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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, back from vacation. This guy back with a bang,

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Speaker 2: this show. It's Morning Combat, Monday, July twenty eighth of

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Speaker 2: the twenty fives. And yes we are here. They haven't

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Speaker 2: Maybe a little bit of your d MS than some

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Speaker 2: of my she apt but Luke Thomas, back off the bird,

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Speaker 2: back where you belong in that chair. I would never

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Speaker 2: by the way, where Pablo Torret finds out. Can't Pablo

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Speaker 2: get to the bottom of the Epstein situation? Uh? Well

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Speaker 2: would they kill him? They?

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Speaker 1: You know, the vengeance has no boundance. But yeah, happy

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Speaker 1: to be back. Do you see that butt sniffer got arrested.

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Speaker 2: Yeah finally, Yeah, he had a good run though. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean you know he is the MK fan

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Speaker 2: My dogs would love that guy, you know, they really,

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Speaker 2: they really would. It'd be great right there, Luke, how

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Speaker 2: was your vacate? Please tell the people.

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Speaker 1: You know me. I'd normally like taking these long ass vacations.

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Speaker 1: This one was about half the length of the normal

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Speaker 2: Only two episodes. By the way, the people that filled

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Speaker 1: Shot Sean to tell Mike Bond who also filled in.

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Speaker 2: Rave Bartholomew bred Okamoto.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, so shouts to all those folks. Dude,

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Speaker 1: I gotta tell you. We went to Portugal and ten

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Speaker 2: Okay, the last time you were at something like this,

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Speaker 1: So I went and toward the you've never heard of

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Speaker 2: Little we We We stayed. I know about Benfico, two

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Speaker 1: ubers in every day. Dude, Portugal is I cannot. I

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Speaker 1: cannot overstate to you. If you've never gone and you've

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Speaker 1: I was expecting it to be like Spain, where everything

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Speaker 1: My wife speaks Portuguese for the most part, so it

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Speaker 1: was fine. But do English. Is everywhere, Everything's affordable, You've

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Speaker 2: You healed part of your soul on this trip.

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Speaker 1: It was really nice. It did lead to me to

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Speaker 2: I did know a lot of families who, by design,

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I saw you. I watched the highlights, but

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Speaker 2: I don't think that party thing is as bad. He

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, Look, I don't deal with like, I

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Speaker 2: now questioning not does he not have toughness, but does

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Speaker 1: Like does he not have focus? Is a bigger issue

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Speaker 1: am I there's something that you gotta hit your levels right.

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Speaker 2: When you don't have the levels right, it's like.

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Speaker 1: It does suck. Also, can that's a question did they

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Speaker 2: He's just walking it doesn't seem like the UFC.

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Speaker 1: I think is going to be a pretty consistent issue

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00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:45,960
Speaker 1: is that guys don't want to get wrapped up with him.

437
00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,800
Speaker 1: He's got that long arm to clinch over the back,

438
00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:50,720
Speaker 1: which he uses to trip or at least harassed or

439
00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,280
Speaker 1: a bare minimum stall out guys. And if he does

440
00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:54,680
Speaker 1: get the back or it does get on top, he's

441
00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,359
Speaker 1: obviously going to be a pretty significant problem they and

442
00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,320
Speaker 1: those knees up the middle are a problem as well.

443
00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,560
Speaker 1: They just don't want close contact with him. But he's

444
00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,840
Speaker 1: long and he's lanky, so they end up having having

445
00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:05,159
Speaker 1: to fight at a distance that I think is a

446
00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,720
Speaker 1: little bit difficult for them. That's what you're noticing. But

447
00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,000
Speaker 1: if you can make him miss, which does not appear

448
00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:14,000
Speaker 1: that hard necessarily for elite fighters, oh my god, dude,

449
00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:15,480
Speaker 1: he's there to be feasted on.

450
00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:16,920
Speaker 2: He has his his.

451
00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:20,680
Speaker 1: Positioning is terrible. It's terrible. It really is like I

452
00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:22,600
Speaker 1: hate I like the guy, don't get me wrong. And

453
00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:26,560
Speaker 1: I started this conversation by advocating that, you know, depending

454
00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:27,840
Speaker 1: on how things go, I would like to see him

455
00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,159
Speaker 1: be the title shot over Imavov, which I still hold to.

456
00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:32,680
Speaker 1: But there were so many times I was like, dude,

457
00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,639
Speaker 1: Whittaker engaged with this fucking guy, you can light him up.

458
00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,040
Speaker 1: And he did briefly obviously, but well.

459
00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:39,919
Speaker 2: It speaks to the high level experience he got at

460
00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:41,920
Speaker 2: one championship. We know the two losses, but at a

461
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,840
Speaker 2: higher way class to Mallikin. He was a two division champion.

462
00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,480
Speaker 2: That all lines up, but maybe the fact that he's

463
00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,400
Speaker 2: fighting so actively for fights in eight and a half

464
00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,680
Speaker 2: months that like people aren't as up on him. This

465
00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:55,879
Speaker 2: is a hard guy to pick up. He's also got

466
00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,280
Speaker 2: enormous size. He's also got an enormous gas tank. I mean,

467
00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,639
Speaker 2: he really answered eight of questions in this fight. Yet

468
00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,240
Speaker 2: when they went to the score cards, I really felt

469
00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,560
Speaker 2: ultimately I scored at three rounds to two for RDR,

470
00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,399
Speaker 2: but I felt like it could have gone either way

471
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,720
Speaker 2: when those scorecards were read. Do you did you feel

472
00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,360
Speaker 2: like there was an argument for Whittaker.

473
00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought Whittaker might have edged it. Look at

474
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:18,359
Speaker 1: these score cards here, so all three are consistent that

475
00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,320
Speaker 1: Whittaker won the first. All three are consistent. De Ritter

476
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:22,520
Speaker 1: won the second.

477
00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 2: I gave Ridda the second.

478
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:27,000
Speaker 1: All three are consistent that Whittaker won the third, which

479
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:28,119
Speaker 1: I think is the right call.

480
00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,040
Speaker 2: And that's the wild round where de Rittter was dominating,

481
00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:32,440
Speaker 2: but then he got knocked down with that right hand,

482
00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:33,880
Speaker 2: and then he had success after that as well.

483
00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,399
Speaker 1: And all three are consistent that Deritter won the fifth.

484
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,439
Speaker 1: It's round four where you have a little bit of

485
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 1: change there.

486
00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,000
Speaker 2: Between two, four or five. Deritter, what did you score

487
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:43,960
Speaker 2: for Whittaker there.

488
00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,800
Speaker 1: Whitaker, I had one three.

489
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:52,000
Speaker 2: Four. I think I would not have cried foul if

490
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,640
Speaker 2: Whittaker won that, and it'd be an entirely different scenario

491
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:56,480
Speaker 2: right now. And certainly I don't there's no there's no

492
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:57,080
Speaker 2: rigging here.

493
00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,080
Speaker 1: I mean, but the way, I don't think it's any

494
00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 1: scandal like when like yeah or anything.

495
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,159
Speaker 2: But it was refreshing to see a new player in

496
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:04,560
Speaker 2: the mix, even if it comes at the expense of

497
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 2: one of my favorite fighters of all time, a living legend.

498
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,200
Speaker 2: It was refreshing to see this new guy on the

499
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:13,640
Speaker 2: scene who has this demeanor. Now as like, this cool

500
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,159
Speaker 2: guy that doesn't take anything personally, doesn't seem to put

501
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,240
Speaker 2: a lot of pressure on himself, is obviously training his

502
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,919
Speaker 2: balls off. Do you still feel like, how much did

503
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,679
Speaker 2: this Whitaker fight do to increase the fuel of the

504
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 2: idea that any given night this guy could be the

505
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:26,119
Speaker 2: next champion.

506
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that that's what that taught me. I

507
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,400
Speaker 1: did not look at that and think, oh he can.

508
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 1: Here's what it taught me. A fight between him and DDP,

509
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,880
Speaker 1: And I mean this quite affectionately might be the goofiest

510
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 1: fight of all time, right because it's two guys who.

511
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,119
Speaker 2: Be in there with ben Askrin and Maya by the way,

512
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,960
Speaker 2: which was the grossest striking we've ever seen. But I

513
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:48,880
Speaker 2: don't mean it like that.

514
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 1: I actually I actually mean like you might get a

515
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 1: lot of potent offense in either direction, but both guys

516
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,920
Speaker 1: tend to have these really weird styles where the thing

517
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,399
Speaker 1: that they do don't line up a lot of times

518
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:08,159
Speaker 1: with what we would call textbook skill or textbook technical application,

519
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,360
Speaker 1: and yet the results speak for themselves. I mean, there's

520
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 1: an argument to be made. We'll see what happens with

521
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 1: Morob against Corey Sandhagen, and if he wins it, I

522
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,680
Speaker 1: think he's really locking it up. But RDR is in

523
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,440
Speaker 1: play here for Fighter of the Year with the way

524
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:25,880
Speaker 1: he's going. The year is still young. He hasn't locked

525
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:27,439
Speaker 1: it up, but he's on I mean you mentioned the

526
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 1: hot hand, he's on the hottest hands. So like to

527
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,919
Speaker 1: your point, there's a certain level of unpredictability, there's a

528
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 1: certain level of that they break the rules, and yet

529
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 1: there is a clear expectation and deliverance on winning and

530
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:46,400
Speaker 1: offense and applicability. So like my point is that fight

531
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,440
Speaker 1: was the one I like. The reason why I want

532
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 1: to see the fight is because if Hamza wins, I

533
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 1: think that RDR might get overwhelmed, but because he's good

534
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 1: on the ground, it would make it interesting. Sure, the

535
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 1: DDP fight to me against RDR is interesting because it

536
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:05,919
Speaker 1: would be so outrageously weird. That Dudema mma is built

537
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,719
Speaker 1: off the backs of weirdness. People think it's built off

538
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 1: the backs of wanton violence, and it is, but it's

539
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 1: also built off the back of just insanity.

540
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 2: I mean, guys our age who got into the sport

541
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 2: in the midst of their early run in the nineties,

542
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 2: got into it for the insanity of we get to

543
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 2: watch a real street fight happened in front of them. Yeah,

544
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 2: but also like, no, that's the selling point for you, right,

545
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 2: That's how you got in sort of is you didn't

546
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,920
Speaker 2: get in under this while I love Jesudes, No, you're

547
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 2: some punk kid listening to grunge music and you're like,

548
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 2: they're gonna Actually was the opposite.

549
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 1: I had a friend who was a martial arts instructor

550
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 1: came to the house and said, you guys, see what

551
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 1: this Brazilian guy is doing.

552
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 2: I really did backdoor this. Yeah.

553
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 1: So so the what I'm trying to make is the

554
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 1: you don't get an opportunity to put a DDP and

555
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:46,640
Speaker 1: an RDR together very often, particularly for a UFC title

556
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,400
Speaker 1: at the same time. Sure, and for that reason, that's

557
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 1: to me, like we need more unique moments. There's so

558
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 1: much of MMA that just blends together. There's so much

559
00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 1: of MMA this becomes gray and monotone, and RDR is

560
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 1: for all his faults, full of color. DDP for all

561
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 1: of his faults is full of color. And you white

562
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 1: guys just you know, I'm saying in a metaphorical sense

563
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 1: obviously fuck face, and so when you put them together

564
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 1: you get something weirdly magical.

565
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 2: That's kind of what I RDR is, kind of delightfully weird.

566
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 2: We do have the streaking middleweight talking about what could

567
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 2: be next for him. Let's listen.

568
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 3: In just said I want to thirty days of lying

569
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 3: on the beach eating barbecue in Florida. It's just rid

570
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 3: of the axing. That's what I want feel now. Just

571
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 3: my kids laid down for a while and then choked

572
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 3: treekas and hums out of dude.

573
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,880
Speaker 1: Can you can you mute that and show him one

574
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,640
Speaker 1: more time? Or if that's possible or not? Is that possible?

575
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 2: Dude?

576
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 1: Why are you wearing the headphones over your fucking forehead?

577
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 1: What is that? He's wearing it like a nineteen.

578
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,919
Speaker 2: Twenties it's probably too he doesn't realize that you can stretch.

579
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 2: I don't know, but he does seem like an intelligent

580
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 2: man despite that performance right there. We also have r

581
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 2: DR talking about how close this fight with Whitaker was

582
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 2: and whether he thinks the scores were in line with

583
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,360
Speaker 2: what we saw. How confident were you when they were

584
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 2: announcing the scorecard?

585
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 6: That you won.

586
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 3: I thought I was surprised that one judge scored it

587
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 3: like completely wrong. I thought I had three rounds at least.

588
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 3: But yeah, it is what it is. I shouldn't. I

589
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 3: hope to finish him, and I didn't, So you never

590
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 3: know what the judges make of it. But I'll be

591
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 3: sure to finish the next guy. Again.

592
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 5: Which round did you think the three rounds that you won?

593
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 2: In your opinion, I don't know.

594
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 3: I gotta watch his back, but at least the last

595
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 3: two rounds, right, maybe the second as well. I got

596
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 3: on top of a couple of times. I heard him

597
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 3: a couple of times with the knee. But this guy

598
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 3: is a tough guy. He was hard to put away.

599
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 3: He did amazing. I think I said it a couple

600
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 3: times already, but one of the best robs I've seen

601
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 3: in years. You're so calm, collected, very explosive. Yeah, it's

602
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 3: hard work. It's see what happens. There's a lot going

603
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 3: on in the middleweight division the next couple of weeks.

604
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 3: As you said, I'm I'm a top five fighter in

605
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:26,199
Speaker 3: the world. Man, that's crazy. Who can say that year?

606
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 3: By the way, in one year? Yeah, and I think

607
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 3: I have a good chance fighting for a title some

608
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 3: day soon, so we'll see.

609
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 7: In one of his interviews, Absati might have said that

610
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 7: he is going to give ten thousand dollars for anyone

611
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 7: who can submit him in training. Do you think you

612
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 7: would be able to do this?

613
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 3: I hope to submit him and make a little bit

614
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 3: more than ten thousand dollars in the cage.

615
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 7: If all of a sudden you see tells you do

616
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 7: you want to be a backup fighter for the championship fight,

617
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 7: would you consider.

618
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,719
Speaker 3: I'm gonna if once I heard here it is, I'm

619
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 3: going to take a full day in the ice bat,

620
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 3: recover from this, get in the HYPERBADCT the next day,

621
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 3: and then I'll be ready to go.

622
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 2: There'll be too much of a company guy right there, Luke.

623
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 2: If it really did come down to be our dr or,

624
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,360
Speaker 2: I know he's got it well the winner of Kyle Barrajo.

625
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:25,400
Speaker 2: But ohio, oh, I have an update on this versus off,

626
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 2: excuse me, mov off. Then I think he would RDR

627
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 2: would win this. But is there any other scenario, like,

628
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 2: is there anyone else? What if does CHAMAIAV potentially win

629
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,479
Speaker 2: the title, change this path and bring somebody else back in.

630
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 2: What I'm basically asking you is, if he doesn't get

631
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 2: the title shot next, should he sit out and wait

632
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 2: considering he just fought four times in eight months, or

633
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,959
Speaker 2: is there another top middleweight that we could see him

634
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 2: against the not a Sogna or Strickland or something like that.

635
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean those two names apparently, as he has

636
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: been calling out Strickland, who doesn't want it. Also Strickland,

637
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: as I understand it, now suspended at least for a little.

638
00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 2: While by the Las Vegas Commission, by Nevadicadematicmissions.

639
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 1: I understand it. So I don't know how long that's

640
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 1: going to last. People be like, oh, you can just

641
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: fight somewhere else. No, you can't. If you're suspended in

642
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: Las Vegas, they are absolutely not going to book you

643
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: anywhere else. It's called reciprocal.

644
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, John Jones, they won't move you during Christmas week.

645
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: But he wasn't suspended, get it. They just didn't know

646
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 1: what to do with him. It's a bit different anyway.

647
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,239
Speaker 1: So there are other scenarios, but it just feels like

648
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 1: Imovov would get the NOD only if they had some

649
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: interest in taking him back to France, or if his

650
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: win is like uniquely amazing. Hen yeah, exactly in that case,

651
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 1: but because you know, obviously Rdyr did not get the

652
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: win or the finish excuse me. But short of that,

653
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: I think rdy rs and I think he's in, you know,

654
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 1: a good position here?

655
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 3: Does it?

656
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 4: Roman Delede have a big fighting I don't think he's

657
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 4: fighting Fluffy Hernandez not this weekend.

658
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 2: Okay, but they're Fluffy is still technically in the winner's bracket.

659
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, but he's sub top He's in the top ten,

660
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: not top five.

661
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 2: I'm still a further way back yet.

662
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: So I have an update on Rinaldo Ronaldo I got.

663
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: I got a clarification on this.

664
00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 2: What the hell are we talking about here?

665
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: Because you mentioned Bohelio and how you couldn't pronounce his name.

666
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 2: I never can pronounce his name, and yeah, I can't

667
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 2: do it.

668
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: It's like it's a mental block. I got an answer

669
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: to this from the Portuguese because I asked, like a

670
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: bunch of people.

671
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 2: I knew you'd do this, Okay, I asked a.

672
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: Bunch of them. Okay, so here's what we're misunderstanding. What

673
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: they told me was the Brazilians they do take the

674
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: R and pronounce it like we would take the H

675
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: or the two r's in the middle and like an

676
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: H about a hard R. Yes, so listen to me.

677
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 1: So it's hoist. It's hoist Gracie or not Ferrera, but fajta.

678
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: But what they said they do is something a little

679
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 1: bit different to them. They don't really consider it an H.

680
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 1: What they say is they quote curl the R, so

681
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 1: it's a in between an R and an H. Still

682
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: an R just slightly muted in that way so it

683
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 1: sounds like an H. But they actually say it's more

684
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 1: like what the French would say. There are is in

685
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: the back of the throat. Congratulations, there's your answer.

686
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 2: I don't put anything. I want you to know that

687
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 2: except except five. Once I've seen you before we speak

688
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 2: on what could be next in Robert Whitaker's future. Please

689
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 2: put the camera on me, because now is a good

690
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:14,480
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691
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,600
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692
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693
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694
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Speaker 2: the same family, the same land, that same passion on

695
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Speaker 2: top of it. Two hundred and thirty years later, folks,

696
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697
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:37,080
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698
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700
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 2: of our rousing pregame preview UFC pay per view series.

701
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 2: We just had a great one three eighteen with Jed meshu.

702
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 2: Mm hm, who do you think we should have as

703
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 2: the third man coming up this August ahead of three nineteen?

704
00:31:59,240 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: Sophia Virgo?

705
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 2: Wow?

706
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: Can we book her? We should just, you know, we

707
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: should do We should just book a porn star and

708
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: then just have her help help preview the fights. Yeah.

709
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: I don't, Yeah, I don't like asa. Okay, I'll just

710
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: leave it alone.

711
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:18,479
Speaker 2: I mean I would have questions though, for all right,

712
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 2: nothing this, okay, let's get back to it. Let's get back.

713
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: I think the sponsors would really like it if we

714
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: brought in sex workers to do UFC previews.

715
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 2: They would like that a lot. Transitioning here to topic

716
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 2: number two, and we're talking about Robert Whittaker, he has

717
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 2: had an exemplary career, and again three different judges there

718
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 2: on Saturday, he could be winning this and we could

719
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 2: be talking about where he fits in in this title picture. Instead,

720
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 2: we've got four losses in seven fights, all of course

721
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 2: against top level competition, which is a big part of

722
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 2: our dr breaking through and we're going to find out

723
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 2: if he is title ready. Tough conversation to have, because

724
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 2: he damn near won it. But is it true to

725
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 2: say here, Luke that the living legend, the Reaper, Robert

726
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 2: Whitaker's best days are behind him. If so, what would

727
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 2: be the evidence for that? And what do you think

728
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 2: is left that should keep him in MMA or UFC

729
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 2: in general? While he still got it, But his repeated

730
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 2: times to get back to the top, the door continues

731
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 2: to get closed on.

732
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: I do think his best days are behind him. To

733
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 1: the point that we discussed earlier, he did not look

734
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: terrible to me at all. I know folks have said, ah,

735
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: he looks diminished in terms of his ability to take

736
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: a punch, but I don't know if he's ever really

737
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: had a great chin. He's had great resiliency, yes, which

738
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: is very different than the ability to just take a

739
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: shot and nothing happens to you. But I think a

740
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: couple of things are happening here. He is thirty four

741
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: years of age BC. This is the second time in

742
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: his career that he's lost back to back fights. The

743
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: first time was when he lost to Courtmuguee and WonderBoy,

744
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 1: which ultimately pushed him into middleweight. Those were back at

745
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: a time when he was at welterweight. But there's really

746
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: nowhere else for him him to go.

747
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 2: Well here, John Jones at light heavyweight to fulfill your

748
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 2: longtime fantasy.

749
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: I think the time on that one has expired. It

750
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 1: was a brilliant idea for its moment.

751
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 2: I mean, it helps when he's in there with our

752
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 2: dr who's a giant, but he looks really small in there.

753
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 2: On top of it, he's always been He's always just

754
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 2: been this.

755
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: He's been undersized. You look particularly undersized in this moment.

756
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: But the issue for me was that, yes, he doesn't

757
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 1: necessarily take a punch well, but he does have decent resiliency.

758
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 1: He looked to me like he was just kind of

759
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: out of ideas. He didn't really know how to overcome.

760
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: And this is a guy who during his peak had

761
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: the ability to diagnose what the problem was and then

762
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: effectuate a solution. He couldn't do that here. To me,

763
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,879
Speaker 1: whenever that happens, that means the game is passing you by.

764
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: That's always what that means. You can't if you can,

765
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: if you can't really figure out a way to get

766
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: around a problem. And he also didn't have the motor

767
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,280
Speaker 1: to do it. To be fair, now, he was getting

768
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: kneed up the gut consistently.

769
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,280
Speaker 2: I'm not saying he didn't undertrain to whatever I'm saying.

770
00:34:58,320 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 2: When we hit round four, he was kind of dune.

771
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 2: You kind of need the young legs in that extra

772
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 2: gear to pull yourself to a position where then you

773
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 2: could figure.

774
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: Out how to write. To the point, he might have

775
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 1: actually known what the solution was and then couldn't physically

776
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 1: labor his way into it. So either he couldn't diagnose

777
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: it and couldn't deliver, or he could but he couldn't

778
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 1: deliver it. But either way way, he's not the same

779
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 1: exactly right, it's half a dozen one way, it's six

780
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 1: the other.

781
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,320
Speaker 2: So like, but we love him, we don't want to

782
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 2: see him be a gate keeper, well even an elite gatekeeper.

783
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:27,439
Speaker 2: Which is kind of where he is right now.

784
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 1: Well, this is where he's headed. This is exactly where

785
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: he's headed now. I suppose b SE could he effort?

786
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: And I'm not recommending it. I'm not recommending it. I

787
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: don't want it. Is it possible that he entertains a

788
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: return to welterweight as a consequence.

789
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,399
Speaker 2: Wouldn't it feel like our great friend sugar Shot Evans

790
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 2: when he went down to middleweight. It would kind of

791
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 2: feel like that, like it's this desperate late move. I mean,

792
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 2: he's determined enough to pull it off, but the welterweight

793
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,760
Speaker 2: pool is even deeper.

794
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: Filled the show. I totally agree. And also I know

795
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: what folks might say. They'd say, oh, he's only thirty four,

796
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: he's the same age as RDR, but RDR clearly has

797
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 1: less miles on him. He's a newer entrant, he's a

798
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 1: newer problem to the division. Like the best work. We

799
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 1: talked about this with Max Holloway. Max Holloway's peak came

800
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,760
Speaker 1: at a time, but he's still I would argue, argue

801
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 1: doing his best work not achieving the same heights because

802
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: the game is different now. But he's better now. What

803
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: occur is not better now, No, I think it's a hard.

804
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 2: Hill returns and more damage on top of there if

805
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 2: he stays. I think like I'm speaking for a man's

806
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 2: life without knowing you know, his situation, but at his

807
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,240
Speaker 2: age and considering he's still got a pretty damn good amount.

808
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 2: But it we're seeing what happens when you meet the

809
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 2: very top of the division. Like him to take that

810
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 2: one to two years off. I'd like for him to

811
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 2: even publicly announce the retirement, but no, in the back

812
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 2: of his head, let me really let myself heal mentally physically,

813
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 2: and see do I want Is there a reason that

814
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 2: I want want one more run at this as of

815
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 2: right now? To just go back in line. It doesn't

816
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 2: he's see, he's too regal for that. In some way,

817
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 2: he's too good for that to have him fall into that.

818
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 2: But it also happens often, Luke, So what's let's hear

819
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 2: from him, then maybe we can kind of gauge where

820
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 2: he's at. This was him speaking after the loss about

821
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 2: the defeat a quote tweet here, I'm pretty butt hurt,

822
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 2: to be honest, that's interesting use of slaying there. He

823
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 2: did what he said he was going to do. I

824
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 2: thought I ticked all the boxes, but his pressure was

825
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 2: a lot. Yeah, it's kind of It's it's even though

826
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,240
Speaker 2: that was a really large opponent on a hot streak

827
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 2: who was determined and was awkward all that stuff, it's

828
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 2: still where we're at. I'd like to see this guy

829
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:29,879
Speaker 2: step away.

830
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 1: There are big fights left for him. I mean, this

831
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 1: is the problem we've.

832
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 2: Taken out of Sign of trilogy any day because I

833
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 2: thought he won the second one.

834
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 1: Okay, he didn't, but the reality, I mean, is there

835
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 1: much of an appetite for that?

836
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 2: Though?

837
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 1: No, wouldn't you rather see, for example, what's your level

838
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: of interest in Whittaker Strickland.

839
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,879
Speaker 2: I mean, I wouldn't hate it, But we're still having

840
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 2: the same conversation we just had.

841
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 1: Okay, but you have a case there where like Strickland's

842
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 1: gonna beat him up real bad. I mean, Strickland might win.

843
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 2: Are you doing the whole like, what are you gonna do?

844
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 2: Point fight me bit?

845
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 1: No, I'm saying like, you can give him big fights

846
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 1: where you're not risking him getting thrashed. But he could lose,

847
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: but he wouldn't necessarily get thrashed. And this at this age,

848
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 1: isn't that something that you would want to see.

849
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 2: You can get volume punch to complete the joke. Yeah,

850
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 2: I get it. I hear what you're saying. But does

851
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 2: it would a win put him back? Do you think

852
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 2: he's earned the sort of thing where he's as long

853
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 2: as he's active and can still be the guy like

854
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 2: Striclan who's coming down. It seems from the top that

855
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 2: he's still a phone call away to get a title

856
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 2: shot if needed.

857
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 1: No, I think that point passed.

858
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 2: Then why keep going? Is my question? Because that's not

859
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 2: a big enough fight where it's like, Okay, well you

860
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 2: got that lottery ticket left in your pocket. It's not

861
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 2: Connor Nate three, right, So it's not like something that

862
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 2: you say, well, maybe we can do this one more time.

863
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,399
Speaker 1: I don't know what kind of financial planning he's done.

864
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 1: I don't know what his plan is for after fighting.

865
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: I don't know what I don't know what any of

866
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: that looks like. If he has a decent plan in place,

867
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: I think now it's time to hit the parachute. Yeah,

868
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: because here's what happens after this. He'll win some big fights,

869
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 1: he'll make some decent money, but he's this right now.

870
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 1: And the Humsaut fight was kind of a prelude to this.

871
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 1: Now that was a pre existing kind of thing, so

872
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 1: people are going to dismiss it. What happens after this

873
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: is it's not automatic losses. That's not my point at all.

874
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 1: But it will be more losses than wins because they're

875
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: going to give him big names, and they're going to

876
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 1: give him up and coming names. They're going to try

877
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: and feed him to. And this is where the terrible

878
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: injuries start to happen in the octagon. This is right

879
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 1: here where somebody breaks a jaw, where an acl gets

880
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 1: torn and you lose the fight on top of it.

881
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: This is where the problems begin to emerge. So to

882
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 1: the point raised previously about.

883
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 2: Who he is, you're on the verge of being like

884
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 2: I think came Falescas would fuck you up, Like this

885
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 2: is one of those stuff of talks, right, No, I mean,

886
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 2: what are we doing?

887
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: Okay, we're doing skits some bits here.

888
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 2: You have that tone and that was like I was

889
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:52,399
Speaker 2: feeling the moment. It kind of reminded me of.

890
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: Well, here's who is again. These rankings will change the

891
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: here's who's ranked below him before incorporating Saturday's results. Six

892
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 1: is Kyle Bohala seven Cannoneer. Do you want to see

893
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: Whittaker cannon ear? I don't have much of an interest

894
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: in that.

895
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 2: I actually would see that again because Cannon nearly.

896
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: You have a heart on for cannon Ear always.

897
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 5: Did Cannoneer break his arm in their first fight?

898
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 2: Yes, Andrew and and badly hurt Whitaker around three but recovered.

899
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't have much of an interest in the remam,

900
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 1: but I'm good, I mean finished. Eight is de ledes

901
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: A nine, Hernandez ten, Brendan Allen eleven, Paulo Costa. We

902
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: already saw that one. Marvin Vttori were neared. De Ritter

903
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 1: obviously just beat him, and then U a bus Magna

904
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: madeoff and then Rollman Copulaf who fought like ship by

905
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:35,240
Speaker 1: the way at UC three eighteen.

906
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 2: Okay, so we just answered our question. The answer is

907
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 2: Shara bullet really really seriously, like if you want to

908
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 2: keep fighting, that's kind of the perfect That's where you're

909
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 2: at with That's where you're.

910
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: At with this.

911
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 2: We do have Whittaker's resume to pump up, and if

912
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 2: he did never fight again, I call been calling him

913
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 2: a living legend for years, a guy that only had

914
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 2: one rain and it wasn't that long. He showed top

915
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 2: level quality thout his entire career. Luke, I had played

916
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 2: this on Friday, but it looks like, let's look at

917
00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 2: it one more. These are the names that he shared

918
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 2: a cage with, didn't win them all. You certainly can

919
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 2: see the wonder Boy lost at well To.

920
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: I thought the very best that his generation had to offer.

921
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 2: Ten rounds with a prime dangerous l Ramero, ten rounds.

922
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: Ten that took miles off of his fucking.

923
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 2: And then that comeback run where he went through cannoneer

924
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 2: you know, and got hurt in that fight and wanted Vittori.

925
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 2: Is never an easy fight in terms of the durability there.

926
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 2: Fought brunts and fought Tavares, brought Jock Ray Till Gastolon,

927
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 2: paul A Costa the title level twice without a Sonia.

928
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 2: It's tough because I always assumed he would get back

929
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 2: and win it again.

930
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,240
Speaker 1: I always assume that, dude, once that title gets separated

931
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: from you, it is very very rare that you can

932
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 1: reconnect with it.

933
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 2: I mean, Juliana Pana is one story, right, I mean, seriously,

934
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 2: so is Cookie Monster as Barza. Like that's kind of

935
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 2: rare that that happens.

936
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 1: Okay, put you know what the fuck I'm no.

937
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 3: I'm not.

938
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 2: I'm not dunking on them. I'm just saying there's different

939
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 2: levels to this, but some great fighters just never get back.

940
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, in a competitive division, once you lose a reasonably

941
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: competitive anyway, not that middleweight is like the most competitive,

942
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: but you know, reasonably competitive once you lose the belt.

943
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: It's I mean, that's why even Izzy who got it

944
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,959
Speaker 1: back then lost it again very quickly. Right, it's just very,

945
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: very very Your reign at the top is short. Like

946
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: leprechauns man what it is?

947
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 2: Unforgiving sport of the most unforgivings and combat sports. This

948
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 2: one's really unforgiving. I mean boxing too, but boxing it's

949
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 2: like the long term damage. This is like the show.

950
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: I would say slap fighting is pretty unforgiving, but it's not.

951
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 1: No one cares about it, so it's different.

952
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,720
Speaker 2: No, actually, uh well no, where are they on now? YouTube?

953
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 2: They're down to YouTube? Bro, I could put my balls

954
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 2: on YouTube. What are they? What is slap down to

955
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 2: for a TV deal? Ts?

956
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I think it's on YouTube?

957
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 2: Truth social next. It'd be awesome. That'd be fantastic. Let's

958
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 2: go to topic number three Telegram. We're looking at the

959
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,280
Speaker 2: co main event on Saturday's card, which saw former bandamweight

960
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 2: champion Pyotr Jan restore that image. A tough fight at

961
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,760
Speaker 2: times against a thirty five year old but streaking Marcus

962
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 2: mcg just from the standpoint that McGee did land a

963
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 2: few big shots. But this is three straight wins here

964
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 2: for Jan, who is very much at age thirty two,

965
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 2: still looking like a dangerous out for any one thirty

966
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 2: five or with the three in the row, though, he's

967
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 2: got to be in consensus discussion to be next in

968
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 2: line for the winner of Corey Sanhagan's title shot against

969
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 2: Marob de vos Phili coming up right around the corner.

970
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 2: So that said, Luke, is there any reason to think

971
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 2: a fight with either Morob and Jan lost the first

972
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 2: time or Cory and he remember Yan beat san Haagen

973
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 2: in their meeting would look any different? So if he

974
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 2: caught the winner of this title fight to be a

975
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 2: rematch for him either way? Is how much do you

976
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 2: think has changed since the first time he fought those guys?

977
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 1: Well, okay, I don't I don't know if anyone will

978
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 1: agree with me.

979
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 2: On this. I mean, once I get my opinion on.

980
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,399
Speaker 1: I'd actually love to hear what Long Island Luke has

981
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: to say, because I think he probably represents a different demo.

982
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 2: On this one, the Long Island demo, the Long Island.

983
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 1: Demo, which is, you know, barely literate, but we love

984
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 1: them just the same. I see you, I see you.

985
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:04,720
Speaker 2: H okay.

986
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 1: He looked great against Marcus McGhee. There were a lot

987
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: of questions about whether that was a suitable opponent for him,

988
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: and I thought McGhee had done some things to give

989
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:15,240
Speaker 1: himself a bit of a boost and profile.

990
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 2: Stay busy fight, he check on McGee.

991
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 1: Stay busy, that's right, and you know it the kind

992
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,439
Speaker 1: of thing where if you're slipping at all, McGee would

993
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: notice it. But Jon looked fantastic. For the most part,

994
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 1: he looked pretty great. Yon has a weird cult following

995
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: where his fans really love the way that he fights,

996
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: and by virtue of that overestimate how good he is.

997
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 2: And they also love the way he talks. Seriously, he

998
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 2: gives cold.

999
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: He gives great one landers. Let me explain what I

1000
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: mean though, once again, how much of MMA just kind

1001
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: of blends together where everyone is learning the same skills

1002
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 1: and fighting with the same meta and doing all the

1003
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:55,399
Speaker 1: same things. It happens quite regularly, but in this particular case,

1004
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 1: Yon has a very unique kind or not very but

1005
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,879
Speaker 1: a reasonably unique kind of style obc. Where he puts

1006
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: interesting combinations and he has throws and trips and you know,

1007
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: he just that one I think he hit like an

1008
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: Osodo Gary and then goes right into that Uh no,

1009
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 1: he hit the Yes, he hit the I think it

1010
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: was Nosda Gary and then goes right into the Kemora

1011
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 1: on Marcus McGee. He's got this very fun way of

1012
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,839
Speaker 1: doing that. But he's writing three decisions in a row.

1013
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: McGee is a guy who you would have imagined if

1014
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 1: you were if you believe that Yan is as good

1015
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 1: as you as his cult would tell you that he is,

1016
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 1: probably should have finished him. I think McGee's a good opponent.

1017
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:33,959
Speaker 1: Let me explain this, okay, So what is interesting about

1018
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: Yan is he fights in a very i should say

1019
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: again relatively speaking, a unique kind of way, and he

1020
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 1: has put together enough quality wins where to me, no brainer,

1021
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 1: he gets the title shot like of course, of course,

1022
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: of course, But your question was do we expect it

1023
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: to be different. I do not expect to fight against

1024
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: Morob to be effectively different. I would expect Morob scored

1025
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 1: fifty takedown She's attempted fifty takedowns on him forty nine

1026
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 1: forty nine to be to be specific. Right, So even

1027
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 1: if you have that right, let's just say twenty four, right,

1028
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: because you can't do twenty four and a half. But

1029
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: twenty four he's probably still gonna win. Also, Morob has

1030
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 1: gotten better. The more interesting fight to me is not

1031
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: that the more interesting fight is Yan versus Sandhagen two,

1032
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: because sand Hagen actually.

1033
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 2: Has gotten a lot better. I feel like Yon too,

1034
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 2: though I think you're okay.

1035
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: I don't think Joan's gotten effectively better.

1036
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not gonna argue with the fact that because

1037
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 2: Morob is so unique and he's on such a hot run,

1038
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 2: that it might look the same. I'll over again, it might.

1039
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 2: I'm seeing a more calculated Yon without sacrificing the power,

1040
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 2: the well roundedness, the explosion.

1041
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:49,359
Speaker 1: That's why he's going to decisions all the time.

1042
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 2: Now, I know that, But isn't that a better isn't

1043
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 2: that a better starting point to deal with Morob's spanning?

1044
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: That's good enough to get wins to a title shot.

1045
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: It's not good enough to put you over the hump.

1046
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 1: The more calculated way he's fighting is the thing that

1047
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 1: is securing his title shot.

1048
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 2: It might also be the thing that catches Morob coming

1049
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 2: in and disciplines. I don't think so. I would be

1050
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 2: very surprised. I mean, I think he's got a better

1051
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 2: chance of beating Sandagan, not just because he beat him already,

1052
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 2: but I guess a style matchup in which his consistency

1053
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 2: is well.

1054
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 1: To be clear, I would favor him in the Sanhagan fight,

1055
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: but I'm saying Sanagan has made up enough ground now

1056
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,280
Speaker 1: where I'm like, Okay, are.

1057
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 2: You feeling yell after this fight? Because I'm feeling him.

1058
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: To get it. And then the stipulation is there's not

1059
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: a question a long on Luke that he deserved the

1060
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 1: title shot like that much is without debate. The question

1061
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: is do you think you'd get a reasonably different fight

1062
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 1: either in the Sanhagan case or in the Morob case.

1063
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 5: I think you nail that, Luke.

1064
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 4: I don't see it going any different with Morob, but

1065
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 4: I could see it going different with Sanhagen.

1066
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 5: I could see it being a little closer. This time around. Also,

1067
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 5: I tried to just google it quick. Am I making

1068
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 5: this up? Didn't Sandhagen like haear is ACL or mcl.

1069
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 4: Or something against He did get injured, yes, I can't

1070
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 4: remember from thinking that or the Dilla show fight they.

1071
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 1: Were Oh no, no, no, maybe it was the well

1072
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:04,919
Speaker 1: because Delashau got injured in that fight too.

1073
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 4: No, that might be what I'm thinking of getting injured.

1074
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,879
Speaker 4: Either way, I don't see them really going any different.

1075
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 2: I still see the ending being the same by decision,

1076
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 2: but I see Yon being more dangerous and making it

1077
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 2: a different fight. In the end, it's still the same thing.

1078
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 2: But I'm not how can.

1079
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: You be more reserved and more dangerous.

1080
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 2: Because you're you're being more efficient at choosing the right moments.

1081
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 1: To be dangerous, you're also being more I feel like

1082
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 1: you're also spending less in terms of offensive output.

1083
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 2: Right, But how can you to stay off he doesn't

1084
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 2: want to be on his back as much as the

1085
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 2: first fight. To stay off of it, you've got to

1086
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 2: be more off the back foot and more in a

1087
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 2: position to stop that.

1088
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 1: I mean, let me just be clear. The evidence is in.

1089
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: You are not going to beat morob Holstering offense not

1090
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: gonna fucking work. There's not a bantamweight alive. Corey stan

1091
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 1: Haagen in Cline.

1092
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 2: Okay, But but the more aggressive Yan is, the easier

1093
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 2: it is from Rob to take him down.

1094
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,760
Speaker 1: True, but this is the problem with Morob. The issue

1095
00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 1: with Morob is that you kind of have to throw

1096
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say to the wind. But Corey Sanhagan to me,

1097
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: I'm picking Morob to Until Morob gets beat, I'm not.

1098
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 2: Picking him with him, I'm still picking him to beat up.

1099
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 1: So let me just say this, until Marob gets beat,

1100
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:13,439
Speaker 1: I'm not picking against him. However, Sandagan has said something

1101
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: I think is exactly correct in the lead up to

1102
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 1: this fight, which is you're not gonna fucking beat this

1103
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 1: guy by decision. They have to knock him out. You

1104
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 1: have to submit him. Dude, How is he gonna make

1105
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: it a boxing match? If Morob's not gonna let him.

1106
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 2: He won't be on his back as much. You'll see

1107
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 2: a different Yannas what I'm saying, it's not gonna be

1108
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 2: enough to win, but I'm saying that you're gonna see

1109
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 2: him give himself a much better chance than the first fight.

1110
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 1: I think he'll make it where that's maturity. He's not

1111
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: gonna get as run over as a consequence, but he's

1112
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 1: also not gonna have as much high as a consequence

1113
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 1: because he'll be so readide with those Russians.

1114
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 2: I'm gonna side with them on here.

1115
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 1: He's real, Sanhagen, san Hagen again, I'm not picking against

1116
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 1: Morob until he loses. But Sandhagan's approach of I'm just

1117
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 1: gonna go for the kill on this guy, I think

1118
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:55,879
Speaker 1: actually is gonna take you. The chance that that gives

1119
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 1: you a win is higher than I'm gonna be careful

1120
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 1: against Morob. Gonna be careful route to a unanimous decision loss.

1121
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 2: And that's what's gonna happen. Everyone is on their way

1122
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 2: to decision loss. Let's see Yan react to the congratulary

1123
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 2: treat tweets. That was a word from Morob, who wrote

1124
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 2: great fight at peioder Yan Pyotr. Congratulations, thanks Morob, said

1125
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,760
Speaker 2: Yan in response, good luck in your next fight. Hopefully

1126
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 2: it's me and you for the belt after I'm into that.

1127
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 2: Where where's Umar fitting into this? Who's he?

1128
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 3: So?

1129
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: Umar has a fight coming up against too? They announced

1130
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 1: it yesterday, long Islan Luke.

1131
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 2: Who was it?

1132
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, is any is any fighting Mario Bautista?

1133
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 3: Did?

1134
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 2: Did Umar turned down a fight with Yan? Correct for

1135
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 2: this past fight? It should have been Umar, but he

1136
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:39,799
Speaker 2: was hurt. He was hurt.

1137
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 1: As my understanding, I believe that they said he's I

1138
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 1: believe I saw reports that saying he was fighting Mario

1139
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 1: Bautista because I had someone send it to me, being like,

1140
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,240
Speaker 1: finally Umar is gonna beat this bump. People hate Mario Bautista.

1141
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 2: I don't what would you have?

1142
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 4: I got nothing, but uh, I'm trying to put make

1143
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 4: that apology right now to see if he has.

1144
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 2: A rumored bat Can you play the tape here of

1145
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 2: Pyotr agreeing with me that the Morab rematch will be there?

1146
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 6: Do you have a preference on who you would rather

1147
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 6: win between Rob and Corey?

1148
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 3: Obviously you have a win over Corey and you'd like

1149
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 3: to avenge the loss.

1150
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 8: To Mob I Gotshini. Yeah, obviously I prefer to rematch

1151
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 8: me up, you know, to see how I'll do against

1152
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 8: him when I'm healthy. But Corey is also a great fighter,

1153
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 8: interesting fighter, had a great fight with him, and.

1154
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 1: I believe they're going to have a good fight.

1155
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 8: But I just believes pressure and I'm gonna be a

1156
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 8: key factor. You know, at some point Corey is gonna fade.

1157
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 2: You're now close again to a title shot. If not

1158
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 2: your next what would you do different? Let's say Morob

1159
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 2: is the next sport?

1160
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:45,720
Speaker 8: Yeah, first of all, I want to show up healthy

1161
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 8: and now I understand that how I have to digest

1162
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 8: my fight came and prepare better.

1163
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 2: For me up. You know, now, now I know what

1164
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 2: to expect from him. I'm telling you, Luke, I'm telling

1165
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 2: you so is Pyotre. Yeah, he gotta have that first

1166
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 2: fight you're going to see in this remat. It's gonna

1167
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 2: be a little bit different. It's still gonna lose. So

1168
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 2: I'm not putting that much out into the world off

1169
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 2: like this.

1170
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 1: You know what, then, what is the point of like

1171
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 1: being I don't understand the nature of your argument. Oh,

1172
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: it'll be different and he'll still lose. Well, who gives

1173
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:14,439
Speaker 1: a fuck?

1174
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 2: Well people that care about m No, No, I don't believe.

1175
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:18,320
Speaker 2: I don't believe that.

1176
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 1: I think you should have if you're going to argue that,

1177
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 1: they're like you have enthusiasm.

1178
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be a great fight, that's going

1179
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 2: to be close. But I think Morob just finds a

1180
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 2: way out working in the end.

1181
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: I don't I don't understand how you can threaten Morob

1182
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,280
Speaker 1: w holsterring offense. I just don't understand that argument.

1183
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 2: But you gotta win three rounds against So that's the doing.

1184
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 1: What motherfucker doing what First, You've got to put it

1185
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 1: on Hairst.

1186
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:42,919
Speaker 2: Thing you have to do is dissuade him for taking

1187
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 2: you down easily. So that's the first thing you have

1188
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 2: to do. I think you also slow the pace down

1189
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,760
Speaker 2: and allow the offensive skirmishes to happen when it's an

1190
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 2: advantageous position.

1191
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 1: For you that he's going to disaster.

1192
00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:00,040
Speaker 2: It changes. If you can give Morob caution on shooting

1193
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 2: at will, then it changes. You have to do that.

1194
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 1: First, and who has done who has done that whole.

1195
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 2: Story Now, I'm saying, but now you got yan say

1196
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 2: but he was hurt the first fight. I know everyone's hurt,

1197
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 2: But I'm saying, like, now he's looking at as. I

1198
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 2: got to come in with a different plan, different mindset.

1199
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 2: You're going to get a tougher challenge and you got

1200
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 2: the first fight. That's basically what I'm saying.

1201
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 1: I think you might get a somewhat closer fight. I

1202
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 1: don't think you actually get a tougher challenge. You're telling

1203
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 1: me that Yan can do less and get more, and

1204
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 1: I simply don't fucking believe that. Not against Morob, maybe

1205
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 1: against other guys, not against Mob, no chance.

1206
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 2: Okay, we'll see when they when they fight. I mean,

1207
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 2: things have to happen first.

1208
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 1: And also like what if he comes out and fights

1209
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,879
Speaker 1: balls out, in which case different story. But I'm under

1210
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 1: under the premise of what you're saying.

1211
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:48,359
Speaker 2: All right, the crowd on Saturday in Abu Dabu, they

1212
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 2: started filing out, which is kind of becoming a trend

1213
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 2: on foreign markets. We flashed back, of course to Ozer

1214
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 2: by Jean Baku, where they they just walked out like

1215
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:01,360
Speaker 2: hell during that main event. David Shaw, the North America

1216
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 2: or the international mouthpiece of the UFC, who ever really

1217
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 2: has answers to things, was sort of like Dana promoted

1218
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:11,879
Speaker 2: the shit out of this. It was matched properly. Blah

1219
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 2: blah blah. They're not going to change anything, is what

1220
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 2: he's saying. What do you make of, though, of the

1221
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 2: of the crowd being so kind of regional centered, right,

1222
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 2: like they want the fights, they want their certain fighters,

1223
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 2: or are they just not have interest in the matchup

1224
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 2: in this manner.

1225
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I just think it's like, dude, the way,

1226
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 1: clearly the way the UFC puts their business together works

1227
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:34,280
Speaker 1: for their interest. There's really not a lot of argument

1228
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 1: against that. But it's the if you're having guys, or

1229
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 1: I should say, if you're having multiple cities where the

1230
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,720
Speaker 1: people are filing out before the event is concluded, despite

1231
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 1: the fact that like that main event was great and

1232
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 1: it was the two biggest names on the card, right,

1233
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess you could say, yan, maybe it

1234
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 1: was a bit I mean not even really that, But.

1235
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 2: Is the answer to your question the same thing of

1236
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 2: why would only thirty five hundred people show up to

1237
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 2: Canelo fighting in Saudi?

1238
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just it's just also like the reality is

1239
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 1: if you're going to construct your business in the way

1240
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:05,359
Speaker 1: that they are constructing it, where they're going to these

1241
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 1: foreign governments for money, and then they're putting these fights

1242
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 1: in places that I wouldn't.

1243
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 2: Be like, they're not HotBits, they're not HotBits.

1244
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:14,359
Speaker 1: And also like more to the point, if you were

1245
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,800
Speaker 1: really trying to maximize a hot audience, where would you

1246
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 1: take that fight? You take it to Australia, you take

1247
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:20,879
Speaker 1: it to the Netherlands right period, you're opposons, you could

1248
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 1: go but to those places and they're not doing that,

1249
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 1: and so there's just not as much audience investment as

1250
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 1: a consequence.

1251
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 2: For those reasons.

1252
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 1: I think the UFC is probably like, well, we still

1253
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 1: made a good fight, which they did, and if that happens,

1254
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 1: it happens. It's just a little weird that's happening. Like

1255
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 1: the Baku one was different to me because I did

1256
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 1: that one air on linear TV?

1257
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 2: Or was that strictly I think it did air.

1258
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 1: On linear TV rights, So like they're putting fights on ABC,

1259
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 1: you know, on network television where the audience is filing out,

1260
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I don't quite understand the value of

1261
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:53,959
Speaker 1: that part.

1262
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,760
Speaker 2: Well, they're prioritizing the site fee obviously that they're getting

1263
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 2: and not.

1264
00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 1: I get it. It's the way they organize their business.

1265
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 1: But like there's there's leak in the system, and one

1266
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 1: of the leaks is the audience is like on TV,

1267
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 1: but on in attendance, we don't give a fuck about

1268
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 1: your main events, so.

1269
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 2: They still cashing them checks. What'd you make of middleweight

1270
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 2: shar bullet bouncing back from the loss to MVP that

1271
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 2: stopped his string, getting a thirty to twenty seven unanimous

1272
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 2: across the board decision over a toughest shit Mark Andre Barrio,

1273
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,839
Speaker 2: but also like getting his nose popped and you knew

1274
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 2: that dude was in surgery at the end. In terms

1275
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:27,799
Speaker 2: of the scoring, he dominated. He also got fucked up

1276
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:28,879
Speaker 2: at Churtin points in that FCE.

1277
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 1: Once again, the pirate gimmick is the lamest gimmick in

1278
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 1: all of fights. R Maybe welcome to our medieval times.

1279
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 1: I'm putting two together here. It's just, I mean, there's

1280
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 1: nothing cool about a pirate that it never has been,

1281
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 1: never will.

1282
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 2: Come on when Johnny Depp re reinvigorated pirratism, You've got.

1283
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 1: To can I tell you, I've never seen a single

1284
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 1: Pirates of the Caribbean.

1285
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:49,760
Speaker 2: It doesn't surprise me you would make a hardened opinion

1286
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 2: on something.

1287
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 1: Who's the coolest pirate in history? The guy who took

1288
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,879
Speaker 1: Tom Hanks's fucking thing. I'm the captain now, that motherfucker.

1289
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 1: I like that guy that goes all right, that was

1290
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 1: pretty hard anyway, what I'm trying to make it.

1291
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 2: Bobby Bonilla and Barry Bonds pretty good. Okay, where's the

1292
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 2: horn asshole one.

1293
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 5: Having a separate conversation.

1294
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 2: It's not his fault. He was bored before nineteen ninety eight.

1295
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 1: I guess the point I would say is there's another

1296
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 1: one of these guys where there's a lot of hype

1297
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 1: around charl Bullet, but.

1298
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 2: Like and he's clearly good. He's clearly good.

1299
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 1: He's not great and this is this is this is

1300
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 1: the gap that you're noticing where he's not able to

1301
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 1: get over the hump.

1302
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 2: He can still win.

1303
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 1: It can be good guys, but he's not like he's

1304
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 1: like Hamzad just fucking tearing through the division.

1305
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 2: He's not that or not like light heavyweight bugged in

1306
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 2: Guskov at least on Saturday. Well, you know what in

1307
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 2: that first round demolition of Nikita Krilov forty sorry, in

1308
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 2: the final minute of the first round, eight brutal finished.

1309
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 1: I mean Krilov just throwing naked kicks constantly and then

1310
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 1: he gets timed with one. You know, I don't know

1311
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 1: what to say, like, you know.

1312
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 2: But this is this for real? Is this who he is?

1313
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 1: I say, I'll say this, you know what, I'll pair it?

1314
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 2: What? Uh? What? What?

1315
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 1: Online analyst Jack Slack had to say, he's not good,

1316
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 1: but he's definitely light heavyweight good. And that's good enough

1317
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 1: for now.

1318
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 2: Four straight victories all by stoppage. Yeah, not against killers,

1319
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 2: but a Ryan Span a Kree Love. That doesn't suck. Listen.

1320
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:17,919
Speaker 1: He's beaten the guys they put in front of him,

1321
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 1: and you can't say it hasn't been a little bit

1322
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:19,919
Speaker 1: of fun.

1323
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 2: He got subbed by no time Ozdemir in his last defeat.

1324
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 2: Good though, had a four fight win streak before that.

1325
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 2: So he's got to break through that.

1326
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, he's got to break through the next ceiling.

1327
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 1: But you know, theirs good. That's not that's not the

1328
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 1: the worst laws ever.

1329
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 2: All Right. We're getting a lot of talk about the

1330
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 2: officiating in the second fight of the evening on the prelimbs,

1331
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 2: the featherweight bout between Steve Nuinn and Mohammed Yah Yah

1332
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 2: Luke Jeff referee Jason Herzog, who yes, broke the rib

1333
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 2: of Roschmarkozy at that time with that right referee referee

1334
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 2: symposium thing. Yeah, okay, should he have stopped that fight earlier? Yeah?

1335
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 1: He sure was on fire over this, Yeah he should have.

1336
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 1: I really hated that.

1337
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 2: What are we doing here? I mean, what are we doing?

1338
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 1: And this is to say nothing of like the trauma

1339
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 1: that his brain took. People were like, oh, should there

1340
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 1: be like a knockdown rule. No, there shouldn't be a

1341
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 1: knockdown rule because I can imagine getting clipped and then

1342
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 1: losing your balance, not like from like oh my head hurts,

1343
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 1: but from the map being slippery or something like that.

1344
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1345
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 1: We don't need a formal knockdown rule.

1346
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 2: Bute.

1347
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 1: By the fourth one, I was like, dude, what the

1348
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 1: fuck are we doing?

1349
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 2: There?

1350
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 1: Seven knockdowns in this six in the first round, I believe,

1351
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 1: and then one in the second round.

1352
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 2: After he had that alien grow on his eye. They

1353
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 2: kept it herzog let it go, Let it go, Let

1354
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 2: it go.

1355
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 1: And then he did rock Steve Win, which people are like, oh,

1356
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:34,919
Speaker 1: that's it's great. It's sort of the interesting narrative there.

1357
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 1: But dude, the amount of damage you take under repeated

1358
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 1: knockdowns like that also like the kind of thing that

1359
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 1: that signals is your defensive unpreparedness for the task at hand. Yes,

1360
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 1: that should have been stopped inside the first round.

1361
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:50,440
Speaker 2: I hated that.

1362
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 1: Lack of a stoppage and I've been very We've been

1363
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 1: critical of Jason Herzog more recently than we have in

1364
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 1: a very long time. Is that my imagination. It feels

1365
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 1: like he's come up on you know that for example,

1366
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 1: like in Henry Sujudo's about with the with the ipokes

1367
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 1: and how he handled that in this case. And I

1368
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 1: think it's been some other ones recently. Herzog has for

1369
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 1: a very long time been one of my favorite referees.

1370
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 1: It feels like in the last year or so, he's

1371
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 1: made a series of decisions or lack of decisions that

1372
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 1: have made me I just love it.

1373
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 2: I didn't love it. Even Herb has been like that lately.

1374
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 2: You think that's when we going on longer, a lot longer.

1375
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 2: He declined.

1376
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 1: Herb is not incapable of making good decisions. He still

1377
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 1: has stoppages where I'm like, that's a great call, but

1378
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 1: they're just inconsistent.

1379
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 2: Who is the best right now? Mark Goddard or that

1380
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 2: dude that took the point away in that fight?

1381
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 1: Mark Goddard's pretty good? Oh who was good in the

1382
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 1: Who was the Tabitha Ricci? And uh it was it?

1383
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 1: Dan Movahetti.

1384
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 2: Yes, he's been climbing.

1385
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 1: Dan Ovahetti broke them up when that position stalled, I

1386
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 1: think in the first round, and I was like, thank you,

1387
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 1: Dan Movahetti.

1388
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 2: You were the Leo Leonardo DiCaprio meme. That's what. Yeah,

1389
01:00:58,360 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 2: that guy.

1390
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 1: I was like, thank you for fucking doing that.

1391
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 2: So can we give props to forty one year old

1392
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 2: welterweight Muslim Salikov, who had his third straight win, his

1393
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 2: second by stoppage, and Islam was going, wow, I mean, look,

1394
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 2: we're doing a live show here. I mean it's you know,

1395
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 2: is sorry, Yeah, you're you're banging and tinging over there.

1396
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 2: I mean, just be like my mom just turned the volume,

1397
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 2: the ringer volume.

1398
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 1: I've I've often said if your phone audibly rings, you

1399
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 1: deserve to be defenestrated. Yes, out of a.

1400
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 2: It was kind of it was powerful was against Carlos Leal.

1401
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 2: It was in the first round. I know, this guy

1402
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 2: isn't gonna be fighting for a title next to welterway,

1403
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 2: but he looked like a killer.

1404
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 1: In this dude, carl l He's got another one of

1405
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 1: these guys, got like a slightly weird cult following him

1406
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 1: because he did get hosed in his last fight against

1407
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 1: Renette fort For Krittonov. But dude, I want you to

1408
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 1: pay attention the shot that Muslim Salakov stops him with

1409
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 1: when he comes down then goes over the top is

1410
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 1: real nice. However, I make this point all the time

1411
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 1: because I see it on tape study and it drives

1412
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 1: me fucking crazy. Pay attention to how many MMA fighters,

1413
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 1: particularly in the UFC, get stopped as they are directly

1414
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 1: squarely in front of their opponent. Being square with your

1415
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 1: opponent isn't always bad. In fact, sometimes it can be necessary. Sure,

1416
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 1: But if you're starting bladed and then you're winging shots,

1417
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 1: and then you're bringing your back foot to come and

1418
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:18,439
Speaker 1: now face your opponent.

1419
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 2: As David Benavitez, you can't do.

1420
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 1: That unless your David motherfucking Benavidez.

1421
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 2: Stop fucking doing that.

1422
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 1: They so many fight and they get fucking hammered for

1423
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 1: it by anybody with a competent trucking game. Muslim salakoff

1424
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 1: in his forties, but he a target of opportunity, he'll

1425
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 1: take it. Yeah, Oh my god, I hated that fucking

1426
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 1: performance of carls Leo.

1427
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 2: And our featured prelim. In his first fight at bantamweight,

1428
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 2: Bryce Mitchell got the win in a very hard fought

1429
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 2: grappling match against sid nermalga Metov, in which Bryce would

1430
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 2: ultimately say afterwards was the hardest fight of his career.

1431
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 2: Let's let's hear Bryce's postfight comments.

1432
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, dude, it was just really really hard fight, and

1433
01:02:57,160 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 6: I wish it would have been more exciting for the fans,

1434
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 6: but I was just fighting for my life. Like I

1435
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 6: really was praying during a fight, like Jesus, just keep

1436
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 6: me alive, because the fight felt like death. I remember

1437
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 6: fighting for air. I remember getting hit and seeing lights,

1438
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 6: and I remember like coaches telling me twain rounds like

1439
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 6: you can do this, you can do this, just like

1440
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:19,480
Speaker 6: dig and dude, it was a really really hard fight.

1441
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 6: And if you ever get in one of those, I

1442
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 6: just recommend you pray because that's literally what I was doing.

1443
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 6: I mean, I wasn't figuratively. I was literally praying Jesus,

1444
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 6: please just keep me alive. And I was fighting with

1445
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:35,440
Speaker 6: all my strength, and like afterwards, I was like overheated,

1446
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 6: like I could barely move.

1447
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 2: I was so hot it was like hard to breathe.

1448
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 2: After the fight, he also gave a post fight speech

1449
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 2: in the cage that was like a lot of love,

1450
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 2: a lot of love.

1451
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 1: But then he referred to the Synagogue of Satan that

1452
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 1: was coming after him.

1453
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 2: So he also said Arab Arabic. Remember he spoke Arabic

1454
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 2: to the Russian reporter thinking he was Muslim. Because of

1455
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 2: his actions, Yeah.

1456
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 1: I don't need to like him as a person, which

1457
01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 1: I don't.

1458
01:03:57,720 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 2: But does he look like a player at bandam weight,

1459
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 2: because that's not He didn't look amazing, but he was gritty.

1460
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 1: Okay, so I'll give him credit. It was definitely a

1461
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 1: gritty performance, no question about it. That was a tough

1462
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:11,640
Speaker 1: ass fight, but never gonna made off have some fight

1463
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 1: IQ issues, especially as the fight goes long. So I'll

1464
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:19,800
Speaker 1: say this, he definitely grinded it out. He definitely did

1465
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 1: what he needed to do to get the win, and

1466
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 1: it was.

1467
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:23,600
Speaker 2: Tough and he was tank held up in a new way.

1468
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 1: I will respect that. But I didn't see anybody who

1469
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:27,440
Speaker 1: was going to make a run at bandam weight. I

1470
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:28,479
Speaker 1: can tell you that that's fair.

1471
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 2: That's fair women's strawweight activity. Tabatha Ricchie getting the stoppage,

1472
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 2: hitting Amanda Heboss and an elbow directly in the eye,

1473
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 2: reaggravating a former injury, breaking her damn face. Yeah, she

1474
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 2: was in the hospital afterwards. Riccie. She got close to

1475
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 2: the top level, but didn't seem like she had finishing ability,

1476
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 2: didn't seem like she brought enough danger. It was the

1477
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 2: perfect shot at the perfect time. But could you see

1478
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 2: her climbing now at one one five after this?

1479
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 1: Well, if she can keep doing that, I mean, I

1480
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 1: don't know if I can say one performance gets us there.

1481
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 1: But that was a really nice Okay.

1482
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 2: She was more aggressive too, she was pushing the clinch.

1483
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 1: And so this is this is my issue with women's

1484
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 1: MA more broadly, which is that they just don't have

1485
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 1: enough offensive capability. And then her coach told her about

1486
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 1: that elbow which it started at this angle and then

1487
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 1: finished with this angle, which was fucking nice. Man, that

1488
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 1: was really really nice. This is my issue with some

1489
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 1: of the with the women's the state of women's MMA,

1490
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 1: which is that there's just not enough skill development. So

1491
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 1: if she can continue to build on that and do more,

1492
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be like elbows against the cage.

1493
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 1: But I think she's got something going here. I just

1494
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 1: want to make a point. I've said this a million times.

1495
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 1: Takedown defence is one part. If you're getting pressed against

1496
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 1: the fence, literally stopping the takedown. But I cannot overstate

1497
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 1: how critical it is, and I've been saying this for years.

1498
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 1: At this point, you must have the skills to extricate

1499
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 1: yourself and get your back off the fence. And I

1500
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 1: understand Ricci was pressing hard and had the head position,

1501
01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:54,040
Speaker 1: had the underhook many times. I get it not an answer,

1502
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 1: and look at the consequence of the result. She's able

1503
01:05:56,400 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 1: to whip up that elbow and then obviously score the stop.

1504
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:04,560
Speaker 1: Not being able to get yourself off the fence, especially

1505
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 1: against a non championship level fighter inexcusable in UFC in

1506
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, inexcusable.

1507
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:12,760
Speaker 2: You must be able to do it. Even though this

1508
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 2: is the better wait for Hebas. She does find a way.

1509
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 2: She looked you look at it at times, but she

1510
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 2: does a way to have too many holes defensively, what

1511
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 2: opens up.

1512
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 1: Opportunity she had that she had the haragoshi she threw

1513
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 1: at Landa that was nice, but she couldn't do a

1514
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 1: lot with it, right, Yeah, So she gets this amazing

1515
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 1: throw and then Ricci just kind of uses the fence

1516
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:32,640
Speaker 1: to get back to her feet. Ricchi put things together

1517
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:35,320
Speaker 1: here to answer the question. Let's see if she can

1518
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:36,959
Speaker 1: keep putting things together.

1519
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, who did she come up above water and lose

1520
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 2: to that? And that loss that stopped her when it

1521
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:44,760
Speaker 2: was Jan Shannon by decision that stopped a.

1522
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:46,680
Speaker 1: U you know in fairness is real good and she.

1523
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 2: Dropped a split decision previously loopy Godina's. But she's be

1524
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 2: pretty decent competition in between. Now she's gonna get a

1525
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:55,080
Speaker 2: step up for sure after this. The curtain drinker of

1526
01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:59,120
Speaker 2: the night so a former one championship fighter, And is

1527
01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 2: it my fair say jiu jitsu legend or just a

1528
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:09,560
Speaker 2: cop practition. He's a legend. Marcus went in there against

1529
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:12,840
Speaker 2: the it means fat cheeks, the hanging love pouch of

1530
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:16,360
Speaker 2: Mark Martin Boudet who had fat cheeks on the I mean,

1531
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 2: who am I to judge? You got the win, but

1532
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:21,760
Speaker 2: gas for being that jag. He had a couple of

1533
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 2: good moments on the ground. But it's striking.

1534
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:26,200
Speaker 1: Blows my mind. Is like, dude, if you were watching

1535
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 1: jiu jitsu in the twenty tens and you watch the

1536
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:35,000
Speaker 1: wars between Busha and Judolpho Vieira, and then someone would

1537
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 1: have told you, hey, both of these guys are gonna

1538
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:39,320
Speaker 1: end up in the UFC, you'd have been like, holy fuck, yes,

1539
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:41,880
Speaker 1: and then they both got there and you're like, damn,

1540
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:44,040
Speaker 1: this ain't shit, Like this is not at all what

1541
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 1: I was hoping for. I know Boushetia had a decent

1542
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 1: win against a mere al Bosi, but that win against

1543
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 1: Ruggrug really to me, poortends what you're what you've got.

1544
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:54,320
Speaker 2: With this guy.

1545
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 1: And dude, here's the part that drives me nuts. If

1546
01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:01,160
Speaker 1: you watch Bouchetia's jiu jitsu career, he wasn't He was

1547
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 1: very skilled, I want to be clear, like he was

1548
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 1: very technical. Obviously, if you're gonna win multiple titles, win

1549
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 1: and without the ge, you're very technical. But let me

1550
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:10,600
Speaker 1: be honest about something. B See, he won a lot

1551
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:13,600
Speaker 1: of those two that I had this conversation with a

1552
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:15,959
Speaker 1: high level black belt because he was such a fucking

1553
01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:19,599
Speaker 1: dynamic athlete. Okay, he had a clear athletic advantage over

1554
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:23,240
Speaker 1: these guys. Dude, he did. He look more athletic to

1555
01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:24,479
Speaker 1: you than Martin.

1556
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:27,960
Speaker 2: He's pretty damn built, but he gassed.

1557
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 1: But he didn't like dude, he would move like a

1558
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:32,360
Speaker 1: fucking anther yea in jiu jitsu on the feet, He's

1559
01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:33,799
Speaker 1: a little robotic on the ground.

1560
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:34,639
Speaker 2: He didn't look that great.

1561
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:36,800
Speaker 1: He fell off the back of Buddai one time, Yeah,

1562
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 1: because he got a little high. I was like, dude,

1563
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:39,120
Speaker 1: he could have.

1564
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:41,840
Speaker 2: Been a showcase entrance fight for him and instead it

1565
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:44,559
Speaker 2: completely he looked. Did it completely expose him? Or was

1566
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:47,439
Speaker 2: this like go back to get in better shape and

1567
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:48,880
Speaker 2: then we'll see it. It wasn't like.

1568
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 1: This one fight exposed him. What wasn't like the Bo

1569
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 1: Nickel RDR thing. However, in concert with other lackluster performances

1570
01:08:56,120 --> 01:09:00,200
Speaker 1: that had similar contours to this one, You're like, dude, ude,

1571
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:01,559
Speaker 1: what the fuck is happening here?

1572
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:04,920
Speaker 2: Man? Just as very dr really makes one look good.

1573
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:07,240
Speaker 2: And people are tweeting about Wanton Mallikin in the octagon,

1574
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:07,720
Speaker 2: you know what I mean?

1575
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:09,720
Speaker 1: Well, who doesn't want to see Malkin in theay?

1576
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 2: He's not young either, by the way, that fella Malka.

1577
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:13,599
Speaker 2: He's like thirty six, thirty seventies.

1578
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:14,559
Speaker 1: Okay, but it's heavyweight.

1579
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I went with you right there. All right,

1580
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:18,760
Speaker 2: let's keep it going to topic number four. H Dana

1581
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:21,320
Speaker 2: White has made it has made a bunch of announcements

1582
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:23,679
Speaker 2: last week that really have the late summer and fall

1583
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 2: looking red hot from a main event and comine event level,

1584
01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:28,759
Speaker 2: but the missing link was the comin event to UFC

1585
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:32,320
Speaker 2: three nineteen August sixteenth in Chicago. We finally have it,

1586
01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 2: and we'll see featherweights as Aaron Pico, who lost his

1587
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:40,160
Speaker 2: UFC debut fight, now gets a replacement here in Loron Murphy.

1588
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:43,680
Speaker 2: They will square off, likely of course for title shot implications.

1589
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:46,920
Speaker 2: Pico feels like a hot product coming in here as

1590
01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:49,600
Speaker 2: a free agent. This will be his debut. Luke, so

1591
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 2: do you like this fight at all as a replacement

1592
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:56,040
Speaker 2: for the Pico debut or do you see potential trap

1593
01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:59,760
Speaker 2: fight capabilities for Loroen Murphy in his style in what

1594
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:02,280
Speaker 2: should be a chance for Pico to come in and press.

1595
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:04,640
Speaker 2: And like we said, Asakura got a title shot in

1596
01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:07,080
Speaker 2: day one, Patricio Pippole was kind of set up to

1597
01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:09,240
Speaker 2: get a title shot if he had beaten Yairo Rodriguez.

1598
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:11,200
Speaker 2: There's a lot at stake here. Is this the right

1599
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:14,520
Speaker 2: opponent for the entry even though he lost his original opponent.

1600
01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 1: So he was supposed to fight on Saturday obviously, Yeah,

1601
01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:19,000
Speaker 1: and it fell apart obvious anybody, no fault of his

1602
01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:21,680
Speaker 1: own so he has to extend his camp a little bit.

1603
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 1: There's always a little bit of a concern with that,

1604
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 1: but I actually think that's better than what you get

1605
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 1: with Murphy, which is what three weeks notice or something,

1606
01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:31,439
Speaker 1: which is hardly time to prep I'll say this tough

1607
01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:34,720
Speaker 1: opponent in three weeks. Okay, I'm glad you brought that up.

1608
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:37,920
Speaker 1: It's out of the frying pan into the fire with

1609
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:41,040
Speaker 1: this one. So the problem with fighting Moulsar is that

1610
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 1: he's just got dominating grappling and you would have thought, okay,

1611
01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:47,080
Speaker 1: maybe Pico can stop that. But of course lots of

1612
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:48,559
Speaker 1: people have thought they could do that and then couldn't

1613
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:52,160
Speaker 1: get over it. But the difference is Moulzar is going

1614
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:55,800
Speaker 1: to create contact, right He's going to make contact with you.

1615
01:10:56,080 --> 01:10:57,880
Speaker 1: He's going to wrap up with you. He's gonna shoot

1616
01:10:57,880 --> 01:10:59,599
Speaker 1: on you, he's going to try and get your back.

1617
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:03,599
Speaker 1: He is going to make physical contact with you. Murphy

1618
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:06,760
Speaker 1: is not that guy. Pico's challenge here. It's not a

1619
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:10,400
Speaker 1: striker versus grappler because Murphy can grapple, obviously, but it's

1620
01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 1: a different challenge where now Murphy, and by the way,

1621
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:16,599
Speaker 1: I guess it would have been the same size cage.

1622
01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 1: Either way, it's gonna be the big cage. He's gonna

1623
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:22,559
Speaker 1: be playing keep away. And now now Pico has to

1624
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:24,760
Speaker 1: wrestle him a little bit or at a bare minimum,

1625
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 1: find not just strike with HIMBC. People think it's striking

1626
01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 1: versus grappling. No, you have to find this guy. He's

1627
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:35,960
Speaker 1: a touch and go guy. That is a completely different

1628
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:39,719
Speaker 1: fight than Maulsar. Molsar is not that guy. He's contact.

1629
01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:42,080
Speaker 2: I get it on three weeks notice. And if fighting

1630
01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:44,640
Speaker 2: ev Love was a major deal, because it's almost as

1631
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 2: if UFC doesn't want to put him in the title

1632
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 2: shot even though he deserves it. So you beat him,

1633
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:51,000
Speaker 2: you're getting catapulted. I think still, Laurrel Murphy is the

1634
01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:53,719
Speaker 2: level of opponent a quasi title contender in this division

1635
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:56,680
Speaker 2: where he almost fits the same category. But is this

1636
01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 2: the right move overall, Luke, even with the original matchup,

1637
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 2: it is out of it. They put you in the

1638
01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:05,200
Speaker 2: frying pan, right in the damn deep water all your

1639
01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:07,880
Speaker 2: uh I can use all those terms there. We always

1640
01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:10,640
Speaker 2: they always do that. But is this the type of

1641
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:13,400
Speaker 2: guy you should do that too? Or should you almost

1642
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 2: kind of set him up to look good in the

1643
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:17,719
Speaker 2: right style matchup, because he's young enough that you actually

1644
01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:18,400
Speaker 2: could build around.

1645
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 1: So that's exactly the point. Not only could Pico lose here,

1646
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:23,760
Speaker 1: he could lose here in a way where it not

1647
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:26,240
Speaker 1: that he would get thrashed per se. Although you know

1648
01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:30,479
Speaker 1: anything's possible. You can look limited and boring, bingo, bingo.

1649
01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:34,800
Speaker 1: He can be made to look like low rent. Yeah,

1650
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:36,880
Speaker 1: he can be, which is not fair because Loroa Murphy's

1651
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:40,479
Speaker 1: real good. But I'm saying Laron Murphy's style, assuming he's ready,

1652
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 1: Pico's gonna have to find a way to corner and

1653
01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:46,920
Speaker 1: control him. So does he wrestle him? Does he get

1654
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:47,599
Speaker 1: too aggressive?

1655
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:47,920
Speaker 2: Again?

1656
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:50,720
Speaker 1: Like this is a ver this is a complete or

1657
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:53,280
Speaker 1: just a completely different challenge in mos Are in some

1658
01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:57,280
Speaker 1: ways strategically a little bit more of a complex one

1659
01:12:57,600 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 1: in terms of what kind of At least when moss Are,

1660
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:02,280
Speaker 1: you kind of have a sense of what what offense

1661
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:04,640
Speaker 1: am I going to have to have ready? What are

1662
01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:06,600
Speaker 1: the pieces I'm gonna have to build around that? With

1663
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 1: Murphy it's I think much much harder to figure that out.

1664
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:12,720
Speaker 1: So Murphy is coming in on shorter notice, and I

1665
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:15,400
Speaker 1: do think that changes the equation somewhat. Do we know

1666
01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:17,360
Speaker 1: if it's five rounds. Is it a five round main

1667
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:18,519
Speaker 1: event Long Island, Luke.

1668
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:21,479
Speaker 5: I think it's only three I can look into.

1669
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:22,439
Speaker 1: Oh that's even worse.

1670
01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:26,720
Speaker 2: That's a tough st So originally a fire fighter, right,

1671
01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:29,400
Speaker 2: originally the Evil fight was originally they have low fight.

1672
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:32,040
Speaker 2: I wonder if the three week notice on this bumps.

1673
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:34,920
Speaker 1: Which is which is understandable for Murphy. I get it Murphy.

1674
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:36,960
Speaker 2: Though, as we already know, sixteen oho to one, but

1675
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:39,639
Speaker 2: it is that last fight against Josh Emmett, the five

1676
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:41,040
Speaker 2: round decision in April of that.

1677
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:43,240
Speaker 1: Emmitt is not as polished. Emmitt is a harder hitter,

1678
01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:43,600
Speaker 1: but it is right.

1679
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:45,600
Speaker 2: That didn't make you want to insert him into a

1680
01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:47,760
Speaker 2: title shot. You got the feelings like he's going to

1681
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:50,160
Speaker 2: win safely and continue on and take, you know, put

1682
01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 2: the least amount of risk. He's one of those type

1683
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 2: of fighters. He plays the edges. He's gonna he's gonna

1684
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:56,400
Speaker 2: do just enough to win in some cases while making

1685
01:13:56,439 --> 01:14:00,599
Speaker 2: you look bad. You can in a in a sense,

1686
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:03,080
Speaker 2: the UFC can eliminate that. With Pico getting a tough

1687
01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:05,080
Speaker 2: win here and then, like we said, he's going to

1688
01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 2: get elevated to the top.

1689
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 1: Well, either way. Had he gotten a win over Mosar

1690
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:10,920
Speaker 1: or Larone, either way, he would get a title shot.

1691
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 1: I think there's just no question about that. So the

1692
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:16,479
Speaker 1: stakes in that particular sense don't change. But if you're

1693
01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 1: a Pico's team, man, you really have to. It's like like,

1694
01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 1: this is a very complicated.

1695
01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:25,720
Speaker 2: Great why this is Brian Ortega per se? Just like

1696
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:27,599
Speaker 2: as an example or a yeah Ar Rodriguez, you can

1697
01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:29,679
Speaker 2: you can say, okay, I can see a scenario where

1698
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 2: he could get a knockout yea, or he could control

1699
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:33,439
Speaker 2: on the groundever where he could make this work.

1700
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:36,479
Speaker 1: Those guys force contact. Murphy is the opposite of that

1701
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:39,200
Speaker 1: kind of shit. So you really have to have a

1702
01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:43,040
Speaker 1: strategic vision dialed in and a hardcore execution of it.

1703
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:45,400
Speaker 1: And by the way, you drop one round, man, and

1704
01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:47,320
Speaker 1: then the other rounds are close. Like even if you

1705
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:49,080
Speaker 1: feel like you did enough, and we could say you

1706
01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:50,479
Speaker 1: did enough, it doesn't matter.

1707
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:51,320
Speaker 2: Let's see the tweet.

1708
01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:52,479
Speaker 5: By the way, it's three rounds.

1709
01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:54,840
Speaker 2: Oh man, dude, do you have odds on that from drive?

1710
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:56,280
Speaker 1: That's a tough assignment.

1711
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:58,400
Speaker 2: I'd love to get early odds. Can we also see

1712
01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:00,320
Speaker 2: this tweet here from Laren Murphy I'm gonna ask you

1713
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:02,880
Speaker 2: to do three jobs at once. Here here's Larn Murphy saying,

1714
01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:07,120
Speaker 2: never shot away from a challenge three weeks. Notice, no problem, banger.

1715
01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:10,760
Speaker 2: Let's go. Considering though, that he's got that Loren's got

1716
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:13,599
Speaker 2: wins over Ega Barbosa. If he added Pico to it

1717
01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:17,200
Speaker 2: and he's still unbeaten just the one draw on his

1718
01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:20,400
Speaker 2: record right through seventeen pro fights, that he'd have a

1719
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:22,559
Speaker 2: much stronger case. And moving forward, He's also got another

1720
01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:24,880
Speaker 2: albatross in front of him and Evil with, so maybe

1721
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:26,880
Speaker 2: they make those two fight each other just still and

1722
01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:27,679
Speaker 2: also keep a limit.

1723
01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:29,800
Speaker 1: By the way, here comes jay On Silva taking on

1724
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:31,120
Speaker 1: Diego Lopez.

1725
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:32,400
Speaker 2: Who's going to get a quick pass to the top

1726
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:34,519
Speaker 2: with easily easily.

1727
01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:38,080
Speaker 1: So, I mean, Murphy has the disadvantage of three weeks,

1728
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:40,040
Speaker 1: but he's got the huge advantage of Oh, here's a

1729
01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:42,799
Speaker 1: name that people want to see you get beat by. Yes,

1730
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:44,920
Speaker 1: you beat that guy. He could do a lot for you,

1731
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:47,280
Speaker 1: except if he does it in another boring way that

1732
01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:49,880
Speaker 1: it just kind of deflates the whole thing rather than

1733
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:50,960
Speaker 1: lifting himself up.

1734
01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:53,680
Speaker 2: And we got a post here from Pico on Instagram

1735
01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:55,200
Speaker 2: after the fight fell apart, saying now.

1736
01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:57,120
Speaker 1: This no, no, no, no, this was after the mostar fight

1737
01:15:57,160 --> 01:15:57,599
Speaker 1: fell apart.

1738
01:15:57,720 --> 01:15:59,479
Speaker 2: Yes, he's saying, not going to sugarcoat it that. I'm

1739
01:15:59,479 --> 01:16:01,439
Speaker 2: pretty just a pointed you pulled out of this one.

1740
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:03,439
Speaker 2: I get that things happen, and I truly hope that

1741
01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:06,320
Speaker 2: whatever's going on you recover quickly. That said, my camps

1742
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:08,800
Speaker 2: ain't cheap, aren't cheap, and I'm ready to get in

1743
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:10,280
Speaker 2: there and put on a show sooner than later. I

1744
01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 2: understand there's an opening for August sixteen. So he did

1745
01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:14,320
Speaker 2: kind of talk his way into it in a lot

1746
01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:15,679
Speaker 2: of ways. Here Smart moved by Pico.

1747
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:17,559
Speaker 1: So we should just say it again again, this is

1748
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:20,640
Speaker 1: the way the business works. It's nothing new. Yeah, but

1749
01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:23,680
Speaker 1: these plug and play scenarios where it's like, hey, you

1750
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:25,920
Speaker 1: got to take on a striker, Oh no, three weeks

1751
01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:28,000
Speaker 1: later it's or a three weeks notice, it's a change,

1752
01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:30,000
Speaker 1: and now it's going to be a grappler again, or

1753
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:32,200
Speaker 1: whatever the situation is. And that guy's coming in a

1754
01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:34,639
Speaker 1: short notice and this guy's having to change last minute.

1755
01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:36,960
Speaker 1: It messes with the kind of fight you would get

1756
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 1: under an ideal sense.

1757
01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:39,720
Speaker 2: I get, that's the way I just said smart move,

1758
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:41,519
Speaker 2: but I meant it. If you want the smoke, and

1759
01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:44,000
Speaker 2: Pico wants the damn smoke, yes, like he's kind of

1760
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:46,120
Speaker 2: been held chopping up a bit. Should have got the

1761
01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:48,439
Speaker 2: Patricio title fight. Never got it that the merger to

1762
01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:50,760
Speaker 2: PFL kind of kept them on the outside, which is

1763
01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:54,760
Speaker 2: why they're gone Patricio and him. But he wants it,

1764
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:56,600
Speaker 2: So that's the way you get it. Say, Look, I

1765
01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:59,240
Speaker 2: want to be there on the three nineteen. They gave

1766
01:16:59,320 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 2: him a tough opponent. Let's find out. Did you get

1767
01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:01,960
Speaker 2: any odds on that long now?

1768
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 5: They haven't been released yet, all right, it'll be.

1769
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Speaker 2: Interested to check that out. I want to talk to

1770
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Speaker 2: you about this, Luke. Nothing beats relaxing at home on

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Speaker 2: Done right there, still to come your DMS and my shit.

1801
01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 2: But let's hit topic number five Saturday night with Xander

1802
01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:49,360
Speaker 2: Zias in the main event picking up a vacant junior

1803
01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:52,920
Speaker 2: middleway title in the WBO. It was the final card

1804
01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:56,439
Speaker 2: for Top Rank in its current run on ESPN that

1805
01:18:56,520 --> 01:19:00,080
Speaker 2: began back in twenty seventeen, and with it, the at

1806
01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:03,920
Speaker 2: least for right now, officially a temporary end to boxing

1807
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:06,600
Speaker 2: on network television. You still have PBC on Prime, you

1808
01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:09,120
Speaker 2: still have to Oonne doing their things, but Top Ranks

1809
01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:11,240
Speaker 2: still looking for a new deal, and a lot of

1810
01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:14,040
Speaker 2: uncertainty about the future and a new player arriving in

1811
01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:17,439
Speaker 2: zoof of boxing. Luke, it's tough to hear this in

1812
01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:21,879
Speaker 2: the fallout of HBO's demise in twenty eighteen, Showtime Sports

1813
01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:25,960
Speaker 2: stopping boxing at the end of twenty twenty three. But

1814
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:28,680
Speaker 2: let's talk about what this moment actually means and how

1815
01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:31,320
Speaker 2: daunting it is. While boxing could return to the airwaves

1816
01:19:31,320 --> 01:19:33,400
Speaker 2: in the US soon on major television, we'll see how

1817
01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:36,320
Speaker 2: it all plays out, this moment creates something of a

1818
01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:40,000
Speaker 2: bookend to boxing television in the US. What's the real

1819
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:43,960
Speaker 2: reason in your eyes why TV networks have slowly walked

1820
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:46,599
Speaker 2: away from this sport, even though streaming wise, it's healthy

1821
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:47,400
Speaker 2: enough at the moment.

1822
01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:50,479
Speaker 1: So do we have the graphic of all the places

1823
01:19:50,479 --> 01:19:52,400
Speaker 1: where it's no here it is so it used to

1824
01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:54,200
Speaker 1: be on CBS, now it's not. It used to be

1825
01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:57,960
Speaker 1: on ABC. It's not ESPN again, it could return in

1826
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:01,519
Speaker 1: some fashion, but it's not HBO. Certainly it's NBC. It's

1827
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:03,599
Speaker 1: not I mean again, good return, who knows, but it's

1828
01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:04,200
Speaker 1: not Fox.

1829
01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:04,760
Speaker 2: Same thing.

1830
01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:07,360
Speaker 1: Showtime doesn't exist anymore in terms of the sports side,

1831
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:10,360
Speaker 1: and then USA Network Boxing has essentially at one point

1832
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:13,559
Speaker 1: and perhaps permanently, walked away from all of them. Listen,

1833
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:15,920
Speaker 1: I missed the whole conversation around the Ali Act, though

1834
01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:19,519
Speaker 1: I'm sure you and Shaunza tell I saw something that

1835
01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:23,040
Speaker 1: was brilliant. Yeah, let's put that aside for just a

1836
01:20:23,080 --> 01:20:26,000
Speaker 1: minute because one of the real let's go back. I

1837
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:28,479
Speaker 1: know it might be Orwellian, but they're calling at the

1838
01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:31,160
Speaker 1: Box among other names. They're calling it the boxing revival.

1839
01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:33,760
Speaker 1: Revival is the act. There is a bit of truth

1840
01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:35,400
Speaker 1: to that, not that they're the ones who are going

1841
01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:39,800
Speaker 1: to revive it per se, but they're taking advantage of

1842
01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:43,160
Speaker 1: it at a very important moment in time. They have

1843
01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:46,880
Speaker 1: waited for the sport and the sports caretakers to let

1844
01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:49,800
Speaker 1: it wither on the vine to such a degree that

1845
01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:53,599
Speaker 1: now is, among other reasons, the perfect time for them

1846
01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:56,759
Speaker 1: to try a takeover at a bare minimum, to assert

1847
01:20:56,800 --> 01:21:00,360
Speaker 1: themselves into the marketplace in a very dominant way. The

1848
01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:01,920
Speaker 1: reality is, we see, I went back and I looked

1849
01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:06,040
Speaker 1: at this. Here are just some facts since the end

1850
01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:11,040
Speaker 1: of the Pakia Mayweather era of boxing. Pay per views

1851
01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:12,759
Speaker 1: never really recovered in this country.

1852
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:16,760
Speaker 2: I mean the upgrade and illegal streaming, the ability to

1853
01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:18,280
Speaker 2: do it even easier has been Yeah.

1854
01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:20,519
Speaker 1: But you didn't really develop stars after that. I mean,

1855
01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:22,799
Speaker 1: that's really the bigger issue to me. So that's one

1856
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:25,360
Speaker 1: something I didn't really fully appreciate until I looked into it.

1857
01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:30,800
Speaker 1: The ratings of boxing before and after COVID collapsed. So

1858
01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:33,200
Speaker 1: that was another part where they just never really were

1859
01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:35,519
Speaker 1: as some other sports organizations you have seen included.

1860
01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:37,840
Speaker 2: You've also read hot, which could have stolen a casual

1861
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:38,599
Speaker 2: part of that audience.

1862
01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:40,160
Speaker 1: I think it absolutely did, and I think more broadly,

1863
01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:44,080
Speaker 1: irrespective of the pandemic, MMA has taken away a part

1864
01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:48,680
Speaker 1: of the sporting public consciousness that would pay attention to boxing,

1865
01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:51,720
Speaker 1: and they just kind of redirected it to themselves, and

1866
01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:53,519
Speaker 1: of course that you can expand the pie. It's not

1867
01:21:53,680 --> 01:21:57,960
Speaker 1: altogether siphoning off people in that way. But the reality

1868
01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:02,080
Speaker 1: is because the sport is so fractured, and because the

1869
01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:06,000
Speaker 1: people charged with maintaining the sports excellence, in particular the

1870
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:10,240
Speaker 1: sanctioning bodies have done such a bad job, they have

1871
01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:14,360
Speaker 1: helped guide its irrelevance, no doubt, There's just no way

1872
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:18,360
Speaker 1: around it. And so because you have an interesting regulatory

1873
01:22:18,439 --> 01:22:20,680
Speaker 1: moment where the timing is right, if you want to

1874
01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:23,519
Speaker 1: just deregulate and strip out protections, it's a good time

1875
01:22:23,560 --> 01:22:26,479
Speaker 1: for you. And then on top of it, because the

1876
01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:29,400
Speaker 1: stakeholders and the people who care for boxing have done

1877
01:22:29,439 --> 01:22:32,680
Speaker 1: such a poor job maintaining its visibility and access in

1878
01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:36,160
Speaker 1: ways they've ruined it. There is another component you mentioned

1879
01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:37,760
Speaker 1: is doing well on streaming. I mean, I don't know,

1880
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:42,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if I buy that under linear television

1881
01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:46,519
Speaker 1: considerations there was more much. I mean, I know there's

1882
01:22:46,520 --> 01:22:48,840
Speaker 1: more money being spent on streaming, but in terms of

1883
01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:51,080
Speaker 1: how much money was being made from television versus so

1884
01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:54,880
Speaker 1: much money being made from streaming, most sports organizations made

1885
01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:58,280
Speaker 1: more money from from linear television right, Well.

1886
01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:00,000
Speaker 2: We're in the midst of the change because Netflix is

1887
01:23:00,479 --> 01:23:02,160
Speaker 2: doing so I'm boxing streaming huge well.

1888
01:23:02,160 --> 01:23:04,040
Speaker 1: Also, May of twenty twenty five was the first time

1889
01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:06,559
Speaker 1: there were more people watching streaming than there were white

1890
01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:09,280
Speaker 1: households than there were watching linear television. That the tipping

1891
01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:11,600
Speaker 1: point was finally achieved. But the point I'm trying to

1892
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:15,320
Speaker 1: make is like a lot of streaming services are not

1893
01:23:15,400 --> 01:23:17,960
Speaker 1: making a lot of money. In fact, streaming the churn

1894
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:21,599
Speaker 1: has been enormous and it's been very, very difficult. That

1895
01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:24,599
Speaker 1: means that they're going to cut things that they can

1896
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:28,519
Speaker 1: rely upon less to generate revenue for them and outside

1897
01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:31,120
Speaker 1: of big pay per views, which again the players in

1898
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:33,920
Speaker 1: the space have a hard time working together to make

1899
01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:35,880
Speaker 1: the biggest fights all the time. Again, there's been some

1900
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:39,280
Speaker 1: change in that. What I'm saying to you is, if

1901
01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:41,960
Speaker 1: you're running a streaming service PC and you need to

1902
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:45,040
Speaker 1: focus on things that you can guarantee are going to

1903
01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:49,400
Speaker 1: make revenue, particularly at scale with consistency, A league model

1904
01:23:49,479 --> 01:23:52,880
Speaker 1: for sports teams is going to go much further than oh,

1905
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:55,000
Speaker 1: we got a one off in February and then another

1906
01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:57,439
Speaker 1: one in July, and then maybe that falls through because

1907
01:23:57,479 --> 01:24:01,840
Speaker 1: tank Kid his girlfriend again allegedly in Florida. So all

1908
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:05,160
Speaker 1: of these factors to me have sucked the life out

1909
01:24:05,160 --> 01:24:09,120
Speaker 1: of US boxing. And as a consequence, the timing is,

1910
01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:12,040
Speaker 1: if you're just Dana White and pure, it's fucking perfect

1911
01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:14,720
Speaker 1: for them to just snatch it up by the I

1912
01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:14,960
Speaker 1: think of.

1913
01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:17,000
Speaker 2: The people that might be voting on this, you know,

1914
01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:19,640
Speaker 2: congressional bill, people like, oh yeah, I remember when I

1915
01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:21,400
Speaker 2: used to watch boxing. It was more fun and it

1916
01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:23,120
Speaker 2: felt like it was more organized. We need something to

1917
01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:25,519
Speaker 2: fix that. Well, they seem to have the perfect antidote

1918
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:27,720
Speaker 2: with the headlines of it's gonna be safer, it's going

1919
01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:29,160
Speaker 2: to be all this. But we've you know, we got

1920
01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:30,880
Speaker 2: into that on Friday, and I think you certainly know

1921
01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:32,960
Speaker 2: our stance. I'm not going to say this is much

1922
01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:35,160
Speaker 2: ado about nothing. I'm not gonna say this doesn't mean anything.

1923
01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:37,240
Speaker 2: And I know it's going to sound like the typical

1924
01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:39,599
Speaker 2: boxing guy as there's a fire behind him going nothing

1925
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:41,840
Speaker 2: to see here, We're fine. And that's sort of my

1926
01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:44,639
Speaker 2: history in my coverage of boxing, and boxing is always

1927
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:47,320
Speaker 2: on fire in negative ways and then alternates quickly to

1928
01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:49,160
Speaker 2: be on fire and good ways, but then can return

1929
01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:52,519
Speaker 2: right there. I think a lot of it though, has

1930
01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:55,800
Speaker 2: to do with the changing trends I mean networks, I

1931
01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:58,800
Speaker 2: mean streaming is taking over the impact and the value

1932
01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:00,880
Speaker 2: of network TV, so so of course you would see

1933
01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:03,040
Speaker 2: some of those numbers changes. You also have to look

1934
01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:05,759
Speaker 2: at things like Dezone is putting on like seventy percent

1935
01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:07,120
Speaker 2: of the box and it's televised.

1936
01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:08,000
Speaker 1: These days, that's a disaster.

1937
01:25:08,160 --> 01:25:10,240
Speaker 2: I know, at least when it was in the showtime

1938
01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:12,559
Speaker 2: in HBO era, you would have people who had showtime

1939
01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:15,559
Speaker 2: in HBO for other reasons, scripted series, movies, whatever, and

1940
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:17,599
Speaker 2: that's like, oh, fights on, let me see who's watching.

1941
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:19,519
Speaker 2: You're never going to get that in the American market

1942
01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:21,519
Speaker 2: on his zone. Yet they have all you know what

1943
01:25:21,560 --> 01:25:24,400
Speaker 2: I mean. And then like it's like the part that

1944
01:25:24,439 --> 01:25:26,280
Speaker 2: I really don't love about this a react is that

1945
01:25:26,280 --> 01:25:28,040
Speaker 2: they're pushing it from the stance of like, can't you

1946
01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:31,440
Speaker 2: see boxing's dead in America. Well, I think Turkey played

1947
01:25:31,479 --> 01:25:33,120
Speaker 2: a role in that, not just putting all of his

1948
01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:35,880
Speaker 2: fights on to Zone again where people can't stumble into it,

1949
01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:38,639
Speaker 2: but putting fights out of Las Vegas and putting them

1950
01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:43,680
Speaker 2: you know, too often or unnecessarily in certain Turkey so no,

1951
01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:46,479
Speaker 2: I'm saying it all matters, it all plays in. Also,

1952
01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:48,840
Speaker 2: this is the end of a current era, and I'm

1953
01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:50,960
Speaker 2: not saying this was the best era. The last ten

1954
01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:53,880
Speaker 2: to fifteen years. The era here where we went away

1955
01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:57,519
Speaker 2: from what Prime, HBO and Showtime used to be, where

1956
01:25:57,560 --> 01:25:59,439
Speaker 2: any promoter can come to them and they're going to

1957
01:25:59,479 --> 01:26:03,000
Speaker 2: pay the highest dollar for the best fights. That went

1958
01:26:03,040 --> 01:26:07,440
Speaker 2: away when exclusive contracts started and exclusive contracts allowed promoters

1959
01:26:07,479 --> 01:26:11,439
Speaker 2: to you know, be up longer, have more money at

1960
01:26:11,439 --> 01:26:13,600
Speaker 2: their disposable And we did have a good era of

1961
01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:17,439
Speaker 2: big end fights, but that also breeds more segregation and

1962
01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:20,040
Speaker 2: promoters not working together unless a fight is big enough

1963
01:26:20,040 --> 01:26:21,559
Speaker 2: where you can do a two network pay per view.

1964
01:26:22,080 --> 01:26:23,840
Speaker 2: This is the end of that era, and that era

1965
01:26:23,960 --> 01:26:25,760
Speaker 2: has to die for a new one to begin. In

1966
01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:28,400
Speaker 2: some ways, so I don't necessarily look at it as

1967
01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:31,040
Speaker 2: can't you see this sport's dead. The sport's a niche sport.

1968
01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:34,040
Speaker 2: It has the opportunity, when done right in the right matchup,

1969
01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:35,960
Speaker 2: you shoot it to the masses. It can do bigger

1970
01:26:35,960 --> 01:26:38,519
Speaker 2: than anything else in sports. That's still true, But we're

1971
01:26:38,560 --> 01:26:41,160
Speaker 2: coming off of that era, which wasn't a fully healthy

1972
01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:44,920
Speaker 2: one where the networks lost their teeth where they just

1973
01:26:45,000 --> 01:26:46,720
Speaker 2: gave the keys to the promoter coming in that they

1974
01:26:46,720 --> 01:26:48,479
Speaker 2: signed the deal with and said, you know, in some

1975
01:26:48,560 --> 01:26:50,479
Speaker 2: cases you match make you do everything. You know, you

1976
01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:53,559
Speaker 2: programmed this for us. That's the UFC model to be fair,

1977
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:56,720
Speaker 2: you know what in that regard, and I think we

1978
01:26:56,800 --> 01:26:58,439
Speaker 2: got to get around that and see what's next. Is

1979
01:26:58,520 --> 01:27:01,360
Speaker 2: Netflix going to become the new what HBO meant to

1980
01:27:01,400 --> 01:27:03,680
Speaker 2: boxing in the late nineties, right where we're only the

1981
01:27:03,680 --> 01:27:05,400
Speaker 2: best fights, no matter who the protra is. You bring

1982
01:27:05,439 --> 01:27:07,040
Speaker 2: the fight to us, we'll give it to you. It's

1983
01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:10,400
Speaker 2: gonna have to change in that regard. Also, you know

1984
01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:14,000
Speaker 2: my sources telling me ESPN's not done at all with boxing. Yeah. Again,

1985
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:16,599
Speaker 2: it brings about to now we're.

1986
01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:19,040
Speaker 1: Only having this conversation at a moment where right now

1987
01:27:19,439 --> 01:27:20,120
Speaker 1: there's I'm.

1988
01:27:19,960 --> 01:27:22,160
Speaker 2: Saying it could look worse than it actually is. I'm

1989
01:27:22,200 --> 01:27:23,880
Speaker 2: not saying it's overly super healthy.

1990
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:27,320
Speaker 1: You would agree, You would agree since the last five years,

1991
01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:29,960
Speaker 1: in particular, the last ten boxing isn't is not as

1992
01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:31,759
Speaker 1: healthy as it was even ten years ago.

1993
01:27:32,360 --> 01:27:34,680
Speaker 2: You could say fifteen, then I could tell you that

1994
01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:37,120
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three was an insanely great sport. And that's

1995
01:27:37,120 --> 01:27:39,120
Speaker 2: before Turkey even got here. It was insanely great year

1996
01:27:39,160 --> 01:27:39,800
Speaker 2: for the sport. I met.

1997
01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:42,439
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty three was a great year. Great, but we.

1998
01:27:42,439 --> 01:27:45,200
Speaker 2: Also had post pandemic years have been pretty damn good.

1999
01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:49,160
Speaker 1: Okay, but with to me, the common denominator is the

2000
01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:54,160
Speaker 1: withdrawal of network television from boxing has been in the

2001
01:27:54,280 --> 01:27:57,599
Speaker 1: United States devastating because as I understand it, it's still

2002
01:27:57,640 --> 01:28:01,360
Speaker 1: on network television in places like the UK, right, I mean,

2003
01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:02,880
Speaker 1: they have something of a pa per view model there,

2004
01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:04,360
Speaker 1: but they also have a lot of stuff that's on

2005
01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:05,840
Speaker 1: over the air television.

2006
01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:06,200
Speaker 2: Sure.

2007
01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:10,080
Speaker 1: I did a sports radio show recently in my local

2008
01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:12,360
Speaker 1: market and they were asking me. The question was what

2009
01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:13,800
Speaker 1: happened to boxing? And I was like, oh, but look

2010
01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:15,240
Speaker 1: at this, look at this, look at this. And they're like,

2011
01:28:15,640 --> 01:28:17,960
Speaker 1: we can't name any top boxers. I mean, they know

2012
01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:20,760
Speaker 1: who Canelo is, maybe, but we can't name any American

2013
01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:25,000
Speaker 1: top boxers. How many people can name top American boxers anymore?

2014
01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:27,960
Speaker 2: I mean they really couldn't since the nineties, to be fair,

2015
01:28:27,960 --> 01:28:28,680
Speaker 2: and that that's the.

2016
01:28:28,960 --> 01:28:31,360
Speaker 1: Diff Floyd is that everyone knew who Floyd was. Who's

2017
01:28:31,360 --> 01:28:34,479
Speaker 1: Floyd's replacement in the American market, nobody.

2018
01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:36,640
Speaker 2: Well it was Floyd Ampacio and.

2019
01:28:36,640 --> 01:28:38,760
Speaker 1: Was not American in the American market.

2020
01:28:38,479 --> 01:28:40,240
Speaker 2: Okay, he was pretty damn so he was huge here.

2021
01:28:40,280 --> 01:28:40,840
Speaker 2: I get it, I get it.

2022
01:28:40,840 --> 01:28:44,559
Speaker 1: But I'm saying, as an American fighter, who is the

2023
01:28:44,600 --> 01:28:45,360
Speaker 1: guy who is that?

2024
01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:48,360
Speaker 2: Now? There was not a succeeder in that.

2025
01:28:48,280 --> 01:28:51,000
Speaker 1: Not even had we had to use whoever, Yes, not

2026
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:51,639
Speaker 1: even close.

2027
01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:54,000
Speaker 2: But that doesn't know what that didn't It doesn't matter

2028
01:28:54,040 --> 01:28:57,160
Speaker 2: to me because up until basically this past year, America

2029
01:28:57,280 --> 01:28:59,519
Speaker 2: was you know, the US was still the brightest stage

2030
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:01,800
Speaker 2: for boxing because of Las Vegas, right, So it almost

2031
01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:03,559
Speaker 2: didn't matter to me with I get what you're saying,

2032
01:29:03,960 --> 01:29:06,800
Speaker 2: but as long as it can be communicated to an

2033
01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:08,960
Speaker 2: American audience in Pakia did that. Canelo did that to

2034
01:29:09,000 --> 01:29:10,920
Speaker 2: a certain degree, Triple G for a short window to

2035
01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:14,880
Speaker 2: a certain degree. It's really everything all at once. But

2036
01:29:14,920 --> 01:29:17,400
Speaker 2: I don't think it's also the the end. This era

2037
01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:19,120
Speaker 2: has to end for a new one to start, and

2038
01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:21,120
Speaker 2: we're in the midst of that transition. What is the

2039
01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:23,599
Speaker 2: new era gonna look like? That's what we're debating every episode. Yeah,

2040
01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:25,840
Speaker 2: I mean it's not fully held, it's not great, it's

2041
01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:28,160
Speaker 2: not a great stat to see all these networks not

2042
01:29:28,320 --> 01:29:31,760
Speaker 2: covering it. But ESPN's a bound to bounce back. We're

2043
01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:33,880
Speaker 2: gonna see zoof for boxing land in a big a

2044
01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:35,400
Speaker 2: big channel could be ESPN.

2045
01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:39,720
Speaker 1: Boxing doing the UFC thing to me is not boxing's believe.

2046
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:42,599
Speaker 2: Me, well, I agree with you on that uh top rank.

2047
01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:44,800
Speaker 2: If you've seen Bob Ahriman interviews over the weekend, is

2048
01:29:44,840 --> 01:29:46,759
Speaker 2: about to announce there they're going to be on streaming.

2049
01:29:46,760 --> 01:29:48,599
Speaker 2: They said they're gonna be on regular cable like there's

2050
01:29:48,600 --> 01:29:50,439
Speaker 2: gonna be a couple partners with there, So we'll see

2051
01:29:50,439 --> 01:29:53,760
Speaker 2: what that plays out. It's still we have to get

2052
01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:57,800
Speaker 2: away from a network's over paying promoters to play just

2053
01:29:57,880 --> 01:30:00,599
Speaker 2: their fights, and we are getting away from that. Agree,

2054
01:30:00,840 --> 01:30:01,960
Speaker 2: But what's it going to look like with you? Do

2055
01:30:02,080 --> 01:30:02,720
Speaker 2: you not agree though?

2056
01:30:02,720 --> 01:30:04,200
Speaker 1: That there's a part of this conversation that has to

2057
01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:05,920
Speaker 1: get made is one of the sanctioning bodies have fucked

2058
01:30:05,960 --> 01:30:08,080
Speaker 1: everything up by not forcing the fights that deserve to

2059
01:30:08,080 --> 01:30:12,040
Speaker 1: get made. Two the exclusive contracts. As you pointed out,

2060
01:30:12,320 --> 01:30:15,639
Speaker 1: there has been if the promoters across the aisle were

2061
01:30:15,680 --> 01:30:19,360
Speaker 1: more willing to work together to make big fights. Do

2062
01:30:19,439 --> 01:30:22,680
Speaker 1: you believe network television would still be in boxing, I

2063
01:30:22,680 --> 01:30:24,800
Speaker 1: should say, have a bigger footprint than it has now.

2064
01:30:24,840 --> 01:30:27,639
Speaker 2: Of course, okay about this, the boxing had to rely

2065
01:30:27,680 --> 01:30:29,719
Speaker 2: on the pay per view system to its own fault.

2066
01:30:29,880 --> 01:30:31,800
Speaker 2: Even they had to rely on that golden era of

2067
01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:34,679
Speaker 2: Showtime and HBO competing against each other to their own

2068
01:30:34,680 --> 01:30:36,720
Speaker 2: fault because it's split the market. You're no longer on

2069
01:30:36,880 --> 01:30:39,200
Speaker 2: network TV, You're on pay cable, but at least there's

2070
01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:41,320
Speaker 2: enough casual overlap and to pay cable on that.

2071
01:30:41,960 --> 01:30:44,599
Speaker 1: I'm as happy as the next guy to say that

2072
01:30:44,640 --> 01:30:46,479
Speaker 1: what's coming I think is going to have a lot

2073
01:30:46,479 --> 01:30:50,640
Speaker 1: of problems. But there's simply no denying that the architects

2074
01:30:50,640 --> 01:30:53,880
Speaker 1: and maintainers of boxing as we understand it today have

2075
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:56,800
Speaker 1: played a substantive role in the reason why I think

2076
01:30:56,800 --> 01:30:58,360
Speaker 1: a zoofa takeover is inevitable.

2077
01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:01,040
Speaker 2: But the answer is the zoof take The question is

2078
01:31:01,040 --> 01:31:02,920
Speaker 2: is the zoos for take over the right answer? Or

2079
01:31:02,960 --> 01:31:05,080
Speaker 2: are you just giving away all of your rights as

2080
01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:08,120
Speaker 2: a fighter and as a rival promoter and allowing an

2081
01:31:08,160 --> 01:31:10,360
Speaker 2: empty to come in and on day one have a monopoly,

2082
01:31:10,479 --> 01:31:12,000
Speaker 2: because that's what we're setting this up to me.

2083
01:31:12,040 --> 01:31:13,719
Speaker 1: Let me say something very quickly. I want to connect

2084
01:31:13,720 --> 01:31:17,240
Speaker 1: the dots here a little bit. Folks might say, again,

2085
01:31:17,479 --> 01:31:20,000
Speaker 1: isn't there some benefit to monopoly and sports considering like

2086
01:31:20,040 --> 01:31:22,559
Speaker 1: the NFL, for example, has it, and certain certain sports

2087
01:31:22,600 --> 01:31:25,160
Speaker 1: leagues have anti trust exemptions expresses, we have players unions,

2088
01:31:25,160 --> 01:31:28,280
Speaker 1: and of course, putting aside the fact that there's protections

2089
01:31:28,280 --> 01:31:29,960
Speaker 1: and everything else like that, I'm just simply saying, isn't

2090
01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:32,559
Speaker 1: there some kind of like if you're a network and

2091
01:31:32,560 --> 01:31:34,360
Speaker 1: someone's like, oh, you can have all the best fighters,

2092
01:31:34,360 --> 01:31:35,840
Speaker 1: They're gonna be like, oh yeah, fuck yeah, we want

2093
01:31:35,840 --> 01:31:38,920
Speaker 1: that versus some fractured environment. It just works better in

2094
01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:41,120
Speaker 1: that way. But I want to be clear about something.

2095
01:31:41,160 --> 01:31:45,720
Speaker 1: If the game is to ultimately control what kind of

2096
01:31:45,800 --> 01:31:50,120
Speaker 1: money is made by the athletes, I think people have

2097
01:31:50,240 --> 01:31:53,040
Speaker 1: never I don't think people have connected the dots in

2098
01:31:53,160 --> 01:31:55,560
Speaker 1: MMA as much like why is MMA in decline and

2099
01:31:55,600 --> 01:31:58,040
Speaker 1: the way that it is? Many many reasons for it

2100
01:31:58,120 --> 01:32:01,439
Speaker 1: now UFC per se, but MMA more broad, but UFC two,

2101
01:32:01,479 --> 01:32:05,560
Speaker 1: like why is the heavyweight division so fucking bad? It's

2102
01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:08,240
Speaker 1: many reasons. One of them has got to be that

2103
01:32:08,400 --> 01:32:11,439
Speaker 1: you are not putting out enough of an incentive to

2104
01:32:11,479 --> 01:32:15,439
Speaker 1: attract athletes over the course of generations that make this

2105
01:32:15,560 --> 01:32:18,880
Speaker 1: worth it their while. So yes, could there be some

2106
01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:22,439
Speaker 1: kind of benefit to consolidation for a network to then

2107
01:32:22,479 --> 01:32:26,400
Speaker 1: really get behind the product. Yes, However, the long term

2108
01:32:26,479 --> 01:32:30,960
Speaker 1: cost of making the athletes take less there's no such

2109
01:32:30,960 --> 01:32:32,960
Speaker 1: thing as a free lunch. You will have to pay

2110
01:32:32,960 --> 01:32:36,479
Speaker 1: that tax over the course of ten, twenty, thirty, forty years.

2111
01:32:37,160 --> 01:32:39,720
Speaker 1: And I don't think it's going to result necessarily in

2112
01:32:39,800 --> 01:32:43,479
Speaker 1: all of the ease and understanding that we typically have

2113
01:32:43,600 --> 01:32:44,200
Speaker 1: with boxing.

2114
01:32:44,320 --> 01:32:47,040
Speaker 2: Will we end up comparing the Riact to the Patriot

2115
01:32:47,080 --> 01:32:50,360
Speaker 2: Act and the same uh same uh overreact.

2116
01:32:50,360 --> 01:32:51,760
Speaker 1: I don't think you're going to get people marching in

2117
01:32:51,800 --> 01:32:54,280
Speaker 1: the streets over the ri Act, but but.

2118
01:32:54,240 --> 01:32:58,280
Speaker 2: It's the same level of extreme overreaction, like something needs

2119
01:32:58,320 --> 01:33:00,559
Speaker 2: to change and it's changed, dude, I mean changed. It's

2120
01:33:00,560 --> 01:33:04,320
Speaker 2: so fun. The answer isn't one one store, and that's it.

2121
01:33:04,320 --> 01:33:05,280
Speaker 2: The answer isn't Walmart.

2122
01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:07,040
Speaker 1: Let's just be very clear about it. T KO is

2123
01:33:07,160 --> 01:33:10,440
Speaker 1: trying to use the federal government to write custom legislation

2124
01:33:10,720 --> 01:33:12,960
Speaker 1: to entrench their market position.

2125
01:33:13,000 --> 01:33:14,840
Speaker 2: And now you've got an aikiso of MVP being like, Yo,

2126
01:33:14,920 --> 01:33:16,200
Speaker 2: this is what needs to happen. We can be a

2127
01:33:16,280 --> 01:33:16,840
Speaker 2: UBO too.

2128
01:33:17,000 --> 01:33:19,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just unfucking believable. Well, that's what's happening. You're

2129
01:33:19,240 --> 01:33:25,559
Speaker 1: having companies write federal legislation to entrench position. It used

2130
01:33:25,560 --> 01:33:27,439
Speaker 1: to be the case that they wanted to, you know,

2131
01:33:28,120 --> 01:33:31,200
Speaker 1: uh uh work with the government, right like we were

2132
01:33:31,280 --> 01:33:34,160
Speaker 1: going to run towards regulation. And now what they're trying

2133
01:33:34,200 --> 01:33:36,080
Speaker 1: to do is become so powerful that they get to

2134
01:33:36,160 --> 01:33:41,800
Speaker 1: define what regulation even looks like regulators. So anyway, that's

2135
01:33:41,840 --> 01:33:44,240
Speaker 1: what's happening here. And I just think long term, if

2136
01:33:44,240 --> 01:33:47,400
Speaker 1: you're going to undercut what makes it valuable to the athlete,

2137
01:33:47,920 --> 01:33:50,760
Speaker 1: that will hurt the product long term. And I think

2138
01:33:50,880 --> 01:33:54,280
Speaker 1: some of those fruits are being born out here in

2139
01:33:54,439 --> 01:33:58,439
Speaker 1: MMA today.

2140
01:33:56,840 --> 01:33:59,680
Speaker 2: And not all change is negative and and there there

2141
01:33:59,720 --> 01:34:02,600
Speaker 2: could be positives to the sport of organizations.

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Speaker 1: Good luck THEO Cruiser White Belt.

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Speaker 2: I've seen the recent history that it's actually not beneficial

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Speaker 2: for the athletes themselves. Then that's that's where the argument

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01:34:12,880 --> 01:34:14,840
Speaker 2: begins in my eyes. We have a tweetter from Dan

2146
01:34:14,920 --> 01:34:16,600
Speaker 2: Rayfield to sum it all up on the impact of

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Speaker 2: this moment. The last top rank event of its ESPN

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Speaker 2: contract their Saturday. After that, there'll be no regularly schedule

2149
01:34:22,640 --> 01:34:25,400
Speaker 2: boxing on linear TV in the US for the first

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01:34:25,400 --> 01:34:28,840
Speaker 2: time since essentially the early nineteen forties when TV became

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01:34:28,880 --> 01:34:31,920
Speaker 2: widely accessible. Shame on the stewards of the sport who

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01:34:31,960 --> 01:34:34,120
Speaker 2: let it happen. I mean, I can't say he's wrong. No,

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01:34:34,160 --> 01:34:36,200
Speaker 2: it's not wrong. And I can't say the four sanctioning

2154
01:34:36,240 --> 01:34:38,600
Speaker 2: body system has been awesome for this.

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01:34:38,760 --> 01:34:40,759
Speaker 1: They've been thieves of the sport.

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01:34:40,920 --> 01:34:43,240
Speaker 2: But you're gonna, you know, you're gonna have to figure

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01:34:43,240 --> 01:34:45,040
Speaker 2: out if you want the extreme opposite of that, and

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01:34:45,080 --> 01:34:49,000
Speaker 2: that's the the UFC monopoly system. That's what you're getting.

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01:34:49,000 --> 01:34:52,080
Speaker 1: Do you want combat sports to turn into banquet food,

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01:34:52,240 --> 01:34:53,439
Speaker 1: because that's what you're gonna get.

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01:34:53,640 --> 01:34:56,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, there it is. That's our take on that. Those

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01:34:56,120 --> 01:34:59,000
Speaker 2: are your five topics for the week. Argue amongst yourselves

2163
01:34:59,040 --> 01:35:01,200
Speaker 2: in the comments. Please also, we give you a chance

2164
01:35:01,200 --> 01:35:04,519
Speaker 2: every Sunday evening to have your questions answered. Okay, so

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01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:09,280
Speaker 2: we put out the bat alert light thing on Instagram

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Speaker 2: and on x that morning. Combat you'll respond to that,

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01:35:12,600 --> 01:35:14,360
Speaker 2: you'll maybe get on the show. We got to complete

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Speaker 2: compete with flannels and JITs and dazz down there in

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01:35:17,760 --> 01:35:20,639
Speaker 2: mahallow Land. This one's called d MS from the doll

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01:35:24,080 --> 01:35:25,599
Speaker 2: I mean that just sounds so awful.

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01:35:25,680 --> 01:35:29,120
Speaker 1: Luke, I hate it, but the fans love it, and

2172
01:35:29,160 --> 01:35:30,720
Speaker 1: so therefore we are stuck with it.

2173
01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:33,599
Speaker 2: First question you got, producers. It comes to us from

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01:35:33,680 --> 01:35:39,639
Speaker 2: Jack Haggerty, Luke, who's next? We stole his thunder here?

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01:35:39,680 --> 01:35:43,479
Speaker 2: And hilarious John Jones at the two five. I mean,

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01:35:43,880 --> 01:35:44,519
Speaker 2: were you thinking?

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Speaker 1: I was just trying to make the use of the

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Speaker 1: game as best I could. Dude, it's getting up here

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01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:54,920
Speaker 1: and being like he should retire, Like there's just no

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01:35:55,040 --> 01:35:56,479
Speaker 1: way that he's going to do that, right, I mean,

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01:35:56,479 --> 01:35:58,280
Speaker 1: it seems so implausible, So like you have to think

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01:35:58,320 --> 01:36:01,599
Speaker 1: of it, strickling fight to mek fight.

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01:36:02,240 --> 01:36:04,640
Speaker 2: I'd rather shower a bullet.

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01:36:05,200 --> 01:36:06,640
Speaker 1: See, now you're giving him fights that are going to

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01:36:06,720 --> 01:36:08,439
Speaker 1: cost him some damage.

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01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:10,439
Speaker 2: In the long run. Yeah, yeah, I mean they all are.

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01:36:10,520 --> 01:36:13,000
Speaker 2: They all will. Who we got next up in this piece?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 2: From our Kirk three to ten, Welcome to the party.

2190
01:36:17,479 --> 01:36:21,000
Speaker 2: Love to hear your opinions on Rob de Valashvili. Cory

2191
01:36:21,160 --> 01:36:23,360
Speaker 2: Sandhagen is coming up at UFC three.

2192
01:36:23,640 --> 01:36:25,680
Speaker 1: Well, we got to get questions that are picked that

2193
01:36:25,720 --> 01:36:29,000
Speaker 1: are not derivative of the actual topics that we have.

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01:36:29,120 --> 01:36:32,799
Speaker 1: They need to be distinct, say that fair question.

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01:36:34,040 --> 01:36:35,240
Speaker 2: You're excited for that fight, aren't you.

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01:36:35,280 --> 01:36:36,680
Speaker 1: I'm excited for that fight. And again I'm gonna say

2197
01:36:36,720 --> 01:36:40,200
Speaker 1: one more time, I'm not picking against Morob until he loses.

2198
01:36:41,560 --> 01:36:43,040
Speaker 2: But smart of you talking about a guy on a

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01:36:43,080 --> 01:36:43,960
Speaker 2: fourteen fight win streak.

2200
01:36:44,840 --> 01:36:47,680
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like or looking for a fortu, what

2201
01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:52,599
Speaker 1: is the best way to beat Morob san Hagen's way

2202
01:36:53,120 --> 01:36:55,240
Speaker 1: is not if you fought him a hundred times, he

2203
01:36:55,240 --> 01:36:59,479
Speaker 1: would lose the majority of them. Yes, however, saying fuck it,

2204
01:36:59,600 --> 01:37:01,679
Speaker 1: I'm glad to go for broke on this fucking guy

2205
01:37:02,320 --> 01:37:04,720
Speaker 1: I think is by far your best chance to do it.

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01:37:05,439 --> 01:37:10,080
Speaker 1: You have to have to finish him to be smart.

2207
01:37:09,840 --> 01:37:11,320
Speaker 2: But you gotta be smart. I don't think you have

2208
01:37:11,360 --> 01:37:13,679
Speaker 2: to finish him. I'm not saying it's easy. I'm not saying.

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Speaker 1: Someone's to have an approach. We're finishing him. You're right,

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01:37:16,840 --> 01:37:17,120
Speaker 1: you don't.

2211
01:37:17,200 --> 01:37:18,760
Speaker 2: You gotta win three rounds at the end of don't

2212
01:37:18,760 --> 01:37:19,120
Speaker 2: make it hard.

2213
01:37:19,360 --> 01:37:23,240
Speaker 1: But you have to have an approach that legitimately threatens him.

2214
01:37:23,560 --> 01:37:25,960
Speaker 1: And that means you have to fucking have a little

2215
01:37:25,960 --> 01:37:26,760
Speaker 1: bit of recklessness.

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01:37:26,920 --> 01:37:28,760
Speaker 2: You've got to get you've got to discipline him, You've

2217
01:37:28,760 --> 01:37:30,080
Speaker 2: got to take away him free will.

2218
01:37:30,080 --> 01:37:32,559
Speaker 1: And that's not holstering offense, that's letting.

2219
01:37:32,400 --> 01:37:34,800
Speaker 2: It go interesting. Let's hear from the next from the

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01:37:34,880 --> 01:37:38,200
Speaker 2: next person that wants uh. If this is from Ethan Tagger,

2221
01:37:38,479 --> 01:37:41,200
Speaker 2: how do you guys see the one hundred and fifty

2222
01:37:41,200 --> 01:37:43,879
Speaker 2: four pound division playing out? A lot of great names

2223
01:37:43,920 --> 01:37:45,840
Speaker 2: in and near the division right now, and I think

2224
01:37:45,880 --> 01:37:47,679
Speaker 2: some of the best fights that can be made are

2225
01:37:47,720 --> 01:37:50,240
Speaker 2: in this group. Yeah, they're definitely talking about boxing. It's

2226
01:37:50,240 --> 01:37:51,280
Speaker 2: the deepest Shiit division.

2227
01:37:51,320 --> 01:37:54,760
Speaker 1: At the very top, Boots resigned with Matroom, Boots.

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01:37:54,439 --> 01:37:57,400
Speaker 2: At the very top, resigned with Mattroom, Virgil Ortiz Junior

2229
01:37:57,439 --> 01:38:01,479
Speaker 2: at the very top, coming off the windrumv Bndora just

2230
01:38:01,520 --> 01:38:04,719
Speaker 2: had the second win over Zoo. Then you've got ericson Lubman,

2231
01:38:04,720 --> 01:38:07,200
Speaker 2: who's got a big fight coming up against who is it?

2232
01:38:07,200 --> 01:38:10,760
Speaker 2: It's Bakramrtizali. He's going to be a tire fight. Rtizaliev

2233
01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:12,840
Speaker 2: has one of the other belts. Terrence Crawford has a belt,

2234
01:38:12,840 --> 01:38:14,559
Speaker 2: but I don't really consider him in this division at

2235
01:38:14,560 --> 01:38:16,200
Speaker 2: this moment, although he said he might come back.

2236
01:38:16,439 --> 01:38:16,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, right.

2237
01:38:16,880 --> 01:38:20,080
Speaker 2: And then you've got who's the guy that dropped Virgil

2238
01:38:20,160 --> 01:38:26,560
Speaker 2: Artist twice. Ukrainian guy, I'm Waffler's guy. Boichuk Boichuk, Sir Bowichuk,

2239
01:38:26,760 --> 01:38:29,320
Speaker 2: another player at the very top of this division. This

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Speaker 2: division's freaking awesome. Jamel Charlow and Keith Thurman, two senior guys.

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01:38:33,360 --> 01:38:34,280
Speaker 2: I'm still looking for a.

2242
01:38:34,240 --> 01:38:36,439
Speaker 1: Big fight out there. Do you consider him at all

2243
01:38:36,479 --> 01:38:36,880
Speaker 1: a player?

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01:38:37,040 --> 01:38:40,280
Speaker 2: Eryl Spence another name throwing with those two old names.

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01:38:40,320 --> 01:38:42,640
Speaker 2: And then you've got Xanderzayas twenty two years old, just

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01:38:42,640 --> 01:38:45,960
Speaker 2: became the youngest male champion, didn't beat a killer. Some

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01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:50,679
Speaker 2: people thought he was too defensive and and b performance. Yeah,

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01:38:50,720 --> 01:38:52,479
Speaker 2: I'll give you that, but he is a player in

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01:38:52,520 --> 01:38:55,479
Speaker 2: this mix as well. Who's who's going to be standing

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Speaker 2: at the end of it right now, I'll put my

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01:38:57,320 --> 01:39:00,439
Speaker 2: money on I think it would. I think the finals,

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01:39:00,479 --> 01:39:02,120
Speaker 2: if there was a tournament, would come down to Boots

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01:39:02,479 --> 01:39:04,840
Speaker 2: and Virgil or if you made a tournament. Yeah, if

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01:39:04,840 --> 01:39:06,240
Speaker 2: Fundoor's a wildcard.

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Speaker 1: For Door's a wildcard, I totally agree. I've slept on him.

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01:39:08,280 --> 01:39:10,720
Speaker 1: He just keeps winning. What I although, the Mendoza win

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01:39:10,760 --> 01:39:12,360
Speaker 1: has hard me to like. Every time I see it,

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01:39:12,360 --> 01:39:13,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, how do people keep losing this fucking guy?

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01:39:13,960 --> 01:39:16,479
Speaker 1: But if you made a bracket, you'd have to put

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01:39:16,479 --> 01:39:20,040
Speaker 1: Boots and Virgil on opposite sides your bracket.

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Speaker 2: This is this, it's a great division. We'll see what

2262
01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:25,719
Speaker 2: happens there. What else you got jin from Kevin Mitchell

2263
01:39:25,760 --> 01:39:29,839
Speaker 2: underscore seven to nine? If you could transplant the Pride

2264
01:39:29,920 --> 01:39:34,080
Speaker 2: rule set into any current promotion, which one would benefit

2265
01:39:34,160 --> 01:39:36,519
Speaker 2: MOSTFL and would fans actually go for it? Let me

2266
01:39:36,520 --> 01:39:39,439
Speaker 2: add in that Habib had an interview and he said

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01:39:39,439 --> 01:39:41,920
Speaker 2: that he wished the UFC went to I believe he

2268
01:39:42,000 --> 01:39:44,759
Speaker 2: said either fifteen minute first round or in title fights,

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01:39:44,760 --> 01:39:47,160
Speaker 2: a twenty five minute first round. Just no rounds. It's

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01:39:47,200 --> 01:39:47,840
Speaker 2: basically just fight.

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01:39:47,880 --> 01:39:48,840
Speaker 1: You're right, Yeah, I don't like that.

2272
01:39:49,800 --> 01:39:51,760
Speaker 2: If we took the Pride rule set, including the round

2273
01:39:51,800 --> 01:39:55,400
Speaker 2: set up, including the barbaricness of it, you think PFL

2274
01:39:55,400 --> 01:39:56,240
Speaker 2: could benefit from him?

2275
01:39:56,320 --> 01:39:58,960
Speaker 1: You would need to be an alternative to the UFC.

2276
01:39:59,280 --> 01:40:01,519
Speaker 1: What better way to do that than have ten minute

2277
01:40:01,520 --> 01:40:07,599
Speaker 1: first rounds against having big theatrics also soccer kicks stomps

2278
01:40:07,880 --> 01:40:10,240
Speaker 1: score the fight as a whole, not round by round. Yes,

2279
01:40:10,280 --> 01:40:12,000
Speaker 1: you have rounds, but you don't score the rounds.

2280
01:40:12,080 --> 01:40:14,479
Speaker 2: Would you like messy trash talk and like b KFC

2281
01:40:14,560 --> 01:40:18,840
Speaker 2: style promotion. No can be profession style. Okay, I'm saying

2282
01:40:18,840 --> 01:40:20,680
Speaker 2: in the way you in the way you market and

2283
01:40:20,720 --> 01:40:24,639
Speaker 2: promote and like KFC is very like like white trash

2284
01:40:24,640 --> 01:40:25,240
Speaker 2: fight at some day.

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01:40:25,360 --> 01:40:27,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean people talking about swallowing seamen in their

2286
01:40:27,400 --> 01:40:29,360
Speaker 1: press conferences. No, you don't have to do any of that,

2287
01:40:29,479 --> 01:40:32,800
Speaker 1: but you you wouldn't. Again, you have to be an

2288
01:40:32,880 --> 01:40:36,800
Speaker 1: alternative to the UFC, not UFC light, No one, No

2289
01:40:36,800 --> 01:40:37,800
Speaker 1: one fucking wants that.

2290
01:40:38,080 --> 01:40:41,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, Donald's though, Don just got more investment money. You

2291
01:40:41,000 --> 01:40:44,360
Speaker 2: see that, A lot more investment from where I forgot who?

2292
01:40:44,439 --> 01:40:44,720
Speaker 2: From who?

2293
01:40:44,800 --> 01:40:45,599
Speaker 1: Do you see how much?

2294
01:40:45,960 --> 01:40:47,920
Speaker 2: Yeah? I forgot all the information that goes with that.

2295
01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:51,200
Speaker 2: But Don Davis had just brought in another big whale.

2296
01:40:51,200 --> 01:40:53,040
Speaker 1: If I mean they keeps they keep I'm not gonna

2297
01:40:53,040 --> 01:40:56,120
Speaker 1: say scamming investors, but they keep getting money from investors from.

2298
01:40:56,040 --> 01:40:57,759
Speaker 2: India, from India investment.

2299
01:40:57,840 --> 01:41:00,719
Speaker 1: They can't get the Hey, investors in the UFL, you're

2300
01:41:00,720 --> 01:41:01,920
Speaker 1: not getting that money back.

2301
01:41:02,080 --> 01:41:04,479
Speaker 2: Just so you know, interesting stuff right there? Do we

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01:41:04,520 --> 01:41:09,719
Speaker 2: have another one from these people? Oh from nang kissoor

2303
01:41:10,560 --> 01:41:12,479
Speaker 2: who would win in an m M A fight? Right

2304
01:41:12,520 --> 01:41:15,240
Speaker 2: now they're talking about this online. So Bellamir, the daughter

2305
01:41:15,280 --> 01:41:17,280
Speaker 2: of Frank Mere improved to four and oh over the weekend.

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01:41:17,600 --> 01:41:21,880
Speaker 2: Chicken wing chicken Chris ben Watta style cross wing chicken face,

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01:41:22,000 --> 01:41:22,920
Speaker 2: cross face chicken.

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01:41:23,080 --> 01:41:26,240
Speaker 1: That's a very gotta be careful invoking that name.

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01:41:26,240 --> 01:41:29,080
Speaker 2: And now Bella was asked about it at her press conference,

2310
01:41:29,200 --> 01:41:31,800
Speaker 2: the idea of fighting Maya Lesner.

2311
01:41:31,479 --> 01:41:33,320
Speaker 1: The wait class does Bellameir fight in?

2312
01:41:33,360 --> 01:41:36,559
Speaker 2: Do we know? I don't know, but Mir is interested.

2313
01:41:36,600 --> 01:41:39,320
Speaker 2: It would obviously be a continuation of the of the

2314
01:41:39,400 --> 01:41:42,519
Speaker 2: rivalry between their fathers. Did you see that Maya Lesner

2315
01:41:42,800 --> 01:41:43,720
Speaker 2: has uh.

2316
01:41:43,520 --> 01:41:45,680
Speaker 1: She's in a relationship.

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01:41:45,160 --> 01:41:46,920
Speaker 2: With with an NFL player yet yeh, yes, I don't

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01:41:46,920 --> 01:41:48,000
Speaker 2: know if they're those kids.

2319
01:41:48,120 --> 01:41:51,639
Speaker 1: Are those kids are going to be fucking hoss athletes,

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01:41:52,560 --> 01:41:57,519
Speaker 1: NCAA champion. I don't know, but she's obviously decorated. Yeah, yeah,

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01:41:57,600 --> 01:41:59,120
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know how to even answer this,

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01:41:59,400 --> 01:42:01,240
Speaker 1: you know, all banking you, Ben, I don't think this

2323
01:42:01,280 --> 01:42:06,639
Speaker 1: is quite like that. But Belamir looks interesting as a prospect.

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01:42:06,720 --> 01:42:08,960
Speaker 1: I'll say that she looks like she's got something interesting

2325
01:42:09,000 --> 01:42:09,400
Speaker 1: going on.

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01:42:09,520 --> 01:42:11,960
Speaker 2: Would you say the same thing about another amateur prospect?

2327
01:42:12,000 --> 01:42:14,200
Speaker 2: I wish I grabbed the photos of video I didn't,

2328
01:42:14,479 --> 01:42:16,840
Speaker 2: but he puts MK on the crotch. And his name

2329
01:42:16,920 --> 01:42:19,439
Speaker 2: is Christian Daguero. And over the weekend, did you see

2330
01:42:19,479 --> 01:42:21,880
Speaker 2: he won his final amateur fight. He's got the champions.

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01:42:21,880 --> 01:42:23,400
Speaker 1: I did some tape study for him recently.

2332
01:42:23,439 --> 01:42:24,959
Speaker 2: He's going to turn pro next.

2333
01:42:24,800 --> 01:42:26,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did some tape study for him.

2334
01:42:26,120 --> 01:42:27,240
Speaker 2: I love that he loved he.

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01:42:27,680 --> 01:42:27,840
Speaker 3: Uh.

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01:42:28,240 --> 01:42:29,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if he wants me to say this,

2337
01:42:29,360 --> 01:42:32,680
Speaker 1: but he sent me some footage of him sparring, and uh,

2338
01:42:33,120 --> 01:42:34,639
Speaker 1: I you know, did a little.

2339
01:42:34,400 --> 01:42:35,960
Speaker 2: Help for him putting that MK on the crotch.

2340
01:42:36,000 --> 01:42:37,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I gotta be honest. I don't know how

2341
01:42:37,280 --> 01:42:39,240
Speaker 1: much help I actually gave him, but I tried.

2342
01:42:39,040 --> 01:42:40,960
Speaker 2: Ahead of his pro debut. Let's get him on the show,

2343
01:42:40,960 --> 01:42:42,920
Speaker 2: all right. Love to love to talk to that guy.

2344
01:42:42,920 --> 01:42:44,479
Speaker 2: He's been with us from he he came to the

2345
01:42:44,479 --> 01:42:45,400
Speaker 2: three Margarita show.

2346
01:42:45,439 --> 01:42:46,960
Speaker 1: By the way, did he Oh that's where he did.

2347
01:42:46,960 --> 01:42:48,280
Speaker 2: I forgot him. He told me he's going to fight

2348
01:42:48,280 --> 01:42:49,479
Speaker 2: in the UFC one day, and I was like, you're

2349
01:42:49,520 --> 01:42:51,479
Speaker 2: damn right, all right, shout out to that.

2350
01:42:51,520 --> 01:42:54,120
Speaker 4: I just want to say Bellameir fights at one time.

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01:42:54,320 --> 01:42:54,720
Speaker 2: One Yeah.

2352
01:42:54,720 --> 01:42:56,320
Speaker 1: I don't know, and I don't do we know how

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01:42:56,400 --> 01:42:58,280
Speaker 1: much my als home. I'm wanna.

2354
01:42:58,280 --> 01:43:00,880
Speaker 2: Actually, I think I think my I had even said

2355
01:43:00,920 --> 01:43:03,719
Speaker 2: that she assumes. I'm sorry, I think Bella had said

2356
01:43:03,760 --> 01:43:05,840
Speaker 2: that she believes Maya's over two hundred pounds because of

2357
01:43:05,880 --> 01:43:06,360
Speaker 2: the muscles.

2358
01:43:07,000 --> 01:43:09,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Maya Lesner are looking at her track and

2359
01:43:09,439 --> 01:43:14,320
Speaker 1: field thing on she goes to Colorado State. Yes, they

2360
01:43:14,360 --> 01:43:17,439
Speaker 1: don't have they just have all of her wins and.

2361
01:43:17,720 --> 01:43:18,920
Speaker 2: Was like, they don't have height and wait for a

2362
01:43:18,960 --> 01:43:19,840
Speaker 2: young women, Well, I.

2363
01:43:19,840 --> 01:43:20,880
Speaker 1: Mean, I mean she's an athlete.

2364
01:43:20,880 --> 01:43:20,960
Speaker 3: Bro.

2365
01:43:21,040 --> 01:43:23,639
Speaker 1: Asking what they're height and weighted is not an unreasonable question.

2366
01:43:24,400 --> 01:43:26,760
Speaker 2: I ask women in their age though I don't know.

2367
01:43:26,840 --> 01:43:28,800
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know what it is. But anyway, Yeah,

2368
01:43:28,800 --> 01:43:32,439
Speaker 1: I'm not let bellamir have her own career, you know.

2369
01:43:32,600 --> 01:43:34,439
Speaker 2: And Maya Listner. Do you think Maya Lisner will end

2370
01:43:34,479 --> 01:43:37,360
Speaker 2: up getting into combat sports at all? I hope not. Okay,

2371
01:43:37,760 --> 01:43:39,799
Speaker 2: what about Rousey and Travis's kids.

2372
01:43:40,240 --> 01:43:46,760
Speaker 1: I haven't thought about it, right, what about Tisha and Rockies? Yeah,

2373
01:43:46,760 --> 01:43:48,960
Speaker 1: once again, these are not questions I've pondered.

2374
01:43:49,840 --> 01:43:51,920
Speaker 2: Hey, this is what I did on Sunday, guys. I

2375
01:43:52,479 --> 01:43:55,600
Speaker 2: went through the internet and I scoured the globe for

2376
01:43:55,640 --> 01:43:57,040
Speaker 2: the highs and lows, the good, the bad, the ugly,

2377
01:43:57,120 --> 01:43:58,840
Speaker 2: in the in between, in the worlds of combat sports

2378
01:43:58,880 --> 01:44:00,840
Speaker 2: and beyond. Now, I don't want to boast. I don't

2379
01:44:00,880 --> 01:44:03,760
Speaker 2: want to like call my shot Luke Thomas. But I

2380
01:44:03,840 --> 01:44:05,800
Speaker 2: told Nocita this is going to get an a from

2381
01:44:05,840 --> 01:44:06,639
Speaker 2: you today's patch.

2382
01:44:07,360 --> 01:44:08,120
Speaker 1: Let's see what you got.

2383
01:44:08,680 --> 01:44:10,880
Speaker 2: This is the kernels in my shit. Have you seen it?

2384
01:44:19,439 --> 01:44:22,040
Speaker 2: Luke rip to our childhood arrows. But we have the

2385
01:44:22,080 --> 01:44:25,000
Speaker 2: first picture of Hulk Hogan in heaven, Luke after his

2386
01:44:25,360 --> 01:44:28,200
Speaker 2: uh death at the age of seventy one. That's that's

2387
01:44:28,240 --> 01:44:31,800
Speaker 2: not acceptable, Okay, it's just wow. Wow.

2388
01:44:32,840 --> 01:44:35,680
Speaker 1: He loved the N word, didn't he. There was a time, Yes,

2389
01:44:35,960 --> 01:44:38,120
Speaker 1: a time you mean you mean the last forty years.

2390
01:44:38,360 --> 01:44:40,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a tough spot. I don't. I mean I

2391
01:44:40,479 --> 01:44:42,880
Speaker 2: didn't like more in it because he was kind of

2392
01:44:42,960 --> 01:44:43,880
Speaker 2: let me down as a fan.

2393
01:44:44,160 --> 01:44:46,360
Speaker 1: He was larger than life in the eighties. I remember

2394
01:44:46,400 --> 01:44:48,240
Speaker 1: my brother got for his birthday. Do you remember the

2395
01:44:48,280 --> 01:44:50,599
Speaker 1: hulkamani of workout set? Yeah, dude, I had a dumb

2396
01:44:50,680 --> 01:44:53,719
Speaker 1: bells I had to I had that. He was larger

2397
01:44:53,800 --> 01:44:56,599
Speaker 1: than life. But he loved the N word. That's the realcity.

2398
01:44:56,640 --> 01:44:59,439
Speaker 2: It happened. Also, we lost Ozzy Osbourne of Black Sabbath,

2399
01:44:59,479 --> 01:45:03,800
Speaker 2: Faith of Ola, Faith Metal, Faith of Biting bats, off

2400
01:45:03,960 --> 01:45:06,320
Speaker 2: of the heads, off of bats. Here's a tribute to him.

2401
01:45:07,120 --> 01:45:12,600
Speaker 9: Crazy Train songwriter Ozzy Osbourne died today, which is a

2402
01:45:12,720 --> 01:45:17,240
Speaker 9: coincidence because I had a crazy train ran on me

2403
01:45:17,800 --> 01:45:21,120
Speaker 9: by eight mentally ill black guys at the truck stop

2404
01:45:21,479 --> 01:45:22,160
Speaker 9: last night.

2405
01:45:22,400 --> 01:45:25,480
Speaker 1: Okay, that's that's very aggressive.

2406
01:45:28,320 --> 01:45:31,880
Speaker 2: Ozzy Osbourne. Apparently, Luke, let's go to Jeopardy. Did you

2407
01:45:31,920 --> 01:45:34,759
Speaker 2: see this question? It's presumed to be fourteen and boys

2408
01:45:34,800 --> 01:45:35,920
Speaker 2: and twelve in girls?

2409
01:45:36,600 --> 01:45:38,160
Speaker 9: Tom, what is the age of consent?

2410
01:45:38,520 --> 01:45:38,560
Speaker 3: No?

2411
01:45:39,560 --> 01:45:42,840
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, just wow, Tom, I'm going to have to

2412
01:45:42,920 --> 01:45:43,400
Speaker 1: leave the stage.

2413
01:45:43,600 --> 01:45:46,880
Speaker 2: All right, let's get flatulant, Luke. This is this would

2414
01:45:46,880 --> 01:45:50,040
Speaker 2: be you at a construction site. Yes, that was me

2415
01:45:50,160 --> 01:45:53,439
Speaker 2: this morning on the train, the damn train. Oh my god,

2416
01:45:53,520 --> 01:45:54,160
Speaker 2: that's discussion.

2417
01:45:54,160 --> 01:45:55,519
Speaker 1: Oh can I tell you one of my least favorite

2418
01:45:55,560 --> 01:45:59,960
Speaker 1: things about Europe? Okay, the days? No, the day would

2419
01:45:59,960 --> 01:46:03,280
Speaker 1: be great. First of all, my my my wife goes, oh,

2420
01:46:03,320 --> 01:46:04,960
Speaker 1: the bathrooms in Europe are so much better. I'm like,

2421
01:46:05,000 --> 01:46:06,679
Speaker 1: you're out of your mind. First of all, they don't

2422
01:46:06,720 --> 01:46:09,080
Speaker 1: use urinal cakes in the men's room, just the automatic

2423
01:46:09,160 --> 01:46:11,600
Speaker 1: red flag. But that's not my main complaint. My main

2424
01:46:11,680 --> 01:46:13,639
Speaker 1: complaint is that they make you wipe and then throw

2425
01:46:13,720 --> 01:46:15,960
Speaker 1: it in the garbage rather than in the toilet itself.

2426
01:46:16,600 --> 01:46:18,080
Speaker 1: Let me tell you I didn't listen to that at all.

2427
01:46:18,200 --> 01:46:20,960
Speaker 1: I threw it right in the fucking toilet. Oh, I

2428
01:46:21,000 --> 01:46:22,160
Speaker 1: didn't want to know any of you.

2429
01:46:22,560 --> 01:46:23,880
Speaker 2: Have you ever been in the backseat of a car

2430
01:46:23,920 --> 01:46:25,760
Speaker 2: when you had a crap and like your parents are like,

2431
01:46:25,800 --> 01:46:27,800
Speaker 2: don't crap in my car? Yeah? I one time ship

2432
01:46:27,880 --> 01:46:33,559
Speaker 2: my pants doing that? Really, this family, stop, quit, don't

2433
01:46:33,600 --> 01:46:44,599
Speaker 2: you car? We're not now in the car he grabbing crapping.

2434
01:46:44,720 --> 01:46:45,600
Speaker 1: I've literally done that.

2435
01:46:47,160 --> 01:46:50,760
Speaker 2: While hosting this show. You have okay? Uh? Also, Luke,

2436
01:46:51,120 --> 01:46:54,439
Speaker 2: why whyse words here from soccerate? You have respect for Socrates? Right,

2437
01:46:54,520 --> 01:46:55,639
Speaker 2: a great philosopher thinker.

2438
01:46:56,520 --> 01:46:58,280
Speaker 1: Well, i'd be okay, yes, go ahead, I'm gonna do

2439
01:46:58,280 --> 01:46:58,880
Speaker 1: a wo tang thing.

2440
01:46:58,920 --> 01:47:01,720
Speaker 2: But yes, they will forget in a day, but if

2441
01:47:01,760 --> 01:47:04,800
Speaker 2: you shoot yourself, they will remember for a lifetime. You

2442
01:47:04,920 --> 01:47:09,320
Speaker 2: gotta make big plays to be a big player. So crazy.

2443
01:47:09,320 --> 01:47:11,160
Speaker 1: I don't think that was Socrates. I think it was

2444
01:47:11,240 --> 01:47:12,880
Speaker 1: he was right, As they said in Bill and Ted's

2445
01:47:12,880 --> 01:47:14,040
Speaker 1: excellent adventure so crazy.

2446
01:47:14,080 --> 01:47:16,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just said, yeah, let's go to the hardwood. Here,

2447
01:47:16,200 --> 01:47:18,320
Speaker 2: here's your baller of the week. This comes from somewhere

2448
01:47:18,320 --> 01:47:24,439
Speaker 2: in Asia. Watch these moves. Oh shit, I don't know

2449
01:47:24,479 --> 01:47:28,120
Speaker 2: if that's the Philippines. But watch this game. Okay, all right,

2450
01:47:28,160 --> 01:47:31,000
Speaker 2: maybe just play the fucking game. Ask why why she's playing?

2451
01:47:31,360 --> 01:47:33,760
Speaker 2: Why player's gonna play?

2452
01:47:34,000 --> 01:47:34,200
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2453
01:47:34,880 --> 01:47:36,040
Speaker 2: Number sixty nine loves that.

2454
01:47:38,439 --> 01:47:39,360
Speaker 1: He seems delightful.

2455
01:47:39,479 --> 01:47:43,400
Speaker 2: All right, Luke, do you like basketball where everyone can play?

2456
01:47:43,520 --> 01:47:45,120
Speaker 1: Right, like intramural?

2457
01:47:45,479 --> 01:47:47,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, give everyone a chance. Let's watch this game.

2458
01:47:48,920 --> 01:47:51,160
Speaker 1: Oh oh is that traveling?

2459
01:47:59,520 --> 01:47:59,880
Speaker 6: All right?

2460
01:48:00,000 --> 01:48:04,200
Speaker 2: Hey, let's go to the I called it. I called it.

2461
01:48:04,560 --> 01:48:06,760
Speaker 2: Let's go to the soccer match. Watch the second deck

2462
01:48:06,800 --> 01:48:07,680
Speaker 2: here of the upper deck.

2463
01:48:07,920 --> 01:48:09,799
Speaker 1: Fucking hell, gotta be careful.

2464
01:48:10,680 --> 01:48:15,439
Speaker 2: Yeah there, Oh god, we just added to the death toll. Well,

2465
01:48:15,520 --> 01:48:17,600
Speaker 2: you know what, I think. Ten people just died on

2466
01:48:17,680 --> 01:48:18,639
Speaker 2: the show. That's something.

2467
01:48:18,720 --> 01:48:18,840
Speaker 7: Here.

2468
01:48:19,120 --> 01:48:21,639
Speaker 2: Let's go to Big John Fury, father of Tyson, talking

2469
01:48:21,680 --> 01:48:24,280
Speaker 2: about the idea of Jake Paul and a j boxing.

2470
01:48:24,520 --> 01:48:27,559
Speaker 2: So say he's got a million pounds on Jake Paul knocking.

2471
01:48:28,120 --> 01:48:32,639
Speaker 2: I'm saying, how does that work? And Joshua could knock

2472
01:48:32,760 --> 01:48:36,120
Speaker 2: Jake Paul true or false.

2473
01:48:39,200 --> 01:48:41,519
Speaker 1: I don't want to see it, Okay, I wouldn't pay

2474
01:48:41,560 --> 01:48:41,760
Speaker 1: for it.

2475
01:48:42,520 --> 01:48:44,400
Speaker 2: Okay, we've got ko's of the week, though. I think

2476
01:48:44,400 --> 01:48:47,080
Speaker 2: you're gonna want to see this. Watch this bartender and

2477
01:48:47,240 --> 01:48:48,280
Speaker 2: watch the patron and the.

2478
01:48:48,320 --> 01:48:50,280
Speaker 1: Forty bartenders left of the right.

2479
01:48:50,800 --> 01:48:56,439
Speaker 2: Uh that gout right there. Watch him. You don't mess

2480
01:48:56,479 --> 01:48:58,200
Speaker 2: with certain bartenders. Luke Thomas knows.

2481
01:49:00,880 --> 01:49:08,120
Speaker 1: Oh wow, wow, So my man, my man walked behind

2482
01:49:08,200 --> 01:49:08,719
Speaker 1: the ball.

2483
01:49:09,040 --> 01:49:09,760
Speaker 2: And bumped him.

2484
01:49:10,080 --> 01:49:11,360
Speaker 1: Oh, he just bo.

2485
01:49:12,880 --> 01:49:14,160
Speaker 2: So you can't go back there. It's like when the

2486
01:49:14,200 --> 01:49:18,320
Speaker 2: fans jump into Yeah you know that as a former

2487
01:49:18,439 --> 01:49:22,360
Speaker 2: bar back and former door worker. Yeah, Joe Rogan knows

2488
01:49:22,400 --> 01:49:24,599
Speaker 2: that because he dresses like those guys. It ever UFC

2489
01:49:24,800 --> 01:49:27,640
Speaker 2: card All right, uh look, let's watch this soccer fan.

2490
01:49:27,720 --> 01:49:29,280
Speaker 2: This is also one of the ko's of the week.

2491
01:49:29,680 --> 01:49:35,240
Speaker 2: Check out this soccer fan follow the ball. Oh damn man,

2492
01:49:35,400 --> 01:49:37,160
Speaker 2: he stayed standing though, all right, he got that. He

2493
01:49:37,240 --> 01:49:40,599
Speaker 2: took the standing a count right there. Okaikes, so far

2494
01:49:40,720 --> 01:49:42,840
Speaker 2: this is not an a Okay, well, then let's call

2495
01:49:42,920 --> 01:49:45,240
Speaker 2: in from the bullpen. Here's weird cake lady. She's back

2496
01:49:45,320 --> 01:49:45,840
Speaker 2: from friends.

2497
01:49:46,360 --> 01:49:53,920
Speaker 1: Absolute shit bag. Oh my god, bitch, please stop stop, Yeah,

2498
01:49:54,000 --> 01:49:58,120
Speaker 1: why don't you, why don't you? You unbelievable fucking weirdo.

2499
01:49:58,280 --> 01:49:59,920
Speaker 2: How closer are we to her? Just cutting a dow

2500
01:50:00,200 --> 01:50:03,680
Speaker 2: off and taking a big buddy cake, Luke, dude, she

2501
01:50:03,880 --> 01:50:08,439
Speaker 2: looks like, let's go to the yearbook quote of the week.

2502
01:50:09,520 --> 01:50:11,280
Speaker 1: I'm going to end up in jail or working at

2503
01:50:11,320 --> 01:50:14,240
Speaker 1: olive garden. Either way, endless salads are getting tossed. Okay,

2504
01:50:14,479 --> 01:50:16,639
Speaker 1: all right, so far it's get.

2505
01:50:16,600 --> 01:50:19,040
Speaker 2: To a D plus grade from Luke Thomas. Well, let's

2506
01:50:19,040 --> 01:50:22,479
Speaker 2: do it one to ten. Let's time. It's time to

2507
01:50:22,640 --> 01:50:25,759
Speaker 2: rate that tat Bruce Lee up first, Luke.

2508
01:50:25,600 --> 01:50:28,599
Speaker 1: What do you think I had eighty million people send

2509
01:50:28,680 --> 01:50:28,840
Speaker 1: me this.

2510
01:50:28,960 --> 01:50:30,920
Speaker 2: We'll give us a one to ten because it's pretty inventive.

2511
01:50:31,160 --> 01:50:35,000
Speaker 10: Negative eight billion, get out of here, negative eight billion,

2512
01:50:35,080 --> 01:50:38,320
Speaker 10: six negative nine billion, now that you bring it up,

2513
01:50:38,439 --> 01:50:42,400
Speaker 10: A terrible stupid tattoo for dumb fucks everywhere.

2514
01:50:42,520 --> 01:50:44,200
Speaker 1: Congratulations, ass wipe.

2515
01:50:44,600 --> 01:50:47,400
Speaker 2: Wow, I'm shocked now, I mean, you give mister why.

2516
01:50:47,200 --> 01:50:49,400
Speaker 1: Would this, why would this in any way be cool?

2517
01:50:49,600 --> 01:50:52,439
Speaker 2: Would you rather have mister Hebos's tattoo of Emily with

2518
01:50:52,560 --> 01:50:56,280
Speaker 2: my honest yes? Okay, let's go to the plane ahead

2519
01:50:56,320 --> 01:50:58,439
Speaker 2: tweet let's tat. Let's see if you can rate this

2520
01:50:58,800 --> 01:51:08,559
Speaker 2: plan two? Two? All right, all right, some people put

2521
01:51:08,600 --> 01:51:10,800
Speaker 2: their childhood on their body. Luke, rate this from one

2522
01:51:10,880 --> 01:51:13,320
Speaker 2: to ten. If here, if you're a big home alone

2523
01:51:13,520 --> 01:51:15,120
Speaker 2: and or Yankees.

2524
01:51:14,720 --> 01:51:19,760
Speaker 1: Fan, so that's actually pretty well done. I wouldn't want it,

2525
01:51:20,160 --> 01:51:26,600
Speaker 1: but it's not a poor tattoo. Six Maybe okay.

2526
01:51:26,760 --> 01:51:29,679
Speaker 2: We'll take that, Luke. Let's go to the baseball stadium.

2527
01:51:30,360 --> 01:51:32,960
Speaker 2: Will this one day be the true test of our friendship?

2528
01:51:33,000 --> 01:51:33,400
Speaker 2: In your eyes?

2529
01:51:33,439 --> 01:51:36,759
Speaker 1: Would you do this? Here? Are they going to smooch

2530
01:51:36,800 --> 01:51:37,519
Speaker 1: at the end of this day?

2531
01:51:37,560 --> 01:51:39,559
Speaker 2: I know what happens when they get to the end,

2532
01:51:39,640 --> 01:51:41,200
Speaker 2: but I might want to sit her on and watch.

2533
01:51:41,320 --> 01:51:43,280
Speaker 2: Wolde we got to get one of those that would

2534
01:51:43,320 --> 01:51:45,040
Speaker 2: I mean, all the people that wanted to do we

2535
01:51:45,120 --> 01:51:49,800
Speaker 2: do if we got to the ends? Oh no, this

2536
01:51:50,040 --> 01:51:52,400
Speaker 2: is weird. Now it got weird, Luke. You know what

2537
01:51:52,560 --> 01:51:56,719
Speaker 2: can happen at Regional MMA, right anything? Anything can happen.

2538
01:51:56,800 --> 01:51:59,559
Speaker 2: Here's your Regional MMA post fight Interviews of the week.

2539
01:51:59,640 --> 01:52:02,280
Speaker 2: Check out this new training plan. So I'm heavy?

2540
01:52:03,080 --> 01:52:03,840
Speaker 3: So you're heavy? Is that?

2541
01:52:03,880 --> 01:52:06,160
Speaker 1: How are you gonna celebrate the victory tonight?

2542
01:52:06,760 --> 01:52:08,240
Speaker 5: Craig Cocaine and Hugues.

2543
01:52:11,080 --> 01:52:13,840
Speaker 2: Looked. Everybody was all in on that, like your favorite fighter.

2544
01:52:14,000 --> 01:52:16,840
Speaker 2: All right, we got one more for you. This fighter

2545
01:52:16,880 --> 01:52:17,599
Speaker 2: hates women, Luke.

2546
01:52:17,800 --> 01:52:19,080
Speaker 5: That shit happens to me all the time.

2547
01:52:19,200 --> 01:52:20,000
Speaker 11: I'm used to this ship.

2548
01:52:20,080 --> 01:52:22,759
Speaker 2: I'm fucking train with great book. He's a fucking Thieway,

2549
01:52:22,840 --> 01:52:28,120
Speaker 2: mother fucking I'm fucking heartbroken, t out the only reason

2550
01:52:28,160 --> 01:52:30,160
Speaker 2: I got into this sport. Let's get these.

2551
01:52:30,040 --> 01:52:31,280
Speaker 3: Fucking stupid girls.

2552
01:52:31,439 --> 01:52:34,200
Speaker 2: I wanna kick fucking breaking my fucking art and my

2553
01:52:34,280 --> 01:52:40,640
Speaker 2: grandma fucking died. Yeah, I'm so fuck off. Well it

2554
01:52:40,760 --> 01:52:44,759
Speaker 2: was very impressive. The bull again your winner.

2555
01:52:44,920 --> 01:52:45,679
Speaker 5: I ain't burrella.

2556
01:52:47,240 --> 01:52:48,720
Speaker 2: It's a bolt strategy tow.

2557
01:52:49,080 --> 01:52:51,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't imagine why women wouldn't be flocking to

2558
01:52:51,520 --> 01:52:52,479
Speaker 1: his front door.

2559
01:52:52,720 --> 01:52:55,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, indeed, smoke him if you got him time. You

2560
01:52:55,160 --> 01:52:56,640
Speaker 2: always got to be looking in the background of these

2561
01:52:56,680 --> 01:52:58,879
Speaker 2: local news clips. Look at the fella on the deck.

2562
01:52:58,800 --> 01:52:59,800
Speaker 1: Up there is that a ball?

2563
01:53:00,040 --> 01:53:00,719
Speaker 2: That is a bomb?

2564
01:53:01,080 --> 01:53:02,840
Speaker 1: Well, that's an American hero. Where is this?

2565
01:53:04,320 --> 01:53:06,479
Speaker 2: Where is this? This looks very California like to me.

2566
01:53:06,560 --> 01:53:09,120
Speaker 1: But I've palm trees and ship. That's all. That's amazing.

2567
01:53:09,320 --> 01:53:11,760
Speaker 2: That's good stuff there, Uh, Luke, Sometimes you just got

2568
01:53:11,920 --> 01:53:17,200
Speaker 2: to dive into your dreams here like this, fella, what

2569
01:53:17,400 --> 01:53:18,120
Speaker 2: is that weed?

2570
01:53:19,320 --> 01:53:24,439
Speaker 1: That's marijuana? Yes, oh my god, I'd like to do

2571
01:53:24,560 --> 01:53:24,960
Speaker 1: that naked.

2572
01:53:25,000 --> 01:53:29,720
Speaker 2: How about you? Where was that? I don't know, but

2573
01:53:29,800 --> 01:53:31,800
Speaker 2: I want to go there. Shirts of the Week time,

2574
01:53:32,000 --> 01:53:35,080
Speaker 2: Let's see if this can save our our failing ship.

2575
01:53:34,960 --> 01:53:40,559
Speaker 1: Right here, mouths don't get Okay, this gentleman is quite delightful.

2576
01:53:40,760 --> 01:53:42,840
Speaker 2: Okay, I keep skipping clips. Can we go back to

2577
01:53:42,920 --> 01:53:44,680
Speaker 2: the other weed one I got right here? Luke, this

2578
01:53:44,880 --> 01:53:47,000
Speaker 2: is a what it looks like. Everyone's like, what are

2579
01:53:47,040 --> 01:53:49,599
Speaker 2: your pre show MK meetings? Like, let's let's by guys.

2580
01:53:51,200 --> 01:53:54,280
Speaker 2: We gotta we gotta repair the space ship. Guys ready,

2581
01:53:55,320 --> 01:54:04,800
Speaker 2: they're already. This is ken beer. I'm not look you

2582
01:54:04,880 --> 01:54:06,200
Speaker 2: and me right when you go here right.

2583
01:54:10,400 --> 01:54:11,960
Speaker 1: Dah, my man already tapped out.

2584
01:54:15,000 --> 01:54:15,719
Speaker 2: I'm not kidding.

2585
01:54:16,000 --> 01:54:19,360
Speaker 1: You would have to get me to sign like a

2586
01:54:19,479 --> 01:54:21,840
Speaker 1: power of attorney before doing that because I'm not taking

2587
01:54:21,880 --> 01:54:25,479
Speaker 1: that thing off. I'm not taking I'm not taking the

2588
01:54:25,520 --> 01:54:28,479
Speaker 1: helmet all Yeah, I'm wearing nothing until the wheels fall off.

2589
01:54:28,479 --> 01:54:30,360
Speaker 2: In your t shirts of the week, we have the

2590
01:54:30,439 --> 01:54:32,320
Speaker 2: mouths don't get. Yeah, we got that one. Let's go

2591
01:54:32,360 --> 01:54:34,560
Speaker 2: to this next one, Luke nostalgic music fans here.

2592
01:54:34,680 --> 01:54:36,960
Speaker 1: I got I'm going to read it. I got pegged

2593
01:54:36,960 --> 01:54:39,240
Speaker 1: at a Creed concert, and I pegged my man at

2594
01:54:39,280 --> 01:54:42,640
Speaker 1: a Creed. Okay, where is a drive by shooter when.

2595
01:54:42,560 --> 01:54:45,280
Speaker 2: You need one? Let's go to grandma here, she's got

2596
01:54:45,400 --> 01:54:47,200
Speaker 2: the uh bonus hat of the week.

2597
01:54:48,400 --> 01:54:51,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's I believe they might be photoshops.

2598
01:54:52,360 --> 01:54:55,240
Speaker 1: Did I get a Why don't you photoshops and teeth

2599
01:54:55,320 --> 01:54:57,000
Speaker 1: on this fucking gremlin? Good lord?

2600
01:54:58,800 --> 01:55:01,920
Speaker 2: All right, Uh, let's go to the next one. I

2601
01:55:02,040 --> 01:55:03,960
Speaker 2: have no idea what it is. Miss.

2602
01:55:04,480 --> 01:55:06,840
Speaker 4: Are you concerned at all about nuclear weapons being built

2603
01:55:06,880 --> 01:55:07,560
Speaker 4: in North Korea?

2604
01:55:08,400 --> 01:55:08,600
Speaker 2: Yes?

2605
01:55:09,120 --> 01:55:10,400
Speaker 5: You think we should put sanctions on them?

2606
01:55:10,440 --> 01:55:11,120
Speaker 2: You think that'll work?

2607
01:55:11,360 --> 01:55:12,240
Speaker 3: No? Why not?

2608
01:55:12,880 --> 01:55:14,240
Speaker 9: I really don't have to time of the red button?

2609
01:55:14,280 --> 01:55:14,600
Speaker 7: Now you know?

2610
01:55:14,840 --> 01:55:20,920
Speaker 3: Oh? All right?

2611
01:55:21,040 --> 01:55:22,800
Speaker 1: Speaking of that was cool but funny.

2612
01:55:22,920 --> 01:55:25,040
Speaker 2: Okay, it's ok for your Grandma's of the week. Let's

2613
01:55:25,080 --> 01:55:26,800
Speaker 2: go to the men's room some.

2614
01:55:27,000 --> 01:55:28,840
Speaker 11: Birthday to day he talked about dad, can you take

2615
01:55:28,880 --> 01:55:32,280
Speaker 11: her to the movies? Ma'am, you're in a male's bathroom.

2616
01:55:35,200 --> 01:55:37,200
Speaker 11: Why is a female in a male's bathroom?

2617
01:55:37,320 --> 01:55:38,400
Speaker 1: Why is he counting money?

2618
01:55:40,040 --> 01:55:40,320
Speaker 8: Let's go.

2619
01:55:42,760 --> 01:55:45,560
Speaker 1: Who the fuck takes a selfie video in the fucking

2620
01:55:45,680 --> 01:55:46,640
Speaker 1: bathroom like that.

2621
01:55:47,920 --> 01:55:50,040
Speaker 2: Don't mess with grandma in the drive through, or.

2622
01:55:50,040 --> 01:55:54,200
Speaker 1: Do you see her walking out? Her life expectancy is Thursday, especially.

2623
01:55:53,880 --> 01:55:55,680
Speaker 2: If she fucked this next grandma, let's watch this.

2624
01:55:57,680 --> 01:55:58,880
Speaker 1: Oh she went to drive through?

2625
01:56:00,320 --> 01:56:01,160
Speaker 2: Oh how y'all going?

2626
01:56:01,200 --> 01:56:01,640
Speaker 8: I'm sorry?

2627
01:56:04,280 --> 01:56:04,440
Speaker 3: Good?

2628
01:56:04,480 --> 01:56:10,320
Speaker 1: How you doing? T you tell that fat bitch your name?

2629
01:56:10,600 --> 01:56:12,640
Speaker 3: My daughter gonna come down here and whoop with fat ass.

2630
01:56:13,040 --> 01:56:16,200
Speaker 2: You gotta know that because you disrespect me and I'm

2631
01:56:16,560 --> 01:56:17,520
Speaker 2: to be your grandma.

2632
01:56:17,280 --> 01:56:19,720
Speaker 10: Telling my daughter got whoop up, fat ass.

2633
01:56:26,400 --> 01:56:26,600
Speaker 3: Dude.

2634
01:56:26,600 --> 01:56:27,480
Speaker 2: The old people don't give me.

2635
01:56:30,680 --> 01:56:33,000
Speaker 1: First of all, based on their accents, that sounded like Maryland.

2636
01:56:34,480 --> 01:56:37,320
Speaker 1: That lady is amazing. More fist fights is what I

2637
01:56:37,360 --> 01:56:37,800
Speaker 1: want to see.

2638
01:56:38,080 --> 01:56:39,960
Speaker 2: We closed this week with your joke of the week

2639
01:56:40,040 --> 01:56:41,400
Speaker 2: from Charlem and the God.

2640
01:56:41,760 --> 01:56:44,120
Speaker 1: When you first got the information, did you ever see yourself?

2641
01:56:44,400 --> 01:56:52,920
Speaker 2: It was that nasty bit from Sacramento. Well you okay,

2642
01:56:52,960 --> 01:56:55,280
Speaker 2: maybe we didn't hit. It was asking about the aids. Yeah,

2643
01:56:55,280 --> 01:56:58,160
Speaker 2: he did ask whether hive fare? That is, uh, that's

2644
01:56:58,200 --> 01:57:02,280
Speaker 2: something right there. What are you gonna great, Luke, Come on,

2645
01:57:02,520 --> 01:57:04,760
Speaker 2: I thought that one had potential. Long onlan Luca, what

2646
01:57:04,880 --> 01:57:05,600
Speaker 2: was you grade that one?

2647
01:57:06,480 --> 01:57:08,280
Speaker 4: I mean, Luke, Luke's got to react good to it

2648
01:57:08,480 --> 01:57:10,640
Speaker 4: for to have a high grade. So I'll go B minus.

2649
01:57:11,040 --> 01:57:15,480
Speaker 2: I will tell you the traveling was right on Morningcombat

2650
01:57:15,480 --> 01:57:17,640
Speaker 2: at gmail dot com to reach the show. Let's make

2651
01:57:17,760 --> 01:57:20,520
Speaker 2: fan subs great again this Friday. Also, you're dead wrongs

2652
01:57:20,920 --> 01:57:22,720
Speaker 2: or maybe just reach out and complain whatever you got

2653
01:57:22,800 --> 01:57:25,400
Speaker 2: for us, you can do that. Just don't show your

2654
01:57:25,480 --> 01:57:30,000
Speaker 2: dong please, Morningcombat dot shop. If you want to dress

2655
01:57:30,120 --> 01:57:32,320
Speaker 2: like us, Okay, what are you wearing today? Oh, you're

2656
01:57:32,320 --> 01:57:34,040
Speaker 2: wearing the bomber Jack. I like, yeah, I don't.

2657
01:57:34,360 --> 01:57:35,520
Speaker 1: We don't sell these right now, do we.

2658
01:57:35,640 --> 01:57:36,840
Speaker 2: We don't currently sell these.

2659
01:57:36,960 --> 01:57:39,320
Speaker 1: No, you know we will soon, I'd hope.

2660
01:57:39,480 --> 01:57:42,480
Speaker 2: I'd like to again. Uh final days here in July

2661
01:57:43,000 --> 01:57:45,440
Speaker 2: for the new releases of this month, and they will

2662
01:57:45,520 --> 01:57:47,840
Speaker 2: not be back. So if you want a three Margarita shirt,

2663
01:57:47,880 --> 01:57:50,960
Speaker 2: a BC technical thriller, or the signed or unsigned the

2664
01:57:51,000 --> 01:57:55,920
Speaker 2: Lucha poster, order now Morningcombat dot Shop. We also sell

2665
01:57:56,000 --> 01:57:58,280
Speaker 2: coffee mugs and all the and a lot of other

2666
01:57:58,360 --> 01:58:00,440
Speaker 2: great stuff. All of the proceeds, by the way, go

2667
01:58:00,640 --> 01:58:03,280
Speaker 2: to Long Island Luke, Luke Thomas and myself BC.

2668
01:58:03,640 --> 01:58:05,000
Speaker 1: I want to get that grizzy, and we got to

2669
01:58:05,040 --> 01:58:06,520
Speaker 1: share it and see what happens in the middle.

2670
01:58:06,600 --> 01:58:08,480
Speaker 2: We'll just go full on Lady in the Tramp.

2671
01:58:08,320 --> 01:58:09,720
Speaker 1: And just see what happens right in the middle.

2672
01:58:09,720 --> 01:58:12,240
Speaker 2: I don't know, that's uh, that's not I don't Yeah.

2673
01:58:12,840 --> 01:58:14,400
Speaker 2: I mean for the for the fans, for the for

2674
01:58:14,520 --> 01:58:16,720
Speaker 2: the fans, right, that's right. That's it. That's it for

2675
01:58:16,840 --> 01:58:19,720
Speaker 2: the fans Long Island, Luke. Can can we expect anything

2676
01:58:19,720 --> 01:58:21,120
Speaker 2: from you this week on the main card minute?

2677
01:58:21,440 --> 01:58:23,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll be doing a watch along on Saturday.

2678
01:58:23,160 --> 01:58:25,280
Speaker 4: Also, we got this last minute main event now, so

2679
01:58:25,400 --> 01:58:27,840
Speaker 4: my my bet breakdown might be a little delayed this week.

2680
01:58:28,080 --> 01:58:29,240
Speaker 5: Okay, we'll get it out either way.

2681
01:58:29,400 --> 01:58:32,080
Speaker 2: All those great fans of your show, including the just bladed,

2682
01:58:32,360 --> 01:58:37,040
Speaker 2: just blayed, Radio Cruise Shop, the Big Sandine guy, Dave

2683
01:58:37,640 --> 01:58:42,920
Speaker 2: Yes m yeah, yes, once bought, once bought a once

2684
01:58:43,000 --> 01:58:44,240
Speaker 2: bought a Woman of the night. But it's not like

2685
01:58:44,320 --> 01:58:45,160
Speaker 2: we reference that every time.

2686
01:58:45,240 --> 01:58:46,800
Speaker 1: I cannot tell you how many guys I know that

2687
01:58:46,880 --> 01:58:50,160
Speaker 1: have bought hohores. It is much more than you would imagine.

2688
01:58:50,280 --> 01:58:51,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and many.

2689
01:58:51,480 --> 01:58:54,200
Speaker 1: I never suspected until I remember one time told them like,

2690
01:58:54,200 --> 01:58:55,640
Speaker 1: oh I knew a bunch of Marines who bought horries

2691
01:58:55,640 --> 01:58:58,560
Speaker 1: and they're like, well, this one time I traveled internationally

2692
01:58:58,600 --> 01:59:01,440
Speaker 1: and I'm like, you bought horse a bunch of guys.

2693
01:59:01,800 --> 01:59:05,040
Speaker 2: I went to Montreal for New Year's Eve of two thousand,

2694
01:59:05,160 --> 01:59:07,320
Speaker 2: not ninety nine into two thousand, but the next year

2695
01:59:07,440 --> 01:59:10,720
Speaker 2: constitution I don't know. But when I came back to

2696
01:59:10,800 --> 01:59:13,560
Speaker 2: my job, then the next Monday morning, there was this

2697
01:59:13,720 --> 01:59:18,080
Speaker 2: guy Abdul and he was like incredulous that I did

2698
01:59:18,160 --> 01:59:21,040
Speaker 2: not purchase couldn't believe it. I just was like, why

2699
01:59:21,080 --> 01:59:21,280
Speaker 2: did you?

2700
01:59:21,440 --> 01:59:22,760
Speaker 1: He basically was like why why would you.

2701
01:59:22,760 --> 01:59:25,480
Speaker 2: Go to Montreal? If? I was just like, all right,

2702
01:59:25,560 --> 01:59:27,080
Speaker 2: I didn't have that on my I mean I was

2703
01:59:27,120 --> 01:59:29,560
Speaker 2: close to that activity. I was pretty close to that activity.

2704
01:59:29,600 --> 01:59:31,640
Speaker 1: But yeah, I know a bunch of guys who did it.

2705
01:59:32,000 --> 01:59:33,640
Speaker 2: The other part too. They would do it like women.

2706
01:59:33,680 --> 01:59:37,720
Speaker 1: You would just why this got weird? It definitely like

2707
01:59:37,800 --> 01:59:47,520
Speaker 1: how is that better than touching yourself? I don't know, Wow,

2708
01:59:47,680 --> 01:59:49,240
Speaker 1: you could be honest, I've seen some of these women

2709
01:59:49,320 --> 01:59:51,839
Speaker 1: and that were like, you know, you know, negative threes,

2710
01:59:51,920 --> 01:59:52,360
Speaker 1: and it's.

2711
01:59:52,280 --> 01:59:52,920
Speaker 2: Like how is that?

2712
01:59:53,520 --> 01:59:54,320
Speaker 1: How is that better?

2713
01:59:54,800 --> 01:59:56,840
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know how it's better but

2714
01:59:57,040 --> 02:00:00,120
Speaker 2: that's the show that we got this week, So it

2715
02:00:00,200 --> 02:00:01,160
Speaker 2: was great reuniting with you.

2716
02:00:01,360 --> 02:00:03,920
Speaker 1: They should I watch pornography on my laptop on the

2717
02:00:03,960 --> 02:00:04,360
Speaker 1: train ride.

2718
02:00:04,720 --> 02:00:07,600
Speaker 2: You should not. That's disgusting. I don't think we have

2719
02:00:07,680 --> 02:00:08,480
Speaker 2: anything else to say.

2720
02:00:08,560 --> 02:00:10,560
Speaker 1: What if it's like tender on they hugg each follow us.

2721
02:00:10,560 --> 02:00:13,000
Speaker 2: Below on the socials. On the Uh oh anything going

2722
02:00:13,080 --> 02:00:15,440
Speaker 2: on on Luke Thomas? Get's political because you've been blowing

2723
02:00:15,480 --> 02:00:15,840
Speaker 2: up lately.

2724
02:00:16,480 --> 02:00:18,000
Speaker 1: Obviously took a long week off. Yeah. I may have

2725
02:00:18,040 --> 02:00:21,240
Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff on that and and uh yeah, I.

2726
02:00:21,240 --> 02:00:23,760
Speaker 2: Don't know anything Epstein related.

2727
02:00:24,120 --> 02:00:25,240
Speaker 1: Uh nothing yet.

2728
02:00:25,440 --> 02:00:28,680
Speaker 2: I mean you know weird? Does that story is? Yeah,

2729
02:00:28,720 --> 02:00:29,400
Speaker 2: it's pretty weird.

2730
02:00:29,560 --> 02:00:32,640
Speaker 1: During the show, Gallainne Maxwell's attorneys are asking the Supreme

2731
02:00:32,680 --> 02:00:35,320
Speaker 1: Court to overturn her conviction.

2732
02:00:35,600 --> 02:00:38,840
Speaker 2: So that's fun. Would you agree with those people that say, well,

2733
02:00:39,080 --> 02:00:43,080
Speaker 2: if if Hunter Biden gets to walk, then she can walk.

2734
02:00:43,200 --> 02:00:45,080
Speaker 1: His interview with Channel five was fun, was it not?

2735
02:00:45,480 --> 02:00:45,680
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2736
02:00:46,000 --> 02:00:46,240
Speaker 2: Dude?

2737
02:00:46,440 --> 02:00:47,960
Speaker 1: Was he not a connoisseur of crack?

2738
02:00:48,600 --> 02:00:50,800
Speaker 2: He in fact at a motel in my hometown as

2739
02:00:50,840 --> 02:00:52,800
Speaker 2: we often talk about it. Oh, that's Ryan enjoyed both

2740
02:00:52,880 --> 02:00:54,120
Speaker 2: crack and and hookers.

2741
02:00:54,200 --> 02:00:57,200
Speaker 1: Yes, he's been living life, brother. I don't think he hasn't.

2742
02:00:57,360 --> 02:00:59,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe they do. You think he could become a

2743
02:00:59,080 --> 02:00:59,800
Speaker 2: president one day?

2744
02:01:00,280 --> 02:01:02,840
Speaker 1: Got I hope, well, probably yes, but I hope not.

2745
02:01:03,600 --> 02:01:05,960
Speaker 2: Well, that's enough political talk for the week. This was

2746
02:01:06,040 --> 02:01:08,320
Speaker 2: morning combat. Nobody brings it like we do. We'll be

2747
02:01:08,440 --> 02:01:10,720
Speaker 2: back Friday eleven am to set the stage for the

2748
02:01:10,760 --> 02:01:13,280
Speaker 2: weekend to come, hopefully. Is there any box this weekend?

2749
02:01:13,720 --> 02:01:15,280
Speaker 1: And I don't mean the pornography you're watching.

2750
02:01:15,360 --> 02:01:16,360
Speaker 2: I don't think there's any.

2751
02:01:16,480 --> 02:01:16,600
Speaker 3: Uh.

2752
02:01:16,640 --> 02:01:19,040
Speaker 2: I think there's one fight and I forgot it offhand,

2753
02:01:19,080 --> 02:01:21,120
Speaker 2: so I don't know nothing. I don't think there's anything.

2754
02:01:21,080 --> 02:01:25,440
Speaker 1: Nothing of significance. No, I think actually the UFCBJJ is Thursday, right,

2755
02:01:25,560 --> 02:01:26,080
Speaker 1: first half.

2756
02:01:25,960 --> 02:01:27,720
Speaker 2: Of this month is pretty dead for all combat to

2757
02:01:27,760 --> 02:01:29,120
Speaker 2: be fair until the UFC three.

2758
02:01:29,240 --> 02:01:32,840
Speaker 1: I think there's UFCBJJ two coming up. Long on Luke,

2759
02:01:32,840 --> 02:01:33,600
Speaker 1: Am I wrong about that?

2760
02:01:34,120 --> 02:01:35,000
Speaker 5: I haven't really been paying.

2761
02:01:35,360 --> 02:01:38,440
Speaker 2: No One really likes scrappling likes it's like it's it's

2762
02:01:38,480 --> 02:01:40,800
Speaker 2: like it's part it's part of a larger It's sort

2763
02:01:40,840 --> 02:01:42,839
Speaker 2: of like like I like sour cream, but I wouldn't

2764
02:01:42,840 --> 02:01:44,520
Speaker 2: eat it by the spoonful, right. I needed to be

2765
02:01:44,600 --> 02:01:47,120
Speaker 2: like on like a taco. So to me, BJJ is

2766
02:01:47,200 --> 02:01:52,760
Speaker 2: a is a condiment two fighting in general. MMA.

2767
02:01:53,120 --> 02:01:57,160
Speaker 1: So it's like ketchup on them straight, ketchup?

2768
02:01:57,240 --> 02:01:58,360
Speaker 2: No, No, you know what I mean.

2769
02:01:58,800 --> 02:02:00,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a pretty bad an noow.

2770
02:02:00,200 --> 02:02:03,040
Speaker 2: You with tequila. You need to chase Sorry, it's fine,

2771
02:02:05,240 --> 02:02:06,280
Speaker 2: It is all right, that's el.

2772
02:02:06,600 --> 02:02:07,320
Speaker 1: When's your birthday?

2773
02:02:07,960 --> 02:02:08,800
Speaker 2: It was Friday.

2774
02:02:09,080 --> 02:02:10,000
Speaker 1: I missed your birthday.

2775
02:02:10,160 --> 02:02:13,920
Speaker 2: Yours is coming up the sure, so I'm so sorry. Wow,

2776
02:02:14,360 --> 02:02:15,640
Speaker 2: but you'll be forty six.

2777
02:02:16,000 --> 02:02:17,440
Speaker 1: I knew it was run around this time. I'm so

2778
02:02:17,560 --> 02:02:18,800
Speaker 1: sorry I missed a happy birthday.

2779
02:02:18,800 --> 02:02:19,520
Speaker 2: Thank you very much.

2780
02:02:19,840 --> 02:02:21,280
Speaker 1: Also, did they do anything on the show for you?

2781
02:02:22,080 --> 02:02:24,360
Speaker 2: They shouted me out. But we had Mike Bone on, Yeah,

2782
02:02:24,440 --> 02:02:26,600
Speaker 2: and we did. We played that getting to know Mike Bone,

2783
02:02:26,880 --> 02:02:28,760
Speaker 2: get to know Mike Bone better game, okay, and we

2784
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Speaker 2: got the inside scoop on that check. On the plane.

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Speaker 1: You definitely made out with her.

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Speaker 2: Right, definitely did. Yeah, it definitely happened.

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Speaker 1: That's what never happened to me.

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, but but what he what he articulated, which

2789
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Speaker 2: is the key here. The plane was about to take

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Speaker 2: off and then they had to go back and they

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Speaker 2: had to get off the plane. But then during the

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Speaker 2: delay before the planet. There they went to the bar

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Speaker 2: together and they connected, you know, and the alcohol, alcohol

2794
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Speaker 2: was flowing.

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Speaker 1: Man, fuck Mike Bond.

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Speaker 2: He ain't sh shout out to Mike Bone. Are we

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Speaker 2: still alive? Hey, this was b C n LT show.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back on Friday. Take care of yourself. Why

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Speaker 2: they are think