1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL podcast. Always heeds the call, unless 2 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: it's Mark calling for him to her real from the 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: Chris Westling Podcast studio. It's Around the NFL, Dan Hansas 4 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: twenty two and a half minute late start here, so 5 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: watch out from Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal, and Yes back 6 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: in studio for the first time in too long. The Woman, 7 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: the Myth, the Legend, Tiny Box. It's great to be back. 8 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: Nothing has changed. I'm not doing good today. I mean, 9 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: how is that different than most days? It does feel 10 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: a little different though, I physically feel like a train wreck, 11 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: and it's it's the thing is that I was feeling 12 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 1: about find about two hours ago, and it's just like 13 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: to steady to climb downhill again. We had discussed earlier 14 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: today that after today's taping we might do some clerical 15 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: work behind the scenes. We've got playing some shows out 16 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: do some other. I think we might get another cartoon 17 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: feet running out towards the parking lot in the car 18 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: appealing out scenario for our colleague Mark. Well for my 19 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: well being. Wow, welcome back to the show. You know 20 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: it's good to be home, home being the studio like 21 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: me in real life. The idea of a nice like relaxing. 22 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: Fun time is sitting on the couch, maybe a t 23 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: do's with my wife watching something on TV. Yeah, so 24 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,119 Speaker 1: I feel about sometimes we go to rams Camp. Great 25 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 1: time at rams Camp, I thought. I like being home. 26 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: That's where I like hanging out. I like hanging out 27 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: with a couple of friends at home. That's my thing. 28 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: I haven't seen you guys at your house in a while. 29 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: It's been a minute. Like and when I say your house, 30 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: I mean the studio wrestling past. It's been too long. 31 00:01:55,640 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: You've been gallivanting all over training Camp America and you're 32 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: going to Minnesota tomorrow, so it's not over yet. How's 33 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: it been going, I've been, you've been. We're going to 34 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: talk about it in today's show. You've hit uh several 35 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: stops already, so we'll get some of your camp takeaways. 36 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,239 Speaker 1: But how you doing this travel life? Yeah, it's good. 37 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: It's hot, real hot everywhere. A lot of bugs love sweating, 38 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: and so it's been super glamorous. I can tell you 39 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: that that's good. That's good. By the way, um Me 40 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: and Connie announcement. I have an announcement we haven't announced 41 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: as teased last week. Um Hard knocks is back this 42 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: week covering the Detroit Lines, and for the past ten 43 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 1: years on NFL dot Com, I have handled the weekly 44 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: recaps of Hard Knocks. I have passed the reins on 45 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,679 Speaker 1: that particular project, but I am not out of the 46 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: Hard Knocks game because me and the Tiny Box Connie 47 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: Fox will be launching a Hard Knocks podcast. Oh yeah, 48 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: I love it. How you like that. It's been a 49 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: decade in the making. We have put so much planning 50 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: into this. We've really been talking about it for a 51 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 1: very long time. It's kind of true. Five years ago, 52 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: I think six years ago, we tried to get some 53 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 1: shadowy League figures to let us do the do it 54 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: and I don't know, maybe it was a cloud deficiency 55 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: at the time. This time we pitched it, people were 56 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: into it, and uh, you don't have to look hard 57 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 1: for it. Listeners if you're interested, because it's gonna drop 58 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: right into the A t N feed tomorrow night, every 59 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: Tuesday night, the Hard Knocks recap for the next five weeks. 60 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: I'm excited and now we can I can listen on 61 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: the way into work the next day and not even 62 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: watch Hard Knocks. No, of course I'm gonna watch har Knocks. 63 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: I love Hard Knocks, but if you don't have time 64 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: to watch the test, this year will be can they 65 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: keep the audience me uh through the final episode? Because 66 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: they do feel like the last couple of seasons my 67 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: interest started fading a little bit late in the season. 68 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: It's a challenge. Yeah, Dan Campbell, that's a personality enough 69 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: to keep a whole season going. That's the last episode 70 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: traditionally to me is the most compelling because it's with 71 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: the whether you know, speaking of Dan Campbell, this would 72 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: be kind of my overall thought heading into this season 73 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 1: or Hard Knocks, that you have to go back to 74 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: maybe Rex back in two thousand ten to see such 75 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 1: a clear obvious star of the show at head coach 76 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: um and kind of you sent this to me last night. 77 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 1: This is this is again Dan Campbell sounding like completely 78 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 1: like a professional wrestler addressing the crowd at Ford Field 79 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: during their scrimmage this week. And this is the guy 80 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: that has the chance to be an iconic Hard Knocks star. 81 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: Let's listening. I'll tell you what you would give your 82 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,799 Speaker 1: code in winter? You would give your coach to somebody 83 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: in winter that needed it. Man, That's what this community 84 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: is about. However, however, however, nobody will take advantage of 85 00:04:56,320 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: our hospitality, my body. So that's who we're about. That's 86 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: what we're about. This team is working the rear off 87 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 1: to give you something to be proud of. All right. 88 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: They're grinding it out right now, and I know this. 89 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: We are freaking starving. We are starving. So the hyaenas 90 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: better get out of the way, all right, ma'am. I 91 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 1: find them very enjoyable. Someone get him a cliff bar 92 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: or something like that was still people. Yeah, So that 93 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 1: that shows that Dan Campbell is doing something right. I 94 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: don't think Matt Patricia was getting even the brakes and 95 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: his cadence. That is how the Rock would address an 96 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: audience from the Squared Circle in two thousand one. There's 97 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 1: definitely that vibe in that charisma with Campbell, like Rock 98 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: could deliver a speech that was probably half written for him. 99 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 1: Some of that delivery went on went a little south. 100 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 1: I do have a question, Connie, is a big your 101 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: big preparation person. You're gonna be doing this right as 102 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: the show raps, You're gonna jump on and do How 103 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: is the show structured? Is it just going to be 104 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 1: like a diving in here getting the weeds. I love it. 105 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 1: I love it. I don't know, um wondering have been 106 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: any discussion about structure. Yeah, you know we're going to 107 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: get a screener or working with the people that the 108 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: films teams in the film's team is producing obviously Hard Knocks, 109 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: and we've been communicating with them, so we'll have our 110 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 1: we'll be able to watch it before the episode airs, 111 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: record our podcast, schedule it so it comes out right 112 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 1: as Hard Knocks. He's I'm as excited for the Lions 113 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: as I have been for Hard Knocks in a while. 114 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: Although I think you ignored one coach who kind of 115 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 1: commanded the center I'm not gonna step on your jokes 116 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 1: screen here and really was the start, and that was 117 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:54,799 Speaker 1: Joe Philbin. I was, though you're gonna say, Mike Smith, 118 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: I never know how to say it right. A lot 119 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 1: to get into Greggy has a banger? What is it? 120 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: Fifty two? What did you come down with fifty two? 121 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: Takeaways takeaways from I don't know, things we've learned this 122 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: past weekend. A lot of teams had their scrimmages at 123 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: the stadiums and all that stuff, so so takeaways there. 124 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: Connie also going to share her I'm gonna call it 125 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: camp check ins with within that Realm will also bring 126 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: back her old quotable segment with Grave Digger that at 127 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: the end. But before that, let's get caught up with 128 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: some news. Did you well, hopefully nobody cries around here 129 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: because of these sunglasses and you're the best. Thank you, 130 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: my friend. It was more of a visual thing I 131 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: think doesn't translate as well when it's just your sunglasses. 132 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: Had a macho man. He was trying to take a 133 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: shot at my sunglasses, which I love those sunglasses, so 134 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: I was happy that he was drawing attention to couldn't 135 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 1: I couldn't get enough of that, And thank you to Mark. 136 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: I don't know what was going on this weekend, but 137 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: so much, so many dispatches about NFL network from you, 138 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: whether it was on social media or private text. One 139 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: of those one of those weird weekends when Mark was like, 140 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: wagh in on our network and he's like, man, this 141 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: Sam Mills football, I have really jumping off. Well alright, 142 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: So I that's indicator that I did not do much 143 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: this weekend. I watched a lot of I sat, I 144 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: did what you did, sitting on the couch with your wife, 145 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: but with alone watching network television with your wife. That's 146 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 1: been used in the past. You know, that's one of 147 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,959 Speaker 1: my favorite Do you have any critiques from what you 148 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 1: saw this past weekend. I don't have critiques. I thought, 149 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: like number one, like, I do think the training camp 150 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 1: coverage has gotten better than where we were four or 151 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 1: five years ago. Really, that's a great new I do 152 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: put it on a billboard. Watching an incredible amount of 153 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: NFL network this month. Um you Sometimes in the past 154 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: you've been critical of the I would say forced jocularity. 155 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,199 Speaker 1: So maybe there's hasn't been as much as that. It's 156 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: been toned down, which I which I appreciate because if 157 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,199 Speaker 1: it were at the previous level, I would turn the 158 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: television like if you've got Connie involved, like, it's gonna 159 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: be great. You can you can handle that. It's sometimes 160 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 1: people outside of their you know, wheelhouse being trying to 161 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: be funny. My kids know Connie. They're like, oh, that's 162 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: the lady with the dogs, So they know who you are. 163 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: I mean, they've seen you more more than a couple 164 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: of times. And seriously, Mark, stay away from my wife. 165 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: What I'm friends with your with your wife? How close 166 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 1: are you guys, we're friends. There's too many comments to 167 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 1: read into at this point. Graver is really you gotta 168 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: keep away from Yeah? Gravers like, hey, just a heads up, guys, 169 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: it's my girlfriend's birthday. I'm like really, And then oh yeah, 170 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: what's your name again? How did you say it? Justin 171 00:09:55,160 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: you're asking me to say it? Her name is Jessica 172 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: Hunt's not how you said it, though you said it 173 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: like this, Jessica, there was a real effect to it. 174 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: And you're and you're going on a trip with her. 175 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: I believe it's that correct. We are this upcoming weekend. 176 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 1: We're going on a little trip, mini vacation before the season. 177 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 1: Jessica slightly romantic. Let's get to the news. The Browns 178 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 1: and Kareem Hunt. Hey, listen, I guess it's progress. We're 179 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 1: not going to talk about the other guy with the Browns, 180 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 1: but still this isn't a great story. Um for the 181 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: Browns who have a running back and Cream Hunt, who's 182 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: behind Nick Chubb on the depth chart but obviously a 183 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: very important player. Um. He is looking for a trade, 184 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: he's looking to get out of town. He wants a 185 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 1: fresh start. According to reports, Brown's head coach Kevin Stefanski 186 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: um not happy about Hunt staging a hold in during 187 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 1: the first week of training camp. And uh, that's because Hunt, 188 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 1: I guess he is looking to move on Mark He's 189 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: got one more year on his deal. But it doesn't 190 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: seemed like the Browns have a lot of reason to 191 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: move them at this time. They're not trading him. I 192 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 1: mean they he's back at practice. They basically shut the 193 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: whole thing down and find him and he's working again. 194 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: And to me, it's absurd, like, first of all, how 195 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 1: much money are you supposed to dedicate to your running 196 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: back room. They they have a great backup in Deernest Johnson, 197 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: who who in two games last year showed up and 198 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: showed well, and they've given Nick Chobb a bunch of 199 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 1: money and so Kareem Hunt is out of luck on 200 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 1: this one. He also, you know, sorry, but he missed 201 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: nine games last year. He wasn't that productive for them, 202 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: and it's like he's not an indispensable player. They will 203 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: move on and find a younger running back if they 204 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,839 Speaker 1: need to know. This was the most unsuccessful holding in 205 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: hold in history. He started it because it's really only 206 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 1: a couple of years old. The holding and Uh. He 207 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: started it on Friday. Uh. He was back to practice 208 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: on Monday because they immediately started finding him. They said, 209 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: we're not going to trade you, we're not going to 210 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: give you a raise either. He brought he went into 211 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 1: the g MS office. And after this, literally two days 212 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 1: after the Deshaun Watts and appeal uh was uh filed 213 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: by the league. It's like hello, like the Brown City, 214 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: just hey, we've got something that's like a little more important. Oh, 215 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: by the way, we're the ones that saved your career 216 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: when you missed eight games because of domestic violence because 217 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: you were on video kicking and pushing a woman. And 218 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 1: then on top of that, this is the thing where 219 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 1: it's where I think it got crazy. And someone was like, 220 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: just go back to work. He's eighth in running back 221 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 1: pay this year. He's a backup running back making six 222 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: point to five million dollars. If for some reason they 223 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: were upset and they said like we're just gonna cut you, 224 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: he would not make that money back. He's not getting 225 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 1: more money as a guy who had seventy carries last year, 226 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: coming off injuries and has a leak suspension, And like 227 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: I had some people say it's like, well, you got 228 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,439 Speaker 1: you know, you gotta get over that. That's the old news. Like, 229 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: he's at a bigger risk because if he does anything 230 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: again of being suspended for the entire year, so of 231 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: course that effect it's like his future pay. And I 232 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 1: think the Browns probably told him all of this and 233 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: he quickly just went this holden crumbled so fast it 234 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: almost didn't even have enough time to develop into a 235 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 1: real story. I like it, though it's buttoned up now 236 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: by the time we even talked about it. That's true, 237 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: but like it's also one of the most running back 238 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: friendly offenses. When you consider the quarterback situation, they're going 239 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: to have to lean on the running game so much 240 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: so he's gonna have plenty of opportunities to prove himself 241 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: that he can get paid. So as long as he 242 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: doesn't get hurt, I mean for next year. As long 243 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: as he doesn't get hurt, then he's going to be 244 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: in good shape. He's been hurt a lot too. Well yeah, 245 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 1: all right, uh and other news rap sheet reported that 246 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield has the inside track to win the Panthers 247 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: starting quarterback job. That a report service out there that 248 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: the Panthers are maybe looking to move Sam Donald, the 249 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 1: incumbent in a deal. Whether or not that's legit, we 250 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: don't know. But it was a big enough story that 251 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: the quarterback and the head coach UH were asked about it. 252 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: Here's what Matt Rule said about the idea of potentially 253 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: shopping Sam Donald with Baker Mayfield in the house That 254 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:12,319 Speaker 1: was obviously mentioned to me. I haven't had any those conversations. So, 255 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: you know, we're in the middle of a quarterback battle. 256 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: I assume along with quarterback battles, things like that are 257 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: going to be said. But there's nothing that Nothing that's 258 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: been said to me by Scott or anybody that we're 259 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: in that that's Scott as in Scott Fitter or the GM. 260 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: Donald acknowledged that he approached his GM and said, is 261 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: this legit? So is there smoke fire here? I don't know, Greg, 262 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: but Baker looks like he's in the driver's It's sort 263 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: of a fascinating window into like our media culture, though, 264 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: because it was from a radio reporter who does some 265 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: national stuff but in denver Um that's that's kind of 266 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: throws a lot of reports out there. But eventually it 267 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: got back to Sam Darnal. I hadn't even heard about 268 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: their It got to Sam Darna because someone was probably 269 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: blowing up his Twitter account or socials, and then he 270 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: ends up talking to the general manager and it becomes 271 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: more of a story. I think Sam Darna probably knows 272 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: where he is right now, and that's um being a 273 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: backup this year. Ian Rappaport said at Panther's camp, he 274 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: thinks it's it's Baker's job to lose because Baker's even 275 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: though they're splitting reps evenly, so far, Baker's shown more 276 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: high level plays. And and here's the way it was 277 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: explained to me, said Ian, is that Mayfield has more ability. 278 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: The wild plays, the splash plays have been more towards Mayfield, 279 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: So he's pulling away in this. And what are you 280 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: gonna get for Sam Donald in a trade if that 281 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: was even possibly uh nonfiction bag of spoons. I'm not 282 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: sure what you're gonna get for sandor who needs Maybe 283 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: maybe it is something where they if they can just 284 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: get rid of them for like a conditional seventh thing. Yes, 285 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: some of the salary you want. Who's going to buy 286 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: him though? At this point, because you also have Jimmy 287 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: g floating around out there, so you have him, and 288 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: then also Donald's gonna make eighteen point eight million the 289 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: season on the fifth year option that for some reason 290 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: they picked up, which was adiotic when it happened. So 291 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: I don't know what his marketing is. So what they 292 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: would do is sort of do the reverse Mayfield. They're 293 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: like paying Mayfield only five million, and they the Browns 294 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: are paying ten, and they would just say, look, we'll 295 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: pay fifteen of Donald's eighteen million. Just take them. Because 296 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: they do have a rookie quarterback. They're back Corald. They 297 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: do have p J. Walker, who is is probably as 298 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: valuable as Sam Donald for what it's worth is to 299 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: a no as as the Panther starters, and at least 300 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: could be a second or third guy. I wonder if 301 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: the forty Niners are going to have to end up 302 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: cutting Jimmy so then he's just going to be floating 303 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: around out there. They don't have any cap they're gonna 304 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: hold onto Jimmy g until after final cuts. I think 305 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: they're just hoping for the landscape to go dark somewhere 306 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: where they suddenly need a quarterback that's like a twenty 307 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: five and a half million dollar capit. I think there'll 308 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: be a similar thing as Donald where if they could 309 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: find a mid to late round pick they I think 310 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: the Hill he's more right, He's even more likely to 311 00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: be cut though the Jimmy G thing, I believe. UH. 312 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: Landscape turning dark? How about this podcast because we're going 313 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: into the Bearcave wide receiver issues for the Bears. First 314 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: up Byron Pringle may Or may not be ready for 315 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: a week one he has a quad injury. There's no 316 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: timetable for a return. And then nikkil Harry, who is 317 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: acquired in a trade with the Patriots UH this weekend, 318 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: suffered a potentially serious an ankle injury. I think it's 319 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 1: been ruled a high ankle sprain. So you know that 320 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: is never good. So for a team that doesn't have 321 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: a ton of depth really anywhere um on offense, this 322 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: is not a good sign for Justin Fields in year two. No, 323 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:46,199 Speaker 1: And I feel so bad for nikkil Harry, whatever you 324 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 1: think of him, It just it stinks for him because 325 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,239 Speaker 1: he kept talking about how he was looking forward to 326 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: this being a fresh start and all of the good 327 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: vibes there and it was a really nice reset for him. 328 00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:00,040 Speaker 1: And this Bears wide receiver room just keeps taking it 329 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: after hit there down three of their top four wide 330 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:08,239 Speaker 1: receivers their rookies day to day, but Byron Pringle, Um 331 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,719 Speaker 1: Mattie Berflus, I learned his nickname is Fluce, so now 332 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 1: I just want to keep calling him Fluce. Fluce did 333 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 1: say he thought that he'd be able to recover in 334 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: time for that Week one game against San Francisco. UM, 335 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: but who knows what the quad injury UM. But it's 336 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: such a shame when you look at this young quarterback, 337 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: justin Fields, who's trying to this year take some type 338 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: of step because last year was a disaster with the 339 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 1: coaching staff and the scheme that I don't even think 340 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 1: was really built for him at all. And now he's 341 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,199 Speaker 1: having all of his wide receivers go down. So you 342 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: have Darnell Mooney and then who right, And that was 343 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 1: the case even when they were healthy. I always this 344 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 1: was one of my fifty one. Uh well, you know 345 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: what I realized is one of them was how Jamis 346 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: Winston was healthy. So we gotta pull that. Pull that 347 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: out of there. You're not going to go with an 348 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 1: even fifty, right. I like the odd number. I like 349 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: the strange numbers. That just feels better. Like when I 350 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: set an alarm in the morning and it's always like six, 351 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: it just feels I can only do five or zero. 352 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: I swear I can't do it. So one of the 353 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: points was, you know, over the weekend, at one point, 354 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: Justin Fields is dropping back to past and so of 355 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 1: course it's the first team. He's taking all the first 356 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 1: team reps and his three receiver set was Chris Finky, 357 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: Nassimbie Webster, and Isaiah COULTI Okay, who are the real players? 358 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: Because and this is it's one of those points that 359 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: I don't expound on it beyond that, but you sort 360 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: of feel bad because these are young men who are professionals, 361 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: who've gotten to the highest level of the NFL. But essentially, 362 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: I'm just by listing their name, I'm kind of making 363 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 1: the point that this is a disaster. I feel to 364 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 1: feel guilt about it. Are you in bed when your 365 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: alarm goes off at six? Seven times? This mean my insight? 366 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: Does it hurt the humans involved? Cult? And Chris Fink? 367 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: But yes, I'm not familiar with those guys who was 368 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: yelling new Simba Webster, Simber Webster, Chris Finkey and Isaiah Culty. 369 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: They definitely sound like names of Mark made out. They 370 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: also have Kevin Shaw, who made a couple really nice catch. Okay, 371 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 1: they got Darnell Mooney and they're probably was taking the 372 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: day off. Okay. Speaking of which injury round up, Yes, 373 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 1: Jamis Winston tweaked his foot. Adam Schefter later reported that 374 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: was a rolled ankle and practice keep an eye on that. 375 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: He's of course coming back from the a c L 376 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 1: tear um, but doesn't appear to be too serious. But again, 377 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 1: Winston such an important part of what the Saints. You're 378 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: trying to do? Uh, Speaking of important parts of what 379 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 1: teams are trying to do. McKay Beckton, the former first 380 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 1: round pick of the Jets, uh slated to be the 381 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 1: starting right tackle. He had some type of lower leg 382 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 1: injury in practice on Monday. He's headed for an MRI. 383 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 1: I Jets fans holding their breath on that one. The 384 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: guy doesn't seem to be able to stay healthy. And 385 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: Ravens first round pick center Tyler Linderbaum that dreaded Harlett. 386 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 1: That's scorpion woman Liz Frank on the scene. Hopefully not 387 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: one of the type of Liz Frank injuries that ruins 388 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 1: the season. But the Ravens once again coming off summer 389 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 1: in two thousand where injuries essentially blew up their season 390 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: for it started. In some ways, this would not be 391 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: something you want to have your first round pick out 392 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: of the picture when he needs valuable raps. So they 393 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: were counting on him as much as anyone is counting 394 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 1: on a rookie lineman around at this point. It's not 395 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: it's it's a sprain, not a rupture, according to Mike Garifolo, 396 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 1: which is good. This was the linder Bomb had a 397 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: liszt Frank injury in college too at Iowa, but he 398 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: also recovered from that to become the highest graded PFF 399 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: center in the history of PFF. So I think he's 400 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: like the perfect Raven if he's healthy. I mean, they 401 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,439 Speaker 1: they had a great draft and he is exactly what 402 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 1: they need. Makes the perfect Raven. Because he's hurt, well, 403 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 1: that's that's a that's a newer trend. I see where 404 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 1: you're for the most part this um Greg's like, oh 405 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,959 Speaker 1: he's a human No, no, no, no. When I've been 406 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: reading their reports and like, are the Ravens gonna like 407 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 1: be devastated this year? And for the most part they've 408 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: been mostly healthy. I think is Vince Biegel on their team. 409 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: I think he's out for the season, was going to 410 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: be like reserve linebacker. But for the most part, they've 411 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: been healthy. But you're right, linder Bomb. They were going 412 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 1: to change their offense for him because what he, you know, 413 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: kind of like Creed Humphrey change the Chiefs offense in 414 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,479 Speaker 1: a way like linder Bomb is a zone blocking, get 415 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: him out in space, Jason Kelsey type of guy, and 416 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 1: that's very much not what the Ravens have done before. 417 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: And Greg Roman kind of talked about, look, we we 418 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: drafted him because we want to do what he does best, 419 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: and we're going to add to the mix, like become 420 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: a little different on in the running game just because 421 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 1: of linder Bombs would be a big loss. I hate 422 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: to hear the Liz Frank name. I don't like when 423 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 1: it comes up. It scares me. I know that I 424 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,640 Speaker 1: shouldn't be scared of it, but it's just something that happens. 425 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 1: It's a real thing, you know, it's good. I finally 426 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 1: understand where the segment was going considering earlier in Can 427 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:08,959 Speaker 1: I Apologize? I want to apologize to Colleen because because 428 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 1: in the initial rundown. I had accidentally put Texans first 429 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: round pick Liz Frank and literally it sent Colleen for 430 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: a spin emotionally and mentally that she didn't recover from 431 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: until like seconds before we started the show. Put it twice, 432 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: like how many Google searches do I have to do 433 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 1: here to figure out what the hell the story? And 434 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 1: because it was, this was why I was concerning. And 435 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: I know that we discussed this before the show, but 436 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 1: the Texans first round pick Derek did have a list franquarter, 437 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: so I was like looking for trench and updates and 438 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 1: there's nothing from like like two weeks, like they think 439 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 1: he'll be ready for week one. It's like, why are 440 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: we discussing this in news? I can't tell you how 441 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: much time I wasted trying to find the story that 442 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: was not a story today. Sorry, I threw a Molotov 443 00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: cocktail into the pre show back on the ship to 444 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: be back and let's stick with the Ravens because this 445 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: is one bit of news that can't slip by us. Tucker. 446 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: It would be the longest in NFL history. If it's 447 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 1: good a sixty six yard try. Tucker's kick is on 448 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 1: the way. It is this Groff bar and in blubbles 449 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 1: through the time has expired. That was Sandy Tucker who 450 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 1: they field goal in NFL history. That Harry is in 451 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: a part and it's may have on the field. Bang 452 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: Ravens signed Justin Tucker to a four year, twenty four 453 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: million contract extension, seventeen and a half million guaranteed for 454 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 1: a kicker. Yeah, but this is not just any kicker. 455 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: This is Justin mother effing Tucker. Seven All pros and 456 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: ten seasons, including five times First team. That's more than 457 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: Morton Anderson Jon Stener Rude, who are both Hall of Famers. 458 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 1: He's in the Superstar Club for a reason, and now 459 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 1: he's paid better than any kicker ever, And that makes sense. 460 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: I think you're Superstar club inclusion might have um prompted 461 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: the business time I got him a couple of extra 462 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 1: zeros on the contract. Probably not, but if it did, 463 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,360 Speaker 1: that would be a career highlight. I love Justin touch. 464 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 1: I'd sign him to a fifteen year contract. I just like, 465 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: let's see how old is Justin Tucker. He's probably about 466 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: thirty two. Now, I mean how many he's to me? 467 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer? He's thirty two. He turns thirty three 468 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 1: in November. Unless you get things go off the rails 469 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: in a horrific way. I would like argue if he 470 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: continues this for a couple more years, Greg, I think 471 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,199 Speaker 1: he's first ballot Hall of Fame and people need to 472 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: use him as the president. I think so. I mean, 473 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: he's a better I don't think there's much argument against 474 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: him as the best kicker in NFL history. Like if 475 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: he retired now, so, I think you're right, he'll be 476 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: in no a doubter. And that's why you know. I 477 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: saw this money, and you're really happy for Justin Tucker, 478 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, the Ravens are teams, special teams, 479 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: and like this is all great, the richest kicker ever. 480 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 1: But then you look at the contract and Justin Tucker 481 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: and his family will be taken care of for the 482 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 1: rest of their lives. I don't feel bad for them, 483 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: but I just started like thinking about other NFL players 484 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: and what they make, and I quickly just looked for 485 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: who's making six million dollars a year on a medium term, 486 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 1: long term deal, and I found three quick names. Recently, 487 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: um Mark Glowinski offensive guard I would say a mid 488 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: level guard. I believe with the chance now Ted Carriss 489 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: kind of a journeyman. Uh interior alignment with and and 490 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 1: a receiver I like a lot. So this is no shade. 491 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: But Braxton Barrios, who's a nice receivers, probably the fourth 492 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 1: receiver projects down six million a year. He's just saying it. 493 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: I mean, are they winning and losing games? Like? Justin 494 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 1: an incredible value? Who knows where the Ravens would be 495 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,719 Speaker 1: in the last ten years without Justin Tucker, but I 496 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: will I'll say that. I wonder if he ever hit 497 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: the open market, if it would be a situation. I 498 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: wonder if he thought about that. I love it here, 499 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 1: my family set up here. The Ravens have always taken 500 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: care of me. But I wonder what kind of bidding 501 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 1: would go on Justin tell a lot of bidding. And 502 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 1: maybe it's not about the money for him. Where it 503 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 1: stuff They're like, well, kickers have never made this much, this, 504 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: that and the other. And it's like, well, it's a 505 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 1: the kind of thing where you um, his agent would 506 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: agitate many other agents if suddenly Justin Tucker's kicking salary 507 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,199 Speaker 1: was three times more than any other kid. Think the 508 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,400 Speaker 1: agents would love it. I think other teams would be like, 509 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: what are you doing in the market in the market place. 510 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: If he got a out of this world contract, he 511 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: is an outlier. I feel like that would be understood anyway. 512 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 1: Speaking of the Ravens, they have that our favorite streak 513 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 1: in the in the world uh professional football, twenty consecutive 514 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: preseason wins, which is totally bonkers and doesn't make any 515 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: sense even for a team that Oh, the Ravens try 516 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: to win. So many things have to fall into place 517 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: to win twenty consecutive preseason games. Guess who's up first 518 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,479 Speaker 1: on Thursday when they continue hope to can extend that 519 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: all time preseason streak. You heard it, the Grave Diggers 520 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: team the Titans. I mean, I know, I know they're 521 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: not a division rival, but I know there's talking that 522 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: building with Mike Rabel. They would love to take down 523 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: what is like the the equivalent of football of Joe 524 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: DiMaggio's fifty six game hitting streak. Can it be done? 525 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: Can the Titans do it? If anyone can do it? 526 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: I feel like the Titans might be well positioned because 527 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: when all the third fourth stringers are on the field, 528 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: the Titans at least have Malik Willis probably closing the game. 529 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: And even if he can't do a whole lot, he's 530 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: gonna run around and be exciting. So the Titans and 531 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: the Ravens have a rivalry that goes back historically. Mike 532 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: Vrabel and John Harbaugh almost fought on a on like 533 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: the would he would love to take that history is rich. 534 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: It is just so I hope, I don't know. We'll see. 535 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: Hopefully Malik Willis can make some plays and make it 536 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: a game. It is bizarre. I mean, I've been going 537 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: through some old preseason box scores of of like when 538 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: this streak started, and at one point the Ravens are 539 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: winning games with fad Lewis, Josh Woodrum, and Ryan Mallett 540 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: as their quarterbacks. But they just find a way to 541 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: unbelievable and they broke the Vince Lombardi Packers record. And 542 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: you know Lombardi, he's an always playing bart star every snap. 543 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: You know, that was the whole different world like this. 544 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: This is so much stranger than whatever the Packers did 545 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: in the sixties and seventies or whatever. Does Jessica watch 546 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: a game like this with you when it has this 547 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: much meaning? She will actually probably watch with me On 548 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: Thursday Hey guys, one thing before we get the show going. Uh, 549 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 1: it's my girlfriend's birthday, Jessica. It is a gross exaggeration 550 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 1: of how that happened. We can only whisper her name. Now. 551 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: All right, we'll take a break and then we're gonna 552 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: do uh some check ins on Greg's fifty one takeaways 553 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: and Connie's Camp chickens up next. Don't look about Connie. 554 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 1: Where do we go? Like I think I wrote this 555 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 1: down Bucks, Rams, Broncos. You went to the Bengals, But 556 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: you also said that was so long ago you don't 557 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: remember it anymore. Is that correct? Pretty much? So we're 558 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: not going to hold you to that was the first 559 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 1: camp at this point, it's a little blurry like there 560 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 1: there was a lot of hotels, a lot of plane rides, 561 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: a lot of camps, a lot of stuff to remember, 562 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 1: so memory not your strength, No wonder why um what 563 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: about fans? A ton a ton of fans. I love 564 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: the listeners of the show. They're the best. They are 565 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 1: the nicest across the board, and that's always been the case. 566 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 1: But at all of the camps there have been a 567 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: t n listeners there. Even when I did something in 568 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 1: d C with Micole Hardman and players from Bayron Munich 569 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: the soccer team. And when I was there, one of 570 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 1: the guys that works at the stadium or does pr 571 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: for someone there, his name is Taylor, and he wanted 572 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: me to say hello. He's such a big fan. So yeah, 573 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: shout out to all of the A t N listeners. 574 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: Now are you getting recognized in airports NonStop? When you're 575 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: going getting a lot of CONTI foxes, which I love 576 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: any tiny boxes, tiny boxes, boxes, don't don't yell that 577 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: out that like that people yell that out from the 578 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 1: crowd just because I feel laugh though, police if you 579 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 1: if you talk to her private, I just feel like 580 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 1: that could confuse a lot of people and it makes 581 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: you uncomfortable, but not not apparently nothing. I went to 582 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 1: a concert and only what I'm Friday with my Bob. 583 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: We saw Sam Fender, who's like an up and coming 584 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: British rock guy, and we got there yeah, and I 585 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 1: was like, oh, man, you noticed in this venue that 586 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: at the fund of theater a lot of Brits are 587 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: there And I was like, okay, Like our throwback pot 588 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: has a lot of like overseas listeners. It's Sam Fender, 589 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: A lot of people came over to see him in 590 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: a small venue as opposed to watching him in the 591 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: seven throw Glastonbury. I'm setting the over under two and 592 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: a half for a t N listeners being here. Within 593 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 1: thirty seconds I turned around, there was a guy right 594 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: in front of me with his wife, very nice. Talk 595 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: to him intermittently throughout the evening the performance. Two more 596 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: people and the we hit the over, hit the over. 597 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 1: They're everywhere now. I like that. Cots knew you guys. 598 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 1: Did the large man like follow you around the venue? No? No, 599 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 1: it was just like a general admission scenario and we 600 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 1: had a good spot on the stage, like one more point. 601 00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: Don that happens sometimes. The guy that was outside of 602 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 1: Elmo's at the Combine was my favorite, just completely took 603 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: his attention away from everything else. You have that effect 604 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 1: on people. County congratulation. Thank you, Thank you. All right, 605 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 1: let's get into it. Do you want to share it 606 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: before we get to Greg's top fifty one? Do you 607 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 1: want to share something from one of the camps, maybe 608 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: foots on the ground. I think your your notes are 609 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: going to be better. So the most recent place I 610 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 1: was I was at the RAMS on this past Saturday. Um, 611 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: and I know that you guys had Allen Robinson on 612 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: the pod. That was a great interview. I was cracking 613 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 1: up Mark when you asked him if him and Stafford 614 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: just like look at each other sometimes and are like 615 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 1: they we're way better off at this point. Yeah, it's 616 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: got to be real, Um. But he caught a beautiful 617 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 1: no look pass from Stafford on Saturday. It was right 618 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 1: behind us UM where we were doing the show. Cooper 619 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 1: Cup raved about him afterwards, so they obviously love him. 620 00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 1: It's not hard to see how he's going to be 621 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 1: amazing in this all offense. But Leonard Floyd Um was 622 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: another guy that we talked to on defense who he's 623 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 1: going to have an interesting role in the past rush 624 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 1: considering von Miller isn't there anymore. And I feel like 625 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,319 Speaker 1: his journey is one that people don't really talk about 626 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: a lot because he was cut by the Bears. He 627 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: signed a one year deal with the Rams. He delivered, 628 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 1: then he got a really nice pay day and won 629 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. So his last two seasons have been 630 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: the best of his career. He has twenty sacks and 631 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 1: the last two seasons combined, and he had offseason ankle 632 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,360 Speaker 1: surgery this past year. It was something that had bothered 633 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 1: him all season. He had played through it, so now 634 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,800 Speaker 1: he's healthy. I think he's going to play a big 635 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 1: role in that pass rush. But there was a hilarious 636 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 1: exchange when we were talking to him because m j 637 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 1: D was NonStop talking about his rams super Bowl ring 638 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:53,320 Speaker 1: all day long. So I asked him how important m 639 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 1: j D was to their super Bowl run and Floyd's 640 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:58,959 Speaker 1: response was that he didn't know m j D worked 641 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: for the team, and that really just made everything so 642 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,720 Speaker 1: worth I took it down a peg, I assume, yeah, 643 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:12,359 Speaker 1: but in terms of like that he's the best, He's 644 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,359 Speaker 1: so much hard to where he could take that. Oh 645 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 1: he was. He was not happy about it. And then 646 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,720 Speaker 1: and then Floyd was like, well, my ring is bigger 647 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 1: than yours. And Jenny was like, we got the same ring, 648 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 1: it's the same size. Is that true? Yeah, because we 649 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 1: had J B Long who was at the same ring. 650 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: J's partner on the radio. That's pretty cool that you 651 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 1: get the same ring. O. Yeah, they don't give you, 652 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 1: like would be that respect that would make sense, like 653 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 1: if you're you're on the coaching staff. Hell, even within 654 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 1: the team. I think Matthew Stafford's ring should be way 655 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:49,240 Speaker 1: bigger than I don't know, like John Wolford The Bachelor, 656 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 1: like that would be Aaron Donald's rings should be you 657 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 1: could see it from space. I could see a lot 658 00:35:54,160 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 1: of hard feelings there, but not as big as you know. 659 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 1: It just keeps guys hungry. Sometimes you hear about, oh 660 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 1: this idea, Well, they want a title and they got 661 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 1: soft not if your ring sucks, nothing would push them 662 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 1: to do to achieve more. I worry about their pastors. 663 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 1: They're They're one of those teams that there's some good 664 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 1: teams where everything is like set, Like the Bengals have 665 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 1: no position battles for instance, going on. There's just a 666 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 1: few really boring camps because there's not much to be settled. 667 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 1: The Vikings, weirdly are one of them. The Rams have 668 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 1: open spots, is my point. Like Floyd has the one 669 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 1: and a total question mark of who's going to kind 670 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 1: of be their other addressers. All right, that's good, and 671 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,799 Speaker 1: by the way, I I still think there's a little 672 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 1: more to the Stafford thing that everybody is trying to 673 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 1: chill everybody out. UM with the elbow situation. Um with 674 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,840 Speaker 1: Stafford on Friday when we were there, talk to somebody 675 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 1: high up with the team off Mike and he kind 676 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,239 Speaker 1: of laughed it off, is nothing. Then Sean McVeigh after 677 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 1: Stafford through in Saturday's practice said he will sleep better. 678 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 1: Why would you say you sleep better if it everyone says, oh, 679 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 1: this is no. They don't know. No one really knows, 680 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 1: You're right. I think it's a little bit more of 681 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 1: an issue than they want publicly people to let on, 682 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 1: and hopefully it doesn't. I thought, you know, saying that 683 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:10,799 Speaker 1: he's never dealt with an injury like this, it's more 684 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 1: of a baseball thing, but that, like, I think it's 685 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 1: a wait and see the situation that could be more 686 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 1: concerning than six the ardor and that was I think 687 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 1: what McVeigh was specifically answering was like, Oh that was that. 688 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 1: I think it's more of just a pain tolerance thing 689 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 1: to not necessarily something that's going to affect how he throws, 690 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,879 Speaker 1: just how he deals with the pain when he does throw. 691 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 1: This sounds to me like it's been a situation that 692 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,399 Speaker 1: they've dealt with for a while, at least Stafford has 693 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 1: for a while. And I think the reason they knew 694 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 1: about it when they're hoping for relief with there, and 695 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 1: they didn't get it. We're not gonna We're not gonna 696 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 1: see Stafford obviously in the preseason. We're not going to 697 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,879 Speaker 1: see according to the l A Times John Wolford either. 698 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,880 Speaker 1: So this is just a little quiz your depth chart knowledge. 699 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:56,880 Speaker 1: Who would be get in line to get snaps for 700 00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 1: the Rams? No, looking at your laptop, Greg, I got it, 701 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,719 Speaker 1: but I give it about Bryce Perkins. I was there 702 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 1: for the last year's preseason opener and Perkins played the 703 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 1: whole time basically, And how does your mind work? A 704 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 1: memory effected? Yeah, I mean it is, but it contains 705 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 1: got the rock. What do you give me a fifty one? 706 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,439 Speaker 1: Give me one of the fifty one? What's your favorite one? Well, 707 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 1: not favorite, but I think the juiciest one we haven't 708 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:32,359 Speaker 1: discussed on this show is the whole Patriots idea that 709 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:36,280 Speaker 1: they're really going through with, like installing this zone blocking 710 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 1: scheme that after after twenty one years, Charlie Weiss arrives, 711 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,319 Speaker 1: you could really go back to the mid eighties with 712 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 1: Ron Earhart and Bill Belichick will talk about it when 713 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 1: they installed this offense for Phil Simson and other players 714 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 1: on the Giants but with the Patriots, you can go 715 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,719 Speaker 1: back twenty one years to the offense Charlie Weiss installed. 716 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 1: They've been running that offense since. In terms of the 717 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 1: running game, it's like like a power power running game, uh, 718 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,399 Speaker 1: where you're taking up the blockers. Now they see what's 719 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,719 Speaker 1: going on around the league. They lose Josh McDaniels, who's 720 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 1: a fantastic offensive coordinator, and there was like this kind 721 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 1: of whispers like, oh, we're gonna start installing this zone 722 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,399 Speaker 1: blocking scheme in the off season, but people weren't really 723 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,399 Speaker 1: sure if they meant it um and the Patriots weren't 724 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,280 Speaker 1: talking about it because they don't talk about anything. Fast 725 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 1: forward to this training camp and anyone watching the Patriots 726 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,759 Speaker 1: on a daily basis is saying they didn't just like 727 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 1: tweaked the old offense. They ripped it up. They started 728 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 1: from scratch, and it's going horribly that mac Jones looks 729 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 1: out of sync. He looks uncomfortable. The most um telling 730 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 1: quote Tom Current pointed out, and this is why Curran's 731 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 1: the best. That just sort of as an aside, Mac 732 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 1: Jones said at one point in his press conference that 733 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 1: he was getting his feet wet in the new offense, 734 00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, wait, we didn't totally know you 735 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 1: had a new offense, and wait, why is Mac Jones 736 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 1: getting his feet wet? Also, they were a top ten 737 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 1: scoring team with a rookie quarterback and a pretty lackluster 738 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 1: group around him. They were a very effective offense last 739 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,759 Speaker 1: year considering they had a rookie quarterback, primarily because of 740 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,799 Speaker 1: their running game, and um, he ripped it all up. 741 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, it's gonna be Matt Patricia 742 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 1: and Joe freaking Judge. That's like, that's installing it and 743 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 1: I was trying to It's just it's what a rippled 744 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 1: trickle down effect from losing Josh McDaniels, because none of 745 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 1: this would be happening and you'd be, you know, enveloping 746 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,280 Speaker 1: Matt Jones with a great offensive coordinator. And now instead 747 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,879 Speaker 1: you have the hubris of the Patriots to think, we'll 748 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:46,279 Speaker 1: just install Matt Patricia as an untitled play caller. That's 749 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 1: who's in, Like, how does he know how to install? Like, well, 750 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,799 Speaker 1: why is it fine? Sean? No, I don't think it 751 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 1: is fine. I think, well, no, that's not fine either. 752 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 1: You're right, But if they were running the same offense, 753 00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 1: I feel like maybe that can work. You have Belichick 754 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:04,520 Speaker 1: running it, you have the institution, and maybe maybe it's 755 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 1: all work in the end. But it is a huge 756 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,320 Speaker 1: departure from their gap heavy sort of power rushing attack 757 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,239 Speaker 1: which was the core of their offense. And these are 758 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 1: the guys installing know exactly where this is going. It 759 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,759 Speaker 1: might work out in the end, but managed to a 760 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:20,799 Speaker 1: very important story. This is just another version of oh 761 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,239 Speaker 1: my god, what are the Patriots doing? They have no 762 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 1: idea what they're doing. And I mean talk to me 763 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:30,240 Speaker 1: in like November, because the Patriots always end up starting 764 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 1: a little slow anywhere angle. I think they are a 765 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,880 Speaker 1: huge obviously, they represent a huge question mark in the 766 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,400 Speaker 1: A f C entering the season, and it does seem 767 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,880 Speaker 1: to point to if you're getting the Patriots on the schedule, 768 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 1: and this is kind of how it always has been, 769 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 1: like get him in September and into October because there 770 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 1: probably will be some bumps and bruises for this team 771 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,800 Speaker 1: trying to figure things out right now. But again also 772 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,719 Speaker 1: with Patricia, yeah it's the play caller, but things if 773 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:58,759 Speaker 1: things are going poorly and the boss thinks it's Patricia 774 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,279 Speaker 1: playing a role, well, Elichick is gonna call plays. He's 775 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 1: gonna take practices where he has right And I think 776 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 1: if this zone blocking scheme is going poorly, he might 777 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,959 Speaker 1: just rip that up and give up. Why are they doing? 778 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,560 Speaker 1: That's what I would think. But current Bill Belichick thinks 779 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:20,399 Speaker 1: it's better for the Patriots. I think the personnel that's 780 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 1: the thing that's confusing. They have these big offensive lineman 781 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,399 Speaker 1: that on paper fit the old scheme better. Oh when 782 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,920 Speaker 1: you certainly Trent Brown to me that you know they 783 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 1: drafted Isaiah Win with this other scheme in mind, then 784 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,080 Speaker 1: they draft call Strange and that was sort of like 785 00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,720 Speaker 1: a a tip off to where they were going. Who's 786 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 1: maybe gonna fit better in like a zone scheming. Current 787 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 1: thinks that belichicks into deep that that basically he thinks 788 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,480 Speaker 1: this is gonna be better for the organization in the 789 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,120 Speaker 1: really long run, and that if they have to stink, 790 00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:53,359 Speaker 1: even for a season or whatever, it's gonna be that 791 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,760 Speaker 1: he felt like, basically they were running this old attack 792 00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,400 Speaker 1: and the league has changed, and this was the change 793 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 1: he wanted to see and that he's gonna stick with it. 794 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 1: But Greg Bdard, who has watched every Patriots practice forever, 795 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,919 Speaker 1: was like this was the worst practices I have seen 796 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,520 Speaker 1: in my life, with maybe the exception of the Cam 797 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,719 Speaker 1: Cameron Dolphins, is that is it worth it to put 798 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 1: Mac Jones through that? Just in his second year in 799 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,920 Speaker 1: the league, when he said, young, how many voices are 800 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,680 Speaker 1: in his head right now? To calling plays when you're 801 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,719 Speaker 1: used to just one Josh McDaniels and you guys have 802 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 1: a rhythm, and now all of a sudden, there's like 803 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:31,440 Speaker 1: three different voices and three different personalities. It reminds me 804 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,719 Speaker 1: of what bad teams do, where it's like you had 805 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,359 Speaker 1: you had the best rookie quarterback a year ago, and 806 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,720 Speaker 1: you've found a way to muddle it up and remove 807 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,520 Speaker 1: all momentum. I think I'm the only one. Not really, 808 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,279 Speaker 1: I'm not paying I'm not freaking out as much as 809 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,440 Speaker 1: like I find it fascinating, because I do find the 810 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 1: excellent fascinating is one thing, But team is not disorganized. 811 00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 1: It was a calculated move and they sort of used 812 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,279 Speaker 1: the mc annuals departure for him to do something he 813 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:06,720 Speaker 1: wanted and it I I don't question his bona fides, 814 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 1: but it's dramatic considering they've they've literally been running out 815 00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:14,960 Speaker 1: of that old playbook and some capacity for twenty one years. 816 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's one of the Belichick even with 817 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,840 Speaker 1: Brady there, sometimes it took time for them to figure 818 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,440 Speaker 1: things out. And maybe it's a little more rocky this year, 819 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,640 Speaker 1: or maybe even a lot more rocky. But I think 820 00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,200 Speaker 1: come November, I think they're going to be in the 821 00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:30,840 Speaker 1: mix for the wild card. They could be in the 822 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,879 Speaker 1: mix for the division. Um. I think there's a lot 823 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 1: of like idea that the Patriots are gonna be terrible 824 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,840 Speaker 1: this year because some of these things going on. I 825 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,720 Speaker 1: think there's a better chance that they figure it out. 826 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,520 Speaker 1: By the time it counts, they'll probably win nine games 827 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:45,960 Speaker 1: or ten games. I don't have an issue with that. 828 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,920 Speaker 1: I just something about the whole Matt Patricia and come 829 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 1: back home things that they've dealt with. It is unusual 830 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,200 Speaker 1: to me, all right, Connie, what else? Okay? So, also 831 00:44:56,200 --> 00:45:02,719 Speaker 1: two little random things on the ground with Tampa. So 832 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:04,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys saw this, but Mike 833 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:09,880 Speaker 1: Evans before he um hurt himself, he is a huge 834 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:13,279 Speaker 1: Harry Potter fan, so much so that he got a 835 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:18,120 Speaker 1: Harry Potter tattoo, a pretty sizeable Harry Potter tattoo. On 836 00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,520 Speaker 1: his calf this off season, which I was with Steve 837 00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:25,239 Speaker 1: Smith Sr. In Tampa and we were asking him, like, 838 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,520 Speaker 1: you know, Harry Potter hasn't really come out with anything 839 00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:31,279 Speaker 1: new in a while, So what prompted you this particular 840 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:36,080 Speaker 1: off season to go with the tattoo? He loves Harry Potter. 841 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,120 Speaker 1: He said, he watches it every day and that's how 842 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:43,279 Speaker 1: he falls as That's how he falls asleep every night 843 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,960 Speaker 1: putting on a little HP. That is the last thing 844 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:48,840 Speaker 1: that I would want in my ear as I was 845 00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:53,560 Speaker 1: falling asleep. He said a little He said that that's 846 00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,640 Speaker 1: a direct quote little HP. He was so funny about it. 847 00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,200 Speaker 1: He was great. And then we also talked to Leonard 848 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,680 Speaker 1: for Nett, who had a lot of fun about all 849 00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:06,160 Speaker 1: of the trash everyone was talking about him coming into 850 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,400 Speaker 1: camp overweight. Um. He laughed a lot about it. But 851 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,239 Speaker 1: he also, I don't know if you guys saw this, 852 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,920 Speaker 1: there was a clip floating around on social of him 853 00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:18,040 Speaker 1: brushing his teeth on the sideline at practice, and so 854 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:21,600 Speaker 1: we were asking him about that and he told us 855 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:25,920 Speaker 1: that he has about right now Ballpark, about forty toothbrushes 856 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,520 Speaker 1: in his locker. So I tried to get into the 857 00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:31,719 Speaker 1: weeds on that a little bit more to to find 858 00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:35,040 Speaker 1: out why. But I was getting wrapped, So there is 859 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:39,479 Speaker 1: some intrigue there as to why he has My father 860 00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:43,480 Speaker 1: in law is a retired dentist. I'm gonna ask him 861 00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,000 Speaker 1: when is it too much in terms of brushing. I 862 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,440 Speaker 1: would imagine you would run into potential enamel issues if 863 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,920 Speaker 1: you're repeatedly scrubbing, you know. I think I would be 864 00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:57,360 Speaker 1: more concerned about gums, like gum recession, you know what. 865 00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,640 Speaker 1: So wait, the NFL network decided that wasn't not a 866 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,560 Speaker 1: interesting enough We had been talking to him for a while. 867 00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,239 Speaker 1: This was at the end of the interview, um, and 868 00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,319 Speaker 1: so he was just going on and on about how 869 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,920 Speaker 1: important mouth hygiene is. Um. He's like, by the way, 870 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:16,400 Speaker 1: there was a break. Yeah. So those were two little 871 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,839 Speaker 1: things from Bucks. I get I'm in the lead. I'm 872 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:20,680 Speaker 1: in the weeds a little bit like things like Harry 873 00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,320 Speaker 1: Potter and Lord of the Rings. But I understand it's 874 00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,719 Speaker 1: it's incredibly meaningful of those franchises to people. I don't 875 00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:31,520 Speaker 1: know anything about Potter about a giant tattoo on the 876 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,320 Speaker 1: calf for a thirty year old man. But at the 877 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,440 Speaker 1: same time, I was seeing like, is there a point 878 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,160 Speaker 1: he gets older, maybe he ends up having a family 879 00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,799 Speaker 1: where he feels differently about Harry Potter. But I think 880 00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:43,960 Speaker 1: the answer is probably no. If he's this in at 881 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,600 Speaker 1: this point, he's got I don't know if he has children, 882 00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,960 Speaker 1: but I'm sure he's excited to introduce the Harry Potter franchise, 883 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,480 Speaker 1: maybe the books. I mean, if it makes him, I'm 884 00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,640 Speaker 1: sure every day that he sees it, it makes him happy. 885 00:47:56,040 --> 00:48:00,480 Speaker 1: Who's to be graduated? Jason LTE's son, uh uh? The 886 00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:04,160 Speaker 1: Bucks GM His son was there waiting for an autograph 887 00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,680 Speaker 1: from Mike Evans and so we brought him over during 888 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,719 Speaker 1: the interview, and Mike Evans and and us we were 889 00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,239 Speaker 1: asking him if he knows anything about Harry Potter. He's 890 00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,840 Speaker 1: a young kid, little kid. I had no idea of 891 00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:20,480 Speaker 1: what it was. Mark, do you want to throw out 892 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:24,400 Speaker 1: a nug from Greg's right up there? You number nineteen? 893 00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,080 Speaker 1: Is this the old number nineteen? Or that's a good question. 894 00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:37,959 Speaker 1: Not since the Texans Tyler Linde mom drama has something 895 00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:45,400 Speaker 1: gotten so confusing Rocky Morning, Um, this is so predictable 896 00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,239 Speaker 1: to me. I can't believe that this is happening. We 897 00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,360 Speaker 1: already didn't know what was gonna happen. Carson Wentz is 898 00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,640 Speaker 1: struggle leading camp with its accuracy to the point where 899 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,680 Speaker 1: Ron Rivera is having to openly discuss it and say 900 00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,080 Speaker 1: that they're not thrilled with how he's playing. I mean, 901 00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,319 Speaker 1: it's just like you went out and heat steeked this 902 00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:04,480 Speaker 1: quarterback when the market was still wide open to go 903 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,239 Speaker 1: in a number of different directions. And Carson Wentz has 904 00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:11,160 Speaker 1: been a hot mess in multiple venues years in a row, 905 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:14,160 Speaker 1: and now he's in Washington struggling, big surprise. And I 906 00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:16,239 Speaker 1: think it's notable because the other side is he's having 907 00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:18,520 Speaker 1: a great camp. He's really picking up. It's like he's 908 00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,640 Speaker 1: standing out to what what was the one of the 909 00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,799 Speaker 1: defensive players was chasing him out of bounds and yelling 910 00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,400 Speaker 1: at get rid of it, get rid of it, right 911 00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,759 Speaker 1: because he was like he was outside the pocket in 912 00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,480 Speaker 1: a normal play. Manta Sweat is chasing him. He's gonna 913 00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,239 Speaker 1: get the sack on the play, and it's saying get 914 00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:34,680 Speaker 1: rid of it, get rid of it, like don't go 915 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,759 Speaker 1: out of bounds because you're gonna take a seven yard lost. 916 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,000 Speaker 1: But Wentz did not get rid of it. It's just 917 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,480 Speaker 1: I've seen this play so many times, so I know 918 00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,200 Speaker 1: how the movie ends. It's great. They've also been missing 919 00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,960 Speaker 1: three of their starting offensive lineman almost the whole time. 920 00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,480 Speaker 1: Curtis Samuel has been in and out. But it Wentz 921 00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:53,279 Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily pass that. I feel like they're the baseline 922 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,320 Speaker 1: test of an NFL quarterback is like, when you're protected 923 00:49:56,360 --> 00:50:00,080 Speaker 1: in a game, can you deliver? Because almost all of 924 00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,920 Speaker 1: him camp, like Daniel Jones to me, for instance, passes that. Like, 925 00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:06,520 Speaker 1: if you're just protected, Baker certainly passed it. If you're protected, 926 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,000 Speaker 1: can you just deliver? That's sort of the baseline. And 927 00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:12,840 Speaker 1: like Wentz is doing this against air, it's not against 928 00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,319 Speaker 1: the pass rush. It's not not even when when they 929 00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:20,360 Speaker 1: have well, at least he's a ferocious team leader. I mean, 930 00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:25,759 Speaker 1: it's just as poorly every single team. The reporters are like, well, 931 00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,960 Speaker 1: the defense is crushing the offense. So that is every camps, 932 00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,320 Speaker 1: every time, the defense is always ahead of the offense, 933 00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:34,400 Speaker 1: except for Jared goff Like they just like Jared goff is. 934 00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,799 Speaker 1: But with Wentz, it's like the main thing coming out 935 00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,960 Speaker 1: of camp is that he is consistently inconsistent, and that 936 00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:44,480 Speaker 1: has been his entire career. I mean up until that 937 00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,959 Speaker 1: seventeen year when he got hurt. He was really good. 938 00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,520 Speaker 1: Before that, you could see the flashes and they boom. 939 00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,319 Speaker 1: I can't believe we have to watch Jared Goff again 940 00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:59,359 Speaker 1: on a high profile NFL Films documentary series. That's part 941 00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,840 Speaker 1: of it is And I think you might have rams 942 00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:10,080 Speaker 1: all or Nothing, RAMS twenty all or nothing rams and 943 00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:14,360 Speaker 1: now are hard knocks Rams and now somehow impossibly almost 944 00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:18,080 Speaker 1: two thousand lines. It's not Goff's fault in a way, 945 00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:22,680 Speaker 1: It's just that there was so much. He's not the 946 00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:26,560 Speaker 1: most dynamic presence, but they have a lot of other 947 00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:32,399 Speaker 1: personality on him. Let's hope Williams has a huge personality. 948 00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,240 Speaker 1: I think he's going to be a star on the show. 949 00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:36,520 Speaker 1: Like at this point in the NFL Films crew, Like 950 00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:38,680 Speaker 1: there has to be multiple people in that crew that's 951 00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,040 Speaker 1: getting invited to Goff's wedding. They have to be close 952 00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:42,920 Speaker 1: at that. They have spent a lot of times, all right, 953 00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:47,520 Speaker 1: give us another Camp Chicken. So for the Colts, um, 954 00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,480 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm really high on the Colts And 955 00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's just because I ended up 956 00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:55,680 Speaker 1: like spending a little bit more time with them or not. 957 00:51:55,920 --> 00:52:00,440 Speaker 1: But Frank Reich, he is over the moon with um 958 00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,040 Speaker 1: Matt Mattie. I was going to call hi, Matt Ryan. 959 00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,360 Speaker 1: This is all connected directly to Carson Wentz by the 960 00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,200 Speaker 1: way too, because they didn't wait to get him out 961 00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,359 Speaker 1: of the building. So anybody that comes in they're gonna 962 00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,040 Speaker 1: be happy about. But then when it's a former m 963 00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,560 Speaker 1: v P and a potential Hall of Famer, it was 964 00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:15,680 Speaker 1: put it this way, not to talk of you. I'm 965 00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:18,160 Speaker 1: gonna throw it right back to this was a perfect 966 00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:23,400 Speaker 1: um storm for Matt Ryan lovin this summer. Oh you know, 967 00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,239 Speaker 1: no question about it. And all I've heard from the 968 00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:30,560 Speaker 1: team is just how intense Matt Ryan has been since 969 00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:34,120 Speaker 1: coming in, just taking taking over that like leadership role, 970 00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:39,880 Speaker 1: teaching everyone NonStop like everyone absolutely loves him. And also 971 00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:43,359 Speaker 1: the fact that Frank Reich finally got Reggie Wayne on 972 00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,200 Speaker 1: the staff. This was something that Frank Reich had been 973 00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:49,560 Speaker 1: trying for for years. He said that he probably called 974 00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,160 Speaker 1: Reggie like fifty times to come and be the wide 975 00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:56,680 Speaker 1: receivers coach. So now Reggie's there, and they really love 976 00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:01,200 Speaker 1: their rookie Alec Pierce out of Cincinnati. He's fast, he's 977 00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,920 Speaker 1: got good hands, he can catch those balls. And this 978 00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:07,560 Speaker 1: is an offense where Michael Pittman Jr. He really emerged 979 00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,319 Speaker 1: as the number one target last year. So now if 980 00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,920 Speaker 1: they can get something out of Alec Pierce, I think 981 00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:15,080 Speaker 1: that he could play a big role in this offense. 982 00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:19,439 Speaker 1: Paris Campbell, Well, it's like Paris Campbell season. Uh. You 983 00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:23,560 Speaker 1: hope that the injuries don't happen again. Maybe they don't 984 00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:26,120 Speaker 1: this year. But this is like when I think about 985 00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,839 Speaker 1: this offense with Matt Ryan, the fact that he's never 986 00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,120 Speaker 1: had a run game like this, this is one of 987 00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:35,080 Speaker 1: the best offensive lines he's probably had. Also, something that 988 00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:39,200 Speaker 1: I found out at camp it is not pronounced Bobby 989 00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:45,080 Speaker 1: o greeky. He is going with a more traditional Nigerian pronunciation, 990 00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:56,200 Speaker 1: so it's bobby Okayricka. That's news you can use exactly. Yeah, 991 00:53:56,239 --> 00:54:00,759 Speaker 1: Shack leonard Um. I asked the Forest Buckner like if 992 00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:04,759 Speaker 1: it was weird. Uh. He was like, no, We've all 993 00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,839 Speaker 1: been calling him shock and so it really wasn't like 994 00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:09,440 Speaker 1: that big of a deal for us. But he was 995 00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,160 Speaker 1: like the okayackay thing through me. He's like, because I 996 00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:14,439 Speaker 1: usually like greet him in the parking lot every day 997 00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:16,880 Speaker 1: and say, oh, go Ricky, and he's like, so, now 998 00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,000 Speaker 1: I can I gotta like change that up a little bit, 999 00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,520 Speaker 1: all those all those times, like a tear was going 1000 00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:28,480 Speaker 1: down his cheeks. He decided this year. But um, I 1001 00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:33,000 Speaker 1: did find it interesting that like their their schedule, they 1002 00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:37,960 Speaker 1: haven't won a season opener since the Colts that always 1003 00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:42,560 Speaker 1: start really slow and they play I think it's the 1004 00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:45,719 Speaker 1: Texans and then the Jags on the road first this year, 1005 00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,200 Speaker 1: so like getting a fast start, so they're not in 1006 00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,160 Speaker 1: the situation that they were in last year where they 1007 00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,479 Speaker 1: needed to win one of their you know, two last 1008 00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:54,799 Speaker 1: games to actually make the playoffs. If they can get 1009 00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,319 Speaker 1: a fast start, then that would be nice because then 1010 00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,520 Speaker 1: their home openers against the Chiefs week three, they might 1011 00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:02,440 Speaker 1: they might have Shaquille Leonard. That to me is more 1012 00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,719 Speaker 1: concerning than the change. He's hurt. And I think you 1013 00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,359 Speaker 1: mentioned Pierce as a starter. They're gonna have a couple 1014 00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:10,759 Speaker 1: of rookie starters. Sounds like Nick Cross, like a third 1015 00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:13,920 Speaker 1: round rookie safety has just been one of those guys 1016 00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:16,640 Speaker 1: that they say like immediate day one starter, which you 1017 00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:18,839 Speaker 1: do not necessarily expect that of a third round pick. 1018 00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:20,759 Speaker 1: They had another third round pick who it was a 1019 00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,120 Speaker 1: lot of people's top tight end in the entire draft, 1020 00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:26,920 Speaker 1: gilannie Woods, who was apparently buried and like wouldn't probably 1021 00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't make the team if not for being the third 1022 00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,160 Speaker 1: round pick in his fourth or fifth on the depth chart. 1023 00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,360 Speaker 1: But that's one of those guys. Like on draft A 1024 00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:35,880 Speaker 1: fantasy heads are like, oh, gilannie Woods, that could be 1025 00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:37,800 Speaker 1: someone we draft, and then you get to the camp 1026 00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:41,080 Speaker 1: and and he's buried. All right, let's take a break 1027 00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:46,680 Speaker 1: and then finish out our conversation. All right, welcome back. 1028 00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:50,000 Speaker 1: Let's hit a couple more greg on your list. Uh, 1029 00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:52,840 Speaker 1: you know what you point out on number thirteen or 1030 00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:58,719 Speaker 1: is it number twelve? Under cause for concern? It's officially 1031 00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,279 Speaker 1: time to worry about the Packer offensive line. They've been 1032 00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:06,600 Speaker 1: struggling in camp. Uh, Elgin Jenkins headed for the publist 1033 00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,399 Speaker 1: most likely to start the season. We all know what's 1034 00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:11,680 Speaker 1: going on David back tr and what what what I 1035 00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:13,920 Speaker 1: mean is nobody knows what's going on with David backr 1036 00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:17,440 Speaker 1: other than he's missed basically all of last season and 1037 00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,279 Speaker 1: there's no timetable for return now. And I think it 1038 00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,640 Speaker 1: makes me think more bigger picture, and we just talked 1039 00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:25,919 Speaker 1: about it with the Patriots earlier teams that watch out 1040 00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:28,920 Speaker 1: maybe for slow starts. Not only is the line of 1041 00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:33,799 Speaker 1: work in progress um in front of Aaron Rodgers, Obviously 1042 00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:37,760 Speaker 1: chemistry is different with Davante Adams not there, and Rogers 1043 00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,320 Speaker 1: has to learn how to you know, get a connection 1044 00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:43,920 Speaker 1: with his new wide receivers. So you combined the loss 1045 00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:47,920 Speaker 1: of the star wide receiver with offensive line and transition. 1046 00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:53,080 Speaker 1: That has the recipe for some ten to twenty point weeks, right, 1047 00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:55,160 Speaker 1: and you're at You're at Vikings week one, You're at 1048 00:56:55,160 --> 00:57:00,279 Speaker 1: the Bucks week three, two tricky road games. They it's 1049 00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:03,399 Speaker 1: just asking a lot of Rogers. Packers fans will point out, like, look, 1050 00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:07,239 Speaker 1: Jenkins and Backdary were gone most of the y, which 1051 00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:09,600 Speaker 1: it is a totally fair point than the gate scenes 1052 00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:12,799 Speaker 1: in the end, but they also it's just like guys 1053 00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:15,000 Speaker 1: you don't think about Lucas Patrick left for the Bears, 1054 00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,320 Speaker 1: Billy Turner left for the Broncos. So those were guys 1055 00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:20,800 Speaker 1: that were starting and playing for them too. So it's just, man, 1056 00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,760 Speaker 1: it's asking. It's a Rogers kind of makes his offensive 1057 00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,800 Speaker 1: lineman in some way, but that's asking a lot. It's 1058 00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:29,160 Speaker 1: putting so much on Rogers this year. They really are 1059 00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:31,200 Speaker 1: putting a lot unsure as you got another one, Mark, 1060 00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:36,160 Speaker 1: I'm intrigued by the reports on Isaiah Pacheco in Kansas City, 1061 00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:40,240 Speaker 1: seventh rounder in the running back race, and they you 1062 00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:43,040 Speaker 1: just send Gregg Writes and his thing. He's making noise 1063 00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:45,120 Speaker 1: in a wide open running back battle and he just 1064 00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,920 Speaker 1: moves different. He's getting he's getting first team snaps with 1065 00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:49,960 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. So that's the kind of stuff I like 1066 00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:52,440 Speaker 1: to watch in the preseason as someone who's bubbling up 1067 00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:55,560 Speaker 1: in practice starting to penetrate the first team depth chart. 1068 00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:59,160 Speaker 1: Enter Mark Sessler, Zack Center All this guy sounds a 1069 00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,840 Speaker 1: little spicier than out center. Potago is one of those 1070 00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:04,360 Speaker 1: guys that you saw like in the draft process, that man, 1071 00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:06,240 Speaker 1: he just moves crazy. He's a little bit of an 1072 00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:10,160 Speaker 1: upright runner. Uh But he's someone in the preseason that 1073 00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:12,440 Speaker 1: can earn a role, like a big role. It sounds 1074 00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:14,680 Speaker 1: like he's gonna be their kick returner, which means he's 1075 00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:17,320 Speaker 1: gonna be on their game day roster. And it's Andy Reid. 1076 00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:20,840 Speaker 1: That running back room seems like totally wide open for 1077 00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:24,400 Speaker 1: him to just step in and be one of a 1078 00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:28,480 Speaker 1: preseason rushing champion. Never forget you more than any other 1079 00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:32,600 Speaker 1: person preseason rushing ship. I think that matters. I feel 1080 00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:35,080 Speaker 1: like Damie also carved out not the worst little career 1081 00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:38,600 Speaker 1: for himself. I mean he hung around. Texans fourth round 1082 00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:42,240 Speaker 1: pick Damian Pierce feels like another fantasy like sleeper that 1083 00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:46,320 Speaker 1: could emerge in the preseason, but that the rookie like 1084 00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:49,360 Speaker 1: reports are important, probably more important than anything. Like there's 1085 00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:51,320 Speaker 1: some guys like Romeo Dubbs in Green Bay. It's like, 1086 00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:53,880 Speaker 1: now you'd be surprised if he wasn't starting or having 1087 00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:56,080 Speaker 1: a big role in Week one and he was a 1088 00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:59,040 Speaker 1: fourth round rookie that he's already passed Christian Watson, the 1089 00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,800 Speaker 1: guy that they rated up all those picks four in 1090 00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:03,760 Speaker 1: the second round, who hasn't been able to play at all. 1091 00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,080 Speaker 1: But then there's also the flip side. And the one 1092 00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:07,959 Speaker 1: point I did want to just get in here before 1093 00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:11,760 Speaker 1: he moved off was the Bill's cornerback situation that Kayer Elam, 1094 00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:15,240 Speaker 1: their first round pick, has really been struggling, that they've 1095 00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:17,600 Speaker 1: picked on him, and they they're thinking, maybe it's because 1096 00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:19,640 Speaker 1: you have to go against Josh Allen and Stefon Diggs 1097 00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:23,440 Speaker 1: in this offense and practice every day, but that you know, 1098 00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:26,360 Speaker 1: he's splitting reps with the sixth round pick Christian Benford, 1099 00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:28,600 Speaker 1: who has maybe looked a little better, and then you 1100 00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:31,240 Speaker 1: kind of look at the whole picture. Trade Avious White 1101 00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:33,040 Speaker 1: is coming off of a torn a c L. He 1102 00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:35,600 Speaker 1: hasn't been able to practice at all. They're a little 1103 00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:39,080 Speaker 1: thin there to begin with. It's like Dane Jackson and 1104 00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,760 Speaker 1: a couple of rookies that are struggling and potentially got 1105 00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:45,560 Speaker 1: the Rams. Week one, the defending champs is two and 1106 00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:48,280 Speaker 1: a half point underdogs at home. I'm not saying the 1107 00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:54,800 Speaker 1: Rainmakers coming out on August eight, but traditionally that one caught. 1108 00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:57,240 Speaker 1: That one caught my eye because you know it's the 1109 00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:00,440 Speaker 1: home gate team in Week one. Generally I would give 1110 01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:03,880 Speaker 1: them regardless and they could be matching up against some 1111 01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:07,960 Speaker 1: pretty nice receivers there for the Rams. I am just 1112 01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:10,800 Speaker 1: looking over your article, which everybody should check out. You 1113 01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:15,640 Speaker 1: could find it on NFL dot com. Um. The weird 1114 01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:19,360 Speaker 1: coach stuff section is something that I didn't notice when 1115 01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:22,440 Speaker 1: I first pulled up this article. But I didn't realize 1116 01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:25,920 Speaker 1: that Brian day Ball isn't letting the media or fans. 1117 01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:28,439 Speaker 1: How do you how do you police fans post any 1118 01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:34,120 Speaker 1: clips from practice after before? I think there are a 1119 01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:37,440 Speaker 1: decent amount of teams that do this. So initially media 1120 01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:40,160 Speaker 1: is putting up the videos and and that's happens all 1121 01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:41,840 Speaker 1: over the place. You see it all over the place. 1122 01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:45,400 Speaker 1: And then they have the pr staffers or whoever, like 1123 01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:49,160 Speaker 1: the really lowly coaching assistants like tell the media you're 1124 01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:51,160 Speaker 1: not allowed to do that. We're gonna change policy, changed 1125 01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:54,680 Speaker 1: policy a couple of days into practice. You're very important 1126 01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:58,480 Speaker 1: to make the wide receivers of the Bears. You humanize them. 1127 01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:00,840 Speaker 1: But then the coaching staff is referred to as the 1128 01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:05,520 Speaker 1: lowly members of the coaching staff. I get it. But 1129 01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:07,960 Speaker 1: table is the one who's being a jerk to them 1130 01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:09,919 Speaker 1: by like, okay, you gotta be the one to tell 1131 01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:11,800 Speaker 1: the media they can't send out videos. But then even 1132 01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:14,680 Speaker 1: lower than that is whoever stuck going into the crowd 1133 01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:22,480 Speaker 1: and stopping the fan. But but you know what's interesting, 1134 01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:24,600 Speaker 1: what was most interesting about it, and I think this 1135 01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:27,200 Speaker 1: was Dan Dugan of the athletics. Way to fight back, 1136 01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:30,640 Speaker 1: just a little bit was he said without mentioning. A 1137 01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:37,400 Speaker 1: source said that Dable has staffers monitoring other teams videos 1138 01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:40,680 Speaker 1: that have less stringent policy, So he actually believes there 1139 01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:43,000 Speaker 1: is a competitive advantage. But I like that, Duke, and 1140 01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:45,960 Speaker 1: put it out there that Dable's got people checking Twitter 1141 01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:49,120 Speaker 1: to find uh maybe let's say some division rivals or 1142 01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:51,880 Speaker 1: whatever that might be. Like they're doing like scouting reports 1143 01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:54,840 Speaker 1: on Twitter and into seeing what they can get. Yeah, listen, 1144 01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:57,040 Speaker 1: I'm not going to judge. Let's see how he does. 1145 01:01:57,480 --> 01:01:59,720 Speaker 1: Do you have anything else from your takeaways? Connie? Before 1146 01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:03,280 Speaker 1: we move? Those were the main ones. Those were the 1147 01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:05,640 Speaker 1: good ones. All right, keep following, Connie. She's going to 1148 01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:08,000 Speaker 1: Minnesota next where else You're going, Oh yeah, that's the 1149 01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:10,040 Speaker 1: last stop. Yeah, I think we're going to talk to Justin. 1150 01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:13,840 Speaker 1: You're gonna t g I Fridays in Minnesota, plush, Yes, 1151 01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:16,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to That same bartender still operates out 1152 01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:21,440 Speaker 1: of the hotel. Do you do you remember that? That's 1153 01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:23,800 Speaker 1: all I remember is that I walked out those doors 1154 01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:28,800 Speaker 1: and it was a short, cold waf It's not inann 1155 01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:31,760 Speaker 1: I believe, north of downtown and you were at the 1156 01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:35,760 Speaker 1: Mall of America doing that thing. Yes, check out the 1157 01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:39,920 Speaker 1: well known hotel chain that also has a t J Fridays. 1158 01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:42,920 Speaker 1: That is a very famous stop on the A t 1159 01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:46,400 Speaker 1: and History tour. Still to this day, the only guests 1160 01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:49,200 Speaker 1: of uh, we're lucky enough to be able to bring 1161 01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:50,840 Speaker 1: guests with the super Bowl, the only guests that we're 1162 01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:55,400 Speaker 1: still awake at three am and getting loose. Um. When 1163 01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:57,960 Speaker 1: we got back to the hotel after recording the super 1164 01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:00,960 Speaker 1: Bowl wrap up podcast, my bro there Kevin danger Hands 1165 01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:04,680 Speaker 1: and my brother in law Tanner Bates, U S Military 1166 01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:08,280 Speaker 1: man Um still the only people that were ever still rocking, 1167 01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:11,480 Speaker 1: good crew we got home. That was fun time with 1168 01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:13,960 Speaker 1: the Fridays. I can't figure which hotel this is. It's 1169 01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,360 Speaker 1: confusing because there's actually a Friday's in the mall of 1170 01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:20,120 Speaker 1: that's how popular and that's how good this Friday is 1171 01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:22,720 Speaker 1: is they have such great service that they've survived despite 1172 01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:27,000 Speaker 1: there being another Friday. Literally half of my all day 1173 01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:29,920 Speaker 1: the roller coaster and do all of the things that 1174 01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:32,960 Speaker 1: we had done right. Of course, I forget what other 1175 01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:36,520 Speaker 1: rides we wanted. That was long afternoon and there's probably 1176 01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:40,640 Speaker 1: no digital foot footprint of all at all connected, completely 1177 01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:43,920 Speaker 1: lost in the We do have the pictures though, of 1178 01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:47,560 Speaker 1: us um I love the West in those pictures is 1179 01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:52,080 Speaker 1: a standout. That's the first West had been like to me, Wow, 1180 01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:54,480 Speaker 1: I didn't realize that you were so pigeon toed. And 1181 01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:58,400 Speaker 1: I was like, thanks, West, thanks for noticing. Like when 1182 01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:02,680 Speaker 1: I get tired, it becomes more announced. West weirdly was 1183 01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:08,160 Speaker 1: super into people's gaits. He noticed everyone's different types of walks, 1184 01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:10,360 Speaker 1: and he would categorize them, and he would speak and 1185 01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:13,360 Speaker 1: analyze them. It's true. Often yeah, he was like, you know, 1186 01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:15,680 Speaker 1: some of the best athletes in the world are pigeon too. 1187 01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:22,160 Speaker 1: Pigeon he was part of the also have incredible calf muscles. 1188 01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:26,600 Speaker 1: I mean, that's sorry. He loved he loved calves and others. 1189 01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:28,920 Speaker 1: So maybe he was in my He loved he loved 1190 01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:34,600 Speaker 1: what was inside of him. Don't we all, um, all right, 1191 01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:37,880 Speaker 1: before we go, why don't we check in, uh quotables. 1192 01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:41,880 Speaker 1: What are some quotes that justin graver uh, sometimes with 1193 01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:44,720 Speaker 1: our assistants, sometimes on his own, came across in the 1194 01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:47,800 Speaker 1: last week or so, and let's react to them. But 1195 01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:50,440 Speaker 1: turn it over to you, Mr grave Digger. All right. 1196 01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:56,080 Speaker 1: I wanted to Yes, I really wanted to like expand 1197 01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:58,439 Speaker 1: and hear from some coaches or players that we hadn't 1198 01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:03,000 Speaker 1: heard from in the last segment. Unfortunately, is just so 1199 01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:08,160 Speaker 1: like he's perfect for this segment. Everyone was talking about 1200 01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:12,600 Speaker 1: this whenever never apologize. Yeah, I just you know, we're 1201 01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:14,040 Speaker 1: not a team that you know, We're not a team 1202 01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:15,760 Speaker 1: that reaches the ball across the goal line, you know. 1203 01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:19,120 Speaker 1: Uh um, you know. I told the guys, hey, after 1204 01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:21,280 Speaker 1: you score touchdowns, celebrate, have fun today. This is a 1205 01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:22,920 Speaker 1: this isn't a true game, but we're playing it like 1206 01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:26,480 Speaker 1: a game. But in between the white lions. So this 1207 01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:32,080 Speaker 1: was Baker Mayfield hit former Brown's teammate Chard higgins um 1208 01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:34,840 Speaker 1: for a touchdown and higgins leaning did they lean the 1209 01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:36,840 Speaker 1: ball over the thing? And rule kind of like shut 1210 01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:38,959 Speaker 1: the whole thing down and said, we don't celebrate that way. 1211 01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:41,320 Speaker 1: The Panthers don't operate that way. This is not how 1212 01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:44,600 Speaker 1: we we do things. And it caught fire on Twitter. 1213 01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:47,960 Speaker 1: You're saying, like in between the white lines, like celebrate 1214 01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:50,760 Speaker 1: but not don't celebrate first downs. I mean, I think 1215 01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:52,520 Speaker 1: it got missed considered a little bit because a lot 1216 01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:57,120 Speaker 1: of teams, I think smartly have a don't uh you know, 1217 01:05:57,120 --> 01:06:00,200 Speaker 1: put the ball over the goal line. The Patriot It's 1218 01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:02,640 Speaker 1: like every anytime someone messes up doing that. They're like, 1219 01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:05,720 Speaker 1: how come they don't just make them not do that? Yeah, 1220 01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:08,640 Speaker 1: you know what. I it's fine to get on. Matt 1221 01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:11,320 Speaker 1: rule has been incredibly unsuccessful so far, but I'm gonna 1222 01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:13,200 Speaker 1: give him a pass on this one. I'm sure it 1223 01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:15,600 Speaker 1: was used as a reason why he sucks again, but 1224 01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:17,240 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. I'm not buying this one. 1225 01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:19,440 Speaker 1: Everyone made fun of the we're not a team that 1226 01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:21,640 Speaker 1: reaches the ball across the goal line, like, oh, yeah, 1227 01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:24,640 Speaker 1: we know, don't score? Got it? Got it? Got it? 1228 01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:27,640 Speaker 1: He stepped right into that one. Whatever, what else? All right, 1229 01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:31,640 Speaker 1: here's Mike McCarthy explaining why he chose the mojo after 1230 01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:37,680 Speaker 1: a slow start here, what do why do you chose mojo? 1231 01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:41,640 Speaker 1: And Daddy's talking mojo moments again? Alright, yeah, this, let's 1232 01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:42,840 Speaker 1: hear it. You know, because when you get ready for 1233 01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:46,040 Speaker 1: team meeting, obviously you look at in your office and uh, 1234 01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:48,040 Speaker 1: sitting there watching my office, I just thought this thing 1235 01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:50,600 Speaker 1: was the funniest thing ever, you know, and then you 1236 01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:53,080 Speaker 1: play in the team meeting and that's not the response 1237 01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:56,000 Speaker 1: you get. And I said, I said, well, I obviously 1238 01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:57,760 Speaker 1: enjoyed us a lot more than they did, but they 1239 01:06:57,760 --> 01:06:59,959 Speaker 1: it made the point it's always trying to do something. 1240 01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:03,840 Speaker 1: Oh he's reflecting on last year on Hard It's back. 1241 01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:07,240 Speaker 1: I saw this actually doing to go well last summer. 1242 01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:09,440 Speaker 1: I did. I was doing my column and I saw 1243 01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:11,880 Speaker 1: last Monday he was talking about how he had brought 1244 01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:18,360 Speaker 1: mojo moments back last year because they were on Hard 1245 01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:21,640 Speaker 1: Knocks last year, of course, and um in his Mojo 1246 01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:24,640 Speaker 1: moments set up, he had a clip from Austin Powers 1247 01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:28,560 Speaker 1: to the Spy Shay and ninety percent of the roster 1248 01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:30,640 Speaker 1: wasn't even born when it came out. So maybe one 1249 01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:33,360 Speaker 1: thing he updated was some of his pop culture references 1250 01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:36,040 Speaker 1: within mojo moments. But I don't know right, And but 1251 01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:39,160 Speaker 1: he they're having a Kicker competition there. They both had 1252 01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:42,400 Speaker 1: Mojo moment opportunities. It was the first one of camp. 1253 01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:45,680 Speaker 1: Both kickers missed that was that was a bad side. 1254 01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:48,160 Speaker 1: But I just a mojo moment was it's a rare 1255 01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:50,400 Speaker 1: run where I think it actually somehow was even funnier 1256 01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:53,560 Speaker 1: in print. But this was part of the quote was 1257 01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:56,040 Speaker 1: he says, it's a clip all they'll never forget because 1258 01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:59,760 Speaker 1: it's just a little different. It's obnoxious talking about all right, 1259 01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:04,520 Speaker 1: one go this segment is nose diving? All right, what 1260 01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:09,600 Speaker 1: else we got that? Smith? This one's fun, right, and 1261 01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:12,080 Speaker 1: stop being critical of the quotable segment. You know it's 1262 01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:13,640 Speaker 1: just not to breathe a little bit. We don't need 1263 01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:17,559 Speaker 1: to post mortem every clip. I'm atting sort of a 1264 01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:21,680 Speaker 1: game show element where each one gets a score. I 1265 01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:25,680 Speaker 1: often support failing segments verbally, you believe the segment is 1266 01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:28,200 Speaker 1: failing something. I think it's fair to say that the 1267 01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:30,960 Speaker 1: last time we did it it was a rollicking event, 1268 01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:33,240 Speaker 1: and it's gotten off to a slow start. There's still 1269 01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:35,680 Speaker 1: time to recover. I would counter that. A reason why 1270 01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:38,080 Speaker 1: maybe it's not off to ah as fast at start 1271 01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:40,160 Speaker 1: is you guys won't shut up about saying what's working 1272 01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:43,679 Speaker 1: and what's not working. Why don't we just let it roll? Well, 1273 01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:47,000 Speaker 1: you're also critiquing our critique. So all right, you said 1274 01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:50,400 Speaker 1: Gino Smith. No, I know Geno Smith is going to 1275 01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:52,240 Speaker 1: bring the goods. Let's see what he's got to say. 1276 01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:55,479 Speaker 1: I will go on record to say I have his back, 1277 01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:58,040 Speaker 1: no matter what. I have Drew locks back. You know, 1278 01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:00,240 Speaker 1: I want that to be known. And we're team mates, 1279 01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:03,320 Speaker 1: we're competing, uh, you know, we're in the same offense. 1280 01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:05,559 Speaker 1: And we're in the same room and we're gonna make 1281 01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:08,439 Speaker 1: each other better. Unbelievable. Okay, this is great. I mean 1282 01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:12,040 Speaker 1: that's that's a teammate. When it's a teammate, I think 1283 01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:16,639 Speaker 1: Gino Smith and I absolutely Greg believe every time Jew 1284 01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:20,799 Speaker 1: Locke takes a snap, Gino Smith is the guy rooting 1285 01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:25,280 Speaker 1: for him the hardest on that side. He was then 1286 01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:31,640 Speaker 1: loving there scrimmage on Friday, Drew Lock started ten for 1287 01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:35,880 Speaker 1: ten for ten for one and two touchdowns to start 1288 01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:38,759 Speaker 1: off against the Seahawks first team offense. Still not getting 1289 01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:42,760 Speaker 1: first team reps, but Drew Lock won that round. Was 1290 01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:46,120 Speaker 1: that hard for you to see early? It's early, but 1291 01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:48,960 Speaker 1: I think it opens the door. Gino didn't do that 1292 01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:51,360 Speaker 1: bad either. He scored, you know his he ran the 1293 01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:53,360 Speaker 1: offense and the numbers were fine, and he scored a 1294 01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:55,760 Speaker 1: couple of times. But Lock, I've got a nice day. 1295 01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:58,200 Speaker 1: All right. Let's let's break down that one. How was that? Mark? 1296 01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:01,679 Speaker 1: I thought that one that that had better production elements 1297 01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:03,720 Speaker 1: to it. Um, it had more going on for it 1298 01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:07,200 Speaker 1: in general in terms of its spirit. Good. Okay, that's good. 1299 01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:10,320 Speaker 1: If it's a fast paced segment. Absolutely what else we got? 1300 01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:13,360 Speaker 1: All Right? Let's go to Dan's jets, all right and 1301 01:10:13,479 --> 01:10:18,240 Speaker 1: discussing the first round pick. Sauce Gardner. That's a great 1302 01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:21,679 Speaker 1: talented you know, obviously long lean athlete. You can see him, 1303 01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:23,840 Speaker 1: um so, but he's he's a mod right now until 1304 01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:25,800 Speaker 1: he until he gets to the field. He's not sauce 1305 01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:28,120 Speaker 1: yet until until he plays and he balls out, then 1306 01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:29,720 Speaker 1: we'll call him sauce. But he's a model right now. 1307 01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:32,000 Speaker 1: Little that's carl Lawson, by the way that Okay, I 1308 01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:34,320 Speaker 1: go to earn the sauce grave digger just to make 1309 01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:36,280 Speaker 1: the segments say, yeah, I really give a little more 1310 01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:40,160 Speaker 1: started playing it and he's not. Sorry, Carlson. We're getting 1311 01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:46,880 Speaker 1: we're getting better another definitely another season. We're working through stuff. 1312 01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:50,280 Speaker 1: That's good. That's good though, Lawson. Lawson's back and looking 1313 01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:52,559 Speaker 1: good too, so that's good. He's taken sort of the leadership. 1314 01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:55,519 Speaker 1: And also infamously, when we had Cavon Thibodeaux on the show, 1315 01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:58,800 Speaker 1: um last month, that's the right word for it, he said, 1316 01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:01,519 Speaker 1: I don't want anything to do you. Essentially, I don't 1317 01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:04,320 Speaker 1: want anything to do with any rookie hazing. Nobody can 1318 01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:06,479 Speaker 1: stick me with a bill, Nobody could do anything to me, 1319 01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:09,640 Speaker 1: I like this more old school mentality where it's like, 1320 01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:12,599 Speaker 1: I know you're Sauce Gardener in your mind and that's 1321 01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:14,960 Speaker 1: what your chain says, but you're a mod until your 1322 01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:17,679 Speaker 1: sauce on the fell field. I'm with it. You can't 1323 01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:20,000 Speaker 1: just like walk in here with that nickname and not 1324 01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:22,960 Speaker 1: earn it. Like that's. By the way, our friend Cavan 1325 01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:25,960 Speaker 1: is um having a very nice training camp according to 1326 01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:30,200 Speaker 1: multiple reports. I don't want anyone to misconstrue um our 1327 01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:36,080 Speaker 1: infamous interview interview. Yeah, for the first the first time 1328 01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:39,040 Speaker 1: when when Gregg moved to l A and we had 1329 01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:41,800 Speaker 1: we had started our version of our podcast, The Debate Club. 1330 01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:45,160 Speaker 1: Greg's only piece of advice was, if you're gonna do it, 1331 01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:48,200 Speaker 1: why not do this professionally? Why not have it be 1332 01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:53,200 Speaker 1: actually like a podcast that sounds professional. Right, sounds like 1333 01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:55,840 Speaker 1: an obnoxious comment from a guy. So I don't feed 1334 01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:59,960 Speaker 1: Greg to listen to the Cavan interview necessarily. Oh really don't. 1335 01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:02,439 Speaker 1: Now you're beating yourself up too much. Well, no, I'm 1336 01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:05,280 Speaker 1: saying it was not. It's not sounded professional. I think 1337 01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:07,160 Speaker 1: back in the day it was it was more of 1338 01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:10,919 Speaker 1: a sound quality thing, right, I think I missed this interview, 1339 01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:15,200 Speaker 1: but anyway, my point being, uh that you know, it's 1340 01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:17,680 Speaker 1: okay for a rookie to have to earn it in 1341 01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:20,519 Speaker 1: our league. That doesn't mean you have to tape him 1342 01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:25,200 Speaker 1: to the goal post. What else we got, Let's check 1343 01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:28,160 Speaker 1: in with Russell Wilson on how hard he's gonna work 1344 01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:31,160 Speaker 1: in Denver. Oh boy, here we go. Well, I think, 1345 01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:33,400 Speaker 1: first of all, I think that, uh, you know, for me, 1346 01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:37,439 Speaker 1: I've always been about, you know, the extra work. You know, 1347 01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:41,560 Speaker 1: if somebody says you gotta do x x amount, not 1348 01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:46,960 Speaker 1: triple it everything, just triple it. You can understand why 1349 01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:49,720 Speaker 1: he's a guy that's a source of eye rolls within 1350 01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:51,800 Speaker 1: his own locker room at times. I talked to him 1351 01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:55,519 Speaker 1: at training camp when I was in Denver, and you know, 1352 01:12:55,640 --> 01:13:00,320 Speaker 1: I tried to get him to answer something about see Attle. 1353 01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:03,920 Speaker 1: Tried to like walk m into something UM and asked 1354 01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:06,600 Speaker 1: him like about the importance of a first start considering 1355 01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:10,160 Speaker 1: their first game is against Seattle. UM. But what he 1356 01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:11,760 Speaker 1: ended he didn't go for any of it at all. 1357 01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:15,439 Speaker 1: But then he ended up talking and saying that you 1358 01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:20,679 Speaker 1: have to play without emotion, which I was like, wait, 1359 01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:25,200 Speaker 1: but isn't everything isn't competing like emotional, and he was like, 1360 01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:27,800 Speaker 1: you can play without emotion. You can be passionate, but 1361 01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:29,920 Speaker 1: not emotional, And so that was his whole thing about 1362 01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:36,719 Speaker 1: Seattle was not playing with any emotion. Interesting. Our friend 1363 01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:39,320 Speaker 1: Henry Hutson, it's you know, spent a lot of time 1364 01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:41,680 Speaker 1: with him over the years, once in Brazil and then 1365 01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:46,439 Speaker 1: recently in the UK when Dangerous was over there promoting 1366 01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:50,800 Speaker 1: something or other. Just like very tight. Yeah, it's there 1367 01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:52,519 Speaker 1: are stories, not all of them we could share on 1368 01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:55,439 Speaker 1: the show. Anything else, Grape Digger. I have two more. 1369 01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:59,479 Speaker 1: One is Ron Rivera speaking on Carson Wentz accuracy issues, 1370 01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:01,479 Speaker 1: which we and already touched on. What else you got? 1371 01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:06,400 Speaker 1: I have Dan campbell Um comparing wide receiver Josh Reynolds 1372 01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:08,479 Speaker 1: to an insect. You know, this is a good way 1373 01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:11,439 Speaker 1: to close with hard knocks on the way, all right. 1374 01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:16,160 Speaker 1: He's a different athlete. He's there's a slipper, he's slippery man. 1375 01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:20,680 Speaker 1: He's uh, he's come the praying mantis. Um. He's a 1376 01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:24,960 Speaker 1: spider of death. He's just there's suthing about him, you know, 1377 01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:33,519 Speaker 1: so freaking serpent him. I love him, Yes, Dan Camantis, 1378 01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:35,720 Speaker 1: spider of Death. And then he goes all the way 1379 01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:40,240 Speaker 1: to like a biblical level serpent bent. We'll be on 1380 01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:43,760 Speaker 1: Hard Knocks, I would imagine, I hope. So, I mean, yeah, 1381 01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:46,760 Speaker 1: that's like not what a Praying Mantis is like, right, Um, 1382 01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:50,160 Speaker 1: he's not the first thing speaking of you know, we 1383 01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:53,720 Speaker 1: spoke about the movie No Praying Mantis with a crucial roule. 1384 01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:56,400 Speaker 1: This is not giving anything away, but a crucial role 1385 01:14:56,880 --> 01:14:59,839 Speaker 1: in the movie. No speaking big summer for Praying Mantis. 1386 01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:03,960 Speaker 1: It is. It popped a big Manti season. Um, Colleen 1387 01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:08,760 Speaker 1: and I Hard Knocks podcast rolls out tomorrow night, so 1388 01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:13,280 Speaker 1: look for that in the feed. Also, this particular program, 1389 01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:16,080 Speaker 1: the Around the NFL podcast is now in addition to 1390 01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:19,439 Speaker 1: being on YouTube, which I think people knew but it is, 1391 01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:24,000 Speaker 1: we're also now on the NFL app. The NFL channel was, 1392 01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:27,559 Speaker 1: which is a new thing that's whatever wherever on your device, 1393 01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:30,759 Speaker 1: I guess, type in NFL channel and you can come 1394 01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:33,559 Speaker 1: up maybe a flashier name for that. Well, there's NFL 1395 01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:37,439 Speaker 1: Network and NFL Channel and some people probably call NFL 1396 01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:41,840 Speaker 1: Networks on your TV at home the little NFL app 1397 01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:44,240 Speaker 1: it's right there. Yeah, And if you have the NFL 1398 01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:46,240 Speaker 1: app on your phone, you just go to the top 1399 01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:49,000 Speaker 1: right menu, and then it can pull up like there's 1400 01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:53,320 Speaker 1: NFL Network, and then under that there's NFL channel right YouTube. 1401 01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:56,519 Speaker 1: I mean, famously, there's like a thirty seconds of the 1402 01:15:56,680 --> 01:16:00,280 Speaker 1: video rolling after we finished that people find see the 1403 01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:05,320 Speaker 1: real check Mark throwing off his head set and running out. 1404 01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:08,120 Speaker 1: Now that I think about it, me critiquing the name 1405 01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:10,519 Speaker 1: of the channel probably not going over very well with 1406 01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:14,559 Speaker 1: executives inside the building. Maybell Curtail that commented, of course, 1407 01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:16,800 Speaker 1: we're also now on NFL Plus, which is the new 1408 01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:23,080 Speaker 1: UM streaming service rolled out by NFL and UM that's 1409 01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:24,800 Speaker 1: also where you can get game passed. I thought it's 1410 01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:29,120 Speaker 1: a sensational product. Yeah, you go, subscription start at a month. 1411 01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:35,759 Speaker 1: Go to plus dot dot com. Now, all right, Connie, 1412 01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:38,360 Speaker 1: you've said it all. I will see you tomorrow. Thank you, 1413 01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:43,599 Speaker 1: Hard Knocks Podcast rolling out. Thank you to everybody for listening. 1414 01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:48,080 Speaker 1: We'll be back on Wednesday with another show. Until then, 1415 01:16:49,080 --> 01:17:00,200 Speaker 1: he the call s