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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Lewis Riddick of the mother Ship ESPN NFL College football analyst,

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Speaker 2: did the Giants get the right guy?

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Speaker 3: Lewis?

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Speaker 4: No question. Look, Dan, I've known John for a long time.

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Speaker 4: He was an assistant. I don't know if he's a

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Speaker 4: grad assistant or just an assistant on our staff at

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Speaker 4: the University of Pittsburgh when I was there as a

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Speaker 4: freshman and sophomore. I believe he was there with his dad,

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Speaker 4: Jack So, who was a great friend of Mike Godfred.

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Speaker 4: So I've known John a long long time. I know

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Speaker 4: what his family values and how they look at the

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Speaker 4: game of football. I've been able, I've been fortunate enough

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Speaker 4: along with our team to call multiple Money Night games

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Speaker 4: and talk to him multiple occasions about team building, player development,

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Speaker 4: roster construction, coaching staff construction, philosophical beliefs, you know, as

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Speaker 4: far as how the game needs to be played. And

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you to me, he is the true definition

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Speaker 4: of a CEO when you're talking about a head coach

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Speaker 4: and what that role really does entail. Because he started

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Speaker 4: off as a special teams coach, right and then Andy

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Speaker 4: gave more exposure to defense to kind of round out

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Speaker 4: his resume a little bit more when he was coaching

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Speaker 4: there so he could become a head coach. I think

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Speaker 4: he is someone who you know on the way out

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Speaker 4: in Baltimore, like something just doesn't sit well with me

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Speaker 4: with the way that all went down because of the

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Speaker 4: role that I know that player accountability plays in team underperformance, right,

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Speaker 4: And obviously we live in a world in a society

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Speaker 4: where everyone's looking for I gotta find that guy who

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Speaker 4: I can hang it on, that guy who I can

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Speaker 4: put it around his neck, and that guy who I

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Speaker 4: can hold accountable. And there's a lot of people who

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Speaker 4: behind the scenes who sit back and just kind of go,

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Speaker 4: who will I escape that one? Who will I escape that?

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Speaker 4: There's a lot that went into that team's underperformance, in

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Speaker 4: my belief, and I think, yeah, spinning it forward. I

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Speaker 4: love what coach day Ball did as far as really

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Speaker 4: vouching for Jackson Dart and kind of selling him to

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Speaker 4: John and obviously ownership up there is going to give

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Speaker 4: him everything that he needs and it's a quick trip

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Speaker 4: right up ninety five man for him, which is super cool,

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Speaker 4: and I think he's going to do a hell of

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Speaker 4: a job. I think he's going to be recharged and

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Speaker 4: kick it right in the ass like he should.

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Speaker 2: Was this the best opening in your opinion?

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Speaker 4: I think because of the quarterback situation, in the young

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Speaker 4: pieces situation, where if you were like to list the

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Speaker 4: top five positions on a football team that you needed

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Speaker 4: to have in place in order to then fill out

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Speaker 4: everything around it. Yeah, I think when you look at

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Speaker 4: the fact that you have Jackson Elik coming back, you

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Speaker 4: have edge pass rushers, you have a guy who can

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Speaker 4: be a workhorse every down back, he's going to still

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Speaker 4: need to fix that offensive line and make it something

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Speaker 4: that becomes more consistent.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I think there's a lot of things in place right

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Speaker 4: there now. Obviously, player identification, selection development, all that stuff

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Speaker 4: has to still happen, but yeah, a lot of the

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Speaker 4: foundation is right there. It really is. And I think,

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Speaker 4: like you know, the big Blue fan base is as

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Speaker 4: passionate as there is in football. There's a lot of

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Speaker 4: alumni who are sitting there going thank you, thank you,

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Speaker 4: you know, and I think he's gonna have a lot

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Speaker 4: of support behind him and a lot of wind pushing

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Speaker 4: him along to where I think this is going to

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Speaker 4: be a spot where now the Giants. Giants are gonna

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Speaker 4: be players again. For real.

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Speaker 2: Let's take out the legacy of the Steelers. Let's just

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Speaker 2: look at what that roster is. M h. How good

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Speaker 2: a job is this?

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Speaker 4: Look? I think the number one Okay, So when you

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Speaker 4: look at how good of a job is it, if

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Speaker 4: we're talking about excuse me, ownership, structure, instability plus GM quarterback,

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Speaker 4: all that alignment, that that really does factor and know

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Speaker 4: how good of a job is Look, ownership quarterback ownership

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Speaker 4: is rock solid. So you know that they're gonna there's

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Speaker 4: someone who's gonna really try and identify a person that

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Speaker 4: give him a lot of leeway in order to kind

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Speaker 4: of learn on the job, just like they did with Mike,

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Speaker 4: just like they did with coach Kauer, just like they

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Speaker 4: it attractive immediately Number one, because you know you're gonna

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Speaker 4: because they don't have a quarterback. So I think that

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Speaker 4: may knock it down for some and people are gonna go, well,

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Speaker 4: what the hell they're gonna do there? Well, that's a

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Speaker 4: great question. Well, that's part of the deal. That's why

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Speaker 4: they're kind of in this situation in the first place.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of what more war mic out, I believe

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Speaker 4: at the end, along with a bunch of other things,

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Speaker 4: the fact that they just couldn't get that position right.

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Speaker 4: But I think once they figure that out, I think

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Speaker 4: there are some young pieces on the offensive line. I

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Speaker 4: think you have to continue to fill out the wide

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Speaker 4: receiver corps around DK Metcalf and make sure that that

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Speaker 4: is that is a position of strength running backs, a

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Speaker 4: position of strength. Defense is aging in, probably a little

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Speaker 4: bit too high priced for long term sustainability and needs

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Speaker 4: to be revamped and rebooted. There's this So there's so

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Speaker 4: many things though that will make that place attractive to

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Speaker 4: top level coaches for sure. And number one is the

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Speaker 4: fact that they're not just gonna turn over coaches at

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Speaker 4: the first sign of there being some kind of adversity

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Speaker 4: like every like so many other places do. And that's

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Speaker 4: probably the number one thing that perspective head coaches should

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Speaker 4: be looking for. How much time is the coach going

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Speaker 4: to give you, how much I mean, is the owner

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Speaker 4: how much support are they gonna give you to go

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Speaker 4: out and get the assets that you need. Mister Rooney

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Speaker 4: will do what he needs to do in order to

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Speaker 4: get them what they need to get to make this

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Speaker 4: team successful. Simple as that. Then it's up to Omar

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Speaker 2: But you look at certain openings, you got to win now.

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Speaker 2: In Pittsburgh, it's not just get to the playoffs. You

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Speaker 2: got to win now. In Baltimore, it's not just get

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Speaker 2: to the playoffs. Whereas Atlanta, Miami, Cleveland, Arizona, Tennessee, even

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Speaker 2: the Giants, you get a grace period. You walk into Baltimore,

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Speaker 2: you better make the playoffs and people the way.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what's interesting about that. I kind of

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Speaker 4: look at those two teams a little bit different simply because, look,

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Speaker 4: in Pittsburgh, you better win now, simply because Mike always

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Speaker 4: kept it above water, right. He was always in the hunt,

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Speaker 4: in the hunt, in the hunt, but just couldn't get

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Speaker 4: want if you want to pin it on his scheme, strategy, tactics,

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Speaker 4: lack of quarterback play, whatever you wanted to pin it on.

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Speaker 4: But the fact is now that one crucial piece that

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Speaker 4: is not there. So there's gonna be need to be

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Speaker 4: an adjustment of expectations there.

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Speaker 3: There just is.

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Speaker 4: And I think and I think mister Roneal figure it

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Speaker 4: like he knows that although he says, hey, look this

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Speaker 4: isn't a retool, I mean, this isn't a rebuild. Okay,

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Speaker 4: you can say that now, But the reality is, what's

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Speaker 4: your answer then, what's your answer at quarterback at Baltimore?

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Speaker 4: I agree with you for a sure better win now.

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Speaker 4: And I'll tell you what, I'll even take it a

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Speaker 4: step further. The players that are there, they're the ones

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Speaker 4: who better make sure that they win now because one

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Speaker 4: of the reasons why I think one of the primary

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Speaker 4: reasons why John is not there is because the player, well,

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Speaker 4: there's a number of different things. One, we talked about

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Speaker 4: this being maybe one of the best rosters in football,

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Speaker 4: et cetera, et cetera all the time, Eh this year

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Speaker 4: maybe not. Maybe look at their front seven and look

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Speaker 4: at how how many injuries they suffered on the front

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Speaker 4: that really did limit the things that they could do defensively.

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Speaker 4: But number two, their best players need to practice, need

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Speaker 4: to hold themselves accountable, need to be held accountable, need

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Speaker 4: to know the scheme inside and out, need to be

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Speaker 4: able to execute at a high level at all times.

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Speaker 4: And those are things that I'll tell you what. Coaches

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Speaker 4: can only do so much. They're gonna get a fantastic coach,

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Speaker 4: there's no question about that. But the players have to

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Speaker 4: pull their weight. The players have to own up. Didn't

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Speaker 4: you heard We just heard Jason Kelsey talking about this

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Speaker 4: the other day with Philadelphia where he was screaming about

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Speaker 4: the fact that you know, we can sit there and

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Speaker 4: we get pin it on Nick Sirianni and Kevin Patulo

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Speaker 4: and just kick them in the ass all we want about, Well,

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Speaker 4: their scheme sucks, it's vanilla, it's this, It's that. It's just,

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Speaker 4: you know, we get so far away from sometimes about

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Speaker 4: the fact that you know, I don't know too many. Look,

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Speaker 4: I've been around some bad coaches. Don't get me wrong.

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Speaker 4: I've been around some coaches. Didn't teach me anything, But

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Speaker 4: by and large, I'm gonna have some some faith in

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Speaker 4: the fact that, you know what, the NFL is comprised

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Speaker 4: the people who are pretty competent of their at their job.

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Speaker 4: I was never coached ever to fumble the football, jump

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Speaker 4: bad angles to the football, not wrap up when you're

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Speaker 4: supposed to tackle. I was never coached to do that

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Speaker 4: kind of stuff. But now as soon as players don't

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Speaker 4: do that, fire the coach, get his ass out of it,

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Speaker 4: get someone else, Fire the coach. They're not good, they're not.

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Speaker 4: It's like, hey, if Baltimore has that good of a

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Speaker 4: roster like everyone says they do, and they should be

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Speaker 4: playing a lot better than what they are, and you're right,

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Speaker 4: they better win next year right away, no question about it.

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Speaker 2: Talking to Lewis Riddick of The Mothership, their NFL college

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Speaker 2: football analyst, what is Aaron Rodgers' football future?

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Speaker 4: I would never speak for Aaron Rodgers, but I think

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Speaker 4: mister Rooney put it bluntly. I think in Pittsburgh it's

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Speaker 4: probably it's done. He said he came here to play

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Speaker 4: for Mike. Mike's gone. I think that pretty much closes.

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Speaker 4: He didn't say it closes the door on that, but

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Speaker 4: I think it closed the door on that. I don't,

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I thought that really was an ideal

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Speaker 4: spot for him. I thought that he needed Mike. Mike

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Speaker 4: needed him given where they were at, you know, as

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Speaker 4: far as Mike where he was at in his tenure,

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Speaker 4: he probably knew that was his last run, and Aaron

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Speaker 4: probably needed to just go somewhere where he really respected

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Speaker 4: that guy great, you know, great traditional like blue blood

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Speaker 4: organization and where he would just play ball. And that's

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Speaker 4: what he did to the best of visibility. I don't

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Speaker 4: know what where else you can go to really top that.

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Speaker 4: At this point, he ain't going to wear his no backup.

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Speaker 4: He's not going Aaron. I think we may have seen

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Speaker 4: the last of them. I don't know, but that would

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Speaker 4: be my guess.

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Speaker 2: Give me the road team that wins this weekend.

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Speaker 4: Oh boy, I'm actually trying to think who was on

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Speaker 4: the road.

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Speaker 2: Buffalo's in Denver, Houston's in New England, you got the

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Speaker 2: Niners in Seattle. Rams. I think I think Rams are favored.

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Speaker 2: Let's let's take them out of this.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know what, I think Houston is probably

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Speaker 4: the one that because their defense Dan is so nasty, physical,

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Speaker 4: all of them, every single one but Dimico Ryans is

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Speaker 4: Uh, but you weren't going to rattle. Well, there's just

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but Neil o'donald's not the quarterback that I thought

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Speaker 4: He was the reincarnation, the literal reincarnation of Steve Young.

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Speaker 4: That's what he was. And there's nobody who I respect

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Speaker 2: Was it Keenan McCardell, Yeah, And Jimmy Smith, Jimmy Smith

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Speaker 4: Hey and Kyle Brady, right, I think he was.

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Speaker 2: Boomer Sison, co host of wfa NS Boomer and Go

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Speaker 2: and of course a quarterback for fourteen years. Good to

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Speaker 2: talk to you, Boomer. Did the Giants get it right?

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Speaker 5: Good to see you, Dano, And sorry about my background.

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Speaker 5: your your studio there that has a ton of stuff

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Speaker 5: in it. By the way, you're like a hoarder, Yes,

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Speaker 5: I want everything you got in there.

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Speaker 2: And believe you know what, I was called a collector

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Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden they came up with

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Speaker 5: By the way, A happy Harball day here in New York.

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Speaker 5: For sure. The Giants got this one right. And no,

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Speaker 5: I don't want to talk about the nineteen eighty five

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Speaker 5: Bears because they kicked my ass many times. But yeah,

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Speaker 5: they needed they needed somebody here, Dan, They needed credibility.

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Speaker 5: They needed instant credibility. They do have a quarterback, as

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Speaker 5: really good. I think Todd Monkin is going to be

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Speaker 5: Mounkin was the offensive play caller. They had the number

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Speaker 5: he won one of his MVPs. And that's exactly what

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Speaker 5: Mara very happy, who's obviously ill dealing with cancer. I

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Speaker 5: thought Chris Mahra's initial fora down to Baltimore last week

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Speaker 5: to have lunch with John Merraw. I mean, John Harbaugh

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Speaker 2: But you go from Baltimore where you have to win,

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Speaker 2: you got a Super Bowl roster, to now the Giants.

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Speaker 2: How much time do they give him to get this

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Speaker 5: I mean Kenny Poe, Ben John, Kenny Paul, Mike Grabel.

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Speaker 5: mainly on defense, and then the Bears spent mainly on

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Speaker 5: really what needs the most work. And it'll be interesting

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Speaker 5: I haven't heard that yet.

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Speaker 2: What would you can you teach Jackson Dart to play differently?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 5: You know you always do is learn. I call it

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Speaker 5: to his team that he belongs on the field. I

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Speaker 5: He wants to lead by example. He does remind me

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Speaker 5: a little bit of Josh Allen the way he plays

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Speaker 5: And Josh has learned and nobody does it better than

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Speaker 5: Josh for that matter. But I remember when he was

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Speaker 5: a rookie and even to a second year, they were

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Speaker 5: saying the same things about him Dan that they're saying

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Speaker 5: But blieve me, he will learn quickly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, Josh wasn't in the blue tenth

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Speaker 2: I mean, come on, slide, It's okay.

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Speaker 5: Well, I know, and you know, he actually did learn

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Speaker 5: you know, towards the end of the year against the

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Speaker 5: Raiders and at home, he learned how to play the

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Speaker 5: position better. I mean, look, he's a football player. That's

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Speaker 5: what I love about him more than anything else. You know,

437
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Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes, he's a football player. Drake May, He's a

438
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Speaker 5: football player. CJ. Stroud. I mean, these guys all loved

439
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Speaker 5: getting mixed up into the action and taking some hits.

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Speaker 5: Maybe I was not one of those types of guys.

441
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Speaker 5: I always tried to stay away from him as much

442
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Speaker 5: as I could, and maybe that's why I lasted so long.

443
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Speaker 5: But again, like I don't want to take the inner

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Speaker 5: football player out of him because that's what makes him

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Speaker 5: so special.

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Speaker 2: Why did the Jets always get it wrong?

447
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Speaker 5: Well, you know, it always starts at ownership. That's where

448
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 5: it always starts. And you know they've they've gone this

449
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Speaker 5: coordinator route for many years, and they were really close

450
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Speaker 5: when they first acquired Aaron Rodgers. You know, when Aaron

451
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Speaker 5: came running out in that field that first September eleventh

452
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Speaker 5: with the flag and then it gave me chills and

453
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Speaker 5: I wish, I wish that I could have been in

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Speaker 5: that uniform like he was that night and what it

455
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Speaker 5: really brought to all of us as football fans here

456
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Speaker 5: in New York. And then what three or four plays

457
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Speaker 5: in he blows out as a kill. I mean, that

458
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 5: was the moment where the Jets had it right, and

459
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Speaker 5: he came back and had a pretty good second year,

460
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Speaker 5: by the way, but then Woody Johnson got involved and

461
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Speaker 5: they fired Rob Slid and then all hell breaks loose.

462
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Speaker 5: So now Darren Mujie's got to pick up the pieces.

463
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Speaker 5: I would say that Darren's done a great job here

464
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Speaker 5: in terms of acquiring assets for a team that desperately

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Speaker 5: needs them. But until they find a quarterback, they're going

466
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Speaker 5: to be stuck in neutral too, just like every other

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Speaker 5: team that's in their same situation.

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Speaker 2: Talking to Boomer as sisin, co host of wf Fans,

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Speaker 2: Boomer and Geo, what do you do with that second

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Speaker 2: pick in the draft? Now that Dante Moore is going

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Speaker 2: back to Oregon.

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Speaker 5: I think the Jets lucked out, and I think Dante

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Speaker 5: Moore is making a fifty million dollar bet. I that

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Speaker 5: would be hard for me to do that, but I

475
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Speaker 5: had advised him on our show here in New York,

476
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Speaker 5: please stay in school. You need more playing time. And

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Speaker 5: I think he made the right decision, and I'm sure

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Speaker 5: he's going to get a nice paycheck from Oregon, but

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Speaker 5: he's making a fifty million dollar bet on himself, which

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Speaker 5: is really quite amazing. So for the Jets, that's the

481
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Speaker 5: second pick can be anywhere from you know, one of

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Speaker 5: these top defensive players from Ohio State, maybe at edge rusher.

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Speaker 5: It also could be another wide receiver to go along

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Speaker 5: with Garrett Wilson, I mean, or trade out of it

485
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Speaker 5: and even add more assets, which would probably be the

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Speaker 5: smart thing to do, because you know, the draft is

487
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Speaker 5: a is a you know, it's lottery picks, and you

488
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Speaker 5: want more shots on gold than you can possibly get.

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Speaker 5: And that's one thing that Jets have going for them

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Speaker 5: going into this year's draft.

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Speaker 2: What about Malik Willis or Mac Jones?

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Speaker 5: You know, do they want to come here? That's the thing,

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Speaker 5: you know. I mean, that's if Mac Jones want to

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Speaker 5: come play for the Jets. I don't see that, and

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Speaker 5: they would have to trade for him. He's got another

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Speaker 5: year in his contract with San Francisco. Malik will be

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Speaker 5: an unrestricted free agent. I would hope that somehow Green

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Speaker 5: Bay would be able to keep him. But I if

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Speaker 5: I were him, I'd want to go be a starter

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Speaker 5: somewhere or at least have a shot to be a

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Speaker 5: starter somewhere in Green Bay. That's not going to be

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Speaker 5: the case, but I could see the Jets trying to

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Speaker 5: maybe use him as some sort of of, I don't know,

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Speaker 5: gap year quarterback if you want, if you want to

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Speaker 5: say that. But then again, remember next year's quarterback class

506
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Speaker 5: could include Arch Manning and it's probable and it will

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Speaker 5: include Dante Moore and a few other guys, So maybe

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Speaker 5: they'll be in a better situation a draft one of

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Speaker 5: those guys next year, meaning that I don't think you

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Speaker 5: want to go out there and try to win six

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Speaker 5: or seven games. I mean, really, realistically, you look at it.

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Speaker 5: If you want one of those young quarterbacks that is

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Speaker 5: going to change your franchise like Jackson Darter is doing

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Speaker 5: here for the Giants, you're going to have to have

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Speaker 5: another bad year next year to be at the top

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Speaker 5: of that draft to be able to select that guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but Boomer, they're trying to win six or seven

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Speaker 2: games and they can't do it. So it's not like.

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Speaker 5: I said, I was there for three years, I had

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Speaker 5: three different head coaches, you know, it was. It was crazy,

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Speaker 5: And I always scream about one thing then in professional football,

522
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Speaker 5: professional sports for that matter, is stability. You want to

523
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Speaker 5: know who's running the organization, who the GM is, who

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Speaker 5: the coach is. And if you keep changing, like Daniel

525
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Speaker 5: Jones found out as the quarterback of the New York Giants,

526
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Speaker 5: you know you're going to take two steps forward, three

527
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Speaker 5: steps back, two steps forward, three steps back. So the

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Speaker 5: one good thing about the Harbaugh situation here for the Giants,

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Speaker 5: I think that this solidifies Jackson Dart's next ten years.

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Speaker 5: If everything works out right with Todd Munkin as his

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Speaker 5: offensive coordinator and John Harbaugh as his coach, that should

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Speaker 5: be a ten year run. That should be great for

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Speaker 5: him as a quarterback, and he should be really successful.

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Speaker 5: As for the Jets, I mean, who is that guy

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Speaker 5: and where's that guy coming from? If it is Malik Willis,

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Speaker 5: God bless him. If he comes here with this team

537
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Speaker 5: the way it's built right now, not the greatest place

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Speaker 5: to be successful.

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Speaker 2: Give me the surprise this weekend in the playoffs.

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Speaker 5: Wow, I did pick the Texans and the Rams to

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Speaker 5: go to the Super Bowl. So I got to stick

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Speaker 5: with those two guys. I guess I would be surprised

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Speaker 5: if somehow the Patriots, you know, beat the Texans, because

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Speaker 5: I just think the Texans defense are like the eighty

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Speaker 5: five Bears, they're that good. I mean they are all

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Speaker 5: over opposing quarterbacks and every quarterback has struggled. So even

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Speaker 5: though the Patriots are favored, if they won, for me,

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Speaker 5: that would be a surprise. I guess if San Francisco wins,

549
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Speaker 5: that would also be a surprise given what Seattle did

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Speaker 5: to them the last time they played, and now with

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Speaker 5: the loss of George Kittle, and no matter how many

552
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Speaker 5: more guys are they going to take away from Brock

553
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Speaker 5: Perdy and Josh Allen this weekend, Dan, I mean, those

554
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Speaker 5: guys are playing fantastic football, but they're losing guys left

555
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Speaker 5: and right around them. So I would think that both

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Speaker 5: are going to struggle a little bit this weekends. Those defenses.

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Speaker 2: What's it like to go to the line of scrimmage

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Speaker 2: and you look at that defense.

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Speaker 5: Which one, well.

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Speaker 2: If I threw out the eighty five Bears or the

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Speaker 2: eighty six Giant, Like when you go to the line

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Speaker 2: of scrimmage and you just know that, yeah, this is

563
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Speaker 2: going to be a long this is going to hurt.

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Speaker 5: Yeah it is, and you know what, and you got

565
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Speaker 5: to get yourself in the mindset to be able to

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Speaker 5: absorb that and playing all those years back in the

567
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Speaker 5: old AFC Central. We had the Uston Detect oilers to

568
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Speaker 5: deal with, we had Cleveland to deal with, we had

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Speaker 5: Pittsburgh to deal with. Jacksonville ultimately came into the mix

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Speaker 5: as well. But I mean every weekend it felt like

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Speaker 5: we were playing against a great pass rusher. And then

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Speaker 5: when we did get to the playoffs, we saw Bruce Smith.

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Speaker 5: I mean, that was no fun. And then years of

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Speaker 5: playing him when I was with the Jets, you knew

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Speaker 5: that somehow, some way he was going to get to

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Speaker 5: you somewhere along the line. The game's a little bit

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Speaker 5: different now, but these guys still take major hits, as

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Speaker 5: Justin Herbert showed us last week, and as Matthew Stafford

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Speaker 5: and Josh Allen both showed us last week. But stepping

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Speaker 5: up there, man, you got to have your chin strap button.

581
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Speaker 5: You got to be totally focused, and you got to

582
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Speaker 5: find out if you can on film and on tape,

583
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Speaker 5: any tendencies that they're giving you, any tips that they're

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Speaker 5: giving you, and hopefully you're reading it right that day.

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Speaker 2: What were Boomer's numbers against the Bears?

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Speaker 6: Pulley oh Man, Dan, September twenty eight, nineteen eighty six, Boomer,

587
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Speaker 6: I have the Bears forty four even over the Bengals.

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Speaker 5: That sound correct, that's right, that's right. And here's the

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Speaker 5: funny thing about that game. It was early in the season,

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Speaker 5: and thanks for bringing that up then. So the funny

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Speaker 5: thing about that game was the Bears were coming to

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Speaker 5: Cincinnati and it was a really hot September day. It

593
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 5: was hot, steamy and muggy. And I remember saying to

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Speaker 5: my center Dave Remington, Man, we got the Bears here.

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Speaker 5: They're not gonna like this weather. They're gonna they're not

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Speaker 5: gonna deal with it. And after the first quarter was over,

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Speaker 5: Dave said, you sure they don't like get here? I

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Speaker 5: think they like it pretty much. I think I remember

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Speaker 5: throwing a ball off of one of the back of

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Speaker 5: my offensive linemen. They got picked off by Wilbur Marshall.

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Speaker 2: So what are what are the numbers? By the way,

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Speaker 2: Boomer did win an MVP NFLMVP.

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Speaker 5: That's all right, listen, I've been around long enough. I'll

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Speaker 5: take a joke.

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Speaker 6: Okay, the Boomer stats in that game fourteen for thirty

606
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Speaker 6: to twelve, one TD, four picks and three secs. However, Boomer,

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Speaker 6: you did lead the team in rushing to carries fourteen yards.

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Speaker 3: I like that.

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Speaker 5: I was running for my life. Yes, that was it.

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Speaker 5: That was you got to remember. So they had the

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Speaker 5: forty six defense with Buddy Ryan, and it was something

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Speaker 5: that nobody had ever seen before. So it took us

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Speaker 5: a while to figure it out what was going on

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Speaker 5: and how they were running it. And once we figured

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Speaker 5: it out, our offensive line coach, the great Jim McNally,

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Speaker 5: who just got elected into the Pro Football Hall of

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Speaker 5: Fame for assistant coaches, he came up with so many

618
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Speaker 5: different plays to beat that defense, which ultimately propelled us

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Speaker 5: to the Super Bowl a few years later.

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Speaker 2: Great to talk to you, tell Geo, We said, hello,

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Speaker 2: thanks for joining us. All right, Dan, anytime see a

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Speaker 2: Bud Boomers sisin. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports

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Speaker 2: the Third He ran around naked when Baylor was winning

627
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Speaker 2: football games right or Washington and when it was winning

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Speaker 2: football games or something like that. Great to have you

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Speaker 2: back the Fox Football analyst. I was just talking to

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Speaker 2: Boomer of Sciason about going to the line of scrimmage

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Speaker 2: and you look over and you go, there's the eighty

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Speaker 2: five Bears. Yep, eighty six Giants. Was there a time

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Speaker 2: a moment where you went up to the line of

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Speaker 2: scrimmage and you looked over and you go, oh my god.

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Speaker 3: There wasn't Dan.

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Speaker 7: But that's that's just the quarterback in me, Wow, being

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Speaker 7: the fearless guy that you have to be to play

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Speaker 7: that position.

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Speaker 3: But I will say when I first got in.

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Speaker 7: The league, those moments came more on the fact that

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Speaker 7: I was watching these guys growing up.

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Speaker 3: So the Bears is a great example.

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Speaker 7: You know, I look across the line of scrimmage and

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Speaker 7: I've got Brian her Lacker and Lance Briggs, and those

645
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Speaker 7: are guys that I grew up watching and you know,

646
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Speaker 7: admiring so to play against them, to play against DeMarcus Where,

647
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Speaker 7: to play with Santana Moss and Chris Cooley at the

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Speaker 7: time in London, Fletcher, those moments really hit me. You know,

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Speaker 7: I got Ed Reid, ed Reid tried to Ed Reid

650
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 7: me and I got him to move off the middle

651
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Speaker 7: of the field and threw a touchdown against him like

652
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 7: those types of moments were pretty cool. I had one

653
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 7: against Tampa Bay with Ronde Barber and uh, you know,

654
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 7: he was a slot corner, had a really good reputation

655
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 7: of being able to ride the inside slant and fall

656
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 7: off to the outside slant pick it.

657
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 3: Off, and he almost got me.

658
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 7: And Kyle Shanahan was my offensive coordinator in Washington during

659
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 7: that time, and he told me during, you know, before

660
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 7: the game, like, hey, don't don't try to pick on Ronde,

661
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 7: like he's really good at it. And we got him

662
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 7: on a on a third and eleven on a slant

663
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 7: route and I threw it completed. It looked at coach

664
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 7: and he was like, hey, you got to be careful.

665
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 3: Those kind of moments for me that were.

666
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 7: That were more so like why, I'm just blessed to have

667
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 7: a chance to play against these guys.

668
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 2: All right, Uh, how'd the Giants do? Oh?

669
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Speaker 7: I'm in the A plus plus plus higher with John Harball.

670
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Speaker 7: You know, I don't know if I've talked to you

671
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 7: about it before, but John's the best coach I ever

672
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 7: played for in the NFL. When you talk about identity

673
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 7: creating identity for your team, I don't think the Giants

674
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 7: could have got a better guy, especially with the young

675
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 7: talent that they have.

676
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 3: If you just look at their roster, they.

677
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 7: Have the quarterback in Jackson Dart, they got the running

678
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 7: back in Camp'scattaboy, they got the receiver and Eleague neighbors.

679
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 7: They got the young pass rushers, you know, Abdual Carter,

680
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 7: especially from last year's draft, and they just need direction

681
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 7: and that's what John Harball provides. So I think I

682
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 7: don't know what the other hires are going to be

683
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 7: during the cycle, but this is the best hire and

684
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 7: the Giants knocked.

685
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 3: It out the park.

686
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 2: Is Pittsburgh a good John?

687
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 7: Oh? Prestige wise, one hundred percent. It's a great job,

688
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 7: you know when you have a team that's only going

689
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 7: to have their fourth head coach.

690
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 2: But let me take away that it's let me just

691
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 2: give you the roster. Let's just look at rosters. Is

692
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh a good situation?

693
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 4: Oh?

694
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 3: That is so tough the answer.

695
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 7: Outside of the organizational prestige and the fact that you're

696
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 7: gonna get an owner that's gonna be dedicated to you,

697
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 7: it's not a great roster because it's aging and you

698
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 7: don't have a quarterback. So I know that's what you're

699
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 7: getting at Dan. It's like, I think Rogers is done.

700
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 7: If Tomlin stayed, I could see Rogers coming back for

701
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 7: another year, But I don't think Aaron Rodgers wants to

702
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 7: deal with the first time head coach coming back in there.

703
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:31,959
Speaker 3: And now, if you're.

704
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Speaker 7: A coach, it's attractive if you if you're saying, Okay,

705
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:38,359
Speaker 7: I'm gonna have t J. Watt, Like, is camp Cam

706
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 7: Hayward coming back?

707
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 3: I don't know.

708
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 7: He's been fighting with the organization the past couple off

709
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 7: seasons for money, and rightfully so. He's he's one of

710
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 7: the best players in the league, although he's aging. So

711
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 7: if you come in and you think that one of

712
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 7: these young quarterbacks in the draft is a guy that's

713
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 7: gonna that you can build around, then I think it's

714
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 7: an attractive job. If not, it's really hard to go

715
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 7: to a place that has a bunch of old plays

716
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 7: and no quarterback.

717
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 2: Would you rather coach Atlanta or Pittsburgh.

718
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 7: I'd rather coach Atlanta, And it's not because of you

719
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 7: know again, I think you have to put a lot

720
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 7: of value in the organization. I think what they do

721
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,919
Speaker 7: there and how they run their ship is a great

722
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 7: thing for Pittsburgh. But if I'm looking at it for

723
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 7: division and talent, I'm going to Atlanta. You know, I

724
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 7: got b Jon Robinson arguably the best runner back in

725
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 7: the league this past year. You know, I've got London

726
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 7: at receiver. I've got you know, potentially Kyle Pitts at

727
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 7: tight end, like I've got a young QB and Michael

728
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 7: Pennox junior. If you still believe in him, like I

729
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,240
Speaker 7: can go in there and make that work and and

730
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 7: and when pretty immediately because that division is so I mean,

731
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 7: it's tough to say, but it's.

732
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:48,760
Speaker 3: A weak division.

733
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, when your division winner has a losing record every

734
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 7: single year, like coaches should be falling over themselves to

735
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 7: go to Atlanta. Right now, what do you think Mike

736
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:03,720
Speaker 7: Tomlin does next? I think be on TV. He he resigned,

737
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 7: step down, so you know, it's not like he retired.

738
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 7: So Pittsburgh still owns his right. So if he goes

739
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 7: and coaches somewhere else that they're gonna have to trade him.

740
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 7: And if you're looking at a place like Atlanta, which

741
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 7: he clearly fits in to the fabric of what Atlanta is,

742
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 7: you know, the Black Mecca, and it's like, yeah, but

743
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 7: then you're gonna probably have to trade one of those

744
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 7: young assets or trade some picks to get him to

745
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 7: go there.

746
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 3: So I think he goes to TV. I think he's

747
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 3: earned it.

748
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 7: I think every time I've heard him talk, he teaches

749
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 7: you something, and I think that's what TV networks they

750
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 7: cove it, personality, the ability to storytell. I think he's

751
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 7: a total package when it comes to that. So I

752
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 7: definitely see him being in a studio show, you know,

753
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 7: for one of the major networks.

754
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 2: So I can org three Funks Football Analyst and his

755
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 2: podcast out of Pocket with RG three give me the

756
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 2: surprise this weekend.

757
00:36:55,040 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 7: Ooh, the surprise this weekend. Boilh boy, that's a good one.

758
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 7: I think the Bears beat the Rams. I think people

759
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 7: will be surprised by that. You know, Matthew Stafford, number

760
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 7: one quarterback in the NFL, throwing the deep ball this year,

761
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 7: and I think it's gonna it's gonna stress that Bear secondary.

762
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 3: But I think the Chicago.

763
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 7: Bears played the three worst quarters of football I've ever

764
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 7: seen in my life in wild card round, and they

765
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 7: found a way to have one of the greatest comebacks

766
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 7: in playoff history. I think Caleb Williams in that locker room.

767
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 7: Did you did you see you heard the speech after

768
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 7: the game by Caleb Tom Johnson that was so impactful

769
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 7: if you just know the whole story of what he

770
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,720
Speaker 7: went through last year and how he wasn't being taught

771
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 7: and how he felt, you know, middle of the year,

772
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 7: like he shouldn't have been there to come back and

773
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 7: now have a coach that believes in you instills that

774
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 7: that confidence in you. I think the Bears are one

775
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,879
Speaker 7: of the hottest teams in the league, and if they

776
00:37:56,080 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 7: could even play forty five minutes of great football, I

777
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 7: think no one in the league wants to play them

778
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 7: right now.

779
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I wondered about Caleb last year. Was he

780
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 2: being taught? I wondered about him at USC with Lincoln Riley,

781
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 2: did he want to be taught?

782
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 3: Okay?

783
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 2: And what was he taught? But with Ben Johnson there

784
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 2: was You're gonna be taught, There's no doubt about So

785
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 2: there is a real difference in that, and you got

786
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:28,439
Speaker 2: to embrace each other. Yeah, and having that head coach.

787
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 2: Normally you're OC, but you know Ben's your OC, your quarterback,

788
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 2: whisper all those things, just like Kyle Shanahan. I mean

789
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 2: the value of having somebody like that who puts you

790
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 2: in those positions. I mean, you know that feeling when

791
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 2: you go to line of scrimmage and you're like, damn,

792
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 2: this is going to work. There's gonna be a touchdown,

793
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 2: Like I got the answer to the test, and that

794
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 2: feels like Caleb and I made the analogy. Ben probably

795
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 2: wants Caleb to be more like Jared Goff for the

796
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 2: first three quarters. In the fourth quarter you go be

797
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams correct and you're right, You're one hundred percent

798
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 2: right there. Dead personalities they have to match.

799
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 7: And when you look at Lincoln Riley and what he

800
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 7: was able to do with Caleb, like Caleb followed him

801
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 7: to us. It wasn't like he had to really try

802
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 7: to cruit him to go there, Like Caleb knew, like

803
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 7: I've had success with this guy.

804
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,240
Speaker 3: You know, I know him, i know this system.

805
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 7: I'm going to be successful at USC And he was

806
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 7: maybe not as successful as they wanted to be national

807
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 7: championship wise, but he was successful. Then you come in

808
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 7: to a situation where you don't have.

809
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 3: An offensive head coach. That coach is on the hot seat.

810
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 7: He's trying to do everything he possibly can do to

811
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 7: save his job, but you're not taking priority there. And

812
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 7: so Ben Johnson comes in, and I think they're on

813
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 7: completely opposite sides of the spectrum. I think, you know,

814
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 7: Caleb is the he's painting his fingernails, he's wearing the

815
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,879
Speaker 7: craziest clothes. He's got a different personality. You hear him

816
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 7: when he talks like he's a deep thinker. And Ben

817
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 7: Johnson is like a maniac, you know, like he wants

818
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 7: He's like Kurt Signetti. He wants to score sixty five

819
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:09,280
Speaker 7: points on you and he doesn't care. Like that postgame

820
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 7: handshake with Matt Lafour was. It was hilarious because basketballship,

821
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 7: like I get, but this is the guy that said, hey,

822
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 7: I like beating that guy two times a year, you know.

823
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 7: So I love that part of it. And I think

824
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 7: they balance each other out. And I don't think Caleb

825
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 7: Williams will ever be Jared Goff, and I think that's okay.

826
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 7: When he was on the sideline during the game last

827
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 7: week and he was you know, some people were saying

828
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 7: he was throwing little, you know, little fits on the

829
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 7: sideline and getting upset. I just looked at it. As like, Hey,

830
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 7: when we do good, it's not good enough. When we

831
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 7: don't do good, it's not good enough. And he held

832
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 7: them to that standard, and that's why I think they

833
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 7: got out of the rut that they were in. So

834
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 7: I'm seeing massive increases in the leadership ability from Caleb Williams,

835
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 7: and it's because Ben Johnson has created an environment where

836
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 7: he can lead. I thought that was the most impressive thing,

837
00:40:58,280 --> 00:40:59,720
Speaker 7: and I think they're flourishing together.

838
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 2: Finished this sentence. If the Bills lose in Denver.

839
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 4: Oh.

840
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 3: Sean McDermott is gone. I thought for sure if they lost.

841
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 7: To the Jags, they would make an organizational shift. But

842
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 7: I think the narrative outside the building is really strong

843
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 7: right now that Lamar Jackson isn't there, Patrick Mahomes isn't there,

844
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 7: Joe Burrow isn't in the playoffs. And you know, I've

845
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,280
Speaker 7: been the very adamant and vocal about all the clowns

846
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,240
Speaker 7: out there that keep saying that this is a legacy

847
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 7: defining playoffs for Josh Allen.

848
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 3: I don't think it is. He's one of the greatest

849
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:37,959
Speaker 3: playoff quarterbacks we've ever seen.

850
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 7: You know, you can list the stats, these total touchdowns

851
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 7: He's think he's first or second in the in league

852
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 7: history total yards. He's number one touchdown interception ratio. I

853
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 7: think he's one or two, So like he is a

854
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 7: high performer, and wins aren't a quarterback stat. But if

855
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 7: they lose with the same staff, essentially in the same

856
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 7: head coach, without those guys being there, the noise from

857
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 7: Bill's mafia alone would be enough for them to make

858
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 7: a change. So I think if they lose that game,

859
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 7: McDermott goes with it.

860
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 2: How did the Niners beat Seattle? Got to get pressure

861
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 2: on Sam. They don't sack anybody.

862
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 3: They don't.

863
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 7: They don't got Bosa, Fred Warner. I've seen his miraculous

864
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 7: come back. I don't know what he's taking, but we

865
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 7: all need to eat.

866
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 2: Some of that.

867
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 7: But they don't sack anyone. They don't have the pressure.

868
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 7: But when you look at Sam Donald, like as a coach,

869
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 7: if I'm the defensive coordinator, I don't go with the

870
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 7: game saying damn man, we can't we can't.

871
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 3: Sack the quarterback.

872
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 7: I just have to look at the numbers and say,

873
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 7: when Sam Donald is pressured, he's a fifty to fifty quarterback.

874
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 7: I think he's his touchdown interception ratio is six to six,

875
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,760
Speaker 7: and when he's not pressured, he is unbelievable.

876
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 3: He might be the league MVP when he's not pressured.

877
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 7: So if you're Sam Fran, you have to decide do

878
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 7: you want to die fast or do you want to

879
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 7: die slow. If you want to die slow, play play

880
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 7: zone coverage, don't don't bring any pressure, don't try to

881
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 7: blitz him, and just see if he has a you

882
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 7: know what many believe is like a Sam Sam Donald

883
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 7: moment where he he just doesn't perform in the playoffs,

884
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,760
Speaker 7: or you can say, you know what, I trust our guys.

885
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,280
Speaker 7: We're gonna bring pressure and we're gonna try We're gonna

886
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 7: try to make him uncomfortable, not just by rushing for

887
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 7: and I think that's what they have to do. And

888
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 7: the same thing on the other side for Seattle at

889
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 7: brock Purty. Brock Purty was one for seven against the

890
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 7: against the blitz against the Eagles. Like I anticipate a

891
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 7: lot of blitzing in this game. I don't think they're

892
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 7: gonna sit back and say.

893
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:40,240
Speaker 3: Well, let's just see if we got it today.

894
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 7: You know, I think they're gonna try to go make

895
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 7: it happen, and that's how they beat them.

896
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 2: The Texans, to me, are really fascinating because people just

897
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 2: don't talk about the Texans. They don't and that defense

898
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:57,240
Speaker 2: has been staring at everybody the last half of the season.

899
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 2: I don't know about Nico Collin and c J. Stroud

900
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 2: can't have that kind of game on the road, but

901
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 2: and I wouldn't be surprised at all if they win

902
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 2: that game, and they win it with defense, But you know,

903
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 2: you you got to get a couple of offensive touchdowns

904
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 2: there and take a little bit of pressure off that defense.

905
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 3: Correct.

906
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 7: You know, before we get into that, did you guys

907
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:24,720
Speaker 7: see the post game press conference when when Will Anderson

908
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 7: was sitting next to Alsherzir the linebacker, the contrast and

909
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:34,879
Speaker 7: how big of a human being. I mean, that's that's

910
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 7: a big linebacker and Will Anderson was like doublest size.

911
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 3: It looked like he ate him for breakfast.

912
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 7: So, like, you look at the offensive lineman and you're

913
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 7: going against these guys and Will Anderson is even.

914
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:47,359
Speaker 3: The biggest one. Daniel Hunter is bigger than he is.

915
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 7: I think that's an intimidation factor. But for the Texans

916
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 7: to win, they have to do it essentially what they

917
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 7: did to the Steelers. They have to they have to

918
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 7: run the football. You know what he marks and and

919
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 7: Shaub have had you know, over one hundred yards you know, combined.

920
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 7: I think it was one to sixty something like that.

921
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 7: But they have to be able to run the football

922
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 7: to take pressure off of CJ. Stroud because CJ has

923
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 7: struggled this year. Yeah, and it could be new offense.

924
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,760
Speaker 7: You know, Nico being in and out of the lineup.

925
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 7: You know, I don't know what it is, but it's

926
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 7: something is off with him. So yes, CJ will have

927
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 7: ten great passes and then you'll have seven throws. You're like,

928
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 7: where did that come from? So when you have that

929
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,760
Speaker 7: situation with your quarterback, you have to play great defense

930
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 7: and run the football.

931
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 3: The Patriots on the.

932
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 7: Other side, Drake May I noticed during the game, like

933
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 7: you got sacked five times in that first round. It's

934
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 7: like at some point Drake May has to make the

935
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 7: decision to get jiggy with it in the open field.

936
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 3: He's got to use his legs.

937
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 7: The Texans are top ten in every dang near defensive category,

938
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 7: the number one defense in the league, I believe, but

939
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 7: they're the worst defense in the league against quarterbacks scrambles.

940
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 7: So if you're Drake May, you have to say to yourself, Hey,

941
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 7: after one or two of these sacks, man, I got

942
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 7: to give my line some confidence and I got to

943
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 7: break out in the open field and go make a

944
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,320
Speaker 7: play happen. You know, I could see in my offensive

945
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 7: lineman's eyes when they couldn't block someone.

946
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,399
Speaker 3: I walk in the Hudle'm like, hey, we got three

947
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:13,879
Speaker 3: jet and they're like three hit.

948
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: Come oh, man, I'm fighting for my life out here.

949
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 3: And one run would give them the confidence.

950
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 5: Dan.

951
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 7: One run would give them the confidence to say, all right,

952
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 7: even if I miss this guy, I'm still gonna fire

953
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 7: my hands quick because my guy back here is going

954
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 7: to have my back.

955
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 2: You know.

956
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 3: Seventy percent of the time.

957
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 7: Maybe I'll give up a sack or two, but I'm

958
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 7: not going to get beat the entire game. And I

959
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,879
Speaker 7: think Drake has to take that mindset into this one.

960
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 7: The quarterback scramble is going to be a big part

961
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 7: of it.

962
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 2: I can't wait until after the game with the Patriots

963
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 2: win and he has some of these runs and he said,

964
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 2: you know, I'm just quoting RG three. I was just

965
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 2: getting jiggy with it.

966
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 7: Oh, that'd be better than some of the coaches he's

967
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 7: had with Cam tearing them down, right, I know, why

968
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 7: is Cam tearing down a kid who idolized Cam Newton

969
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 7: growing up. It's baffles me. And listen, I know Cam's

970
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 7: your guy, he's my guy. We like Cam like but

971
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 7: at the end of the day, they always say, don't

972
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,800
Speaker 7: meet your heroes sometimes, and this is one of those moments.

973
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 3: Like Drake may loves Cam Newton like top two in

974
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 3: MVP voting.

975
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 7: I always find it weird when people hate on people

976
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 7: or try to devalue them when they're having the like

977
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 7: the greatest seasons.

978
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 3: They've ever had.

979
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 7: Yes, like we're supposed to celebrate sports, but Cam was

980
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 7: upset the Colts didn't reach out to him, and they

981
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 7: reached out to Philip Rivers. I know that's that's a

982
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 7: relationship thing. Dan Philip was there and and he knows

983
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 7: those guys. He knows that system. I think sometimes in

984
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 7: this media game, when it's when it's everyone's trying to

985
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,959
Speaker 7: compete for attention, like some people are trying to find

986
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 7: ways to be slided, and I, you know.

987
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 3: I just I don't think that. I don't know. I'm

988
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 3: not mad that the Colts didn't reach out to me.

989
00:47:56,440 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 2: You know, you're not in the College Football Hall of

990
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 2: Fame yet?

991
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 4: Me?

992
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, did that vote?

993
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 2: Uh?

994
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 3: Have you been breaking news here? I didn't know that.

995
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 2: No, No, did you You're not in the College Football

996
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame?

997
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:14,720
Speaker 3: Right, I'm not? Okay?

998
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 5: Are you.

999
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,919
Speaker 2: Upset that you're not in the College Football Hall of Fame?

1000
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 7: That's a great question, Dan, I don't. I wouldn't say upset.

1001
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 7: I would say that it would be an honor to

1002
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 7: be in the College Football I would say that, you know,

1003
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 7: as a Heisman Trophy winner and everything that I was

1004
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 7: able to accomplish at Baylor with my teammates, that's a

1005
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:39,879
Speaker 7: that's an honor that I look forward to sharing with them.

1006
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 7: I wouldn't say I'm upset that I'm not in. I

1007
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 7: would just say I look at it as just being

1008
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 7: grateful and not not worrying about that.

1009
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 3: That stuff's going to happen when it happens.

1010
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 2: Cam is not in either, really, Yeah.

1011
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 3: That's yeah. Now I can go harder on that for you,

1012
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 3: now you want me to.

1013
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 2: That's legit that he would be upset, you know, if

1014
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 2: he was going to be upset not being in the

1015
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame College Football Hall of Fame.

1016
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 3: He can.

1017
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 2: He can be upset.

1018
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 7: He should be more upset that he's not in the

1019
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 7: College Football Hall of Fame as a guy that won

1020
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 7: the Heisman National Championship, put a team on his back,

1021
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 7: and had one of the probably the single greatest year,

1022
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 7: maybe him and Joe Burrow, single greatest year I've ever

1023
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 7: seen in college football. He could be upset about that

1024
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:23,879
Speaker 7: more so than he should be upset at Drake May

1025
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 7: for being an.

1026
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:30,280
Speaker 2: In better college quarterback. You were Cam Newton better college quarterback?

1027
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 3: Yeah? Uh, I mean that's just that's a hard question.

1028
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 3: Year college football.

1029
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 7: You you had two I played, I had two great Americans.

1030
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 7: But here's the question, would I take Cam Newton over

1031
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:48,240
Speaker 7: myself in college football?

1032
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1033
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 2: Uh great, great to talk to you, have fun this weekend.

1034
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 2: Good luck with the podcast. Appreciate your brother, God blessed.

1035
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Speaker 2: That's r G three.