00:00:08 Speaker 1: And I invited you here. I thought I made myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest in my home, you gotta come to me empty. And I said, no, guest, your presences presents enough, and I already had too much stuff, So how do you dare to surbey me? 00:00:47 Speaker 2: Welcome to? I said, no gifts. I'm bridgerd Weineger. We are, of course in the backyard. What's going on? I mean, that's one thing I can't stop thinking about is the leftover soup I have in the fridge. I am dying to eat it for dinner. I've been basically since I woke up this morning. I've been thinking about it, and I'm an hour, hour and a half away from reheating the soup. I'm so and I this may it might sound like I'm exaggerating, I'm Unfortunately, I'm not. This is something I've been looking forward to. So that's what I have. At the other end of this podcast, we got to get through it. The guests today, I adore. It's Emily Heller. Hello, Emily, Welcome to. I said, no gifts. 00:01:34 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, thank you for having me. What kind of soup is that? 00:01:38 Speaker 2: It's It's Tom yum. Oh soup, are you familiar? 00:01:42 Speaker 3: I love tom Yum. 00:01:43 Speaker 2: I think I've talked about it on this podcast before. I was trying to get you know, a wave going of people eating this soup. I don't know that I had much of an impact. 00:01:53 Speaker 4: Soup is so divisive, Like have you ever met someone who's just like I don't eat soup in general? 00:01:58 Speaker 2: People have take a real strong stance. 00:02:02 Speaker 3: It's very weird. 00:02:03 Speaker 4: But I will say I have been rewatching Seinfeld very often. I mean not very often, but you know, occasionally when I'm high, because we just been watching it before bed and we watched the Soup Nazi episode and I was so high and I was just like, all of that soup sounds so good. I would kill for soup right now. So when you were talking about that, I was like, I totally get it. That needs no justification, thank you. 00:02:32 Speaker 2: I have. 00:02:32 Speaker 4: I feel like I watched that episode high a week ago, and I haven't had really good soup since then. So I feel like I have an itch that is still unscratched. 00:02:41 Speaker 2: What kind of soups is he serving in the episode. 00:02:45 Speaker 4: So there's a mullagatani, there's a crab bisk and I know there's another one, but I can't remember. 00:02:53 Speaker 2: See when you say crab bisk. Something I've realized about soup for me personally recently is when seafood meets cream, I can't get into it. Clam chowder a crab biss. 00:03:05 Speaker 3: That's fair, and I don't eat seafood. I don't care. 00:03:09 Speaker 4: I don't like it, and so for some reason, it's all just theoretical crab bisk To me, it's all just like make believe best tasting, Like there's no reality entering into how much I want to eat the soup. 00:03:23 Speaker 2: I mean, soup is in l a kind of hard to come come by, Like it's kind of an afterthought at every restaurant. I mean, I guess if you like, if you wanted like a fire, yes, obviously Tomiam is wonderful what you can get that. 00:03:38 Speaker 4: A ti restaurant, got some good ramen places, yes, but it's like outside of that, we don't have aside from like, yes, ethnically. 00:03:48 Speaker 2: Specific soups, there's not like a soup restaurant. 00:03:51 Speaker 4: It's never really no, no one's ever really like in a soup mood here. But there also isn't like because it's hot that's why. That's because it's hot, but it's also we don't have like a big gaspacho culture either. 00:04:03 Speaker 2: Right, and then that would explain that. Yeah. I mean think I'm not a gaspacho eater in any weather, so I wouldn't be like hunting down the gaspat show buffet or what have you. But I could go for like a little soup chain. Well, we had soup plans. 00:04:21 Speaker 4: He did have soup plantation, but they were they were da right. You can't call your restaurants sup plantation. It's crazy that that ever exists. It really sounds like a fake TV show restaurant. 00:04:35 Speaker 2: And for it lasted such a long time with a bad name and as far as I could tell, questionable quality. So what was drawing what. 00:04:44 Speaker 3: Was drawing people in? 00:04:45 Speaker 4: I feel like people went there for the buffet, But I I'm really speaking out of my ass now because I don't know a single person who's ever eaten there. 00:04:53 Speaker 2: I do know one friend who had kind of an odd uh. He knew everything about the place. He knew a when the deals were happening. 00:05:01 Speaker 4: Oh, he was on the mailing list and actually opened the emails. He was the one person that the mail Chimp was like, we got him. 00:05:13 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's never went, but I guess I'll never go. I think they're completely gone, aren't they. 00:05:19 Speaker 3: It really makes you think. 00:05:22 Speaker 4: There are some chain restaurants you should visit before it's two ways. 00:05:25 Speaker 2: No, absolutely, they could be gone before you know it, and you'll live with regret. 00:05:30 Speaker 3: What do you think is the next one that's going to go down? 00:05:33 Speaker 2: Oh? What is the next one? I mean, it's wild to me that Sizzler's still around. 00:05:37 Speaker 3: I know, yeah, Sizzler doesn't shouldn't still be around. 00:05:39 Speaker 2: And they're over there in Atwater Village, I believe for Glendale, you know what, that. 00:05:44 Speaker 4: Is the last restaurant I ate ut before the pandemic. What I hate there for a podcast and it was so disgusting, and it was also was like we knew COVID was happening, and I was like, this feels. 00:05:57 Speaker 3: Wronger than it even would have otherwise. 00:06:00 Speaker 2: But I mean that was a good last day, I mean because they could have gone away very easily. 00:06:04 Speaker 4: Yeah, and then and then I would have And you know what, Sizzler does hold like a special place in my heart because when I was a kid, for some reason, my parents took us there kind of a lot. I think it was the restaurant we went to the most often, and I remember just really picking out on those. 00:06:20 Speaker 3: Ham cubes from salad Bar. I really loved those. 00:06:24 Speaker 2: We went to Siszler all the time. Well, it was like a special occasion. I remember going for like a birthday maybe in fifth grade, and they had like a taco bar, but there was no meat, and so I filled a taco with bacon bits, which is one of the faulting things I can possibly imagine. Children are bad people. 00:06:42 Speaker 4: Children are bad people. They shouldn't have access to a buffet. 00:06:45 Speaker 1: No. 00:06:46 Speaker 4: I was at Sizzler when I watched a kid pick his nose and then reach his hand into the like tray of chicken nuggets or something, and all of the gears in my mind started shifting where I was like, I think, everything that's at this kid's arm level, I shouldn't eat, And that's everything that you tire so far. 00:07:11 Speaker 2: They don't have like an area that you have to you access by a ladder, so all child it was. 00:07:17 Speaker 3: All child level. 00:07:18 Speaker 4: This. Yeah, that was a bad moment. I wish I hadn't. I hadn't seen. 00:07:23 Speaker 2: Your last trip to Sizzler, Like what was your meal? What did that look like? God? 00:07:28 Speaker 3: What did I have? 00:07:30 Speaker 2: Oh? 00:07:30 Speaker 3: Man, I should remember this. I mean, this is why you should be. 00:07:35 Speaker 4: Journaling every day. I just had like a bunch of random crap from the from the buffet. 00:07:43 Speaker 2: Wasn't good? 00:07:44 Speaker 3: I want I wanted to order one of the like meals. 00:07:48 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:07:48 Speaker 2: You know that's the weird thing about sister. You kind of order a meal and then you get the salad bar with the meal. Yeah. 00:07:54 Speaker 4: I think I maybe ordered like a pasta or something and it was not it was Oh wait, No, I had a grilled cheese. 00:08:01 Speaker 2: Is this good? 00:08:01 Speaker 3: Is this good radio? 00:08:02 Speaker 2: This is excellent radio. This is award winning radio. A grilled cheese outside of the buffet. 00:08:10 Speaker 3: Yes. 00:08:11 Speaker 4: Yeah, Because I think I was still thinking about that kid picking. 00:08:14 Speaker 3: His nose from when I was six years old. 00:08:17 Speaker 2: I have to imagine the grilled cheese was okay. If they made a bad grilled cheese, then the entire chain should be pushed into the ocean. 00:08:24 Speaker 3: It was fine. 00:08:25 Speaker 4: It was like drenched in butter, like top to bottom, just sort of like crystalline, you know what I mean. 00:08:33 Speaker 2: It's like brock candy. 00:08:35 Speaker 4: The entire all of the bread is like translucent from the butter. I'm not complaining about it, but it did turn it extra sort of like sharp, you know what I mean, like fried and sharp. And somehow the cheese wasn't totally melted, so they did kind of screw it up. That's what they should go down. 00:08:55 Speaker 2: It's crazy that they didn't during the pandemic. They kind of pivoted it into to a takeout business, which does not make any sense to me. 00:09:03 Speaker 4: Who is getting takeout from? I mean nothing, nothing makes sense in this world. They must have somehow, just I think maybe because they've been around so long, very low overhead, right, you know, they've just had to do it submarket rent on the or they own. 00:09:19 Speaker 2: They may they have. They've probably moved out of the leasing game. All of those Sissler restaurants are permanent Sissler locations. 00:09:26 Speaker 3: What we really need is we need to get in touch with the COO. 00:09:32 Speaker 2: They have kind of a knowledge of the well, the former Sissler COEO. 00:09:37 Speaker 3: Because you are always dropping this name. 00:09:39 Speaker 2: Look at this, Look at this. I'm about to show Emily my desktop background. 00:09:44 Speaker 3: Yes, and all your emails. 00:09:47 Speaker 2: Now I've got all of my tabs open. How humiliating. I'm exing out I'm exing out. I'm exing out of outfit ideas. Oh god, what have I done? 00:09:55 Speaker 4: Oh? Your desktop very upsetting. I just want to look at this, listener, need to know that it is just, you know, wall to wall. Every single square inch of that's free has a an icon or a folder on it. 00:10:11 Speaker 3: There is no unused. 00:10:14 Speaker 2: I don't know what's happened. Look at this. Oh it is the former COO. This is my desktop wallpaper of Sisler, And for legal reasons, I'm not entirely sure he's getting in front of the soup. Yes, this is Kerry Cramp, Gary Cramp, Carry Cramp, Carrie Cramp and he I can't remember why he's no longer the Sizzler CEO. But this has been my desk top wallpaper since maybe twenty thirteen. Wow, I found this wall I can't even remember what I was googling, but I somehow came upon that wallpaper and it was like ultra HD. It's the like the highest resolution image I had ever seen. You could like zoom in and see individual pores on Carrie's face. So I had to make it my wallpaper and it hasn't changed since. 00:10:56 Speaker 3: But that's why you don't remember why you ended up on his LinkedIn. 00:11:01 Speaker 2: Or god knows why I was looking. 00:11:03 Speaker 3: You're trying to poach him for your. 00:11:06 Speaker 2: Restaurant, for my new concept, my new salad bar concept. Yeah, yeah, so I do know a ladder. I actually want to talk to you about two TV shows that you've I've noticed you've been tweeting about. Okay, first, I feel like, first we should talk about Bakeoff. 00:11:23 Speaker 3: Yeah, we should talk about Base. 00:11:24 Speaker 2: I'm a few behind, Okay, I've only just recently watched the Mexican episode. 00:11:29 Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, that was a hate crime because a lot of we all know about the Mexican episode at this point, right, they called guacamole glackymolo. I got to it after all of the you know, so you were bracing yourself. I was bracing myself in the biggest possible way. Yeah, and I mean, there are some insane things. 00:11:50 Speaker 3: That happen, but it's not as it's not like it's. 00:11:54 Speaker 2: Not what I expected, right, Yeah. I expected it to be like, oh, they're gonna have to delete this, But I got to it. I was like, well, let's talk. Was look horrible, Like no one knows what a refried bean is in the UK. Yeah. Paul's pronunciation of a variety of words was bonkers. 00:12:11 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I want to say they kept saying a trey leche cake, oh yes, instead of trace leches. It was very that was upsetting to me as someone who is currently doing duo lingo. 00:12:22 Speaker 2: You're currently doing duo link. 00:12:23 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm I'm trying with Spanish. With Spanish, I'm trying to refresh. 00:12:28 Speaker 2: Did you take it in high school? 00:12:29 Speaker 4: I took it in middle school and high school. Okay, I dropped it senior year of high school because one day I didn't do the homework and I was like, I don't want to deal with the consequences of this, so I am dropping Spanish. But it's like I took it for long enough that like I would still when I had the opportunity to practice it, I would be surprised at how much I remembered. And I was like, and also, my next door neighbors speak Spanish, and I want to be able to speak to them more, you know, because we've got a lot of you know, shared issues being living. 00:13:03 Speaker 3: Next door to each other. 00:13:05 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:13:06 Speaker 4: And I had been texting with my next door neighbor and she and I know that she speaks Spanish much better than English, and I was like, I'll just try and text her in Spanish as much as I possibly can, and eventually I would just start like looking it up on Google Translate, but I would want. 00:13:24 Speaker 3: To know the things that I was, you know. 00:13:26 Speaker 4: And then like a month ago, the two of us were having a meeting with someone else. That's very complicated, but at a certain point it came out that I had not been texting with her. I had been texting with her daughter, who is fully bilingual. And she was like, oh, yeah, that's not my number, that's my daughter's number. 00:13:43 Speaker 3: She just tells me the messages. 00:13:45 Speaker 4: I was like, oh, so I did not need to be texting in Spanish. She was like, no, you did not. But we were all very impressed. And I did not own up to the fact that I had been using Google Translate. 00:13:56 Speaker 3: So I am trying to make my lie a true. 00:14:00 Speaker 4: I'm trying to right backwards, make it so that I know enough Spanish to have texted that fluently. 00:14:07 Speaker 2: It's not a bad idea to trap yourself in like an aspirational thing, tell everyone that you're good at it, and then have to do it. 00:14:13 Speaker 4: Yeah, just sign up to perform at Carnegie Hall and then start taking Pane lessons. 00:14:22 Speaker 2: Wow, that's amazing. Does does Duolingo feel like it's an effective teaching tool? 00:14:26 Speaker 4: I don't think so, and I honestly think I just read an article that was like, duo Lingo is not as good as some of the other ones, and I was like, well, I'm I'm gamified it enough where I'm like, well, I have a streak. I have a streak going, so I might do one of the other ones. But anyway, bakeoff, Yeah, that's. 00:14:43 Speaker 2: What I know. I'm like, I want to talk about bakeoff ten seconds and I'm. 00:14:47 Speaker 3: Like, let's talk about it. 00:14:49 Speaker 2: No, bake off, bakeoff. So we're currently like, I think I'm probably four behind at this point. Oh wow, Well. 00:14:56 Speaker 4: There was the Mexican Week and then there was the Halloween one right after that. 00:14:59 Speaker 2: Oh so that's it. 00:15:00 Speaker 3: You're only yeah, you're only one episode behind. 00:15:03 Speaker 2: Okay, and Halloween? How was that? 00:15:05 Speaker 4: Halloween was a problem for me because Okay, so there were first of all, there was no there was no pumpkin at any point in any of it. They didn't do any pumpkin act, you know, challenges, right, it was a signature was an apple cake because they're like, you know you bob for apples on Halloween. 00:15:26 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no no. The last time someone bob for an apple was nineteen seventy nine. This is kids are drowning. Did you ever do it when you were a kid. I feel like it was like at a church activity once. 00:15:38 Speaker 4: It is so unpleasant. Of course, it's your waterboarding yourself. It's like horrible and. 00:15:45 Speaker 2: No one's mouth is that big. 00:15:46 Speaker 4: No, and then you're just like you're just I mean, that's one of those things where it's like COVID has ended apple bobbing forever. 00:15:53 Speaker 2: Of course, okay, and. 00:15:55 Speaker 4: Then so then the the thing that really made me upset was the the tech Nickel Challenge was s'mores. And the s'mores that they presented were round like they were like you make a round marsh marshmallow between two round digestive biscuits with chocolate. Ganash and Paul Hollywood kept saying like, and it. 00:16:17 Speaker 3: Has to be neat as a pin. And it's like, no, that's you eat s'mores with dirty, dirty fingers. 00:16:24 Speaker 4: That's that is cannon. 00:16:27 Speaker 2: You know it, like your hands are going to be filed. Your hands are already filthy and they're gonna be even dirty or after you read it, yes, and you sqush it down. 00:16:35 Speaker 3: That's the whole. 00:16:36 Speaker 4: And you have to have way more gram cracker than the marshmallow because you push it down. But the way they did it was it was like a tall ass two inch marshmallow that went right to the edge of the cookie, so if you squeezed it down it would. 00:16:51 Speaker 2: Have just fall out. It was very upsetting. It's not recognizable. It is a smore to me. 00:16:57 Speaker 4: And also s'mores are not for Halloween. They're they're like weird way of connecting it was they were like more, which you might eat sitting around a campfire telling scary stories, which it was like a stretch and then a stretch no, And then the showstopper was. 00:17:15 Speaker 1: M you. 00:17:16 Speaker 4: They had to make a hanging lantern dessert and there was like a jackal lantern, but not a jackal lantern. 00:17:24 Speaker 2: And why hanging So correct me if I'm wrong, but this the hanging ends up being there's there are items that are part of the cake that are not that. 00:17:32 Speaker 3: Are inedible, like hooks and stuff. 00:17:34 Speaker 2: This is the show. This is why we've got to get rid of the show. Stop around entirely, because every time I'm like, most of that it's not even edible. What what are we doing? This is now a sculpture competition. 00:17:44 Speaker 4: I do like when they're like it's you have to make a cake with a bunch of different layers, and then I'm like, ooh, I'd eat that, right And they did one that I was like, I know this makes it sound like I smoke so much pot and I don't, but I was like, I would definitely want to eat that. They had one that was like the do you remember when they did the like I forget what it's called. 00:18:03 Speaker 3: It's like a schmrgen. 00:18:05 Speaker 4: Torten or whatever, like savory sandwich, the savory sandwich case, yes, where it's just like cream cheese and like tomatoes and stuff and just like a bunch of savory stuff. And I was like, I want that. I want that right now, and I know it probably does not taste as good as it looks. 00:18:21 Speaker 2: Those things were mortifying to me. The idea of like and they do this at least once a season where it's just like here's a bunch of wet meat in between pastry. The British have. That's one thing that they get wrong every time. 00:18:34 Speaker 4: I mean, it's really remarkable that we are all enthralled by a show about British food, and I think it is telling that the best winners of that show are like, you know, last year it was like an Italian guy. It's always have a thick non British. 00:18:53 Speaker 2: It's not like a Scottish gun. No, let me ask you this. Do you feel like the equality of Bake been getting worse over the years or better? 00:19:02 Speaker 3: Like you think maybe they're running out of people? 00:19:04 Speaker 2: Yes, I absolutely or my memory is just like gotten too because I've now been watching it since twenty sixteen, probably, and I remember the baker's being really good. 00:19:15 Speaker 4: You know what I think happens though, I think by the end of the season they're all better, and I think you remember them when they're like done learning on the show, right, and they really like to reward people for getting better on the show. I think what's gonna happen is by the end of the season, all of those bakers are going to be better. 00:19:36 Speaker 2: Interesting. I also I do think that they're doing a little bit more stunt casting where they'll bring in somebody they're like, this person's pretty bad, and they're probably going to be bad the entire time, don't you think. I feel like there are people are like, you have no business being on a baking. 00:19:50 Speaker 3: Show, right, It always stresses me out so hard. Do you remember Toby? 00:19:55 Speaker 4: He's my favorite contestant on any reality show ever? 00:19:58 Speaker 2: What did he do? 00:20:00 Speaker 4: He was on he was the first person eliminated from like season six. 00:20:03 Speaker 3: Or something, and it was like he just had. 00:20:07 Speaker 4: The worst weekend of anyone in the tenth ever where it was like he puts salt instead of sugar in one of his bakes, and just as the day went on, just more and more band aids started appearing on his fingers. 00:20:20 Speaker 3: By the end, his fans were just covered. 00:20:23 Speaker 2: That sounds vaguely familiar to me, and that kind of disproves my theory. I guess season six that's a long time, I. 00:20:29 Speaker 3: Mean, and he got eliminated right away, but it is. 00:20:34 Speaker 4: I do feel like we're in a weird mid season low where the challenges are harder than the bakers are up to. 00:20:40 Speaker 2: Right, But I think they're gonna pull out of it. Do you have a pick of who's going to win? I don't know. 00:20:46 Speaker 4: So much changes in the last few weeks. I'm never right about who's gonna win. But I do have like who I want to be in the final three. Oh, and I don't know. 00:20:59 Speaker 2: If I should say it's up to you. That's I mean, that's obviously a very private piece of information. 00:21:05 Speaker 4: I want Shabira Yanush and Sandro okay. 00:21:11 Speaker 2: And I don't know anyone's name on the show. I know there's the lady with pink hair. I know there's the lady who worked for Boris Johnson, which really was a letdown. Immediately. 00:21:20 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was like, oh, I have to root against you for the entire season. 00:21:24 Speaker 2: And I was so on board with her. I was like, this lady's gonna be great, and then she used that piece of information. It's like, oh no. 00:21:29 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it's like, oh, you aren't good at baking because you can't sleep at night? 00:21:34 Speaker 3: Is that why? 00:21:35 Speaker 2: I mean? I try initias like maybe she was like kind of a reluctant civil servant that was kind of trapped in the system, but then eventually needed to tell. 00:21:43 Speaker 4: Us that, right, that was the case, but they didn't, and so we have to assume the worst because we're Americans, we're not British. 00:21:53 Speaker 2: But yeah, I feel like there's the woman who is Malaysian, who's I think it's love her. 00:22:00 Speaker 3: I love her. 00:22:01 Speaker 4: She's so good, she's so good, but she's stumbled enough that I would believe her arc winning it right, right. They never I feel like whenever there's a front runner, like what was that Jurgen, it was like Jurgen didn't win because he was just perfect out of the gate and just did so well. 00:22:17 Speaker 3: And then when he started to stumble, it was like he. 00:22:19 Speaker 2: Came in over prepared but didn't have it. Didn't couldn't. 00:22:22 Speaker 4: She didn't grow on the show. They want they like a comeback. I think Shabira could go all the way because she also just has like yeah, it does such interesting stuff and is very charming. 00:22:33 Speaker 3: And then jan USh is the Polish guy. 00:22:35 Speaker 2: Oh of course I love her. 00:22:37 Speaker 4: Yeah, Yanush is great and he's doing very well and he's funny, and I think like him and Matt Lucas have good banter. That's like the only time when I actually really like watching Matt Lucas on the show is when he's talking to Yanush. The rest of the time, I'm like not having a good time. 00:22:51 Speaker 2: With him this season. 00:22:52 Speaker 4: But uh, and then Sandro is that like he's I want to say, he's like from Switzerland and he's like tall, like really muscly. Yeah yeah, with the like shaved lines and his eyebrows. 00:23:05 Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like I may have just learned that his last name is Farmhouse, but I could be wrong. I'm gonna look that. 00:23:11 Speaker 3: It sounds like something you dreamed. 00:23:15 Speaker 2: Remind me of his first name, Sandro. 00:23:18 Speaker 5: I mean, the internet's working a little slow right now, but immediately the first thing I put into Google was Sandro Farmhouse and it auto populated with shirtless right after. 00:23:27 Speaker 4: So that's definitely him. His name is Sandro Farmhouse. All right, sure, fine, okay, Britain. Do you ever watch Toast of London? I love I love London, but whenever something that I like, that's a Toast of London, it's a sand farmhouse. 00:23:43 Speaker 2: Of course. 00:23:44 Speaker 3: We stayed in a. 00:23:45 Speaker 4: Hotel in West Virginia a few months ago and on the wall there was like, you know, like it was like a tennis It was like a big golf resort, and so there was like a thing down in the like one of the game room that was like the activities director and his name was Josh Beveridge, And I was like that is the most the most toast of London name I've ever seen in a while. 00:24:12 Speaker 2: I was going through my notesapp recently and at some point in the past I had written down a character name that I really want to use at some point, Nords from Brunette, which I think is a perfect name. 00:24:22 Speaker 3: That's a very that's a very good name. 00:24:24 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, okay, so we've taught I mentioned I want to talk about two TV shows. The other one I'm so far behind at this point. Sister Wives. Oh yes, I watched for a while. 00:24:36 Speaker 3: They dropped out for like ten seasons or something, right. 00:24:39 Speaker 2: Yes, but now it's been recently re recommended to me. Or it's like you have to see what's going. 00:24:43 Speaker 3: On because one of the wives is leaving. 00:24:46 Speaker 2: Yes, and they're filming the whole thing themselves or something. 00:24:48 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so it's very weird. So okay, Sister Wives. 00:24:51 Speaker 4: If you don't know, is that TLC reality show that they came out with, Like as soon as the show Big Love came out on HBO, that was it's about a polygamist and his. 00:25:05 Speaker 3: Three then four wives. 00:25:06 Speaker 4: I think like season one he was courting his fourth wife, and it's there in season seventeen, now and one of his. 00:25:14 Speaker 3: Wives is leaving him. 00:25:16 Speaker 4: But I think they filmed this season like a year ago because that with COVID protocols and everything, like there's a bunch of scenes that they're just filming themselves on their phone. 00:25:25 Speaker 2: It's weird. 00:25:26 Speaker 4: It's very weird, and it's also honestly pretty surprising. I think COVID is what ended that marriage because and in a very surprising way, because obviously Cody Brown, who's the husband who's like the biggest douche in the world looking man, alive, scariest looking man with the most like upsetting attachment to his horrible hair, and he is clearly like a very conservative, like ex Mormon, but like because the Mormon were too progressive for him, and like very much full of shit, horrible man. But like he's the one in the family who's like, I do not want to get COVID. 00:26:12 Speaker 2: Isn't that episodic? It's so weird? So have you been watching it? I'm like, I've only watched I think the first episode of this new season, and it's weird. Like, yeah, do you think he's really cautious because he's also not vaccinated. 00:26:24 Speaker 3: I think he's vaccinated. 00:26:25 Speaker 4: The way I talked about it is that, yeah, like I think he's vaccinated. I think he just had a weird moment of clarity about it. 00:26:33 Speaker 2: But it's also weird because. 00:26:35 Speaker 4: It's like, dude, you have eighteen children at least or something like, I don't know how you are. But also it seems like maybe I do think that his wives who did not want to follow his protocols were like some of them were wrong, and we're probably taking risks than like they shouldn't. But I also think he was maybe using it as an excuse to spend more time at Robin's house because that's his favorite life. 00:27:02 Speaker 2: And Robin is the newest wife. 00:27:04 Speaker 3: She's the newest wife. 00:27:05 Speaker 4: Yeah, and the one who's divorcing him is Christine. 00:27:10 Speaker 3: And it's so weird because it's like I just have I've like completely. 00:27:15 Speaker 4: Forgot about this show for a really long time, and then I was like, I need to check in. 00:27:19 Speaker 2: And here. 00:27:20 Speaker 4: The great thing about this show is you really can check in at any point. You'll never miss anything because if anything interesting happens, they will tell you about it in every episode over and over again, before and after every commercial break, and they'll show you flashbacks to the other episode, like there is no reason to You do not need to be like a a religious viewer of them, like it is. They'll catch you up if anything happens. 00:27:48 Speaker 2: Yes, one thing happens a season. Thank god, something happened. If we have to talk about this as much as humably. 00:27:53 Speaker 4: Fall, Yes, But yeah, Christine left in part because like he wasn't spending time with her and her children, but also he told her that he was never attracted to her and that he was kind of talked into marrying her like other people in the church, like because she was from like a good, you know, polygamist family. 00:28:15 Speaker 3: And I'm really enjoying watching her leave him. 00:28:19 Speaker 4: Because it's the thing that you've been asking all of them to do this entire time, because he's not he doesn't deserve four wives, and he's like the least desirable person on earth. 00:28:29 Speaker 2: Yes, his face looks like he's just been standing in a wind tunnel for ten years. It's so much beaten. 00:28:34 Speaker 4: You know what's fucked up, though, is they'll show like photos of him at their weddings and I'm like, he was hot. 00:28:44 Speaker 2: He was hot. 00:28:46 Speaker 4: I mean it's like before he got the goatee, but he was like a good looking blonde football player, just like classic corn fed American white guy. Right, and then just somehow he like all of the ways in which he's bad looking are just the things that he chose for his. 00:29:07 Speaker 3: Own head, you know what I mean. Like none of it has to do with his natural gifts. 00:29:12 Speaker 4: It's all like I picked the worst facial hair and the worst hairstyle, and I tan too much. Like all of it is stuff that you can hold him directly responsible. 00:29:22 Speaker 2: Just looks like a mask and wig at this point, it's so bizarre. Show me him for Halloween. 00:29:26 Speaker 4: I don't have a costume yet. Oh, it would be really upset. 00:29:30 Speaker 2: It would require it would require like a bald cap and a wig. Strange. 00:29:35 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's one of those things where it's like he in his confessionals always looks like he has more hair than he actually does because he refuses to be seen in profile and the confessionals, and he like. 00:29:45 Speaker 3: Parts his hair in a very particular way. 00:29:47 Speaker 4: It's oh man, yeah really, but I'm glad that you're watching it. 00:29:52 Speaker 3: I didn't think anyone else was watching. 00:29:54 Speaker 2: I'm glad to have an excuse to watch it again. Oh yeah, I'm back with Cody the gang. 00:29:58 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's a bummer because it's like, I would love to be rooting more for Christine leaving, but it's like her exit plan is just being in a bunch of MLMs and like, and you know, it works if you're on TV and you can get like a million idiots in your downline. 00:30:18 Speaker 2: But like, oh, it's really upset the choices these people are making. 00:30:23 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm like, you're making the right choice for the wrong reason where it's like you're leaving Cody over COVID. 00:30:28 Speaker 2: Like that's the thing that was your life to say, good choices made. Yeah, the one. 00:30:34 Speaker 3: Thing he did right in this entire marriage. 00:30:38 Speaker 2: Oh, okay, so we've got I'm so glad we were able to cover those two topics. 00:30:42 Speaker 4: Yeah, very important. I'm really happy to speak to you about both of them. 00:30:46 Speaker 2: Yeah, both beautiful things. Unfortunately I have to hit the brakes for something less pleasant. Oh no, Emily, the podcast is called I said no Gifts, right. I was so excited for you to be here. I the last time I saw you, you were actually here in the backyard taking a donut home to Peter. That's true. 00:31:04 Speaker 4: Yeah, went over huge, by the way, last time I was here I had just left the house after eating dinner and I had asked my husband what he wanted for dinner, and he jokingly said donuts, and then we ate something else. And then I came here and there were donuts here and I was like, I'm going to bring one of these home and it's gonna be such a huge hit. 00:31:24 Speaker 3: And it got a laugh. 00:31:25 Speaker 2: It's a good donut. 00:31:26 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a good donut dough and he he didn't need it that day. He had the next day, but it was like, but he did acknowledge it was a good bit. I was very dramatic and revealing it to him. 00:31:36 Speaker 2: But yeah, that was a nice time in the backyard with you. I thought this was gonna be a nice time and then I see you come up the driveway holding a bag. Yeah, I'm just going to call a spade a spade. This is a gift for me, is it not? 00:31:53 Speaker 4: It I want to dance around it, but I am really out of shape. It is a gift for you, but it's it's not for today, it's for a different It's for because it's for your birthday. It's a birthday present. So this is unrelated to the podcast. I did not bring you a gift for the podcast. 00:32:16 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 00:32:17 Speaker 4: But it's a really bad coincidence that it that it arrived. 00:32:21 Speaker 2: Now, your timing couldn't be worse. 00:32:23 Speaker 3: No, it really could not. 00:32:25 Speaker 2: I mean it could have had you ejected from the show. 00:32:28 Speaker 4: Yeah, And you know what I thought about that when I was driving here, and I was like, but I have it now, and I have to get it out of my car. My car is just tacked to the wall, the wall with other items and other gifts that I'm delivering. 00:32:42 Speaker 2: You're in the middle of a movie. 00:32:44 Speaker 3: I'm doing a little bit. 00:32:46 Speaker 4: I'm in my Santa Fez of Adulthood right now, where I just sort of traveling around delivering presents to people. I'm working on the outfit to build classic red and white, but it feels like a lot of other motifs have already been claimed, so I'm open to suggestions. 00:33:08 Speaker 2: Okay, well then, I mean, that's nice, it's unconventional, it's a nice surprise. It is for my birthday, which was It's sometimes passed since my birthday, which is unfortunate. But I'm happy to open it here on the podcast. 00:33:21 Speaker 6: I think that's a good idea. 00:33:39 Speaker 2: Okay, let's get into it. It's a rather tall bag. 00:33:42 Speaker 4: Yeah, I will admit that this is a gift bag that has been in my family for generations. This has been going in and out of my gift wrapping tepperware for years. 00:33:56 Speaker 2: I support that fully. 00:33:58 Speaker 3: Me and my husband just hand it to each other every few months. 00:34:01 Speaker 2: I feel like, if you get a decent, like quality gift bag, use it as long as possible. 00:34:05 Speaker 3: Yeah. What, there was a tradition in my family. 00:34:09 Speaker 4: But it was like my grandmother got remarried when I was eight, and so I got like a new grandpa and he had a bunch of you know, kids and grandkids, and they had their own family traditions that we were brought in on, and one of them was that his late wife, who he was married to before my grandmother had made this gift wrap box. So she had taken like a like a wardrobe box and covered it like she had upholstered it basically in well, no, it's like she had sewn like a cloth cover with like a ribbon. 00:34:44 Speaker 3: And it became a game in their family. 00:34:47 Speaker 4: That every year at Christmas, whoever got a gift in that box was the loser and had to hold onto the box for their next year. 00:34:56 Speaker 3: And I really, I really like. 00:34:59 Speaker 2: That beautiful w to keep her memory alive. 00:35:01 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I never met her. This is all I knew about her. 00:35:06 Speaker 2: That sort of thing sounds almost like a cursed box. 00:35:11 Speaker 3: Yeah, I like. 00:35:12 Speaker 4: I like a family tradition where everyone just sort of points and laughs on someone every year. 00:35:17 Speaker 2: I think you have to hang on to it for an entire year. Yes, yeah, I think I love reusable wrap. 00:35:23 Speaker 4: This one is maybe not going to be reasonable much longer. I have noticed something. 00:35:27 Speaker 2: Like it probably could be ironed at this point. It's a little wrinkly, but yes, it's a gift bag. Nonetheless, I'm going to reach in. 00:35:34 Speaker 4: Okay, be careful with I'm going to pull one of the things out because it needs to remain in a certain position. 00:35:42 Speaker 3: But you can take the other thing out. 00:35:44 Speaker 2: Okay, take this out first, Yeah, okay taking out what? This is such a foreign object. 00:35:54 Speaker 4: This is easily the item I have gifted most because it is, in my opinion, dollar for dollar, the most valuable thing I've ever bought. 00:36:04 Speaker 3: It is the Carson bug View. 00:36:06 Speaker 4: It is a one handed bug catcher and magnifier. So you know the concept of like putting a cup over above and then sliding a paper underneath it. 00:36:16 Speaker 3: Right, this does that but with one hand. 00:36:18 Speaker 4: Oh this is and so you hold it and you it's got a little thumb thing, and you put it over the bug, and then you slide your thumb with the same hand that's holding it. And then once it's trapped, you can look at it through the magnifying glass on the chamber. But then the best part about it is once it's trapped and you take it outside. It's also shaped like a lacrosse stick, so when you open it you can get some really good air flinging theme across the yard. 00:36:48 Speaker 2: How did you learn of this object? 00:36:49 Speaker 3: I saw it on a gift guide. Really, I was looking. 00:36:52 Speaker 4: I mean, so I'm an ant and I have I have no idea what children like, and so every year for birthdays and Christmas, I'm looking up gifts four x year old, gifts for four year olds, and so this I saw on a on a list for like gifts for kids for Christmas, and I was like, I want that for me. 00:37:16 Speaker 2: This is fully for adults and we use it all the time. What have you caught in yours? 00:37:21 Speaker 4: Just any bug that's in the house, like just I mean, it's really exciting to use it on flies, because that's that's hunting. 00:37:30 Speaker 2: You're able to How are you? You have to be so fast? 00:37:34 Speaker 4: I feel like for them you have to wait for them to land on the window to die. 00:37:41 Speaker 3: I mean spiders are easy. Spiders are easy. 00:37:46 Speaker 4: I feel like I've used it on Those are the two main ones. Any like big flying bug that stops. If you can just slowly creep toward it, you can you can trap it. 00:37:59 Speaker 3: But yeah, it's one. It's indispensable. It is. 00:38:02 Speaker 4: My husband really wanted me to say this. It's called the Carson bug you because you can look at some really weird wild stuff in it. And I have fulfilled my contractual obligation to say that he invented. 00:38:18 Speaker 2: Has there been any particular bug that's been interesting under like really interesting under the magnifying glass. No, they've all sucked. 00:38:30 Speaker 3: I mean. 00:38:30 Speaker 4: The thing is, it's like the idea for kids is like you're supposed to take it out in your yard and like find some, but I mostly just do it for bugs I want to get rid of. 00:38:40 Speaker 2: Okay, So are you someone who's scared of bugs when they're around the house, spiders, that sort of thing, or doesn't really bother you. 00:38:47 Speaker 4: It's more that, like, as someone with some minor hoarding tendencies, I know that I cannot accustom myself to their presence or soon it'll be out of control, right, you know what I mean, Like I nip it in the bud, otherwise I'll I'll stop seeing them. 00:39:07 Speaker 2: Get cozy with the bugs, and suddenly we have a problem. 00:39:10 Speaker 4: We're like our house is just like not sealed in any place like zone. There's a few places in the house where you can sort of see the outside kind of through the wall, and you shouldn't be able to and so we have a bug problem. 00:39:25 Speaker 3: And so it's it's just like we're constantly you know. 00:39:33 Speaker 2: No, I'm not particularly scared of bugs. Jim my boyfriend is terrified of almost all of them. So I have to take care of the situation all the time. Okay, this is going to be perfect for me. Oh good? Yeah. 00:39:44 Speaker 4: I mean I will say, like, I'm not afraid of bugs. 00:39:49 Speaker 3: I find them a little gross and intrusive. 00:39:52 Speaker 4: I think my husband gets like angrier at them being in the house, Like he has like a salt gun that he'll sho them with, and just like he gets like I think a little bit more frustrated than I do. 00:40:05 Speaker 3: But I think I'm also just grosser than he is. 00:40:08 Speaker 2: In general. When I see a bug in the house, I feel like it's like a failure on my part. I'm like, oh, I've allowed my house to become dirty. I'm like, now I'm a slob. That's the immediate feeling I have anytime I see a bug where I'm like, yeah, oh, now I've really left. 00:40:25 Speaker 4: There's a part of me where I'm like, I have to get rid of it before he sees that there's a bug in here, because then he'll know I'm gross. 00:40:32 Speaker 2: What's your stance on killing a bug? I've done it quite a bit. 00:40:40 Speaker 4: The thing I do like about the Carson bug view is it gives you another alternative to easily get them out of the house without killing them. I do wonder sometimes, like why I feel comfortable killing bugs right like I shouldn't. But then I'm also I'm like, their brains are like that big? How much how much true? Like you know, spirit and intelligence? Am I really snuffing out? 00:41:08 Speaker 3: Not that much? 00:41:09 Speaker 2: And also as a gardener, I kill so many huge gardens. They're the enemy right there, after all of your plants. 00:41:15 Speaker 4: They are, And the other day I was in I don't have a garden right now because we're doing construction and we're like, we're building something where my garden was, and it's the whole thing. But so I started volunteering at a community garden and the other day we were getting ready to like plant in one of their beds, and we just like it had just been sitting there for I didn't know how long. It was very dry, and so we just like started spraying it with water to get ready to plant there, and just millions of ants, all of them carrying eggs, pouring out of the ground, just. 00:41:47 Speaker 3: Like, oh I do, what do I do? 00:41:49 Speaker 4: Just like panicking and like running around where it was just like the whole thing was covered, and I just got the bottle of neem oil and I just sprayed until they were all dead. And I was like, this is the most I've ever killed in one day of any day of my life. 00:42:04 Speaker 2: You're the destroyer, yes, you're truly. 00:42:09 Speaker 3: I'm a dark and evil god. 00:42:12 Speaker 2: But with ants I fully support. There's so many of them and they're just so bad. 00:42:18 Speaker 4: I feel like once a week there's a news story that's like did you know that if you put all of the ants in the world in a pile, they'd be heavier than the moon. 00:42:28 Speaker 2: I don't want to know that. 00:42:30 Speaker 3: Stop telling me how there are. 00:42:34 Speaker 2: Who's doing this sort of research. I don't need to know how heavy all are ants are. 00:42:39 Speaker 4: Some kind of perverb is just there counting ants and being there's more. 00:42:46 Speaker 2: Wow, I'm so excited to use this. What a device. 00:42:49 Speaker 4: And then there's another gift that I realized is sort of the opposite of the. 00:42:58 Speaker 2: Discussion. 00:43:00 Speaker 4: Just to get you started, you know how when people give you like an electronic and then the batteries that go with it. 00:43:06 Speaker 2: Here's your your DVD player and a copy of Avatar. This is. 00:43:12 Speaker 3: What I think we might have spoken about this. 00:43:14 Speaker 4: This is a narrow a California native narrow leaf milkweed that I got grow from seed, the purpose of which is to attract more. 00:43:23 Speaker 3: Bugs into your life, because a lot of bugs. 00:43:26 Speaker 4: This is the only food that monarch butterflies, these are caterpillars eat, So I got really into monarch butterflies this year because again I couldn't garden. So I was like, what I'll do is I'll prepare for when I can garden again, and I'll start I knew I wanted to plant some milkweed because they're endangered. 00:43:49 Speaker 3: And apparently there's this whole thing where. 00:43:52 Speaker 4: Like there's tropical milkweed and then there's native milkweed, and tropical milkweed is the most common, and you're not supposed to plant it because it confuses them about where they're supposed to beg Yeah, but because it like is sort of perennial, it confuses them and so you're only supposed to do like climate appropriate. And so this is a climate appropriate milkweed plant, and it will attract monarch butterfly. 00:44:20 Speaker 3: Put it in the ground. 00:44:22 Speaker 4: Now next late spring you'll have caterpillars. 00:44:27 Speaker 2: And we're like, is this something I should put in my like vegetable garden bed or is like groundcover? What sort of I. 00:44:33 Speaker 3: Think it's like you should consider it shrubbery. Consider it shrubbery. 00:44:38 Speaker 2: How And is the one that when you get the milk on you No. 00:44:42 Speaker 3: I think that's fire sticks, you know those ones that? 00:44:45 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean milk weed does it is called milkweed because when you like snap it, it's. 00:44:50 Speaker 2: Milk gross slime. And yes, it's got what. 00:44:53 Speaker 3: It's got milk in there. 00:44:54 Speaker 4: For some reason, we're like two months two months away from that being an option at coffee shops. 00:45:02 Speaker 2: We should get in on that. Yeah. 00:45:05 Speaker 4: But yes, so this is a very small plant, but if you put it in the ground, it will be big enough for caterpillars by next year. 00:45:11 Speaker 2: And how much care do I need to put into this thing? So I would say, google it. I think water it every other day. Okay, maybe even less because it's been raining and it's been cool. But did you, uh plant it from seed? 00:45:28 Speaker 3: I grew this from seed? 00:45:29 Speaker 2: Yes, I grew up from seed. 00:45:30 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, So I bought I bought some seeds and I started a bunch because my goal was to have a bunch that I could give out to my neighbors to have them plant them so that we could make a little highway in the neighborhood. 00:45:41 Speaker 2: That's beautiful. 00:45:42 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I reared like four monarchs from like caterpillar to butterfly this year. 00:45:47 Speaker 3: It was really exciting. 00:45:48 Speaker 2: And then sent them off into the world. 00:45:50 Speaker 3: And sent them off into the world. 00:45:51 Speaker 4: They are now, I mean probably dead, they're almost certainly. 00:45:56 Speaker 2: Dead at this point. 00:45:57 Speaker 4: Yeah, which is you know, you just have to accept It's one of the lessons of the milk I mean the other thing too, is that like there's a lot of mixed information about how you're supposed to like interact with them, because like you're not supposed to rear them inside because then they don't know how to deal with the weather. 00:46:13 Speaker 2: These butterflies and likeughen up. 00:46:17 Speaker 4: And there's a lot of warnings online that are like, do not rear butterflies because then they'll get sick, they'll be crowded together, and a lot of those warnings are aimed at the people who are like doing hundreds of them at a time. And so I immediately like I had I had gotten an enclosure, which is basically just like a mesh hamper they can put the milkweed inside of and then they build their crystalis in there and you get to watch the whole thing happen and it's amazing. But then I saw something online that was like you were not supposed to rear them, and I was like, Okay, I'll let nature take its course. And at that point, I had new eggs that had been laid on my milkweed plants, and I had like seventeen caterpillars, and I was like, I am going to let nature take its course, I am not going to interfere. 00:46:56 Speaker 3: I'm not going to use the enclosure again. 00:46:58 Speaker 4: At that point, I had reared like three up until like emergence, and so I was like, i've it's okay, it's fine. And then one day I saw a wasp buzzing around the plants, and I two hours later I went out there and it had eaten all but one of them. 00:47:14 Speaker 2: Oh like, wasps so dark? 00:47:17 Speaker 4: Carve your caterpillars up and then take their like remains away, They're so evil. And I then I panicked and I went full finding. 00:47:25 Speaker 3: Nemo, like because you know in the beginning of that movie. 00:47:28 Speaker 4: Is like there's like hundreds of eggs and then a like a swordfish comes and eats all but one of them, and that's Nemo. And so I took the last caterpillar and I put it back in the enclosure, and I was like, you will not die, you will not die on my watch, but you will probably need more than this one plant, because once they arrive, they eat. 00:47:48 Speaker 2: This sh crazy, yeah, turn it into a sizzler. 00:47:51 Speaker 3: The very Hungry Caterpillar is. 00:47:54 Speaker 2: It's a documentary, absolutely a documentary. I mean, speaking of wasp, what's do you have any idea about the purpose of a like of nature. What is a wasp adding to any of our lives? I think they pollinate, They do pollinate, and they better pollinate. 00:48:11 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they kill bugs. I don't know what it's like. 00:48:17 Speaker 4: It does seem like there are some superfluous bugs that we should be able to get rid. 00:48:21 Speaker 2: Of, like adding nothing to any of our lives and just being nuisances. 00:48:25 Speaker 4: But I have to believe that like birds eat them. 00:48:28 Speaker 2: But birds aren't eating a wasp. 00:48:30 Speaker 3: They might be a tough one. It's like those are the birds that are like, how spicy do you want it? Like a knife? 00:48:38 Speaker 2: They're the most And is a wasp different from a hornet? I know you're not a bug exter, but I'd like to see if somebody. 00:48:47 Speaker 3: Really have given you every reason they think that I am. 00:48:50 Speaker 4: I'm going on and on about the cars above you as if I am. 00:48:54 Speaker 2: I know you care. 00:48:56 Speaker 4: Has anyone tried to sell you so hard on the gift that they brought you? 00:49:00 Speaker 2: No? But but this most I mean, the sale wasn't required. 00:49:06 Speaker 4: Most other gifts you can tell why they're gonna be useful to you without the explanation. 00:49:10 Speaker 2: But see, that's actually not true. This one. I was like, oh, I love this, what a fun novelty at the very least, right, you didn't have to sell it. You could have. You could have been just like dropped out on my lap and been like, you know what this is. 00:49:22 Speaker 3: But it's the Carson bug View. 00:49:25 Speaker 4: The fact that it's called the bug View, and and then in small letters it says bug catcher. 00:49:30 Speaker 3: It's like the only person who's. 00:49:32 Speaker 4: Really I'm like, I'm not looking at the bugs very much at all. 00:49:36 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be looking at every single bug. It's a little TV for me. 00:49:40 Speaker 4: But anyway, I'm not I'm not a bug expert. I don't know the difference between a hornet and a wasp. 00:49:44 Speaker 2: On alase, have you done any research here? 00:49:46 Speaker 5: Yes? So it says that hornets are larger, while wasps are brighter. Wasps have black and yellow rings while hornets have black and white rings. 00:49:55 Speaker 2: Okay, so I'm I'm more of a wasp person. There's more color there, They're smaller. 00:50:00 Speaker 3: They're smaller. 00:50:01 Speaker 4: Yeah, I have to be anti wasp because of the personal tragedy. 00:50:05 Speaker 2: That I've seen. 00:50:08 Speaker 4: I've seen they've comes for my loved ones. 00:50:13 Speaker 2: What an evil creature there is evil in the world. 00:50:17 Speaker 4: And I do feel like at the time that that was happening, someone reached out to be like, but it's a good thing to have, wasps because and then they said a reason, and I've forgotten it. 00:50:28 Speaker 2: I don't want to hear that. 00:50:30 Speaker 4: I mean, clearly is not important and important enough reason for me to remember. 00:50:35 Speaker 2: Wow, Well, I'm so thrilled. I'm going to become this is really a Bridger's bug day. 00:50:43 Speaker 3: I really hope that. 00:50:45 Speaker 4: The one thing about the milkweed that I'll say that might freak you out is I do think that it dies back a bit in winter, and you're going to be like, it's dead. 00:50:53 Speaker 3: It's not dead. 00:50:54 Speaker 4: You just need to cut some of the dead leaves off and then it'll come back. But that's why it's the correct milkweed for us to have, because it doesn't confuse the butter Right, you need milkweed that dies back in winter if you're in this part of Calvin. 00:51:08 Speaker 2: Otherwise you're troublemaker. 00:51:09 Speaker 3: Otherwise you are luring them to their death. 00:51:12 Speaker 2: You're contributing to the problem. 00:51:13 Speaker 4: Yes, it's very hard for me to because people know that I like monarch butterflies now and they'll be like check it out, and I'll be like, that's the. 00:51:21 Speaker 3: Wrong kind of milkweed, and I just rain on their parade. 00:51:24 Speaker 4: I've become the sort of like crazy lady in the neighborhood too, where I like, one time I saw a bunch of caterpillars on this tropical milkweed in my neighbor's yard when I was walking my dog and she came out of her house and I just started lecturing her about She's. 00:51:40 Speaker 3: Like, I'm a renter, I don't care what. 00:51:44 Speaker 2: Just let me go about my day. 00:51:46 Speaker 4: Yes, but it's one of those things where once you know about the difference, you're gonna start seeing tropical milkweed everywhere. 00:51:53 Speaker 2: Youre like expertise in gardening? How long has like when did you get into all of them? So I'm an amateur, I mean by any stretch, but compared to a normal person. 00:52:04 Speaker 4: Yes, I started gardening, like I think probably a little bit before the pandemic because we bought this house in like twenty eighteen, and then we got a dog right away, and I was like, oh great, this house has a yard. 00:52:17 Speaker 3: My dog's gonna love it. 00:52:18 Speaker 4: And we got a couch potato dog and he'd just we would take him outside and he'd be like, what are we doing out here? The couches inside. He doesn't play fetch, he doesn't care. He would just roll over for a belly rap and then go back inside. And I was like, Okay, well, now I have this land, what do I do with it? Grass seems stupid. My brother's a really good gardener, and so he got me started with some. 00:52:39 Speaker 2: And you had someone in your life that is a support system. 00:52:42 Speaker 3: He is an excellent gardener. He could answer a lot of my questions. 00:52:46 Speaker 4: But also I just went on YouTube a lot, Like a lot of gardening is just like killing plants and then looking up why they died. 00:52:53 Speaker 3: That's a big part of it. 00:52:55 Speaker 4: And I've killed like aside from the ants that I've killed, I killed like a hundred seedlings and like plants I had started from seed I killed them all in one day and it was devastating. But every time I like look something up, like I've looked up questions online and one time I found on Reddit, on like some gardening reddit, someone was like asking the same question. They were like, I'm a very new gardener. I've only been doing it for about five years. And I was like, oh, this is going to take forever to be good at this, but especially during the pandemic, I was like, Oh, our food system is collapsing. 00:53:29 Speaker 3: I need to know how to grow stuff. 00:53:30 Speaker 2: Right, you be the one person that you're going to be the queen of La where everything falls apart. 00:53:35 Speaker 4: Yeah, everyone is gonna need I mean. And it's like I grow such a small amount of I always think about it. I'm like, I could not live on the food I grow, and that bothers like. 00:53:44 Speaker 3: It's not enough. 00:53:45 Speaker 2: But it's like a novel. 00:53:46 Speaker 4: One thing that is really cool about it that I've started to lean into more is that, like I think the real draw of being able to garden is that there are so many varieties of like fruits and vegetables that they do not sell in the grocery store because no one knows what they are and no one wants them. And not just like oh from other countries. It's just like varieties of peppers, because the way the genetics work for peppers and tomatoes and stuff is like it's very easy to cross breed them and to make a new one, Like you can make a new generation of like a new kind of pepper, like every day or something and so there's just all these really weird peppers and tomatoes. You can grow yourself if you know how to, but you cannot get in stores, right, And that's what I think is like you can just like grow a bunch of stuff that you wouldn't be able to ever eat otherwise. 00:54:36 Speaker 2: Yeah, my brother sent me two packets of seeds that are like crazy hybrids. Like one is like purple snow peas or something. The other is a like a Hoberniro pepper that's not spicy. 00:54:49 Speaker 3: Well, what's the point of that? 00:54:51 Speaker 2: I don't know. I've had to grow them. I haven't grown the peppers yet, but I'm very curious what is the point. Maybe it's got a good flavor. 00:54:58 Speaker 4: I mean, I grew some Peruvian hobbin arrows, that's what they were called on the pack, and they're very spicy. But they're small and they're white, and they're like kind of smoky and they're flavor. The flavor of them was so good. It's like my favorite pepper I've ever grown. And but then also like my next door neighbors, the ones who I have been texting in Spanish, they are from Peru, and so like I was like, do you know these and they didn't. 00:55:28 Speaker 3: But these people do not like but they did know. 00:55:31 Speaker 4: Well, they asked for a garden to her, and I like showed them around and I all, but I was also growing these things called ground cherries. 00:55:38 Speaker 2: Do you know what those are? 00:55:38 Speaker 4: All? 00:55:38 Speaker 3: They're like kind of. 00:55:40 Speaker 4: Related to to matillos. They grow in like a husk, okay. And when she saw the and they're like kind of like a little sweet and a little sour. And when she saw those, she was like, oh, these used to grow wild in Peru and whenever we were like walking through the hills, we used to pick them and eat them. 00:56:00 Speaker 3: And so that was a really cool thing, Like, oh my god. 00:56:04 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was like that made me so And those things are really fun to eat. 00:56:07 Speaker 2: I don't know ground cherries is that technic? Is it a fruit? Yes? That sounds like something I would love to eat. 00:56:13 Speaker 3: I think you would. 00:56:14 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's wonderful. 00:56:15 Speaker 4: They grow in these sort of like low branching plants and then they grow in these little like sort of lantern like husks, and then when the husks are brown, the fruit inside is like a little orange ball and it's just it's a very interesting flavor. It's like halfway between fruit and vegetable. 00:56:34 Speaker 2: Oh this sounds like a great snack. 00:56:36 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're really fun. 00:56:37 Speaker 4: And there's just like so many I mean yeah, Oh god, I'm miss gardening so much. 00:56:41 Speaker 3: I haven't done it in so long. 00:56:43 Speaker 2: What a shame. Yeah, and you'll get back to it. I will. Well, I think we should play a game. Yes, let's do it. Let's play a game called Gift or a Curse. I need a number between Why am I struggling to remember number? I want to say a numberw F no between one and ten. Five. Okay, I'm going to do some like calculating. Okay, in the meantime, you can promote, recommend, do whatever you want. 00:57:11 Speaker 4: I'm going to explain the reasoning for me picking the number five so quickly and without thinking, which is that my name is Emily. 00:57:18 Speaker 3: There's five letters in the name Emily. 00:57:21 Speaker 4: It starts with the letter E, which is the fifth letter of the alphabet. 00:57:26 Speaker 3: And I was born on the fifth. 00:57:30 Speaker 4: In a year ending in five, and so I've always felt like that was my lucky number, despite the fact that there is currently a firetruck declaring that nothing happening right now is lucky and everything is bad. I just want to promote the number five. I also have a podcast called Baby Genius is if you want to listen to it. 00:57:51 Speaker 2: It's such a good podcast. Oh, thank you. I mean, what's going on right now in your neighborhood. In the neighborhood, I don't know every type of siren. 00:58:01 Speaker 4: We it does sound like a fire truck. And there was an arson in my front yard recently. In your front yard, Yes, you have a storage cube right now because we like, like I said, we're doing construction and we got rid of our garage and we put everything that was in the garage in one of those like it's a storage cube, you know, like in our front yard. It's just like a wooden box with a cover on it. And someone said it on fire the other night. 00:58:25 Speaker 2: Did all this stuff get burned? No? 00:58:27 Speaker 4: Well, luckily my next door neighbor, who I have a very good relationship, Okay, coming home from a night out the daughter and she knocked on the door at three am, and it woke our dog up, and our dog woke up us up, and we came out and I put the fire out with a fire extinguisher. 00:58:42 Speaker 3: Oh and it was the coolest I've ever felt, of course. 00:58:47 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so funn to use a fire extinguisher to put a fire out. I can't say I recommend it because I don't want you to be in that situation. But like, if you're ever if like the fire extinguisher factories, like we need someone to test out on real fires, you should do it. 00:59:02 Speaker 2: That's so cool. Yeah, it was really fun. The fire didn't there did not. 00:59:07 Speaker 4: It just burned the out, like the plastic tarp outside of the outside of the cube, and then the out the cube itself got a little bit charred, but everything inside was fine. 00:59:17 Speaker 2: Somebody just passed by the hated storage. 00:59:19 Speaker 3: I get well. 00:59:20 Speaker 4: Our our other neighbor had her trash can burned down to the ground at the exact same time. Whoa, it was like three am on a Saturday night. So it was definitely arson. Oh but it's like, what do I do about that? I mean, it's like it's not like they were trying to steal anything. It was just like a totally senseless crime. 00:59:35 Speaker 2: If we're just trying to destroy everything, Arson is a I feel like arson is one thing that a lot of people get away with. I feel like I've read that somewhere. 00:59:45 Speaker 3: Really, let's just. 00:59:49 Speaker 2: What we're trying to talk about. Listen, go ahead and burn something down. You won't get caught. Is the neighbor bothering you burn their house down? Okay? This is how we play gift for a curse. I'm going to name three things. You're gonna tell me if they're a gift or a curse and why. I'll tell if you're right or wrong, because there are correct answers. Okay. Number one uh, This is from a listener named Lydia. Lydia wrote in and suggested gift to a curse. Phone numbers with words, for example, one eight hundred USA Rail. I don't know if that's a real phone number. 01:00:20 Speaker 3: I have to imagine that's Amtrak. 01:00:22 Speaker 2: Oh. Probably I was on amtrack recently. 01:00:25 Speaker 3: Did you notice any stickers with their phone number? 01:00:27 Speaker 2: No, they weren't begging me to call that aspect of it like, got complaints? 01:00:33 Speaker 3: Too bad? This ain't Europe. We're your only choice. 01:00:36 Speaker 2: This is basically a bus. 01:00:39 Speaker 4: I am going to say, gift why, because no one remembers anyone's phone numbers. If you're ever in a situation where you need to give someone your phone number, like I think, as long as it's not something that people will sort of like want to type in anyway if it's just like I was just gonna say dog fart, and I'm like someone would type that in. But if your number is dog fart, then you can just say, like, just call me. I'm like, you know, three two three dogs three two three, dog fart. 01:01:10 Speaker 3: That's great. 01:01:14 Speaker 4: And I think it's like it's only I don't can't see how it's occurs unless you're getting a lot of calls that you don't want. But we're all getting those calls anyway. You're one hundred, right, of course, How could that be anything but a gift. It's a fun little novelty. 01:01:28 Speaker 3: Have you ever had your numbers spell out anything? 01:01:31 Speaker 2: I've never had mine. My childhood friend James, his phone number ended with mint, which I always loved. That's a nice one to have. 01:01:40 Speaker 3: I had when I got my own phone number, it was. 01:01:45 Speaker 4: It ended in the letters DHC because I was really into the dance hall crashers. 01:01:50 Speaker 3: And you got to pick that. I got to pick that. 01:01:52 Speaker 4: But then I also realized that the first four numbers also spelled out Jack and d HC is also the same letters as D. 01:02:00 Speaker 3: I see, So my phone number was Jack Dick. 01:02:04 Speaker 2: Poor choice. Poor choice on your part. 01:02:07 Speaker 4: Yeah, I actually haven't looked to see if my current phone number spells anything. I know I'm going through my number of my zero in it and so or it has a one in it, So it doesn't. 01:02:16 Speaker 2: It can't. Yeah, and I feel like mine doesn't have any vowels, right, But I could be wrong. I hope I probably just gave away my phone number to some phone number genius. Another thing with phone numbers I've noticed recently is my last two optometrists end with twenty twenty, which is like, very cute. 01:02:37 Speaker 3: Yeah, but they all have it. 01:02:39 Speaker 4: And the whole point is I don't have twenty twenty visions, right, I certainly don't advertisement anything. 01:02:45 Speaker 2: Ten Well, I don't even know what my vision is. Horrible, But I love a novelty with a phone number. We can all take a little. That's a gift. Yeah. Next up, a listener named Jordan has written in Gift or a Curse fast food drive throughs where the employees come outside to deliver the food to your car instead of passing it through a window, Gift or a curse. 01:03:09 Speaker 4: That to me seems like a gift because the number of times that I've pulled up to a drive through window and then had to back up and pull up again because I wasn't close enough for weeks because I'm just not good at eyeballing where my car is supposed to be. 01:03:26 Speaker 2: It's humiliating, emily wrong, curse this, and this is why I get what you're saying there. But if they're on roller skates, one hundred percent, I love it. I'm thrilled, but that I think that's happened to me one time. The rest of the time, it just it makes me so nervous people walking up to my kids. You're sitting there, sitting very ready. Yes, and sure, if they skate up on a pair of roller blades, I'm all for a thrill. I'm all for that novelty. But to have somebody it makes me feel bad that they had to come from the store. It's also like, usually it's dark when I'm at a drive through, it's like I'm I'm putting, I'm a sitting duck, I'm a target, and I don't like the nervous feeling it gives me. It's a. 01:04:15 Speaker 3: I think that's fair. 01:04:17 Speaker 2: Just pass it through the window. Let's make this. 01:04:19 Speaker 4: Yes, I mean, look if if I could just change it so that the windows were easier to reach. 01:04:25 Speaker 3: That's what I would do. 01:04:27 Speaker 2: The problem is with uh, when you need more options with windows on your car. 01:04:31 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's there. 01:04:32 Speaker 2: Your car just needs a ton more windows that you can Or it's just. 01:04:36 Speaker 4: Like the windows there need to be closer to where my car window is, like on the level, because then I don't have to be as close in order for them to reach, because the problem is we're going diagonal. 01:04:47 Speaker 2: Yeah, those windows, the restaurants need to lower them a little bit. 01:04:50 Speaker 3: They need to lower them. Get I want them to be down on my level. 01:04:54 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're all at a bad place right now. 01:04:56 Speaker 4: To be a little bit, those restaurants need to be sunk into the around slightly. 01:05:01 Speaker 2: Or the employee should be on their knees, kind of shuffling around on their knees. Is that too much to ask? I don't think so. 01:05:10 Speaker 4: Or the food should be on like a little shoot, like a little slide, like a trash shoot in New York. 01:05:17 Speaker 2: To just have drinks and food sliding in your car, food every milkshake. Just I don't see any problem with any of our ideas. Okay, so you've gotten one out of two so far. I don't know what to say about that. 01:05:30 Speaker 3: But it's an f f. 01:05:33 Speaker 2: Uh. This final one is from somebody, Uh, Carla give her a curse. The introduction chapter in a book. 01:05:41 Speaker 4: Oh, I think it depends on if it's written by the author or written by a different person, because and even then, I don't know if that changes the answer in the affirmative of the name, I'm going to say, curse. Just get into it. If it's interesting, I'll like it. 01:06:01 Speaker 2: You're absolutely speaking my language. Get out of the way. I don't need anything put at the back of the book. I don't need you coloring what my thoughts on what the book is going to be. Also, I've already committed to reading. I don't need more reading than has to do with the thing I wanted to read. 01:06:18 Speaker 4: I'm perfectly capable of reading it, deciding I'm lost without an introduction, and then just stopping. 01:06:23 Speaker 2: I don't need your health. 01:06:24 Speaker 3: Production really going to help that much. 01:06:26 Speaker 4: Like, I think it only really makes sense if, like the author died while writing the book, and they're like, look, i'll tell you when in the book he died, and like that's why certain things are messed up in this book. 01:06:39 Speaker 2: That's why this shouldn't have been published. 01:06:41 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean that's the thing. Don't publish books that are half written. That's messed up. 01:06:45 Speaker 2: No, no, no, those are should be free online. 01:06:48 Speaker 4: Or they should be finished by another person, like another like a trusted person. 01:06:53 Speaker 3: Should come in and finish them. 01:06:54 Speaker 2: Absolutely not, there's no way that could work. 01:06:58 Speaker 4: I mean it works, and all your favorite TV shows we have when they get a new showrunner that never led to any terrible seasons of television. 01:07:09 Speaker 2: But it is odd with like TV or movies. If I see that two people wrote it or whatever, I'm like fine. But if I see a book was written by two people, I'm like, that's garbage. There's no way that's good. 01:07:18 Speaker 4: Even though writing a book is so much harder than writing TV, writing TV is so easy. 01:07:22 Speaker 2: Books should be written by armies of people. Yeah, there's so long. It's very backwards. 01:07:27 Speaker 4: But they do have like a little bit of a cheat where it's like they can just say what. 01:07:31 Speaker 3: The characters are thinking. 01:07:33 Speaker 4: Have to like, you don't have to show anything, you don't have to be artful about that. It's just like, oh, you're just telling me, fine, very fancy of you. 01:07:41 Speaker 2: Authors are frauds. 01:07:43 Speaker 4: Yeah, they should die and have other people take over their books. 01:07:47 Speaker 2: Every authors should be dead and their new authors should spring up to finish their work. Well, you got two out of three. 01:07:54 Speaker 4: That's pretty good. That's about a D. That's a solid D. Yeah, deplug plus. I don't know, I should know at this point. 01:08:01 Speaker 2: I've given a lot of ds on this podcast, but it's not a failing grade, which we love. Excellent job and you've finished so strong. This is the final segment of the podcast. It's called I said no emails. People write into I said no gifts at gmail dot com and they have problems. We all have problems. My listeners have the worst problems, and it's frankly very annoying that they ask for my help. But we're going to do it. And I'm not even gonna ask if you're gonna help me. I've just assumed you're on board. I'm really on board, Okay. 01:08:35 Speaker 4: I love telling people what to do, especially when they can't tell me that they're not going to do it right away. I'm assuming that they will follow my word to the letter. 01:08:46 Speaker 2: You've improved their life and you don't have to think about it again. Yeah, this is hello. Bridger and likely esteemed guests. So a great guest on this person's part. If this makes it to you, well it's not a letter in a bottle, sweetie. If this makes it to you, I hope you are both enjoying yourself on some level. Oh that's very nice. Okay. At work, I have just finished project managing the publication of my boss's first book. 01:09:09 Speaker 3: Oh, oh, my gosh. 01:09:13 Speaker 2: The book's proceeds benefit the nonprofit we work for. Nammy, Nami, nam I. Oh what is that? 01:09:21 Speaker 3: I know what that is? 01:09:22 Speaker 2: National can't think of it now. Associations on a leash get into it. We'll keep reading here. But he wants to get both me and our research assistant a project and gift. My colleague has asked that he pay for her next tattoo as her gift. That's a big ask. So the world seems to be my oyster as far as asks go. However, I have no clue what I want or what's appropriate for this sort of gift. I am twenty six and love traveling, the outdoors, pop culture, and my job, and currently live in DC. Any insights are welcome, as I have never had an open gift offer like this before with gratitude Jordan, and this is a different Jordan. There was a lot of things, uh wow, coming together, and. 01:10:07 Speaker 3: This question is what do I want? That's what they're asked. 01:10:12 Speaker 2: And it seems like the world is her, it is her oyster and Onnlyish's. 01:10:16 Speaker 5: The main nammy that I found was the National Alliance on Mental Illness. 01:10:19 Speaker 4: Oh pa, I'm glad that it wasn't like the National Alliance of Maga monster. 01:10:28 Speaker 3: I specs. I don't know. I would not be supportive. 01:10:32 Speaker 2: Of We would shut down Jordan's thing right now. But Jordan's doing great work and uh deserves a gift. 01:10:38 Speaker 4: So my first thought, and I think this is dependent on how Jordan feels about her coworker, which is like, get ask your boss for enough money to bribe the tattoo artist to do a different tattoo than what her co worker asked for and not tell the coworker about it. 01:10:54 Speaker 2: So the coworker ends up with something they did not ask. 01:10:56 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, and then it just cancels out. No one gets anything, the organization falls apart, right Yeah, morale hits an all time Wow. 01:11:07 Speaker 3: That's a perfect gift. That's not what your goal is. 01:11:13 Speaker 4: It sounds like your goal is to get something you want, which that doesn't really work. 01:11:17 Speaker 2: For But she does love traveling. Okay, the outdoors. Pop culture lives in DC. I was just in DC. Odd. It's always an odd city to be in. 01:11:27 Speaker 3: Why because you're just like Watergate happened here. 01:11:30 Speaker 2: I stayed it Watergate, Well, hey, that you brought on yourself. I will say about the Watergate, they've tried to like hip it up and every like all of their marketing and branding is like they clearly have one joke, which is like you'll have to break in, So it's like the key card is like you don't have to break in, and then like the mini bars, like you don't have to break into the snaps. If we only had one idea, maybe we shouldn't have done this. Yeah. 01:11:55 Speaker 4: I also just feel like it's there's more they did more than just break in. That wasn't the only thing that they did wrong. There was more to that whole incident. 01:12:05 Speaker 2: There are a lot of things you can pull from to make your hotel. Yeah, it's like talk. 01:12:09 Speaker 4: About the flashlights, talk about the committee to real life, the President, talk about like the files, talk about talk about anything other than just the break in stop calling attention to your security failures. 01:12:23 Speaker 2: Also, speaking of Watergate, I'm and Jordan, forgive me. I just want to go on a little thing here. I was at Goodwill recently and found a book by Richard Nixon, and it was funny to see the first page was like also by Richard Nixon, and just to see that our favorite author. 01:12:38 Speaker 4: Like, if you enjoy this, great news, this is not the only thing he's written. 01:12:45 Speaker 2: Maybe, Jordan, maybe you get the whole collection of Richard Nixon books. That's a gift. 01:12:51 Speaker 3: Test, Okay, I do have an idea for a good gift. 01:12:53 Speaker 4: Let's talk it for And this is something that I don't think Jordan would buy for herself, but that would benefit her life, which is to get a really nice, high quality suitcase. 01:13:06 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 01:13:07 Speaker 3: Yes, because you're twenty six years old. 01:13:09 Speaker 4: Guarantee the suitcase you're using has maybe two years left on it max. 01:13:15 Speaker 3: It will be trash. 01:13:17 Speaker 4: But if you get a nice one, then you'll use it for a long time. It was just a tattoo cost a lot of money, it's how dog it is. 01:13:24 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think probably at least. 01:13:27 Speaker 2: Three hundred, right, so you could get a decent at least carry on, yeah, or like a good backpack or something. 01:13:34 Speaker 4: You know what, get a carry on because then you can use it for either you know. 01:13:38 Speaker 2: I'm mostly a carry on person at this point anyway. 01:13:41 Speaker 3: You know what I love doing is carrying on. 01:13:46 Speaker 4: But then when they're like we've oversold, does anyone want to check their bag at the gate? 01:13:52 Speaker 2: You take care? 01:13:53 Speaker 3: I love that because you're nervous, you're not paying for it. 01:13:57 Speaker 4: It's definitely safer than anything else because the plane's already there. 01:14:01 Speaker 3: They're taking it onto the plane. It's like it's more. 01:14:04 Speaker 4: Guaranteed to get on the plane than when you check it of the best, right, and especially if you have a if you have a layover anywhere, it's like, oh, I hate, like take it all the way there for me, I don't want to. I don't want to lug this thing or like for a mile at O'Hare. 01:14:21 Speaker 2: But then you're at the carousel. So why the carousel the. 01:14:26 Speaker 3: Last one on the plane, so it's the first one off. 01:14:28 Speaker 2: Oh that's true, that's very true. 01:14:31 Speaker 3: Thought a carousel for or last? I don't quote me on that. 01:14:33 Speaker 2: Oh well, I mean what makes logical sense? I mean, yeah, if I were packing a plane. 01:14:38 Speaker 3: Depends on where you're going. 01:14:39 Speaker 4: But I personally think unless you're like going somewhere right after you get off a plane, that part of your your trip always takes longer than you think it's going to anyway, so it's like it's another twenty minutes. 01:14:51 Speaker 2: I don't like to hear this. That makes me. The last two flights on they were threatening, They're like, we have to do this and we only have I was like, please don't let this be me. I can't have one other thing I have to think about. 01:15:03 Speaker 3: But your I think it's worth it. 01:15:06 Speaker 4: It really depends on what's in your carry on, and it really like if you need any of it during the flight, obviously that's again in the ass, but like, just to not carry it is so great to not have to wheel it around and not have to deal with it. 01:15:20 Speaker 2: You make a decent argument, but you're not going to convince me. But I do think you have an excellent point for Jordan. Get a good piece of luggage that's not going to fall apart. Yeah, it'll last you a very long time. It will be such a big part of your life. Yes, that's a perfect truly a perfect idea, A rare thing in this segment of the podcast. Jordan, you have your answer. Don't come calling again. Enjoy your gift and thank you for your work. It's very sweet, Emily. You've brought me some beautiful. 01:15:54 Speaker 3: Gifts, beautiful bug gifts. 01:15:55 Speaker 2: I'm going to have butterflies probably in the spring. Yeah. I'm going to be the king of the monarchs. 01:16:02 Speaker 3: Yeah, the king of kings, the king. 01:16:05 Speaker 2: Of kind of what I'm known as already, I'm so excited, and I'm going to be able to capture all sorts of bugs and learn. 01:16:13 Speaker 3: I can't wait for you to get going with this. 01:16:17 Speaker 4: You are going to say out loud to yourself alone, how did I live without this? 01:16:23 Speaker 2: As I'm reheating soup and collecting bugs around. Yeah, my life has taken this kind of a turn that bums everyone out. Oh, thank you so much for being here, so much for having me. It's been a it's been a gift. And uh, listener, you know what I'm about to do. I'm going to have my soup. 01:16:46 Speaker 4: Every second of this has been torture for you elsewhere, soupless torture. 01:16:53 Speaker 2: I've had my eye on the soup this entire time. I've barely been able to hear Emily, listener, I hope you have a soup or a metaphorical soup you're looking forward to in your life, because the podcast is over and you've got to find another way to take care of yourself until next week. I love you, goodbye, I said, No Gifts is an exactly right production. It's produced by our dear friend Analise Nelson, and it's beautifully mixed by John Brantley, and we couldn't do it without our guest booker, Patrick Kottner. The theme song, of course, could only come from miracle worker Amy Mann. You must follow the show on Instagram. At I said no Gifts, I don't want to hear any excuses. That's where you get to see pictures of all these gorgeous gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see pictures of the gifts? 01:17:48 Speaker 4: But invit? 01:17:49 Speaker 3: Did you hear. 01:17:53 Speaker 2: Fun a man. 01:17:53 Speaker 1: Myself perfectly clear? When you're I guess tom mhmm. 01:18:01 Speaker 2: You gotta come to me empty? 01:18:03 Speaker 1: And I said, no, guest, your own presence is presents enough. I already had too much stuff, So how do you dare to surbve me