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Speaker 2: Network The John Nick and Kenny Florian Podcast. John Annick

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Speaker 2: and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 3: I love him. I can't get enough of him.

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Speaker 7: Christopher mad Dog russo serious satellite radio always lets his

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Speaker 7: I'm not sure we've ever been this excited to do

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Speaker 7: an episode of the Anak and Florian Podcast. That's not

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Speaker 7: actually a little bit put off by the nature.

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Speaker 1: Of our romance, if you want to call it that.

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Speaker 7: But great to have you with us, truly, after what

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Speaker 7: was a very special weekend for the sport for the

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Speaker 1: For the show.

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Speaker 7: It's Monday, July tenth, twenty twenty three, Episode four to

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Speaker 7: twenty one of the Anak and Floriing Podcast presented by DraftKings.

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Speaker 1: But it's great to see a kid, you know. It's

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Speaker 1: great to see you.

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Speaker 7: It was great to do a live broadcast with you,

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Speaker 7: presented by UFC Fight Pass there at the UFC Fan Expo.

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Speaker 7: And I feel like we're chasing the clock already right,

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Speaker 7: like kind of want to skip the pleasantries today. But

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Speaker 7: it was nice to see you and have some sliders

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Speaker 7: and enjoy good mealoute.

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Speaker 5: I think my favorite part was you and your brother

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Speaker 5: just trading barbs back and forth. I think that was

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Speaker 5: my favorite, seeing who which Annik was gonna outwit the

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Speaker 5: other Annik. But yeah, dude, great to see you right now,

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Speaker 5: but not as good as seeing you at person. But

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Speaker 5: I'm glad you had a great show, dude. What a

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Speaker 5: weekend man, amazing amazing fights, what a card.

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Speaker 1: Twin Bro and I ready to kill each other as

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Speaker 7: Brett mosfied, I'll right across the aisle from me on

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Speaker 1: So that was fun as well.

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Speaker 7: But yes, there was so much to get into, and

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Speaker 7: I do believe we could spend forty five minutes on

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Speaker 7: all the Chandre Pantosia and Brandon Murreto, Cody just rot.

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Speaker 7: He just wrote Jason Anak and coach in the chat,

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Speaker 7: and it threw me off because you know, we do

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Speaker 7: try to upgrade him to first class whatever possible. But yes,

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Speaker 7: you did fly back. So I hope you're enjoying the

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Speaker 7: new studio today. I'm gonna have have a hard time

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Speaker 7: pulling it. I hope you're enjoying the new home studio.

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Speaker 7: As many of you know, we have upgraded the internet.

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Speaker 7: We're trying to do this for the sake of the show.

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Speaker 1: First time.

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Speaker 7: We're using sort of everything together, this sure microphone and

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Speaker 7: So what an international fight week it was. We can't

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Speaker 7: thank the fans enough for coming out watching the live broadcast,

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Speaker 7: taking pictures with Kenny Florian but let us get to

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Speaker 7: Alexander Volkanovsky and you heard us finally tease EA Sports

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Speaker 7: UFC five and I don't play the video game, but

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Speaker 7: I texted Alexander Volkanowski, how do they.

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Speaker 1: Not put you on the cover? Right?

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Speaker 7: I mean, is this not the easiest decision in the

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Speaker 7: With respect to John Jones, like, how do you not

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Speaker 7: neither here nor there. It's another title defense for the

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Speaker 7: featherweight champion ken Flow Tko comes at four nineteen of

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Speaker 7: rown three. Masterfully handled in all realms of mixed martial

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Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, man, Masterful is the operative word here. You know,

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Speaker 1: I think it's almost that simple.

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Speaker 5: Alex is just a pleasure to watch a rare athlete,

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Speaker 1: You really don't see that very often. And when I

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Speaker 5: Yaira, you know, I see this guy, he's just he's fire.

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Speaker 5: And if you let a fire get out of control,

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Speaker 5: you know, he never let Yayer get out of control.

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Speaker 5: He took away his rhythm, He took away a lot

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Speaker 1: Evolve this sport forward.

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Speaker 5: If you are a professional fighter and you're not watching

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Speaker 5: He is a sophisticated operator, and he just might be

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure you could just go on and we're

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Speaker 7: I don't want to talk too much because I think

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Speaker 7: By the way, your wall unit on this wide shot

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Speaker 7: looks great, looks very expensive. That wall unit behind you

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Speaker 7: But I was listening to Luke Thomas earlier today. He

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Speaker 7: But the grappling game for Alexander Volkanovsky is pretty darn

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Speaker 5: Yeah, his positioning was key heading into this fight, and

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Speaker 5: And you know, he's one of those guys that is

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Speaker 1: If you're able to new to your opponent.

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Speaker 5: And the other thing that we talked about last week

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Speaker 1: Doesn't make mistakes.

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Speaker 5: So what the hell are you supposed to do with

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Speaker 5: a guy that doesn't make mistakes, who's very positionally sound

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Speaker 5: Volkanovsky knows how to beat you, and he has the

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Speaker 5: Just amazing to see his evolution as a fighter and

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Speaker 5: all the different ways that he can get you to

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Speaker 7: So if you're Yaya Rodriguez and you would have this

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Speaker 1: I just don't think he is fruitful, right.

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Speaker 5: And but that's the thing though, I think here's where

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Speaker 5: Or what I thought Volkanovski was doing so intelligently was

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Speaker 1: And it never allowed Yayar to really be comfortable.

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Speaker 5: think we will see great improvements in yeah Yer's game.

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Speaker 5: But at this stage of the game, if they went

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Speaker 1: Maybe more knowing.

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Speaker 7: That was one of the names that volk uttered in

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Speaker 1: He's a star in my book, no question about it.

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Speaker 7: But it's just hard not to think about some of

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Speaker 5: And for Pantosia, he proved that he can go a

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Speaker 5: Brazilian Pantosia. Excellent stuff aside from a you know, losing

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00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,280
Speaker 5: position from top position a couple times. Yeah, it's pretty

435
00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,040
Speaker 5: much as Flawles says it gets and you've got to

436
00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:11,440
Speaker 5: credit Moreno, who bought his ass off and really did

437
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:15,200
Speaker 5: his homework, but still wasn't enough for Pantosia.

438
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Speaker 1: I don't know.

439
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,760
Speaker 5: Just amazing and really really cool to see that flyweight division,

440
00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:22,560
Speaker 5: you know, level up.

441
00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,520
Speaker 7: Some great scrambles from Brandon Moreno, and I do think

442
00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,880
Speaker 7: that he effectively grappled on this night, but I did

443
00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,280
Speaker 7: feel as though Moreno wasn't maybe urgent enough in some

444
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:37,080
Speaker 7: of these settings. And it's so interesting how Alesandre Pantosa

445
00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 7: will be criticized for like getting a rest right, yet

446
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,639
Speaker 7: he's the offensive grappler, and no one will suggest that

447
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,080
Speaker 7: Moreno's ever trying to get arrest when he's either on

448
00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,080
Speaker 7: his back or with his backup against the fence. You know,

449
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 7: they're always criticizing Pantosia and for me too in terms

450
00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,439
Speaker 7: of the effective grappling. And again, you know, people can

451
00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,320
Speaker 7: always throw the criteria in my face. And I think

452
00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,440
Speaker 7: for Ben Cartlidge, if we were to have a common conversation,

453
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,720
Speaker 7: you know, his argument would be deeply rooted in just

454
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 7: the specificity of the language. But Jason Herzog did not

455
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 7: so much as warn ala Chandre Pantosas. So what would

456
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,240
Speaker 7: you suggest to people, as the elite multi strike Brazilian

457
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,000
Speaker 7: jiu jitsu black belt that you are talk to me

458
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 7: about Aleschandre Pantoja's mma grappling here about his body control,

459
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 7: he did land a lot of ground strikes. Again, like,

460
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:26,960
Speaker 7: I just don't think he's getting nearly enough credit. And

461
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,480
Speaker 7: I will say in a long winded way, thankfully his

462
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 7: effective grappling was acknowledged enough by two judges, and effective

463
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,240
Speaker 7: grappling helped him win a world title here, because otherwise

464
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 7: we'd be having a different conversation.

465
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Speaker 1: Correct. I think what it comes down to is your ability.

466
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 5: When you're talking about effective grappling, you're talking about your

467
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 5: ability to control the other person and put them where

468
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 5: you want and not let them out of certain spots.

469
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:57,399
Speaker 5: And when you're talking about getting on top, controlling that position,

470
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:01,200
Speaker 5: getting around to the backside, getting a body trigle, these

471
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:06,360
Speaker 5: are very dominant positions that will definitely wear on your opponent.

472
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 5: They're also great positions for where you could strike from

473
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 5: and there are also great positions of course where you

474
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 5: can hit things like rear naked chokes and arm locks

475
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:19,160
Speaker 5: and you know, you know, backside trigles from from behind,

476
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,439
Speaker 5: so ushido s and gaku or whatever if you want

477
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 5: to get all technical with your judo terminology.

478
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 1: But yeah, so you know.

479
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 5: I think that Pantosha did a wonderful job of hitting

480
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,879
Speaker 5: takedowns that landed him right in these very dominant spots.

481
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 5: His ability to get that body lock and make and

482
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 5: force Brandon Moreno to give his back from top position,

483
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,679
Speaker 5: then he was jumping on the back of Brandon Moreno

484
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,479
Speaker 5: and Reno showed excellent defensive skills, But make no mistake,

485
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 5: these are defensive skills, not offensive skills. I have to

486
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 5: give credit to Pantosia for achieving those positions. I am

487
00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 5: a huge Brandon Moreno fan. I've trained with him, gone

488
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,399
Speaker 5: over a lot of these escapes actually with him, so

489
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 5: you know, maybe you'd call me a little bias, but

490
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 5: I have absolutely no problem with that decision. I thought

491
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 5: Pantosia did enough. I had it to two heading into

492
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 5: round five. I actually tweeted about this. I said, it's

493
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,639
Speaker 5: going to come down to round five. Pantosa just had

494
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,440
Speaker 5: superior position to Brandon Moreno. It was an unbelievable fight.

495
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:25,360
Speaker 5: Both fighters should be congratulated on this one, but Pantosia

496
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 5: just a little too slick, a little too positionally sound

497
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 5: and offensive minded.

498
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 1: I think that was the difference here.

499
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 7: I am okay with a forty eight to forty seven

500
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 7: Brandon Moreno. After watching the fight back, you know, round

501
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 7: three I gave to Brandon Moreno because at the end

502
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 7: of those five minutes there was just too much damage

503
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 7: doled out.

504
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 1: To overlook it.

505
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 7: Despite all of the back control and what I would

506
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 7: deem to be effective grappling overall, and some striking on

507
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,399
Speaker 7: the ground from Alesandre Pantosia, who, by the way, I

508
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 7: still don't think got credit for his effective striking in

509
00:24:58,800 --> 00:24:59,160
Speaker 7: this fight.

510
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 1: Round four I gave to all de Chandre Pantoja. I

511
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 1: think there's still an argument there that Brandon Moreno, based

512
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 1: upon impact and damage and some of his defensive grappling,

513
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 1: could have won that round. But I agree with you.

514
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 1: It was too too going into that fifth round.

515
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 7: And I said on the broadcast when it was eighteen

516
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 7: significant strikes apiece, and again the numbers live don't really

517
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 7: mean anything, but I said, man, you know, I felt

518
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 7: like Moreno had gotten the better of the striking through

519
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 7: three minutes in that fifth and final round. Then when

520
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 7: I saw the numbers, it really made me want to

521
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 7: go back and watch it. And again I didn't give

522
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 7: Pantosian nearly the credit for the fucking bombs he landed

523
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 7: in the first three minutes a round five, and then

524
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,159
Speaker 7: with the effective grappling that he added to his effective

525
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 7: striking over the final two minutes, Round five to me

526
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 7: was easy to score, and I'm just surprised. I understand

527
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 7: for Cartilage to have given rounds three and four to

528
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 7: Brandon Moreno, but to not give all de Chandre Pantoja

529
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 7: round five. I'm just thankful that that particular round scored

530
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 7: didn't affect the outcome.

531
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a very interesting thing seeing scoring in twenty

532
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: twenty three.

533
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,360
Speaker 5: And if I was a fighter competing in the UFC,

534
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 5: I'd be alarmed many times, and you kind of wonder

535
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 5: and scratch your head, like, geez, what the hell are

536
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 5: these judges looking at her?

537
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,199
Speaker 1: What do I need to do to win? To win

538
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 1: around or to fight for that matter.

539
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 5: So I think there's a little bit of inconsistency of

540
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 5: how judges are seeing these rounds, of course, and maybe

541
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,880
Speaker 5: that's just the nature of refereeing in general and mixed

542
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 5: martial arts, right, It's subjective, and you know, the angles

543
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 5: of which you're watching the fights matter and.

544
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 1: All of those things.

545
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,880
Speaker 5: But you know, in the end, I think the right

546
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,880
Speaker 5: guy won. I do not have a problem with Pantusia winning.

547
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 5: I think if Moreno won, I would have scratched my

548
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 5: head a little bit more. I would love to go

549
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,360
Speaker 5: back and watch it and look at it. Those those

550
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 5: there were some close rounds, no question about it. But

551
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 5: either way we have, you know, in my opinion, probably

552
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 5: the best flyweight fight that I've ever seen.

553
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, and it must be said, and perhaps I buried

554
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 7: the lead. Ben Cartledge historically is one of the better

555
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 7: mixed martial arts judges. I just feel like if round

556
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 7: five is not a Panto's around. You know that, sometimes

557
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 7: I don't want to be an MMA fan, right because

558
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 7: I understand that it always becomes a criteria versus common

559
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 7: sense argument, and criteria should always win.

560
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,679
Speaker 1: And I as much as I love the Verdict.

561
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 7: MMA platform, because I really believe in that audience in

562
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 7: terms of its ability to know what it's watching, not

563
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 7: a lot of those people understand the criteria in terms of.

564
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.

565
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 5: That's that's the problem is that, you know, if we

566
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 5: took a poll on something that people don't aren't really

567
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 5: aware of, you know, it's something like quantum physics or something,

568
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 5: and everyone has a certain opinion on it, doesn't mean

569
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,479
Speaker 5: they're right. You know, that means the majority thought that happened,

570
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 5: but it doesn't mean they actually know the criteria for

571
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 5: a judging a fight. So yeah, that's kind of my

572
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 5: problem with the Verdict thing too. It's great to see

573
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 5: who who won, you know, from a fan perspective, but

574
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 5: I'm right there with you.

575
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 7: But in a broad sense, I do think it's wise

576
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 7: for coaches to study judges, and I don't know how

577
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 7: easily they can actually get these assignments, but damaging moments

578
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 7: seem to reign supreme. And I hate to say this

579
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 7: to the three stripe Bersilian jiu jitsu black belt Kenny Florian,

580
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 7: by the way, you're gonna get your red belt in

581
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 7: your sixties or what?

582
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: It's four stripe? But you know, yeah, I really don't

583
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 1: care about that's all. It's okay. You just took away

584
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 1: a stripe from me, John, Come on, how about the

585
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: president of Team Floria not stripes on the beat? I

586
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 1: got you off. What were you asking me? Oh, I

587
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: don't even know. Are you going to get a red

588
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 1: belt in your sixties? I think?

589
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 5: Oh right, I hope so if my back holds up, dude,

590
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 5: my back's been kind of garbage lately, so hopefully I

591
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 5: don't have to retire. I have to stay training, then

592
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 5: I can get my belts.

593
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: But that doesn't matter.

594
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 7: What I was going to say is that it pains

595
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 7: me to tell a four striper resilient jiu jitsu black

596
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 7: belt and again, you know, you trained and fought to finish,

597
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 7: and you can laugh about that all you want, but

598
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 7: we had a pretty deep conversation this weekend about athlete

599
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 7: too trained to win rounds versus athlete who trained to finish.

600
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 7: You know, can flow just fought pissed. I don't know

601
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 7: what was the matter all the time. You know, you're

602
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 7: so nice now, you know.

603
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:21,959
Speaker 5: It's one of those things, right, It's the only way

604
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 5: you can guarantee that you're going to get the win

605
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 5: is that if you're able to finish. And for me,

606
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 5: that was always what I was chasing. It's like, what

607
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 5: are the techniques that I'm supposed to be doing here

608
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 5: to finish a fight? You know, assuming let's take out

609
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 5: the sport aspect of it. It's me and him, that's it.

610
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 5: Two guys in a room, and you got to you

611
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 5: gotta take the other guy out, you know, two minut after.

612
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: One man leave?

613
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 5: How do you finish that thing? And that's what was

614
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 5: always intriguing to me from a fight perspective. I wasn't

615
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 5: always successful of course in that in that realm, but

616
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 5: I tried. I tried anyway.

617
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 7: So what I was going to say to the four

618
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 7: stripe Brazilian jiu jitsu black belt, by the way, when

619
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 7: you get that fifth stripe anyway, how does that work.

620
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 5: That's a good question. I think it's like every five

621
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 5: years now something like that.

622
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. I kick you.

623
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 7: So I have a caffeine free diet coke here, and

624
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 7: I'm a little bit underslept by the way. I was

625
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 7: three hours on the runway in Vegas, right. Normally I

626
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 7: try to get out of there as quickly as possible.

627
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: Excuse me.

628
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 7: There was no direct flight so early on, so I

629
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 7: flew direct middle of the day. But the combination of

630
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 7: heat and wind and the heavy nature of our airplane

631
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 7: had us on the runway for three hours. So I

632
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,479
Speaker 7: got a caffeine free diet coke here. Kenny would tell

633
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 7: you if you put a metal rod in this caffeine

634
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 7: free diet coke, it would like disintegrate the whole thing.

635
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 7: And I'm pouring this into my actual body. If you'll

636
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 7: excuse me, I'm gonna take a ship.

637
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 1: It's great. Your stomach is way tougher than a metal rod. Bro.

638
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 7: What I was gonna say, though, to the four strike

639
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 7: Brazilian jiu Jitsu black belt and mixed martial arts coach,

640
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 7: is that I think, in a broad sense, effective grappling

641
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 7: just doesn't get the consideration that effective striking does because

642
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 7: it's easy to quantify the elbow that just smashed Pantoja's face,

643
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 7: and it's harder to quantify Brandon Moreno's breathing pattern in

644
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 7: the body triangle and his inability to get out or

645
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 7: really do anything up against the fence in round five.

646
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 8: Right.

647
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 7: So, I don't know, man, but I do think it's

648
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 7: ludicrous for people to be calling for Ben Kartlich's job.

649
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 7: Forty eight to forty seven Moreno is an acceptable scorecard.

650
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 7: Round five for Moreno to me is not acceptable and

651
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Speaker 7: makes me want to do everything I can when I retire,

652
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Speaker 7: if it actually comes to this, to try to affect

653
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Speaker 7: change when it comes to the criteria, you know, because

654
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Speaker 7: Kenny and all his contemporaries find me, one of Kenny's

655
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 7: contemporaries out there, who scored round five for the other guy,

656
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Speaker 7: and then someone's going to say, oh, John, the criteria.

657
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 7: And if I say, like, fuck the criteria, you know,

658
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 7: then I got all these people coming at me. And

659
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Speaker 7: Shan Sheen's my friend, but I didn't put him on

660
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 7: today because I didn't think he'd want to hear this noise,

661
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 7: you know, all right, A lot more to get to

662
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Speaker 7: on this UFC two ninety recap. Ray Longo coming up

663
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Speaker 7: here in about twelve minutes. Shawnee. I love you, kid,

664
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Speaker 7: absolutely love you. I can't wait to have you back

665
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 7: on the show. You elevate the whole room. Are well, No,

666
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 7: we have to decide what's next for Pantosia before we

667
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Speaker 7: get to jacs du plus see okay and my tattoo.

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Speaker 7: All right, So Annik Florian Podcast Poll question at Annik

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Speaker 7: Florian Pod. Who would you like to see next for

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Speaker 7: a La Chandre Pantosia, So Brandon Roival, as many of

671
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Speaker 7: you know, weigh in as the backup. Thirty nine percent

672
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Speaker 7: of about three thousand of you we'd like to see

673
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Speaker 7: Brandon Roival for the newly minted UFC Flyway Champion allach

674
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Speaker 7: Andre Pantoja can flow. Fifty percent would like to see

675
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Speaker 7: the Brandon Moreno rematch. Eleven percent would like to see

676
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Speaker 7: Amir Al Bazi, who many don't believe really deserve to

677
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 7: be Kai Catafrances at least as far as those scorecards

678
00:32:53,200 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 7: were concerned. So Royvaal is just an oncoming train see

679
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Speaker 7: television weigh in as the backup. But we now are

680
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Speaker 7: on the heels of what many people believe is the

681
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 7: greatest flyweight fight, greatest championship fight in UFC flyweight history.

682
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Speaker 1: The history is what it is. It's crazy to think

683
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: about Brandon Moreno preparing for another individual for a fourth time,

684
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Speaker 1: but hey, half the fan base, at least that I pulled,

685
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: wants to see that rematch immediately.

686
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Speaker 7: And I can understand why. I do have a soft

687
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 7: spot for Roy Vault because of his style and is

688
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 7: just a good dude. Kenny, what are you doing next

689
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Speaker 7: to twenty five? If you're Mick Maynard, who, by the way,

690
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 7: deserves to be congratulated wholly on what he's done with

691
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Speaker 7: this division, go ahead.

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Speaker 1: No question about it. McK mayner's done an amazing job. Listen.

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Speaker 5: I think that if you make this fight again and

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Speaker 5: again and again, we're gonna great.

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Speaker 1: We're going to We're going to get great fights.

696
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Speaker 5: Like if you're the UFC and you're trying to put

697
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 5: on the best fight possible, then yeah, you can absolutely

698
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Speaker 5: justify a Moreno Pedtosia rematch, especially given the fact that

699
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Speaker 5: it was very close and maybe some might might call

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Speaker 5: it controversial. However, I think I would think they probably want.

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Speaker 1: To move on and in that they want some new

702
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Speaker 1: blood in the division.

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Speaker 5: They want to test Pantoja as the new champ, and

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Speaker 5: I think Pantoja probably deserves that at this stage of

705
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Speaker 5: the game. He has the wins over Moreno. At least

706
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Speaker 5: give him a little bit of a break, you know.

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Speaker 5: Put him in there against all BOSSI put him in

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Speaker 5: there against Rouval. You know, I think that both guys

709
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 5: are aggressive, are going to move forward, are intriguing matchups.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, I don't have a problem with either of

711
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Speaker 5: those guys. If I had to lean a certain way,

712
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Speaker 5: I don't know. I mean, I thought kay Car Frantz

713
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 5: won that fight against al Bosi, so I'm not necessarily

714
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 5: trying to penalize al Bozi here. But yeah, maybe Royvald

715
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 5: probably makes the most amount of sense at this stage

716
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Speaker 5: of the game.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you're almost talking me out of the fourth fight

718
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Speaker 7: right now with Brandon Moreno, even though I know one

719
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Speaker 7: of the first three was actually an exhibition. Chanre Pantosa

720
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Speaker 7: and Brandon Royvald did fight. It was August of twenty

721
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Speaker 7: twenty one. I believe at the Ufcapex Pantosas submitted Roy

722
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 7: Ball with a rear naked choke. But it's been three

723
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 7: straight wins for Roybal. Ever since I agree, I think

724
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 7: Pantosia Royval is the fight to make we all understand

725
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 7: how successful the Mexican initiative has been. And again, you know,

726
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 7: I know the UFC cuts my check, but how about

727
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 7: what this promotion has done to lay infrastructure in Mexico.

728
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 7: This probably should have been in our opening segment or

729
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 7: the opening five minutes of the show, Kenny, Right, like,

730
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Speaker 7: as somebody who covered so many amazing fights involving Marco,

731
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Speaker 7: Antonio Barrera and Eric Morales and everybody else in boxing,

732
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 7: this Mexican imprint has now been made in mixed martial arts.

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Speaker 1: Right.

734
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 7: These people are descending upon Las Vegas. They overtook the

735
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 7: UFC Fan Expo. Their presence was felt from from the

736
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Speaker 7: Jasmine Hawrigi fight throughout.

737
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Speaker 1: The rest of the night.

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Speaker 7: You know, this is a huge, huge thing for the UFC,

739
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Speaker 7: and I can't quantify in terms of the internal metrics

740
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 7: how much you know they want to put moreno back

741
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Speaker 7: in a championship setting. But I think you go Pantosia

742
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Speaker 7: roy Bowl and that's the Flyway championship fight you do next.

743
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Speaker 7: By the way, Kenny, what's your what's your schedule, like

744
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 7: later in the week, we got to catch up with Pahompa.

745
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,760
Speaker 7: We were trying actually to get all the Chanre Pantosia

746
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Speaker 7: and Pahoopa later in the week. So depending on your schedule. Uh,

747
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Speaker 7: I'm bonus episode of the Aneicmploring podcast. All right, we

748
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Speaker 7: now have arrived at Dracus Duplessi by TKO over Robert Whittaker.

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Speaker 7: It comes at two twenty three of round two. He

750
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Speaker 7: gets a performance bonus. As you might expect. The physicality

751
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 7: that this man brings to the octagon is just absolutely

752
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 7: incredible and h he's underrated no more. But undeterred is

753
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 7: one word that comes to mind when it comes to

754
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 7: his overall approach to mixed martial arts. You know, they've

755
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 7: put he and his brother Robert Whitaker on a pedestal

756
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 7: for years. They felt like maybe this was a dream

757
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 7: that could eventually become reality. They could work their way

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00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 7: to a fight against Robert Whitaker. They called their shot

759
00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 7: inside of ten minutes and tremendous human being, great individual,

760
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 7: great for South Africa, great for mixed martial arts. And

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Speaker 7: we get to know these guys couldn't possibly be happier

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00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 7: for Draki's duplicity.

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Speaker 1: You know, Rickis, he doesn't make it pretty, but that's

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Speaker 1: a part of his strength.

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Speaker 5: And I thought he shelled up extremely well against an

766
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 5: offense in Whittaker that really lacked creativity. He wasn't making

767
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 5: many adjustments, and Rob seemed to be forcing a knockout

768
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 5: out there. I expected Whittaker to punch with Drickis as

769
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 5: he came forward, because that's what drickis or that's when

770
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 5: Drickis is most vulnerable, is when he's punching, when he's

771
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Speaker 5: moving forward. So I thought that Whittaker really was trying

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Speaker 5: to force a knockout that really wasn't there due to

773
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Speaker 5: the defense and the shelling of Dricis, And I thought

774
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 5: it was Whittaker that was showing some frustration out there.

775
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 5: And I also loved the attacks on the ground from

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Speaker 5: Drickis Dupless. He really surprised me with how aggressive he

777
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 5: was and going with that dars and how he was

778
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 5: combining it with excellent ground and pound and positioning. I

779
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 5: did not expect that from him. Hit some critical takedowns

780
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Speaker 5: against Whittaker, which I also did not expect him to

781
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 5: get so easily.

782
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Speaker 1: So I don't know Rob really wasn't countering properly.

783
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Speaker 5: And you know, I thought that overall it was the durability,

784
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 5: it was the power, and it was the unrelenting pressure

785
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 5: of Drinkis Dupless that got the better of Whittaker. And

786
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Speaker 5: I don't know, I think it was an amazing performance.

787
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Speaker 1: It was a performance that I think is good enough.

788
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Speaker 5: If it's good enough to beat the great Robert Whittaker,

789
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Speaker 5: then it's good enough to get the next title shot

790
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Speaker 5: against Israel Outisnia. So I massively underestimated Drinkis do place duplesic.

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Speaker 5: I think that, uh, he not only beat Whittaker, but

792
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 5: did exactly what he needed to do if he wanted

793
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Speaker 5: to guarantee himself that next shot against Atasania.

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Speaker 1: I mean, finishing Whittaker. I don't think a whole lot.

795
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 5: Of people saw that coming, and the fact that he

796
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 5: was able to do that and do it in pretty

797
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 5: dominant fashion says a lot.

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Speaker 1: And congratulations to Dricis du plus and yeah, just very

799
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Speaker 1: very impressed and blown away.

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Speaker 7: I'm glad to hear you mentioned the word shelling and

801
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 7: shelling up right, because I thought from the moment the

802
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 7: fight began, Drake Is dupleus C was so mindful of

803
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Speaker 7: Whittaker's power, and he really didn't get touched with anything

804
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 7: too significant. I do think it's a huge ask, as

805
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 7: I've uttered repeatedly for him to now turn around in

806
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 7: less than nine weeks now in faces here a lot

807
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 7: of sonia, his hands were very swollen. He's obviously dealing

808
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 7: with some facial cut of some kind as well, So

809
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 7: it's obviously asking a lot. But that is not the

810
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 7: conversation for right now. It's the duplus C performance and

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Speaker 7: Kenny just the ability to be measured and collected late

812
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 7: in the fight, right he knows Whittaker is completely stunned,

813
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 7: and that he then he absolutely destroys him with a

814
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 7: body shot right like he's just mixing it up and

815
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Speaker 7: in that flow state. Just a brilliant, brilliant performance. And

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Speaker 7: one thing that I noticed that I should have made

817
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Speaker 7: more of on the broadcast, the Whittaker visuals Kenny on

818
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Speaker 7: the stool after round one like he was done man,

819
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Speaker 7: like he had been effectively collided with by a bus

820
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 7: and he was done, like he couldn't get his breathing

821
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Speaker 7: back when he stood back up. It was like not

822
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Speaker 7: the Robert Whittaker that you recognized. Outcome felt like an

823
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Speaker 7: eventuality after round one, and I wish I had sort

824
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Speaker 7: of made more of that visual on the broadcast. But

825
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Speaker 7: that's an incredible singular middleweight win man, no.

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Speaker 5: Question about it. And I think that a lot of

827
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Speaker 5: that had to do with Dupless, no question about it.

828
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Speaker 5: But I wonder and I questioned some of the approach,

829
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Speaker 5: the approach of Whittaker in this one, because it seemed

830
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Speaker 5: like he was dead set on getting the knockout and

831
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Speaker 5: when that really wasn't presenting itself, and when he was

832
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Speaker 5: throwing shots at the elbows and arms of duplus C,

833
00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 5: he just seemed to be overwhelmingly frustrated and did adapt.

834
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Speaker 5: He didn't attack the body, he didn't attack the legs,

835
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 5: He wasn't mixing things up as much as I thought

836
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Speaker 5: he should have, and because of that, he allowed duplus

837
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 5: C to come in and get into proper range and

838
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 5: land some critical shots and just overwhelm him with that pressure.

839
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Speaker 1: So unfortunate for Whittaker.

840
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 5: You know, we saw I guess, kind of a brain

841
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 5: fog or maybe him get overly emotional in his fight

842
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 5: against at Asanya, the one that he got knocked out in,

843
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:30,839
Speaker 5: and I kind of saw shades of that where emotionally,

844
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 5: you know, Whittaker seems like a very stoic guy. But

845
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 5: this was another one of those performances that you know,

846
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 5: you kind of wonder what he was trying to do

847
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 5: out there, and I don't know it was unfortunate, but

848
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 5: I think a lot of it had to do with

849
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 5: duplus C in.

850
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 1: That awkward game.

851
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, almost when you have a very technical fighter, it

852
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 5: almost serves you to be like a complete opposite, to

853
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 5: be like, you know, a polar opposite of that person,

854
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 5: because being awkward, be unorthodox, not really having a rhythm

855
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 5: that you can get a handle on can really confuse

856
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 5: even the best guys in the world.

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Speaker 1: So dupless he admitted to being able to breathe better.

858
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 7: But I think if he was on the show today,

859
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 7: he would tell you that maybe too much has been

860
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 7: made of that deviated septum surgery in terms of maybe

861
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 7: how much better it makes him feel. Only he could

862
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 7: really tell you right now. But you and I when

863
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Speaker 7: we were talking to my hotel room before the fight,

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Speaker 7: you've sort of talked about the tight nature of some

865
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Speaker 7: of his striking and his arms as potentially a catalyst

866
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 7: for the fatigue. Would you say, now, I know we're

867
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Speaker 7: talking about you know, let's see seven minutes of fight time,

868
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 7: but would you say, now, like, didn't he look less tight?

869
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,800
Speaker 1: Am I crazy? Like? He looked less tight upstairs?

870
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Speaker 4: Did he not?

871
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: He did? He actually did.

872
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 5: He came up way more relaxed, actually, and you know

873
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 5: it was actually a Whitaker that looked way tighter. So

874
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 5: I don't know, there's something to be said for being

875
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 5: in a position of having nothing to lose.

876
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Speaker 1: I know we talk about all talk about that all

877
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 1: the time, but he seemed like he was very much

878
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: at ease man.

879
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 5: You know, he was tight up when he was showing,

880
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 5: which is what you're supposed to, but more than anything else,

881
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 5: he seemed very loose and relaxing in his element and

882
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 5: a very important fighting man, and he made the most

883
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Speaker 5: out of it.

884
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 7: You know, I'd hate to need Israel lot of Sonya

885
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 7: to beat him to avoid having to get a flag

886
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 7: from the Great Nation of South Africa tattooed on our body.

887
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 7: You know, I can't say that like I would want

888
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,320
Speaker 7: this tattoo as much as the two to zero nine tattoo,

889
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 7: if I'm being completely truthful with our audience.

890
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:28,280
Speaker 1: But I absolutely love this individual.

891
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:33,240
Speaker 7: I love Cameron Simon, I love just the nationalistic nature

892
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 7: of what some of these individuals and countries have done

893
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 7: to sort of make this UFC imprint, but it is

894
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 7: asking a whole lot kenny of him to now turn

895
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 7: around and fight Israel lot of Sonya on nine weeks.

896
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 7: Notice now it wasn't ideal for Balah Muhammad to get

897
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 7: his big fight against Gilbert Burns with no training camp

898
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,240
Speaker 7: and then he had one wheel essentially right, But sometimes

899
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 7: as a challenger or contender, it isn't on your calendar,

900
00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 7: and even as a champion like al Jae main Sterling,

901
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 7: depending on his calendar. So what would you say to

902
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,800
Speaker 7: Dracus Duplesse, who would not necessarily have the benefit of

903
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 7: bringing in the best sporing partners potentially to provide some layth?

904
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 1: I mean, how do you prepare for this challenge?

905
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 7: And based upon what you saw Saturday night, how do

906
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 7: you handicap a fight in less than nine weeks in

907
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Speaker 7: Sydney between dupleus Ce and Ottosa.

908
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 1: Yeah?

909
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 5: I mean, first of all, you're facing out of Sonya,

910
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 5: who is going to have an advantage on a technical

911
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 5: level again to anyone in that division, So you know,

912
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,800
Speaker 5: can he really get that much better in preparation for

913
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 5: aut of Sonya.

914
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: I don't know.

915
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 5: I think his style is already sufficient to post some

916
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 5: problems for Auto Sonya. So more than anything else, I

917
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 5: think it's about managing his training and not going too

918
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 5: crazy since it is a potential type turnaround. So I

919
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 5: think he should allow himself to get healthy, you know,

920
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 5: take care of any bumps and bruises that he might have,

921
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 5: and get right back into training. Ease back into training.

922
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 5: You know you brought up Bellah Mohammed's name. I think

923
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 5: that's an approach freak comparison. Why Because I think these

924
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 5: are two guys that are big time athletes in that

925
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 5: they can handle a tremendous amount of volume with their training.

926
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Speaker 1: You know.

927
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,240
Speaker 5: Of course, I've heard about the laws you know, volume

928
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 5: of training, and for Drinckis, I don't know that to

929
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Speaker 5: be a fact, but I would imagine that he can

930
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 5: handle that volume of training just based on what I've

931
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 5: seen and based on his style of fighting. I think

932
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 5: conditioning and being durable is a huge part of who

933
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 5: he is. So I don't think it's a major deal

934
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 5: for someone like drinkis for someone else who's more technical

935
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 5: and tactical, I would say, yeah, give him some more time.

936
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 5: But for someone like drinkis du plus I don't see

937
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 5: it as a major hurdle here. I think in some

938
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 5: ways it could be advantageous for him.

939
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: Man, you're good. I mean you're You're really good.

940
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 7: You know my twin brother was saying, after spending some

941
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 7: time with you, it's like, man, analytically, he really is good.

942
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: I thought you overrated him for years.

943
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 7: Drake is DUPLESSI he gave me a still Knock sweatshirt too,

944
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 7: gave me a gift, and then goes out and does that.

945
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: God love you. Drink is due plus c Dracus.

946
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 7: You know, you can say Dracus sdricus Dracus, but the

947
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:08,839
Speaker 7: audio file dracus as in like Draymond Green Dracus du

948
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Speaker 7: plus c. One name a little bit easier to pronounce.

949
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Speaker 7: Raymond Peter Longo.

950
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Speaker 1: Let's get to him.

951
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 2: It's now time for the Ray Longo minutes. I'm gonna

952
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 2: that's what the Ray long minute, the John Nick and

953
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 2: Kenny Florian podcast.

954
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,439
Speaker 8: Hey, look at this, That's what I'm talking about. That's

955
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 8: what I take Kenny Knock into that of the park.

956
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 8: I agree, I don't know where he points. I don't

957
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 8: know where he finds the enthusiasm for.

958
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 1: The so law coffee helps. So I felt a little

959
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: bad for Cody.

960
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 7: You know, Kenny and I are hitting him pretty hard

961
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 7: with this Ray Longo minute, framing you up and untangling

962
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 7: your headphones. We were all together in Vegas and Kenny

963
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 7: and I were like, hey, man, like, can we get

964
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 7: Longo framed up? Can we get him some new headphones?

965
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 7: And now this week you're perfectly framed up your head

966
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 7: from stone.

967
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's episode four hundred and twenty one.

968
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 4: Holy shit. I'll tell you this ain't the first time

969
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 4: I've been framed.

970
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 8: I'll tell you right now.

971
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 7: Your hair, I mean, I don't know if it looks

972
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 7: like Chick hern or whoever you look like today.

973
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 1: You look great, though. It's nice to see you.

974
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,720
Speaker 4: What a weekend to hit? What a weekend?

975
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 7: What a weekend for the Ultimate Fighting Championship UFC two

976
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:27,919
Speaker 7: ninety I've done about three hundred shows.

977
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:29,399
Speaker 1: That's the greatest fight card I've ever called.

978
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,240
Speaker 7: So when you consider all factors, Trump in the building

979
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 7: and everything else, just the magnitude of that live event

980
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 7: cap showing International flight week, greatest live events I've But

981
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 7: I got a.

982
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 5: Question, did Donald Trump come over to you while you

983
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 5: were commentating the fight and basically just interrupt you?

984
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 3: What it?

985
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 1: What happened?

986
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 7: So it was during the vow Woodburn bo Nickel preamble,

987
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 7: and yeah, I had to stop myself and uh till

988
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 7: forty five. We appreciated his support because I will say

989
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:02,359
Speaker 7: he watches these uf SEE fight nights, right, and at

990
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 7: the end of the day, there's a lot of people

991
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 7: who have a lot of opinions out there, and that's

992
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 7: absolutely fine, right, But he is a genuine individual to us,

993
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 7: and he acknowledges our work and he just likes to

994
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 7: be at this live event.

995
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 5: And I don't know, it's uh, look at how humble

996
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 5: John Annik is. I think he said you're his favorite comedy,

997
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 5: that's all.

998
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:29,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, that was a unique moment, right, It's always wild

999
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 7: when the Secret Service is in the broadcast booth.

1000
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 1: But how you doing? Right?

1001
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 4: Oh?

1002
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 8: Really good? Love love listening to I love listening to

1003
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 8: the Trump stories. This is fantastic. You'll probably get bombarded later.

1004
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: Oh, get absolutely destroyed.

1005
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 4: Oh you got to get killed.

1006
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've lost five thousand Instagram followers since I posted something.

1007
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 4: Comedy son of.

1008
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 7: A I'm majored in political journalism. My senior thesis was

1009
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 7: how the Media undermines American Democracy?

1010
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 1: Oh, how pages?

1011
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 4: What year was that?

1012
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 1: That was in two thousand and one?

1013
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 4: Wow?

1014
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: How pressing is that?

1015
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 4: How crazy? That? To me? Is? That's why I say

1016
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,720
Speaker 4: history repeats itself. There's nothing going on any anyway.

1017
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 1: It's just sounds pretty sophisticated, I believe. I gotta tell

1018
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 1: you if I love it.

1019
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, no, I just you know, a lot of a

1020
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 7: lot of cannabis in the air as I was trying

1021
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 7: to manufacture those forty pages. So I don't think it

1022
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 7: was the most organized senior thesis they received that year.

1023
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 7: But you know what, we got our We walked, We

1024
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 7: had graduation, We got our walking papers, so to speak.

1025
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:39,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, things, things don't change.

1026
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 8: I did a I did a speech once in at

1027
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 8: Saint John's on how to handle an incompetent force, you know,

1028
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 8: like narcissism to the table, the same ship over and

1029
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 8: over again, like it's just not whatever.

1030
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:56,320
Speaker 1: I don't know's I don't even know where to begin

1031
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: with you, So let me just throw this here. Go ahead.

1032
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, well, let's pick up on dricks please,

1033
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 4: dri is Duplesses is trick as please now. Kenny's right on.

1034
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 8: I mean.

1035
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 4: I think I would have lost my house on that

1036
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 4: fight Kenny did.

1037
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 5: I did five ye better on. I was like, no way,

1038
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 5: he wins this fight. Yeah, yeah, thank you Dricks for

1039
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 5: putting me in my place. I ate some humble pipe.

1040
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 8: I really, I don't know I get it now, though

1041
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 8: I get it. He could take a lot of punishment.

1042
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:37,839
Speaker 8: He's gonna keep coming forwarding. He probably hits. I don't

1043
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 8: know what it is, man, you just don't see nothing almost.

1044
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,439
Speaker 8: It kind of reminds me and rest in peace. Really,

1045
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 8: I love the guy. Theodoro re member.

1046
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:49,919
Speaker 5: Like they have that he's more impressive than Elias. But yeah,

1047
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 5: but I'm saying it's that's he's like he's like a

1048
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 5: throwback from like Mark Coleman days. He's like he's like

1049
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:58,720
Speaker 5: a m M a throwback.

1050
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 8: And it works like like I think if you tried

1051
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 8: to really tighten them up, you'd fucking ruin him completely.

1052
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 8: He's just gotta we gotta, you gotta squeeze as much

1053
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 8: of this juice out of this guy right now. And

1054
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 8: it looks like he's doing it like he's there's guys

1055
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 8: in the gym that are more tough than they are technical,

1056
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 8: And that's definitely I think where he sits, it just

1057
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 8: doesn't look it looks like his kicks a labor and

1058
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 8: they're all balanced. But man, he gets the job done almost.

1059
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 8: I'm starting to I'm starting to turn over the like

1060
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 8: I think I'm a fan of this this guy's.

1061
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 1: I think I think I think you're underrating the ability

1062
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: a little bit there. I could be, could be, but

1063
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: I mean, this is.

1064
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 7: Got a great chance to be the goddamn middleweight champion

1065
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 7: in less than nine weeks. And he would then have

1066
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 7: lay claimed to wins over Robert Whittaker and Israel Ada

1067
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:52,800
Speaker 7: Sonia in a span of nine weeks. Yeah, that is

1068
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 7: that is insane.

1069
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 1: I'll say this. I'm not saying he's gonna win, but

1070
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:57,959
Speaker 1: you are.

1071
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 5: Saying, but surprised if a ton of money is bet

1072
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 5: on drinks due plus against Otasani just because look, who

1073
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 5: can't like he might just pull it up.

1074
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 8: Yeah right, Look, you know he could drag he could Look,

1075
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 8: he could take a lot of punishment. He could drag

1076
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:15,720
Speaker 8: the guy to the floor a couple of times.

1077
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,800
Speaker 4: Who the hell knows. But he's you know, like again,

1078
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 4: it's crazy what I saw the other night. So hats

1079
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 4: off to that guy.

1080
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 8: Man, I'm I'm a hundred and thirty percent wrong whatever,

1081
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 8: right thought, you know what I mean. It's just I

1082
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 8: didn't think he could. I didn't think he could do it,

1083
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 8: even when he hit him with the jib and knocked

1084
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 8: him down, his heads going the other way. Even look

1085
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 8: at the slow motion like he's not even looking at him, Kenny, He's.

1086
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 1: Just I know he must have bowls it off.

1087
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 4: I don't know, bows it off. Yeah, I don't know.

1088
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:43,240
Speaker 4: God bless.

1089
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 7: So when I did the two oh nine tattoo bet

1090
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 7: on the Anaican Floring Podcast in twenty sixteen, it was

1091
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 7: like I wanted the tattoo.

1092
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 1: I did the bet. It was all my idea. Nick

1093
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:54,879
Speaker 1: Diez was my favorite fighter. YadA, YadA, YadA.

1094
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 7: Right this time around, it's like you bring up the

1095
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 7: tattoo bet in the Ray Long Go minute. It's like

1096
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 7: I don't want a South African flag tattooed on my body,

1097
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 7: and yet I love Drake is Dupless, you know, but

1098
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 7: it's like I'd rather fucking break a beer bottle over

1099
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 7: my head live on the Anaconfloring Podcast with a medicon standby.

1100
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 7: It's just silly, right, Like I like tattoo bets. This

1101
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 7: is the fourth one I've done on the show, but

1102
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 7: like it's just as silly. Man, you know, this wasn't

1103
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,280
Speaker 7: even my idea, and now I'm in all this fucking

1104
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 7: hot water.

1105
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, we're is concerned.

1106
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 8: We don't want to see you all tatted up by

1107
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 8: the time you're sixty, which is a possibility that you

1108
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 8: have no more space on your body to get tattooed.

1109
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 4: That's what we're trying to prevent.

1110
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 7: Well, and we're also trying to prevent people from thinking

1111
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 7: that I'm knocking still knocks here, which isn't the case.

1112
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 1: Right.

1113
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 7: This is me in the moment, as you asked me

1114
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 7: last week, right, trying to think, well, yeah, this singular accomplishment, right,

1115
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 7: if this dude can do this in nine weeks ken

1116
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 7: he beating Robert Whitaker in Israel, lot of sign. You

1117
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 7: know what, we'll get the South African flag tattooed, right, Like,

1118
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 7: it's quite the accomplishment, you know what.

1119
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 1: The flag's killer. I'm starting to talk myself into this

1120
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 1: little bit.

1121
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 4: So yeah, that's pretty crazy, but no, no, that's off

1122
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 4: to him.

1123
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: What else he's gonna win, though. Do you understand though?

1124
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 7: Like because I have it? No, no, no, because I

1125
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 7: have this tattoo. Bet he's gonna beat nine. Where's where's

1126
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 7: the tattoo going? Is it a chess piece?

1127
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 1: Is it back? What are we talking about here? John?

1128
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 1: What about like underneath the eye, like a little like

1129
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 1: I tattooed no neck at Anna Florine pod. If you

1130
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 1: have location suggestions, I tell you lower back.

1131
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:33,479
Speaker 4: I love lower He turned it right into a promotional piece.

1132
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:34,439
Speaker 4: I loved this yet.

1133
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 7: So I don't even know where to begin with you,

1134
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:41,399
Speaker 7: Ray and uh we have you for about twenty five

1135
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 7: more minutes. I want to ask you about Dan Hooker,

1136
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 7: Jalen Turner, bone Nicol, I want to ask you about

1137
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 7: Pantosia and Moreno, let us start with bon Nickel if

1138
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 7: we could. I know he doesn't need a nickname, but

1139
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 7: DC called him blue Chip. I think you know blue

1140
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 7: Chip bone Nickel. My goodness, fucking gracious. Thirty eight seconds

1141
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 7: he he turns the power on val Woodburn, who who

1142
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 7: is better than you think? I'll just say that. What

1143
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,240
Speaker 7: else can be said about bon Nickel? He can wrestle,

1144
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 7: and he put the hands on display for the world

1145
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:11,320
Speaker 7: to see Raymond.

1146
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, no, listen, he did exactly what he had to do.

1147
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 8: A guy like that last minute replacement, he got rid

1148
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,839
Speaker 8: of him quickly. Like again, that fight ends up going

1149
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 8: into the third round, you'd get a whole lot of criticism.

1150
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 8: He should have did this, he should have did that.

1151
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 8: So he's bon Nickel right now. Is he's back in

1152
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:32,479
Speaker 8: a thousand. He's doing everything he's supposed to be doing

1153
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 8: the way he's supposed to be doing it. And I

1154
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 8: think he did it again, And I mean right now.

1155
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 8: They do have to up his competition. He's got a

1156
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 8: couple of fights under his belt. It's crazy how many

1157
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 8: fights this guy has. But blue Chip is a perfect

1158
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 8: name for this guy, and I'd like to see him

1159
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 8: just bump the competition a little bit. I personally don't

1160
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 8: think he's gonna have any problems, but you know, the

1161
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 8: last minut of replacement stuff and stuff like that's he's

1162
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 8: proven he's way beyond that at this point.

1163
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 1: Kenceler, what do you have for us on Bonnickel? Well,

1164
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 1: apparently bo can put you on your back with his

1165
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 1: fists as well.

1166
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:10,399
Speaker 8: Man.

1167
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:13,240
Speaker 5: That does not bone well for everyone else the division.

1168
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 5: I think what was most impressive for me watching the knockout,

1169
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 5: it's not just the power shots that anybody can do.

1170
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 5: That anyone can got a swing for the fences and

1171
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 5: Landham what was most impressive was his composure and his

1172
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 5: vision in the pocket. He almost looked like a seasoned striker.

1173
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:32,320
Speaker 5: And I'm like, this guy doesn't have the resume, he

1174
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 5: doesn't have the striking pedigree, he doesn't even have the

1175
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 5: MMA experience, and he's looking like this against another guy

1176
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 5: who is a striker, and granted he's a lot smaller

1177
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 5: than him, but his ability to kind of just get

1178
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 5: out of range and he's watching everything with his eyes.

1179
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 1: He's just moving out of.

1180
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 5: The way of the fist and he's coming right back

1181
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 5: with a counter shot and that stuff you usually see

1182
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 5: from like high level strikers. So to me, what it

1183
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 5: shows is that this guy is an insane world class competitor.

1184
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 5: I think that he showed a lot in this fight.

1185
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 5: He's gonna build off of his confidence with his striking

1186
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 5: because of this performance. And if you want to fight

1187
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 5: Bo Nickel, fight him now, don't fight him later, because

1188
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 5: if he's making these kind of improvements and if his

1189
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 5: game is where it is right now, after such little experience. Dude,

1190
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 5: the sky's the limit, you know, just watching him move

1191
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 5: around and practice, he has that something special and I

1192
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 5: think it's probably, in my opinion, something more special than

1193
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 5: what Hamzat Chimayev has. So to me down the line,

1194
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 5: if these guys face each other already, I'm leaning towards

1195
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 5: bo Nickel just based on how he moves. Chimaya doesn't

1196
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 5: have that kind of footwork. He doesn't have that kind

1197
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 5: He's more of a juggernaut destroyer. But I think bo

1198
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 5: Nicchol is going to be more technical, I think, both

1199
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 5: with his wrestling and with his striking. So I'm really

1200
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 5: excited to see if these guys face each other in

1201
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 5: the future. But I like the fact that bon Nicchol

1202
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 5: has and taking the right fights, getting the right experience.

1203
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 1: I think now he's going to be testing a little

1204
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 1: bit more now.

1205
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 5: I don't think he should go in at top fifteen

1206
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 5: just yet, because if the UFC knows what they have

1207
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 5: and someone like bo nicol and can build this guy up,

1208
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 5: they're already putting him on main cards of pay per

1209
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 5: views with such little experience. Build him up, get him

1210
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 5: that experience, because he might be the next guy when

1211
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 5: atas Signa's on the way out. Bo Nickel will take

1212
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 5: that thrown and probably hold that belt for a very

1213
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 5: long time.

1214
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 7: Incredibly high praise and I think a lot of it

1215
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 7: worthwhile there from Kenthal. I do believe that's a dream

1216
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 7: matchup Bo Nicol and Kamzat Chimaya. And some people have

1217
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 7: said it, man, you really high on bon Nickel, But

1218
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 7: I take it from his coaches too, take it from

1219
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 7: kenfl if he don't take it from me.

1220
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 8: And somebody said in the announcing boot that his mother

1221
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 8: is a boxing trainer, which makes sense to it looks

1222
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 8: like he's grown up boxing, or at least around it,

1223
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 8: because like Kenny said, the in and out foot work,

1224
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 8: the awareness getting out of the way of punch is

1225
00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 8: just enough to come back and land you a punches.

1226
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 8: That's not something that you you get overnight. Man, You've

1227
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 8: got to be in the gym a while for that.

1228
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 8: So yeah, this sky is the limit. But I would

1229
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 8: like they could bump them. Now they have to bump

1230
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 8: them because it'll they'll bump them.

1231
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 7: But I agree with Kenny. Bump them to the top

1232
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 7: twenty five, not the top fifteen. Yeah, that isn't to

1233
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 7: say that there aren't winnable fights in the middleway top

1234
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 7: fifteen right now.

1235
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 1: And I'm not going to start naming names, but bow

1236
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 1: Net is a problem.

1237
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 8: How about this bump them to where he's not a

1238
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 8: minus one thousand. Let's get him around, yes, a minus

1239
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 8: five hundred, let's do that, you know, makes them one thousand.

1240
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:39,919
Speaker 7: Right, And he was he was four figures against Treyshawn Gore,

1241
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 7: who was the initial opponent. But congrats to bow Nickel.

1242
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 7: What an absolute monster. And I think Kenny's sort of

1243
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 7: talking about just sort of this almost championship aura that

1244
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 7: you already see, just the way he commands a training room,

1245
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 7: the way he wraps his fucking hands. I mean, it's

1246
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 7: just like he's just had so much one on one

1247
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 7: competition at the highest level, so many pressure pack situations

1248
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 7: and wrestling that, uh, you know, you always wonder how

1249
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 7: a guy will transition when they can get punched in

1250
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 7: the mouth and he will face adversity and inevitably, but uh,

1251
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 7: you know, he looks like a big game player Kensel

1252
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 7: and I.

1253
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 5: Loved his message at the end in the post fight

1254
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 5: interview with Joe, how he's talking about you know that

1255
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 5: basically it's okay to be a great husband and a

1256
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 5: great father, and you know, he has a kid on

1257
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 5: the way, and I think, you know, we need athletes,

1258
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 5: you know, like Bo Nicchol giving those messages and reminding

1259
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 5: people more than ever in this world where we get

1260
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 5: all this crappy news.

1261
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 1: But to hear someone like bow Nicchol who's like looks.

1262
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 5: Like he's genuinely trying to be a good human being

1263
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 5: and trying to you know, support that I thought was

1264
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 5: pretty damn awesome.

1265
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1266
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 8: Unfortunately, unfortunately, and it's very unfortunate, probably work against him.

1267
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 8: He's too nice of a guy like that. You know,

1268
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 8: they they want the bullshit. Look at what happened without

1269
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 8: a son, after the after the fight with the other guy.

1270
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 8: What the what the fuck am I even listening to?

1271
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 4: That?

1272
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:54,960
Speaker 1: Was kind of cringe.

1273
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, who the fuck wants to listen to that series?

1274
01:00:57,400 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 1: And I like the guy.

1275
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 8: Yeah that that that's not doing anything for anybody, like zero,

1276
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 8: you know what I mean.

1277
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 4: So so when you get a guy like Bo Nickel

1278
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 4: talking like that, I love it. I absolutely love it.

1279
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1280
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 7: I mean the thing in my life that I take

1281
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 7: the most seriously is his fatherhood. And speaking of Witch Ray,

1282
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 7: I did want to get your thoughts on Allsandre Pantosa's

1283
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 7: post fight speech, which to me goes down as like

1284
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 7: number one all time in terms of just it hitting

1285
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 7: me right where it matters. And you know, I do

1286
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 7: think for a lot of us men like we want

1287
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 7: that approval from our fathers. And uh, I've had a

1288
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 7: lot more fatherly support than Pantosia has had, but I've

1289
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 7: had sort of my own issues in terms of wanting

1290
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 7: certain things like that. But if you don't know, you know,

1291
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 7: he said, you know his mom raised his siblings, and

1292
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 7: he said into the camera, you know you proud of

1293
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 7: me now, Dad, you know that I'm a world champion.

1294
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 1: Proud of me now? I mean that was just riveting

1295
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 1: in the best and worst of ways.

1296
01:01:55,600 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 8: Yeah, man, No, absolutely gut wrenching into hear a guy.

1297
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 8: I mean, but look, you know, honestly, John, like you know,

1298
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 8: people ask me about you like the champions and all,

1299
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 8: you know, like mentality, you need that adversity. I've never

1300
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 8: really seen a guy get there that was coddled and

1301
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 8: given everything, you know what I mean, you need that

1302
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 8: to drive you sometimes, and that to me is a

1303
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 8: common denominator with a lot of these guys that they

1304
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 8: did not have the easiest of childhoods. Yeah, and I

1305
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 8: try to explain this to my guys because sometimes, you know,

1306
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 8: you know, you think you think you're helping somebody, you're not.

1307
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:36,640
Speaker 4: You're not helping them. You're actually enabling them, and you're

1308
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 4: ruining them.

1309
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 8: You know, they need to suffer, they need to know

1310
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:42,480
Speaker 8: what that's like to get to the next level, and

1311
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 8: then then they're ready to roll.

1312
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 1: Man.

1313
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:47,440
Speaker 8: And I think even heard it with Pantosia. I mean,

1314
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:50,480
Speaker 8: you know, and you know it's crazy. And you want

1315
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 8: people with a good father in your life, you know

1316
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 8: what I mean, that's what you want. But sometimes you know,

1317
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 8: like again, helping too much is not a good thing.

1318
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 7: You know, you want doctor Florian. He listens to the

1319
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 7: fucking Anakin Florian podcast. You know, my dad has no

1320
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 7: idea what the Anakin Florid podcast is. His name's on

1321
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 7: my dad's names on the show. He couldn't possibly care less.

1322
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 4: Okay, John, this is your moment, look into the count.

1323
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:22,920
Speaker 1: Oh that's good.

1324
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:25,479
Speaker 4: That is crazy doing.

1325
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 1: Come on, dad, I forget.

1326
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 7: There's one line in the movie I think Adam Sandlers

1327
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 7: said it, like you're mad at your dad Maddad anyway,

1328
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 7: we ought to move on.

1329
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 1: We got to move on.

1330
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 7: I promised this fan base and our listenership that we

1331
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 7: would spend a good three hundred seconds five minutes on

1332
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:46,440
Speaker 7: Dan Hooker versus Jalen t I think there's enough to

1333
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:50,240
Speaker 7: get into. I just have heaps of praise for Dan Hooker.

1334
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 7: I hope that his fight with Dustin Pourier eventually goes

1335
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 7: into the Hall of Fame, and that's sort of the

1336
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 7: conduit through which a guy like that gets in. Because

1337
01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:00,920
Speaker 7: I just have so much appreciation for the different layers

1338
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 7: and phases of Dan Hooker's career, moving to the US,

1339
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 7: back to New Zealand in twenty seventeen, seeking out greater

1340
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 7: training at City Kickboxing. And this is a real difficult

1341
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:14,080
Speaker 7: challenge against Jalen Turner. Some people suggest he didn't pass

1342
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 7: this challenge, and we'll get into all of that ray,

1343
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 7: but I just have so much respect for Dan Hooker

1344
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 7: fighting with a broken arm and everything else.

1345
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 8: Now, listen, what could you say, Look, Kenny is very

1346
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:30,160
Speaker 8: animated with his breakdowns. I'm pretty simple. I mean, he

1347
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:32,920
Speaker 8: was just tougher than him period. He took what he

1348
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 8: had to offer, and I like Jalen turn is a

1349
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 8: great guy. He really is a nice kid man. But

1350
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 8: he took what he had to offer. He got kicked

1351
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 8: in the head, he got bat at that, and Jalen

1352
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 8: couldn't take what he had to offer. It just came

1353
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 8: to me, it just came down the toughness and experience.

1354
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 8: I think Jalen turn is still a great talent. He's

1355
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 8: going to grow from his last two fights. I think

1356
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 8: this kid's going to get better and better with his frame.

1357
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:59,160
Speaker 8: There's still no stopping him. That would be my recommendation

1358
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:02,440
Speaker 8: to him. This means nothing in the next ten fights.

1359
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 8: This is gonna make you better. I really believe that.

1360
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 8: But on that night, that's the way I that's the

1361
01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 8: way I see it. Yeah, guy just he could take

1362
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 8: what he could take the best of Jalen Turner, and

1363
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:14,800
Speaker 8: Jalen Turner couldn't take the best of Dan Hooker, and that,

1364
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 8: to me, is the difference in the fight.

1365
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 1: I think.

1366
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 5: I think you're spot on, absolutely, man. I thought Turner

1367
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 5: Hooker was an amazing fight. At started off technical, then

1368
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 5: it became brutal, and it finished as a back and

1369
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 5: forth war. And you know, we saw technique, strategy and

1370
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 5: brutality and heart. I thought it was the full MMA experience.

1371
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 5: I thought Hooker had a better poker face than Jalen

1372
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 5: Turner did, and that very important. Yeah, it really is,

1373
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 5: like when he was getting hit with big, big shots,

1374
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:46,439
Speaker 5: he'd kind of circle away and kind of reset. When

1375
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 5: Jalen was getting hit with those same shots, you could

1376
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 5: see like he would bow down and turn away and

1377
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:54,160
Speaker 5: kind of grimace and do those certain things that you

1378
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 5: do early on in your career that you wouldn't do

1379
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 5: later on.

1380
01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:57,800
Speaker 1: I mean Dan Hooker.

1381
01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 5: How many wars has Dan Hooker, So that level of experience,

1382
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:05,640
Speaker 5: that level of toughness, as Ray said, really was the

1383
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 5: difference here. And I think it was something that I

1384
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 5: overlooked watching this fight. I thought Turner's technique would be

1385
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:13,880
Speaker 5: the difference. And I thought the fact that he was

1386
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 5: even taller than Dan Hooker would throw off Dan Hooker

1387
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 5: because that gives you an advantage that he has.

1388
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 1: So I was wrong.

1389
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 5: I thought Hooker did enough to win. I thought it

1390
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 5: was an amazing fight. It's great to see good guys

1391
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 5: like Dan Hooker get a win over another tough guy

1392
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:32,760
Speaker 5: like Jaylen Turner. But congratulations again to both men on

1393
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:35,760
Speaker 5: a great fight. It was awesome, awesome to see this

1394
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 5: one one.

1395
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 4: I loved the thing with the Poka face.

1396
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 8: It means a lot and uh I see it seemed

1397
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 8: and I had Pantosia winning that fight. But Poka face

1398
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 8: boyse see Moreno, I think was selling it way better.

1399
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 8: He was popping the gym. Yeah, he never looked like

1400
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 8: he was. He looked like he was having the better

1401
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 8: time the other guy. Even though he was getting off

1402
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:58,280
Speaker 8: it looked labored. He looked off bounds a couple of times,

1403
01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:00,920
Speaker 8: but he was landing and he did do enough, I

1404
01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 8: believe to get that win. Going back to the turn

1405
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 8: of hook a fight, I mean, great fight again, hats

1406
01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:07,120
Speaker 8: off to both guys.

1407
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:09,920
Speaker 4: Is not a technically, you know, not a loser.

1408
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 8: But scoring that fight, I thought it was an easy

1409
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:15,040
Speaker 8: score twenty nine to twenty eight. I would love to

1410
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 8: hear Adelaide's burg take on how she thought Jalen Turner

1411
01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:20,439
Speaker 8: won two of those rounds.

1412
01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:21,880
Speaker 4: I would just love to hear it.

1413
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 8: I really would, because I don't I think that was

1414
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 8: an easy fight to score, just based on damaging.

1415
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 4: He was almost finished twice.

1416
01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:33,160
Speaker 1: I would argue that round three ten to nine.

1417
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 7: Turner scorecard from Adelaide Bird is like the worst singular

1418
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:39,200
Speaker 7: round score cards of the year.

1419
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:43,720
Speaker 8: She can't tell you trust me, you can't get the

1420
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 8: Was she a boxing judge, she's an old time boxing judge.

1421
01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:50,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you know you know of is guys.

1422
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 8: Look when you get people that are doing their job

1423
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:55,960
Speaker 8: and they're getting praised for it twenty years ago, right

1424
01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:58,520
Speaker 8: with the boxing and probably was a great boxing judge.

1425
01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:01,800
Speaker 8: I don't even know. I didn't follow you carry him

1426
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 8: baggage into the MMA world. You really are, You just are,

1427
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 8: And I think that's what you saw that night for

1428
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:11,000
Speaker 8: whatever reason. Yeah, I just thought it was an easy

1429
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:12,920
Speaker 8: fight to score. But it was a great fight, you

1430
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 8: know what I mean, And it was I think the

1431
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 8: right guy won, so that was good.

1432
01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:18,800
Speaker 1: I just hope you guys, if I lose my fastball,

1433
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:20,760
Speaker 1: like tell me to get out of the game. I'm

1434
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:22,760
Speaker 1: sure somebody's going to show me the door. Well before

1435
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 1: that time.

1436
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:25,760
Speaker 7: But like I always say, like I am not going

1437
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:29,599
Speaker 7: to be there like a fucking prune on TV seventy

1438
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:31,479
Speaker 7: years old, you know, dateline Las Vegas.

1439
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 1: I'm just not going to do It's just not going

1440
01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:33,600
Speaker 1: to do it.

1441
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:34,880
Speaker 4: Wait, are you attacking me?

1442
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:37,000
Speaker 8: Right now, because I think I know.

1443
01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 1: Your skin looks better than mine. He's right here, right.

1444
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 4: I thought that was awkward. I was like, holy shit.

1445
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:48,559
Speaker 7: So Dan Hooker Kenny right, Kenny three and three as

1446
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:52,640
Speaker 7: a UFC featherweight before he moved up in twenty seventeen,

1447
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:55,040
Speaker 7: and that coincided with his move back to New Zealand.

1448
01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:57,920
Speaker 7: How many lightweight wins you think Dan Hooker has Ken

1449
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:01,760
Speaker 7: Flow right, lost to Dustin Poor, lost to Edson Barboza,

1450
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 7: lost to Michael Chandler, lost to Islama kas Chev. He

1451
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 7: did lose to Arnold Allen, Right, but you want to

1452
01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 7: hear some of the fucking guys he's beat. He's got

1453
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:14,360
Speaker 7: ten times as many one hundred and fifty five pound

1454
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:15,479
Speaker 7: wins as Connor McGregor.

1455
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:17,040
Speaker 1: Right, Wow, And no.

1456
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:20,400
Speaker 7: One's going to confuse him as an all time great

1457
01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:22,799
Speaker 7: with Connor McGregor. Right, But how about the ten lightweight

1458
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:26,679
Speaker 7: wins for Dan fucking Hooker, Jalen Turner, Claudio Pues, Nasarat

1459
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:29,639
Speaker 7: Hack Press, Paul Felder ally went to James Vick, Gilbert

1460
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:32,600
Speaker 7: fucking Burns, Jim Miller, Mark Sha, Casey, Ross Pearson. You know,

1461
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:35,599
Speaker 7: it's a goddamn career for Dan Hooker and hopefully that's

1462
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:37,720
Speaker 7: enough love for the Dan Hooker fan base today. And

1463
01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:40,760
Speaker 7: I do think that this is going to get him

1464
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 7: another big lightweight fight, and I don't think it well,

1465
01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:45,800
Speaker 7: it's definitely not gonna be Sidney broke his arm. But yeah,

1466
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 7: big stuff for Dan Hooker, and all of a sudden,

1467
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:50,280
Speaker 7: Jalen Turner, who was on the cusp of contention, you know,

1468
01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:52,040
Speaker 7: miss his weight here at one hundred and fifty eight

1469
01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 7: pounds and has lost two in a row.

1470
01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 1: You know.

1471
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:59,880
Speaker 7: Oh, one more thing on Dan Hooker. His podcast pubbed

1472
01:09:59,880 --> 01:10:03,120
Speaker 7: time with Oscar Willis is outstanding. I love the dynamic

1473
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 7: between those two.

1474
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:04,760
Speaker 1: All right.

1475
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:08,320
Speaker 7: I wanted to ask you about all Chandre Pantosia and

1476
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 7: Brandon Moreno, and then we're going to give Robbie Lawler

1477
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:13,920
Speaker 7: all the shine that he deserves. Your thoughts on that

1478
01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:18,000
Speaker 7: Flyway Championship fight and ultimately it going to the Brazilian

1479
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 7: as a first time champ.

1480
01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, look, great fight back and forth.

1481
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:27,240
Speaker 8: Uh, you know, Pantosia came out like a frickin' fire

1482
01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 8: cracker and he was able to you know, last the

1483
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 8: remainder of the rounds because I thought he could have

1484
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:35,120
Speaker 8: blown his load, but those little guys could keep going.

1485
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:37,439
Speaker 4: I thought he did a great job with the control time.

1486
01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:39,840
Speaker 8: I think that's the difference in the fight is that,

1487
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:43,800
Speaker 8: you know, it was the the takedowns and some of

1488
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:47,479
Speaker 8: the you know, we had a lot of submission attempt ship.

1489
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:49,920
Speaker 4: He definitely won the fight for sure, but it was

1490
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:52,599
Speaker 4: a really really close fight.

1491
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:53,600
Speaker 1: I think it was.

1492
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 4: It was a very competitive fight.

1493
01:10:57,040 --> 01:10:58,000
Speaker 1: Would you move on?

1494
01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:03,840
Speaker 7: Brandon Moreno has been in consecutive UFC Flyweight Championship fights,

1495
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:07,240
Speaker 7: one of those of the interim variety against cay Cota, France. Right,

1496
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:12,880
Speaker 7: but Brandon Royval might be the most crowd pleaser on

1497
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:16,560
Speaker 7: the roster, right, Like Kenny sort of talked me into this,

1498
01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 7: and I love Royball and I think Pantosia Royval is

1499
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 7: the fight to make right now, and Moreno is a

1500
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:23,439
Speaker 7: fight away potentially.

1501
01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 1: What do you feel about all that?

1502
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 8: Well, I think I think Royvell is a really tough

1503
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:31,800
Speaker 8: fight for Pantosia. I think that's a that's a great fight.

1504
01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:35,680
Speaker 8: He could potentially be the next champ, unless you know,

1505
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:38,519
Speaker 8: we go with the theory that becoming a champion you

1506
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 8: get like, you know, automatically, like ten to twenty percent better,

1507
01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:45,439
Speaker 8: which which hopefully works out for Pantosia because he's already

1508
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:49,080
Speaker 8: he's always been technically really really good, you know. But

1509
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:51,880
Speaker 8: now after listening to him, John, you know some you

1510
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:54,400
Speaker 8: know that stuff as much as it drives you, you know,

1511
01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 8: hornshit too. Who knows how how much that seeps back

1512
01:11:57,560 --> 01:12:00,240
Speaker 8: in every so often when it shouldn't seep in, and

1513
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:01,880
Speaker 8: it sabotages you know.

1514
01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:03,840
Speaker 4: So Mike Heart goes out to that guy.

1515
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:06,080
Speaker 8: I hope he holds a title for a couple of

1516
01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:08,400
Speaker 8: fights at least, and you know, he uses that as

1517
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:13,960
Speaker 8: motivation to keep improving. But Royvell is definitely no joke,

1518
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:17,080
Speaker 8: and he's that's a tough fight for anybody.

1519
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 7: Robbie Lawler goes out with about as many style points

1520
01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:23,560
Speaker 7: as you could possibly go out. He's inducted into the

1521
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:27,320
Speaker 7: UFC Hall of Fame on Thursday night. And our UFC

1522
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:29,160
Speaker 7: Hall of Fame is a little bit different, right, You

1523
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:31,400
Speaker 7: have a fight wing that is used as the conduit

1524
01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:33,679
Speaker 7: here to get Robbie Lawler into the Hall of Fame.

1525
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:37,920
Speaker 7: But I think he understands the value of his contributions

1526
01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:40,000
Speaker 7: to this sport. He's a UFC Hall of Famer, and

1527
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:42,120
Speaker 7: then he needs just thirty eight seconds rate to get

1528
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:45,400
Speaker 7: Nico Price out of there. I mean, all the handicappers

1529
01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:47,720
Speaker 7: I talked to absolutely love that plus money next to

1530
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:50,280
Speaker 7: his name. I think one of our guys even hit

1531
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:53,320
Speaker 7: it at plus five twenty five to have Robbie Lawler

1532
01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:57,559
Speaker 7: by knockout. But just an incredible, incredible moment in that arena,

1533
01:12:57,680 --> 01:13:00,479
Speaker 7: something I'll never forget. He seems like a Ray Longo

1534
01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:01,759
Speaker 7: type of guy that Robbi.

1535
01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:03,320
Speaker 4: Lawler what auted doubt.

1536
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:08,599
Speaker 8: First off, I'm so happy that a retirement fight finally

1537
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:11,120
Speaker 8: went the way I think it should always go. And

1538
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:14,799
Speaker 8: that's that's what we saw. We saw perfection in everything,

1539
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:19,960
Speaker 8: the presentation with his the video, the knockout, Robbie Lola,

1540
01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:22,760
Speaker 8: you know, a stoic figure breaking down, and you know,

1541
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:25,360
Speaker 8: I could tell you. All I can tell you is

1542
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:29,840
Speaker 8: that he's as nice of a guy that you see

1543
01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:32,439
Speaker 8: on TV in person. I think there's nobody that's going

1544
01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:35,160
Speaker 8: to disagree with that. John Right, That's that's a that's

1545
01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:37,840
Speaker 8: a fact. But when we did season six of the show,

1546
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:42,400
Speaker 8: uh was you know, obviously use against Sarah. Uh. We

1547
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:45,200
Speaker 8: were all in the same condo complex, so I'd hang

1548
01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 8: out in the pool every day and we bullshit and

1549
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:50,240
Speaker 8: he was back then when tensions were high, you know,

1550
01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:54,719
Speaker 8: between like Sarah and Used. There was absolutely no love lost.

1551
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:56,600
Speaker 8: That guy was a stand up guy. We'd have some

1552
01:13:56,720 --> 01:14:00,880
Speaker 8: great conversations. He's into physical fitness. He always loves working out.

1553
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:03,080
Speaker 8: He's always in shape. I think he's going to be

1554
01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 8: a great coach. Like what he alluded to, he will

1555
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:08,240
Speaker 8: give back to the sport and what else do you

1556
01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:10,720
Speaker 8: want from a guy? I think the guy what he's

1557
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:13,519
Speaker 8: done and when he resurrected his career back in the UFC.

1558
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:16,840
Speaker 8: In the UFC leaves, the UFC comes back in, he

1559
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:20,920
Speaker 8: goes on a run from hell against high the highest

1560
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:22,120
Speaker 8: quality of opponents.

1561
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 4: There's nothing to be said. This is a story book

1562
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:28,400
Speaker 4: ending and I'm just happy it ended the way it did.

1563
01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:33,120
Speaker 4: I thought it was absolutely fantastic. Does bring a tearty

1564
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:35,320
Speaker 4: or eye and even seeing him well up a little

1565
01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:39,360
Speaker 4: bit is was crazy. So pats off to Robbie Lawler.

1566
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:42,880
Speaker 4: Just just a great human being, great guy. And I

1567
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:45,839
Speaker 4: don't think there's one person that would tell you differently

1568
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:46,120
Speaker 4: than that.

1569
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:51,719
Speaker 5: Kenny well Well said, man, you know, Robbie Lawler would

1570
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:53,800
Speaker 5: come out to the last of the Mohicans song. You know.

1571
01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:56,880
Speaker 5: I think it's called Promontory, and it's one of the

1572
01:14:56,960 --> 01:15:01,080
Speaker 5: few walkout songs. I get chills every single time I

1573
01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:04,400
Speaker 5: hear it and I see Robbie Lawler, that absolute warrior walk.

1574
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:04,680
Speaker 1: Off to it.

1575
01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:08,080
Speaker 5: It's a war song, and many say that they're going

1576
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:09,720
Speaker 5: to go out and they're going to go to war

1577
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 5: when they go out to fight. Robbie Lawler actually means it.

1578
01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:16,200
Speaker 5: And when Robbie Lawler went to punch you, he was

1579
01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:18,720
Speaker 5: trying to not beat you or knock you out. He

1580
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:21,160
Speaker 5: was trying to break you into pieces. He was trying

1581
01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:24,240
Speaker 5: to erase you from existence. That was the way that

1582
01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:26,960
Speaker 5: he fought. And when you think about the fact that

1583
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:33,040
Speaker 5: his career spans well over two decades, how many evolutions

1584
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:36,080
Speaker 5: of mixed martial arts, is that he was able to

1585
01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:43,960
Speaker 5: retain that level of killer instinct, aggression, knockout power from

1586
01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:46,559
Speaker 5: the time he was nineteen years old that he made

1587
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:47,600
Speaker 5: his rookie.

1588
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:49,479
Speaker 1: Debut, right he made his debut in the UFC at.

1589
01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:53,920
Speaker 5: Nineteen years old knocking out grown ass men, to the

1590
01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:58,240
Speaker 5: time that he knocked his opponent out on Saturday night.

1591
01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:01,720
Speaker 5: And when you actually think about that that he was

1592
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:06,679
Speaker 5: able to stay relevant and dangerous for that long. It's

1593
01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:09,759
Speaker 5: mind bending. It's mind bending.

1594
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:11,600
Speaker 1: And if a movie was.

1595
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:15,320
Speaker 5: Written about Robbie Lawler, okay, you wouldn't be able to

1596
01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:16,639
Speaker 5: do his career justice.

1597
01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:18,519
Speaker 1: That's that's what this guy has done.

1598
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:20,799
Speaker 5: If you look up mixed martial arts in the dictionary,

1599
01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:23,560
Speaker 5: you would probably see Robbie Lawler's face, and if you

1600
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:25,840
Speaker 5: saw his first fight all the way into now, you

1601
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:29,479
Speaker 5: could actually get probably a complete picture of what MMA

1602
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:33,200
Speaker 5: looked like and how it evolved. So, you know, salute

1603
01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:37,080
Speaker 5: Robbie Lawler, Congratulations, thank you for all the amazing memories.

1604
01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:40,439
Speaker 5: But you know, when you really put into perspective of

1605
01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 5: what he did when he first came into the game

1606
01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:44,800
Speaker 5: to where he is now, that's about as good as

1607
01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:48,439
Speaker 5: it gets. If anybody deserves a Cinderella ending, it's Bobby Lowler.

1608
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:51,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's hey, John, remind me never to follow this

1609
01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:54,759
Speaker 8: guy's It's.

1610
01:16:54,680 --> 01:17:01,840
Speaker 4: Like the comedy thing that one and everything nail nail

1611
01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:04,280
Speaker 4: on the head, No, I think, but he's a one

1612
01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:05,280
Speaker 4: to one man, and.

1613
01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:08,080
Speaker 8: You watched a mad hat or a wild man at

1614
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 8: nineteen really developed into a technically beautiful fight.

1615
01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:13,720
Speaker 4: Of which isn't he sad to do?

1616
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:14,400
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

1617
01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:17,200
Speaker 5: It Like you said, he did it in a time

1618
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:21,240
Speaker 5: when the wealth deweight division was insane. He reinvented himself.

1619
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:25,439
Speaker 5: He reconstructed himself. You know, Robbie, Robbie was on you know,

1620
01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:26,880
Speaker 5: he was on the downs for a little bit. He

1621
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:29,360
Speaker 5: was out in Strike force, he was losing the UFC.

1622
01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:31,640
Speaker 5: He was out of the UFC. Then they brought him in.

1623
01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:33,719
Speaker 5: You're like, you know, we're gonna see the same story.

1624
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:35,840
Speaker 5: He comes in, he looks like the same guy. He

1625
01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:38,759
Speaker 5: was not the same guy. He retained that same killer

1626
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:42,600
Speaker 5: instinct and knockout power, but he was better everywhere. And

1627
01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:45,519
Speaker 5: then he went on to win the world championship and

1628
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:48,880
Speaker 5: the wealthyweight division, which was absolutely insane at the time.

1629
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:52,360
Speaker 5: So I'm blown away by everything that this guy has a.

1630
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:55,120
Speaker 4: Cheeped And when he came back into the UFC, how

1631
01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:57,280
Speaker 4: many guys thought he was going to do that?

1632
01:17:57,479 --> 01:18:00,240
Speaker 8: That's the other righting I did. That's a big You're

1633
01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:04,519
Speaker 8: stacked he was going to do that, and he did it.

1634
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:10,120
Speaker 8: So again, what'd you study in college? English and English.

1635
01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:12,560
Speaker 1: Political science and communications?

1636
01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:15,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I got to go back to schools.

1637
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:18,080
Speaker 1: Go back to school.

1638
01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:20,919
Speaker 8: Yeah, what course would what course would you say, journalists,

1639
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:23,160
Speaker 8: what should take created speaking?

1640
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:28,240
Speaker 4: Hey dude, I can't what the hell am I doing here? Right?

1641
01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:30,479
Speaker 1: I mean, age is just a number. Why not go

1642
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:32,760
Speaker 1: advance your education in your sixties? Right?

1643
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:33,320
Speaker 8: Oh?

1644
01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:35,559
Speaker 4: I go right back in the corrupt all those young

1645
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:36,920
Speaker 4: little beasts.

1646
01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:42,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, it would be.

1647
01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:46,679
Speaker 7: Kenny mentioned sort of the facial progression of Robbie Lawler

1648
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:49,640
Speaker 7: tell in the course of his career, and not to

1649
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:52,919
Speaker 7: our live production teams, that candy to everybody else forgetting

1650
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:56,479
Speaker 7: that into the show and into the arena. Because when

1651
01:18:56,560 --> 01:18:59,040
Speaker 7: he saw himself with like a full head of hair,

1652
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:02,400
Speaker 7: you and me idiately see Robbie Lawler well up, and

1653
01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:05,519
Speaker 7: it was just a real special moment. Now, most people

1654
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:08,120
Speaker 7: of you, if you are watching on the DraftKings Network

1655
01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:09,640
Speaker 7: and you see this image.

1656
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:12,040
Speaker 1: Of Robbie Lawler ken full look up, motherfucker. So swear this.

1657
01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:14,760
Speaker 7: So all you need to do is see this no

1658
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:19,160
Speaker 7: to know that this is an interview with Ron Kruh, Right,

1659
01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:22,760
Speaker 7: and Robbie Lawler is asked essentially, you know what he

1660
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:25,920
Speaker 7: would maybe take from Connor McGregor, So I should have

1661
01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 7: put his soul drop in the bank for Cody today.

1662
01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:32,360
Speaker 7: And I promise you here here two four. Uh not

1663
01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:35,920
Speaker 7: unlike our betchco heeya drop, we will absolutely have no no.

1664
01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:37,599
Speaker 7: But Cody, I know you're gonna do it in post

1665
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:39,519
Speaker 7: I don't want fucking post You know how I feel

1666
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:41,439
Speaker 7: about falling off chairs and fucking post production.

1667
01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 1: This is a lot. I think I have it all

1668
01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:43,439
Speaker 1: qu'ed up.

1669
01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:45,080
Speaker 8: So I wasn't taking his neck?

1670
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:48,679
Speaker 1: What are you going to take his soul?

1671
01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:49,439
Speaker 4: That?

1672
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:52,040
Speaker 1: I wasn't taking his neck?

1673
01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:52,240
Speaker 8: Oh?

1674
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:54,479
Speaker 1: What were you going to take his soul? Right?

1675
01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:57,760
Speaker 7: And look the look that goes along with it is

1676
01:19:57,880 --> 01:20:00,960
Speaker 7: just like he means it. He means I mean, he

1677
01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:03,760
Speaker 7: really does. I want to go for wide and bring

1678
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:06,479
Speaker 7: Brian Petrie into the conversation. And of course, Cody, my man,

1679
01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:08,880
Speaker 7: if you do want to make that his soul louder

1680
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:11,599
Speaker 7: in post production, that is well within your right as

1681
01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:14,960
Speaker 7: the executive producer of the show. But Brian Petrie on

1682
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:18,920
Speaker 7: social media a Brian Petrie Mma host. Yeah we're talking

1683
01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:21,960
Speaker 7: big Bob Lawler And yeah, all right?

1684
01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:22,840
Speaker 8: Was that so.

1685
01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:28,759
Speaker 7: Many people revered this guy. It's not just his fellow fighters,

1686
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:30,360
Speaker 7: right in terms of the fan base. I mean one

1687
01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:33,400
Speaker 7: of our best listeners, Bob lav Alita has been just

1688
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:36,080
Speaker 7: talking for years. This is like most people's favorite fighter.

1689
01:20:36,120 --> 01:20:38,080
Speaker 7: I think that I talked to and I know you

1690
01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:39,280
Speaker 7: hold him in high regard as well.

1691
01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:42,200
Speaker 3: Be Peple. Yeah, yeah, I'm an emotional guy, but I

1692
01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:44,519
Speaker 3: don't cry. Right, I'm out a cry or never have

1693
01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:48,120
Speaker 3: been watching Robbie well up and then seeing the video

1694
01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:52,439
Speaker 3: package you guys did, realizing I was watching ninety five

1695
01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:55,759
Speaker 3: percent of those Live with you know as his career,

1696
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:57,880
Speaker 3: and I was like wow, and like Kenny said, this

1697
01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:00,599
Speaker 3: guy's one of one. You know what I mean when

1698
01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:03,719
Speaker 3: when outside the UFC had success with eighty five Bounce,

1699
01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:06,799
Speaker 3: but he was always exciting, was always funny. I'm glad

1700
01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:09,840
Speaker 3: you played the take his soul clip. I mean, he

1701
01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:12,360
Speaker 3: just doesn't get better. I mean I played him. I

1702
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:15,120
Speaker 3: didn't have him by knockout, but a nice little win

1703
01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:18,080
Speaker 3: there for me. But man, Robbie Lawler is just I mean,

1704
01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:20,160
Speaker 3: this is a guy. I mean I remember seeing him.

1705
01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:22,360
Speaker 3: He came my raider obviously when he entered the UC

1706
01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:25,400
Speaker 3: and he knocked out Tiki Goosen. Who Yeah, I don't

1707
01:21:25,439 --> 01:21:27,320
Speaker 3: think I know he's a great manager nowadays. I don't

1708
01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:29,280
Speaker 3: know if he's fully waking up yet. Because that was

1709
01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:34,519
Speaker 3: something else. That dude is an animal and so so

1710
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:38,680
Speaker 3: happy for Robbie. Hopefully, hopefully this is it. There's no

1711
01:21:39,439 --> 01:21:40,759
Speaker 3: bare knuckle in the future.

1712
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:41,599
Speaker 1: Oh no, he's done.

1713
01:21:41,960 --> 01:21:44,280
Speaker 7: Okay, good, I feel pretty good about that. Hey, Ray,

1714
01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:47,240
Speaker 7: do you have a few more minutes or do you

1715
01:21:47,320 --> 01:21:47,680
Speaker 7: have to go?

1716
01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:49,439
Speaker 1: Because you know so.

1717
01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:54,439
Speaker 7: Nauseim Sadakov is fighting this weekend against Terence McKinney, and

1718
01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:55,960
Speaker 7: that means Ray Longo is going to be at the

1719
01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:58,680
Speaker 7: UFC Apex. So if you guys want pictures, if you

1720
01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:01,599
Speaker 7: want autographs, Ray long loves that stuff. If you see

1721
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:05,160
Speaker 7: him anywhere in Las Vegas, he loves loves pictures.

1722
01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:09,360
Speaker 1: When are heading out there, Redmond, I'll hit.

1723
01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:12,799
Speaker 4: That Wednesday, all right, very excited for this weekend.

1724
01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:16,360
Speaker 7: Okay, do you have anything else on the goddamn fight

1725
01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:18,280
Speaker 7: for us? I know how tight lift you are during

1726
01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:21,439
Speaker 7: fight week? Your guy's favorite the betting line.

1727
01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:23,760
Speaker 4: No, what is the betting line on that?

1728
01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:25,800
Speaker 1: You got? I mean your chalk here? You better hold

1729
01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:26,799
Speaker 1: serve as the favorite.

1730
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:27,000
Speaker 2: Ray.

1731
01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:30,000
Speaker 1: We do give Ray bonuses on this show. If you

1732
01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:30,320
Speaker 1: don't know.

1733
01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:32,599
Speaker 7: When his guys win, he gets one hundred dollars from

1734
01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:35,400
Speaker 7: Anakin Flora LLC. For every win, he's minus one fifty

1735
01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:42,280
Speaker 7: so short price. Can you tell us anything?

1736
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:44,240
Speaker 4: Super talented guy.

1737
01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:47,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I get a little revenge on Terrence

1738
01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:50,360
Speaker 1: McKinney for Dustin you guy from Bowlings and seven seconds.

1739
01:22:55,960 --> 01:23:00,120
Speaker 4: He's got it. This is a different cat. So had

1740
01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:03,040
Speaker 4: a great training camp. We had some really good looks

1741
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:03,679
Speaker 4: for this fight.

1742
01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:07,439
Speaker 8: He's just a super intelligent kid with a great fight

1743
01:23:07,560 --> 01:23:11,080
Speaker 8: IQ and I think you'll see that on Saturday night and.

1744
01:23:11,160 --> 01:23:13,759
Speaker 1: Matt revol will be there alongside you in the corner.

1745
01:23:14,200 --> 01:23:14,639
Speaker 1: Is that right?

1746
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:17,320
Speaker 4: For Vola? For Vold?

1747
01:23:17,320 --> 01:23:20,360
Speaker 8: This corner with me, we keeping it the way. It's

1748
01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:24,960
Speaker 8: been going a very superstitious with the corners. So we

1749
01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:26,920
Speaker 8: didn't get our third guy yet, but I'm sure it's

1750
01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:30,479
Speaker 8: al Joe. So hopefully we got a great corner and

1751
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:33,000
Speaker 8: the kid is going to do what he's been put

1752
01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:33,840
Speaker 8: on this earth to do.

1753
01:23:35,439 --> 01:23:38,640
Speaker 7: Buddy, we'll safe travels. We'll hopefully recap a win with

1754
01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:40,240
Speaker 7: you on Monday. It's at ray Longo.

1755
01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:50,000
Speaker 1: M M huh what are you saying? You couldn't say

1756
01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:55,880
Speaker 1: what was going on at this point. I was gonna

1757
01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:58,479
Speaker 1: say at ray Longo m m a on Twitter.

1758
01:23:58,920 --> 01:24:00,960
Speaker 7: Let him know how much you enjoy his segment on

1759
01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:03,639
Speaker 7: the anikin Floran podcast and if you like the show

1760
01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:07,439
Speaker 7: and subscribe to the DraftKings YouTube channel, it helps Ray.

1761
01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:09,680
Speaker 7: It helps line his pockets, and anything he can do

1762
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:12,000
Speaker 7: to line his pockets without fucking holding pads right now

1763
01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:12,519
Speaker 7: is a good thing.

1764
01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:15,960
Speaker 1: So like the show, We'll talk to you man, facts.

1765
01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:22,360
Speaker 4: Us, Good luck, Ryan, weekend, guys have fun. Thank you

1766
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:22,960
Speaker 4: very much.

1767
01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:24,559
Speaker 1: Thank you're the best.

1768
01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:27,639
Speaker 7: The Ray Longo minute every week here on the Anik

1769
01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:30,600
Speaker 7: and Floran podcast. I was on another podcast recently and

1770
01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:32,960
Speaker 7: they asked me, like word association with Ken Flow and

1771
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:36,120
Speaker 7: long Goo and uh. When they asked me about Longo,

1772
01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:36,920
Speaker 7: I just said love.

1773
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:37,240
Speaker 1: You know.

1774
01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:38,920
Speaker 7: It was like, I do have so much love for

1775
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:41,080
Speaker 7: that man, but on this show, man, you know, sometimes

1776
01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:43,240
Speaker 7: he gets on my fucking last Nard and I said

1777
01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:45,760
Speaker 7: about ken Fall, I said too nice, which probably wasn't

1778
01:24:45,840 --> 01:24:51,360
Speaker 7: too nice of me, Big gun Brian Petree. So, Ken

1779
01:24:51,439 --> 01:24:52,960
Speaker 7: Fall and I did a live episode of the Antik

1780
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:55,000
Speaker 7: and Flooring podcast and a lot of our listeners were

1781
01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:56,880
Speaker 7: there and they love you.

1782
01:24:57,120 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 3: So that's awesome. Yeah, I real quick antidote, your boy

1783
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:03,880
Speaker 3: bought some new clothes. I'm gonna see John in Nashville.

1784
01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:06,599
Speaker 3: You know, we're in NATS Vegas. We gotta look good.

1785
01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:09,840
Speaker 3: I bought a shirt that looked very similar to what

1786
01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:13,200
Speaker 3: Kenny wore on the live show, right, and I'm returning it.

1787
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:17,240
Speaker 3: Not sad, but because it looks so fucking good on

1788
01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:20,439
Speaker 3: Ken Flow. I can't pull it off. So that's going back.

1789
01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:21,720
Speaker 3: That's going back the.

1790
01:25:23,240 --> 01:25:23,640
Speaker 1: Magnum p.

1791
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:25,240
Speaker 3: I look. I was like, this is I look at

1792
01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:26,599
Speaker 3: my wife was like, this is kind of a risk,

1793
01:25:26,680 --> 01:25:29,200
Speaker 3: but we should do it, right. Yeah, it looks great. Yeah,

1794
01:25:29,320 --> 01:25:30,920
Speaker 3: Kenny blew that for me. Man, thanks time.

1795
01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:34,160
Speaker 1: All right, So a few other things.

1796
01:25:34,160 --> 01:25:35,960
Speaker 7: I want to get twenty UFC two ninety and then

1797
01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:37,960
Speaker 7: we'll spin it forward to the fight night this weekend.

1798
01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:42,080
Speaker 7: So Robbie Lawler, if he had been forthcoming verbally throughout

1799
01:25:42,160 --> 01:25:44,200
Speaker 7: his career, you would have had a lot more gold

1800
01:25:44,400 --> 01:25:47,840
Speaker 7: like his soul. He's supremely intelligent. He just isn't all

1801
01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:50,479
Speaker 7: that forthcoming. And he was in our Fighter meeting and

1802
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:52,840
Speaker 7: one thing that he said in our Fighter Meeting that

1803
01:25:52,960 --> 01:25:55,479
Speaker 7: he then said on stage, and by the way, he

1804
01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:58,080
Speaker 7: wasn't necessarily always going to be there. I think as

1805
01:25:58,200 --> 01:26:00,200
Speaker 7: the week went on and it crystallized for him him

1806
01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:02,720
Speaker 7: how important this was. It wasn't just your fight from

1807
01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:04,920
Speaker 7: eight years ago going in This is like Robbie Loaler

1808
01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:06,639
Speaker 7: going into the Hall of Fame. But he said, going

1809
01:26:06,720 --> 01:26:08,800
Speaker 7: into that second Rory McDonald fight, he had already beaten

1810
01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:11,200
Speaker 7: him once, but he was fighting for respect that night.

1811
01:26:11,439 --> 01:26:14,080
Speaker 7: He just was not going to be denied that night.

1812
01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:17,160
Speaker 7: And if that lip split had gone like up to

1813
01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:21,920
Speaker 7: through his cheek to like his orbital floor, he wasn't

1814
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:24,000
Speaker 7: going to let the doctor stop the fight that night.

1815
01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:25,560
Speaker 7: He just was not going to be denied. And I

1816
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:27,439
Speaker 7: thought that was a very powerful quote that he then

1817
01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:29,759
Speaker 7: used during his Hall of Fame induction ceremony.

1818
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:31,320
Speaker 1: So I just want to get that out there now.

1819
01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:33,720
Speaker 7: I want to get your thoughts if I could, on

1820
01:26:33,800 --> 01:26:36,400
Speaker 7: all de Chandre Pantosi and Brandon Moreno, because twenty eight

1821
01:26:36,479 --> 01:26:39,120
Speaker 7: days after Amanda noon As issues a challenge to her

1822
01:26:39,160 --> 01:26:42,280
Speaker 7: fellow Brazilians to get a champion because they had none.

1823
01:26:42,760 --> 01:26:45,680
Speaker 7: Now they got one. It's all Chandre Pantosia and we've

1824
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:47,120
Speaker 7: hit on a lot of angles of this. So I

1825
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:49,439
Speaker 7: wanted to ask you about the context of Jason herzag

1826
01:26:49,439 --> 01:26:52,280
Speaker 7: Get in this fight allowing Pantosia to work, because if

1827
01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:54,080
Speaker 7: it's Mark Smith or Dan Murgley out of some of

1828
01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:57,360
Speaker 7: these guys with a short trigger, maybe things are differently

1829
01:26:57,439 --> 01:27:01,200
Speaker 7: and maybe even I interpret the effective grappling differently. How

1830
01:27:01,240 --> 01:27:03,160
Speaker 7: did you see the fight, how did you score the fight?

1831
01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:06,280
Speaker 7: And what did you think of Herzog's ability?

1832
01:27:06,520 --> 01:27:06,640
Speaker 3: Right?

1833
01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:09,240
Speaker 1: In my mind, I think is his willingness and his

1834
01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:10,320
Speaker 1: ability to let them fight.

1835
01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:13,080
Speaker 3: So, first off, I think Jason Herzog is the best

1836
01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:15,880
Speaker 3: referee in MMA. He is my number one currently. I

1837
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:17,040
Speaker 3: mean there's a lot of great referees.

1838
01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:18,680
Speaker 1: I thought he did good. I mean there was a

1839
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:19,840
Speaker 1: I mean, you can make an.

1840
01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:21,960
Speaker 3: Argument when Pintoja had his back in the fifth round

1841
01:27:22,320 --> 01:27:23,720
Speaker 3: and not a lot was going It was a little

1842
01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:25,439
Speaker 3: bit of a stall tactic. We didn't really see him

1843
01:27:25,439 --> 01:27:27,599
Speaker 3: going for a choke, but not many referees. You gotta

1844
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:28,840
Speaker 3: break that up when he got him in the back.

1845
01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:30,960
Speaker 3: I like these high level guys who are good on

1846
01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:33,960
Speaker 3: the ground, who have been creating scrambles the entire fight.

1847
01:27:34,439 --> 01:27:37,600
Speaker 3: You let him go for a title. Right, Speaking of Pantosia,

1848
01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:39,760
Speaker 3: he has got a fan of me for life. Now,

1849
01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:42,520
Speaker 3: I mean, this is a guy I've always obviously respected

1850
01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:46,000
Speaker 3: and mired or whatever, but the heart and display that

1851
01:27:46,080 --> 01:27:48,479
Speaker 3: he put on, and for someone who grew up with

1852
01:27:48,640 --> 01:27:51,559
Speaker 3: a really shitty dad without a good relationship with my father,

1853
01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:54,439
Speaker 3: that I mean it was like my wife watching a

1854
01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:57,200
Speaker 3: notebook me Saturday night. You got Robbie Lows, he got Pintojo.

1855
01:27:57,240 --> 01:27:58,760
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, I just got some mine.

1856
01:27:58,840 --> 01:27:59,639
Speaker 1: I'm cool. I'm cool.

1857
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:02,040
Speaker 3: But that hit home with me and your boy pu

1858
01:28:02,200 --> 01:28:04,760
Speaker 3: Humpa finally getting the title. That's awesome. I saw the

1859
01:28:04,800 --> 01:28:06,800
Speaker 3: picture of him with the belt and he earned it.

1860
01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:08,880
Speaker 3: I mean, you guys hit on it. Kenny and I

1861
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:12,560
Speaker 3: and Cody Connor were texting about the scorecards and we

1862
01:28:12,680 --> 01:28:14,960
Speaker 3: didn't know Pantosia can go four and five, right, we

1863
01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:15,600
Speaker 3: haven't seen it.

1864
01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:16,439
Speaker 1: He did.

1865
01:28:16,600 --> 01:28:18,920
Speaker 3: He dug deep, he took a lot of shots, gave

1866
01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:21,960
Speaker 3: a lot of shots back, and really fought intelligent Cardio

1867
01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:25,120
Speaker 3: on display, hard on display. And man, there's an overhead

1868
01:28:25,160 --> 01:28:28,439
Speaker 3: shot where he like collapsed on the ring versu he's

1869
01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:31,000
Speaker 3: on the gauge after he got announced winning. I mean,

1870
01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:33,240
Speaker 3: it's in the fields, man. I mean, the guy's got

1871
01:28:33,280 --> 01:28:36,520
Speaker 3: a fan for life. But I scored it for a Pantosios.

1872
01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:39,160
Speaker 3: It was really close. But I thought Pantosia won for sure.

1873
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:42,800
Speaker 7: Kenny, I didn't cry for about ten years, and then

1874
01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:45,320
Speaker 7: I had children. I didn't actually push out the children,

1875
01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:49,040
Speaker 7: but me and my wife pro created together. And now

1876
01:28:49,640 --> 01:28:53,360
Speaker 7: I cry at so many things. Now I can hold

1877
01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:56,040
Speaker 7: it together on a UFC live telecast pretty well. But

1878
01:28:56,240 --> 01:29:00,599
Speaker 7: like if I see somebody win like America's Guy Talent,

1879
01:29:00,800 --> 01:29:04,080
Speaker 7: or perform well, or like I just do you cry?

1880
01:29:04,200 --> 01:29:05,760
Speaker 1: Ken Flow? Are you a big career? You don't strike

1881
01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:07,120
Speaker 1: me as a big crier.

1882
01:29:07,240 --> 01:29:09,280
Speaker 5: Every once in a while, But I think there's something

1883
01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:12,639
Speaker 5: to that, right. Having kids, I think that definitely opens

1884
01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:15,559
Speaker 5: something up in us, right because I think that all

1885
01:29:15,640 --> 01:29:17,320
Speaker 5: of us, if you're trying to be a good parent,

1886
01:29:17,400 --> 01:29:19,720
Speaker 5: you want to see your kid achieve their dreams. You

1887
01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:22,400
Speaker 5: want to see them achieve everything that they hope for,

1888
01:29:23,160 --> 01:29:26,040
Speaker 5: and you almost you put yourself in that situation of

1889
01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:28,600
Speaker 5: almost you're looking at your child in that moment like

1890
01:29:28,680 --> 01:29:32,240
Speaker 5: that's someone's kid and that person went out worked their

1891
01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:36,519
Speaker 5: absolute asses off and finally achieved that thing, and that's

1892
01:29:36,560 --> 01:29:38,040
Speaker 5: what we want for a kids, and we can almost

1893
01:29:38,080 --> 01:29:41,679
Speaker 5: imagine it. You're just like, yeah, it can be definitely

1894
01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:44,680
Speaker 5: easy to be overtaken by emotion and that was one

1895
01:29:44,680 --> 01:29:47,360
Speaker 5: of those situations. And I think that's what makes mixed

1896
01:29:47,400 --> 01:29:50,640
Speaker 5: martial arts the best sport in the world. It's that

1897
01:29:51,280 --> 01:29:53,840
Speaker 5: you know, ability to come back from adversity. There are

1898
01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:57,680
Speaker 5: so many highs and lows in this sport and it's literally,

1899
01:29:58,360 --> 01:30:00,800
Speaker 5: you know, riddled with killers. And to make it to

1900
01:30:00,920 --> 01:30:03,120
Speaker 5: the top of that mountain, you have to be an

1901
01:30:03,240 --> 01:30:08,160
Speaker 5: absolute savage. And uh, that was just another great story

1902
01:30:08,200 --> 01:30:11,240
Speaker 5: in a long line of great stories and mixed martial arts.

1903
01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:13,639
Speaker 7: And this might be the best show that you've ever done.

1904
01:30:13,720 --> 01:30:16,559
Speaker 7: And uh, and I'm not watching movies on planes anymore.

1905
01:30:16,600 --> 01:30:19,680
Speaker 7: It's like I can't even watch like like movie. I'm

1906
01:30:19,720 --> 01:30:22,040
Speaker 7: trying to like have movies that scare me on planes

1907
01:30:22,080 --> 01:30:25,960
Speaker 7: and then I'm like crying for some reason. All Right,

1908
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:27,880
Speaker 7: so I'm gonna hit you with a few rapid fires

1909
01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:30,519
Speaker 7: VP because I don't want to belabor things too much.

1910
01:30:30,840 --> 01:30:33,280
Speaker 7: Hopefully people are enjoying the program today. So for all

1911
01:30:33,320 --> 01:30:37,040
Speaker 7: Dechandre Pantosia, you go in Moreno Rematch, or you go

1912
01:30:37,160 --> 01:30:38,200
Speaker 7: in Brandon Royvall.

1913
01:30:38,720 --> 01:30:41,519
Speaker 3: I voted on Nagahorian pod. I want, I Want, I

1914
01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:44,200
Speaker 3: want Revolve. I think Moreno, He's been in a lot

1915
01:30:44,240 --> 01:30:46,360
Speaker 3: of title fights lately. We don't need to see three

1916
01:30:46,479 --> 01:30:48,599
Speaker 3: four right away. Let Marino go out, get a couple

1917
01:30:48,600 --> 01:30:50,120
Speaker 3: of wins, or maybe one or two. He's got a

1918
01:30:50,160 --> 01:30:52,519
Speaker 3: big name. Give me Brandon revol though, next, I think,

1919
01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:53,240
Speaker 3: I think he's earned it.

1920
01:30:53,880 --> 01:30:56,720
Speaker 7: And then how do you handicap Volkanovsky against some of

1921
01:30:56,800 --> 01:30:59,960
Speaker 7: these lightweights, like say Dustin Poorier and Justin Gaetgee. We've

1922
01:31:00,040 --> 01:31:02,200
Speaker 7: seeing the Islam makas Chef fight, but how do you

1923
01:31:02,280 --> 01:31:05,439
Speaker 7: feel about his game translating against the true elite guys

1924
01:31:05,479 --> 01:31:06,160
Speaker 7: at fifty five?

1925
01:31:06,760 --> 01:31:08,880
Speaker 3: I mean the striking to see, that's the kind of

1926
01:31:08,920 --> 01:31:11,760
Speaker 3: shit I love, is what The striking display of Wokanowski,

1927
01:31:12,120 --> 01:31:14,760
Speaker 3: The subtle things that he did to shut your year down,

1928
01:31:15,160 --> 01:31:17,920
Speaker 3: the subtle swift stants you're gonna throw the kick, I'm

1929
01:31:17,920 --> 01:31:20,080
Speaker 3: gonna go for a takedown now, that is some genius,

1930
01:31:20,680 --> 01:31:23,880
Speaker 3: high high level stuff. After watching that, watching the timing,

1931
01:31:23,960 --> 01:31:28,400
Speaker 3: watching the power, watching him ragdall the year Islam, I'm saying, Oh,

1932
01:31:28,439 --> 01:31:31,000
Speaker 3: this dude's fucking strong, right. I like his chances at

1933
01:31:31,000 --> 01:31:33,360
Speaker 3: fifty five against anybody. I mean, even with an Islam

1934
01:31:33,439 --> 01:31:36,639
Speaker 3: reach match. He's short, he's you know whatever. But other

1935
01:31:36,680 --> 01:31:39,320
Speaker 3: than that. He's a powerful dude, And I mean I

1936
01:31:39,600 --> 01:31:42,120
Speaker 3: was I've rewatched the main event like three or four times,

1937
01:31:42,320 --> 01:31:45,240
Speaker 3: just like, okay, that is like some of the greatest

1938
01:31:45,280 --> 01:31:47,880
Speaker 3: things I've ever seen it. I mean, I'm doorking out

1939
01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:51,000
Speaker 3: about it. It's it's incredible and it's just little subtle stuff.

1940
01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:53,760
Speaker 3: It's not flashy, so it's not catching a lot of eyes.

1941
01:31:53,520 --> 01:31:56,840
Speaker 1: But man, it's so in high level and good, unbelievable.

1942
01:31:57,360 --> 01:32:00,719
Speaker 7: Congrats to Heesusagi Laar for the seventeen I can knockout

1943
01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:02,960
Speaker 7: of Shannon Ross. What a huge moment for him. You

1944
01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:05,320
Speaker 7: got to think there's a discretionary bonus coming his way.

1945
01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:08,519
Speaker 7: VI Tor Petrino, you were on him. Nice prelim selection

1946
01:32:08,600 --> 01:32:11,679
Speaker 7: there he gets his first career win by submission. Alonzo Menfield,

1947
01:32:11,720 --> 01:32:13,800
Speaker 7: I really think is coming into his own at thirty five.

1948
01:32:14,080 --> 01:32:16,639
Speaker 7: I did message my friend the bendigobomber Jimmy Crue today.

1949
01:32:16,640 --> 01:32:19,200
Speaker 7: Hopefully he doesn't retire. I'd like to see him at

1950
01:32:19,280 --> 01:32:21,960
Speaker 7: least try to sort of put in one more good camp,

1951
01:32:22,080 --> 01:32:23,920
Speaker 7: but I'm not sure his heart is still in it.

1952
01:32:24,560 --> 01:32:27,960
Speaker 7: And then Denise Gomes Tatsuro Tyra, I mean, this is

1953
01:32:28,040 --> 01:32:29,920
Speaker 7: one of the more memorable knights for me of all time.

1954
01:32:29,960 --> 01:32:34,800
Speaker 7: But Denise Gomes fastest finish in UFC straweight history against

1955
01:32:34,840 --> 01:32:38,839
Speaker 7: the previously undefeated Jasmine HAWRIGHI did Gomes get a bonus?

1956
01:32:39,280 --> 01:32:43,040
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think she did. DeNisi fucking Gomes anything else

1957
01:32:43,120 --> 01:32:45,639
Speaker 1: VP on UFC two ninety before we'd spend this thing forward.

1958
01:32:45,800 --> 01:32:47,519
Speaker 3: I mean, I think you guys touched on a lot

1959
01:32:47,600 --> 01:32:49,599
Speaker 3: of it. I mean it was probably the greatest card

1960
01:32:49,640 --> 01:32:52,120
Speaker 3: I've ever seen, you know, I mean top five, And

1961
01:32:52,240 --> 01:32:55,040
Speaker 3: I'm not being regency bias. I just think the storylines

1962
01:32:55,439 --> 01:32:58,000
Speaker 3: and everything adding up the level of fighting as well.

1963
01:32:58,439 --> 01:33:00,639
Speaker 3: Bo Nickel, I mean, listen, I mean I'm a bow

1964
01:33:00,720 --> 01:33:04,040
Speaker 3: Nickel guy. I didn't want to put this out publicly

1965
01:33:04,120 --> 01:33:07,040
Speaker 3: because a lot of people are against Bo. I guess

1966
01:33:07,120 --> 01:33:09,120
Speaker 3: you know there's some haters out there. I texted Cody,

1967
01:33:09,120 --> 01:33:10,400
Speaker 3: I said, I think he's gonna be champed with in

1968
01:33:10,479 --> 01:33:13,519
Speaker 3: ten fights. I mean, Chris Wyman did an eleven. I mean,

1969
01:33:13,600 --> 01:33:16,080
Speaker 3: bow Nickel can do it. I'm like, I'm getting ahead

1970
01:33:16,080 --> 01:33:18,519
Speaker 3: of myself, but man, I'm the sky's a limit for

1971
01:33:18,600 --> 01:33:18,880
Speaker 3: this kid.

1972
01:33:19,280 --> 01:33:21,360
Speaker 7: Well, and there's a definite point of comparison with Chris

1973
01:33:21,400 --> 01:33:23,600
Speaker 7: Wyman and bow Nickel in terms of uh, not just

1974
01:33:23,720 --> 01:33:26,519
Speaker 7: the appetite for knowledge, but the ability to incorporate things

1975
01:33:26,600 --> 01:33:29,479
Speaker 7: into their game. And I think Volkanovsky too is another

1976
01:33:29,560 --> 01:33:33,800
Speaker 7: guy my gosh, just as long as his body holds up.

1977
01:33:34,160 --> 01:33:38,240
Speaker 7: I mean, anybody can be knocked out. But geez, man,

1978
01:33:38,320 --> 01:33:40,880
Speaker 7: I hope people are fucking making money on Volkanovsky.

1979
01:33:41,400 --> 01:33:43,240
Speaker 1: All right, I did, I gave.

1980
01:33:44,400 --> 01:33:46,680
Speaker 3: I had a bad night, but what saved me was

1981
01:33:47,120 --> 01:33:49,000
Speaker 3: all week. I don't want to brag here. All week

1982
01:33:49,040 --> 01:33:52,000
Speaker 3: I'm like, man, I'm getting text plays and stuff, and

1983
01:33:52,080 --> 01:33:54,519
Speaker 3: I go, I really think Volkanoski's gonna do it late.

1984
01:33:54,640 --> 01:33:58,040
Speaker 3: So I played Volkanovski by knockout round round three and

1985
01:33:58,240 --> 01:34:02,479
Speaker 3: round four. Obviously, yes, I hit the round, but man,

1986
01:34:02,560 --> 01:34:03,960
Speaker 3: I just I just thought that's the way it was

1987
01:34:04,200 --> 01:34:06,160
Speaker 3: kind of gonna go. Was a little ground and pound,

1988
01:34:06,160 --> 01:34:08,639
Speaker 3: a lot of wrestling, and uh yeah, so but I'm

1989
01:34:08,680 --> 01:34:10,840
Speaker 3: still down on the night I went really happy on

1990
01:34:10,960 --> 01:34:12,960
Speaker 3: Bobby Knuckles that yeah.

1991
01:34:13,120 --> 01:34:14,840
Speaker 1: All right, Well we're going to get into all of that.

1992
01:34:15,320 --> 01:34:18,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, but before we update the standings, actually, let me

1993
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:21,080
Speaker 7: update the standings first, and I'll circle back to the

1994
01:34:21,160 --> 01:34:24,599
Speaker 7: pronunciation of the week. All right, Pronunciation of the week

1995
01:34:24,640 --> 01:34:27,360
Speaker 7: by the way, is an absolute doozy. I think we're

1996
01:34:27,360 --> 01:34:30,200
Speaker 7: gonna have a Brazilian flayer to that segment for a while.

1997
01:34:31,000 --> 01:34:33,840
Speaker 7: But the updated standings read like this Team Florian was

1998
01:34:33,960 --> 01:34:36,719
Speaker 7: minus twelve forty five on the year, Team Petrie minus

1999
01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:39,720
Speaker 7: eighteen twenty. Here comes the pain, Kenny. At least you

2000
01:34:39,800 --> 01:34:43,080
Speaker 7: fucking brought it for the previous ninety minutes, right, So

2001
01:34:43,240 --> 01:34:45,960
Speaker 7: Petrie goes three and four overall, five unit play on

2002
01:34:46,080 --> 01:34:48,679
Speaker 7: bo Nickel gets wiped out with the change of opponent.

2003
01:34:48,760 --> 01:34:51,559
Speaker 7: Did have that nice whack as we mentioned on Vitor

2004
01:34:51,640 --> 01:34:54,559
Speaker 7: Patrino as your extra prelium play minus five twenty five

2005
01:34:54,640 --> 01:34:56,320
Speaker 7: on the week. Not too bad, but you're now minus

2006
01:34:56,360 --> 01:34:59,360
Speaker 7: twenty three forty five on the year. Team Florian started

2007
01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:02,559
Speaker 7: the week minus twelve forty five for twenty twenty three

2008
01:35:02,720 --> 01:35:05,679
Speaker 7: two and four. Nice whack for you both on Robbi Lawler,

2009
01:35:05,720 --> 01:35:08,040
Speaker 7: by the way, plus two twenty. But again, losing on

2010
01:35:08,160 --> 01:35:10,240
Speaker 7: big favorites is is going to hurt you here in

2011
01:35:10,320 --> 01:35:13,120
Speaker 7: this main event challenge. So Jalen Turner, Ken Flow, Brandon

2012
01:35:13,200 --> 01:35:17,200
Speaker 7: Moreno and then the five unit nineteen hundred and fifty

2013
01:35:17,240 --> 01:35:20,040
Speaker 7: dollars play on Robert Whitaker and minus three ninety, so

2014
01:35:21,439 --> 01:35:24,240
Speaker 7: it's minus two thousand, one hundred and eighty five American

2015
01:35:24,320 --> 01:35:25,280
Speaker 7: dollars on the week.

2016
01:35:25,120 --> 01:35:32,320
Speaker 1: And now minus all it hurts so good, so minus

2017
01:35:32,479 --> 01:35:34,160
Speaker 1: thirty four to thirty on the year.

2018
01:35:34,240 --> 01:35:38,400
Speaker 7: And for the first time since January, Team Petree slash

2019
01:35:38,600 --> 01:35:40,400
Speaker 7: And has taken.

2020
01:35:40,160 --> 01:35:46,120
Speaker 1: The lead by over dollars thirty fourth. Wow, sod damn it.

2021
01:35:47,040 --> 01:35:51,320
Speaker 7: Penny and Cody need to start conditioning their scalps for

2022
01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:55,080
Speaker 7: breaking the bottles over the head.

2023
01:35:55,400 --> 01:35:57,559
Speaker 1: Live on the show. That's the punishment.

2024
01:35:57,560 --> 01:36:00,519
Speaker 7: We're going to find the softest, most play plastic like

2025
01:36:00,600 --> 01:36:04,439
Speaker 7: glass bottles we can find. The losers of the main

2026
01:36:04,479 --> 01:36:07,320
Speaker 7: event challenge this year are cracking bottles over their heads.

2027
01:36:07,360 --> 01:36:09,760
Speaker 7: And I have no hair, so you know I'm not

2028
01:36:09,800 --> 01:36:11,639
Speaker 7: gonna like grow my hair out for the four.

2029
01:36:11,560 --> 01:36:14,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I said, you do the Cornholio, no cuts,

2030
01:36:14,640 --> 01:36:15,360
Speaker 3: not than you're good.

2031
01:36:15,680 --> 01:36:17,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe we'll do a hood. I'm not getting a

2032
01:36:17,800 --> 01:36:20,040
Speaker 1: South Africa flag tattoo though. I'm sorry.

2033
01:36:20,800 --> 01:36:24,080
Speaker 7: All right, man, let us get into this pronunciation of

2034
01:36:24,120 --> 01:36:26,280
Speaker 7: the week. She's fighting Holly Holme this weekend.

2035
01:36:26,400 --> 01:36:27,519
Speaker 1: Bry Yeah.

2036
01:36:27,840 --> 01:36:29,880
Speaker 7: The first two names are what we need from you.

2037
01:36:30,080 --> 01:36:33,680
Speaker 7: The last name is Silva or silvas.

2038
01:36:33,560 --> 01:36:36,000
Speaker 1: I might say, right, but we need the first two

2039
01:36:36,120 --> 01:36:38,639
Speaker 1: names of Holly Holmes's opponent, briy.

2040
01:36:38,760 --> 01:36:40,719
Speaker 3: See, I don't know if I'd be a good fighter,

2041
01:36:40,720 --> 01:36:42,479
Speaker 3: because you've already gotten my head a little bit. You

2042
01:36:42,560 --> 01:36:44,720
Speaker 3: said this is a doozy. When you send this in

2043
01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:46,640
Speaker 3: the email, I'm like, Oh, I'm gonna fucking nail this.

2044
01:36:47,680 --> 01:36:53,320
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go Myra Bueno Silva. It's pretty good, Myra

2045
01:36:53,680 --> 01:36:54,759
Speaker 3: Bueno Silva.

2046
01:36:55,040 --> 01:37:10,400
Speaker 1: All right, let's hear let's hear her and Myra, she thought,

2047
01:37:14,680 --> 01:37:17,680
Speaker 1: So we do like when Petrit goes musical interlude. He

2048
01:37:17,680 --> 01:37:19,040
Speaker 1: didn't go musical interlude.

2049
01:37:19,120 --> 01:37:22,360
Speaker 3: Well, a lot of brazil either I sound very Italian

2050
01:37:22,439 --> 01:37:24,960
Speaker 3: when I do Brazilian, or I go very musical and

2051
01:37:25,160 --> 01:37:28,000
Speaker 3: tomorrow you know. I mean, that's like that's kind of

2052
01:37:28,040 --> 01:37:31,559
Speaker 3: a mix there. But she kind of got musical saying

2053
01:37:31,600 --> 01:37:35,080
Speaker 3: it as well that she did. Yeah, Kenny, that's kidd.

2054
01:37:37,800 --> 01:37:39,479
Speaker 1: Kenny, Kenny.

2055
01:37:39,600 --> 01:37:42,200
Speaker 7: I I have my opinion as to whether or not

2056
01:37:42,360 --> 01:37:44,679
Speaker 7: circle gets a square today. Would you give him credit

2057
01:37:44,760 --> 01:37:46,160
Speaker 7: for his pronunciation?

2058
01:37:46,920 --> 01:37:49,160
Speaker 1: It was pretty damn close. Did he say? Maita?

2059
01:37:49,520 --> 01:37:52,120
Speaker 7: So that's see see again, that's why I was a

2060
01:37:52,160 --> 01:37:56,760
Speaker 7: little yeah, yeah, So you will hear this weekend it's

2061
01:37:56,760 --> 01:37:58,360
Speaker 7: Holly Holm versus Maita.

2062
01:37:58,600 --> 01:38:03,519
Speaker 1: Wait no, so so I'm sorry, but that's just.

2063
01:38:03,600 --> 01:38:05,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, give me a no. I gotta know that's okay.

2064
01:38:05,760 --> 01:38:07,439
Speaker 1: I'll thank him enough, fick him up.

2065
01:38:07,800 --> 01:38:10,519
Speaker 7: More importantly, for our audience, all of these odds courtesy

2066
01:38:10,560 --> 01:38:13,800
Speaker 7: of DraftKings Sportsbook. We need some predictions, fellas. It's UFC

2067
01:38:13,920 --> 01:38:16,320
Speaker 7: Fight Night Home versus Might You eat a play No

2068
01:38:16,439 --> 01:38:18,519
Speaker 7: silv a Live from the UFC Apex. First fight for

2069
01:38:18,640 --> 01:38:22,080
Speaker 7: US involves Longo's Guy Nazim Satakav minus one fifty terns

2070
01:38:22,160 --> 01:38:25,400
Speaker 7: McKinney plus one thirty Is it Sadakab either way? He's

2071
01:38:25,400 --> 01:38:27,880
Speaker 7: twenty nine years of age eight and one, coming off

2072
01:38:27,920 --> 01:38:30,599
Speaker 7: a big stoppage of Evan Elder and his UFC debut.

2073
01:38:30,720 --> 01:38:33,160
Speaker 1: Bry Now was back in February. It was the fight

2074
01:38:33,240 --> 01:38:35,680
Speaker 1: of the night. Now he draws McKinny, who could use

2075
01:38:35,720 --> 01:38:38,000
Speaker 1: a win after what happened in Rio back in January.

2076
01:38:38,120 --> 01:38:39,080
Speaker 1: Had to handicap this one.

2077
01:38:39,680 --> 01:38:42,600
Speaker 3: Love this fight, Love this fight, Go ahead, all the commenters,

2078
01:38:42,720 --> 01:38:47,440
Speaker 3: go ahead. Ryan's a homer. He's just picking Longos Guy Longos.

2079
01:38:47,479 --> 01:38:51,320
Speaker 3: Guys wins, right, So I'm going nats here. They do win.

2080
01:38:51,720 --> 01:38:54,439
Speaker 3: Nas Is sturdy man. He's a thick tank of a

2081
01:38:54,560 --> 01:38:57,360
Speaker 3: guy and he's got Cordier for days. He fought a

2082
01:38:57,400 --> 01:38:59,160
Speaker 3: really good guy in the CONTENTI sary he's knocked him

2083
01:38:59,160 --> 01:39:01,639
Speaker 3: out in round three, and then he fought Evin Elder,

2084
01:39:01,640 --> 01:39:03,360
Speaker 3: who's zero and two in the UFC currently but is

2085
01:39:03,400 --> 01:39:06,280
Speaker 3: a good grappler, is experience, has a good resume. He's

2086
01:39:06,320 --> 01:39:08,519
Speaker 3: fighting on this card as well, and I know the cut.

2087
01:39:08,600 --> 01:39:10,240
Speaker 3: It was a very close fight until the cut happened.

2088
01:39:10,280 --> 01:39:12,960
Speaker 3: But this guy's nasty, like long those guys, He's in

2089
01:39:13,040 --> 01:39:17,240
Speaker 3: your face. He has an incredible cardio in as tough

2090
01:39:17,280 --> 01:39:19,679
Speaker 3: as nails. He's training and that gym is on fire

2091
01:39:19,720 --> 01:39:22,599
Speaker 3: right now with Favola, Dennis Mazooke. They got some studs

2092
01:39:22,600 --> 01:39:24,639
Speaker 3: and I think Nas is coming out winning. Terrence mckinniy

2093
01:39:24,920 --> 01:39:27,280
Speaker 3: talented kid. I gotta watch what I said because I've

2094
01:39:27,320 --> 01:39:29,160
Speaker 3: seen some people criticize him before and he's put him

2095
01:39:29,200 --> 01:39:32,639
Speaker 3: on blast. I think he's incredibly talented kid. He's gonna

2096
01:39:32,640 --> 01:39:34,639
Speaker 3: come out there. If you're gonna play Terrence mckenny's round

2097
01:39:34,640 --> 01:39:37,160
Speaker 3: one knockout. I have yet to see Terrence mckennie go

2098
01:39:37,640 --> 01:39:40,200
Speaker 3: two rounds, three rounds. He hasn't proven it. Everything's fast,

2099
01:39:40,280 --> 01:39:43,880
Speaker 3: everything's quick. He's explosive. That's his style. That's great. He's

2100
01:39:43,880 --> 01:39:45,280
Speaker 3: gotta have to figure it out if he doesn't have

2101
01:39:45,320 --> 01:39:47,400
Speaker 3: a cardio for that. So give me nas and now

2102
01:39:47,520 --> 01:39:50,160
Speaker 3: like that, nods for my New York brothers out there.

2103
01:39:50,560 --> 01:39:53,880
Speaker 3: Give me three units out of that three extra units

2104
01:39:53,920 --> 01:39:55,919
Speaker 3: on nas there three.

2105
01:39:55,920 --> 01:40:00,439
Speaker 7: Units on nas at minus one point fifty, I can flow,

2106
01:40:00,479 --> 01:40:02,360
Speaker 7: this is your division, one hundred and fifty five pounds.

2107
01:40:02,360 --> 01:40:04,519
Speaker 7: If you don't know, Kenny fought for the UFC Lightweight

2108
01:40:04,600 --> 01:40:08,479
Speaker 7: Championship twice. McKinney started fast in the UFC, that seven

2109
01:40:08,560 --> 01:40:10,880
Speaker 7: second knockout of matt Ravola. Now though he has lost

2110
01:40:10,920 --> 01:40:13,479
Speaker 7: two of his last three couple submission wins. For McKinney

2111
01:40:13,520 --> 01:40:15,680
Speaker 7: as well in the UFC, can flow your thoughts on

2112
01:40:15,880 --> 01:40:18,559
Speaker 7: him here as the underdog against Longo's guy.

2113
01:40:18,920 --> 01:40:21,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think mckinny's an excellent fighter. I think he's

2114
01:40:21,479 --> 01:40:24,519
Speaker 5: very technical. I think he tends to get off to

2115
01:40:24,640 --> 01:40:27,519
Speaker 5: a hot start. After that he does tend to fade.

2116
01:40:27,640 --> 01:40:31,760
Speaker 5: And you know, I wonder how much substance there is

2117
01:40:31,840 --> 01:40:34,880
Speaker 5: to his game, meaning what are his fundamentals all about?

2118
01:40:34,960 --> 01:40:37,679
Speaker 5: You know, does he have just a few dangerous techniques

2119
01:40:37,720 --> 01:40:39,680
Speaker 5: and after that it just all goes away. Does it

2120
01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:40,519
Speaker 5: all fall apart?

2121
01:40:40,920 --> 01:40:43,360
Speaker 1: I don't know, but that's kind of what it seems like.

2122
01:40:43,600 --> 01:40:47,200
Speaker 5: And hopefully Terrence McKinney is able to get back on track.

2123
01:40:47,560 --> 01:40:51,439
Speaker 5: But I think Nazim saidakoff is a problem. I think

2124
01:40:51,720 --> 01:40:54,200
Speaker 5: to see him, the way that he counterstrikes and can

2125
01:40:54,320 --> 01:40:57,400
Speaker 5: stay in the pocket, get out of the pocket and return,

2126
01:40:58,000 --> 01:41:01,320
Speaker 5: especially with that left hand cross is very impressive. It's

2127
01:41:01,320 --> 01:41:04,519
Speaker 5: a high level pull that he that he throws and

2128
01:41:04,720 --> 01:41:06,920
Speaker 5: lands so and I think he's got a lot of

2129
01:41:06,920 --> 01:41:09,559
Speaker 5: different skills as well. You know, seeing him and doing

2130
01:41:09,600 --> 01:41:12,240
Speaker 5: my research and watching the videos on Nazem, I was

2131
01:41:12,320 --> 01:41:14,680
Speaker 5: just really impressed with his whole outlook and very mature kid.

2132
01:41:14,760 --> 01:41:16,200
Speaker 1: He's been working very hard at this.

2133
01:41:16,439 --> 01:41:18,600
Speaker 5: He's got a great support system of course, with all

2134
01:41:18,640 --> 01:41:21,120
Speaker 5: the guys over long ago and and all the all

2135
01:41:21,200 --> 01:41:23,000
Speaker 5: the great fighters that are around him as well. That

2136
01:41:23,280 --> 01:41:26,080
Speaker 5: that helps kind of feed that momentum and that confidence.

2137
01:41:26,120 --> 01:41:27,880
Speaker 5: So I think he's in a good spot to win this.

2138
01:41:28,760 --> 01:41:31,960
Speaker 5: I'm gonna put two units on Nazeem. I really get

2139
01:41:32,000 --> 01:41:35,759
Speaker 5: it done. Terrence is very dangerous, like BP set, especially

2140
01:41:35,840 --> 01:41:37,880
Speaker 5: in round one, so he's got to be careful there.

2141
01:41:38,920 --> 01:41:41,519
Speaker 5: McKenny has a lot of firepower early, but I think

2142
01:41:41,600 --> 01:41:45,160
Speaker 5: Nazein is slick enough to avoid that and then come

2143
01:41:45,200 --> 01:41:45,760
Speaker 5: away with a win.

2144
01:41:46,160 --> 01:41:48,240
Speaker 7: I can almost guarantee you that minus one fifty is

2145
01:41:48,280 --> 01:41:49,880
Speaker 7: not going to be there. If these two guys are

2146
01:41:49,920 --> 01:41:54,120
Speaker 7: dropping multiple units on nas this weekend, that Robbi Lawler

2147
01:41:54,240 --> 01:41:56,400
Speaker 7: two twenty was nowhere to be found. After you guys,

2148
01:41:57,080 --> 01:41:59,800
Speaker 7: put your nuts on the table, all right. Next fight,

2149
01:42:00,080 --> 01:42:03,479
Speaker 7: Lightweight Argentinas Francisco Prado minus won twenty five taken on

2150
01:42:03,600 --> 01:42:07,080
Speaker 7: Morocco's Ottman a Zytar, who is plus one oh five

2151
01:42:08,400 --> 01:42:11,040
Speaker 7: so proto bri one of the youngest fighters on the roster,

2152
01:42:11,160 --> 01:42:13,920
Speaker 7: twenty one years of age as of June sixteenth. He

2153
01:42:14,040 --> 01:42:16,519
Speaker 7: was born in two thousand and two. Dropped his UFC

2154
01:42:16,680 --> 01:42:20,560
Speaker 7: debut unanimous decision at Jamie Malaci a UFC two to

2155
01:42:20,600 --> 01:42:22,960
Speaker 7: eighty four in Perth, and spins it forward here as

2156
01:42:22,960 --> 01:42:24,799
Speaker 7: a slight favorite against a Zyetar.

2157
01:42:24,920 --> 01:42:27,160
Speaker 1: Talk to me, hopefully.

2158
01:42:26,880 --> 01:42:29,640
Speaker 3: Aughtman got his potatoes, because I'm taking him here at

2159
01:42:29,720 --> 01:42:32,240
Speaker 3: that underdog price here, you know what I mean, A big,

2160
01:42:32,360 --> 01:42:34,120
Speaker 3: powerful guy. Last time I saw him out he got

2161
01:42:34,240 --> 01:42:38,640
Speaker 3: absolutely steamrolled by the steamroller. How to play that one up.

2162
01:42:38,800 --> 01:42:41,040
Speaker 3: But yeah, listen, the guy's big, powerful, one hundred percent

2163
01:42:41,120 --> 01:42:42,720
Speaker 3: taking on offense, but had the guys really take them

2164
01:42:42,760 --> 01:42:45,240
Speaker 3: out and think about proto look at against Jane Mark,

2165
01:42:45,360 --> 01:42:47,120
Speaker 3: that's a hard guy to debut against when you're twenty

2166
01:42:47,120 --> 01:42:51,000
Speaker 3: one years old. The Argentina seam, you get guys that

2167
01:42:51,080 --> 01:42:52,719
Speaker 3: come out and they and they know how to punch

2168
01:42:52,800 --> 01:42:54,760
Speaker 3: and that you know sebon Reba Bicks this past weekend.

2169
01:42:54,800 --> 01:42:57,840
Speaker 3: He's a really good U standout from Argentina as well

2170
01:42:57,840 --> 01:43:01,160
Speaker 3: as nthing all Ponsinibio. But the jungle fight system that

2171
01:43:01,240 --> 01:43:03,439
Speaker 3: they got, the guys that they bring up, it's sometimes

2172
01:43:03,479 --> 01:43:05,080
Speaker 3: it's a little weak and aw twenty one years old.

2173
01:43:05,160 --> 01:43:06,880
Speaker 3: I looked at his record, it looks to me fought,

2174
01:43:06,920 --> 01:43:08,160
Speaker 3: and I think it might be a little weak. He

2175
01:43:08,240 --> 01:43:11,960
Speaker 3: showed pretty good against Jamie Malarkey and Otman is a

2176
01:43:12,040 --> 01:43:13,720
Speaker 3: one kind of one trick pony, at least that's what

2177
01:43:13,800 --> 01:43:16,639
Speaker 3: he's proven to be. So I like Opman my play here,

2178
01:43:16,680 --> 01:43:18,479
Speaker 3: I'm gonna pick Opman for the show, but my play

2179
01:43:18,960 --> 01:43:21,120
Speaker 3: and with real money, real life is gonna be Otman

2180
01:43:21,160 --> 01:43:24,000
Speaker 3: by Ko maybe even round one. I think he's an

2181
01:43:24,040 --> 01:43:26,080
Speaker 3: explosive talent. I think he's got a lot of money

2182
01:43:26,120 --> 01:43:28,519
Speaker 3: backing him, so I gotta imagine he's a He's got

2183
01:43:28,560 --> 01:43:30,479
Speaker 3: a great camp going right now. So give me atman

2184
01:43:30,520 --> 01:43:32,200
Speaker 3: at the at the dog price can flow?

2185
01:43:32,280 --> 01:43:35,800
Speaker 7: Is Iar thirteen and one overall, coming off that aforementioned

2186
01:43:35,880 --> 01:43:37,960
Speaker 7: loss to Provola that was UFC two to eighty one

2187
01:43:38,040 --> 01:43:40,160
Speaker 7: last November, first pro loss for his iar.

2188
01:43:41,040 --> 01:43:42,639
Speaker 1: You like him here as the underdog or he going

2189
01:43:42,720 --> 01:43:44,519
Speaker 1: prodo well? BP talked about it.

2190
01:43:44,600 --> 01:43:47,200
Speaker 5: You know, is Zar is kind of a one trick pony,

2191
01:43:47,240 --> 01:43:49,599
Speaker 5: and that's what concerns me most here. If he doesn't

2192
01:43:49,640 --> 01:43:52,559
Speaker 5: get the knockout and if he doesn't land that big shot,

2193
01:43:52,600 --> 01:43:54,040
Speaker 5: I don't know if he has a whole lot to

2194
01:43:54,640 --> 01:43:57,719
Speaker 5: fall back on after that. And I think Francisco Prato

2195
01:43:58,680 --> 01:44:02,360
Speaker 5: might be well round enough to test is Tar, especially

2196
01:44:02,479 --> 01:44:05,040
Speaker 5: on the ground. I think Proto's a problem on the feet,

2197
01:44:05,120 --> 01:44:08,120
Speaker 5: by the way, as well. But a concern of mine

2198
01:44:08,200 --> 01:44:11,479
Speaker 5: is what BP mentioned in regards to his experience. You know,

2199
01:44:11,600 --> 01:44:13,400
Speaker 5: he has a lot of great wins. Who is he

2200
01:44:13,520 --> 01:44:14,160
Speaker 5: beating though?

2201
01:44:14,600 --> 01:44:16,360
Speaker 1: But I do think that that.

2202
01:44:16,439 --> 01:44:20,080
Speaker 5: Fight against Malarkey sold me as far as you know,

2203
01:44:20,200 --> 01:44:22,479
Speaker 5: his ability to show up his ability to get in

2204
01:44:22,600 --> 01:44:25,400
Speaker 5: there and go fifteen hard minutes. Malarkey is not an

2205
01:44:25,439 --> 01:44:28,519
Speaker 5: easy out for anybody that that being your UFC debut,

2206
01:44:28,640 --> 01:44:30,559
Speaker 5: I thought actually impressed me in a lot of ways,

2207
01:44:30,560 --> 01:44:32,679
Speaker 5: and I know there's a lot that it can build from.

2208
01:44:33,120 --> 01:44:36,040
Speaker 5: I like Prodo here, I actually do. I think that

2209
01:44:36,360 --> 01:44:38,320
Speaker 5: he can get this to the ground. I think he

2210
01:44:38,400 --> 01:44:41,400
Speaker 5: could actually post some problems for is Tar on the

2211
01:44:41,479 --> 01:44:44,679
Speaker 5: feet as well. But similar to Terence McKinney, you gotta

2212
01:44:44,720 --> 01:44:47,960
Speaker 5: watch out for Isitar early in a fight. He brings

2213
01:44:48,000 --> 01:44:50,120
Speaker 5: a lot of firepower. He fights like he shot out

2214
01:44:50,120 --> 01:44:53,280
Speaker 5: of a cannon many times, so he has to be careful.

2215
01:44:53,560 --> 01:44:55,680
Speaker 5: But I think proto, if he's able to weather that

2216
01:44:55,920 --> 01:44:58,320
Speaker 5: first round storm, I think he could pull.

2217
01:44:58,240 --> 01:45:01,520
Speaker 1: This off nicely. Then we move along to the heavyweights.

2218
01:45:01,560 --> 01:45:04,920
Speaker 7: Walt Harris, now forty years of age minus one eighty

2219
01:45:05,080 --> 01:45:07,920
Speaker 7: taking on Josh Parisian, who is plus one fifty five.

2220
01:45:08,520 --> 01:45:11,439
Speaker 7: Last win for the big ticket came against Alexiolenoic that

2221
01:45:11,520 --> 01:45:15,680
Speaker 7: was July of twenty nineteen, his last fight more than

2222
01:45:15,720 --> 01:45:18,360
Speaker 7: two years ago, first round stoppage, lost to Marchin in

2223
01:45:18,400 --> 01:45:21,880
Speaker 7: Tobora June fifth, twenty twenty one. Brian Parisian a little

2224
01:45:21,880 --> 01:45:23,720
Speaker 7: bit of an uneven two and three start to his

2225
01:45:23,840 --> 01:45:27,879
Speaker 7: UFC career. Harris six and nine with one no contest

2226
01:45:27,960 --> 01:45:30,240
Speaker 7: in the UFC. More on Walt on the back end,

2227
01:45:30,320 --> 01:45:33,080
Speaker 7: But what are your thoughts on here, Harris about two

2228
01:45:33,080 --> 01:45:35,080
Speaker 7: to one against Josh Man.

2229
01:45:35,320 --> 01:45:37,360
Speaker 3: I mean, my if you look at but if you

2230
01:45:37,439 --> 01:45:40,000
Speaker 3: break down statistically what I what I've been doing this year,

2231
01:45:40,240 --> 01:45:42,080
Speaker 3: you should not be putting money on heavyweight becks for

2232
01:45:42,160 --> 01:45:44,400
Speaker 3: me because I am missing a lot. I look at

2233
01:45:44,439 --> 01:45:46,960
Speaker 3: this fight, listen, I like Walt Harris, right, he's explosive.

2234
01:45:46,960 --> 01:45:47,960
Speaker 1: Where's the Walt Harris?

2235
01:45:48,200 --> 01:45:50,320
Speaker 3: I know he's been through a lot and personally right,

2236
01:45:50,439 --> 01:45:53,280
Speaker 3: that's that's you know, that's horrible what happened to him

2237
01:45:53,640 --> 01:45:56,200
Speaker 3: a year or two ago. But the Walt Harris spont

2238
01:45:56,520 --> 01:45:59,000
Speaker 3: sgey spinback, what happened to that guy? The explosive of

2239
01:45:59,280 --> 01:46:01,519
Speaker 3: he's training with Jones. He is forty years old. But

2240
01:46:01,560 --> 01:46:04,120
Speaker 3: again at heavyweight, we're gonna left that one side. And

2241
01:46:04,240 --> 01:46:06,040
Speaker 3: Parisian is a guy who used to kind of use

2242
01:46:06,120 --> 01:46:09,040
Speaker 3: his length and volume to get guys. Not lately he's

2243
01:46:09,080 --> 01:46:10,680
Speaker 3: just been getting taken down in his other and not

2244
01:46:10,760 --> 01:46:13,800
Speaker 3: really been able to get off you know, I don't know.

2245
01:46:13,800 --> 01:46:14,320
Speaker 1: What to do here.

2246
01:46:14,320 --> 01:46:15,880
Speaker 3: I think Walt's gonna have a good first round, but

2247
01:46:15,920 --> 01:46:17,879
Speaker 3: I just think the number is too big on Parisian.

2248
01:46:17,880 --> 01:46:19,640
Speaker 3: I mean, this is a middling heavyweight fight. New of

2249
01:46:19,680 --> 01:46:22,479
Speaker 3: these guys are probably You're not being asshole, They're probably

2250
01:46:22,479 --> 01:46:24,559
Speaker 3: won't gonna make it to a title shot. So these

2251
01:46:24,560 --> 01:46:26,639
Speaker 3: are guys that you know, when they're middling heavyweight, you're

2252
01:46:26,640 --> 01:46:28,879
Speaker 3: gonna go dog for me. I'm gonna go dog by Parisian,

2253
01:46:29,280 --> 01:46:32,400
Speaker 3: probably by decision, maybe a late round stopper. Is because

2254
01:46:32,400 --> 01:46:34,880
Speaker 3: Walt's gas tank has been questionable. But again hopefully he's

2255
01:46:34,880 --> 01:46:37,640
Speaker 3: training with Moe Green and John Jones. He's getting all

2256
01:46:37,640 --> 01:46:40,080
Speaker 3: the wrestling in, but I just think the volume is

2257
01:46:40,080 --> 01:46:43,000
Speaker 3: gonna be too much for a Parisian. Yeah, on Presian sign,

2258
01:46:43,120 --> 01:46:45,920
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take another dog here maybe and give me

2259
01:46:46,000 --> 01:46:46,880
Speaker 3: Josh prison.

2260
01:46:46,800 --> 01:46:49,439
Speaker 7: Josh Perrisian plus one fifty five right now on DraftKings

2261
01:46:49,439 --> 01:46:51,679
Speaker 7: Sports Book, Kenny, it's hard to talk about Walt Harris.

2262
01:46:52,200 --> 01:46:54,040
Speaker 7: You and I called a lot of his early fights

2263
01:46:54,080 --> 01:46:57,280
Speaker 7: in the UFC, and I was really close with Walt.

2264
01:46:57,840 --> 01:46:59,800
Speaker 7: I haven't seen him a lot recently, but I can

2265
01:47:00,200 --> 01:47:03,519
Speaker 7: him a friend and when you look at the career trajectory, right,

2266
01:47:03,560 --> 01:47:07,120
Speaker 7: and you look back to December of twenty eighteen, the

2267
01:47:07,160 --> 01:47:09,839
Speaker 7: win over Andre ro Lovski overturned to a no contest.

2268
01:47:09,960 --> 01:47:13,439
Speaker 7: Then he stopped Sergey Spivok, stopped Alexiolenik, and then his

2269
01:47:13,600 --> 01:47:16,919
Speaker 7: daughter and I blanched as murdered October of twenty nineteen.

2270
01:47:17,560 --> 01:47:20,400
Speaker 7: And then he comes back, you know, seven months later

2271
01:47:20,479 --> 01:47:23,839
Speaker 7: against Alastair over him started well, but the emotional backdrop

2272
01:47:23,920 --> 01:47:26,519
Speaker 7: to that fight was just absurd. Then he stopped by Volkov,

2273
01:47:26,560 --> 01:47:31,559
Speaker 7: stopped Bitch Tabora, and I just cannot even grasp competing

2274
01:47:31,640 --> 01:47:36,479
Speaker 7: in combat sports after something like that happens. You know,

2275
01:47:36,720 --> 01:47:40,880
Speaker 7: time can help in some parts, I guess, and he's

2276
01:47:40,920 --> 01:47:44,479
Speaker 7: had more time remove now, but he's also forty years old.

2277
01:47:44,560 --> 01:47:47,720
Speaker 7: And I think, Kenny, if you critically look at it,

2278
01:47:47,800 --> 01:47:49,960
Speaker 7: six and nine with a no contest, relatives to the

2279
01:47:50,040 --> 01:47:52,639
Speaker 7: expectations for Walt Harris, not at all where people thought

2280
01:47:52,680 --> 01:47:55,799
Speaker 7: he would be. He played collegiate basketball at Jacksonville State University,

2281
01:47:55,880 --> 01:47:59,080
Speaker 7: is a great athlete and also sort of a lifelong

2282
01:47:59,200 --> 01:48:01,880
Speaker 7: martial artist like some of these other athletic heavyweights, right,

2283
01:48:01,920 --> 01:48:04,800
Speaker 7: Like he grew up a striker you know, my heart

2284
01:48:04,880 --> 01:48:06,559
Speaker 7: is obviously with Walt this weekend.

2285
01:48:06,960 --> 01:48:09,000
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on him here against Josh Perice.

2286
01:48:09,720 --> 01:48:14,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, that is a tremendous amount to deal with heading

2287
01:48:14,280 --> 01:48:17,639
Speaker 5: into any fight, and as you mentioned, it does take time.

2288
01:48:19,000 --> 01:48:22,880
Speaker 5: And I think also, you know, we forget that he's

2289
01:48:23,000 --> 01:48:26,080
Speaker 5: dealing with that, but also he has to be, you know,

2290
01:48:26,200 --> 01:48:29,559
Speaker 5: this strong pillar in the relationship, you know, for his wife,

2291
01:48:29,640 --> 01:48:32,519
Speaker 5: for the rest of the members and his family, and

2292
01:48:32,840 --> 01:48:37,000
Speaker 5: that is another burden yet still, so yeah, I can't

2293
01:48:37,000 --> 01:48:41,160
Speaker 5: even imagine. But for Walt Harris, you know, I think

2294
01:48:41,280 --> 01:48:43,439
Speaker 5: that this is actually a good fight for him in

2295
01:48:43,439 --> 01:48:45,639
Speaker 5: a lot of ways. I think that, you know, both

2296
01:48:45,680 --> 01:48:49,719
Speaker 5: these are two guys that have had some inconsistent results,

2297
01:48:50,120 --> 01:48:54,280
Speaker 5: that have shown a potential in spurts over the course

2298
01:48:54,320 --> 01:48:57,280
Speaker 5: of their career, over the course of certain fights. But

2299
01:48:57,360 --> 01:48:59,880
Speaker 5: I think for Walt Harris, I think he's positioned well

2300
01:49:00,960 --> 01:49:04,559
Speaker 5: to get a win here and potentially start a winning

2301
01:49:04,640 --> 01:49:07,280
Speaker 5: streak here. I think that he does a lot of

2302
01:49:07,400 --> 01:49:10,439
Speaker 5: things better than Presian. I think that he's got to

2303
01:49:10,479 --> 01:49:14,240
Speaker 5: be careful with managing his energy. Sometimes we see Walt

2304
01:49:14,280 --> 01:49:16,920
Speaker 5: Harris start off hot and then kind of fade, So

2305
01:49:17,040 --> 01:49:18,719
Speaker 5: I think he just has to be able to manage

2306
01:49:18,760 --> 01:49:23,040
Speaker 5: his energy and be disciplined throughout this fifteen minutes here

2307
01:49:23,360 --> 01:49:25,840
Speaker 5: and heavyweights, you land one shot, you get knocked out,

2308
01:49:25,840 --> 01:49:28,800
Speaker 5: it's all over. So discipline is going to play a

2309
01:49:28,840 --> 01:49:31,080
Speaker 5: big part here. But I think for Walt Harris, I

2310
01:49:31,360 --> 01:49:34,360
Speaker 5: like him here in this spot. I'm going to put

2311
01:49:34,400 --> 01:49:39,599
Speaker 5: another two units on Walt Harris. I hope he does

2312
01:49:39,680 --> 01:49:41,840
Speaker 5: well here. Appreciate is a good fighter, but I think

2313
01:49:42,280 --> 01:49:44,080
Speaker 5: Walt Harris can can pull it off.

2314
01:49:44,600 --> 01:49:46,880
Speaker 3: Kenzo's that fucking round for.

2315
01:49:47,040 --> 01:49:50,120
Speaker 7: Clarification purposes when you say, do you want a two

2316
01:49:50,320 --> 01:49:51,559
Speaker 7: unit or three unit?

2317
01:49:51,960 --> 01:49:52,439
Speaker 1: Two? Two?

2318
01:49:52,760 --> 01:49:52,960
Speaker 6: Yeah?

2319
01:49:53,040 --> 01:49:53,240
Speaker 1: Cool?

2320
01:49:53,320 --> 01:49:55,960
Speaker 7: All right, So that is a three hundred and sixty

2321
01:49:56,040 --> 01:49:59,080
Speaker 7: dollars bet to win two hundred on Walt Harris. All right,

2322
01:49:59,160 --> 01:50:02,040
Speaker 7: comin event to wait and by the way, Kenny's gonna

2323
01:50:02,080 --> 01:50:03,960
Speaker 7: lead us on the main event, but BP take us

2324
01:50:04,000 --> 01:50:06,880
Speaker 7: through the Komain South Korea's Jinyong Park minus one fifty

2325
01:50:07,160 --> 01:50:11,960
Speaker 7: Albert Dorjeb plus one thirty Iron Turtle the chock favorite here.

2326
01:50:12,479 --> 01:50:15,400
Speaker 7: Pretty good body of work. Brye six and two. UFC's

2327
01:50:15,400 --> 01:50:17,760
Speaker 7: won three in a row, two straight by submission, six

2328
01:50:17,840 --> 01:50:20,360
Speaker 7: of his last seven on the cusp of the rankings.

2329
01:50:20,800 --> 01:50:23,519
Speaker 7: He draws Albert Dorjeb, who comes in following a split

2330
01:50:23,560 --> 01:50:25,920
Speaker 7: decision win over Chitty and Hikuwani March twenty fifth, who

2331
01:50:25,920 --> 01:50:26,800
Speaker 7: wins the comain event.

2332
01:50:27,280 --> 01:50:29,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, so this is a due where I have who

2333
01:50:29,320 --> 01:50:31,200
Speaker 3: came in hot off the Contender series, and this is

2334
01:50:31,200 --> 01:50:34,800
Speaker 3: the UFC in my opinion, going all right, not uppercent bro,

2335
01:50:35,040 --> 01:50:38,040
Speaker 3: like you were this guy that we like. You drop

2336
01:50:38,160 --> 01:50:41,280
Speaker 3: one to the buckley. You have a tidle outside the UFC. Right,

2337
01:50:41,320 --> 01:50:44,240
Speaker 3: you got a dope topology picture. Here's the Iron Turtle.

2338
01:50:44,520 --> 01:50:46,519
Speaker 3: Here's a fringe guy ready to make top fifteen. Can

2339
01:50:46,560 --> 01:50:48,479
Speaker 3: he get through him? And when I look at the

2340
01:50:48,520 --> 01:50:50,720
Speaker 3: Iron Turtle, he's got some of the good wins, but

2341
01:50:50,800 --> 01:50:53,479
Speaker 3: he's fight so frustrating to me sometimes, Like he's a

2342
01:50:53,520 --> 01:50:55,800
Speaker 3: good striker, he's got a great chin, but he a

2343
01:50:55,840 --> 01:50:57,960
Speaker 3: lot of times he likes his wall you know, wall install.

2344
01:50:58,000 --> 01:50:59,920
Speaker 3: He likes to clinch, he likes to grapple. You tried

2345
01:51:00,000 --> 01:51:01,800
Speaker 3: taking down There's not a lot of action and then

2346
01:51:01,840 --> 01:51:03,720
Speaker 3: he'll kind of squeak out a decision or maybe lose

2347
01:51:03,760 --> 01:51:06,080
Speaker 3: the decision. I don't think he's gonna be able to outgrapple,

2348
01:51:06,120 --> 01:51:08,800
Speaker 3: do V here? I am a little concerned because a

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01:51:08,880 --> 01:51:10,680
Speaker 3: lot of his losses come by knockout. He is a

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01:51:10,760 --> 01:51:13,519
Speaker 3: guy that does not like being the nail. I not

2351
01:51:13,560 --> 01:51:15,760
Speaker 3: gonna throw the chinning word around, but they could be right.

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01:51:16,520 --> 01:51:18,840
Speaker 3: But I think he's got better better grappling if if

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01:51:18,880 --> 01:51:21,479
Speaker 3: the iron turtles sides to grapple, and I think then

2354
01:51:21,560 --> 01:51:23,559
Speaker 3: the stand up. I think if you wants to switch levels,

2355
01:51:23,560 --> 01:51:25,439
Speaker 3: he's more explosive. He can get him downe as well.

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01:51:25,960 --> 01:51:28,040
Speaker 3: And again I'm just I'm just seeing the board here.

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01:51:28,080 --> 01:51:30,880
Speaker 3: They're all barking at me that my boy is barking,

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01:51:30,960 --> 01:51:32,519
Speaker 3: So I'm going to your IV here for as a

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01:51:32,560 --> 01:51:34,960
Speaker 3: dog shot. Again, I think it's gonna be a very

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01:51:35,000 --> 01:51:36,919
Speaker 3: close fight. I think I'm gonna bet this by decision,

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01:51:37,200 --> 01:51:39,640
Speaker 3: maybe like split decision or something like that, because you know,

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01:51:39,720 --> 01:51:41,360
Speaker 3: with these judges, we don't know what we're gonna get.

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01:51:41,439 --> 01:51:44,320
Speaker 3: But uh, I see it being a very competitive close fight.

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01:51:44,960 --> 01:51:47,479
Speaker 7: Sometimes you're just seeing the board well, and I hope

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01:51:47,520 --> 01:51:50,240
Speaker 7: all the plus numbers come through for you can flow

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01:51:50,280 --> 01:51:53,479
Speaker 7: home man event Albert Doi plus one thirty, Jin Yong

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01:51:53,640 --> 01:51:54,880
Speaker 7: Park minus one fifty.

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01:51:54,920 --> 01:51:57,280
Speaker 1: Which way you're going? Yeah, I thought that was a

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01:51:57,320 --> 01:52:02,320
Speaker 1: great breakdown. Brian I think that right. Douraev, I think

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01:52:02,400 --> 01:52:04,559
Speaker 1: he's got more ways to win in this one.

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01:52:04,680 --> 01:52:06,599
Speaker 5: I think John Young Park I think he's a good

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01:52:06,840 --> 01:52:09,800
Speaker 5: overall mixed martial artist, no question about it. But as

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01:52:09,920 --> 01:52:12,600
Speaker 5: when I look at finishing prowess, you know, with his

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01:52:12,680 --> 01:52:15,519
Speaker 5: submissions or with his striking, I don't see him having

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01:52:15,680 --> 01:52:19,439
Speaker 5: that crazy knockout power. Maybe I'm wrong on that, and

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01:52:19,600 --> 01:52:21,559
Speaker 5: and certainly anyone can be knocked out, but I don't

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01:52:21,560 --> 01:52:22,320
Speaker 5: see him being.

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01:52:22,280 --> 01:52:25,320
Speaker 1: That big threat for the finish when it comes to

2379
01:52:25,400 --> 01:52:26,240
Speaker 1: submissions or.

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01:52:28,000 --> 01:52:31,920
Speaker 5: On the feet here against Duriev anyway, I do think

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01:52:32,040 --> 01:52:35,080
Speaker 5: Doaev could get a submission. I do think also he's

2382
01:52:35,120 --> 01:52:37,280
Speaker 5: got the power to maybe get a knockout as well,

2383
01:52:38,000 --> 01:52:39,040
Speaker 5: is he I don't know.

2384
01:52:39,200 --> 01:52:41,280
Speaker 1: I think it most likely will go to decision.

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01:52:41,560 --> 01:52:44,360
Speaker 5: I think John Young Park is very good at winning rounds,

2386
01:52:44,439 --> 01:52:48,280
Speaker 5: but against Douriev, I think the effectiveness of his striking,

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01:52:48,360 --> 01:52:51,240
Speaker 5: the effectiveness of his grappling will probably be the difference.

2388
01:52:51,280 --> 01:52:54,240
Speaker 5: I think he's just better in those two realms, you know,

2389
01:52:54,760 --> 01:52:58,000
Speaker 5: But I think sometimes he just makes some uh you know,

2390
01:52:58,160 --> 01:53:01,439
Speaker 5: questionable decisions in fights. So fully he's you know, getting

2391
01:53:01,520 --> 01:53:04,720
Speaker 5: that experience to be more you know, to have that

2392
01:53:04,800 --> 01:53:07,479
Speaker 5: octing on feel like it's more his home. So I

2393
01:53:07,600 --> 01:53:10,040
Speaker 5: do like du Rajev, I need points, give me another

2394
01:53:10,160 --> 01:53:13,719
Speaker 5: unit on do Rajev to get it done. As the underdog,

2395
01:53:13,800 --> 01:53:15,360
Speaker 5: I'm using all my units today.

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01:53:15,360 --> 01:53:19,439
Speaker 3: This fucking guy is not messing around. I gotta let

2397
01:53:19,479 --> 01:53:23,400
Speaker 3: the hands got. I'm gonna put mys on. When you're

2398
01:53:23,479 --> 01:53:25,760
Speaker 3: down like this, either you freeze up and you just play.

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01:53:25,840 --> 01:53:27,080
Speaker 3: Consider fucking love it.

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01:53:27,400 --> 01:53:29,280
Speaker 1: I gotta let the hands go. It's the final.

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01:53:29,680 --> 01:53:31,960
Speaker 3: I gotta I fucking love this.

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01:53:32,560 --> 01:53:35,120
Speaker 1: I love it all right, Well, let's go right back

2403
01:53:35,160 --> 01:53:35,479
Speaker 1: to him.

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01:53:35,520 --> 01:53:38,320
Speaker 7: Main event Women's bandon weight division Holly Holm minus one

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01:53:38,400 --> 01:53:43,559
Speaker 7: fifty five Maita Buenos Silva plus one thirty five home. Really,

2406
01:53:43,640 --> 01:53:45,840
Speaker 7: Kenny is so much better than her eight and six

2407
01:53:46,000 --> 01:53:48,000
Speaker 7: UFC record suggests.

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01:53:47,560 --> 01:53:48,120
Speaker 1: In my mind.

2409
01:53:48,160 --> 01:53:50,800
Speaker 7: At least outpointed Gianna Santo's back in March. She's won

2410
01:53:50,960 --> 01:53:54,559
Speaker 7: three of four that sandwiched around of twenty twenty two

2411
01:53:54,560 --> 01:53:57,000
Speaker 7: to five round split loss to Kaitlyn vieta fight in

2412
01:53:57,040 --> 01:54:00,760
Speaker 7: which she was competitive and thought she won she did,

2413
01:54:00,840 --> 01:54:03,080
Speaker 7: I'm not saying I did. On the other side, Maita

2414
01:54:03,160 --> 01:54:05,240
Speaker 7: Bueno five two and one in the UFC, she's been

2415
01:54:05,320 --> 01:54:08,719
Speaker 7: very active Kenny. Two straight submission wins, three straight wins overall,

2416
01:54:09,120 --> 01:54:11,920
Speaker 7: that's serving to position her for her first UFC main

2417
01:54:11,960 --> 01:54:13,920
Speaker 7: event against a former world champion.

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01:54:14,120 --> 01:54:16,639
Speaker 5: Your thoughts, Yeah, this is an interesting fight. I think

2419
01:54:16,680 --> 01:54:20,200
Speaker 5: that Holly can be in the driver's seat though. I

2420
01:54:20,280 --> 01:54:23,760
Speaker 5: think that her ability to outpoint her to get in

2421
01:54:23,920 --> 01:54:27,800
Speaker 5: and get out and stop the takedowns, that's gonna be key.

2422
01:54:27,920 --> 01:54:29,559
Speaker 5: She's going to have to keep this on the feet.

2423
01:54:29,880 --> 01:54:32,080
Speaker 5: If she's able to go to the ground, she needs

2424
01:54:32,120 --> 01:54:34,320
Speaker 5: to be the one that's on top, utilizing her ground

2425
01:54:34,400 --> 01:54:37,000
Speaker 5: and pound. She can't get too fancy though with her grappling.

2426
01:54:37,360 --> 01:54:39,760
Speaker 5: You know, if she tries to exchange too much, Maita

2427
01:54:40,280 --> 01:54:42,280
Speaker 5: may be able to hit some kind of submission or

2428
01:54:42,320 --> 01:54:43,080
Speaker 5: reversal where.

2429
01:54:42,960 --> 01:54:43,760
Speaker 1: She gets on top.

2430
01:54:44,120 --> 01:54:47,520
Speaker 5: But I think Holly, you know you mentioned her record

2431
01:54:47,560 --> 01:54:49,680
Speaker 5: and how she's much better than her record. I think

2432
01:54:49,720 --> 01:54:52,800
Speaker 5: she's way better a fighter than what she shows. And

2433
01:54:52,840 --> 01:54:54,320
Speaker 5: I think a lot of that has to do with

2434
01:54:54,440 --> 01:54:58,080
Speaker 5: her nervousness, that nervous energy, that tension that she brings

2435
01:54:58,160 --> 01:55:00,560
Speaker 5: into the cage. And it's odd because because she has

2436
01:55:00,680 --> 01:55:04,040
Speaker 5: so much experience as a boxer, as a mixed martial

2437
01:55:04,120 --> 01:55:06,640
Speaker 5: artist now, but she just needs to let go and

2438
01:55:06,800 --> 01:55:09,920
Speaker 5: let her skills shine, and we just haven't seen that.

2439
01:55:10,040 --> 01:55:13,280
Speaker 5: I think that's kind of been her biggest hurdle in

2440
01:55:13,400 --> 01:55:16,680
Speaker 5: her mixed martial arts career. But I do think she

2441
01:55:16,800 --> 01:55:18,640
Speaker 5: has the skills to get it done here. She's got

2442
01:55:18,760 --> 01:55:21,440
Speaker 5: to be able to let her strike, get in, get out,

2443
01:55:21,600 --> 01:55:24,040
Speaker 5: stop the takedowns. If she's able to do that and

2444
01:55:24,160 --> 01:55:26,280
Speaker 5: win these exchanges in the clinch, I think she could

2445
01:55:26,280 --> 01:55:28,360
Speaker 5: do that. I think she's a better striker. You have

2446
01:55:28,480 --> 01:55:31,600
Speaker 5: to watch out for Maita. She's definitely a finisher. She

2447
01:55:31,760 --> 01:55:34,680
Speaker 5: can be crafty at points, but I think Holly just

2448
01:55:35,720 --> 01:55:36,960
Speaker 5: is going to be a little bit too much. I

2449
01:55:37,040 --> 01:55:38,520
Speaker 5: think Holly wins the decision here.

2450
01:55:39,360 --> 01:55:41,240
Speaker 1: Brian, what do you think about the main event this weekend?

2451
01:55:41,800 --> 01:55:44,080
Speaker 3: Does Holly Holm have a contract that stays as he

2452
01:55:44,320 --> 01:55:46,880
Speaker 3: only fights and fight night main events, because that's like

2453
01:55:47,000 --> 01:55:50,240
Speaker 3: all this a lot of apex miles, a lot of

2454
01:55:50,280 --> 01:55:54,040
Speaker 3: Haypex miles with her. I love Holly Hold. I remember

2455
01:55:54,120 --> 01:55:56,080
Speaker 3: Holly Holm like when I was like kind of a

2456
01:55:56,160 --> 01:55:59,920
Speaker 3: friends boxing guy watching boxing and I'm like, man's really tough.

2457
01:56:00,120 --> 01:56:02,360
Speaker 3: She came out of the UFC. Lately though she's been

2458
01:56:02,440 --> 01:56:05,440
Speaker 3: crashing into her punches and really exchanging in the clinch game,

2459
01:56:05,480 --> 01:56:08,080
Speaker 3: and she likes taking people down there. Her cardios elite,

2460
01:56:08,160 --> 01:56:10,600
Speaker 3: she's forty and her fortyes I'm exactly old she is,

2461
01:56:10,640 --> 01:56:13,440
Speaker 3: but you know her cardios elite, she's in elite shape

2462
01:56:13,480 --> 01:56:13,840
Speaker 3: and this is.

2463
01:56:13,800 --> 01:56:14,920
Speaker 1: A big step up for Silva.

2464
01:56:15,000 --> 01:56:17,480
Speaker 3: Silva has looked good her last time out, two submission

2465
01:56:17,520 --> 01:56:19,720
Speaker 3: wins over pretty good competition. But I go back to

2466
01:56:19,800 --> 01:56:22,280
Speaker 3: the Montana de la Rosa fight, and that one bothers me.

2467
01:56:22,360 --> 01:56:25,640
Speaker 3: Montana Rolla Rosa is a great fighter, but she's never

2468
01:56:25,680 --> 01:56:27,480
Speaker 3: really had the success in the UFC, and she kind

2469
01:56:27,520 --> 01:56:30,240
Speaker 3: of did exactly what Holly Holm could do in this fight.

2470
01:56:30,560 --> 01:56:33,760
Speaker 3: Silva sometimes doesn't have enough volume. She has volume early

2471
01:56:33,800 --> 01:56:35,400
Speaker 3: in the UFC career, and she's kind of laid off.

2472
01:56:35,480 --> 01:56:37,160
Speaker 3: She's been more of a one trick pony. Wanted to

2473
01:56:37,160 --> 01:56:38,760
Speaker 3: get a fight to the ground. Holly is hard to

2474
01:56:38,800 --> 01:56:41,680
Speaker 3: take to the ground. She's big, she's athletics, she's strong

2475
01:56:41,760 --> 01:56:44,080
Speaker 3: in there. I think Holly's gonna win a decision here,

2476
01:56:45,560 --> 01:56:48,480
Speaker 3: and I think it's gonna be you know, it's gonna

2477
01:56:48,480 --> 01:56:50,200
Speaker 3: be a typical Holly Home fight. I want her to

2478
01:56:50,280 --> 01:56:52,480
Speaker 3: let her hands go because Silva is hittable, and if

2479
01:56:52,520 --> 01:56:55,720
Speaker 3: Holly can really keep it range and not crash in

2480
01:56:55,800 --> 01:56:57,360
Speaker 3: so much on our punches, I think she can really

2481
01:56:57,400 --> 01:56:59,320
Speaker 3: have a good night. But give me Holly home for

2482
01:56:59,720 --> 01:57:02,280
Speaker 3: a up here. Nice job with the film study on that.

2483
01:57:02,400 --> 01:57:04,120
Speaker 3: I like the comp before I let you go.

2484
01:57:04,240 --> 01:57:07,160
Speaker 7: Any other selection JFC fight at Home versus Buenos Silva,

2485
01:57:07,200 --> 01:57:07,800
Speaker 7: anything else?

2486
01:57:08,480 --> 01:57:11,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, you would like to wet your beacon for our viewership.

2487
01:57:11,960 --> 01:57:14,280
Speaker 3: Go ahead. So, so there's two, but I'm going to

2488
01:57:14,360 --> 01:57:16,720
Speaker 3: give you the one for it to count, and I'll

2489
01:57:16,720 --> 01:57:18,280
Speaker 3: give the fans the other one that I really like.

2490
01:57:18,600 --> 01:57:19,800
Speaker 3: So this is kind of a two for for you

2491
01:57:19,840 --> 01:57:21,520
Speaker 3: guys because I don't know how to pronounce this guy's name.

2492
01:57:21,520 --> 01:57:23,720
Speaker 3: This should be really fun for you guys. I'm gonna

2493
01:57:23,720 --> 01:57:27,000
Speaker 3: go Melsick bog Dasarian. Did I get close to that?

2494
01:57:27,160 --> 01:57:27,400
Speaker 8: John?

2495
01:57:27,720 --> 01:57:27,960
Speaker 1: Yep?

2496
01:57:28,400 --> 01:57:30,640
Speaker 3: Okay? Good? So I like Melsey go over Tucker lots here.

2497
01:57:30,680 --> 01:57:32,280
Speaker 3: I think that that could be a lock of the card.

2498
01:57:32,320 --> 01:57:34,720
Speaker 3: I think Tucker's really kind of falling flat and you'll see.

2499
01:57:34,760 --> 01:57:36,920
Speaker 3: And I like big norm Norma Dumont. That won't count.

2500
01:57:37,160 --> 01:57:39,800
Speaker 3: That's for the fans out there. She's fighting Chelsea Chandler

2501
01:57:39,840 --> 01:57:43,120
Speaker 3: who's two o nine bread stocked and bred. I think

2502
01:57:43,160 --> 01:57:44,760
Speaker 3: it's too much with Chelsea Chandler. I think I like

2503
01:57:44,840 --> 01:57:47,240
Speaker 3: big Norm as well. Give me Norma Dumont, Norma.

2504
01:57:47,080 --> 01:57:50,120
Speaker 7: Dumont fighting Chelsea Chandler on the main card. I'm just

2505
01:57:50,200 --> 01:57:52,560
Speaker 7: getting a price here, at least on DraftKings right now

2506
01:57:52,640 --> 01:57:59,440
Speaker 7: minus two fifteen Melsick bog Dsaurian all right, Bryan bog Dsorian. No,

2507
01:57:59,560 --> 01:58:03,480
Speaker 7: Brian will follow you on social media at Brian Petree

2508
01:58:03,560 --> 01:58:06,800
Speaker 7: MMA and love you buddy. Have a great fucking week

2509
01:58:06,880 --> 01:58:08,720
Speaker 7: and we will talk to you next week. Is the

2510
01:58:08,800 --> 01:58:10,760
Speaker 7: hits keep on coming in London, England?

2511
01:58:10,800 --> 01:58:12,240
Speaker 1: My man, Let's go boys.

2512
01:58:12,280 --> 01:58:14,040
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me. I'll see you next week.

2513
01:58:14,560 --> 01:58:14,840
Speaker 1: All right.

2514
01:58:14,880 --> 01:58:16,720
Speaker 7: Brian Petree with us for the main event challenge and

2515
01:58:16,760 --> 01:58:18,080
Speaker 7: that is going to do it. Hope you enjoyed our

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Speaker 7: UFC two ninety recap, humbly. I think that's some of

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Speaker 7: at Anti Florian Pod. Thank you to very long gooing

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Speaker 7: Brian Petrie. Our producer is Cody Merrow. We will talk

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Speaker 7: to you shortly probably next Monday. Might be back this

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Speaker 7: Thursday with Pahoopa and or Pantosa to stay tuned to

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Speaker 7: podcast listenership, all of you coming up to us in

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Speaker 1: One of you. We're here for you.

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Speaker 7: Plenty more of that came from next Monday, so that

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Speaker 7: you're fucking lies.

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Speaker 6: Dun down.

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Speaker 1: Bar down down.

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Speaker 6: A bar down down dun dundus, dundus turn does dunn

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Speaker 6: dun dus. They won't have brown of down out. They

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