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Speaker 1: Guy am Chad Milman. I am joined by my bff,

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Speaker 1: my companion, Michael Padre, professional better Simon Hunter. We're doing

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Speaker 1: a very special bonus episode, bonus college football bull betting episode.

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Speaker 1: There is no one in the world, true story, no

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Speaker 1: SEC because he loves talking about college football. Welcome. What

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Speaker 1: are the five things we need to be thinking about

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Speaker 1: right now? How college bull betting is different than regular

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Speaker 1: college football betting. Let's do it. The thing that you

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Speaker 1: I got games on Wednesday and Thursday and Monday. Underdogs

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Speaker 1: I don't know, eight games of the season. I mean,

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Speaker 1: just you know, just showing up lifeless to these games

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Speaker 1: I can't cover. I mean, Dabbo went a month and

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Speaker 1: a half without covering a game, and then all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, they've scored thirty points in their last five games.

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Speaker 1: They figured it out offensively. The defensive talent has always

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Speaker 1: been there. I think there's still this big hate for

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Speaker 1: Clemson in the public, and that makes a really good

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Speaker 1: opportunity for us betters. Alright, Colin, I feel like you've

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Speaker 1: primed us for the UH, for the bull games that

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Speaker 1: are happening between now, which is December and the end

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Speaker 1: of the year. And I think people are gonna need

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Speaker 1: to keep up with you. They're gonna need to keep

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Speaker 1: up with Stucky, They're gonna need to keep up with

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Speaker 1: Bret McMurphy. And if you're dying to hear more bull

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Speaker 1: betting content and who wouldn't be, check out the Big

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Speaker 1: Bets on Campus podcast with Colin Wilson and Stucky, the

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Speaker 1: BBO C Live Show, which we will be doing a

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Speaker 1: few episodes of on Twitter at Action Network HQ over

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Speaker 1: the next few Saturdays, so we can be previewing games

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Speaker 1: sort of in advance of you know, the National plaoff.

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Speaker 1: Colin Wilson, thank you so much, Brother Simon Hunter. For

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Speaker 1: Simon Hunter, I am Chad Millman. This has been the

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Speaker 1: special Bowl Betting episode of Favorites from the Volume podcast

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Speaker 1: networked Down, Love Us and Spotify, Apple Podcast wherever you

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Speaker 1: get your podcast. Until next time, I love you.