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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Second hour of The Clay Travis and

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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show is here, everybody. I'm gonna get into

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Speaker 1: the politics situation right now in the aftermath of the

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Speaker 1: Ohio primary that occurred last night. The Senate and congressional

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Speaker 1: primary seats that are obviously still up for grabs, but

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Speaker 1: at least we know who on the Republican and Democrat

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Speaker 1: tickets in Ohio is going to be vying for those seats.

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Speaker 1: JD Van So we had JD on right'. I've interviewed

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Speaker 1: him numerous times in the past, going back for a while.

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Speaker 1: It's funny. I don't even hear people talk that much

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Speaker 1: more any that much anymore about Hillbilly Elogy, which is

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Speaker 1: really what got his name nominally All the Scene, which

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Speaker 1: is a great book. Now, he's a venture capitalist, went

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Speaker 1: to Yale Law School, and he is the Republican primary

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Speaker 1: winner in the state of Ohio. His closest competitor was

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Speaker 1: j Mandel. Vance got thirty within So yeah, all the

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Speaker 1: precincts in basically thirty two percent went to Vance, twenty

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Speaker 1: three percent Mandel and a lot of things here For one, Clay,

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Speaker 1: people are pointing to the power of the Trump endorsement

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Speaker 1: here as we know, you've got j jd Vance had

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Speaker 1: the Trump endorsement very publicly and a lot of people

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Speaker 1: from Trump World War supporting him. J d is a

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Speaker 1: frequent guest on Tucker Show, which I think, I know

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Speaker 1: we all know speaks not only to millions of people,

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Speaker 1: but definitely speaks to primary voters in the Republican base

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Speaker 1: very directly. And I'm just looking at this now for

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Speaker 1: what this could mean going into November. One thing is

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Speaker 1: does the Trump endorsement mean a lot for any any

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Speaker 1: still out there? You know, you've got doctor Oz up

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Speaker 1: against McCormick in Pennsylvania. We've had them both here on

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Speaker 1: the show as guests. I think that'll be are interesting

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Speaker 1: because Oz got that endorsement, which remember Dina Powell is

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Speaker 1: the wife of McCormick, who's a billionaire hedge fund manager.

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Speaker 1: Dina was in the White House in the early stage

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Speaker 1: of the Trump presidency, so a lot of wrangling to

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Speaker 1: get that Trump seal of a Trump stamp of approval.

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Speaker 1: And then beyond that, Clay, you know, what does this mean?

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Speaker 1: I mean when Ohio is going for MAGA candidates, if

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Speaker 1: you will, does this suggest that as we're heading into

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Speaker 1: a midterm election, you're going to be seeing things looking

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Speaker 1: very good for anybody else who's Trump backed across the country.

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Speaker 1: You know, that's one part of this. There are other

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Speaker 1: aspects of this too. I want to get into what

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Speaker 1: do you think. Look, I think Trump swung the election.

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Speaker 1: And we got a ton of people in Ohio. I

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Speaker 1: heard the other day you did two buck. We're number

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Speaker 1: one in Columbus, We're number one almost in Cincinnati. We

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Speaker 1: got a monster audience all over the state of Ohio.

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Speaker 1: I heard from a lot of people that jd Vance

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Speaker 1: that swung the election. And if you get the polling,

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Speaker 1: jd Vance was not leading that I saw in any

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Speaker 1: poll until the until the Trump endorsement came out, and

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Speaker 1: Trump planned it almost perfectly mid April write in advance

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Speaker 1: of this election. I don't think jd Vance would have

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Speaker 1: won this race if Donald Trump doesn't endorse him, certainly

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Speaker 1: he wouldn't have won it, in my opinion, if Trump

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Speaker 1: had endorsed someone else so where, I think the Trump

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Speaker 1: see if it also translates in Pennsylvania is when it's

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Speaker 1: a tightly contested primary with multiple places, which I think

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Speaker 1: is also going to happen in Arizona, where the Trump

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Speaker 1: has not endorsed anybody yet, but there are three or

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Speaker 1: four guys really kind of going toe to toe trading blows.

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Speaker 1: I think probably say, we've had Carrie Lake on the show.

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Speaker 1: She's very strong, she's been endorsed by Trump, but you

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Speaker 1: got the Bernovic, You've got Blake Masters and and I hate,

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Speaker 1: by the way, we don't endorse anybody on this show.

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Speaker 1: When we got Republican primaries going on, but there's a

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Speaker 1: real battle going on. I want to make sure that

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Speaker 1: I get this because I was looking at the polling.

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of a pole nerd buck. I love to

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Speaker 1: watch some of these tight races, and it's basically right now,

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Speaker 1: a three way battle in Arizona where it's almost impossible

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Speaker 1: Where it seems to me that where Trump comes in

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Speaker 1: primary victory last night in Ohio. Now, this campaign I

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Speaker 1: really think was a referendum on what kind of a

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Speaker 1: we want. We went to battle. Do we want a

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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, we just answer the question. And oh,

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Speaker 1: by the way, a former colleague of mine, also Madison A. Jaziato,

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Speaker 1: I've known Madison for many, many years. Yeah, I have

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Speaker 1: a number I have a number of other colleague slash

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Speaker 1: friends running. There's even one place, Clay, where I have

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Speaker 1: one reason, by the way, you're in a really tough

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Speaker 1: spot when it's when it's legitimate friends that you have

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Speaker 1: I've tried. You know, people have said, hey, Clay, what

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Speaker 1: do you think about what's going on in your own

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Speaker 1: Why don't you weigh in and tell us and you know,

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Speaker 1: kind of pull the street. I'm trying to stay out

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Speaker 1: voters decide who there who their top pick is. And

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Speaker 1: if I were a politician, that's one thing where you

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Speaker 1: come out and you say, hey, I'm going to endorse

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Speaker 1: this person or not. By the way, let me let

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Speaker 1: me hit the airs Zona battle where the Bernovich I

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Speaker 1: believe Lamon and I may be mispronouncing some names masters

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Speaker 1: McGuire and Olson. There is a big battle going on

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Speaker 1: in Arizona, where given how tight it is, that impact

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Speaker 1: it's head to head, it may not matter as much

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Speaker 1: I think if you're looking at those results, it's hard

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Speaker 1: win if Trump endorses somebody else. I said, we would

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Speaker 1: take some calls on the impact of all this particularly,

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Speaker 1: so we want to update you on what happened last

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Speaker 1: but I wanted to get in let our people, way

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Speaker 1: for example, in that very tight Arizona race, you know

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Speaker 1: good candidates that are that are in the mix up. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: May seventeenth. By the way, Pennsylvania will be the next

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Speaker 1: test in a big way. Quite a quite an outcome,

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Speaker 1: quite a battle. John in Cynthiana, Kentucky. I hope I

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Speaker 1: got that right. How do you say it? Indiana, Kentucky?

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Speaker 1: on your mind? John? Well, you know there's laws against

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Speaker 1: putting it in the fifty test tubes? Okay? But what

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Speaker 1: playing pairents with facilities and abortions that will and all

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Speaker 1: the other things that they're getting. So plan Pairenthood transports

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Speaker 1: taking it completely outside of medical treatment. Right, in sports gambling,

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Speaker 1: We have our friend Raheem kassam Am with us now

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Speaker 1: Eder in chief of the National Pulse raheem. Good of

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Speaker 1: is tanking for a top draft pick. When I hear

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Speaker 1: that clip and see that they picked her for this job,

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Speaker 1: I feel like they're purposely trying to destroy this thing

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Speaker 1: from the outset. Well. The problem is, I think they

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Speaker 1: know that this is a nut job of the highest order,

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Speaker 1: and they want to set a nut job loose on us,

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Speaker 1: right like they want this person to be the bane

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Speaker 1: of our existences. And frankly, I can't think of a

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Speaker 1: worst person to have to try to like answer to

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Speaker 1: imagine this that we may have to answer to this

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Speaker 1: person when Day via DHS or whoever comes knocking at

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Speaker 1: my door with a long gun and says you've published misinformation,

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Speaker 1: come with us to the Gulag. You know, they want

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Speaker 1: this to work us up into the tizzy. Um, But

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Speaker 1: there are so many things like this, and I'll break

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Speaker 1: a little bit of information, you know. I have a

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Speaker 1: substack as well, and I'm doing another article today on

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Speaker 1: another one of these things. It's going to be out

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Speaker 1: later this afternoon that you guys will hear about it first,

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Speaker 1: right now, birds the birds aren't real movement, that parody

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Speaker 1: movement that has been kind of can you tell everybody

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Speaker 1: what that is? Right? And it just because like some

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Speaker 1: a lot of folks listening would be like, what, just

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Speaker 1: explain a little bit and then tell us about the substack.

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Speaker 1: There's a comedy. There's a comedy viral like troop almost

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Speaker 1: of thousands of people now around the country and they

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Speaker 1: go around as if they are real conspiracy theorists holding

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Speaker 1: like birds aren't real signs and they make the allegation

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Speaker 1: that you know, the US government killed all the birds

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Speaker 1: fifty years But it's a parody, right, It's funny. It

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Speaker 1: gets people involved. And the birds are like little robots,

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Speaker 1: isn't that what they say? Right? Right? But birds are

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Speaker 1: actually drones, they say drones joke. But now next month

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Speaker 1: the Pointer Center and the International fact Checking Network is

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Speaker 1: hosting their ninth annual fact Checking Conference, and the leading

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Speaker 1: voices in those conference number one and Apple Bound of

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Speaker 1: the Atlantic, somebody who has made excuses for Roman Polanski

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Speaker 1: I will have people remember well and by the way,

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Speaker 1: sorry to cut you off for him, but for this audience.

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Speaker 1: She also was questioned really well by a University of

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Speaker 1: Chicago kid about the Hunter Biden laptop and said, oh,

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Speaker 1: it was not interesting to me, Like I mean, she

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Speaker 1: got destroyed in that exchange. I remember it well as

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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. It was a fantastic exchange

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Speaker 1: and kudos to those students. Number two is Joan Donovan

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Speaker 1: on this panel. Joan Donovan has ties directly to the

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Speaker 1: Chinese Communist Party through the think tanks she works for.

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Speaker 1: And number three is Peter mckindo, the founder of Birds

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Speaker 1: Aren't Real. So I thought, why is this guy who's

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Speaker 1: been doing this conspiracy stuff so the performance art for

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Speaker 1: so long, why isn't he speaking at a fact check conference?

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Speaker 1: And it turns out that he is now changing the

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Speaker 1: Birds Aren't Real movement to become part of the broader

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Speaker 1: fact checking movement out there, and he's being welcomed into

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Speaker 1: the fold. He's said that his group is now um

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Speaker 1: intervened in anti abortion rallies to try and make them

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Speaker 1: look stupid by holding up birds Aren't Real signs in

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Speaker 1: the middle of them. So you're you're seeing this now

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Speaker 1: go to like this almost disinformation guerrilla warfare, and I

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Speaker 1: expect you will see a lot more of that, those

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Speaker 1: people in that movement trying to infiltrate right wing events,

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Speaker 1: you know, make a mockery of them, and I think,

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Speaker 1: I think this is going to be a pretty big deal.

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Speaker 1: Just Raheem Kassam on Substack. How to folks find it? Raheim,

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Speaker 1: Yeah you can. You can just go to Rahem Kasam

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Speaker 1: dot substack dot com or just I'll link it on

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Speaker 1: my social media, which is all just Rahem Kassam Raheem.

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Speaker 1: Fantastic stuff. As always, we appreciate the time. Yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: absolutely anytime, guys. Thank you. By the way, your mom

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Speaker 1: super excited that Raheem was going to be on I

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Speaker 1: saw buck. Now, that wasn't my mom. That was someone's

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Speaker 1: mom on the internet that I sent you. Oh, I

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Speaker 1: thought it was your Brahem. My mom likes Raheem. But

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Speaker 1: I'm just no, that was I thought she was. I

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Speaker 1: thought she was getting the shout out. I thought she

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Speaker 1: was super excited to be listening. She does appreciate Raheim's

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Speaker 1: Raheem's content. But yeah, anyway, by the way, Mother's Day

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Speaker 1: Sunday for all the sons, all the husbands, all the

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Speaker 1: grand Kay, everybody out there, just no, we got Mother's

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Speaker 1: Day coming up, and I think our moms are gonna

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Speaker 1: be on Friday. But to say it was a perfect

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Speaker 1: transition to the fact that your mom and my mom

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Speaker 1: will be here on the show. And if you go

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Speaker 1: to Clay and Buck dot com, I believe you can

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Speaker 1: submit a question for them in writing, or you can

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Speaker 1: you can leave a voicemail, right so the voice online

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Speaker 1: set up. Yeah, it's all right there. You can leave

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Speaker 1: a voicemail and you can will play the questions for

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Speaker 1: the moms. We're gonna pick the ones we think of

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Speaker 1: the funniest, the best, whatever, And um, Mama Travis, Mama

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Speaker 1: Sexton are gonna be uh joining the show. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: have a whole chat. You know, we're gonna find out

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Speaker 1: in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. There are a lot

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Speaker 1: of people that I believe in five to ten years,

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Speaker 1: as the true story of COVID starts to be told,

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Speaker 1: are going to look worse and worse as sanity returns

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Speaker 1: in this country. We know doctor Fauci is going to

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Speaker 1: be one of them. Randy Winegarden is going to be

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Speaker 1: another one. And what I want all of you who

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Speaker 1: are about to hear this clip to recognize is everything

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Speaker 1: that we told you on this show. Everything that those

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Speaker 1: of us who have been arguing for years. We can't

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Speaker 1: just shut down schools. The kids are going to be disadvantaged.

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Speaker 1: They're going to have massive mental health issues. They're educational

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Speaker 1: and learning skills are going to suffer to an inordinate degree,

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Speaker 1: to a level that has never occurred before in this country,

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Speaker 1: in most of our lives. All of this was eminently foreseeable.

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Speaker 1: It was totally predictable, and in fact, Buck and I

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Speaker 1: all told you this for years. I want you to

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Speaker 1: notice how suddenly everything that we told you is being acknowledged,

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Speaker 1: but they're trying to pretend that they aren't responsible for it.

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Speaker 1: Which brings me to this Teacher's Union head, randywine Garden.

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Speaker 1: If this doesn't make your blood boil, listen to her

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Speaker 1: talking about the consequences of schools being shut down, which

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Speaker 1: she insisted on even though there was no scientific legitimacy

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Speaker 1: for it. Our kids are in crisis, and we had

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Speaker 1: a mental health crisis before COVID. But for two years

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Speaker 1: of disruption, two years of looking at the screens, two

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Speaker 1: years of not having a normal kind of routine and

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Speaker 1: rhythm recovery is really tough. It should have been two months, Clay,

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Speaker 1: as we know, and it was two years, not just

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Speaker 1: in a general sense, because of people like Randy Winearden,

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Speaker 1: the chief commissar of the Teachers Union. It's because of

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Speaker 1: Randy Weearten. In last part, she was working with the

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Speaker 1: Biden White House directly to try and make sure and

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Speaker 1: she did, I mean to push for not only school

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Speaker 1: closures for much longer than was reasonable, and people like

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Speaker 1: you and me were saying, this is the kids are

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Speaker 1: going to suffer. This is a horrible idea. This is

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Speaker 1: only going to hurt kids, so that, you know, lazy,

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Speaker 1: safety for the teachers. She was pushing this. She worked

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Speaker 1: going to have extremely negative consequences. What was the most

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Speaker 1: recent data, you said, Claire the show, seventy five percent

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Speaker 1: of kids got omicron. This idea that shutting down schools

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Speaker 1: shielded kids from COVID was crazy, and beyond that, the

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Speaker 1: idea that kids are still at considerable risk. By the

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Speaker 1: way here is this is another transition. Another person who

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Speaker 1: So I mentioned early on in the show. Listen to

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Speaker 1: what she says about kids. When I hear this, Clay,

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Speaker 1: I want to throw things at the wall. I completely

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Speaker 1: masked last night because my assessment was they were probably

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Speaker 1: just by odds and science, probably fifteen to twenty people infected,

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Speaker 1: five days after an exposure, and I consider that an exposure.

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Speaker 1: I tested this morning because I knew I was going

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Speaker 1: to see you in person on mask. And I think

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Speaker 1: that's just what we need to do. If you have

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Speaker 1: vulnerable people in your household, whether it's children or elderly,

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Speaker 1: you have to continually access your risk. The children are

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Speaker 1: not vulnerable. Me so mad, she is crazy, but noticed

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Speaker 1: that she's first saying she tests every day for five

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Speaker 1: days after exposure. Folks, she's supposed to be a public

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Speaker 1: health epidemiology expert. She's being exposed to COVID all the time. Okay, yes,

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Speaker 1: all the time. She's being exposed to COVID. She has

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Speaker 1: no idea when and how often. It's Ludi anti science, Buck,

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Speaker 1: She's had two years to recognize that kids have virtually

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Speaker 1: zero You can't say zero because statistically it is point zero, zero,

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Speaker 1: zero one, or whatever the heck it is of kids

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Speaker 1: that could have an issue with COVID, there are still parents.

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Speaker 1: It got me fired up the other day, Buck, I

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Speaker 1: tweeting in sort of a bragging way, my kid hasn't

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Speaker 1: the world has public health in this country allowed for

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Speaker 1: these lies to spread and continue to be propagated. Your

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Speaker 1: young kids are not in danger from COVID. In fact,

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Speaker 1: they probably have already had it, as even the CDC

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Speaker 1: data itself reflects three out of every four kids have

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Speaker 1: and by the way, the other quarter that hasn't had

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Speaker 1: it buck I think it's kind of an interesting question.

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Speaker 1: Either they aren't susceptible to getting COVID, would be my guests,

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Speaker 1: or their immune system is so wildly strong that they

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Speaker 1: don't even get it. So the idea that she's propagating

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Speaker 1: what is a total why that kids are in danger,

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Speaker 1: or that you should be testing kids after exposure all

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Speaker 1: directly ties in with the biggest failure of American public

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Speaker 1: policy in the twenty first century, which is why November

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Speaker 1: needs to be a red wave election, because these people

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Speaker 1: have to be held accountable. I honestly think that the

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Speaker 1: Democrats are still underestimating how much anger there is out

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Speaker 1: there about the unnecessary school closures, about the forced vaccination

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Speaker 1: of people, or else they can lose their jobs about

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Speaker 1: a lot of that. And we're not going to let

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Speaker 1: people forget. We're gonna stay on this mission until the end,

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Speaker 1: until election day and beyond friends, as promised he would.

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Speaker 1: And we've also got our friend Tyrus from Fox News joining.

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Speaker 1: He's got a great new book out of memoir. We'll

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Speaker 1: speaking about some of the news of the day as well.

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Speaker 1: And there was an assault on Dave Chappelle on stage.

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Speaker 1: What was that all about. We'll talk about