1 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: And I invited you here. I thought I made myself 2 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: perfectly clear. When you're a guest in my home, you 3 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: gotta come to me empty. And I said, no, guest, 4 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: your presences presents enough, and I already had too much stuff, 5 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: So how do you dare to surbey me? 6 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 2: Welcome to? I said, no gifts. I'm bridgerd Weineger. We are, 7 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 2: of course in the backyard. What's going on? I mean, 8 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 2: that's one thing I can't stop thinking about is the 9 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 2: leftover soup I have in the fridge. I am dying 10 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 2: to eat it for dinner. I've been basically since I 11 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 2: woke up this morning. I've been thinking about it, and 12 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 2: I'm an hour, hour and a half away from reheating 13 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:19,119 Speaker 2: the soup. I'm so and I this may it might 14 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 2: sound like I'm exaggerating, I'm Unfortunately, I'm not. This is 15 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 2: something I've been looking forward to. So that's what I have. 16 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 2: At the other end of this podcast, we got to 17 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 2: get through it. The guests today, I adore. It's Emily Heller. Hello, Emily, 18 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 2: Welcome to. I said, no gifts. 19 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, thank you for having me. What kind 20 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 3: of soup is that? 21 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 2: It's It's Tom yum. Oh soup, are you familiar? 22 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 3: I love tom Yum. 23 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,199 Speaker 2: I think I've talked about it on this podcast before. 24 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 2: I was trying to get you know, a wave going 25 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 2: of people eating this soup. I don't know that I 26 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 2: had much of an impact. 27 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 4: Soup is so divisive, Like have you ever met someone 28 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 4: who's just like I don't eat soup in general? 29 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 2: People have take a real strong stance. 30 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 3: It's very weird. 31 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 4: But I will say I have been rewatching Seinfeld very often. 32 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 4: I mean not very often, but you know, occasionally when 33 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 4: I'm high, because we just been watching it before bed 34 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 4: and we watched the Soup Nazi episode and I was 35 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 4: so high and I was just like, all of that 36 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 4: soup sounds so good. I would kill for soup right now. 37 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 4: So when you were talking about that, I was like, 38 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 4: I totally get it. That needs no justification, thank you. 39 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 2: I have. 40 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 4: I feel like I watched that episode high a week ago, 41 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 4: and I haven't had really good soup since then. So 42 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 4: I feel like I have an itch that is still unscratched. 43 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 2: What kind of soups is he serving in the episode. 44 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 4: So there's a mullagatani, there's a crab bisk and I 45 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 4: know there's another one, but I can't remember. 46 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 2: See when you say crab bisk. Something I've realized about 47 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 2: soup for me personally recently is when seafood meets cream, 48 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 2: I can't get into it. Clam chowder a crab biss. 49 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 3: That's fair, and I don't eat seafood. I don't care. 50 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 4: I don't like it, and so for some reason, it's 51 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 4: all just theoretical crab bisk To me, it's all just 52 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 4: like make believe best tasting, Like there's no reality entering 53 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 4: into how much I want to eat the soup. 54 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 2: I mean, soup is in l a kind of hard 55 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 2: to come come by, Like it's kind of an afterthought 56 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 2: at every restaurant. I mean, I guess if you like, 57 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 2: if you wanted like a fire, yes, obviously Tomiam is 58 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 2: wonderful what you can get that. 59 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 4: A ti restaurant, got some good ramen places, yes, but 60 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 4: it's like outside of that, we don't have aside from like, yes, ethnically. 61 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 2: Specific soups, there's not like a soup restaurant. 62 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 4: It's never really no, no one's ever really like in 63 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 4: a soup mood here. But there also isn't like because 64 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 4: it's hot that's why. That's because it's hot, but it's 65 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 4: also we don't have like a big gaspacho culture either. 66 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 2: Right, and then that would explain that. Yeah. I mean 67 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 2: think I'm not a gaspacho eater in any weather, so 68 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 2: I wouldn't be like hunting down the gaspat show buffet 69 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 2: or what have you. But I could go for like 70 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 2: a little soup chain. Well, we had soup plans. 71 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 4: He did have soup plantation, but they were they were 72 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 4: da right. You can't call your restaurants sup plantation. It's 73 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 4: crazy that that ever exists. It really sounds like a 74 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 4: fake TV show restaurant. 75 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 2: And for it lasted such a long time with a 76 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 2: bad name and as far as I could tell, questionable quality. 77 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 2: So what was drawing what. 78 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 3: Was drawing people in? 79 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 4: I feel like people went there for the buffet, But 80 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 4: I I'm really speaking out of my ass now because 81 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 4: I don't know a single person who's ever eaten there. 82 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 2: I do know one friend who had kind of an 83 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 2: odd uh. He knew everything about the place. He knew 84 00:04:59,920 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 2: a when the deals were happening. 85 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 4: Oh, he was on the mailing list and actually opened 86 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:09,119 Speaker 4: the emails. He was the one person that the mail 87 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 4: Chimp was like, we got him. 88 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's never went, but I guess I'll never go. 89 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 2: I think they're completely gone, aren't they. 90 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 3: It really makes you think. 91 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 4: There are some chain restaurants you should visit before it's 92 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 4: two ways. 93 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 2: No, absolutely, they could be gone before you know it, 94 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 2: and you'll live with regret. 95 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 3: What do you think is the next one that's going 96 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 3: to go down? 97 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 2: Oh? What is the next one? I mean, it's wild 98 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 2: to me that Sizzler's still around. 99 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 3: I know, yeah, Sizzler doesn't shouldn't still be around. 100 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 2: And they're over there in Atwater Village, I believe for Glendale, 101 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 2: you know what, that. 102 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 4: Is the last restaurant I ate ut before the pandemic. 103 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 4: What I hate there for a podcast and it was 104 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 4: so disgusting, and it was also was like we knew 105 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 4: COVID was happening, and I was like, this feels. 106 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 3: Wronger than it even would have otherwise. 107 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 2: But I mean that was a good last day, I 108 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 2: mean because they could have gone away very easily. 109 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, and then and then I would have And you 110 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 4: know what, Sizzler does hold like a special place in 111 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 4: my heart because when I was a kid, for some reason, 112 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 4: my parents took us there kind of a lot. I 113 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 4: think it was the restaurant we went to the most often, 114 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 4: and I remember just really picking out on those. 115 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 3: Ham cubes from salad Bar. I really loved those. 116 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 2: We went to Siszler all the time. Well, it was 117 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 2: like a special occasion. I remember going for like a 118 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 2: birthday maybe in fifth grade, and they had like a 119 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 2: taco bar, but there was no meat, and so I 120 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 2: filled a taco with bacon bits, which is one of 121 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 2: the faulting things I can possibly imagine. Children are bad people. 122 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 4: Children are bad people. They shouldn't have access to a buffet. 123 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 1: No. 124 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 4: I was at Sizzler when I watched a kid pick 125 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 4: his nose and then reach his hand into the like 126 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 4: tray of chicken nuggets or something, and all of the 127 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 4: gears in my mind started shifting where I was like, 128 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 4: I think, everything that's at this kid's arm level, I 129 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 4: shouldn't eat, And that's everything that you tire so far. 130 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 2: They don't have like an area that you have to 131 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 2: you access by a ladder, so all child it was. 132 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 3: All child level. 133 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 4: This. Yeah, that was a bad moment. I wish I hadn't. 134 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 4: I hadn't seen. 135 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 2: Your last trip to Sizzler, Like what was your meal? 136 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 2: What did that look like? God? 137 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 3: What did I have? 138 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 2: Oh? 139 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 3: Man, I should remember this. I mean, this is why 140 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 3: you should be. 141 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 4: Journaling every day. I just had like a bunch of 142 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 4: random crap from the from the buffet. 143 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 2: Wasn't good? 144 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 3: I want I wanted to order one of the like meals. 145 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 146 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 2: You know that's the weird thing about sister. You kind 147 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 2: of order a meal and then you get the salad 148 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 2: bar with the meal. Yeah. 149 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 4: I think I maybe ordered like a pasta or something 150 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 4: and it was not it was Oh wait, No, I 151 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 4: had a grilled cheese. 152 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 2: Is this good? 153 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:02,679 Speaker 3: Is this good radio? 154 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 2: This is excellent radio. This is award winning radio. A 155 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 2: grilled cheese outside of the buffet. 156 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 3: Yes. 157 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, Because I think I was still thinking about that 158 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 4: kid picking. 159 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 3: His nose from when I was six years old. 160 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 2: I have to imagine the grilled cheese was okay. If 161 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 2: they made a bad grilled cheese, then the entire chain 162 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:24,679 Speaker 2: should be pushed into the ocean. 163 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 3: It was fine. 164 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 4: It was like drenched in butter, like top to bottom, 165 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 4: just sort of like crystalline, you know what I mean. 166 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 2: It's like brock candy. 167 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 4: The entire all of the bread is like translucent from 168 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 4: the butter. I'm not complaining about it, but it did 169 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 4: turn it extra sort of like sharp, you know what 170 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 4: I mean, like fried and sharp. And somehow the cheese 171 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 4: wasn't totally melted, so they did kind of screw it up. 172 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 4: That's what they should go down. 173 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 2: It's crazy that they didn't during the pandemic. They kind 174 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 2: of pivoted it into to a takeout business, which does 175 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 2: not make any sense to me. 176 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 4: Who is getting takeout from? I mean nothing, nothing makes 177 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 4: sense in this world. They must have somehow, just I 178 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 4: think maybe because they've been around so long, very low overhead, right, 179 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 4: you know, they've just had to do it submarket rent 180 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 4: on the or they own. 181 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 2: They may they have. They've probably moved out of the 182 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 2: leasing game. All of those Sissler restaurants are permanent Sissler locations. 183 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 3: What we really need is we need to get in 184 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 3: touch with the COO. 185 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 2: They have kind of a knowledge of the well, the 186 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 2: former Sissler COEO. 187 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 3: Because you are always dropping this name. 188 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 2: Look at this, Look at this. I'm about to show 189 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 2: Emily my desktop background. 190 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 3: Yes, and all your emails. 191 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 2: Now I've got all of my tabs open. How humiliating. 192 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 2: I'm exing out I'm exing out. I'm exing out of 193 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 2: outfit ideas. Oh god, what have I done? 194 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 4: Oh? Your desktop very upsetting. I just want to look 195 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 4: at this, listener, need to know that it is just, 196 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 4: you know, wall to wall. Every single square inch of 197 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 4: that's free has a an icon or a folder on it. 198 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 3: There is no unused. 199 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 2: I don't know what's happened. Look at this. Oh it 200 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 2: is the former COO. This is my desktop wallpaper of Sisler, 201 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 2: And for legal reasons, I'm not entirely sure he's getting 202 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 2: in front of the soup. Yes, this is Kerry Cramp, 203 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:32,319 Speaker 2: Gary Cramp, Carry Cramp, Carrie Cramp and he I can't 204 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 2: remember why he's no longer the Sizzler CEO. But this 205 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 2: has been my desk top wallpaper since maybe twenty thirteen. Wow, 206 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 2: I found this wall I can't even remember what I 207 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 2: was googling, but I somehow came upon that wallpaper and 208 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 2: it was like ultra HD. It's the like the highest 209 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 2: resolution image I had ever seen. You could like zoom 210 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 2: in and see individual pores on Carrie's face. So I 211 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 2: had to make it my wallpaper and it hasn't changed since. 212 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 3: But that's why you don't remember why you ended up 213 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 3: on his LinkedIn. 214 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 2: Or god knows why I was looking. 215 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 3: You're trying to poach him for your. 216 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 2: Restaurant, for my new concept, my new salad bar concept. Yeah, yeah, 217 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:16,559 Speaker 2: so I do know a ladder. I actually want to 218 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 2: talk to you about two TV shows that you've I've 219 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 2: noticed you've been tweeting about. Okay, first, I feel like, 220 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 2: first we should talk about Bakeoff. 221 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, we should talk about Base. 222 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 2: I'm a few behind, Okay, I've only just recently watched 223 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 2: the Mexican episode. 224 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, that was a hate crime because a lot 225 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 4: of we all know about the Mexican episode at this point, right, 226 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 4: they called guacamole glackymolo. I got to it after all 227 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 4: of the you know, so you were bracing yourself. I 228 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 4: was bracing myself in the biggest possible way. Yeah, and 229 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 4: I mean, there are some insane things. 230 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 3: That happen, but it's not as it's not like it's. 231 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 2: Not what I expected, right, Yeah. I expected it to 232 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 2: be like, oh, they're gonna have to delete this, But 233 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 2: I got to it. I was like, well, let's talk. 234 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 2: Was look horrible, Like no one knows what a refried 235 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 2: bean is in the UK. Yeah. Paul's pronunciation of a 236 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 2: variety of words was bonkers. 237 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I want to say they kept saying a 238 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 4: trey leche cake, oh yes, instead of trace leches. It 239 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 4: was very that was upsetting to me as someone who 240 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 4: is currently doing duo lingo. 241 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 2: You're currently doing duo link. 242 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm I'm trying with Spanish. With Spanish, I'm trying 243 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:27,839 Speaker 4: to refresh. 244 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 2: Did you take it in high school? 245 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 4: I took it in middle school and high school. Okay, 246 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 4: I dropped it senior year of high school because one 247 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 4: day I didn't do the homework and I was like, 248 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 4: I don't want to deal with the consequences of this, 249 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 4: so I am dropping Spanish. But it's like I took 250 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 4: it for long enough that like I would still when 251 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 4: I had the opportunity to practice it, I would be 252 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 4: surprised at how much I remembered. And I was like, 253 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 4: and also, my next door neighbors speak Spanish, and I 254 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 4: want to be able to speak to them more, you know, 255 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 4: because we've got a lot of you know, shared issues 256 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 4: being living. 257 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 3: Next door to each other. 258 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 259 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 4: And I had been texting with my next door neighbor 260 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 4: and she and I know that she speaks Spanish much 261 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 4: better than English, and I was like, I'll just try 262 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 4: and text her in Spanish as much as I possibly can, 263 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 4: and eventually I would just start like looking it up 264 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 4: on Google Translate, but I would want. 265 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 3: To know the things that I was, you know. 266 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 4: And then like a month ago, the two of us 267 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 4: were having a meeting with someone else. That's very complicated, 268 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 4: but at a certain point it came out that I 269 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 4: had not been texting with her. I had been texting 270 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 4: with her daughter, who is fully bilingual. And she was like, oh, yeah, 271 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 4: that's not my number, that's my daughter's number. 272 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 3: She just tells me the messages. 273 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 4: I was like, oh, so I did not need to 274 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 4: be texting in Spanish. She was like, no, you did not. 275 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 4: But we were all very impressed. And I did not 276 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 4: own up to the fact that I had been using 277 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 4: Google Translate. 278 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 3: So I am trying to make my lie a true. 279 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,839 Speaker 4: I'm trying to right backwards, make it so that I 280 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 4: know enough Spanish to have texted that fluently. 281 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,319 Speaker 2: It's not a bad idea to trap yourself in like 282 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 2: an aspirational thing, tell everyone that you're good at it, 283 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 2: and then have to do it. 284 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, just sign up to perform at Carnegie Hall and 285 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 4: then start taking Pane lessons. 286 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 2: Wow, that's amazing. Does does Duolingo feel like it's an 287 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 2: effective teaching tool? 288 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 4: I don't think so, and I honestly think I just 289 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 4: read an article that was like, duo Lingo is not 290 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 4: as good as some of the other ones, and I 291 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 4: was like, well, I'm I'm gamified it enough where I'm like, well, 292 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 4: I have a streak. I have a streak going, so 293 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 4: I might do one of the other ones. But anyway, bakeoff, Yeah, that's. 294 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 2: What I know. I'm like, I want to talk about 295 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 2: bakeoff ten seconds and I'm. 296 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 3: Like, let's talk about it. 297 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 2: No, bake off, bakeoff. So we're currently like, I think 298 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 2: I'm probably four behind at this point. Oh wow, Well. 299 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 4: There was the Mexican Week and then there was the 300 00:14:58,040 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 4: Halloween one right after that. 301 00:14:59,160 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 2: Oh so that's it. 302 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 3: You're only yeah, you're only one episode behind. 303 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 2: Okay, and Halloween? How was that? 304 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 4: Halloween was a problem for me because Okay, so there 305 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 4: were first of all, there was no there was no 306 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 4: pumpkin at any point in any of it. They didn't 307 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 4: do any pumpkin act, you know, challenges, right, it was 308 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 4: a signature was an apple cake because they're like, you 309 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 4: know you bob for apples on Halloween. 310 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no no. The last time someone bob for 311 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 2: an apple was nineteen seventy nine. This is kids are drowning. 312 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 2: Did you ever do it when you were a kid. 313 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 2: I feel like it was like at a church activity once. 314 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 4: It is so unpleasant. Of course, it's your waterboarding yourself. 315 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 4: It's like horrible and. 316 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 2: No one's mouth is that big. 317 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 4: No, and then you're just like you're just I mean, 318 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 4: that's one of those things where it's like COVID has 319 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 4: ended apple bobbing forever. 320 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 2: Of course, okay, and. 321 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 4: Then so then the the thing that really made me 322 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 4: upset was the the tech Nickel Challenge was s'mores. And 323 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 4: the s'mores that they presented were round like they were 324 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 4: like you make a round marsh marshmallow between two round 325 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 4: digestive biscuits with chocolate. Ganash and Paul Hollywood kept saying like, 326 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 4: and it. 327 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 3: Has to be neat as a pin. And it's like, no, 328 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 3: that's you eat s'mores with dirty, dirty fingers. 329 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 4: That's that is cannon. 330 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 2: You know it, like your hands are going to be filed. 331 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 2: Your hands are already filthy and they're gonna be even 332 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 2: dirty or after you read it, yes, and you sqush 333 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 2: it down. 334 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 3: That's the whole. 335 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 4: And you have to have way more gram cracker than 336 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 4: the marshmallow because you push it down. But the way 337 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 4: they did it was it was like a tall ass 338 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 4: two inch marshmallow that went right to the edge of 339 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 4: the cookie, so if you squeezed it down it would. 340 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 2: Have just fall out. It was very upsetting. It's not recognizable. 341 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 2: It is a smore to me. 342 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 4: And also s'mores are not for Halloween. They're they're like 343 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 4: weird way of connecting it was they were like more, 344 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 4: which you might eat sitting around a campfire telling scary stories, 345 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 4: which it was like a stretch and then a stretch no, 346 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 4: And then the showstopper was. 347 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:16,479 Speaker 1: M you. 348 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:20,479 Speaker 4: They had to make a hanging lantern dessert and there 349 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 4: was like a jackal lantern, but not a jackal lantern. 350 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 2: And why hanging So correct me if I'm wrong, but 351 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 2: this the hanging ends up being there's there are items 352 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 2: that are part of the cake that are not that. 353 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,199 Speaker 3: Are inedible, like hooks and stuff. 354 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 2: This is the show. This is why we've got to 355 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 2: get rid of the show. Stop around entirely, because every 356 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 2: time I'm like, most of that it's not even edible. 357 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 2: What what are we doing? This is now a sculpture competition. 358 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 4: I do like when they're like it's you have to 359 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 4: make a cake with a bunch of different layers, and 360 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 4: then I'm like, ooh, I'd eat that, right And they 361 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 4: did one that I was like, I know this makes 362 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 4: it sound like I smoke so much pot and I don't, 363 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 4: but I was like, I would definitely want to eat that. 364 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 4: They had one that was like the do you remember 365 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 4: when they did the like I forget what it's called. 366 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 3: It's like a schmrgen. 367 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 4: Torten or whatever, like savory sandwich, the savory sandwich case, yes, 368 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 4: where it's just like cream cheese and like tomatoes and 369 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 4: stuff and just like a bunch of savory stuff. And 370 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 4: I was like, I want that. I want that right now, 371 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 4: and I know it probably does not taste as good 372 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 4: as it looks. 373 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 2: Those things were mortifying to me. The idea of like 374 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 2: and they do this at least once a season where 375 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 2: it's just like here's a bunch of wet meat in 376 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 2: between pastry. The British have. That's one thing that they 377 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 2: get wrong every time. 378 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 4: I mean, it's really remarkable that we are all enthralled 379 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 4: by a show about British food, and I think it 380 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:46,959 Speaker 4: is telling that the best winners of that show are like, 381 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 4: you know, last year it was like an Italian guy. 382 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 4: It's always have a thick non British. 383 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 2: It's not like a Scottish gun. No, let me ask 384 00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 2: you this. Do you feel like the equality of Bake 385 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 2: been getting worse over the years or better? 386 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 3: Like you think maybe they're running out of people? 387 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 2: Yes, I absolutely or my memory is just like gotten 388 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 2: too because I've now been watching it since twenty sixteen, probably, 389 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 2: and I remember the baker's being really good. 390 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 4: You know what I think happens though, I think by 391 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 4: the end of the season they're all better, and I 392 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 4: think you remember them when they're like done learning on 393 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 4: the show, right, and they really like to reward people 394 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 4: for getting better on the show. I think what's gonna 395 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 4: happen is by the end of the season, all of 396 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 4: those bakers are going to be better. 397 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 2: Interesting. I also I do think that they're doing a 398 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 2: little bit more stunt casting where they'll bring in somebody 399 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 2: they're like, this person's pretty bad, and they're probably going 400 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 2: to be bad the entire time, don't you think. I 401 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 2: feel like there are people are like, you have no 402 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 2: business being on a baking. 403 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 3: Show, right, It always stresses me out so hard. Do 404 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 3: you remember Toby? 405 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 4: He's my favorite contestant on any reality show ever? 406 00:19:58,680 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 2: What did he do? 407 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 4: He was on he was the first person eliminated from 408 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 4: like season six. 409 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:07,360 Speaker 3: Or something, and it was like he just had. 410 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 4: The worst weekend of anyone in the tenth ever where 411 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 4: it was like he puts salt instead of sugar in 412 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 4: one of his bakes, and just as the day went on, 413 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 4: just more and more band aids started appearing on his fingers. 414 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 3: By the end, his fans were just covered. 415 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 2: That sounds vaguely familiar to me, and that kind of 416 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 2: disproves my theory. I guess season six that's a long time, I. 417 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 3: Mean, and he got eliminated right away, but it is. 418 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 4: I do feel like we're in a weird mid season 419 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 4: low where the challenges are harder than the bakers are 420 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 4: up to. 421 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 2: Right, But I think they're gonna pull out of it. 422 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 2: Do you have a pick of who's going to win? 423 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 2: I don't know. 424 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 4: So much changes in the last few weeks. I'm never 425 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 4: right about who's gonna win. But I do have like 426 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 4: who I want to be in the final three. Oh, 427 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,199 Speaker 4: and I don't know. 428 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 2: If I should say it's up to you. That's I mean, 429 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 2: that's obviously a very private piece of information. 430 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 4: I want Shabira Yanush and Sandro okay. 431 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,479 Speaker 2: And I don't know anyone's name on the show. I 432 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 2: know there's the lady with pink hair. I know there's 433 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,439 Speaker 2: the lady who worked for Boris Johnson, which really was 434 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 2: a letdown. Immediately. 435 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was like, oh, I have to root against 436 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 4: you for the entire season. 437 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 2: And I was so on board with her. I was like, 438 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 2: this lady's gonna be great, and then she used that 439 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 2: piece of information. It's like, oh no. 440 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it's like, oh, you aren't good at baking 441 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 4: because you can't sleep at night? 442 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 3: Is that why? 443 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 2: I mean? I try initias like maybe she was like 444 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 2: kind of a reluctant civil servant that was kind of 445 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 2: trapped in the system, but then eventually needed to tell. 446 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 4: Us that, right, that was the case, but they didn't, 447 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 4: and so we have to assume the worst because we're Americans, 448 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 4: we're not British. 449 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 2: But yeah, I feel like there's the woman who is Malaysian, 450 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 2: who's I think it's love her. 451 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 3: I love her. 452 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 4: She's so good, she's so good, but she's stumbled enough 453 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 4: that I would believe her arc winning it right, right. 454 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,479 Speaker 4: They never I feel like whenever there's a front runner, 455 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 4: like what was that Jurgen, it was like Jurgen didn't 456 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 4: win because he was just perfect out of the gate 457 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 4: and just did so well. 458 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 3: And then when he started to stumble, it was like he. 459 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 2: Came in over prepared but didn't have it. Didn't couldn't. 460 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,439 Speaker 4: She didn't grow on the show. They want they like 461 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 4: a comeback. I think Shabira could go all the way 462 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 4: because she also just has like yeah, it does such 463 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 4: interesting stuff and is very charming. 464 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 3: And then jan USh is the Polish guy. 465 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 2: Oh of course I love her. 466 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, Yanush is great and he's doing very well and 467 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 4: he's funny, and I think like him and Matt Lucas 468 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 4: have good banter. That's like the only time when I 469 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 4: actually really like watching Matt Lucas on the show is 470 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,120 Speaker 4: when he's talking to Yanush. The rest of the time, 471 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 4: I'm like not having a good time. 472 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 2: With him this season. 473 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 4: But uh, and then Sandro is that like he's I 474 00:22:56,280 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 4: want to say, he's like from Switzerland and he's like tall, 475 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 4: like really muscly. Yeah yeah, with the like shaved lines 476 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 4: and his eyebrows. 477 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like I may have just learned that 478 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 2: his last name is Farmhouse, but I could be wrong. 479 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 2: I'm gonna look that. 480 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 3: It sounds like something you dreamed. 481 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 2: Remind me of his first name, Sandro. 482 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 5: I mean, the internet's working a little slow right now, 483 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 5: but immediately the first thing I put into Google was 484 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 5: Sandro Farmhouse and it auto populated with shirtless right after. 485 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 4: So that's definitely him. His name is Sandro Farmhouse. All right, sure, fine, okay, Britain. 486 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,239 Speaker 4: Do you ever watch Toast of London? I love I 487 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,439 Speaker 4: love London, but whenever something that I like, that's a 488 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,719 Speaker 4: Toast of London, it's a sand farmhouse. 489 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 2: Of course. 490 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 3: We stayed in a. 491 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 4: Hotel in West Virginia a few months ago and on 492 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 4: the wall there was like, you know, like it was 493 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 4: like a tennis It was like a big golf resort, 494 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 4: and so there was like a thing down in the 495 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 4: like one of the game room that was like the 496 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:05,239 Speaker 4: activities director and his name was Josh Beveridge, And I 497 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 4: was like that is the most the most toast of 498 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 4: London name I've ever seen in a while. 499 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,679 Speaker 2: I was going through my notesapp recently and at some 500 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,199 Speaker 2: point in the past I had written down a character 501 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 2: name that I really want to use at some point, 502 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 2: Nords from Brunette, which I think is a perfect name. 503 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 3: That's a very that's a very good name. 504 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, okay, so we've taught I mentioned I want 505 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 2: to talk about two TV shows. The other one I'm 506 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 2: so far behind at this point. Sister Wives. Oh yes, 507 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 2: I watched for a while. 508 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 3: They dropped out for like ten seasons or something, right. 509 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 2: Yes, but now it's been recently re recommended to me. 510 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 2: Or it's like you have to see what's going. 511 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 3: On because one of the wives is leaving. 512 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 2: Yes, and they're filming the whole thing themselves or something. 513 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so it's very weird. So okay, Sister Wives. 514 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 4: If you don't know, is that TLC reality show that 515 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 4: they came out with, Like as soon as the show 516 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 4: Big Love came out on HBO, that was it's about 517 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 4: a polygamist and his. 518 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 3: Three then four wives. 519 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 4: I think like season one he was courting his fourth wife, 520 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 4: and it's there in season seventeen, now and one of his. 521 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 3: Wives is leaving him. 522 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 4: But I think they filmed this season like a year 523 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 4: ago because that with COVID protocols and everything, like there's 524 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 4: a bunch of scenes that they're just filming themselves on 525 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 4: their phone. 526 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 2: It's weird. 527 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 4: It's very weird, and it's also honestly pretty surprising. I 528 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:34,439 Speaker 4: think COVID is what ended that marriage because and in 529 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 4: a very surprising way, because obviously Cody Brown, who's the 530 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 4: husband who's like the biggest douche in the world looking man, alive, 531 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:48,439 Speaker 4: scariest looking man with the most like upsetting attachment to 532 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:55,360 Speaker 4: his horrible hair, and he is clearly like a very conservative, 533 00:25:55,880 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 4: like ex Mormon, but like because the Mormon were too 534 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 4: progressive for him, and like very much full of shit, 535 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 4: horrible man. But like he's the one in the family 536 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 4: who's like, I do not want to get COVID. 537 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 2: Isn't that episodic? It's so weird? So have you been watching it? 538 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 2: I'm like, I've only watched I think the first episode 539 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 2: of this new season, and it's weird. Like, yeah, do 540 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 2: you think he's really cautious because he's also not vaccinated. 541 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 3: I think he's vaccinated. 542 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 4: The way I talked about it is that, yeah, like 543 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 4: I think he's vaccinated. I think he just had a 544 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 4: weird moment of clarity about it. 545 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 2: But it's also weird because. 546 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 4: It's like, dude, you have eighteen children at least or 547 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 4: something like, I don't know how you are. But also 548 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 4: it seems like maybe I do think that his wives 549 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,479 Speaker 4: who did not want to follow his protocols were like 550 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,360 Speaker 4: some of them were wrong, and we're probably taking risks 551 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 4: than like they shouldn't. But I also think he was 552 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,479 Speaker 4: maybe using it as an excuse to spend more time 553 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 4: at Robin's house because that's his favorite life. 554 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 2: And Robin is the newest wife. 555 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 3: She's the newest wife. 556 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, and the one who's divorcing him is Christine. 557 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 3: And it's so weird because it's like I just have 558 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,959 Speaker 3: I've like completely. 559 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 4: Forgot about this show for a really long time, and 560 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 4: then I was like, I need to check in. 561 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 2: And here. 562 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 4: The great thing about this show is you really can 563 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 4: check in at any point. You'll never miss anything because 564 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 4: if anything interesting happens, they will tell you about it 565 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 4: in every episode over and over again, before and after 566 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,439 Speaker 4: every commercial break, and they'll show you flashbacks to the 567 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 4: other episode, like there is no reason to You do 568 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 4: not need to be like a a religious viewer of them, 569 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 4: like it is. They'll catch you up if anything happens. 570 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 2: Yes, one thing happens a season. Thank god, something happened. 571 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 2: If we have to talk about this as much as humably. 572 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 4: Fall, Yes, But yeah, Christine left in part because like 573 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 4: he wasn't spending time with her and her children, but 574 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 4: also he told her that he was never attracted to 575 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 4: her and that he was kind of talked into marrying 576 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 4: her like other people in the church, like because she 577 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,159 Speaker 4: was from like a good, you know, polygamist family. 578 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 3: And I'm really enjoying watching her leave him. 579 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,439 Speaker 4: Because it's the thing that you've been asking all of 580 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 4: them to do this entire time, because he's not he 581 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 4: doesn't deserve four wives, and he's like the least desirable 582 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 4: person on earth. 583 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 2: Yes, his face looks like he's just been standing in 584 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,439 Speaker 2: a wind tunnel for ten years. It's so much beaten. 585 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 4: You know what's fucked up, though, is they'll show like 586 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 4: photos of him at their weddings and I'm like, he 587 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 4: was hot. 588 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 2: He was hot. 589 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 4: I mean it's like before he got the goatee, but 590 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 4: he was like a good looking blonde football player, just 591 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 4: like classic corn fed American white guy. Right, and then 592 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 4: just somehow he like all of the ways in which 593 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 4: he's bad looking are just the things that he chose 594 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 4: for his. 595 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 3: Own head, you know what I mean. Like none of 596 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 3: it has to do with his natural gifts. 597 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 4: It's all like I picked the worst facial hair and 598 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 4: the worst hairstyle, and I tan too much. Like all 599 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 4: of it is stuff that you can hold him directly responsible. 600 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 2: Just looks like a mask and wig at this point, 601 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 2: it's so bizarre. Show me him for Halloween. 602 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,479 Speaker 4: I don't have a costume yet. Oh, it would be 603 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 4: really upset. 604 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 2: It would require it would require like a bald cap 605 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 2: and a wig. Strange. 606 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's one of those things where it's like he 607 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 4: in his confessionals always looks like he has more hair 608 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 4: than he actually does because he refuses to be seen 609 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 4: in profile and the confessionals, and he like. 610 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 3: Parts his hair in a very particular way. 611 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 4: It's oh man, yeah really, but I'm glad that you're 612 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:52,719 Speaker 4: watching it. 613 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 3: I didn't think anyone else was watching. 614 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 2: I'm glad to have an excuse to watch it again. 615 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm back with Cody the gang. 616 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's a bummer because it's like, I would 617 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 4: love to be rooting more for Christine leaving, but it's 618 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 4: like her exit plan is just being in a bunch 619 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 4: of MLMs and like, and you know, it works if 620 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 4: you're on TV and you can get like a million 621 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 4: idiots in your downline. 622 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 2: But like, oh, it's really upset the choices these people 623 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 2: are making. 624 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm like, you're making the right choice for the 625 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 4: wrong reason where it's like you're leaving Cody over COVID. 626 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 2: Like that's the thing that was your life to say, 627 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 2: good choices made. Yeah, the one. 628 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 3: Thing he did right in this entire marriage. 629 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 2: Oh, okay, so we've got I'm so glad we were 630 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 2: able to cover those two topics. 631 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, very important. I'm really happy to speak to you 632 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 4: about both of them. 633 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, both beautiful things. Unfortunately I have to hit the 634 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 2: brakes for something less pleasant. Oh no, Emily, the podcast 635 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 2: is called I said no Gifts, right. I was so 636 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 2: excited for you to be here. I the last time 637 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 2: I saw you, you were actually here in the backyard 638 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 2: taking a donut home to Peter. That's true. 639 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, went over huge, by the way, last time I 640 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 4: was here I had just left the house after eating 641 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 4: dinner and I had asked my husband what he wanted 642 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 4: for dinner, and he jokingly said donuts, and then we 643 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 4: ate something else. And then I came here and there 644 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 4: were donuts here and I was like, I'm going to 645 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 4: bring one of these home and it's gonna be such 646 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 4: a huge hit. 647 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 3: And it got a laugh. 648 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 2: It's a good donut. 649 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a good donut dough and he he 650 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 4: didn't need it that day. He had the next day, 651 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 4: but it was like, but he did acknowledge it was 652 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 4: a good bit. I was very dramatic and revealing it 653 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 4: to him. 654 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 2: But yeah, that was a nice time in the backyard 655 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 2: with you. I thought this was gonna be a nice 656 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 2: time and then I see you come up the driveway 657 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 2: holding a bag. Yeah, I'm just going to call a 658 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 2: spade a spade. This is a gift for me, is 659 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 2: it not? 660 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 4: It I want to dance around it, but I am 661 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 4: really out of shape. It is a gift for you, 662 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 4: but it's it's not for today, it's for a different 663 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 4: It's for because it's for your birthday. It's a birthday present. 664 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 4: So this is unrelated to the podcast. I did not 665 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 4: bring you a gift for the podcast. 666 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 667 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 4: But it's a really bad coincidence that it that it arrived. 668 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 2: Now, your timing couldn't be worse. 669 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 3: No, it really could not. 670 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 2: I mean it could have had you ejected from the show. 671 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, And you know what I thought about that when 672 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:31,719 Speaker 4: I was driving here, and I was like, but I 673 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 4: have it now, and I have to get it out 674 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 4: of my car. My car is just tacked to the wall, 675 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 4: the wall with other items and other gifts that I'm delivering. 676 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 2: You're in the middle of a movie. 677 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 3: I'm doing a little bit. 678 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 4: I'm in my Santa Fez of Adulthood right now, where 679 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 4: I just sort of traveling around delivering presents to people. 680 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 4: I'm working on the outfit to build classic red and white, 681 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 4: but it feels like a lot of other motifs have 682 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 4: already been claimed, so I'm open to suggestions. 683 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 2: Okay, well then, I mean, that's nice, it's unconventional, it's 684 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 2: a nice surprise. It is for my birthday, which was 685 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 2: It's sometimes passed since my birthday, which is unfortunate. But 686 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 2: I'm happy to open it here on the podcast. 687 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 6: I think that's a good idea. 688 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 2: Okay, let's get into it. It's a rather tall bag. 689 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I will admit that this is a gift bag 690 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 4: that has been in my family for generations. This has 691 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 4: been going in and out of my gift wrapping tepperware 692 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 4: for years. 693 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 2: I support that fully. 694 00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 3: Me and my husband just hand it to each other 695 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 3: every few months. 696 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 2: I feel like, if you get a decent, like quality 697 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 2: gift bag, use it as long as possible. 698 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. What, there was a tradition in my family. 699 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 4: But it was like my grandmother got remarried when I 700 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 4: was eight, and so I got like a new grandpa 701 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 4: and he had a bunch of you know, kids and grandkids, 702 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,720 Speaker 4: and they had their own family traditions that we were 703 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 4: brought in on, and one of them was that his 704 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 4: late wife, who he was married to before my grandmother 705 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:31,800 Speaker 4: had made this gift wrap box. So she had taken 706 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 4: like a like a wardrobe box and covered it like 707 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 4: she had upholstered it basically in well, no, it's like 708 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 4: she had sewn like a cloth cover with like a ribbon. 709 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 3: And it became a game in their family. 710 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 4: That every year at Christmas, whoever got a gift in 711 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 4: that box was the loser and had to hold onto 712 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 4: the box for their next year. 713 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 3: And I really, I really like. 714 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 2: That beautiful w to keep her memory alive. 715 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I never met her. This is all I 716 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 3: knew about her. 717 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 2: That sort of thing sounds almost like a cursed box. 718 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I like. 719 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 4: I like a family tradition where everyone just sort of 720 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 4: points and laughs on someone every year. 721 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 2: I think you have to hang on to it for 722 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 2: an entire year. Yes, yeah, I think I love reusable wrap. 723 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 4: This one is maybe not going to be reasonable much longer. 724 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 4: I have noticed something. 725 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 2: Like it probably could be ironed at this point. It's 726 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,360 Speaker 2: a little wrinkly, but yes, it's a gift bag. Nonetheless, 727 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 2: I'm going to reach in. 728 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 4: Okay, be careful with I'm going to pull one of 729 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 4: the things out because it needs to remain in a 730 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 4: certain position. 731 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 3: But you can take the other thing out. 732 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 2: Okay, take this out first, Yeah, okay taking out what? 733 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 2: This is such a foreign object. 734 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 4: This is easily the item I have gifted most because 735 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 4: it is, in my opinion, dollar for dollar, the most 736 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 4: valuable thing I've ever bought. 737 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 3: It is the Carson bug View. 738 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 4: It is a one handed bug catcher and magnifier. So 739 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 4: you know the concept of like putting a cup over 740 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 4: above and then sliding a paper underneath it. 741 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,280 Speaker 3: Right, this does that but with one hand. 742 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 4: Oh this is and so you hold it and you 743 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 4: it's got a little thumb thing, and you put it 744 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,880 Speaker 4: over the bug, and then you slide your thumb with 745 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 4: the same hand that's holding it. And then once it's trapped, 746 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,360 Speaker 4: you can look at it through the magnifying glass on 747 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 4: the chamber. But then the best part about it is 748 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 4: once it's trapped and you take it outside. It's also 749 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 4: shaped like a lacrosse stick, so when you open it 750 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,280 Speaker 4: you can get some really good air flinging theme across 751 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:47,720 Speaker 4: the yard. 752 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 2: How did you learn of this object? 753 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,720 Speaker 3: I saw it on a gift guide. Really, I was looking. 754 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 4: I mean, so I'm an ant and I have I 755 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,840 Speaker 4: have no idea what children like, and so every year 756 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,359 Speaker 4: for birthdays and Christmas, I'm looking up gifts four x 757 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 4: year old, gifts for four year olds, and so this 758 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 4: I saw on a on a list for like gifts 759 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,319 Speaker 4: for kids for Christmas, and I was like, I want 760 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:15,880 Speaker 4: that for me. 761 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 2: This is fully for adults and we use it all 762 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 2: the time. What have you caught in yours? 763 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 4: Just any bug that's in the house, like just I mean, 764 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 4: it's really exciting to use it on flies, because that's 765 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 4: that's hunting. 766 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,719 Speaker 2: You're able to How are you? You have to be 767 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:34,280 Speaker 2: so fast? 768 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 4: I feel like for them you have to wait for 769 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 4: them to land on the window to die. 770 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 3: I mean spiders are easy. Spiders are easy. 771 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 4: I feel like I've used it on Those are the 772 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 4: two main ones. Any like big flying bug that stops. 773 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,439 Speaker 4: If you can just slowly creep toward it, you can 774 00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 4: you can trap it. 775 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 3: But yeah, it's one. It's indispensable. It is. 776 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,439 Speaker 4: My husband really wanted me to say this. It's called 777 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 4: the Carson bug you because you can look at some 778 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:13,360 Speaker 4: really weird wild stuff in it. And I have fulfilled 779 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,759 Speaker 4: my contractual obligation to say that he invented. 780 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:22,319 Speaker 2: Has there been any particular bug that's been interesting under 781 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 2: like really interesting under the magnifying glass. No, they've all sucked. 782 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:30,440 Speaker 3: I mean. 783 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 4: The thing is, it's like the idea for kids is 784 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:34,879 Speaker 4: like you're supposed to take it out in your yard 785 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 4: and like find some, but I mostly just do it 786 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 4: for bugs I want to get rid of. 787 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,759 Speaker 2: Okay, So are you someone who's scared of bugs when 788 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 2: they're around the house, spiders, that sort of thing, or 789 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 2: doesn't really bother you. 790 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 4: It's more that, like, as someone with some minor hoarding tendencies, 791 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:58,400 Speaker 4: I know that I cannot accustom myself to their presence 792 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 4: or soon it'll be out of control, right, you know 793 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 4: what I mean, Like I nip it in the bud, 794 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,240 Speaker 4: otherwise I'll I'll stop seeing them. 795 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,400 Speaker 2: Get cozy with the bugs, and suddenly we have a problem. 796 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,879 Speaker 4: We're like our house is just like not sealed in 797 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 4: any place like zone. There's a few places in the 798 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 4: house where you can sort of see the outside kind 799 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,359 Speaker 4: of through the wall, and you shouldn't be able to 800 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 4: and so we have a bug problem. 801 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 3: And so it's it's just like we're constantly you know. 802 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,800 Speaker 2: No, I'm not particularly scared of bugs. Jim my boyfriend 803 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 2: is terrified of almost all of them. So I have 804 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,800 Speaker 2: to take care of the situation all the time. Okay, 805 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 2: this is going to be perfect for me. Oh good? Yeah. 806 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 4: I mean I will say, like, I'm not afraid of bugs. 807 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 3: I find them a little gross and intrusive. 808 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 4: I think my husband gets like angrier at them being 809 00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,439 Speaker 4: in the house, Like he has like a salt gun 810 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,800 Speaker 4: that he'll sho them with, and just like he gets 811 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 4: like I think a little bit more frustrated than I do. 812 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,840 Speaker 3: But I think I'm also just grosser than he is. 813 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 2: In general. When I see a bug in the house, 814 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,439 Speaker 2: I feel like it's like a failure on my part. 815 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,920 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I've allowed my house to become dirty. 816 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 2: I'm like, now I'm a slob. That's the immediate feeling 817 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,239 Speaker 2: I have anytime I see a bug where I'm like, yeah, oh, 818 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:25,160 Speaker 2: now I've really left. 819 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 4: There's a part of me where I'm like, I have 820 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:28,799 Speaker 4: to get rid of it before he sees that there's 821 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,400 Speaker 4: a bug in here, because then he'll know I'm gross. 822 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:38,279 Speaker 2: What's your stance on killing a bug? I've done it 823 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:39,359 Speaker 2: quite a bit. 824 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 4: The thing I do like about the Carson bug view 825 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 4: is it gives you another alternative to easily get them 826 00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 4: out of the house without killing them. I do wonder sometimes, 827 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 4: like why I feel comfortable killing bugs right like I shouldn't. 828 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,160 Speaker 4: But then I'm also I'm like, their brains are like 829 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:05,239 Speaker 4: that big? How much how much true? Like you know, 830 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,799 Speaker 4: spirit and intelligence? Am I really snuffing out? 831 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:09,279 Speaker 3: Not that much? 832 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,960 Speaker 2: And also as a gardener, I kill so many huge gardens. 833 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,800 Speaker 2: They're the enemy right there, after all of your plants. 834 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 4: They are, And the other day I was in I 835 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 4: don't have a garden right now because we're doing construction 836 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,279 Speaker 4: and we're like, we're building something where my garden was, 837 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,279 Speaker 4: and it's the whole thing. But so I started volunteering 838 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 4: at a community garden and the other day we were 839 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 4: getting ready to like plant in one of their beds, 840 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,879 Speaker 4: and we just like it had just been sitting there 841 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 4: for I didn't know how long. It was very dry, 842 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,759 Speaker 4: and so we just like started spraying it with water 843 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,720 Speaker 4: to get ready to plant there, and just millions of ants, 844 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 4: all of them carrying eggs, pouring out of the ground, just. 845 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 3: Like, oh I do, what do I do? 846 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,560 Speaker 4: Just like panicking and like running around where it was 847 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,319 Speaker 4: just like the whole thing was covered, and I just 848 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,120 Speaker 4: got the bottle of neem oil and I just sprayed 849 00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,279 Speaker 4: until they were all dead. And I was like, this 850 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,600 Speaker 4: is the most I've ever killed in one day of 851 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:04,439 Speaker 4: any day of my life. 852 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,400 Speaker 2: You're the destroyer, yes, you're truly. 853 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:10,919 Speaker 3: I'm a dark and evil god. 854 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 2: But with ants I fully support. There's so many of 855 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,400 Speaker 2: them and they're just so bad. 856 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,360 Speaker 4: I feel like once a week there's a news story 857 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,520 Speaker 4: that's like did you know that if you put all 858 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,719 Speaker 4: of the ants in the world in a pile, they'd 859 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,760 Speaker 4: be heavier than the moon. 860 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:29,759 Speaker 2: I don't want to know that. 861 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 3: Stop telling me how there are. 862 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,960 Speaker 2: Who's doing this sort of research. I don't need to 863 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,719 Speaker 2: know how heavy all are ants are. 864 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,560 Speaker 4: Some kind of perverb is just there counting ants and 865 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,280 Speaker 4: being there's more. 866 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 2: Wow, I'm so excited to use this. What a device. 867 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:54,040 Speaker 4: And then there's another gift that I realized is sort 868 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,400 Speaker 4: of the opposite of the. 869 00:42:58,400 --> 00:42:58,880 Speaker 2: Discussion. 870 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,880 Speaker 4: Just to get you started, you know how when people 871 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 4: give you like an electronic and then the batteries that 872 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:05,799 Speaker 4: go with it. 873 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,440 Speaker 2: Here's your your DVD player and a copy of Avatar. 874 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:10,480 Speaker 2: This is. 875 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,239 Speaker 3: What I think we might have spoken about this. 876 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:18,440 Speaker 4: This is a narrow a California native narrow leaf milkweed 877 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,000 Speaker 4: that I got grow from seed, the purpose of which 878 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:23,320 Speaker 4: is to attract more. 879 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,280 Speaker 3: Bugs into your life, because a lot of bugs. 880 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:31,839 Speaker 4: This is the only food that monarch butterflies, these are 881 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:37,080 Speaker 4: caterpillars eat, So I got really into monarch butterflies this 882 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 4: year because again I couldn't garden. So I was like, 883 00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,279 Speaker 4: what I'll do is I'll prepare for when I can 884 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,319 Speaker 4: garden again, and I'll start I knew I wanted to 885 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,839 Speaker 4: plant some milkweed because they're endangered. 886 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:52,400 Speaker 3: And apparently there's this whole thing where. 887 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:56,120 Speaker 4: Like there's tropical milkweed and then there's native milkweed, and 888 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,040 Speaker 4: tropical milkweed is the most common, and you're not supposed 889 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,359 Speaker 4: to plant it because it confuses them about where they're 890 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:08,640 Speaker 4: supposed to beg Yeah, but because it like is sort 891 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:12,680 Speaker 4: of perennial, it confuses them and so you're only supposed 892 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,520 Speaker 4: to do like climate appropriate. And so this is a 893 00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 4: climate appropriate milkweed plant, and it will attract monarch butterfly. 894 00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:21,720 Speaker 3: Put it in the ground. 895 00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:27,280 Speaker 4: Now next late spring you'll have caterpillars. 896 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,319 Speaker 2: And we're like, is this something I should put in 897 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,759 Speaker 2: my like vegetable garden bed or is like groundcover? What 898 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:34,000 Speaker 2: sort of I. 899 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:38,480 Speaker 3: Think it's like you should consider it shrubbery. Consider it shrubbery. 900 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:41,040 Speaker 2: How And is the one that when you get the 901 00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:42,520 Speaker 2: milk on you No. 902 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,600 Speaker 3: I think that's fire sticks, you know those ones that? 903 00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean milk weed does it is called 904 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,480 Speaker 4: milkweed because when you like snap it, it's. 905 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,520 Speaker 2: Milk gross slime. And yes, it's got what. 906 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:54,799 Speaker 3: It's got milk in there. 907 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:59,240 Speaker 4: For some reason, we're like two months two months away 908 00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,480 Speaker 4: from that being an option at coffee shops. 909 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:04,440 Speaker 2: We should get in on that. Yeah. 910 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,200 Speaker 4: But yes, so this is a very small plant, but 911 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:08,920 Speaker 4: if you put it in the ground, it will be 912 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,879 Speaker 4: big enough for caterpillars by next year. 913 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:13,799 Speaker 2: And how much care do I need to put into 914 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:19,759 Speaker 2: this thing? So I would say, google it. I think 915 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,520 Speaker 2: water it every other day. Okay, maybe even less because 916 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,279 Speaker 2: it's been raining and it's been cool. But did you, 917 00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:28,240 Speaker 2: uh plant it from seed? 918 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:29,680 Speaker 3: I grew this from seed? 919 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:30,680 Speaker 2: Yes, I grew up from seed. 920 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,080 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, So I bought I bought some seeds and 921 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,920 Speaker 4: I started a bunch because my goal was to have 922 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,800 Speaker 4: a bunch that I could give out to my neighbors 923 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 4: to have them plant them so that we could make 924 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:41,320 Speaker 4: a little highway in the neighborhood. 925 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:42,279 Speaker 2: That's beautiful. 926 00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:46,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I reared like four monarchs from like caterpillar 927 00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:47,719 Speaker 4: to butterfly this year. 928 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:48,800 Speaker 3: It was really exciting. 929 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:50,200 Speaker 2: And then sent them off into the world. 930 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:51,560 Speaker 3: And sent them off into the world. 931 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:56,520 Speaker 4: They are now, I mean probably dead, they're almost certainly. 932 00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:56,960 Speaker 2: Dead at this point. 933 00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, which is you know, you just have to accept 934 00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:02,279 Speaker 4: It's one of the lessons of the milk I mean 935 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,600 Speaker 4: the other thing too, is that like there's a lot 936 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:08,279 Speaker 4: of mixed information about how you're supposed to like interact 937 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,960 Speaker 4: with them, because like you're not supposed to rear them 938 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,040 Speaker 4: inside because then they don't know how to deal with 939 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 4: the weather. 940 00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,879 Speaker 2: These butterflies and likeughen up. 941 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,080 Speaker 4: And there's a lot of warnings online that are like, 942 00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,640 Speaker 4: do not rear butterflies because then they'll get sick, they'll 943 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,640 Speaker 4: be crowded together, and a lot of those warnings are 944 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:26,680 Speaker 4: aimed at the people who are like doing hundreds of 945 00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:30,080 Speaker 4: them at a time. And so I immediately like I 946 00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,920 Speaker 4: had I had gotten an enclosure, which is basically just 947 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,600 Speaker 4: like a mesh hamper they can put the milkweed inside 948 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,879 Speaker 4: of and then they build their crystalis in there and 949 00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,720 Speaker 4: you get to watch the whole thing happen and it's amazing. 950 00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,120 Speaker 4: But then I saw something online that was like you 951 00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:44,759 Speaker 4: were not supposed to rear them, and I was like, Okay, 952 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,080 Speaker 4: I'll let nature take its course. And at that point, 953 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,080 Speaker 4: I had new eggs that had been laid on my 954 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,880 Speaker 4: milkweed plants, and I had like seventeen caterpillars, and I 955 00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,360 Speaker 4: was like, I am going to let nature take its course, 956 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:56,560 Speaker 4: I am not going to interfere. 957 00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,200 Speaker 3: I'm not going to use the enclosure again. 958 00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,960 Speaker 4: At that point, I had reared like three up until 959 00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:05,040 Speaker 4: like emergence, and so I was like, i've it's okay, 960 00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,680 Speaker 4: it's fine. And then one day I saw a wasp 961 00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:12,160 Speaker 4: buzzing around the plants, and I two hours later I 962 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,040 Speaker 4: went out there and it had eaten all but one 963 00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:14,399 Speaker 4: of them. 964 00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,920 Speaker 2: Oh like, wasps so dark? 965 00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:21,560 Speaker 4: Carve your caterpillars up and then take their like remains away, 966 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:25,120 Speaker 4: They're so evil. And I then I panicked and I 967 00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:26,239 Speaker 4: went full finding. 968 00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:29,080 Speaker 3: Nemo, like because you know in the beginning of that movie. 969 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,720 Speaker 4: Is like there's like hundreds of eggs and then a 970 00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,640 Speaker 4: like a swordfish comes and eats all but one of them, 971 00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,600 Speaker 4: and that's Nemo. And so I took the last caterpillar 972 00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,120 Speaker 4: and I put it back in the enclosure, and I 973 00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,200 Speaker 4: was like, you will not die, you will not die 974 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:46,000 Speaker 4: on my watch, but you will probably need more than 975 00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,640 Speaker 4: this one plant, because once they arrive, they eat. 976 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,160 Speaker 2: This sh crazy, yeah, turn it into a sizzler. 977 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,879 Speaker 3: The very Hungry Caterpillar is. 978 00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:59,920 Speaker 2: It's a documentary, absolutely a documentary. I mean, speaking of wasp, 979 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,400 Speaker 2: what's do you have any idea about the purpose of 980 00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:06,120 Speaker 2: a like of nature. What is a wasp adding to 981 00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:09,760 Speaker 2: any of our lives? I think they pollinate, They do pollinate, 982 00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:10,960 Speaker 2: and they better pollinate. 983 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:16,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they kill bugs. I don't know what it's like. 984 00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,000 Speaker 4: It does seem like there are some superfluous bugs that 985 00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:21,200 Speaker 4: we should be able to get rid. 986 00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,359 Speaker 2: Of, like adding nothing to any of our lives and 987 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:25,480 Speaker 2: just being nuisances. 988 00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,320 Speaker 4: But I have to believe that like birds eat them. 989 00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:29,800 Speaker 2: But birds aren't eating a wasp. 990 00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:34,040 Speaker 3: They might be a tough one. It's like those are 991 00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,319 Speaker 3: the birds that are like, how spicy do you want it? 992 00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:37,840 Speaker 3: Like a knife? 993 00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:43,760 Speaker 2: They're the most And is a wasp different from a hornet? 994 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,239 Speaker 2: I know you're not a bug exter, but I'd like 995 00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:47,640 Speaker 2: to see if somebody. 996 00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,919 Speaker 3: Really have given you every reason they think that I am. 997 00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,680 Speaker 4: I'm going on and on about the cars above you 998 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:54,120 Speaker 4: as if I am. 999 00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:55,160 Speaker 2: I know you care. 1000 00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,440 Speaker 4: Has anyone tried to sell you so hard on the 1001 00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,720 Speaker 4: gift that they brought you? 1002 00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:06,000 Speaker 2: No? But but this most I mean, the sale wasn't required. 1003 00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:08,600 Speaker 4: Most other gifts you can tell why they're gonna be 1004 00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,800 Speaker 4: useful to you without the explanation. 1005 00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,080 Speaker 2: But see, that's actually not true. This one. I was like, oh, 1006 00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,880 Speaker 2: I love this, what a fun novelty at the very least, right, 1007 00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:17,520 Speaker 2: you didn't have to sell it. You could have. You 1008 00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,560 Speaker 2: could have been just like dropped out on my lap 1009 00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:20,799 Speaker 2: and been like, you know what this is. 1010 00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:24,080 Speaker 3: But it's the Carson bug View. 1011 00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,840 Speaker 4: The fact that it's called the bug View, and and 1012 00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:29,880 Speaker 4: then in small letters it says bug catcher. 1013 00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,080 Speaker 3: It's like the only person who's. 1014 00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,279 Speaker 4: Really I'm like, I'm not looking at the bugs very 1015 00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:36,040 Speaker 4: much at all. 1016 00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,000 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be looking at every single bug. It's a 1017 00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:39,960 Speaker 2: little TV for me. 1018 00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,319 Speaker 4: But anyway, I'm not I'm not a bug expert. I 1019 00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,640 Speaker 4: don't know the difference between a hornet and a wasp. 1020 00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:46,399 Speaker 2: On alase, have you done any research here? 1021 00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:49,120 Speaker 5: Yes? So it says that hornets are larger, while wasps 1022 00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:53,280 Speaker 5: are brighter. Wasps have black and yellow rings while hornets 1023 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:54,640 Speaker 5: have black and white rings. 1024 00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:58,479 Speaker 2: Okay, so I'm I'm more of a wasp person. There's 1025 00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:00,360 Speaker 2: more color there, They're smaller. 1026 00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:00,960 Speaker 3: They're smaller. 1027 00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:04,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I have to be anti wasp because of the 1028 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:06,080 Speaker 4: personal tragedy. 1029 00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:07,560 Speaker 2: That I've seen. 1030 00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:11,840 Speaker 4: I've seen they've comes for my loved ones. 1031 00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,760 Speaker 2: What an evil creature there is evil in the world. 1032 00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,840 Speaker 4: And I do feel like at the time that that 1033 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,960 Speaker 4: was happening, someone reached out to be like, but it's 1034 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,600 Speaker 4: a good thing to have, wasps because and then they 1035 00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:28,080 Speaker 4: said a reason, and I've forgotten it. 1036 00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:29,200 Speaker 2: I don't want to hear that. 1037 00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,240 Speaker 4: I mean, clearly is not important and important enough reason 1038 00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:34,280 Speaker 4: for me to remember. 1039 00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:37,759 Speaker 2: Wow, Well, I'm so thrilled. I'm going to become this 1040 00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,040 Speaker 2: is really a Bridger's bug day. 1041 00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:44,799 Speaker 3: I really hope that. 1042 00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:47,719 Speaker 4: The one thing about the milkweed that I'll say that 1043 00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:49,880 Speaker 4: might freak you out is I do think that it 1044 00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,520 Speaker 4: dies back a bit in winter, and you're going to 1045 00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:53,399 Speaker 4: be like, it's dead. 1046 00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:54,600 Speaker 3: It's not dead. 1047 00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:56,480 Speaker 4: You just need to cut some of the dead leaves 1048 00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,279 Speaker 4: off and then it'll come back. But that's why it's 1049 00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,839 Speaker 4: the correct milkweed for us to have, because it doesn't 1050 00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:06,160 Speaker 4: confuse the butter Right, you need milkweed that dies back 1051 00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,400 Speaker 4: in winter if you're in this part of Calvin. 1052 00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:09,719 Speaker 2: Otherwise you're troublemaker. 1053 00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,080 Speaker 3: Otherwise you are luring them to their death. 1054 00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:13,440 Speaker 2: You're contributing to the problem. 1055 00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,840 Speaker 4: Yes, it's very hard for me to because people know 1056 00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,080 Speaker 4: that I like monarch butterflies now and they'll be like 1057 00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,920 Speaker 4: check it out, and I'll be like, that's the. 1058 00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,400 Speaker 3: Wrong kind of milkweed, and I just rain on their parade. 1059 00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,440 Speaker 4: I've become the sort of like crazy lady in the 1060 00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,000 Speaker 4: neighborhood too, where I like, one time I saw a 1061 00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:33,960 Speaker 4: bunch of caterpillars on this tropical milkweed in my neighbor's 1062 00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:35,680 Speaker 4: yard when I was walking my dog and she came 1063 00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,640 Speaker 4: out of her house and I just started lecturing her 1064 00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:40,920 Speaker 4: about She's. 1065 00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,080 Speaker 3: Like, I'm a renter, I don't care what. 1066 00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:45,800 Speaker 2: Just let me go about my day. 1067 00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,719 Speaker 4: Yes, but it's one of those things where once you 1068 00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:53,160 Speaker 4: know about the difference, you're gonna start seeing tropical milkweed everywhere. 1069 00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:57,080 Speaker 2: Youre like expertise in gardening? How long has like when 1070 00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,360 Speaker 2: did you get into all of them? So I'm an amateur, 1071 00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,960 Speaker 2: I mean by any stretch, but compared to a normal person. 1072 00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:09,520 Speaker 4: Yes, I started gardening, like I think probably a little 1073 00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,920 Speaker 4: bit before the pandemic because we bought this house in 1074 00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,840 Speaker 4: like twenty eighteen, and then we got a dog right away, 1075 00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,000 Speaker 4: and I was like, oh great, this house has a yard. 1076 00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:18,400 Speaker 3: My dog's gonna love it. 1077 00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:20,480 Speaker 4: And we got a couch potato dog and he'd just 1078 00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,319 Speaker 4: we would take him outside and he'd be like, what 1079 00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:26,280 Speaker 4: are we doing out here? The couches inside. He doesn't 1080 00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,560 Speaker 4: play fetch, he doesn't care. He would just roll over 1081 00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:31,000 Speaker 4: for a belly rap and then go back inside. And 1082 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:32,399 Speaker 4: I was like, Okay, well, now I have this land, 1083 00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,359 Speaker 4: what do I do with it? Grass seems stupid. My 1084 00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,719 Speaker 4: brother's a really good gardener, and so he got me 1085 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:39,360 Speaker 4: started with some. 1086 00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:41,560 Speaker 2: And you had someone in your life that is a 1087 00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:42,520 Speaker 2: support system. 1088 00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,719 Speaker 3: He is an excellent gardener. He could answer a lot 1089 00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:46,280 Speaker 3: of my questions. 1090 00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,719 Speaker 4: But also I just went on YouTube a lot, Like 1091 00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:51,880 Speaker 4: a lot of gardening is just like killing plants and 1092 00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:53,160 Speaker 4: then looking up why they died. 1093 00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:54,919 Speaker 3: That's a big part of it. 1094 00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:58,279 Speaker 4: And I've killed like aside from the ants that I've killed, 1095 00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:01,400 Speaker 4: I killed like a hundred seedlings and like plants I 1096 00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,600 Speaker 4: had started from seed I killed them all in one 1097 00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:08,279 Speaker 4: day and it was devastating. But every time I like 1098 00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:12,080 Speaker 4: look something up, like I've looked up questions online and 1099 00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:14,880 Speaker 4: one time I found on Reddit, on like some gardening reddit, 1100 00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,640 Speaker 4: someone was like asking the same question. They were like, 1101 00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:19,759 Speaker 4: I'm a very new gardener. I've only been doing it 1102 00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,839 Speaker 4: for about five years. And I was like, oh, this 1103 00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,319 Speaker 4: is going to take forever to be good at this, 1104 00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,120 Speaker 4: but especially during the pandemic, I was like, Oh, our 1105 00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:29,280 Speaker 4: food system is collapsing. 1106 00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:30,880 Speaker 3: I need to know how to grow stuff. 1107 00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:32,920 Speaker 2: Right, you be the one person that you're going to 1108 00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,560 Speaker 2: be the queen of La where everything falls apart. 1109 00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, everyone is gonna need I mean. And it's like 1110 00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,400 Speaker 4: I grow such a small amount of I always think 1111 00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,040 Speaker 4: about it. I'm like, I could not live on the 1112 00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,480 Speaker 4: food I grow, and that bothers like. 1113 00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:45,200 Speaker 3: It's not enough. 1114 00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:46,200 Speaker 2: But it's like a novel. 1115 00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,960 Speaker 4: One thing that is really cool about it that I've 1116 00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:53,479 Speaker 4: started to lean into more is that, like I think 1117 00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,839 Speaker 4: the real draw of being able to garden is that 1118 00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:01,640 Speaker 4: there are so many varieties of like fruits and vegetables 1119 00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,960 Speaker 4: that they do not sell in the grocery store because 1120 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:06,919 Speaker 4: no one knows what they are and no one wants them. 1121 00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,480 Speaker 4: And not just like oh from other countries. It's just 1122 00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,640 Speaker 4: like varieties of peppers, because the way the genetics work 1123 00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,560 Speaker 4: for peppers and tomatoes and stuff is like it's very 1124 00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:17,840 Speaker 4: easy to cross breed them and to make a new one, 1125 00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,880 Speaker 4: Like you can make a new generation of like a 1126 00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,440 Speaker 4: new kind of pepper, like every day or something and 1127 00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,880 Speaker 4: so there's just all these really weird peppers and tomatoes. 1128 00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,759 Speaker 4: You can grow yourself if you know how to, but 1129 00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,080 Speaker 4: you cannot get in stores, right, And that's what I 1130 00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,120 Speaker 4: think is like you can just like grow a bunch 1131 00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,520 Speaker 4: of stuff that you wouldn't be able to ever eat otherwise. 1132 00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, my brother sent me two packets of seeds that 1133 00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:43,680 Speaker 2: are like crazy hybrids. Like one is like purple snow 1134 00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:46,960 Speaker 2: peas or something. The other is a like a Hoberniro 1135 00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:48,759 Speaker 2: pepper that's not spicy. 1136 00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:50,640 Speaker 3: Well, what's the point of that? 1137 00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:54,680 Speaker 2: I don't know. I've had to grow them. I haven't 1138 00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:56,799 Speaker 2: grown the peppers yet, but I'm very curious what is 1139 00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:58,600 Speaker 2: the point. Maybe it's got a good flavor. 1140 00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:02,120 Speaker 4: I mean, I grew some Peruvian hobbin arrows, that's what 1141 00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:05,840 Speaker 4: they were called on the pack, and they're very spicy. 1142 00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,560 Speaker 4: But they're small and they're white, and they're like kind 1143 00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:11,680 Speaker 4: of smoky and they're flavor. The flavor of them was 1144 00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:15,360 Speaker 4: so good. It's like my favorite pepper I've ever grown. 1145 00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:18,560 Speaker 4: And but then also like my next door neighbors, the 1146 00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:22,879 Speaker 4: ones who I have been texting in Spanish, they are 1147 00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,200 Speaker 4: from Peru, and so like I was like, do you 1148 00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:28,120 Speaker 4: know these and they didn't. 1149 00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:31,319 Speaker 3: But these people do not like but they did know. 1150 00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:33,400 Speaker 4: Well, they asked for a garden to her, and I 1151 00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:35,759 Speaker 4: like showed them around and I all, but I was 1152 00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,000 Speaker 4: also growing these things called ground cherries. 1153 00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:38,680 Speaker 2: Do you know what those are? 1154 00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:38,799 Speaker 4: All? 1155 00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:40,000 Speaker 3: They're like kind of. 1156 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:43,400 Speaker 4: Related to to matillos. They grow in like a husk, okay. 1157 00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:46,920 Speaker 4: And when she saw the and they're like kind of 1158 00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:50,520 Speaker 4: like a little sweet and a little sour. And when 1159 00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:53,640 Speaker 4: she saw those, she was like, oh, these used to 1160 00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:57,080 Speaker 4: grow wild in Peru and whenever we were like walking 1161 00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,719 Speaker 4: through the hills, we used to pick them and eat them. 1162 00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:03,520 Speaker 3: And so that was a really cool thing, Like, oh 1163 00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:04,080 Speaker 3: my god. 1164 00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was like that made me so And those 1165 00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:07,720 Speaker 4: things are really fun to eat. 1166 00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,120 Speaker 2: I don't know ground cherries is that technic? Is it 1167 00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,919 Speaker 2: a fruit? Yes? That sounds like something I would love 1168 00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:13,279 Speaker 2: to eat. 1169 00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:14,319 Speaker 3: I think you would. 1170 00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:15,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's wonderful. 1171 00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:20,600 Speaker 4: They grow in these sort of like low branching plants 1172 00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:22,480 Speaker 4: and then they grow in these little like sort of 1173 00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:25,960 Speaker 4: lantern like husks, and then when the husks are brown, 1174 00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,880 Speaker 4: the fruit inside is like a little orange ball and 1175 00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:32,960 Speaker 4: it's just it's a very interesting flavor. It's like halfway 1176 00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:34,360 Speaker 4: between fruit and vegetable. 1177 00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:36,160 Speaker 2: Oh this sounds like a great snack. 1178 00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:37,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're really fun. 1179 00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,439 Speaker 4: And there's just like so many I mean yeah, Oh god, 1180 00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:41,640 Speaker 4: I'm miss gardening so much. 1181 00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:43,040 Speaker 3: I haven't done it in so long. 1182 00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:46,239 Speaker 2: What a shame. Yeah, and you'll get back to it. 1183 00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,960 Speaker 2: I will. Well, I think we should play a game. Yes, 1184 00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,800 Speaker 2: let's do it. Let's play a game called Gift or 1185 00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:55,400 Speaker 2: a Curse. I need a number between Why am I 1186 00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:59,960 Speaker 2: struggling to remember number? I want to say a numberw 1187 00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:06,400 Speaker 2: F no between one and ten. Five. Okay, I'm going 1188 00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:08,920 Speaker 2: to do some like calculating. Okay, in the meantime, you 1189 00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,200 Speaker 2: can promote, recommend, do whatever you want. 1190 00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:14,080 Speaker 4: I'm going to explain the reasoning for me picking the 1191 00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:16,880 Speaker 4: number five so quickly and without thinking, which is that 1192 00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:18,760 Speaker 4: my name is Emily. 1193 00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,200 Speaker 3: There's five letters in the name Emily. 1194 00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,200 Speaker 4: It starts with the letter E, which is the fifth 1195 00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:25,720 Speaker 4: letter of the alphabet. 1196 00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,560 Speaker 3: And I was born on the fifth. 1197 00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:34,040 Speaker 4: In a year ending in five, and so I've always 1198 00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:38,600 Speaker 4: felt like that was my lucky number, despite the fact 1199 00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:43,200 Speaker 4: that there is currently a firetruck declaring that nothing happening 1200 00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:46,360 Speaker 4: right now is lucky and everything is bad. I just 1201 00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:48,280 Speaker 4: want to promote the number five. I also have a 1202 00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:50,320 Speaker 4: podcast called Baby Genius is if you want to listen 1203 00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:51,040 Speaker 4: to it. 1204 00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:54,480 Speaker 2: It's such a good podcast. Oh, thank you. I mean, 1205 00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:59,480 Speaker 2: what's going on right now in your neighborhood. In the neighborhood, 1206 00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:01,240 Speaker 2: I don't know every type of siren. 1207 00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:05,400 Speaker 4: We it does sound like a fire truck. And there 1208 00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:08,280 Speaker 4: was an arson in my front yard recently. In your 1209 00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:11,840 Speaker 4: front yard, Yes, you have a storage cube right now 1210 00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,800 Speaker 4: because we like, like I said, we're doing construction and 1211 00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,440 Speaker 4: we got rid of our garage and we put everything 1212 00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:18,760 Speaker 4: that was in the garage in one of those like 1213 00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:21,320 Speaker 4: it's a storage cube, you know, like in our front yard. 1214 00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:23,360 Speaker 4: It's just like a wooden box with a cover on it. 1215 00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:25,320 Speaker 4: And someone said it on fire the other night. 1216 00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:27,680 Speaker 2: Did all this stuff get burned? No? 1217 00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,680 Speaker 4: Well, luckily my next door neighbor, who I have a 1218 00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:34,280 Speaker 4: very good relationship, Okay, coming home from a night out 1219 00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,080 Speaker 4: the daughter and she knocked on the door at three am, 1220 00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:38,880 Speaker 4: and it woke our dog up, and our dog woke 1221 00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,080 Speaker 4: up us up, and we came out and I put 1222 00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:42,560 Speaker 4: the fire out with a fire extinguisher. 1223 00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:45,360 Speaker 3: Oh and it was the coolest I've ever felt, of course. 1224 00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:50,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so funn to use a fire extinguisher to 1225 00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:53,200 Speaker 4: put a fire out. I can't say I recommend it 1226 00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:54,840 Speaker 4: because I don't want you to be in that situation. 1227 00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:58,520 Speaker 4: But like, if you're ever if like the fire extinguisher factories, 1228 00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:01,360 Speaker 4: like we need someone to test out on real fires, 1229 00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:02,600 Speaker 4: you should do it. 1230 00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:05,360 Speaker 2: That's so cool. Yeah, it was really fun. The fire 1231 00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:06,800 Speaker 2: didn't there did not. 1232 00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:10,760 Speaker 4: It just burned the out, like the plastic tarp outside 1233 00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:13,120 Speaker 4: of the outside of the cube, and then the out 1234 00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:15,840 Speaker 4: the cube itself got a little bit charred, but everything 1235 00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:16,720 Speaker 4: inside was fine. 1236 00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,200 Speaker 2: Somebody just passed by the hated storage. 1237 00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:20,080 Speaker 3: I get well. 1238 00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:23,000 Speaker 4: Our our other neighbor had her trash can burned down 1239 00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:25,080 Speaker 4: to the ground at the exact same time. Whoa, it 1240 00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:26,760 Speaker 4: was like three am on a Saturday night. So it 1241 00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:30,480 Speaker 4: was definitely arson. Oh but it's like, what do I 1242 00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:32,320 Speaker 4: do about that? I mean, it's like it's not like 1243 00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:34,000 Speaker 4: they were trying to steal anything. It was just like 1244 00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:35,400 Speaker 4: a totally senseless crime. 1245 00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:39,880 Speaker 2: If we're just trying to destroy everything, Arson is a 1246 00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:42,240 Speaker 2: I feel like arson is one thing that a lot 1247 00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:44,320 Speaker 2: of people get away with. I feel like I've read 1248 00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:45,080 Speaker 2: that somewhere. 1249 00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:46,120 Speaker 3: Really, let's just. 1250 00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:51,400 Speaker 2: What we're trying to talk about. Listen, go ahead and 1251 00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:54,840 Speaker 2: burn something down. You won't get caught. Is the neighbor 1252 00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:57,960 Speaker 2: bothering you burn their house down? Okay? This is how 1253 00:59:58,000 --> 00:59:59,680 Speaker 2: we play gift for a curse. I'm going to name 1254 01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,000 Speaker 2: three things. You're gonna tell me if they're a gift 1255 01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:04,560 Speaker 2: or a curse and why. I'll tell if you're right 1256 01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:08,360 Speaker 2: or wrong, because there are correct answers. Okay. Number one uh, 1257 01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:11,440 Speaker 2: This is from a listener named Lydia. Lydia wrote in 1258 01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:15,160 Speaker 2: and suggested gift to a curse. Phone numbers with words, 1259 01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:18,840 Speaker 2: for example, one eight hundred USA Rail. I don't know 1260 01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:20,120 Speaker 2: if that's a real phone number. 1261 01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:22,040 Speaker 3: I have to imagine that's Amtrak. 1262 01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:24,720 Speaker 2: Oh. Probably I was on amtrack recently. 1263 01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:27,240 Speaker 3: Did you notice any stickers with their phone number? 1264 01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:31,640 Speaker 2: No, they weren't begging me to call that aspect of 1265 01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:33,040 Speaker 2: it like, got complaints? 1266 01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:35,560 Speaker 3: Too bad? This ain't Europe. We're your only choice. 1267 01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:38,200 Speaker 2: This is basically a bus. 1268 01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:44,840 Speaker 4: I am going to say, gift why, because no one 1269 01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:48,320 Speaker 4: remembers anyone's phone numbers. If you're ever in a situation 1270 01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:50,760 Speaker 4: where you need to give someone your phone number, like 1271 01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:52,880 Speaker 4: I think, as long as it's not something that people 1272 01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:56,360 Speaker 4: will sort of like want to type in anyway if 1273 01:00:56,360 --> 01:01:00,640 Speaker 4: it's just like I was just gonna say dog fart, 1274 01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:02,920 Speaker 4: and I'm like someone would type that in. But if 1275 01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:05,120 Speaker 4: your number is dog fart, then you can just say, like, 1276 01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:08,000 Speaker 4: just call me. I'm like, you know, three two three 1277 01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:09,440 Speaker 4: dogs three two three, dog fart. 1278 01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:11,160 Speaker 3: That's great. 1279 01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:17,919 Speaker 4: And I think it's like it's only I don't can't 1280 01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:19,760 Speaker 4: see how it's occurs unless you're getting a lot of 1281 01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:21,919 Speaker 4: calls that you don't want. But we're all getting those 1282 01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:25,840 Speaker 4: calls anyway. You're one hundred, right, of course, How could 1283 01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:28,520 Speaker 4: that be anything but a gift. It's a fun little novelty. 1284 01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:31,080 Speaker 3: Have you ever had your numbers spell out anything? 1285 01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:35,040 Speaker 2: I've never had mine. My childhood friend James, his phone 1286 01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:38,400 Speaker 2: number ended with mint, which I always loved. That's a 1287 01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:39,360 Speaker 2: nice one to have. 1288 01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:43,680 Speaker 3: I had when I got my own phone number, it was. 1289 01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:47,800 Speaker 4: It ended in the letters DHC because I was really 1290 01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:49,840 Speaker 4: into the dance hall crashers. 1291 01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,080 Speaker 3: And you got to pick that. I got to pick that. 1292 01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:55,440 Speaker 4: But then I also realized that the first four numbers 1293 01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:59,080 Speaker 4: also spelled out Jack and d HC is also the 1294 01:01:59,120 --> 01:01:59,920 Speaker 4: same letters as D. 1295 01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:02,320 Speaker 3: I see, So my phone number was Jack Dick. 1296 01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:07,360 Speaker 2: Poor choice. Poor choice on your part. 1297 01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:10,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I actually haven't looked to see if my current 1298 01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:12,480 Speaker 4: phone number spells anything. I know I'm going through my 1299 01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:15,480 Speaker 4: number of my zero in it and so or it 1300 01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:16,760 Speaker 4: has a one in it, So it doesn't. 1301 01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:18,600 Speaker 2: It can't. Yeah, and I feel like mine doesn't have 1302 01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:23,360 Speaker 2: any vowels, right, But I could be wrong. I hope 1303 01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:25,280 Speaker 2: I probably just gave away my phone number to some 1304 01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:31,400 Speaker 2: phone number genius. Another thing with phone numbers I've noticed 1305 01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:34,840 Speaker 2: recently is my last two optometrists end with twenty twenty, 1306 01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:36,920 Speaker 2: which is like, very cute. 1307 01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:39,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, but they all have it. 1308 01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:42,720 Speaker 4: And the whole point is I don't have twenty twenty visions, right, 1309 01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:45,200 Speaker 4: I certainly don't advertisement anything. 1310 01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:48,200 Speaker 2: Ten Well, I don't even know what my vision is. Horrible, 1311 01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:52,360 Speaker 2: But I love a novelty with a phone number. We 1312 01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:55,600 Speaker 2: can all take a little. That's a gift. Yeah. Next up, 1313 01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:58,760 Speaker 2: a listener named Jordan has written in Gift or a 1314 01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:03,120 Speaker 2: Curse fast food drive throughs where the employees come outside 1315 01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:05,760 Speaker 2: to deliver the food to your car instead of passing 1316 01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:08,400 Speaker 2: it through a window, Gift or a curse. 1317 01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:13,400 Speaker 4: That to me seems like a gift because the number 1318 01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:15,480 Speaker 4: of times that I've pulled up to a drive through 1319 01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:18,000 Speaker 4: window and then had to back up and pull up 1320 01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:22,080 Speaker 4: again because I wasn't close enough for weeks because I'm 1321 01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:24,840 Speaker 4: just not good at eyeballing where my car is supposed 1322 01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:25,160 Speaker 4: to be. 1323 01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:35,040 Speaker 2: It's humiliating, emily wrong, curse this, and this is why 1324 01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:37,840 Speaker 2: I get what you're saying there. But if they're on 1325 01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:41,000 Speaker 2: roller skates, one hundred percent, I love it. I'm thrilled, 1326 01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:42,800 Speaker 2: but that I think that's happened to me one time. 1327 01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:45,160 Speaker 2: The rest of the time, it just it makes me 1328 01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:48,760 Speaker 2: so nervous people walking up to my kids. You're sitting there, 1329 01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:53,760 Speaker 2: sitting very ready. Yes, and sure, if they skate up 1330 01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:56,280 Speaker 2: on a pair of roller blades, I'm all for a thrill. 1331 01:03:56,440 --> 01:04:00,200 Speaker 2: I'm all for that novelty. But to have somebody it 1332 01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:01,720 Speaker 2: makes me feel bad that they had to come from 1333 01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:05,480 Speaker 2: the store. It's also like, usually it's dark when I'm 1334 01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:08,880 Speaker 2: at a drive through, it's like I'm I'm putting, I'm 1335 01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:12,080 Speaker 2: a sitting duck, I'm a target, and I don't like 1336 01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:14,280 Speaker 2: the nervous feeling it gives me. It's a. 1337 01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:16,720 Speaker 3: I think that's fair. 1338 01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:19,720 Speaker 2: Just pass it through the window. Let's make this. 1339 01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:23,919 Speaker 4: Yes, I mean, look if if I could just change 1340 01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:25,920 Speaker 4: it so that the windows were easier to reach. 1341 01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:26,480 Speaker 3: That's what I would do. 1342 01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:30,440 Speaker 2: The problem is with uh, when you need more options 1343 01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:31,560 Speaker 2: with windows on your car. 1344 01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:32,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's there. 1345 01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:34,920 Speaker 2: Your car just needs a ton more windows that you 1346 01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:36,000 Speaker 2: can Or it's just. 1347 01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:39,080 Speaker 4: Like the windows there need to be closer to where 1348 01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:42,080 Speaker 4: my car window is, like on the level, because then 1349 01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:44,480 Speaker 4: I don't have to be as close in order for 1350 01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:46,680 Speaker 4: them to reach, because the problem is we're going diagonal. 1351 01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:50,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, those windows, the restaurants need to lower them a 1352 01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:50,880 Speaker 2: little bit. 1353 01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:53,520 Speaker 3: They need to lower them. Get I want them to 1354 01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:54,720 Speaker 3: be down on my level. 1355 01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:56,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're all at a bad place right now. 1356 01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:59,160 Speaker 4: To be a little bit, those restaurants need to be 1357 01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:01,280 Speaker 4: sunk into the around slightly. 1358 01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:04,160 Speaker 2: Or the employee should be on their knees, kind of 1359 01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:08,320 Speaker 2: shuffling around on their knees. Is that too much to ask? 1360 01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:09,320 Speaker 2: I don't think so. 1361 01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:12,680 Speaker 4: Or the food should be on like a little shoot, 1362 01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:17,080 Speaker 4: like a little slide, like a trash shoot in New York. 1363 01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:19,480 Speaker 2: To just have drinks and food sliding in your car, 1364 01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:24,160 Speaker 2: food every milkshake. Just I don't see any problem with 1365 01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:27,200 Speaker 2: any of our ideas. Okay, so you've gotten one out 1366 01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:29,760 Speaker 2: of two so far. I don't know what to say 1367 01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:30,240 Speaker 2: about that. 1368 01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:31,360 Speaker 3: But it's an f f. 1369 01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:38,000 Speaker 2: Uh. This final one is from somebody, Uh, Carla give 1370 01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:41,440 Speaker 2: her a curse. The introduction chapter in a book. 1371 01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:45,040 Speaker 4: Oh, I think it depends on if it's written by 1372 01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:49,640 Speaker 4: the author or written by a different person, because and 1373 01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:51,880 Speaker 4: even then, I don't know if that changes the answer 1374 01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:57,160 Speaker 4: in the affirmative of the name, I'm going to say, curse. 1375 01:05:57,320 --> 01:05:59,920 Speaker 4: Just get into it. If it's interesting, I'll like it. 1376 01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:04,760 Speaker 2: You're absolutely speaking my language. Get out of the way. 1377 01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:08,640 Speaker 2: I don't need anything put at the back of the book. 1378 01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:11,000 Speaker 2: I don't need you coloring what my thoughts on what 1379 01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:14,280 Speaker 2: the book is going to be. Also, I've already committed 1380 01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:16,480 Speaker 2: to reading. I don't need more reading than has to 1381 01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:17,840 Speaker 2: do with the thing I wanted to read. 1382 01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:21,439 Speaker 4: I'm perfectly capable of reading it, deciding I'm lost without 1383 01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:22,920 Speaker 4: an introduction, and then just stopping. 1384 01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:24,720 Speaker 2: I don't need your health. 1385 01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:26,040 Speaker 3: Production really going to help that much. 1386 01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:28,680 Speaker 4: Like, I think it only really makes sense if, like 1387 01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:32,120 Speaker 4: the author died while writing the book, and they're like, look, 1388 01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:34,840 Speaker 4: i'll tell you when in the book he died, and 1389 01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:39,320 Speaker 4: like that's why certain things are messed up in this book. 1390 01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:41,240 Speaker 2: That's why this shouldn't have been published. 1391 01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:43,480 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean that's the thing. Don't publish books 1392 01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:45,200 Speaker 3: that are half written. That's messed up. 1393 01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:48,520 Speaker 2: No, no, no, those are should be free online. 1394 01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:51,400 Speaker 4: Or they should be finished by another person, like another 1395 01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:53,680 Speaker 4: like a trusted person. 1396 01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:54,720 Speaker 3: Should come in and finish them. 1397 01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:58,160 Speaker 2: Absolutely not, there's no way that could work. 1398 01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:01,680 Speaker 4: I mean it works, and all your favorite TV shows 1399 01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:05,840 Speaker 4: we have when they get a new showrunner that never 1400 01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:08,240 Speaker 4: led to any terrible seasons of television. 1401 01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:11,600 Speaker 2: But it is odd with like TV or movies. If 1402 01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:13,360 Speaker 2: I see that two people wrote it or whatever, I'm 1403 01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:14,880 Speaker 2: like fine. But if I see a book was written 1404 01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:17,080 Speaker 2: by two people, I'm like, that's garbage. There's no way 1405 01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:17,880 Speaker 2: that's good. 1406 01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:20,360 Speaker 4: Even though writing a book is so much harder than 1407 01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:22,440 Speaker 4: writing TV, writing TV is so easy. 1408 01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:25,520 Speaker 2: Books should be written by armies of people. Yeah, there's 1409 01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:27,360 Speaker 2: so long. It's very backwards. 1410 01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:29,080 Speaker 4: But they do have like a little bit of a 1411 01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:31,200 Speaker 4: cheat where it's like they can just say what. 1412 01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:32,200 Speaker 3: The characters are thinking. 1413 01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:36,120 Speaker 4: Have to like, you don't have to show anything, you 1414 01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:38,280 Speaker 4: don't have to be artful about that. It's just like, oh, 1415 01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:41,480 Speaker 4: you're just telling me, fine, very fancy of you. 1416 01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:43,440 Speaker 2: Authors are frauds. 1417 01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:46,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, they should die and have other people take over 1418 01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:47,280 Speaker 4: their books. 1419 01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:50,760 Speaker 2: Every authors should be dead and their new authors should 1420 01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:53,360 Speaker 2: spring up to finish their work. Well, you got two 1421 01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:54,000 Speaker 2: out of three. 1422 01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:58,040 Speaker 4: That's pretty good. That's about a D. That's a solid D. Yeah, 1423 01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:01,280 Speaker 4: deplug plus. I don't know, I should know at this point. 1424 01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:05,440 Speaker 2: I've given a lot of ds on this podcast, but 1425 01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:09,120 Speaker 2: it's not a failing grade, which we love. Excellent job 1426 01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:13,840 Speaker 2: and you've finished so strong. This is the final segment 1427 01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:16,639 Speaker 2: of the podcast. It's called I said no emails. People 1428 01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:19,599 Speaker 2: write into I said no gifts at gmail dot com 1429 01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:24,360 Speaker 2: and they have problems. We all have problems. My listeners 1430 01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:27,680 Speaker 2: have the worst problems, and it's frankly very annoying that 1431 01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:29,720 Speaker 2: they ask for my help. But we're going to do it. 1432 01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:32,040 Speaker 2: And I'm not even gonna ask if you're gonna help me. 1433 01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:35,280 Speaker 2: I've just assumed you're on board. I'm really on board, Okay. 1434 01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:38,800 Speaker 4: I love telling people what to do, especially when they 1435 01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:41,000 Speaker 4: can't tell me that they're not going to do it 1436 01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:45,160 Speaker 4: right away. I'm assuming that they will follow my word 1437 01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:45,760 Speaker 4: to the letter. 1438 01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:48,040 Speaker 2: You've improved their life and you don't have to think 1439 01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:51,160 Speaker 2: about it again. Yeah, this is hello. Bridger and likely 1440 01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:54,120 Speaker 2: esteemed guests. So a great guest on this person's part. 1441 01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:56,519 Speaker 2: If this makes it to you, well it's not a 1442 01:08:56,640 --> 01:09:00,240 Speaker 2: letter in a bottle, sweetie. If this makes it to you, 1443 01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:02,639 Speaker 2: I hope you are both enjoying yourself on some level. 1444 01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:05,000 Speaker 2: Oh that's very nice. Okay. At work, I have just 1445 01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:09,240 Speaker 2: finished project managing the publication of my boss's first book. 1446 01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:13,880 Speaker 3: Oh, oh, my gosh. 1447 01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:19,599 Speaker 2: The book's proceeds benefit the nonprofit we work for. Nammy, Nami, 1448 01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:21,880 Speaker 2: nam I. Oh what is that? 1449 01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:22,639 Speaker 3: I know what that is? 1450 01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:26,559 Speaker 2: National can't think of it now. Associations on a leash 1451 01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:30,320 Speaker 2: get into it. We'll keep reading here. But he wants 1452 01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:33,520 Speaker 2: to get both me and our research assistant a project 1453 01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:37,120 Speaker 2: and gift. My colleague has asked that he pay for 1454 01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:39,559 Speaker 2: her next tattoo as her gift. That's a big ask. 1455 01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:42,080 Speaker 2: So the world seems to be my oyster as far 1456 01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:45,439 Speaker 2: as asks go. However, I have no clue what I 1457 01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:48,640 Speaker 2: want or what's appropriate for this sort of gift. I 1458 01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:52,040 Speaker 2: am twenty six and love traveling, the outdoors, pop culture, 1459 01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:56,479 Speaker 2: and my job, and currently live in DC. Any insights 1460 01:09:56,479 --> 01:09:59,160 Speaker 2: are welcome, as I have never had an open gift 1461 01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:03,240 Speaker 2: offer like this before with gratitude Jordan, and this is 1462 01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:06,240 Speaker 2: a different Jordan. There was a lot of things, uh wow, 1463 01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:07,280 Speaker 2: coming together, and. 1464 01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:11,160 Speaker 3: This question is what do I want? That's what they're asked. 1465 01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:13,960 Speaker 2: And it seems like the world is her, it is 1466 01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:15,720 Speaker 2: her oyster and Onnlyish's. 1467 01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:18,799 Speaker 5: The main nammy that I found was the National Alliance 1468 01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:19,639 Speaker 5: on Mental Illness. 1469 01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:23,400 Speaker 4: Oh pa, I'm glad that it wasn't like the National 1470 01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:26,400 Speaker 4: Alliance of Maga monster. 1471 01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:32,720 Speaker 3: I specs. I don't know. I would not be supportive. 1472 01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:34,280 Speaker 2: Of We would shut down Jordan's thing right now. But 1473 01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:37,840 Speaker 2: Jordan's doing great work and uh deserves a gift. 1474 01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:41,160 Speaker 4: So my first thought, and I think this is dependent 1475 01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:45,040 Speaker 4: on how Jordan feels about her coworker, which is like, 1476 01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:48,120 Speaker 4: get ask your boss for enough money to bribe the 1477 01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:50,599 Speaker 4: tattoo artist to do a different tattoo than what her 1478 01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:54,160 Speaker 4: co worker asked for and not tell the coworker about it. 1479 01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:56,479 Speaker 2: So the coworker ends up with something they did not ask. 1480 01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:59,720 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, and then it just cancels out. No one 1481 01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:05,679 Speaker 4: gets anything, the organization falls apart, right Yeah, morale hits 1482 01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:06,879 Speaker 4: an all time Wow. 1483 01:11:07,479 --> 01:11:12,760 Speaker 3: That's a perfect gift. That's not what your goal is. 1484 01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:15,719 Speaker 4: It sounds like your goal is to get something you want, 1485 01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:17,479 Speaker 4: which that doesn't really work. 1486 01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:21,559 Speaker 2: For But she does love traveling. Okay, the outdoors. Pop 1487 01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:25,479 Speaker 2: culture lives in DC. I was just in DC. Odd. 1488 01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:27,200 Speaker 2: It's always an odd city to be in. 1489 01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:30,320 Speaker 3: Why because you're just like Watergate happened here. 1490 01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:34,280 Speaker 2: I stayed it Watergate, Well, hey, that you brought on yourself. 1491 01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:37,320 Speaker 2: I will say about the Watergate, they've tried to like 1492 01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:41,520 Speaker 2: hip it up and every like all of their marketing 1493 01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:44,679 Speaker 2: and branding is like they clearly have one joke, which 1494 01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:46,720 Speaker 2: is like you'll have to break in, So it's like 1495 01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:48,680 Speaker 2: the key card is like you don't have to break in, 1496 01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:50,680 Speaker 2: and then like the mini bars, like you don't have 1497 01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:53,960 Speaker 2: to break into the snaps. If we only had one idea, 1498 01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:55,679 Speaker 2: maybe we shouldn't have done this. Yeah. 1499 01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:58,720 Speaker 4: I also just feel like it's there's more they did 1500 01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:01,679 Speaker 4: more than just break in. That wasn't the only thing 1501 01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:05,120 Speaker 4: that they did wrong. There was more to that whole incident. 1502 01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:07,240 Speaker 2: There are a lot of things you can pull from 1503 01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:09,880 Speaker 2: to make your hotel. Yeah, it's like talk. 1504 01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:12,200 Speaker 4: About the flashlights, talk about the committee to real life, 1505 01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:15,559 Speaker 4: the President, talk about like the files, talk about talk 1506 01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:18,879 Speaker 4: about anything other than just the break in stop calling 1507 01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:21,240 Speaker 4: attention to your security failures. 1508 01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:26,880 Speaker 2: Also, speaking of Watergate, I'm and Jordan, forgive me. I 1509 01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:28,160 Speaker 2: just want to go on a little thing here. I 1510 01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:31,200 Speaker 2: was at Goodwill recently and found a book by Richard Nixon, 1511 01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:33,120 Speaker 2: and it was funny to see the first page was 1512 01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:35,880 Speaker 2: like also by Richard Nixon, and just to see that 1513 01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:38,400 Speaker 2: our favorite author. 1514 01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:41,560 Speaker 4: Like, if you enjoy this, great news, this is not 1515 01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:42,799 Speaker 4: the only thing he's written. 1516 01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:49,040 Speaker 2: Maybe, Jordan, maybe you get the whole collection of Richard 1517 01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:51,440 Speaker 2: Nixon books. That's a gift. 1518 01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:53,840 Speaker 3: Test, Okay, I do have an idea for a good gift. 1519 01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:56,519 Speaker 4: Let's talk it for And this is something that I 1520 01:12:56,560 --> 01:13:00,200 Speaker 4: don't think Jordan would buy for herself, but that would 1521 01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:04,799 Speaker 4: benefit her life, which is to get a really nice, 1522 01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:06,320 Speaker 4: high quality suitcase. 1523 01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:07,360 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 1524 01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:09,719 Speaker 3: Yes, because you're twenty six years old. 1525 01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:13,840 Speaker 4: Guarantee the suitcase you're using has maybe two years left 1526 01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:14,839 Speaker 4: on it max. 1527 01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:16,599 Speaker 3: It will be trash. 1528 01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:19,599 Speaker 4: But if you get a nice one, then you'll use 1529 01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:21,439 Speaker 4: it for a long time. It was just a tattoo 1530 01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:24,639 Speaker 4: cost a lot of money, it's how dog it is. 1531 01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:27,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think probably at least. 1532 01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:29,680 Speaker 2: Three hundred, right, so you could get a decent at 1533 01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:33,839 Speaker 2: least carry on, yeah, or like a good backpack or something. 1534 01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:35,800 Speaker 4: You know what, get a carry on because then you 1535 01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:38,000 Speaker 4: can use it for either you know. 1536 01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:40,719 Speaker 2: I'm mostly a carry on person at this point anyway. 1537 01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:46,040 Speaker 3: You know what I love doing is carrying on. 1538 01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:50,160 Speaker 4: But then when they're like we've oversold, does anyone want 1539 01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:51,439 Speaker 4: to check their bag at the gate? 1540 01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:52,920 Speaker 2: You take care? 1541 01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:57,200 Speaker 3: I love that because you're nervous, you're not paying for it. 1542 01:13:57,200 --> 01:14:01,160 Speaker 4: It's definitely safer than anything else because the plane's already there. 1543 01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:05,080 Speaker 3: They're taking it onto the plane. It's like it's more. 1544 01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:07,479 Speaker 4: Guaranteed to get on the plane than when you check 1545 01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:10,479 Speaker 4: it of the best, right, and especially if you have 1546 01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:14,120 Speaker 4: a if you have a layover anywhere, it's like, oh, 1547 01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:17,479 Speaker 4: I hate, like take it all the way there for me, 1548 01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:19,400 Speaker 4: I don't want to. I don't want to lug this 1549 01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:21,439 Speaker 4: thing or like for a mile at O'Hare. 1550 01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:26,000 Speaker 2: But then you're at the carousel. So why the carousel the. 1551 01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:27,920 Speaker 3: Last one on the plane, so it's the first one off. 1552 01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:30,599 Speaker 2: Oh that's true, that's very true. 1553 01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:33,400 Speaker 3: Thought a carousel for or last? I don't quote me 1554 01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:33,680 Speaker 3: on that. 1555 01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:37,240 Speaker 2: Oh well, I mean what makes logical sense? I mean, yeah, 1556 01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:38,679 Speaker 2: if I were packing a plane. 1557 01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:39,920 Speaker 3: Depends on where you're going. 1558 01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:43,760 Speaker 4: But I personally think unless you're like going somewhere right 1559 01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:46,519 Speaker 4: after you get off a plane, that part of your 1560 01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:48,439 Speaker 4: your trip always takes longer than you think it's going 1561 01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:50,840 Speaker 4: to anyway, so it's like it's another twenty minutes. 1562 01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:54,559 Speaker 2: I don't like to hear this. That makes me. The 1563 01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:56,760 Speaker 2: last two flights on they were threatening, They're like, we 1564 01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:58,519 Speaker 2: have to do this and we only have I was like, 1565 01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:01,280 Speaker 2: please don't let this be me. I can't have one 1566 01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:02,799 Speaker 2: other thing I have to think about. 1567 01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:06,679 Speaker 3: But your I think it's worth it. 1568 01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:09,840 Speaker 4: It really depends on what's in your carry on, and 1569 01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:11,720 Speaker 4: it really like if you need any of it during 1570 01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:14,040 Speaker 4: the flight, obviously that's again in the ass, but like, 1571 01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:17,280 Speaker 4: just to not carry it is so great to not 1572 01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:19,280 Speaker 4: have to wheel it around and not have to deal 1573 01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:19,599 Speaker 4: with it. 1574 01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:21,960 Speaker 2: You make a decent argument, but you're not going to 1575 01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:24,479 Speaker 2: convince me. But I do think you have an excellent 1576 01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:26,800 Speaker 2: point for Jordan. Get a good piece of luggage that's 1577 01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:30,240 Speaker 2: not going to fall apart. Yeah, it'll last you a 1578 01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:32,880 Speaker 2: very long time. It will be such a big part 1579 01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:37,080 Speaker 2: of your life. Yes, that's a perfect truly a perfect idea, 1580 01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:40,519 Speaker 2: A rare thing in this segment of the podcast. Jordan, 1581 01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:46,200 Speaker 2: you have your answer. Don't come calling again. Enjoy your 1582 01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:51,519 Speaker 2: gift and thank you for your work. It's very sweet, Emily. 1583 01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:54,439 Speaker 2: You've brought me some beautiful. 1584 01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:55,839 Speaker 3: Gifts, beautiful bug gifts. 1585 01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:59,960 Speaker 2: I'm going to have butterflies probably in the spring. Yeah. 1586 01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:02,680 Speaker 2: I'm going to be the king of the monarchs. 1587 01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:05,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, the king of kings, the king. 1588 01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:10,920 Speaker 2: Of kind of what I'm known as already, I'm so excited, 1589 01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:12,439 Speaker 2: and I'm going to be able to capture all sorts 1590 01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:13,240 Speaker 2: of bugs and learn. 1591 01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:15,640 Speaker 3: I can't wait for you to get going with this. 1592 01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:21,000 Speaker 4: You are going to say out loud to yourself alone, 1593 01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:22,479 Speaker 4: how did I live without this? 1594 01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:27,400 Speaker 2: As I'm reheating soup and collecting bugs around. Yeah, my 1595 01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:30,240 Speaker 2: life has taken this kind of a turn that bums 1596 01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:37,040 Speaker 2: everyone out. Oh, thank you so much for being here, 1597 01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:39,160 Speaker 2: so much for having me. It's been a it's been 1598 01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:42,320 Speaker 2: a gift. And uh, listener, you know what I'm about 1599 01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:44,719 Speaker 2: to do. I'm going to have my soup. 1600 01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:50,679 Speaker 4: Every second of this has been torture for you elsewhere, 1601 01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:51,839 Speaker 4: soupless torture. 1602 01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:56,639 Speaker 2: I've had my eye on the soup this entire time. 1603 01:16:56,680 --> 01:17:01,280 Speaker 2: I've barely been able to hear Emily, listener, I hope 1604 01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:04,759 Speaker 2: you have a soup or a metaphorical soup you're looking 1605 01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:08,000 Speaker 2: forward to in your life, because the podcast is over 1606 01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:10,040 Speaker 2: and you've got to find another way to take care 1607 01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:19,040 Speaker 2: of yourself until next week. I love you, goodbye, I said, 1608 01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:22,320 Speaker 2: No Gifts is an exactly right production. It's produced by 1609 01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:25,720 Speaker 2: our dear friend Analise Nelson, and it's beautifully mixed by 1610 01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:29,000 Speaker 2: John Brantley, and we couldn't do it without our guest booker, 1611 01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:33,400 Speaker 2: Patrick Kottner. The theme song, of course, could only come 1612 01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:37,479 Speaker 2: from miracle worker Amy Mann. You must follow the show 1613 01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:40,120 Speaker 2: on Instagram. At I said no Gifts, I don't want 1614 01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:42,360 Speaker 2: to hear any excuses. That's where you get to see 1615 01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:44,840 Speaker 2: pictures of all these gorgeous gifts I'm getting. And don't 1616 01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:46,240 Speaker 2: you want to see pictures of the gifts? 1617 01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:49,639 Speaker 4: But invit? 1618 01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:50,920 Speaker 3: Did you hear. 1619 01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:53,920 Speaker 2: Fun a man. 1620 01:17:53,840 --> 01:18:00,920 Speaker 1: Myself perfectly clear? When you're I guess tom mhmm. 1621 01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:03,480 Speaker 2: You gotta come to me empty? 1622 01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:10,120 Speaker 1: And I said, no, guest, your own presence is presents enough. 1623 01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:15,840 Speaker 1: I already had too much stuff, So how do you 1624 01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:18,200 Speaker 1: dare to surbve me