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Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of I Heart Radio Zen.

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Speaker 1: You know it's ridiculous. I do. Actually, did you know

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Speaker 1: I love that. Yeah, I thought you would. Oh, I

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Speaker 1: your Elliott. Okay, he'll dig it. He's no, he's notes.

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Speaker 1: And also, like with the Lamptops, like the full on

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Speaker 1: blaxplitation issue, ridiculous, straight up mark that ridiculous. Um, it's

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Speaker 1: also ridiculously awesome to hijack a TV signal? How so,

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Speaker 1: what do you mean hijack a TV signal? Like when

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Speaker 1: I'm getting free cable close. I'll get into that, but

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Speaker 1: it's it's ridiculously awesome, so it's ridiculous. It's also a felony. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I like those. This is Ridiculous Crime a podcast about

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Speaker 1: absurd and outrageous capers, heists and cons. It's always murder

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Speaker 1: free and one ridiculous excuse me, Sarin, do you watch

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Speaker 1: a lot of TV? Yes? Elizabeth in back row? What

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Speaker 1: was your question? Yeah, quick question? Do you watch a

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Speaker 1: lot of TV? Ah? Yes, I've been asked this many times,

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Speaker 1: and as I've told people in the past, It depends

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Speaker 1: yes on other days, that makes sense. Follow up, cook,

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Speaker 1: call up Yes, Elizabeth the back row. Thank you. What

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Speaker 1: are some of your favorite shows? Good question. I'm glad

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Speaker 1: you asked. I know it's a really really um let's see.

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Speaker 1: I like Rockford Files, Magnum p I, Barnaby Jones, Um No, honestly,

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Speaker 1: these Days, The Last Kingdom. I like that show a

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Speaker 1: lot um Black Sales, it's about pirate. How do you

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Speaker 1: feel about the hit Fox television show nine one one? Oh,

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Speaker 1: you mean the best show ever on TV? You mean

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Speaker 1: my favorite that? That's your line. I'm sorry, that's what

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Speaker 1: you would say. You like a lot of eighties TV shows.

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Speaker 1: It sounds I like seventies and eighties detective shows because

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Speaker 1: they were like crazy violent and the plots are bizarre

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Speaker 1: and you're just like, oh, don't shoot that nun, and

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Speaker 1: then they shoot the nun. You just can't get that anymore.

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Speaker 1: Give nun shooting nobodyots like magnap I will pop a

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Speaker 1: nun off a ladder with no time, without even hesitation,

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Speaker 1: he said, I gotta do this. Nuns don't work on

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Speaker 1: Sunday Boom. They're like four a season that literally was

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Speaker 1: a quote, by the way, nuns don't work on Sunday,

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Speaker 1: this why I watch them. TV now is way different

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Speaker 1: from eighties TV. You're not gonna see Isaac Hayes on.

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Speaker 1: I mean, like Isaac has be on a Rockford Files episode.

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Speaker 1: That's Isaac anymore. I mean one, he's dead. But that's

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Speaker 1: the biggest project, the hardest part about casting him. Well,

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Speaker 1: then we're gonna have to have hologram versions. Oh yes,

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Speaker 1: you know, then need to get Tupac. Yeah, well he

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Speaker 1: needs to be in everything. Well he's still alive though, Okay,

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Speaker 1: so I'm sorry eight TV. Remember the big thing in

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Speaker 1: HBO launches like late seventies. But by the eighties everybody

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Speaker 1: So uh the thing is just like now, people weren't

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Speaker 1: I can smell the free on Where do you want

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Speaker 1: West philadel Here you are in Philly. You're staying up late.

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Speaker 1: You're watching Peewee's Big Adventure on HBO. It's a cowboy

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Speaker 1: movies over credits roll. Sean Penn's thriller The Falcon and

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Speaker 1: everyone's mind. Cool Ranch Derito's. That sounds zesties. You gotta

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Speaker 1: good evening HBO. Underneath that says from Captain Midnight okay,

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Speaker 1: underneath that twelve ninety five a month question mark, under

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Speaker 1: that no way exclamation point, and then in brackets beneath

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Speaker 1: that showtime slash movie channel beware exclamation point. Oh right,

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Speaker 1: Inside punishment, you've been getting it free. Now you've got

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Speaker 1: it's cold blooded. HBO is cold blooded, but it's you know,

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Speaker 1: The message doesn't change your move, like where's my Sean pen?

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Speaker 1: This is bogus man. But where's my Sean Penn? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I want Meanwhile, down in Florida, there's a man. His

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Speaker 1: name's John McDougall. McDougall. He sits at this computer console

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Speaker 1: at the Central Florida Teleport in Oakalla, Florida. He's an engineer,

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Speaker 1: now at the HBO offices up in Long Island, they're

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Speaker 1: Like there's a guy with like a giant dial the

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Speaker 1: these turning it up up hundred and twenty five watts.

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Speaker 1: McDougald matches them and upset. Everyone's hair is standing up

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Speaker 1: respect you for it. Thank you. So HBO turns it up.

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Speaker 1: Every time HBO ups the wattage, McDougal returns fire. Are

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Speaker 1: on your house in Philly watch pre Sun everything they

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Speaker 1: lubricate that with as you said, the subsidies and the corn.

419
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 1: They're like, we got all this corn, what we do

420
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 1: with it? Totally put it in sodas and everything and everything. Yeah,

421
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 1: I remember this one, my mother. They had the nutrition journals,

422
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,880
Speaker 1: remember when high food test carent syrup was first being studied.

423
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 1: But go on interesting bathroom reading. Yeah, that's fun. I

424
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 1: don't know where to go with that. Max. So this

425
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 1: is all I'm the reason I'm giving you this backstory.

426
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 1: So you understand Max Headroom was in the ads for

427
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: New Coke and he had the catchphrase in those ads,

428
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: catch the waves. Yeah, that's going to come up later.

429
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,360
Speaker 1: And want you to stick that in your pocket now.

430
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 1: The other thing I want you to do is open

431
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 1: your mind's eye, a deep breath, and picture this. You

432
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: live in Chicago. Oh god, it's cold. It's Sunday night, November.

433
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,719
Speaker 1: You're wearing a Bear's hat. You're holding a portrait of

434
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 1: Mike Ditka, Yeah, like I normally do. You're eating Deep

435
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 1: Dish pizza while you watch the nine o'clock news on

436
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 1: w g and TV. So I'm just living my best life,

437
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 1: is what you're telling me. You are all fired up

438
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:06,400
Speaker 1: because the Bears beat the Detroit Lions that afternoon. Arm right,

439
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 1: your favorite sportscaster Don Ron is talking about the Bears,

440
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,919
Speaker 1: and you're reliving the excitement of the game. Peyton had

441
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: a great day. All of a sudden, your screen goes black.

442
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 1: What is it? There? You are in your house staring

443
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 1: at a dark screen. What happened to Peyton? You're right?

444
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 1: You get up and you smack the side of the TV.

445
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: Put Peyton, you take a ciphic from your can of

446
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 1: old style. It's just gonna rally up a little bit more.

447
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: Then suddenly an image appears. It's not Peyton. Now at

448
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: the TV is silent. You're the only one yelling at

449
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 1: this point. And then this guy in a latex max

450
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: headroom Halloween masks, nods, his head, bounces a bit on

451
00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: the screen for like twenty eight seconds, and then vanishes.

452
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 1: Dan Ron. Did they call him Don Ron either? No? Yeah,

453
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: it's Dan Ron. I'm really gone by Don Ron. Really

454
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: dropped the ball there. I'm going to have to write

455
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: him a letter about that. Dan Ron, a k a.

456
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: Don Ron, the sportscaster comes back on the screen and says, well,

457
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: if you're wondering what happened, so am I. The whole

458
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 1: thing is totally weird. Two hours later, all the way

459
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: across town, I want you to picture something new, okay,

460
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: isn't Jim McMahon, Yes, you're another Chicago resident. This time

461
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 1: I have to do my picture of voice. You're settled

462
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: in for the evening, excited to watch your favorite show

463
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: on your local PDS affiliate w T t w Yes,

464
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go put it on, perform myself some hot

465
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: tea and watch Doctor Who. Yes, you know you're casually

466
00:29:55,160 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: enjoying an Italian beef sandwich, maybe a glass of buttery. Jordan,

467
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know how you live. You've

468
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: seen this episode a couple of times before. He loved

469
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 1: the mystery and the suspense of the fang Rock lighthouse

470
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: in the story. You are a wistful and imaginative type.

471
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: Be there in that moment. I'm so They're like, I

472
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: am just feeling the Doctor Who vibes surround him. Suddenly,

473
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: Doctor Who cuts out. You stare at the TV like

474
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 1: a little confused rabbit completely. Then an image appears. It's

475
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 1: that same dime store max headroom, only this time there's sound.

476
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:38,719
Speaker 1: Now let's pause in that traumatic moment and here's some ads,

477
00:30:39,320 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: and then we'll get right back to it. Okay, Sarin.

478
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,719
Speaker 1: When we last met, Yes, I was in Chicago. I

479
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: was sitting there. I've just been watching my Bears game,

480
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: rooting for McMahon. All of a sudden, some dude and

481
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 1: a rubber mask pops on my TV and I can't see,

482
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: Like Dan Rone telling me the update on how the

483
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: Bears won, which I had just watched. Then you're watching

484
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: Doctor Who, sitting in a puddle of your own urine

485
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: because I'm so excited, so thrilled. You're about to watch

486
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: Doctor Who. The screen cuts out, and then someone in

487
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: a max headroom mask appears, the same guy from before?

488
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: What the he speaks? He says, he's a freaking nerd?

489
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: Is he talking to me? Now? Wait? How did how

490
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: did you just do that voice? Because I'm really good

491
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: at impersonations? You know that that was really weird? Yeah?

492
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,959
Speaker 1: It was Have you heard my Doctor Who impersonation? Can

493
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: you can you lay a little bit on me? Yeah,

494
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: I'll listen ahead, Hey have about its mate? Talctor? Who?

495
00:31:55,840 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: Whoa man? Right? M? And I like a phone booth

496
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: of Socome so good? It's weird, is though? Is that

497
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: sounds like every Doctor Who, all all twenty nine of them.

498
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: It's amazing. I'm amazing, is what I'm trying to say.

499
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, so I I'll give you the max Hedrom

500
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: voice just because I've been working on it for a

501
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: long time. Okay, So max Hedrom bops up and down.

502
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: There's like this weird sheet of corrugated metal behind him

503
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: that someone's tilting back and forth, kind of like one

504
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: of those tax preparation signs are like new homes where

505
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: they spin it. They're just going back and forth. And

506
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: the metal, I guess is supposed to look like TV

507
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: static in the background. So phony Max shouts some just

508
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: like gibberish. You can't really hear what he's saying. Then

509
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: he bends down and he picks up a can of pepsi.

510
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: And here's another fun fact. On the hand that's holding

511
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: up the pepsi, he has a fake penis on his

512
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:55,719
Speaker 1: middle finger. Now that's you know, so is that a

513
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: fake penis for pepsi? Her fake penis to coke? I

514
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: don't even quote grain. I don't know if it's like

515
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: an impromptu splint because he broke his middle finger and

516
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: he needed a penis to heal it. He stuck it,

517
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: you know who knows. I don't question the arts like

518
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: you do. So he's holding up this canopepsi with a

519
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: fake dong on his middle finger, and he yells, catched

520
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: the wave. How do you do that? It's so good? Right,

521
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: just my throat. After that, Max Headroom shouts the slogan

522
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: for new Coke and he holds up the penis middle

523
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: finger while leaning towards the camera and moaning, this is

524
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: doctor who. Then he hums the theme song from this

525
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: like nineties sixties cartoon called Clutch Cargo. Okay, admittedly I

526
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: have never heard of that show, nor have I Okay,

527
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: thank you. Yeah, I just I you know, I'm old,

528
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: but I'm not. Yeah, that escapes even my weird collection

529
00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: of exactly cultural. So he's like sums the same theme

530
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: song and then he yells, I see the X. Yeah,

531
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 1: so apparently that's a reference to the final episode of

532
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 1: that cartoon, Clutch Cargo. Then he yells, I'm my Piles. Now.

533
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 1: Max is now shaking his head back and forth. People

534
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: know what Piles is? Are you looking up? Okay, there

535
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:29,959
Speaker 1: you go. So he's shaking his head back and forth,

536
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: and the yels I just made a giant masterpiece for

537
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 1: all the greatest world newspaper and nerves. It's so awesome.

538
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,959
Speaker 1: Then he reached down. He reaches down and he picks

539
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 1: up what looks like a leather work glove. My mother

540
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 1: is so this is either like you're watching this or

541
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 1: maybe you're like just in any large city riding a

542
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: public bus and this is going on. He puts on

543
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: the glob of mumbles more unintelligible bits, tosses off. He

544
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:11,879
Speaker 1: tosses off the glove, and then he moans, I'm still

545
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 1: impressive that I have so many talents, and I just like,

546
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: I don't like to let them all out into the world.

547
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: We just make people jealous. Yeah, you know, I just

548
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: want I just want to put goodness out there, but

549
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: a little bits at a time, you know. So the

550
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 1: screen cuts to another shot. The person who had been

551
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: playing Max is now on the left side of the screen,

552
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: and he has the left side of his body facing

553
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 1: the camera, and he's bending over and his head's out

554
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: of the frame and he's holding a Max headroom, the

555
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 1: same mask. He's holding it back like reaches behind him

556
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: to hold it into the frame. I think, after careful

557
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 1: analysis of this clip, that he has the rubber penis

558
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: sticking out of the masks mouth, the one that was

559
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: on his finger before. I'm really hoping it's the fake one. Yes,

560
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 1: he kind of like like a pruter filmed this one,

561
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 1: and yeah, and he you know it's must seven. You

562
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: can see the penis frame eight. You notice it's wagging.

563
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: Frame nine. He looked for the shadows. So on the

564
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 1: right side of the screen, that's what he's taken up

565
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,760
Speaker 1: the left side. On the right side is this masked woman.

566
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 1: She's like in like kind of a surgeon's mask, and

567
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: then she kind of looks like she's in like one

568
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:34,919
Speaker 1: of those little house on the prairie dresses like it's

569
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: some sort of bonnet. It's a very low res um,

570
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,320
Speaker 1: it's kind of hard to tell. She's holding a fly swatter,

571
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: which you know, perfect accessory for that outfit. Max Headroom,

572
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,399
Speaker 1: by the way, I told you, he's like bending over

573
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: out of the frame. He's holding back the mask because

574
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 1: pants are pulled down during this whole endeavor, so maybe

575
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: the flywater fly you got it. The guy's pants are

576
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: pulled down, and she kind of halfheartedly lazily spanks Max

577
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: headrooms rump while he halfheartedly whales. He goes flawless. Then

578
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: the screen cuts to black and it's just like an

579
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 1: electric hum and then all of a sudden, Doctor Who

580
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: comes back on. Now, how would people know that that

581
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: wasn't part of Doctor Who? I'm sorry, Doctor Who. I

582
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 1: think that I would say a good portion of the

583
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: population was like, oh, I forgot I had never seen

584
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: this episode. This is great. Man. I just imagine some

585
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,479
Speaker 1: of the population watching Doctor Who was in the middle

586
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: of the night is high enough that they just man

587
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: the special. This is crazy. I thought I'd seen this,

588
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: but I guess not. Yeah, so Doctor Who comes back

589
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 1: and then like it comes back right when Doctor Who

590
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,439
Speaker 1: uh says the line, as far as I can tell,

591
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 1: a massive electric shock. He must have died instantly. But

592
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 1: I don't think that was intentional. Just it's weird synchronicity

593
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: that you get this crazy line. Yeah, of synchronicities. Yeah,

594
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 1: and so the hijack is better than coming back to

595
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 1: like a diarrhea commercial. That's why we watched PBS com commercials.

596
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 1: So the hijacks over, you know, let out a good

597
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: I know you've been holding your breath this entire time.

598
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 1: Exhale hijack had been waiting to exhale. You're just gonna

599
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 1: go throw some clothes out the window. So the w

600
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: g N hijack, the News one lasted only seconds, but

601
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: the PBS one, the Doctor Who one, went on for

602
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: a minute two. It's a long time when you're watching

603
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: something like that. Um. Now, accordingly, the PBS folks didn't

604
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 1: really have a plan for this kind of thing. They

605
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: didn't have the HBO giant dial like where they could

606
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: doul it out, like can we put a sweater on this?

607
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: What are we gonna do? W g N. There's was

608
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 1: only twenty eight seconds because they just switched the signal

609
00:38:55,880 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: to cut it off. Yeah, they're like superstation you exactly

610
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:05,399
Speaker 1: exactly W T T W the PBS station. They didn't

611
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 1: have a way to override this. They just sat in

612
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: the control room freaking out, pooping their pants. That's what

613
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 1: happens anytime you work for a television station and something

614
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 1: goes wrong, you poop your pants. That's they train you

615
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 1: if you get any kind of degree in multimedia or

616
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: like television. Yeah, there's like a whole semester about pants pooping.

617
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 1: So people watching the nine million people watching Doctor Who

618
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: in Chicago that night, they're freaking out too, but like

619
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 1: in good and bad ways. So, like local news was

620
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: interviewing people on the street, like where were huge when

621
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: it was hijacked, And one guy is like, I got

622
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: so upset that I wanted to bust the TV stop. Yeah,

623
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 1: and then this lady was all bummed about Doctor Who.

624
00:39:56,080 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 1: We're going to have to tape over it, because she

625
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 1: probably had like this massive collection, like a whole wall

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Speaker 1: of her home has like bookcases devoted to the nine

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Speaker 1: Kazilian episodes of Dr Who? What Do I Do? And

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Speaker 1: then there's this kid totally after my own heart, and

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Speaker 1: who's like very very funny. He's wearing a cravat. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we need to stopped him on the baseball diamond looking

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Speaker 1: like a little old cow. Very funny. He did whatever,

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Speaker 1: that's what he said. I don't know how he said it. Um.

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Speaker 1: After you know, the two stations, very funny, very very funny,

634
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 1: really funny, very funny. Okay, now now we've brought him

635
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: into like New York, real funny. He was an eight

636
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 1: year old dressed as May West and standing on the

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00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: shores of like Michigan. And what do you think about

638
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: Dr Who getting hijacked? Was? That was very funny. And

639
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:01,879
Speaker 1: then he dove into the water and swam off because

640
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 1: he had mermaid leg syndrome. After the two stations, they

641
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: start these investigations, but they kind of come up empty.

642
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: They figured it had to be someone who knew what

643
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: they were doing, you know, like a broadcast engineer. Um,

644
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: you know, maybe like disgruntled employee uh Ham radio operator.

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00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 1: Maybe a trucker with a good strong CB signal. Well, like,

646
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 1: here's the thing though, we were talking about strong signals.

647
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: Everyone agreed that the hacker had to get to like

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00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 1: a high enough point in the city, high rise rooftop

649
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 1: or like an apartment or something somewhere between the studios,

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00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: which are both on the north side of town, and

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00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: their downtown transmitters. Ones on top of the John Hancock

652
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: Building and the other one was on the Sears Tower

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00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 1: which is now called the Willis Tower, but it will

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00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 1: in my heart always be the Sears Tower. Chicago would agree.

655
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 1: So they were located the hackers somewhere in between those

656
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 1: north side towers and the downtown towers, and they had

657
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: to hit the receivers with like super strong microwave frequencies

658
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,399
Speaker 1: to override the signals for the station. Oh, I didn't

659
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 1: know you could just do it, just aim it at

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00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,399
Speaker 1: the thing. I guess now we know, we know you can.

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00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: So our pals from the f c C get involved.

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00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:28,760
Speaker 1: The three kids in a trench coach show UPCC here, everybody, everybody,

663
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 1: spread them on your pants, open up the door, and

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00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 1: like a spokesman for the FCC, the three boys in

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00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 1: a trench code. They remind the public that there is

666
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 1: a one dollar fine or one year in jail, or

667
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: both for this prime. Yeah, they're like, hi, everybody on

668
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 1: a thousand dollars fun jail. And you're like, wait, wheren't

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00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 1: you interviewed on the news the other day. I don't know,

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00:42:54,600 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: see me later on now, don't forget I meant and

671
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: before Congress passed a bill making satellite jamming a felony.

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00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: Now that happened a year before and one month before

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00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: this incident, there was another crazy little hijacking um this

674
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: tech at the Christian Broadcasting Network. He hijacked Playboy TV

675
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: to display Bible Versus. Like, that's gonna work. Yeah, it's

676
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: all getting saucy and like some ladies in a teddy

677
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 1: and like feathered hair, and then all of a sudden,

678
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: it's all chilling three six loviticus. Yeah. So like he's like,

679
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: you know, I the power compels me. I have to

680
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:45,959
Speaker 1: stop Playboy TV. Bible Versus. Jesus is like I'm sorry

681
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: about that. Yeah, but they're like, I will not let

682
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 1: you see a woman in a red satin teddy. He's like, look,

683
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 1: my girlfriend's a sex worker. I don't know what he

684
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: was thinking. That guy. Christian Broadcast Network guy got probation,

685
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 1: a fine, and community service so he didn't have to

686
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 1: do the hard time. But anyway, yeah, let's get back

687
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: to max hedroom. So the main FCC guy in d C,

688
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: a whole man in a trench, three boys. He's like

689
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 1: fired up to catch this culprit. He you know, this

690
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: just sticks in his cross He is cheesed off, so

691
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 1: you can't have people trying to top him. So he

692
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: gets the FBI involved and has them analyzed the video

693
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 1: and isolate frames, trying to find out where it was filmed.

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00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: So it's sort of like those inter poll efforts to

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00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 1: find out where child trafficking takes place, where they release

696
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 1: portions of stills from videos and ask people to identify

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00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: products or places. It's kind of a cool thing, like

698
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: it's very depressing, but so they released part of it

699
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: still and they say, can you do you recognize this window,

700
00:44:56,200 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 1: this window or this product? And people a bit that's

701
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 1: a discontinued can of Thai soda and they're like, oh,

702
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: that's a good lead. And then there are like people

703
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 1: online who who track these things and they'll take like, um,

704
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 1: pictures like Google street View and stuff and like try

705
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: and match up balconies and it's wild. Did they do

706
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: this in the UK? All over the world they put

707
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: this out there, Yeah, you can do it here? Where

708
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: where have I been watching Magnum p I so FBI

709
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 1: Max Headroom. They're analyzing the frames, were trying to figure

710
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,320
Speaker 1: out where it was filmed. But there's also something that

711
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: I feel happens on like Law and Order SVU a

712
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: lot where they're like isolate the frames and magnify that

713
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 1: it's a new drug. The kids are calling Tiddley winks

714
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 1: um it makes your feet tingle. So uh, they find

715
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: they isolate these frames, they're like, you know, developing leads

716
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: and they really want to just nail these purps in

717
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 1: the line in the parlance that we use in the

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00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 1: biz um. But then so that's they're going hard in

719
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,320
Speaker 1: d C. But you know there are offices FCC offices

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00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: all over the country. Oh yes, I'm quite familiar. Chicago

721
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:16,280
Speaker 1: obviously has their own. Neapolis has a Lovely one Coffee

722
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: La La FCC man in Chicago. I don't really care

723
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 1: about what's going on. He's sort of a quiet little

724
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 1: mouse of a fellow Chicago. I don't care. Right, well,

725
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 1: he just doesn't want He didn't sign up to be

726
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 1: a secret agent. He signed up to just push papers.

727
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: He wants to do his nine to five, go home

728
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, his wife eat beef, drink,

729
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: drink beverages. I don't know. I don't know how he lives. So,

730
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: but he's just not into it. He wants the run

731
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:51,280
Speaker 1: of the mill FCC cases, like you know, people calling

732
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 1: in and saying that man's shirt was tight and I

733
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 1: saw his nipples on that newscast. Okay, well we'll mark

734
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,359
Speaker 1: down that complaint that sportscaster to where us he did

735
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 1: not sign up for like wearing a suit from men's

736
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: warehouse and kicking indoors and like bursting into warehouses. I

737
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: didn't sign up for that. No, he refuses to investigate this,

738
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: and he just shrugs, like what are you gonna do?

739
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 1: He's like the police, Yeah, well that this just enrages

740
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 1: the guy in d C. He's like and to this day,

741
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 1: like there's some interviews with the DC guy later who's

742
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 1: just like he won't name the Chicago guy, but it's

743
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 1: just like he is the biggest disappointment, Like he just

744
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:38,720
Speaker 1: wasn't into it. The big max Headron Bust. He wouldn't

745
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 1: help me. But here's my question. Was the Chicago guy

746
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: the hacker? Maybe no one was ever caught for this

747
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: is what I'm trying to say. I can see it.

748
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:53,359
Speaker 1: It just keeps getting higher and higher. Um, no one

749
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 1: was ever caught. They never caught the hacker, and like

750
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 1: over the years, people come up with all these theories.

751
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:02,720
Speaker 1: There was obviously obviously an extensive theory about it on Reddit.

752
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,840
Speaker 1: There always is, That's why I love Reddit. Well, it

753
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: was they like isolated it down to these two people,

754
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 1: and then you know, everyone was like, yes, it's them,

755
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 1: and then of course another person comes in and like

756
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,800
Speaker 1: just blows holes in the whole thing, like it couldn't

757
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 1: have been them. They were in an Albanian prison at

758
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 1: the time. So nothing ever pans out. This ridiculous crime

759
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:29,280
Speaker 1: remains unsolved. So if you got a tip, let us know. Yeah,

760
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 1: if you're the hacker, will we can come on here,

761
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: you can talk about it anonymously. Your uncle who did

762
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:39,439
Speaker 1: this or your aunt. Yeah, we will buy we will

763
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: buy you a pizza, a big Chicago thick style pizza,

764
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:54,800
Speaker 1: Chicago style. Well, roughly up Chicago Chicago style. So Saren, Saren,

765
00:48:54,880 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 1: what's here? Ridiculous takeaway? Here? My ridiculous takeaway is at

766
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears football is the best thing in the world.

767
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 1: And Max Headroom is definitely a counterculture hero. And I

768
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: believe the FCC guy was the one. Yeah, I like

769
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 1: that theory. That's ridiculous. I think it's totally ridiculous, and

770
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,359
Speaker 1: I love it. I think that there are ways that

771
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 1: this sort of crime could be used, like in a

772
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 1: malicious manner. Huh. I don't even want to start thinking

773
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: about or listing all of the horrors that could Could

774
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: you just tell me one? Well, sure you could, just

775
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 1: like you could murder someone live on television. You could

776
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 1: like with Max Headroom, not with Max Headroom, Like hijacking

777
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 1: a signal and broadcasting it out. You could and I

778
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:45,359
Speaker 1: make people watch like yeah, and there's no way they

779
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: can cut the signal, or they could have like you know,

780
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 1: threats to terrorist threats or whatever. As I said, I

781
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: don't even want to start listening. I could like a

782
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 1: full Cobra and desk, Corbra commander and destro and be like,

783
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 1: I will make the world watch it. As I you

784
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: could make them watch a cold sliver, slither, cold slither

785
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 1: concert time, just trying to keep well. The HBO hack

786
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 1: was funny. I think, like you know, it could potentially

787
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 1: annoy someone who was like paying for the service and

788
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 1: having their movie interrupted. But see, like the Max Headroom

789
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: one doesn't hurt anybody. It's completely silly. It gives people

790
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: something to talk about and a cold fall day and

791
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 1: something to explain to small children that late. See, if

792
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:30,959
Speaker 1: you're up, if you're up that late, then it's fair game.

793
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 1: You get to learn. I am a fan of spontaneous

794
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 1: surrealism and I don't think that should be a crime

795
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 1: into that. So instead of doctor who was doctor? What? Yeah? Yeah? Who?

796
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 1: And what why? We're when you? People can find us

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00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 1: online at Ridiculous Crime on both Twitter and Instagram. If

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00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 1: you have a tip for us about a ridiculous crime.

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Speaker 1: If you are Max Headroom from the hijack, please let

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Speaker 1: us know. Um, do you want to talk about crime?

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Speaker 1: Do you want do you need advice on like a

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00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 1: color palette that you're choosing for your home? Uh? Will

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