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Speaker 1: Here we go, hour two. It's Friday. About fifteen minutes

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady stops by, I'll be joining us live. He's

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Speaker 1: doing the game, seven time Super Bowl champ, Big big Game,

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Speaker 1: Big Sandwich game, make a sandwich sit down for three

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Speaker 1: and a half four hours. Ram Seahawks meet for a

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Speaker 1: third time. I said this yesterday is if I mean

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Speaker 1: you didn't get I mean, if that controversial catch no

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Speaker 1: catch call went Buffalo's way, you'd get Buffalo, New England

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Speaker 1: for a third time. And so, you know, a lot

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Speaker 1: of the NFL is hard to predict. Seattle and the

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Speaker 1: Rams about week seven, eight nine felt like they were

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Speaker 1: just you know, Philadelphia was good but couldn't get their

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Speaker 1: offense together. You know, there were good teams. Green Bay

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Speaker 1: was good, but you know people were complaining they're not

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Speaker 1: they're running games, not substantial and then they make you know,

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Speaker 1: and the Mica thing, he gets hurt and you're like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's not going to work. And San Francisco was good offensively,

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Speaker 1: but defensively lose Fred Warner. They don't have Bosa. So

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Speaker 1: if you really go back to like week seven, eight, nine, ten,

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Speaker 1: it kind of felt and then the Rams at the

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Speaker 1: end of the year didn't quite feel like they were

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Speaker 1: buttoned up. And then last weekend they go out, they

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Speaker 1: don't have a drop pass, a penalty or a turnover

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Speaker 1: against Chicago and literally had to play perfect to win.

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Speaker 1: So you know, over the course of a journey, what

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Speaker 1: we have is I think the two most consistent for

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Speaker 1: the most weeks during the regular season, Seattle Rams were

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Speaker 1: the best teams in the NFC didn't have huge holes.

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Speaker 1: Rams specialty teams are dubious, but every third game it

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Speaker 1: costs him something. Secondary is not great New England. I

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Speaker 1: think their personnels better than everybody else thinks. I think

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Speaker 1: their secondary is fantastic, their coaching's fantastic, and Drake May

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Speaker 1: May be that guy. Maybe, you know, we start talking

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Speaker 1: about quarterback play. If Drake May gets to a Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl and wins, it he's a top five quarterback, is

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Speaker 1: he not. I mean, that's what Mahomes does. That's what

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Speaker 1: the great ones do. They get to the Super Bowls

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Speaker 1: early and they win them early. That's very very rare.

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Speaker 1: So as I'm prone to do when I get five

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Speaker 1: or six times a year, you get into these massive games,

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Speaker 1: I get at the out the yellow pad, and I

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Speaker 1: rank the top ten players, and generally the team that

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Speaker 1: that wins the game. And here we go with the

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Speaker 1: NFC Championship. Number ten, number ten, Pooniford, Pooni Ford Rams.

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Speaker 1: He was a Charger and he was a really good player.

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Speaker 1: He's been sensational. In fact, he is the Rams' highest

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Speaker 1: graded defensive player, right next to Kobe Turner in that

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Speaker 1: interior D line. Just an incredibly impactful offseason move. And listen,

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Speaker 1: it's hard to run on the Rams, and one of

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Speaker 1: the reasons is Poona Ford. He's at ten, number nine

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Speaker 1: Kevin Dotson, second highest grinted guard in the league, top

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Speaker 1: ten run blocker. They stole him from Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh was

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Speaker 1: not reportedly going to start him. He has been sensational

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Speaker 1: for the Rams since he arrived, so the Rams guards

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Speaker 1: to me, is the best guard combination in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: and Kevin Dotson is outstanding. Number eight Jared Verse. People

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Speaker 1: think he's having a down year. He leads the NFL

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Speaker 1: and quarterback hits he ranks top five and pressures including

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. The reality is he's disruptive and Sean mcvayh

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Speaker 1: on sacks, but pressure and hits, Jared Vers is elite.

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Speaker 1: He's number eight. Number seven Kyen Williams had a fumbling

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Speaker 1: issue well, fourteen straight games without one. Fourth highest graded

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Speaker 1: You can tell that McVeigh. Even with Stafford and Puka

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Speaker 1: thirty plus scrimmage yards in three of his last four games.

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Speaker 1: I remember mis Michigan State. He was very good after contact,

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Speaker 1: Sam Donald ranked fourth in the league in big time throws.

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Speaker 1: has He can be reckless, you know, I loved Andrew

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Speaker 1: luck Stafford can be two, but man, Sam Donald wins

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Speaker 1: Devin Witherspoon, cornerback Seattle, not allowed a touchdown in coverage

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Speaker 1: draft preview and they're like, oh, like he's he's physical,

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Speaker 1: the best corner in this league. He just is great

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Speaker 1: and keeps getting better. Number three JSN Jackson, Smith and

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Speaker 1: Jigbu led the NFL and receiving yards in his first

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Speaker 1: season as number one. Second highest gridded wide receiver. Remarkable hands, runs,

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Speaker 1: great routes unlike DK Metcalf the route tree does it all,

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Speaker 1: never drops passes, very elusive, very clever. Does he have

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Speaker 1: Is he makes really good corners get crossed up. He

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Speaker 1: is just a sensational NFL player. Number two Matt Stafford,

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Speaker 1: highest quidded quarterback, can be a bit reckless on a

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Speaker 1: seven to two career playoff record with the Rams with

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Speaker 1: five come from behind playoff wins. He plays bigger in

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Speaker 1: big moments. Now he's got Davonte Adams and Pooka in

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Speaker 1: a good run game, but he led the NFL in

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Speaker 1: passing yards. He is my MVP. The no look passes.

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Speaker 1: You know he's not super mobile, and you'd prefer he

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Speaker 1: has more mobiley. I don't know if he had I

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Speaker 1: don't think he had a rushing first down this year.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of the flaw, and he could be a

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Speaker 1: bit reckless. He's at two number one Pooka, highest receiving

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Speaker 1: yards per game in league history, averages ninety five, highest

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Speaker 1: quidded player in the entire league this year, led the

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Speaker 1: over his last five games. I think he has the

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Speaker 1: strongest hands I've ever seen on any receiver. He can

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Speaker 1: when he has the ball, you're not getting it. Incredibly

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Speaker 1: strong player, almost no body fat like, just does everything well.

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Speaker 1: The routes yards after the catch, Incredibly strong hands can

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Speaker 1: beat you deep lethal underneath. So the top two players

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Speaker 1: are Rams three through six. Of the Seahawks seven through

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Speaker 1: ten are the Rams. Number eleven I have Kobe Turner

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Speaker 1: for the Rams twelve, thirteen, fourteen to fifteen all Seahawks,

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Speaker 1: so pretty evenly split on the best players.

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Speaker 1: When I look at this, I could have gone fifteen easily,

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Speaker 1: and it would have been about eight seven Rams. That's

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Speaker 1: what it kind of fell. Eight seven Seahawks, eight seven Rams,

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Speaker 1: Kobe Turner was number eleven. I think I had Leonard

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Speaker 1: think think it's interesting. The one you all want to

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Speaker 1: Everybody abouts to push back on that. Greg Cosel talked

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Speaker 3: Walker's been much better.

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Speaker 4: Walker has been attacking downhill much more so over the

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Speaker 4: stay on schedule. And it's also with their defense allowed

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Speaker 4: Donald not to have to throw that many balls. Now,

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Speaker 4: whether that happens in this game, that's hard to know.

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Speaker 4: You don't know how it's going to play out. But

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Speaker 4: in an ideal world, I don't think they want Sam

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Speaker 4: Donald dropping back thirty five times. I think they wanted

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Seattle's defense statistically better, Seattle's special teams better. You know,

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Speaker 1: the offense for the Rams was number one in the league.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's a shot at Donald. There's very

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Speaker 1: few quarterback Tom Brady can throw forty times, Mahomes can

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Speaker 1: very rare. That I'm you know, Aaron Mahomes Brady didn't

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Speaker 1: throw a lot of picks. You start asking guys to

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Speaker 1: throw forty forty two forty three times, that means the

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Speaker 1: I think is good for most quarterbacks. Slinging Sammy d

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Speaker 1: two and a half point favorite at home, third time

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Speaker 1: he's faced the Rams this year. Tom Brady around the Corner.

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Speaker 1: You know, Seattle is one of those teams that they

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Speaker 1: smell blood, and you get this a lot of times

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Speaker 1: when you get a kind of a young athletic team.

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Speaker 1: Young teams tend to play with a lot of emotion,

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Speaker 1: and they can get down on themselves. They can get

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Speaker 1: a little reckless at times when you're a young team,

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Speaker 1: but they also when a young team is feeling it,

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Speaker 1: like last week the Seahawks Niners. You're about eight minutes in,

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Speaker 1: You're like, it's like twenty three year old Mike Tyson duck.

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Speaker 1: There's no winners and Seattle. You don't want to let

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Speaker 1: Seattle start playing like that because young teams play with

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Speaker 1: so much energy and emotion. Tom Brady, he'll be calling rams.

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Speaker 1: See what a year for Tom? We only give them

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Speaker 1: a good games. He's got an all time classic. I

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Speaker 1: can't wait for this thing. So I've said this about

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Speaker 1: the Seahawks all year. If you turn the sound down

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Speaker 1: on your TV. They just look faster and athletic and longer,

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Speaker 1: and they're young, and young teams play with a lot

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Speaker 1: of energy, and it's do you agree with that? And

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Speaker 1: if you're the Rams, how do you game plan against

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Speaker 1: You know, I believe coaching has a greater impact than

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Speaker 1: You won a Super Bowl first year in Tampa, Stafford

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Speaker 7: Well, there's a lot of newness to the year, and

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Speaker 3: You're you're talking about teams that are in the same

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Speaker 3: That's as tight as it gets.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's go New England, a franchise, you know

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Speaker 1: Jared Stidham, he was your backup for a year. Give

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Speaker 7: You know, I've always loved STITTI He's a very natural

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Speaker 3: So there's really four good.

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Speaker 3: This has got to be clean football.

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Speaker 1: I think the most underrated trait for great quarterbacks isn't arm, speed,

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Speaker 1: And I think that's your humility. I see, Drake May.

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Speaker 7: If you're not humble, this game will humble you. And

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Speaker 7: That means you've got to be at your best, which

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Speaker 7: Everything that comes out of his mouth is always about

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Speaker 7: in service to other people. It's not what can you

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Speaker 7: do for me, It's what can I do for you?

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Speaker 7: How can I be the best to support your dreams,

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Speaker 7: your goals, your vision, whether that's supporting your coach or

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Speaker 7: supporting your offensive lineman, supporting your receivers. True leadership is

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Speaker 7: about humility, because true leadership is about service and how

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Speaker 7: do I show up every day to be the best

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Speaker 7: I can be for my teammates. That really should be

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Speaker 7: the lesson for all quarterbacks in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Forty five seconds because you got to go. You got

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Speaker 1: a big I imagine a zoom meeting with McVeigh. You

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Speaker 1: gotta pepper because.

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Speaker 3: You know everything. You know my whole schedule.

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Speaker 1: I got to ask you this though. Everybody in the

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Speaker 1: world saw you watching Fernando Mendez, who I absolutely love.

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Speaker 1: What's just your What did you see from him? What

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Speaker 1: did you see from the quarterback?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? It was. It was also a great experience.

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Speaker 7: Obviously I live in Miami, so it was a thirty

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Speaker 7: minute drive to the game and I and the fact

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Speaker 7: that they playing in the game and all worked out.

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Speaker 7: My son wanted to go to the game. I brought him.

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Speaker 7: We sat up there in the suite and got to

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Speaker 7: be on the field in the pre game.

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Speaker 3: And have just observed, and I.

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Speaker 7: Haven't been to a college football game and so long,

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Speaker 7: I haven't been never been to a national championship game,

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Speaker 7: but just to see kind of the environment, the atmosphere,

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Speaker 7: you know, did it feel too big for anybody? And

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Speaker 7: he's played tremendous, you know, all season sixteen and oh

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Speaker 7: leading his team. And again he's another guy that you

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Speaker 7: know when you hear him speak, you know, I always

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Speaker 7: kind of judge quarterbacks that go, how would I have

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Speaker 7: answered that? And he's just a very mature young man,

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Speaker 7: and he's got a bright future. And you know, everybody

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Speaker 7: coming to the league there's still so much room for development.

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Speaker 3: Nobody's a finished product. I don't care whether.

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Speaker 7: You're won the Heisman or you're the one hundred ninety

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Speaker 7: ninth pick in the draft. It's what do you do

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Speaker 7: when you get there? How important is this to you?

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Speaker 7: Are you obsessed with your job? Are you obsessed with

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Speaker 7: being the best you can? Be these young men, whether

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Speaker 7: it's Fernando where a lot of other players that were

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Speaker 7: on the field the other night, they have a great

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Speaker 7: opportunity to do something in their life, to enhance their

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Speaker 7: families life, to go impact a community in a positive

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Speaker 7: way by playing great football and bringing joy to the

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Speaker 7: fan base. And that's a job you take very seriously.

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Speaker 7: So all these young prospects, I hope they go to

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Speaker 7: environments that embrace them completely, that can help them develop

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Speaker 7: into the best player they can be. That's how I was,

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Speaker 7: you know, kind of grew up in the league. I

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Speaker 7: found a great environment. It was all about football. It

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Speaker 7: was about, you know, like you mentioned earlier, about how

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Speaker 7: can you be the best teammate, how can you work hard,

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Speaker 7: how can you play smart, how can you play tough,

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Speaker 7: how can you play well under pressure? How well can

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Speaker 7: you play in tough conditions? And then ultimately how well

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Speaker 7: can you play in championship games? And all those things

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Speaker 7: remain to be seen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Tom, crush it, you got probably the best football

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Speaker 1: game of the year. Say how to KB and the staff.

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Speaker 1: You guys have done a remarkable job this year. And

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Speaker 1: Sean mcvays around the corner on Zoom Go get it done.

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Speaker 3: Come on it. Thanks to I appreciate, good to see it,

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Speaker 3: Good to see you.

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Speaker 1: Tom shows up has been for several weeks here in

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Speaker 1: a row. Yeah, man, that is, Drake May and Mendoza

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Speaker 1: have a lot in common. Like just like seemed like

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Speaker 1: a really good come from good stock, good kids, grateful,

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Speaker 1: humble at the podium. That stuff matters, It matters. Uh

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Speaker 1: jmak with the news.

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Speaker 2: No turns. This is the headline news.

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Speaker 8: All right, let's bust right into it. The NFL Coach

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Speaker 8: of the Year finalists were announced yesterday and in a

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Speaker 8: mild surprise, Mike vrabel is a heavy favorite at minus

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Speaker 8: four hundred, followed by Mike McDonald, Liam Cohen, who would

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Speaker 8: be my call, and then Ben Johnson of the Bears,

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Speaker 8: who probably would be my number two call.

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Speaker 1: Liam Cohen didn't win a playoff game.

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Speaker 8: So what does it matter? I mean, Liam Cohen the

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Speaker 8: regular season, he was tremendous. They won four games last

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Speaker 8: year regular and now they won thirteen. Well, if it's

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Speaker 8: playoff award, fine, let's change the title of it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, perty was good in the regular season.

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Speaker 1: Two I like postseason guys a little different that way.

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Speaker 8: I mean listen. Rabel is a veteran coach and he's

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Speaker 8: been excellent.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know.

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Speaker 8: Ben Johnson was pretty damn good in the postseason.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we just give it up.

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Speaker 1: I would Ben Johnson would be my two. Vrabel one

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Speaker 1: Ben two. Interesting.

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Speaker 8: All right, let's move to the next story, and that

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Speaker 8: is Seahawks Rams. We're gonna keep hitting it all day, Colin.

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Speaker 8: It is the game of the weekend. The Rams lead

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Speaker 8: the NFL and scoring a thirty point five points per game,

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Speaker 8: number one offense in the league versus the number one defense, Seattle,

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Speaker 8: averaging a league best seventeen point two points per game.

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Speaker 8: It is a classic matchup offense versus defense. I think

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Speaker 8: there's a couple of angles here not being covered. I'll

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Speaker 8: get to in headline's next hour. But you know, this

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Speaker 8: defense of Seattle is pretty nasty. And yet in Week sixteen,

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Speaker 8: a month ago, the Rams went over for five hundred yards.

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Speaker 1: Of offense, Like Stafford was just unbelievable.

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Speaker 8: No Defonte Adams in the game.

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Speaker 1: He's back, by the way.

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Speaker 8: I had to check is DeVante? I asked the staff

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Speaker 8: is DeVante Adam still alive? Because somehow he didn't make

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Speaker 8: your top ten or top fifteen.

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Speaker 1: He was no, he's it was. I think it was

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Speaker 1: Kobe Turner was eleven. I didn't write it down. I mean, again,

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Speaker 1: you're talking about he was dinged up a little bit.

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Speaker 1: It's hard you get down to these pilights. I always

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Speaker 1: give like an interior old lineman gets no love, and

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Speaker 1: like you know, you find miners with the Broncos, like

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Speaker 1: the highest rated guard, Kevin Dotson's been unbelievable for the Rams.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna put those guys, those guys get I don't

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Speaker 1: want it to be all quarterbacks and receivers. I mean,

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Speaker 1: like Pooka and Jasent are insane, but it's it's.

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Speaker 8: And I did.

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Speaker 1: I did star quarterbacks and star receivers. But the guys

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Speaker 1: in the trenches. Poona Ford, no nobody talks about him.

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Speaker 1: He's been a monster this year. He's been unbelieve just.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he was a good charger. I can't believe

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Speaker 1: how good he is.

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Speaker 8: I didn't get a chance to pick apart the list,

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Speaker 8: but I don't recall seeing Nate Landman, who, for my money,

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Speaker 8: is the best linebacker in this gig. Again, you know

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Speaker 8: Seattle good linebackers, but land Man is just whatch citty mean?

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Speaker 1: People forget I mean Murphy and Leonard Williams for the

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Speaker 1: Seahawks on the interior. Can't you can't run on Seattle.

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Speaker 1: Those guys were like twelve thirteen. For me, it's there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of dudes.

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Speaker 8: This game is tremendous. Final story con Let's go to

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Speaker 8: John Harbaugh. He is the new New York Giants coach.

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Speaker 8: You are all aboard. I think you're the conductor of

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Speaker 8: the New York Giants train right now. Well, guess what.

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Speaker 8: Jackson Dart is his quarterback. He only had one season.

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Speaker 8: He was living in the blue tent. But John Harbaugh

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Speaker 8: is already saying great things about Jackson Dart, that he's

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Speaker 8: about football. I wonder if that's a daget lamar.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 8: Reportedly, Dart and Harball had a conversation during his final

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Speaker 8: interview at the facility and was going so well it

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Speaker 8: had to be broken up because it was running nearly

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Speaker 8: two hours long. A bromance emerges between Dart and Harbaugh.

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Speaker 8: Colin Dart says he cannot wait to play for his

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Speaker 8: new coach. I know you're excited.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I this is not any you would

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Speaker 1: think as a four win team, Oh boy, is a

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Speaker 1: big lift. They were in seven to one score losses.

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Speaker 1: They led by double digits in the fourth quarter over

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Speaker 1: I think it was Chicago, Detroit, and Denver. I don't

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Speaker 1: think this is a massive lift. I think they got

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Speaker 1: to get better deeper at wide receiver, better at right tackle,

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Speaker 1: and like everybody not named Seattle, better in the secondary.

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Speaker 1: But I think they're really close. I really do. I

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Speaker 1: think they lost a lot. I mean, for a rookie

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Speaker 1: quarterback to lose seven games. I talked about Drake May

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Speaker 1: when I picked New England to be the surprise team

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. One of the things I said was

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Speaker 1: New England lost with Gerrod Mayo like six or seven

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Speaker 1: to one score games. Vrabel was going to flip those.

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Speaker 1: Drake May year two was gonna flip those. Jackson Dart

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Speaker 1: is not going to lose seven to one score games.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna win half of those, just because Jackson Dart's

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Speaker 1: got another camp. So, I mean, let's say this isn't

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Speaker 1: all about hardball. Jackson Dart now is going to be

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Speaker 1: a better quarterback with a better right tackle.

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Speaker 8: It is kind of interesting that Harball's weakness the last

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Speaker 8: few years was blowing double digit leads. Remember with Lamar,

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Speaker 8: that's a big knock on him. I will listen. I

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Speaker 8: don't people know I'm a Jets fan. I don't want

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Speaker 8: to be hammering the Giants here, but I'll just say

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Speaker 8: this Harball stuff. We saw his brother do it right.

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Speaker 8: Jim Harball absolutely loved his guy at Michigan j J. McCarthy.

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Speaker 8: I take a number one. He goes to Justin Herbert

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Speaker 8: effuse of praise. Maybe it's a Harball trade, but I

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Speaker 8: don't remember John Harbaugh being this gushy about Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 8: And I wonder if that fracture that happened at the end,

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Speaker 8: whatever went down, is channeling it into Hey, this is

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Speaker 8: a different guy that I just had for five six

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Speaker 8: years in Baltimore.

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Speaker 2: And I wonder if these are.

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Speaker 8: Subtle shots at Lamar, because we know social media is

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Speaker 8: a big one for athletes.

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Speaker 2: Have you seen Lamar?

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Speaker 8: I'm gonna miss you, John, we had a great run. Nothing, huh.

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Speaker 8: I haven't seen a damn thing. That's surprising. That's how

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Speaker 8: the young guys talk now. It's all on social media.

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Speaker 1: That's a pretty good point. But I do here, buddy, Yeah, Yes,

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Speaker 1: you do all the time. No, I think I think

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Speaker 1: Baltimore had a choice and they chose the quarterback. I

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Speaker 1: think I do think there were fissures. I think they

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Speaker 1: made a choice and their choice Steve Bashatti chose the

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Speaker 1: star player.

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Speaker 8: Even Kyler Murray in Arizona gave a shout out to

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Speaker 8: Gann and even though Ginning kind of sort of soft benching,

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Speaker 8: Kyler Burray went on on one on social media and

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Speaker 8: was like, hey, we had a good run. I'll miss

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Speaker 8: your coach, blah blah blah, Like that's kind of what

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Speaker 8: you do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fair, that's fair. Uh Jmack with the news.

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Speaker 5: Well, that's the news, and thanks for stopping by The

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Speaker 8: Fox College Hoops Friday has a big ten rivalry tipping

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Speaker 8: off in prime time as Ohio State battles Yatzel and

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Speaker 8: the Bourne and number three Michigan tonight eight eastern on Fox.

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Speaker 8: That's a great game, coward, by the way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, part of the joy of this Seattle, uh donald game,

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Speaker 1: and it's you know I've said this before. I root

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Speaker 1: for the better story. We talk about this all the time,

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Speaker 1: like the Bears beating the Rams is probably the better story.

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Speaker 1: Like so to me, it was like, now I know people,

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Speaker 1: a lot of people in the Rams building. I respect him.

651
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Speaker 1: I remember once New England played Seattle, and you know,

652
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Speaker 1: my family's all Seattle, and I grew up with the Seahawks,

653
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Speaker 1: but I lived in Connecticut and it was like it

654
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Speaker 1: was the only super Bowl. I was like, I just

655
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Speaker 1: give me a fun game and ended up being a

656
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Speaker 1: remarkable game. And I feel the same way about anytime

657
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Speaker 1: Seattle plays with Sam Darnald in the Rams, like I

658
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: just want a great game. I think it's you know,

659
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Speaker 1: and you're saying, now, Colin, you want Donald to win.

660
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Speaker 1: All I've ever said about Sam he's too talented not

661
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Speaker 1: to be successful in the NFL. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: he's gonna win a super Bowl. He may not be

663
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Speaker 1: a super Bowl quarterback, but Nick Foles won a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: I think Sam's better than Nick Foles. Stan Humphries, you know,

665
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Speaker 1: trend Dilfer, Like, you know, I mean respectfully, I mean

666
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Speaker 1: I think Sam's a better athlete. You don't always have

667
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Speaker 1: to be a superstar to win a super Bowl. But

668
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Speaker 1: the reckless opinion, my take is yeah, I think he

669
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Speaker 1: can be, especially against the Rams. But Matt Stafford before

670
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Speaker 1: last week was on a seven game, seven pick that

671
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Speaker 1: was his streak. And for the record, l way through picks.

672
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Speaker 1: I mean, Brady and Mahomes and Aaron Rodgers were unique.

673
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Speaker 1: You get the upside and not a lot of picks,

674
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Speaker 1: especially with like Mahomes and Rogers, you don't get any picks.

675
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Speaker 1: That's very, very rare. The Peyton Manning threw him, and

676
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Speaker 1: Eli threw him, and I think Tom even Tom's touchdown

677
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 1: interception ratio, I think it's like three to one, So

678
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:57,879
Speaker 1: you know, he threw a pick six in a super Bowl.

679
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Speaker 1: It's not the end of the world, but it is.

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Speaker 1: I what's what I think the Seattle Donald proves two teams,

681
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Speaker 1: two coaches, two rosters, two staffs, great with both. I

682
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Speaker 1: think you have to give it up to You could

683
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Speaker 1: argue obviously Minnesota and Pittsburgh could add Donald. They passed.

684
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: A lot of people felt like, well he had justin Jefferson.

685
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:27,399
Speaker 1: He can't say that anymore. I mean, DK metcalf gone JSN.

686
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 1: I mean, did we think he was going to be

687
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Speaker 1: this good. Well he is with Donald's a brand new team.

688
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 1: It's one of the youngest team, second youngest team in

689
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Speaker 1: the league. And I also think this is hard. Stafford

690
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 1: and McVeigh have been together now what five years. They

691
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Speaker 1: can complete their sentences. This is still the first year.

692
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,280
Speaker 1: Like when Brady went to Tampa, remember that. I remember

693
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Speaker 1: a Thursday night game and he's screaming it with the

694
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Speaker 1: offensive line for the Bears. They're seven and five going

695
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 1: into a bye. He and Arians don't see the world. Similarly,

696
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: this stuff's hard. In year one, Stafford wins the Super Bowl.

697
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,720
Speaker 1: Year one with the Rams, he led the league in picks.

698
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:09,479
Speaker 1: So get and those are the success stories. Seven and five,

699
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 1: Tom going into a buy, struggling with Arians offense and

700
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Speaker 1: Matt leading the league in picks, and those are the

701
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 1: all time great success stories. Year one with a new team.

702
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: So Tom Brady on the challenges with Darnold or ever

703
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 1: being with a new team and a new.

704
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 7: Year, new location, new practice format, new receivers, new offensive line,

705
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 7: new line calls, new center, all the things that you

706
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Speaker 7: kind of take for granted when you have continuity.

707
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 3: When I went to Tampa, all those things were totally different.

708
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Speaker 7: You get familiar with the skill players, That's what I

709
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 7: did first. Then you get familiar with the center I

710
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 7: had Ryan Jensen. In that offseason, we spent thirty days

711
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Speaker 7: working on snaps and snap counts. It took us, you know,

712
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 7: twelve games to feel like we were starting to get

713
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Speaker 7: familiar with the things we were really good at and

714
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Speaker 7: also to put aside the things that we weren't good at,

715
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Speaker 7: so that the time that the you know, December came

716
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Speaker 7: in the end of the playoffs, we started to play

717
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 7: our best football. Ultimately a culminated in a home super

718
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 7: Bowl against the Chiefs, where we played our best game

719
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Speaker 7: of the season. And I think for Seattle, they're going

720
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Speaker 7: to need to play two games the best they have all.

721
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Speaker 1: Year, and it's hard because it's the best coordinators and

722
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 1: best roster you go up against. I also think, you know,

723
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Speaker 1: the more spectacular plays last weekend were by Caleb and

724
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Speaker 1: the Bears. The more consistent team without the mistakes was

725
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:36,760
Speaker 1: the Rams, and I think the cleanest team, and Rams

726
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,479
Speaker 1: play a cleaner version than Seattle. Seattle's just younger. Younger

727
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 1: teams tend to make more mistakes. I think the cleaner

728
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,720
Speaker 1: version That's why I like the Rams win this game.

729
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: But you know, am I going to be surprised if

730
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Speaker 1: Seattle wins. No, But in these last weekend fewer turnovers

731
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Speaker 1: four for four won every game. Tom talked about. That's

732
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Speaker 1: one of the things that New England always did very well.

733
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Speaker 1: They didn't fumble, and they didn't have a lot of penalties,

734
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Speaker 1: and they didn't have negative plays, and that all comes

735
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Speaker 1: from practice.

736
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Speaker 7: Here's Tom, when you would do like fumbling drills is

737
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Speaker 7: a great example for coach Belichick and kind of his genius.

738
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Speaker 7: If first of all, if you fumbled, you were out

739
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Speaker 7: of the game. All the backs knew that. So we

740
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:21,280
Speaker 7: did so many drills in practice that were about covering

741
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Speaker 7: up the ball, ball security, tackling drills. Not always you

742
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 7: would tack or bring some of the ground, but you

743
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Speaker 7: try to punch the ball out. Bill would actually take

744
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 7: he called them grease balls literally, I know, some silicone

745
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 7: spray that he would spray on the ball and we

746
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 7: would when we would do running plays. He would put

747
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Speaker 7: it in in practice. I would take this greased football,

748
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Speaker 7: give it to the back. He would have to tuck

749
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Speaker 7: the ball, secure it with both hands, the shoulder pads

750
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 7: with hell just so they didn't fumble.

751
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Speaker 1: Yep. And you know again we talked about this. The

752
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Speaker 1: number one factor in building a culture is accountability. You

753
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: fumble your out of the game. And Kyen Williams, by

754
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 1: the way cam Akers, when he was with the Rams

755
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: was really good. He had a fumble issue. They got

756
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: rid of him. Kyen Williams, it felt like a year

757
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: ago start. He had a fumble issue. Tiki Barber for

758
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: years had a fumble issue before Tom Conflin showed up.

759
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Speaker 1: Then suddenly he didn't. So Kyen Williams when he doesn't

760
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:29,439
Speaker 1: fumble is really really good. You know, go so many

761
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Speaker 1: good players in this game. I put the top ten

762
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Speaker 1: players in this game up an hour ago. I don't

763
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Speaker 1: have Devonte Adams, I don't have Kobe Turner, I don't

764
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Speaker 1: have Leonard Williams. I mean, there's just so many good players.

765
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Speaker 1: You know, this stuff comes down to who's going to

766
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Speaker 1: be good on third down, who plays cleaner football? You know,

767
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Speaker 1: these are my top ten. Puka Stafford won two, then

768
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Speaker 1: JSN Witherspoon, the corners were a unbelievable player, Darnold Kenneth

769
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 1: Walker and then it's inches not feet. Kyen Williams, Jared Verse,

770
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Speaker 1: Kevin Dotson, Poona Ford at eleven, I had Kobe Turner.

771
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Speaker 1: Then you know, you get into a bunch of Seahawks.

772
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Speaker 1: As Jmack pointed out, where do you put Davonte Adams?

773
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Speaker 1: I had no Byron Young and he has twelve sacks.

774
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Speaker 1: I mean, what do you do? Where do I? I think

775
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: Jared Verse a little harder to bluck. What do you do?

776
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Speaker 1: I mean that's the kind of game it is. So

777
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Speaker 1: a lot of people are saying this is the super Bowl.

778
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Speaker 1: We've seen that before the Western Conference in the NBA

779
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Speaker 1: for years. I mean it feels like two out of

780
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Speaker 1: three years, whoever wins the West, that's the NBA champion.

781
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 1: I mean this year, Detroit and the Knicks are good teams.

782
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,240
Speaker 1: Celtics would be if Tatum was there, they'd be really special.

783
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 1: Philadelphia is interesting, same with Orlando. But it's like if

784
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Speaker 1: you get San Antonio facing Denver or OKC in the West,

785
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Speaker 1: that's the NBA champions. I remember covering the Blazers and

786
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Speaker 1: the Lakers that legendary Kobe de Shaq Ala up Game seven.

787
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 1: I was right behind the basket and I remember covering

788
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: that game in Indiana was next, and you're like, yeah,

789
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: Portland would have beaten Indiana. Lakers beat Indiana. You knew

790
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: the Western Conference Finals was the NBA Finals.

791
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Speaker 8: Another guy you missed. I was just looking him up

792
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 8: on Pro Football Focus Quintin Lake, the safety who was

793
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 8: injured broken elbow. He was playing at an all pro

794
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 8: level early in the season, got injured, came back, struggled

795
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 8: in the first game against Carolina, was really good against

796
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Speaker 8: Chicago on the back end of that defense. He certainly

797
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Speaker 8: top fifteen in this game.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, great player our three J Max got his

799
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Speaker 1: picks Friday,