WEBVTT - Hour 2 - Mark Giangreco (05-01-20)

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna make some assumptions. Jo, It's the Dan Patrick Show.

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<v Speaker 1>Dun Gottlie Fox Sports Radio hosts. We have to stop

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<v Speaker 1>this nonsense about the Packers somehow disrespecting Aaron Rodgers. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>this is just my opinion. They gave him more money

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<v Speaker 1>than any player in the history of the sport just

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<v Speaker 1>last year. Bringing you the biggest guests. Doug and I

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<v Speaker 1>will never agree on things and better opinions, all right, Wilbon,

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<v Speaker 1>let me start there. It's leavable arrogance. It just is.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you handle it differently? Do people never learn anything

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<v Speaker 1>about the way you handle something? Apparently not broadcasting from

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<v Speaker 1>the Mercedes Man Cave. This is Dan Patrick. Boy. I

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<v Speaker 1>hope you have YouTube to watch the display that I

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<v Speaker 1>just put on. During the commercial break on radio, we

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<v Speaker 1>were doing cornhole. PAULI and I were out in the

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<v Speaker 1>field house and we're throwing the bags. There a little cornhole.

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<v Speaker 1>Cavella sent us some cornhole, and I put on a clinic,

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<v Speaker 1>dusted Pauli off, and then did a walk off behind

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<v Speaker 1>the back cornhole and I was ready to leave the building,

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<v Speaker 1>and I realized I had two more hours to do. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>fellas for the rest of the danis this is a

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<v Speaker 1>direct hit because I pride myself on backyard games with

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<v Speaker 1>a beer in one hand, with my athletic ability. Corn

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<v Speaker 1>Hole's really all I got left. And Dan, who says

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<v Speaker 1>air quotes, he's never played it before. He put two

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<v Speaker 1>in the hole and then they put eight on his

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<v Speaker 1>first run, and then he went behind the back and

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<v Speaker 1>drilled one. Is that good? Like what I did? Is

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<v Speaker 1>that considered good? I'm not quite sure. Still only counts

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<v Speaker 1>for the same points though, So No, it's style points, Seaton.

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<v Speaker 1>That's when you send a message. That's when people go,

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<v Speaker 1>oh man, he's so bored, he's going behind the back.

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<v Speaker 1>That is so typically you too, by the way, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just randomly one behind the back and it goes in.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, oh god. Yeah, it's like an ESPN. The

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<v Speaker 1>OCHO broadcast the corn hole every year. Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's sponsored by Johnsonville Broth or something. I'm Dan. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you may have some free time. Yeah, No, that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>One and done. Like I can never be better than

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<v Speaker 1>what I just was, So that's it. I'm done. I retire.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like David Tyree. I had that one catch and

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<v Speaker 1>then that's it. I never played another game again. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to the program. We'll check in with Mark g

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<v Speaker 1>and Greco and he you don't you may not know

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<v Speaker 1>the name nationally, but locally in Chicago, he's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the great local sportscasters ever and he was there during

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<v Speaker 1>the Jordan era, and I thought it would be fun

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<v Speaker 1>to get the local take on the Jordan documentary. And

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<v Speaker 1>Gan Greco has some stories to tell with Michael as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Bob Costas will join us coming up in the final

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<v Speaker 1>hour of the program. Baseball is trying their damnedness to

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<v Speaker 1>figure this out, and we're gonna have Bob on to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about that with the divisions that they're talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>the three different divisions here, the likelihood of baseball. And

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<v Speaker 1>also Bob was on the call, I believe for Jordan's

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<v Speaker 1>last game that season of the documentary when he hit

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<v Speaker 1>the shot in Utah. So we'll talk to Bob Costas

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit later on mclovin. What kind of poll

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<v Speaker 1>question do you have for me? Okay, our one was

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<v Speaker 1>which team will end up having the number one pick?

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<v Speaker 1>Jack's still leading Redskins and then Lyons. Third. We've actually

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<v Speaker 1>moved into a movie discussion. We could go that way

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<v Speaker 1>for a poll if you wanted to. Well, what are

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<v Speaker 1>the other poll questions that we were toying with here? Oh? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I had a pole question. It might be I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if it's appropriate, but are you more likely to

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<v Speaker 1>watch a NASCAR race because nothing else is going on?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think the audience would say yes? Because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I'm not sure that sport if you're not

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<v Speaker 1>a fan, that you're gonna jump on. I truly don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if people would just stop and because

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<v Speaker 1>it's happening live, because NASCAR is coming back this month.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know I would, But you know, my job

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<v Speaker 1>is to cover all sports and just to sample it

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit, no matter what it is. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>UFC coming back, You know those things. At least you

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<v Speaker 1>have talking points with them. But I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>people will go if it's soccer they make, they might

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<v Speaker 1>watch soccer. I don't know if they're gonna watch NASCAR

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<v Speaker 1>if they normally don't watch Nascar. Yeah, mclub. What about

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<v Speaker 1>non major golf, which seems like it could really makes

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of sense. People will watch that. Absolutely, you'll

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<v Speaker 1>watch it just because there's escapism there where you're watching

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<v Speaker 1>somebody play golf you might not be able to play golf,

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<v Speaker 1>and just to see how they pulled this off. But yeah, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>Age seven seven three d P show email address DP

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<v Speaker 1>We all know the deal with jersey numbers. We saw

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<v Speaker 1>this with Tom Brady. Tom Brady, you know, he goes

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<v Speaker 1>to Tampa and Chris Godwin never really had a chance

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<v Speaker 1>of holding on to number twelve. That was after Brady signed.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what kind of agreement they had. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>The development that emerged in Dallas was interesting. The rookie

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<v Speaker 1>wide receiver CD Lamb, he wanted to wear number ten,

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<v Speaker 1>but the jersey with eighty eight showed up on NFL

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<v Speaker 1>Pro Shop and you might say it's just another number,

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<v Speaker 1>but not with the Cowboys. And I do believe Jerry

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<v Speaker 1>Jones had a former teammate at Arkansas whose name I

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<v Speaker 1>think was Jerry Lamb, who wore number eighty eight, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think he was saying to CD Lamb, I really

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<v Speaker 1>really want you to wear a number eighty eight. So

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<v Speaker 1>I got Drew Pearson, Michael Irvin, and Dez Bryant. Based

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<v Speaker 1>on that history, Lamb has got to be good. He'd

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<v Speaker 1>better be good. But you get him at number seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he's going to try to follow in the footsteps

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<v Speaker 1>of all those great players that wore number eighty A.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty good if you're looking. I don't know have

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<v Speaker 1>we ever gotten into numbers because I'm into numerology, but

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers of a franchise. You have eighty eight with

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys with Drew Pearson, Michael Irvan and Dez Bryant.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are three great wide receivers. And Drew Pearson should

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<v Speaker 1>be in the Hall of Fame. You got Michael Urban

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<v Speaker 1>in the Hall of Fame as well. But I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to think if you have that tradition with a team

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<v Speaker 1>where you're wearing and I have no idea, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>throwing this out. I don't have any research on it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm just wondering the number. Is there a position

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<v Speaker 1>with a franchise where you go, Yep, that person wore

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<v Speaker 1>that number. That person wore that number. That person wore

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<v Speaker 1>that number. Yeah. The only one I could think of

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<v Speaker 1>off the top of my head is not pro it's

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<v Speaker 1>college football umber forty four for Syracuse football. I know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Jim Brown had it, Ernie Davis had it,

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<v Speaker 1>Floyd Little had it, and then they would give it

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<v Speaker 1>to a player, almost like gifting it to that player

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<v Speaker 1>to carry on the tradition. So instead of retiring at

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<v Speaker 1>forty four at Syracuse, they give it to a great,

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<v Speaker 1>usually skill position player. Do you know of any of

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<v Speaker 1>those mclovin No, because my hunches that people avoid the

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<v Speaker 1>great numbers. I'm looking at what and I actually googled

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<v Speaker 1>this and Jim Brown did come up in Syracuse. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'll have a stats take to see if they can

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<v Speaker 1>find any numbers that repeat it. I would think it'd

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<v Speaker 1>be a receiver, right because potobacks don't do the same.

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<v Speaker 1>They want to avoid each other's numbers. Chase Young is

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<v Speaker 1>taking ninety nine. He had two in college at Ohio State.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I started to wonder all the players, great

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<v Speaker 1>players that have worn ninety nine. Warren Sap wore ninety nine,

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<v Speaker 1>Jason Taylor war ninety nine. Those are Hall of Famers,

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<v Speaker 1>JJ Watson Hall of Famer. Aaron Donald's a Hall of Famer.

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<v Speaker 1>Jerome Brown wore ninety nine, Mark Gastineau war ninety nine,

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Hampton, Warren ninety nine, Chase Young wearing number ninety nine.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a pretty good group to follow there of great

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<v Speaker 1>players wearing number ninety nine. Donald Hall of Famer, JJ

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<v Speaker 1>Want Hall of Famer. Jerome Brown was Jerome Brown a

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<v Speaker 1>Hall of Famer. Mclovin. I think he died too early.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he did make it. Mark Gastineau did

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<v Speaker 1>not make it into the Hall of Fame. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think so. No. I mean that's Fritzie's buddy, Dan Hampton

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<v Speaker 1>Hall of Famer, Yes, yeah, he and Richard Dent. Yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was just wondering about that when you pick

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<v Speaker 1>that number and you're picking ninety nine. Yeah, mclub. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>is there anyway ceedee Lamb's not gonna be good. I

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<v Speaker 1>know this is a silly reason, but it feels like

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<v Speaker 1>he's really set up. Oh. I love the pick, and

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<v Speaker 1>of course I wanted to see what my Cowboys would

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<v Speaker 1>be the over under, and they're at nine and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>So Tampa is higher than Dallas is at ten wins

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<v Speaker 1>ten feel I feel like they're winning ten this year

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<v Speaker 1>in Tampa, but it still feels a little aggressive, like

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<v Speaker 1>I wish that they weren't. I wish it was nine.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd feel a little better, like, oh, I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>them to be up that high. You know, the Ravens

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<v Speaker 1>had eleven and a half, Kansas City at eleven and

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<v Speaker 1>a half. Who is more likely out of that group

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<v Speaker 1>to surpass eleven and a half? All in on, the

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<v Speaker 1>Ravens had a good draft, Kansas City got a running

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<v Speaker 1>back at the end of the first round. Or you

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<v Speaker 1>have the Saints and the Niners. If I said who

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<v Speaker 1>will have the most wins this year? Or maybe there's

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<v Speaker 1>an outlier there. San Francisco got better, Saints kind of

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<v Speaker 1>status quo, but they did get a center out of Michigan,

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<v Speaker 1>Kansas City, Ravens, and then you started you have to

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<v Speaker 1>look at the divisions. The Chargers may be better, well,

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<v Speaker 1>they should be better than last year. The Raiders won't

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<v Speaker 1>surprise anybody this year. Denver, they got weapons, they should

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<v Speaker 1>be better. Then I look at the Ravens their division.

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<v Speaker 1>The Ravens are the Steelers going to be good? Better,

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<v Speaker 1>a little better than average? Ben is back, how healthy's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be? The Bengals will be a little better,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know that's you know, maybe they get five wins.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you have the Browns, who should be a

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<v Speaker 1>playoff team. What are the Browns at nine and a

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<v Speaker 1>half wins? Oh yeah, they can't be eight and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>They better be at least nine wins this year. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so gosh. And then you look at these and you go,

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<v Speaker 1>they're just daring you to either go over or under

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<v Speaker 1>on these things. That's why I don't gamble. Do I

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<v Speaker 1>think the Ravens, Chief, Saints or Niners? The division the

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<v Speaker 1>Saints are in with the Buccaneers, Carolina is not very good.

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta will be a little better, the Niners Cardinals should

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<v Speaker 1>be better. Seattle will be Seattle. And now I got

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<v Speaker 1>the Rams where I'm not quite sure who will have

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<v Speaker 1>the most wins out of there. I'm gonna take the

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<v Speaker 1>Niners just because I think Kansas City well. And you

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<v Speaker 1>know what happens when you lose the Super Bowl, Then

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<v Speaker 1>you end up not doing well the following season. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I shouldn't do that, you know, the Saints, that Ravens.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, maybe it's the Ravens again. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that they lost much and they certainly gained

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<v Speaker 1>some things. You get a linebacker and you get a

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<v Speaker 1>running back. There. I got another year with Lamar Jackson

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<v Speaker 1>on the job. Yeah, Paul, I had the twenty nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>preseason NFL win totals. The win total over under for

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<v Speaker 1>the Baltimore Ravens last year going into the season was

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<v Speaker 1>eight and a half. They got fourteen wins. For the Niners,

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<v Speaker 1>it was eight and they got thirteen wins. Yeah, those

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<v Speaker 1>are like the overachievers. The Buffalo Bills. The overunder was

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<v Speaker 1>seven last year and they got ten wins. Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>definitely would have put money on my Buffalo Bills last year.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that they were I think I even said

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<v Speaker 1>they were a ten win team. You're a Chargers. The

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<v Speaker 1>over under last year going to twenty nineteen was nine

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<v Speaker 1>and a half wins. They won five games. Man, that

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<v Speaker 1>one's one of those mind boggling where you go, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>how about, how could you guys with that much talent

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<v Speaker 1>not be competitive? And they weren't even competitive last year.

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<v Speaker 1>Browns were what last year? Palling expected to win nine

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<v Speaker 1>games by Vegas? They won six. Yeah, well, everybody was

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<v Speaker 1>all in on that. They're like, you got Odell Becka,

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<v Speaker 1>there's gotta Baker Mayfield, Yeah, we gotta, we gotta sounds

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<v Speaker 1>a super team, Nick Chubb, They're gonna get Kareem Hunt.

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<v Speaker 1>Halfway through the season. What could go? Just aren't just

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<v Speaker 1>still kind of in on it though you look at

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<v Speaker 1>it and you're like, yeah, I like it. I'm wondering

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<v Speaker 1>what happened though, Seaton, I just I go what happened here? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's it's fred O' kitchens and he just wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>ready to handle that and those personalities. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if Stefanski Kevin Stefanski, you know, he's a different guy

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<v Speaker 1>coming in. He learned from Mike Zimmer in Minnesota. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna guess they're probably gonna have less fun than they

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<v Speaker 1>did or thought they were going to, and maybe that's

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<v Speaker 1>a good thing. You know, when the coaches on record

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<v Speaker 1>is saying we're gonna have Baker under our thumb, that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't strike me as Hey, go out there and have

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<v Speaker 1>some fun. Baker let her rip there, Baker a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of phone calls Craig and Wisconsin joins us. Hi, Craig,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you have for me? Hey, good morning, Dan

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<v Speaker 1>loved the show. First time caller six two and not

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<v Speaker 1>so solid one ninety. You guys were talking about numbers

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<v Speaker 1>with sport franchises. I'm a huge Lions fan, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>not exactly known for winning, but the number twenty, you

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<v Speaker 1>had some fantastic players, Lem Barney, Billy Sims, and Barry

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<v Speaker 1>Sander number twenty yep, and then they retired it. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I believe so. All right, thank you, Craig. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Lem Barney was one of my favorites that just he

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<v Speaker 1>was a great defensive back. And yeah, we're number twenty

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<v Speaker 1>and Billy Sims. I was an Oklahoma fan growing up.

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<v Speaker 1>I just love their running backs. I love their offenses

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<v Speaker 1>at Oklahoma. Remember Jack Mildren was the quarterback when I

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<v Speaker 1>first started watching Oklahoma football. Do it pro it Oklahoma

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<v Speaker 1>would do And of course, you know I would watch

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<v Speaker 1>them just run up to score on Rice and TCU

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<v Speaker 1>in Kansas and all those you know, you're like they

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<v Speaker 1>put up eighty, they put up seventy back then Nebraska

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<v Speaker 1>and Oklahoma. It felt like they had one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty players on their roster and they were all great players.

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<v Speaker 1>Dirk in Michigan joins us, Hi, Dirk, what do you

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<v Speaker 1>have for me? Hey, Well, Craig just stole my Lions

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<v Speaker 1>number twenties. But I guess my question now is would

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<v Speaker 1>you rather have the Lions number twenties and Lembarney, Billy

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<v Speaker 1>Sims and Barry Sanders or would you take the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>eighty eight? I would take your Detroit Lions, Thank you, Dirk. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if you gave me Barry Sanders. Barry Sanders is better

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<v Speaker 1>than all the other players in this and you know

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys who war number eighty eight. He's better than

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<v Speaker 1>all of those players. Um Lambarney's a Hall of Famer.

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<v Speaker 1>Billy Simms has not even the Heisman, I means, has

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<v Speaker 1>been a great player. And Drew Pearson was a great player.

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<v Speaker 1>And obviously Michael Irvin Hall of Famer. Isaac in Cleveland

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<v Speaker 1>joints us Hey, Isaac, Hey, good morning fell that's how

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<v Speaker 1>are you? Good morning? Awesome? Hey. I've never been on

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<v Speaker 1>the show before, so been listening for a while, So

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<v Speaker 1>happy to happy to be your age, So I am

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<v Speaker 1>a USC trojan. There's a couple of numbers, for sure

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<v Speaker 1>that are a big deal off on the defensive side

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<v Speaker 1>of the ball. Fifty five, so that's Junior say out

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<v Speaker 1>and Willie McK and then there's forty two, which is

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<v Speaker 1>cheap shot writing a lot. And there's there's a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of numbers that nobody actually does want, so thirty two,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the juice, and five, which is Rechid Bush.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's kind of funny. You got numbers both sides

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<v Speaker 1>of the ball. And yeah, all right, we thank thank you, Isaac. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>does anybody wear thirty two at USC? And does anybody

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<v Speaker 1>wear five at USC? There are USC fans who will

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<v Speaker 1>not say Reggie Bush's name. They just say five, that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>They refused to say his name after all of this,

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, Willie, William mcguinnis and Junior Sale wearing fifty five.

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<v Speaker 1>I also had a friend who said, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>why did the Cowboys take Cedee Lamb. They didn't need him.

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<v Speaker 1>Last year they had the number two passing offense in

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<v Speaker 1>the league behind Tampa Bay. They had two wide receivers

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<v Speaker 1>with over one thousand yards only the third time in

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<v Speaker 1>their team history. She had Maury Cooper and Michael Gallup.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's you know, a greatly underrated wide receiver. You had

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<v Speaker 1>Tara Owens, Terry Glenn who did it once, Tony Hill

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew Pearson did it once. But why did they take

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<v Speaker 1>Cede Lamb there? I like Cede Lamb. And if you

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<v Speaker 1>give Dak Prescott, it feels like everybody's trying to emulate

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<v Speaker 1>what you have in Kansas City. Get a track team,

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<v Speaker 1>put him out there and let's see what you have.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you have a good running back, you got

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<v Speaker 1>a good line. Dallas should be the NFC version of

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<v Speaker 1>the Kansas City Chiefs. They should, but you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even win their division last year. And that's the

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<v Speaker 1>most amazing part of the NFC East. Last year. The

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<v Speaker 1>Giants weren't very good, the Redskins certainly weren't good, and

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<v Speaker 1>the Eagles win the division with all of the injuries

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<v Speaker 1>that they had. Dallas didn't even win the division, and

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<v Speaker 1>I somehow had them with the possibility going to the

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<v Speaker 1>NFC title game. Yes, for Tea. You know what happens

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<v Speaker 1>if CD gets shut down by quarterbacks? Oh boy, there

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<v Speaker 1>we go. I'll give you a couple of seconds no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>no no. If you get to pay it over with now,

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<v Speaker 1>silence of the lamb. Okay, if he's unproductive, candialism, cannibalism,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah then Todd, No, then you get to doing your

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<v Speaker 1>imperson Go ahead, it places the lotion in the basket.

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<v Speaker 1>It places the lotion in the basket, or it gets

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<v Speaker 1>the hosing. There's a formula that everybody has to understand.

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<v Speaker 1>Todd doesn't mention something unless it leads to something else somehow.

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<v Speaker 1>There's an impersonation of Rocky Sylvester Stallone. I say, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't win. These guys are the machine. You're looking at them,

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<v Speaker 1>rock We don't want this guy. He's got the eye

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<v Speaker 1>a tiger. You can't win. But that's that's not Rocky,

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<v Speaker 1>that's Burgess Meredith. That's I don't know if I do

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<v Speaker 1>a great myth? No, you do? You do? And uh

0:18:44.560 --> 0:18:46.800
<v Speaker 1>from the Simpsons March Simpson. I think that's a I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's a good impersonation. You're watching the Dan Patrick

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<v Speaker 1>Show on YouTube. That's I think that's good. I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's truly good. Yeah, CD lamb that in

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<v Speaker 1>twelve years, we haven't figured out Todd could do these

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<v Speaker 1>impression Yeah, he's kind of shine when it comes to that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd never heard him do the march, So you havn't no.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like to be all this time together. We

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<v Speaker 1>never I hate they've been hiding that. And you did?

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<v Speaker 1>You did? Shannon Sharp to Shannon Sharp, I think to

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<v Speaker 1>win ten in a half games. I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>to win a half a game. But they don't win it.

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<v Speaker 1>After game. They got two Locke, they got they got

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<v Speaker 1>THEMB receiverts Judy, and you got a doctor Phil. You've

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<v Speaker 1>added that to your repertoire. I don't know. You got

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<v Speaker 1>this big fish tank and you don't got no fish

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<v Speaker 1>in it. Why are you behind a fancy quim no picture.

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<v Speaker 1>You're trying to kill a squirrel up in the tree

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<v Speaker 1>with a water girl. Ain't gonna happen. That's why your

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<v Speaker 1>kids are on drugs. That's why your kids are dry.

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<v Speaker 1>You need a call on oscar, but you're calling a

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<v Speaker 1>fired upon it is. It is interesting that doctor Phil

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<v Speaker 1>will start all the way over here. Now look, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm guilty as charge. We'll start with something. I'll go

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<v Speaker 1>all the way over here, and I go, how did

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<v Speaker 1>I get here? Doctor Phil is giving advice to people

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<v Speaker 1>you know that could be life or death. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>talking sports here. Doctor Phil will give you some analogy

0:20:05.200 --> 0:20:09.040
<v Speaker 1>where you go, wait, what you gotta understand something walking

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<v Speaker 1>around with a last and I'll make you a cowboy. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so let's get your kids from home. It means absolutely nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>And they look at him like that's profound. My life

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna be turned around. I'm not gonna be such

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<v Speaker 1>a horder anymore. I'm throwing out stuff. Oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>you've saved my life. All right, we're gonna take a break.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's another thing about the Dallas Cowboys that I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it has to drive you crazy if you're a Cowboys fan,

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<v Speaker 1>and I had such high hopes for this team. Last year,

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys outscored their opponents by one hundred and thirteen points.

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<v Speaker 1>Last year, they outgained their opponents by more than one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred yards per game, and they finished eight and eight. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboy fans kept saying, it's the coach. Well, you've got

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<v Speaker 1>a new coach in there and Mike McCarthy, so we'll

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<v Speaker 1>see if that will produce some dividends there. Also, with

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<v Speaker 1>what you have getting your quarterback Dak Prescott under contract

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<v Speaker 1>as well, that would probably help a little bit because

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<v Speaker 1>you know what you have with Dak Prescott now, I

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<v Speaker 1>had another wide receiver there. That offense should be great

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<v Speaker 1>this year. All right, age seven seven three d P

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<v Speaker 1>show email address DP and Dan Patrick dot com Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>handle GPS show coming up. We'll talk to Mark g

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<v Speaker 1>and Greco. He's one of the great local sportscasters I

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<v Speaker 1>think of all time, and he works for ABC seven

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<v Speaker 1>in Chicago, and I'm curious he was there during the

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan era. He's still there. I want to know what's

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<v Speaker 1>new for the guys who were covering the bulls on

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<v Speaker 1>a daily basis, and what stood out so far and

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<v Speaker 1>what's bigger the eighty five Bears or the Bulls of

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<v Speaker 1>the nineties. Yes, PAULI, I had to admit this. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think I said this. When I was about seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>years old, we were downtown with my family at a restaurant.

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<v Speaker 1>We saw Mark gan Greco eating quietly having dinner, and

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<v Speaker 1>I went right up whim bothered him in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of his meal like a total jerk, and asked him

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<v Speaker 1>for an autograph. How old were you, I'm guessing I

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<v Speaker 1>was sixteen or seventies, right before I graduated high school.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was a nice Italian restaurant and he was

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<v Speaker 1>super cool and super nice, and I just couldn't help myself. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>he was a big celebrity. He is a big celebrity

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<v Speaker 1>in Chicago, and I grew up on him. The Cubs

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<v Speaker 1>have retired number thirty one, so that's Fergie Jenkins and

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<v Speaker 1>Greg Maddox the numbers game that we're playing here, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>also have Bob Costas. He'll join us coming up. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>baseball's trying. All these leagues are trying to get back,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to salvage something. How many games figure Bob would

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<v Speaker 1>be great to have on to talk about those possibilities.

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<v Speaker 1>Also to talk to Bob because Bob was there with

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<v Speaker 1>NBC in that last game for Michael Jordan in a

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<v Speaker 1>Bulls uniform, and of course in Salt Lake City, and

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, I didn't know the finality of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you out there the whole thing? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I always covered the NBA Finals, But I just remember

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<v Speaker 1>when it was over in your I'm interviewing everybody with

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<v Speaker 1>the Chicago Bulls, and I kept thinking, now they have

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<v Speaker 1>to come to their senses, like they can't end this,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you realize they were going to end this thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not know about the quote where Jerry Krause

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<v Speaker 1>says to Phil Jackson, if you go eighty two and oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't keep your job. But other than that, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that much that's jumped out where I go. Boy,

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<v Speaker 1>I did not. I wasn't aware of that. Mark Gi

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<v Speaker 1>and Greco joining us on loan from ABC seven in Chicago,

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<v Speaker 1>and great to have you. Mark, How are you, Dan?

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<v Speaker 1>How are you doing buddy? A long time? Yeah? And

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking of you yesterday. I rewatched episodes one

0:24:37.200 --> 0:24:39.639
<v Speaker 1>and two and I thought, you don't want Gan Greco

0:24:39.720 --> 0:24:41.920
<v Speaker 1>would be great to talk to because you're in a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of shots. You were there through all of this,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm curious from a local perspective, what has stood

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<v Speaker 1>out so far? Anything that you don't know through four episodes. Well,

0:24:53.040 --> 0:24:57.320
<v Speaker 1>no breaking news, but there are little vignettes where you forget.

0:24:58.000 --> 0:25:00.480
<v Speaker 1>You know that it's not to laid out chrono logically,

0:25:00.640 --> 0:25:04.280
<v Speaker 1>so you can't rely on a timeline. But there are

0:25:04.280 --> 0:25:06.880
<v Speaker 1>all these little things like Michael playing golf with Danny

0:25:06.960 --> 0:25:10.120
<v Speaker 1>Ainge before they took on the Celtics in the playoffs,

0:25:10.240 --> 0:25:12.879
<v Speaker 1>or you know that All Access crew was in the

0:25:12.960 --> 0:25:15.240
<v Speaker 1>locker room for stuff that we were not privy too,

0:25:15.600 --> 0:25:17.560
<v Speaker 1>so there were some very interesting things. And like you

0:25:17.640 --> 0:25:19.520
<v Speaker 1>alluded to Jerry Krauss saying, I don't care if you

0:25:19.600 --> 0:25:21.520
<v Speaker 1>go eighty two and oh Phil, you're not coming back.

0:25:21.960 --> 0:25:24.720
<v Speaker 1>Little things like that, and you know it's not just

0:25:24.920 --> 0:25:28.600
<v Speaker 1>me obviously. You know every guy and woman who's ever

0:25:28.840 --> 0:25:31.240
<v Speaker 1>covered the Bulls during that ninety eighth season, they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get their face shot in there sometime during this documentary.

0:25:35.880 --> 0:25:38.119
<v Speaker 1>I've met with some of my friends as to how

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<v Speaker 1>many times the tip of my nose to hear it

0:25:41.240 --> 0:25:44.320
<v Speaker 1>in all those gang shots, you know. But we were

0:25:45.280 --> 0:25:48.520
<v Speaker 1>were with them over in the France for the McDonald's tournament,

0:25:48.560 --> 0:25:51.320
<v Speaker 1>which was great. But again, you know when they won

0:25:51.359 --> 0:25:54.320
<v Speaker 1>the trophy, Michael's going, this doesn't count. This is ridiculous,

0:25:54.560 --> 0:25:56.800
<v Speaker 1>and they kind of just put the trophy up on

0:25:56.920 --> 0:26:00.200
<v Speaker 1>the locker room shelf there and they walked out like

0:26:00.720 --> 0:26:07.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, stuff like that. Could you feel attention that year, Mark, Oh, absolutely,

0:26:07.280 --> 0:26:09.920
<v Speaker 1>no question. I mean for that to all come out

0:26:10.000 --> 0:26:14.119
<v Speaker 1>before they even started playing was just ridiculous. So again

0:26:14.320 --> 0:26:16.960
<v Speaker 1>shown in the documentary and Michael's like, stop talking me

0:26:17.040 --> 0:26:19.720
<v Speaker 1>about this question. I told you five hundred times not

0:26:19.880 --> 0:26:22.480
<v Speaker 1>coming back. If Phil doesn't come back, Phil's not coming back,

0:26:22.760 --> 0:26:25.240
<v Speaker 1>So I'm not coming back. You're gonna get the same answer.

0:26:25.359 --> 0:26:28.240
<v Speaker 1>But you know, Dan, it's our job that just pound

0:26:28.359 --> 0:26:33.080
<v Speaker 1>away and we really can't appreciate this until now. It's

0:26:33.119 --> 0:26:36.160
<v Speaker 1>taken twenty plus years to sit back and say, wow,

0:26:36.240 --> 0:26:38.040
<v Speaker 1>that was really cool to be part of that, because

0:26:38.440 --> 0:26:40.879
<v Speaker 1>when you're in it, it's like, oh, we got to

0:26:40.920 --> 0:26:43.040
<v Speaker 1>get this interview, we can't get beat. We got to

0:26:43.080 --> 0:26:45.000
<v Speaker 1>do this live shot, and I learned how to moon

0:26:45.160 --> 0:26:48.159
<v Speaker 1>walk backward. It's chasing Michael, Scottie and Dennis up and

0:26:48.240 --> 0:26:51.960
<v Speaker 1>down hallways in every arena in the country, so you know,

0:26:52.080 --> 0:26:54.960
<v Speaker 1>you're just working and grinding out and trying to keep

0:26:55.040 --> 0:26:57.560
<v Speaker 1>up with him. And then you know, it takes years

0:26:57.600 --> 0:26:59.399
<v Speaker 1>to sit back and go, hey, I guess that was

0:26:59.440 --> 0:27:04.360
<v Speaker 1>pretty cool. What isn't being told? Well, here's the thing,

0:27:04.480 --> 0:27:09.200
<v Speaker 1>and I thought Ken Burns made a valid point. Arguably

0:27:09.240 --> 0:27:13.080
<v Speaker 1>the greatest documentary producer ever. I've been watching The Roosevelts

0:27:13.080 --> 0:27:15.840
<v Speaker 1>and everything else, but look, this isn't on PBS. It's

0:27:15.880 --> 0:27:19.360
<v Speaker 1>on ESPN, And just like Michael and every other walk

0:27:19.440 --> 0:27:23.280
<v Speaker 1>of life, he controls the situation. His guy has produced

0:27:23.359 --> 0:27:26.639
<v Speaker 1>it he hand picked everybody, He decides when it's going

0:27:26.680 --> 0:27:29.720
<v Speaker 1>to be released. The whole story is told through him,

0:27:30.560 --> 0:27:33.600
<v Speaker 1>and so some stuff may have hit the cutting room floor,

0:27:33.800 --> 0:27:36.679
<v Speaker 1>some stuff that maybe he didn't want in the documentary

0:27:36.760 --> 0:27:40.320
<v Speaker 1>won't appear. And you know, the director, Jason Hare, you know,

0:27:40.440 --> 0:27:43.600
<v Speaker 1>he agreed. He's like, yeah, this isn't pure journalism. And

0:27:43.680 --> 0:27:46.360
<v Speaker 1>I get what ken Burns is saying, but you know, Dan,

0:27:46.480 --> 0:27:49.560
<v Speaker 1>nobody cares. Everybody's obsessed with it. It's the only thing

0:27:49.720 --> 0:27:52.440
<v Speaker 1>that's going on right now. The ratings are through the roof,

0:27:52.560 --> 0:27:56.399
<v Speaker 1>So journalism be damned, I guess. I also find it

0:27:56.600 --> 0:27:59.720
<v Speaker 1>interesting and ironic that ken Burns, I think, had nine

0:28:00.000 --> 0:28:02.520
<v Speaker 1>episodes of the Civil War. We have ten episodes of

0:28:02.640 --> 0:28:06.639
<v Speaker 1>Michael Jordia of the Poles. Our priorities are in the

0:28:06.760 --> 0:28:09.640
<v Speaker 1>right place. We need ten episode, ten hours to tell

0:28:09.720 --> 0:28:12.159
<v Speaker 1>the story, as opposed to nine hours to tell the

0:28:12.240 --> 0:28:15.600
<v Speaker 1>Civil War. Oh absolutely, But you know, this war lasted

0:28:15.680 --> 0:28:17.760
<v Speaker 1>longer than the Civil War, I think. I mean, you know,

0:28:18.080 --> 0:28:21.040
<v Speaker 1>it was ten years of intensity, going through those six

0:28:21.160 --> 0:28:24.640
<v Speaker 1>championships and even you know, chasing Michael back and forth

0:28:24.680 --> 0:28:26.920
<v Speaker 1>from the batting cage to the field when he was

0:28:26.960 --> 0:28:31.760
<v Speaker 1>with the socks in Sarasota in spring training. So you know,

0:28:31.840 --> 0:28:34.080
<v Speaker 1>I had to do this thing with him as he'd

0:28:34.119 --> 0:28:36.040
<v Speaker 1>walk out of the batting cage and go to the field.

0:28:36.119 --> 0:28:38.400
<v Speaker 1>Every single day. I'd walk with him and I say, Mike,

0:28:38.440 --> 0:28:41.240
<v Speaker 1>you got to stop dogging me. Get off me. I'm working,

0:28:41.560 --> 0:28:44.520
<v Speaker 1>Leave me alone. You know you had to just play

0:28:44.640 --> 0:28:47.680
<v Speaker 1>with him, because you know he was mentally exhausted through

0:28:47.720 --> 0:28:50.120
<v Speaker 1>it all. We're talking to Mark g and Greco. He

0:28:50.200 --> 0:28:53.040
<v Speaker 1>works for ABC seven in Chicago. How long you've been

0:28:53.040 --> 0:28:57.720
<v Speaker 1>in Chicago. I'm in my thirty ninth year. Man, It's unbelievable.

0:28:58.320 --> 0:29:01.520
<v Speaker 1>Twelve years with NBC and now twenty seven with ABC.

0:29:02.240 --> 0:29:06.680
<v Speaker 1>Who's bigger the Bears of eighty five or the ninety Bulls?

0:29:07.600 --> 0:29:11.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh great, great question. I think this is still a

0:29:11.320 --> 0:29:16.200
<v Speaker 1>Bears town. I think the aura of Ditka presides over everything.

0:29:16.240 --> 0:29:19.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Michael and Ironed michae or the two most

0:29:19.400 --> 0:29:22.120
<v Speaker 1>iconic figures in Chicago sports history. I would have to

0:29:22.200 --> 0:29:26.640
<v Speaker 1>say still the Bears by a nose, my nose. Although

0:29:27.440 --> 0:29:30.200
<v Speaker 1>now everybody's immersed in the Bulls and they'll tell you, well,

0:29:30.320 --> 0:29:33.520
<v Speaker 1>it's got to be the six championships. But I think overall,

0:29:33.600 --> 0:29:36.880
<v Speaker 1>if you step back, it's still the Bears. If you

0:29:36.960 --> 0:29:41.880
<v Speaker 1>could have one question answered by Michael, honest, what would

0:29:41.880 --> 0:29:45.600
<v Speaker 1>it be. Tell me the truth about the whole gambling thing,

0:29:45.680 --> 0:29:47.960
<v Speaker 1>Tell me the truth about why you retired and wanted

0:29:48.000 --> 0:29:52.680
<v Speaker 1>to play baseball, you know. And I think in episode

0:29:52.840 --> 0:29:55.840
<v Speaker 1>seven that's going to be addressed. I'm not sure, but

0:29:56.000 --> 0:29:59.440
<v Speaker 1>it goes back to if Michael is controlling this and

0:29:59.560 --> 0:30:02.600
<v Speaker 1>he gets the final word on everything, how much of

0:30:03.760 --> 0:30:08.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't think this is a total epiphany

0:30:08.280 --> 0:30:09.760
<v Speaker 1>where he's going to go, you know, now I can

0:30:09.880 --> 0:30:12.440
<v Speaker 1>tell the truth. Is David Stern going to say anything?

0:30:12.680 --> 0:30:15.920
<v Speaker 1>You know, he's interviewed for this, David Stern. Everybody has

0:30:16.040 --> 0:30:19.040
<v Speaker 1>been adamant that, hey, Mike did this and he wanted

0:30:19.080 --> 0:30:22.760
<v Speaker 1>to play baseball. And I thought, okay, at the peak

0:30:22.840 --> 0:30:26.000
<v Speaker 1>of your career you want to go play baseball. It

0:30:26.200 --> 0:30:28.880
<v Speaker 1>just you get bored with the NBA, Like how do

0:30:29.000 --> 0:30:31.120
<v Speaker 1>you want to pay tribute to your dad? Like we

0:30:31.240 --> 0:30:33.880
<v Speaker 1>all had those questions at the time. And I was

0:30:33.920 --> 0:30:36.560
<v Speaker 1>there for his retirement ceremony in Chicago, where I go,

0:30:37.200 --> 0:30:40.400
<v Speaker 1>how is this guy retiring? It just didn't make sense.

0:30:40.480 --> 0:30:43.240
<v Speaker 1>It still doesn't make sense that and the whole Isaiah

0:30:43.320 --> 0:30:47.760
<v Speaker 1>Thomas and keeping him off the Dream Team. Oh I know.

0:30:47.920 --> 0:30:49.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we're so jaded in cynical and we have

0:30:49.960 --> 0:30:52.480
<v Speaker 1>to think that he's not telling the entire story. And

0:30:52.520 --> 0:30:55.560
<v Speaker 1>why would David Stern say anything now? You want to

0:30:56.080 --> 0:30:58.800
<v Speaker 1>protect the shield, as they used to say about the NFL.

0:30:59.080 --> 0:31:01.680
<v Speaker 1>You want to protect the NBA logo. You don't want

0:31:01.720 --> 0:31:04.000
<v Speaker 1>to mess anything up now and have everybody say, oh

0:31:04.040 --> 0:31:05.600
<v Speaker 1>my god, you guys have been lying to us. We

0:31:05.680 --> 0:31:08.680
<v Speaker 1>suspected this all along. It's just gonna sit this way.

0:31:09.080 --> 0:31:12.000
<v Speaker 1>And for Rod Thorne to say, I love Rod. For

0:31:12.200 --> 0:31:14.960
<v Speaker 1>him to say that Michael never said a word about

0:31:15.040 --> 0:31:18.280
<v Speaker 1>Isaiah when putting together the Dream Team, I mean really,

0:31:19.200 --> 0:31:23.680
<v Speaker 1>And I remember chucked out of our investigative reporter was

0:31:24.040 --> 0:31:27.200
<v Speaker 1>out at practice one day and pressed Michael, you know,

0:31:28.040 --> 0:31:30.120
<v Speaker 1>is that how you're prepared for a playoff game? Gambling

0:31:30.160 --> 0:31:33.880
<v Speaker 1>in Atlantic City? He goes, that's it. Remember he implemented

0:31:33.920 --> 0:31:36.680
<v Speaker 1>the media boycott. He didn't speak to us for months,

0:31:37.280 --> 0:31:39.400
<v Speaker 1>and then finally one day at practice, we're on the road.

0:31:39.480 --> 0:31:41.840
<v Speaker 1>I forget where we were. He looks at me and

0:31:41.920 --> 0:31:43.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of winks and goes, all right, come on, let's

0:31:43.480 --> 0:31:46.880
<v Speaker 1>do it boom, five hundred reporters dive on him and

0:31:47.560 --> 0:31:51.320
<v Speaker 1>foot Still, Michael's gonna He's gonna tell the story the

0:31:51.400 --> 0:31:53.240
<v Speaker 1>way he wants to tell the story. Well, what I

0:31:53.400 --> 0:31:57.080
<v Speaker 1>really enjoy as him cursing every five minutes, because we've

0:31:57.120 --> 0:31:59.840
<v Speaker 1>heard him swear up and down in the locker room

0:31:59.840 --> 0:32:01.960
<v Speaker 1>in the hallway, but this is the first time on

0:32:02.080 --> 0:32:04.400
<v Speaker 1>camera where he's dropping up bombs. And I'm sure there's

0:32:04.400 --> 0:32:07.640
<v Speaker 1>a prop bet on how many once they get that episode.

0:32:07.840 --> 0:32:10.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure if we'll ever have an athlete who

0:32:10.600 --> 0:32:14.920
<v Speaker 1>will be this beloved in a team sport. I mean,

0:32:15.000 --> 0:32:17.240
<v Speaker 1>he was feared, but he was beloved. And when he

0:32:17.400 --> 0:32:20.880
<v Speaker 1>went to your arena, you showed up because you wanted

0:32:20.960 --> 0:32:23.400
<v Speaker 1>him to be great. You wanted to see greatness. It

0:32:23.560 --> 0:32:26.680
<v Speaker 1>wasn't one of those unless you're a Pistons fan. You

0:32:26.800 --> 0:32:29.240
<v Speaker 1>showed up, and I think you wanted to be entertained

0:32:29.680 --> 0:32:32.040
<v Speaker 1>by him and by that team. You know, we got

0:32:32.120 --> 0:32:34.520
<v Speaker 1>tired of the Golden State Warriors. That didn't take long

0:32:34.600 --> 0:32:37.200
<v Speaker 1>for us to get tired of that. The Patriots were

0:32:37.280 --> 0:32:41.920
<v Speaker 1>never embraced by America. The Spurs were never embraced the Bulls.

0:32:42.160 --> 0:32:44.160
<v Speaker 1>That was the That was the amazing part of it

0:32:44.320 --> 0:32:48.560
<v Speaker 1>Mark where people loved watching them, even if it meant

0:32:48.600 --> 0:32:52.960
<v Speaker 1>to the detriment of your team. No question, Dan, And

0:32:53.320 --> 0:32:57.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, can you imagine load management implemented in the nineties.

0:32:57.960 --> 0:33:00.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, Michael showed up every single night,

0:33:00.680 --> 0:33:02.760
<v Speaker 1>and he was aware that they all came to see him.

0:33:03.160 --> 0:33:05.160
<v Speaker 1>He's not going to do a Kawhi Leonard and sit

0:33:05.240 --> 0:33:07.800
<v Speaker 1>out a couple of games. Most of these people can't

0:33:07.800 --> 0:33:10.840
<v Speaker 1>afford these tickets. It's a once in a lifetime opportunity

0:33:11.120 --> 0:33:13.640
<v Speaker 1>to have Michael Jordan come in town and see him live.

0:33:14.160 --> 0:33:16.719
<v Speaker 1>And every player was like that. In the nineties, they

0:33:16.880 --> 0:33:18.560
<v Speaker 1>punched you in the face if he tried to come

0:33:18.600 --> 0:33:21.040
<v Speaker 1>in the lane, and they felt an obligation to play

0:33:21.120 --> 0:33:25.080
<v Speaker 1>every night and perform and entertain. It's completely different now.

0:33:26.040 --> 0:33:28.120
<v Speaker 1>Feel free to not answer this, but did you ever

0:33:28.240 --> 0:33:34.640
<v Speaker 1>hit the town with Dennis Rowden. Let's say I was

0:33:34.760 --> 0:33:37.640
<v Speaker 1>having dinner one night and he rolled in with some people.

0:33:38.160 --> 0:33:45.000
<v Speaker 1>And this was maybe ten years ago, not while he

0:33:45.280 --> 0:33:47.440
<v Speaker 1>was playing for the Bulls. I wouldn't go near him

0:33:47.840 --> 0:33:51.560
<v Speaker 1>because you know, I'm a moth to flame. But the

0:33:51.640 --> 0:33:55.040
<v Speaker 1>first thing he said to me was are you still here?

0:33:55.560 --> 0:33:58.160
<v Speaker 1>How he greeted me and I said, yeah, man, but

0:33:58.720 --> 0:34:02.320
<v Speaker 1>always wanted to. And I think he would invite it

0:34:02.480 --> 0:34:03.960
<v Speaker 1>all of us to come out one night, but I

0:34:04.040 --> 0:34:06.640
<v Speaker 1>think we were scared to death. I went out with

0:34:06.760 --> 0:34:10.839
<v Speaker 1>him one night at the Crowbar. Oh yeah, yeah, I'm

0:34:10.920 --> 0:34:15.239
<v Speaker 1>driven by there. Decided, you know what, I'm just not

0:34:15.320 --> 0:34:16.920
<v Speaker 1>going to do it because you know, Dan, I'm out

0:34:16.920 --> 0:34:19.640
<v Speaker 1>of suspension. I got a couple of years left on

0:34:19.760 --> 0:34:22.279
<v Speaker 1>ideal and I can't afford to get suspended anymore. So

0:34:25.200 --> 0:34:26.759
<v Speaker 1>we don't need to go down that road of all

0:34:26.800 --> 0:34:29.239
<v Speaker 1>the times you've been suspended. But yeah, I went out

0:34:29.280 --> 0:34:31.439
<v Speaker 1>with Dna. Tell you though, I'll tell you we share

0:34:31.480 --> 0:34:34.680
<v Speaker 1>the same birthday, Vennis and Stevie Wonder and I and

0:34:34.800 --> 0:34:38.719
<v Speaker 1>we're kindred spirits in some really weird, twisted ways. And

0:34:39.360 --> 0:34:42.840
<v Speaker 1>remember the biggest being Cruther's men's store would advertise on

0:34:42.920 --> 0:34:46.359
<v Speaker 1>the building along the Expressway in downtown Chicago, and they

0:34:46.360 --> 0:34:50.480
<v Speaker 1>would have Rodman's mural up there. It's giant face painted

0:34:51.080 --> 0:34:54.080
<v Speaker 1>and he was changing his hair color every week, so

0:34:54.160 --> 0:34:58.480
<v Speaker 1>they had giant pieces of plywood in different colors and

0:34:58.520 --> 0:35:01.800
<v Speaker 1>they would just change his hair every week. I wound

0:35:01.920 --> 0:35:04.120
<v Speaker 1>up with one of those huge pieces of ply with

0:35:04.320 --> 0:35:07.239
<v Speaker 1>in my garage, and I still have no idea I

0:35:07.680 --> 0:35:12.400
<v Speaker 1>got it. It was the pinkish chartruss one and the

0:35:12.480 --> 0:35:14.719
<v Speaker 1>thing was gigantic. It's like ten feet tall and about

0:35:14.760 --> 0:35:17.279
<v Speaker 1>fifteen feet wide. But I think I lost that in

0:35:17.320 --> 0:35:20.680
<v Speaker 1>the divorce too. So he was He was not a

0:35:20.760 --> 0:35:24.160
<v Speaker 1>great interview, but he was a fascinating character that you

0:35:24.239 --> 0:35:27.200
<v Speaker 1>know that Scotty wasn't a great interview, but there was.

0:35:27.640 --> 0:35:31.120
<v Speaker 1>There was a lot of drama surrounding Scottie. Michael could

0:35:31.160 --> 0:35:33.640
<v Speaker 1>be a great interview, and then you had the other

0:35:33.920 --> 0:35:38.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, underlings there. Harp wasn't necessarily a great interview.

0:35:38.360 --> 0:35:42.640
<v Speaker 1>Tony Ko coach Phil could be at times. But oh,

0:35:42.719 --> 0:35:44.360
<v Speaker 1>by the way, we had Charles Barkley on it, and

0:35:44.520 --> 0:35:47.239
<v Speaker 1>Charles said that Jerry Reinsdorf has no blood on his hands.

0:35:47.280 --> 0:35:50.560
<v Speaker 1>All the blood is on Jerry Kraus, which I agree.

0:35:51.040 --> 0:35:53.719
<v Speaker 1>It feels like this was all Jerry Krause, that I

0:35:53.800 --> 0:35:56.000
<v Speaker 1>built it and I tear it down, and Jerry Reinsdorf,

0:35:56.000 --> 0:35:57.840
<v Speaker 1>if the owner had nothing to do with this, is

0:35:57.880 --> 0:36:01.680
<v Speaker 1>that real? Well oh that's not real at all. But Jerry,

0:36:01.880 --> 0:36:04.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, wanted to be a hands off owner and

0:36:05.280 --> 0:36:07.640
<v Speaker 1>so he kind of just let Kraus do what he

0:36:07.719 --> 0:36:10.480
<v Speaker 1>wanted to do, and he respected Kraus as a scout,

0:36:10.560 --> 0:36:13.319
<v Speaker 1>as a judge of talent, as a general manager, both

0:36:13.360 --> 0:36:17.680
<v Speaker 1>in baseball and basketball. He said in the documentary, you know,

0:36:17.680 --> 0:36:20.359
<v Speaker 1>I didn't hire him to win any popularity contest. Jerry

0:36:20.800 --> 0:36:23.600
<v Speaker 1>Kraus rubbed everybody the wrong way. He was the little

0:36:23.640 --> 0:36:25.880
<v Speaker 1>fat guy who wanted to be part of the cool group.

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<v Speaker 1>And what really struck me was we saw this all

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<v Speaker 1>the time, but it just really stung to see it again.

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<v Speaker 1>But Michael and Scottie just abusing Kraus to his face

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<v Speaker 1>and it got so personal. It was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't Kraus didn't like the meet He either, especially

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<v Speaker 1>didn't like a particular group of us. And we're like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this guy was brutal, but it still stung

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<v Speaker 1>to watch him be berated by Scottie and Michael like that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, oh God, but I think Rhinsdorff obviously does

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<v Speaker 1>have some blood out of his hands for all of it.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta be kidding. It's just like Rocky. It's in

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<v Speaker 1>the Blackhawks. Now, Rocky's a handsoff owner. But he finally

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<v Speaker 1>took it upon himself to step in and blow that

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing up. So Jerry Ryan Starr certainly as accountable

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<v Speaker 1>as the owner. Great to talk to you, Mark and

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<v Speaker 1>try not to get in trouble, all right, I want

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<v Speaker 1>Dan it go Flyers. The year that could have been,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. I know Mark gian Greco, sports director

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<v Speaker 1>of ABC seven in Chicago, really one of the great

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<v Speaker 1>local sportscasters in history. Every time you go to Chicago

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<v Speaker 1>and there I was a competitive market, really competitive market,

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<v Speaker 1>and gian Greco they were all and they had to

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<v Speaker 1>be there every single night for Jordan because they you

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<v Speaker 1>can't really describe the I mean it was the circuses

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<v Speaker 1>in town every night and for years it was in town.

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<v Speaker 1>The fact that you know, the Bears were one year

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<v Speaker 1>and then the second year they should have won another

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<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl, but you know that it was a three

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<v Speaker 1>year window for the for the Bears. The Bulls were

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<v Speaker 1>a good eight years and they were a phenomenon. Now

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<v Speaker 1>we loved Magic and Showtime. That's probably as close as

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<v Speaker 1>you would get, I think where you were entertained to

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<v Speaker 1>see something you'd never seen before. When Magic and the

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<v Speaker 1>Lakers and Cream came to town, it felt different. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>those uniforms looked great. You know, the Celtics came to town.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there was curiosity, I think to see bird

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't think they were ever beloved beholding the

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<v Speaker 1>Bulls were they were loved that and I know it

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like it's an overstatement that they were the Beatles.

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<v Speaker 1>They were the Beatles. They were Take a break. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>was the villain, and then it wasn't no, no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 1>He was portrayed as the villain because you know, at

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<v Speaker 1>down apart. Didn't abody think that's a food? That thing

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<v Speaker 1>Danny Canells, a former NFL quarterback, and he was on

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<v Speaker 1>the Herd yesterday in Fox Sports Radio, and he had

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<v Speaker 1>this to say about Aaron Rodgers. I would just tweak

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<v Speaker 1>it to say he's Jay Cutler with a ring. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>imagine if he didn't have a Super Bowl win early

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<v Speaker 1>in his career. And I mean clearly he's a better

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback than Jay Cutler statistically, he's been there. But is

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<v Speaker 1>he a leader of men like does he inspire the

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<v Speaker 1>team around him? Watch the quarterbacks that do that. Look

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<v Speaker 1>at Tom Brady, look at Patrick Mahome, look at Peyton Manning,

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<v Speaker 1>look at Drew Brees. And I'll go back to something

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<v Speaker 1>that really bothered me during the NFC game with the

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco forty nine ers when they were getting beat.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you remember the fumble in that game that Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>Rodgers hardly even went after? Yea. I talked to a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of quarterbacks, guys that had played in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>and it bothered a lot of them too. That's Danny

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<v Speaker 1>Cannell with the Herd talking about Aaron Rodgers. Now he's

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<v Speaker 1>saying two different things. Here is this about his play,

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<v Speaker 1>his style or his demeanor, because it feels like this

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<v Speaker 1>is his demeanor is more like Jay Cutler. And Jay

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<v Speaker 1>Cutler always seemed like he was removed from his team,

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<v Speaker 1>that he wasn't fully invested, He was lethargic, that nothing

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<v Speaker 1>really got him excited. So Aaron Rodgers is Jay Cutler

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<v Speaker 1>with the ring, which, okay, that's obviously incorrect because he's

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<v Speaker 1>so much better than Jay Cutler. He has one. He

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<v Speaker 1>has a ring. Jay Cutler doesn't. Their demeanors are the same.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want to extract that, okay, but you can't

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<v Speaker 1>say Aaron Rodgers is Cutler with a ring. He is.

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Rodgers has a super Bowl ring with the demeanor

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<v Speaker 1>that is similar to Jay Cutler's, but talent wise, it's

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<v Speaker 1>different and results are different than Jay Cutler. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I know it feels like it's open season on Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>Rodgers or it's been that way. And look, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>trying to be territorial. I admire what he does. I

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<v Speaker 1>do like him, but you know, one day he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be done in Green Bay and somebody else is going

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<v Speaker 1>to come in and then we'll move on. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>how can he replace Brett Farve? Well, we replaced Brett

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<v Speaker 1>Farve and we moved on. That's what happens in sports.

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<v Speaker 1>They come, they go. I've been fortunate to be in

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<v Speaker 1>this business a long time. I see him when they start,

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<v Speaker 1>I see him when they go. Same thing will happen

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<v Speaker 1>to Aaron Rodgers. It's like, who's gonna be how do

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<v Speaker 1>you replace Tom Brady? Somebody eventually will replace Tom Brady.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's gonna replace Joe Montana? Somebody eventually came along and

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<v Speaker 1>replaced Joe Montana. But Aaron Rodgers is not Jay Cutler

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<v Speaker 1>with the ring. Now, it's a nice headline. There, absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>incorrect headline. He has the demeanor of Jay Cutler. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>give you that, yeah, McLevin. I mean it's too far

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<v Speaker 1>to even be a headline. It's not a nice headline

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<v Speaker 1>because it's ridiculous. I don't think you exactly. Well, this

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<v Speaker 1>is like clickbait, that's all that is. But can't you

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<v Speaker 1>name a better quarterback than Jay Cutler? To go? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I like you. I'm guessing then that Danny Cannell would

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<v Speaker 1>like Philip Rivers over Aaron Rodgers, right, because you love

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<v Speaker 1>that demeanor. Philip Rivers is all in. He's competitive and

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna Winston Jamis Winston has got enthusiasm, and I

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<v Speaker 1>want James all right, Maybe I don't. Joe Montana was

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<v Speaker 1>known as Joe Cool. Wait a minute, you're not firing competitive.

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