1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stupidity, home of the greatest media mind ever 2 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: to walk the planet. 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, man, He's a literal titan across 4 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 2: the entire media landscape. 5 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: Okay, sure, here's a deal. 6 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 3: He's a true icon in every sense of the word. 7 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 4: He's loved and feared more than any being. 8 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 1: To Grace's planet, there got a bed with a voice 9 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: that sounds like Erry White, and be got to say, Hey, 10 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 1: let's do it, baby. God himself would pay thirty nine 11 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 1: ninety nine for a cameo. Fact of the matter is 12 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: you are about to embark on a transcendent experience that 13 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: can only be described as psychological nudity. This is Stugos 14 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: and this is Stupidity. Here we go jump awodly. 15 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 2: Welcome into another episode of Stupotoity, the biggest podcast in 16 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 2: the world. Thanks to you, you please subscribe, rate and 17 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 2: review unsubscribed, resubscribe, rate, re review. By doing that, you 18 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 2: have made us the biggest podcast in the world. We 19 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 2: love you, We appreciate you. We are presented by our 20 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 2: friends over at Draft Kings Ben Simmons. Even with the 21 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 2: NFL going on, even with college football going on, the 22 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 2: big news this week has been what's going on with 23 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 2: the Philadelphia seventy six ers and Ben Simmons. So we figured, 24 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 2: rather than me gasbag about it, we'd bring in the 25 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 2: number one information guy in the business as it relates 26 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 2: to the NBA. He is my buddy, Shams Charinna. We 27 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 2: are such close friends that I spent the first appearance 28 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 2: that he was on with us. 29 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 4: This is his second appearance here on subpotted. 30 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 2: He congratulations to him, but we're such close friends that 31 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 2: I spent the entire first episode with him calling him Shams. 32 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 2: It is Shams Charinya with the Athletic also on Twitter 33 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 2: at Shop Charina. He's going to join us right now 34 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 2: to talk about what's going on with Doc Rivers, Darryl Moury, 35 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 2: Ben Simmons. He filed the report over the weekend that 36 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 2: teammates wanted to fly out to go see Ben Simmons. 37 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 2: Ben Simmons said, while I appreciate it, not necessary. I 38 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 2: ain't coming back. This relationship is done. It's a fascinating story. 39 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 2: This is a guy who is a defensive Player of 40 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 2: the Year, He's an All Star, He's talented, he just 41 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 2: can't take jump shots. 42 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 4: That's it. 43 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,679 Speaker 2: As a pretty big part of playing basketball as being 44 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 2: able to take a jump shop and hit a jump shop, 45 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 2: especially from three. Ben Simmons can't do either, and it 46 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 2: seems like he's unwilling to do anything for the Philadelphia 47 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 2: seventy six ers. So let's bring in Shams, who has 48 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 2: all the information, who's all over this story. Let's talk 49 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 2: to him about that and what's going on with COVID, 50 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 2: and we'll find out at the very end if he 51 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 2: agrees with me and Billy that's something just a little 52 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 2: off with the Kansas City chief. 53 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,679 Speaker 4: But huh nfl shops stupodoity. 54 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 3: How much free time do you have a day? 55 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 5: Like? 56 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 3: Do you ever get fifteen minutes where you're just not bothered? 57 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 6: Usually like late at night, you know, if it's late 58 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 6: at night, unless I know something's about to go down, 59 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 6: I usually have some time to kind of you know, 60 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 6: whether it's to watch a show, like I've started to 61 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 6: like binge watch shows, right, so you got you know, Ozark, 62 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 6: and I started watching the Monica Lewinsky series on FX, 63 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 6: So I'll watch stuff really late at night, Dave, It's 64 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 6: another show I like, you know, the Power shows and 65 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 6: Raising Kanaan and the Go Show. So like there's there's 66 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 6: always shows that I'll try to get on and watch 67 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 6: late at night, so that'll kind of be my I 68 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 6: guess free time are you? 69 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 2: Are you marveling at the Monica Lewinsky documentary the movie? 70 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 6: I haven't seen the last episode which I think aired, Yes, 71 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 6: I think it's what episode three or four? 72 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 5: I can't remember. 73 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 6: But it's insane that you know, someone in that kind 74 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 6: of high position, you know, would be in that type 75 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 6: of situation. 76 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 5: I mean, the whole thing just fascinates me. 77 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 6: So definitely, you know, is a one on one on 78 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 6: how to not behave in a work setting. 79 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 2: There was a time where during the Olympics Nancy Cahrigan 80 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 2: and Tanya Harding, Tanya Harding hired a hitman to take 81 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 2: out her main competition. 82 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 4: It'd be like Lebron hiring a hitman to take up 83 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 4: Kevin Durant right before the NBA finals. 84 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 2: And that would be that would be the story of 85 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 2: your lifetime, would it not? 86 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 4: Jobs? 87 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think. I don't think I'll ever be 88 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 5: able to cover that one. 89 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 6: Thank thankful I've covered you know, pandemic, and you know, 90 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 6: I never thought when I was first starting out that 91 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 6: i'd be covering coronavirus or virus cases or health related stuff. 92 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 6: You know, you think about your covering basketball the most 93 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 6: still covers you know, torn ligaments and ankles. 94 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 5: And things like that. 95 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 6: When it comes to health, you never think you're covering, 96 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 6: you know, viruses. 97 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 2: So crazy does it feel to you like it feels 98 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 2: to us me and Dann We're discussing this on the 99 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 2: show the other day, where it seems like we're about 100 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 2: to embark on our third NBA season in the year. 101 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 5: I mean it has been. 102 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 6: I was just it felt like just yesterday. I mean 103 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 6: I was preparing for this season, I was leaving. I 104 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 6: was still in the bubble this time, right a year ago. 105 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 5: I want to say, yeah, I mean I'm losing. 106 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 6: Track of time, but I was literally in the bubble 107 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 6: last year finishing up the nineteen twenty season, and then 108 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 6: right after that I got to the twenty twenty one 109 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 6: and now we are literally overlapping with our third NBA 110 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 6: season in a year. 111 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 5: So literally, you're right, Stu Goatts. 112 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 2: We'll get to the COVID stuff and the protocol and 113 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 2: have the NBA is going to deal with this and 114 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 2: the ten percent unvaccinated players causing headaches for the ninety 115 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 2: percent of the people who are vaccinated inside the league. 116 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 4: We'll get to that in a second. 117 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 2: I know you got some good stuff on it, but 118 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 2: I want to focus in here on Ben Simmons. You 119 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 2: file the report over the weekend for the atleane about 120 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 2: some of his teammates wanting to go out and visit 121 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 2: him and trying to get him to come back to Philadelphia. 122 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 2: Let's just start here, shobbs, how did we arrive at 123 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 2: where we are currently at with Ben Simmons and the 124 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 2: Philadelphia seventy sixers. 125 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, I would just say I feel like it's been 126 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 6: really lingering for a year now, right under the Brett 127 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 6: Brown regime, Brian Klanger, It's like it was always a conversation. 128 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 5: Then Darryl Mory takes over, and then. 129 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 6: You know, throughout ever since Darryl Moury took over last year, 130 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 6: you can kind of see the James Harden aspect hovering 131 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 6: right as if the you know, James Harden's big beard 132 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 6: was hovering around the entire city of Philadelphia for an 133 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 6: entire year, and you could always sense that there was 134 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 6: something that. 135 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 5: Might be coming down the pipeline with that. 136 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 6: And I remember I reported early in the season that 137 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 6: the Sixers had put Ben Simmons in trade talks with 138 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 6: the Rockets for James Harden, and Darryl Moury told me, 139 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 6: we are not trading Ben Simmons. 140 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 5: He is part of our future. And so you have 141 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 5: conflicting things. 142 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 6: Right on one hand, I trust my reporting, I trust 143 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 6: my sourcing that he was offered up, but then you 144 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 6: have the GM president of the team saying he wasn't. 145 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 6: So fast forward to the day James Harden was traded. 146 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 6: Ben Simmons was offered him Matisse table and two first 147 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 6: round picks was the Philadelphia seventy six ers off for 148 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 6: for James Harden. You know, James Harden, Tillman, and Fertita, 149 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 6: those guys had an open dialogue during that day and 150 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 6: they end up sending him to the Nets for that 151 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 6: package of picks, and and you know, ended up being 152 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 6: a larger deal with Indiana involved in Kris Laburt and 153 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 6: Victor Ladipo. So you know, you can kind of you know, 154 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 6: and once he doesn't get traded, then the question is 155 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 6: how do you move forward. 156 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 5: You have a guy who's a multi time All Star, a. 157 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 6: Guy that should be a part of your future long term, 158 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 6: but you clearly just tried to move him for a 159 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 6: top by a player. And again it's the business, but 160 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 6: I feel like feathers were always gonna be rouffled there. 161 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 6: And then as the year goes on, I feel like 162 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 6: everyone was always walking on eggshells from that moment, from 163 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 6: that whole year, and then the flame out happens in 164 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 6: the playoffs. But I think you saw Ben Simmons own 165 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 6: it after that Game seven. In some ways he said 166 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 6: I have to be better. He did hold trejungda I 167 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 6: believe five of twenty four shooting in Game seven. You know, 168 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 6: but everyone's gonna remember that that pass on the dunk attempt, 169 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:05,239 Speaker 6: and you know, I think, uh, you know, Ben Simmons 170 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 6: himself has made it clear to the seventy six ers 171 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 6: and members of that organization that he does not want 172 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 6: to be back. He feels like they've run their course, 173 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 6: you know, in a partnership together. And you know, I 174 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 6: think I wouldn't necessarily say that Ben Simmons will never 175 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 6: show up to the seventy six ers this entire season, 176 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 6: or that he has decided he won't play. 177 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 5: Out the year. 178 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 6: But I think I think one thing is for sure. 179 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 6: If he is back ever in Philadelphia. It's going to 180 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 6: be in street clothes, and that same mentally focused and 181 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 6: dedicated player that we've seen for years, he's just right 182 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 6: now where he stands with that organization. They're they're not 183 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 6: going to get that mentally engaged Ben Simmons, he's I 184 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,319 Speaker 6: report over the weekend, he's checked out of Philadelphia. 185 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 3: So last week Doc Rivers came on. 186 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 7: He spoke to us, to Gotts and he said that 187 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 7: he viewed the Bensimon situation as like it happens with 188 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 7: lots of other players. He was just so focused on 189 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 7: winning and then when it didn't happen, it was just 190 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 7: kind of how he reacted, and that he thought that 191 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 7: the situation was repairable and that he thought that they 192 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 7: could fix it. 193 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,319 Speaker 3: You don't think that's the case any longer. 194 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 5: No, I don't. 195 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 6: Now Again, they might and he has you know at 196 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 6: the end that he is under contract for four more 197 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 6: years at one hundred and almost fifty million dollars, So 198 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 6: there is a contractual obligation if he wants to get paid, 199 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 6: and no player doesn't want to see you know, that 200 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 6: amount of money. 201 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 5: So now could he go back at some point? 202 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:39,559 Speaker 6: I mean, I guess you can never rule it out, right, 203 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 6: you can never rule out I mean, listen, there have 204 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,559 Speaker 6: been players in the past that have sat, you know, 205 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 6: knowing that they. 206 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 5: Were going to be traded or there's trade talks going 207 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 5: on and said, listen, I have a back issue. I'm 208 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 5: not saying that's what's going to happen here, but you know, 209 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 5: you know. 210 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 6: That there's a potential of that because that has been 211 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 6: the president in past situations. But as far as just 212 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 6: you know, they can get Ben Simmons back in that door, possibly, 213 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 6: but are you going to get that same mentally engaged player, 214 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 6: that same guy that you know, besides those knickknack injuries 215 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 6: that he's had over the last several years. You know, 216 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 6: he's at the knee at different points, and you know 217 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 6: he's he's been durable for the most part and been 218 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 6: on the floor and they've been able to rely on 219 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 6: him to be a multi time All Star, a multi 220 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 6: time All Defensive team player, one time All NBA player. 221 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 6: You know they're not gonna you know, I don't think 222 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 6: that they're going to get that same Ben Simmons in Philadelphia. 223 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 5: Just at the end of the day, it's a mindset thing. 224 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 6: It's it's not even the fans, it's you know, I 225 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 6: don't even think it's him and Joel Embiid. You know, 226 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:42,959 Speaker 6: I really feel like Ben Simmons believes that his time 227 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 6: has run its course in Philadelphia, and he feels like 228 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 6: he goes into another situation and he's able to have 229 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 6: a fresh have a fresh start. 230 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 2: What's interesting about all of this is it appears that 231 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 2: it started with So you have a GM who's saying, no, 232 00:10:58,080 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 2: we're not trying to trade Ben Simmons, and then you 233 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 2: have Shaan's, a credible reporter, the most credible reporter we 234 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 2: have in the NBA, saying no, they tried to shop 235 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 2: them to Houston. And if Ben Simmons is absorbing all 236 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 2: of that, he's gonna believe you over Daryl Morey. He 237 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 2: understands it's a business, and Morey he's never going to 238 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 2: admit it. So I'm wondering, and there's no way of 239 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 2: really knowing this. If the mere rumor the mere report 240 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 2: by you that they were shopping Ben Simmons kind of 241 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 2: parlayed into his terrible postseason performance because he was upset 242 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 2: at the mere fact that they tried to trade him 243 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 2: in the first place. I mean it's a possibility. 244 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 5: Stu Gott. 245 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 6: He was looking at Holmes in Houston, Like he got 246 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:39,839 Speaker 6: to the point where him and his camp they were 247 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 6: searching for Holmes. 248 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 5: Wow, they're real estate agents involved. And you know, he 249 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 5: really believed. 250 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 6: He was going to be traded to the Rockets, and 251 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,839 Speaker 6: they they came close, and listen anytime, I don't even 252 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 6: begrudge Phiadelphia for trying. And I think he understands, you know, 253 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 6: Ben Simmons understanding is the business too, and I don't 254 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 6: begrudge them for trying to go get a James Harden. 255 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,199 Speaker 6: He's the top five player. You pair him with Joel 256 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 6: Embiid is a totally different game. But he remained professionally, 257 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 6: continue to play out the season and even when Darryl 258 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 6: Mory was hired. I actually reported a week after that that, 259 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 6: you know, pay attention, the Sixers will pursue James Harden. 260 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 6: And so again it was always as if his beard 261 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 6: was a shadow. 262 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 5: All across the city of Philadelphia, and it was like 263 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 5: will it happen or won't happen? And it didn't happen. 264 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 6: I think for that reason, you know, I think Ben 265 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 6: Simmons understood where he sitting with the organization. And again 266 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 6: this was a topic that went back and really predated 267 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 6: Darryl Moury. You know, even with Brett when Brett Brown 268 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 6: was the head coach, the question was could he make 269 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 6: Joel Embiid and Ben Simmons work, And they gave Doc Rivers, 270 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 6: you know, a first top first year head coach there, 271 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 6: you know, a chance, and for the for. 272 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 5: Most of the year it looked like it was going 273 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 5: to work. 274 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 6: They should have been in the Eastern Conference Finals last year, 275 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 6: There's no question about it, and unfortunately they lost that 276 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:58,479 Speaker 6: game seven. 277 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 2: Where Ben has to be frustrated though so he understand 278 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 2: it's a business, as you pointed out, so the trade 279 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 2: ruins could probably deal with. What I think he probably 280 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 2: could not deal with is yes, he didn't have a 281 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 2: great playoff performance, but Doc and Joel mb did not 282 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 2: do him any favors in terms of wanting him to 283 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 2: stay long term. The way they reacted to his performance 284 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 2: post game. That like to me that that's the thing 285 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 2: that drove Ben Simmons away from this organization. 286 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 6: I think it was definitely a stinger, right like would 287 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 6: you would you get uh, you know, thrown under the 288 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 6: bus by you know your head coach, and your and 289 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 6: your you know your co star, your your your best player, 290 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 6: the best player on your team. I think it'd be 291 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 6: ingenuine for me to say that that it wasn't a factor, 292 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 6: that it isn't something that Ben Simmons heard or thought about. 293 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 6: And I think you saw him take a little bit 294 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 6: of uh, you know, accountability. 295 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 5: After the game, saying I have to be better. 296 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 6: And listen, we've all seen that same you know, the 297 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 6: video of him shooting jumpers in the offseason, and you know, 298 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 6: I hope, you know, I think NBA fans probably hope 299 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:00,959 Speaker 6: that that's the type of players that they see this 300 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 6: upcoming year whenever he does go back in a jersey, 301 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 6: because that type of Ben. 302 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 5: Simmons is super dynamic. 303 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:07,719 Speaker 2: All right, So play this out with me for just 304 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:09,719 Speaker 2: a second, Choce, what are Ben's options like? 305 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 4: So, because you're right, there's a. 306 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 2: Lot of money at stake and the only way he's 307 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 2: going to get that money is by playing basketball. 308 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 4: So what are his options? 309 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 6: I mean, he can continue to sit out and and 310 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 6: you know, the CBA gives the Sixers a lot of leverage. 311 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 5: They're able to find him per day that. 312 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 6: He misses practice or a team activity, a team event, 313 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 6: they can withhold his pay for games missed. So there's 314 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 6: a lot of levers that the Sixers can pull over 315 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 6: the next several months to make. 316 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 5: Ben bleed a little bit and see if he. 317 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 6: Does come back to the table and come back into 318 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 6: the locker room and come back on the floor. And again, 319 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 6: the flip side to that is Ben Simmons like, listen, 320 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 6: even if I'm back, I'm not going to be that 321 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 6: same engaged guy. And again, these are Ben Simmons's wishes 322 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 6: and his representation, Rich Paul's agent. You know, he could 323 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 6: have his own set of opinions on how to handle this. 324 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 6: But the end of the day, Ben, if this is 325 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 6: how Ben Simmons feels, You're you're at the kind of 326 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 6: mercy of your client and trying to make sure that 327 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 6: you can navigate the situation the best that you know 328 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 6: you see fit with that. So I think his options 329 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 6: are going to be either you show up or at 330 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 6: some point the Sixers are going to have to pull 331 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 6: those levers of withholding game checks and whatnot. But listen, 332 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 6: when you look at it from a Sixers perspective, nothing's changed. 333 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 6: They don't have anything that's imminent in trade talks. You know, 334 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 6: you hear teams that might have a level of interest. 335 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 6: But the Sixers from the outset, since I reported in 336 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 6: July that they opened up trade talks, they've wanted star 337 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 6: talent back. They feel like Ben Simmons an All star. 338 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 6: We're trading a guy like that. We want, you know, 339 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 6: something that will make us infinitely, you know, infinitely better 340 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 6: than not having him around, right, And so I think 341 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 6: that that's what they're going to keep pursuing. 342 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 2: You reported to The Athletic over the weekend that players 343 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 2: wanted to go out, including Joel have Been and try 344 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 2: to recruit Ben Simmons to come to Philadelphia. 345 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 6: What happened there, Yeah, I mean the players all went well. 346 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 6: The players didn't go. The players wanted to take a 347 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 6: private jet fly to LA to go meet with Ben 348 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 6: Simmons face to face and see if they can pitch 349 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 6: him on coming back, but Ben Simmons politely declined, told them, listen, 350 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 6: you know it's not worth the commute. 351 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 5: Of going from Philadelphia to LA to get the answer. 352 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 6: I'll give it to you. I'm not don't come. I 353 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 6: haven't changed my stance. And he did not want to 354 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 6: meet with them. And again, it's just another way where 355 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 6: he's made it clear. 356 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 5: I don't think he. 357 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 6: Has anything personal with these guys, but he's made his 358 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 6: intention his desire clear now on the Flippand if I'm 359 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 6: those players, I would have just flown to La regardless 360 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 6: and just show Yeah. I'm sure you can find his 361 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 6: address or figure it out somehow someone. 362 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 5: In the organization knows his address and just pull up. 363 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 6: Like imagine Joel and b Tobias Harris, Danny Green, Matisse, 364 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 6: tible Tyres Maxley, all those guys showing up at Ben's house. 365 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 5: It's like, how do you say no to that? 366 00:16:58,160 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 4: Right? 367 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 5: But again, they did not end up doing that. 368 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 6: They ended up, you know, not showing up, not going 369 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 6: and Ben Simmons made it clear that he did not 370 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 6: want to meet. 371 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 4: So you're credible and I'm not, so I will speculate. 372 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 4: You don't have to. 373 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 2: I believe Ben is so upset by having teammates and 374 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 2: Doc Rivers treated him in the organization that he's just 375 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 2: simpinitely trying to minimize his trade value, Like, hey, you're 376 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 2: gonna trade me, I ain't playing, and I'm going to 377 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 2: make it as difficult as I had for you to 378 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 2: get real value back for me. 379 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, listen, he made that trade demand at 380 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 6: June at the NBA Draft. Combine, his agent Rich Paul 381 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 6: told Darryl Moreyan the Sixers that Ben. 382 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 5: Wanted to move. You know, I'm told it happened in June. 383 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 6: So the fact that we're now kind of surf you know, 384 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 6: it's no surface that you know, it's gotten to the 385 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 6: point where he won't even show up to training camp 386 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 6: and he won't even meet with teammates. I think listen, 387 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 6: they had probably a two or three month window where 388 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 6: they could have traded him cleanly. But listen, as training 389 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 6: camps get closed, there's a reason why he's. 390 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 5: Not showing up. And this is the reason why. 391 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 2: All right, how do you see it playing out? Like, 392 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 2: how do you see this whole thing? 393 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 5: Stu gotts? I don't even you know, you know me, 394 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 5: I'd rather know what's going on. 395 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 6: But before speaking on it, like I It could go 396 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 6: several ways. He could show up and sit on the 397 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 6: bench in street clothes to get his money. 398 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 5: He could sit out the whole year and not get 399 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 5: his money. 400 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 6: He could be traded next week for a you know, 401 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 6: a less lucrative package. But Darryl Morey and the Sixer 402 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 6: stands has been, we're not trading Ben Simmons unless we 403 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 6: get what we want. 404 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 5: If that's really their stance, this could go on for 405 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 5: a while. 406 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 2: Is it safe to say that if they took Jason 407 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 2: Tatum instead of Mark l Foltz, we'd never be in 408 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 2: this position because they had a chance to get Tatum, 409 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 2: and if they got Tatum, Ben Simmons wouldn't have to 410 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 2: hit you man, I know, man, I just like that, 411 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 2: like that speculation. 412 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:47,360 Speaker 6: Yes, I mean, just imagine Jayson Tatum on this team 413 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 6: Ben Simmons. 414 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 5: They would love Benson. They would love the role that 415 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 5: he plays on. 416 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 6: This team, defense and blocking shots and rebounding and passing. 417 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 6: You know, but they they've never been able to find 418 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 6: that third score. I think they had that in Jimmy Butler, right, 419 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 6: they had that guy that they could rely on. But 420 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 6: then even there there was tension. You know, who would 421 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 6: have the ball in their hands laden games? The Sixers 422 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 6: at that time wanted to be Ben Simmons, but Jimmy 423 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 6: Butler emerges the guy that they're going to give the 424 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 6: ball to. So, you know, hindsight twenty twenty, you probably 425 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 6: let one of the other guys walk and keep Jimmy Butler, 426 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 6: but they go all in with Tobias Harrison Al Horford. 427 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 6: So all these decisions, all the stuff that kind of 428 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 6: happened in previous years has now kind of come back 429 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 6: and bit them now. 430 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 4: Man, this is so trucky. 431 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 2: It's a difficult one because I think we both agree 432 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 2: on the Tatum stuff, Like, if they have Tatum, this 433 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 2: doesn't exist. I happen to think Dan and I were 434 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 2: discussing this that Golden State because I think his days 435 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 2: in Philly are done. 436 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 4: I don't think I'm with you. 437 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 2: I think if he shows up, it's hey, I'm here 438 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 2: in street clothes, trade me. I ain't playing, and eventually 439 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 2: they're going to trade him. I think a perfect fit. 440 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 2: Now they don't think so, at least the reports said 441 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 2: they don't think so. I think Golden State would be 442 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 2: a perfect fit. He doesn't have to hit jump shots there, 443 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 2: even if it had to be Draymond Green, because that's 444 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,360 Speaker 2: a guy who can just drive into the paint, kick 445 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 2: it out the staf, kick it out to Clay, kick 446 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:02,880 Speaker 2: it out to the other three point shooters. 447 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,360 Speaker 4: To me, that's a great spot for Ben Simmons. 448 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean that that would be a great situation Minnesota. 449 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. 450 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 5: I mean I think you can look at several. 451 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 6: Situations that he played really well on and I think 452 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 6: that's the part that you know, for Golden State, it's like, 453 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 6: do you have what Philadelphia would want? 454 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 5: Right? 455 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 6: Like, does Draymond and other players get it done? 456 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 5: I'm not sure. 457 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 6: I think that they want a guy that can help 458 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 6: them now and score and you know, be an All Star. 459 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 6: Does you know, does a package around Wiggins and James 460 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 6: Wiseman work? 461 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:33,439 Speaker 5: I don't know, I can't. 462 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 6: I just it doesn't seem like there's a deal there 463 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 6: to be had with Golden State. You know, from people 464 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 6: that I've talked to, those two teams haven't even had 465 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 6: many discussions at all. 466 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 7: So the big story this week is obviously what's going 467 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 7: on with Kyrie and the Nets. Is it possible that 468 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 7: he just doesn't play home games this season? 469 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 6: I mean, anything is possible, right, I mean, I think 470 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 6: you know, you look at you know, Kyrie in Brooklyn, 471 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 6: you look at Andrew Wiggins in San Francisco with the Warriors, 472 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 6: and you know, because of the local mandates, if they 473 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 6: don't play in their home games, if they're not vaccinated, 474 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 6: they can't play in their home games. And now today 475 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 6: Mike Bass, the NBA spoke spokesperson, he came out and 476 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 6: said that you know, if a player isn't uh, you know, 477 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 6: abiding by local vaccination mandates and misses games. 478 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 5: Because of it, he will not be paid. 479 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 6: And I think basically you play to get paid at 480 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 6: home if you're in one of those two city markets. 481 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 6: So that impacts the Nets, the Knicks, the Warriors. So 482 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 6: is there a chance, of course there is because you know, 483 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 6: both players are still in the same predicament. But again, 484 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 6: I think everything moves so fluid. 485 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 5: It is a day to day thing. For sure. 486 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 2: How big of a problem is the ten percent who 487 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,959 Speaker 2: are unvaccinated in the NBA. How big of a problem 488 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 2: is this becoming for the NBA. 489 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 6: I think it says something that some of these voices, right, 490 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 6: you have the Bradley Beal and Andrew Wiggins and Kyrie 491 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 6: Irving that that are you know this, I think the 492 00:21:56,840 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 6: spotlight has turned to Jonathan Isaac. I mean that's four guys. 493 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 6: I think you know, you have to look at it. 494 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 6: Ninety percent of the NBA is vaccinated. Ninety two percent 495 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 6: i'm told has gotten at least one shot, So you know, 496 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 6: you're looking at a ten percent crops. That's what forty 497 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 6: to fifty players that aren't vaccinated. And again I think 498 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 6: it's it's going to be loud in the cities that 499 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 6: are impacted by vaccination mandate, so San Francisco, New York City. 500 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 6: But at the end of the day, I think that 501 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 6: you're looking at small pockets of guys that are not vaccinated. 502 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 6: And for the NBA, it's not a problem. If if 503 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 6: it was the other way around and only ten percent 504 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 6: of vaccinated to guys, I tell you, uh, there's a 505 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 6: serious problem here, but it's it's not quite that yet. 506 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,719 Speaker 6: But again, you never want guys a Kyrie Irving and 507 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 6: Andrew Wiggins and two major markets, two major teams sitting 508 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 6: out you know, the prospect of them sitting out home games. 509 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,199 Speaker 6: But I think again, I think the league has to 510 00:22:56,320 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 6: keep you know, informing their players, providing education. But I 511 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,360 Speaker 6: don't view it as a as an issue. I view 512 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 6: it as clearly you know, a topic and a storyline 513 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 6: just based on that there are two major guys impacted here. 514 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 2: So I know you tweeted out an NBA spokespersus Mike 515 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 2: Bass at something today which was interesting news. Why don't 516 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 2: you go ahead and share that news with with what 517 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,479 Speaker 2: Mike Bass tweeted out, because this, to me, this is 518 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 2: fascinating and this should get players to play. 519 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 4: They don't want to miss pay checks. 520 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, let's just read the statement. 521 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 6: It says, any player who elects not to comply with 522 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 6: local vaccination mandates will not be paid for games that 523 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 6: he misses. So you know, if you have a player 524 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 6: in either New York City or San Francisco with either 525 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 6: of those three teams and you don't play home games, 526 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 6: you miss out on half of your game game salary. 527 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 6: So guy like Kurt Kyrie Irving, I mean, he stands 528 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 6: to lose. You know, I've gone off and on trying 529 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 6: to do the math. 530 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 4: Many millions, like seventeen. 531 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's like seventeen million plus half of his salaries 532 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 6: over seventeen million dollars. You know, Andrew Wiggins, you know, 533 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 6: similar situation. I think his is close to success sixteen millions. 534 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 6: So Jesus again for me, I view it as this, 535 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 6: each player is entitled to their own decision. They're they're 536 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 6: entitled to deciding. 537 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 5: Whatever they want to do with their body, right and 538 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 5: I'm not here to judge anyone. I'm here to you know. 539 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 6: You report on the news and report on basketball, and 540 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 6: you know, but of course if if home games are 541 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 6: missed and games are being impacted, then it becomes a 542 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 6: storyline in the NBA and basketball. 543 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 4: How real were the rumors of Tyrie for Ben Simmons? 544 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 4: Was that? Was that real? 545 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 5: I never heard it? Stu got so never, It's never 546 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 5: come across my desk. 547 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:38,479 Speaker 4: Billy, what do we do here? Because very politely? Oh, 548 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 4: I didn't make it up. There were shops, there were 549 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 4: real reports out, there were the. 550 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 5: Or not Listen. I think I'm gonna let Billy handle this. 551 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 4: No, no, no, I like what you're doing. 552 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 2: You're like, no, Stecott's the only fucking real report is 553 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 2: when I reported I don't care what anybody. 554 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 3: Tell me that in your game, it's a scam. 555 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 5: I haven't. I hadn't come across that with. 556 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 4: Any you know, Well, how do you feel much? 557 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 2: Let's gets okay, let's speculate for a second, because how 558 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 2: do you feel about us arriving at a point where 559 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 2: Kyrie Irving might miss home games, might not play, doesn't 560 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 2: want to play, even though we all know he's gonna 561 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 2: play because it's Kyrie being Kyrie. Okay, But Kevin Durant, 562 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 2: if all of these reports are true and I realized 563 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 2: they didn't come from you, if Kevin Durant could block 564 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 2: a trade that would make his team better, because I'm 565 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 2: telling you, Durant hearted Ben Simmons, they win five championships together. 566 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 2: So how do you feel about arriving at a point 567 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 2: where Kevin Durant is running the nets, not the owner. 568 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 6: Hey, listen, I don't know if I don't know what's 569 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 6: going on over there, But what I can't tell you is, 570 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 6: you know, in today's game, guys like Lebron, Kevin Durant, 571 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 6: I mean, you know you you. 572 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 5: Want those guys to have say and. 573 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 6: You want to have their voices or we actually just 574 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 6: did a sort on the Athletic the other day on 575 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 6: the Lakers and them, you know, their whole offseason and 576 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 6: it's been interesting, you know behind the scenes. You know 577 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 6: Rob Polinka, their president, you know, vice president of basket operations. 578 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 6: He's he's been very vocal publicly privately about how he 579 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 6: goes to. 580 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 5: Lebron, James and Anthony Davis to get their opinion. 581 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 6: So again, I don't think this is any you know, 582 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 6: I don't think it's a new concept that you know, 583 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 6: star players are having their voices earn. 584 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 4: How does the league feel about Kyrie Irving? 585 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 2: Like, have a guys, guys that you speak to, guys 586 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 2: in general, just how do they feel about Kyrie? Because 587 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 2: he's very popular with the younger demographic. He annoys the 588 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 2: hell out of me, But how does the league feel 589 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 2: about him? 590 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,919 Speaker 6: I mean, listen, I think go back to last summer, right, 591 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 6: he led a lot of those calls for social justice 592 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,919 Speaker 6: and trying to figure out ways that the NBA and 593 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,199 Speaker 6: their players can make a stand. 594 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 5: And I know at one point. 595 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 6: You know, he had gotten about eighty five ninety players 596 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 6: on a call and talked about the possibility of sitting 597 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 6: games and walking out of this season, you know, to 598 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 6: stand up when you know, the racial tension was really 599 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,439 Speaker 6: high in the country and social justice was was at 600 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 6: the forefront of all of our minds and hopefully continues 601 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 6: to be. But you know, and then you know, fast 602 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 6: forward a few months later, and you know, the Milwaukee 603 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 6: Bucks walk out and Kyrie Irving. 604 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 5: You know, I remember that night. 605 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,959 Speaker 6: He was like one of the top trends on on 606 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 6: social platforms. Like that to me speaks to at least 607 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 6: his his you know, his his stance and his He's 608 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 6: never going to shy away from taking a stand on 609 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 6: what he believes is right. And I think there is 610 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 6: a level of respect from people, at least players, his 611 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 6: his peers, his coworkers about the stand that he takes. 612 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 4: Sean Cherena with us. 613 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 2: Check out his work at the Athletic on Twitter at 614 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 2: seam chareny'all get you out here in in just a second, 615 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 2: give me a just give me a move offseason free agency. 616 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 2: Hopefully it's the next something that kind of flew under 617 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 2: the radar that you thought, hey, that's a sneaky good move. 618 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 6: I mean, I hate to say, you know, we keep 619 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 6: talking about the Nets, but I mean the way that 620 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 6: they got la Marcus Alderge back out of retirement, Paul Millsap, 621 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,719 Speaker 6: you know, an all star. I mean you really look 622 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 6: at them and the Lakers. I think the Lakers have 623 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,640 Speaker 6: the most All Stars of any team in the history 624 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,880 Speaker 6: of the league. Like Dave stacked up and everyone's gonna 625 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 6: look at their age. But I mean for the Nets 626 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,919 Speaker 6: to go get you know, a bunch of all stars themselves. 627 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,159 Speaker 5: Blake Griffin. I really like the Paul Mills that pick up. 628 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 6: He had more money on the table with the Bulls 629 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 6: with Philadelphia earlier in the offseason, I was told, and 630 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 6: then he goes and takes a minimum contract with Brooklyn. 631 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 6: I think to go win a championship. And I think 632 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:21,679 Speaker 6: that does say a lot to me. 633 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 2: If I tell you Kyrie doesn't play a single game 634 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 2: for the Nets, but Harden and Durant both stay healthy, 635 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 2: they still win the title. 636 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 5: Right, Hey, I mean you're without one of your top player. 637 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 5: I don't I don't think that's a shoeing. 638 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 6: I think that if you're without I mean, we saw 639 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 6: what happened last year in the playoffs, right Like, if 640 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 6: they're down one of those guys, they're in a little 641 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 6: bit of trouble, maybe even a lot of trouble. Last year, 642 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 6: you know, James is basically playing on one leg. James 643 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 6: Harden was, and so you had basically Kevin Durant out 644 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 6: there trying to beat the Bucks with you know, a 645 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 6: little bit of additional help. 646 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 5: But if they don't have those three. 647 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 6: Guys healthy ready to go, at least another guy would 648 00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 6: be fully healthy for them to have a chance. I 649 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 6: don't think they're showing for title with with one of 650 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 6: those guys out. 651 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 4: All right, let's get you out of here. 652 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 2: He's the best in the business at cham Charana on Twitter. 653 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 2: Also the Athletic check out his work there. Anything else 654 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 2: you want to promote before we get you out of here? 655 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 6: Athletics Stadium, you know we have we have, you know 656 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 6: a lot of video stuff coming up and brewing on 657 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 6: stadium and obviously Athletic on the writing side, so excited 658 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 6: for a whole whole new season coming up here. 659 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 5: Stuo guts the. 660 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 4: Third season in one year. 661 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 2: By the way, next time we have you on, I 662 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 2: don't know, like Billy, do you think we could pull 663 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 2: this off? 664 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 4: I don't want to talk any basketball with him. 665 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 2: There's got to be other things he's interested in, like 666 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 2: television shows and Tanya Harding and Nancy Grrittan. 667 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 4: Can we do that with you next time? 668 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 5: Jobs Hey, I'm Domble. Let's set it up. You might 669 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 5: have to be on a weekend. 670 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 2: But that's why I want people to get a chance 671 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 2: to know you. And I think you like you love 672 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 2: other sports, and you have opinions on other things, and 673 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 2: I would like that stuff to come out. 674 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 5: Let's do it. I'm down. I just showed for Patrick 675 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 5: Mahomes on my fantasy football team. Last week I traded. 676 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 6: I traded Josh Allen and I think his name is 677 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 6: Noah font no offense with the I. 678 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,959 Speaker 2: Think no Offen, that tight up from Denver. So what 679 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 2: you did is you upgraded. Appreciate you got it quarterback. 680 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 6: Okay, Travis Kelsey is my tight end. So I'm like, yo, 681 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 6: I can upgrade that quarterback, keep my tight end. 682 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 5: I'm good. Josh Allen had a big week last week, 683 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 5: so it was tough for me. I was like, damn it, man, 684 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 5: what am I doing? But hopefully it turns around. It's 685 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 5: only one week. 686 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 3: Have you been watching Mahomes and things. 687 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 7: Something's a little off this season, just a little off, 688 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 7: maybe a loss of step. 689 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 6: I can't say I've been watching as intently as probably 690 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 6: you guys have, but uh, I mean, listen, he threw 691 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 6: for a couple of picks last week. I mean, I'm 692 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 6: up right now. He's my quarterback on my fancy team, 693 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 6: So I'm hopeful. I'm hoping for for Turner on Billy. 694 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 2: But a couple of picks that sounds like a yes Billy. 695 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 2: In fact, put that in God blessed football. Okay, he's 696 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 2: reporting that he's reporting. Can you reward that Mahomes is 697 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 2: a little bit off? Just say, just say Mahomes is 698 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 2: a little bit off. 699 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 5: Hopefully not. I don't want to report that. I'm not reporting. 700 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 4: All right, fantasy football next time. And that's it. 701 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 5: Okay, let's do it. Let's do it, alight. 702 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 2: Jops, I see your phone. I see you staring at 703 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,719 Speaker 2: your phone. I see it buzzing. You wasted a lot 704 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 2: of out today. 705 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 4: I get the hell out of here. Thank you for 706 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 4: the information. 707 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 3: Thank you, guys. 708 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 4: Well, you heard it here first from the number one 709 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 4: information guy in our industry. You heard it here first. 710 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 4: There was something off with the Kansas City chiefs Stupodoy