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Speaker 1: Oh, a good time. I'll watch Steve Casper such times

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Speaker 1: for time. Welcome to a Wednesday edition of One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 1: I had to think twice before did time has lost

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Speaker 1: all meaning during the pandemic? But I think it is

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Speaker 1: today's Wednesday. In fact, I know it is because it's

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Speaker 1: seven sixth day. It's not actual Thursday. Thursday. Stay. I

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Speaker 1: forgot trash Day. I forgot trash Day. It's trash Day.

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Speaker 1: I am horrible verse. My Twitter account last night goes out.

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Speaker 1: One of the facts I can't get on. It has

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Speaker 1: no idea who I am. It thinks I'm a phantom.

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Speaker 1: I can't get my Internet. Yesterday was all massed stuff.

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Speaker 1: There is a there is a storm of biblical proportions

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Speaker 1: bearing down on western New York. My power goes out.

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Speaker 1: If my mailman sneezes, I'm in deep trouble today, deep trouble.

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Speaker 1: I have no chance of getting to three o'clock today.

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Speaker 1: Brownie None, Chris, Brownie, You're my rock, Brownie. Jay Harris

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Speaker 1: used to Jay Harris used to be the rock of

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Speaker 1: my of my existence here on One Bill's Live. Now

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Speaker 1: it's you, Brownie. Jay has abandoned me. He gave me

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Speaker 1: some cockamamy advice on how to get back into my

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Speaker 1: Twitter account. He told me, you'd just be like five

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Speaker 1: seconds before we go on the air in case my

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Speaker 1: power goes out five seconds, he goes, just download Skype

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Speaker 1: on your phone. No chance, no chance that works, not

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Speaker 1: with a five minute window, not for not for you

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Speaker 1: all I've got. I am well, I'm in a bad way.

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Speaker 1: I just gotta say it right off, right off the top.

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Speaker 1: We'll try to pull We'll try to pull you out

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Speaker 1: of it. Hey, Steve, you know the fact that it's Thursday.

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Speaker 1: That's one less, one less show. You probably serious. It's Thursday.

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Speaker 1: It is. My wife and I had a large it

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Speaker 1: is Thursday. Look at my phone. My wife and I

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Speaker 1: had a huge conversation yesterday. We both convin it was Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: It was Tuesday yesterday, and we just went on with it. Right,

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Speaker 1: it's so bad, it's been I am a I am

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Speaker 1: a shell of my former self, a shell of my

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Speaker 1: former self. We've got to get you out of the house.

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Speaker 1: I think I think there's got to be some way

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Speaker 1: we've We've got to gets back to one Bill's drive

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Speaker 1: is some way shape or form. I am Wait, so

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Speaker 1: the stadium is not New air Field anymore. They they're

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Speaker 1: not going to do that. We're asking it out, what

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Speaker 1: do you want? What do you want the stadium to

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Speaker 1: be named? Now, whenever we do that, in particularly on

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Speaker 1: a day like today, I'm in not in the mood

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Speaker 1: for the snark. So we might get three answers that

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Speaker 1: But what do you want the stadium to be called?

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Speaker 1: It was Rich Stadium for like twenty five years, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean forever. Those are the you know, and then

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Speaker 1: then it was Ralph Wilson Stadium, which I got used to.

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Speaker 1: Then it was New air Field. This is it, man,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be new stadium name. And I don't know.

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Speaker 1: We're asking our listeners what you wanted to be called.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to get into the politics of why

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to get used to calling it again,

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Speaker 1: That's all I'm That's all I care about. So we

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Speaker 1: can call eight h three oh five fifty. Don't get

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Speaker 1: please don't call me with sarcasm. Yeah, Well, we're looking

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Speaker 1: for the preferred outcome for the stadium and the naming

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Speaker 1: rights and give us just about anything under the sun

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Speaker 1: within reason. As Steve said, yeah, but I've been There

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Speaker 1: was a lot of there was a lot of action

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Speaker 1: on Twitter last night with suggestions. There was even a

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Speaker 1: is that? Well, because my Twitter feed is shot, I

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Speaker 1: There's a company that makes bidats. Oh, there you go

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Speaker 1: called the company name is Tushy. Um, there you go,

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Speaker 1: and they made an offer. Now, all I'm gonna say,

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Speaker 1: say this, and I hate to be this guy, but

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Speaker 1: money talks, bro. Twelve million bucks a lot of money

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Speaker 1: already reports Steve you know last night that the Bills

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Speaker 1: across the board for NFL clubs, this is an opportunity

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Speaker 1: So it only makes sense to think that, you know,

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Speaker 1: new partner there. The only thing is, Steve, this isn't

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Speaker 1: So yeah, sure, you've You've got a countless number of

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Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a challenging task. I'm not saying that,

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Speaker 1: to end. You're gonna basically react to this whole thing

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Speaker 1: like like the pet dog. Because I'm gonna tell you

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Speaker 1: I mean I can't even um the UM. It won't

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Speaker 1: user name, email. Uh, what's the other thing? Um password,

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Speaker 1: user name, email, and and cell phone. It won't take

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Speaker 1: sounds heartless, but that is the reality the NFL. It's

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Speaker 1: the one position that the longevity and the miles add

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Speaker 1: up very quickly, and the players from the from the

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Speaker 1: time he's in his prime of his career to the

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Speaker 1: time he declines until he's out of the league is

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Speaker 1: a very short window, right. And the important thing with that,

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Speaker 1: Steve is okay, Derrick Henry had a career year last year,

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Speaker 1: and he may perform very well and produce for them

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Speaker 1: again this year, But two years down the line, if

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Speaker 1: the production drops off, the money's not gonna fit. And

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Speaker 1: you say, oh well, they'll just cut him. But where

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Speaker 1: does that leave you? You know? And the Falcons experienced

439
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Speaker 1: that they gave giant money to DeVante Freeman and his

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Speaker 1: production fell off a cliff and they clipped him. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And the problem the problem with that is this bran.

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Speaker 1: I know, it's I'm making a generalization. Not every guy's

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Speaker 1: the same. If you're gonna get hit with sticks, if

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Speaker 1: you're gonna get beaten up physically, and you earn this

445
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Speaker 1: big chunk of money and you get it, you get

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Speaker 1: the money right now, then you have to go back

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Speaker 1: out and get beaten up again when you've already got

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Speaker 1: the money. You know, you just kind of say, you

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Speaker 1: know what not today, you know, and running backs just

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Speaker 1: lose their desire to hurt, you know, they use their

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Speaker 1: desire to inflict that kind of punishment on themselves. And

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Speaker 1: there and just over half of Henry's contract is guaranteed

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Speaker 1: twenty five and a half of the fifty is guaranteed

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Speaker 1: after he signed it. I just think the Titans were

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Speaker 1: in a tough spot because they get all the way

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Speaker 1: to the AFC Championship games. So the prevailing thought, not

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Speaker 1: only by them, but surely by their fan bases. Hey

458
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 1: we're really close. We got to keep this thing together.

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Speaker 1: And so now you say, okay, well we couldn't get Brady,

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Speaker 1: let's sign Tannehill long term to a big contract. All right, Well,

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Speaker 1: we got the league's leading rusher. You know, our identity

462
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Speaker 1: is running the football, and you know, using Tannehill on

463
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Speaker 1: play action, we gotta get Henry back. And so now

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Speaker 1: you pay him a bunch of money, and you know,

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Speaker 1: if Tannehill and his play drifts back more to the

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Speaker 1: mean than where he was last year, I don't know

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Speaker 1: if that's money well spent. And then and you got

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Speaker 1: a running back who's going to be taking a pounding

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Speaker 1: again this year, you know, with almost three hundred carries,

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Speaker 1: and I just I think it's a short term answer

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Speaker 1: that's not going to put the Titans in a good

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Speaker 1: long term situation. Yeah they do. And I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: this not for nothing, I mean, but we are one

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Speaker 1: bills live. So I'm gonna say you know, I don't

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Speaker 1: see the Bills making this deal for anybody. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: don't either. It just doesn't fit their profile no matter

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Speaker 1: who it is. Now they're build of this roster, I

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Speaker 1: would say is considerably different to that or the way

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Speaker 1: the Titans have kind of constructed things and they're at

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Speaker 1: a different top point in the timeline where they have

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Speaker 1: two running backs on rookie contracts. Take a think about

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Speaker 1: this brownie. They would if they to get Derrick Henry

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Speaker 1: and they had a guy, we'll say, Devin Singletary in

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Speaker 1: two years, they got him and they want him back.

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Speaker 1: They're not going to sign him to a four year deal.

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Speaker 1: You know what they would do though, They'll sign him

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Speaker 1: to it like if if Derrick Henry is getting twelve

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Speaker 1: point five this year, they would give Devin Singletary like

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Speaker 1: a fifteen million dollar one year deal, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean? Yeah, or even would make it. They would

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Speaker 1: make it lucrative for him, but they'd say, Okay, but

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Speaker 1: you gotta keep your foot on the gas. Here's a

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Speaker 1: one year deal, fifteen million, what do you got? And

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Speaker 1: that's that's how they would do it here in buff

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Speaker 1: I think right now, I don't know if I don't

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Speaker 1: know if Devin Singletarry whatever. This is all hypothetical, but

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Speaker 1: that's the difference in philosophy for teams. Now, maybe you

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Speaker 1: can't find a player to take that deal, but if

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Speaker 1: you don't, the Bills have shown discipline enough to say,

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Speaker 1: you know what, good luck, go out there and see

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Speaker 1: what you can get and give us a chance to

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Speaker 1: match it maybe or whatever, but we wish you all

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Speaker 1: the best because we can't do that. And that's you know,

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Speaker 1: they leave in great terms with these players, and the

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Speaker 1: player goes out and finds it, and the Bills will

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Speaker 1: say that, you know, there you go. They did it

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Speaker 1: with a couple of guys and it and it works

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Speaker 1: for them. It works for them. The offensive lineman Quentin

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Speaker 1: Spain did that. He resigned with the Bills. He said,

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Speaker 1: you know what, my priorities to be back in Buffalo

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Speaker 1: and the Bills paid him. Now, he might have gotten

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Speaker 1: more money someplace else, but the Bills worked it so

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Speaker 1: that they paid him what they wanted to pay him,

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Speaker 1: and he's happy with taking it. It's it's an interesting dynamic,

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Speaker 1: but that is something that you kind of project that

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Speaker 1: onto a Bills philosophy, and I think that's what would happen.

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Speaker 1: The Bills might pay the guy more money up front,

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Speaker 1: but the contract term is going to keep him motivated. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would agree with that. Maybe it's a one year

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Speaker 1: deal with a team option for a second. Maybe it's

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Speaker 1: as who knows, maybe it's even a two year deal, right,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, probably of the shorter variety. I think the

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Speaker 1: only thing that would make a deal like that longer

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Speaker 1: because we got to remember seeing it singletary. No, he

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Speaker 1: came out as a senior, so he's I was wondering

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Speaker 1: if he was any one year old coming out, but

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Speaker 1: he wasn't. So yeah, I think shorter term on a

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Speaker 1: second deal is what their approach would be. The question

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Speaker 1: is if there's a four year deal out ad, the

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Speaker 1: players probably going elsewhere because they're going to be looking

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Speaker 1: for the long term security. All right, Steve Tasker, Chris

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Speaker 1: Brown here till three. We've got to Lorenzo Alexander coming

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Speaker 1: up at one one Bill's Live presented by Kalid to

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Speaker 1: Health on Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back at one of

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Speaker 1: those Live. Chief Tasker Chris Brown here till three. I'm

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Speaker 1: right before the break, I said that Lorenzo Alexander is

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Speaker 1: coming on A one. He's coming on at two o'clock,

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Speaker 1: and Kaplan is coming on at dan Kaplan is coming

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Speaker 1: on at one o'clocks. We're here asking you, our listeners,

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Speaker 1: the question, what's the best outcome for the Bills stadium

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Speaker 1: naming rights deal. New Era has backed away from it

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Speaker 1: and they are now actively searching for a new corporate partner.

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Speaker 1: What do you think? Give us a call ATATO three

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Speaker 1: five fifty. We've got some feedback already on the tweets.

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Speaker 1: We read one already, Brownie. The next one from Cannon

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Speaker 1: go ahead, Yeah. He says, Vietnam vets have been disrespected forever.

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Speaker 1: The player, this player, Bob Kalsu was killed there. I

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Speaker 1: think he means Bill's player of podcalls who was killed there.

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Speaker 1: What better way to honor him in all the Vietnam

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Speaker 1: men than this salute them all. This is not the

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Speaker 1: only response that I've seen of a military nature, Steve.

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Speaker 1: I got some tweets directly to my account as well,

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Speaker 1: saying rename it with a military branch, you know, like

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Speaker 1: air force field or something of that nature. So I

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Speaker 1: don't know how much traction that would get per se,

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Speaker 1: but it's an interesting idea. I think, I think the

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Speaker 1: general population to go for that in a heartbeat, no

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Speaker 1: question about it. Yeah, Bob Kalsu was killed in Vietnam.

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Speaker 1: He's the only NFL active NFL player that had that

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Speaker 1: happened to um, and he's a Buffalo Bill, So I

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Speaker 1: think you. I don't know, do the armed forces have

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Speaker 1: enough cash to do that? They probably do, don't they. Um? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I I don't know how that would all work, you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't federal They have to spending. They'd have to

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Speaker 1: sell a tank or two to make that world. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah they do something. Yeah, I don't

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Speaker 1: know that that's a good I like that. I mean

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Speaker 1: I don't have a problem doing it. Um naming it

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Speaker 1: after with a military after, you know, with the military

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Speaker 1: in mind, to salute to the military. I that'd be

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Speaker 1: okay with me. From it's a business. From Scott on

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Speaker 1: the tweet sheet as well, it's a business. Agree with

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Speaker 1: having principles, but they should sell the rights to the

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Speaker 1: highest reputable bidder, especially for twenty twenty where game day

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Speaker 1: stadium revenues might be zero. The Bills stay in Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: The Bills staying in Buffalo forever, is dependent on the

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Speaker 1: team consistently making dollars in this market. Scott's right. I

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Speaker 1: mean it's a bottom line business. And you know there's, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, a lot of the room for I said,

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Speaker 1: this is the top of the room for Snark and

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Speaker 1: this eat these companies out there that would you know,

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Speaker 1: throw money at it, and it would sound funny, you know, like, uh,

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Speaker 1: we've seen it, like the Bowl games these days have

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Speaker 1: all kinds of sponsorships. But let's face it, financial viability

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Speaker 1: is important to every team and you got to see

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Speaker 1: if you can find somebody willing to pony up. Who's

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Speaker 1: he gonna be though? Um, And you would think, although

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Speaker 1: it's not you know, completely necessary, you would think that

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Speaker 1: it would be a company based in Buffalo, but that's

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Speaker 1: not exactly true. It doesn't have to be. It could

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Speaker 1: be a national compass in particularly and you think about this, brownie.

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Speaker 1: They got four nationally televised games this year. They do,

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Speaker 1: And that's that's right, because there's gonna be primetime exposure.

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Speaker 1: And I think, what is it the nineteen of the

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Speaker 1: top twenty most watched broadcasts every year or like NFL games, right,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it's gonna be there's an exposure there. If

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Speaker 1: this team's good and they get deep into the season,

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Speaker 1: a couple of his home game, you know, the Thursday

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Speaker 1: night game against the Chiefs, everybody in the country will

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Speaker 1: watch that and that's free. That's advertising free because it's

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Speaker 1: being played in the stadium that's named after your company.

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Speaker 1: So there's there is that this year. Even in a

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Speaker 1: year if they're on TV, even in a year where

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Speaker 1: people aren't in the stadium, it still gives you quite

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Speaker 1: a bit of value for whatever you're going to spend

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Speaker 1: to do it, right, I mean, so that's not for nothing.

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Speaker 1: But the team, we always say it winning cures a

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Speaker 1: lot of problems. This is an exact example of that.

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Speaker 1: If your team's good and they're playing nationally televised games,

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Speaker 1: your naming rights are value a playoff game too, If

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Speaker 1: you get a whole guy off game, I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: another feather in your cap. So you'll pull a monster

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Speaker 1: number in advertising revenue. So yeah, it's Scott brings up

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Speaker 1: a good point from it. Um yeah, what from Well,

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Speaker 1: let's let's you want to go to the next one here,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, So Ryan tweets in the twelfth Man Cave

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Speaker 1: or the Bill's Mafia den and again the man case

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Speaker 1: a case. Yeah, although it might be might be deemed

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Speaker 1: a little sexist, but yeah, um, Bill's Mafia is kind

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Speaker 1: of more all encompassing. And that's not the first mention

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Speaker 1: of that that I've seen, right, Um, So be interesting

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Speaker 1: to see what kind of carries the day here in

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Speaker 1: terms of suggestions. How much can the mafia come up with?

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Speaker 1: You know, I think about, well, if we go down

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Speaker 1: a couple of tweet answers to Jack, you'll you'll find

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Speaker 1: out somebody's already working the math down there, right exactly.

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Speaker 1: M Yeah, from Sharon. The next one down between from

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Speaker 1: Jack k Gun stadium. Yeah, okay, there's all that fun stuff.

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Speaker 1: But this one from Jack, you're right, he says. Let's

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Speaker 1: here's from Jack on our Twitter question. What's the best

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Speaker 1: outcome for Bill's naming rights of the new State for

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Speaker 1: the stadium? He says this, Let's get all of Bill's

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Speaker 1: Mafia together for whoever wants to donate a hundred bucks

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Speaker 1: and pull it together, buy the naming rights for a

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Speaker 1: few years. Call it Bill's Mafia Stadium or Bill's Mafia

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Speaker 1: Park or Bill's Mafia Field. Two hundred thousand bills fans

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Speaker 1: put in one hundred dollars each, that's twenty million dollars.

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Speaker 1: That should buy the rights for at least two years.

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Speaker 1: It's good for you. It's a good idea. That'd be

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Speaker 1: if somebody could make pull that together and make that happen.

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00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 1: How cool would that be? Go fund me stadium, go

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00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: fund me, get it going. That's actually a really really

643
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 1: good idea. And what a feather in the cap for

644
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: your fans, your fandom, right, pulling it together. I just

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00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 1: kind of picture the I just kind of picture the

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Speaker 1: the formal handing over of the the check, you know,

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Speaker 1: the coverage President of Afia comes in with the giant

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00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: photo op check and you know you got fans in

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Speaker 1: the parking lot. Yeah, I'll tell you it's I didn't

650
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: think that would be awesome. Oh it's a campaign you

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00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: get behind, right, I mean we would, you know, we

652
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Speaker 1: we would lend our whatever whatever support we could do.

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00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: That's a great idea. I mean they've done it before.

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00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 1: You ask Andy Dalton, those and those guys. You know

655
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: how right heavy, how much the Mafia can bring to bear.

656
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what, who are they bidden against? Seriously? Well,

657
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: who are they betten against? That the Day Company was

658
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 1: one of them. I guess, but that's not serious. I

659
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,879
Speaker 1: think they're a real company. They are, they're worth ten

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Speaker 1: million bucks. They offered twelve and a half. Yeah, exactly,

661
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: it's not serious. Come on, maybe for a twenty year deal. Yeah,

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00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 1: there's no way, I mean, anyway, Be that as it may.

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00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 1: That's what you're bidden against. You know, you're bidden. It's

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Speaker 1: whoever's in the money, and and and then ultimately, you know,

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00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 1: it's up to Kim and Terry say, you know, that's fine,

666
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: but I don't you know, we're gonna gonna give it

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00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: to the mafia. Thanks for the money. Yeah, I uh.

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00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,720
Speaker 1: What do you think of Jack's math? Two hundred thousand

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Speaker 1: bills fans? I think that's I think that's attainable. Oh sure,

670
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: but a hundred bucks at each. I mean, you're talking

671
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Speaker 1: about a dad and bills fans. There's five in the family.

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Speaker 1: He's he's in for five hundred bucks for each of

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Speaker 1: his family who are fans, right, But if it's households,

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00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. If you get to two hundred k

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00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,879
Speaker 1: in this reason, in this region, you may well that's

676
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 1: all that transplants all over the country. I mean yeah, yeah,

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00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: I get that, but that's a big chunk in during

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00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: a pandemic when you might be failed laid on. That's

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Speaker 1: the only thing that came to mind for me. You know,

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Speaker 1: one hundred bucks doesn't sound like a whole lot of

681
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: money if everybody's working and pulling down a paycheck, you know,

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Speaker 1: every two weeks. But that is obviously not the case now.

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00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: But here's and you can get other guys. You get

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Speaker 1: other people, somebody, you know, some bills. Mafia guy's gonna

685
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Speaker 1: throw in a grand or two grand or five grand,

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00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: that kind of you get that kind of thing too. Yeah,

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00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: and you know that there is the option out there

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Speaker 1: for season ticket holders to kind of way twenty one.

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00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: Now you're kicking. Maybe you use maybe you use some

690
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,399
Speaker 1: of that savings towards towards a fan effort like this.

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00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: I don't know what those numbers are. Maybe there's thirty

692
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Speaker 1: thousand people who said I'm pushing it off till twenty twenty,

693
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Speaker 1: or maybe there's more than that. And if they all

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Speaker 1: threw an extra hundo in there for the bills for

695
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: the stadium naming rights, there's you know, you're off to

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Speaker 1: a good start. And like I said, you don't know

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Speaker 1: who you're bidding again, so you may not have to

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Speaker 1: go to twenty million dollars. You might go to like

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00:39:55,360 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 1: three you know, I don't know that. That's pretty interesting though.

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00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 1: You get to go fund me page going and you

701
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:08,399
Speaker 1: could do it. We need some advanced analytics on this, yeah,

702
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 1: I did to see how realistic it's public math. I'm

703
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 1: trying not to embarrass myself as it is. So we've

704
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Speaker 1: got another one from from Jerry twelfth man Field, which

705
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Speaker 1: was like, you know, ben't done it and someone how

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Speaker 1: about it on seven one six day call it seven

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00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: one six stadium, Greg puts that or just or just

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Speaker 1: call it the seven one six. What do you think

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00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: of the seven one six? Yeah, that's yeah. I could

710
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: get behind that too. That's a good one. And you

711
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,399
Speaker 1: know what you think about it. The mafia could name

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00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 1: it whatever they want, you know, Bill's Mafia Stadium, Bill's

713
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 1: Mafia Park. I like Bill's Mafia Park, or they could

714
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 1: name it seven one six two Bills Mafia. They could

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Speaker 1: choose whatever the name they want, you know, if they

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Speaker 1: get the naming rights. So yeah, there's all that's on

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00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: the on the on the field, and they can and

718
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 1: they could the mafia could put it out there as

719
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 1: a poll, like what do we want to call it? Guys?

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Speaker 1: We got these naming rights, what are we gonna do

721
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 1: with it? And and go from there. But yeah, a

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Speaker 1: seven one six, that's a good idea on seven one

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Speaker 1: sixth day, Brownie. It all comes together. It all comes together.

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Speaker 1: You can call us if you want. Eight h three

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Speaker 1: oh five fifty one eighty eight five fifty two five

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Speaker 1: fifty Coming up at the top of the hour, We've

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Speaker 1: got Daniel Kaplan. He's the sports business reporter for the

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Speaker 1: Athletic He's and he formerly worked at the Sports Business Journal.

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00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: He's coming up at the top of the hour. Steve

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Speaker 1: Tasker Chris Brown here on Buffalo Bill's Radio presented by

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Speaker 1: Kalida Health. This is one Bills Live, one Bills Live

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Speaker 1: here till three o'clock. Steve Chaster Chris Brown tell all

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Speaker 1: our listeners to gear up for episode one of Captain's Circle,

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Speaker 1: presented by the labat Blue Light. The first of three

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00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: episodes are going to feature Jack Eichel and Josh Allen's

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00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: going to be available to watch on the Sabers and

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00:41:54,920 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 1: Bills YouTube channels and Facebook pages. July nineteenth at seven pm.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you tune in so you can cheers to

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Speaker 1: the captains that's coming up. That should be pretty good.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna get three episodes, starts out with Jack and

741
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 1: Josh and they're gonna off from there. Did you see this, Brownie?

742
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 1: There's always something that players take very serious, little more

743
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 1: seriously than they should, rankings on how good they are

744
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: at their position compared to guys around the league. You know,

745
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 1: you need the Madden rankings and all of that. But

746
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 1: Jeremy Fowler, who, by the way, everybody is going to

747
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,720
Speaker 1: be a guest on our show tomorrow, he ranked every position,

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00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: the top eleven guys at every position around the NFL,

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Speaker 1: and our own Tredevious White is number three on his list.

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Speaker 1: Let you think, well, number three, Well, it's Stefan Gilmore

751
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year last year, Jalen Ramsey of

752
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: the Rams, and then our own Tredevious White's pretty good list.

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00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,320
Speaker 1: It's a strong list. I don't think there's any question

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00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 1: about that. We should mention that Fowler just didn't do

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00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 1: this arbitrarily on his own. He did seek the input

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00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: of fifty league executives, coaches, scouts, and players to make

757
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:09,720
Speaker 1: these decisions, so he sought input from people with trained

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00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 1: eyes who know how to evaluate the ins and outs

759
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 1: of play and technique, etc. So among some of the

760
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 1: more interesting quotes that were given anonymously, one defensive assistant

761
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: coach in the league about Trey said, his technique is impressive.

762
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 1: He's arrived as a top flight guy. I think the

763
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: most respected part of Trey's game is he is a

764
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 1: complete cornerback. I mean, in Coach McDermott's defense, corners need

765
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: to be reliable and run support. You can't just be

766
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: a Dion Sanders blanket cover guy. You got to come

767
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 1: up and tackle people and help on the edge. And

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00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: I mean, Trey isn't a monster hitter by any means,

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00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: but he's a good wrap up, open field tackler and

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00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 1: he gives that to you along with you know, the

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00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 1: other more noticeable parts of his game. Yeah, and another

772
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 1: passing game coordinator from the league said, he tackles, he

773
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 1: can play zone, he can play man, can cover the

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00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,760
Speaker 1: best guy. He helps him run support. He's the complete package,

775
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: and the only knock on him was turnovers. But he

776
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: answered that this year he was a tied for the

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00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: league lead with six interceptions, so that you know he's yeah,

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00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 1: he's elite, he's doing he's doing great. And they also acknowledge,

779
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: as as always we do it here all the time

780
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: in Buffalo, that if he played in New York, if

781
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: he played in Dallas, the guy to be a household name,

782
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: and he is here in Buffalo. But because of the

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00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 1: size of the city and the size of the fan

784
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Speaker 1: base and the notoriety they've gotten around the country, he's

785
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 1: just not there yet. But except for the people who

786
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 1: actually know what they're talking about. Yeah, and another, you know,

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00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: the Bills get to the playoffs again this year, there's

788
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: more eyeballs on him then. Um. You know, he had

789
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 1: that big match up last year in the wild card

790
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: game with DeAndre Hopkins, so he'll be playing against the

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00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 1: top flight guy when he gets to the playoffs again,

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00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 1: you know, providing Bills, you know, meet expectations and get

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00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 1: there again. Right, all right, that's it. We're gonna take

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00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 1: a break. Dan Kaplan coming up at the top of

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00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,760
Speaker 1: the hour. Business a sports business reporter for the Athletics

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker. Chris Brown coming back after the break with

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Speaker 1: Daniel Kaplan, One Bill's Live presenter by Kalid to health.

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Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Oh a great time watch

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Speaker 1: Steve Laskers dows down at all time. Welcome to One

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00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: Bill's Live. Steve Tasker along with Chris Brown here till

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00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 1: three o'clock. We're asking you, our listeners, what do you

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00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 1: think the best case scenario is for the naming rights

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00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills Stadium. As you heard in the update,

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00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 1: the New Era Cap Company and the Buffalo Bills have

805
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 1: parted ways seems amiaicably. However, that leaves the stadium to

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00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 1: be named something else. We've had a lot of feedback

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00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 1: on Twitter about people who are asking who are who

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00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 1: have ideas about what it should be named, and we're

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00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 1: gonna stick with that throughout the game. Throughout the day,

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Speaker 1: you can call us it into three five fifty one

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Speaker 1: eight eight fifty two five fifty. But for right now

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Speaker 1: we're gonna be joined on the line by Daniel Kaplan.

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Speaker 1: He's a sports business reporter for the adleg and we're

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Speaker 1: pleased to have him on. Dan Steve Tasker, Chris Brown

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Speaker 1: here in Buffalo. Thanks for joining us, and we have

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00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: to ask the first question out of the box, how

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00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,879
Speaker 1: are you doing during the pandemic. Is your family safe

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00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: and well? We thank you for asking. Yeah, we are

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Speaker 1: safe and well. My kids are actually at camp today

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00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 1: and I am in day whatever it is of working

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Speaker 1: from home on the upper West side of Manhattan. But

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Speaker 1: all as well. Well, I'm glad to hear it. We

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Speaker 1: appreciate you take us some time to come on and

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00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: know all of it, and even us we are both

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00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 1: in our respective homes our entire crew, so did you.

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Speaker 1: So we're working from home as well. We can feel

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00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 1: your pain. Talk about this naming rights with the new

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Speaker 1: air of field. I know it's rare, but every stadium

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Speaker 1: you know, makes a little bit of side cash and

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00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 1: sometimes a lot of side cash on naming rights to

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Speaker 1: their stadium. New air Field is no more and now

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Speaker 1: it's up to the highest bidder. Do you have any

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00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 1: any interesting thoughts about how these naming rights deals work? Well, um,

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Speaker 1: usually it's a it's a one of Buffalo. Was unusual

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Speaker 1: in that it was a local company and not a

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Speaker 1: not really the not a mega company. Usually it's American Airlines,

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Speaker 1: it's United, it's an automobile company, it's a financial services company.

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00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 1: H if the airline an airline name the facility in

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Speaker 1: Las Vegas Financial Company, and in La it was a

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00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: bit unusual in Buffalo, and I think the conventional wisdom

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00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: is New York did the deal for for Civic Pride,

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00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,320
Speaker 1: and obviously the pandemic has hit it hard and it

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00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 1: doesn't make any financial sense for them to stay in

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Speaker 1: So I'm sure Buffalo will hire a marketing agency, will

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Speaker 1: put out the word and start, you know, start searching

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00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 1: for companies. It's obviously not a great time to do

847
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 1: that though. Yeah, that was gonna be my next question, Janel.

848
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 1: How how challenging do you think it is in this

849
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: current climate for them to find a partner for a

850
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 1: venture like this. Well, it's not just trying to find

851
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: a company that will look the other way that there

852
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 1: won't be fans in the stands, and it's it's this,

853
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: it's and we don't know when fans will be back.

854
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 1: It's the the financial a lot of these companies have taken.

855
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 1: The airline industry has been decimated. You're you're not going

856
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 1: to get an airline company to do it if the

857
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: financial services it's there. If they do find a naming

858
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: rights partner, my I guess would be that it would

859
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 1: be for a lot less money the new euro was paying. Steve,

860
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 1: you're there, man, I hear you now. Yeah. The league,

861
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 1: the league continues to move on, even with each each

862
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 1: franchise fighting its own challenges. But the owners and players

863
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 1: meet Friday. The owners have a meeting Friday. There with

864
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 1: the pandemic looming the start of the season pushing down

865
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 1: on them. Uh, COVID cases in certain part of the

866
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 1: country are are you know, skyrocketing still? Um? What do

867
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: you think is going to come of the owners meeting

868
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: on Friday? What do you think are the things on

869
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 1: their agenda that are most pressing for fans? Well, they

870
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: u my hunches. They're going to probably do away with

871
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 1: pres preseason. Um, they've already shaved it from four to

872
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: two games, having teams travel around for preseason and this

873
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 1: environment seems seems ridiculous. So if my guess is they

874
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:19,280
Speaker 1: will do that. They need to have a testing protocol

875
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: set up with the players that the players will agree to.

876
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: The players want to be tested every day. The owners

877
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:29,919
Speaker 1: have wanted a more conservative approach. They need to reach

878
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: agreement on that. Things like what do players get paid

879
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 1: if they get covid? Um. It's disagreement on that because

880
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 1: right now, it's not considered a football injury. Should it

881
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 1: be considered a football injury? All those sorts of things

882
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 1: need to be hashed out, and Daniel, that's that's a

883
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 1: lot of ground to cover and what is amounting to

884
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 1: about two weeks before camps are supposed to open. I

885
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,760
Speaker 1: know the NFL has been animant about staying on schedule.

886
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:04,720
Speaker 1: Do you think that all those hurdles can be cleared

887
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 1: or is there a greater and greater likelihood with each

888
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 1: passing day that they push back the training camp report date,

889
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 1: which for teams is pretty much July twenty ninth. Yeah,

890
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 1: it's it's it's surely coming up, and there is there

891
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 1: is that prospect. I mean, you've got hotspots in Houston, Phoenix, Miami, Atlanta,

892
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 1: all these markets that are big NFL and NFL markets,

893
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 1: and the league has continuency plans for the season to

894
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:40,800
Speaker 1: be pushed back. That's no secret that they could push

895
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 1: the season back a few weeks a month if they

896
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 1: had to. Of course you could do that, and the

897
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 1: virus could be even worse come in the middle of October.

898
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 1: So my guess is training camps will open on time,

899
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 1: but they won't won't have preseason. What do you think

900
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 1: the concessions that are on the table are they gonna

901
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 1: You know, the money is always a little bit of

902
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: the central issue, or maybe the whole central issue of

903
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 1: the players. What are they will they get paid this

904
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 1: stipend for just showing up? What if the season gets

905
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 1: suspended halfway through or a third or the way through

906
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 1: or two weeks in? What about players who have opted out?

907
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: How is this going to affect their career status of

908
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 1: getting an accrude season? There's these are all details that

909
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 1: really fans don't care so much about, but really they

910
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: care about because it's they're holding up the process, right,

911
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 1: I mean, the opt out is is certainly something that

912
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 1: needs to be negotiated. The players, though, are somewhat in

913
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 1: the driver's seat because the terms of the CBA. If

914
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 1: they there is one game played, they they are they

915
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: would if you read the language of the contract, they

916
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 1: get paid for the rest of the season. Um. The

917
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 1: real issue is the timing. If if if revenues fall

918
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 1: off a cliff year because there's no fans in the

919
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: stands and they decline two three four billion dollars, well

920
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 1: that won't get reflected in twenty twenty pay, it will

921
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: get reflected in twenty twenty one pay, and both sides

922
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 1: don't want to see a cap fall thirty forty year

923
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 1: over year. So the discussion is to smooth that out

924
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: over futwo years from twenty twenty one, twenty two, twenty

925
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 1: three and onward, or do you take some of it

926
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 1: out of twenty twenty And that's part of the discussion now.

927
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 1: Right now we're talking with Daniel Kaplan, sports business reporter

928
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 1: for the Athletics. So Daniel, you've got you've got that negotiation,

929
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: which I know the NFL came to the union with

930
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 1: and said, well, let's put thirty five percent of the

931
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 1: money in an escrow account, and they were like, yeah,

932
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 1: no way, Jose. But at some point the players are

933
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: going to have to be some kind of partner in

934
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 1: the shortfall here, because if they don't have if they

935
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: don't agree to any kind of giveback now, whether it's

936
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:04,359
Speaker 1: or some other means, their their players, the players union

937
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 1: is going to get hit in future years anyway. So

938
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: it's either be a partner now or suffer the consequences later, right,

939
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 1: I mean, isn't that kind of what they're up against? Well?

940
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,439
Speaker 1: I think what the players union feels is it should

941
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: be spread out, and it should be spread out over

942
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: future years. There's nine ten years left to the CBA.

943
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: Spread it out over those years. Especially essence, you'll have

944
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:32,919
Speaker 1: new media deals in the next couple of years, which

945
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:36,840
Speaker 1: presumably we'll see a big revenue increase. So if you

946
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: have that, take it out of that rather than have

947
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 1: a dramatic decrease this year or next year. That that's

948
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 1: the player's perspective. The owners, you know, don't want to,

949
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 1: you know, don't want to do that because it means

950
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 1: they're they're putting the bill in waiting to get paid

951
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 1: over future years. What do you think the other aspects

952
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 1: of the hold up are compared to where the equipment?

953
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 1: You know, we've got the face shield that's been unveiled

954
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 1: this year, the NFL, NFLPA or seemingly at odds over that.

955
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 1: Which which side is which side on Does the NFLPA

956
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 1: not want the masks or do they do? Or does

957
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 1: the NFL say with them, you need to wear these

958
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:19,439
Speaker 1: masks and the players don't want to. How's that working?

959
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 1: Which side of the each side fallowing? Because I can

960
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 1: see the rationale for both well, the NFLPA sort of

961
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 1: falls on both sides there. There's a joint NFLPA NFL

962
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 1: Medical committee that has recommended the face shield. The NFLPA

963
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:36,720
Speaker 1: has not signed off on it, but their own medical

964
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 1: doctors on this committee have, so that that's a my

965
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 1: my my hunches that that will pass. And it's hard

966
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,319
Speaker 1: to see the argument not to use it. If it's

967
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 1: if you use the players are saying protect us, and

968
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 1: the owners come and say, okay, here's the shield, and

969
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 1: the players say, no, we don't want to use it.

970
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 1: That's a that's a tough that's a tougher self for

971
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 1: the players, I believe. And then Daniel, just with respect

972
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 1: to some of these hotspot cities that you know are

973
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:09,839
Speaker 1: in states that have or host NFL clubs, I mean,

974
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 1: the spread is not going to drop dramatically in the

975
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 1: next couple of weeks. I don't anticipate for especially some

976
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:18,760
Speaker 1: of these southern states or Arizona and Texas as you mentioned.

977
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 1: Could you foresee a situation where can't make start on

978
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 1: time for the Dallas Cowboys. But maybe it's not. It's

979
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:32,359
Speaker 1: not in Frisco, Texas, It's it's in some nearby state

980
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 1: with better COVID numbers. I'm wondering if if there's a

981
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:39,479
Speaker 1: potential for that for some of these teams in high

982
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 1: spread states. I mean, hypothetically, that would be a good idea.

983
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 1: I don't think practically it works at this point. I mean,

984
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 1: moving Dallas Cowboys training camp into the middle of I

985
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 1: don't know, South Dakota, wherever it might be. It's I mean,

986
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 1: you need training facilities, you need accommodations, you need everything

987
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 1: that goes with training an NFL team, which is a

988
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 1: massive endeavor. No, I think they're at this point stuck

989
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 1: with training camps in their home markets, which is what

990
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 1: they've announced previously. So they'll either have to live with

991
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 1: the high COVID numbers and deal with the inevitable positive

992
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:24,479
Speaker 1: results that come with that, or you know, they'll push

993
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 1: back training camp and hope these numbers received, which you

994
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 1: know there's no indication right now that's happening. I mean,

995
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 1: you saw the state of Georgia. The governor you know,

996
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 1: I don't get into politics, but he won't he won't

997
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 1: allow municipalities to enforce a face mask requirement. So it's

998
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 1: it's it's tough to see in municipalities like that. The

999
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 1: numbers going down. Are you surprised, though, Daniel, that the

1000
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 1: NFL as a league, just with respect to training camp,

1001
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 1: especially if we get to the point where there are

1002
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 1: no preseason games, why haven't they even considered the possibility,

1003
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 1: at least for the training camp period to set up

1004
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 1: a bubble for each team. That's it's a good question. Now,

1005
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 1: on the other hand, you know the NBA and MLS

1006
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 1: and w NBA set up went to the bubble and

1007
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 1: they they ended up in a state which is now

1008
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 1: an epicenter of COVID. So um uh. Now hopefully they

1009
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 1: will be protected within the bubble. And it's pretty it's

1010
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 1: pretty amazing the technology the NBA has within its bubble

1011
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 1: to track players and test them every day and have

1012
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 1: them fill out medical forms every every morning. You wake

1013
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 1: up in the bubble and you fill out the checklist

1014
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 1: of how you feel and put it into an app,

1015
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 1: and you can't go anywhere if one question turns up red.

1016
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 1: It's it's pretty pretty amazing. So you look at that

1017
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 1: compared to the NFL and Major League Baseball, and you

1018
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 1: you really wonder how it's going to work with those

1019
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 1: two sports. We're talking with Daniel Kaplan's sports business reporter

1020
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 1: for The Athletic at an article about the Ladies European

1021
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 1: Tour and some of the technologies that are available to

1022
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 1: athletes these days. There's a band that they can wear

1023
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 1: that gives you biometric tech information in their technologies. The

1024
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 1: NFLPA is seemingly is I guess an investor in that

1025
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 1: they put some money into this technology. How far will

1026
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 1: that go towards smoothing the road towards these guys coming back?

1027
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 1: If the NFL can use these these bands what they

1028
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 1: call them Whoop Whoop biometric technology that gives symptoms real

1029
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 1: time of whoever's wearing them, and they can keep track

1030
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 1: and keep a lid on guys who have symptoms of

1031
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 1: COVID quicker and what are the chances of that being

1032
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 1: a factor in the return to work. Well, my expectation

1033
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 1: is a number of NFL players will actually be wearing

1034
00:59:55,160 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 1: Whoop bands, and there's possible there's an agreement with with

1035
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 1: the league at some point on that it's one more

1036
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 1: tool in the arsenal. The idea behind the Whoop band

1037
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 1: is it tracks your breathing rate and your respiratory rate,

1038
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 1: and your heart rate and your sleep patterns and as

1039
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 1: something goes awry, and that based on the data it

1040
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 1: has on you, you can see that there was a

1041
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 1: golfer who was playing a golf tournament a few weeks ago,

1042
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 1: three four weeks ago, Watney I think his name is,

1043
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:28,480
Speaker 1: and he wears a whoop band, and it showed that

1044
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 1: his breathing rate was elevated, which is a COVID symptom.

1045
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 1: He got tested and it turned out he was positive.

1046
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 1: So there haven't been any other examples like that. But

1047
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 1: that's the premise behind the whoop bands being one one

1048
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 1: more tool in the arsenal of detecting COVID. The last

1049
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 1: one I had for you, Daniel, is with respect to

1050
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 1: fan capacity levels, we see some NFL teams announcing varying figures.

1051
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 1: You know, we saw the Patriots earlier this week say

1052
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 1: twenty percent capacity provided local and municipal entities approve it.

1053
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 1: Do you sense any pushback on that with respect to

1054
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 1: the union or otherwise. I mean, I know we've got

1055
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 1: the first eight nine rows already blocked off across the board,

1056
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 1: but varying fan capacity levels, I just wonder with you know, third,

1057
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Speaker 1: what is it thirty different stadiums? How that's all gonna

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Speaker 1: line up. It's going to be different stadium the stadium.

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Speaker 1: I have not heard of pushback from the Union on that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure if there are examples of bands

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Speaker 1: getting too close to players during games, that will they'll

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Speaker 1: they will certainly be raised. But at this point it

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Speaker 1: should These are just plans by the teams to have

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Speaker 1: twenty percent or thirty percent capacity. It's we don't know

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Speaker 1: what I mean. Even Miami Dolphins to shore in the

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Speaker 1: middle of an epicenter, they still say they want fans

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Speaker 1: in their stadium at hard Rock. So it's going to

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Speaker 1: be up to the individual municipality in terms of health regulations, government,

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Speaker 1: you know, the government say so me Up there in Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: I think the governor has said so far no fans

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Speaker 1: at sporting events. So it doesn't matter of Buffalo in

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Speaker 1: your case wanted fans, it's up to It's up to

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Speaker 1: the governor. We're talking to Daniel Kaplan's sports business reporter

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Speaker 1: for the Athletic and one of the big things about

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Speaker 1: that happened in the National Football League pertaining to business

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Speaker 1: was the Washington franchise that is going to change its

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Speaker 1: logo and its nickname. What does in the big picture,

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Speaker 1: what's it mean and what's it going to mean for

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Speaker 1: the old stuff that used to be their logo and nickname.

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Speaker 1: What happens to all of that stuff? How do do

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Speaker 1: the partner corporate partners adjust to this? What are the

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Speaker 1: ripple effects of the Washington team changing its name? Well,

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01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:02,920
Speaker 1: the the old stuff gets sold at discount and you know,

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01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 1: get shipped around the world, you know, and given away,

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01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 1: and it's a it's a firesale for that's sort of

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01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:14,440
Speaker 1: that's sort of gear. If you're a partner of the

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Speaker 1: Washington football team, it's tough right now because this was

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Speaker 1: this was just unveiled weeks before training camp, without much advance,

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Speaker 1: without any advanced notice, and you you might already have plans,

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01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:35,000
Speaker 1: creative merchandise ready to go with the old logo. So

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Speaker 1: that's that's a that is certainly a problem. The other

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01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 1: thing you have hovering over the team is this alleged,

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01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 1: uh massive story the Washington Post is supposed to drop

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01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:49,479
Speaker 1: any any moment now about the culture of the team.

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01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's true, but it's been all

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Speaker 1: over the all over social media. That's something big is

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Speaker 1: coming about culture the Washington football team. Yeah, and we'll

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01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 1: be watching for that as well, and and for all

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Speaker 1: the preliminary information we've gotten. I hope it's good. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, I hope it's worth waiting for. But I

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Speaker 1: don't know that it could outdo the uh, the hype

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Speaker 1: that has got right, I mean, because we're all waiting

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Speaker 1: on this this other shoe to drop, like there's something,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's gonna happen, like Daniel Snyder is from

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01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 1: Mars or something. It's got to be something along those

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01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 1: lines that um is gonna be with what we've heard, right,

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Speaker 1: I think, right, yeah, they might, Yeah, they might be

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Speaker 1: hoping that. All right, Dan, thanks so much for joining us.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate it. I hope you stay well in the pandemic

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Speaker 1: and thanks for being here with us today. All right,

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Speaker 1: thanks a lot. By Daniel Kaplan, sports business reporter for

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Speaker 1: The Athletic. You know the stuff. I asked him, Brownie

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01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 1: about the Washington gear that's getting sold or what happens

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01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 1: to the old stuff, and he says, well, it gets

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01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 1: shipped overseas and they, you know, give it away as

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01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:56,480
Speaker 1: charity or whatever. That's the same thing that happened to

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Buffalo Bills Super Bowl twenty five, twenty six,

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01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 1: twenty seven and twenty eight World Championship t shirts. You

1119
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 1: see there were children and there were children in Africa

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01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 1: and New Zealand. They were they thought the bills were

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01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:12,680
Speaker 1: the best thing since sliced bread. That's what happened to

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01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 1: all that gear. Yeah, I think I don't know about

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Speaker 1: you in this twenty minute conversation that we have with

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Speaker 1: Daniel Kaplan, but the biggest thing that I took away

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Speaker 1: from that because I think the time constraints here are

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01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:28,160
Speaker 1: quickly becoming the biggest stumbling block. You've got a lot

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01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 1: to iron out here in a very short period of time.

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Speaker 1: And it seems to me, based on what Daniel said

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01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 1: he's hearing from league officials as well as union people,

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Speaker 1: is they may scrap the preseason as a means for

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01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:48,040
Speaker 1: buying time star training camp on time, but then by

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01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:51,800
Speaker 1: time by not having preseason games and players traveling and

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01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:54,160
Speaker 1: all of that. Right, I think that that's the kind

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01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 1: of big takeaway I have from that. Me too. That

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01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:58,320
Speaker 1: stuck out to me as well, because he and to

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01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:00,880
Speaker 1: say they're just gonna do away with all those preseason games.

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01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:04,000
Speaker 1: I think that was the biggest thing. And the way

1138
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 1: he and I don't know, he doesn't. He's talked to

1139
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:09,680
Speaker 1: people and he gets their body language, in their verbiage

1140
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:11,440
Speaker 1: and what the his It sounded to me like he

1141
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 1: believes that's going to happen, Not that he knows for sure,

1142
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 1: but he thinks that's the probability that there's not going

1143
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 1: to be any preseason games that right, Which is why

1144
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 1: I followed up with the with the question about the

1145
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:27,640
Speaker 1: bubble scenario, Because if you're not gonna go play preseason games,

1146
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 1: whether it's in your own stadium or traveling as the

1147
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 1: away team, and it's may and logistically it may be

1148
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 1: too late and to institute this anyway. But with all

1149
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:44,040
Speaker 1: the hoops that you're various NFL facilities are jumping through

1150
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 1: now to meet all the protocols right now, I don't

1151
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:51,160
Speaker 1: know why for the three or four weeks or actually

1152
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:53,600
Speaker 1: would probably be longer than that if there's no preseason,

1153
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:56,320
Speaker 1: but for the length of time at which your players

1154
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 1: are a training camp, why not put the thirty two

1155
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 1: teams in a bubble if they're not playing games and

1156
01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 1: leaving town for the foreseeable future, try to set up

1157
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 1: a bubble for each team, And that would I think

1158
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 1: that would be a good faith effort that the players

1159
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:16,160
Speaker 1: would like to hear and would appreciate, because I'm actually

1160
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 1: kind of saying, hey, I don't know, you don't know.

1161
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, Because then the players have to say

1162
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 1: goodbye to their wives and families, right, But a lot

1163
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 1: of them do that. A lot of them do that

1164
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:29,480
Speaker 1: with respect to to you know, like the Bills players

1165
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 1: had to do that because they go away to training camp.

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Speaker 1: You know, they're in dorm rooms at Saint John Fisher.

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01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:39,560
Speaker 1: I know they have family days periodically, but well that

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01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:41,600
Speaker 1: means though, Yeah, but you'd have to do that all

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01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:43,000
Speaker 1: the way through the season. It can't be just for

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Speaker 1: training camp. It can't be for two weeks at Saint

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01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 1: John Fisher, two and a half weeks at Saint John Fisher.

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Speaker 1: It'd have to be for four months in Buffalo. Yeah,

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01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 1: And I was just a different scenario. I was just thinking,

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01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:56,160
Speaker 1: the ultimate goal here is to get to the regular

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01:07:56,200 --> 01:08:00,360
Speaker 1: season and play games. Yes, so you can, so you

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01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:03,920
Speaker 1: can maintain the revenue streams that you still have left.

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Speaker 1: And if you're not going to play preseason games, to

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01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 1: try to keep the spread limited and reduce the exposure

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01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:17,639
Speaker 1: for your players and coaches, and you're not going anywhere

1180
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:20,920
Speaker 1: for the better part of four weeks, why not set

1181
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 1: up team bubbles for those four weeks and then you know,

1182
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 1: when you get to the regular season and you have

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01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 1: to travel, get out of the bubble. Well, the only thing,

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01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:31,160
Speaker 1: the only reason they're not doing that is because of

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Speaker 1: the families, because they are doing that, right, you're seeing

1186
01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:37,479
Speaker 1: the pictures right, right. But if the players say and

1187
01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:41,880
Speaker 1: claim as they are that safety, we're concerned about the

1188
01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:45,600
Speaker 1: safety for our players. I think if if you're not

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01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:48,240
Speaker 1: going anywhere for preseason games, you can at least argue

1190
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:50,759
Speaker 1: the fact, well, you're safer if you're in a bubble.

1191
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:53,880
Speaker 1: The NBA is doing it, you know, So I think

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01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:55,560
Speaker 1: that's a great place for the for the league to

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01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:57,439
Speaker 1: come back in say listen, okay, we'll make it as

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01:08:57,439 --> 01:08:58,960
Speaker 1: safe as we can. But you've got to say goodbye

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01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 1: to your wife and family for for four marketing camp,

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01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:03,600
Speaker 1: for training camp at least, and then that's what you

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01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:05,680
Speaker 1: got to do. And then if your family wants to

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01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:07,720
Speaker 1: if you want to see your family, they got to

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Speaker 1: get tested. You got to quarantine and then they can

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01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 1: come in and say hello, Well, yeah, I think once

1201
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:14,679
Speaker 1: you get to the regular season. I think it's almost

1202
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 1: too possible because you're gonna have to travel for games,

1203
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:18,760
Speaker 1: so you're out of the bubble. So I'm not talking

1204
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 1: about regular season. I'm just talking about if you're not

1205
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:24,120
Speaker 1: If we get to a point where there's no preseason

1206
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:27,479
Speaker 1: games and teams aren't traveling, why not for the four

1207
01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:30,040
Speaker 1: week period of training camp, try to set up a

1208
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:33,000
Speaker 1: bubble and that way, you know, you have a greater

1209
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:35,559
Speaker 1: chance of going into the regular season without any spread.

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Speaker 1: That's what they're doing. That's what they're doing, are they. Yeah,

1211
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:42,720
Speaker 1: I mean they got all the hold up night Well yeah,

1212
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:47,640
Speaker 1: but yes, But here's the thing, here's and here's a problem, Brownie. Well,

1213
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Speaker 1: I didn't know this until Dan Kaplan just told us this.

1214
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 1: The sports business reporter for the Athletic was just on

1215
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 1: and did you notice what he said? If one game

1216
01:09:57,200 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 1: is played and they go belly up on the season,

1217
01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 1: all those get paid for the whole season, Right, that's

1218
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:07,320
Speaker 1: as if you can't, Yeah, you can't. You can't go

1219
01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:09,439
Speaker 1: backwards that all of a sudden, you can you imagine

1220
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Speaker 1: paying those guys and not having any television money, no money. Yeah,

1221
01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:16,679
Speaker 1: the problems areas you've got two weeks until training camp,

1222
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:18,759
Speaker 1: and I don't know if you can set up thirty

1223
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:21,639
Speaker 1: two team bubbles if you're scrapping the preseason at least

1224
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:23,760
Speaker 1: for the period of training camp. I just think they

1225
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 1: want to get to the rest start of the regular

1226
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 1: season as healthy as possible, and I think if you're

1227
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Speaker 1: not playing preseason games, you should at least entertain the

1228
01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:34,040
Speaker 1: option of trying to set up thirty two bubbles. Listen,

1229
01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:36,000
Speaker 1: they're trying to you know, they're trying to do that

1230
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 1: as well as they can. They got to what happens

1231
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:40,640
Speaker 1: is they gotta trust the players, and that's where it

1232
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:43,719
Speaker 1: gets dicey. Yeah, kid, you know some rookie free agent

1233
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 1: right if they're going home at the end of the

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01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:48,519
Speaker 1: work day, it's not a bubble because you don't know

1235
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Speaker 1: what those guys are doing exactly. And that's always been

1236
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 1: from the very first day they started talking about This

1237
01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:57,360
Speaker 1: has always been the problem. So we'll see Steve Tacker,

1238
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Speaker 1: Chris Brown. Thanks to Daniel Kaplan for coming around at

1239
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Speaker 1: one o'clock. We had him on for a half hour.

1240
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:03,680
Speaker 1: The sports business reporter for The Athletic. A lot of

1241
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:06,800
Speaker 1: good stuff in that interview. Lorenzo Alexander coming up at two,

1242
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:09,240
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, Chris Brown coming back right after the break.

1243
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Speaker 1: What's your preferred outcome for the Bills stadium naming rights?

1244
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:16,240
Speaker 1: Let us know eight o three oh five fifty or

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Speaker 1: one eight eight five fifty two five fifty. This is

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio presented by Kalidah Health. This is One

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Speaker 1: Bills Live. Welcome back for one of Bill's lives. Keep

1248
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:37,720
Speaker 1: taster and Chris Brown here till three o'clock. Thanks to

1249
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:40,799
Speaker 1: Daniel Kapran for coming on last half hour, the business

1250
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 1: sports business reporter for The Athletic. A lot of cool stuff.

1251
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:46,080
Speaker 1: He thinks that the Bills the preseason is going to

1252
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:48,680
Speaker 1: be all washed away. It's gonna go away completely in

1253
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 1: the National Football League. Uh, and a lot of other

1254
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 1: stuff that he that that we spoke about as well.

1255
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:56,519
Speaker 1: You can go back and listen to that on the

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01:11:56,680 --> 01:12:00,479
Speaker 1: podcast part of Buffalo Bills dot Com, the Buffalo Bills App, Spotify,

1257
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:02,760
Speaker 1: Google Play, Apple Podcast. You can catch any portion of

1258
01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:05,720
Speaker 1: the show on those platforms. Brownie, another thing that's coming out.

1259
01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:09,360
Speaker 1: We've got another Mattie Glad put out another camp Can't

1260
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Speaker 1: Countdown article, and this one is about the versatility of

1261
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 1: some of the players on the team and who has

1262
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:18,920
Speaker 1: the most and some a couple of surprises on there

1263
01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 1: considering they're new to the team. Well, I think we

1264
01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:27,880
Speaker 1: knew that Quentin Jefferson was. I mean, he's a guy

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01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:30,880
Speaker 1: that stands out to me. But Quinn Jefferson is a

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Speaker 1: guy that can play end on rundowns, kick inside on

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Speaker 1: passing downs. We had a chance to speak to him

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01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:43,800
Speaker 1: on a zoom call earlier in the spring after he

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01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:47,400
Speaker 1: had signed, and he kind of told us three technique

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01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:50,720
Speaker 1: is his favorite position to play in pass rushing situations,

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01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:54,000
Speaker 1: so he would certainly be a candidate for that. And

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01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 1: I know Maddie referenced the next Gen stat that Jefferson

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01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 1: led the Seahawks and quarterback pressure rate among their interior

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01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:08,240
Speaker 1: defensive lineman over the last two seasons combined. So I

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01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:11,400
Speaker 1: think he has more to offer than maybe people realize.

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01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:16,080
Speaker 1: And we know that coach McDermott loves players that offer

1277
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 1: position flexibility because not only does it give the coaching

1278
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:22,360
Speaker 1: staff more options, I think it makes your unit more

1279
01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:27,320
Speaker 1: unpredictable to the opponent. That's exactly right. You don't if

1280
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:29,519
Speaker 1: you can line a guy up in different spots you

1281
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:32,840
Speaker 1: don't know exactly what philosophy you're going to get from

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01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:35,640
Speaker 1: their pressure package. And like I've said before in the

1283
01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:37,439
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks, the thing that stands out if

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01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:39,759
Speaker 1: they can get starting getting pressure with just four guys

1285
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:43,559
Speaker 1: and getting pressure now and consistently, their defense is going

1286
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:47,680
Speaker 1: to become exponentially better. They certainly climbed back into the

1287
01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:49,920
Speaker 1: sack rankings. They got in the top twelve of the

1288
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 1: sack rankings last year, but it was in the second

1289
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:54,599
Speaker 1: half of the year that they came on. The first

1290
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:56,960
Speaker 1: half of the year they didn't a little bit because

1291
01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:59,360
Speaker 1: the offense was turning it over so much and teams

1292
01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:03,080
Speaker 1: weren't really pressured to score a lot of points. But

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01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 1: I think with Quintin Jefferson and all the new additions

1294
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:08,360
Speaker 1: they've got to their front defensive front, they're going to

1295
01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:12,800
Speaker 1: start getting more pressure faster with fewer people. And that

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01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:15,600
Speaker 1: is big, It is very big, and Quintin Jefferson is

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01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 1: going to help with that. The other new guy that

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01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 1: fans you know, might not have a complete handle on.

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01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:23,439
Speaker 1: I mean, they know who he is, but Stefan Diggs,

1300
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:26,680
Speaker 1: you can line him up anywhere. Now. I don't know

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01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 1: that the Bills will be deploying him in a multi

1302
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:34,160
Speaker 1: positional fashion, knowing you have a more than capable slot

1303
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:37,679
Speaker 1: receiver in Cole Beasley, you know, and a fellow guy

1304
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:40,880
Speaker 1: that you can line up at the Z in John Brown.

1305
01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:45,160
Speaker 1: But I think what people may not know about Stefan

1306
01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:49,519
Speaker 1: Diggs is in his four years in Minnesota, he's been

1307
01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:54,400
Speaker 1: used everywhere and has produced no matter where they lined

1308
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 1: him up. I know they put him in the slot

1309
01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:02,679
Speaker 1: almost exclusively. I want to say it was twenty eighteen,

1310
01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:08,200
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, he was mostly in the sixteen Yeah, yeah, right,

1311
01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:11,160
Speaker 1: And you know you give Stefan Diggs a two way go,

1312
01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:15,080
Speaker 1: Holy cow, that's that's a nightmare for a dB. I

1313
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:18,400
Speaker 1: don't care who's on the other side. And they've also,

1314
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:22,040
Speaker 1: you know, lined him up exclusively outside running more deeper routes.

1315
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:27,120
Speaker 1: He produced there. So you look at what he has

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01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 1: done and the different places where he's lined up. I

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01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:35,160
Speaker 1: just envisioned coach Dable in a given week, if he

1318
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:39,520
Speaker 1: sees a matchup to exploit. I don't think he hesitates

1319
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:44,680
Speaker 1: for a second to move Digs around in a given game. Hey,

1320
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:47,160
Speaker 1: it may even it might even be in a playoff game.

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01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:49,680
Speaker 1: You know, They've got all this tape of digs at

1322
01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:51,720
Speaker 1: the X, digs at the X, digs at the X

1323
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:54,360
Speaker 1: for sixteen weeks, and then you get to a divisional

1324
01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:56,120
Speaker 1: playoff round and all of a sudden, he's in the

1325
01:15:56,200 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 1: slot and the defenses go, wow, who hold on here?

1326
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:01,800
Speaker 1: What the hell's going? Well, it's not only that too,

1327
01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:09,360
Speaker 1: You've got the added ability to put Cole Beasley someplace sells,

1328
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:13,200
Speaker 1: put John Brown someplace sells, move those guys around, and

1329
01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:14,960
Speaker 1: all of a sudden you come out, you go four wide.

1330
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:17,160
Speaker 1: You've got Diggs in the slot, Cole Beasley in the slot,

1331
01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:20,519
Speaker 1: John Brown outside of Diggs, and then you've got like

1332
01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:23,439
Speaker 1: Azay McKenzie or Zach Moss or or one of these

1333
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:25,840
Speaker 1: young receivers you know that we don't know about a

1334
01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:31,000
Speaker 1: big guy like I. It's it's it just gives you

1335
01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 1: all kinds of two way goes. You put one of

1336
01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:36,479
Speaker 1: the big receivers like Gabriel Davis six two two ten

1337
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:40,400
Speaker 1: outside of Cole Beasley on the other side, along with

1338
01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:46,240
Speaker 1: John Brown and Steph Diggs on the on the other side. Yeah,

1339
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:49,640
Speaker 1: that's that's a coverage problem that spreads him pretty thin.

1340
01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:52,600
Speaker 1: So not only those teams don't have four corners of

1341
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:56,040
Speaker 1: that kind of caliber, that's right. And then if you've

1342
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:59,840
Speaker 1: got a guy, you know, and we're just Zack moss

1343
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:02,599
Speaker 1: Is in the backfield, and all of a sudden, here's

1344
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:07,479
Speaker 1: a two hundred and five pound guy with some power.

1345
01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:09,720
Speaker 1: And now you gotta you gotta bear up for the

1346
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:13,680
Speaker 1: running game, and then you gotta spread out for the

1347
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:16,360
Speaker 1: passing game. And you got Josh out by the way,

1348
01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:18,680
Speaker 1: you got Josh Allen back there, who could just do

1349
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:22,479
Speaker 1: a power sweep, you know, right at two corners. Right.

1350
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:26,800
Speaker 1: So it's an issue, and it's a lot of fun

1351
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:29,720
Speaker 1: to think about, but it's all made possible by the

1352
01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:32,040
Speaker 1: versatility of a guy like Steph Diggs who can line

1353
01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:34,920
Speaker 1: up anywhere, and he lines up anywhere, and he's the

1354
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:37,439
Speaker 1: number one guy. He's the top priority for the defense

1355
01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:39,400
Speaker 1: to find. So you line him up anywhere, and that

1356
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:41,560
Speaker 1: defense has got to mind its p's and q's to

1357
01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:44,400
Speaker 1: get everybody covered up right and not spread so thin

1358
01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 1: and not blow a coverage. And you add the end

1359
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:50,479
Speaker 1: of the fact that you start him in a spot

1360
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:52,840
Speaker 1: and then you motioned him across the formation to what

1361
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:55,160
Speaker 1: I you know, a formation like I just described and

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01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:58,760
Speaker 1: it's like, well, now what do we do? So it's

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01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:01,360
Speaker 1: it's a lot of one for an offensive coordinator to

1364
01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:04,839
Speaker 1: think about. They'll be very creative, and you're right, Brownie.

1365
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:08,439
Speaker 1: The thing for an offensive coordinator to do is you

1366
01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:12,679
Speaker 1: do just enough to win the game without showing anything

1367
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:15,160
Speaker 1: that you can still unfurl. And then you get into

1368
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:17,560
Speaker 1: a game where your back is against the wall, you

1369
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:19,439
Speaker 1: can do some things that they haven't seen you do

1370
01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 1: and get some mileage out of it, maybe score some

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01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:23,080
Speaker 1: points out of a score some touchdowns. If you can

1372
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:25,400
Speaker 1: get all the way through the season and you still

1373
01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:28,120
Speaker 1: have ten or fifteen percent of what you need in

1374
01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:31,720
Speaker 1: the background, and you unfurl that during the playoffs, all

1375
01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:33,280
Speaker 1: of a sudden you're deep and maybe even to the

1376
01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:35,840
Speaker 1: super Bowl like that. That's what you can do if

1377
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:38,559
Speaker 1: your guys can execute the rest of the eighty percent

1378
01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:40,320
Speaker 1: of what you're going to do all regular season and

1379
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:42,519
Speaker 1: have twenty percent reserve that you never really needed to

1380
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:46,160
Speaker 1: go to. Yeah, that's big. That's really big. The other

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01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:50,680
Speaker 1: people that made this list were Tremaine Edmonds, Isaiah Mackenzie,

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01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:54,400
Speaker 1: and Matt Milano. Now I know I've mentioned this on

1383
01:18:54,479 --> 01:19:00,280
Speaker 1: the show before, but with Edmonds's I constantly think about

1384
01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:03,479
Speaker 1: the ways in which they are going to replace all

1385
01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:07,160
Speaker 1: the things that Lorenzo Alexander did, whether it was in

1386
01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:10,760
Speaker 1: the big defense or in pass rush packages. Now they

1387
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:14,760
Speaker 1: certainly have signed enough defensive lineman to handle, you know,

1388
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:18,400
Speaker 1: the pass rushing element that Lorenzo brought to the table.

1389
01:19:19,240 --> 01:19:22,719
Speaker 1: But it's hard for me not to think Tremaine Edmonds

1390
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:25,120
Speaker 1: used to line up on the edge at Virginia Tech

1391
01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:31,160
Speaker 1: as a strong side linebacker, and I wonder now that

1392
01:19:31,320 --> 01:19:33,640
Speaker 1: this is Edmund's third year in the defensive system and

1393
01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:36,519
Speaker 1: he knows it like the back of his hand, do

1394
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 1: they deploy him any different way than they are all ready,

1395
01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:43,320
Speaker 1: just to throw a little extra wrinkle at an opponent,

1396
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:46,320
Speaker 1: you know, I know he and Milano were commonly seen,

1397
01:19:46,479 --> 01:19:49,000
Speaker 1: you know, lining up in the A gaps, you know,

1398
01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:50,800
Speaker 1: right near the line of scrimmage, and then you know,

1399
01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:53,280
Speaker 1: somebody would drop into coverage, another guy would rush, or

1400
01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:55,400
Speaker 1: they would both come or you know that kind of stuff.

1401
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:58,720
Speaker 1: I wonder if they move Edmonds around a little bit

1402
01:19:58,840 --> 01:20:01,920
Speaker 1: more this year and maybe take advantage of that length

1403
01:20:02,040 --> 01:20:06,559
Speaker 1: coming off the edge, not often, but maybe just as

1404
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:09,759
Speaker 1: a wrinkle. Now and again, I think The thing about

1405
01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:13,680
Speaker 1: Tremaine that gets me going is the fact that this year,

1406
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:16,040
Speaker 1: you know, they'll have another year under his belt, and

1407
01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:18,360
Speaker 1: he saw him mixed strides. I went back and looked

1408
01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:21,200
Speaker 1: at some of his highlights from the past season, and

1409
01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:23,680
Speaker 1: there's some stuff he does. It's unbelieving. He covers so

1410
01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:27,360
Speaker 1: much ground. The thing I think that's most impressive about

1411
01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:31,679
Speaker 1: Tremaine is he's going to get even more versatile because

1412
01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:34,240
Speaker 1: of his ability to understand the defense, to take gambles,

1413
01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:37,439
Speaker 1: to move places where he's not expected to move. Certainly,

1414
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:39,880
Speaker 1: he's got the physical capabilities to line up anywhere on

1415
01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:45,400
Speaker 1: the defense and play pretty well. But his experience and

1416
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:48,920
Speaker 1: now if they can if they find another corner on

1417
01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:52,280
Speaker 1: the far side to compliment tradevious White where they feel

1418
01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:56,200
Speaker 1: confident they can shut down the outside receivers, Tremaine becomes

1419
01:20:56,280 --> 01:20:59,320
Speaker 1: even more important and more versatile. I think it's athleticisms.

1420
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:03,519
Speaker 1: Athleticism gives him the ability to do anything. His experience

1421
01:21:03,640 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 1: is going to give him the opportunity to do anything.

1422
01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:09,680
Speaker 1: I know that most of us have already seen the

1423
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:15,120
Speaker 1: different ways that Isaiah McKenzie has been utilized by Brian

1424
01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:19,800
Speaker 1: Dabele on offense. My concern for him though at this

1425
01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:25,160
Speaker 1: point is making the roster. Yeah, I don't think there's

1426
01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:29,200
Speaker 1: any question that if there's one element that the receiving

1427
01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:36,400
Speaker 1: corps isn't lacking its speed with Digs and Brown on

1428
01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:40,599
Speaker 1: the roster already. Now, McKenzie is probably faster than both

1429
01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:44,080
Speaker 1: of those guys, but obviously doesn't have the physical stature

1430
01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:48,080
Speaker 1: of them. And you know, he was a shot in

1431
01:21:48,120 --> 01:21:50,920
Speaker 1: the arm for this offense when they needed it most

1432
01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:53,439
Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen. If you recall, going back to like

1433
01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:57,400
Speaker 1: week eight, week eleven, in that Jets game, Barkley's starting

1434
01:21:57,840 --> 01:22:02,400
Speaker 1: and McKenzie and Robert Foster were activated, and they they

1435
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:05,160
Speaker 1: gave this offense a shot in the arm due mainly

1436
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:08,120
Speaker 1: to their pure speed that they were able to put

1437
01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:11,320
Speaker 1: on the field. And he's helped in some areas, you know,

1438
01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:13,840
Speaker 1: whether he's used as you know, that jet sweep guy,

1439
01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:18,000
Speaker 1: and in different ways, even on special teams. He's been

1440
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:22,160
Speaker 1: Andre Roberts back up as a returner. But man, this

1441
01:22:22,600 --> 01:22:25,760
Speaker 1: this wide receiver corps, Steve, I mean, it might be

1442
01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:28,360
Speaker 1: one of the most competitive positions at camp. After the

1443
01:22:28,439 --> 01:22:30,960
Speaker 1: top three, you're you're essentially gonna have it seven or

1444
01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:35,000
Speaker 1: eight guys battling for three spots. Yeah, and I say Mackenzie,

1445
01:22:35,080 --> 01:22:37,080
Speaker 1: while he has contributed, no question, in each of the

1446
01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:40,760
Speaker 1: years he's been been on the squad, he hasn't gotten

1447
01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:44,880
Speaker 1: a huge percentage of snaps. And it's not like it's

1448
01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:47,400
Speaker 1: a guy that they are absolutely depending on week to

1449
01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:49,400
Speaker 1: week to week. They like to sprinkle him in, give

1450
01:22:49,479 --> 01:22:51,840
Speaker 1: him a chance to maybe make something happen. But when

1451
01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:54,599
Speaker 1: you add into the mixed Gabriel Davis six two two

1452
01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:57,400
Speaker 1: ten and Isaiah Hodgins who's six three two oh one,

1453
01:22:58,439 --> 01:23:03,200
Speaker 1: some big bodied guys um that made Duke Williams and

1454
01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:09,519
Speaker 1: Duke Williams, they've got some guys that give them some

1455
01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:13,360
Speaker 1: variety in a way that nobody else does on the roster.

1456
01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:16,080
Speaker 1: So right, and it was clear to me that with

1457
01:23:16,280 --> 01:23:19,880
Speaker 1: the with the receivers they drafted this year, that they

1458
01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:23,680
Speaker 1: were going after something in particular that they feel will

1459
01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:27,200
Speaker 1: help Josh Allen. And that's catch radius. I mean, Davis

1460
01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:32,479
Speaker 1: and Hodgens enormous catch radius. And that is one thing

1461
01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:35,479
Speaker 1: that Mackenzie does not bring to the table. Right. Hodgens

1462
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:38,519
Speaker 1: is sixty three and Gabriel Davis is one of those

1463
01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:42,439
Speaker 1: guys that is uh presidential in his character. He's got

1464
01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:46,479
Speaker 1: great leadership. He's an intelligent guy. He's he's a guy

1465
01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:50,040
Speaker 1: that's got great character. The guys rally around. Uh, you know,

1466
01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:52,040
Speaker 1: he was you know, he didn't get to see a

1467
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:55,360
Speaker 1: lot of him when he was at UCF with route running.

1468
01:23:55,360 --> 01:23:56,880
Speaker 1: He was a little limited in what they asked him

1469
01:23:56,920 --> 01:23:59,200
Speaker 1: to do. But man oh man, off the field and

1470
01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:01,680
Speaker 1: in the meeting room, in the coach's rooms, they talk

1471
01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:03,519
Speaker 1: about this guy in a glowing term, so they got

1472
01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:05,519
Speaker 1: a little bit of that with him as well. All Right,

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01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:06,960
Speaker 1: we gotta take a break. Coming up at the top

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Speaker 1: of the hour, Lorenzo Alexander, former Bills linebacker, gonna come

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Speaker 1: on with us One Buffalo Bill's Radio, presented by Kalid

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Speaker 1: to Health. This is One Bills Live. I'll come back

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Speaker 1: to the five dea taster. Chris Brown h doing a

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Speaker 1: little online shopping during the break. Not really, but I

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Speaker 1: got a catalog egg. I've the I don't have very

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Speaker 1: many vices, Brownie, but man oh man, this pandemic, they've

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Speaker 1: become hobbies. Well, depending on how detrimental those vices are,

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Speaker 1: that could be an issue. I used to having the

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Speaker 1: occasional cigar when I played golf. Oh my gosh, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: you're you're over your quota. My nick name is Fidel. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: that's not good. What's your what's your preferred outcome for

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Speaker 1: the stadium naming rights here in Buffalo? Steve Tasher and

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown, we're taking your calls. We also have a

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Speaker 1: ton of feedback on the on the tweet sheet. Uh,

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Speaker 1: starting with Jason on this this tweet sheet. We have

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Speaker 1: this the second tweet sheet. We're plowing through these la bats.

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Speaker 1: Would be cool naming it after a beer that would

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Speaker 1: be fitting. That's from Jason. I guess so, I mean,

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Speaker 1: uh ta, yeah, exactly, exactly all the good stuff, I

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Speaker 1: get it. It could be well take your pick. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if there's you could get, like all the brewery.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's forty breweries and distilleries in Buffalo forty

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Speaker 1: Do you get all of them to combine? Throw a

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Speaker 1: few grand into it, you know, you come up with,

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Speaker 1: you know, the Western New York Brewery, distillers stadium. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: something like that. I don't you get all these groups together? Right? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: A little wordy, but I still think the leader in

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Speaker 1: the clubhouse is the Bill's Mafia. Ditting a go fund

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Speaker 1: meet page together, kick it up and everybody kick in

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Speaker 1: a few bucks and it's you know, Bill's Mafia Park

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Speaker 1: or that's what That's what Tim said here. I like

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Speaker 1: the idea of Mafia getting naming rights. I would donate,

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Speaker 1: even after moving to Floridas, still a huge Bills and

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Speaker 1: Sabers fan. Yeah, there's a huge amount of people who

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Speaker 1: have migrated away from Western New York who still obviously

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Speaker 1: have great ties to it. I'm actually hosting a Zoom

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Speaker 1: meeting tonight for some of those people. I've done a

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Speaker 1: couple of those where people who are far and away

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Speaker 1: from Buffalo they come back zooming. We give them a

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Speaker 1: quick round table and some fun stuff on an hour

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Speaker 1: long Twitter meeting, and and they get them interested and

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Speaker 1: keep them connected to the Western New York area. And

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Speaker 1: they do that through the internet. It's easy. But this

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Speaker 1: would be a great way for people to contribute and

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Speaker 1: get back into the naming rights for the for the

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Speaker 1: team they love so much, or one of the teams

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Speaker 1: they love so much. Right, It's a great idea, yea.

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Speaker 1: And then JR. Went with Tim Horton's field. Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: Hambleton Tiger Cats playing Tim Hortons Field in Hamilton, Ontario,

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Speaker 1: just north of the board. Yeah, CFL. So that, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's it's a nice joint. But I think that's already

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Speaker 1: been done. So I don't know if that I've certainly

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Speaker 1: got to be a trademark there or something, right, I

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Speaker 1: don't know, maybe not different country, maybe not all right.

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing from Russ, I can't call He

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Speaker 1: wanted to call in, but he couldn't. He says he

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Speaker 1: wanted to share his name submission. He goes Tesla Stadium.

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Speaker 1: There's stocks at an all time high. Brownie, they've got

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Speaker 1: the cash. Tesla Stadium. We could be the first stadium

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Speaker 1: to run completely on renewable energy and it would come

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Speaker 1: with a gimme tagline, this place is electric. Oh, Russ,

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Speaker 1: the marketing genius, Tesla Stadium. There you go. It's a

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Speaker 1: great idea. And there's a little bit of history tied

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Speaker 1: to that, um, because I know Nikola Tesla was you know,

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Speaker 1: part of the part of the effort that was working

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Speaker 1: with the harnessing the power of Niagara Falls. Right. Uh,

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Speaker 1: there's actually a monument there, uh, dedicated to Nikola Tesla. So, um,

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Speaker 1: you could even tie that in in some way, shape

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Speaker 1: or form, although Elon Musk might have something else to

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Speaker 1: say about that. Yeah, right, and it's you know, there's

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Speaker 1: a ton of them going in and it h that's

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Speaker 1: a great idea. That's and that's a company that is

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Speaker 1: has a facility here. Um, you know that. You know,

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Speaker 1: you gotta know it's on their radar too. Elon Musk

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Speaker 1: would be he's just the kind of person that would saying, oh,

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Speaker 1: what's that? Let me let me give you that A

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Speaker 1: you know he was thinking about even if it's only

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Speaker 1: for a half second. He would say, And you know

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Speaker 1: he I don't know, I don't know him from Adam,

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Speaker 1: but he seems to me like the guy who would

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Speaker 1: give you a snap thumbs up, thumbs down. Right, there

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be any jaundling, right exactly exactly. So, seeing as

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Speaker 1: how we haven't heard from him yet, it might not happen,

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Speaker 1: but I would that to me is a that's a

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Speaker 1: good one. I hadn't thought about that. Why not think

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Speaker 1: big like that? Right, it's perfect. It's at the right time,

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Speaker 1: at the right moment um. Like I said, there's I

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Speaker 1: just I don't know where I heard it, but there

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Speaker 1: stock was like a fifteen Hundo a piece their stock

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Speaker 1: price at a fifteen hundred dollars to share like yesterday. Man,

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Speaker 1: oh man, you talk about a guy that's riding the wave.

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Speaker 1: That's that might work, That might work? You got Do

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Speaker 1: you have Elon Musk's cell number? Not in my context,

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Speaker 1: not in your context? Will probably you know, I will

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Speaker 1: make I'll ask a few people. I'll bet you we

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Speaker 1: could find it. What do you think? Maybe, yeah, maybe

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Speaker 1: let me know how to do with that. That number

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Speaker 1: my number pops up on his phone, it gets blocked immediately,

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Speaker 1: although he might recognize it as a seven one six number, right, okay,

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Speaker 1: seven one sixth day here on one Bills Live, you

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Speaker 1: can chime in and call us what's your preferred outcome

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Speaker 1: for the stadium naming rights. You can give us a

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Speaker 1: call a day three five fifty or one eight eight

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Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty or at one bills Live

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Speaker 1: us on Twitter, Brawny a lot going on. Lorenzo's coming

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Speaker 1: up at the top of the hour. Just after the

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Speaker 1: break here and after the update, we have Lorenzo Alexander

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Speaker 1: on with us asking him he's wired in with the NFLPA.

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Speaker 1: Maybe we can get it straight from the horse's mouth

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Speaker 1: about what the real sticking points are. Sometimes, Um, Lorenzo

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Speaker 1: can surprise us with what we think the players would

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Speaker 1: want and what they actually want, So we'll ask him

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Speaker 1: that right after the break. Steve Tasker Chris Brown, One

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Speaker 1: Bills Live presented by Kalida Health on Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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Speaker 1: Oh a great tackle by Steve Tasks Dos Doe text

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Speaker 1: are Welcome back to One Bill's Live. Steve Tasker, Chris Brown.

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Speaker 1: We're asking you what's your preferred come to the Bills

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Speaker 1: naming rights of the stadium. What would you like to

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Speaker 1: see happening, what would you like to see it be named?

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Speaker 1: And what's the scenario. We'd like to take a break

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Speaker 1: from that question right now. Those we got on the

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Speaker 1: line former Buffalo Bills linebacker, two time Pro Bowler and

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Speaker 1: current nfl PA Vice President Lorenzo Alexander Lorenzo. Great to

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Speaker 1: talk to you man, Thanks for joining us. We hope

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Speaker 1: all as well. How's the family doing during the pandemic

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Speaker 1: and particularly now that you're in Arizona. Yeah, everybody's doing well.

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Speaker 1: Apprehit you having me on, Steve. Good see you Chris

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Speaker 1: and obviously Jay in the background. Nobody don't hear his

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Speaker 1: voice ever, But good to see you guys faces at

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Speaker 1: least over Scott. But we're doing well out here in Arizona. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: it's been a long haul with the kids been out

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Speaker 1: of school and trying to come up with different routines

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Speaker 1: to make the time go by. And I'm also make

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Speaker 1: it productive, you know, from the school anth to outside time.

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Speaker 1: And so I can tell you that my kids, especially

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Speaker 1: my daughter, has been upset with me as hard as

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Speaker 1: I've been pushing them in Pe. That's where I find

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Speaker 1: my my groove at his pe. So we've been having

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Speaker 1: a lot of fun doing that. I've been reading a

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Speaker 1: lot and learning how to play the piano. Well, we're

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Speaker 1: sitting there. We're kind of in the same boat here, Lorenzo.

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Speaker 1: Today I came back, I thought it was Wednesday, and uh,

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Speaker 1: for the first time, seriously, seriously thought today was Wednesday

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Speaker 1: and I and I've been living under that impression for

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Speaker 1: the last twelve hours until I got in and Brownie

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Speaker 1: reminded me that it's Thursday, seven, one sixth day. By

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Speaker 1: the way, Lorenzo, U, so don't forget about that way,

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Speaker 1: give us this Your Arizona is a hotspot now for COVID.

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Speaker 1: I mean we're hearing about it here in New York.

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Speaker 1: We went through that, you know, six eight twelve weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: What's it like for the people out there? Well, I'll

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Speaker 1: say that fortunately for the for the people and within

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Speaker 1: my group is fear that I know having been directly

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Speaker 1: impacted by it. You know, like my mom's out here.

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Speaker 1: She's a little bit older, she has some pre existing conditions,

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Speaker 1: and she's doing well, as well as some other family

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Speaker 1: members that kind of falling that in that group. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: it's unfortunate, um that are you know, it is what

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Speaker 1: it is. We kind of opened up too soon. People

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Speaker 1: kind of got back too fast and wasn't doing the

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Speaker 1: proper managers to protect themselves. And so now we're spiking

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Speaker 1: and and our hospitals are doing the best they can

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Speaker 1: to keep up with it. But this is something that

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Speaker 1: we're going to continue have to fight and be mindful of,

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Speaker 1: you know, just as Americans, as we continue to try

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Speaker 1: to figure out a way to balance living but also

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Speaker 1: protecting ourselves and taking mitigated risk and not going out

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Speaker 1: there just trying to live our life just because we

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01:33:28,320 --> 01:33:31,080
Speaker 1: have the right too, but also realizing that our actions

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Speaker 1: impact other people around us, and so just you know,

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Speaker 1: encourage people to continue to be mindful of that wearing

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Speaker 1: your mask, washing hands, don't do stuff that is just

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01:33:39,600 --> 01:33:43,160
Speaker 1: you know, disrespectful and ignorant of people's face, and just

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Speaker 1: trying to do as best we can. Nobody is not

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Speaker 1: an ideals. Nobody's faults. It obviously have to now we

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Speaker 1: have to get through it together collectively moving in one direction,

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Speaker 1: and hopefully we can continue to get help from our

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Speaker 1: leadership as well as our community members as far as

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Speaker 1: trying to move in the right direction. You know, with

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Speaker 1: the league, I know you know you've been heavily involved

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Speaker 1: with the negotiations in terms of the NFLPA in the league,

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Speaker 1: trying to get things ironed out so training camp can

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Speaker 1: happen in some way, shape or form amidst the pandemic.

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Speaker 1: Just what are your personal thoughts about how the cross

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Speaker 1: communication has gone to this point. Has it been as

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Speaker 1: collaborative as possible? Obviously there's sticking points in any negotiation,

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Speaker 1: but you know, has it been amicable? I guess for

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Speaker 1: the most part. I think for the most point, I

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Speaker 1: think we got to look at it really under two lenses,

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Speaker 1: And I'll start with this, thank god our CBA has

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Speaker 1: done because I think, you know, much like the MLB

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Speaker 1: would be a lot more aggressive or contentious as far

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Speaker 1: as posturing and all that stuff for stuff that was

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Speaker 1: going to change within that document itself, and so glad

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Speaker 1: we have that. And I think because of that, at

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Speaker 1: least from a health and safety standpoint, I think we're

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Speaker 1: much more in lined as far as developing protocols, practical

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Speaker 1: protocols that will help keep our men as safe as possible,

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Speaker 1: not only the players, but the staff that are going

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Speaker 1: to be in the building, from coaches, the physical therapists,

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Speaker 1: to equipment to support a staff, as well as when

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Speaker 1: we travel. I think we're we're closer on those terms

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Speaker 1: because both we're all following the science and the experts,

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Speaker 1: right because we don't really have a dog in the

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Speaker 1: fight outside of we want to everybody to stay healthy,

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Speaker 1: everybody's family stay healthy, and we want to come back

1681
01:35:26,680 --> 01:35:28,559
Speaker 1: to work and stay back to work. So it's much

1682
01:35:28,640 --> 01:35:33,800
Speaker 1: easier to kind of work through those issues and disagreements,

1683
01:35:33,840 --> 01:35:36,240
Speaker 1: you know, whether it's preseason games or amount of testing,

1684
01:35:36,680 --> 01:35:38,080
Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, we can just

1685
01:35:38,200 --> 01:35:40,960
Speaker 1: point to the science, which is unbiased, and say let's

1686
01:35:41,000 --> 01:35:44,600
Speaker 1: fall in line when it comes to go ahead, go ahead. No,

1687
01:35:44,720 --> 01:35:46,840
Speaker 1: it's just gonna say we're talking. We're into Alexander former

1688
01:35:46,840 --> 01:35:51,639
Speaker 1: Bill's linebacker, NFL VA NFLPA vice president. And that's the question.

1689
01:35:52,120 --> 01:35:55,080
Speaker 1: How safe can they make it? And where the balances

1690
01:35:55,120 --> 01:35:57,200
Speaker 1: because and I asked you this right before we came on,

1691
01:35:58,080 --> 01:36:00,280
Speaker 1: how likely is it to a ton of guy will

1692
01:36:00,360 --> 01:36:03,160
Speaker 1: opt out? I kind of have a hard time feeling it,

1693
01:36:03,280 --> 01:36:06,120
Speaker 1: you know, because most guys feel bulletproof. You know, you're

1694
01:36:06,160 --> 01:36:07,559
Speaker 1: in shape, you're ready to go, and you can kind

1695
01:36:07,560 --> 01:36:10,000
Speaker 1: of shake it off. But there are guys who have

1696
01:36:10,240 --> 01:36:12,080
Speaker 1: some concerns that don't have any to do with them,

1697
01:36:12,640 --> 01:36:15,000
Speaker 1: right Yeah. So I mean it's it's because we have

1698
01:36:15,200 --> 01:36:18,000
Speaker 1: two thousand players, you're gonna get a wide spectrum of opinions,

1699
01:36:18,080 --> 01:36:20,800
Speaker 1: just like you have in our communities. Right. So, you're

1700
01:36:20,800 --> 01:36:24,400
Speaker 1: gonna have people that are financially stable and maybe not

1701
01:36:24,479 --> 01:36:26,280
Speaker 1: even want to put the risk at their family because

1702
01:36:26,280 --> 01:36:29,120
Speaker 1: they don't need to, but they're also still comfortable at home.

1703
01:36:29,439 --> 01:36:31,519
Speaker 1: You have other guys that may not want to or

1704
01:36:31,560 --> 01:36:34,240
Speaker 1: feel the need they have to because of the stresses

1705
01:36:34,360 --> 01:36:37,519
Speaker 1: of the financial ramifications that I have for them families

1706
01:36:37,560 --> 01:36:41,080
Speaker 1: and also their dependence, and we all know athletes, you know,

1707
01:36:41,439 --> 01:36:44,000
Speaker 1: taking care of players, taking care of siblings. There's other

1708
01:36:44,080 --> 01:36:46,680
Speaker 1: stresses outside this your immediate family. And then we're going

1709
01:36:46,760 --> 01:36:49,800
Speaker 1: to have guys that actually have presisting conditions, and under

1710
01:36:49,840 --> 01:36:53,040
Speaker 1: the CDC guidelines, there's a high precentage of gods because

1711
01:36:53,080 --> 01:36:55,200
Speaker 1: BMI is one of those things, like for technically, I

1712
01:36:55,280 --> 01:36:57,639
Speaker 1: would be at risk because I have a high BMI

1713
01:36:58,280 --> 01:37:02,960
Speaker 1: And so you have guys alone aspect from from different

1714
01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:05,160
Speaker 1: diseases they may have, may be diabetic. I know Patty

1715
01:37:05,240 --> 01:37:08,639
Speaker 1: Peterson's diabetic, He's talked about it. So you have guys

1716
01:37:08,680 --> 01:37:10,679
Speaker 1: like that in our league that would be affected different ways,

1717
01:37:10,680 --> 01:37:13,479
Speaker 1: and so trying to come up with groupings that where

1718
01:37:13,520 --> 01:37:16,080
Speaker 1: different guys can opt out based on their situation, it's

1719
01:37:16,080 --> 01:37:19,720
Speaker 1: always a struggle because you're trying to find something that's

1720
01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:23,000
Speaker 1: going to be a broad stroke that impacts most people

1721
01:37:23,640 --> 01:37:26,040
Speaker 1: the best way, or come up with different subsets and

1722
01:37:26,520 --> 01:37:29,840
Speaker 1: oh when you but when you're trying to negotiate that,

1723
01:37:30,360 --> 01:37:33,519
Speaker 1: it's oftentimes hard because on the league side, they're trying

1724
01:37:33,560 --> 01:37:37,400
Speaker 1: to protect themselves from liability because nobody really knows the

1725
01:37:37,560 --> 01:37:40,439
Speaker 1: impact of this virus. You know, five ten years from

1726
01:37:40,479 --> 01:37:42,360
Speaker 1: now and what that means for you if you had

1727
01:37:42,400 --> 01:37:45,040
Speaker 1: a prison's the condition and you put yourself in harm's

1728
01:37:45,080 --> 01:37:46,920
Speaker 1: way of it because you decide to go to work.

1729
01:37:47,360 --> 01:37:49,040
Speaker 1: You know, from a league's perpective, like we don't want

1730
01:37:49,040 --> 01:37:51,080
Speaker 1: to we don't want to touch it's a non football entry.

1731
01:37:51,160 --> 01:37:53,719
Speaker 1: But as players, I'm coming to work and I potentially

1732
01:37:54,040 --> 01:37:56,360
Speaker 1: can't contract it at work by putting them out myself

1733
01:37:56,920 --> 01:38:00,160
Speaker 1: in a football environment. So those are always as the

1734
01:38:00,160 --> 01:38:01,920
Speaker 1: struggle of going back and forth and just trying to

1735
01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:03,600
Speaker 1: make sure that our guys at the end of the

1736
01:38:03,720 --> 01:38:07,519
Speaker 1: day are protected the best way they can when they

1737
01:38:07,640 --> 01:38:09,960
Speaker 1: show up to work, just like every other American should

1738
01:38:09,960 --> 01:38:12,240
Speaker 1: be when when they expect they're employed to provide a

1739
01:38:12,280 --> 01:38:15,800
Speaker 1: safe working condition. Yeah, we talked to Daniel Kaplan, a

1740
01:38:15,840 --> 01:38:19,960
Speaker 1: sports business reporter, last hour, and it's his belief that

1741
01:38:21,040 --> 01:38:23,680
Speaker 1: eventually we're going to get to a point where the

1742
01:38:23,840 --> 01:38:27,439
Speaker 1: league probably says, you know what, let's just say the

1743
01:38:27,520 --> 01:38:30,320
Speaker 1: heck with the preseason, let's limit travel for at least

1744
01:38:30,400 --> 01:38:33,080
Speaker 1: this period of time while players are getting back up

1745
01:38:33,160 --> 01:38:38,320
Speaker 1: to speed. Knowing the time constraints that are involved here,

1746
01:38:38,400 --> 01:38:42,040
Speaker 1: Lorenzo and the hurdles that still have to be cleared

1747
01:38:42,080 --> 01:38:45,800
Speaker 1: by both sides working together. Do you think no preseason

1748
01:38:45,880 --> 01:38:50,000
Speaker 1: actually helps buy some more time in some way, shape

1749
01:38:50,080 --> 01:38:52,080
Speaker 1: or form. I mean, you still want to report. It's

1750
01:38:52,120 --> 01:38:54,160
Speaker 1: clear that the league still wants to keep the season

1751
01:38:54,240 --> 01:38:57,000
Speaker 1: on schedule, but if you don't have preseason games, at

1752
01:38:57,080 --> 01:39:00,680
Speaker 1: least that gives you guys the elements of or the

1753
01:39:00,800 --> 01:39:03,679
Speaker 1: time element to talk a little bit more and maybe

1754
01:39:03,760 --> 01:39:05,640
Speaker 1: iron out some things that may not have to be

1755
01:39:05,760 --> 01:39:08,760
Speaker 1: buttoned up the first day of camp. Yeah, I think

1756
01:39:08,760 --> 01:39:10,559
Speaker 1: it definitely it helps us out. I mean, I think

1757
01:39:10,640 --> 01:39:14,640
Speaker 1: from the biggest standpoint, because guys sometimes been working out,

1758
01:39:14,680 --> 01:39:16,759
Speaker 1: but for the most part, even gyms are closed unlike

1759
01:39:16,760 --> 01:39:20,599
Speaker 1: the twenty eleven lockout, so you have to assume most

1760
01:39:20,680 --> 01:39:22,920
Speaker 1: guys can't come back, and so we talk about player

1761
01:39:22,920 --> 01:39:25,080
Speaker 1: of health and safety from the virus. But from the

1762
01:39:25,120 --> 01:39:28,840
Speaker 1: standpoint of just being football ready conditioned, I think it's

1763
01:39:28,920 --> 01:39:31,120
Speaker 1: in the best interest just from that point to not

1764
01:39:31,280 --> 01:39:33,559
Speaker 1: have games as there is too as soon, because that's

1765
01:39:33,600 --> 01:39:36,080
Speaker 1: when you're going to see the injuries guy's going ir

1766
01:39:36,520 --> 01:39:39,000
Speaker 1: and then from a team perspective, they may not want

1767
01:39:39,040 --> 01:39:40,960
Speaker 1: to be liable for that. So there's no really no

1768
01:39:41,120 --> 01:39:44,040
Speaker 1: reason for various for various reasons, but out to have

1769
01:39:45,080 --> 01:39:48,280
Speaker 1: preseason games just to make sure that guys are ready

1770
01:39:48,320 --> 01:39:51,000
Speaker 1: to play football. The virus as well as some of

1771
01:39:51,080 --> 01:39:53,040
Speaker 1: the other things that we can kind of iron out

1772
01:39:53,680 --> 01:39:57,360
Speaker 1: that getting hurt or injured or maybe contracting as the

1773
01:39:57,760 --> 01:40:01,599
Speaker 1: virus while traveling may create a lot of gray area

1774
01:40:01,640 --> 01:40:05,479
Speaker 1: and interpretation because we haven't figured out that specific detail yet.

1775
01:40:05,560 --> 01:40:08,240
Speaker 1: So who definitely agree with you. By pushing a lot

1776
01:40:08,240 --> 01:40:09,880
Speaker 1: of that stuff back, we can minimize some of the

1777
01:40:09,920 --> 01:40:11,920
Speaker 1: additional things that we might even be thinking about or

1778
01:40:12,000 --> 01:40:17,960
Speaker 1: agreed upon quite yet. Steve, are you on mute again?

1779
01:40:20,920 --> 01:40:26,320
Speaker 1: What is the likelihood that I'm telling you, Lorenzo laughing,

1780
01:40:26,400 --> 01:40:28,760
Speaker 1: I gotta get I gotta get like some kind of

1781
01:40:28,880 --> 01:40:32,240
Speaker 1: device in Steve's room that just undoes the mute button

1782
01:40:32,320 --> 01:40:34,679
Speaker 1: for him. Yeah, I mean think you think the producer

1783
01:40:34,680 --> 01:40:37,559
Speaker 1: would be able to do it? From his thought, I'm

1784
01:40:37,600 --> 01:40:41,800
Speaker 1: the ultimate og right now. I'm over here expounding on

1785
01:40:41,840 --> 01:40:43,800
Speaker 1: all these life points and you guys, are you know,

1786
01:40:43,960 --> 01:40:47,040
Speaker 1: too busy to listen to me? Okay, listen, what what's

1787
01:40:47,040 --> 01:40:49,360
Speaker 1: your what's your gut feeling about what training camp is

1788
01:40:49,400 --> 01:40:51,280
Speaker 1: gonna look like? Brownie and I and some people within

1789
01:40:51,320 --> 01:40:53,200
Speaker 1: the bills where we've we've seen pictures of what the

1790
01:40:53,240 --> 01:40:56,519
Speaker 1: facility looks like. Now they've got fifty chairs spread out

1791
01:40:56,560 --> 01:40:58,720
Speaker 1: over a fifty yard field. Everything's spread out. It looks

1792
01:40:58,760 --> 01:41:03,080
Speaker 1: like a huge, huge field with scared chairs scattered about,

1793
01:41:03,280 --> 01:41:10,080
Speaker 1: you know, screens. It's gonna be a completely different environment

1794
01:41:10,120 --> 01:41:12,600
Speaker 1: than anything we've ever seen before. Yeah, it's gonna be

1795
01:41:12,680 --> 01:41:16,080
Speaker 1: really unorthodox in allowing different ways because even some of

1796
01:41:16,120 --> 01:41:19,600
Speaker 1: the protocols trying to be implemented, you know, having a

1797
01:41:19,720 --> 01:41:22,320
Speaker 1: ramp up here, we have ten twenty thirty forty guys

1798
01:41:22,520 --> 01:41:25,360
Speaker 1: kind of ramping up during that time, working out exchange

1799
01:41:25,360 --> 01:41:27,880
Speaker 1: your in and out. You know what is nine on seven,

1800
01:41:28,000 --> 01:41:30,519
Speaker 1: eleven eleven look like? Can we do that? Do we want?

1801
01:41:30,600 --> 01:41:33,840
Speaker 1: Does that increase make the risk too great? Even like

1802
01:41:34,000 --> 01:41:36,559
Speaker 1: the meeting rooms like you're talking about, like everybody doesn't

1803
01:41:36,600 --> 01:41:39,000
Speaker 1: have a bubble, So if you're in a cold weather city,

1804
01:41:39,040 --> 01:41:41,400
Speaker 1: you might have to go home and do zoom conferences

1805
01:41:42,680 --> 01:41:46,560
Speaker 1: so that you are in a space that is and

1806
01:41:48,080 --> 01:41:50,760
Speaker 1: that falls in line with the protocols, because you don't

1807
01:41:50,800 --> 01:41:53,040
Speaker 1: want a group of guys in a small meeting room

1808
01:41:53,560 --> 01:41:55,680
Speaker 1: um necessarily breathing on each other for a couple of

1809
01:41:55,760 --> 01:41:59,040
Speaker 1: hours after practice, before practice, maybe spreading the disease. If

1810
01:41:59,120 --> 01:42:01,880
Speaker 1: if you a stomat and so, it's gonna look completely different.

1811
01:42:01,920 --> 01:42:03,720
Speaker 1: It's gonna be completely unknow if the dots and so

1812
01:42:03,800 --> 01:42:06,880
Speaker 1: for football coaches, gms and even some of you know,

1813
01:42:06,960 --> 01:42:09,400
Speaker 1: the old school football players are gonna have to be

1814
01:42:10,360 --> 01:42:13,400
Speaker 1: flexible and kind of let's be into this virus and

1815
01:42:13,520 --> 01:42:16,040
Speaker 1: make the best of the situation, because it's not going

1816
01:42:16,120 --> 01:42:19,320
Speaker 1: to be ideal. It's not going to be perfect in

1817
01:42:19,360 --> 01:42:21,120
Speaker 1: any way because this is the first time we've ever

1818
01:42:21,200 --> 01:42:23,160
Speaker 1: done it. But I think at the end of the day,

1819
01:42:23,160 --> 01:42:26,720
Speaker 1: if we can focus on mitigating the virus spread and

1820
01:42:26,840 --> 01:42:29,160
Speaker 1: focusing on the health and safety, guys can eventually get

1821
01:42:29,200 --> 01:42:31,840
Speaker 1: out there and play and do what they love and

1822
01:42:31,920 --> 01:42:38,200
Speaker 1: I think still produce a pretty good game on Sundays. Again,

1823
01:42:38,320 --> 01:42:41,759
Speaker 1: I know time constraints may not make this even remotely

1824
01:42:41,920 --> 01:42:46,760
Speaker 1: realistic from a logistical standpoint, Lorenzo, but I was just

1825
01:42:47,160 --> 01:42:49,679
Speaker 1: taking it one step further after we talked to Daniel

1826
01:42:49,760 --> 01:42:52,600
Speaker 1: Kaplan last hour when he was telling us, you know,

1827
01:42:52,800 --> 01:42:56,400
Speaker 1: his best guess is that the preseason will eventually be scrapped.

1828
01:42:56,439 --> 01:43:00,240
Speaker 1: In the event that that happens, I'm just thinking out

1829
01:43:00,280 --> 01:43:04,240
Speaker 1: loud here and again throwing logistics aside. If you're not

1830
01:43:04,360 --> 01:43:07,040
Speaker 1: gonna have players travel for the better part of a month,

1831
01:43:08,600 --> 01:43:11,320
Speaker 1: why not try to set up thirty two bubbles and

1832
01:43:11,840 --> 01:43:14,080
Speaker 1: make it that much safer as you ramp up to

1833
01:43:14,160 --> 01:43:17,560
Speaker 1: the regular season. But logistically, I'm thinking that may not

1834
01:43:17,680 --> 01:43:20,000
Speaker 1: be possible this late in the game, but it would

1835
01:43:20,000 --> 01:43:22,200
Speaker 1: seem to me that that that would have some merit

1836
01:43:23,320 --> 01:43:26,280
Speaker 1: if you're not having the players travel, right, I mean,

1837
01:43:26,400 --> 01:43:28,759
Speaker 1: essentially that's what most teams would do in a traditional

1838
01:43:28,840 --> 01:43:31,559
Speaker 1: training camp anyway, Right, Yeah, have like this place where

1839
01:43:31,560 --> 01:43:33,360
Speaker 1: you go to and it's essentially a bubble, and you

1840
01:43:33,400 --> 01:43:36,280
Speaker 1: could probably put some protocols in place, but at some

1841
01:43:36,400 --> 01:43:38,000
Speaker 1: point you gotta come out of it. And so I

1842
01:43:38,040 --> 01:43:40,280
Speaker 1: guess for the month that we're not playing is good.

1843
01:43:40,800 --> 01:43:42,439
Speaker 1: I think the biggest issue is going to be when

1844
01:43:42,439 --> 01:43:44,640
Speaker 1: we get when we're traveling, being in front of each other,

1845
01:43:44,760 --> 01:43:47,040
Speaker 1: being with each other. It is going to be hard,

1846
01:43:47,280 --> 01:43:50,680
Speaker 1: and it's it's it's hard to create a bubble for

1847
01:43:50,800 --> 01:43:53,400
Speaker 1: a month and then you come out of it, and

1848
01:43:53,520 --> 01:43:56,280
Speaker 1: then so is there a real point to that just

1849
01:43:56,439 --> 01:43:59,840
Speaker 1: for the preseason to have a bubble? You know? For me,

1850
01:44:00,000 --> 01:44:02,000
Speaker 1: I would see Okay, how do these protocols? How are

1851
01:44:02,000 --> 01:44:04,719
Speaker 1: we going to apply them? So I'd rather stuff maybe

1852
01:44:04,760 --> 01:44:08,200
Speaker 1: come up in a controlled environment of training camp, knowing

1853
01:44:08,200 --> 01:44:10,000
Speaker 1: that you're not going to travel. A guy has a

1854
01:44:10,040 --> 01:44:13,280
Speaker 1: positive test, this is what we do, and try to

1855
01:44:13,360 --> 01:44:15,439
Speaker 1: work that way out versus having a true bubble like

1856
01:44:15,520 --> 01:44:17,960
Speaker 1: the NBA, because the season won't be set up like that,

1857
01:44:18,080 --> 01:44:20,439
Speaker 1: and so you want to at least have some practical

1858
01:44:20,479 --> 01:44:22,960
Speaker 1: application of what things did happen or things do come

1859
01:44:23,000 --> 01:44:26,519
Speaker 1: in place. That's a good points some experience this. We're

1860
01:44:26,600 --> 01:44:29,840
Speaker 1: tiring to former Bills linebacker Lorenzo Alexander, current NFL PA

1861
01:44:30,040 --> 01:44:33,000
Speaker 1: vice president. The Lorenzo, you played for some different teams

1862
01:44:33,040 --> 01:44:35,439
Speaker 1: while you were in the league. One of those was

1863
01:44:35,520 --> 01:44:39,439
Speaker 1: the Washington Redskins. Now they are no longer the Washington Redskins,

1864
01:44:39,479 --> 01:44:42,479
Speaker 1: And what were your thoughts back then surrounding the sentiment

1865
01:44:42,520 --> 01:44:45,000
Speaker 1: outside the organization? There were some pressure. They've been perceiving

1866
01:44:45,040 --> 01:44:46,720
Speaker 1: that for a long time, and finally they pulled the

1867
01:44:46,800 --> 01:44:49,439
Speaker 1: trigger and they are doing away with the logo and

1868
01:44:49,479 --> 01:44:51,400
Speaker 1: the nickname and everything. The only thing they're keeping in

1869
01:44:51,479 --> 01:44:54,040
Speaker 1: the colors. How does that make you feel? And what's

1870
01:44:54,600 --> 01:44:58,280
Speaker 1: your take on that big big picture, you know. I mean,

1871
01:44:58,320 --> 01:45:01,879
Speaker 1: I think in content that's what everything going on. Obviously

1872
01:45:03,000 --> 01:45:05,760
Speaker 1: the mascot name didn't didn't offend me, right, but I'm

1873
01:45:05,800 --> 01:45:08,080
Speaker 1: not a Native American. I know it was always been

1874
01:45:08,080 --> 01:45:10,920
Speaker 1: a point of contention, uh, during the time I played him,

1875
01:45:10,960 --> 01:45:13,519
Speaker 1: before I got there, and so we had a big

1876
01:45:13,560 --> 01:45:16,439
Speaker 1: reporter of Mike Wise that that was really kind of

1877
01:45:16,560 --> 01:45:18,760
Speaker 1: helping lead the way and trying to create much noise

1878
01:45:18,840 --> 01:45:21,439
Speaker 1: use in his platform while I was there. Um. And

1879
01:45:21,520 --> 01:45:24,040
Speaker 1: then obviously on the on the on the hills or

1880
01:45:24,080 --> 01:45:26,960
Speaker 1: really on with this wave that was sparked from a

1881
01:45:27,000 --> 01:45:29,120
Speaker 1: George Floyd killing, was able to get it changed by

1882
01:45:29,160 --> 01:45:33,200
Speaker 1: putting pressure on them economically, and so you know it

1883
01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:35,120
Speaker 1: needs to be changed. I mean, at the end of

1884
01:45:35,120 --> 01:45:36,920
Speaker 1: the day, I can't ask people to stand up for

1885
01:45:36,960 --> 01:45:38,880
Speaker 1: the black community and do things and look at them

1886
01:45:38,920 --> 01:45:41,400
Speaker 1: and look at the Native American community, and they're asking

1887
01:45:41,439 --> 01:45:43,280
Speaker 1: to do the same thing because the x y z

1888
01:45:44,160 --> 01:45:50,120
Speaker 1: UM because it offends up offends their community. UM, And

1889
01:45:50,200 --> 01:45:53,400
Speaker 1: I don't really care if it's one percent or fifty percent. UM.

1890
01:45:53,479 --> 01:45:55,680
Speaker 1: Out of respect, you should be able to change the name.

1891
01:45:55,680 --> 01:45:58,360
Speaker 1: And I think from a fan perspective, I think you

1892
01:45:58,479 --> 01:46:00,880
Speaker 1: get comfortable with what you know, right, we all get

1893
01:46:00,920 --> 01:46:03,200
Speaker 1: comfortable with what we know, and it's hard to change.

1894
01:46:03,240 --> 01:46:05,400
Speaker 1: And so I always try to look at from a

1895
01:46:05,520 --> 01:46:08,320
Speaker 1: great perspective or a better the good side, Like my

1896
01:46:08,720 --> 01:46:12,160
Speaker 1: time in DC wasn't charnished. My my Pro Bowl me

1897
01:46:12,320 --> 01:46:15,280
Speaker 1: coming up, my story was not charnished because I played

1898
01:46:15,400 --> 01:46:18,680
Speaker 1: under that that mascot's name. And I don't think any

1899
01:46:18,720 --> 01:46:20,759
Speaker 1: of the Super Bowls or any of your favorite players,

1900
01:46:20,800 --> 01:46:23,840
Speaker 1: from Joe Gifts to Daryl Green, to Art Monk to

1901
01:46:23,960 --> 01:46:26,200
Speaker 1: Brian Mitchell, none of those guys and none of those

1902
01:46:26,520 --> 01:46:29,720
Speaker 1: memories are tarnished. And so let's do the right thing.

1903
01:46:29,880 --> 01:46:32,760
Speaker 1: Let's be okay with making this transition to a new name,

1904
01:46:32,800 --> 01:46:36,000
Speaker 1: a new mascot, but understanding we still have a rich

1905
01:46:36,120 --> 01:46:38,439
Speaker 1: history that we're connected to with all these individuals and

1906
01:46:38,520 --> 01:46:41,679
Speaker 1: people and not necessarily the name, and so I would

1907
01:46:41,720 --> 01:46:43,400
Speaker 1: just urge people to look at it from that perspective.

1908
01:46:44,240 --> 01:46:46,160
Speaker 1: Change is hard, it always will be, and I think

1909
01:46:46,439 --> 01:46:49,599
Speaker 1: it's great that things are are moving in the right

1910
01:46:49,640 --> 01:46:52,360
Speaker 1: direction on so many levels, and so I'm looking forward

1911
01:46:52,360 --> 01:46:54,559
Speaker 1: to more things of changing this name of this culture.

1912
01:46:55,080 --> 01:46:57,920
Speaker 1: But it just shows you the power of the people

1913
01:46:58,000 --> 01:47:02,479
Speaker 1: and put an applying pressure on all corporations organizations, and

1914
01:47:02,600 --> 01:47:05,559
Speaker 1: over time, if you're steady and consistent, things will change.

1915
01:47:06,400 --> 01:47:10,280
Speaker 1: Especially we can get companies behind you like FedEx's, Nike, Target,

1916
01:47:10,400 --> 01:47:13,000
Speaker 1: Walmart and so. But none of that would have occurred

1917
01:47:13,000 --> 01:47:15,400
Speaker 1: if you didn't have people that had been beating the

1918
01:47:15,479 --> 01:47:18,560
Speaker 1: drum for years over this to making an issue and

1919
01:47:18,680 --> 01:47:21,080
Speaker 1: making people aware. And so when the time tanks were

1920
01:47:21,160 --> 01:47:25,120
Speaker 1: changed to have happened, it occurred. So I think we

1921
01:47:25,160 --> 01:47:27,360
Speaker 1: should take this as a model we continue to try

1922
01:47:27,400 --> 01:47:30,280
Speaker 1: to improve our country and improve different things in society

1923
01:47:30,640 --> 01:47:33,320
Speaker 1: and taking that a step further. Lorenzo, I know you

1924
01:47:33,439 --> 01:47:36,880
Speaker 1: recently wrote a piece for The Athletic where you kind

1925
01:47:36,920 --> 01:47:40,800
Speaker 1: of expressed how you realize what your purpose is now

1926
01:47:41,520 --> 01:47:44,040
Speaker 1: in the fight for racial justice. I mean, you were

1927
01:47:44,080 --> 01:47:48,040
Speaker 1: in Buffalo in twenty sixteen when Colin Kaepernick was, you know,

1928
01:47:48,160 --> 01:47:50,479
Speaker 1: doing his thing, and you know, we all remember the

1929
01:47:50,600 --> 01:47:53,360
Speaker 1: home game where you know a good number of you

1930
01:47:53,479 --> 01:47:57,080
Speaker 1: guys had had knelt for the anthem and it met

1931
01:47:57,120 --> 01:47:59,560
Speaker 1: with the Pagoulas before that game, right and let me

1932
01:48:00,000 --> 01:48:02,320
Speaker 1: and it wasn't you know, because we tied it to

1933
01:48:02,400 --> 01:48:04,559
Speaker 1: the anthem. I think that's just the time that guys

1934
01:48:05,200 --> 01:48:08,680
Speaker 1: decided to kneel. That's what Kaepernick decided to do to

1935
01:48:08,760 --> 01:48:11,360
Speaker 1: bring awareness of what he was doing. And so, you know,

1936
01:48:11,439 --> 01:48:13,080
Speaker 1: people have tied it to the anthem, but it's not

1937
01:48:13,120 --> 01:48:16,000
Speaker 1: about the anthem. It's about it the social inequalities. And

1938
01:48:16,439 --> 01:48:18,519
Speaker 1: just make it sure clear Christmas, when you say anthem,

1939
01:48:18,760 --> 01:48:20,559
Speaker 1: people are so I know you don't, but people are

1940
01:48:20,600 --> 01:48:23,519
Speaker 1: just naturally associated with all they were doing it. That's

1941
01:48:23,560 --> 01:48:25,720
Speaker 1: not what was about, right. I'm glad you jumped in

1942
01:48:25,840 --> 01:48:29,080
Speaker 1: on that. No, that's fine. Yah. My question to you, though,

1943
01:48:29,280 --> 01:48:33,880
Speaker 1: is what do you feel has changed with you and

1944
01:48:34,120 --> 01:48:41,320
Speaker 1: your perspective from perhaps twenty sixteen to now, which you

1945
01:48:41,400 --> 01:48:46,560
Speaker 1: know obviously George Floyd, Brianna Taylor and others. Uh, it

1946
01:48:46,760 --> 01:48:51,920
Speaker 1: just seemed to be more of a catalyst now than

1947
01:48:52,560 --> 01:48:57,240
Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick's efforts were then. So how did your perspective

1948
01:48:57,720 --> 01:49:00,760
Speaker 1: maybe change because you had a perspective that there's no

1949
01:49:00,840 --> 01:49:03,439
Speaker 1: way Steve, Steve and I could have we did not

1950
01:49:03,560 --> 01:49:06,400
Speaker 1: grow up African American in this country. So I'm really

1951
01:49:06,520 --> 01:49:09,400
Speaker 1: curious how your perspective has changed from twenty sixteen to

1952
01:49:09,560 --> 01:49:12,240
Speaker 1: now in later the events I would think vainly for

1953
01:49:12,320 --> 01:49:15,400
Speaker 1: me is it's expanded. It hasn't necessarily changed because I've

1954
01:49:15,439 --> 01:49:16,920
Speaker 1: always been one as long as it's a lot of

1955
01:49:16,960 --> 01:49:19,479
Speaker 1: guys on that team as well as you know that

1956
01:49:19,720 --> 01:49:23,480
Speaker 1: are heavily involved in the community, low income black communities,

1957
01:49:23,520 --> 01:49:25,960
Speaker 1: that are giving back, trying to provide resources, trying to

1958
01:49:26,040 --> 01:49:29,160
Speaker 1: provide constructure support to young people. You know, we talk

1959
01:49:29,200 --> 01:49:32,320
Speaker 1: about Tim Delaney working with those South Park High School kids,

1960
01:49:32,760 --> 01:49:35,720
Speaker 1: working with the Bell Center and Miss Lucy, and so

1961
01:49:35,960 --> 01:49:37,760
Speaker 1: we've always been engaged because that's one of the first

1962
01:49:37,760 --> 01:49:39,920
Speaker 1: thing you hear. While you guys don't care about the

1963
01:49:39,960 --> 01:49:42,240
Speaker 1: black community and the crime that happens, No, we've always

1964
01:49:42,280 --> 01:49:45,320
Speaker 1: paid attention to that and we've always been involved, heavily

1965
01:49:45,479 --> 01:49:48,120
Speaker 1: giving our money, given our time. I think it expanded

1966
01:49:48,160 --> 01:49:52,519
Speaker 1: in the sense of now let me talk truth to

1967
01:49:52,720 --> 01:49:56,320
Speaker 1: power those in authorities. And so even six twenty sixteen

1968
01:49:56,800 --> 01:50:00,560
Speaker 1: when we had those conversations, you know, our owner Kimpagoula

1969
01:50:00,600 --> 01:50:02,639
Speaker 1: has been more than gracious in allowing me to come

1970
01:50:03,040 --> 01:50:05,800
Speaker 1: call her, text her and give her perspective about how

1971
01:50:05,920 --> 01:50:08,960
Speaker 1: is a buff Bills community can we how can we

1972
01:50:09,040 --> 01:50:12,080
Speaker 1: do better? How can we create a more diverse workforce?

1973
01:50:12,360 --> 01:50:14,479
Speaker 1: And then with that, using my leverage of the NFL,

1974
01:50:15,640 --> 01:50:18,280
Speaker 1: going out making sure that I'm voting, making sure that

1975
01:50:18,320 --> 01:50:20,479
Speaker 1: I'm empowering other people to vote. I've hold it helps

1976
01:50:20,479 --> 01:50:25,040
Speaker 1: to community days to give people education about their voting rights,

1977
01:50:25,160 --> 01:50:29,200
Speaker 1: get registered, and then for me educating myself on the

1978
01:50:29,240 --> 01:50:31,760
Speaker 1: candidates because goes an ultimately our representatives that are going

1979
01:50:31,840 --> 01:50:33,600
Speaker 1: to do things. And I think for myself that was

1980
01:50:33,680 --> 01:50:37,120
Speaker 1: one of the areas where I didn't do the best

1981
01:50:37,200 --> 01:50:40,479
Speaker 1: that I could as far as trying to create change,

1982
01:50:40,520 --> 01:50:42,479
Speaker 1: and I mean in being involved in the process from

1983
01:50:42,520 --> 01:50:46,040
Speaker 1: day one with candidates kind of start running figuring out

1984
01:50:46,080 --> 01:50:49,160
Speaker 1: who these people are, trying to figure out who aligns

1985
01:50:49,200 --> 01:50:52,000
Speaker 1: with me, regardless if they're Democratic Republican, and seeing if

1986
01:50:52,000 --> 01:50:54,240
Speaker 1: they're going to truly represent the people in the best way,

1987
01:50:54,400 --> 01:50:56,400
Speaker 1: not necessarily it's best for me, but what's best for

1988
01:50:56,439 --> 01:50:59,679
Speaker 1: the community, and getting behind those people because oftentimes, even

1989
01:50:59,760 --> 01:51:02,519
Speaker 1: like we can see on the national level now, people

1990
01:51:02,560 --> 01:51:07,640
Speaker 1: are kind of Okay, we got two guys, and a

1991
01:51:07,680 --> 01:51:09,320
Speaker 1: lot of that is because we don't get involved, and

1992
01:51:09,360 --> 01:51:11,840
Speaker 1: so we're giving these candidates and so I think just

1993
01:51:11,920 --> 01:51:14,160
Speaker 1: being energized from the beginning to the end of the process,

1994
01:51:14,200 --> 01:51:16,760
Speaker 1: I think it is one of the biggest growth and

1995
01:51:17,040 --> 01:51:19,400
Speaker 1: growth in my perspectives and at least in my energy

1996
01:51:19,479 --> 01:51:22,160
Speaker 1: that I plan on doing kind of moving forward, starting

1997
01:51:22,160 --> 01:51:24,000
Speaker 1: now and moving forward. And that's just one area and

1998
01:51:24,080 --> 01:51:27,200
Speaker 1: one example. Lorenzo. Last thing I've got to ask you

1999
01:51:27,520 --> 01:51:31,280
Speaker 1: is that you were a solid leader when you were

2000
01:51:31,320 --> 01:51:33,599
Speaker 1: here in Buffalo. You had a wonderful stint here in Buffalo.

2001
01:51:33,640 --> 01:51:35,639
Speaker 1: I know it was only a one part of your career,

2002
01:51:36,479 --> 01:51:38,400
Speaker 1: but I noticed too that you remember Buffalo with a

2003
01:51:38,560 --> 01:51:41,160
Speaker 1: great deal of fondness of what you built, helped build here,

2004
01:51:41,240 --> 01:51:43,439
Speaker 1: bringing them out of the drought, seeing them to the

2005
01:51:43,520 --> 01:51:45,800
Speaker 1: playoffs a couple of times, and it has to be

2006
01:51:45,880 --> 01:51:47,599
Speaker 1: something that you're very proud of. And as you look

2007
01:51:47,640 --> 01:51:49,720
Speaker 1: back now on the team that you left and where

2008
01:51:49,760 --> 01:51:52,640
Speaker 1: it has evolved to personnel, who do you you know

2009
01:51:52,760 --> 01:51:56,519
Speaker 1: what about your who do you let what legacy did

2010
01:51:56,560 --> 01:51:58,719
Speaker 1: you leave and who do you really kind of place

2011
01:51:58,880 --> 01:52:01,800
Speaker 1: that legacy of leadership in the community, going out and

2012
01:52:01,840 --> 01:52:05,280
Speaker 1: getting involved and having a larger presence in the community

2013
01:52:05,280 --> 01:52:07,479
Speaker 1: than just being a football player. Look back on this

2014
01:52:07,640 --> 01:52:09,960
Speaker 1: roster now and who do you see that that are

2015
01:52:10,000 --> 01:52:12,320
Speaker 1: those type of guys? I know there's more than one. Yeah,

2016
01:52:12,320 --> 01:52:14,560
Speaker 1: there's I mean, there's a ton of guys, and I,

2017
01:52:14,800 --> 01:52:17,320
Speaker 1: you know, hopefully I impacted something. Maybe hopefully some people

2018
01:52:17,320 --> 01:52:19,839
Speaker 1: saw what I was doing and are encourage and inspired

2019
01:52:20,360 --> 01:52:22,160
Speaker 1: to kind of grow and get out of their comfort

2020
01:52:22,240 --> 01:52:24,320
Speaker 1: zone and maybe do a little bit more. But it's

2021
01:52:24,320 --> 01:52:25,720
Speaker 1: not like I had to do a whole bunch to

2022
01:52:25,800 --> 01:52:27,920
Speaker 1: get guys encouraged to do stuff. I mean, you talk

2023
01:52:27,960 --> 01:52:33,439
Speaker 1: about Jerry u, Mica Hyde, m Harrison Phillips, Jordan Point,

2024
01:52:33,439 --> 01:52:35,280
Speaker 1: I mean I shack Losson when he was there. Jordan.

2025
01:52:35,280 --> 01:52:38,280
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a ton of guys across the spectrum

2026
01:52:38,520 --> 01:52:40,760
Speaker 1: that are countless beyond Dawkins is another one that is

2027
01:52:40,760 --> 01:52:43,479
Speaker 1: out there every single Tuesday trying to find ways to

2028
01:52:43,600 --> 01:52:47,479
Speaker 1: use their platform, whether it's social media or their likeness

2029
01:52:48,000 --> 01:52:50,840
Speaker 1: to just to bring resources to certain communities and certain

2030
01:52:50,840 --> 01:52:53,920
Speaker 1: passions that they have in various ways. And so I

2031
01:52:54,000 --> 01:52:56,200
Speaker 1: can go on and on and hopefully they've learned and

2032
01:52:56,439 --> 01:52:59,040
Speaker 1: and and got some insight for me. And also I

2033
01:52:59,160 --> 01:53:01,320
Speaker 1: know they know that I'm here. It's not like I'm gone,

2034
01:53:01,320 --> 01:53:03,040
Speaker 1: and so any of those guys every even lean on me.

2035
01:53:03,240 --> 01:53:05,880
Speaker 1: I'll stay, have my relationships in the community and plan

2036
01:53:05,960 --> 01:53:09,920
Speaker 1: to still be very president in the Buffalo community. You know,

2037
01:53:10,040 --> 01:53:13,400
Speaker 1: working with obviously the Bills, working with the pal working

2038
01:53:13,479 --> 01:53:15,479
Speaker 1: with the Bill Center, as well as Tim Delaney and

2039
01:53:15,560 --> 01:53:19,280
Speaker 1: so much bore. So I'm gone, you know, from a team,

2040
01:53:19,320 --> 01:53:22,559
Speaker 1: but I'm not gone from the community. It's my second home. Lorenzo,

2041
01:53:22,640 --> 01:53:24,439
Speaker 1: thanks so much, man, it's great seeing you. I'm glad

2042
01:53:24,479 --> 01:53:27,439
Speaker 1: you guys are doing well, and anytime you come back,

2043
01:53:27,520 --> 01:53:30,840
Speaker 1: we'll have you on the show. Best wishes and once again,

2044
01:53:31,000 --> 01:53:33,320
Speaker 1: just great seeing you, bro. Yeah, I appreciate it. Good

2045
01:53:33,320 --> 01:53:35,920
Speaker 1: seeing you guys. Stay safe, stay healthy, and a God

2046
01:53:36,000 --> 01:53:38,599
Speaker 1: blessed look forward to catching up when I'm out there. Lorenzo.

2047
01:53:38,640 --> 01:53:42,479
Speaker 1: Alexander Savaler man Lorenzo Balo and stander, former Buffalo Bills linebacker,

2048
01:53:42,560 --> 01:53:45,960
Speaker 1: two time Pro bowler, current NFLPA Vice president joins us

2049
01:53:46,000 --> 01:53:47,920
Speaker 1: here on One Bill's Life. Thanks so much to him.

2050
01:53:47,960 --> 01:53:50,400
Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio, presented by Kalid to Health

2051
01:53:50,439 --> 01:53:57,479
Speaker 1: and this is One Bill's Life. Welcome back to One

2052
01:53:57,560 --> 01:53:59,840
Speaker 1: Bill's Lives, Chief Chasker along with Chris Brown, thanks for

2053
01:54:00,040 --> 01:54:02,200
Speaker 1: into Alexander for joining us the last half hour. We're

2054
01:54:02,240 --> 01:54:04,680
Speaker 1: asking you, our listeners, what is your preferred outcome to

2055
01:54:04,680 --> 01:54:07,960
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills stadium naming rights? Or deal that we're

2056
01:54:07,960 --> 01:54:11,480
Speaker 1: all going through. We have got a lot of feedback

2057
01:54:11,600 --> 01:54:13,439
Speaker 1: on the tweet sheet. The tweet sheet brought to you

2058
01:54:13,600 --> 01:54:17,800
Speaker 1: by Corgan Moving Systems, the official movers equipment movers of

2059
01:54:17,840 --> 01:54:21,720
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. We got a bunch of stuff. And

2060
01:54:22,240 --> 01:54:26,400
Speaker 1: the last one on the tweet sheet that I have, Brownie,

2061
01:54:26,600 --> 01:54:32,440
Speaker 1: is this from Bruce. It's very simple. Wegman's World. Did

2062
01:54:32,520 --> 01:54:38,720
Speaker 1: we do? Uh well, yeah, you could do that. Yeah,

2063
01:54:39,000 --> 01:54:43,480
Speaker 1: I mean, there you go. They're highly visible. It's a

2064
01:54:43,600 --> 01:54:46,480
Speaker 1: regional it's kind of a regional company. Great company, by

2065
01:54:46,520 --> 01:54:49,200
Speaker 1: the way, I mean, there's no doubt about it. But yeah,

2066
01:54:49,320 --> 01:54:53,040
Speaker 1: after a grocery sto, why not Hey, yeah, I think

2067
01:54:53,760 --> 01:54:56,840
Speaker 1: I don't think we did. Vince's though, who had a

2068
01:54:57,040 --> 01:55:03,080
Speaker 1: number of suggestions so well. Vince said, a local corporate

2069
01:55:03,120 --> 01:55:07,720
Speaker 1: sponsor would be nice, or a regional Northeast corporation. At

2070
01:55:07,760 --> 01:55:09,880
Speaker 1: being said, if no one meets the criteria, here's a

2071
01:55:09,920 --> 01:55:16,760
Speaker 1: couple of ideas. The Pagoula Ville Palladium McBean Field or

2072
01:55:16,960 --> 01:55:22,360
Speaker 1: Ralph Wilson Stadium McBean Field. That's a good one. Uh yeah.

2073
01:55:23,760 --> 01:55:26,879
Speaker 1: Ralph Wilson Stadium would be a you know, a return

2074
01:55:27,000 --> 01:55:29,440
Speaker 1: to what it was between nineteen ninety seven and two

2075
01:55:29,480 --> 01:55:35,560
Speaker 1: thousand and sixteen, I guess, and uh yeah, during my time,

2076
01:55:35,600 --> 01:55:37,720
Speaker 1: it was always rich Stadium and it was for twenty five,

2077
01:55:37,840 --> 01:55:41,640
Speaker 1: twenty six years, thirty years, whatever it was. So there's

2078
01:55:41,680 --> 01:55:44,520
Speaker 1: that as well. This would be the what this would

2079
01:55:44,560 --> 01:55:47,360
Speaker 1: be the upcoming fourth incarnation of what the new name

2080
01:55:47,440 --> 01:55:51,680
Speaker 1: would be. But I still like and we had this

2081
01:55:51,760 --> 01:55:53,600
Speaker 1: earlier on if in case you're just joining us, and

2082
01:55:53,680 --> 01:55:55,800
Speaker 1: one of the leading candidates for what would be a

2083
01:55:55,880 --> 01:55:58,200
Speaker 1: fun idea was if the Bill's Mafia gotta go fund

2084
01:55:58,280 --> 01:56:01,640
Speaker 1: me page going, brought the money together and called it

2085
01:56:01,760 --> 01:56:04,000
Speaker 1: and named it themselves, you know, the Bills Mafia would

2086
01:56:04,080 --> 01:56:06,000
Speaker 1: name it whatever they came up with. It could be

2087
01:56:06,120 --> 01:56:11,560
Speaker 1: Bills Mafia Park, uh or whatever. And uh, a lot

2088
01:56:11,600 --> 01:56:13,680
Speaker 1: of fun stuff that's that's come out of that as well.

2089
01:56:13,760 --> 01:56:18,760
Speaker 1: So you know, there's um, I don't know, it's just uh,

2090
01:56:19,120 --> 01:56:21,360
Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be interesting to see what happens. And

2091
01:56:21,560 --> 01:56:25,520
Speaker 1: in this marketplace where the pandemic going on, Uh, there's

2092
01:56:25,640 --> 01:56:28,680
Speaker 1: no question that the field of you know, suitors would

2093
01:56:28,720 --> 01:56:31,400
Speaker 1: be a little bit thinner than it normally is. And

2094
01:56:31,600 --> 01:56:35,240
Speaker 1: and most stadiums as we had, uh, Daniel kaplan On,

2095
01:56:35,560 --> 01:56:37,920
Speaker 1: a sports business reporter for The Athletic He said, listen,

2096
01:56:38,360 --> 01:56:42,760
Speaker 1: usually it's the stadium. It's these companies like American Airlines

2097
01:56:42,880 --> 01:56:45,960
Speaker 1: or US air or uh you know, well M ANDT

2098
01:56:46,120 --> 01:56:50,640
Speaker 1: Bank has the one in uh in Baltimore, uh, met Life.

2099
01:56:50,760 --> 01:56:55,800
Speaker 1: It's these financial institutions, these huge multinational conglomerate corporations that

2100
01:56:56,040 --> 01:56:58,440
Speaker 1: you know, have the the spare chain sitting around in

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Speaker 1: their pocket. To do that, you gotta airlines stepping up

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Speaker 1: to the plate. Now they are handing money exactly. I

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Speaker 1: mean there, it's a really tough industry right now. But

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Speaker 1: by the same token, if you're looking for a value

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Speaker 1: in your advertising dollar, this would be the year to beat.

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Speaker 1: Jump on board with the Buffalo Bills. Four nationally televised games.

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01:57:17,560 --> 01:57:20,280
Speaker 1: UM and good too much front a good team that

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Speaker 1: might make the playoffs and may have a good chance

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Speaker 1: of getting a home playoff game. Um, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of bit. There's little bit. There's a little bit in there.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's a little bit extra little in that

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Speaker 1: for you if you, if your company so desires. One

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Speaker 1: of the interesting ones we heard that was off the

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Speaker 1: off the board was tesla Um, a company like that

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Speaker 1: who is actually killing it in this climate, which is, yes,

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Speaker 1: tough to do. So that's kind of fun to think

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Speaker 1: about for Amazon or somebody like that. Yeah, all of

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Speaker 1: that stuff. I mean, it's it's fun to think about.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be interesting to see that come to fruition.

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Speaker 1: But let's get into We've got a couple of minutes

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Speaker 1: here to spare. Let's get into NFL true false. All right, Brownie,

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01:58:02,400 --> 01:58:08,240
Speaker 1: let's do it. That's right, seven one, six day edition.

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Speaker 1: True false. Brought to you by Yancey's Fantasy, New York's

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Speaker 1: Artisan Cheese. Here we go. NFL True false Number one.

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01:58:15,000 --> 01:58:17,120
Speaker 1: If you're offered a Pro Bowl player but that player

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01:58:17,160 --> 01:58:20,839
Speaker 1: doesn't fit into your system, you need to change your system.

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Speaker 1: True or false. Okay, now, Steve, here's a situation where

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01:58:26,440 --> 01:58:29,080
Speaker 1: I don't think this is a clear cut yea or nay.

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01:58:29,160 --> 01:58:32,800
Speaker 1: And the reason why is, I think a lot of

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01:58:32,920 --> 01:58:37,400
Speaker 1: times it depends on where you are in your construction

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01:58:37,520 --> 01:58:41,680
Speaker 1: or your team timeline wise. You know, if you're it's

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01:58:41,720 --> 01:58:45,680
Speaker 1: not just about the system, right if you're if you're

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01:58:45,720 --> 01:58:51,840
Speaker 1: a four and twelve team, one Pro Bowl player isn't

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01:58:52,160 --> 01:58:55,200
Speaker 1: getting you over the hump anyway. So I don't know

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01:58:55,320 --> 01:58:58,920
Speaker 1: if I'm parting with assets that might better help me

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01:58:59,040 --> 01:59:01,960
Speaker 1: construct the team, you know, draft choices or what have you,

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01:59:02,680 --> 01:59:05,000
Speaker 1: just to acquire a Pro Bowl player in the first place.

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01:59:05,080 --> 01:59:09,360
Speaker 1: But I'll play along, okay, But I think if you

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01:59:09,440 --> 01:59:13,800
Speaker 1: can get a top flight player, you have to bend

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01:59:14,320 --> 01:59:18,400
Speaker 1: and cater to that player's strengths to maximize what you

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01:59:18,480 --> 01:59:20,840
Speaker 1: want to get on the field from said player. And

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01:59:21,200 --> 01:59:23,560
Speaker 1: that's where we are in the NFL these days. With

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01:59:24,000 --> 01:59:27,320
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot more coaching staffs that cater

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01:59:27,600 --> 01:59:31,680
Speaker 1: and bend their schemes to the talents of the players,

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01:59:32,080 --> 01:59:34,760
Speaker 1: maybe more than ever. It's the only way to do

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01:59:34,800 --> 01:59:37,080
Speaker 1: it in the NFL these days. So if you're doing

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01:59:37,440 --> 01:59:40,640
Speaker 1: if you're not doing that, NFL, you're done. So I say, yes,

2148
01:59:40,680 --> 01:59:43,920
Speaker 1: your system needs this change, and I would say true, yeah,

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01:59:44,240 --> 01:59:45,920
Speaker 1: And I would say this as well. There's a lot

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01:59:46,040 --> 01:59:47,960
Speaker 1: goes into this. It's not just a simple cut and

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01:59:48,000 --> 01:59:50,240
Speaker 1: dried answer. You're right, it's not just a simple truth false,

2152
01:59:50,280 --> 01:59:54,000
Speaker 1: because there are ways within every system to accommodate a

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01:59:54,120 --> 01:59:57,400
Speaker 1: player's skill set if it doesn't exactly meet the needs

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01:59:57,440 --> 02:00:00,400
Speaker 1: of the system. By the same token, if you're talking

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Speaker 1: about a Pro Bowl or maybe All Pro quarterback getting

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02:00:04,120 --> 02:00:07,800
Speaker 1: dropped into your lap. You do that, You make that

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Speaker 1: offense do what he wants it to do, what he

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02:00:10,200 --> 02:00:12,360
Speaker 1: needs it to do. And you can do that for

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Speaker 1: that guy. And it depends. Now, if it's an offensive guard,

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02:00:16,880 --> 02:00:20,040
Speaker 1: you know, maybe maybe you kind of ask him to,

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02:00:20,200 --> 02:00:22,400
Speaker 1: you know, to extend his skill set a little bit too.

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02:00:22,480 --> 02:00:24,600
Speaker 1: You're not going to change what the whiteouts and all

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02:00:24,680 --> 02:00:27,280
Speaker 1: that stuff we're doing because you got a guard who

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Speaker 1: can't do. And this whole argument stemmed from NFL Networks

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Speaker 1: Tom Pella Sero's report about Janik and Gockway. Apparently the

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Speaker 1: Jacks got a bunch of trade offers, including one that

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Speaker 1: included a Pro Bowl player, but the Jacks turned it down, saying, ah,

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Speaker 1: that guy doesn't fit our system. I think that's just

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Speaker 1: a line that a team gives another team as an

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Speaker 1: excuse as to why they don't want to do the deal.

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02:00:51,040 --> 02:00:54,400
Speaker 1: That's right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's yeah. I agree with that,

2172
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Speaker 1: And you're right though, but there is something to it.

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Speaker 1: Now if you've got an a stab but you know, Jacksonville,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, you might have a hard time seeing

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02:01:01,760 --> 02:01:06,160
Speaker 1: that being a rationale because they're in a total Trevor

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02:01:06,280 --> 02:01:10,520
Speaker 1: Lawrence mode anyway. So I'm thinking, you know, they what

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Speaker 1: do they care? But Doug Marone's trying to win games

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Speaker 1: to save his job, and he's not going to take

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Speaker 1: a step back in it anywhere. He's trying to get

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02:01:20,040 --> 02:01:23,760
Speaker 1: he's trying to keep it all together. I just think

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Speaker 1: that if you're if you've got a team that's at

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Speaker 1: a point where you can get a good player drive,

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Speaker 1: if you're it's like you said, Brownie, how much how

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Speaker 1: much does your system really mean to you? And it's

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Speaker 1: you've got to find players, particularly on the defensive side

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Speaker 1: of the ball, because everybody has to do the same

2187
02:01:39,280 --> 02:01:41,640
Speaker 1: thing now, you know, everybody has to be on the

2188
02:01:41,720 --> 02:01:47,080
Speaker 1: same page. Offensively, you can there's enough creativity allowed on

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Speaker 1: the offensive side of the football where you can have

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Speaker 1: a wide receiver. You can isolate him and then you

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02:01:51,160 --> 02:01:53,600
Speaker 1: can let him do his thing, or you can put

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Speaker 1: him in inside, let him get double teamed and use

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02:01:56,160 --> 02:01:59,320
Speaker 1: him as a deco whatever running back to the same thing.

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02:01:59,360 --> 02:02:01,040
Speaker 1: You can split out, or you can put him in

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Speaker 1: the eyeback and hand him the ball. You know, any

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02:02:03,040 --> 02:02:05,160
Speaker 1: of that stuff. So there's a lot of creativity on

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Speaker 1: the offensive side of the football that we'll say, you know,

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Speaker 1: we can put this guy. We'll put in a couple

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Speaker 1: of plays for him. We got a package for him.

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02:02:11,280 --> 02:02:16,200
Speaker 1: I mean remember Antoine Randall, l even Isaiah McKenzie. You know,

2201
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Speaker 1: guys like that around the league. Have some plays and

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02:02:19,320 --> 02:02:23,160
Speaker 1: the team will keep a package in for him. Offensively,

2203
02:02:23,240 --> 02:02:29,280
Speaker 1: you can do that. Defensively, he's got a fit. He's

2204
02:02:29,320 --> 02:02:30,720
Speaker 1: got to be able to play because you gotta know

2205
02:02:30,800 --> 02:02:32,960
Speaker 1: where your help is. You gotta know what your adjustments are.

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02:02:33,080 --> 02:02:34,520
Speaker 1: You got to you gotta make sure you don't leave

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02:02:34,560 --> 02:02:37,440
Speaker 1: a guy running open. H He's gotta fit. I think

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02:02:37,480 --> 02:02:39,040
Speaker 1: a little more on that side of the ball than

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Speaker 1: he does offensively, at least that's that's generally speaking. That's

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Speaker 1: my take. So that's a hard true false question. I'm

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02:02:45,520 --> 02:02:47,080
Speaker 1: gonna have to give Jay some trouble on. But I

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Speaker 1: would say, no, I'm not changing to fit one player.

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Speaker 1: We'll make will one player. No, But if I got

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Speaker 1: six players that would be better in a different scheme, Okay,

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02:02:55,880 --> 02:02:58,600
Speaker 1: maybe I will think about giving those guys a different

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02:02:58,600 --> 02:03:01,080
Speaker 1: scheme to work in. But one guy, I think that's

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Speaker 1: a bad idea. That's NFL true false Number one Number

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Speaker 1: two NFL true false. Number two, we got time one

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Speaker 1: quick one forty nine Ers versus Seahawks is the top

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Speaker 1: rivalry headed into the twenty twenty season. This obviously comes

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Speaker 1: after the three games they played last year that that

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Speaker 1: we're decided by a total of two points over the

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Speaker 1: three games. Yeah, they were, and that was an amazing

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Speaker 1: matchup last year. And when games are tight like that,

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Speaker 1: and you know the teams are splitting wins and losses,

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02:03:27,520 --> 02:03:32,280
Speaker 1: they're meaningful, and they're both playoff caliber teams, it only

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Speaker 1: heightens rivalries. I would say there's a part of me

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Speaker 1: that still wants to say Baltimore in Pittsburgh with Roethlisberger

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02:03:41,040 --> 02:03:44,560
Speaker 1: coming back this year, but I think that rivalry may

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02:03:44,640 --> 02:03:47,360
Speaker 1: have lost a little bit of its luster, so I

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02:03:47,920 --> 02:03:50,640
Speaker 1: could buy it. I would buy it as a top

2232
02:03:50,760 --> 02:03:53,400
Speaker 1: rivalry heading into this season because both of those clubs

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02:03:53,400 --> 02:03:55,920
Speaker 1: are supposed to be very good again this season. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would say true on that. Yeah, I'd say true

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02:03:58,080 --> 02:03:59,880
Speaker 1: as well. It's just because of the freshness of the

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Speaker 1: quality of the rivalry. Certainly Baltimore Pittsburgh is a good one,

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02:04:03,320 --> 02:04:05,160
Speaker 1: but Ben was out last year. Don't know how he's

2238
02:04:05,160 --> 02:04:06,760
Speaker 1: going to be at this point. You're looking forward, you

2239
02:04:06,800 --> 02:04:08,600
Speaker 1: don't know. There's too many question marks about how it's

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Speaker 1: gonna fall. It will be interesting to see how the

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02:04:11,680 --> 02:04:15,520
Speaker 1: offense of Baltimore has evolved away from just run run, run, run,

2242
02:04:15,640 --> 02:04:18,440
Speaker 1: throw run, run, run, run, run, throw. Um. They're gonna

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02:04:18,480 --> 02:04:20,960
Speaker 1: have to find a way to diversify a little bit.

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02:04:21,320 --> 02:04:24,480
Speaker 1: But man, oh man, it'll be fun to watch a

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Speaker 1: guy like Ben Roethlisberger taking on a guy like Lamar Jackson,

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02:04:27,320 --> 02:04:29,920
Speaker 1: no question. But I think for going forward, Russell Wilson,

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02:04:30,040 --> 02:04:33,880
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo and the Niners, you have the Richard Sherman

2248
02:04:33,960 --> 02:04:36,760
Speaker 1: angle and the whole it's a it's a great rivalry.

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Speaker 1: Those games last year were really epic. They came all

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Speaker 1: the way down. You remember the last year they had

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Speaker 1: the guy the tight end falls backward trying to get

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Speaker 1: in the end zone. He falls like a quarter of

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02:04:46,240 --> 02:04:49,880
Speaker 1: an inch over or short of the goal line on

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02:04:50,040 --> 02:04:52,720
Speaker 1: his back and you're trying to make that's the game

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Speaker 1: right there. It's the final play in the final minute

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Speaker 1: of the government Yeah seventeen, it was, Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 1: It's how because if Seattle won that, they would have

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02:05:01,720 --> 02:05:03,680
Speaker 1: got a playoff by if they won that game and

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02:05:03,960 --> 02:05:08,800
Speaker 1: unbelievable game. They were really incredibly, incredibly tight games right

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Speaker 1: down to the wire, and both of them in the

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Speaker 1: regular season, And so I'm saying, yeah, I'd say true

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Speaker 1: to that. I don't have a problem with it. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't bother me to say that. I'm I don't have

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Speaker 1: any skin in that game. But man oh man, those

2265
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Speaker 1: games last year were worthy of it. So you got

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Speaker 1: to tip your hat to him. That's NFL true false.

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Speaker 1: Brought to you by Yancy's Fancy. We'll be back with

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Speaker 1: What do We Learned right after this on Buffalo Bill's Radio,

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Speaker 1: presented by Kalida Health. This is one of Bill's Live

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Speaker 1: What do We Learned? Brought to you by Skyworks, the

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Speaker 1: official construction equipment rental company of the Buffalo Bills. We

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Speaker 1: had Dan Kaplan on and he has this to say

2273
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Speaker 1: about New Era dropping the naming rights to the Bills stadium.

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02:05:55,240 --> 02:05:59,840
Speaker 1: Usually it's American Airlines, it's United, it's an automobile company,

2275
02:06:00,040 --> 02:06:05,760
Speaker 1: it's a financial services company, the airline, an airline named

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02:06:05,800 --> 02:06:11,360
Speaker 1: the facility in Las Vegas, financial company in La It

2277
02:06:11,560 --> 02:06:15,080
Speaker 1: was a bit unusual in Buffalo, and I think the

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02:06:15,480 --> 02:06:19,400
Speaker 1: conventional wisdom is New York did the deal for Civic Pride,

2279
02:06:19,480 --> 02:06:22,760
Speaker 1: and obviously the pandemic has hit it hard and it

2280
02:06:22,920 --> 02:06:26,000
Speaker 1: doesn't make any financial sense for them to stay in.

2281
02:06:26,240 --> 02:06:30,960
Speaker 1: So I'm sure Buffalo will hire a marketing agency, will

2282
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Speaker 1: put out the word and start, you know, start searching

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Speaker 1: for companies. It's obviously not a great time to do

2284
02:06:37,120 --> 02:06:41,240
Speaker 1: that though. That was Daniel Kaplan's sports business reporter for

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02:06:41,280 --> 02:06:45,360
Speaker 1: The Athletic Tomorrow on the program Jeremy Fowler from ESPN

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02:06:45,520 --> 02:06:49,720
Speaker 1: and Steve Palozolo from Pearl Football Focus Brownie Good Show Today.

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Speaker 1: For a Wednesday edition, it sounded felt a lot like

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Speaker 1: a Thursday. Yeah, because it was I know, tomorrow's Friday.

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Speaker 1: I was for the first fourteen or fifteen hours of

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Speaker 1: this day, I thought it was gonna be. No. For

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02:07:06,040 --> 02:07:07,800
Speaker 1: the first twelve hours of this day, I thought it was.

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02:07:08,400 --> 02:07:11,160
Speaker 1: I thought it was Wednesday and not Thursday. So tomorrow

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02:07:11,200 --> 02:07:14,520
Speaker 1: I'll do better. Happen. It'll be Friday. That's right. Talk

2294
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Speaker 1: to you tomorrow, guys. One Bills Live tomorrow at noon.

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Speaker 1: See it then,