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Speaker 1: The volume. This week on Prime Cuts, Chad Millman, Sharper Square,

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Speaker 1: Nick Wright on the best NFL job for Jim Harbaugh

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Speaker 1: and my top takes of the week, all Right, saying

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Speaker 1: it wasn't his decision. Pete Carroll classy as he stood

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Speaker 1: at the podium, energized, saying there are waves to surf.

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Speaker 1: Pete's at a house in Hawaii for some time. Very

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Speaker 1: active guy, Manhattan Beach, Hawaii. He's a very young seventy

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Speaker 1: two years old. I don't think energy, intelligence, stamina are

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Speaker 1: the questions for Pete Carroll. I think he's somebody that

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Speaker 1: could interview for the charger's job. If Lincoln Riley left tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: USC would talk to him. That's not the question. I

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Speaker 1: do think there's a question that defensive coaches just do

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Speaker 1: not want to confront. Carroll's telling me that Gino Smith

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Speaker 1: is the answer. I don't know. Sean McVay moved off Goff.

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Speaker 1: Goff's a lot better than Geno Smith. Kyle Shanahan moved

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Speaker 1: off Jimmy Garoppolo, who I think is better than Geno Smith,

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Speaker 1: and both of those quarterbacks got to a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: But when I hear Ron Rivera say, Sam Howe we're

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Speaker 1: good at quarterback or Pete say Gino Smith, Drew Locke.

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Speaker 1: Come on, guys, the culture is changing beneath your feet.

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Speaker 1: Come on, guys, that's not good enough. Pete Carroll has

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Speaker 1: an NCAA championship and a Super Bowl. Who are the quarterbacks?

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Speaker 1: Two elite quarterbacks, Matt Liinert as a college quarterback and

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson in his prime as an NFL quarterback. Pete's

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Speaker 1: defensive philosophies, ideologies, details haven't changed. He had a lot

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Speaker 1: of quarterbacks at us SEE when he had Lionert, those

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks in Seattle, right, But when he had Russell in

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Speaker 1: his prime, he got to Super Bowls. So defensive coaches

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Speaker 1: struggle with two things. Urgency at the position of quarterback. Listen,

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Speaker 1: Belichick's a legend, right. Tom Brady privately will tell you

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Speaker 1: he has no idea about offense. None. Now, Pete maybe

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Speaker 1: knows more about offense than Bill Belichick. But I think

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Speaker 1: that's the number one thing, is that Pete can go

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Speaker 1: to a place that has an established offensive culture. But

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Speaker 1: I think it's a legitimate reasonable question about defensive coaches.

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Speaker 1: I mean, when Mike Tomlin's telling me Kenny Pickett's good enough,

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Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett's the fifth best quarterback in that division, Burrow Lamar,

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Flaco, Kenny Pickett. Come on. I mean, Mason Rudolph

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Speaker 1: Come on? And when Ron Rivera, Sam Hell's good enough?

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Speaker 1: Come on? So I think that's nothing against those particular quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: But that's my thing with Pete. Chargers already have a

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Speaker 1: great quarterback, great young talent. Maybe that's a good fit.

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Speaker 1: But I've been watching this for years. Andy Reid had

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Speaker 1: Alex Smith said not good enough. Alex Smith's playoff quarterback.

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Speaker 1: He was a successful quarterback in San Francisco and Kansas City,

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Speaker 1: both conferences, and he reads like we're upgrade McVay, Goff,

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Speaker 1: Shanahan Garoppolo. And I just think offensive coaches have a

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Speaker 1: higher standard of offense and the league rules now. I mean,

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Speaker 1: even if you go look at the National Championship, three

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Speaker 1: Saban are a great coach One didn't make it, and

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Speaker 1: I just think the world's changing. And that's what worries

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Speaker 1: me about Pete. It's not his energy, it's not his intelligence,

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Speaker 1: it's not his commitment, it's not his personnel decisions. That's

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Speaker 1: not it. He's a good enough coach to coach somewhere else.

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Speaker 1: And these defensive coaches, they see the world. Run the ball,

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Speaker 1: good defense. Well, Seattle wasn't playing good defense. And I

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Speaker 1: don't like turnovers either, but el Way, Peyton Manning, Eli Manning,

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Speaker 1: with great elevated quarterback play. So that's my concern with Pete.

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Speaker 1: Everything else, he checks a lot of boxes. What's next

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Speaker 1: Dan Quinn's success in Atlanta was tied to a great

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Speaker 1: Seattle doesn't have needs. Quarterback is their need, and now

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Speaker 1: Pete Carroll recommended, right. Pete and Dan are close, and

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Speaker 1: Pete and Dan are both really, really good defensive minds.

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Speaker 1: But I think this year when you watch Seattle, their

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe Pete didn't want to, but I would. I

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Speaker 1: Carroll today, he sounds like he wants to coach. I

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Speaker 1: my Energy's great, my optimism. Let's go ride some waves.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait. I'm very excited. That press conference was

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Speaker 1: not only classy by Pete, but he was sending messages

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Speaker 1: Pete smart, he steps to the podium and he wanted

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Speaker 1: seventy two year old guy. That was the messaging, and

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Speaker 1: I think Pete deserves interviews. If I was the Chargers,

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Speaker 1: I would hire Harbaugh first, Rabel second, but I'd interview Pete.

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Speaker 1: I don't want another assistant, but I'd interview Pete. Hell Michigan,

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Speaker 1: Pete want to coach college again? I mean Lincoln Riley

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Speaker 1: I'd go offense. Shane Wall, Ben Johnson and Seattle. That's

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Speaker 1: Speaking of seventy two year old Nick Saban, Alabama head

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Speaker 1: coach is officially retiring. It just happened. A little bit surprised.

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Speaker 1: the greatest college football coach of all time. One of

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Speaker 1: I mean, he really hit a lot of hires out

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Speaker 1: like Nick, the world's changing, I can score on your

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Speaker 1: defensive practice. I also think college football is a young

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Speaker 1: man's game. Jay Wright, Skryzhevsky, williams Now, Nick Saban. The

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Speaker 1: transfer portal is a pain in the butt. It's year

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Speaker 1: a life. You get maybe two weeks off a year.

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Speaker 1: NFL coaches get like five to six weeks off a year.

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Speaker 1: So the college game is a young man's game. It's

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Speaker 1: And the transfer portal the nil. And I think probably

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Speaker 1: over here, that's my guess, and you'll hear about it

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Speaker 1: fairly soon. I think Nick will be great on TV.

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Speaker 1: But I think he's the greatest college football coach of

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Speaker 1: all time. His ability to adapt, his ability to dominate

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it was. As I was watching the game,

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Speaker 3: I mean when they have almost one hundred and eighty

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Speaker 3: yards rushing in the first quarter, they hit him like

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Speaker 3: Mike Tyson right in the face and it felt like

424
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Speaker 3: it really wobbled Washington and they were never the same

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Speaker 3: after that. They were just holding on by a thread. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: because Harbas's teams typically, unless they're playing crappy opponents, aren't

427
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Speaker 3: gonna score sixty points, You're always going to be in

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Speaker 3: the game. Especially they were bad on third down, but

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Speaker 3: the game was never close.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's let's move to Jim Harbaughs. So one

431
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Speaker 1: of the things I wrote this, I think in my

432
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Speaker 1: first book two things make smart man stupid, beautiful women

433
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Speaker 1: and sports, And I always think so. I grew up

434
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Speaker 1: in the Pacific Northwest, where I was a Husky fan

435
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Speaker 1: as a kid, but we didn't have teams that won

436
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Speaker 1: a lot of championships. And ever since I was a kid,

437
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Speaker 1: I've always been wanted to be a sportscaster. So I

438
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Speaker 1: was never a fan, a true fan as a kid.

439
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Speaker 1: You know, people know I like the Huskies or USC

440
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Speaker 1: but I'm not really a true fan. I love creating content.

441
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Speaker 1: Anybody that knows me, you know me, Jimmy Horowitz, Charlie Dixon.

442
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Speaker 1: I love to create content. That's that's my love of

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Speaker 1: my life, beyond my kids and family. I love to

444
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Speaker 1: create seven minute rants, eight minute rants, and I love

445
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Speaker 1: the audience to rip them, enjoy them whatever.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 1: And this Jim Harbaugh stuff is why I, as a

448
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Speaker 1: moderately bright guy, have a great career. Is that Jim

449
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Speaker 1: Harbaugh has literally won everywhere. He got to a Super

450
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Speaker 1: Bowl Kaepernick, he won an academically rigid Stanford like twelve games.

451
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Speaker 1: He won ten games at Michigan, the first year with

452
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Speaker 1: Brady Huak's players in the Big Ten, and for years

453
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Speaker 1: people just kept pushing back. He's not good. And I

454
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Speaker 1: tell people it's called Google. It's a search engine. You

455
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Speaker 1: can look at His brother's brilliant. His dad won a championship.

456
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Speaker 1: His brother's brilliant. He's won everywhere. And it was the

457
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Speaker 1: reluctance for people because Jim makes people. He's a disruptor, uncomfortable.

458
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Speaker 1: He's uber to taxi. He just pisses people off. He's new,

459
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Speaker 1: We've done it this way, he does it that way.

460
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Speaker 1: The Jim Schwartz pat in the back. He's hard. He

461
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Speaker 1: pissed Pete Carroll off. And the idea that Jim harbaught

462
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Speaker 1: needed the Natty to be viewed as a great coach.

463
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Speaker 1: And I'm like Saban bombed in the NFL, Spurrier bombed.

464
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Speaker 1: Like there's five four or five guys ever, Jimmy Johnson,

465
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Speaker 1: Pete Carroll, Jim Harbaugh one with both, it's really hard.

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Speaker 1: I mean Belichick, he wouldn't deal with donors, he wouldn't recruit.

467
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Speaker 1: He's shown no ability to understand offense that in our business,

468
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Speaker 1: that if we allow the fans to be the jury

469
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Speaker 1: and then you know, somebody can be the DA somebody

470
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Speaker 1: can be the prosecuting attorney, and you and I are

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Speaker 1: just the judge, and you remove emotion from most of

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Speaker 1: the arguments. It is rather bizarre that how often greatness

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Speaker 1: is obvious and people, because their agendas or their connections

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Speaker 1: to other schools, just won't subscribe to Yeah, Jim Harbaugh's

475
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Speaker 1: one everywhere Immediately. I'm shocked by all the people that

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Speaker 1: are like, yeah, that needed this to prove it.

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Speaker 4: They needed it to prove it.

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Speaker 5: Now listen, I will admit you know, it's not like

479
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Speaker 5: we don't all have our own wits. I just mentioned

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Speaker 5: the Yokid, so like it's not like anybody bats a

481
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Speaker 5: thousand on this stuff. But no, no, no, I'm not saying that,

482
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Speaker 5: by the way, was an ascending player who's a second

483
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Speaker 5: rounder and and it just there was no precedent for it,

484
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Speaker 5: which is part of what makes him so special when

485
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Speaker 5: you're unprecedented. But and also to add to your point,

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Speaker 5: and I might be totally misremembering, but like a decade ago,

487
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Speaker 5: didn't you have a really weird like thing with Harball?

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Speaker 4: Like I don't I love that?

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Speaker 5: Was it?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 5: And but you know, but you like there was an

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Speaker 5: interview or whatever where it seemed like he was giving

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Speaker 5: you the hard time.

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Speaker 4: I don't remember the details of him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so I didn't interview. It was terribly clunky.

496
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Speaker 1: I could have easily turned on him.

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Speaker 5: But the reason, that's okay, So that's what I was

498
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Speaker 5: That's why I was going to bring it up was

499
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Speaker 5: I thought somewhere in my brain I thought that existed,

500
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Speaker 5: but I couldn't quite remember it. You, nothing would have

501
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Speaker 5: been easier than to be, like, everybody thinks this guy's

502
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Speaker 5: a dope.

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Speaker 4: He kind of was a dick to me when I

504
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Speaker 4: talked to him.

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Speaker 5: And it's always the safer bet to say someone sucks

506
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 5: because it's hard to win. Yeah, because you're gonna get

507
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Speaker 5: to be right so much more often then you're gonna

508
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Speaker 5: get Then you're gonna ever be wrong because there's only

509
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Speaker 5: one winner at the end of the day.

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Speaker 4: And if you can be like, well, I can't win

511
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Speaker 4: the big game. I mean, what do you want.

512
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Speaker 5: Me to tell you, Like I talked to the guys,

513
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Speaker 5: it sucks. And I watch ten percent as much college

514
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Speaker 5: football as you, but I watch the biggest games, the

515
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Speaker 5: biggest programs, and obviously I am very aware of what's

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Speaker 5: going on.

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Speaker 4: And it was like six years ago, I'm like.

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Speaker 5: Wasn't Hardball's team with way less talent like a bad spot.

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Speaker 4: Away from beating Ohio State? Like wasn't it wasn't? Hasn't

520
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Speaker 4: so much of this narrative of oh can't beat the

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Speaker 4: best teams?

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Speaker 5: Like aren't we basing that partially on a spot we

523
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Speaker 5: all agree was the wrong spot? In a year, he

524
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Speaker 5: would have either been undefeated or in the title game.

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Speaker 5: I don't remember all the details, but there is there's

526
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Speaker 5: just so much data. I'll give you the and a

527
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Speaker 5: different contemporary example, it should not have taken Patrick Mahomes

528
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Speaker 5: for people to realize Andy Reid pretty fucking smart.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you know what?

530
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Speaker 5: And by the way, he would have probably never won

531
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Speaker 5: a super Bowl. Well you know what I mean, if

532
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Speaker 5: it would have just been Alex Smith to the next guy,

533
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Speaker 5: because winning super Bowls are hard. But when every player,

534
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Speaker 5: every quarterback that you have, has their best seasons under

535
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Speaker 5: this and then it's like, oh, like it's so all

536
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Speaker 5: the and I think, by the way, kind of a

537
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Speaker 5: future take, I can see some of the media turning

538
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Speaker 5: on is too strong, but starting to do this.

539
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Speaker 4: Topic, how good is Kyle Shanahan really if.

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Speaker 5: They don't make it, because it's like, oh, these great

541
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Speaker 5: regular seasons, but where's the jewelry, like if they don't

542
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Speaker 5: win the super Bowl, as opposed to being like, well,

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Speaker 5: I don't know, he's taking quarterbacks that the moment they

544
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Speaker 5: leave him are backups or benched or whatever. And win

545
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Speaker 5: twelve games, thirteen games, one playoff games probably pretty good.

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Speaker 4: And so I do think there is that there is

547
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Speaker 4: a a level of.

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Speaker 5: Folks that I think won't go with will only go

549
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 5: with what they truly believe and see, yeah, up until

550
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Speaker 5: it's like, huh, this is not in the mainstream enough anymore,

551
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Speaker 5: I'll disagree with everybody else and so and I think

552
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Speaker 5: that's why not to bring up the Niners again. I

553
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Speaker 5: think that's why people have gotten so frustrated with me

554
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Speaker 5: on brock Purty.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Is it's because so many of the other skeptics laid

557
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Speaker 5: down their swords. And I don't think they were convinced.

558
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 5: I just think they got sick of getting yelled at.

559
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Speaker 5: And what I think folks don't know is in order

560
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 5: to yell at me, you better see me in person,

561
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Speaker 5: because I'm not seeing.

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Speaker 4: Any of it. I'm not reading any of it.

563
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Speaker 5: Like, the only people who get to yell at me

564
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 5: have like are Bruceard Wilde's you and.

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Speaker 4: People I know, so like, I don't really it doesn't

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Speaker 4: impact me.

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Speaker 5: And so the Harball thing is fascinating, and I do

568
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Speaker 5: wonder how much of it is. They didn't like it.

569
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Speaker 5: They just thought the guy was weird and a jerk

570
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Speaker 5: or whatever. And I don't want to describe that to him.

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Speaker 5: I don't know him, but it seemed like a lot

572
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Speaker 5: of it is like I don't like this guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I had four you know, I rely a lot

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Speaker 1: because I'm older, so I know a lot of coaches

575
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Speaker 1: and executives. I go to lunch with him, I have

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Speaker 1: dinner with them. So I know four different coaches who

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Speaker 1: have been on Harbass staff and they all said the

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Speaker 1: same thing. Guy is different. He's the most football obsessed

579
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Speaker 1: guy ever. He's just he's just it's insane. So a

580
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Speaker 1: lot of times I have access you do that. Fans

581
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Speaker 1: don't write that. They don't sure I don't have these.

582
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Speaker 1: I mean I go to dinner probably twice a year

583
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Speaker 1: with Manginie. We talk about shit that I'm not putting

584
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Speaker 1: on the air. Jed Fish is a good friend of mine.

585
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: You know, different guys I've dealt with, so I do

586
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: have some you know, I can call.

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Speaker 4: It part of the job. Yeah, right, this is what

588
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Speaker 4: we do.

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Speaker 1: If you're a mortgage broker listening to me, you have

590
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Speaker 1: access to stuff that I don't have. So but I

591
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: just found the Harbaugh stuff. It's like, guys, Okay, four times,

592
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Speaker 1: including the NFL first year, he took the Niners over.

593
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Speaker 4: They were excellent.

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Speaker 1: And it's like if a lot of people get jobs

595
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Speaker 1: and they don't last. But if you get four different jobs,

596
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Speaker 1: five different jobs, you take crap and you make it

597
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Speaker 1: good immediately, and you're successful in all of them. I

598
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Speaker 1: don't need championships now.

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Speaker 4: And where was he before Stanford? I don't even remember.

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Speaker 4: So he was at San Diego.

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Speaker 1: It was a small university.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and he succeeded there, and he succeeded everywhere.

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Speaker 1: They had a quarterback who was good. He made him

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Speaker 1: really really good. Then he went to Stanford. Stanford was

605
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Speaker 1: the worst program in the country with high academic and

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Speaker 1: they beat as a.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I remember that vividly. I mean I

608
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Speaker 5: remember it, and in my opinion, set the table and

609
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Speaker 5: This is the other thing that happens sometimes to guys.

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Speaker 4: Are you pals with Chris Peterson?

611
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Speaker 5: Yes, like yeah, okay, So I feel like sometimes guys

612
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 5: become victims of their own success, where they make a

613
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Speaker 5: place so relevant or good that it stays that after

614
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Speaker 5: they leave, and then to some folks it's not as

615
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Speaker 5: wildly impressive of what they did when they got there.

616
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Speaker 5: So Chris Peterson like turned Boise State into such a

617
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Speaker 5: power that after he leaves, it's still relevant and it's

618
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Speaker 5: like no, no, no, that was created by him. Similar

619
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Speaker 5: thing happened with Harball with Stanford, like Harball can leave,

620
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Speaker 5: they have Andrew Luck and David Shaw and they're really

621
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Speaker 5: good still, and it's like, oh, yeah, Stanford is always

622
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 5: pretty good. It's like, no, it was not Terry that is.

623
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Speaker 5: I mean, I understand there were times when it was,

624
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 5: and they were involved in famous games obviously, but when

625
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 5: he took it over, it was terrible and made it

626
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Speaker 5: great and the Niners were.

627
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Speaker 4: In the wilderness and it.

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Speaker 5: Instantly turned around. It instantly turned around for them, Which is,

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Speaker 5: if you were advising him, what job would you take

630
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Speaker 5: if he had his pick of all the NFL openings?

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Speaker 1: What job would you tell him, I would say, Jim,

632
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Speaker 1: you recruited Drake May. Do you think he's better than

633
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Speaker 1: Justin Herbert? And if the answer is yes, you take

634
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Speaker 1: the Washington job because Herbert for the next rest of

635
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: his career is expensive. If you believe that Drake May

636
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Speaker 1: is better than Justin Herbert, you take the Washington job.

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Speaker 1: Your brother coaches Baltimore, you take Washington. Your mom and

638
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Speaker 1: dad can move between the two of you. Cap space.

639
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Speaker 1: Good roster Drake May now John. If you don't think

640
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Speaker 1: it is, then just go with the best quarterback. I

641
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: mean the answer in the NFL is almost always go

642
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 1: where the best quarterback is, or draft the best quarterback.

643
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Speaker 1: Chicago draft Caleb Williams. It'll just work out, He'll it'll

644
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Speaker 1: work out, of course, right, So the Chargers is the

645
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Speaker 1: best job unless and wherever Harbaugh goes. What's really an

646
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Speaker 1: advantage is like Pete Carroll or Jimmy Johnson, when they're

647
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: in college and they come to pro, you get about

648
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Speaker 1: a three year window where you know all the college players,

649
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Speaker 1: you recruited all of them.

650
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Speaker 4: Oh, that's a huge edge.

651
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Speaker 1: So the rebuild will be much easier for you. Now,

652
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,240
Speaker 1: the Chargers is not a rebuild, they have cap space

653
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 1: cap issues. Washington's not a total rebuild, but a semi

654
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 1: rebuild with tons of cap space. So Harbaugh can walk

655
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: in and go, yeah, I'm gonna like Jimmy and Pete,

656
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,959
Speaker 1: the rebuild is much easier for me, I know all.

657
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: And by the way, we will trade off some players

658
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Speaker 1: get draft picks. I'll probably take four of my mission

659
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: guys who I know can play, and I'll avoid the

660
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 1: ones that I know that I know can't. So, I mean,

661
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: you go look at Pete Carroll's first three or four

662
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: drafts out of USC. I mean it was just fifth round,

663
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 1: sixth round. I mean he was nailing people. Jimmy Johnson

664
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 1: walks into the league. He is just fish in a barrel.

665
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: So I think Washington's very interesting, no cap issues, marginal rebuild.

666
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: You look around that division and you're like Jalen Hurts,

667
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: Dak Daniel Jones off another winning week three and two,

668
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: blazing five for the record thirteen to the last fifteen

669
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Speaker 1: weeks or is it fourteen of sixteen. I was five

670
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Speaker 1: hundred or better sixty three percent after my disastrous opening

671
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: two weeks, so we had a very good season of

672
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Speaker 1: blazing five Sharper Square, Chad Milman CEO Action Network. All

673
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Speaker 1: odds provided by DraftKings. You know, the game that I

674
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 1: talked myself, you and McIntyre talked me out of was

675
00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 1: the Texans, and so you know the numbers. It did

676
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:05,240
Speaker 1: feel like a Colt's play. But one of the reasons

677
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: I think that the Consumers fans had one of their

678
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: best years ever because increasingly over the last two years

679
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: it has gotten so quarterback centric. Last year, seven of

680
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 1: seven playoff teams in the NFC had offensive coaches. This year,

681
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: it's eleven of fourteen was twelve of fourteen for most

682
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Speaker 1: of the season.

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Speaker 4: And I think c J.

684
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Speaker 1: Stroud listening watching those who either cover him or watch

685
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Speaker 1: him or judge his film, I think we're looking at

686
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 1: a deep ball thrower that is one of the best

687
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 1: in the league accuracy seeing the field. So I know

688
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: the Browns have a better roster, But Joe Flacco's story

689
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: has actually been better than his quarterbacking. His passer rating

690
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: has been ninety. The story's great, his quarterback play has

691
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Speaker 1: been okay. I would take c J. Stroud at home

692
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,720
Speaker 1: plus two and a half. Don't think they have the roster.

693
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Speaker 1: I know rookie quarterbacks don't do all in the playoffs.

694
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Speaker 1: But I think we're looking at a special player. Sharper Square.

695
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Speaker 2: Yeah. The way you're describing it is similar to how

696
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 2: wise guys have been describing CJ. Stroud is that he's

697
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Speaker 2: neo from the matrix, right. There's something about him that

698
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 2: is unicorn esque, and he defies all the expectations. He

699
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Speaker 2: breaks all the models, he changes the rules for what

700
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Speaker 2: we expect. We shouldn't want to bet on a rookie

701
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Speaker 2: coach with a rookie quarterback against the best defense in

702
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Speaker 2: the NFL in the playoffs, and yet that's what we

703
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Speaker 2: want to do. And if you break this game down

704
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 2: a little bit further, the Texans were six and three

705
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 2: at home this year, six and two playing with CJ. Stroud.

706
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Speaker 2: One of those games he missed. It happened to be

707
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 2: the game in which Joe Flacco and Amari Cooper had

708
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Speaker 2: a career day against the Texans in Houston. When he

709
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Speaker 2: was at home, c J. Stroud through for twenty five

710
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Speaker 2: hundred yards. He threw four seven yard no nine yards

711
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Speaker 2: per completion, threw for seventeen touchdowns. When the Cleveland Browns

712
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 2: defense was on the road, they gave up thirty points

713
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Speaker 2: a game. They had eight road games nine holding games.

714
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Speaker 2: In those eight road games, they gave up one hundred

715
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Speaker 2: and twelve more points than they did in the nine

716
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Speaker 2: games at home. Everything about their defense is different when

717
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Speaker 2: they're on the road. So the wise guys are on

718
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,720
Speaker 2: the Texans a two and a half. This game actually

719
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 2: opened to two, got that down to one and a half.

720
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Speaker 2: The public came in and wrote it back up to three.

721
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Speaker 2: Wise guys took the three. Now it's settle to two

722
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Speaker 2: and a half. Personally, I'm waiting hoping that it gets

723
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Speaker 2: back to three sometime before kickoff. A lot of lines

724
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Speaker 2: have been moving aggressively before kickoff, so I'm hoping it

725
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Speaker 2: gets back to three. But the wise guys are with you, Colin.

726
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Speaker 1: Okay, we're not getting the best of the number, not

727
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Speaker 1: even close. But the Chiefs minus four and a half,

728
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Speaker 1: I think you know it's all bets are off zero degrees.

729
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 1: I mean, Tua under like forty degrees has been a

730
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Speaker 1: different quarterback. Tua in December and January is a five

731
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Speaker 1: hundred quarterback. He's a Hawaiian kid who plays in Miami

732
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Speaker 1: and then in Alabama. This is all just like taking

733
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Speaker 1: a surfer and saying, here's anchorage, take your shirt off.

734
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Speaker 1: Good luck. It's just different, So I think I think.

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Speaker 1: I also think the Chiefs rested people at home. They're

736
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Speaker 1: used to it. It's just the weather advantage. I would

737
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Speaker 1: take the Chiefs to cover. The number was at like

738
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Speaker 1: one and a half at one point two, so it's

739
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Speaker 1: not the best of the number, but I think i'd

740
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Speaker 1: still take Chiefs sharper square.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's square at four and a half because of

742
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Speaker 2: what you just said. Look, if it was Chiefs one

743
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Speaker 2: and a half, it was Chiefs two to two and

744
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 2: a half, even Chiefs three, then the wise guys were

745
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Speaker 2: in the Chiefs. But as soon as it got to

746
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Speaker 2: three and a half, and then all of a sudden,

747
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Speaker 2: it's a four and four and a half. You're just

748
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Speaker 2: playing a bad number. And long term you might win

749
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Speaker 2: this weekend, but long term it's not the right play,

750
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 2: right and so there's a couple of things that have

751
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Speaker 2: made this number run. I think one the weather people

752
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Speaker 2: already believe the narrative that the Dolphins can't play in

753
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Speaker 2: the cold, to the injuries that the Dolphins have suffered

754
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Speaker 2: suffered defensively, I don't know how they're going to rush

755
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Speaker 2: the passer. Are they only going to be able to

756
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Speaker 2: rush the passer by blitzing? And if you blitz you

757
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 2: don't win against Patrick Mahomes. But here's the flip side,

758
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Speaker 2: and here's why the wise guys like the Dolphins in

759
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Speaker 2: this spot one. These aren't the Chiefs of years past, right,

760
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Speaker 2: They really don't have any reliable downfield targets. So the

761
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Speaker 2: Dolphins can bracket Travis Kelce coming off the line at

762
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Speaker 2: tight end, double team him, and then you basically put

763
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Speaker 2: Jalen Ramsey on fore she Rice and you've taken away

764
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Speaker 2: all the weapons that Patrick Mahomes has. And the flip

765
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Speaker 2: side is the Chiefs defense is better than anything Patrick

766
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Speaker 2: Mahomes has ever played with. The Dolphins. What's their mo?

767
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:16,280
Speaker 2: While they're a great downfield passing team, they're a really

768
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Speaker 2: great running team. Don't forget Mike McDaniels. He's a running

769
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Speaker 2: game coordinator, right Raheem Moster limited practice, I would expect

770
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Speaker 2: him to play Devon h Chan brilliant out of the

771
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Speaker 2: backfield as are running back this year. I think this

772
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Speaker 2: will be a closer game than people think. So that's

773
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Speaker 2: why the wise guys are taking the four and a half. Personally,

774
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Speaker 2: I took the under forty four and a half. I'm

775
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Speaker 2: not taking a side in this game.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Packers plus seven and a half would be the

777
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Speaker 1: side at Dallas. Dallas is going to score points. Joe

778
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Speaker 1: Berry's defense has been a SIV most of the year,

779
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 1: but Green Bay is a live dog. Four different receivers.

780
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Speaker 1: I like good tight ends, Jordan Love playing well. If

781
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Speaker 1: Dallas went seven and a half for a green Bay team,

782
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Speaker 1: that I mean, if I told you this twenty seven,

783
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Speaker 1: you'd be like, yeah, I can see that. I mean,

784
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,399
Speaker 1: Joe Berry's defense looks good. To get Chicago, it's not good.

785
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Speaker 1: So I think it's a thirty three to twenty seven

786
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Speaker 1: thirty three to twenty eight fun game to watch. Seven

787
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Speaker 1: and a half feels way too heavy. I'll take green Bay.

788
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Speaker 1: Sharper Square totally nailed it.

789
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Speaker 2: Wise, guys are all over green Bay here. It's really

790
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Speaker 2: interesting because this number probably should be power rated at six.

791
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Speaker 2: The line should be about six for this game. You

792
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Speaker 2: have two defenses that you say, Joe Berry and the

793
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 2: Packers defense isn't very good. But look, the Cowboys defense

794
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 2: gets more credit than it deserves. If pass rushes it's

795
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Speaker 2: pass rushes middle of the road. You've got Micah Parsons, who's,

796
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Speaker 2: you know, an All Pro, had more sacks this year

797
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Speaker 2: than he's ever had. And you've got a defensive secondary

798
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Speaker 2: with George Bland, who had more pick sixes than ever

799
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Speaker 2: led the league in interceptions. Between those two spectrums, it's

800
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Speaker 2: a lot of sizzle, not a lot of stak. And

801
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 2: so this is a pass rush that is middling at best.

802
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 2: So I wouldn't expect them to be a team that

803
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Speaker 2: puts Jordan Love on his heels. And by the way,

804
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,399
Speaker 2: they play a lot of man. Jordan Love's passer rating

805
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 2: is thirteen points higher against man that it is against zone.

806
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 2: And what you're doing against Jordan Love right now, don't

807
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 2: forget Dak Prescott lea the league in touchdown passes. Jordan

808
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 2: Love was number two. Jordan Love since November has just

809
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 2: been lights out elite as a quarterback. And I think

810
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 2: it speaks to a coaching advantage for the Packers. Matt

811
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 2: Laflor just a better coach than Mike McCarthy. We've seen it.

812
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy is not great in late game situations. He

813
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,839
Speaker 2: is not great in managing the clock. Very good chance

814
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,959
Speaker 2: to pack. The Cowboys put themselves in a very bad

815
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 2: position with bad decision making late in the game. One

816
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Speaker 2: hundred percent agree with you.

817
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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the easy one Rams plus the points

818
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: three and a half at Lions was for at one point.

819
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 1: I get a coaching advantage, a quarterback advantage, a health advantage,

820
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: and I think people are forgetting just how good the

821
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: Rams draft was. Their first three picks a left guard,

822
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 1: a defensive tackle who should be the rookie of the

823
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: year defensively, an outside linebacker who is relentless. And in

824
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:18,919
Speaker 1: the fifth round they got the steal of the entire

825
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 1: draft in Puka Akua. Their special teams are dubious, so

826
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Speaker 1: that's what scares me. I don't think they win the

827
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. But it's a healthy team, coach, quarterback upgrade,

828
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: and they have young players. We all know Puka, but

829
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: they have nailed this draft. This is a team runs

830
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: the ball, can throw it deep, can rush the passer.

831
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Speaker 1: They're not a great team. You can They're a little

832
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: like Detroit. They can score a lot. You can beat

833
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:52,879
Speaker 1: them over the top. But there's no way I'm giving

834
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,399
Speaker 1: over your field goal to the Rams. The Rams could

835
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 1: easily win this game, Rams plus three and a half

836
00:44:58,280 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 1: sharper square totally right.

837
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 2: Another live dog. By the way, if you're putting together

838
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 2: a money line parlay, you could do worse than putting

839
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 2: together a parlay with the Rams and the Packers. Because

840
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Speaker 2: I agree with you one hundred percent. The wise guys

841
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 2: agree with you as well. They're going to be on

842
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 2: the Rams at three and a half. They did bet

843
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 2: it down from four almost immediately on Sunday night. It

844
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 2: was the first game that the wise guys started pounding on.

845
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 2: The wildcard games were announced, and you didn't even mention

846
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 2: Colin Kyen Williams. This has been a different team since

847
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 2: Kyron Williams came back from injury. Matthew Stafford. When's the

848
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 2: last time like Matthew Stafford wasn't sort of the focal

849
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 2: point of the offense, didn't throw for four thousand yards

850
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 2: this year, played in every game, but this team was

851
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 2: accelerating towards the playoffs when Kyrin Williams came back. Great

852
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 2: coaching season by Sean McVay. I'm curious to me that

853
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 2: you think he's that much better of a coach than

854
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 2: Dan Campbell. I don't see the difference in this game

855
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 2: being on the sidelines. To me, the real difference might

856
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,280
Speaker 2: end up being the fact that Sam Laporta isn't playing

857
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 2: because he's a guy who this past season second most

858
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 2: first down receptions on the Lions, finish the season with

859
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 2: the most receptions ever for a tight end, tied for

860
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 2: the most touchdown receptions. I think the books are discounting

861
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:22,720
Speaker 2: how important he is to the Lions and Jared Goff's comfort.

862
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: This is a line game. If the Eagles are minus

863
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 1: three and a half, I probably go Bucks, But I

864
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,399
Speaker 1: think it's a close twenty seven to twenty four game.

865
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,439
Speaker 1: I'll take the Eagles minus two and a half. Much

866
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: better personnel, I mean Tampa down the stretch, maybe Carolina

867
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: a couple times. I think, you know, it's a little

868
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 1: like the Joe Flacco story. The story is better than

869
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: the reality. I don't think TAM's very good. They don't

870
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: have really a home field advantage. Half that stadium will

871
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: be Eagles fans two and a half. The numbers, to me,

872
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 1: Affilly number sharper square.

873
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:55,959
Speaker 2: It's totally sharp if you play in two and a half.

874
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 2: If it's three and a half, the wise guys are

875
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,359
Speaker 2: going to play the Bucks. That's it. That's that's how

876
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,280
Speaker 2: it's going to go. So check your local list things,

877
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 2: figure out what you want the number to be, and

878
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 2: play the half point on either side. The greatest advantage

879
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 2: that the Bucks really have could be in the middle

880
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 2: of the field with Kate Atton. If you want to

881
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 2: be taking a player prop you might want to think

882
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:21,760
Speaker 2: about playing his over reception yards keep it under say

883
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 2: twenty three twenty four, if you can find that. But

884
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 2: the other advantage has been Baker mayfield to Mike Evans

885
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 2: this year. You know, Mike Evans tied for the league

886
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 2: lead in touchdown receptions. But if it's going to be

887
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 2: terrible weather and there's going to be weather all up

888
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 2: and down throughout the country, then and it might be

889
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 2: torrential rain there, that's going to limit Baker's ability to

890
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 2: get the ball downfield to Mike Evans. So it's a really,

891
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 2: really tricky game to bet. If you have to pick

892
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 2: a side, you got to play the number.

893
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 1: And finally, the Bills game could be moved. There's so

894
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 1: much snow. Buffalo's a much better team. TJ watch not

895
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 1: playing I Mike Tomlin getting ten in crappy weather. It's

896
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,399
Speaker 1: like that's a stayaway game for me. Talk me into

897
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: the side the wise guys like.

898
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 2: Well, look, the wise guys are sort of thinking the

899
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,280
Speaker 2: same thing as you. Right, don't forget this game opened

900
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 2: at seven and a half, it lasted for about thirty seconds,

901
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 2: and got that up immediately to nine and a half ten. I, unfortunately,

902
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 2: am the sucker who looked at it on Tuesday and

903
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 2: was like, yes, screw it, I don't care what the

904
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 2: number is. The Bills are going to destroy this team.

905
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 2: I betted at minus ten, and then forty eight hours later,

906
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 2: I'm getting reports of the winter apocalypse coming into western

907
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 2: New York, so that scares me quite a bit. But

908
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:51,280
Speaker 2: if not for the weather, I would tell you, yeah,

909
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 2: you take the freaking Bills and you eat the number

910
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 2: and you don't care. Because the Steelers forget about the

911
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:01,879
Speaker 2: fact that they're going to have a first playoff game

912
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 2: quarterback in Mason Rudolph, which is never a good scenario. CJ.

913
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 2: Stroud accepted, accepted. Without TJ. Watt, this is just a

914
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 2: different team in terms of they're a bad team. So

915
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 2: you cannot bet on the Steelers if they're not gonna

916
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 2: have TJ. Watt. The problem is the weather, which is

917
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 2: such a mystery and X factor right now. If you

918
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 2: haven't bet it yet, don't.

919
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 1: Bet it good, See anybody, anybody. The volume