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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season seventy two, Episode

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Speaker 1: two of jo Daily Light Guys, the podcast where we

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Speaker 1: take a deep dive into America, nay, the world's share consciousness.

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Speaker 1: It's Tuesday, March five, two thousand nineteen. My name is

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Speaker 1: Jack O'Brien. A K. What you know about Jack? What

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Speaker 1: you know about Jack? What you know about Jack? Hey?

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Speaker 1: Don't you know why I got d to the Z

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Speaker 1: where I'm holding all the takes a courtesy of Christie.

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Speaker 1: I'm a Gucci man at Crispy Meme Donut and I'm

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Speaker 1: thrilled to be joined as always by my co host,

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Speaker 1: Mr Miles grag So. Hi, Hi, h Greg, you so

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Speaker 1: Oh wow wow, I you know, I was thinking of

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Speaker 1: all about tal Bachmann and I wonder what happened to him.

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Speaker 1: I think he should be okay. But thank you too,

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Speaker 1: Saltas Hannah for reminding me of that masterpiece by tal Bachman.

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Speaker 1: I didn't really know the name. I thought it was

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Speaker 1: So High. So just to let the artist's name is

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Speaker 1: tal Bachman's tal Bachman. Tal Bachman. He's a and he's

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Speaker 1: actually he's only five through. Oh yeah, it's kind of

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Speaker 1: a weird name. That is a weird name, and he

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Speaker 1: loves he's more of a Mozart guy too. Oh nice,

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Speaker 1: said like Morzart guy when retired from writing music because

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Speaker 1: he wanted to go into composing classical music because he

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Speaker 1: what he did, said for a while, and he just

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Speaker 1: went back to my man, he's doing live shows drunk.

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Speaker 1: Uh well, we are thrilled to be joint dinner. Third

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Speaker 1: scene by one of the great On This Teer podcast,

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Speaker 1: she co hosted the backdel Cast and her name anagrams

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Speaker 1: so excited. What film degree? Whoa baby? Don't infantalize toxic

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Speaker 1: This is one of my own. Uh. It is Caitlin

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Speaker 1: Dronte anagrams too. It's anal nut cider, anal nuts cider. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So if you're like, hey man drinking it ain't nuts.

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Speaker 1: It ain't nutsider. Hell yeah, shout out there, you go.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to the South for making that statement. Makes sense.

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Speaker 1: It me, it ain't whatever you want. Caitlin. How you doing,

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Speaker 1: I'm doing very well things. I'm so excited for our

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Speaker 1: live show together, yes Saturday. Do you think people are ready?

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Speaker 1: I think they are not ready. And also, Jamie promised

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Speaker 1: me again that she would watch the Matrix. And you

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Speaker 1: think she'll make good on that promise? Absolutely not really.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I'm still holding out because I take

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Speaker 1: her to be a person of her works. So I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna say that she will watch it and not embarrass

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Speaker 1: us all on stage when we talk about the Matrix,

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Speaker 1: I am, well, we'll see. I I don't think she will.

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Speaker 1: I think that she has made it part of her

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Speaker 1: you know, which is so weird because her brand is

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Speaker 1: honestly too. She would just straight up to him like

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna watch it. She's like, no, don't worry,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch it. Maybe you can close me. We'll see. Well,

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Speaker 1: we'll find out this Saturday. This Saturday, marsh Night at

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Speaker 1: the Dynasty Typewriter Theater. Get your tickets now. We only

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Speaker 1: got a couple left, and it's going to be a party.

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Speaker 1: They are going fast. There are some left. We're talking

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Speaker 1: about the year and I do live shows. We do

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Speaker 1: a Zeitgeist, do the Zeitgeist for not a day, an

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Speaker 1: entire year. And we're going to be joined by the

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Speaker 1: Bechdel cast crew, and they're gonna walk us through the matrix.

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Speaker 1: Yes many things, Yes, and I will and I might

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Speaker 1: hand out forty ounces to people. I don't know why

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Speaker 1: is that just was that a beverage that you particularly partner?

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Speaker 1: I just think that's what kids like, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I could be out of touch. Kids were drinking like

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Speaker 1: that was a disturbing fusion drink that they bottled. All right, Kitlin,

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Speaker 1: we're going to get to know you a little bit

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Speaker 1: better in a moment. First, we're gonna tell our listeners

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Speaker 1: just a couple of things we're talking about today. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about the number one movie and the world,

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Speaker 1: sixty six million dollars. We're gonna talk about Taco Bell

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Speaker 1: Without the contract, we're gonna say R I P. To

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Speaker 1: take a deep dive into sepack over the weekend, see

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Speaker 1: what sort of material we were given by the Coachella

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Speaker 1: Jackson documentary. But first, Caitlin, we like to ask our guest,

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Speaker 1: what is something from your search history that's realing about

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Speaker 1: who you are? Well? I was recently searching and reading

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Speaker 1: up on something called Black Girl's Code, which the reason

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Speaker 1: a fundraising campaign to support them. UM, so you know

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Speaker 1: And what Black Girls Code is is an organization that

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Speaker 1: Girls of color like tools and resources to learn how

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Speaker 1: like that real money. Gosh, tell me about it. Who is?

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Speaker 1: Who was? Was Chris Boss getting into coding or something?

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Speaker 1: Who was Neo from the Matrix. He's one of the

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Speaker 1: great coders. Yeah, you know, Neo Backwards is the one.

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Speaker 1: What's something you think is underrated? I thought you were

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Speaker 1: She hacks bro way different. You don't need to know

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Speaker 1: I think I think it's like she just gets in

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Speaker 1: What is something you think is underrated? Pen fifteen? It's

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Speaker 1: you so much. It needs to be seen by more people. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I can't, I can't. I'm the biggest stand. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: you're like an older brother. Yeah, I guess not, I

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Speaker 1: just hey by the name Hey, hey you. What is

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Speaker 1: something you think is overrated Russian Doll? I was, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: people are just ranting and about this show, and I

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Speaker 1: I'm a big Groundhog Day fan. You know, I've seen

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Speaker 1: Is that? Because I think I know what Russian Doll

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Speaker 1: is like. It's she keeps living the same like night

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Speaker 1: the first one had like a got a connection to

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Speaker 1: So the thing you have to understand, Miles is that

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Speaker 1: time is a construction time for Jack splaining. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't totally now that you mentioned, I don't totally

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Speaker 1: I just like if he owns it, he's like here

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Speaker 1: we go again, like like die Hard to where he

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Speaker 1: specifically utters the line, how can the same fucking thing

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Speaker 1: the same guy the same day? Like it also is Christmas.

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Speaker 1: It's just like, yeah, that's a good points disarm your

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Speaker 1: reality is that this is probably unbelievable. But you know what,

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Speaker 1: was me that was doing this. Uh somehow, what is

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Speaker 1: a myth? What something people think is true you know

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Speaker 1: to be false? Well, contrary to popular belief, Captain Marvel

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Speaker 1: radioactive captain still work. I'm sorry that I never come

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Speaker 1: a great joke construction that I always enjoy. So what

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Speaker 1: is Captain Marvel about? Then? I don't know. I've seen

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422
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 1: a Also, the sweat building on his upper lip either

423
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 1: looked like it was hot and he just had condensation

424
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 1: above his other upper lip or he's been storing a

425
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,040
Speaker 1: bunch of outer wall and the snot was coming on.

426
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,880
Speaker 1: He couldn't wipe it away. I don't know, and I'm

427
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 1: not going to speculate, because I believe the President is

428
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 1: an upstanding man who would never do anything like that. Um.

429
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 1: But yes, the whole weekend we played to various clips

430
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 1: like it seems like this like Sepack was sort of

431
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: a good breather for conservatives to try and like at

432
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 1: least scare the ship out of people, you know, like

433
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 1: get their base because there there really wasn't any functional

434
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 1: talk of any policies that made sense that would help people.

435
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 1: So it was all like, oh, AOC is gonna fucking

436
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:32,160
Speaker 1: take your cow or who was the cow thing? It's

437
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 1: everyone Green New Deals. They're gonna cut down on cows

438
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 1: or cut down on cows, but a right, and the

439
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 1: thing is the Green New Deal is not like a

440
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,640
Speaker 1: set of like actual laws or whatever. It's just sort

441
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 1: of saying like, here's a roadmap to how we acknowledge this,

442
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 1: and nothing in there is like that specific where they're

443
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 1: like and take the cows. But again, I think they

444
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 1: always have to frame everything that is being done on

445
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 1: the left as some of them taking something from you,

446
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 1: and this time they didn't have real things like rights

447
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 1: or privacy, so they said it was going to take

448
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 1: your hamburgers and your trucks and your cows. And I

449
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 1: think I guess people cheered for that. Um. Another really

450
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: interesting moment was when a Fox News contributor, Sarah Carter

451
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 1: got up on stage and warned people again wanted to

452
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 1: scare the ship out of people with her tales of

453
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 1: a of a party that's taking teens across this country

454
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 1: by storm. Our kids are having parties and they call

455
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,159
Speaker 1: them Skittles parties where they bring pills and put them

456
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,120
Speaker 1: into bowls and everybody just kind of picks whatever pill

457
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 1: they want and they take them. I mean, it's kind

458
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 1: of a shocking thing when I heard about this, just

459
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:44,199
Speaker 1: randomly taking pills and and some of these children, unbeknownst

460
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: to them, are taking as annex that's actually a contrabands annex. Uh,

461
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 1: and they're dying immediately. There is no chance to save

462
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: their life. They don't make it to the hospital. It

463
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: was one mistake one time, and their lives are lost

464
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: of a couple of things. What is a contraband zanex? Yes,

465
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: it sound most powerful xanex that is designed to kill

466
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 1: all who take it and not just hey, maybe parents

467
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,479
Speaker 1: secure your fucking benzo diazepeine so your kids don't get

468
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 1: into them. And then also like the idea of this

469
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,239
Speaker 1: party right that like teenagers want to be like, hey,

470
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: throw a bunch of random shin in the bull. You

471
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 1: might take a moxicillin or you might take fetin. We

472
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 1: don't know, but it's gonna be fun. That's how you

473
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 1: have a fun party as half of the people are

474
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 1: in allergy meds at the right time. I as a

475
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 1: teenager who experimented with prescription pills, I for one know

476
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: you just take them ships because you're trying, you're experimenting.

477
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 1: You don't need the fun. It's just like this weird

478
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: gamification of it, like they're trying to make it easier

479
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: for people to believe, like, yeah, that's how a teen

480
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 1: would take a drug for the first time. Not because

481
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: there's like rainbow parties, which was the thing that went

482
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 1: out on the airwaves on Oprah that different girls with

483
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 1: different colored lipstick, we're giving guys blow jobs, and they

484
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: were they would call them rainbow parties because there would

485
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 1: be a rainbow left on the Dude's Dick, which talked

486
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: about that. Yeah, oh my, I just remember hearing about

487
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: like in high school people like, yeah, I do fucking

488
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: rainbow parties, And I'm like, you've been to one? You

489
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: know about one? Because I certainly I have not been.

490
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: I've never heard of this until just now at lunch.

491
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: Well there's also the fact that from a color perspective,

492
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: it would just be a complete mess. But I mean,

493
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you just have to like place your

494
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 1: lips on the day and then right and just put

495
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 1: a stamp at different lengths. Yes, both of these parties

496
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 1: that were dreamed up by conservatives and local news outlets

497
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: are complete bullshit. But yeah, yeah, it's not like it's

498
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: that dangerous to get people interested in the opioid crisis.

499
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: But it does. Like this is the same thing as

500
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 1: the War on drugs when I was growing up, where

501
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: they completely undercut the seriousness of the drugs by you know,

502
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: making up shit about it so that you're like, oh, well,

503
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 1: everybody's fucking lying about this, Like we're not doing that.

504
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 1: So like it's just, yeah, it's good for getting suburban

505
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: moms up in arms, and it's probably bullshit, and it's

506
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 1: probably counterproductive, right, Like how many teens have access to

507
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: so many pills? They like, they'll fill a whole bulls right.

508
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 1: I knew a couple. Yeah, they all lived on the

509
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 1: West Side though, and where they had like hack doctors

510
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: that would be like, oh, you're sixteen and you need

511
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 1: his an ex prescription and then they come through with

512
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 1: the wild Morocca that's what we call a full pill bottle,

513
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: and then um and then they would mix that with promix.

514
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: Some people would be taking hair loss medica exactly, or

515
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 1: your purple pill. Right, they're like, oh, this one looks

516
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 1: sucked up, but yeah, it's it's it's again. It was

517
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: just a weird, whole fearmongering fest. So then by the

518
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: time Trump took the stage at the end, I mean like, look,

519
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 1: we've seen him have a bad week and then top

520
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: a bad week with a terrible public speech, but this

521
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: was like he hit all kinds of things. For example,

522
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: you again, you could tell that pressure was getting to

523
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: him because he's doing stuff like just really lame defenses

524
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 1: of his actions. So here's his defense of like, oh,

525
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 1: I was just kidding about Russia. If you tell a joke,

526
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: if you're sarcastic, if you're having fun with the audience,

527
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: if you're in live television with millions of people, and

528
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: if you say something like Russia, please, if you can

529
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: get us Hillary Clinton's emails, please ruts up? Please? Is

530
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: that please get usmail? That's his impression with himself. Then,

531
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 1: so everybody's having a good time. I'm laughing. We're all

532
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: have been fun. And then that fake CNN and others

533
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: say he asked Russia. His voice work is terrible. Like

534
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 1: two weeks ago, I'm watching and they're talking about one

535
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: of the punts he asked Russia for the emails. These

536
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: people are sick. And I'm telling you they know the game.

537
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: They know the game, and they play it dirty, dirtier

538
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: than anybody's ever played the game, dirtier than me. His

539
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: accent work is good. Yeah, he is this Michael Winslow.

540
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: I don't know he had the voice box from this

541
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: guy for how to Train Your Dragon Fully. Actually, speaking

542
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: of voice work, he also does a killer Southerner voice

543
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 1: as well. Ry General says, I'm going to recuse myself.

544
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 1: I said, I'm like again, cuse moll. There was pulling

545
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: that said some of the like Southern supporters don't really

546
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 1: like that, Like it's like even though there they will

547
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: support him, It's like one of the few things is

548
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: like I just the what's with all the dumb Southerner

549
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: stuff that he does about Jeff Sessions. I mean either way,

550
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: he is very, very panicked at the moment. I think

551
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: just with just the del use of like oversight, like

552
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: the shadow of oversight just becomes larger and larger. Uh

553
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: So he's feeling himself more than panicked. Like well, I

554
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: just mean like with the kind of stuff though, So Okay,

555
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: this is a perfect example when talking about the legal

556
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: jeopardy he's in his explanation is really like on some

557
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: dictator autocrat ship. I was kidding, we had the greatest

558
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: of all time. Now we have people that lost, and

559
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: unfortunately you put the wrong people in a couple of

560
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: positions and they leave people for a long time that

561
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: shouldn't be there, and all of a sudden they're trying

562
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: to take you out with bullshit. Okay, bullshit, take you

563
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: out with the bullshit. He says that the special counsels, Yeah,

564
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: like the things that they're when they're pointing to the

565
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: actions of the people around him and what these could

566
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 1: be like signifying larger crime. He's like, it's bullshit. Oh

567
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 1: that I may be engaged foreign adversary to help sway

568
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: an election. Oh that's such Come on, that's little ship, guys.

569
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 1: And this one on for two and a half. Yea,

570
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 1: At what point did he hug the flag? I think

571
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: that's how he I think started or ended it got

572
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 1: to go big front at the end, a big closer,

573
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 1: a big opener. Yeah, you got a big flag hug.

574
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: I think he did it at the beginning. I think

575
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 1: he came out and hugged it and gave it a

576
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 1: such a nice little hug and then rocked with it,

577
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah. I mean that's how you show you

578
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: love America. Just hugged the flag and then be like, dude,

579
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: I was just j K l O L with Russia.

580
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: Come on now, yeah yeah, um, that's all a joke. Yeah,

581
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 1: So good luck with that. I hope you know now

582
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: that like Jerry Nadler and the Judiciary Committee are like

583
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 1: about to drop the hammer on you. You're ready for that, right,

584
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: And none of this is going to change anything. They

585
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: could have him on tape murdering somebody, and the real

586
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: thing that his supporters are invested in is that liberals

587
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: not get power because liberals are gonna kill their kids.

588
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: Be like, I was just joking when I killed that person, right,

589
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 1: let's just making a goof. Was a goof. Yeah, But

590
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: so we'll see. Speaking of two and a half terrifying hours,

591
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: the Michael Jackson documentary premiered on HBO on Sunday night,

592
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:57,919
Speaker 1: and then the second part of it ran last night,

593
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: and it's a huge fucking bummer. Yeah, it's I mean,

594
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: without getting the specifics are horrifying, so we will spare

595
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 1: you those, but suffice to say he was having intercourse

596
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: with these kids and had many different methods of manipulation

597
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: and it's fucking dark. And we were talking before, like

598
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 1: I'm still in the process of having a reckoning over

599
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: this with all of this, because Michael Jackson was sort

600
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: of like one of the people in the cancel que.

601
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,919
Speaker 1: I think subconsciously, I was putting into the back where

602
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: it was easy to try and overlook the things we

603
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 1: had heard over the years. But now when you you know,

604
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: in this this documentary is really more about giving these

605
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: victims a voice about their experience. Um and yeah, one

606
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 1: of them, one of them, says during the documentary that

607
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 1: he wants to speak his truth at least as loud

608
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: as he was forced to tell the lie for all

609
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: the years because he testified on behalf on the defense's

610
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 1: side during the Michael Jackson child molestation trials in the

611
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: in the nineties, because I think early two thousands to

612
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: right two thousand five was the last time. Yeah. So

613
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: I mean there is the picture you get other than

614
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 1: like the really just horrifying, upsetting details, is that Michael Jackson,

615
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 1: like many serial predators, had sort of woven this whole

616
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 1: elaborate system where you know, he had these kids families

617
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: that were financially dependent on him. Like he had one

618
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,240
Speaker 1: of the kids, he gave one of the kids parents

619
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: a low interest loan for their house, and so like,

620
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 1: not only is he telling the kid, well, if you

621
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: tell anybody, will both go to jail, but yeah, you'll

622
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 1: lose your house. Your family is like depending on me.

623
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: And he was like giving his family all these cool

624
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: trips ups and stuff. Um. So yeah, it was just

625
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: an elaborate way of just you know, bending the world

626
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: to his fucked up desires and you know, ruined a

627
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: lot of people's lives in the process. Um. And yeah,

628
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 1: I mean there's just some of the details that make

629
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 1: it sort of impossible for me to look past this. Uh.

630
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:26,240
Speaker 1: The kid describes like all the fourteen spots around Neverland

631
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,280
Speaker 1: Ranch where he and Michael Jackson could have sex because

632
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: of the locks and alerts and noises, and he had

633
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: like a wedding ceremony with one of the kids, and

634
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 1: it was just all all very fucked up. And these

635
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 1: kids were abused from the time they were seven to

636
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: the time they were fourteen, and then he would just

637
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: switch him out for you know, somebody who was in

638
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 1: his preferred age bracket. God. Um. Yeah, So I mean

639
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: I won't be playing his music anymore for my kids. Uh.

640
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: His his music has had a bit of a reserve

641
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 1: gents in the past couple of years in my life

642
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:07,399
Speaker 1: because my son loves his music. And it's just two

643
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: problematic of a line to walk for me. Um. One

644
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 1: of the kids was an enormous Michael Jackson fan, to

645
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: the point that he could do all his dance moves

646
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 1: and that's how he got brought to Jackson's attention. He

647
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: wanted to dance contest and that was that was it. Um. Yeah,

648
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: it's one of again, like the music is, it's it's

649
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: different than like a lot of the other people who

650
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: have been like brought out for you know, their crimes

651
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: have come to light. And I think with R. Kelly,

652
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: it's easy to look at R. Kelly and be like, yeah,

653
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: like I can, But personally it was easy for me

654
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 1: to just be like, Okay, this motherfucker's like he's gone,

655
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 1: or Woody all H'm like whatever, I don't need to

656
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: funk with this guy, or you know, Harvey what, like

657
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,720
Speaker 1: those are things I don't the The effect of Michael

658
00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: Jackson's music on my life is something that, like you have,

659
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 1: I have a visceral response to hearing the music, like

660
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 1: it feels good. It reminds me of like just of

661
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: happiness of when I was a child, to even Michael

662
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 1: Jackson as a the most famous black body in on earth,

663
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: uh and has like this place in culture that is

664
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: so elevated, right that many people are unable or we're

665
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: not willing to look at what may have been going

666
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 1: on this whole time because I think of this significance

667
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:33,439
Speaker 1: culturally and it's a it's just it's I'm like still

668
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: in the process of trying to be like this is

669
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 1: so fucked up and how do I reconcile being a

670
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: fan of the music acknowledging the destruction that he's left

671
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: behind with these families. Uh. And it's just one of

672
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: those things, like you know, a lot of people. I

673
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 1: can see the cognitive dissonance already on Twitter of people

674
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,879
Speaker 1: like there are more people trying to defend him still

675
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: than even giving a second to acknowledge what these men

676
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 1: have said in these interviews and try and you know,

677
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: believe that these people are not lying, you know, the

678
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 1: the Jackson family defenses, Oh, you're dragging out a dead

679
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: man and just trying to make profit off of him

680
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 1: again by dragging him through the mud. But we're also

681
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: in a world to where we like we're trying to

682
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: open our eyes to the pain that is experienced by

683
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 1: victims and believing victims. And this is just one of

684
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 1: those moments where, like, you know, the love affair is

685
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: coming to a halt for a lot of people. Uh.

686
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 1: And I think it's it's just it's very interesting to

687
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: me because it's the one I've seen people grapple the

688
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: hardest with, at least to me. I don't know many

689
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: like Woody Allen fans who are like, oh, I don't

690
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: know what to do. But there are many people, I think,

691
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: who are still unwilling to maybe admit that someone who

692
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: has had this profound of an effect on their lives

693
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: with their music could have possibly, you know, been a

694
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,280
Speaker 1: perpetrator of all these crimes and just been a straight

695
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: up predator. Yeah. And there's also a trend at least

696
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:01,439
Speaker 1: with like Michael Jackson with R Kelly, where you've heard

697
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 1: rumors about you know, these allegations for years, Like I remember,

698
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 1: you know, early two thousand's is probably the first time

699
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: I heard about it. You know, there's a South Park

700
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: episode about Michael Jackson, you know, there's and then like

701
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: with the R. Kelly thing, the first thing I had

702
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: heard about was like, oh, he peed on someone, and

703
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 1: I was like, that was the thing. And there's a

704
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: joke on a Chappelle show, right, Yeah, Like everything was

705
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 1: like kind of made light of, Like there were all

706
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: there were jokes, there were rumors, but no one was

707
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 1: really taking anything seriously until, like I mean, with these

708
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: two cases specifically within the past like very short amount

709
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: of time. So it just it makes me wonder, like

710
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: why I made it doesn't make me wonder I know

711
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: why these things happen. Why it takes so long for

712
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 1: like the people to come forward for the news to

713
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: come out. Uh, but it's just it's mind boggling that

714
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: we've we've known about this, or we've at least yeah,

715
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: I heard the rumors and and things like that for years,

716
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 1: and it's I guess only been since post me Too

717
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 1: that yeah, well, it's this space where yeah, people can

718
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: discuss these things. And I think, you know, a lot

719
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: of critics of it are saying, well, it's not a

720
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 1: documentary because it's only these people's testimony and like their

721
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: their stories about their what they experienced and whatever. I mean,

722
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 1: you can take that for what it is. But these

723
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: people are very believable. Their pain is very real. And

724
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: I think one of the reasons why it's been easy

725
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,959
Speaker 1: for people to sort of dismiss those rumors is because

726
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: a lot of the court cases ended up in Michael's favor,

727
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: and that gave people the sort of logical life raft

728
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: to be like, well, the jury didn't think it was

729
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 1: so it probably didn't happen. Versus the jury wasn't convinced

730
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: that they could say, oh, this person is totally guilty.

731
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: And I think that's another I think it's another fallacy

732
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: that people hide behind, especially when they point to like,

733
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: well it was settled and point to that as being

734
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: like innocence, And there were many settlements with Michael Uh.

735
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: And you know it's like if when someone has like money,

736
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 1: power and influence, like yeah, usually like those decisions will

737
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 1: go in their favor because they have like the hush

738
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: money and stuff to shut people up, and you know,

739
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: they have the world renowned fame to like people are

740
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: on their side, and and it just god, it's it

741
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: sucks so bad. This started. It seemed like both of

742
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:30,720
Speaker 1: these relationships. And I think like the really advanced levels

743
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: of predation started after Thriller, which is it's it's just interesting.

744
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 1: He had to get like God on Earth levels of

745
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 1: famous to start doing this. And I think a thing

746
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: that I underestimated before I started, like after the Penn

747
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 1: State coach case, like I started reading up more on

748
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:56,320
Speaker 1: child predators, Yes, Sandusky and Uh, it's deeply and thoroughly

749
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 1: like planned out like that, this is what they use

750
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: a lot of their time and energy and thoughts on.

751
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: Like I think I had always assumed that somebody with

752
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 1: problem like this it would just be like something they

753
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: did like in a fit of passion, but like they

754
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: construct their whole lives and all of these like traps

755
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 1: that are like full proof to keep people from It's

756
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 1: almost like a thing in nature that is like designed

757
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: just to do like one thing that's what they're really

758
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: good at. And I mean it's the same that like

759
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 1: I went to Penn State and Joe Paterno was a

760
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 1: god there, And when the that story broke about Sandusky

761
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: and Joe Paterno was being accused of having helped cover

762
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 1: everything up, Everyone's like no, like he couldn't. He's the

763
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: best in blah blah blah. And it's just like you, guys,

764
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 1: I don't know people just like they you know, they

765
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: have their heroes, they worship them and are not willing

766
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 1: to see all the evils that they do. Well. I

767
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: think that's the problem with celebrity in general, right. We

768
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,320
Speaker 1: elevate these people and put them on these sort of

769
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: these pedestals that are so high that in our minds

770
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 1: they're like infallible, perfect people. Because of the way something

771
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: they do, whether it's their art or whatever, their presence

772
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 1: inspires people and it's like, oh this makes me vibrate

773
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 1: at a certain level. This person must be elevated and

774
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 1: makes people more unwilling to acknowledge the humanity that exists

775
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: in everyone, good or bad. So yeah, you know, definitely,

776
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 1: I'm curious to see sort of in the coming weeks

777
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: as this has more of like a wider release, how

778
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 1: that affects his legacy. But it's interesting when you look

779
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 1: on Twitter, like even the day after, like Michael Jackson

780
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 1: isn't really one of the top trending things as much

781
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 1: as like, you know, Luke Perry is, or like Kate

782
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: beckinsell or so even then, like it's like almost a oh,

783
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 1: she's with Pete Davidson or Pete Yeah, I mean you know,

784
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: you know already know and I don't yeah, and I

785
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: don't want to pivot away is just so flippantly. But

786
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: like I think that's another at least in like l

787
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 1: a right or let me just change. Like globally, it

788
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: seems like people are even having a hard time even

789
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: discussing this out loud, and I think that's just sort

790
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 1: of one of those things. It's one of the few

791
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 1: people whose placed in culture just makes a lot of people,

792
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 1: makes it heart for them to to end the romance.

793
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's sucking they have. This whole situation is

794
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 1: very dark. All Right, we're gonna take a quick break

795
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: and we'll be right back. And we're back. And Jane Mayer,

796
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: who's reporting we've talked about before on this podcast. Jane

797
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:50,320
Speaker 1: New Yorker writer. She dropped a pretty juicy investigative piece

798
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: over the weekend describing all the weird ship going on

799
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 1: between Trump World and Fox News because apparently, and you

800
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 1: wouldn't know this from watching Fox News, but apparently, uh,

801
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 1: they are collaborating huge fans of each other. Uh yeah,

802
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 1: I mean there are many things like you know, there

803
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 1: was Roger Ales warned Rupert Murdoch about Trump. He said, like, yo,

804
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 1: I know you like him and he gets ratings. He's like,

805
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: but eventually this guy will run this network, like he

806
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: warned him right before he left, which was interesting bit

807
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: of information with Roger Ale said, Trump will try and

808
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: run that like eventually, like if you get this close

809
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 1: with him, he's eventually going to begin dictating what this

810
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 1: network does. And look what happened, which is, you know,

811
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 1: I think that a ship back like him might have

812
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: some sense, but hey, he saw coming. Uh. They also

813
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:42,280
Speaker 1: found out that like there was a discussion that Trump

814
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: had pressured Gary Khane to quash the A T and

815
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 1: T Time Warner deal, which would be really fucking that

816
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 1: would be a problem for him legally if that was

817
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 1: the case. That he may have gotten like debate questions

818
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 1: from like the Megan Kelly debate questions before the debate.

819
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: But really the one that's like surprising but also simultaneously

820
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 1: not surprising at all is that one of their journalists

821
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 1: over there, Diana fol Zone, had who like covered entertainment stuff,

822
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,800
Speaker 1: had basically got proof of the Trump relationship with Stormy

823
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 1: Daniels from two thousand six, like before the election, and

824
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: had all kinds of like just other evidence, spoke with people,

825
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: was able to confirm the story a few different ways,

826
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 1: and brought it to the network and was like, yo,

827
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: I got I have this story about Donald Trump having

828
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 1: this relationship with Stormy Daniels, and there was payoffs to

829
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 1: keep this silent. But as you'd imagine, as they put

830
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: in the article quote, it kept being passed from one

831
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 1: editor to the next, one noncommittal answer after another from

832
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 1: her editors. Then eventually foal Zone had heard from ken

833
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 1: La Court, who is the head of Fox News dot Com,

834
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: who you know, this is her telling of the story,

835
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 1: but she says he told her quote good reporting, kiddo,

836
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 1: but Rupert wants Donald to win, so just let it go.

837
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 1: And then Air was able to confirm this with a

838
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 1: few other colleagues of hers that he had actually said this.

839
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 1: M hm. So yeah, who would have known that Trump

840
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,840
Speaker 1: was also involved in some catch and kill, well not

841
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,280
Speaker 1: catch and kill, but just you know, spiking the story.

842
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:16,839
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's uh, we always talk about how they

843
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 1: become one and the same thing. Yeah, it's state run television.

844
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 1: This is the propaganda wing of the current administration, and

845
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 1: they have a huge advantage having a propaganda wing, Like

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, never underestimate how big an advantage it is. Like, yes,

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Speaker 1: the people who are on the other side being this side. Uh,

848
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Speaker 1: you know, dismiss Fox News and laugh at it, but

849
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Speaker 1: they have a NonStop megaphone to just get out whatever

850
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Speaker 1: message is advantageous to him. Uh, and that message is

851
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Speaker 1: being thought about and you know, rewritten and retold by

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Speaker 1: people much smarter than the president. So it you know,

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Speaker 1: he had it's probably his great this weapon, right, yeah,

854
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Speaker 1: I mean to be able to have an entire network

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Speaker 1: that is not really going to hold your feet to

856
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Speaker 1: the flames ever. I mean occasionally they would, but realistically, no,

857
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,879
Speaker 1: it's meant there to be a cheerleader and to help

858
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Speaker 1: people rationalize the terrible things that are happening, like, well,

859
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Speaker 1: it's actually not that because of this, because you know,

860
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Speaker 1: Trump's actually gonna keep all the brown people out because

861
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Speaker 1: of whatever, whatever your motivations are to support the president.

862
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Speaker 1: But it also should be underestimated how large their audience

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Speaker 1: is they. You know, it was a big deal. I

864
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Speaker 1: think you were saying, Miles a couple of weeks ago

865
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Speaker 1: when Matt al beat Hannity once, Yeah, and it was like, oh,

866
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Speaker 1: what happened? Here is he slipping? But for the most part,

867
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Speaker 1: Hannity and Tugger Carlson are always number one and two,

868
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Speaker 1: like by a long distance, by about one. Hitler mustache

869
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Speaker 1: right exactly, which is equivalent to a million viewers demograph.

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Speaker 1: Weren't aware. So guys, let's talk about Stevie Spielberg. Why

871
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Speaker 1: what do you do? Uh? He is taken on net

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Speaker 1: f ladies in germs. What do you mean like he's

873
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Speaker 1: starting his own streaming service. Yes, it's just e t

874
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Speaker 1: it's all amblant films. Yeah, so he has Uh, he's

875
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Speaker 1: going to the Academy with a case that movies like

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Speaker 1: Roma should not be eligible for the Oscars. Okay, hater,

877
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Speaker 1: he said, yeah, they're perfectly fine films that should be

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Speaker 1: eligible for Emmy's the shade, Steven Spielberg shade, what go on?

879
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: Film film master's degree? The Emmys are for television, right,

880
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 1: so you know they're not movies, right. But his argument is,

881
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: I think you know, the second you go to the

882
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Speaker 1: streaming platform, now you're dabbling in a TV movie despite

883
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 1: Alfonso Karne directing it, because who's he? He's height just

884
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Speaker 1: the director of Harry Potter three and a bunch of

885
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 1: other better movies. Yes, yes, but I mean that's it's

886
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 1: an interesting argument. I think he's really I think, as

887
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Speaker 1: he says, once you commit to a television format, you're

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Speaker 1: a TV you're a TV movie. You certainly, if it's

889
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Speaker 1: a good show, deserve an Emmy, but not an OSCAR.

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Speaker 1: I don't believe films that are just given token qualifications

891
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Speaker 1: in a couple of theaters for less than a week

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Speaker 1: should qualify for the Academy Award nomination, which I get

893
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Speaker 1: to us. I get that sort of the logic of

894
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 1: that argument, but that doesn't take away from the actual

895
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Speaker 1: product that is being created. Like you wouldn't be like, oh,

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Speaker 1: that was Roma's a lifetime movie, right, yeah, exactly, it's

897
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Speaker 1: and Roma is better than anything Steven Spielberg has made

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Speaker 1: in decades. So Warhorse I did, was that Spielberg? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I did not. It's it's he's it's gotten so bad

900
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Speaker 1: that the four I'm like, not even I'm not, I

901
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 1: don't even remember that he's directed. The last good movie

902
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 1: was Minority Report. And I stand by that. It sounds

903
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: like like an old, out of touch guy who is

904
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:07,240
Speaker 1: like failing to evolve with the evolving times and wants

905
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 1: to preserve something that is like kind of going obsolete.

906
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 1: So and I mean, maybe this will cause you know,

907
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Speaker 1: your Netflix is to put more muscle behind putting these

908
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Speaker 1: movies out in theaters, in which case, like I don't

909
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Speaker 1: hate it, like the ballot of Buster scrugs. The Colin

910
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 1: Brothers movie like that was not very well handled in

911
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: terms of its theatrical release. It was like out for

912
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 1: a week and a handful of theaters and that was it.

913
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Speaker 1: Um And that would have been a fun one to

914
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Speaker 1: see on the big screen. And Roma like it was

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Speaker 1: available both at theaters and on Netflix for most of

916
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Speaker 1: it to run. Yeah. Well, also, Netflix is like a

917
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Speaker 1: good incubator to like it allows for more independent filmmakers

918
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Speaker 1: to kind of get a shot at doing something big. So, like,

919
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Speaker 1: while I want to say I understand what his argument is,

920
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,439
Speaker 1: I just think it's it's sort of it's a little

921
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 1: bit ridiculous too, And a lot of people point to

922
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Speaker 1: the fact it's like, well, a lot of these screeners

923
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 1: people are watching these films on DVD anyway, so like

924
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Speaker 1: they're not getting the theatrical experience. And I don't think

925
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 1: in any way as Netflix necessarily a threat to the

926
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Speaker 1: like the motion picture industry. They're just trying to get

927
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Speaker 1: in on the awards in a sort of like indirect way. Yeah,

928
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Speaker 1: I mean that's something that I think I had always

929
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 1: assumed until this piece was written for us by jam McNabb,

930
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 1: one of our writers, and he pointed out that actually,

931
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Speaker 1: when you look at statistics and studies, the streaming services

932
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 1: don't take away from the number of people who are

933
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:48,399
Speaker 1: going to see movies or it's fairly negligible, and in fact,

934
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Speaker 1: the people who stream more hours of TV are the

935
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 1: ones who are most likely to go out to the

936
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Speaker 1: theater to see movies. Maybe working with the streaming services

937
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 1: to kind of use is there that platform to drive

938
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 1: people out to theaters would be the smarter way to

939
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 1: go as opposed to being a salty little bit about it.

940
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Speaker 1: I'm calling my favorite filmmaker of all time? Uh, I mean,

941
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Speaker 1: what do you guys think? Like that? I think the

942
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 1: more interesting conversation and Chris Kelly, I think it was

943
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Speaker 1: I'm Chris Kelly add I'm Chris Kelly tweeted on the

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Speaker 1: night of the Oscars my top ten list of movies

945
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Speaker 1: for this year where and it was like one a

946
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Speaker 1: TV show to a TV show, three a TV show

947
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Speaker 1: for the favorite, five a TV show like all Like

948
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Speaker 1: that is a question that I wonder, like should we

949
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 1: just be having the Academy Awards for the best film

950
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Speaker 1: filmic things like things that are made that are like

951
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Speaker 1: at that level of art Like the O J Documentary

952
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:01,399
Speaker 1: was one that started this conversation a few years back

953
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 1: because it was ESPN documentary that was aired in four

954
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Speaker 1: parts on ESPN, not known for their art house cinema,

955
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 1: but they won the Academy Award because it was released

956
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 1: in theaters briefly the question what was it again? Should

957
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 1: we like prestige TV shows, should they be eligible for

958
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 1: Academy We don't know because they're not really comparable in

959
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 1: that sense, like if you have like eight hours to

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00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 1: tell your story versus two. Yeah, I have a feeling

961
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 1: like over the long term, I don't know, it could

962
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 1: affect you differently. But also a great movie, you're gonna

963
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 1: be like funk that was that was? That was a ship? Right,

964
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, keep them separate but equal

965
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 1: answer for everything. Yeah, you know it's a cowardly response

966
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 1: to anything, like there's no problem. Yeah, I mean I

967
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 1: don't know. It to me, I just feel like, you know,

968
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Speaker 1: if it's a movie, because it's a format. You know,

969
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 1: the film is a format in that sense, I feel

970
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 1: like you should have awards for them. But we're watching

971
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 1: TV shows on they're made by filmmakers. They're on like

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00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 1: screens that are the size of movie theater screens, like

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00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 1: relatively like you you have as much access to, like

974
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 1: the composition of what is in what is being photographed

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00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 1: as you as people in the past did when they're

976
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 1: sitting in giant like thousands see movie theaters. So they

977
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 1: have thousands movie theaters. There were big theaters back in

978
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 1: the day, the Golden era. Dude, I think that for me,

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Speaker 1: I have a complicated relationship with the Academy Awards because

980
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 1: I watched them every year. I'm disappointed by most of

981
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 1: the stuff that happens every year. Uh, And everyone's like

982
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 1: they don't matter, like just like like what you like

983
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 1: and it doesn't matter something wins or doesn't. But it

984
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 1: does kind of matter because that influences people's decisions to,

985
00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 1: you know, go see other things. Right, So I don't

986
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 1: I don't quite know how I feel about that specifically.

987
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 1: What I do want to mention I want to read

988
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 1: a tweet from Ava DuVernay. Is this your green book? Tweet?

989
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 1: Green Book is not about a book that gets bitten

990
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 1: by a radioactive green anyway. Um Ava says, one of

991
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 1: the things I value about Netflix is that it distributes

992
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 1: um black work far and wide. A hundred ninety countries

993
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 1: will get when they see us. Here's a promo for

994
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 1: South Africa. And then she has retweeted something from Netflix

995
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 1: South Africa. And then she says, I I had just

996
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 1: one film distributed wide internationally, not Selma, not Wrinkling Time,

997
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 1: it was thirteen by Netflix. That matters. So she's talking

998
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 1: about the widespread, the distribution, the accessibility of Netflix movies

999
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 1: that don't get sometimes that widespread of a release when

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00:59:56,440 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 1: it's you know, whatever studio that's not Netflix. So that

1001
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 1: and then I had read other things to that effect,

1002
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 1: where you know, Netflix and similar platforms are willing to

1003
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 1: take more of a chance on filmmakers who are people

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01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 1: of color, who are queer, you know, um, from other

1005
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 1: marginalized filmmakers, and that is huge in this time when

1006
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 1: representation is so important, when inclusion is so important. So well, yeah,

1007
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 1: and also all the barriers to entry for traditional filmmaking

1008
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 1: right that exists within our established film industry. That Netflix

1009
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 1: is a disruptor in that sense because they're allowing the

1010
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 1: giving people in roads to that through this thing. And

1011
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 1: that's where you know, Steven Spielberg sounds like an old

1012
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 1: cranky guy because he's like responding to this disruptor. Now

1013
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 1: that's like, oh what the heck? This day, Oh this

1014
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 1: thing Now that's a movie. It's like yeah, it is, yeah,

1015
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 1: and it's better than the ship you've been making, so

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01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 1: fall back, so, you know, more powered Netflix. Although I'm

1017
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 1: still worried about your deficits. Yeah. Hey, but if you

1018
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Speaker 1: want to spend, if you want to send any of

1019
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 1: that fifteen billion dollar production budget that you've got for

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01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 1: this year over to us, we will be more than

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Speaker 1: happy to make you a TV show. Yeah so Netflix,

1022
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Speaker 1: holler yeah, no, I agree, We would be willing to

1023
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Speaker 1: take some of even though it's like taking it from

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Speaker 1: a guy who's writing bad checks. Probably Caitlin, It's been

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Speaker 1: a pleasure having you. Thanks so much. I've had a

1026
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Speaker 1: great time. Great Uh where can people find you other

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Speaker 1: than this Saturday? A Dynasty typewriter in Los Angeles with

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1032
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Speaker 1: better than the ship Spielberg has been pumping. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: from me, an unknown writer who's never done anything, A

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Speaker 1: it'll it'll be right there there you go. And yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: just check out my Instagram stories and make a lot

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Speaker 1: the people want it, letting you know the desire is there?

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Speaker 1: Is there a tweet you've been enjoying? Oh sure, um,

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Speaker 1: to think of something funny to write for a Venmo payment,

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Speaker 1: which I relate to a lot. Mike am I even

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Speaker 1: a comedian If I like, don't write something funny veno. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's why I just use emoji. It seems deeper and

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Speaker 1: when it's really just it's an emoji of a bird. Uh, Miles,

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Speaker 1: where can people find you? Find me? Twitter? Instagram at

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Speaker 1: Miles of Gray. Also this Saturday marks right, Uh you

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Speaker 1: know doing that whole thing. What's happening? Oh you know

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Speaker 1: Steven spiel Renial will arm wrestle for the Fate of

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Speaker 1: the Motion Picture Industry One night only perfect? So yeah,

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Speaker 1: follow me there some tweets I like one is from

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Speaker 1: at Bernard Parada. It was just like this viral video

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Speaker 1: on Twitter that went around. It said currently testing out

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Speaker 1: the hypothesis that vans will always land rights eyed up.

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Speaker 1: And it's like these kids in the dorms just throwing

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Speaker 1: their vans up in the air and they're always landing,

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Speaker 1: like like the shoes. Yes, I'm sorry, not a mini van. No,

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Speaker 1: they're Dan Daniel back at it again with the white vans. Uh.

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Speaker 1: These vans just throwing them up and they always land.

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Speaker 1: It's like a fifty second video. They're like test one.

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Speaker 1: They throw it test too. They're like throwing it down

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Speaker 1: the hall and it's landing right side up. Another one

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Speaker 1: just like against It's I mean, it's not like you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure eventually, but it was interesting and I just

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Speaker 1: thought it was funny because it reminds me being stupid

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Speaker 1: and cause and having a lot of time, Like, Yo,

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Speaker 1: let's just test out if these vans are gonna land

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Speaker 1: right side up for fucking hours. We wrote sleds down

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Speaker 1: a stairwell one time and brooke through the door at

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Speaker 1: the bottom of it. Oh, ship did not go well?

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Speaker 1: Who did someone's feet blow off when they impacted the

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Speaker 1: door where they tucked. They were wearing a football helmet. No, noo,

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Speaker 1: a football helmet. Uh. And then one more is from

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Speaker 1: at Dan White. At at Dan White said manager asking

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Speaker 1: me to leave Hooters because I kept showing the servers

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Speaker 1: pictures of my wife. That's so weird. He always has

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Speaker 1: a knack for describing very interesting situation. Also, if you

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Speaker 1: want another dose of this voice made of velvet and gold,

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Speaker 1: I am actually guessing on Behind the Bastards with Robert

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Speaker 1: Evans and we are talking all about Trump University, one

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Speaker 1: That episodes out now and then there'll be another one

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Speaker 1: dropping Thursday. So check out Behind the Bastards too. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Dave Weigel tweeted Hick and Looper Buddha Jedge would be

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Speaker 1: the presidential ticket and a roll Doll novel. And you

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Speaker 1: to the information that we talked about today's episode, as

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Speaker 1: well as the song we right out on Miles what's

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Speaker 1: that going to do today? Let's do? Uh? And so

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Speaker 1: many people love astrology that listen to the show. This

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Speaker 1: is from the band Negative Gemini. Uh, and it's called

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Speaker 1: you Weren't There Anymore? And Uh, I just think I

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Speaker 1: got a good vibe. But you know, it's Tuesday. We're

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Speaker 1: just trying to make sense of this week. So let's

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Speaker 1: go out on that Negative Gemini shout out to all

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