1 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: We can see it all so clearly, thanks to decades 2 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: of Hollywood films, our image of the wild West is 3 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: pretty defined. Chisel jawed cowboys riding high on horseback, maybe 4 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: a rugged teddy Roosevelt trudging across the Yellowstone Valley, guns 5 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: and leather and sweaty horses. You get the idea. But 6 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: it's not that accurate. In our American mythology, the West 7 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: was a rugged place filled with rugged people. It was 8 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,959 Speaker 1: a place for tough guys and saucy ladies. But those 9 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: weren't the only kinds of folks who lived there. Of course, 10 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: during the pre contact days of Native America, boundaries blurred 11 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: and possibilities loomed. When it came to gender. Many Native 12 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 1: cultures had expansive views on what it meant to inhabit 13 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: a body, and over one hundred and thirty tribes across 14 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: North America showcased some type of gender nonconformity in their community. 15 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: They were known as two spirit people, and for many 16 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: Indigites groups, they were viewed as sacred. They often served 17 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: as healers and medicine folks. They had places of reverence 18 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: in society, but not all people were so accepting European colonizers, 19 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: who came from a very different culture, sought to eradicate 20 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 1: those who didn't conform to their rigid understanding of what 21 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: it meant to be male and female and how one 22 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 1: should be playing out those roles. In fifteen thirteen, for example, 23 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: the Spanish conquistador Vasco Nunez de Balboa sentenced around forty 24 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: gender non conforming indigenous people to death, and as the 25 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: late seventeenth century arrived, French colonizers further denounced and stigmatized 26 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: those practices, casting an oppressive paul over those who defied 27 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: their rigid norms. The dawn of the twentieth century saw 28 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: Western scientists and their creation of the taxonomic system. People 29 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: became obsessed with categories and classifications and figuring out how 30 00:01:56,000 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: to place animals, vegetables, and minerals in little, tiny boxes. 31 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: This led to a lot of people assuming that there 32 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: were right ways to be and wrong ways to be, 33 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: with little room for anything else. Like I said before, 34 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 1: we can see the wild West so clearly we have 35 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: specific assumptions, specific images that try to capture how the 36 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: people in that place and time might have looked and 37 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: dressed and carried themselves. But when it came to the 38 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: Wild Frontier, gender was a lot more complicated than any 39 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 1: of us could imagine. I'm Aaron Manke, and welcome to 40 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 1: the Wild West. In the vast expanse of the frontier 41 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: that is now west central New Mexico, there once lived 42 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: the Zuni tribe. Men and women were assigned distinct responsibilities, 43 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: and yet both enjoyed equal prestige and status. The Zuni 44 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 1: first encountered European colonizers in fifteen forty when Spanish explorers arrived, 45 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: and those Spaniards didn't care much for the tribes traditions, 46 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 1: especially regarding gender roles. In fact, they were pretty confused. 47 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: You see, while European society was firmly rooted in the patriarchy, 48 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: the Zuni followed matriarchal tradition. Men often knitted clothing or 49 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: may jewelry, while the women owned property and were seen 50 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: as the head of the household. But within all of 51 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: this was another important role in the Zuni culture, that 52 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: of a third, more ambiguous gender. Awana Walona, the Zuni 53 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: supreme being and creator of all life, was considered to 54 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: be both male and female. In fact, their foundational beliefs 55 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: celebrated blurred lines the in between, and then in eighteen 56 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: forty nine, a special child was born, we Wa. Wewa 57 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: would become the most renowned Zuni lamana, a person in 58 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: Zuni society who was assigned male at birth but would 59 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: grow up to take on both male and female roles 60 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: and dress for the Zuni people who held those liminal 61 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: in between spaces in such high regard, it was seen 62 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: as a great honor to welcome a lamana into their community. 63 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: Now let me pause here for a moment. The historical 64 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: records show both male and female pronouns have been assigned 65 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: to Weewa's story. In fact, go online and watch or 66 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: listen to modern Zuni historians talk about Weewa, and you'll 67 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: hear either of them used interchangeably. For our journey today, 68 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 1: though we'll be using the gender neutral singular they them, 69 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: which yes, is grammatically correct for anyone who might be 70 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: suddenly worried about the integrity of the English language. Orphaned 71 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: at a young age, Wewa and their brother lived with 72 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 1: a wealthy and influential aunt within the tribe. The siblings 73 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 1: received an education in Zuni traditions, gaining specialized ceremonial knowledge 74 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: and participating in revered cultural rituals. Over time, we Wa 75 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: became skilled in various crafts, excelled in Zuni pottery and weaving, 76 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: eventually bolstering native arts by selling that pottery in those textiles. 77 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 1: According to anthropologist Matilda Cox Stevenson, we WA's extensive knowledge 78 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: of Zuni history and culture are earned them recognition as 79 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: one of the most intelligent individuals in the Peblo. The 80 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: Zuni culture placed great importance on Kachina's, their ancestral spirit beings. 81 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 1: During Kachina ceremonies, we Wa embodied the spirit of ko Lamana, 82 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: symbolizing the harmonious combination of male and female traits and wisdom. 83 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: Of course, those traditions were foreign to a lot of 84 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 1: other people, especially the curious white anthropologists who came to 85 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: study them. Matilda Cox Stevenson and her husband James were 86 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: two of those people. Matilda and we Wa struck up 87 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: what was, depending on your perspective, an unlikely friendship or 88 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: a mutual sense that the other could be useful to them. 89 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: Matilda wanted to make a name for herself by documenting 90 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 1: Zuni culture and introducing Wewa to Washington, d c. Society 91 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: and Wewa wanted to secure protection for their shrinking tribal lands, 92 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: which is why together in eighteen eighty five, they embarked 93 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: on a trip to the nation's capital to see what 94 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: could be done in the name of tribal preservation. During 95 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: their stay, which extended into the summer of eighteen eighty six, 96 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: Wewa learned to speak English and lived under the Stevenson's roof, 97 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 1: But Washington society was unsure of what to think about 98 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: we Wa. Standing roughly six feet tall with long black 99 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: hair gathered into a thick braid and adorned with feathers, 100 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: paired with a traditional calico dress and a dark colored 101 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: woven blanket called a manta, Wewa didn't look like a 102 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 1: typical diplomat. In fact, many people mistook the Lamana for 103 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: a Zuni princess or a high priestess. On June twenty 104 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 1: third of eighteen eighty six, the delegation visited the White House, 105 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 1: and in doing so, Wewa became the first Lamana on 106 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: record to shake hands with an American president. President Cleveland 107 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: and his wife even presented them with a gift, and 108 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 1: despite the language barrier, they asked the President to help 109 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 1: protect the Zuni's interests from American and Mexican settlers who 110 00:06:55,760 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: were encroaching on their land, and President Cleveland agreed. In 111 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 1: the end, Wewa brought the Zuni culture into the public eye, 112 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 1: helping Americans to understand the importance of the tribe's heritage, history, 113 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: and way of life, making Wewa one of the most 114 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: well known Native Americans of the nineteenth century. Custer had 115 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: a secret. In eighteen seventy four, the military leader, then 116 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: a lieutenant colonel, returned from South Dakota's Black Hills, and 117 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: he carried with him some news that would ignite a frenzy, 118 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: the discovery of gold on Native American land. The territory 119 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: where the gold had been found was protected by the 120 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: Treaty of Fort Laramie, an agreement made six years earlier 121 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: in eighteen sixty eight between the Lakota Sioux and the 122 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: US government. Some tribal leaders, though, like Sitting Bull and 123 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: Crazy Horse, didn't agree with the treaty. It asked the 124 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: tribes to give up their nomadic lifestyle and instead depend 125 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: on government aid. As you can imagine, this led to 126 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: conflicts between Settle and people from those tribes. The US 127 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: government had been pressing the Lakota Sioux to sell their 128 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: sacred land to them, but the native peoples had refused, 129 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: so in late eighteen seventy five, the government basically just 130 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: demanded that all Lakota report to reservations, with a deadline 131 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: of January thirty first of eighteen seventy six. If they refused, 132 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: they risked being labeled as hostiles. And still the Lakota 133 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: remained defiant, which is why Custer led his troops into 134 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: the Black Hills in eighteen seventy six. He was there 135 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:34,559 Speaker 1: to force the Sioux onto reservations and claim the gold 136 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: rich land for the United States, and as we all know, 137 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: Custer's last stand was a victory for the Native American 138 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: people and is still remembered today as the US Army's 139 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 1: most devastating defeat in the Plains Indian War. There was 140 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: a survivor, though, a guy named Sergeant John Noonan. He'd 141 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: been left behind at the Yellowstone Depot, ordered to tend 142 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: the cattle there while Custer led the rest of the battle. 143 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: Noonan had joined the cavalry in eighteen seventy Tioo, and 144 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: his dedication and efficiency helped him rise through the ranks. 145 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: But he also had something else going for him, his 146 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: good looks. General Custer's wife, Elizabeth, praised the man's appearance, 147 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: describing him as the most handsome soldier in his company. 148 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: With his deep blue eyes, dark hair, and fair complexion, 149 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: he caught the attention of everyone who met him. Following 150 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 1: the Battle of Little Bighorn, Noonan returned to Fort Abraham 151 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: Lincoln in the Dakota Territory, where he was reunited with 152 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: his wife. Now, if you dig through the records, you'll 153 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: only see the name missus Nash. Were not clear on 154 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: a lot of her background, but historians think that she 155 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: had been married twice before, so perhaps the last name 156 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: came from one of those previous husbands. Now, by all accounts, 157 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: Missus Nash kept an immaculate home. Specifically, her talents with 158 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: laundry earned immense respect with other officers wives, all viying 159 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: for her expertise in cleaning delicate materials. On top of that, 160 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: her culinary skills were celebrated and her presence became required 161 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: at social gathering. And if that weren't enough, missus Nash 162 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: was also a skilled midwife. Her meticulous care and tenderness 163 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: with newborns endeared her to the community. Between her husband 164 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 1: John's dashing good looks and her tall, thin frame with 165 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: dark skin and black hair from her Mexican heritage, they 166 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 1: seemed quite happy to everyone who knew them. The perfect couple, 167 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: if ever there was one, But tragedy struck. When John 168 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: was away on an extended campaign, his wife fell ill 169 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: and passed away on the morning of October thirtieth of 170 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: eighteen seventy eight. We've talked about it before. Of course, 171 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: medicine was more of an art than a science back then, 172 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: and sometimes illness just broke in and stole people from you. 173 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: It was sudden and tragic now, as the story goes, 174 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: Before her death, missus Nash requested that she be buried 175 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: in the clothes she was wearing, but her friends couldn't 176 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: imagine laying her to rest forever in the ratty clothes 177 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: she'd been wearing on her deathbed, so they broke their promise. 178 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: And that's when something unusual happened. You see, during the 179 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: preparation of her body, it was discovered that missus Nash 180 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,959 Speaker 1: was not a woman at all. When John returned the 181 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: following month, he was naturally devastated by the news of 182 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: his wife's death, but he was also unprepared for the 183 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:15,079 Speaker 1: rumors regarding his wife's sex. The men at the fort 184 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: ridiculed and mocked him about it the moment he arrived. Now, 185 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: John insisted that his wife had been a woman, but 186 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 1: no matter what he said, the rumors persisted, and it 187 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 1: wasn't long before someone reportedly disturbed his wife's grave in 188 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: search of answers, and a short time later a few 189 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:34,839 Speaker 1: newspapers wrote that they believed John's story. But for John 190 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: it was too late. Tormented by the relentless and cruel 191 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: harassment from the men of the fort, and unable to 192 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: find peace in the community that he once called home, 193 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: he withdrew from society and eventually fell ill. And then, 194 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 1: one day, not long after, John walked into a blacksmith 195 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: shop at Fort Lincoln, where many of his fellow soldiers 196 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: were already present. As expected, they resumed their usual verbal abuse, 197 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 1: Unable or unwilling to see the damne and the pain 198 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: that they were causing him. Without warning, he pulled out 199 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: his gun and shot himself in the heart. Sadly, it 200 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 1: took John Noonan's death by suicide for those men to 201 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: see what they had done to see the power that 202 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: their words and cruelty had over the well being of 203 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: a member of their community. But in the end, any 204 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: remorse they finally summoned had arrived too late. Tragedy roamed 205 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 1: free across the wild West. But thankfully there are happier 206 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: stories too. In the late eighteen hundreds, for example, one 207 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: particular logger led a fascinating life filled with courage, generosity, 208 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 1: and a well guarded secret. Sammy Williams worked in the 209 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: logging industry in Montana for almost twenty years, and over 210 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: those years, as the logging frontier expanded westward, rough camps 211 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: were set up to accommodate the needs of the lumberjacks 212 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: who made it all happen. Now. Initially, Sammy served as 213 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: both a lumberjack and a cook. As you'd imagine, feeding 214 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: the crew was important, which is why it was a 215 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: role seen as only second place to the superintendent of 216 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 1: the entire camp. The reputation of any camp often hinged 217 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 1: on the quality of the food they provided, and as 218 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: it turns out, Sammy's popularity among the lumberjacks attested to 219 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:22,839 Speaker 1: his culinary talents. Life was good during his time in 220 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: the logging industry. Sammy accumulated significant wealth and property, but 221 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 1: his affluence wasn't self serving. He generously cared for the 222 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: sick and the destitute. In fact, many of the loggers 223 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: were called discovering that Sammy had silently placed unexpected sums 224 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: of money in their pockets during times of need. A 225 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 1: hard worker, an excellent cook, and a generous spirit. But 226 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: there's more. Sammy's linguistic talents were nothing short of outstanding. 227 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 1: It wasn't enough for him to be fluent in English, Norwegian, 228 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: and German, so he also learned the languages of the 229 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: Native American communities in the area. But Sammy also had 230 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: a secret that only came to lights after he passed 231 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: away on December tenth of nineteen oh eight from what 232 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 1: some believed to be a stroke. The following day, undertaker 233 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: George R. Safley discovered that the beloved lumberjack was female. 234 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: Newspapers quickly spread the news of Sammy's death and the 235 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: discovery of his secret. Some attributed his choice to live 236 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: as a man to a failed love affair and a 237 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: desire to start a new life away from societal expectations. 238 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: Others wove of elaborate narratives drawing inspiration from popular dime 239 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: novels of the time, romanticizing his journey. Saffly, though, proposed 240 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: that Sammy had chosen to live as a man to 241 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: make a living more easily, taking on a male role 242 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: in a world that offered more opportunities to men, but 243 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: all of these theories failed to fully explain how at 244 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: ease he was living as a man. Some writers pointed 245 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: out Sammy's stereotypical masculine behavior, describing him as occasionally getting drunk, swearing, 246 00:14:56,000 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: chewing tobacco, and engaging in festive activities with the It 247 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: clearly wasn't just an act. Friends would later discovered letters 248 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: written to him over the years that revealed his life. 249 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: Before arriving in Montana, Sammy traveled quite a bit and 250 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: had lived in Eau Claire, Wisconsin, the Minneapolis area, and Castleton, 251 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: North Dakota. An insurance policy from eighteen eighty five, still 252 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: bearing his chosen name and gender, further demonstrated his commitment 253 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: to his identity. After his passing, Sammy's co workers and 254 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: community paid for a headstone and mourned the loss of 255 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: their friend. Outside the community, his story inspired newspapers to 256 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: discuss gender roles, with some even suggesting that women could 257 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: become unsexed like Sammy, while others wondered why more women 258 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: didn't seek the same freedom by assuming masculine roles. And look, 259 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: there will probably always be confusion. How people have seen 260 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: gender as an identity throughout history has constantly shifted and changed, 261 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: which complicates our struggle to define it. It's right there 262 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: in the pages of history, though, and to ignore it 263 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: is to be myopic and closed minded. What's clear is 264 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: that Sammy Williams led the life he intended, and those 265 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: who reflected on that life recognized the things that truly mattered, 266 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: his resilience, his kindness, and his impact on the community. 267 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: The story wasn't uncommon in the rugged American West, where 268 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: dreams and realities often collided head on, the lives of 269 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: people like Sammy Williams remained hidden. Newspapers of the era 270 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: reported on hundreds of stories of women who lived as 271 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: men and men who lived as women, and it's likely 272 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: that it was just the visible tip of a much 273 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: larger iceberg. And these stories didn't just take place in 274 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: the West either, but rather all over the world and 275 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: all throughout history. But like I said at the beginning, 276 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: when most of us think of the Wild West, we 277 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: think of how Hollywood and books have presented that era 278 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:03,359 Speaker 1: to us, full of hardcore outlaws and stets in wearing cowboys, 279 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: and with a few exceptions, the women in those stories 280 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 1: have always been stereotypically feminine and subservient. But maybe those 281 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 1: assumptions are a lot farther from the mark than we've 282 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: ever realized. Take, for example, the story of Milton Matson. 283 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: He found himself in the public eye in eighteen ninety 284 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: five when authorities in San Jose threw him in jail 285 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: his crime. He had supposedly tried to deceive others for 286 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: financial gain in the process, Though the jailers realized the 287 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: Matson had been born female. It wasn't until he became 288 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,439 Speaker 1: a media sensation that Matson confessed to feeling more like 289 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: a man than a woman. And as you'd imagine, the 290 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 1: press relentlessly chased his story, eager for juicy details. They 291 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: even dug into his relationship with his fiance Helen Fairweather, 292 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 1: who staunchly defended her love for Matson. And then there's 293 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,439 Speaker 1: the story of Charlie Parkhurst. During the eighteen fifties, he 294 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: was known throughout California for his legendary courage and skill 295 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 1: as a stagecoach, he had bravely faced down dangerous outlaws 296 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 1: and saved lives. But after he died in eighteen seventy 297 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: nine and his friends prepared his body for burial, they 298 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: were shocked to learn that Charlie had been a female 299 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: at birth. And back in nineteen oh four, another story 300 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: caused quite a stir, grabbing headlines and the attention of 301 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 1: readers everywhere. Joe Monahan, a rancher from Idaho, had passed away. Now, 302 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: rumors had long circulated about Joe. The community had heard 303 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: curious things about him, but were never so bold as 304 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 1: to ask him to his face about the rumors. But 305 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: upon his death, it was confirmed Joe had been born female, 306 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: and the media, of course jumped on the story, creating 307 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 1: sensationalized tales about lost love and betrayal. In one theory, 308 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: they made Joe out to be a woman who had 309 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: once been wronged by a cruel lover. But these stories 310 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: were all heavily influenced by society's beliefs about what love 311 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: and tragedy should look like. The way most people saw 312 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: there were strict roles that everyone was supposed to fit 313 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:00,479 Speaker 1: into and these folks simply refused to play along. They 314 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 1: just wanted to live their lives without having to share 315 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 1: every last detail with the rest of the world. And 316 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 1: I think the same can be said for all of us. 317 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: Like the television and film world that gave them life, 318 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 1: our perceptions of the wild West started out in black 319 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: and white, but time and research have added color and 320 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: depth to those flat assumptions. Don't worry if your favorite 321 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: Western characters are those half shaven cowboy law men and 322 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: powerful elegant ladies back at the saloon, you will never 323 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,239 Speaker 1: run short on examples. But I hope today's journey has 324 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: helped you see that the stories never end there. There's 325 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: always nuance, always depth, and always variety, and that is 326 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 1: a good thing. But we're not done just yet. We've 327 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: saved one more tale to share with you, and if 328 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,360 Speaker 1: you stick around through this brief sponsor break, my teammates 329 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 1: Ali Stead will tell you all about it. 330 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 2: Newspaper and media sensationalism aside, scholars also set out to 331 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 2: better understand the experiences of those who lived as a 332 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 2: gender different from the one they'd been assigned at birth. 333 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 2: Instead of writing headlines designed to sell papers, they took 334 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 2: a more scientific approach in an attempt to explain the 335 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 2: deviation from what was considered sexual norms. At the turn 336 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 2: of the twentieth century, the emerging field of sexology sought 337 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 2: to dissect and pathologize gender differences. If researchers could define 338 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 2: what normal looked like, they could better define what was deviate. 339 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 2: In one of those academic texts, we learn about the 340 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 2: life of an individual simply known as m uc M 341 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 2: was one of four case studies presented under pseudonyms in 342 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 2: an article titled Transvestism, A Contribution to the Study of 343 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 2: the Psychology of Sex, published in the New York Medical 344 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:03,479 Speaker 2: Journal in nineteen fourteen. At the time, em was sixty 345 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 2: two years old. His age suggests that he had a 346 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 2: lifetime of experiences that shaped his understanding of his identity. 347 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 2: From an early age, m regarded himself as a man 348 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 2: who had a strong affinity for wearing women's clothing, which 349 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 2: was clear from a letter he wrote about his childhood memories. 350 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:27,239 Speaker 2: He'd always known who he was. He wrote that his 351 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 2: playmates were always girls, and that his preferred toys were dolls, ribbons, 352 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:35,439 Speaker 2: and miniature household items. He even possessed a talent for 353 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,719 Speaker 2: making dolls and crafting clothes for his sisters and other girls, 354 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 2: and at the age of ten, he showed a remarkable 355 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 2: experience for cooking and meal preparation that far surpassed those 356 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,719 Speaker 2: of older boys. He also had a protective side and 357 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 2: readily defended his girlfriends against teasing or harassment. Though his 358 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 2: behavior might have been less masculine than society thought was proper, 359 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 2: all was still well. It's n clear from his writings, 360 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 2: but Em might have been allowed to wear girl's clothing 361 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 2: at home, at least when his parents didn't have company. 362 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 2: He was fifteen when his uncle came to visit in 363 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 2: eighteen sixty seven. Again we're unsure of the specifics, but 364 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 2: it appears m might have worn boy's clothing during his 365 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 2: uncle's stay. But that wasn't enough to hide his secret. 366 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 2: It didn't take long for his uncle to find the 367 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 2: hidden stash of dresses, and to say the discovery made 368 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 2: him upset would be an understatement. His uncle took the 369 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 2: matter up with his brother, ranting on and on about 370 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 2: his nephew's sinful ways. The aftermath was a disaster. After 371 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 2: receiving a scathing scolding, EM's father demanded that every piece 372 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 2: of girl's clothing he owned be burned. He also issued 373 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 2: a dire warning any future sightings of his son wearing 374 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 2: or keeping female attire would be met with severe consequences. 375 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 2: If m he valued the ability to walk without crutches, 376 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,919 Speaker 2: he'd do what he was told. From here on out, 377 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 2: he would become more masculine. Distraught at the ultimatum, M 378 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 2: made the decision to leave home and make his way westward. 379 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 2: By the spring of eighteen sixty seven, M's travels brought 380 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 2: him to Grand Isle, Nebraska, where he found a job 381 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 2: driving a team of horses while a railroad was being built. 382 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 2: As the fall arrived, he ventured out onto the Nebraska 383 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 2: prairie and took up buffalo hunting and staying true to himself, 384 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 2: he privately continued to dress in women's clothing. In his 385 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 2: own words, he said that when he dressed as a woman, 386 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 2: he experienced enhanced logical thinking, a liberated sense of being, 387 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 2: and an ability to solve complex problems that eluded him 388 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:51,199 Speaker 2: under different circumstances. He'd run away west and found a 389 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 2: better life, but m still desperately wanted the freedom to 390 00:23:55,280 --> 00:24:00,400 Speaker 2: wear women's clothing Whenever he chose Unfortunately, he knew he'd 391 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 2: be ridiculed or worse. His adventures on the frontier came 392 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 2: in many forms and jobs. He was once a sheriff, 393 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 2: a newspaper publisher, a justice of the peace, and a 394 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 2: detective for the U. S. Marshal's Office. M proudly declared 395 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 2: his contribution to westward expansion. His legs carried the scars 396 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 2: of bullets, wounds he had covered with petticoats. Whenever the 397 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 2: opportunity arose, Despite the dangers presented, all his troubles seemed 398 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 2: to fade away when he dressed in the clothing he preferred. 399 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 2: Will likely never know M's true identity, but we do 400 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 2: know that even in the Wild West, where we've painted 401 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 2: a picture of the most square jawed and masculine men 402 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 2: in the vein of John Wayne, in real life there 403 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 2: were those who had to pretend to be someone they 404 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 2: were not, and a fortunate view were able to live 405 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 2: an authentic life, regardless of the secrets they felt compelled 406 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,040 Speaker 2: to hide. 407 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 1: Grim and mild Presents The Wild West was executive produced 408 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: by me Aaron Mankey and hosted by Aaron Mankey and 409 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: Alexandra Steed. Writing for this season was provided by Michelle 410 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:14,199 Speaker 1: Mudo with research by Alexandra Steed, Sam Alberty, Cassandra de 411 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: Alba and Harry Marx. Fact Checking was performed by Jamie Vargas, 412 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 1: with sensitivity reading by Stacy Parshall Jensen. Production assistance was 413 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 1: provided by Josh Stain, Jesse Funk, Alex Williams, and Matt Frederick. 414 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: To learn more about this and other shows from Grimm 415 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 1: and Mild and iHeartRadio, visit Grimandmild dot com