WEBVTT - QLS Classic: Jenifer Lewis Part 2

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<v Speaker 1>Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. What's Up.

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<v Speaker 1>It's June and that means it's Black Music.

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<v Speaker 2>Month, and every year on Questlove Supreme and now The

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<v Speaker 2>episode every day that celebrates black music, it's history and

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<v Speaker 1>Relevant to the celebration, offering history, insight a little fun

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<v Speaker 2>So be on the lookout for four brand new episodes

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<v Speaker 2>throughout June, each connected to the past, president future of

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<v Speaker 2>Black music. We're going to highlight trailblazers, innovators, ultra conduits,

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<v Speaker 2>and revolutionaries whose word continues to shape.

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<v Speaker 1>The world around us. Happy June, Happy Black Music Month.

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<v Speaker 3>Put him right now for a moment in his room,

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<v Speaker 3>Give him a treat, and put him in his room.

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<v Speaker 3>Little ship, you got me by the nose, Mossy fucking

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<v Speaker 3>scared of me. This nigga don't know because he's so pretty.

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<v Speaker 3>Motherfucker already told is going. I'm not gonna cut.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be no curse. We super were here for.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get in it, ladies and gentlemen of qus Ology.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Based on that.

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<v Speaker 2>Energy, people warned that this episode just my top Thejesus

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<v Speaker 2>Mirror episode as the most realist, most problematic, the most

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<v Speaker 2>realist in QULS history.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm here for it. I'm manifesting it again.

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<v Speaker 2>This quest a lot of supreme your your paradise of

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes awesome and occasionally useless information or edumacation. Are our

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<v Speaker 2>two brethren unpaid Bill and and.

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<v Speaker 1>Sugar Steve are?

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<v Speaker 2>I guess you could say they're holding down their illustrious

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<v Speaker 2>careers right now so they won't be joining us. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is filing to be a pow wow with Hello, Laya,

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<v Speaker 1>how you doing? You're a right now?

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<v Speaker 3>I was waiting for you to say, with the blacks.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on now be the ojs. We're a trio today

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<v Speaker 1>we are what a trio?

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<v Speaker 2>With that said, ladies and gentlemen, I will say that

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<v Speaker 2>our illustrious guest is indeed okay. So since the title

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<v Speaker 2>is somewhat self proclaimed, uh it was the title of

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<v Speaker 2>her first memoir, which was The Mother Black Hollywood. I

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<v Speaker 2>would like to say that probably that title for her

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<v Speaker 2>might be somewhat reductive, because I feel that she's more

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<v Speaker 2>than just the Mother Black Hollywood. You know, for a

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<v Speaker 2>woman or a human of her stature. And I don't

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<v Speaker 2>believe in numbers sometimes, especially when like he is trying

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<v Speaker 2>to remind me how old I am. But I will

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<v Speaker 2>say that for over four decades, our guest has been

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<v Speaker 2>going strong in ways that you know, her contemporaries can't

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<v Speaker 2>even compete with.

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<v Speaker 1>And I will say that she is.

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<v Speaker 2>She is conquered and taken every medium by storm. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna I had to write them all down, so let's

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<v Speaker 2>go with it.

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<v Speaker 1>You'd be pro musical.

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<v Speaker 2>In nineteen seventy nine, pre Broadway dream Girls, where she

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<v Speaker 2>was the title of fie wright Bette Midler's background singers

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<v Speaker 2>were called Harlett's Right, So yes, she has a harlot

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<v Speaker 2>in Bette Midler's show.

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<v Speaker 1>She's landed many a scene stealing moment.

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<v Speaker 2>And practically every show that she's ever be a TV

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<v Speaker 2>or movies name him Murphy Brown, Dream One, I Love

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<v Speaker 2>Dream One.

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<v Speaker 1>That's one of my favorite shows.

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<v Speaker 2>Living Color Rock, Hang with Missus Cooper, A Different World.

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<v Speaker 2>She's on Helen on Fresh Prince of bel Air. She

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<v Speaker 2>was deemed Davenport on Different World, Tina Turner's Mom and

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<v Speaker 2>What Love Got to Do With It?

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<v Speaker 1>Yo. She was even in Friends. I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 2>Black people, right, I didn't even know that black people

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<v Speaker 2>were in Friends, Lucky's Mom and Poetic Justice.

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<v Speaker 1>Yo.

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<v Speaker 2>The way she tells him to shut the fuck up

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<v Speaker 2>in Poetic Justice is my favorite. That is my favorite

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<v Speaker 2>use of shut the fuck up I ever heard anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Name it, Death Presidents, Girl Six, The Preacher's Wife, The Temptations, Castaway, Strong.

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<v Speaker 1>Medicine, Pixar's Cars.

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<v Speaker 2>She was Tony's Mom and Girlfriends Family Reunion, Right, Pethan

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<v Speaker 2>Brown's You Want a Man and That's O, Raven Boston,

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<v Speaker 2>Legal Princess and the Frog Think Like a Man, Baggot's

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<v Speaker 2>claim a gazillion animated voice over.

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<v Speaker 1>Yo. She even Erica's mom in the On and On video.

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<v Speaker 2>She's so bad, yes, And I'm wearing my bother you

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<v Speaker 2>shirt right now as we speak.

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<v Speaker 1>Yo.

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<v Speaker 2>She was even in this this unknown local syndicated production

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<v Speaker 2>of some show called Blackish.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys might have heard of it.

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<v Speaker 2>She has written two very informative books on her life.

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<v Speaker 1>She's the reason why I believe in audiobooks. Before.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying I was one of those snobs that

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<v Speaker 2>was like, you know, you know those people are like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>the book is better. You know, you see the movie

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<v Speaker 2>and they're like, oh, the book is better. And then

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<v Speaker 2>there are people that book shamy because I don't have

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<v Speaker 2>a tangible thing to read, and they're like, well, you're

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<v Speaker 2>not reading the book.

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<v Speaker 1>Yoused to listen to audio.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, during the pandemic, I've read like seventy books more.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm more edgu macated than I've ever been. Ladies and gentlemen,

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<v Speaker 2>this this introduction has been ten minutes long.

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<v Speaker 4>Please welcome, and we still haven't finished with her discography.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, dude, it's just too much. The name even Disney

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<v Speaker 2>rides with her voice in it. Please welcome to Quest

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<v Speaker 2>of Supreme. Jennifer Lewis, Thank you for coming.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello, Welcome. Yes, it's great to be here. It's great

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<v Speaker 3>to be here, Scot. I'm loving all of these conversations

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<v Speaker 3>about the book and my career. Might as well get

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<v Speaker 3>it out of the way. I received I just received

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<v Speaker 3>my star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes you did.

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<v Speaker 3>I am still flying high from it. Right before the

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<v Speaker 3>Hollywood Walk of Fame, I went on one of my

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<v Speaker 3>trips around the world. I went to ang called Watt

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<v Speaker 3>in Cambodia. I took a helicopter through the Himalayan Mountain

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<v Speaker 3>range and set my eyes on Mount Everest. I'm trying

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<v Speaker 3>to say that without crying. What was that experience like, Well,

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<v Speaker 3>let me give you this story.

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<v Speaker 1>Hit me.

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<v Speaker 3>It was one of the most beautiful moments of the trip.

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<v Speaker 3>The captain of it. It's a private jet, A have

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<v Speaker 3>a Crombie and Kent. It does these trips around the world.

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<v Speaker 3>And because I only get so much time free, I

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<v Speaker 3>have to get on a jet like that, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and go and do as much as I can. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>trying to see the entire world before my knees give out.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to go to mach Peach you and say, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>the incors were up there. No, bitch, I'm climbing this motherfucker.

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<v Speaker 1>You climb it.

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<v Speaker 3>I just she wouldn't. No. I climbed Anchor watches now

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<v Speaker 3>and I had this little Jordaanian boy take me up.

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<v Speaker 3>Petra in Jordan's the Heels of Moses. Most beautiful thing

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<v Speaker 3>I've ever seen in my life, you understand me. I

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<v Speaker 3>have seen the cultural treasures of this world. The Grand

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<v Speaker 3>Mosque in Abu Dhabi. I just took a. I just

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<v Speaker 3>played camel polo in Dubai and took a helicopter over

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<v Speaker 3>all those islands, the palm trees and the crowns, and

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<v Speaker 3>I also, this is what happened. The captain of the

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<v Speaker 3>pilot said, ladies and gentlemen, if you'll look off to

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<v Speaker 3>the right of the plane, I believe I see the

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<v Speaker 3>peaks of the Himalayan mountain range and there was there

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<v Speaker 3>was Everest sitting above the Cumulonimbus clouds. And I said,

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<v Speaker 3>as I was filming outside of the plane, I just

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<v Speaker 3>was saying to myself. There was a yoga teacher right

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<v Speaker 3>next to me, one of the passengers, and she overheard

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<v Speaker 3>me say, dear God, I've wanted to climb to the

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<v Speaker 3>top of that mountain since I was thirteen years old.

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<v Speaker 3>And she looked at me and said, look at you.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you're above it. Shit, God, damn I And when

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<v Speaker 3>I saw it with my own eyes, you know, they

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<v Speaker 3>put the helicopter down at eleven thousand feet and we

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<v Speaker 3>only have seven minutes to take pictures of Everest and

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<v Speaker 3>that whole world, of the base camp at the base

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<v Speaker 3>of Everest. It was unbelievable. It was it was stunning,

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<v Speaker 3>it was majesty. It was God itself. You understand me,

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<v Speaker 3>a little colored girl from Kenlock, Missouri who ate dirt

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<v Speaker 3>at a little girl and set a little booty on

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<v Speaker 3>our wooden hall to shit in nineteen below zero in

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<v Speaker 3>Saint Louis, Missouri. We went on to India, Catman Do

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<v Speaker 3>and I still in front of the taj Mahal. It

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<v Speaker 3>was an unbelievable trip. And then to come back to

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<v Speaker 3>the United States and become a part of a cultural

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<v Speaker 3>treasure in Hollywood. It's been a ride, ladies and gentlemen.

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<v Speaker 3>And let me tell you, I walk around in a

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<v Speaker 3>state of Greece. I never gave one hundred percent, y'all.

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<v Speaker 3>I gave two thousand because I didn't know how not to.

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<v Speaker 3>I was born with this charisma and this gift, and

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<v Speaker 3>I have tried to honor it all my life. It's

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<v Speaker 3>been a hell of a ride with my bipolar disorder,

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<v Speaker 3>but I contained it. I stayed. As I said in

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<v Speaker 3>the ceremony accepting the star. It was not the work

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<v Speaker 3>I did on camera and on stage that has put

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<v Speaker 3>this broad smile on my face that defines my success.

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<v Speaker 3>It was the work God did off It was the

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<v Speaker 3>journaling it was the therapy. It was after five years

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<v Speaker 3>agreeing to get on medication. I don't want to have

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<v Speaker 3>a push medication, but I take it. And when I

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<v Speaker 3>talk like this, I tell everybody this ain't the truth.

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<v Speaker 3>This is my truth, This is my story, this is

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<v Speaker 3>my song. So if you ask me, I'm gonna tell

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<v Speaker 3>you this is how I did it. Ha ha, And look

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<v Speaker 3>at me. Now I did it.

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<v Speaker 1>This is already the greatest episode of in the five

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<v Speaker 1>year history.

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<v Speaker 4>So when you were talking about medication with your bipolar disorder,

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<v Speaker 4>what led to the decision to get on it after

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<v Speaker 4>years of not being on what?

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<v Speaker 1>How did you make that decision?

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<v Speaker 3>Let me tell you something. Human beings changed for two reasons,

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<v Speaker 3>and two reasons only because we are habitual creatures. One

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<v Speaker 3>is a deadly disease. Two, you just got to get tired,

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<v Speaker 3>sick and tire of being sick and tired. It wears

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<v Speaker 3>you out right, It will wear you out to continue

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<v Speaker 3>a habit over and over and over again. And see,

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<v Speaker 3>I had a sex addiction, and little girl, there's only

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<v Speaker 3>so much sex you can have, for God's sake. But

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<v Speaker 3>here's the thing about the medication. It took my therapist

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<v Speaker 3>five years for me to come to that decision, because

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<v Speaker 3>I thought it would take my edge. I told her,

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<v Speaker 3>I said, he look, I'm Jennifer motherfucking Lewis, bitch. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't even know goddamn medication. Ain't nothing wrong with me? Well,

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<v Speaker 3>missus Lewis, Yes, there was something wrong. I was not happy.

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<v Speaker 3>The mania of bipolar disorder is dangerous. You understand, you

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<v Speaker 3>do dumb shit like speed in a car, and you're

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<v Speaker 3>not thinking that you could hit a whole van full

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<v Speaker 3>of children. Come on, now, I don't do roll rage

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<v Speaker 3>no more. Because a friend of mine said to me

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<v Speaker 3>once when I flipped somebody out, I flipped somebody off

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<v Speaker 3>when I was younger. My friend turned to me, Jennifer

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<v Speaker 3>and said, Jennifer, oh, what if that person's mother just

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<v Speaker 3>died and they just heard about it, and you you

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<v Speaker 3>telling them to go fuck themselves? What's wrong with you?

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<v Speaker 3>I never now, baby, I let people go. Somebody's got

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<v Speaker 3>to say something to stop you from ruining your life.

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<v Speaker 3>And I say to everybody, with seven point six billion

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<v Speaker 3>people on this planet, you've got to ask for help.

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<v Speaker 3>Somebody's there, don't you dare spending your life in those

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<v Speaker 3>dark rooms like I did? You wake your ass up.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes when I wake up, I have to pull on

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<v Speaker 3>sojourn a skirt. Sometimes I have to say, Harry, where

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<v Speaker 3>are you at? Sometimes I have to pull up Mandela's

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<v Speaker 3>photograph to remind myself of how fragile his shoulders were

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<v Speaker 3>and that I'm standing on him. You don't go to

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<v Speaker 3>South Africa and go over to that island and see

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<v Speaker 3>that cell huh, and not walk out of there and

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<v Speaker 3>come home and say I, Oh, you don't get to

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<v Speaker 3>do You gotta give back, Jenny. You got to tell

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<v Speaker 3>the world what you've seen, don't you dare? We are

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<v Speaker 3>as sick as our secrets, So don't keep noting. God

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<v Speaker 3>damn it. You tell somebody I don't care what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>And if they don't listen, to go tell somebody else.

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<v Speaker 3>Go ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>The other question, great question I had in regards to

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<v Speaker 4>you talking about your sex addictions. How did you determine

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<v Speaker 4>what was the line of location between Okay, I'm a

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<v Speaker 4>person who enjoyed sex versus okay, this is an addiction.

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<v Speaker 3>J'ah when you start picking up men. I was so

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<v Speaker 3>bold in my ship, and I was so well I

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<v Speaker 3>know I still am, but I was knocking honey, I

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<v Speaker 3>was a brick house. Some motherfucker couldn't touch me. In

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<v Speaker 3>my twenties, I was so pretty. I got to take it.

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<v Speaker 3>But I had got have skin like a baby's ass,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was honey. I was at the top of

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<v Speaker 3>my game. I was on Broadway. I'm largeout, I had

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<v Speaker 3>that thin ass waistline. I still got it, but I

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<v Speaker 3>needed to come down from those Broadway shows. When you

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<v Speaker 3>can get a standing ovation, you think you you think

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<v Speaker 3>somebody wants it to end. No, so I went and

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<v Speaker 3>did another show in my bedroom. You see with more adoration.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me yes, and let me tell you something. You

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<v Speaker 3>get tired, You get tired. I didn't think about because

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<v Speaker 3>of the mania. I wasn't thinking of the dangers of

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<v Speaker 3>that taking a strange man to your house. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know if y'all might be too young to remember mister Goodbar,

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<v Speaker 3>the movie with Diane Keith, It's too much Wait.

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<v Speaker 1>When we first got cable, my parents whenever that was like,

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<v Speaker 1>go to your room and me, I'm like, what is

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<v Speaker 1>this a good part?

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<v Speaker 3>Something is like, yeah, well it was dangerous. And let

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<v Speaker 3>me tell y'all something. I never thought I'd run around

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<v Speaker 3>quoting the Constitution. M but I undersand this, and it

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<v Speaker 3>is my motto. We all have a right to the

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<v Speaker 3>pursuit of happiness. I wanted to be happy. I was

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<v Speaker 3>depressed for many years and didn't even know it. They

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<v Speaker 3>didn't happen. Words like bipolar shit. I went on opera

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<v Speaker 3>long time ago, told them sixty million people out my pole.

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<v Speaker 3>I lie, I'm tripole in these streets. Okay, new shit,

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<v Speaker 3>tripoll the new shit. There's another poll over there. But listen,

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<v Speaker 3>you have to be in it to win it. I

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<v Speaker 3>gave up many times in my career, but I didn't quit,

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<v Speaker 3>you hear me, I didn't quit. Yeah, I tell these kids,

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<v Speaker 3>you must dream the dream and focus only on that

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<v Speaker 3>so that you can be well with your soul.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gled you said that because okay, so I too

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<v Speaker 2>was trying to figure out And here's you know. The

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<v Speaker 2>disclosure is, yes, I mean I've been in and out of.

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<v Speaker 1>Not in and out of.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I've you know, I've had a therapist. I

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<v Speaker 2>guess you can say in and out. I've been doing

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<v Speaker 2>therapy for like thirty years. But you know the thing is,

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<v Speaker 2>when the pandemic came really you know again, like I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like a person shouldn't have to be at

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<v Speaker 2>rock bottom to make the change. So that's why I'm

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<v Speaker 2>really glad the pandemic happened because it wasn't a rock

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<v Speaker 2>bottom moment. But that was definitely somewhat of a paradigm

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<v Speaker 2>shift for me and taken mental health seriously and all

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<v Speaker 2>those things. But you mentioned something, and I noticed that

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<v Speaker 2>probably the time that I might be liable to get

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<v Speaker 2>in an argument. I mean, not a fight, not like

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<v Speaker 2>pugilism or anything. But there's a moment after I get

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<v Speaker 2>off stage where I can't describe the feeling and you

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<v Speaker 2>you said that, and I was like, oh, so I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not I've you know, I just thought like, well, me're

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes you're just an asshole. After the thirty minutes after

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<v Speaker 2>roots show, it's almost like after a root show, I

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<v Speaker 2>purposely look for a place to just sit silent and

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<v Speaker 2>literally come down.

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<v Speaker 1>And I can't explain it.

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<v Speaker 2>And the thing is is like right after a show,

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<v Speaker 2>that's when people were pulling for you and a mair,

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<v Speaker 2>let's talk to rite and I can't explain. And the

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<v Speaker 2>thing is, it's like, because these people aren't entertainers, it's

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<v Speaker 2>hard to really explain to them the process I go through,

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<v Speaker 2>which is kind of why. It's almost like an a that

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<v Speaker 2>feeling of when you're done a show, and that how

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<v Speaker 2>you feel is such a description less addiction that I

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<v Speaker 2>can't describe that. I figured out that for the at

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<v Speaker 2>least the last thirty years, I've been doing DJ gigs

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<v Speaker 2>after the Root show because I love music and because

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<v Speaker 2>I love DJ, but basically I need to slowly come

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<v Speaker 2>down off that high normalcy. So usually after Roots show,

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<v Speaker 2>I will DJ for three hours so that way I

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<v Speaker 2>don't have to talk to people. I'm playing music and

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<v Speaker 2>I come down. But and sometimes when I'm not DJing,

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder what that is, And I thought I was

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<v Speaker 2>the only person going through that, because again, if you,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel weird in talking about the mental health space

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<v Speaker 2>thing and have my occupation because I always feel like

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<v Speaker 2>people look at me like, eh, here's the world Stiny's violin,

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<v Speaker 2>Like if people are in a certain profession, they might

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<v Speaker 2>not they might feel unworthy of having problems or whatnot.

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<v Speaker 1>Like people might not at.

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<v Speaker 5>This point, the world knows entertainers have trauma. Right, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>just let me interject here, yeah, yes, please please, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>First of all, we are not normal creatures. Yeah right,

0:20:47.640 --> 0:20:53.040
<v Speaker 3>we are artists. We are different, Are we better? Are

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<v Speaker 3>worse than anyone? No, we just are who we are

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<v Speaker 3>and we form who we form the artistry. It's like

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<v Speaker 3>Lena Simone said, an artist's duty is to speak to

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<v Speaker 3>the times. Need A Simon didn't hide her pain and

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<v Speaker 3>need A Simone laid it on the piano. We have

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<v Speaker 3>to learn where to put that quest. You have to

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<v Speaker 3>put that somewhere. You have to compartmentalize that you expressed

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<v Speaker 3>it beautifully. It's called a glory train. Love you hear

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<v Speaker 3>me talking to you. It's a glory train. And nobody

0:21:45.560 --> 0:21:47.800
<v Speaker 3>can stay on that train too long. You got to

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<v Speaker 3>come off. You got to get in the grass, and

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<v Speaker 3>you got to surround yourself with nature and have that gratitude.

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<v Speaker 3>It is a gratitude moment, so use it for that.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't have to go crazy. Most people go and

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<v Speaker 3>get drunk and party and carry on. Okay, you get

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of those a month, but then sit the

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<v Speaker 3>fuck down and talk about those feelings. Write them down

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<v Speaker 3>so that the next time you feel it you have

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<v Speaker 3>something to balance it. Nobody's coming with the answer, nobody's

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<v Speaker 3>coming with the recipe. You got to pay attention to

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<v Speaker 3>the self. It is the journey within that will get

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<v Speaker 3>you where you need to be because what you will discover,

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<v Speaker 3>HM is how short life is. Listen to me, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Want to know how?

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<v Speaker 3>You want to know how I live? I live like

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<v Speaker 3>I got five minutes left? What if? What if you

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<v Speaker 3>add fo fge minutes left? Who would you call? H?

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<v Speaker 3>Think about that? Shit? What it? And I live like that.

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<v Speaker 3>I ain't gonna lie to you. Sometimes it's something as

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<v Speaker 3>as like when my assistant leaves, I want to swim,

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<v Speaker 3>but the shadows have come over the pool, so it

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<v Speaker 3>gets a little chill, and I stand there and go, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to get in this pool. Jenny, get

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<v Speaker 3>in the fucking pool and relax yourself. You gotta talk

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<v Speaker 3>to yourself. But guess why I got in the pool

0:23:37.760 --> 0:23:40.760
<v Speaker 3>because when I woke up, I wrote it down. You

0:23:40.880 --> 0:23:46.920
<v Speaker 3>will swim today, you got That's what living on purpose

0:23:47.119 --> 0:23:50.640
<v Speaker 3>is about. You can't go Will and Nelly through this, bitch.

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<v Speaker 3>It'll teach you a lot. This is why that you

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<v Speaker 3>are in charge. Write the ship down. You write your

0:24:01.040 --> 0:24:05.280
<v Speaker 3>story instead of like I said, going Willy Nelly, skipping,

0:24:05.680 --> 0:24:10.760
<v Speaker 3>temptoeing through the fucking tulips. That's what look. Life is

0:24:10.840 --> 0:24:13.520
<v Speaker 3>not a rehearsal. Live this, bitch.

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<v Speaker 5>Can I just say real quick, excuse me, let me,

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<v Speaker 5>let me just say this. And I hate to be

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<v Speaker 5>all corny and go to the book that you have

0:24:20.119 --> 0:24:22.080
<v Speaker 5>out the Walking in Your Joy? But I just realize,

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<v Speaker 5>am I saying that right?

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<v Speaker 3>Walking in your joy? Yes, that's walking in my joy

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<v Speaker 3>and my joy?

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<v Speaker 5>But it's so interesting because a lot of people write

0:24:29.600 --> 0:24:31.719
<v Speaker 5>books and they say things, but I like that you

0:24:31.760 --> 0:24:33.960
<v Speaker 5>have some real practical things, like what you just said

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<v Speaker 5>to a mirror about living in those five minutes. And

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<v Speaker 5>then you wrote something else that caught me and you said,

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<v Speaker 5>when you're feeling down, you come up with a song

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<v Speaker 5>about your how much you love yourself and how much

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<v Speaker 5>people love you.

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<v Speaker 3>That's I'm realizing.

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<v Speaker 5>Although I haven't finished the book, can people like depend that?

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<v Speaker 5>Like you pretty much got little workable jewels in here?

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<v Speaker 5>Not just like girl, live your best life. It's actually

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<v Speaker 5>like no, exactly exactly, but here's the work.

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<v Speaker 3>Work is how am I gonna live my best life? Right?

0:25:05.119 --> 0:25:08.359
<v Speaker 3>And that? And that's the work. That's what you write

0:25:08.520 --> 0:25:12.160
<v Speaker 3>down in the morning, y'alls. I don't know if you know.

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<v Speaker 3>But when I wrote The Mother Black Hollywood, I started

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<v Speaker 3>writing in a journal in the seventh grade. No I

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<v Speaker 3>because I knew I was gonna be a star and

0:25:27.560 --> 0:25:33.520
<v Speaker 3>I would need my book. That's seventh grade continuously, I

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<v Speaker 3>am sixty five. There are sixty seven journals of Oh

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so jealous. That is why don't we do this matter?

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<v Speaker 3>Why don't we start? And stop? And I got about

0:25:44.480 --> 0:25:50.240
<v Speaker 3>six damn it so good detail she saw. The Black

0:25:50.320 --> 0:25:53.720
<v Speaker 3>Hollywood is so good because of the details. I can

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<v Speaker 3>tell you that I had hot apple pie with your

0:25:58.640 --> 0:26:02.639
<v Speaker 3>only Ralph on this it's dated. Damn you see, you see,

0:26:02.720 --> 0:26:09.199
<v Speaker 3>you see, so nothing is wasted. Live your life. And

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<v Speaker 3>when I got into therapy the first time, my therapist

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<v Speaker 3>looked at me when I told I'd written all those journals,

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<v Speaker 3>she said, that's what saved your life, little girl. I

0:26:17.720 --> 0:26:20.920
<v Speaker 3>believe it. I didn't know I was saving my life. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>but that journal served in me learning at an early age.

0:26:29.720 --> 0:26:35.040
<v Speaker 3>I didn't even know I was doing it. To be

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<v Speaker 3>in charge of me and leave other people alone, Jill.

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<v Speaker 3>People come and go for a season, let it go

0:26:44.480 --> 0:26:47.520
<v Speaker 3>when they're no longer of reflection of you. You're not

0:26:47.560 --> 0:26:51.000
<v Speaker 3>gonna be comfortable around them. If the toxic shit is

0:26:51.040 --> 0:26:53.479
<v Speaker 3>going on, the lies and the chaos, y'all get the

0:26:53.480 --> 0:26:56.200
<v Speaker 3>fuck out of there. You ain't there. There are many

0:26:56.280 --> 0:27:01.120
<v Speaker 3>rooms to go to, there are many cities. Leave the room.

0:27:01.640 --> 0:27:04.320
<v Speaker 3>Fuck out it there. Shits simple. Don't sit there with

0:27:04.400 --> 0:27:08.399
<v Speaker 3>all that drama and shitty practical things you can use.

0:27:08.880 --> 0:27:12.400
<v Speaker 3>It's so boring. It's boring. I said, the greatest sin

0:27:12.640 --> 0:27:15.920
<v Speaker 3>is somebody to say, oh, I'm bored, bitch, They're to

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<v Speaker 3>have my.

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<v Speaker 1>Money, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So of course, like in the last two years is

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<v Speaker 2>the most that I've heard black people speaking on finding

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<v Speaker 2>joy and finding their their mental health and all those things.

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<v Speaker 1>Because previously it was a secret.

0:27:37.440 --> 0:27:40.879
<v Speaker 2>I would never, like in two thousand and eleven, I

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<v Speaker 2>would never share with nobody.

0:27:42.440 --> 0:27:47.560
<v Speaker 3>That like it's trauma attached it a you right, because.

0:27:47.280 --> 0:27:49.359
<v Speaker 1>You don't want to share, like people think I'm crazy.

0:27:49.440 --> 0:27:52.280
<v Speaker 2>Whatever the thing is is that I know that for

0:27:52.640 --> 0:28:00.520
<v Speaker 2>black people, their go to answer was always the church,

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<v Speaker 2>especially of an older you know, I was born in

0:28:04.040 --> 0:28:04.600
<v Speaker 2>seventy one.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you were born before I was.

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<v Speaker 2>For a lot of people in you know, pre eighties,

0:28:11.920 --> 0:28:15.040
<v Speaker 2>people whatever, like their thing is always like I'll find

0:28:15.080 --> 0:28:18.119
<v Speaker 2>God or I'll talk to my preacher. How so this

0:28:18.200 --> 0:28:23.600
<v Speaker 2>is almost a phenomenally to hear of your your generation,

0:28:23.720 --> 0:28:28.560
<v Speaker 2>of your experience, really not even diving into the pool

0:28:28.680 --> 0:28:30.560
<v Speaker 2>of mental therapy. But I mean, you're going to the

0:28:30.600 --> 0:28:33.159
<v Speaker 2>abyss of it, You're going to the deepest level of it.

0:28:33.480 --> 0:28:34.800
<v Speaker 1>So what was it?

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<v Speaker 2>What was the moment that told you that my mental

0:28:41.320 --> 0:28:45.120
<v Speaker 2>health has to be addressed in and handled this way

0:28:45.520 --> 0:28:50.280
<v Speaker 2>as opposed to I do consider that, I do consider

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<v Speaker 2>organized religion as a vice akin to gambling sex.

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<v Speaker 3>Joss, let me say this to you. Yeah, there's a

0:28:59.760 --> 0:29:04.960
<v Speaker 3>line in the movie I did, Karina Karina where the

0:29:05.000 --> 0:29:12.040
<v Speaker 3>where the little girl says, these people believe I'm paraphrasing,

0:29:12.080 --> 0:29:15.239
<v Speaker 3>but they said, these people believe in God. And the

0:29:15.280 --> 0:29:18.720
<v Speaker 3>people that somebody that said it was Jewish. And the

0:29:18.840 --> 0:29:22.240
<v Speaker 3>question that was asked by a child was she said,

0:29:22.240 --> 0:29:26.720
<v Speaker 3>why do these people sing about this? And the mother

0:29:26.800 --> 0:29:31.000
<v Speaker 3>said because it makes them feel good? And the little

0:29:31.000 --> 0:29:36.440
<v Speaker 3>girl said, what's wrong with that? Mother said, I guess nothing. Look,

0:29:38.200 --> 0:29:41.280
<v Speaker 3>if you want to be an organized religion, that's okay.

0:29:41.400 --> 0:29:43.480
<v Speaker 3>Let people do what they want to do. That's what

0:29:43.560 --> 0:29:48.160
<v Speaker 3>gets me through life, to allow allow others to be

0:29:48.320 --> 0:29:50.760
<v Speaker 3>where they are. What you gonna do, Go and make

0:29:50.800 --> 0:29:52.959
<v Speaker 3>them a Buddhist, Go and make them a move them.

0:29:52.960 --> 0:29:56.800
<v Speaker 3>You're gonna make them. What are you gonna do? Once again?

0:29:57.480 --> 0:30:04.120
<v Speaker 3>Once again, pay attention to yourself. Everybody on this planet

0:30:04.160 --> 0:30:09.120
<v Speaker 3>has one job and one job on self care. And

0:30:09.160 --> 0:30:11.400
<v Speaker 3>if you need to cry to Jesus to do that,

0:30:11.440 --> 0:30:15.120
<v Speaker 3>then you go on and cry to Jesus. But allow

0:30:15.280 --> 0:30:17.520
<v Speaker 3>other people to cry to whoever the hell they want

0:30:17.520 --> 0:30:20.320
<v Speaker 3>to cry to. That's what I don't like about religion.

0:30:20.600 --> 0:30:25.760
<v Speaker 3>Everybody think their religion is the best one. So I

0:30:25.800 --> 0:30:29.360
<v Speaker 3>don't believe in that. Lead people alone. Lead people alone.

0:30:29.440 --> 0:30:31.480
<v Speaker 3>If they want to work, you, let them work to Jesus,

0:30:31.800 --> 0:30:35.480
<v Speaker 3>let them work in Buddha or a Mohammed or Allah.

0:30:35.640 --> 0:30:37.640
<v Speaker 3>Let people do who the fuck they want to do.

0:30:38.680 --> 0:30:42.760
<v Speaker 3>I know who I am. I searched every religion in

0:30:42.800 --> 0:30:47.720
<v Speaker 3>this world. I have been down the road let's travel,

0:30:48.640 --> 0:30:52.080
<v Speaker 3>and when I got to the end, that wasn't not

0:30:52.240 --> 0:30:59.320
<v Speaker 3>but the big ass mirror. You cannot run. Wherever you run,

0:30:59.440 --> 0:31:04.280
<v Speaker 3>you will meet yourself. So there's no running. And I

0:31:04.320 --> 0:31:07.240
<v Speaker 3>told them on the breakfast club, I got money to

0:31:07.360 --> 0:31:14.640
<v Speaker 3>run and run. You can't run. You don't ask me.

0:31:14.880 --> 0:31:17.360
<v Speaker 3>Don't ask me for now. I'm like, uh, what's his name?

0:31:17.400 --> 0:31:22.040
<v Speaker 3>The baby? I love Dave Chapelle. I'm rich, bitch, don't

0:31:22.080 --> 0:31:24.280
<v Speaker 3>ask me for shit? All right, there you go.

0:31:25.680 --> 0:31:27.520
<v Speaker 5>What do you say to him to even like to

0:31:27.520 --> 0:31:29.960
<v Speaker 5>what on Ameir's question? Like you're leading the pack of

0:31:29.960 --> 0:31:32.880
<v Speaker 5>your generation in that way? Like he said, like you're

0:31:33.320 --> 0:31:36.040
<v Speaker 5>it is kind of special. Do you see in the

0:31:36.120 --> 0:31:39.240
<v Speaker 5>difference in the generational power Now? I'm using words and

0:31:39.560 --> 0:31:41.959
<v Speaker 5>had vocabulary for things that we didn't have before.

0:31:42.200 --> 0:31:45.000
<v Speaker 3>When I went, huh, I got you. When I went

0:31:45.040 --> 0:31:48.040
<v Speaker 3>on the road with the Mother Black Hollywood, because it

0:31:48.200 --> 0:31:52.320
<v Speaker 3>was my journey through bipolar disorder, I was able to

0:31:52.440 --> 0:31:57.920
<v Speaker 3>feel not only the temperature, but the temperament of the

0:31:58.040 --> 0:32:01.440
<v Speaker 3>United States. I went all over. During the Trump era,

0:32:02.440 --> 0:32:05.640
<v Speaker 3>people are starting to wake up. I was very pleased.

0:32:05.840 --> 0:32:09.920
<v Speaker 3>They're starting to get counseling in churches, they are starting

0:32:09.960 --> 0:32:14.040
<v Speaker 3>to put more counseling in youth centers. Our children are

0:32:14.080 --> 0:32:18.600
<v Speaker 3>falling apart, and I'm not the only woman in the

0:32:18.600 --> 0:32:22.840
<v Speaker 3>world that cares. People are coming together. We are getting better.

0:32:23.120 --> 0:32:25.880
<v Speaker 3>Everybody wanted to talk about the stigma. Yes, there is

0:32:25.920 --> 0:32:29.320
<v Speaker 3>a stigma, but we are getting better. You see, my

0:32:29.440 --> 0:32:33.960
<v Speaker 3>mother didn't have the Oprah Winfrey ship. Okay, that's what

0:32:34.000 --> 0:32:37.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying. Yeah, Mamma didn't know nothing about mental illness.

0:32:37.200 --> 0:32:40.120
<v Speaker 3>And yet if someone were to ask me, I would say,

0:32:40.120 --> 0:32:43.760
<v Speaker 3>absolutely she was. I do believe that she was depressed.

0:32:43.920 --> 0:32:46.160
<v Speaker 3>She had me when she was twenty six years old

0:32:46.360 --> 0:32:50.520
<v Speaker 3>and I was her seventh child. Whoa, she was scrubbed,

0:32:50.560 --> 0:32:53.200
<v Speaker 3>and she was scrubbing white people's floors. You think she

0:32:53.320 --> 0:32:57.360
<v Speaker 3>had time to give me affection. She was exhausted by

0:32:57.400 --> 0:33:02.920
<v Speaker 3>the time I came along. Listen, eve Insla, who wrote

0:33:02.920 --> 0:33:07.520
<v Speaker 3>the Vagina Monologues. She went all around the world. She

0:33:07.680 --> 0:33:10.960
<v Speaker 3>went to Africa with the women that were having the

0:33:11.400 --> 0:33:15.080
<v Speaker 3>the cl clitteristism. If it's clitterists, I don't know if

0:33:15.080 --> 0:33:20.120
<v Speaker 3>it's plural. I only have one, all right.

0:33:20.920 --> 0:33:21.800
<v Speaker 1>I used to have.

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<v Speaker 3>Three, but I think I'm out. Remember one of those

0:33:29.000 --> 0:33:35.520
<v Speaker 3>first one stars, that bitch tattoo when we just hacks it.

0:33:35.920 --> 0:33:40.240
<v Speaker 1>God damn, I have to wait.

0:33:40.520 --> 0:33:47.120
<v Speaker 3>That bitchaed to glitter and she has something like that,

0:33:47.440 --> 0:33:49.760
<v Speaker 3>something like that. It was funny, but it let me

0:33:49.800 --> 0:33:55.560
<v Speaker 3>get back to the let me get back to serious ship. Listen,

0:33:57.400 --> 0:34:01.520
<v Speaker 3>all I can say that I did not go three clitterists. Honey,

0:34:02.960 --> 0:34:05.480
<v Speaker 3>I did too. I need to find somebody to tell

0:34:05.480 --> 0:34:09.680
<v Speaker 3>me whether clitorist it's clitterissist, says sis. Come on, Jennifer,

0:34:09.760 --> 0:34:10.480
<v Speaker 3>if you don't.

0:34:14.120 --> 0:34:15.360
<v Speaker 1>Glitteriz, I have no idea.

0:34:19.480 --> 0:34:21.360
<v Speaker 3>You know, I'll come out of the bag with anything.

0:34:21.440 --> 0:34:25.080
<v Speaker 3>I don't multiple clitterists. Thank you? Did you look it up?

0:34:25.640 --> 0:34:25.680
<v Speaker 1>No?

0:34:28.200 --> 0:34:30.200
<v Speaker 3>I would. I was in uh. When I was in

0:34:30.280 --> 0:34:34.960
<v Speaker 3>the sea, gaddy uh. Two little baby rhinoceroses thought I

0:34:35.080 --> 0:34:37.960
<v Speaker 3>had some food, so they came over to me and

0:34:38.080 --> 0:34:40.560
<v Speaker 3>they just gone like this, just a don't get don't

0:34:40.600 --> 0:34:43.520
<v Speaker 3>get done. And they when they saw I have no food,

0:34:43.600 --> 0:34:46.080
<v Speaker 3>they kind of don't don't get, don't away from me.

0:34:46.360 --> 0:34:51.279
<v Speaker 3>And I started screaming, I never heard of Jenny Craig,

0:34:54.680 --> 0:34:58.320
<v Speaker 3>got no food for you. I'll cuts out a rhinoceros

0:34:58.400 --> 0:35:00.480
<v Speaker 3>bitch you hear me? And then I had to look

0:35:00.600 --> 0:35:06.719
<v Speaker 3>up whether it was not rhinocerih because most of my friends, wait, man,

0:35:06.960 --> 0:35:12.439
<v Speaker 3>because mine listen. Because most of my friends are major intellectuals.

0:35:12.480 --> 0:35:16.000
<v Speaker 3>I keep smart people around me. Honey, listen, I can

0:35:16.120 --> 0:35:18.520
<v Speaker 3>feel enough for everybody. You just tell me what the ship,

0:35:18.680 --> 0:35:22.680
<v Speaker 3>what's going on? But here? But if I listen, if

0:35:22.760 --> 0:35:26.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm a stand in the serengetti and cuffs out two

0:35:27.200 --> 0:35:31.400
<v Speaker 3>baby rhinoceroses, what do you think I'm gonna do with

0:35:31.480 --> 0:35:33.719
<v Speaker 3>the story of the clitterists? Get the fuck out it,

0:35:33.840 --> 0:35:40.600
<v Speaker 3>Let's go what's that who cosses out? But what you

0:35:40.719 --> 0:35:43.440
<v Speaker 3>need to know is, Jennifer Lord will go anywhere. I

0:35:43.480 --> 0:35:46.320
<v Speaker 3>ain't no shame in my game, baby, I'll do anything

0:35:46.360 --> 0:35:47.200
<v Speaker 3>to make people laugh.

0:35:47.920 --> 0:35:52.319
<v Speaker 1>Is because I'm also interested in your need to see

0:35:52.400 --> 0:35:52.759
<v Speaker 1>the world.

0:35:52.880 --> 0:35:56.919
<v Speaker 2>Now, I would have liked to have thought that I'm

0:35:58.200 --> 0:36:02.480
<v Speaker 2>you know that I've I'm well traveled at least in

0:36:02.560 --> 0:36:04.640
<v Speaker 2>my thirty years of touring the world and whatnot.

0:36:04.760 --> 0:36:07.600
<v Speaker 4>But you've seen the airport at the hotel in the video.

0:36:07.640 --> 0:36:10.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was going to say that I still and

0:36:10.960 --> 0:36:13.200
<v Speaker 2>I know I've done things that are special whatnot. Like

0:36:13.280 --> 0:36:17.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm you know again, post pandemic. I am living

0:36:17.400 --> 0:36:20.719
<v Speaker 2>life like I mean not to the five minute rule.

0:36:20.800 --> 0:36:22.480
<v Speaker 2>Once you said that, and I was like, oh shit,

0:36:22.520 --> 0:36:26.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm not doing shit with my life for you. How

0:36:26.160 --> 0:36:30.640
<v Speaker 2>did you even organize or make a bucket list of

0:36:30.719 --> 0:36:34.680
<v Speaker 2>the things that you wanted to do before you leave

0:36:34.760 --> 0:36:36.319
<v Speaker 2>this plane called Earth?

0:36:36.680 --> 0:36:42.040
<v Speaker 3>There was no bucket list. There was purpose See, when

0:36:42.120 --> 0:36:46.759
<v Speaker 3>I travel, I go into the trenches, I tell my

0:36:47.000 --> 0:36:51.800
<v Speaker 3>private guy to take me wherever they're not going. I

0:36:51.920 --> 0:36:54.480
<v Speaker 3>want to talk to the people. When I was just

0:36:54.640 --> 0:36:58.160
<v Speaker 3>in India, there were four people serving me one night.

0:36:58.520 --> 0:37:02.000
<v Speaker 3>They had on their little bu for chef hats, the

0:37:02.160 --> 0:37:06.200
<v Speaker 3>white chef hats and the white mask. And I said

0:37:06.239 --> 0:37:08.719
<v Speaker 3>to them, because I had come through the poverty of

0:37:09.040 --> 0:37:14.000
<v Speaker 3>Agra India, and I'd heard the stories of the untouchables

0:37:15.200 --> 0:37:16.280
<v Speaker 3>and the cast system.

0:37:17.719 --> 0:37:18.560
<v Speaker 1>So I went over to.

0:37:18.680 --> 0:37:24.040
<v Speaker 3>Those four people that were cooking, and I told them

0:37:24.120 --> 0:37:27.040
<v Speaker 3>that I had I came from that kind of poverty.

0:37:27.880 --> 0:37:29.960
<v Speaker 3>And I looked at them, I said, you do know

0:37:31.200 --> 0:37:35.000
<v Speaker 3>that you must rise up? Do you understand what I'm saying.

0:37:35.080 --> 0:37:38.279
<v Speaker 3>I got a little nods from them, and then I said,

0:37:38.360 --> 0:37:42.719
<v Speaker 3>one of you is Gandhi. And I walked away with

0:37:42.840 --> 0:37:47.440
<v Speaker 3>my plate of falafel, and Purposey went back to them

0:37:47.600 --> 0:37:53.839
<v Speaker 3>dramatically pointed to the girl and said, it's you. I said,

0:37:53.880 --> 0:37:58.879
<v Speaker 3>And if it's not you, young lady, you better got down.

0:37:59.080 --> 0:38:03.520
<v Speaker 3>Make sure you're daughter. And she sneaked over to me

0:38:04.000 --> 0:38:07.879
<v Speaker 3>at my table. She took her chef off, she took

0:38:07.960 --> 0:38:11.160
<v Speaker 3>her mask off, and came over to me like she

0:38:11.360 --> 0:38:14.560
<v Speaker 3>had been invited to that party, which you know, was

0:38:14.640 --> 0:38:19.640
<v Speaker 3>against the rules of the hotel. She stood over me

0:38:19.719 --> 0:38:24.239
<v Speaker 3>and she said, m I don't know your name, but

0:38:24.320 --> 0:38:27.920
<v Speaker 3>I want to thank you. I will rise up, miss Lewis,

0:38:28.960 --> 0:38:31.000
<v Speaker 3>because when she said that, I said, my name is

0:38:31.040 --> 0:38:35.520
<v Speaker 3>miss Lewis. Oh, come on down, Jesus. You see, I'll

0:38:35.560 --> 0:38:39.120
<v Speaker 3>call Jesus when it's because my mama called Jesus when

0:38:39.200 --> 0:38:45.160
<v Speaker 3>things were good, you understand. So I go into the trenches.

0:38:46.280 --> 0:38:50.640
<v Speaker 3>There's a video going around of me talking about voting

0:38:52.000 --> 0:38:55.560
<v Speaker 3>at Hollywood and Vine after I got my star. I

0:38:55.600 --> 0:38:58.239
<v Speaker 3>didn't know I was being filmed. I was signing autographs.

0:38:58.920 --> 0:39:01.040
<v Speaker 3>But when I get a bunch of kids in front

0:39:01.080 --> 0:39:04.200
<v Speaker 3>of me, I'm gonna use that time. Whether I'm in

0:39:04.320 --> 0:39:12.040
<v Speaker 3>India or Hollywood or Cambodia, show me whether people are suffering,

0:39:13.440 --> 0:39:16.000
<v Speaker 3>bring them to me. Like oh, okay. So I'm in

0:39:16.160 --> 0:39:20.360
<v Speaker 3>Argentina and I tell my driver to take me to

0:39:20.520 --> 0:39:25.440
<v Speaker 3>the real people. He said, oh, miss Lewis, it's dangerous

0:39:25.520 --> 0:39:28.120
<v Speaker 3>in there. I said, I don't care. Take me in.

0:39:28.280 --> 0:39:31.440
<v Speaker 3>I got out of that car. All these kind of

0:39:31.560 --> 0:39:35.160
<v Speaker 3>people were standing on the corner and everything. They looked

0:39:35.200 --> 0:39:38.319
<v Speaker 3>over at me getting out of that suv at Mercedes.

0:39:40.120 --> 0:39:44.000
<v Speaker 3>But they saw the color of my skin, oh oh yeah.

0:39:44.400 --> 0:39:48.080
<v Speaker 3>And some of them came over and I said to them,

0:39:49.239 --> 0:39:51.520
<v Speaker 3>oh honey, I'll use that celebrity. I say, y'all know

0:39:51.600 --> 0:39:55.799
<v Speaker 3>who I am. I said, you watch television. I said,

0:39:55.840 --> 0:39:58.920
<v Speaker 3>you know, to show Fresh Prince. And that's when everybody

0:39:59.000 --> 0:40:02.919
<v Speaker 3>wakes up because that shit is global, right, that show

0:40:03.239 --> 0:40:06.719
<v Speaker 3>ate just national and international. That ship's global. I was

0:40:06.760 --> 0:40:08.520
<v Speaker 3>in a three hundred I was in a three hundred

0:40:08.560 --> 0:40:12.120
<v Speaker 3>and fifty year old glacier in Iceland, and a bitch

0:40:12.239 --> 0:40:15.960
<v Speaker 3>came up and said some shit about Fresh real like

0:40:16.520 --> 0:40:19.200
<v Speaker 3>I I got that. Yeah, I'm like, god, damn girl,

0:40:19.400 --> 0:40:22.440
<v Speaker 3>where in a glacier, Get the fuck out of what?

0:40:22.640 --> 0:40:25.400
<v Speaker 3>I come down? Fuck who I am? That's get the

0:40:25.480 --> 0:40:29.360
<v Speaker 3>fuck out. I come down and keep the fucking boys

0:40:29.440 --> 0:40:32.280
<v Speaker 3>down before you're carving the avalanche telling.

0:40:32.120 --> 0:40:33.279
<v Speaker 5>Her to keep her voice down.

0:40:33.360 --> 0:40:34.240
<v Speaker 3>That that's funny.

0:40:34.880 --> 0:40:36.279
<v Speaker 4>I think that's actually our clip.

0:40:37.080 --> 0:40:41.160
<v Speaker 3>Wait a minute, this was after I This was after

0:40:41.239 --> 0:40:44.600
<v Speaker 3>I sang amazing Grason the wedding chapel that they had

0:40:44.719 --> 0:40:48.480
<v Speaker 3>carved off in the ice. Oh I bet it's on YouTube.

0:40:48.560 --> 0:40:51.600
<v Speaker 3>You can actually hear that that performance is on YouTube.

0:40:52.040 --> 0:40:56.279
<v Speaker 3>I sang amazing whatever y'all the uh the guy said,

0:40:56.440 --> 0:41:01.000
<v Speaker 3>does anyone sing ah? What you say? Men? And my

0:41:01.080 --> 0:41:03.479
<v Speaker 3>friend went, bitch, you ain't said nothing but the word.

0:41:03.719 --> 0:41:07.520
<v Speaker 3>We went up. I went up to an ice podium

0:41:07.920 --> 0:41:12.279
<v Speaker 3>and blasted that shit out. And I haven't released it yet,

0:41:12.760 --> 0:41:18.360
<v Speaker 3>but I sang amazing Grace in the an caught tom

0:41:18.760 --> 0:41:22.000
<v Speaker 3>in Cambodi, one of the great old ancient temple.

0:41:22.080 --> 0:41:22.279
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

0:41:22.760 --> 0:41:27.560
<v Speaker 3>And then I sang it in the Valley of Petra.

0:41:28.719 --> 0:41:31.880
<v Speaker 3>I always get out and do a little something and

0:41:32.040 --> 0:41:36.160
<v Speaker 3>leave my singing voice in those canyons and in those

0:41:36.280 --> 0:41:38.799
<v Speaker 3>mountain range. But I will tell you this, I didn't

0:41:38.800 --> 0:41:40.920
<v Speaker 3>sing amazing Grace up in the Himalayans. I got the

0:41:41.000 --> 0:41:43.560
<v Speaker 3>fuck out of that before my lungs burst at eleven

0:41:43.600 --> 0:41:48.360
<v Speaker 3>thousand feet. You can believe that fuck amazing Grace. I

0:41:48.560 --> 0:41:49.440
<v Speaker 3>the fuck out of there.

0:41:49.760 --> 0:41:51.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't think we've ever had an episode.

0:41:52.239 --> 0:41:54.919
<v Speaker 2>We're forty five minutes into this episode and I'm thinking

0:41:54.960 --> 0:41:57.480
<v Speaker 2>to myself, I don't even I don't even want to

0:41:57.560 --> 0:42:01.480
<v Speaker 2>talk about the creative side of Jennifer Lewis, Like this

0:42:01.600 --> 0:42:05.479
<v Speaker 2>show is more about like the creative like but listen

0:42:05.520 --> 0:42:05.719
<v Speaker 2>to this.

0:42:07.400 --> 0:42:11.000
<v Speaker 1>I just love.

0:42:12.719 --> 0:42:13.480
<v Speaker 2>I just.

0:42:15.120 --> 0:42:16.239
<v Speaker 5>A just.

0:42:21.200 --> 0:42:25.640
<v Speaker 1>I just love Quest, I love.

0:42:27.080 --> 0:42:27.279
<v Speaker 3>Ques.

0:42:28.760 --> 0:42:29.920
<v Speaker 1>I keep my own song, I.

0:42:33.360 --> 0:42:35.760
<v Speaker 3>Just love Quest.

0:42:37.040 --> 0:42:39.160
<v Speaker 5>Is that like just just Himmler? Is that what I mean?

0:42:39.600 --> 0:42:44.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'll share Quarante ain't like you.

0:42:46.640 --> 0:42:52.120
<v Speaker 3>Thinks everyone is love.

0:42:53.520 --> 0:42:54.320
<v Speaker 1>I shall keep that.

0:42:56.120 --> 0:42:59.480
<v Speaker 2>All right, ladies and gentlemen, we're pausing it there for now.

0:43:00.080 --> 0:43:04.840
<v Speaker 2>After that serenade, I needed a minute. So Jennifer lewis,

0:43:05.480 --> 0:43:08.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, lively, real and raw as anyone has ever

0:43:08.600 --> 0:43:09.840
<v Speaker 2>been on Quest Love Supreme.

0:43:10.600 --> 0:43:12.320
<v Speaker 1>And I think she may have cussed.

0:43:12.120 --> 0:43:16.279
<v Speaker 2>More than any guests, including Deesus and Merrill. All Right,

0:43:16.360 --> 0:43:18.160
<v Speaker 2>you heard me say it in the episode, but you

0:43:18.280 --> 0:43:18.640
<v Speaker 2>see why.

0:43:18.680 --> 0:43:21.440
<v Speaker 6>I called it one of the best QLs conversations ever.

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<v Speaker 6>So we expect you back next week for part two,

0:43:24.800 --> 0:43:27.560
<v Speaker 6>and make sure you pre order Jennifer's second book, Walking

0:43:27.960 --> 0:43:31.399
<v Speaker 6>and My Joy in These Streets. And uh, I believe

0:43:31.440 --> 0:43:32.520
<v Speaker 6>that's August thirtieth.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like this combo. All right, see y'all next week.

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<v Speaker 1>West Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. For more

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