1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: Disgraceland as a production of Double Elvis. The stories about 2 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: Christina Grimmy are heartbreaking. She was murdered by a crazed fan, stalked, hunted, 3 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: gunned down in cold blood. She was a rising star, 4 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: and at twenty two years old, she had already gone 5 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: viral on YouTube and finished third in a season of 6 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: NBC's singing competition show The Voice. But despite her public 7 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: image as a pop singer, Christina prepared for her own 8 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: concerts by listening to thrash metal at full volume. She 9 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 1: appreciated great music and aspired be someone who would make 10 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: great music for the rest of her life. Unlike that 11 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: music I played for you at the top of the show. 12 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: That wasn't great music. That was a preset loop for 13 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: my melotron called Heartbreaking Thrash MK one. I played you 14 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 1: that loop because I can't afford the rights to once 15 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: Dance by Drake featuring whiz Kid and Kyla. And why 16 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: would I play you that specific slice of Champagne Pappy Cheese? 17 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 2: Could I afford it? 18 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 1: Because that was the number one song in America on 19 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: June tenth, twenty sixteen, And that was the day Christina 20 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: Grimmy was gruesomely shot and killed after her show in Orlando, Florida, 21 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: during a meet and greet with her adoring fans. On 22 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: this episode, a crazed fan, a singer. 23 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 2: On the come up, a murder, and the viral TV 24 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 2: star Christina Grimmy. I'm Jake Brennan. 25 00:01:50,440 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 3: This is Disgraceland. 26 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: Fifteen year old Christina Grimmy sat in her New Jersey 27 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: home watching the second hand of the clock take another 28 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: slow lap around the dial, her eyes and thumbs ached 29 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: from ours playing Zelda. Not that she would admit it, 30 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: and just like she wouldn't admit that she was a 31 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: little tired of listening to albums by her beloved Metallica 32 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: and System of the Down. 33 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 2: But right now. 34 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: It seemed as though there was nothing to do but 35 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: watched the time tick away. It was the summer of 36 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: two thousand and nine, and like many other kids in America, 37 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: Christina Grimmy was not only bored, she was constantly being 38 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: reminded that she was bored. The ticking of the family clock, 39 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: the rhythmic shuffle of sprinklers on lush green lawns, the 40 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: languould drip, the leaky faucet coming from an otherwise quiet kitchen, 41 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: every tick, every sprinkle, every drip, the announcement of one 42 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: more second, passing with a glacier's pace. Christina leaned back 43 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 1: on the couch, grabbed the remote, and turned on the television. 44 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: A local news report flickered to life. The young anchor 45 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: was recounting the capture of the so called bicycle bandit, 46 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: a bank robber who wore a mask and used a 47 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: ten speed as his getaway vehicle. His most recent score 48 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: a TD bank in Vorheees, just minutes from Christina's family 49 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: home in Martin. The cops said, followed the bandit's trail 50 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: and discovered a hideout not so deep in the Jersey woods, 51 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: and I'm assuming spot where the bank robber's bike, a 52 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: bag stuffed with cash, a sweatshirt, a silver handgun, and 53 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: that mask now had him dead to rights. Christina turned 54 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: off the TV and did what she usually did when 55 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: she got this boord. 56 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 2: She sang. She walked back to her room and sat. 57 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: Down at the Yamaha keyboard set up there and her 58 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: back to the wall, where a Sonic the Hedgehog poster 59 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: hung at a slight tilt. She was just an American girl, 60 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: raised on promises, and you know how the rest of 61 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: that goes, but she could relate to her peers and 62 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: vice versa. She had ambitions just like anybody, including many 63 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 1: other girls her age who enjoyed singing in their bedrooms. 64 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 2: But Christina's natural. 65 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 1: Voice was a cut above the rest, and it was 66 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 1: that voice that inspired her friends to encourage Christina to 67 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: do something that would ensure that the summer of two 68 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: thousand and nine would be her last boring summer ever, 69 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: because that was the summer that Christina Grimmy began uploading 70 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: her performances at her keyboard to her YouTube channel, and 71 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: that was the summer in which one of those performances, 72 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: a cover of Miley Cyrus's Party in the USA, went viral, 73 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: talking millions of views, thousands of likes, and as the 74 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: views and the likes continued to amass, so did the 75 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: seconds in the minutes, and then the hours, and suddenly 76 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: time was no longer crawling. 77 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 2: Time was moving fast. 78 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: For a fifteen year old Christina Grimmy was surprisingly shrewd 79 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: with how she grew her online fan base. The natural 80 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 1: impulse for a singer, especially at a young age, is 81 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 1: to perform. 82 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 2: The kind of music that you love. 83 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: But instead of singing covers of songs by Metallica or 84 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: the other thrash. 85 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 2: Metal bands that Christina enjoyed. 86 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 1: Christina instead chose pop songs that were already successful on 87 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: the charts and popular with her age group songs by 88 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: Justin Bieber, Demi Lovado, Taylor Swift, and the Jonas Brothers. 89 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: And then, as her fame continued to blossom and as 90 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 1: she started to command the attention of music managers in 91 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 1: A and R scouts and record labels, she further endeared 92 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: herself to her adoring crowd by refusing to compromise her values. 93 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: She declined any offer that insisted she dressed more provocatively 94 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 1: than her customary outfit, which often consisted of a sharp 95 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 1: angled emo haircut and a few choice successories of studded belt, 96 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: studded bracelets, and a simple cross around her neck. She 97 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: was humble and grounded, and kept that way by her 98 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: supportive parents and by her older brother Marcus, who would 99 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: soon begin to accompany her on guitar and later would 100 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 1: become her tour manager when she found herself competing on 101 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: the national stage. To understand Christina Grimmy's quick rise online 102 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: is to understand the shifting dynamics of the music industry 103 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: circle the late two thousands in early twenty tens. By 104 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: October of two thousand and eight, less than a year 105 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: before Christina began uploading her performances to YouTube, the platform 106 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: was attracting one hundred million American viewers per day. That's 107 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: more than two thirds of all the Internet users in 108 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: the country at that time, and that doesn't even take 109 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: into account global data. The A and R gatekeeping system 110 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: at the record label is the way that the music 111 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: industry had operated for decades, in which label reps would 112 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: discover bands and artists performing at a club or a bar, 113 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: and then invest money and time into their growth before 114 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: the masses got to hear them. That was quickly falling 115 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: by the wayside in two thousand and eight when YouTube 116 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: came along, it accidentally launched a massive, open audition system 117 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: where artists could create their own audiences and form an 118 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: emotional bond with that audience without the assistance of a 119 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: record label's traditional scouting and promotional methods. But with one 120 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: viral video leading to the next, it did not take 121 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: long before the music industry took notice. In the case 122 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: of Christina Grimmy, her videos were seen by the mother 123 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: of Disney Channel star and singer Selena Gomez, who passed 124 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: them on to her husband, Selena's stepfather, Brian Tafei, a 125 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: professional music manager. With the help of Brian Tafe's management 126 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: skills and support dates on Selena Gomez's tour, Christina built 127 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: upon her organic online fan base of teens and young 128 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: adults who. 129 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 2: All saw themselves in her. 130 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: And not that her fans fancied themselves big time pop 131 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: stars in the making like Christina did. They were grounded, 132 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: humble like Christina was. Christina was loyal to her parents 133 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: and to her older brother and to the millions now clicking, 134 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: liking and subscribing, And for Christina, the reach could only 135 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: grow because, unlike a one off show at a club, 136 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: videos posted on YouTube existed in perpetuity, so you're always 137 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 1: racking up new hits, new shares, and new followers. From 138 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: Freehold to Tacoma, from Evanston to Amarillo all the way 139 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: to Florida were years later, after Christina's family had pulled 140 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: up roots from Regia and moved to Los Angeles so 141 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: she could pursue her career, and after she defied expectations 142 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,839 Speaker 1: by self releasing her own albums, and after she earned 143 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: a spot on that national stage via the NBC singing 144 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: competition The Voice. Her YouTube videos were discovered by a 145 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: man in Saint Petersburg, Florida named Kevin Lobel. Kevin fell 146 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: in love with Christina, just like the rest. 147 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 3: Of the country did it. 148 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: Only his love for her quickly turned into something else. 149 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: Now once it did time for Christina Grimmy, the grounded, humble, 150 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: uncompromising singer. Time was no longer moving faster or slow. 151 00:09:43,720 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: Time became something that was simply borrowed. Despite the two 152 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: Greek words from which it's derived, the term photophobia does 153 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: not actually denote the fear of light. Photophobia, or light aversion, 154 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: as it's sometimes called, is defined as an abnormal sensitivity 155 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: to light, especially of the eyes. According to the National 156 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: Library of Medicine, photophobia is a debilitating symptom in which 157 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: exposure of the eye to light induces and or exacerbates pain. 158 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: Photophobia is also very common. It affects around twenty percent 159 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: of the general population, with some studies indicating that the 160 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: number is even higher than that, and those who suffer 161 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: from photophobia squint or blink often. They tend to avoid 162 00:10:55,800 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: sunny days altogether, instead opting to remain inside until dusk, 163 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: like Kevin Loible, twenty six years old of Saint Petersburg, Florida, 164 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: When he wasn't working a shift at the local best 165 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: Buy weekends mostly part time, Kevin's photophobia kept him hidden 166 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: away in his bedroom the house where he lived with 167 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 1: his father and his brother. The windows were hermetically sealed, 168 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: heavy curtains were reinforced with strips of aluminum foil. Not 169 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: one sliver of sunlight found its way inside. But Kevin's 170 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: room was not pitch black. It was illuminated by the 171 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: glow of his computer screen. These days, the contents of 172 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: what appeared on his screen were predictably all the same, 173 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 1: and it wasn't porn or sports or Call of duty playthroughs, 174 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: as you might imagine for a twenty something reclusive loaner type. 175 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: The videos were of Christina Grimmy, Christina Grimmy's YouTube channel, 176 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: Christina Grimmy's social media accounts, clips of Christina Grimmy performing 177 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: on The Voice, in which she'd appeared two years earlier 178 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: in twenty fourteen as a contestant on season six. Kevin 179 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: was catching up on years of Christina Grimmy. He hadn't 180 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: been in on the ground floor like millions of others 181 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 1: back in two thousand and nine. But you didn't need 182 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: a ground floor when you had the Internet. It was 183 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: all here, preserved like a memory, a dream that you 184 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: could recall anytime you wanted to. And Kevin was watching 185 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: her now, specifically a clip of her blind audition for 186 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: the Celebrity Coaches of the Voice. Christina was singing the 187 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: Miley Cyrus song Wrecking Ball. It was a powerhouse performance 188 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 1: and Kevin could feel the connection almost as if he 189 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: was in the room with her, sitting in one of 190 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: those giant chairs that engulfed the shows for Celebrity Coaches. 191 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: And they called the Stars of the Voice coaches and 192 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 1: not judges, because their role is to recognize a talented 193 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,959 Speaker 1: singer and and coached them to success throughout the season. 194 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: With any luck, they'll coach their own unknown singer all 195 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: the way to the grand prize one hundred thousand dollars 196 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: in a recording contract. And the whole process begins with 197 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 1: what's called a blind audition, where the coaches listen with 198 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: their backs turned to the contestant. The idea of being 199 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 1: that a coach's decision to throw their hat into the 200 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: ring and offer to work with the contestant is based 201 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: solely on the contestant's voice. 202 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 2: It's right there in the title of the show. But 203 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:30,079 Speaker 2: you know, I digress. 204 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: Kevin, though, he watched this whole thing vicariously through the 205 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: eyes of each coach and their faces lighting up one 206 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: by one as Christina Grimy sang. They slammed their hands 207 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 1: down on giant staple sized buttons, which caused their oversized 208 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: chairs to spin around to put them face to face 209 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: with Christina's raw talent. First it was Usher, then Shakira, 210 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 1: then Adam Levine, and finally Blake Shelton. All four of 211 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: the judges were in awe, all four of them feeling 212 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: the same thing that Kevin Lougle was feeling. But for Kevin, 213 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 1: the feeling wasn't just awe. It was something else, something 214 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: as dark as his bedroom in Saint Petersburg obsession. Kevin 215 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: kept watching, and he was heartbroken when later in the 216 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: season Christina did not receive enough votes from viewers at home. 217 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: She finished in third place overall, but he wasn't surprised 218 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: when Christina's coach, Adam Levine from Maroon five, offered her 219 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: a spot on his own record label. He wasn't surprised 220 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: either when she turned Levine down to sign with Island Records, 221 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: the one time home of U two, Grace Jones and 222 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: of course Home of Bob Marley. And then when Island 223 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: Records dropped Christina before she could release a full length album, 224 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: wasn't surprised at that either, because Kevin, like many of 225 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: Christina's fans, knew that she hadn't failed. Instead, he knew 226 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: that she'd refused to compromise. She wasn't going to become something. 227 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: She wasn't just to make a buck for somebody else. 228 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: There was a purity to Christina. Kevin could see that 229 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: her purity was bright. It warmed his face like the 230 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: rays of the sun, but unlike the sun, it caused 231 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: him no pain. 232 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 2: Christina was the one light. 233 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: That shone on Kevin Louble's dark and anonymous world, a 234 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: world in which he lurked like so many others. While 235 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: Christina Grimmy livestreamed on Twitch, playing Super Smash Brothers on 236 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: her Nintendo and chatting it up with fans. And just 237 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: like YouTube had changed the way artists were discovered, YouTube 238 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: and Twitch and the Internet at large were now changing 239 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: how an artist connected with her fans. There was no 240 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: mystery left in celebrity. It was all out there. A 241 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: twitch stream could feel like an intimate hang, like you 242 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: were right there in the room with the person that 243 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: you were obsessed with, joking along and laughing and asking 244 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: questions that Christina Grimmy would actually answer. Right there in 245 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: the moment, the walls were breaking down, and for someone 246 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: desperately looking for connection alone, or perhaps a recluse who 247 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: only worked weekends, this experience had a potential to feel 248 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: more real than it actually was. After all, it was 249 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. Nobody met at a bar anymore. People found 250 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: each other online, dating apps, Instagram, dms. So twitch streams, 251 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: why not? So went to thinking For Kevin Loible. He 252 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: navigated to Christina's website, taking note of her recently announced 253 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: tour dates. She was playing Orlando in June, just a 254 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: few months from now, and the drive wasn't bad, about 255 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: one hundred miles from Saint Pete. And even better, Christina 256 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: was hosting a meet and greet after the show that 257 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 1: sealed it. Kevin bought a ticket, and when the date 258 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: arrived June tenth, he made the trek. 259 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 2: He knew what he was going to do, walk right 260 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 2: up to her, profess his. 261 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: Love, and then the light that was Christina Grimmy would 262 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 1: shine on his mole like existence. 263 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 2: Her light was already shining right now, like she was. 264 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: There in the room with him, like he was tearing 265 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: down the curtains from his windows, ripping off the pieces 266 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: of aluminum foil that had blocked the sun. But light 267 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: reveals the state of things, the dust, the dirt, the filth. 268 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: Then there was him. He stared at his reflection in 269 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: the mirror and thought about Christina looking at him the 270 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 1: way he'd just been looking at her. First impressions were 271 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: everything his poor eyesight, his thinning hair, his weight. 272 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 2: It was decided Kevin had to make some changes. 273 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: By twenty sixteen, two years after failing to win the 274 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: big prize in the Voice, Christina Grimmy had continued to 275 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 1: nurture her career with such care and caution that it 276 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: suggested a level of maturity far beyond. 277 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 2: Her twenty two years. 278 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 1: The bump she'd received on national television was nice at 279 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: the time, but it was easily forgotten by the time 280 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: a champion was crowned in the next season started up. 281 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 2: Christina was still able to do what she loved. 282 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: She was out there making music and playing shows, but 283 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: she was now doing it on a much smaller scale 284 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: than she'd once to match it. Yet the smaller scale 285 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: didn't bother. In fact, it was by design. She could 286 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 1: have bet at all pushed her chips in on the 287 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 1: deal with Island, but she knew. 288 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 2: That it wasn't the right fit. 289 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 3: Not now. 290 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: She was only twenty two, and there was time. We're 291 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: so want the thinking. Marcus Grimmy, her older brother, her collaborator, 292 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: her guitarist, and now her tour manager. He kept Christina 293 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: focused and kept her honest. Marcus knew the kind of 294 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,239 Speaker 1: talent that his sister possessed. He knew that it was 295 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: his job to hang back, just outside the spotlight and 296 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: play the supporting role. The shows these days were less produced, 297 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: which required less overhead, just a backing track over which 298 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: Marcus played guitar and Christina sang. 299 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 2: They were the. 300 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: Tour opener for a group called Before You Exit, a 301 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 1: trio of brothers who began playing while still in their 302 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: church youth group. But from Philadelphia to New York and 303 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: Chicago to Toronto, Christina was the altar at which fans worshiped. 304 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 1: Marcus would lean back and dig into his guitar, beaming 305 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: with pride and all the attention his sister drew from 306 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 1: city to city. The fans sang along all the songs 307 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:49,199 Speaker 1: from relatedt EP, the independently released side A, including the 308 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: songs she'd written on her own. 309 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 2: But they didn't even know the half of it. 310 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: They didn't know what it was like to listen to 311 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: the other side of Christina Grimmy, the grittier side, the 312 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: one that tour through led Zeppelin's Babe I'm Gonna Leave 313 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: You at soundcheck every night. Only Marcus knew what that 314 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 1: incredible experience felt like. These were the kinds of secrets 315 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: that Christina kept, like pregaming for a show by cranking 316 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:17,199 Speaker 1: thrash metal at full volume in her headphones, not the 317 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: broader style of pop music that she was identified with. 318 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: This is the trick of celebrity in the Internet age, 319 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: the trick of maintaining some sense of secrecy, even though 320 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 1: fans waiting for you in Washington, d C. In Atlanta 321 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: and very soon in Orlando, they think that they know 322 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 1: everything there is to know about you. Kevin Loibel thought 323 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: he knew everything about Christina, but he was about to 324 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:46,439 Speaker 1: discover that this was not true, just like his fellow 325 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: best Buy employees were about to discover something they didn't 326 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: know about Kevin Loibel. Kevin had been keeping to himself 327 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: at work ever since he told his co workers about 328 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: his plan to go see Christina Grimey in Orlando and Marrier. 329 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 2: Then they all gave a shit about it. 330 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 1: So he hit away in the stock room at best Buy, 331 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 1: just like he hit away in his bedroom at home. 332 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 2: But today was different. 333 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 1: Today, when Kevin arrived for a shift at work, he 334 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 1: wanted to be seen because Kevin no longer looked like himself. 335 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: He'd lost weight, his teeth were whitened, He'd got in 336 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: lacing surgery and hair implants. His physical transformation was shocking 337 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: for Kevin. It wasn't shock, It was simply intentional. It 338 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: was rising to meet the moment. Shock was something else, entirely. 339 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: Shock was what he felt just a short time later 340 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,199 Speaker 1: when he was looking at photos of Christina online and 341 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: saw something that made. 342 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,400 Speaker 2: Him question everything. 343 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: He remained a changed man who was on a mission. 344 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: Only now his mission had changed. It was no longer 345 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: a mission of love. It was one of retribution. He 346 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: flipped the hourglass. He held back the hands on the clock. 347 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: Kevin Loibel was now controlling time, and Christina Grimmy's time 348 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 1: was nearly up. 349 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 2: We'll be right back after this. We're we're, we're getting 350 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:32,880 Speaker 2: the gun was easy. 351 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: Florida had a five day waiting period and he had 352 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 1: no record, no priors, so he put down the money, 353 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: bided his time, and on May thirty first, Kevin Loibel 354 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: picked up his new Glock nine millimeter handgun. He decided 355 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: a second gun was only prudent insurance to get the 356 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 1: job done, so to speak, So one week later, on 357 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: June seventh, he returned to the shop to get another glock, 358 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 1: this one a slightly different model. Two days after that, 359 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 1: on June ninth, he left Saint Petersburg for Orlando, where 360 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: the following night, Christina Grimmy was scheduled to perform at 361 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: an independent music venue called the Plaza Live. Kevin Loible 362 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: packed light. He had his concert ticket, He had his guns. 363 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: He had an additional loaded mag for each piece. He 364 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 1: had a large hunting knife which he strapped to his ankle. 365 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: He was careful to cover his tracks. He destroyed the 366 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 1: hard drive on his computer back home and encrypted his 367 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: smartphone so that when all was said and done, the 368 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 1: police would be unable to learn much about him. He 369 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,959 Speaker 1: also left a handwritten note at his home to let 370 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: everyone know that he was sorry for what he was 371 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: about to do. They would never be able to know 372 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: exactly what set Kevin off, why he went from obsessing 373 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 1: over marrying Christina to obsessing over killing Christina. Later, through 374 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 1: interviews with those who knew him, including his best buy coworkers, 375 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 1: the cops would conclude that an online photo of Christina 376 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,880 Speaker 1: with another man was potentially the catalyst. That Kevin may 377 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: have felt betrayed at the sight of this photo, this 378 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,919 Speaker 1: mystery boyfriend, perhaps even though his own relationship with Christina 379 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 1: was in reality no more than a fantasy in his mind. 380 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: The fantasy turned dark that day, and when Kevin finally 381 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: hit the road on June ninth, he no longer had 382 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 1: wedding bells on the brain. He was thinking only of murder. 383 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 1: As Kevin Loyble was checking into the Courtyard by Marriott 384 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:35,360 Speaker 1: in Orlando, over four hundred miles away in Atlanta, Christina 385 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 1: Grimey and her brother Marcus were taking selfies with fans 386 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: at the meet and greet following that night's show. 387 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 2: On their tour. 388 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 1: Any sign of Christina's disappointment with being eliminated from the 389 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: Voice two years prior have been replaced by the overwhelming 390 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: gratitude she felt to be able to do what she did, 391 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 1: to travel from city to city, sing, hang out with 392 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 1: adoring fans, and share it all with her brother. It's 393 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,719 Speaker 1: sounded stupid and cliched to say out loud, but it 394 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 1: really was a. 395 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,479 Speaker 2: Dream come true. 396 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 1: After The Voice, she stayed busy. She entered and won 397 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 1: a different competition, this time the iHeartRadio Macy's Rising Star Contest, 398 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: which secured her a spot performing at the iHeartRadio Music 399 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: Festival in the fall of twenty fifteen, further raising her 400 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:24,199 Speaker 1: profile in. 401 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 2: The process and in the months since. 402 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: She'd returned to The Voice as the show's resident fashion 403 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: expert and spokesperson for Cole's. Her new EP, Side A, 404 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: which she was selling on her own at her show's 405 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: debuted at number twenty five on Billboard's Independent Chart, and 406 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: she was already at work on its follow up. 407 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 2: Side B. 408 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 1: After the last fan was out the door, Christina, Marcus 409 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 1: and the guys in Before You Exit packed up. The 410 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: next twenty four hours were standard tor Fair cheap hotel, 411 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: too wired to sleep early morning in the hum of 412 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 1: tires on the road long stretched down Ie seventy five 413 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: asphalt in Gridlock, and they pulled into Orlando in time 414 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: for soundcheck at the Plaza, live solid crowd that night. 415 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 2: She could feel the love. 416 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: And the show went as well as any on the tour, 417 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 1: though there was something extra special in the air, seeing 418 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 1: that Orlando was before you exits hometown. 419 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:21,919 Speaker 2: The meet and greet. 420 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: Which followed was the same as always, which is to 421 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,439 Speaker 1: say that Christina and Marcus had done this hundreds of 422 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: times and had it down to a science. Fans lined up, 423 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,919 Speaker 1: mostly teenage girls, and one by one they made their 424 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 1: way to Christina, who was always waiting for each of 425 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,439 Speaker 1: them with their arms wide open. There was a reason 426 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: that she was a spokesperson for Cohle's and not for 427 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: Prada or Louis Vatan. The teenagers and young adults engaging 428 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 1: with her in the flesh saw themselves in Christina. Christina 429 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: was there every woman. She was a hugger, humble and grounded. 430 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 1: She made everyone feel humble and grounded and safe. 431 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 2: But when it came to safety, precautions were taken. 432 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: Of course, there was security on site, but security wasn't 433 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: much more than a couple of big dudes in polo 434 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: shirts checking bags and purses at the entrance, and they 435 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 1: weren't armed, and there was no need. Christina's level of 436 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 1: fame and the size of the crowds were relatively low 437 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: and manageable by a small team. And this was still 438 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,919 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. Even Taylor Swift was a few years away 439 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: from combating the occupational hazard of stalkers by installing facial 440 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: recognition software at her shows. So Christina stood by the 441 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 1: merch table, her brother Marcus by her side, and threw 442 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: open her arms for the next girl waiting in line. 443 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 1: They hugged, and the girl began to smile and cry 444 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 1: at the same time, both relieved and overwhelmed at the moment. 445 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: And then the girl handed her phone to her mom, 446 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: who took a photo of her standing there with Christina's 447 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 1: arm around her waist, the girl wearing a Christina Grimmy 448 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,719 Speaker 1: T shirt, Christina still dressed in the black top matching 449 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: black skirt she'd worn for the show. 450 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 2: The flash from. 451 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: The foam went off and the girl stumbled over her words, 452 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,640 Speaker 1: trying to express her gratitude, and then the girl was gone, 453 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,360 Speaker 1: and it was time for the next fan in line. 454 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: But this next person looked much different from the rest 455 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: of the fans. Stepping toward Christina. Now wasn't another teenage girl, 456 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: but an adult male with bright white teeth and thinny, 457 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: dirty blonde hair. He wore a red, white and blue 458 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 1: flannel shirt, black jeans, and a black baseball cap. It 459 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,679 Speaker 1: didn't matter that he was different from the rest. A 460 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: fan was a fan, was a fan, no judgment. Christina 461 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: did what she always did, arms wide open, she went 462 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: for the hug, bring it in here, And as she did, 463 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 1: the man came in closer, but he didn't open his 464 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: arms and return. Instead, he reached behind him, his hand 465 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: on the back of his pants, pulling a glock nine 466 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: millimeter from the concealed nylon holster. 467 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 2: Christina barely had time to. 468 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 1: Clock exactly what was happening when the man raised the gun, 469 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: pointed it at her at close range, and. 470 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 4: Fired swer slower. 471 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: Marcus Grimmy was standing next to his sister when the 472 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: shots rang out, five of them in quick succession. They 473 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: sounded like balloons popping and echoing inside the small venue. 474 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: But when Marcus saw Christina suddenly dropped to the ground 475 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: and he looked up to see Kevin loidele standing there, 476 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: a man he did not know, a man his sister 477 00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: did not know, flannel shirt, black jeans, black cat, the 478 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: smoke rising from the muzzle, the glock in his hand. 479 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: Marcus panicked. The whole room was full of people who 480 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: were now panicking. Teenage girls were screaming. They were dropping 481 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 1: to the floor like Christina just had, flat on their stomachs, 482 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: their hands and arms wrapped tightly around their heads so 483 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: as to shield themselves from whatever harm was about to 484 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: befall them all. Marcus looked at Kevin, and then to 485 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: his sister, lying there lifeless on the floor of the plaza, 486 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: and then back to Marcus again. The panic melted away, 487 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: and Marcus was now vibrating. The adrenaline surged, his heart raised. 488 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: He was understanding what had just happened, but not wanting 489 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: to believe it. Spurred on in this moment by the 490 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: need to jump into action, by the need to do something, 491 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:49,479 Speaker 1: So he followed that impulse, that instinct, and he leapt forward, 492 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: grabbing Kevin Loible and knocking his body to the ground. 493 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: There the two men wrestled, and Marcus got his hands 494 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 1: around Kevin's hands, twisting and turning them back and forth, 495 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: and hopes that he could wrench gun away, and also 496 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: hoping that in doing so he wouldn't cause the gun 497 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: to go off again. It only took Marcus a few 498 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 1: seconds to accomplish what he set out to do. 499 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 2: He had the gun, no one else would be hurt. 500 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: Marcus stood up on his feet and Kevin did the same, 501 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: and the two squared off just a short distance apart, 502 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: and Marcus felt a sense of relief, even as his 503 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 1: heart continued to pound and his hands shook. And then 504 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 1: Marcus's hard won victory received a setback. 505 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 2: Kevin reached around to his back. 506 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: Again like he'd done a few moments before when he 507 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: shot Christina, and he pulled out the second gun, another 508 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: glock nine millimeter. 509 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 2: Now the panic had returned. 510 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 1: Marcus Grimmy's eyes were locked with the eyes of the 511 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 1: man who just put bullets into his sister, the same 512 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: man who had a second gun now pointing at him. 513 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 2: This was it. 514 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: The same thing that had happened to Christina was about 515 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: to happen to Marcus. And Marcus braced himself for the 516 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 1: sound for the deafening blast. 517 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 2: He wondered, if you would. 518 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 1: Hear it before the bullet pierced his skin before he 519 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: wound up down on the floor next to his sister. 520 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: The following few seconds felt like hours, but Kevin did 521 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: not fire at Marcus. Instead, Kevin Feuble took a few 522 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: steps back toward a nearby wall, raised the gun to 523 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: his own head, and pulled the trigger. The Orlando Police 524 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: Department received numerous nine to one to one calls at 525 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: ten twenty four pm on the evening of June tenth, 526 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, When first responders arrived at the Plaza Live, 527 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: they found the shooter, Kevin Loible, dead of a self 528 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: inflicted gunshot wound. The victim, Christina Grimmy, twenty two years old, 529 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: having given CPR by the father of the Before You 530 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 1: Exit band members, who found that she had a very 531 00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 1: weak pulse. Christina was rushed to nearby or Lane unto 532 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: Regional Medical Center, where she was pronounced dead a short 533 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: time later at ten fifty nine pm. Christina had been 534 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: shot three times in her torso and once in the side. 535 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 2: Of her head, and the head wound proved fatal. 536 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,719 Speaker 1: Marcus Grimmy walked the cops through it all, including how 537 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: he had knocked Kevin Louble down to the ground in 538 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: order to disarm him. Marcus was quickly hailed by Orlando 539 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 1: PD as a hero for. 540 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 2: Preventing further damage. 541 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 1: Homicide detectives traveled to the Saint Petersburg home of Kevin Loible, 542 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 1: where they found the computer with a damaged hard drive 543 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: in a note that he had left behind. 544 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 2: The note simply read, with all its. 545 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 1: Mistakes intact quote deepest sorrow for lost to the family, 546 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 1: friends and fans of the very talented, loving Christina Grimmy, 547 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: no other comments unquote. Kevin Loubele's father, brother, and coworkers 548 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: all provided their statements. Some of them were unaware of 549 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: Kevin's obsession, while others had noticed that said obsession had 550 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,719 Speaker 1: grown unhealthy in the last six to eight weeks. Kevin's 551 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: fellow Best Buy employee and best friend of fifteen years, 552 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: Corey Dennington, described to the detectives a man who had 553 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: been quickly. 554 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,320 Speaker 2: Losing his grip on reality. 555 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 1: He said that Kevin spent most of his waking hours 556 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 1: when not at work, following Christina Grimmy online, including her 557 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: social media accounts, even though Kevin himself did not have. 558 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 2: Any social media accounts. 559 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,399 Speaker 1: Corey, the employee, confirmed that Kevin had made all those 560 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 1: changes to his appearance, his hair, his eyes, his teeth, 561 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 1: his weight for Christina Grimmy's benefit, because he firmly believed 562 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 1: that they were going to be together. Corey even revealed 563 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 1: how Kevin, a self described atheist, had claimed that Christina's 564 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 1: faith had inspired him to reassess his own beliefs, and furthermore, 565 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,359 Speaker 1: Kevin had said that if God did exist, then he 566 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: saw God in Christina Grimmy. Even more troubling, the last 567 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 1: thing Kevin said to Corey just days before leaving for 568 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:02,879 Speaker 1: Orlando was that. 569 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 2: He was tired and was ready to ascend. 570 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 1: Only now in hindsight did those comments strike Kevin's co 571 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:16,359 Speaker 1: worker as troubling, Perhaps because none of us expect that 572 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 1: one of our friends or co workers is capable of murder, 573 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 1: And so again we're faced with the question of motive here. 574 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,879 Speaker 1: Why did Kevin Loible do it? Why did he kill 575 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 1: the person he professed to be in love with. TMZ 576 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 1: reported at the time that another one of Kevin's co 577 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 1: workers had told them he had seen a photograph of 578 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:42,280 Speaker 1: Christina with her male producer, and that Kevin, upon seeing 579 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: the photo, was sent into a rage. But when Orlando 580 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: detectives spoke with Kevin's other coworkers, none of them confirm 581 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 1: they were the source who had spoken to TMZ, So 582 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 1: whatever the explanation, it wasn't going to bring Christina Grimmy back. 583 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 1: And now Marcus Grimmy left to grieve the loss of 584 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 1: his little sister, as were their parents, a mother and 585 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 1: father who had been so instrumental in helping Christina pursue 586 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 1: her dream. Like the Grimmy family, the rest of the 587 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:16,840 Speaker 1: pop world also went In the morning, Selena Gomez, Demi Levado, 588 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 1: Nick Jonas, and others who knew Christina took to Instagram 589 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: and Twitter, and his Instagram post. Adam Levine, Christina's coach 590 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: and the voice and one of her biggest supporters, shared 591 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 1: a selfie of the two of them with a caption 592 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 1: that read, I'm sad, shocked. 593 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 2: And confused. We love you so much, Grimy. We are 594 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,839 Speaker 2: all praying hard that you can pull through this. This 595 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 2: just isn't fair. 596 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 1: That one line we are all praying hard that you 597 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 1: can pull through this. It stands out because at the 598 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 1: time when Levin posted this, Christina Grimmy had already been 599 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: pronounced dead. That said shock is a hell of a thing, 600 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 1: as his love, as his hope, as is the fucked 601 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:03,359 Speaker 1: up process that is green. Adam Levine, for one, didn't 602 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 1: know what the hell to do, so he offered. 603 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:06,800 Speaker 2: To pay for Christina's funeral. 604 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 1: Meanwhile, back in Orlando, tragedy multiplied a little over twenty 605 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 1: four hours after Christina Grimmy was gunned down at the 606 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 1: Plaza Live, only a few miles away, another gunman, a 607 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 1: different gunman, walked into a gay nightclub called Pulse and 608 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 1: shot and killed forty nine people, wounding another fifty eight. 609 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 1: The mass casualty event quickly overshadowed the news of Christina 610 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:38,319 Speaker 1: Grimmy's murder on a national level, just another example of 611 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 1: the erratic influence of time in the news cycle and 612 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 1: in our culture. Because even though she may have been overshadowed, 613 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 1: Christina Grimmy has not been forgotten. Time won't let us forget, 614 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,399 Speaker 1: even if time can also take from us far too 615 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:02,319 Speaker 1: soon the people that we love, and for that, the 616 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,280 Speaker 1: cruel nature with which time barrels ahead can be such 617 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 1: a disgrace. I'm Jake Brennan in this this disgracelaand all right, guys, 618 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,440 Speaker 1: thanks for hanging with me. In another episode of disgrace, 619 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 1: and a heavy one, very very heavy. This week's question 620 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:38,400 Speaker 1: of the week, which rock stars murder, assassination, whatever you 621 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:42,399 Speaker 1: want to call it due to obsession has wrecked you 622 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:48,280 Speaker 1: the most emotionally? Okay, fans of Christina Grimmy, Dine Back, Darryl, 623 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:52,279 Speaker 1: John Lennon, This there's a lot, unfortunately, And you know, 624 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,320 Speaker 1: I still remember how I felt as a little boy, 625 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 1: very little actually when when John Lennon was killed, and 626 00:38:58,200 --> 00:38:59,880 Speaker 1: that feeling has stayed with me. 627 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 2: So that's what I want to unpack with you. 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