1 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:08,399 Speaker 1: Hey, Colts fans. I'm JJ Sankobitz and welcome in to 2 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: another episode of The Colt Show in Indianapolis Colts podcast, 3 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: and I am in Berlin, Germany at the Olympic Stadium. 4 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: If you don't believe me, look here, I know there's 5 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: producer Drew. You can sort of see the field in 6 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: the background, see the whole stadium if you're watching this 7 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 1: on YouTube, if you're listening on audio, just believe me. 8 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: This podcast is coming to you from Berlin, and I'm 9 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 1: going to have a conversation with Colts Director of football 10 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: Operations Mulaney Lowe coming up here in a bit. We're 11 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: going to talk all about the logistical challenges not just 12 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: of hosting a game internationally, but hosting a game internationally 13 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: in Germany and in a city that has not hosted 14 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: an NFL regular season game. So we're kind of figuring 15 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: this all out with the NFL, the Colts are whoever 16 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: the Cults are playing. By the way, just as a disclaimer, 17 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: I don't know the Cults are playing yet. We're filming 18 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: this in April, we don't know the day of the game, 19 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: we don't know the opponent. By the time you watch this, though, 20 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: I'm guessing you're probably gonna know the name of the 21 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: opponent and the day the game is being played, so 22 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: be sure to start thinking about travel plans because I 23 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: can't recommend this city enough to come out here. But 24 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: this is a big undertaking. Again, the NFL has never 25 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: played a game in Berlin. They did some preseason games 26 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 1: back in the early nineties, those obviously not the same, 27 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: and the logistical challenges probably even if back in the 28 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: nineties versus now are completely different. I mean, no one 29 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: had phone chargers back in the nineties. No, you didn't 30 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: have to worry about, well, how am I going to 31 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: plug into this European outlet to get my phone charged. 32 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: The point though, of bringing millenion for this she deals 33 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: with football operations, which means team travel. It means making 34 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: sure the hotel is safe and set up. We're gonna 35 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: get into a lot of that, but there's just so 36 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: much that goes into even a road game domestically in 37 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: the United States that is just amplified even more the 38 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: challenges when you go to another country. You know it's Germany, 39 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: so guess what languag jerging is. They're probably gonna speak German, 40 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: so you have to navigate some language barriers. This is 41 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: going to be a huge challenge for the Colts. But 42 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: like Mulaney has said previously, this is sort of like 43 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl of work for football operations departments is 44 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: getting a game internationally. So excited for you guys to 45 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: hear my conversation with Mulaney, But just real quick, like, 46 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: I want to talk about Berlin as a city because 47 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: I've been here for a couple of days now. In April, 48 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: I did twenty nine thousand steps, which is crazy that 49 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: my feet really hurt the first day I got here. 50 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: But I walked all around the city and it's such 51 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 1: a vibrant city. It's got a very interesting blend of 52 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 1: new things, old things. There's graffiti everywhere, but it's not 53 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: like you know, oh, I can't believe this is all 54 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 1: this graffiti everywhere. It's like very artistic. It's such a 55 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: cool city. I could not recommend it enough. If you're 56 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,519 Speaker 1: thinking about it, What better excuse are you're gonna have 57 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: to come to Berlin than it comes see the Colts 58 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,519 Speaker 1: play this game sometime during the twenty twenty five season. Again, 59 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: by now you can probably insert that right there. You're 60 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: gonna know when it is sobody cool restaurants, some many 61 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: cool spots to go, things to see. It is a 62 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: fascinating city. I've fallen in love with it being here 63 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: for the last couple of days. But enough about me 64 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: and my experience in Berlin. I hope you get to 65 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 1: experience it this fall. Let's get to my conversation with 66 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: Mulaney Low. All right, I'm here with Colts Director of 67 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: Football Operations Mulaney Low, and we are at the Olympic 68 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: Stadium in Berlin. What an incredible setting for I mean, 69 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: right now, there's nothing really going on out there, but 70 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 1: just walking into the stadium to be able to envision 71 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: what it's going to look like on game day come, 72 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: you know, whenever the game is. I already told everyone 73 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: you know, we don't know what it is yet as 74 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: we're taping this right now. Before we get into kind 75 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: of just the logistics of what goes on in getting 76 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: an international game set up, just Molane, I want to 77 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: kind of explain your job as director of football Operations. 78 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: So when people ask you, well, what do you do 79 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: with the Colts, I'm going to ask you that right now, 80 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: what do you do with the Colts? 81 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 2: Absolutely, I would say football ops really entails everything. I 82 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 2: think when people think of football ops they think hotel transportation, 83 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 2: but it's so much more. I mean, really, we help 84 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 2: collaborate with all the different departments. So what does athletic 85 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 2: training need, what does equipment need? We take all these 86 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 2: needs and wants, even from our head coach and our 87 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 2: GM and combine them and then we find the best 88 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 2: solution with everybody's input on what we should do. And 89 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 2: so that can go plane, train, automobiles, you name it. 90 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 2: And it's also taking care of player requests. So we start, 91 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 2: you know, there's coaches relocation, all the way to the 92 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,799 Speaker 2: draft and then into season. So our job is throughout 93 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 2: the season really assisting the team with anything they need. Oftentimes, 94 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 2: if someone doesn't know where to go to, we try 95 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 2: to be that person that can help them navigate anything. 96 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: And the end goal there is you're trying to make 97 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 1: the experience as streamlined as and as maybe headache free 98 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: as possible, so they have they have all their focus 99 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: on going out there and preparing to win games, to 100 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: train whatever it might be. 101 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and that's one of the most difficult things I 102 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 2: would say, is Okay, how can we and it goes 103 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 2: for any trip. How can we make it so seamless 104 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,239 Speaker 2: that the guys all they have to focus on is football? 105 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 2: And here there are differences between Germany and the United States. 106 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 2: How can we limit those make it feel as much 107 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 2: like home, but still give them a true German experience. 108 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: Okay, so what's maybe the weirdest thing you have to 109 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 1: consider in preparing guys to be in Germany? 110 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 2: Yes, the bed size, so both the length of the 111 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 2: bed and then also the with so sometimes we have 112 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 2: to put two twin beds together. No one would ever 113 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 2: know because there's a mattress topper that goes on top, 114 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 2: and most times they don't and we try to, you know, 115 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 2: limit that to just staff. But I would say even 116 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 2: the length, like our guys, you know, seven foot six foot, 117 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 2: often struggle with that. 118 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: So the bed size though, I mean Germans are tall 119 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 1: like dark Navisky's from this country, that you'd think that 120 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,239 Speaker 1: that's not something I would have even ever thought about. 121 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 2: And two comforters as well, so they have one on 122 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 2: each side of the bed, which is great. I mean 123 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 2: for the players, they can just figure out how to 124 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 2: use it. But that's one of the other interesting things. 125 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 3: That we face. 126 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: What about like items you have. 127 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 2: To bring over, items we have to bring over. So 128 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 2: what we saw last time was also like food. The 129 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 2: guys are very particular, They're very regiment on what foods 130 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 2: you know, they prefer, and so our dietitian does a 131 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 2: great job of Okay, if we have a certain brand 132 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 2: of ketchup that we like, we have to send that over. 133 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 2: If there's a certain fan or you know, certain products, 134 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 2: medic medications, all those things we have to think through 135 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 2: and how we have to ship them over here. And 136 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,799 Speaker 2: there's also restrictions from going to the US to Germany 137 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 2: and what they allow into the country. So those are 138 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 2: things that we actually, I mean, as soon as we 139 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 2: found out we're starting to plan, there's a thing called 140 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 2: a karnee, so we put everything on the carne in 141 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 2: that list, the size, the weight, very very specific things 142 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 2: on that piece of paper, and then that way we 143 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 2: get to preapproved to bring it into the country. 144 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 1: I'm guessing the process of playing games internationally, the NFL 145 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: has probably honed that. 146 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 3: Over the years. 147 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely certainly now hosting a couple games in Germany, 148 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 1: But has there been anything that's come up on this 149 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 1: trip about it being in Berlin and it being the 150 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: first time the NFL has had a regular season game 151 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: in Berlin, that has maybe stood out as a potential challenge. 152 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 2: Truly, No, Berlin is very very similar to Frankfurt, which 153 00:06:58,360 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 2: is great for us. 154 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 3: To Frankfort. 155 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 2: We hadn't gone since twenty sixteen, so there was a 156 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 2: lot of time in which our team has changed, our 157 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 2: needs have changed, just the NFL in general, so that 158 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 2: was kind of starting from scratch as long as as 159 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 2: well as our carne list. From twenty sixteen to twenty 160 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 2: twenty three, a lot had changed. So now that we're 161 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 2: going now two years later, our carnes are up to date. 162 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 2: A lot of the things that we do are very similar, 163 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 2: so that is very reassuring. I would say Frankfort and 164 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 2: Berlin are very similar. I think it's a country thing, 165 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 2: you know, very similar city to city. 166 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: Is there much of a language barrier? 167 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 2: I would say no, truly on all of our meetings 168 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 2: so far today, you know, there was only probably one 169 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 2: instance where there was a language barrier, and luckily we 170 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 2: had a great support system around us that could translate. 171 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 2: But other than that, most speak English. 172 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: What did you maybe learn from the Frankfort experience, because 173 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: that that game. You know, we hadn't played internationally, like 174 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: you said, in seven years. I believe that was your 175 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: first international game. Exactly did you joined the Colts? What 176 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: did you take away from that that's maybe helped you 177 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: out in this experience. 178 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 2: Great question knowing what questions to ask, So you don't 179 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 2: know until you do it, you don't know what's different. 180 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 2: We go over once we go over for a span 181 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 2: of this time, two days, and so you have to 182 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 2: absorb as much information, but it takes so much time 183 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 2: to absorb what you're seeing and knowing that that a 184 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 2: lot of the questions you don't you ask are later 185 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 2: on in the process. So it's knowing what to ask, 186 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 2: what will the NFL provide? What are some things that 187 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 2: we might face coming to another country. So I think 188 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 2: a lot of those questions we learned through the process, 189 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 2: we learned in real time, and now this time around, 190 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 2: we know in twenty twenty five that those are the 191 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 2: questions we have to ask. 192 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 1: What has this trip been? This has been kind of 193 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: like this advanced scouting trip that you know, football operations 194 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: is on us on the marketing content business side are 195 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 1: also on what have you got out of this trip 196 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: or what did you need to get. 197 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 3: Out of this trip? 198 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 2: This trip was to see hotels primarily hotels, stadium, airport, 199 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 2: and practice site, so all the things that players would 200 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 2: go to. So hotels, do can they accommo date our 201 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 2: meeting rooms? We have, you know, meetings just like we 202 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 2: would at the facility. Do we have enough for every breakout, 203 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 2: every position, group, practice site? 204 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 3: Are the fields up to our standards here in America? 205 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 2: Will they accommodate you know, music, lights, all the things 206 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 2: that we need to hold a practice. 207 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 3: Privacy, privacy huge. 208 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 2: And then also the stadium, so locker room, coaches, booth, 209 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 2: the player buses where they will arrive, just start to 210 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 2: finish everything that you can imagine. 211 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 3: And then the airport. 212 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 2: How do we get the players in and how do 213 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 2: we get them out without and again privacy keeping them 214 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 2: from the public and making sure that they're secure. 215 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: Is there maybe you know, you we do road games 216 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: obviously eight of them every year, nine of them every year. 217 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 3: Whatever it might be. 218 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: Is there something about you know, this is technically a 219 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: home game for the cults. Is there something about this 220 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: trip internationally that is wildly different from a domestic road game. 221 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 2: I think there's a lot more to it just because 222 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 2: there's more days, right, so we usually we fly in 223 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 2: and the next day we're playing a game. Well, now 224 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 2: we need a practice site, we need more meetings, We 225 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 2: need to make this trip exactly like it would be 226 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 2: at home preparing for a game. And because it's a 227 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 2: home game, right, usually you have the home game advantage, 228 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 2: so you have your own facilities there leading up to 229 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 2: the game. So our job is, okay, how can we 230 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 2: limit distractions, make the players feel at home, but also 231 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 2: get an experience here being in Germany. But yes, this 232 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 2: trip has been tremendous for us, just because we need 233 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 2: to get eyes on everything and then just start the 234 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 2: planning process. And it truly does take from now until 235 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 2: we play the game, just those little details to fine tune. 236 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: I know your players get a little bit of free 237 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: time when they're on the road, but they're here for 238 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: a game. 239 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 3: Correct. 240 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: You kind of mentioned you want everything to be streamlined 241 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: so they can they can get their work in, but 242 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 1: you do want them to have the. 243 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 3: Experience of being absolutely yes, how. 244 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 1: Much of a challenge is that though, being in another 245 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: country and still you know, okay, we're here for here 246 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: for a game. 247 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 3: We got to win this game. 248 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: Right, we just flew eight hours across the ocean, whatever 249 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: it might be, but hey, we do want you to 250 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: feel like you're in Germany like this trip was. 251 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 3: Yes, you know a little more special. 252 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,080 Speaker 2: Yes, And that's another layer to our job. So how 253 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 2: can we create experiences for them but keep it you know, 254 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 2: private and secure, So that's one of our jobs. Will 255 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 2: set up buses so that they escort them downtown, will 256 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:09,719 Speaker 2: have security around the city, just keeping eyes on and 257 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 2: making sure that they're secure, and also transporting them back 258 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 2: and having you know, a time and wish they have 259 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 2: to be back to the hotel to check in, to 260 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 2: make sure we're all good for the next day. 261 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 1: You kind of talked a little bit about food and 262 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: you know what Lee Hull at the you know our 263 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: team dietitian does. How does the training table look, you know, 264 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: the food offerings at the hotel. How difficult is that 265 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: to replicate what you would get in America? 266 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 2: Yes, with German it's one of my favorite parts. Actually 267 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 2: the trip in Frankfurt, our food was phenomenal and so 268 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 2: the expectation, the bar has been set high and we 269 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 2: try to make it so. Like I said, you know, 270 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 2: guys have regimens they have preferences, and so we try 271 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 2: to make sure that they have those options that they 272 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 2: normally have in the States, so that if they have, 273 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 2: you know, certain dietary issues or you know that we 274 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 2: have to accommodate, they have them, but also give them 275 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 2: the ability to try new foods. We're here in Germany, 276 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 2: we want to make sure that we can play into 277 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 2: the local cuisine and so have options are standard American 278 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 2: options and then you have your German options as well. 279 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: What is maybe the more I don't want to say challenging, 280 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: but the biggest day for you just in terms of operations. 281 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: Is it the day the team arrives and you know, 282 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: you go to the hotel, you go to practice, or 283 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: is it game day? And pulling that. 284 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 2: Off, I would say arrival, team arrival. So so myself 285 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 2: and a group of others will advance a couple of 286 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 2: days before just to get everything set for the team 287 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 2: before they get here. And I think those days leading 288 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 2: up to and the day of arrival is the most 289 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 2: crucial and the most stressful. It's also the biggest moment. 290 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 2: So once the guys walk through those doors, you just 291 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 2: have a breath of fresh air, like okay, they're here, 292 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 2: they're safe, you know, and then from there we've planned 293 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 2: so much. We've taken six months to plan. As long 294 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 2: as you know, we did our work, which we will, 295 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 2: everything will kind of play out how it's supposed to. 296 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 2: Game day is always, you know, a pinch me moment. 297 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 2: It's a great experience to be able to stand in 298 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 2: this crowd and Frankfort the fans were incredible and the 299 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 2: energy in the stadium. So that's one of those times 300 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 2: where you get to enjoy the moment and then we're 301 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 2: back to business once the game ends. It's okay, we 302 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 2: got to get to the team to the airport and 303 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 2: get out of the country. 304 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 3: So I think that's another stressful moment with. 305 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: So many things to think about it, so many things 306 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: boxes you have to check, you do you are able 307 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: to take a time some time to kind of you know, 308 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: look around and okay, like look at how cool this is, 309 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: Like you are able to do that. 310 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 2: Yes, I would say standing on the sideline is one 311 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 2: of those moments where you just get to you know, 312 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 2: I always tell everybody around me, they're like, never forget 313 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 2: those moments. It's something that you know, I was taught 314 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 2: in college early on. Is you know you do so 315 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:31,959 Speaker 2: much and that you have to enjoy those little moments 316 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 2: when you can, and I feel like on this the 317 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 2: sideline is one of those moments. 318 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: I want to talk about your background cause you mentioned college. 319 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: You were at Saint Mary's, YEP, and then you were 320 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:40,959 Speaker 1: in equipment. 321 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 3: Correct intern Yes, editor, you get a manager at Notre Dame. 322 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: How did that set you on a path to become 323 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 1: an operations director for an NFL team? 324 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 3: Absolutely so. 325 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 2: If you would have told me when I was an 326 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 2: equipment manager that that would be able to be a 327 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 2: path for football operations, I had no idea. And the 328 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:58,839 Speaker 2: more you talk to people in the NFL, the more 329 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 2: you realize equipment really is a lot of times people's 330 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 2: first job in the NFL or college football really teaches 331 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 2: you great foundational skills. You do a lot of work. 332 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 2: I mean, it's a hard job, and I have so 333 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 2: much respect for equipment managers, but I think you see 334 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 2: so much and you help so many people that it 335 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 2: helps you have that operational mindset. And then having great 336 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 2: people here at the cults of you know, to teach 337 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 2: me operations. I think you just have to have the 338 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 2: right mindset, the right drive, and you can accomplish anything. 339 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: What are some of those skills you picked up early 340 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: on in equipment? 341 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 2: Honestly detail oriented and just have passion for what you do. 342 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 3: It shows and everything that you do. 343 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 2: If you have passion and also just willing to help, 344 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 2: willing to do anything the small tasks, the gross jobs 345 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 2: that no one else wants to do, like that sets 346 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 2: you apart. 347 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: That's something that you know. I'm sure a lot of 348 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: people watching this they might want to get into the 349 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: NFL themselves. Like people always ask me, and I'm sure 350 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: you get this too, like how can I get in 351 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: the NFL? 352 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 3: Like what do I need to do? 353 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: I think the point about passion for it, just what 354 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: do you need me to do? 355 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 2: Right? 356 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: Is almost maybe the better question, Yes exactly. 357 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 2: I mean you put a lot of time in a 358 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 2: lot of work, so you have to be willing to 359 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 2: put in those hours and just keep you know, keep 360 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 2: focused because it takes a long time, and you know, 361 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 2: you do a lot of different things, but the end goals, 362 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 2: it's pretty special. 363 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: So we fly here to Berlin with the team, you know, 364 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: sometime during the season, and the game goes off and 365 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: we get back on the plane coming home. What is 366 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: Melanie low kind of like thinking about what do you 367 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: hope you reflect on out of this experience. 368 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 2: Probably a little sleep deprived at that time, so I'm 369 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 2: probably thinking of getting a quick nap on the flight. 370 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 2: But you know, we make sure we have everybody accounted for, 371 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 2: and once you know that they're all on the plane, 372 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 2: it's it's the best feeling to know we just did that. 373 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 2: You know, we collectively as a staff as a team, 374 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 2: and hopefully we will get that win. I know we 375 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 2: will get that win, and that's an even better feeling 376 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 2: just to get on that plane and just know everything 377 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 2: went smoothly. 378 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 3: You did your part in you know, getting the team 379 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 3: to win. 380 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 2: And yeah, probably sleep deprived, and once we hand those 381 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 2: passports back out at the airport or we are good, 382 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 2: it's a good feeling. 383 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: Something you mentioned you did an interview with NFL dot 384 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: com I believe it was last year, and something you 385 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: mentioned it was just like that feeling of being something 386 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: bigger than yourself, and that I think you just sort 387 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: of described it there of like, yes, you get on 388 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: the plane and you know, I know I did my 389 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: part to help do this. That's something that's almost like indescribable. 390 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: If you are a part of a not just a 391 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: team of like like an NFL team like the Colts. Yes, 392 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: I mean that's something I know. I feel when I do, 393 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: you know, the streaming announcing. It's like, this is something 394 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: that's way bigger than just me exactly, and that's a 395 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: really cool thing to be a part of in the league. 396 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 2: And truly, I think it wasn't until I went to Frankfurt. 397 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 2: Like you go to games throughout the United States and 398 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 2: they're very very special, don't get me wrong, but there 399 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 2: was something about seeing the stands in Frankfurt and seeing 400 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 2: people from all different countries coming together for one event, 401 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 2: specifically to watch two teams play, and it's just incredible. 402 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 2: Like bringing people together and knowing you were a small 403 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 2: part of that bigger picture is incredible and it's something 404 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 2: really special and I'm grateful the NFL is doing because 405 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 2: it brings you. You know, we still talk to our 406 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 2: hotel contacts and our friends in Frankfort and those are lifetime, 407 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 2: lifelong friends that you make throughout this process that are 408 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 2: just you can't put, you know, put it into words. 409 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: I think you also mentioned that NFL dot Com interview 410 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 1: the International Games are a they're the super Bowl for 411 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 1: football operations. I mean doing it twice now in the 412 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: span of three years for you, that has to be 413 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: a pretty significant career accomplishment. 414 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 2: It is pretty exciting. I can't alli to you being 415 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 2: on this trip here. It's just it's a pinch me 416 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:34,959 Speaker 2: moments that you get to plan something this large and 417 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 2: to do it twice in two years, like you're saying, 418 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 2: it is just incredible. It is like the Super Bowl, 419 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 2: you know, one day, I'm really excited to hopefully plan that. 420 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 2: But until then, I mean, this is a really large 421 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 2: thing and we're looking forward to it. We're really excited, 422 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 2: and having done it recently makes it that much just 423 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 2: a little bit easier. 424 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: All right, Melani Low, director of football Operations for the Colts, 425 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 1: thanks for being our guest here on the Colt Show. 426 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me all. 427 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: Right back here on the Colts Show. So we talked 428 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 1: about the Germany game. We now know obviously that is 429 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: the Colts playing the Atlanta Falcons on November ninth, in 430 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: Week ten at Olympic Stadium in Berlin. When Millenia and 431 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 1: I tape that as we talked about we didn't know 432 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 1: who the opponent was going to be or when the 433 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 1: game was going to be. If you want a full 434 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: breakdown of the Colts twenty twenty five regular season schedule, 435 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 1: check out Instant Reaction that is out right now on 436 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 1: all platforms, or you get your Colts podcasts YouTube, Spotify, 437 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts. 438 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 3: Go check that out. 439 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 1: Casey Valier and Lara Overton broke down every game that 440 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: the Colts will play this season, So I'm gonna leave 441 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: the breakdown of the regular season two Case and Learra 442 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,479 Speaker 1: on that podcast. So again, go check out Instant Reaction. 443 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: But I do want to get to the Colt Show 444 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: mail bag. Remember you can submit your questions a couple 445 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 1: of ways on Colts dot com Slash mailbag. You can 446 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 1: tweet them at me, you can slide into my Instagram 447 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: dms if that's your thing, or you can leave a 448 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: comment on the YouTube video of this podcast. This week's 449 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 1: question comes from Brian Carter from Arnoldsburg, West Virginia. A 450 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 1: really good question here. Brian writes, I believe Tyler Warren 451 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: is the critical piece that the Colts offense has been missing. 452 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 1: I personally hope that he will unlock Anthony Richardson's potential 453 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 1: as a high level quarterback, But knowing the styles that 454 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 1: we have seen from both Richardson and Daniel Jones, I'm 455 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: afraid that Jones will benefit more from having that short 456 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: over the middle option in the passing game. My question 457 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: is which quarterback do you think will benefit more from 458 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,479 Speaker 1: adding Warren to the offense and what will that look like. 459 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 1: This is a really really good question, and I've got 460 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: a couple one similar to it over the last couple 461 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 1: of weeks, where, like I think, on its surface, I 462 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 1: think the answer that Brian is hinting at here is 463 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: it's gonna benefit Daniel Jones Moore, where Jones is the 464 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: guy who's more likely to throw the ball between zero 465 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: and twenty yards beyond the line of scrimmage, right. But 466 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: I think that this is interesting from the sense that 467 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: how does Warren impact Anthony Richardson? Because I think, you know, 468 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 1: you look at what Warren could do with a quarterback 469 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:13,880 Speaker 1: who's gonna kind of pepper that yardage, and you might 470 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: be thinking, in your upper upper level case, that's kind 471 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: of what Gardner, Minshew and Aidan O'Connell did last year 472 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: with Brock Bauers with the Las Vegas Raiders, where Bowers 473 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 1: broke Mike Ditka's rookie receptions record for a tight end. 474 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: I think for Richardson, though, I think you need to 475 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:33,719 Speaker 1: view it holistically. With this offense, where Richardson's gonna get 476 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: the ball to Tyler Warren, we haven't seen Anthony Richardson 477 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: with a tight end like Tyler Warren who can control 478 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 1: the middle of the field. So first and foremost, it's 479 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: like a is it like a cant or won't thing 480 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,719 Speaker 1: with Anthony Richardson in that part of the field. Where 481 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 1: is it he wasn't able to over the last couple 482 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: of years or is that not a strength of his game? 483 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: I think we're going to figure that out this year 484 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 1: if Tyler Warren is the player the Colts believe he is. 485 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: But the other part of it is this will have 486 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: this again, it's this is gravitational effect on the Colts offense. 487 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: Where a view of a guy who can control the 488 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: middle of the field ten to twenty yards in between 489 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:14,719 Speaker 1: the numbers, that opens up more for a Michael Pittman 490 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 1: junior at Josh Downs and ad Mitchell and Alec Pierce 491 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 1: to be more effective wide receivers. Defenses just are they're 492 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: gonna have to change the way they play, where if okay, 493 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: you know, if your linebackers aren't getting good depth and 494 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: you know your safeties have to be on the same page, 495 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: maybe there's a room for Tyler Warren in there, or 496 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 1: maybe your safeties can't be as wide to take try 497 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,199 Speaker 1: to take away those deep shots to Alec Pierce. So 498 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: that's gonna be just like, I don't know how it's 499 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 1: gonna look, I really don't know, but I think there's 500 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 1: a world in which Tyler Warren almost maybe has more 501 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 1: of an impact with Anthony richards And this is again, 502 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: if everything works out, he almost has more of an impact, 503 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,959 Speaker 1: not because of the receptions and the yards that he's getting, 504 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 1: but because of just the impact he has on the 505 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 1: entire Colts offense. That right there, I'm fascinated to see 506 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: how it plays out. And again, look, if it is 507 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones and Warren is the player who I think 508 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 1: we all think he can be, even as a rookie, 509 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: he probably is gonna get quite a few catches. But 510 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: that doesn't necessarily mean that the offense is going to 511 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: be better with Jones and Warren than with Richardson and Warren. 512 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 1: It just might be different. And I think you know, 513 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: there are different strengths, different weaknesses. If the Colts are 514 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 1: going to be an explosive offense, though, and it's Richardson 515 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: behind center, Warren in there can help this offense be 516 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: more explosive, even if he's not gonna get ninety catches 517 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: or whatever you know Bowers had last year, whatever it 518 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 1: was so really interested to just again, it's that gravitational pull. 519 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: And you know, for Brian's question here, I think they'll 520 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: both benefit. And I think that's kind of a lame answer, 521 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: but I think they both will benefit. They're just gonna 522 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 1: benefit in different ways, if that makes sense. All right, Again, 523 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: really good question. Shout out to Brian Carner from Arnoldsburg, 524 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: West Virginia. Remember submit those questions to me on social media, 525 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: get him in at Coults dot com, slash mailbag and 526 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: in the YouTube comments of this episode. We're gonna be 527 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: back next week. And speaking of Tyler Warren got a 528 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: really fun episode coming out next Thursday for you guys. 529 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: I had a chance to talk with James Franklin, head 530 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: coach at Penn State about Tyler Warren. Had a really 531 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 1: interesting chat, great insight. I mean, who better to give 532 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 1: us some insight into who Tyler Warren is as a 533 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: player and as a person than the guy who coached 534 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 1: him for the last four years at Penn State in 535 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: James Franklin. That episode will be out a week from today, 536 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: and be sure to also check out the latest episode 537 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: of High Volume with Jeffrey Gorman that's out on YouTube, 538 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: that's out on wherever you get your podcasts. All of 539 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 1: the above, and again check out the schedule release episode 540 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: of Instant Reaction wherever you get your colts podcasts. That's 541 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: gonna do it for this episode of the Cult Show 542 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis Colts podcast, I'm JJ Stankowitz. Talk to you 543 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 1: next week here on The Coach Show.