1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Unpacking the Toolbox is a production of Shondaland Audio in 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: partnership with Higheart Radio scandh Katie. 3 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, we have the greatest guest on today's episode. Hey, Kelly, 4 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 2: I feel like you come on to Scandal and you 5 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 2: are such a star, like a seen stealing shiny beacon 6 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 2: of stunningness. 7 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: Black leather jacket, wearing hair up like Lang, no way, 8 00:00:57,840 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: helmet Lang. 9 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 3: Forgetting it, won't get it because I knew I was 10 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 3: that my fate would change when I came back as 11 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 3: the character. When they had me in All Saints, it 12 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 3: was like last time they had me in Helmet Lang. 13 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 4: I was like, that is so funny, that is amazing. 14 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 2: So for those of you listening who don't know her 15 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 2: by voice, you should or whatever social media picture we 16 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 2: put out. But the guest today is the one and 17 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 2: only Kelly McCreary. Yes, who was on season three of 18 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 2: Scanne or did you start in season two? 19 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 3: No? 20 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 4: Three? 21 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: She started in episode Yolo, which is yes, yeah, that's 22 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: when we first see Claire. 23 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 4: You played Claire. 24 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 3: She played Claire bad Ass Claire Badass B. 25 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 2: Six thirteen agent who calls Harrison h and works for 26 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 2: Maya pope. But wait a second, first and foremost, was 27 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: this your first foray Intoshondaland it was. 28 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, yeah, it was. 29 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 3: So I had a meeting with Lynda Lowe just like 30 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 3: a general a couple of months before that. Yeah, And 31 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 3: so like when this audition came in, it was in 32 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 3: the midst of like episodic season when that was a thing, 33 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 3: So it was like really busy, and this was just 34 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 3: like a couple of little lines, and I was like, oh, 35 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 3: I want to play. I want to do more than 36 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 3: this on Scandal. I should wait until like better role 37 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 3: comes along. And then I was like, no, but Linda 38 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 3: and I had such a great rapport that I should 39 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 3: just say yes to this opportunity. And I went in 40 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 3: to just read my little two little lines, and it 41 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 3: turned out that the scene I was reading was not 42 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 3: the scene I actually did in that first episode Yolo 43 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 3: in the first place, because they always had dummy sides, right, 44 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 3: and then after that, you know, it was intended only 45 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 3: to be a single episode, but then came back and 46 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 3: did another one. 47 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,679 Speaker 2: So when you audition, did you know that it would 48 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 2: recur or you didn't even think it was that. 49 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 5: No, it was not supposed to recur. 50 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 4: Wha, that's how good you did. 51 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 2: She was, wait, so like you even when you were 52 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 2: shooting it, like you didn't know that it was going 53 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:12,239 Speaker 2: to come back another episode. 54 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, no, you know I went to college with Ramlah Muhammad. 55 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 4: You did. 56 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: I didn't know that this episode with Chris Vans, Yes. 57 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 3: Right exactly. And ram La was on set that day 58 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 3: and I was like, oh, yead hey girl. 59 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 5: I had no idea that she was even writing. I 60 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 5: had no idea why I. 61 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 3: Lost track of each other after college. And so we're 62 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 3: catching up and it's great and she's like, well bye. 63 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 3: When I was I was like, so good to. 64 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 5: See you bye. 65 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 3: And then yeah, it turned out that I guess like 66 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 3: I passed a vibe check or something, and she was 67 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 3: able to confirm for Shonda that I wasn't going to 68 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 3: cause them problems, and I came back for another episode. 69 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 3: Ushanda reached out to her to find out it was 70 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 3: worth bring me back, and so she vou. 71 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 5: Like, no assholelog. 72 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 2: Yeah I did say bad, but yes, I guess I 73 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 2: literally causing no asshole policy. 74 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 3: That was really good? 75 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 2: Were you when you came on the Scandal set? Had 76 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 2: you watched Scandal before or you had never seen it or. 77 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, of course. Yeah, I remember sitting in my 78 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 3: New York apartment because it came on late mid season. 79 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was April. 80 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 2: Was the starting date April, which is so late for 81 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 2: even a mid season show. 82 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 3: Yes, but I remember sitting on my brown sofa in 83 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 3: my New York apartment and watching with my roommate at 84 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 3: the time. Like, I remember watching those early episodes and 85 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 3: being like, oh my god, this is so cool and 86 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 3: exciting and flashy and sexy and glamorous and elegant and 87 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 3: so fun. I watched it in the very beginning, and 88 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 3: then I fell off for some reason. Oh I was 89 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 3: like living in Vancouver shooting a show or something, so 90 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 3: I was gonna watch TV. But yeah, I was just going. 91 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:54,679 Speaker 4: To say, were you a fan of Grays as well 92 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 4: early days? 93 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 3: Yes, I was an early fan of Grace. I went 94 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 3: through a very long period of I hope when I 95 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 3: was saw one of those people, Oh I don't really 96 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 3: watch TV, but like I really. 97 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 5: Knew I did too. 98 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I went through a period where two of my 99 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 2: apartments didn't even have a television, and I don't think yeah, 100 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 2: and I don't think I could have for a laptop 101 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 2: I literally have like a good four year span where 102 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 2: I never watched a show like. 103 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, and this was like before streaming, before binginging for me, 104 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 3: like I'm dating myself here, but this was back when 105 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 3: you like had to be home to watch TV and 106 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 3: I lived in New York. I was running them streets now. 107 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 2: So when you found out your dummy size or dummy size, 108 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 2: then you find out, holy shit, I'm gonna come on 109 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 2: and I'm gonna have scenes with Harrison, Like had you 110 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 2: ever worked with him before? 111 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 5: Did you know what that was going to be like? 112 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 2: Were you nervous walking on a set or were you like, oh, 113 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 2: I'm so pro with this or what was the vibe 114 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 2: for you? 115 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,359 Speaker 3: When I tell you it was like an out of 116 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 3: body experience. I had just shot my first series as 117 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 3: a series regular. I'd wrapped it earlier that year, so 118 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 3: I was not completely inexperienced. I knew how to be 119 00:05:57,960 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 3: on set, I knew how things went, I knew how 120 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 3: to I certainly felt capable as an actor. But something 121 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 3: about being on this set because it was like, I mean, 122 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 3: you guys, no, Seattle was such a big deal at 123 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 3: the time, and it was just like, yeah, it was such. 124 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 5: A big deal, and I was like, wait, it's so 125 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 5: like normal here. 126 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 3: And I don't know what I was expecting, but like 127 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 3: I was just waiting for something like jump out at me. 128 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 3: I don't know what I was thinking, but I was 129 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 3: so nervous, pretty sure. I was like, very sweaty. 130 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 4: Under that helmet lang leather jacket. 131 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 2: You didn't look at it, so did you when you 132 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 2: walk down set where you like. 133 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 3: Oh god. And then Columbus was there and I was like, 134 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 3: oh my god, he's so handsome, like even more handsome person. 135 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 5: Oh my god. 136 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 3: I just but again, everybody was so just this is 137 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,239 Speaker 3: just a normal, everyday work day. So I was like, okay, 138 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 3: it was so fast, and but of course that's always 139 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 3: a good thing when you're a guest star. They don't 140 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 3: have to do take after take for you because you're nervous. 141 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 1: And you're sitting waiting for them to get to your ceety. 142 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 5: Oh god, I've done that. 143 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 4: That's the worst. Yeah. 144 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: What sucks is that we didn't even get to work 145 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: with you, Kelly, Like no, in fact, that's the only problem. 146 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 3: I worked only the Columbus was the only series Eary 147 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 3: where I worked with I worked with Candy Alexandelas and 148 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 3: Nasmy and Bonati and on the other day that I 149 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 3: or the other episodes I shot, I did the two 150 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 3: and so. 151 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 5: I never worked with Billy anything. I'm like, is that true? 152 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 3: Yeah? It was? Yeah. 153 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 2: So we can you tell us before we break down 154 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 2: the episode real quick? Can you tell us how the 155 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 2: whole because I vaguely remember the whisperings starting of like 156 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 2: how you got Gray's Scandal? Like how did this all unfold? 157 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 2: Tell us how this hasn't okay? My the narrative, like 158 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 2: the story arc. From my perspective, it looked like this. 159 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 2: I had the meeting with the general with Linda. She 160 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 2: brought me in for the small part on Scandal. She 161 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 2: that turned into a a. 162 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 3: Small recurring and then she brought me in for a 163 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 3: pilot that I wound up shooting a role on, not 164 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,679 Speaker 3: the role I originally went in for, but that pilot 165 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 3: got picked up. It was Peter Horton, who was the 166 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 3: oh wows the director Anatomy, Yeah, and an early ep 167 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 3: on Grey's Anatomy, and he it was a project of 168 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 3: his and oh my god, I feel so bad. Let 169 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 3: me tell you something that I had the time of 170 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 3: my life shooting that in Boston in the dead of winter. 171 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 3: I was so excited about that show. And then this 172 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,719 Speaker 3: Gray's Anatomy Park came out, which when they put out 173 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:39,239 Speaker 3: the breakdown for it. 174 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 5: It was it might have been a guest star, but 175 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 5: I knew. 176 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 3: I knew it was recurring. I knew it was going 177 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,839 Speaker 3: to recur, and so I went in for it. And 178 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 3: then I booked that and I was like, cool, got 179 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 3: this this recurring role on this pilot. I got this 180 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 3: recurring role on Grays. Although I knew that the offer 181 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 3: was coming in the firm Grays, my manager and Linda 182 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 3: had been in communication. They were like, it's you. You're 183 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 3: have to pick, You're to pick. I didn't get this contract, y'all. 184 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 3: I was supposed to shoot on a Friday. I finally 185 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 3: got the contract on Wednesday night at nine pm, and 186 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 3: the contract was for a serious A series regular option 187 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 3: and I was like, excuse me, and I didn't know 188 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 3: what to do. And I was like, but I want 189 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 3: to do this other show, and I did not know 190 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 3: what to do. I have no time to make the decision. 191 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 3: And I was like, I'm gonna kiss somebody off, like 192 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 3: no matter. 193 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: And you know what, Grays, Yeah, you know what, Grays 194 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: are going to be there for like thirty eight years. 195 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 4: This is for sure going to go listen. 196 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 3: I did not know that because you guys at the time, 197 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 3: Grays had been on the air for ten seasons already. 198 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 2: Which so you were like that if I do the 199 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 2: Grays thing and it turned into a series regular, then 200 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 2: maybe it's just gonna be the last year of Grays 201 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 2: and then I'm gonna miss that might just be starting 202 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 2: your journey. And so maybe all of a sudden yeah yeah, 203 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 2: kindsight of twenty twenty, you didn't know that Grays was 204 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:06,959 Speaker 2: going to be going. 205 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 5: For twenty twenty ten. 206 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 3: I have no idea. I had no idea, So I 207 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 3: just I didn't. I was like, oh, okay, great, and 208 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 3: so that's pretty much I made the decision. And then 209 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 3: like within gosh, five or six episodes of the following season, 210 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 3: because I appeared at the end of season ten, like 211 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,079 Speaker 3: and that last two episodes of season ten went back 212 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 3: to recur at the beginning of season eleven, and I 213 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 3: think within five or six episodes, Shonda called and promoted 214 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 3: me the series regular. 215 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: So, oh man, what happened with the other show? Then 216 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: it just it didn't even make it to air. 217 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 3: It did one season. It shot in New York City, 218 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:53,319 Speaker 3: what I understand was the coldest winter up to that day. 219 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 5: That sounds brutal. 220 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 3: Oh my god, what was the name of it because 221 00:10:58,320 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 3: it was a different name than what. 222 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 5: We was damage control? 223 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 4: Yeah? 224 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 5: And then how many years did you do on Grades nine? 225 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 4: Oh my god, my lord? 226 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 5: Have wow that? 227 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 3: Yeah? 228 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 4: Is this true, Kelly? 229 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: That you went to the powers that be and asked, 230 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: respectfully to that you wanted to move on and ye 231 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: done with the show. That's when you know you've been 232 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: on the show a long last time when you're like, 233 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: I think to move on. 234 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 2: Sandra did that too on the show, right, like she 235 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:34,719 Speaker 2: does so amazing. That's just an amazing Yeah. Like artistically 236 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 2: or however. 237 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:39,199 Speaker 5: Whatever reactly personal or professionally. You know, you're just like, 238 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 5: I'm wanted to move on, move on or whatever. 239 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 3: I think that. Look the Sandra has done. Numerous actors 240 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 3: on the on the show have done it. I think 241 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 3: that nobody expects any actors job to last like a year, 242 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 3: let alone, you know, five, let alone nine. I got 243 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 3: that job at my thirties, so I had. 244 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 5: Up to the unbelievable. I don't even understand what's going on. Okay, okay. 245 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 3: Right up to prior to that, I had been like 246 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 3: a journey woman actor and I'd played lots of different 247 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 3: roles and been in a lot of places. And then 248 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 3: I played Maggie Peers for nine years, which was absolutely incredible. 249 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 3: And do I think that Maggie Peers may still have 250 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 3: some stories left to tell? Absolutely, Like it's not like 251 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 3: there was nothing else to do or say in the role, 252 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 3: but it was just time for me creatively to like 253 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 3: get back on my horse. And also I'm in a 254 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 3: different place in life and like just things have changed, 255 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 3: and I thought, I think that I need some space 256 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 3: from this to figure out what the next step is 257 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 3: and to build up the rest Knockwood, the rest of 258 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 3: my career. 259 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 5: To build it out with this incredible foundation. 260 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I can remember when Scandal was ending, Like 261 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 2: Jeff Perry said something to the extent of, like, it's 262 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 2: incredible if you can land an acting job in any 263 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 2: way that is secure or consistent for so many reasons, 264 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 2: you know, mentally, financially like all of those things, but inherently, 265 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 2: like being an actor is so nomadic, and what's exciting 266 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 2: about being an actor is playing lots of different things 267 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 2: overall a period of time. And so he would say 268 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 2: that when we were like getting bummed that scandal was 269 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 2: ending at year seven, because I think he was like, yes, 270 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 2: it's sad, but also we have to be excited about 271 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 2: the journeymanute being a journey actor like to play different 272 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 2: parts and whether you know you make that decision for 273 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 2: yourself or your show is ending after a really long run, 274 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 2: which you're so lucky to get, there's something creatively about 275 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 2: playing different parts. 276 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 5: That's what's big about the job. 277 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 3: For sure. I think that's what we all signed up for. 278 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 3: And like I said, like it's incredible, Like gosh, Ellen 279 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 3: has been playing Merreth Gray for over twenty years and 280 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 3: that's crazy. 281 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 5: Imagine playing the same character. 282 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 3: You're going through changes in your life and the character 283 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 3: comes along with you, and they inform that. 284 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 5: I'm like, that is unheard of. 285 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 1: When you they keep adding those zeros, they keep adding 286 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: those zeros. 287 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 4: That's what makes it possible. Let's be real in this piece, I'll. 288 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 5: Tell you that's what makes it impossible. 289 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 4: To impossible to leave exactly. 290 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: I love how all our lives crossed paths while we 291 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: were doing press for our shows. You started doing a 292 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: ton of for the upfront and the TCAs, and we'd 293 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: see Kelly at all these events, and we all just 294 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: had this mutual like shondaland love for each other because 295 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: we were fans of your show, You're fans of our show, 296 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: and it was just so it was so wonderful seeing 297 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: you out and chilling with you and hanging out. 298 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 4: That was always it. 299 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 5: I love the show. I loved you on the show. 300 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 5: I loved you on Scandal. 301 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 4: We'll be right back, guys. 302 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 3: I do think that I got to join this show 303 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 3: at such a special time because the year that I 304 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 3: started on the show was the same year that How 305 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 3: To Get Away started, and so that was the first 306 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 3: year of TGIT, so where I was boarding this moving 307 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 3: train all by myself. By the way, because a lot 308 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 3: of people have come on to the show along with 309 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 3: other characters, I came alone, you know. I became a 310 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 3: series regular on great Or. Katerina became a series reg 311 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 3: go on Grays the same time, but she had already 312 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 3: existed in. 313 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 5: The unifors and been backed and she got. 314 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 3: On Private Practice, so she was definitely knew at the 315 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 3: same time as me and the grades, but she was 316 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 3: not new to the universe or I still felt like 317 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 3: I was charting new territory on my own. And but 318 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 3: it was like there was so much celebration around the 319 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 3: TGIT stuff. There was so much community building between the 320 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 3: three shows, and it was like, oh my god, I 321 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 3: just am so grateful that I was able to come 322 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 3: on at that time because I felt low. I was like, 323 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 3: I got to Gray's and everybody was wonderful and very 324 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 3: welcoming and interested in engaging with me and helping to 325 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 3: develop Maggie and everything like that. It was awesome. But 326 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,479 Speaker 3: at the same time, they're like grown ass people with lots. 327 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 4: Of kids, you know in the show for a minute. Yeah, yeah, 328 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 4: And I was. 329 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 3: Just like nuw to la and nude to the this 330 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 3: part of the scene and stuff. And it was so 331 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 3: fun to be able to like have that celebratory party 332 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 3: vibe provided by our like shared TGI T experience. I mean, 333 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 3: big deal. 334 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 2: That put her in that That put Shanda in the 335 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 2: like the dick Wolf category. You don't get full nights 336 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 2: of TV and you have multiple shows. 337 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 5: Happening at one time. 338 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 2: Somebody better pluck this girl yes into their show, because 339 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 2: not only are you you're such a beauty and so stunning, 340 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 2: but like your acting is so good. 341 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 5: It's like it just seems so trained. 342 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 2: So I'm so relaxed, like I'm just so oh my god, 343 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 2: she can do anything, like she's got it all. 344 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 5: Like it's just like. 345 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 2: I can't even believe you were on scan. Like it 346 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 2: was like, no, this girl is like a fucking star. 347 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 2: Get her out of hereever be the lead of her thing. 348 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 2: Obviously Shanda and was watching and was like, oh no, 349 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 2: she's mine anywhere. 350 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 3: Thank you you guys, No, thank you so much. I 351 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 3: do I have to say, listen, there's definitely footage of 352 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 3: me on the internet, possibly on television to this day, 353 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:40,199 Speaker 3: on my very first on screen acting job. I'm not 354 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 3: going to name it. I don't want to searching for it. 355 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 4: I'm going to google it right now, Kelly, I had to. 356 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 3: I learned a lot on the job because I worked 357 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 3: really hard and I learned as I went. So much 358 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 3: of this is timing, and I happened to be like 359 00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 3: really blossoming into my confident at the same time that 360 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 3: I was bossing into my abilities at the same time 361 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 3: that you know, I was ready to come to LA 362 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 3: And so it was, you know, after being in New 363 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 3: York for so long, So. 364 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 4: Are you a native New Yorker? 365 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 3: I grew up in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, and I went to 366 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 3: college in New York and State for a long time, 367 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 3: and that was sort of my home base. So I 368 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 3: did like a lot of regional theater and a little 369 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,239 Speaker 3: out bad Way and one Broadway show. But like I 370 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 3: was just you know, journey Woman, a little bit of 371 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,679 Speaker 3: guest starring here and there, founding the pavement that was 372 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 3: my training ground. And so yeah, I do I thank 373 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 3: you for saying all of that. And I do feel 374 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 3: like it was just a lot of manifesting timing, like 375 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,439 Speaker 3: being in the right place at the right time. And 376 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 3: I do think also that Linda Lowe was a not 377 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 3: a guardian angel what do you call it, like a 378 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 3: fairy godmother, Like she just kept creating, kept like she 379 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 3: she kept. 380 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 2: Opening the door for you and putting you in the place. 381 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 2: But it was you you got there that could like keep. 382 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 2: And I had really similar Shanna used to say to me, like, oh, 383 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 2: where did you just come from? Like overnight is Quinn 384 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 2: And I was like I tested for all three doctors 385 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 2: of Off the Map last year. 386 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 4: With you in there. 387 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 2: Because the Cat's bringing me, shoving me like in front 388 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 2: of her face because she knew at some point it 389 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 2: might line up. And did you say Linda was the 390 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 2: person who cast the other pilot that you were shooting Boston? 391 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 5: Oh? 392 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 4: Oh wow. 393 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. She was such a champion. She was like, I'm 394 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 3: going to get this girl a job and she did. 395 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 5: Oh my god, she is the fucking best. 396 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 3: Okay she is. 397 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 2: This is sadly the episode where your amazing character dies, 398 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 2: but we don't have to be sad because you went 399 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 2: on to have a nine year. 400 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 6: Run worked out okay, And it was called although I 401 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 6: never wore any helmet laying on Gray's Anatomy, Yeah, damn it. 402 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 5: Okay. 403 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 2: This is episode three sixteen, which was called The Fluffer. 404 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 2: We'll get into that in a second. It aired on 405 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 2: April third and twenty fourteen. 406 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: And it was written by Chris Van Duson and Ramaala 407 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: Mohammad and it was directed by the jhos Wark. 408 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 2: The episode was starring John Tenny As, Andrew Nichols, Tom 409 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 2: and Mandy's and Samuel Ruston. Candy Alexander Is, Maya Lewis, 410 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 2: Paul Eedelstein is Leo Bergen. 411 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: Brenda Strong is Joan rest In, Sebastian Rochet is Dominic Bell, 412 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: and Kelly McCreary is Claire Tucker Kelly and then to. 413 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 2: Just rack everyone's brains, including our own, of what the 414 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 2: hell this episode was about. As Olivia tries to get 415 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 2: the truth from her father, the White House deals with 416 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 2: a major press issue. Janine Locke is back with a 417 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 2: tell all book about her affair with fits. Since Olivia 418 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 2: took a day off, both Cyrus and Fitch ignor her 419 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 2: advice and try to solve the problem for themselves. 420 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Quinn Charlie track down Maya Pope is Hockey is 421 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: about to shut down B six thirteen thanks to a 422 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: little spy work from Olivia, but everything goes belly up 423 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: on both Maya and Jake know that Olivia has been intervening. 424 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 2: Okay, we usually go were you able to watch the episode, 425 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 2: It's totally okay. If you didn't, I did. 426 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 5: I watched it last year, which was okay. 427 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 2: So ten years ago you look exactly the same, so 428 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 2: congratulations on that. Let's just go through each of us 429 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 2: like favorite highlight moments. We'd like to say the Kerry 430 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 2: Washington school of acting, where you're just like holy shit, 431 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 2: that person's acting was crazy. 432 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 5: Or Shonda Rhymes school of writing was like the best 433 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 5: writing ever. 434 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 2: I couldn't get over Mine is a different category. A. 435 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 2: I thought Andrew Nichols is sporting a black guy the 436 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 2: whole time, and I thought it looked terrible. Really, he's 437 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 2: the guy running on the ticket with VI and in 438 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 2: the episode before, Fitz punches him in the face because 439 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,239 Speaker 2: he finds out that he and Melly are having an 440 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 2: affair there love with each other, so he punches him. 441 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 2: So this whole episode he has to sport this black 442 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 2: guy that's healing. 443 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 5: I didn't even know. I didn't know. 444 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 4: I'm like, what are you talking about? Black guys did 445 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 4: not look good? 446 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 5: Sorry, I love you. Scandal makeup. 447 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 4: They were to be real subtle. 448 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, they were really subtle. 449 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 2: My favorite line is when the Janine block book comes 450 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 2: out and the whole press releases or the press is 451 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 2: all asking. 452 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 5: Him does he have a breadstick or a begette. 453 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 3: It's definitely I thought that they were like gonna cut 454 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 3: away right before she said it or something. 455 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 5: I was like, oh no, no. 456 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 2: More times, I'm like, this is the luckiest dog in 457 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 2: all of TV. 458 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 5: Like you for all this time. 459 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 2: You just have the writers making you like the swaggiest, 460 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 2: coolest hung dude. 461 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 5: It's like he can do no wrong, he can do 462 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 5: no wrong. Like it's insane. Did anyone have your favorite parts? 463 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 5: You know? 464 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:06,360 Speaker 4: Yeah? 465 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 3: I loved this scene where Olivia flex is on the VP. 466 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 3: That was so good. That was such a great scene 467 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 3: where she's like, you got two choices, and then I 468 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 3: just loved like it was just quintessential scandal because it 469 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 3: was like, here goes the power flex Here comes the 470 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 3: moral ambiguity, here comes the how is she going to 471 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 3: leverage her power to still win in this situation without 472 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 3: just like telling somebody what to do, but like actually 473 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 3: making making it so that they really don't have a choice. 474 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 3: Was so gangster. I I that was such a great scene. 475 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 3: It was so good. 476 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 5: It's so sad, Fitz says to Olivia. 477 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:46,880 Speaker 4: She says, what do you want? 478 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 5: What do you want? 479 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 2: He says, have Andrew Nichols stop sleeping with my wife. 480 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 4: Stop screw Oh it's horrible. 481 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,640 Speaker 2: And then she goes and gives Andrew Nichols and ultimatum, 482 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 2: like Kelly said, you have two choices. Either you can 483 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 2: run for president, run for vice president, or you can 484 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 2: continue being in love with Melly, but I'm going to 485 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 2: make your life a living hell and we're going to 486 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 2: destroy your entire reputation. Your career will be over, you'll 487 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 2: be run out of DC. 488 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 3: It's a class and then Mellie won't want you anyway. 489 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 4: So exactly, yeah, right, once you're. 490 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 2: Enoughing politically, Mellie's not going to want you. So what 491 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 2: do you want to be vice president for four years? 492 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 2: Or do you want to fuck Melly for a month? 493 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 2: What's your yeahs? Basically, don't make me take out my 494 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 2: big stick. And so it's astral. 495 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 1: One of my favorite scenes, like top top favorite scene 496 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: in this in this episode is when Jake is outside 497 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: of Live's door and he's please let me in. I'm drunk, 498 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: and she's like no, and then she has this line 499 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: that I freaking love. She says, I would never kill 500 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: your friends because Jake had killed James. At that point, 501 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: she's so heartbroken and sad and just on the other 502 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 1: side of the door. 503 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 4: And then at the end of that. 504 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 1: Scene, he says to her, I asked you to save 505 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,199 Speaker 1: me and you said no. I mean, I'm sure she 506 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: had walked away from the door already. Oh, it's so 507 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: sad to see Jake so vulnerable. Olivia, I need you 508 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: to save me, and she basically was like, no, go home, 509 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 1: get out of here. 510 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 4: That's such a heart wrenching scene. So good. 511 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 2: Also in this episode, Jake and Live hook up again 512 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 2: in Bone they go to Bone Town and the whole 513 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 2: time I was thinking, she's super pregnant and how was she? 514 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:20,199 Speaker 4: Yes, she was. I don't remember. In this episode, I. 515 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 2: Had to do a sex scene while pregnant. I can't 516 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 2: even imagine how like uncomfortable that is. Have you had 517 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 2: to do that, Kelly, Like, I can't even imagine. 518 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 5: No, I remember doing like a little snog. 519 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 3: I was like my body, get off of me in 520 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 3: the way. 521 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, Like I can't imagine. 522 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 2: I feel like when we had Scott on he might 523 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 2: have even talked about it to you where he was 524 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 2: like they were like can you roll over? 525 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 4: Yes, it was choreographs. 526 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, like I can. He was like I can't. I mean, 527 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 5: she was like very pregnant at this point. They made 528 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 5: it look great. It was a lot of quick. 529 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 1: Cuts and I was gonna say I even wrote down 530 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: and notes that this was the hottest sex between Living 531 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 1: Live and Jake, Like this scene and maybe it was 532 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: because it was edited so beautifully and when it was 533 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: just quick and hot, and you knew that Olivia was 534 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: up to no good because she's trying to get something 535 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:18,360 Speaker 1: from Jake and. 536 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 5: She brings she takes advantage of him. 537 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 2: She's like snugging on his chest and for the first 538 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 2: time vulnerable and he falls asleep, and then she steals 539 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 2: his phone, brings the phone into o PA sad. 540 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 5: It's so sad. We will be back with more after 541 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 5: the break. 542 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 2: My ultimate favorite part of the episode is when Melly 543 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 2: goes up to Andrew Nichols and is like, do you 544 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 2: want to meet for a little fun time for a 545 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 2: couple hours and he's no, sorry, if it's I'm not 546 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 2: ever doing that again, you sort of thing. And then 547 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 2: she just marches into the Oval office and there's a 548 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,959 Speaker 2: million people in there. She fucking bitch slaps Fits so 549 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 2: hard across the face and only like Melly in her 550 00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 2: in her. 551 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 5: Death rattle voice is like to take everything from there. 552 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 3: That was a great moment. I had to say. I 553 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,880 Speaker 3: was like, I haven't watched the show. First of all, 554 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 3: I can't believe you guys have been off the air 555 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 3: for six years. It feels like it was just yesterday, 556 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 3: but yeah, crazy weird. So I haven't watched the show 557 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 3: since it was on the air. I was like, oh 558 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 3: my god, there's time the casual violence that was such 559 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 3: an int Yeah, and. 560 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 5: Somebody's throwing live up against a wall. 561 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 4: Oh yeah. I was like, oh my, oh yeah. 562 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 5: This is very ten PM or whatever. It was very violent. 563 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 2: They that always just a shock Shonda, because you would say, 564 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 2: like standards and practices has so many issues going through 565 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 2: what's allowed to be aired on the network show. 566 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 5: They had so many issues with some. 567 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 2: Sexual stuff, abortion stuff, this that, But like the guns 568 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 2: and the violence was like willing. 569 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 4: Like fine, yeah you could pull her out, Well. 570 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 5: You can do whatever you want. 571 00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 3: Was gruesome, right, Okay. 572 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 2: Talk about how did you think you did, Kelly, How 573 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 2: did you think your acting was? I think you were amazing, 574 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 2: But like I thought Quinn was red. There was one 575 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 2: part where Twinn runs in out of the their surveillance 576 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 2: Herman Hawker, her and Charlie are doing surveillance fan on 577 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 2: Maya Pope and then all of a sudden, B six 578 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 2: thirteen gets shut down. Hawk hacks into B six thirteen 579 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,719 Speaker 2: and Olivia says shut it down, and he shuts down 580 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 2: all of Thesic thirteen and I jump out of the 581 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 2: van and I run with a gun into the hotel room, 582 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 2: and my god, my acting was bad. 583 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was pretty bad. Did you have it pretty bad? 584 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 5: What did you think? What did you have? 585 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: I think there was some corny moments in this episode. 586 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 1: That that scene where Huck is like, I can shut 587 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: it down live, I can do it right now if 588 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: you want me to, and she takes the moment she's like, 589 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: shut it down. It was a bit over dramatic and 590 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: a bit of camp, but it was still fun. And 591 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: then I still am blown away by the I think 592 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: even on set, I had an issue with Jake coming 593 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: up to Olivia and grabbing her by the necond, pushing 594 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: her up against the wall. 595 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 4: I was like, Huck would have like murdered. 596 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: Him, but you know, her thing is gone. He's pointing 597 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: his gun at Hucks, So I get that. It was 598 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: such a It was such. 599 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 5: An odd why he does that. I don't like either either. 600 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't love it. 601 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 4: Listen, it was in the script doing that. Yeah, the script. 602 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 5: You guys never challenge the script. 603 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 2: No, I think other actors did on Scandal, but I 604 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 2: definitely didn't g did you No. 605 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: I think there might have been a moment where I 606 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: said something like, what, I don't understand you. I don't know, 607 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: but I didn't. I didn't challenge it hard like other 608 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: actors too. 609 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 4: We listen. 610 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: I was afraid I was going to get booted off 611 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: the show just for you know, just because they were 612 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: done with Hucks. 613 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:46,719 Speaker 4: So I didn't want to. I didn't want to make 614 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 4: any sudden movements. 615 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 2: I also think after Grey's Anatomy, Sean knew like she 616 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 2: had this rule that was like, I guess we followed it, 617 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 2: but I bet like Kerry and Tony would talk to 618 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 2: her about stuff, but she would say, Okay, after a 619 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 2: table read, you have twenty four hours you send me 620 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:01,479 Speaker 2: an email. 621 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 5: Oh you did, okay? 622 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, for hours to send an email if you 623 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 2: wanted a change or something like that. If I agree 624 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 2: with the change, you'll see it in a rewrite. But 625 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 2: if I don't agree with the change, you'll just never 626 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 2: hear from me. 627 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 4: I love that. 628 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 5: That's so funny. 629 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 1: One of my other favorite things in this episode, You Guys, 630 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: is went at the top of the show when Abby 631 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: walks into the White House and she's wearing the White coat, 632 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: holding a purse at the edge of her wrist, real 633 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 1: freaking professional and ready to go and take over for 634 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: Olivia Pope and they are just not having. 635 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 3: Her walk out of the room on her I'm like. 636 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, wow, Abby is not Olivia Pope. 637 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 5: We do not accept her by proxy on this campaign trail. Goodbye. 638 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,719 Speaker 1: And this is the first time that Cyrus calls Abby 639 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: Gabby and she keeps correcting him. He's yeah, okay, Gabby, okay. 640 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 2: So Kelly, do you watch yourself work? Do you watch 641 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 2: your acting as a rule? Do you have rules about that? 642 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 2: And how was it watching yourself last night? 643 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 5: I watched myself at the beginning of stuff, right, So 644 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 5: see what sort of tweaking and fine tuning is what 645 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 5: I'm trying to do? 646 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 3: Reading? 647 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 5: What can I do more of? What do I need 648 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 5: to do? 649 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 3: Less of? What habits am I falling into that I'm 650 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 3: not aware of? And then I cannot watch myself anymore? 651 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 3: Like I didn't watch it the last I can't say 652 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 3: how much of Grades I didn't watch, but it was 653 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 3: a lot. I can't do it. But watching myself last 654 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 3: night on Scandal, I was like, oh, wow. 655 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 1: You're so sexy, You're so good in it. And the 656 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: fact that Claire calls Harrison h It's such a double 657 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 1: O seven like moment. It's very that, right. I just 658 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 1: love that she calls him h It's so it's so sexy, 659 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 1: it's so great. 660 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 4: It's so good. 661 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 5: That's the thing. 662 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 3: It was like that. But Claire was only that one scene. 663 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 3: The character only existed in that one scene. But her 664 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 3: calling him hyeah tells you so exactly. Yes, Yes, that. 665 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 5: Little rehearsal of writing was just like so youngy. 666 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 3: So I was like, oh, there's history, there's mysteries, like 667 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 3: there's something here, and so it was really fun to 668 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 3: lean into that. I certainly don't think of myself as 669 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 3: like a mysterious person. 670 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 5: I'm working with Candy Alexander. 671 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 3: Oh my god. First of all, she is so cool, 672 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 3: but she's sexy and fabulous and talk about confidence, she's 673 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 3: like dripping with it. And after one I don't know 674 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 3: if it was a rehearsal or a take. Speaking of habits, 675 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 3: I like default to like a quirky behavior. I think 676 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:38,479 Speaker 3: it was. 677 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 5: I don't know if it. 678 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 3: Was in like a rehearsal or if we were shooting 679 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 3: and it was on coverage or something. But I like 680 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 3: made this like kind of face, like she was staring 681 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 3: at me in a very intimidating way, and the appropriate 682 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 3: reaction for this character would have been to, like, I 683 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,479 Speaker 3: pretend like I was staring down back at her, right 684 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 3: because I was trying to be her equal, and I 685 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 3: did something weird. 686 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 5: I don't know what it was, but she no, she 687 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 5: and she was like, she literally was like, you're so weird. 688 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 3: Weird weirdo. 689 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 1: That is so did you know I'm a huge fan 690 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 1: of Candy. I mean, everyone's a fan of Candy Alexander's 691 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: but she was. I mean, the first thing that pops 692 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 1: in my head is Poetic Justice, which I love that. 693 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: But she also, Kelly, did you know that she choreographed 694 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 1: like three of Whitney Houstonson Houston's like top world tours. 695 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 4: Did you know this? 696 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 5: You know what? 697 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I did not know that, But I remember 698 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 3: learning something about her that day, about her dance career 699 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 3: that I was like, oh my god. But like I 700 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 3: had my mind blown that day and you're just reminding 701 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 3: me of it, so I can't remember exactly what the 702 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 3: details of it are right now, but like I remember 703 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 3: that day being like what so you can look at 704 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,719 Speaker 3: her body. I mean, oh, you're a dancer, and I 705 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 3: think I remember like asking about that or something, you know, 706 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 3: but yeah, that's crazy. 707 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 2: I haven't had a body like that since high school, 708 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:13,800 Speaker 2: Like man, like, how are you that compact and strong? 709 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:18,439 Speaker 2: Pushing and she's unbelievable. Okay, you always do Giermo's Six 710 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:22,800 Speaker 2: Degrees of Horror or Madonna, because then there's two favorite 711 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 2: things in the world. Have you never done horror film? 712 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 5: I've never done a horror film. I've done. 713 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 3: I did this like really cool short that was like 714 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 3: a kind of a thriller, but it was really more 715 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,320 Speaker 3: like suspense. It was not horror. 716 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 4: But are you a fan of the horror? The horror Kelly, 717 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 4: I'm not. 718 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 3: I don't like the gore. I don't like the jump scares, like, 719 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 3: oh God. 720 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 5: Get that jump scare. 721 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 3: I like a jump scare, and like a murder mystery, 722 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 3: like a murder comedy, but like a jump like an 723 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 3: axe coming down on somebody is like not my jam. 724 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 1: But you're probably like a fan of like Silence of 725 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,760 Speaker 1: the Lambs, like that sort of horror thriller. 726 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 4: No or no, even that's too much, too scary for me. 727 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 3: It's too scary. 728 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 5: To me suit out of a human skin. 729 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 3: That's true. 730 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 4: That's true. That's true. 731 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 5: Man, nobody wants that. I don't care for it. 732 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:17,839 Speaker 4: Yeah. 733 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 1: There was one guest star on the show, Sebastian Rochet, 734 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 1: who played Dominic Bell, who did three sort of horror 735 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 1: esque shows. He was on Supernatural for a while, and 736 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 1: then he was on Fringe with our girl j Justeseka 737 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 1: Nicole Yeah yes, who played Huk's wife for a bunch 738 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 1: of episodes, and then he was also on The Vampire Diaries. 739 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:38,240 Speaker 1: So it's a horror esque but she has exactly yeah, yeah, 740 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 1: but like I. 741 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 3: Could do so. So here's the thing. Horror is no 742 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 3: genre I like to watch. But actually, ironically, I was 743 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:49,479 Speaker 3: just reading this Lupita Jungo profile and Glamour Yesterday free 744 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:53,800 Speaker 3: plug but and she talks about how she loves to 745 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 3: do it because it's fun, but also it requires the 746 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 3: way that you have to sustain and because the energy 747 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,359 Speaker 3: of the tension requires so much actual physical energy, like 748 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,720 Speaker 3: over the person, there's so much salmina And I thought 749 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 3: that's interesting. That would be a really interesting acting challenge, 750 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 3: right because in anything else, you're like, I've been in 751 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 3: flowing with it. But there it's always in a text. 752 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 1: She was did you guys see Lupita and Us? She is, yes, 753 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 1: ridiculously talented in that movie that she has to do 754 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 1: in that film. 755 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 3: It's to see this quiet place. Pretty cool because I 756 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 3: like that. I liked quiet Place. Does that count as far? 757 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,879 Speaker 4: Yes? Yeah, absolutely, I like that one. 758 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:40,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's talk about some I know, Kelly, this is terrified. 759 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 2: Happened a few Scandal tweets of the time, because it's 760 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 2: like opening up a time capsule, and. 761 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 5: Oh, this is good to know. 762 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 2: Carrie Washington tweeted, so we can all feel better about this. 763 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 2: F yi is stunt double who was thrown up against 764 00:36:55,239 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 2: the glass door? Oh scandal? So even her and she 765 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 2: was pregnant and gee, you don't even remember that. 766 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 4: No, I don't remember there being a stunt double. Listen cave. 767 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,399 Speaker 1: Victoria Chase tweeted you telling me B six thirteen can 768 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 1: take out. 769 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 4: It can be taken. 770 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 1: Out by trip and a circuit breaker. 771 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 2: Hashtag unbelievable, hashtag nights that hashtag scandal. 772 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,359 Speaker 1: Yes, Kelly, were you on Twitter during this time, like 773 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 1: during like the like when you did scandal and unwillingly? 774 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, not enjoy the social they give me big anxiety. 775 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,759 Speaker 2: Andy t Germ tweeted, I'd love to meet the five 776 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,839 Speaker 2: year old boy who writes all the Fits's dialogue hashtags. 777 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 1: Jazmine Ballejo tweeted, finally watched Scandal episode from last night, 778 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 1: and I'd just like to say that Jake Ballard can 779 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 1: get it anytime, anywhere. 780 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 4: Oh shit, it's hard in the eyes emoji. 781 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 5: I finally watched the episode from yes last night. 782 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 2: Girl, how much It's so true. It's so true. That's 783 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 2: so funny. 784 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 5: Okay. At spect in Script tweeted, so. 785 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 3: Was it me? 786 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,240 Speaker 2: Or was there some eye flirting going on between Abby 787 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,320 Speaker 2: and Leo and yesterday's eppie hashtags? 788 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 4: Always there was always? 789 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, the Leo Abby chemistry was fiery. It was hot. 790 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 4: This is one of my favorite tweets. Nasty Woman Kiky tweeted. 791 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 1: Fuck you Fits and Olivia, you both suck hashtags Scandal. 792 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 5: Yes, she mad, same chick. 793 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 2: Nasty Woman Kiky tweeted, oh my, Melly is gonna get 794 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,920 Speaker 2: screwed because Fits is a douchebag that gets to have 795 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 2: a mistress but his wife can't Scandal. 796 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 5: Fuck you Fits, I love it. 797 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:44,880 Speaker 3: It is not fair. 798 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 4: It is freaking fair. 799 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 5: Oh my God, Like Kelly, you are the greatest. 800 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 2: The next episode up is number three seventeen, called Flesh 801 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,279 Speaker 2: and Blood. I have no idea if we have a 802 00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:01,240 Speaker 2: guest or not, but Kelly, what you came on briefly 803 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:02,320 Speaker 2: at Scandal and. 804 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,759 Speaker 1: You left your mark, you left, you made an impression. 805 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 3: Ah sucks. Thank you. 806 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 2: You're lucky to have talented, so talented, so beautiful. 807 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 5: It's an honor to be here. 808 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:15,919 Speaker 3: This is so much fun. 809 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:17,239 Speaker 5: I love that you guys are doing this. 810 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 3: You're the culture of your show was happy and about together, 811 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 3: this and joy, and all these years later, you're still 812 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,799 Speaker 3: doing this and I'm so grateful to be part of it. 813 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for you such a fun walkdown 814 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 3: memory lane, you guys. 815 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:34,320 Speaker 5: Thanks Kelly. 816 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:35,760 Speaker 3: I love you guys. 817 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 4: Thanks for listening. Gladiators, We love you, Gladiators. 818 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 5: Next week, episode three seventeen. I don't remember the name. 819 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 4: Flesh and Blood. 820 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 2: Oh, flesh and Blood, Bye bye. 821 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 1: Thank you guys for joining us on Unpacking the Toolbox. 822 00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,839 Speaker 1: If you enjoyed the show, please subscribe, share with your friends, rate, 823 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:01,960 Speaker 1: or leave us a review. 824 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,240 Speaker 2: Unpacking the Toolbox was executive produced by Sandy Bailey Alex 825 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 2: Alce Lauren Holman, Tyler Klang, and Gabrielle Collins. 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