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Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. It is Monday, November twentieth, two, seventeen, Season thirteen,
Speaker 1: episode number seventy nine. Welcome to another edition of The Break,
Speaker 1: live from the s WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star.
Speaker 1: And today we've got to talk about that game yesterday.
Speaker 1: Cowboys lose thirty seven nine in a game that in
Speaker 1: the first half seemed as though maybe the Cowboys were
Speaker 1: doing a lot of things right, specifically on the defensive
Speaker 1: side of the ball. But then after halftime the wheels
Speaker 1: fall off and and they end up being outscore thirty
Speaker 1: to nothing in the second half alone. Tough day for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys and U and looking like a pretty perilous
Speaker 1: situation for them if playoffs are part of their goals
Speaker 1: for this year. Let's go around the table and let's
Speaker 1: just get some general thoughts of what you saw yesterday.
Speaker 1: And what you're thinking about this team right now, Nick,
Speaker 1: I'll start with you, Well, I just thought that, you know,
Speaker 1: for the second week in a row, it just looked
Speaker 1: like this team didn't make any adjustments in the second half.
Speaker 1: And you know, they played pretty you know, a pretty
Speaker 1: good first half, but you didn't score any any touchdowns. Obviously,
Speaker 1: the offense is just really a problem, and you know
Speaker 1: you expect that when you're missing Tyron Smith and Zeke,
Speaker 1: but you know, you expect the coaching staff to be
Speaker 1: able to kind of rally the troops around a little
Speaker 1: bit more and scheme them in position to make more plays,
Speaker 1: and they haven't done that. So and everyone would probably
Speaker 1: say similar things, But I thought, you know, coaching staff,
Speaker 1: I thought it could have done a much better job
Speaker 1: with this. Let's jump to you Amber. What what were
Speaker 1: your thoughts. Well, I'm still training to figure out, honestly,
Speaker 1: and this is it wouldn't make sense me to say
Speaker 1: I thought it would be worse when you see the
Speaker 1: score and the turnout have things you know obviously turned
Speaker 1: out for them. But again, I thought the defense at
Speaker 1: the first in the first half, they did a lot
Speaker 1: better than I expected. And I'm sure everyone a lot
Speaker 1: better than what everyone expected without Sean Lee, so they
Speaker 1: had a chance there. Again, I don't know how. I
Speaker 1: can't figure out what it is that the offense isn't
Speaker 1: able to really do. Why can't Dak have a better
Speaker 1: connection with this receiver When it's not Dak messing up,
Speaker 1: it's the receiver messing up and vice versa and again.
Speaker 1: And he said it last night, it's either if the
Speaker 1: running game is not going, the passing game is going.
Speaker 1: If the passing game is going, then the running game
Speaker 1: is not going. So they just have to figure out
Speaker 1: a way to just get better. And I don't know
Speaker 1: how it gets better from here. Dave, It's certainly not
Speaker 1: the first time the Cowboys have lost in the Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott era. It's not the first time they got in
Speaker 1: their butts kicked in the Dak Prescott era. But I
Speaker 1: think that is really truly the first time where the
Speaker 1: Cowboys lost a game looked bad and Dak Prescott looked bad.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's not the only one. There's plenty of
Speaker 1: blame to go around. When you lose by what was
Speaker 1: thirty seven, so you were seven nine year by twenty
Speaker 1: eight points, there's plenty of blame to go around. But
Speaker 1: I said on Friday, he's going to have to have
Speaker 1: the best game of his career if they were going
Speaker 1: to win this game. And I think he had. I
Speaker 1: know he had the worst. He had the worst game
Speaker 1: of his career last night. Yeah, no doubt. Statistically was
Speaker 1: the worst game of his career. He was eighteen to
Speaker 1: thirty one, fifty eight percent completion rate, only one hundred
Speaker 1: and forty five yards, which a lot of that came
Speaker 1: at least final drive drives, thirty to sixty of it
Speaker 1: came when the game was well decided. He had zero touchdowns,
Speaker 1: three interceptions quarterback creating a thirty point four It was
Speaker 1: not a good day for Dak Prescott. Here's a question
Speaker 1: I have for you, guys. Do you think that it's
Speaker 1: at this point are you willing to concede that it
Speaker 1: maybe just too much to put on his shoulders without
Speaker 1: Ezekuel Elliott or do you still think that yesterday pressure
Speaker 1: was a major problem for him. He did get sacked
Speaker 1: four times. It didn't feel to me, just as an observer,
Speaker 1: it didn't feel to me as though he was getting
Speaker 1: an inordinate amount of pressure, especially early in the game
Speaker 1: when the game was more in you know, kind of
Speaker 1: in the balance. But do you think that it was
Speaker 1: the pressure or do you think that that this offense
Speaker 1: really is about Ezequiel Elliott and they can't move the
Speaker 1: ball consistently without him. If you want to make an
Speaker 1: excuse that somebody wasn't there, that's fine. Tyrn Smith is
Speaker 1: the one because I'm charting it right now. They ran
Speaker 1: the ball for one hundred and twelve yards. They averaged
Speaker 1: four point one yards per carry. I'm in the first
Speaker 1: half right now. I mean, when the game was close
Speaker 1: and they weren't moving the ball, they were still averaging
Speaker 1: four point seven five yards per carry like they were
Speaker 1: running the ball. So yeah, but here's here's a statutill
Speaker 1: throw it. What were they doing on first that's the
Speaker 1: big difference. I'll tell you the numbers on first down
Speaker 1: when they were running the ball, they were ten of twenty.
Speaker 1: They were ten for twenty six yards on first down
Speaker 1: in the first half. In other words, in the early
Speaker 1: part of the game, when the offense needed to be
Speaker 1: moving the ball and getting points, they weren't doing anything
Speaker 1: on first down when they ran the ball. That puts
Speaker 1: them behind the chains, That puts an orderate amount of
Speaker 1: pressure because quarterbacks and put you behind the chains. That
Speaker 1: puts you not good enough in the chains. Like second
Speaker 1: and eight is not behind the chains. Behind the chain
Speaker 1: is second and twelve because you lost yards behind the chains.
Speaker 1: But off schedule a second and eight, you're off schedule
Speaker 1: if your second to eight, if you're getting one two
Speaker 1: negative yards on first down, that's great you are you
Speaker 1: are behind the chain. If you're off schedule, that's not ideal.
Speaker 1: It was good enough, like that's what I'm saying, like
Speaker 1: it was good enough for what it's for them to punt.
Speaker 1: You're getting good enough production out of your running game
Speaker 1: that your quarterbacks should be able to make plays. Like
Speaker 1: you're telling me if you're averaging if you're averaging two
Speaker 1: yards per carry, you're not on first That's what I'm
Speaker 1: talking about. That you're averaging two points per yard per
Speaker 1: carry on first downs. You're telling me that's good enough
Speaker 1: to be able to move this offense. I'm telling you
Speaker 1: that if you are averaging four point seven yards per
Speaker 1: carry over the course of the first half, that's great.
Speaker 1: If it's second and eight, move the ball again, like
Speaker 1: complete a pass, don't have your receiver drop the ball.
Speaker 1: Don't throw a bubble screen that almost hits the dirt,
Speaker 1: which happened twice in this game. The running game was
Speaker 1: not good by any stretch of the imagination, not by
Speaker 1: the Cowboys standards. They ran for one hundred and twelve
Speaker 1: yards as a team against the best run defense in
Speaker 1: the league. That's more than good enough. That's more than
Speaker 1: good enough. That's honest. That's probably what you well, not probably,
Speaker 1: that might be what you get if Zeke is in
Speaker 1: the game. We've seen them do that. We saw them
Speaker 1: run for a hundred yards as a team against the Cardinals.
Speaker 1: We saw him run for one oh seven against the Giants.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you're not going to run for one sixty and
Speaker 1: your quarterback has to be good enough to pick up
Speaker 1: the slack and normally, you know, against the Falcons you
Speaker 1: get sacked eight times in the game. There are other factors,
Speaker 1: all things being equal, everything else was good enough at
Speaker 1: least to score more points than nine, to at least
Speaker 1: course in touchdowns. I don't know if you win the game,
Speaker 1: but I thought the running game was there enough for
Speaker 1: it to be balanced, for your passing game to be there.
Speaker 1: Quarterback didn't show up. The receivers didn't show up. I
Speaker 1: don't think you can pend this on not having Ezekiel
Speaker 1: Elliott not based on what I saw. I don't care.
Speaker 1: If they were only averaging whatever yards in the first down,
Speaker 1: you should care because that's what starts to drive like that.
Speaker 1: These drives are stalling because yeah, they're doing some nice things,
Speaker 1: but then when it gets down to it in the
Speaker 1: thirty eight or forty yards, yeah, and let me finish
Speaker 1: just a second. They get thirty eight forty yard line
Speaker 1: and then it stops like that, everything stops right there,
Speaker 1: and then you do have to you're right, like Dad
Speaker 1: needs help. There's no doubt about Dad needs help and
Speaker 1: he can't do it on his own. And we're seeing
Speaker 1: him from last year that who the real MVP is
Speaker 1: because he can't do this on his own. And you
Speaker 1: know those receivers aren't going to help him, like they
Speaker 1: didn't they failed their quarterback last nine. So I mean
Speaker 1: it was it was all in all. I thought that
Speaker 1: you're right about the average yards, but like when they
Speaker 1: really needed yards, they really needed to sustain it, that
Speaker 1: they couldn't. So I just thought, all in all, they
Speaker 1: all kind of failed. Decent numbers overall for the running game,
Speaker 1: but I thought it was kind of hollow really because
Speaker 1: when they needed to run, they couldn't really get it going,
Speaker 1: and the passing game was not there. And don't get
Speaker 1: me wrong, the receivers were awful. I mean, Terrence Williams
Speaker 1: bad ball that turns into an interception in the first quarter.
Speaker 1: I think the first time we've seen that this year.
Speaker 1: Player Dez and Dak typical just didn't look like they
Speaker 1: had their chemistry going. But like like I said, I
Speaker 1: like it sounds like y'all are trying to absolve Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott of playing like absolutely oh absolutely, that's what it
Speaker 1: sounds like. Absolutely not absolutely not. And what I'm I
Speaker 1: guess the point that I'm making is I don't think
Speaker 1: at this point in Dak's career he's good enough. You
Speaker 1: said it should be good enough, He's not good enough
Speaker 1: at this point with the receivers that he has to
Speaker 1: be able to overcome every situation, I mean, being put
Speaker 1: consistently in situations where it's second and eight second and
Speaker 1: nine second and ten. I just don't think he's good
Speaker 1: enough yet to do that. If so, that's a little
Speaker 1: disappointing because I think he is. I mean and he's
Speaker 1: played like he has he has played like he's that
Speaker 1: good before he has that, But that I don't think
Speaker 1: that's the second and second and eight, second and seven?
Speaker 1: What that's okay? Is it ideal? No? But is it
Speaker 1: like he's getting sacked? Is it like they have these
Speaker 1: awful holding penalties like we saw back in the you know,
Speaker 1: actually during the wind streak where they couldn't get out
Speaker 1: of their own way. If you're good quarterback, you should
Speaker 1: be able to convert second and eight. I mean, like,
Speaker 1: that's not this like unconquerable mountain. But they didn't. That's
Speaker 1: my point. Yeah, they didn't. So my point is, okay,
Speaker 1: so what do you I'll ask the question then, so
Speaker 1: what do you blame it on the fact that they
Speaker 1: were in those situations and they weren't able to convert.
Speaker 1: If it wasn't on the fact that the quarterback just
Speaker 1: couldn't do it, then what was it? Bad quarterback play
Speaker 1: and bad just just a complete no show by the
Speaker 1: wide receivers. That's what I put this, right. So, so
Speaker 1: if running game is doing that and the quarterback and
Speaker 1: receivers aren't able to overcome it, you've got a problem. Right,
Speaker 1: So the running game and again that's my point about
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott. With Elliot's in there, you're not getting a
Speaker 1: lot of those second and eight second and nine second
Speaker 1: and tens when he's running the ball in first down.
Speaker 1: The average is much higher on first down. That's the difference.
Speaker 1: And that's the point I wanted to to kind of
Speaker 1: illuminate and talk about, was is this more about Ezekiel
Speaker 1: Elliott and what he's able to do, particularly on first downs?
Speaker 1: I think that you know, we're sitting here arguing like
Speaker 1: is he important? Like is he Is there a big
Speaker 1: drop off between Morris and there there is? I mean
Speaker 1: we all we all know that, and so yes, I
Speaker 1: do think that what we were seeing last year maybe
Speaker 1: some parts of this year that you know, Dak's getting
Speaker 1: a lot more help and the coverage is much different,
Speaker 1: I'm sure, and the passing game is easier to throw
Speaker 1: the ball to cold Beasley and Witten and those guys
Speaker 1: when when you have to, you know, be worried more
Speaker 1: about the running game. I mean, the real issue is
Speaker 1: is that there's not a single player on the offense
Speaker 1: that scares the defense, not one player. Are you worried
Speaker 1: about this? Looks like the Carolina Panthers to me right now,
Speaker 1: like what they what they what they have and they
Speaker 1: have an athletic quarterback who at times can be accurate,
Speaker 1: but at times he can be kind of shaky. His
Speaker 1: receivers aren't that great. Running game is I'm talking about?
Speaker 1: This cowboy team is kind of suspect. There's times when
Speaker 1: it can look pretty good. There's times when it can
Speaker 1: look really bad. Last night it was really bad, you know.
Speaker 1: To me, this is his year, his rookie year in
Speaker 1: the passing game. Like last year, we didn't really see
Speaker 1: him throwing the ball far or any of you know,
Speaker 1: he would play safe. They were relying on the running game.
Speaker 1: But last year the difference was he would play it safe.
Speaker 1: Short passes, Jason Witten, get Cole Beasley more involved, those guys,
Speaker 1: rely on those guys. This year, I feel like he's
Speaker 1: really experiencing his rookie year in the passing game and
Speaker 1: he's not gonna be great. I mean, we still need
Speaker 1: to remember he's a second year guy and people are
Speaker 1: expecting him to ball out and be awesome at everything,
Speaker 1: and it's not like that. He just needs more practice.
Speaker 1: I didn't get a better connection with all these receivers
Speaker 1: who are not helping him at all. Well, you guys
Speaker 1: at all surprised that in the it was in their
Speaker 1: first I'm sorry, the second series of the game, Cowboys
Speaker 1: get down to the Philadelphia twenty seven, it's i'm sorry,
Speaker 1: second and six from the Philadelphia twenty three, and that
Speaker 1: was the play where Dak keeps the ball on his
Speaker 1: own read runs for eleven yards gets them down to
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia twelve. Were you surprised that they didn't go
Speaker 1: back to that the entire rest of the game. I mean,
Speaker 1: it was obviously effective. It's obviously a situation where you're
Speaker 1: trying to create some semblance of creativity in the offense.
Speaker 1: Where you surprised they didn't go back to that and
Speaker 1: use that a little bit more in this game? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember they ran that. I think it was a
Speaker 1: third and two they ran that, but he let Morris
Speaker 1: have it and he just got blown up in the
Speaker 1: back of it. Yeah. No, I mean, yeah, I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't see half of what I thought i'd see
Speaker 1: in terms of misdirection, getting people on the move like
Speaker 1: they had. You know, they had one play that I
Speaker 1: vividly remember where they moved the pocket didn't work out,
Speaker 1: But like they've rant one time, you didn't see any
Speaker 1: boots waggles like we talked about last week, like using
Speaker 1: the tight ends, Like I know you need to keep
Speaker 1: the tight ends to help your protection. And for the
Speaker 1: most part, it seemed like that work. But how about
Speaker 1: how about some delayed screens or some again boot action
Speaker 1: like we saw so many times last year where the
Speaker 1: tight end is a late option in the passing game
Speaker 1: once Dak rolls out like it you when you're not
Speaker 1: when you're not functioning at full capacity, when you don't
Speaker 1: have the ability to just line up and run, when
Speaker 1: you don't have Ezekiel Elliott, you'd think there could be
Speaker 1: some more creativity. I didn't see any, I mean, and
Speaker 1: that sounds like the Cowboys, to be honest with You're like,
Speaker 1: we're gonna, we're gonna do our thing. We're gonna this
Speaker 1: is what we're good as, Like, well, you're good at it.
Speaker 1: When you have one of the best running backs in
Speaker 1: the league, you should probably recon city or your options
Speaker 1: based on what we got here. And you know, they
Speaker 1: they've made a value and effort to try to get
Speaker 1: Dez Bryant the ball, like out in space, and you know,
Speaker 1: maybe three or four years ago he was beating people
Speaker 1: like that and he was one on one. But he's
Speaker 1: not doing that right now. I mean, I don't know
Speaker 1: if it was just last night, but I haven't seen
Speaker 1: him really do that all year, where you know, it's
Speaker 1: just like my guys better than your guy, and you
Speaker 1: know he's getting tackled, he's not breaking those tackles and
Speaker 1: he's not really being that dynamic. Um, these fifty fifty
Speaker 1: balls are not fifty fifty. I mean that that would
Speaker 1: be a five hundred, you know, that would bet he's
Speaker 1: not catching him. I mean, I thought it was so telling.
Speaker 1: That was it? Was it the first possession after you know,
Speaker 1: after the long kick return, or it was early in
Speaker 1: the game. No, it was, yeah, the one the back
Speaker 1: shoulder ball. Was that the first possession that you know
Speaker 1: arguably you had interference? Oh? Yeah, that the first or
Speaker 1: second possession. I'm trying to remember. I don't remember which
Speaker 1: it was. The second possession of the game. They were
Speaker 1: down seven three, they go back down there, they get
Speaker 1: to the Philadelphia nine yard line. Oh, the third and seven? Yeah,
Speaker 1: well and whatever, the third and Seven's one thing I
Speaker 1: thought the play before that was even more telling that
Speaker 1: Dez scored on that ball against Savior Rohads last year.
Speaker 1: They threw it, you know, they love that play. He
Speaker 1: scored so many touchdowns on that play, and I just
Speaker 1: thought it seemed really telling that Ronald Derby tackled him
Speaker 1: by himself. I mean, Ronald Derby's a really good cornerback,
Speaker 1: but you expect as Bryant to break that tackle and
Speaker 1: he probably scores if he does. At this point, there's
Speaker 1: really not much you can do about that, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: the way your team is constructed, Dez is the best
Speaker 1: you got at wide receiver, and what we're seeing right
Speaker 1: now is that you're getting really not a lot of
Speaker 1: consistent production from anyone else. It was, I mean so
Speaker 1: telling that I get Jason Witten to catch the ball
Speaker 1: in the first I think it was the first offensive
Speaker 1: play of the game, seven yards, and they didn't He
Speaker 1: didn't get another ball the rest of the game. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's almost crazy to even think out that
Speaker 1: you got this tight end out here and you didn't
Speaker 1: find like, with your offense not even moving, you can't
Speaker 1: find another way to be able to get him more
Speaker 1: involved in the office and again, I know, I know
Speaker 1: without even having watched the tape that they probably kept
Speaker 1: their tight ends in an effort to help their offensive line.
Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean you just have to abandon the
Speaker 1: concept of them in the passing game, Like it doesn't
Speaker 1: make sense to me. You know, what I did see
Speaker 1: a lot of times is when they did have a
Speaker 1: tight what they did they put a tight end on
Speaker 1: the side of Byron Bell and he just chipped him
Speaker 1: on its way out, which was fine. That's all you
Speaker 1: needed to do is just give him a little bit
Speaker 1: of help and then going to your route. And that's
Speaker 1: what they didn't do last week. It seem like they
Speaker 1: did more of that this week. We'll talk a little
Speaker 1: bit about Byron Bell, but it seemed like he had
Speaker 1: a much better week than what Chaz Green had last year.
Speaker 1: Obviously statistically did. But I mean, when you think about it,
Speaker 1: I just don't I don't know how you don't get
Speaker 1: a guy like Jason Witten more involved in the offense,
Speaker 1: especially when it's struggling. That's an easy throw, right. It's
Speaker 1: almost like this is like a these are like just
Speaker 1: the coaching staff can only make extreme decisions. Like it's like, well,
Speaker 1: Chad Green's gonna play left tackle for Tyrant Smith, and like,
Speaker 1: we'll help him a little bit, but not really we
Speaker 1: trust him out there. He's on an island just like
Speaker 1: Tyrant is. Well, that didn't work at all and they
Speaker 1: didn't really adjust to it during the course of that game.
Speaker 1: And so they come out here and we're like, well,
Speaker 1: we're giving the left tackle help. That's what we're gonna
Speaker 1: help him on every single play. The tight end's gonna
Speaker 1: be there, the running back's gonna be there, We're gonna
Speaker 1: chip him. Just like there's no there's no malleability to
Speaker 1: the game planning, and it sure doesn't look that way.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's he threw thirty one passes, seventeen of
Speaker 1: them went to the rest of the team and fourteen
Speaker 1: go to Dez. I mean, fourteen targets to Dez totals
Speaker 1: sixty three yards. And that would be great if Dez
Speaker 1: was making great plays, right right, That's that's what you
Speaker 1: see from a number one receiver. You give him a
Speaker 1: bunch of targets and they made great plays. It's just
Speaker 1: you're not getting the great plays, right, Yeah, he has.
Speaker 1: He really has no you know, yard type to the
Speaker 1: catch his average yesterday average with seven point nine. But
Speaker 1: I mean, you know he's not he's not breaking any tackles,
Speaker 1: he's doing anything. So it does have any egregious drops. One,
Speaker 1: I think he had a drop, Terrence had a drop,
Speaker 1: and Cole had a well I know I was gonna say.
Speaker 1: I mean, Terrence obviously had his bobble, and then Cole
Speaker 1: Beasley dropped the first down. Yeah, I don't remember what down,
Speaker 1: that just third I think it was third down was
Speaker 1: one of Dak's best throws. An utter no show by
Speaker 1: everybody involved in the Dallas passing game. I mean, it
Speaker 1: was breathtakingly bad. And I'm like, maybe you're right. Maybe,
Speaker 1: and this is the twenty sixth ranked secondary in the NFL,
Speaker 1: but maybe the Eagles change it up. Maybe they thought
Speaker 1: they'd be able to stop the Dallas running game without
Speaker 1: really over committing to it. Dak said after the game
Speaker 1: that it really didn't look any different than what he
Speaker 1: was expecting, which I'll take him at his word. But
Speaker 1: if that's the case, I mean, forcing that ball to
Speaker 1: Dez and double coverage on a I mean, I know
Speaker 1: it's third down, but that's why Dak Prescott has been
Speaker 1: so good he hasn't done stuff like that, like live
Speaker 1: to fight another day if you have to. It's just
Speaker 1: it was everything about that was just incredibly a typical
Speaker 1: from what we've come to expect. I do wonder if
Speaker 1: part of that comes from, you know, him thinking, as
Speaker 1: we all thought, you got to take more of the
Speaker 1: load without Ezekiel Elliott out there, and maybe he tried
Speaker 1: to do a little too much because he felt like
Speaker 1: in order for the team to win, he had to
Speaker 1: do more in order to do it, rather than stay
Speaker 1: within the offense. Y'all. It can disagree with me if
Speaker 1: you want to, and I mean, there's certainly there's certainly
Speaker 1: validity to your point that the first down running is
Speaker 1: not as good without Zeke. But I bet if you
Speaker 1: told them before the game that they were going to
Speaker 1: run for one hundred yards as a team, they would
Speaker 1: feel pretty good about what they'd be able to do.
Speaker 1: I get all that. I think, to me, this is
Speaker 1: the exact same thing that happened to the Cowboys back
Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen, where you had a rusher who you
Speaker 1: look at his total numbers and you say they ran
Speaker 1: pretty good, but you watch the games and they were
Speaker 1: not able to run in situations where they needed to
Speaker 1: be able to run on first downs, short yardage like
Speaker 1: situations where they really need to be able to run
Speaker 1: the ball. They were having a hard time running the ball. Yes,
Speaker 1: they would get some of those hollow yards and they
Speaker 1: break off a big run here there, twenty yards, fourteen
Speaker 1: yards here, but it was not a consistent thing, and
Speaker 1: they were not able to run in situations where they
Speaker 1: really needed to. And again I'm not saying you're wrong,
Speaker 1: but the thing that stands out to me is just
Speaker 1: the miscues in the passing game. Not being able to
Speaker 1: connect with Dez on a back shoulder ball again, like two,
Speaker 1: how easy is it to throw a bubble screen? And
Speaker 1: like Dez was catching them off the carpet all night.
Speaker 1: Cole Beasley drops the third of what would have been
Speaker 1: a third down, Terrence Williams drops what turns into an
Speaker 1: interception that who knows how far that drive goes. Just
Speaker 1: that's what stands out to me as the real failures, right,
Speaker 1: especially like you go into these games without Ezekiel Elliott
Speaker 1: thinking this isn't gonna look as good as it would
Speaker 1: if Zeke was here. That's just a reality that you
Speaker 1: got a face. But you know, it's not like Denver
Speaker 1: where you're running for point zero one yards per carry. Like,
Speaker 1: if you're getting movement, you're making them respect your ability
Speaker 1: to run. Alfred Morris said, what a long of I mean,
Speaker 1: dam he had a couple when he was as longest
Speaker 1: one Yeah, twenty two. Yeah, I mean no, it certainly
Speaker 1: isn't as dominant as it looks when Zeke and Tirner
Speaker 1: in there. But I thought it was good enough, and
Speaker 1: I think at least score a touchdown. Yeah. Honestly, I
Speaker 1: think we're saying similar things. I think we're both pointing
Speaker 1: out two different flaws, and who knows which one had
Speaker 1: more of an effect on the game. I think they
Speaker 1: were both crippling to the offense, and I think both
Speaker 1: of them can't happen together. If one of those things
Speaker 1: happens and the other is really good, then you're okay.
Speaker 1: Like if he's only getting two yards on first down,
Speaker 1: but the passing game, like he says, doesn't have the miscus,
Speaker 1: you're probably okay. And the same the other way. If
Speaker 1: the running game is much better than you don't have
Speaker 1: so many opportunities where you're going to have those miscus
Speaker 1: in the passing game. You just can't have both. We're
Speaker 1: gonna take our first break when we come back. Let's
Speaker 1: jump into this defense. They played a really as Amber said,
Speaker 1: played a really great first half and then the wheels
Speaker 1: just came off. We'll talk about that when we come
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Speaker 1: It is the second second of the break flight from
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Speaker 1: before we jumped back into Cowboys Versus Eagles. I didn't
Speaker 1: want to throw something out there. We just got some
Speaker 1: really bad news here this morning. Former Cowboy and Patriot
Speaker 1: wide receiver Terry glenn Um was killed apparently last night.
Speaker 1: Died last night at Parkland Memorial Hospital from a motor
Speaker 1: vehicle accident about ten twelve fifty two am this morning.
Speaker 1: Glenn was a I mean, obviously pretty good receiver for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Uh probably, I would say the better part
Speaker 1: of his career was spent in New England, but was
Speaker 1: a good receiver for the Cowboys here for for several years. Nick,
Speaker 1: you've covered you covered him. Yeah. It was a good guy,
Speaker 1: good good player. Yeah, he definitely was. Was a good
Speaker 1: player as a guy that parcels brought in and you know,
Speaker 1: as a parcels guy and you know ironically the um
Speaker 1: the famous quote in New England when he said, you know,
Speaker 1: if they want you to, you know, cook the dinner,
Speaker 1: you should at least be able to buy the groceries. Well,
Speaker 1: it was about Terry Glenn. I mean that was kind
Speaker 1: of the issue there. I don't know if he really
Speaker 1: wanted him with the seventh overall pick, because it turned
Speaker 1: out he was a really good player for the Patriots
Speaker 1: and a guy that parcel became a parcels guy. He
Speaker 1: brought him in as a trade back in I think
Speaker 1: two thousand and three. He was a pretty good player
Speaker 1: there for Quincy Carter on that year they went to
Speaker 1: the playoffs and he and they paired him up I
Speaker 1: think with a Joey Galloway and then they were they
Speaker 1: were pretty good there for a little while. Um, but
Speaker 1: you know he was he was still a fast guy,
Speaker 1: speed guy. I remember being in the training camp two
Speaker 1: thousand and seven and that the year was like, all right,
Speaker 1: we're almost coming into his own. You know this this
Speaker 1: could be Reno TiO, this could be a really good offense.
Speaker 1: And I remember right in front of me he was like, man,
Speaker 1: I heard a pop like something. You know, he kind
Speaker 1: of limped off. He's like he told the trainer heard
Speaker 1: a pop. I don't know what happened. He didn't play
Speaker 1: again until the very last game of that season. He
Speaker 1: missed fifteen games and they played him in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: You know on that that interception Romo thrown in the
Speaker 1: indiends on against the Giants was actually going to Terry
Speaker 1: Glenn might have been the last game he played, I
Speaker 1: guess for the Cowboys, but didn't talk a lot, you know,
Speaker 1: it was kind of it was a little bit different guy.
Speaker 1: You know, he didn't talk much of the media. But
Speaker 1: a super fast player, really good and really productive. Great hands,
Speaker 1: great hands, yeah, unbelievable hands, and uh he really he was.
Speaker 1: He was a dynamic player. But all that being said,
Speaker 1: that's just about the player. It's really sad about anybody
Speaker 1: you know in a situation like that. And saw forty
Speaker 1: three years old. Yeah, tough news. Tough news. That's funny.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just you and Iron Price think, yeah, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's we were talking about it yesterday. You start getting
Speaker 1: up in age and you start people around you, you
Speaker 1: start hearing of debts of people that are younger than you,
Speaker 1: and it it certainly has a way of hitting home
Speaker 1: and you're letting you realize how fragile this thing called
Speaker 1: life really is. So I'll say the one thing about
Speaker 1: I remember he Shan Johnson talked about Terry Glynn. There
Speaker 1: are guys that would come in and run four two
Speaker 1: eight four three or whatever. You know. He's like, that's
Speaker 1: that's all nice and good. But players, some receivers don't
Speaker 1: know how to play that way. They don't know how
Speaker 1: to play fast. You can run fast, I don't want
Speaker 1: to track somewhere, you know, but not not really when
Speaker 1: you get on the field with pads on, are you
Speaker 1: playing that way? And Terry Glenn could play he had
Speaker 1: aggressive speed. He had to be that. You just had
Speaker 1: to you know, you had to be you know, be
Speaker 1: scared of. And everyone knows my favorite play, the flea flicker.
Speaker 1: The last time they've run it was to Terry Glenn
Speaker 1: against the Chiefs seventy one yard touchdown, drew bledsoe Terry Glenn.
Speaker 1: Time it worked that time, it should work most time.
Speaker 1: They haven't run a flea flicker in twelve years. I think,
Speaker 1: so wow, I really if they did, it kind of
Speaker 1: got blown up right now that they didn't have a
Speaker 1: big no I don't think they have. I really don't think.
Speaker 1: I know, they haven't been successful with it. All right, Well, Dad,
Speaker 1: thoughts and prayers out to Terry Glenn's family. Let's get
Speaker 1: back to Cowboys versus Eagles. We didn't have a chance
Speaker 1: to talk about the defense very much in that first
Speaker 1: segment yesterday. They get zero sacks, they get zero forced fumble,
Speaker 1: zero fumble recoveries. They do have six quarterback hits. But
Speaker 1: you know, we talked about it all last week. When
Speaker 1: you're playing against Carson Wentz, he is a big body
Speaker 1: guy and hitting him is not good enough taking him
Speaker 1: down as a chore, And there were several times last
Speaker 1: night when Cowboys defenders got to him but did not
Speaker 1: manage to even get close to getting him down. He'd
Speaker 1: move around and before you know it, he was away
Speaker 1: from them and being able to complete passes down field.
Speaker 1: Talk to me about how this defense performed overall, Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously without Sean Lee, you know, it's tough,
Speaker 1: and they were doing a nice job in the first
Speaker 1: half the Like you said, I don't remember exactly when
Speaker 1: Hitchins went out of the game. I don't, yeah, and
Speaker 1: I honestly don't either. I just started noticing that Jalen
Speaker 1: was out there more. It was third quarter and I
Speaker 1: was like, why are they still And they got Jalen
Speaker 1: out there with Grant. I was like, why is that happening?
Speaker 1: And then we couldn't find him on the sideline. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I think the Eagles made some adjustments. Obviously,
Speaker 1: they made adjustments and they realized where they could they
Speaker 1: could run the ball, and you know, they went in
Speaker 1: the third quarter, they really just started to gash them there. So, um,
Speaker 1: you know, it was it was a nice effort for
Speaker 1: the for the Cowboys in the first half. I thought
Speaker 1: they were flying around on the ball and secondary did
Speaker 1: a nice job and they got off the field at
Speaker 1: times there in that second quarter. But uh, you know,
Speaker 1: ultimately the Eagles kind of realized what how they could
Speaker 1: they could move it, and you know it it was
Speaker 1: kind of like the Falcons game. You know, it was
Speaker 1: just kind of a slow death. But we wake up
Speaker 1: after sixty minutes. He's like, dang, let's a blow out.
Speaker 1: The last time that I'm seeing on here, I'm looking
Speaker 1: at the stat sheet. Last time I see a play
Speaker 1: with Hitchens on It was the third and six from
Speaker 1: the Dallas eleven touchdown from Carson Wentz to Smith Tory Smith.
Speaker 1: It was eleven yard touchdown, and say it shows Anthony
Speaker 1: Hitchins as the defender that actually I guess made the
Speaker 1: tackle in the end zone. But but that was that's
Speaker 1: the last time I see him on the on the
Speaker 1: injury port. So maybe it happened on that play or
Speaker 1: a play subsequent to that, but that's about the end
Speaker 1: that the was that the roughly about midway through the
Speaker 1: third quarter when they lost him. He ain't playing this week. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I saw him last night in the locker room. The
Speaker 1: way he was walking. If he plays this week, they
Speaker 1: got some really really good drugs, Like he was just
Speaker 1: walking like the way he was walking. Obviously it's a
Speaker 1: groin injury and he was barely kind of shuffling along.
Speaker 1: It did not look good and it looked very painful.
Speaker 1: Dan Bailey's been gone for a month with a groin
Speaker 1: and Tyrn Smith has been out for two weeks with
Speaker 1: a groin. I know, no two injuries are created equal,
Speaker 1: but to think somebody can play on three and a
Speaker 1: half days from that, no way. But my main thing is,
Speaker 1: and you know, I'm maybe I'm an apologist for the
Speaker 1: defense in the sense that, like I just have a
Speaker 1: hard time just beating them up, knowing going in, first
Speaker 1: of all, they're not great to begin with, and they
Speaker 1: also don't have their best player. I get it, no
Speaker 1: excuses all that, but it reminds me a lot of
Speaker 1: the Rams game in a sense that I mean, they
Speaker 1: gave you a window to do something, and that's about
Speaker 1: as much as I could ask for. I know, in
Speaker 1: a perfect world they're great all the time, and they
Speaker 1: hold the Eagles to ten offensive points like they did
Speaker 1: with the Chiefs. But I mean after the opening touchdown,
Speaker 1: the Eagles go five plays, four plays, three plays, three plays,
Speaker 1: three plays, three plays. I mean that's six possessions in
Speaker 1: a row where they really didn't move the ball at all,
Speaker 1: and maybe if your offense is better, it allows you
Speaker 1: to build a lead, maybe even a double digit lead.
Speaker 1: Like I said, of course, the way the Eagles move
Speaker 1: the ball in the second half, maybe it looks a
Speaker 1: lot like the Rams game and it evaporates. But you
Speaker 1: at least could have given yourself a puncher's chance and
Speaker 1: missed opportunities, not missed opportunities by the offense. But then
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown maybe catch that interception. Maybe what was that
Speaker 1: if if you make even a decent effort at intercepting
Speaker 1: that ball, you might score a touchdown. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: you can't assume too much, but it certainly looked like
Speaker 1: he had the real estate to do it. Just missed opportunity.
Speaker 1: I mean, you could have gone You could have gone
Speaker 1: into halftime. They were up nine to seven at half.
Speaker 1: Ye could have gone into halftime up I mean at
Speaker 1: minimum sixteen seven, which is two possessions, or maybe even
Speaker 1: twenty three. I mean again, six possessions in a row
Speaker 1: where you're over seven. Oh, because you missed way two.
Speaker 1: I mean that's fair based on what they looked like.
Speaker 1: But you would like to think as as solid as
Speaker 1: this offense has been for the majority of the season,
Speaker 1: you I mean six six there? Oh, hey, that is
Speaker 1: that's my recorder. I was wondering about that, Dave. Oh,
Speaker 1: I look like an idiot. Manage to get yourself on TV?
Speaker 1: And so as I knew, like I try to stay
Speaker 1: out from Jerry because you when if you behind Jerry,
Speaker 1: you're gonna wind up on TV. But I just didn't
Speaker 1: have a choice. And you know, the worst feeling in
Speaker 1: the world is just you're trying to get into the scrum,
Speaker 1: and then the worst feeling in the world is to
Speaker 1: look up all of a sudden realize, oh I'm behind,
Speaker 1: Oh god, I'm gonna be on camera, and you know,
Speaker 1: and then you gotta sit there the whole time, like,
Speaker 1: look interested, don't look like you're looking at the wrong
Speaker 1: thing or thinking about the wrong thing. Just pay attention.
Speaker 1: And somebody in the scrum said something that made me
Speaker 1: laugh last night, and I was like, that's gonna look
Speaker 1: great on TV. Like I'm just laughing while the owner
Speaker 1: of the team's talking about how terrible this game is
Speaker 1: or something. I don't know, right, but I mean six
Speaker 1: possessions in a row where one of the best offenses
Speaker 1: in the league wasn't doing anything. You Like, I said,
Speaker 1: maybe you don't win the game, but you'd like to
Speaker 1: think that you could have made some hay during that
Speaker 1: stretch in the second quarter. Yep, Anthony Hitchins led the
Speaker 1: team with five tackles last night, and obviously now he's
Speaker 1: going to assume he's going to be out on Thursday.
Speaker 1: What do they do at this point, because I don't
Speaker 1: know if it doesn't sound like this is a situation
Speaker 1: where Lee is going to be prepared to come back
Speaker 1: by Thursday? Um, what do they do right now? Do
Speaker 1: you do you know that? Like? I don't know that. No,
Speaker 1: it sounded like it was going to be a longer
Speaker 1: period of time than just this this game. But I
Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe maybe he is. You guys tell me
Speaker 1: I don't either. I just I don't know. Um, I'm
Speaker 1: not going to rule it out here on Monday morning
Speaker 1: before I've had a chance to hear anything. But I mean,
Speaker 1: it is a soft tissue injury. It doesn't seem likely.
Speaker 1: Maybe if they were playing Sunday, he'd have a better chance.
Speaker 1: But he missed two games with the injury before, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: two games, and I mean he missed really, so he's
Speaker 1: just missed a game and a half here. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: doesn't really look good. I guess it's not a good
Speaker 1: bet to think he'll be ready to go. So what
Speaker 1: do you do? Do they need to bring in guys
Speaker 1: or do they have enough bodies? And then it's just
Speaker 1: a matter of how do those bodies play? Well? They
Speaker 1: have play? Um without those two guys before, right, didn't
Speaker 1: look very good? No, they didn't actually no, um, no,
Speaker 1: Green Bay the Rams, right, they didn't have Hitchens came
Speaker 1: back for Green Bay and Lee got hurt during the
Speaker 1: Cardinals game, so they didn't have either for the Rams,
Speaker 1: which you know that doesn't look good. I mean, I
Speaker 1: mean good defense obviously shut them down last night or
Speaker 1: yesterday seven fights against Minnesota. Theoretically they have the bodies,
Speaker 1: but I don't like how okay, I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: how in good conscience can you go into the game
Speaker 1: with just that? But like, also, what do you do
Speaker 1: You're on a short week here, Like what is somebody
Speaker 1: who's not here going to do for you right now?
Speaker 1: I mean, really, well, you can have McFadden spot. I
Speaker 1: mean they could have that. I mean they were going
Speaker 1: there and just we were going there next day. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean that's a spot that that that could be
Speaker 1: open if they need to go good I guess I
Speaker 1: guess My point is, I mean, unless Luke Keekley's coming in,
Speaker 1: Like who's going to get ready in three and a
Speaker 1: half days. I think Luke has a team right now.
Speaker 1: I know, yeah, and I'm aware of that, thank you,
Speaker 1: m Navarro Bowman. He's got a busy to still out
Speaker 1: that now they're a guy on the practice squad. I
Speaker 1: don't think they have. I mean, you only have ten.
Speaker 1: You only have ten spots on your practice squad. You
Speaker 1: can't have a linebacker. I don't believe they have a
Speaker 1: linebacker on their practice squad. So so you're right, you'd
Speaker 1: have to go out and find somebody, bring them in,
Speaker 1: get them acclimated to be able to play on Thursday.
Speaker 1: It's a lot that's not smart at all when you
Speaker 1: have a guy that was retired twice, a guy that
Speaker 1: gets hurt a lot, and Sean Lee a guy that
Speaker 1: gets hurt pretty often, and Anthony Hitchins and a guy
Speaker 1: that's really nine hundred percent, and Jalen Smith and the
Speaker 1: practice I'm sorry, what do we got? Ty VI Johnson?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he joined the team. That's it? Like, well,
Speaker 1: that's a pretty smart but they got a guy. They
Speaker 1: got a guy that at least has been here and
Speaker 1: kind of knows. Maybe what's I apologize? Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: that would not make sense to have ten guys on
Speaker 1: your practice squad and really not have a lot of
Speaker 1: those positions covered. So I apologize. Trey Villon Johnson, Keith Smith, Ah,
Speaker 1: in an emergency situation. I'm sure they did that earlier
Speaker 1: this year. They had him practiced there. But I mean
Speaker 1: so Jalen Durant, Justin Marshall, Lillard, Kyle Wilber, maybe Keith Smith.
Speaker 1: Am I forgetting anybody? Oh, Damien Wilson. I mean so
Speaker 1: I'm assuming pers only scored fifty four? Yes, yeah, what
Speaker 1: in all their offense, but which it's a lot of perntsuf.
Speaker 1: I don't care who are you playing and under what circumstances.
Speaker 1: That's a lot of points. In turn, he didn't he didn't.
Speaker 1: I don't know about the impact place. He didn't have
Speaker 1: the sack or the near interception. But when Hitchens was
Speaker 1: still on the field, it sure seemed like Jalen Smith
Speaker 1: was playing one of his better games. Like he had
Speaker 1: a nice thump on a on an out route and
Speaker 1: he chased. I mean the guy got six or seven yards,
Speaker 1: but like he made that type of play where you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: this guy's got some range to come across the field
Speaker 1: and make a tackle. And then Anthony went out and
Speaker 1: the rest is history. And I mean that's just the
Speaker 1: epitome of this Dallas defenses. And like you know, I
Speaker 1: called Chaz Green flex seal, like they're just held together
Speaker 1: by like duct tape. And all it takes is one thing,
Speaker 1: and it just kind of falls apart crazy parts. There's
Speaker 1: so many guys on the offense and defense that you
Speaker 1: could afford to lose and still be able to function.
Speaker 1: And the Cowboys have lost all the other guys, the
Speaker 1: guys that really you can't function without that their best
Speaker 1: players seem to be the players that they continuously are losing.
Speaker 1: And again, that's just the nature of the NFL. Nobody
Speaker 1: feels sorry for you, It's just what happens in the NFL.
Speaker 1: And this is one of those years for the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Nobody feels sorry for you. And you know, I'm echo
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm probably echoing a lot of fans here.
Speaker 1: I know what a phenomenal player Shan Lee is, and
Speaker 1: I think Anthony Hitchins is the most underrated player on
Speaker 1: the team. But it's amazing the difference between how solid
Speaker 1: they can look with that one guy on the field
Speaker 1: and how utterly happen less they are. But doesn't that
Speaker 1: also tell you just how close how close margin yeah,
Speaker 1: between these teams, Like it's just it's not as big
Speaker 1: a difference as people want to believe. There are two
Speaker 1: or three teams in this league that are far below
Speaker 1: everybody else. There are two three teams that are far
Speaker 1: above everybody else. Everybody else. That margin is so so small.
Speaker 1: You take out a significant player like Sean Lee, and then,
Speaker 1: by the way, take out another significant player like Tyren Smith,
Speaker 1: and then another significant player like Ezekiel Elliott, and guess
Speaker 1: what that's probably what you're gonna get is a much
Speaker 1: different looking team than what you had before. The counter argument,
Speaker 1: of course, being that the Eagles appear to be humming
Speaker 1: and just fine without Jason Peters and Jordan Hicks, who
Speaker 1: they lost for the season during the course, and then
Speaker 1: they lost somebody else too, didn't they another really good sproles?
Speaker 1: That's who is which you know, and that type of
Speaker 1: stuff happens. The Cowboys lost Shawn Lee in twenty fourteen,
Speaker 1: and Rolando McClean stepped right up in his place. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's there's big picture stuff you can talk about. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, did this team really do enough work at
Speaker 1: linebacker in the offseason to like ensure themselves. It doesn't
Speaker 1: look that way. I Mean the counter argument that to
Speaker 1: that is, is it really fair to expect that not
Speaker 1: just I mean, Shaun Lee's got his injury history too,
Speaker 1: But Shawn Lee and Anthony Hitchins both now have been
Speaker 1: severely laid low by injuries. Jalen Smith hasn't gotten to
Speaker 1: where they hope they would be. You could have foreseen
Speaker 1: a decent amount of this coming, but at some point,
Speaker 1: it's just a lot of stuff going Again. Here's the
Speaker 1: other thing to consider too, though you mentioned you know,
Speaker 1: they're a linebacker. The Eagles linebackers nowhere near being their
Speaker 1: best defensive player. Right if they lost Fletcher Cox, now
Speaker 1: we may be talking about a different defense. Then maybe
Speaker 1: that's the problem here. I mean, I mean, how many
Speaker 1: teams lose their weak side linebacker and then just all
Speaker 1: hell breaks loose. I mean that that's the problem they
Speaker 1: they have, that they're too dependent on a guy that's
Speaker 1: not very dependable. And and then you know, you're right,
Speaker 1: the Eagles, they're they're badasses up front, you know, making
Speaker 1: Zach Martin looked bad at times, Travis Frederick and those
Speaker 1: guys like there. I mean, that's how good he is.
Speaker 1: And the Cowboys best players is a weak side linebacker,
Speaker 1: and that you can't always the line that has a
Speaker 1: history of injuries. Yeah, yeah, So the structure of the
Speaker 1: defense maybe is not what it needs to be. And
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously they've tried to get some help there
Speaker 1: and defensive line, and they've made a lot of efforts
Speaker 1: to get some pass right and the defensive line is
Speaker 1: better this year. We've got to give him credit for that.
Speaker 1: They didn't get the sacks yesterday. They've as a season,
Speaker 1: as a season has progressed, They've been as good as
Speaker 1: they've been in a long time. Along the defense in front.
Speaker 1: They have not been the weakness that was going to
Speaker 1: kill the team that everybody thought they would be. I'll
Speaker 1: give him that. Let's take our final break. We'll come back.
Speaker 1: We do need to talk a little bit about Darren McFadden.
Speaker 1: I know Nick's waiting to talk about that. We'll take
Speaker 1: some side. Really, we'll take some time to get into
Speaker 1: that a little bit. When we come back. We'll also
Speaker 1: get some questions. Call us two four eighty seven to
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Speaker 1: of the break Lap from the SWBC Mortgage Studio is
Speaker 1: out of the Star. Nick take it away? All right, Well,
Speaker 1: we use this one last week, but it seems relevant
Speaker 1: as well. I mean Tommy John. With Tommy John, there's
Speaker 1: no adjustment needed. You don't have to adjust anything, you know,
Speaker 1: and that's kind of like a game plane. You just
Speaker 1: throw it out there. Whatever it is is the way
Speaker 1: it is, and you don't have to mess with it
Speaker 1: and think about it. And that's really the problem with
Speaker 1: this team, and we've seen the last two weeks they
Speaker 1: don't adjust. Well, that's what Tommy John gives you two
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Speaker 1: Good for underwear, no, no bo Good for football, bad
Speaker 1: for underwear. That's what I meant. Adjustment Is it good
Speaker 1: for oh oh? I thought you're saying not adjusting. Yes,
Speaker 1: adjustments are good for football, bad for runner. I mean
Speaker 1: it would be nice to just kind of you know,
Speaker 1: those good high school teams. I have six players and
Speaker 1: they just says, well we do. We're not worried about it.
Speaker 1: Be nice? You can't. Can you want to talk about
Speaker 1: McFadden ahead? If you had another topic, we can we
Speaker 1: talk about that. I mean, and I agree, I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to defend anybody associated with that game,
Speaker 1: but you know that's the like, that's the big thing
Speaker 1: is like they didn't make any adjustments. And they didn't
Speaker 1: and I'm not defending them, but like, what what could
Speaker 1: they have adjusted? Do y'all think? Like what did they
Speaker 1: not do that you would have liked to have seen?
Speaker 1: And again, like if it sounds like I'm defending them,
Speaker 1: I'm not. It really it legitimately perplexes me too, because
Speaker 1: I sit there and I'm like, well, is there is
Speaker 1: there an adjustment that they can make that's gonna allow
Speaker 1: them to stop the number four rushing offense in the
Speaker 1: league from taking advantage of the fact that two of
Speaker 1: their best players are out. My justice would have been offensive.
Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys should have done different things. More
Speaker 1: things were using a quarterback getting him moved around. I
Speaker 1: think that would have been a better option for them,
Speaker 1: and it would have I think netted them more production. Offensively,
Speaker 1: They got to be more creative when they don't have
Speaker 1: their best offensive player, or really they're two top offensive players,
Speaker 1: they got to be more creative. They are not good
Speaker 1: enough to just say we'll line up with the guys,
Speaker 1: next man up, and we'll just line up and do
Speaker 1: what we did before. You can't do that. They don't
Speaker 1: have the ability. There is a fine line up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: next man up just means he's got to fill the spot. Now.
Speaker 1: The coaches need to figure out how to get that
Speaker 1: guy an opportunity because he's not as good as the
Speaker 1: guy whose place he's taken, or he'd be playing out
Speaker 1: there everything. And it's a it's not an indictment of
Speaker 1: the guy that has to do that to change the
Speaker 1: way you're playing, you know, like sorry, that's just the
Speaker 1: nature of it. And yeah, there's a fine line between
Speaker 1: having confidence in your guys and to quote Garrett, putting
Speaker 1: them in the best position to succeed like they have
Speaker 1: him been putting guys in positions to succeed in my opinion, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I mean, yeah, it's the word adjustment is thrown
Speaker 1: around so often, and I think it's important to like
Speaker 1: take a step back and think about that offensively, for sure,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what type of adjustments
Speaker 1: I make to fix this defense mid game. You know,
Speaker 1: they honestly, in my opinion, I agree with Amber. They
Speaker 1: really kind of played above their heads the first half.
Speaker 1: I mean, and that's why the offense got to be
Speaker 1: looking at the game saying we squandered an opportunity because
Speaker 1: the defense gave them an opportunity if they could have
Speaker 1: gotten things going to be able to have a lead
Speaker 1: lead going into the half, so that when the Eagles
Speaker 1: came out and made the run, which we all knew
Speaker 1: a run was gonna come. When they came out and
Speaker 1: made the run, maybe you already had enough points to
Speaker 1: where you could just kind of stave them off and
Speaker 1: give yourself a chance to win. They didn't take advantage
Speaker 1: of the opportunity was presented to them by the defense
Speaker 1: in the first half. Well, you know, Davey asked what
Speaker 1: kind of adjustment the should have made should I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm not that far in advance to know what kind
Speaker 1: of adjustments should have been made. All I do know
Speaker 1: is that they're not making any. When you see both
Speaker 1: teams come out in the second half and clearly perform
Speaker 1: completely different than they did in the first half and
Speaker 1: being able to kind of keep everything going. That's something
Speaker 1: that obviously we've seen the Cowboys they been struggling with that.
Speaker 1: And you guys want to talk about the defense, and
Speaker 1: I see everyone, you know, talk about defense and not
Speaker 1: having Sean Lee and not having Anthony Hitchens. Now let's
Speaker 1: talk about the offense again, Like if you're not scoring points,
Speaker 1: you're not going anywhere. And this is just I'm just
Speaker 1: upset right now. I'm trying to filter myself and not
Speaker 1: kind of go all out. But again, I was somewhat
Speaker 1: pleased with what the offensive line was doing. And you
Speaker 1: within get to talk about Byron Bell. You guys, you
Speaker 1: Dave kept talking about that tape that would help Byron
Speaker 1: you know, the duct tape or whatever. Yeah, it's called
Speaker 1: Chas Green that Iron Bell did that last night and
Speaker 1: he was able to handle that. And again, I don't
Speaker 1: know what's going on. They really too. That's funny really
Speaker 1: when you think about it, how good this offense was
Speaker 1: last year, how good this offense has been during most
Speaker 1: of the time this year. To say, in the last
Speaker 1: two games, again without Ezekuel Elliott, they have managed a
Speaker 1: grand total of sixteen offensive points and only one touchdown
Speaker 1: in two games. That to me, and that's why I
Speaker 1: opened the show with the question, I think you have
Speaker 1: to start looking at the fact that Ezekiel Elliott makes
Speaker 1: that big of a difference for this offense until I
Speaker 1: see otherwise, and you say, can a running back really
Speaker 1: make that big of a difference? Nick, you talked about
Speaker 1: a few weeks ago. We saw this happen a long
Speaker 1: time ago, back in the nineties where the Cowboys entered
Speaker 1: a season without em and Smith, and that offense was
Speaker 1: a good offense without him and Smith, they weren't winning,
Speaker 1: and he came back and then all of a sudden
Speaker 1: they go on a run. I think it can happen
Speaker 1: when you have a great running Okay, but who cares.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's over right now. He's not coming back
Speaker 1: for a month, so like you can't worry. I mean, yes,
Speaker 1: he's great, he's he's it's you know, we've answered the
Speaker 1: question about last year, was it Dak or was it Zeke? Okay,
Speaker 1: question has been answered that is Dak better than wins?
Speaker 1: A question has been answered. We get it now, So
Speaker 1: now they got to figure out what, like you said earlier,
Speaker 1: this this offensive coordinator Scott Linahan, and this team needs
Speaker 1: to figure out ways to get these guys involved. And
Speaker 1: it's not just throwing the ball over the deads and
Speaker 1: just say be a beast and beat the guy because
Speaker 1: you're not letting round Darby. You know he what is
Speaker 1: he five four? And you can't you can't make a
Speaker 1: play on him. And then they throw the ball up
Speaker 1: in the air and he just kind of chucks him out.
Speaker 1: You know. I mean, it's gonna be a big beast.
Speaker 1: You gotta play like one. You know something that's interesting though,
Speaker 1: You mentioned Dak versus Wentz, and I think they flipped
Speaker 1: spots because last year Wentz didn't have the players around
Speaker 1: him in order for him to be successful. What did
Speaker 1: the Eagles go out this offseason? Due they went out
Speaker 1: and surrounded him with a bunch of weapons. You think
Speaker 1: about what they did not just in the off season.
Speaker 1: Then they get to a couple of weeks ago and
Speaker 1: they go out and get JAYGII to add to their
Speaker 1: running like they have surrounded him with a ton of weapons,
Speaker 1: and the Cowboys, due to other things, have Zekiel it's
Speaker 1: not on the field, Tyrn's not on the field. You
Speaker 1: want to know why their left tackle is working. Is
Speaker 1: because they got receivers out there who can get open
Speaker 1: and as alshon Jeffrey Show yesterday, even when they're not open,
Speaker 1: you put a ball in the right spot, he'll get
Speaker 1: it and score touchdown. How saying that we had a
Speaker 1: shovels with that, that could be a problem there in
Speaker 1: the press box, But that's my point is that they
Speaker 1: really they've surrounded him with enough playmakers to where it's
Speaker 1: not just about Carson Wentz anymore. He has skill, no
Speaker 1: doubt about it, but they've gotten some really good players
Speaker 1: around him. You kind of get the vibe from the
Speaker 1: coaching staff and the way that they've put this team together.
Speaker 1: Like there's definitely a vibe around the Cowboys. I think
Speaker 1: that that they're the smartest guys in the room. You know,
Speaker 1: they're like, we get like, we we got this Rod
Speaker 1: Smith is he's he's good stuff. Gonna be surprised how
Speaker 1: good this guy is and yeah, and you're like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, we just get get me to that point.
Speaker 1: But but just like we've we've covered you know, we've
Speaker 1: covered our bases. We're good. Whereas mean, while like the
Speaker 1: Eagles are doing this like obvious stuff, and you're like,
Speaker 1: it almost seems desperate that they're like just trying to
Speaker 1: accrue all of these guys to help Carson Wentz, Well,
Speaker 1: it turns out you need that stuff and if your
Speaker 1: frontline option goes down, uh, you know something, Alfred Morris
Speaker 1: rod Smith there McFadden like, it sounds like good, and
Speaker 1: I mean it sounds logical on the surface, but then
Speaker 1: you get into the games and you see that you're mistaken.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's certainly what it looks like right now.
Speaker 1: I mean maybe those moves weren't as smart as they
Speaker 1: looked four or five months ago. Yeah, I mean we
Speaker 1: can get into I guess the McFadden part there. I
Speaker 1: mean people on Twitter were like, am I okay? But
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I'm fine. I what I don't understand
Speaker 1: if you were Yeah, you're like, anyone heard about him?
Speaker 1: You know, anyone heard from him? I mean I talked
Speaker 1: to McFadden on Friday or Thursday. He says he's had
Speaker 1: he's had a pretty good week of practice and he's
Speaker 1: excited about it. The issue is that the Cowboys keeps saying,
Speaker 1: we've got to get back to work. Guy, get to work.
Speaker 1: Because what Jason always says, well, if you're practicing a
Speaker 1: player who's done a nice job and it sounds like
Speaker 1: he's he is going to you know, he's a part
Speaker 1: of the game plan, and then you don't play him,
Speaker 1: then then you're he's taking reps away from somebody. I
Speaker 1: mean rod Smith, great story. You know, Jalen's brother and
Speaker 1: he Oh, this guy's surprised, But really, what has he
Speaker 1: ever done to deserve this this type of opportunity? I
Speaker 1: mean he had I mean what has he done? He
Speaker 1: hasn't really done anything. He's getting an opportunity. He hasn't
Speaker 1: done anything with it in the two games so far,
Speaker 1: and it's just like, I mean, why wouldn't you want
Speaker 1: to go with a guy that can, that has he's
Speaker 1: been proven, and he's been proven like two years ago.
Speaker 1: You know, he's not like he's just ten years ago.
Speaker 1: He's been proven. So I don't understand why you practice
Speaker 1: the guy you don't play him. You need something kind
Speaker 1: of spark in the running game, and you're not giving
Speaker 1: him the shot and you get him to rod Smith
Speaker 1: because maybe because but maybe it's because they feel like
Speaker 1: from what they've seen from Darren McFadden didn't have it anymore, right,
Speaker 1: and then cut him. Yeah, I get you just cut him.
Speaker 1: But that's my thing about the running back position. That's
Speaker 1: why I would have preferred them to have instead of
Speaker 1: having two old backs who did it back in the day,
Speaker 1: get a little more of a get a young guy
Speaker 1: in there that at least has pride, legs and his
Speaker 1: hungry and let's see what he can do behind this
Speaker 1: offensive line that seems to work a lot of times
Speaker 1: in the NFL. You just throw a young guy out
Speaker 1: there and at least for a game or two, he
Speaker 1: can get you some good production and and you're like,
Speaker 1: oh wow, where does this guy come from? That? So
Speaker 1: it happened with the Green Bay Packers earlier this year.
Speaker 1: There's a guy in Baltimore doing the same things. That's
Speaker 1: games like that does the kid from A and M'm
Speaker 1: on the practice squad, Trey Williams Just I mean, seriously,
Speaker 1: at this point, I'd rather have him in the game
Speaker 1: then and have somebody, you know, young with with with
Speaker 1: fresh legs. I mean, I mean, I just don't know
Speaker 1: what's happening with McFadden. But but it's one thing just
Speaker 1: to not practice him. But he practiced more this week.
Speaker 1: He was doing some things to be involved, and then
Speaker 1: you know, I just don't think they're telling everything what's
Speaker 1: going on. I mean, does it come down to the
Speaker 1: difference between winning and losing? But but no, but it doesn't.
Speaker 1: It's certainly baffling though, Like and it doesn't. It doesn't
Speaker 1: make sense. I said that last. I mean, here, I
Speaker 1: was thinking they were keeping him fresh because they thought
Speaker 1: Zeke would eventually have to serve this suspension. That's clearly
Speaker 1: not the case. And I why why is he on
Speaker 1: the roster if he's inactive in a game where Ezekiel
Speaker 1: Ellie's suspended, Like, it doesn't make sense. It's very bizarre,
Speaker 1: and you want to say, well, you know, maybe two
Speaker 1: games in five days. You know you're playing someone Thursday.
Speaker 1: They want him to have fresh on Thursday. I mean
Speaker 1: that sounded logical too, but I don't really believe it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it doesn't make sense. I mean, he got
Speaker 1: one carry in Atlanta. Am I really supposed to believe
Speaker 1: he would have suddenly had thirty in this game and
Speaker 1: then he wouldn't be fresh for the Chargers. I don't
Speaker 1: think so. But I don't win the game Thursday, though.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're just gonna I'm gonna throw that out
Speaker 1: there right now. I wouldn't be remotely surprised, honestly, basically,
Speaker 1: like what I've learned back to Thanksgiving. There, it's upsets
Speaker 1: every time on Thanksgiving, I hear you all. The only
Speaker 1: thing I keep about it is they put up fifty yesterday,
Speaker 1: And now you're telling me the top two linebackers, not
Speaker 1: just the top one linebacker, the top two linebackers are
Speaker 1: gonna be out of the game LT running for them.
Speaker 1: It's certainly not gone. But they got a pretty good
Speaker 1: runner over there, like yeah, and with the how the
Speaker 1: offense is playing, I mean I would be watching the game,
Speaker 1: Oh cool, the offense is in awesome, this is this
Speaker 1: is it? This is it. Guy's okay. Next thing I know,
Speaker 1: I take a drink. Oh shoot, the offense is coming out.
Speaker 1: Here's the defense coming back in the field like it wasn't.
Speaker 1: In and out, in and out. That's you're saying. You're
Speaker 1: drinking up there water start. I was about to say
Speaker 1: it might not be a bad idea yesterday, and I didn't.
Speaker 1: It didn't affect me at all, um, But but I
Speaker 1: did hear like early on, like about an hour or
Speaker 1: two after the game, which is still pretty early on. Um,
Speaker 1: both kegs in the press box like literally gone gone,
Speaker 1: like it was like all I have to look forward
Speaker 1: to after a game like that is the knowledge that
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be able to drink a beer on my
Speaker 1: way out of the stadium, and just kind of they
Speaker 1: were gone, all gone, all gone. Drinking. Drinking was happening earlier, Yeah, everybody, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they were pounding some bruise just one of those nights. Well,
Speaker 1: yeah it was. And I don't know that your point
Speaker 1: really resonated with me right there, which Okay, I always
Speaker 1: knew how much ezekiel Elli had meant to this offense,
Speaker 1: and like his success and Dak's success went go hand
Speaker 1: in hand. But I have seen enough really amazingly good
Speaker 1: play from Dak Prescott that I never would have thought
Speaker 1: that it would look this bad without Zeke. I mean,
Speaker 1: I agree, like I said, I mean, two games in
Speaker 1: a row. Now, the running game hasn't been pretty, but
Speaker 1: it's been there. They've gone over one hundred yards and
Speaker 1: both of their games without Zeke, and it's just that's
Speaker 1: the nature of this offensive line. Though they're good enough
Speaker 1: for you to get some you're gonna pop a couple
Speaker 1: plays here and there. Right, I've seen I've seen enough
Speaker 1: good decision making, improvisation, and I mean great throws, Like really,
Speaker 1: I mean, he's an accurate quarterback. He's made some fantastic
Speaker 1: throws in his career. I'm not saying he's all the
Speaker 1: way there yet. He's certainly not Aaron Rodgers. But I've
Speaker 1: seen Dak play well enough often enough that I really
Speaker 1: am surprised by how bad it has looked these last
Speaker 1: two games, first of which I really have a hard
Speaker 1: time putting on him, but last night, I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: looking around for somebody else to blame, and I don't
Speaker 1: know where else to put it other than to think,
Speaker 1: man Ezekiel Elliott really is a valuable valuable player. You
Speaker 1: know what's really sad is that it's like third and
Speaker 1: eight and at the or third and seven, maybe from
Speaker 1: the nine, and like when there's a time out in
Speaker 1: the field, like Dave tweets out, I don't really like
Speaker 1: the back shoulder fade, but I don't see any other
Speaker 1: play that would really work, you know, and you're thinking, Okay, well,
Speaker 1: you know that's why you don't. You're not paid to
Speaker 1: do that. These people that are paid six figures to
Speaker 1: go do that, and they come out and they fell
Speaker 1: back shoulder fade a days, it goes out of bounds,
Speaker 1: and it's like, you know, if you think that, because
Speaker 1: you don't really see another play, and the Eagles probably
Speaker 1: are like, you know what, what's really gonna hurt us
Speaker 1: here other than a pass the desk? So let's make
Speaker 1: sure and stop that. I mean, yeah, that's kind of
Speaker 1: the sad part is is that we shouldn't be calling
Speaker 1: plays like that. How about how about, like you know,
Speaker 1: like the NFL is a copycat league, get that that
Speaker 1: throwback to Brent Selik into the playbook. Where's that type
Speaker 1: of play? You know, and that's the type of thing.
Speaker 1: That's the type of thing I expected to see, Like
Speaker 1: get your tight ends involved in a like you know,
Speaker 1: maybe you're the third option, maybe you roll out on
Speaker 1: a delayed screen after a play action fake or something like,
Speaker 1: you didn't see any of that. The lower the quality
Speaker 1: of your players, the way more creative you've got to
Speaker 1: be with what you do with But they don't appear
Speaker 1: to think that they don't, and they appear to think
Speaker 1: that they can line up and go. That's what happened
Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen, the same thing. You just keep banging
Speaker 1: your head on the wall and you're like, guess what,
Speaker 1: you've lost six in a row. Yeah, switch it up.
Speaker 1: All right, Thank you guys for joining us. We are
Speaker 1: back tomorrow. We'll be at our normal time at nine thirty.
Speaker 1: We'll tell you guys, we'll start getting you ready actually,
Speaker 1: because this game's coming up fast. Well, good, look at
Speaker 1: the San Diego Charger offense versus the Cowboys defense. We'll
Speaker 1: do that tomorrow. Till then, for Nick, even Dave Helmet,
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