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Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: All Right, welcome into another week of One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you here on a Monday,

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Speaker 2: rocking and rolling with some news that just crossed a

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Speaker 2: short time ago. Right before we came on the air,

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Speaker 2: ESPN's Adam Schefter reporting at Bill's nickel corner, Tarren Johnson

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Speaker 2: has agreed to terms on a three year contract extension

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Speaker 2: that will make him the highest paid nickel corner in

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Speaker 2: the league. Reported three years, thirty one million dollars. We

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Speaker 2: had mentioned this on last week's show that if the

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Speaker 2: Bills are going to try to create some more cap space,

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Speaker 2: Taron Johnson was the next most likely candidate, at age

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Speaker 2: twenty eight and in the last year of his deal

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Speaker 2: here in the twenty four season, coming up an extension

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Speaker 2: just simply made too much sense. Because his cap hit

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Speaker 2: this year was twelve point four million dollars. You would assume,

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Speaker 2: and I think it's safe to assume that the Bills,

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Speaker 2: instructuring this new extension for Taron Johnson, reduced that cap

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Speaker 2: figure considerably, maybe even cut it in half. That would

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Speaker 2: be great because then you're saving about six million on

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Speaker 2: the cap that would be great news. But congrats to

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Speaker 2: Tarran who is coming off a career high ninety eight

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Speaker 2: tackle season and also had three force fumbles on the year,

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Speaker 2: eight pass breakups. Really a monster player up near the

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Speaker 2: line of scrimmage for one hundred and ninety two pound

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Speaker 2: guy like pound for pound, be hard pressed to find

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and our good friend Greg Cosell and other people

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Speaker 3: who have been on the show. Greg mostly though kind

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Speaker 3: of turned us on early on and Terran's career here

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Speaker 3: about how unique he was because of their ability to

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Speaker 3: stay in that nickel defense in all situations. Now, we

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Speaker 3: also heard some analysts people were when Leslie Fraser was

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Speaker 3: the defensive coordinator, and of course now that Sean mcdermot's

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Speaker 3: the defensive coordinator, teams were trying to scheme and in

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Speaker 3: order to get the bills out of that eleven personnel,

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Speaker 3: trying to get him into some other formation, and they

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Speaker 3: would pick on Tarran in the running game. They'd run

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Speaker 3: a guard, they'd pull a guard around trying to get him.

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Speaker 3: Isoed on a guard all the time, and they'd lose.

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Speaker 3: I mean they lose. Arran was just too much of

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Speaker 3: a competitor to get beat like that. So all these

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Speaker 3: analys that we talked to who watch film and grind

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Speaker 3: it away, they all gush about the difference Tarren makes

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Speaker 3: in the Bill's defense and what the freedom he gives

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Speaker 3: the coordinators to stay in a defensive personnel set and

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Speaker 3: to use him in so many different ways. So congratulations

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Speaker 3: to Tarren. He's well deserved, well deserved, I mean the guy,

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Speaker 3: and he continues to be a tremendous player for the

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Speaker 3: Bills despite I mean helped. I don't even know as

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Speaker 3: he'd gone to the Pro Bowl as a nickel.

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Speaker 2: No, but he was second team All Pro last year.

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Speaker 3: Right, He second team All Pro last year, So he's

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Speaker 3: starting to get a little bit of recognition. But that's

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Speaker 3: a guy who has been tremendous since the day he

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Speaker 3: got here and has made a name for himself, not

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Speaker 3: only with Bills fans, but the NFL people.

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Speaker 2: Last week, when we saw Indianapolis free agent Kenny Moore

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Speaker 2: signing a three year, thirty million dollar extension last week,

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Speaker 2: we told you keep an eye out because that has

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Speaker 2: now set the bar for a contract extension for Taron Johnson,

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Speaker 2: and we're assuming that this is going to give them

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Speaker 2: know it's only a three year extension here, but you

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Speaker 2: can for all intents and purposes, and the way Adam

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Speaker 2: Schefter is reporting it, it's going to run through twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty seven. So this so that's twenty five, twenty six,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's it's on top of this contract.

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Speaker 3: So they're gonna finish this contract out. What the specifics are,

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Speaker 3: we don't know yet. Yeah, but they can move this money.

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Speaker 3: This year is the point somewhere into those next three

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Speaker 3: today and spread it out, spread it out and will

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Speaker 3: don't know the specifics of it, but congratulations to Taron

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Speaker 2: He's he's the veterans, the veteran.

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Speaker 3: don't want to go as here either, right, Tredavius is

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Speaker 3: so get your get a guy who's been here in

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Speaker 3: That's seen a little bit of turnover this year. Right.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of Treudevius White, Uh, there was a report over

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Speaker 2: As we know, he was a salary cap casualty here

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Speaker 2: and is also recovering from a torn achilles, which probably

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Speaker 2: in terms of future playing career. But it's nice to

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Speaker 2: hear that he's getting out there and garnering some interest.

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Speaker 3: He has not played his last football in the NFL,

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Speaker 3: that's for sure. And you know, I mean, there's nobody

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Speaker 3: doesn't wish Trenevius White all yehest I mean, goodness, gracious,

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's one of the things. You get

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Speaker 2: So we'll keep an eye on that. There were also

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Speaker 2: for those that don't know Sebastian Joseph Day was released

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Speaker 2: So he then was picked up by San Francis and

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Speaker 2: played the rest of the year for the forty nine Ers,

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Speaker 2: heard him making any other visits elsewhere, although who knows,

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Speaker 2: maybe that stuff just doesn't leak out from other teams.

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Speaker 2: But interesting to see that they're still on the hunt

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Speaker 2: for more defensive line help because from a numbers standpoint,

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Speaker 3: And well, I mean, this is going to go on

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Speaker 3: see the Bills have Let's see they have how many

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, players on the roster, under contract, players under contract.

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Speaker 3: Seven last week something, So they're getting there. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: Fill it out. Gonna be an arduous process, and who knows,

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Speaker 2: So because we had heard last week, you know that

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Speaker 2: Now there's other news around the NFL, which is brought

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Speaker 2: to you by Kalida Healthy, official healthcare system of the

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Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills. This just coming down a few minutes ago.

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Speaker 2: Cowboys starting linebacker Leyton Vandersch is medically retiring from football

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Speaker 2: kind of unfortunate for him. After just six seasons, a

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Speaker 2: the weekend, and now you know it comes down that

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Speaker 2: he has met retired from football. Owner Jerry Jones said quote,

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Speaker 2: We're proud that he wore the star on his helmet.

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Speaker 2: Despite all the safety measures that exist and have been

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Speaker 2: last ten years, it is still a brutal and barbaric

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Speaker 3: More so than at any point in history. You're seeing

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Speaker 3: Guys are just saying, you know what, I got enough.

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Speaker 3: I've had enough. The money's getting bigger and bigger, and

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Speaker 3: it's getting bigger and bigger further down the roster. And

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Speaker 3: there were times back in the day, back in the

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Speaker 3: nineteen sixties, nineteen seventies, you guys just you never saw

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Speaker 2: The general consensus now is one through four it's going

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Speaker 3: So that gets you to like a ten.

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Speaker 3: So you got teams too like New Well, New England's

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Speaker 2: The quarterbacks on their roster, Jared Stidham and Ben Denucci,

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Speaker 3: Way. You've got to get a guy.

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Speaker 3: They gotta get a guy. Yes, now they desperately playing

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Speaker 2: Some people are gaga for JJ McCarthy, that's the word

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Speaker 3: But Mike Pennix from Washington is we both like him.

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Speaker 3: Well yeah, but you're gonna there's not gonna They're not

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Speaker 2: Maybe let's attack this from the other end. Who is

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Speaker 2: they are. Maybe New England is still cuckoo for cocoa

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: If I'm the Giants, if Mike Pennix is on the board,

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Speaker 2: You can't tell me you're I mean, Daniel Jones. It's

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Speaker 3: He is not it.

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Speaker 2: And I said that two years ago, twhen he threw

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Speaker 3: Fifteen so bad.

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Speaker 2: It makes zero sense. I know they kind of I

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Speaker 3: You got to do it.

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Speaker 2: And well, they can't get out from under the contract

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Speaker 3: Well, whatever level of desperation they are, in Minnesota's got

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Speaker 3: But here's the thing. Let me say this, nobody more

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Speaker 3: he's also the dude that was in New Orleans when

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Speaker 3: win now, win now. He may do that in Denver.

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Speaker 3: Next year's two and the year after's number one, And

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Speaker 3: let's go next year's number one and the year after

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Speaker 2: It might only take two ones to get up there,

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Speaker 3: Maybe they're gonna, maybe they're gonna. So I think Denver's not.

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Speaker 2: What I'm saying is, if I'm on the other end

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Speaker 2: give you next year's one two, that's probably enough to

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm the Chargers at five, I don't need a quarterback,

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Speaker 2: and I'm I'm only sliding back seven spots and I

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Next, I'll take it. Give me a one next year

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Speaker 2: round one next.

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Speaker 3: Year, right, I'm thinking, what do you do if you're

435
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:13,119
Speaker 3: a division team? Do you trade with a division team

436
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:14,119
Speaker 3: of that nature?

437
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 2: I don't think it matters to Sean Payton. I gotta

438
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,359
Speaker 2: get my guy. Yeah, and if I have a shred

439
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 2: of evidence that the Giants are taking the fourth quarterback,

440
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,920
Speaker 2: I got to get to five. I mean, ideally I'll

441
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 2: go to four, so there's no debate.

442
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 3: What about Yeah, what about Arizona? Do you call Arizona?

443
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,120
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you got to start there because you want

444
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 2: to leave no wiggle room in between you and New England.

445
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:40,119
Speaker 3: So yeah, you got to talk to Arizona first. And

446
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 3: I bet you that's Denver will do. Sean Payton has

447
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 3: done that. Oh he doesn't care. He cashes. He pushes

448
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 3: everything to the table, in the middle of the table

449
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 3: all the time. Every year. Yeah, every off season. New

450
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 3: Orleans still isn't out of that that hole. I don't know.

451
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 3: They're not out of that hole.

452
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Speaker 2: I don't think.

453
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Speaker 4: So.

454
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Denver is whatever it takes to get up there.

455
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 3: Denver may do it because they're because Sean Payton has

456
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 3: proven himself that. But Minnesota's got buckets of David and

457
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 3: listen in this draft right, which means the general manager in.

458
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Speaker 2: Arizona and Arizona already has a second first round pick,

459
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Speaker 2: they're down at twenty seven.

460
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Speaker 3: So if so, if Arizona you get, you talk to

461
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Speaker 3: Arizona if you're gonna jump up to there. Arizona saying listen,

462
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 3: and the GM out there is saying, Lo, I don't

463
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Speaker 3: need I might I'll be here next year, or I

464
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 3: might have be here in two years.

465
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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, he just got the job last year.

466
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Speaker 3: But yeah, give me, give me all I can have.

467
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Speaker 2: Well, they need they need bodies in Arizona. That's why

468
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Speaker 2: it's attractive, even though they pick four in twenty seven. Yeah,

469
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 2: you get a call from Minnesota. They say, we'll give

470
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Speaker 2: you three first round picks because now you have eleven,

471
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Speaker 2: twenty three, and twenty seven.

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Speaker 3: Right, So that's if you're a GM, you want they

473
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Speaker 3: want to now you want it now? Yeah, you don't,

474
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Speaker 3: And it makes a lot of sense. Don't don't send

475
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Speaker 3: me wrong. It's not unattractive to get a first rounder

476
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Speaker 3: next year, but you know, this is always the year

477
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 3: where you're thinking, Okay, give it to me. But because

478
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 3: you know next year you got a draft pick for

479
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Speaker 3: the next GM. That's always the mentality. Although you're right

480
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 3: that gym on in Arizona's probably still on his honeymoon phase.

481
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 3: I'm it's interesting because we go through this every year,

482
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 3: and actually I don't remember going through it this much.

483
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 3: When we were we had two first rounds and we

484
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,640
Speaker 3: had to get up to get Josh. I mean, this

485
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 3: is this is why the draft is so intriguing for

486
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 3: so it's it's its own cottage industry around the NFL.

487
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Speaker 2: There's an innumerable amount of variables that can take place

488
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Speaker 2: leading up to the draft and the night of the draft.

489
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Speaker 3: It's amazing, but I'm selling and.

490
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Speaker 2: All those permutations change with each successive pick.

491
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Speaker 3: If Newing. If everything was as it were has been,

492
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Speaker 3: New England would be the incredible wild card in the

493
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Speaker 3: thing because Bill Belichick is apt to trade out to

494
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Speaker 3: take a center or yeah, to take some guess to

495
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 3: take Cole Strange or or trade back and instead of whatever.

496
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 3: And now with Gerard Mayo and a new game in

497
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Speaker 3: New England, I'm it can't be like the wolf. They're

498
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 3: going to get back on the rails, I think on

499
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Speaker 3: Draft Day and I think they will take best player available,

500
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Speaker 3: and if it's the quarterback or whatever, I think it'll be,

501
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 3: that's who it's going to be. But it's going to

502
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 3: be one of the qbs. And I wouldn't be surprised

503
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Speaker 3: if if even New England flip flops with Washington. Uh

504
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:43,360
Speaker 3: that kind of stuff. But that's You're looking at three

505
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 3: teams at the top of this draft, all of whom

506
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,159
Speaker 3: won a quarterback and fourth in there, and there is

507
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,919
Speaker 3: quarterbacks to be had in this draft that would warrant

508
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 3: that kind of pick. So after that, then you've got

509
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 3: the most the best player in the draft AFT is

510
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,640
Speaker 3: a wide receiver, which seems a cut and dried fit

511
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 3: for Arizona, and what they're kind of get.

512
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Speaker 2: Although now the talk is mylik Neighbors might be moving past.

513
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 3: Now our leak Neighbors maybe better than it.

514
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 2: Might be the top receiver in the class well by

515
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 2: teams standards. You know, we have all the draft knicks

516
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 2: out there that you know, SA Marvin Harrison Junior is

517
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,120
Speaker 2: the best. And it's sounding as though as a lot

518
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 2: of these draft knicks are talking to teams more often

519
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 2: than not, they're saying, Neighbors is the top receiver on

520
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:35,199
Speaker 2: my board. Now we should also remember it's lying season.

521
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 2: That is true, and we could have some teams maybe

522
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 2: putting out some false narratives on purpose, hoping that Harrison

523
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 2: falls to them. Right, That's always something to consider as well.

524
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Speaker 2: But let's get to the phones at eight oh three

525
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 2: five point fifty one eight eight eighty five point fifty two,

526
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 2: five fifty as we are asking you, why would the

527
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 2: Bills be able to stay at twenty eight and still

528
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 2: get their guy leading us off today? Is Jay in Buffalo?

529
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Speaker 3: What's up? Jay?

530
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 5: It is it Judy from Buffalo?

531
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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, now see they put in Jay here in Buffalo,

532
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:08,919
Speaker 2: and it sounds like it's Judy to me.

533
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 5: Okay, you know, you know I've been advocating for the

534
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 5: last three two years that the Bills did nothing to

535
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 5: help Josh Allen. They needed to draft receivers. Okay, if

536
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 5: they do nothing this year, they need to draft find them.

537
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 5: I don't care who, what round, whatever, get receivers. Kansas

538
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:38,479
Speaker 5: City drafted a receiver the first round, rice they went

539
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 5: to the Super Bowl. La Rams drafted a receiver I

540
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 5: don't know the third, fifth round. He made them relevant again.

541
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Speaker 5: And lord knows, the Green Bay Packers have done nothing

542
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 5: in the last two three years but draft receivers because

543
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 5: they knew they had a quarterback in love.

544
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Speaker 2: Yeah, ends, Yeah, you're right.

545
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 5: I don't care where they are graft receivers to help

546
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 5: Josh Allen. And my my last question is are the

547
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 5: Digs in a position to put or are the Bills

548
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 5: in a position to put Digs up.

549
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 4: On the market.

550
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 5: If so, would anybody really pick him up? Because I

551
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 5: don't think he's a number one receiver any longer. Okay,

552
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 5: that's my last comment.

553
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 3: All right, thanks? You think Judy, Judy is the wide

554
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 3: receiver train engineer today. She is blowing the horn, she's

555
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 3: leaning on it. Uh, you're yes, I get it. And

556
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 3: I'll say this too. There's a there's a lot of

557
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 3: different and some of it is draft mechanics and where

558
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 3: you pick and is there a guy there and all

559
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 3: of that stuff, because sometimes your pick comes up in

560
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 3: the draft and the receiver you want isn't You're not

561
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:52,959
Speaker 3: gonna waste that pick on this guy. You can get

562
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 3: him later and then you rin value doesn't fit the pick, Yeah,

563
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 3: then you don't get him. I get that. I'm I'm

564
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 3: with you, Judy. The Bill I think should come out

565
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 3: of this draft. If they pick all eleven picks, three

566
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 3: of them got to be wide outs. I don't care

567
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 3: whatever wherever, because you could get a Puka Nakua and

568
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 3: in the what is a fifth round, fifth rounder you

569
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 3: can find one of those dudes.

570
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 2: And the Bills have done that is an example of that.

571
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 3: Right, So I'm I'm all about it, I'm I'm with

572
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 3: you and I But then two, it's tough even though

573
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 3: they're NFL teams like the like the teams you mentioned,

574
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 3: the Packers and the Chiefs, their NFL teams. They got

575
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 3: quarterbacks they like and dah da da da dah and

576
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 3: they're all it. Every team's different, and it's hard to

577
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 3: it's hard to compare why the built the Chiefs roster

578
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 3: is built the way it is with the way the

579
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 3: Packers rosters built and the way the Bills rosters build

580
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 3: because the opportunities they have to sign guys and draft guys,

581
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 3: and the philosophy and the kind of guys they got

582
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 3: in the room other than that quarterback. So I'm I'm

583
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 3: with you. I think, as a feral philosophy, if you

584
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 3: got a quarterback like Josh, you got a quarterback like Pat,

585
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 3: you got a quarterback like Jordan Love or any of

586
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 3: the other guys. Yeah, give them the weapons they need,

587
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 3: and even first and foremost, give them an offensive line.

588
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 3: So that's first. But the Bills have that in place.

589
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 3: And I'm and I so, I'm with you, Judy, you

590
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 3: got to come out of this draft, I think with

591
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 3: three guys at wide receiver and hopefully one of them

592
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 3: can want just one can get on the field.

593
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Speaker 2: And concerning Diggs, it's difficult for them to get out

594
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 2: from under that contract, even with a trade because of

595
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 2: the cap hit they would incur wouldn't be as severe

596
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 2: as if they just cut them out right, but it

597
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 2: would be difficult to do that after all the work

598
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 2: they did to clear cap space. Next year could be

599
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 2: a different story because there's as it's a little more

600
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 2: palatable to undertake something like that. Although there is a

601
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 2: guarantee for his salary for next year that kicks in

602
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 2: this year, which can be debated as well. I don't

603
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 2: want to get in the weeds on that, but there

604
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 2: are some things in place that might make it difficulty

605
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 2: even next year, depending on how things shake out this summer.

606
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 2: And then finally, I will say, in defense of the

607
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 2: Bills personnel department, they did get players that helped Josh,

608
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 2: Dalton Kincaid and Osiris Torrance with their first two selections.

609
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 2: Both of those players helped Josh in far different ways,

610
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 2: but they both helped him last year. And the jury

611
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 2: is still out on Justin Shorter because we don't know

612
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 2: what they have in him yet since he never took

613
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,719
Speaker 2: the field in the regular season. Eighth, three h five

614
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 2: fifty the number to get on board. Why will the

615
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 2: Bills be able to stay at twenty eight and still

616
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 2: get their guy? You let us know there as we

617
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Speaker 2: are wide open for phone calls next here on One

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Speaker 2: Bill's Live. Stay tuned, all right, Welcome to One Bills Live.

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Speaker 2: Chris Brown Steve's tasking with you here on a Monday,

620
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Speaker 2: where we are talking draft and why you think the

621
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Speaker 2: Bills will be able to stay at number twenty eight

622
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 2: and still get their guy. If you disagree, he can

623
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Speaker 2: tell us why as well. Eight O three oh five

624
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Speaker 2: fifty one eighty eight five fifty two five fifty. You

625
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 2: got a line or two open for you there. But

626
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 2: we go back to the phones and we lead off

627
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Speaker 2: with Mark in Jersey City.

628
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 3: What's up?

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Speaker 6: Mark, Good afternoon, gentlemen. I think you were being conservative there.

630
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 6: Chris with the tackles. I think there's going to be

631
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Speaker 6: like seven or eight.

632
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Speaker 2: Not live wow, make me happy.

633
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Speaker 6: And the center and the Oregon Stoner Powers Johnson, you

634
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 6: can throw him in there. But I think what I know,

635
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 6: Steve's a big fan the way these teams are scratching

636
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 6: and con for the quarterback. I think Pennix has a

637
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 6: chance to be that sixth guy. I think so too,

638
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 6: maybe the fifth, maybe ahead of Knicks, maybe behind next.

639
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,719
Speaker 6: Just the way it's falling, that's okay. That gives us twelve.

640
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 6: There's going to be what three edge rushers, There's going

641
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 6: to be three corners at least the three, the Big three,

642
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 6: the wide receivers. That's I just named nine. So now

643
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 6: you're getting down into the single digits. That might enable

644
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 6: them to make a move to go up and get

645
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 6: a guy that they want, whether it's Thomas, whether it's Mitchell.

646
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 6: I really think they're gonna have a look at a

647
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 6: guy that they like a lot, just because of the

648
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 6: glut of quarterbacks and tackles.

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00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 3: Right, if you get into the if you get into

650
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 3: the single digits and you get to like say pick

651
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 3: twenty and because then then it's Pittsburgh, they may take

652
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 3: a wide out Miami maybe maybe not depends Philly, Yeah,

653
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 3: they may. Minnesota they're they're gonna be one of the

654
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 3: teams that probably jumps up to get out of that.

655
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 3: And whoever takes that spot that they got from Cleveland

656
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 3: at twenty three may want a wide out. Dallas may

657
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:57,760
Speaker 3: take a wide out Green Bay, Tampa, and Arizona, depending

658
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 3: on what Arizona does.

659
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 2: Pittsbury's taking alignment, you think, yeah, they need a line help, Okay,

660
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 2: I mean they could take a receiver. I know they

661
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 2: traded Deontae Johnson. I get it.

662
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 3: Point is you get down there that teams are gonna

663
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 3: try and make themselves before the draft as flexible as

664
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:17,280
Speaker 3: possible because they know there's so many permutations above them.

665
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 3: The closer you get to twenty eight, like the Bills,

666
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 3: you don't know who's going to be available, So you

667
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 3: got to make sure that you can take a good

668
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 3: guy there, no matter what the position he is, or

669
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 3: as much you know, as little consideration to the position

670
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 3: as you can, just pick the best pro. So that's

671
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 3: where a lot of these teams are going to be

672
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 3: when they get from twenty to twenty eight, where the

673
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 3: Bills are.

674
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they may and the Bills may still have

675
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 2: to move up. If they have a receiver, they cover it,

676
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 2: they may still have to make a move. But if

677
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,240
Speaker 2: all of this stuff kind of falls as we anticipated,

678
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 2: will I feel even better than ever that they're going

679
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 2: to get a very very good player it picked twenty eight.

680
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 2: It may not be a receiver, because I think a

681
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 2: pivot point here, you know, fourth receiver comes off the

682
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 2: board perhaps and the Bills can't get up to get

683
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 2: maybe the fifth best guy, and that guy comes off

684
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 2: the board too, You're staring at one of the best

685
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 2: defensive tackles in the class, like square in the face,

686
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,879
Speaker 2: you know, like a Johnny Newton from Illinois or something

687
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 2: like that, like yes, please, right, you know, that's a

688
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 2: pretty damn good consolation.

689
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 3: And it's gonna be a little bit like it was

690
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 3: last year where the Bills get out there, Oh what

691
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 3: are you gonna and you get Dalton Kincaid, And I

692
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 3: gotta be honest, I didn't know who Dalton Kincaid was

693
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 3: that much. And then you see the Bills drafted him,

694
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 3: and the guys on the TV, and I get it,

695
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 3: they're just like us. They kind of have some information

696
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 3: on all of it, and they're going, oh my gosh, Well,

697
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 3: if you're gonna give Dalton kin kid to the Bills,

698
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 3: you get what you deserve. That guy can go. It

699
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 3: was Daniel Jeremid right, So we're sitting there going, oh sweet,

700
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,240
Speaker 3: And it turned out he was right. I trade Kincaid.

701
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 2: He had the highest catch rate in college football and

702
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 2: that kind of bared itself out last sure, and so you're.

703
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 3: Gonna get a guy like that, But the problem is

704
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 3: he may not catch the ball. He may block, you know,

705
00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 3: or tackle you know. So it's control. You gotta know

706
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 3: if they even if they pick at twenty eight and

707
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 3: it's not a wide receiver, the guy that gets gonna

708
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 3: be a quality guy, and you just kind of have

709
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,919
Speaker 3: to like, all right, then you know, you just wait

710
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 3: your turn. I don't think there's any way even if

711
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 3: they don't take a wide out at twenty eight, there's

712
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 3: no way they walk away from this draft without three

713
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 3: of those guys.

714
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 2: If they keep all eleven.

715
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 3: You're saying, if they if they pick eleven times three

716
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 3: of them are going to be a wide out.

717
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 2: Three of them may also be defensive lineman.

718
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 3: Right, and then yeah, right, and then you may you

719
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 3: may end up you know, just all of us will

720
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 3: be hoping for a Puka Nakua type guy, you know,

721
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 3: a guy that comes out and explodes.

722
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I think any team in the league

723
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 2: would hope for a guy like that. Over one hundred

724
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 2: catches as a rookie.

725
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 3: Good, they're out there, they're out now. Some of that

726
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 3: comes from being with Sean McVay and Matt Stafford in LA.

727
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 3: I mean, Pooka Nicoua is not going to catch a

728
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 3: hundred balls with Chicago last year. So you know that,

729
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 3: and that's that's just the reality of it.

730
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 2: Blinding spot is just as important.

731
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 3: Yes, So that's part of it.

732
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 4: As well.

733
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 2: Let's get back to the phone. He's got a lot

734
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 2: of people waiting here, so let's try to move through

735
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 2: these calls quickly. So give us your points and move along.

736
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 2: We go to Butcher on the east side next here.

737
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 3: What you got Butch?

738
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 4: First of all, gentleman, First of all, good afternoon, Thanks

739
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 4: so much to take my car. I got a couple

740
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 4: of feeds to say, and I'm gonna move real fast

741
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 4: like you want everybody else to do. But I have

742
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 4: to say this to all the fans out there that

743
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 4: some of the Buffalo Bill's players along the Bills organizations

744
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 4: who reached out on my media and also in my

745
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 4: Gmail to wish we have your birthday today, I want

746
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 4: to tell you thank you so much and I greatly

747
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 4: appreciate I love each and every one of you out there. Secondly,

748
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,760
Speaker 4: I have something to say of tell the Steve Tasker

749
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 4: this past weekend. I had to go to a funeral

750
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 4: this past weekend and I saw it for board family

751
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:54,280
Speaker 4: of Delano's mom and dad, and I told them exactly

752
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 4: what you said, and they told me to tell you

753
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 4: that it's mutual. They still have your phone number and

754
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 4: that they love to tap your family love Luke. I

755
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 4: want to just share that with Steve. Thirdly, I just

756
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 4: want to move forward about my point. My point is

757
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 4: with the twenty years selection, I still believe they're going

758
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 4: to move back, but I think, like you guys, just

759
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 4: say it's going to be a quality athlete, quality player

760
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 4: there for the Buffalo Bills, and I really believe they're

761
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 4: going to do that. And then, last, but not least,

762
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 4: I'm gonna move to this last point and it's a

763
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 4: very important point, and it's just for everybody and for

764
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 4: educational purposes who don't understand culture. Sometimes you don't understand language.

765
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,760
Speaker 4: Sometime we'll see a player like stef Fande saying a language,

766
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 4: saying a word like whatever and really don't understand it.

767
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 4: And we were speaking about this this past Saturday about

768
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 4: that particular word, and that word means I'm ready for

769
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,439
Speaker 4: everything that's coming. I'm ready for the season. I'm ready

770
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 4: for the people who go to line up against me.

771
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,280
Speaker 4: I'm ready to help me get my team to the SHUMERMO.

772
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 4: I'm whatever ready. I'm always gonna be whatever ready, which

773
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 4: every NFL player who gets paid my organization should be ready.

774
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 4: So please do not take this word and think that

775
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 4: he doesn't like the Bills organization. With that to bed,

776
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 4: I know this is young man. I'm gonna hang up

777
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 4: on this point.

778
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,479
Speaker 3: Don't hang up, but don't hang up. I got something.

779
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 4: Go ahead, okay, thank you. I want to I'm gonna

780
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,240
Speaker 4: say this to you. Is that to get a yellow jacket?

781
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 4: Is one guy that I got this finish speaking to

782
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 4: me right now. See taggers only when it should have

783
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 4: they don't have when it should have one.

784
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 7: In order for.

785
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 4: Stefan Days to get the yellow jack he has to

786
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 4: stay with the bubble, his organization, and stay with a

787
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 4: Josh Allen for the rest of rest of his career

788
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:26,800
Speaker 4: to move forward.

789
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 3: But thank you so much for Hey, butch is today

790
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 3: your birthday?

791
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 4: Yes it is.

792
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 3: Well think about this. You share a birthday with none

793
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 3: other than Chris Brown, my co or my co host

794
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 3: right here today's too. How about that?

795
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 2: And Eric Wood for that?

796
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 3: Eric? Who would who would ever thought?

797
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 4: Because you know what Tay thumbsday when you were playing

798
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 4: right and Chris started to builds digests, I used to

799
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 4: always call the hit. I always reach out to Chris

800
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 4: him and out of battle. Sometime in the early boy

801
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 4: we were younger, and then when we had the build's

802
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 4: message board. You know, I'll put the things on the

803
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 4: wheel go back and forth. But you know what, Chris,

804
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 4: happy birthday to you man. You're a Saint Patty's kid

805
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 4: like I am. I am very fortunate. I went the

806
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 4: Bishop time in high school with the Irish, with all

807
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 4: my Irish brothers and brothers, and my Mercy out there

808
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 4: and Jimmy and Jimmy, Jimmy Griffin is my guy to

809
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 4: this day. I went ahead and graduated from Kimsington High

810
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 4: School and I just wanted to just say to all

811
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 4: of the Saint Patty's kids, to all the three eighteens

812
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 4: as I call them, I love you guys, man, and

813
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 4: thank you so much for taking my call. I love

814
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 4: that G. I love thank you so much that I

815
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 4: love WG. I love all the fans.

816
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 3: All right, thanks birthday buddy there who knows? Yeah that

817
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 3: is that's awesome. So yeah, today is Chris. Everybody out

818
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 3: there and who listened to one. Today's Chris's birthday. Don't

819
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 3: like birthday? Thanks and now we found out Butch Butch too,

820
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 3: look at that. That is awesome. A regular caller of

821
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 3: the show. That's nice.

822
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 2: Uh, we got we will get to more of these calls,

823
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 2: but we are up against the break here, so I

824
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 2: want to give you guys enough time. So Mike and

825
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 2: Easter Orora, Jack and Cheek to Rick in Southern cal.

826
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 2: You're up next when we return here on One Bill's Live,

827
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 2: presented by Coll Lot of Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

828
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 2: Back here on One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

829
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 2: with you and got to get back to these phones.

830
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 2: Rick's been waiting the longest, so we'll go to him.

831
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 2: Rick in Southern cal. What do you got for us

832
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 2: here on One Bill's Live.

833
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Speaker 8: Hey, good morning guys, how you doing good?

834
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 3: Good?

835
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 8: First of allways, want to say Chris, happy birthday, my friend.

836
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you much. I appreciate that you got it.

837
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 8: So my question today really is about Jordan Poyer now

838
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 8: that he's with Miami and they signed him to it.

839
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 8: I believe it was a two million dollar deal. I'm

840
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 8: just curious, in your guys' opinion, one had been better

841
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 8: for Buffalo to hold on to Jordan Poyer and get

842
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 8: the mic a veteran minimum with the incentives maybe of

843
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 8: getting up to where he wants to be, but put

844
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 8: him on our roster as a leadership role, if not

845
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 8: a training role for our news safety that we're gonna get.

846
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 8: I just understand why we trade him to our one

847
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 8: of our biggest rivals in the entire league for a

848
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 8: price that I think was affordable for Buffalo to keep

849
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 8: him on the roster.

850
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 2: Well he was, Yeah, he was. He was actually under

851
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 2: contract with the Bills. Ricky had a year left on

852
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 2: his existing deal. The problem was his cap figure was

853
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 2: eight million dollars and the Bills were in a position

854
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 2: where they had to create cap space and he represented

855
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 2: a formidable savings for them.

856
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, it had nothing to do. Yeah, he was never

857
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 3: He was a salary cap casualty. And so there's nothing

858
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 3: that says the Bills didn't go back to him and say, hey, listen,

859
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 3: we'll give you this or this or there, or veterminimum

860
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 3: or whatever. And in the interim he got contacted by

861
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 3: Miami and decided to make a change. That's what it was.

862
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 3: That the Bills didn't say goodbye to him because they

863
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 3: didn't like him. It was strictly a business financial decision.

864
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 2: Now, I will say that watching Jordan play last year,

865
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,800
Speaker 2: while he had a very productive season over one hundred tackles,

866
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 2: I think it was second or third on the team

867
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 2: in tackles. He was playing a different role. He was

868
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,320
Speaker 2: much closer to the line of scrimmage. He was playing

869
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 2: in a dime package, almost as a linebacker type. And

870
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 2: I think that's because his range wasn't quite what it

871
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 2: was in his prime in terms of coverage. That's not

872
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 2: to say he's not a capable NFL player. I just

873
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 2: don't know that he's the same NFL player that he

874
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 2: was here in his prime, as he'll be thirty three

875
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 2: years of age, I believe before the season starts in

876
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 2: the fall. So he was a free agent and he

877
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 2: signed a free agent minimum contract with the Dolphins, which

878
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 2: I think speaks to what the rest of the league

879
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 2: feels his value is on the open market as a

880
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 2: thirty three year old safety.

881
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 3: And there might be some you know, there's probably something

882
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 3: in it about Taron Johnson, you know, kind of taking

883
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 3: over the leadership role. There's also probably something in there

884
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 3: about Taylor Rapp in the Bill's you know, belief that

885
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 3: he may be the next guy that they wanted to

886
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 3: move in there and move and get to a younger

887
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 3: spot athletically, whatever, No question about it, it's gonna be

888
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 3: virtually impossible to replace what Poyer brings to the room

889
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 3: as a leader and a mentor and an experience, a

890
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 3: voice of experience. But Poyer could quite frankly make more

891
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 3: than that someplace else for a team that wants him

892
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 3: on the field, And the Bills probably would not have

893
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 3: put him on a field had he come back. So

894
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 3: for a guy like Poe, I would I would think

895
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,720
Speaker 3: he made the best decision for him and his family,

896
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 3: and the Bills did what they believe. Now, you can,

897
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 3: you can poke holes in It's sure, you always can,

898
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 3: but I don't think that anybody on either side of

899
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 3: this is beefing this too much.

900
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's get back to the phones and too, Mike

901
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 2: and Easter or what's up Mike?

902
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 9: Happy birthday?

903
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 3: Yeah? Thanks?

904
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 2: And also Eric, yes.

905
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:07,240
Speaker 9: Also this is her. This is mainly a question for Steve. Steve,

906
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 9: do you think that Sean McDermott can get Chase Young's

907
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 9: hat out of his rear end uh and get him

908
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:25,280
Speaker 9: play into his ability provided the Bill could find a way.

909
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:26,800
Speaker 7: To sign him.

910
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 9: And also if they did sign him, what do you

911
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 9: think the contract would look like?

912
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 2: All right, here's the thing, Hirst, of all, I had

913
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 2: to cut him loose Stone was breaking up.

914
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 3: Thanks Mike, here you go, Mike. First of all, if

915
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 3: a guy doesn't want to play, it doesn't matter who's

916
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 3: coaching him. We've seen that with other players around the league.

917
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 3: If there was a chance that the Bill signed him,

918
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 3: you can bet it's gonna be a one year deal

919
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 3: so that he'll be highly motivated financially to play hard.

920
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 3: That's the way it'll work. Chase Young will play for

921
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 3: the money, so you don't have to light a fire

922
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 3: under him. If you're asking a coach, you'd be hard

923
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 3: pressed to find a coach who can break through to

924
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 3: a guy who doesn't have a motor.

925
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:22,399
Speaker 2: And that is the knock on Chase Young.

926
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 3: Chase Young doesn't play hard on a consistent basis. So

927
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 3: that's his problem, and that's why Washington gave up on him.

928
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 3: That's why he's available now with That's why.

929
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 2: An uber talented twenty four year old pass Rush ubertailable now.

930
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 3: Think Jadavian Clowney. It's the same guy, hugely talented, but

931
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 3: he's going to bounce around and he's going to make

932
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 3: pretty good money. But you just he will forever until

933
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 3: he changes it. It will be forever labeled as an underachiever.

934
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 2: And I think the other thing we have to remember

935
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 2: here too is the Bills have worked very hard to

936
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 2: create cap space so they can make the necessary moves

937
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 2: to fill out their roster. As Steve mentioned, they're only

938
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 2: up to fifty eight active fifty eight players under contract.

939
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 2: They got a long way to go. Do the Bills

940
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 2: sound like the kind of team that would want to

941
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 2: undertake that kind of situation, knowing they're always looking for

942
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 2: Bills DNA type players. I don't know that they are.

943
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 2: He's probably gonna cost you about thirteen to fourteen million

944
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 2: on a one year deal, which also, by the way,

945
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,399
Speaker 2: doesn't affordge it the opportunity to spread that money out

946
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 2: in any way, shape or form, And it's a risk.

947
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 2: And I think they'd rather take a couple of sure

948
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 2: things with two players that cost thirteen million than one

949
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 2: where they know they're gonna have to be kicking the

950
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 2: guy in the pants every week in practice.

951
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 3: Right, So yeah, that's just it might be too big

952
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 3: a rot a home And I get it. I mean,

953
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 3: Sean McDermott has gotten the most out of a lot

954
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 3: of the players on this roster. But one of the

955
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 3: reasons these coach is like like a Mike Tomlin, like

956
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 3: a Sean McDermott, like whoever, like Dan Campbell in Detroit.

957
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 3: Some of these guys that have a reputation for maximizing

958
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 3: the guys on the roster. There are others out there

959
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:14,320
Speaker 3: and I'm not thinking of them. One of the reasons

960
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,439
Speaker 3: they're able to do that is because they don't hire

961
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 3: guys like Chase Young, right. They only bring in guys

962
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 3: that are high motor guys, and so they that helps

963
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 3: them get the most out of their roster. So you

964
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 3: get a you bring a guy in here who's highly

965
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,720
Speaker 3: motivated but not as gifted. You always have that idea

966
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 3: that they're playing above their punching weight, you know. Whereas

967
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 3: a guy like Chase Young, it's like, uh, yeah, I

968
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 3: want is there anybody out here who will trade for him?

969
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 2: You know, because I'll say this, Well, the Niners traded

970
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 2: for him at the deadline.

971
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 3: Just for a stretch run too, and they're ready.

972
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 2: To get rid of it, and they didn't. They're not

973
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 2: going to resign them.

974
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:01,879
Speaker 3: I Mean, here's the thing. Guys like that like Chase Young,

975
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 3: like Jadavian Clown, a nice guy. Okay, all of that

976
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 3: but here, let me tell you something. They're they're a

977
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 3: drag on your attitude and your and your work, you know,

978
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 3: and your work ethic, on your vibe, on this maximizing

979
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 3: your roster. They are a drag on it, because, man,

980
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 3: they if you got a guy like that in your

981
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 3: locker room, you can bet he's gonna make friends in

982
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 3: the locker room, and anybody who makes friends with him

983
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 3: is going to be the same way and get dragged down.

984
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 3: They're gonna get dragged And all of a sudden, you

985
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,399
Speaker 3: got it like he's you know, he's got a couple

986
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 3: of his defensive line buddies. He's got a defensive back buddy,

987
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 3: maybe even a tight end or alignman. And all of

988
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 3: a sudden, you got guys from sprinkled out through other

989
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 3: position groups who are all getting dragged down. You know,

990
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 3: their attitude's bad, their work ethics bad. They're leaving the

991
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 3: facility instead of staying in doing stuff. You know, they

992
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 3: if they're they they're cutting loose as soon as they can,

993
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 3: thinking about other things. They don't they don't live it,

994
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:56,320
Speaker 3: breathe it, talk it, you know that kind of stuff.

995
00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 3: And that's what guys like Chase Young can do. So

996
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 3: that's why teams, man, they treat them, They treat them

997
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 3: like man. They they they want to take a pill

998
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,280
Speaker 3: and get rid of them like they're like a cold,

999
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 3: you know, give me a give me a shot so

1000
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 3: I can get rid of this. That's the way it is.

1001
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 3: And so, yeah, I as much and I get it.

1002
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 3: Sean McDermott is a guy who give it a shot.

1003
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,800
Speaker 3: But don't don't, man, we got it. We want you

1004
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 3: want to get more problems?

1005
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1006
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 2: Does you know do the plus is outweigh the minuses?

1007
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 3: When things our teams are debating. When things are going good,

1008
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 3: you got a million things you got to deal with,

1009
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 3: let alone bringing in a million and one.

1010
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 2: We are up against the break. Jack and cheek to

1011
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 2: Waga will lead us off when we come back, as

1012
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 2: we are wide open for phone calls. Why will the

1013
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 2: bills be able to stay at number twenty eight and

1014
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 2: still get their guy, give us your best argument for

1015
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 2: that when we return here on One Bill's Live presented

1016
00:51:52,880 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 2: by co Lot of Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

1017
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: The one Bills Live presented by Calida Health.

1018
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 2: All Right, welcome to our number two here on a Monday,

1019
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve tasker with you and working our way

1020
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:47,240
Speaker 2: through the second week of free agency, but our attention

1021
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 2: today has shifted somewhat to the draft, where our question

1022
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 2: on the table for you is as follows, why will

1023
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 2: the Bills be able to stay at twenty eight and

1024
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 2: still get their guy? Maybe stay?

1025
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 3: Make your best argument to us.

1026
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 2: State your best argument to us as to why that

1027
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 2: will be the case. We're both pretty confident that the

1028
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,439
Speaker 2: Bills will be able to get a very very good

1029
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 2: player at pick twenty eight, even if it is not

1030
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 2: at the necessary position of choice that me or Steve

1031
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 2: or any of you may have. But let us know,

1032
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:22,879
Speaker 2: why will the Bills be able to stay at twenty

1033
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 2: eight and still get their guy? We go to the

1034
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 2: phones and waiting patiently. There has been Jack in cheek

1035
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 2: to Wargen, What do you got for us?

1036
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 3: Jack?

1037
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 10: Hi? First of all, Happy bladed birthday to Chris, to

1038
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 10: Eric and de Butcher yep. Thanks regarding the question. I

1039
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:39,359
Speaker 10: don't think they're going to be able to get their

1040
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,919
Speaker 10: guy if they stay at twenty eight. Okay, Now there's

1041
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 10: a couple of aspects to this. We've got five or

1042
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 10: six weeks of free agency left, and we know that

1043
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 10: Brandon Bean's intention is to go into any draft not

1044
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 10: being forced into a position of need. So we've got

1045
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 10: to believe that, you know, what we're talking about now

1046
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 10: isn't going to be the same five or six weeks

1047
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:01,439
Speaker 10: from now when.

1048
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 4: The draft comes up.

1049
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 10: But if it comes up and the offensive linemen the

1050
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 10: quarterbacks push other positions back in the draft, I think

1051
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 10: that the Bills are going to be looking at a

1052
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 10: situation where a guy that they did not think was

1053
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 10: going to be available is getting close, and therefore I

1054
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 10: think they're going to have to trade some of the

1055
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 10: draft capital and move up in the draft to get

1056
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 10: their guy, just like they did with kin Kaid. Now,

1057
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 10: Arizona just traded Marquise Brown today and we're looking at

1058
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 10: the draft team drafting immediately in front of us, so

1059
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 10: we know that they're probably going to look at that

1060
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 10: position in particular. I would think that him he's going

1061
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 10: to have to do a little move up to pick

1062
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 10: the guy. And like Steve said, it might he might

1063
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 10: not catch the ball. But if we're in good shape

1064
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:01,399
Speaker 10: going into the draft, get the best player available, there's

1065
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 10: gonna be somebody they like and they're gonna have to

1066
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 10: trade some of that draft capital to, you know, to

1067
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 10: move up in the draft, whether it's four picks, five picks,

1068
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 10: whatever is reasonable to do with what we've got. I think,

1069
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 10: you know, that's what's going to be more likely. I

1070
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 10: don't see being trading back to fill a number three

1071
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 10: draft picks slot because he didn't get one from the

1072
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 10: league that he should have gotten.

1073
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know, I.

1074
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 10: Don't see that because you've got eleven picks and you're

1075
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 10: not gonna use all of them. Put them the better

1076
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 10: use in move up when you have to. And I'm

1077
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:38,320
Speaker 10: gonna hang up and listen.

1078
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,479
Speaker 3: All Rightah, that's good Jack. That's something I hadn't thought

1079
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 3: about too much. We you always kind of tend to

1080
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 3: all of us. And I don't know if the Bills

1081
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 3: do this or not. I amn't really spoken. There's certain

1082
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 3: guys you just know are not going to be there

1083
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 3: when you get there. And Jack's assertion is because of

1084
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,800
Speaker 3: all these quarterbacks and the and the offensive tackles and

1085
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 3: edge guys and defensive tack all that there's gonna be

1086
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 3: a guy down at number twenty eight or getting close

1087
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 3: to anith like you say, twenty three, right, twenty twenty one,

1088
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 3: twenty two, twenty three that the Bills did not think

1089
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 3: was gonna fall that far, and they got maybe a

1090
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 3: top ten value on this guy like Romadunze, right I'm

1091
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 3: using I mean his example.

1092
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 4: Right.

1093
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 3: Then all of a sudden, you're thinking, okay, well we

1094
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 3: do have We've had conversations with and I'll give you that.

1095
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 3: You know, we've had conversations with Miami and Philly and

1096
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:34,879
Speaker 3: Minnesota at twenty one, twenty two, and twenty three about

1097
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 3: what it would take to move up, and now we

1098
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 3: do want to move up, and that guy might be

1099
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 3: worth it. So having a guy that was unexpected fall

1100
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 3: that far and maybe it's who knows what, maybe it's

1101
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 3: not a wide receiver, maybe somebody else. But nevertheless you're thinking,

1102
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 3: oh my gosh, how did that guy get to twenty three?

1103
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 3: Then you're thinking, okay, everything's different. Now they are going

1104
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 3: to move up and get it.

1105
00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 2: So I have to spring into action, which Brandon being

1106
00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 2: as a history of doing, we all know this.

1107
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 3: And last year he's he makes a good point. Last

1108
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 3: year they went up and got Dalton King kid. Did

1109
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 3: they trade up for him?

1110
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:13,879
Speaker 2: Yes, they did one spot, one spot in a deal

1111
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 2: with Jacksonville.

1112
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 3: Think about it. I mean that that's right, and that's

1113
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 3: not even for a wide out.

1114
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1115
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 2: Two things that Jack mentioned that I have to address. One,

1116
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 2: markis Brown was a free agent. Arizona did not trade him.

1117
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 2: He just signed as a free agent with Kansas City. Two,

1118
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 2: Arizona has two picks in Round one at four and

1119
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 2: twenty seven. So I think if you're a Bills fan,

1120
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 2: you're hoping that they take they that if they stay

1121
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 2: put at for they take Marvin Harrison Junior or Moleague neighbors,

1122
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 2: and the receiver need is not a concern for their

1123
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 2: pick at twenty seven. Even if they trade out at

1124
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 2: four and slide down the board to twelve or thirteen,

1125
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 2: they probably take one of the top three receivers there.

1126
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 2: If it's still on the board, and with all the

1127
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 2: quarterbacks at the top, it may push the people down,

1128
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 2: so they do still get one of the top three

1129
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 2: receivers in the class. And so then you're concerned about

1130
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 2: pick twenty seven becomes moot and you don't have to

1131
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 2: worry about leap frogging them. I think your greater concern

1132
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 2: is probably you know, a team like Tampa. Uh, perhaps

1133
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 2: I don't you know. I don't think you gotta worry

1134
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 2: about Philly.

1135
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 3: I don't.

1136
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 2: I think Minnesota's fine. They drafted a receiver in Round

1137
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 2: one last year, rafted in Addison, uh Dallas, they just

1138
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 2: threw Michael Gallop overboard. But they have people. Green Bay

1139
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 2: they've been there, as Judy our Color earlier said, they've

1140
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 2: been drafted nothing but receivers in pass catching tight ends

1141
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 2: the last two years early in the draft. So I

1142
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 2: don't think they do that. Tampa. Tod got Mike Evans back,

1143
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 2: they still have Godwin, and if Arizona takes one with

1144
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 2: their first pick, you're okay. What you have to worry

1145
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 2: about his teams leap frogging you into that range. So

1146
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 2: you know, like Baltimore, Well, but Baltimore drafted a first

1147
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 2: round receiver last year, and they need offensive line help.

1148
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 2: They lost John Simpson and they traded away their right tackle,

1149
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 2: Morgan Moses to the Jets.

1150
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 3: They lost obj.

1151
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 2: They need they need offensive line help. The Ravens they'll

1152
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 2: draft an old line.

1153
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 3: Detroit's interesting what they're gonna do. Who they'd be looking at.

1154
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 2: I think you gotta be more worried about the teams

1155
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 2: behind you leap frogging you at twenty eight than you

1156
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 2: do about the teams in front of you. So then

1157
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 2: that that begs another question. What's the safe spot to

1158
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 2: move up to to make sure they don't leap frog you, like,

1159
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 2: make it cost prohibitive for them to try to get

1160
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 2: in front of you by sliding up two spots yourself.

1161
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Pinpoint who the guy who

1162
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 3: it is? Right? I mean it could be it could

1163
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 3: be any of those teams. It could be. It could

1164
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 3: be Detroit, Baltimore, San Francisco or Kansas City or any

1165
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 3: of those guys in the.

1166
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 2: Set, Like if San fran loses eye.

1167
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 3: It could be Caroline or New England or Arizona in

1168
00:59:56,760 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 3: the second round, right you know? So yeah, that's the game.

1169
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 2: That's that's the game you're playing.

1170
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 3: Is and you know you sit tight. We've seen it

1171
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 3: work really well for teams. We've also you know, you

1172
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 3: also know the teams have been bit bitten by it.

1173
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 2: It's valid. So but Brandon Bean has pretty much not

1174
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 2: missed in round one. You could say what you want

1175
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 2: about the Kyrie Eland pink pick. I think the jury's

1176
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 2: still out on that. Give it time because we gave

1177
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 2: the at Oliver pick time. And howd that turn out

1178
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 2: pretty good in the year four. Yeah, so give it time.

1179
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 2: He does not miss it in round one.

1180
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 3: There's been Yeah, there's been some guys too, A Jpanessa

1181
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 3: just you know, because of the COVID year. We talked

1182
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 3: about it last week about you know, a lot of

1183
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 3: these guys around the league his second round pick too,

1184
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 3: and we're delayed. We're delayed in their development because of

1185
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 3: the weirdness of the twenty twenty season. They kind of

1186
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 3: didn't get a full season until twenty twenty one, and

1187
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 3: now twenty twenty four or twenty twenty three was their

1188
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 3: third season, and so now those guys kind of spread

1189
01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 3: their wings a little bit. So there's a little bit

1190
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 3: of that going on around the league. So yeah, I'm

1191
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 3: I've been really happy with the way the Bills have

1192
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 3: drafted up for the most part. And I and I'll

1193
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 3: say this too, I think Kyrie Elam is going to

1194
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 3: be a pleasant surprise this year. I think the changes

1195
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 3: on their coaching staff are going to help them help

1196
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 3: him get a fresh set of eyes on him, give

1197
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 3: him a fresh start, and you know, plus clear the

1198
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 3: deck a little bit, give him some more reps and

1199
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 3: some more opportunity. Earlier in the season, so we'll see.

1200
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 3: But this is that's where we're sitting. You're right, I mean,

1201
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 3: I think that's really interesting. And this was from from

1202
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 3: Jack about the problem is what makes you want to

1203
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 3: jump up in the draft is when you get a

1204
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 3: guy within reach that you didn't think was in wh reach.

1205
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 2: And it's like, oh, that's when Brandon moves because think

1206
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 2: about this, even after he traded up twice to get

1207
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 2: Josh up at he thought Tremaine Edmonds was gonna be

1208
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 2: a top ten pick, he's at thirteen and he's still available,

1209
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 2: and he's been on the phone for ten minutes already

1210
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 2: trying to get back up there to go get him,

1211
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 2: and he ultimately does it picks sixteen. Right, So he

1212
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 2: traded all his draft capital to get the quarterback, and

1213
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 2: then he sees this top ten prospect sliding into the

1214
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 2: middle of round one, he goes back up again. Yeah,

1215
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 2: and still didn't give away a future one.

1216
01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 3: It's unbelievable.

1217
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go to Mike in Orchard Park, who's been

1218
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 2: waiting patiently.

1219
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 7: What's up, Mike, Hey, Dylan, how you doing? Happy birthday?

1220
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 4: By thank you?

1221
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, So, guys, I'm looking I'm doing a deep guve

1222
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 7: into our roster right and we trust brandan Bean that

1223
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 7: make the right decisions. There's two positions I'm looking at.

1224
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 7: Obviously receiver is the sexy pick, but I'm looking we lost,

1225
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 7: we lost base, we lost more. I'm looking at the

1226
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 7: interior of our offensive line. If we move Connor to

1227
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 7: the center, that leads us with two active guards on

1228
01:02:57,120 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 7: the roster right. So I'm looking at that group and

1229
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 7: I feel like that was the foundation of this team

1230
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 7: last year. We finally got a solid group of five together.

1231
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 7: And the other position group, I'm looking at his safety

1232
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:15,919
Speaker 7: that leads us with Taylor Rapp and Cam Lewis back

1233
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 7: there and obviously Hamlin. So just depending on how this

1234
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 7: how this draft goes, I won't be surprised if you know,

1235
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 7: if you've got jack Power sitting there, you know, close

1236
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 7: to twenty seven twenty eight, or you know, you got

1237
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 7: Kitchens kind of kind of falling down to the to

1238
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 7: the later round one. So I'm just I don't know,

1239
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 7: just looking just my personal opinion. I'm looking at them

1240
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 7: two position position groups, and uh, you know, I wouldn't

1241
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 7: be surprised.

1242
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:50,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair. The thing is interior o line not

1243
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 2: a strong year for that. So does that prompt some

1244
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 2: teams that really need one badly to get one early?

1245
01:03:58,560 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 4: Right?

1246
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 2: Because there are few? The guard people are like, why

1247
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 2: are guards getting so much money in free agency? It's

1248
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 2: because there aren't any in the draft. Just feel good

1249
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 2: about plugging into the lineup like the Bills did last

1250
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 2: year with Osiris Torrance. There's not too many a guys,

1251
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 2: not too many guys like that this year maybe three.

1252
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 2: So there's gonna be a premium on interior line guys.

1253
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:23,440
Speaker 2: And uh, Fortunately the Bills are in a position where

1254
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 2: they have starting guards.

1255
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 3: They got well if you count McGovern which is now

1256
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 3: he's now kind of a center, you got three of them,

1257
01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 3: David Edwards, Osirius Torrance, which are two pretty good ones.

1258
01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:36,960
Speaker 3: And then you've got the depth guy from from last year,

1259
01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 3: Kevin Jarvis, is still on the rosters. They got bodies,

1260
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 3: but Kevin Jarvis, I don't know if you got Alec Anderson.

1261
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:47,480
Speaker 3: And Alec Anderson, who was attacked listed as a tackle, well,

1262
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 3: he came in as a tackle because that's where he

1263
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 3: played at UCLA, but I think the Bills see him

1264
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:52,920
Speaker 3: as a center guard guy, right, So there you go.

1265
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 3: It's yeah, I don't know what you're what you're gonna

1266
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:03,439
Speaker 3: do with when this draft comes to I think they're

1267
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 3: fine on the offensive line. I just say that, and

1268
01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 3: I rarely say that this team. We've seen it other teams.

1269
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 3: One of the most critical things that falls apart for

1270
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 3: every team is their offensive line. It's half of your

1271
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 3: roster on the offense, and you've got to get it right.

1272
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 3: You have five guys on the field all the time,

1273
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 3: and they've got to be clicking otherwise nothing else works.

1274
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 3: Nothing else works. Now, certainly you got a guy like

1275
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 3: Josh or Mahomes or Lamar, they can transcend that. Even

1276
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow who doesn't run at all, and he just

1277
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 3: ends up. He's ends up between plays, every between every play,

1278
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:44,920
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow is on his back. He hits the ground

1279
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 3: every single pass play. When with that offensive line in

1280
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:50,800
Speaker 3: Cincinnati three years ago, well they kind of fixed it up,

1281
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:52,760
Speaker 3: and now they go to the super Bowl, and now

1282
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:54,720
Speaker 3: now he gets hurt again and now they can't go again.

1283
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:58,080
Speaker 3: But if you don't have that offensive line, none of

1284
01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 3: this other stuff works. The Bills don't have that problem

1285
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 3: right now.

1286
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 4: Now.

1287
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 3: They they're you know, Osiris filled a huge hole for them.

1288
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 3: Last year, and so did McGovern. But now Mitch isn't here,

1289
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 3: and now you're gonna shift it around. But you've got

1290
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 3: those guys, you think now their depth is a question

1291
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:15,640
Speaker 3: mark right now, I would say no question about it.

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01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 3: But last year they didn't need it.

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01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 2: And the Bills have done a good job in the

1294
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 2: later rounds drafting linemen that would have made their roster

1295
01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:27,200
Speaker 2: if it wasn't as deep. I mean, you go all

1296
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 2: the way back to three years ago when they drafted

1297
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:32,720
Speaker 2: Jack Anderson in Round seven, a guard center prospect. He

1298
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:35,520
Speaker 2: got poached off their practice squad and is still on

1299
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 2: active rosters. I think he's in Indie now. Nick Broker,

1300
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 2: they drafted in the sixth round last year as a guard.

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01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 2: He was on their practice squad because he couldn't make

1302
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 2: their roster because of the depth they had with veterans,

1303
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 2: and he gets poached off their roster by another team.

1304
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 2: I think he's in Houston. So the Bills have done

1305
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 2: a good job of drafting interior offensive lineman late in

1306
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 2: the draft, good enough to make rosters in this league,

1307
01:06:57,760 --> 01:06:59,439
Speaker 2: so I think they'll be able to find another one.

1308
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:01,800
Speaker 2: I don't think they have to do it early. Let's

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01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:04,480
Speaker 2: go to Dave in Eerie, Pa. Next, what's up, Dave.

1310
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 11: Hey, Christlas David. It's a pleasure to be on. What

1311
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 11: are the chances I don't know if they've been picked

1312
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 11: up by somebody else, Shaq Lawson and Brandon Phillips coming

1313
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:16,360
Speaker 11: back here.

1314
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 3: Jordan Phillips, I think you mean right.

1315
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 11: I mean, yeah, I mean I mean Jordan Philips.

1316
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think there's a fair chance. Jordan

1317
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:27,080
Speaker 2: Phillips is back for two reasons. Number One, he should

1318
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:30,440
Speaker 2: be affordable because each of the last two seasons for

1319
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 2: him have ended in injury, and I think you can

1320
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:37,160
Speaker 2: use that. You're not purposely trying to use that as

1321
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 2: a negotiating tactic against him, but facts are facts. He's

1322
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 2: had trouble being available throughout the whole season, and so

1323
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:47,440
Speaker 2: because of that, knowing your cap situation is tight, I

1324
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:49,240
Speaker 2: think you could get him at an affordable number. I

1325
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 2: believe he played last year on a one year, four

1326
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 2: million dollar deal. You might be able to cut that

1327
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:56,320
Speaker 2: in half or a little bit more, just because of

1328
01:07:56,360 --> 01:08:00,200
Speaker 2: his injury history the last two seasons, shoulder surgery at

1329
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:02,600
Speaker 2: the end of last year, and then what did he

1330
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 2: have this year? He had the wrist. He had a

1331
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 2: wrist and risk surgery that kept him out of the

1332
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:12,479
Speaker 2: postseason this past year. I know he loves playing here

1333
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 2: and I'm sure the Bills would like to have him,

1334
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:16,479
Speaker 2: but I think they're gonna have to talk turkey about

1335
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:20,559
Speaker 2: contract number and hopefully it's amenable to both sides, wh

1336
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 2: when the Bills have a tight cap situation. As far

1337
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:25,840
Speaker 2: as Shock goes, he played injured most of last year

1338
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 2: with an ankle issue. He's on the wrong side of thirty.

1339
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:33,840
Speaker 2: I don't know if he resigns with the Bills. I

1340
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:36,880
Speaker 2: think that's a June signing, right, Yeah, both of them

1341
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:37,760
Speaker 2: summer signing.

1342
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:39,840
Speaker 3: Both of them probably are because, let's face it, at

1343
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:43,519
Speaker 3: this point in their careers, those guys want the top

1344
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 3: dollar no matter where it is. They got to do

1345
01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:47,919
Speaker 3: it because they don't know when this could end, particularly

1346
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:49,559
Speaker 3: a guy like Jordan Phillips who's now he has been

1347
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:51,760
Speaker 3: nicked up a little bit and it's hard to bounce back.

1348
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:53,960
Speaker 3: They're going to get the top dollar they can and

1349
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 3: the but the demand is probably going to be diminished,

1350
01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:01,599
Speaker 3: so then they start to weigh the differences in those

1351
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 3: contracts and where they want to work. The later it gets,

1352
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:09,000
Speaker 3: the more likely to me, the more likely they are

1353
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:09,680
Speaker 3: going to sign back here.

1354
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:11,840
Speaker 2: Shack has signed one of your deals I think each

1355
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:13,760
Speaker 2: of the last two years to come back to play

1356
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:15,559
Speaker 2: for Buffalo, and I think Phillips has done the same.

1357
01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:17,880
Speaker 2: So it wouldn't shock me if they want to be

1358
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:19,400
Speaker 2: back here, they're gonna have to go down that same

1359
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:22,080
Speaker 2: road again, and maybe for even less money, better a minimum.

1360
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:23,280
Speaker 2: Stuff like that. We'll have to see.

1361
01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 3: Let's go to Mark and West senecon next. What's up Mark?

1362
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:30,560
Speaker 12: Hey, guys all right today? Good hey, Happy birthday to

1363
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:32,519
Speaker 12: the new three amigos.

1364
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 3: Eric, Eric, and Butch.

1365
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:40,800
Speaker 12: Yeah so, And I gotta say I love listening to

1366
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 12: the Butcher. I'm also from the east Side. All the

1367
01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:47,880
Speaker 12: smart bull fans come from the east Side. So the

1368
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:52,719
Speaker 12: reason I called is as far as the receivers, if

1369
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 12: Mitchell or Thomas they're not on the board at twenty eight,

1370
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:57,920
Speaker 12: I'm with Butch moved down. As long as you don't

1371
01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:01,640
Speaker 12: go any lower than forty forty two stay above that

1372
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:04,719
Speaker 12: that I'm all for moving down. But that The reason

1373
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:10,280
Speaker 12: I called, though, is see what that board you have

1374
01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 12: there with the value of picks. What can the Bills

1375
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:18,840
Speaker 12: do by packaging there are two fours, maybe a four

1376
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:22,040
Speaker 12: and five. How far would that get them up the board?

1377
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:24,559
Speaker 12: Would it even get them anywhere near the third round?

1378
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:28,160
Speaker 12: First of all? And then more importantly in my mind,

1379
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 12: would there be any safeties that you realistically think are

1380
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:36,600
Speaker 12: worth picking that high that would still be on the

1381
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:39,560
Speaker 12: board that the Bills might be looking at, because I

1382
01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:43,680
Speaker 12: really think after receiver d tackle that's where they need

1383
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:45,559
Speaker 12: to go. They need to get some youth in net defense.

1384
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:46,479
Speaker 3: Say you work on.

1385
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:49,200
Speaker 2: Do you see what that gets?

1386
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:49,840
Speaker 3: That awesome?

1387
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:51,240
Speaker 2: I'll help them with safety.

1388
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:54,759
Speaker 3: That gets them all the way. That'll get them. That'll

1389
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:56,960
Speaker 3: only get them to pick one o five one oh six,

1390
01:10:57,040 --> 01:10:59,200
Speaker 3: It won't even get them into the third round. But

1391
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:02,479
Speaker 3: if they if they package those are the two fours,

1392
01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:04,599
Speaker 3: that's what pick one twenty eight and one thirty four,

1393
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:07,720
Speaker 3: you could get all the way to pick one oh

1394
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:11,240
Speaker 3: five one oh six. Now they do. And now if

1395
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 3: you want to throw in pick one sixty uh, that

1396
01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:20,840
Speaker 3: would get them to that would get them right to

1397
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:23,280
Speaker 3: the end of the third round of the compensatory picks,

1398
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:26,519
Speaker 3: like where Washington, the Rams and Philly ar that's picked

1399
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:29,760
Speaker 3: one ninety seven through one hundred. You might be able

1400
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:32,960
Speaker 3: to get up that high, but that's only at the

1401
01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 3: end of the third round. That's if you do three picks.

1402
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:41,519
Speaker 3: So they've got pick one forty four. If you throw

1403
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:44,760
Speaker 3: one forty four in with one twenty eight and one

1404
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:49,760
Speaker 3: thirty four, Uh, that would get you to you know,

1405
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:52,160
Speaker 3: that gets you into the well, that'd get you right

1406
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:53,479
Speaker 3: at the end of the third round. They'd get you

1407
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:56,720
Speaker 3: ahead of the compensatory picks. That's about it. You're not

1408
01:11:56,760 --> 01:12:00,240
Speaker 3: gonna get very high. That's three picks. That's trading three

1409
01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:04,040
Speaker 3: picks to move up thirty spots from one twenty eight

1410
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:04,960
Speaker 3: to like ninety eight.

1411
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 2: Right, And as far as safeties, that could be you know,

1412
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:14,240
Speaker 2: in the back half around three. If that's where you're

1413
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 2: looking to move, I think you're talking about a player

1414
01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:21,479
Speaker 2: like Javon Bullard who's going to be knocked for his size.

1415
01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:24,200
Speaker 2: He's only five eleven point eighty, although if you watch

1416
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:27,280
Speaker 2: him at Georgia, he plays bigger than his size, and

1417
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:30,559
Speaker 2: I think he has enough speed to play the deep half.

1418
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:32,880
Speaker 2: What the Bills really need at safety right now with

1419
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 2: Taylor Rap back in the fold as a center fielder,

1420
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:38,679
Speaker 2: somebody in the back end that can cover the deep half.

1421
01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:42,639
Speaker 2: Bullard can do that, and at five eleven point eighty,

1422
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:44,840
Speaker 2: the size isn't as much of a factor. If he's

1423
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:47,720
Speaker 2: playing twenty yards from the line of scrimmage most of

1424
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:50,000
Speaker 2: the time and he's got he's enough of a ball

1425
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:52,320
Speaker 2: hawk to do that. The other guy that I like

1426
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:54,960
Speaker 2: is Cole Bishop. Now, he played a lot closer to

1427
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:58,840
Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage for Utah and would blow up

1428
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:00,880
Speaker 2: everything near the line of image. That guy blew up

1429
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:04,360
Speaker 2: screens better than anybody ever saw in college football. Last

1430
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 2: season when he clocked a four four five at the combine,

1431
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 2: I think it signaled to NFL clubs, Oh, this guy

1432
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 2: has the speed to play free if we wanted him to.

1433
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:18,760
Speaker 2: The question is, you know, has he do on the

1434
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:20,519
Speaker 2: wonder lick? How does he test on the board and

1435
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:22,280
Speaker 2: all of that stuff. Is he quick on the uptake

1436
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:25,200
Speaker 2: to transition from a box safety to a free safety.

1437
01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:28,280
Speaker 2: Is he interchangeable? And if he is, then I think

1438
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:31,000
Speaker 2: he is a consideration there. That's the information that people

1439
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:33,479
Speaker 2: like us don't have because we're not sitting down with

1440
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:35,600
Speaker 2: him in a room and putting him on the board.

1441
01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:39,599
Speaker 3: Right, And that's that's true of every team and every

1442
01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:43,040
Speaker 3: every coaching staff and scouting staff. And I'll say this too,

1443
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:47,960
Speaker 3: there are some don't underestimate the ability of other teams,

1444
01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:51,599
Speaker 3: even though they're all doing the same thing. I'm shocked

1445
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 3: at the disparities between what one team thinks about a

1446
01:13:54,920 --> 01:14:00,040
Speaker 3: player and another team thinks about him. It's shocking. But

1447
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:03,080
Speaker 3: they the different the wide variety, the spectrum of opinions

1448
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:07,840
Speaker 3: there are about these guys, don't underestimate the value. And

1449
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 3: that's why guys will say, why is this guy still available? Yeah,

1450
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:13,760
Speaker 3: and there'll be two or three or five teams that say,

1451
01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:16,679
Speaker 3: we don't like the guy. We have a red flag

1452
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:18,040
Speaker 3: on him, we have this on him, we have that

1453
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:19,880
Speaker 3: on him, we found this out about him, or we

1454
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 3: think we think this about him. Sometimes it's not even fact,

1455
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:30,240
Speaker 3: it's just opinion. That's that's the enormousy the enormity of

1456
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:31,599
Speaker 3: the unknowns in this draft part.

1457
01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:33,880
Speaker 2: The one other safety prospect who should be there laid

1458
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:36,720
Speaker 2: Day two early Day three is Dadrian Taylor Demerson from

1459
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:41,639
Speaker 2: Texas Tech five' eleven, one ninety five. That guy can

1460
01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:43,880
Speaker 2: be a center field safety and the most attractive thing

1461
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:46,479
Speaker 2: about his game is Texas Tech used him at all

1462
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:49,200
Speaker 2: three levels of their defense up at the line of scrimmage,

1463
01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:52,840
Speaker 2: in coverage, in run support, in the slot, and in

1464
01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:55,800
Speaker 2: the deep half. So and he has shown the athleticism

1465
01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:58,240
Speaker 2: capable of playing all three levels of your defense. So

1466
01:14:58,360 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 2: you want a guy coming in the door that has

1467
01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:03,760
Speaker 2: versatility already. That might be a guy Taylor Demerson to

1468
01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:06,599
Speaker 2: keep an eye on late Day two, early Day three

1469
01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:08,320
Speaker 2: if the Bill's trade up into the bottom of the

1470
01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:10,640
Speaker 2: third round or stay there in the top half of

1471
01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:12,760
Speaker 2: the fourth. We have to take a break here, but

1472
01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:14,680
Speaker 2: Bob and Cheek Towaga is gonna lead us off. When

1473
01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:16,680
Speaker 2: we return, DJ and Niagara falls, we'll get to you

1474
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:19,280
Speaker 2: as well. Open phone lines for you. As we're talking

1475
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:21,840
Speaker 2: about the Bills pick at twenty eight, why will they

1476
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:23,800
Speaker 2: be able to stay there and get their guy? Make

1477
01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:26,320
Speaker 2: the argument for us here on One Bill's Live. Stay

1478
01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:43,960
Speaker 2: tuned all right back here on One Bill's Live. Chris Brown,

1479
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:45,519
Speaker 2: Steve Tamsk here on a Monday. Good to have you

1480
01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 2: with us as we are discussing Buffalo's first round pick

1481
01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:52,200
Speaker 2: at number twenty eight. Make the argument for us, why

1482
01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:54,519
Speaker 2: will the Bills be able to sit at twenty eight

1483
01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:57,559
Speaker 2: and still get their guy? If you disagree, that's fine too,

1484
01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:00,200
Speaker 2: but make your case at eight O three five fifty

1485
01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:02,160
Speaker 2: you got some open lines for you there one eight

1486
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:03,559
Speaker 2: five fifty two five fifty.

1487
01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:06,080
Speaker 3: We lead off with Bob and Cheek Dewoga. In this

1488
01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:07,240
Speaker 3: segment we got for us Bob.

1489
01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:11,439
Speaker 13: Hi, Guys, I want to say this. I think they'll

1490
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:13,360
Speaker 13: stay right at twenty eight. And I think they're in

1491
01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:16,759
Speaker 13: good shape to do that because the signing of Samuel

1492
01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:21,160
Speaker 13: Washington was really smart move and I think up and

1493
01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:26,240
Speaker 13: ASA on defense signing him, and I think losing Lloyd hurt,

1494
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:29,040
Speaker 13: but I think von Miller is going to be back

1495
01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:32,680
Speaker 13: better than people think. In that last playoff game, he

1496
01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:35,639
Speaker 13: was pushing off a little bit better on the foot.

1497
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:39,720
Speaker 13: So I think they're going to draft the receiver just

1498
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:41,960
Speaker 13: like they always wanted to win at twenty eighth, and

1499
01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:45,559
Speaker 13: I'm opening it to McConkey, but I don't know who

1500
01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:47,760
Speaker 13: it will be. But I think that's the reason they'll

1501
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:50,200
Speaker 13: be able to stay at twenty eight is because of

1502
01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 13: what they did with Samuel, and I think they they

1503
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:56,599
Speaker 13: made some smart moves and I see him drafting and then,

1504
01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:59,000
Speaker 13: like you guys said, in the third round, you can

1505
01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:02,400
Speaker 13: get your safety and you can get your defensive tackle

1506
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:05,360
Speaker 13: or end that chump. But I would stay right where

1507
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:06,960
Speaker 13: they are, and I think that's why they will.

1508
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:11,720
Speaker 3: When you say that, yeah, you're right, I mean we forget, Yeah,

1509
01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:14,479
Speaker 3: Curtis Samuel is a good player, and you're right, that

1510
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:16,800
Speaker 3: was we thought they might do this, and we kind

1511
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 3: of forget every season that Brandon Bean seems to have

1512
01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:22,920
Speaker 3: the ability to get this team pretty much filled in

1513
01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:26,720
Speaker 3: with whatever voids they have before the draft so that

1514
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:29,760
Speaker 3: they are more free to take somebody other than some

1515
01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:32,759
Speaker 3: glaring need. And it's, you know, it's the old adage

1516
01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:36,560
Speaker 3: that goes, you know, need is a horrible talent evaluator,

1517
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:38,679
Speaker 3: So you never want to go into the draft where

1518
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:42,519
Speaker 3: with you got to have a player at this position

1519
01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:46,240
Speaker 3: or that position. The Bills are pretty much there right now,

1520
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:51,800
Speaker 3: even at wide receiver with the Samuel signing, so I'm yeah,

1521
01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 3: that does take a big edge off. But nevertheless, there

1522
01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:01,080
Speaker 3: is this thought that the Bills are going to have

1523
01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:06,599
Speaker 3: to start refurbishing at that spot because dig is gonna

1524
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:11,400
Speaker 3: be in his early thirties a you know, and Samuel

1525
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:14,840
Speaker 3: Samuel be twenty nine, and you know, so the all

1526
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:16,760
Speaker 3: of that stuff, and pretty soon it's going to be

1527
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:18,720
Speaker 3: at other positions as well. Now this year it's also

1528
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 3: at safety. Because of the two guys that they're losing

1529
01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:23,519
Speaker 3: or doesn't look like a hide's going to be back

1530
01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:26,519
Speaker 3: poier in hide, they're gonna have to do something about

1531
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:33,800
Speaker 3: that spot. I would be surprised if the one thing

1532
01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:36,479
Speaker 3: that keeps Sean McDermott awake at night at this time

1533
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:38,479
Speaker 3: of year, in this situation where we're at at this

1534
01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:42,240
Speaker 3: point in history, I'll bet it's the safety spot. I'll

1535
01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:44,760
Speaker 3: bet it's the safety position. He's the coordinator, he's the

1536
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:46,920
Speaker 3: guy that when they first got here, the first two

1537
01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:49,599
Speaker 3: guys he signed were poorer in hide. That's and those

1538
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:52,799
Speaker 3: are the guys. I would be surprised if that's changed.

1539
01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 3: And so when you look at the roster of the way,

1540
01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:57,320
Speaker 3: it's right now Sean mcdermotts saying there, you know, looking

1541
01:18:57,360 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 3: at the ceiling in bed at night, he's going, man,

1542
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:04,559
Speaker 3: we gotta we got to find somebody. Can we find

1543
01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:08,120
Speaker 3: two guys like those two guys? And that's I think

1544
01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:12,680
Speaker 3: that's it. So it it may be that if one

1545
01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:14,360
Speaker 3: of the if that if the best safety in the

1546
01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:16,720
Speaker 3: draft does fall to twenty eight, they go there.

1547
01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:19,000
Speaker 2: I don't know that there's any I mean, the only

1548
01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:21,920
Speaker 2: safety that I think would merit any consideration in the

1549
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:25,599
Speaker 2: top forty picks would be Tyler Newban, the Minnesota kid

1550
01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:28,600
Speaker 2: who proke call of Antoine Winfield junior's records for the

1551
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:31,960
Speaker 2: Golden Gophers had thirteen career interceptions. That's probably the only

1552
01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:35,360
Speaker 2: safety going in the top fifty. Maybe somebody does like

1553
01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:38,400
Speaker 2: him enough to take him in round one. But to

1554
01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:41,160
Speaker 2: your point about filling in the two safety holes, I

1555
01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:46,439
Speaker 2: think after seeing the daunting situation that that can present

1556
01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:48,439
Speaker 2: to a defense, I don't think they want the same

1557
01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:52,320
Speaker 2: situation at any position on offense, and that's why they

1558
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:55,040
Speaker 2: may dip back into the receiver pool. Even though they

1559
01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:57,800
Speaker 2: did sign Curtis Samuel. I'm glad we lasted an hour

1560
01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:00,559
Speaker 2: and a half into the show before somebody met Curtis

1561
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:05,120
Speaker 2: Samuel as a means of at least reducing the urgency

1562
01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:08,920
Speaker 2: of grabbing a receiver in round one should the value

1563
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:10,559
Speaker 2: not be right, You're not at the end of your

1564
01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:13,760
Speaker 2: rope because you have Curtis Samuel on your roster now.

1565
01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:17,880
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't think that precludes you from taking

1566
01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 2: a receiver because of what lies down the pike. In

1567
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:24,439
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five at the position with Digs another year older,

1568
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:28,040
Speaker 2: Samuel another year older, you know, in pushing thirty. So

1569
01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:32,080
Speaker 2: you need an influx of youth. And I know people argue, well,

1570
01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:34,839
Speaker 2: don't you have that with Justin Shorter and Khalil Shakir

1571
01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:37,760
Speaker 2: and Dalton Kincaid even though he plays tight end, and

1572
01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:40,479
Speaker 2: I would say yes, and James Cook even right. But

1573
01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:43,759
Speaker 2: at the same time, there's a specific type of player

1574
01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:47,880
Speaker 2: you need lining up outside at wide receiver, and if

1575
01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:49,920
Speaker 2: you have a player in Diggs who may not be

1576
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:53,320
Speaker 2: able to fulfill that down in and down out for

1577
01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:56,480
Speaker 2: seventeen games anymore, you better have somebody in the pipeline

1578
01:20:56,479 --> 01:20:59,320
Speaker 2: that you know is capable of doing that, and that

1579
01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:04,439
Speaker 2: I think is what keeps receiver position, you know, one

1580
01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:06,800
Speaker 2: of their top three needs. For sure. Let's go to

1581
01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:08,600
Speaker 2: DJ and Niagara falls next. What do you got for

1582
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:09,000
Speaker 2: his DJ?

1583
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:10,760
Speaker 4: How's going guys?

1584
01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:12,920
Speaker 14: I think a lot of the stuff you just hit

1585
01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:15,479
Speaker 14: on as well is the fact that we lost two

1586
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:18,600
Speaker 14: of the three wide receivers that we just replaced with

1587
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:22,519
Speaker 14: Matt Collins and Curtis Samuel, which helped, but it doesn't

1588
01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:24,800
Speaker 14: change the need of the fact that, yeah, Diggs has

1589
01:21:25,160 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 14: got a few years left at most. You got to

1590
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:30,519
Speaker 14: replace Gabe Davis's spot and want someone to take over that.

1591
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:34,240
Speaker 14: So I think wide receiver one is that you know,

1592
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:37,519
Speaker 14: pick at first round for us anyways, and I think

1593
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:40,120
Speaker 14: the biggest thing is it's less of what the Bills need.

1594
01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:43,559
Speaker 14: And also looking at the teams around us, the pick

1595
01:21:43,640 --> 01:21:44,599
Speaker 14: twenty one down.

1596
01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:45,120
Speaker 4: To twenty eight.

1597
01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:47,760
Speaker 14: Many of those teams, I would be shocked if ave

1598
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:50,280
Speaker 14: them to take a wide receiver. But I'm looking at

1599
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:53,200
Speaker 14: you got the Chiefs below us and the Ravens below us.

1600
01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:56,320
Speaker 14: We're all competing for the same players, and we've seen

1601
01:21:56,360 --> 01:22:00,560
Speaker 14: the AFC just reload on offense. We're all competing for

1602
01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:03,400
Speaker 14: the same thing. You need offense in order to win,

1603
01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:06,280
Speaker 14: and they all need wide receivers as well. You have

1604
01:22:06,439 --> 01:22:08,760
Speaker 14: to imagine that Brandon Bean knows that they're looking at

1605
01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:11,560
Speaker 14: the same players, and it's not only who do we

1606
01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:13,559
Speaker 14: get on our guy, but how do we make sure

1607
01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:17,200
Speaker 14: our guide doesn't go to our top competition. Who's gonna

1608
01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:19,880
Speaker 14: burn us if they get over us to get them instead.

1609
01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:23,160
Speaker 2: I respect that, I mean I do respect that, but

1610
01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:26,720
Speaker 2: that you can't you can't live that way. And I'll

1611
01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:30,800
Speaker 2: say this. If there's one advantage that the Bills have

1612
01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:34,880
Speaker 2: at this very moment over teams like the Chiefs and

1613
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:38,080
Speaker 2: the Ravens is their offensive line is in much better

1614
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:42,880
Speaker 2: shape than theirs. The Chiefs need tackle help and the

1615
01:22:43,040 --> 01:22:45,960
Speaker 2: Ravens need tackle and guard help. They lost John Simpson

1616
01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:49,840
Speaker 2: and traded Morgan Moses to the Jets, so they don't

1617
01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:52,280
Speaker 2: have a starting guard and a starting tackle from last

1618
01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:54,760
Speaker 2: year's squad. All the Bills lost was a center, which

1619
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:57,639
Speaker 2: isn't nothing, but I think they already have a plan

1620
01:22:57,760 --> 01:22:59,920
Speaker 2: in place as to how to address that. I don't

1621
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:03,200
Speaker 2: know that the Ravens do at two starting line positions

1622
01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:05,960
Speaker 2: on their roster, and I think we can all feel

1623
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:08,719
Speaker 2: comfortable in the fact that the Chiefs were not happy

1624
01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:12,280
Speaker 2: with the performance they got at the tackle position from

1625
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:16,519
Speaker 2: Donovan Smith, who's a free agent, and Juwan Taylor, who

1626
01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:20,759
Speaker 2: had more penalties than any other lineman in football last season.

1627
01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:26,280
Speaker 2: So round one, I mean, they might want a receiver

1628
01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:30,320
Speaker 2: as much as the next guy, but knowing Baltimore and

1629
01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:33,800
Speaker 2: their history of developing it in the trenches, I think

1630
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:36,439
Speaker 2: they go O line there at thirty and if not,

1631
01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:40,160
Speaker 2: probably corner because they need a corner something bad.

1632
01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:44,160
Speaker 3: You're right, though, I mean the Baltimore Ravens, the Kansas

1633
01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:46,960
Speaker 3: City Chiefs, and the Cincinnati Bengals to a certain extent

1634
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:49,240
Speaker 3: as well. All those teams know and I think they're

1635
01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:51,400
Speaker 3: in the same spot. We see it as an arms race.

1636
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:56,040
Speaker 3: You got to score, and defenses are being more and

1637
01:23:56,240 --> 01:23:59,120
Speaker 3: more by virtue of rules changes and the way they're

1638
01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:03,320
Speaker 3: calling games being hamstrung even more and more. So it's

1639
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:06,240
Speaker 3: more offense, more offense, more offense, more scoring, more scoring.

1640
01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:10,360
Speaker 3: All of that is happening, and you got to stay

1641
01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:13,240
Speaker 3: up with it. And those three teams are four teams

1642
01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:15,880
Speaker 3: that I mentioned along with San Diego and now looks

1643
01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:21,160
Speaker 3: like Houston, San Diego, LA Chargers, and Houston Jacksonville has

1644
01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:23,559
Speaker 3: been on that train, although you know Trevor Lawrence took

1645
01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:26,920
Speaker 3: a step back last year Indianapolis with Anthony Richardson. All

1646
01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:31,600
Speaker 3: these teams with these quarterbacks, no, you gotta have a

1647
01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:34,439
Speaker 3: guy that can score on anybody at any time. And

1648
01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:38,679
Speaker 3: so just the fact that the Chiefs and the Ravens

1649
01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:40,560
Speaker 3: and all these other teams are in that boat with

1650
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:43,479
Speaker 3: you doesn't mean you should build your team like you're

1651
01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:45,880
Speaker 3: not gonna keep good players off those teams you're just not.

1652
01:24:46,360 --> 01:24:48,040
Speaker 3: You got to build your team as good as you

1653
01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:51,240
Speaker 3: can build it. That's too. You can't. As much as

1654
01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:54,679
Speaker 3: it would be great, you can't sabotage them the dragons.

1655
01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:58,720
Speaker 3: You can't do it. It's it's wasted energy and or

1656
01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:03,519
Speaker 3: you're gonna you're gonna cripple yourself in your attempt to

1657
01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:08,120
Speaker 3: cripple another team's draft order. So don't worry about that.

1658
01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:10,080
Speaker 3: You build your team as good as you can build it.

1659
01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:13,080
Speaker 3: And the other teams, you know, let them worry about them.

1660
01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:17,439
Speaker 3: I get it though, I mean it's it's easy to

1661
01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:19,840
Speaker 3: worry about Kansas City and those guys, you know, when

1662
01:25:19,840 --> 01:25:21,880
Speaker 3: you're sitting over here and there. You can't get past

1663
01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:24,040
Speaker 3: them in the playoffs, the top of either and they're

1664
01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:25,640
Speaker 3: going back. They went back to the super Bowl two

1665
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:28,439
Speaker 3: times in a row. And want it. Nah, you can't

1666
01:25:28,479 --> 01:25:30,360
Speaker 3: do You can't live like that. Don't let yourself fall

1667
01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:33,360
Speaker 3: into that that trap, because there's no way out. Just

1668
01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:36,240
Speaker 3: focus on building the Yeah, build you can and play

1669
01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:39,680
Speaker 3: good on that day. Let's go to Will in Virginia X.

1670
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:40,320
Speaker 2: What's up, Will?

1671
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:42,560
Speaker 4: Hey? What's up? Can you hear me?

1672
01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1673
01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:44,720
Speaker 4: Hey, what's up? Christ?

1674
01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:45,679
Speaker 8: And Steve and I have birthday.

1675
01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:45,920
Speaker 3: Chris.

1676
01:25:47,320 --> 01:25:49,640
Speaker 4: I'm not sure if I probably missed this, but I

1677
01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:51,680
Speaker 4: know that the Bills play like heavy nickel and like

1678
01:25:51,760 --> 01:25:54,280
Speaker 4: heavy dime. But is it possible to like switch the

1679
01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:56,960
Speaker 4: base defense and the posse switch Taron Johnson the safety.

1680
01:25:58,160 --> 01:26:00,000
Speaker 2: I understand what you're saying.

1681
01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:02,080
Speaker 3: I wish, but ice defense and what safety.

1682
01:26:02,120 --> 01:26:05,160
Speaker 2: Move Taron Johnson to safety? I think Terren's too valuable

1683
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:08,200
Speaker 2: as a nickel to move him to another spot.

1684
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:11,479
Speaker 3: Don't ask, Yeah, don't ask a player.

1685
01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:14,680
Speaker 2: He's a second team All Pro at nickel corner. I

1686
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:19,280
Speaker 2: really don't want to try to fix one problem and

1687
01:26:19,439 --> 01:26:20,960
Speaker 2: create another, if you know what I mean.

1688
01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 3: I have a hard time thinking moving Tarran to safety

1689
01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:27,120
Speaker 3: would give you an all pro safety as much as

1690
01:26:27,160 --> 01:26:29,559
Speaker 3: subtracting an all pro nickel. Right.

1691
01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:31,320
Speaker 2: It's kind of a bird in the hand versus two

1692
01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:31,840
Speaker 2: in the bushes.

1693
01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:34,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I don't know that Taron Johnson is

1694
01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:37,559
Speaker 3: gonna play safety better than he played nickel corner.

1695
01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:39,719
Speaker 2: It's another best in the league.

1696
01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:44,000
Speaker 3: Just like saying a guy's gonna play inside linebacker better

1697
01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:47,599
Speaker 3: than he plays outside linebacker or something like that. I mean,

1698
01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:51,840
Speaker 3: I say, yeah, I get it. Keep good players on

1699
01:26:51,960 --> 01:26:54,519
Speaker 3: the field and replace. But I don't know why who

1700
01:26:54,560 --> 01:26:57,280
Speaker 3: you're gonna put in at the third linebacker.

1701
01:26:58,000 --> 01:27:00,400
Speaker 2: Or at the nickel corner. I mean, William Lewis, you.

1702
01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:04,840
Speaker 3: Know you're gonna you're gonna put in you know, the

1703
01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:08,200
Speaker 3: third linebacker. I mean, was it Dorrian Williams? And then

1704
01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:12,080
Speaker 3: play you know, play you know Bernard and Milano, and

1705
01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:14,800
Speaker 3: then have Dorian Williams on the field, you know, and

1706
01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:16,519
Speaker 3: spots and we give it a try. I don't know,

1707
01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:17,280
Speaker 3: but I don't know how.

1708
01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:20,200
Speaker 2: Dorian Wims can big a void at the position you

1709
01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:23,160
Speaker 2: take Taran out of, which is clearly his best position

1710
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:26,000
Speaker 2: where you know he is second. He's all pro level

1711
01:27:26,040 --> 01:27:28,160
Speaker 2: at that spot. I can't see moving him for anything.

1712
01:27:28,160 --> 01:27:31,360
Speaker 3: I have a hard time seeing Dorrian Williams or anybody

1713
01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:33,240
Speaker 3: else garden. What are they gonna do when they go

1714
01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:36,400
Speaker 3: three wide and go on? You can't go man, You

1715
01:27:36,439 --> 01:27:37,040
Speaker 3: can't play man.

1716
01:27:37,120 --> 01:27:38,920
Speaker 2: And I guess you could drop him down into the

1717
01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:41,040
Speaker 2: box and cover the slot from his safety position and

1718
01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:42,639
Speaker 2: then there's somebody else on the field, But then you're

1719
01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:44,479
Speaker 2: doing what you did in the beginning. Anyway, Yeah, then

1720
01:27:44,479 --> 01:27:46,360
Speaker 2: you're back to leave him there and don't make a

1721
01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:48,920
Speaker 2: don't make an easy math problem more complicated.

1722
01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:51,080
Speaker 3: If you do that, you're not You're not gonna be

1723
01:27:51,080 --> 01:27:52,720
Speaker 3: able to put somebody in there who can play man

1724
01:27:52,840 --> 01:27:55,519
Speaker 3: like like tarran Can and then hold up in the

1725
01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:56,320
Speaker 3: run game as well.

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01:27:56,920 --> 01:27:58,840
Speaker 2: Got to take a break here. Some thoughts on the

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01:27:58,840 --> 01:28:00,800
Speaker 2: tweet seet. When we return here on one Bill's Live,

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01:28:00,840 --> 01:28:20,560
Speaker 2: stay tuned all right quickly. Some final thoughts on the

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01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:23,080
Speaker 2: tweet sheet here, presented by Corgan Moving System is the

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01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:25,360
Speaker 2: official equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills. Why will

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01:28:25,360 --> 01:28:27,000
Speaker 2: the Bills be able to stay at twenty eight still

1732
01:28:27,040 --> 01:28:29,600
Speaker 2: get their guy? Cherry Red says they'll be able to

1733
01:28:29,640 --> 01:28:31,719
Speaker 2: stay at twenty eight and still land their guy because

1734
01:28:31,720 --> 01:28:33,799
Speaker 2: the roster is already so strong that they can select

1735
01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:38,280
Speaker 2: the best man standing. Ad Mitchell available, question Mark, he Works, Chop,

1736
01:28:38,720 --> 01:28:44,639
Speaker 2: Braden Fisk, Johnny Newton, Byron Murphy, Cooper, Dejean, Lad McConkie, Bullard,

1737
01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:48,280
Speaker 2: Kinchins all make us better. Also, some team's gonna screw

1738
01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:50,880
Speaker 2: up and go off script, leaving a great value player

1739
01:28:50,920 --> 01:28:51,160
Speaker 2: to us.

1740
01:28:51,280 --> 01:28:55,280
Speaker 3: There is always one of those, right, I forgot about that.

1741
01:28:55,760 --> 01:28:59,320
Speaker 2: Somebody makes a sharp left turn at Albuquerque and everybody's going.

1742
01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:04,000
Speaker 3: There's always somebody out there going they took who and

1743
01:29:04,120 --> 01:29:06,439
Speaker 3: you go down. You love when that was cold strange.

1744
01:29:06,479 --> 01:29:08,519
Speaker 3: A couple of years of range is the is the

1745
01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:10,760
Speaker 3: one we always go to there, you know, and you

1746
01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:13,920
Speaker 3: go back years and years. That always happens. Somebody goes

1747
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:14,439
Speaker 3: off script.

1748
01:29:15,360 --> 01:29:19,120
Speaker 2: Jmax says, I think six wide receivers go before twenty eight,

1749
01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:21,559
Speaker 2: and possibly seven in round one. That would tiere record.

1750
01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:23,920
Speaker 2: I hope they trade back and add capitol and get

1751
01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:27,479
Speaker 2: the best wide receiver in the second round. That might

1752
01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:30,920
Speaker 2: be might be able to do that because you have

1753
01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:33,360
Speaker 2: Samuel now and maybe you feel that affords you the

1754
01:29:33,439 --> 01:29:36,280
Speaker 2: opportunity to wait on it a little bit. And look,

1755
01:29:36,320 --> 01:29:38,040
Speaker 2: if seven go in front of them at twenty eight,

1756
01:29:38,120 --> 01:29:39,960
Speaker 2: the value is not gonna be their receiver at twenty

1757
01:29:39,960 --> 01:29:40,800
Speaker 2: eight anyway.

1758
01:29:41,080 --> 01:29:43,639
Speaker 3: Somebody else you probably moved. If there's seven guys gone,

1759
01:29:43,760 --> 01:29:45,200
Speaker 3: forget it, You're gonna get somebody else.

1760
01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:45,439
Speaker 6: Yeah.

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01:29:45,760 --> 01:29:48,280
Speaker 2: Thanks for all the birthday wishes. Everybody appreciate that. Happy

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01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:50,599
Speaker 2: birthday to my broadcast partner Eric Wood as well. We'll

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Speaker 2: see you tomorrow on the nineteenth at one pm.