WEBVTT - Going, Going Gonorrhea 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:04.280 Hell, I suck at dating with de Nungler and Jared 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:10.920 Haven and I heard radio podcast What's going on? Everyone? 0:00:11.080 --> 0:00:15.040 Welcome to an all new episode of Help. Jared's dogs 0:00:15.080 --> 0:00:20.040 won't stop barking with It's terrible. Like every time we're like, 0:00:20.079 --> 0:00:23.799 all right, let's record. Lois and Ethel are like, you know, 0:00:23.840 --> 0:00:26.840 it's funny. So I'm again at my in law's house 0:00:27.000 --> 0:00:31.440 and they have, uh, there's landscapers around and they literally 0:00:31.560 --> 0:00:35.800 I heard the lawnmower start up right before I joined 0:00:35.800 --> 0:00:38.560 the zoom. I like, you gotta be freaking joking that 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:41.080 dogs are gonna lose their minds. So perfect timing. Welcome 0:00:41.120 --> 0:00:43.040 to Help I Suck at Dating with Lois and Ethel 0:00:43.120 --> 0:00:45.839 losing their minds in the background. You know, you know, 0:00:46.000 --> 0:00:48.280 I I can see how a lot of us would 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:50.080 think it's a bad thing, but in my eyes, it's 0:00:50.120 --> 0:00:53.120 a good thing. Just like how sometimes there's like ambient 0:00:53.200 --> 0:00:55.800 restaurant noises going on and we record it keeps this 0:00:55.920 --> 0:01:00.440 podcast the grassroots authentic self that we needed to always be. Yeah, 0:01:00.440 --> 0:01:03.840 it really humbles us, well, it humbles us, and you know, 0:01:04.040 --> 0:01:07.240 let's every all of our you know, fellow sucky daters, 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:10.319 the suck army know that. You know, that's just life. 0:01:10.319 --> 0:01:11.920 Sometimes it gets in the way the things you need 0:01:11.920 --> 0:01:13.640 to be doing. Yeah, we're just pissing in the wind 0:01:13.680 --> 0:01:15.880 on this podcast. You never know what's gonna happen. Deans 0:01:15.920 --> 0:01:17.959 in a restaurant. My dogs are losing in the mind. 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:20.280 That's why people listen. They just want to know what's 0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:22.839 happening in our lives. Jared, what are we talking about today? 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:24.400 We're talking about a lot of things. We have a 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:28.240 great guest that's coming up. We have a doctor, Jessica Shepherd, 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:30.880 who's an O, B G Y N say that five 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:34.160 times fast, and she's a woman's health expert and she's 0:01:34.200 --> 0:01:37.000 also the founder of her Viewpoint, which is an online 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:41.319 women's health form that focuses on addressing taboo topics in 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:43.720 a comfortable setting, which is fantastic. She's gonna be coming 0:01:43.800 --> 0:01:46.440 up on the podcast a little bit later. We also 0:01:46.480 --> 0:01:50.880 have this article about can anonymous internet critics actually fix 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:54.640 your online dating profile? I think this is actually something 0:01:54.680 --> 0:01:57.360 you and I can speak pretty well on because we've 0:01:57.360 --> 0:02:02.240 had a lot of anonymous critics critique our dating life, 0:02:02.640 --> 0:02:06.960 our Instagram profiles, uh maybe not our dating profiles. So 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:10.520 to speak, but like our overall relationship lives, so I 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:12.240 feel like we can really speak well upon this, And 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:15.000 of course we have emails coming up um later on 0:02:15.040 --> 0:02:16.799 in the podcast. This is something I wanted to talk 0:02:16.840 --> 0:02:19.480 about first though, which is a brand new Netflix show. 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:21.440 I don't know if you saw this dem but it's 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:25.080 called Sexy Beasts. Uh. It's coming out later this summer, 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:30.040 I believe. But Sexy Beasts is a show that contestants. 0:02:30.720 --> 0:02:33.800 It's kind of like Love is Blind with a mix 0:02:33.840 --> 0:02:35.960 of the Mass singer if you've ever seen that show, 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:42.360 where these contestants will show up an elaborate makeup and 0:02:42.400 --> 0:02:46.400 prosthetics in an attempt to answer an aid old question 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:49.639 about love, which is how much de looks actually matter. 0:02:50.000 --> 0:02:52.600 So these people get all dressed up and I'm looking 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:57.440 at a picture right now. It's like this super intricate, uh, 0:02:57.760 --> 0:03:01.320 prosthetic design on these people's faces, and it looks like 0:03:01.360 --> 0:03:03.160 their bodies too, So I'm not sure if you can 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:06.880 really tell how you know much in shape they are, 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:09.000 for lack of a better way of phrasing it, but 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:12.079 like this, one woman has this mouse and it looks 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:14.160 like I'm not even joking, it looks like it was 0:03:14.240 --> 0:03:17.160 something in how the grin still Christmas or the cat 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:21.800 in the hat, like high end universal studios types of prosthetics, 0:03:21.840 --> 0:03:24.079 and these people are going on dates. And I'm not 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:27.799 exactly sure how the whole show works, but I'm assuming 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:30.400 at some point, after you get to know your furry 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:34.120 friends that they'll reveal themselves like Love is Blind and 0:03:34.120 --> 0:03:36.160 you'll figure out if you're actually attracted to this person 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:38.560 or not. So what do you think about this show concept? 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:43.119 Sexy Beasts? Caitlin showed me the trailer for a couple 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:45.400 of weeks ago, and it's she was like, this is 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:47.080 the weird thing I've ever seen. I honestly thought it 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:49.920 was pretty awesome. I don't know if it's uh, you know, 0:03:49.960 --> 0:03:51.760 I'm not on my ear on the ground as far 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:53.600 as the furry community goes. I don't know if the 0:03:53.640 --> 0:03:56.920 furry community is like, you know, disgraced and kind of 0:03:57.080 --> 0:04:01.960 a little upset by this, but yeah, offended offended? Yeah, 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:03.839 I mean I can kind of see like why maybe 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:05.440 they would be. I don't know, I think it's hilarious. 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:07.720 It's just like you remember the show Love is Blind. 0:04:07.840 --> 0:04:10.920 It's basically like Love is Blind, except you know, you're 0:04:11.040 --> 0:04:12.640 you're hanging out with this person, but then all of 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:15.960 a sudden they take off their rap costume and then 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:17.520 you have no idea what they're gonna look like underneath. 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:19.760 I mean, I don't know. I think it's it's like 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:22.080 one of those shows that you're definitely gonna watch at 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:25.160 least the first episode to like see if it's something 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:26.640 that you're going to be interested in just because of 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:28.880 how weird it is, and then if it's good enough, 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:31.000 you're definitely gonna watch the est. I find myself, I'm 0:04:31.000 --> 0:04:32.960 gonna probably end up watching the whole thing. I think 0:04:34.160 --> 0:04:36.600 it feels a little weird to me. I like the 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:39.120 idea of it, but like, how far are we gonna 0:04:39.160 --> 0:04:42.560 go in today's society now to like have dating shows 0:04:42.560 --> 0:04:45.320 where you can't see the other person's face because you 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:47.400 want to get to know their personality first and then 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:51.080 they'll reveal themselves. So I feel like all these TV 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:54.680 producers now are like, Okay, you know Love is Blind 0:04:54.760 --> 0:04:57.520 is out there. Uh, we we need to figure out 0:04:57.600 --> 0:05:00.520 some way to do that show. But not do that show, 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:02.679 you know what I mean, have our own thing. Let's 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:07.479 put mass, but like not just regular mask on people. 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:09.680 When they go on dates. But like, let's dress some 0:05:09.800 --> 0:05:13.880 like animals. Let's have a squirrel, a panda, an alien, 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:17.080 a devil perhaps, and then we're gonna put them on 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:19.360 dates and it's gonna be like a fetish type thing. 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:21.240 But then they're gonna take their mass off and really 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:23.480 find out if they truly love each other with how 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:25.480 they if they're attracted to each other. I don't know. 0:05:25.720 --> 0:05:27.880 It's like how far are we gonna go? Like what's 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:30.880 the next thing? I don't know, Like, I don't know 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:33.040 if I could take this show seriously. We got a mouse, 0:05:33.440 --> 0:05:36.480 we got an alien, like whatever, it's gonna be funny. 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:39.640 I guess it will be entertaining. To be fair, I 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:41.680 didn't think the mass singer was gonna work, and I 0:05:41.760 --> 0:05:44.400 love that show. So I've been wrong before. I'll be 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:46.960 wrong again. I'll probably be wrong about the show, but 0:05:46.960 --> 0:05:48.680 I don't know if I'm gonna watch it. You make 0:05:48.720 --> 0:05:50.520 a good point about the mask thing. It's like, yeah, 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:53.080 they definitely just sent these people out with like regular 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:55.720 masks on like a you know, like a mask arade 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:59.800 ball type mask. But they're like remember that goose bumps 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:02.919 ask like the Jason No, you remember you never watched 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:04.680 goose Bumps or Red goose Bumps as a kid, I 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:07.560 read the books. I don't think I ever remember bro 0:06:07.680 --> 0:06:10.040 that it got stuck to her face and she couldn't 0:06:10.040 --> 0:06:12.000 take it off because it was, you know, obviously a 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:16.280 possessed mask. Uh no, I'm trying to blank, but yeah, no, 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:17.920 I see your point. I see your point. I don't 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:20.680 know did you watch because Demi, who were friends with, 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:24.920 was just on celebrity dating game that should has been 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:28.040 that should has been. Uh, it's been on TV. It's 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:29.599 been on for a while. I think it went away 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:32.080 for a while, right, But it's just it was just 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:34.120 I don't know. Have you been watching it at all? No, 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:36.000 I haven't watched it. Like I saw clips because Handa 0:06:36.080 --> 0:06:37.960 was on it too, Hannah Brown, I don't think that's 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:39.960 where she met her boyfriend though, so obviously it didn't 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:42.280 work out with ever contestant she picked. But yeah, they 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:44.720 had hand on it and then they had Demi on it, 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:46.800 and I saw a clip to both. I didn't watch it, 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:49.359 but I don't know did Demi find someone? Do we 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:51.960 know these things? I texted her when it was airing, 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:53.000 and I was like, tell me you went on a 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:55.440 date with this girl. Uh, and she just gave him 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:57.560 one of you know, like a demi response, just like 0:06:57.640 --> 0:07:00.360 joking around, but it was I mean, you're not missing anything. 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:02.440 It's just another one of those shows. I feel like that. 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:03.960 You're right. I feel like, just right now, there's so 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:07.920 many shows that are just so ridiculous obnoxious. Uh, they're 0:07:07.920 --> 0:07:09.920 just you know, throwing as much crap with law and 0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:11.760 hoping some of it sticks. What it really what it 0:07:11.760 --> 0:07:15.200 seems like? Hey, whatever entertains people, I guess. Uh. So 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:18.320 our next topic is what we talked about before. Can 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:22.600 anonymous internet critics actually fix your online dating profile? So 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:27.520 this is an article from inside hook or no, excuse me, 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:29.280 it's just called hook. I don't know what hook is. 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:31.480 I gotta be honest, but hey, we like talking about it. 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:35.760 When you're single and wildly unsexful, unsuccessful at online dating, 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:39.480 you might attempt the same dicey maneuver that Peter and 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:42.360 many others have, which is post your profile on Reddit 0:07:42.600 --> 0:07:46.520 so that hundreds of strangers can critique it. Peter says, 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:49.400 I really wanted to know how am I perceived. He's 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:51.920 a scientist in his late forties. He lives in the Southeast, 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:54.960 and like the other Reddit users quoted in this article, 0:07:55.400 --> 0:07:59.200 he spoke to uh them under a pseudonym, and he 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:01.360 said to me that seemed to be important to do 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:03.679 online dating. I needed to figure out how I perceived 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:05.840 and hired project what I want to sell. For lack 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:08.320 of a better term, he likens the act of deparation 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:11.080 he took to Reddit to a market research. He says 0:08:11.120 --> 0:08:13.320 part of what prompted the decision was that after putting 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:15.680 a good deal of effort into something he's not used to, 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:19.000 such poor results. That's interesting. When Peter first offered up 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:22.600 his profile to the sub riddit for review, it was skewed, 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:25.840 and rightfully so, he says, I did one thing wrong. 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:29.160 Peter admits, I just had some pictures, uh and I 0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:32.600 just had some pictures and my height. The Reddit chorus 0:08:32.679 --> 0:08:35.880 as they're called, chimed in to remind Peter that nobody 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:38.400 can just have a blank profile. So, with what he 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:43.560 believed to be surgical precision, Peter reconstructed his entire dating profile, 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:47.080 adding detail about some daredevil hobbies that he likes to 0:08:47.120 --> 0:08:49.080 take part in, some stuff about his job and his 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:52.920 taste in movies, as well as upgrading his photos. So, Dean, 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:55.280 do you think this is something that more people should do, 0:08:55.760 --> 0:09:00.880 anonymously post their dating profile on Reddit and see what 0:09:00.920 --> 0:09:03.080 people have to say about it. I think it takes 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:05.760 a special person to be able to open themselves up 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:08.680 to that kind of criticism, because it really is. I mean, 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:12.320 sometimes I'll see on Reddit it's like, uh, you know, 0:09:12.480 --> 0:09:14.560 do your best roast me right now, Reddit, and you'll 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:18.160 like click on the comments and it's just like so bad, 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:21.720 and like even if you're like this, even if you're 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:23.760 like you know, even if you have like this thick 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:27.920 skin and you're used to like everything, some of that stuff, man, 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:30.200 it's like it's and there, you know, obviously, like they're 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:32.599 asking for it. And so people on the internet, the 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:36.800 Internet is always undefeated. These people are freaking ruthless and 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:40.520 like hilariously just mean sometimes you know what I mean. 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:43.120 So I think as long as you go into it 0:09:43.240 --> 0:09:46.600 knowing that you're gonna come out of it maybe like 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:48.640 a little sadder, that's not the worst thing in the 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:52.120 world to do. What do you think the problem with 0:09:52.160 --> 0:09:58.560 Reddit is that there is some really horrible people on 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:02.400 Reddit who will just say the meanest things. And it's 0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:05.200 not always truthful, Like there's always that ed, like that 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:08.280 old saying where like the truth hurts, and so people 0:10:08.320 --> 0:10:12.880 feel like, you know, oh, I'm just being truthful, when 0:10:12.880 --> 0:10:16.559 in actuality, you're just being an asshole. So the problem 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:18.720 is I feel like Reddit people because you're hiding behind 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:22.400 a screen. We've talked about numerous times, whether it be Twitter, Reddit, Instagram. 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:23.760 I feel like Redd it's the worse than this, But 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:27.800 they just say the meanest things and it's not because 0:10:27.800 --> 0:10:29.600 they're being honest. It's because they just want to tear 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:31.839 all the people down. So like posting on Reddit, I 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:34.240 don't know, that's nerve racking. So like you said, if 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:37.280 you're going to do that, you better have some thick skin. 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:39.400 I remember when I was on the show, not a 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:44.600 dating profile, but even Instagram. It's like, you know, I 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:46.800 I used to post and I wouldn't care about the 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:50.240 photos that I posted, But I remember, you know, one 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:52.920 photo would get such good engagement, and then the next 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:55.200 one wouldn't be like, oh that's interesting, I wonder why 0:10:55.240 --> 0:10:57.040 that is. And then like people would be like, oh, 0:10:57.080 --> 0:11:00.160 the lighting sucks on this photo, or like oh it's 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:02.360 so blurry, I can't even see anything. I'm like, oh wow, 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:05.640 my my pictures suck, Like I really need to step 0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:07.679 up my game. So as you and I were kind 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:09.600 of thrown into the fire, I guess people can do 0:11:09.640 --> 0:11:12.320 it if they want post their stuff to Reddit figure 0:11:12.320 --> 0:11:14.920 out what people are thinking about them, or at least 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:18.640 they're dating profile. But again, I better have some thick skin. Well, 0:11:18.640 --> 0:11:20.760 there's a guys to like the anonymity of it all 0:11:20.800 --> 0:11:23.319 where it's like, you know, on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, your 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:26.160 name or your handles attached to it. But Reddit it's like, 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:30.520 you know, it's you are who you are. You're no 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:32.959 one on Reddit essentially, right, like you have no attachment 0:11:33.240 --> 0:11:35.959 between your Reddit personality and your real life personality, or 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:38.320 like there's no consequences you could face by being this 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:40.680 person on Reddit because you're never gonna get it traced 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:44.360 back to you, uh, in real life, Like you know, 0:11:44.480 --> 0:11:46.600 it's it's so funny. It's it's kind of funny that 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:49.040 you mentioned this too, Like on Instagram, let's say, post 0:11:49.040 --> 0:11:51.400 to put on Instagram. You know it gets you know, however, 0:11:51.440 --> 0:11:53.520 many like thousands of like a couple hund comments whatever 0:11:53.520 --> 0:11:55.520 it is, and now I just like I feel like 0:11:55.559 --> 0:11:57.000 I'm used to that and so when I'm like on 0:11:57.040 --> 0:11:59.880 Reddit and I'm like commenting on things, uh, you know, 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:03.280 like I'm like not active, but like I'm semi active. 0:12:03.280 --> 0:12:05.880 Like I'll comment a little bit on like certain forums, 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:08.640 whether it's like van life forums or like, I don't know, 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:10.480 it's like some video game ones that I like pay 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:13.280 attention to or like Wall Street bets type crap, and 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:15.959 it'll get like no engagement, like no one will interact 0:12:15.960 --> 0:12:17.680 with it. And I'm like, wow, I forgot what this 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:20.079 was like to be like a person, because like I've 0:12:20.120 --> 0:12:22.320 got no like wittiness about me or you like, you 0:12:22.360 --> 0:12:24.480 know to a degree shirt. But like it compared to 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:26.840 the people on Reddit, I am at the very bottom 0:12:26.880 --> 0:12:29.240 of the of the pecking order, and so like post 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:31.240 something and get zer engagement out of it. Not that 0:12:31.240 --> 0:12:33.040 that's what I'm posting it for anyways, but it's just 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:35.280 like it's just the very humbling experience. And I think 0:12:35.280 --> 0:12:37.320 that's what Reddit is there for, is to kind of 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:40.679 be that humbling, uh resource for a lot of people. 0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:42.800 And yeah, I mean the roast me things man, And 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:44.920 it's like it's it's interesting too. And maybe it's just 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:46.480 the ones that I see, like the ones that kind 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:49.240 of get uh up voted to the top of the lesson. 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:51.240 That's like why they're on the popular page. But it's like, 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:55.520 you know, like a slightly overweight person with like a 0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:58.760 big piercing in their nose and like a big tattoo 0:12:58.840 --> 0:13:01.720 on their neck, and it's like, of course you're gonna 0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:04.240 be roasted for the things that make you look different. 0:13:04.920 --> 0:13:08.080 It's just but it's just merciless, is really what it is. 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:12.000 But the dating the dating profile thing, uh could be 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:16.160 beneficial because it's like, Okay, yeah, you're not gonna obviously 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:19.000 take every bit of advice word for word, but it 0:13:19.120 --> 0:13:21.360 is a nice way to get like anonymous feedback on 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:23.840 the things that you think are either clever or like 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:26.400 your photos that you look cute in. So, I mean, 0:13:26.440 --> 0:13:28.160 I could see that being a little bit more beneficial 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:30.160 than the simple like holding a piece of paper saying 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:32.320 roast me kind of thing. You know. So you could 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:34.199 also ask you friends too, Like I feel like a 0:13:34.240 --> 0:13:36.040 lot of people are nervous about asking their friends for 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:38.400 criticism about their dating profile to make it better, But 0:13:38.480 --> 0:13:40.560 like that's what I would do first. I would ask 0:13:40.600 --> 0:13:42.640 my close personal friends saying, hey, what do you think 0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:44.400 about this, what do you think about that? See how 0:13:44.400 --> 0:13:47.000 you handle that criticism, and if you handle it fine 0:13:47.000 --> 0:13:49.800 and you want more critiques, go to then go to 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:51.400 Reddit and try it out. I think you should just 0:13:51.400 --> 0:13:54.320 post your dating profile however you want to post it, 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:56.240 because that's who you are, and that's a reflection of 0:13:56.240 --> 0:13:58.719 you as a person, and so like by doing that, 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:00.600 people are gonna match it to you based off of 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:03.080 the things that you've done, which just kind of makes 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:05.040 me maybe for more of a sincere connection at the 0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:08.040 end of the day. But I think that, well, I 0:14:08.400 --> 0:14:10.680 I agree with you somewhat, but I also think you 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:12.079 have to put some effort into it. In order to 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:15.040 put effort into it, I I've always found that, you know, 0:14:15.200 --> 0:14:17.760 it's always beneficial for me to like balance ideas off 0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:22.119 my friends because that will, you know, have some creativity 0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:24.240 into it compared to me where I don't feel like 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:26.000 I'm not creative on my own and I'm like, oh, 0:14:26.040 --> 0:14:27.880 I guess I feel like when I just do things 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:30.440 on my own, I don't do them as well as 0:14:30.440 --> 0:14:32.840 I possibly could, because I find I'm more creative when 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:35.040 I'm in a circle or with my friends And be like, 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:37.320 what about that? And then they something and say something 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:39.120 and I'm like, oh, that's a good idea, but that 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:41.560 actually gave me another idea. So I don't know. It It 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:43.160 all depends on how much effort you really want to 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:44.720 put into it. I guess that's the point of the story. 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:46.480 I have a question for you, though, because you said 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:48.600 that you're active on Reddit. Have you ever responded to 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:51.960 Reddit people talking about you from the show. Uh No, 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:55.960 I'm familiar with the sub breddit for the show, but 0:14:56.520 --> 0:15:00.400 I've never commented in it. I used to check it sometimes, 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:01.960 like every once in a while, like a long time ago, 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:04.680 but you know, I think it's just kind of like 0:15:04.720 --> 0:15:07.560 an ignorance bless thing. At this point, Ashley used to 0:15:07.600 --> 0:15:09.280 check it. She doesn't check it anymore, but she used 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:10.840 to read a lot of the comments on Reddit and 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:12.400 it would bug her because, you know, they were just 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:15.320 a ruthless or Like I remember when we first got together, 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:17.000 she was telling me that there were so many people 0:15:17.040 --> 0:15:19.840 on there um saying that we were just doing it 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:22.600 for fame and we weren't really in love and it 0:15:22.640 --> 0:15:25.440 was all fake and that like I was. I I 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:27.640 lost my fifteen minutes of fame, so I was just 0:15:27.720 --> 0:15:31.080 wanted to cling on to Ashley to try to proll 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:33.560 along this. And I remember one time, this is before 0:15:33.600 --> 0:15:36.640 Ashley and I came out as a couple. We were 0:15:36.760 --> 0:15:39.000 we were dating, but we weren't public yet. And I 0:15:39.080 --> 0:15:41.120 might have told this story on the podcast before. But 0:15:41.240 --> 0:15:45.720 my friend who's very much active on the subcreddit, uh, 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:49.440 she's she's a big reality TV buff, and she sent 0:15:49.480 --> 0:15:54.960 me a screenshot of somebody who commented on the reddit saying, um, 0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:58.000 she said, uh, something along the lines about how one 0:15:58.000 --> 0:16:01.920 of her close friends was my best friend. And she 0:16:02.320 --> 0:16:06.000 told her that I that Ashley and I were only 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:09.280 dating for the fame, and that we weren't actually in 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:11.200 love and we're going to break up in two months. 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:13.360 And she said this all the red. She's like, I 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:16.280 know Jared's best friend and this is what the best 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:19.480 friend told me because I'm friends with her. And uh, anyway, 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:23.360 long story short, my sister h saw this and then 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:26.040 found out who the reddit person was, like, found out 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:29.200 who they are and and messaged them on social media 0:16:29.280 --> 0:16:31.080 and was like what, like why are you saying this 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:35.360 about my brother? And she blocked My sister deleted her comment. 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:37.920 It was crazy. It was like I can't believe that 0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:41.520 people just like say things and then get confronted about 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:46.040 them and then are like, never mind, I was lying. Wait, 0:16:46.120 --> 0:16:48.720 that's actually insane. And you know the reason they do 0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:51.520 that is because they get the attention for it, right, 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:53.560 Like if you have like this juicy bit of gossip 0:16:53.680 --> 0:16:56.320 or whatever it's I mean, And that that expands way 0:16:56.360 --> 0:16:59.160 outside of the Internet too, just in general, like in person, 0:16:59.720 --> 0:17:01.680 if you like a little bit of hot gas and 0:17:01.720 --> 0:17:04.120 you you know, you kind of like have people waiting 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:06.159 on you every word. Uh So, I mean that's kind 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:07.399 of where that comes from. But at the end of 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:10.040 the day too, it's like it is it is human 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:11.640 nature to like kind of be at least a little 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:14.879 curious to see and hear what people are saying about you, 0:17:15.280 --> 0:17:18.480 like kind of without your participation in there. Like you know, 0:17:18.680 --> 0:17:20.840 if you have the chance like eavesdrop on a conversation 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:22.760 or your friends were talking about you without them knowing 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:24.479 that you were listening to them, like of course everyone 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:27.719 at least it's gonna be a little bit curious. Um. 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:30.600 But like we said earlier, dude, the internet can be 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:33.520 a very very mean and ugly place. And I'm not 0:17:33.560 --> 0:17:35.840 saying that's how it is over there. But I think 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:37.200 you just kind of get to a point where, like, 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:40.080 you know what, I'm just gonna go ahead and forego 0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:41.600 that for my own mental health, and I think it 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:44.600 should be that way. But we don't read them anymore. 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:47.360 But it also sorry, now, of course they're coming. They're 0:17:47.400 --> 0:17:49.280 mowing the lawn over here. They're doing a great job, 0:17:49.280 --> 0:17:51.480 they're working hard. I don't mean to criticize them there, 0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:55.119 but it's very loud, and I apologize, Andy, but I 0:17:55.119 --> 0:17:57.119 listen to this podcast where the audio might sound that 0:17:57.240 --> 0:18:00.240 sound the best in the background, but I digress. Um. 0:18:00.280 --> 0:18:02.399 What I was gonna say is, oh, to bounce off 0:18:02.760 --> 0:18:05.800 the hot goss idea. You're totally right, but like that's 0:18:05.840 --> 0:18:08.120 just human nature. It's not just like a Reddit thing 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:10.280 or an Internet thing, Like that's just what human beings do. 0:18:10.359 --> 0:18:13.560 Remember remember playing Telephone as a kid, that game where 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:16.159 like you'd have a line of like fifteen people and 0:18:16.240 --> 0:18:19.280 somebody would say, you know, something into somebody's ear, and 0:18:19.280 --> 0:18:21.600 then it would get past along all the way down 0:18:21.680 --> 0:18:24.320 until it gets to the last person and then they're like, Okay, 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:26.679 what did you actually say? And then what did the 0:18:26.760 --> 0:18:30.800 last person here? Does that make sense? And like it's 0:18:30.880 --> 0:18:35.600 always wildly different because everybody, like you know, speaks in 0:18:35.720 --> 0:18:39.600 hyperbole or dramatizes the situation or kind of changes a 0:18:39.680 --> 0:18:44.160 little bit. It's like, oh, I think it could be like, oh, 0:18:44.200 --> 0:18:46.280