544 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 3: a couple of touchdowns, he threw a couple won that 545 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,199 Speaker 3: was a couple of balls that could have been intercepted. 546 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 3: Just his performance, you know, in that moment, I. 547 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 8: Felt like once Kenneth Walker first played the game. I 548 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 8: think he broke for like eleven yards. I literally said, 549 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 8: in the first quart I said, oh, he's getting MVP. 550 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 8: He's gonna be MVP of the game. 551 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:15,919 Speaker 1: Eleven yards. 552 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,439 Speaker 8: No, because then in the first quarter, I think he 553 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 8: had like forty yards rushing and I was like, Oh, 554 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 8: the New England Patriots are having a hard time stopping 555 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 8: the run. 556 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 6: And if you're. 557 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 8: Seattle, why would you go away from it? 558 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 6: Why would you go? 559 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 3: I get that, I get that. But even when Donald 560 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 3: had a chance to make plays passing, I mean, like 561 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 3: I said, he missed fifty percent of his passes. That's 562 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. IM talking about when he was throwing 563 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 3: the football. 564 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 8: He was nineteen for thirty eight, man, which is crazy 565 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 8: to win a Super Bowl and you complete fifty But 566 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 8: just just goes to show you as much as we 567 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 8: get a quarterbacks all this credit. Man, football is ultimate 568 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 8: team game, because if the defense and everybody else don't 569 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 8: do their job, everybody is saying, oh, yes, Sam Donald 570 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 8: is sam Donalons is a Super Bowl winning quarterback. Sam 571 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 8: Donald came out the same draft class as Baker Mayfield, 572 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:18,120 Speaker 8: Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen. If I'm not correct, is that yeah? 573 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:18,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right. 574 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,439 Speaker 8: He's the first quarterback out of that draft class win 575 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 8: the super Bowl. 576 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. Picture and if you picture that, after all the 577 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: teams that left him, you know, he's sitting there watching 578 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: the same game as a backup. You know, with the 579 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 1: with the forty nine ers winning, it. 580 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 3: Would be different. And and and I'm I'm I'm on 581 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 3: a different plane when it comes to him. If he 582 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 3: was a Super Bowl MVP and and did all. 583 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: It took everything to get him there and blah blah blah, 584 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:46,919 Speaker 1: you would I would look at it. 585 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 3: There are team people who looked at him and his 586 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 3: performance yesterday and said, yeah, he won. But nobody went, 587 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 3: oh my god, he's going to be like the next 588 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 3: great thing, and we blew it. 589 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody's saying I think the vikings are 590 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: absolutely Do you think people are saying that after that performance. 591 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 8: I don't the vikings. 592 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 9: Yeah, the vikings just sitting there like, oh, we blew 593 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 9: that that. You have to, Yes, you didn't make the 594 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 9: playoffs and the quarterback that you had just won the 595 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,919 Speaker 9: Super Bowl. You have to be saying, ah, we kind of. 596 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 8: Blew that one. 597 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:19,919 Speaker 6: You have to. 598 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 8: That's phony natural. 599 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 1: And they're not sold on JJ. Yet that's the thing 600 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: is sod TJ. 601 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 3: You watched him last year, dude, that the reason that 602 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 3: he was available is he went the bend the two 603 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 3: biggest games. Let's just like you're acting like you could 604 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 3: have a revisionist history after the fact. 605 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: But at that. 606 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 3: Time, they didn't like the way he performed in that 607 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 3: game against Detroit where just like in this game, couldn't 608 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 3: get in the end zone. 609 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: You remember that game, TJ. 610 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 3: They were in the red zone left and right, couldn't 611 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 3: get in the end zone. 612 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: And then the game against the Rams, he couldn't get 613 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: anything going. 614 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 3: And I'm just saying, and I'm not sitting there, we 615 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 3: could easily look now, he went to the Super Bowl 616 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 3: and they won, but there were something they moved up 617 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 3: to get JJ McCarthy. Right, They got a coach that 618 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 3: they believe is a quarterback whisperer who can make people better. Right, 619 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 3: even Daniel Jones went there and they and felt like 620 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 3: he improved or whatever. And I'm just saying, those are 621 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 3: the reasons why they moved off of him. 622 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 8: I'm gonna say this when yes, you can say they 623 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 8: moved off of him, and it was because he didn't 624 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 8: win the big game. But when you play the way 625 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 8: he just played a miss game with what was on 626 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 8: the line, you have to give me miscredit because there's 627 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 8: a lot of quarterbacks that couldn't do that. 628 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: There's a lot of them what not throwing a turnover it. 629 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: It was just a clean game. It wasn't spectacular. I'm 630 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: just not throwing any confetti at Sam. He wasn't. He 631 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: wasn't John Elway. But that's the thing is that if 632 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: I'm known. 633 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 3: For HEJ said it earlier that when a quarterback winning 634 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 3: a Super Bowl with those numbers, you wouldn't even believe it. 635 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: But he's known for having bad games in the big one. 636 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: He's no, and he didn't. He went the whole postseason 637 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: TJ without without a turnover the whole That's what he 638 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 1: was known for. TJ. 639 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 3: Who had a higher quarterback rating in their Super Bowls? 640 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 3: Sam Donald, Brad Johnson or Trent Dilferd. 641 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 8: I mean, I'm gonna say those quarterbacks, I'm taking Sam Donald, 642 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 8: to be honest with you, I don't know who has 643 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 8: I know. 644 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 3: I know that Sam Donald was last on that list, 645 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 3: so so Brad Johnson. 646 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 6: I knew when you act question. 647 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: But a couple TJ. 648 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 8: You know there's only four quarterbacks to go through an 649 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 8: entire playoffs without a turnover. Sam Dona's one of them. 650 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 8: Brees is another one. I believe Peyton Mannon also did it. 651 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 8: No turnovers in any of the playoff games. That's hard 652 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 8: to do. 653 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 3: There were a couple of turnovers that the Patriots didn't squeeze, 654 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 3: but I give it to him. 655 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 8: I'm not early in the game early. 656 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 1: Yes they did, did they did? But he made some 657 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 1: big throws, all right? Well? Any other any other thought 658 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: from it? 659 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 6: Man? 660 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: Were you're getting your bad bunny on? Yes? 661 00:30:58,760 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 6: I didn't think. I thought. 662 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 8: I thought the halftime show was actually pretty good. I 663 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 8: didn't understand it, but it was. It was entertaining. I 664 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 8: will say that I couldn't understand him, but I was entertained. 665 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: No doubt. And we're looking at right now. One of 666 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 1: the news station here, they had a live shot of 667 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: Villa's Tacos, which is the taco spot he showed in 668 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: the in the performance There famous to one in La 669 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: Not a line is wrapped around the bill live shot 670 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: right now, TJ. 671 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 3: Because of that, and TJ. Kelvin understood it because he's 672 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 3: by legal. 673 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: See how you trying to see TJ. Okay, you see 674 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:29,959 Speaker 1: what I'm dealing with. 675 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 6: TJ. 676 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, what I said, you better get to that lingo quick. 677 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: You better get to that lingo quick, for they try 678 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,479 Speaker 1: to chop that up and just leave it there. TJ. 679 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 1: Appreciate it, my man. 680 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 8: Man, I appreciate y'all. Man, y'all take care of fellas. 681 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: No doubt. Yeah, you know the Internet, I'd be liking 682 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: to play games. Don't have them? Have you out here? 683 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: I said it as quickly as I could. I just 684 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 1: couldn't know you didn't have what he had, A shrimp 685 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: in your throat or something like that. Script a script