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Speaker 1: The Volume.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to jayis the Jones on the Volume podcast network.

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Speaker 2: It is Thursday, December twelfth, and we are joined by

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Speaker 2: one of our best buddies, Claire Dalone. Claire, thank you

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Speaker 2: so much for hopping on.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me back. I miss you, guys, We

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Speaker 3: miss you.

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Speaker 4: Toody. You're over there with the with the with the

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Speaker 4: cool kids, on.

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Speaker 5: With the skater now with the.

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Speaker 3: Posters, break down and do it eventually.

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Speaker 6: You're too cool now, but you'll crawling back to where

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Speaker 6: the engagement is eventually.

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Speaker 2: We did talk about this on the show, and I

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Speaker 2: think my stance was this. I think people think Tyler

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Speaker 2: needs to post, and he does not. And I think

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Speaker 2: when Twitter dies, Tyler will leave. And I think when

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Speaker 2: Tyler leaves, I'm just gonna, you know, follow my good

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Speaker 2: captain into the sunset and be done with this particular

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Speaker 2: form a phone addiction.

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Speaker 4: I do truly believe that's what happened.

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Speaker 2: But Tyler and I do both have our accounts like

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Speaker 2: reserved over there just in case. And then John actually,

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Speaker 2: like you put a photo our ears and stuff, didn't you,

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Speaker 2: like actually set.

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Speaker 4: It up, didn't you?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: But I would say across the Rainbow Bridge and onto

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Speaker 3: Blue Sky. I'll be there.

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Speaker 2: I know you and Mena both to say your follower

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Speaker 2: accounts is actually higher there stuff Now, I did get

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Speaker 2: like five hundred followers without even having it, Like the

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Speaker 2: count is just a zombie cat, it's not even on

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Speaker 2: there or whatever.

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Speaker 4: You know. Salute to the Blue skyers.

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Speaker 2: I know we do have people in our chat every

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Speaker 2: episode trying to get us over there, but I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't think it's I truly don't think it's gonna happen.

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Speaker 3: Keep pressuring them chat.

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Speaker 4: Wow, immediate mutiny. I'm from the chat. Okay.

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Speaker 2: Claire as always, you can find her stuff on the

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Speaker 2: Guardian and you can follow her on Blue Sky as always,

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Speaker 2: Jackison Jones and Twitter. As always, Jenks Does hosted by Dragonfly.

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Speaker 4: Jones a ka Tyler.

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Speaker 2: Hey, everybody have a game in le Jethro Jenkins aka

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Speaker 5: B a k A Mike mother fucking Mike Mo.

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Speaker 2: And we're produced as always by the lovely and talented

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Speaker 2: Jackson staff.

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Speaker 4: On Beard's coming in nice Jackson, why.

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Speaker 7: My mom wanted to relay that she she approves of

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Speaker 7: the Beard. Her words were, I like your face too much.

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Speaker 7: For you to keep it forever.

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Speaker 8: But that looks good.

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Speaker 9: That's such a a beard, yeah mom thing to say, like, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 9: it looks good.

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Speaker 2: My mom doesn't know what my face looks like without

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Speaker 2: a beard, because I've only in my adult life not

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Speaker 2: had a beard for about forty five seconds.

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Speaker 4: So this is my face that she loves. You know

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Speaker 4: what I mean.

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Speaker 6: A beard for not have a beard for forty five

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Speaker 6: Like what kind of hair growths I had A.

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Speaker 2: I had a I had a goatee as a junior

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Speaker 2: in high school, and then I grew it out to

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Speaker 2: like eighteen, and when I was I think when my

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Speaker 4: It all of this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, completely babyface, what char said.

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Speaker 4: And then I grew up. Yeah, and then and then

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Speaker 4: I and then I grew it back.

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Speaker 2: And I think I've told this story on the pod,

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Speaker 2: but at one point I brought up the idea of

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Speaker 2: She didn't really actually say anything negative about it when

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Speaker 2: it was shaved, but when I brought up doing it again,

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Speaker 2: she said, why don't you keep the beard and then

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Speaker 2: that way when people see us out together, they won't

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Speaker 2: assume that you're rich.

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Speaker 4: I was my god, I gotcha.

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Speaker 5: That's an actual face. She's talking about that.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, she's only seen me for three days of

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Speaker 2: the However, many hundred years we've been together without face.

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Speaker 4: So this is my actual face. You know, the makeup's

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Speaker 9: It's just what's the face that she chose, you know

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Speaker 9: what I mean?

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Speaker 4: Like, that's right.

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Speaker 9: I told you about the story about the dude who

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Speaker 9: shaved his beard and like his wife didn't want to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like she she wrote.

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Speaker 9: In to like this, or she called into this like

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Speaker 9: hotline on on this radio hotline, like my husband shaved

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Speaker 9: his beard and and it was like for work, like

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Speaker 5: And she's like I.

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Speaker 9: Don't like looking at him anymore, like she didn't want

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Speaker 9: to be with him. Like that's how crazy that shit is.

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Speaker 9: That's how man man makeup. Bro as I'm conditional.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it doesn't. You can't. You can't wash the

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Speaker 5: That's crazy.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about the National Basketball Association Cup,

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Speaker 2: shall we?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what is the group's reaction to the foul call

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Speaker 2: at the end of the Warriors Rockets game three seconds left,

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Speaker 2: eighty feet from the basket. As Steve Kerr pointed out

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Speaker 2: about seventeen times in his postgame press conference, loose ball on.

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Speaker 4: The ground, they call a foul on the Warriors.

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Speaker 2: Warriors are up by one, Rockets make their two free

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Speaker 2: of that foul call? I thought it was a wild call.

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Speaker 1: I think that, and I understand why the refs made it,

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Speaker 1: I think, but we've seen calls like that before where

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Speaker 1: they usually just give the team the time out instead

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Speaker 1: of saying, we're not jump all in this right like

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Speaker 1: we're given we're going to reward the first guy who

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Speaker 1: was on the ground for the ball. We're gonna reward

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Speaker 1: possession of them, give them a time out if they

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Speaker 1: call it.

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Speaker 5: And I get that.

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Speaker 1: I think that there's some logical beyond that, But to

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Speaker 1: call a foul there, it's like, yo, you're locked. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're locking the game up for Houston, you know with

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Speaker 5: Playing a simple.

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, I am not gonna feel

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Speaker 1: sorry for Golden State getting shafted on the off the

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Speaker 5: Of questionable foul calls.

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Speaker 1: They are that damn near every screen they said was

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Speaker 1: a me moving screen, you know during their championship run, right,

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Speaker 1: like that was a legit, Like Draymond was out there

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Speaker 1: and being a left guard, bro, you know what I like,

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Speaker 1: Like he was out there on the on the inside

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Speaker 1: So I'm not There's no part of me that could

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Speaker 1: about foul complaining about foul calls in a post game,

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Speaker 1: you know. But but I do enjoy how this is

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Speaker 1: kind of, you know, lending some legitimacy to the to

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Speaker 1: the nd season Tournament Cup because we've got the figurehead

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Speaker 1: of the Warriors crying about a foul.

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Speaker 5: Foul Yeah.

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Speaker 1: For sure, And this was and Bro, but the Rockets

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Speaker 1: broke a fifteen game losing streak against the Warriors with

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Speaker 1: this before COVID dog like Bro and fans were out

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Speaker 1: there pulling out, pulling out egregious missed foul calls from

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Speaker 1: like twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 5: Last night, Like I was like, let the Rockets fans

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Speaker 5: have this moment. We are taking this shit back to

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Speaker 5: twenty eight.

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Speaker 9: It was a super touch. All the files they missed,

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Speaker 9: they had a super cut. I saw the files they missed.

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Speaker 9: It was crazy, bro. They're like, look, you cannot talk

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Speaker 9: about this. We've been on the other side of too

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Speaker 9: many of these.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Crazy.

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Speaker 1: So look, I'll agree with you Warriors fans. It was

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Speaker 1: an egregious foul call. Am I gonna cry and pick

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Speaker 1: it with you? Absolutely not.

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Speaker 5: I'm going to enjoy the crying coming from that. Going

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Speaker 5: around is coming around, you feel the game.

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Speaker 6: But my thing is, like sports cops have the worst

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Speaker 6: main character syndrome, Like they they just want it to

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Speaker 6: be about them and they want that When they can

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Speaker 6: feel the spotlight shifting away from them, they immediately just

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Speaker 6: try and like summon it back. And it drives me crazy,

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Speaker 6: like let the players decide the game, like, And the

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Speaker 6: thing is, they weren't calling fouls that whole game.

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Speaker 3: They were letting shit go.

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Speaker 6: It was like fouls were foul foul and they were

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Speaker 6: letting them play, which I'm with it's a high stakes environment.

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Speaker 6: Let them play, But then you're gonna call a foul,

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Speaker 6: not only in that moment, but when Gary Payton just

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Speaker 6: got fouled right before that exact same foul that they

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Speaker 6: called happened to Gary Payton when he originally had possession

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Speaker 6: of the ball. So to me, that was just like

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Speaker 6: I understand why Warriors fans are pissed, not because the

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Speaker 6: game ended on a foul call, but just because it's like,

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Speaker 6: either call the shit or don't you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 6: but don't like, don't switch it up when there's three

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Speaker 6: vowel points. They have been the beneficiaries of calls in

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Speaker 3: I just like I'm.

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Speaker 6: Anti sports cops in general. I feel like they need

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Speaker 6: to they need to calm down.

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Speaker 4: I will add this with Claire being a veteran reporter.

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Speaker 2: It's a great stance to take, and it is part

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Speaker 2: of the reason that I'm sure Claire gives the access

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Speaker 2: she does. Great stance to take to be default against

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Speaker 2: the reps in all situations.

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Speaker 3: The hard job.

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Speaker 6: I will say, they have a very hard job because

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Speaker 6: when they do their job really well, you don't know

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Speaker 6: notice it at all. That's like best case scenario for

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Speaker 6: a ref. You forget that they're even there, so it's

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Speaker 6: not like they're getting like, wow, that ref called the

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Speaker 6: ship out.

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Speaker 3: Of that game.

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Speaker 6: They did such a good job, and like they did

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Speaker 6: so amazing, Like that never happens, But that's what you

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Speaker 6: sign up for when you put on those zebra stripes.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, So like it is what

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Speaker 3: it is.

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Speaker 7: Jet agrees with Tyler. I put a poll, do you

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Speaker 7: guys feel bad for the Warriors? And eighty three percent

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Speaker 7: right now.

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Speaker 5: Say, bro, we've been on an ass end of a

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Speaker 5: lot of this.

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Speaker 9: Should they of course, we never feel bad for the Warriors.

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Speaker 3: That's amazing. I feel like leading the witness a little bit.

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Speaker 5: You me.

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Speaker 8: That was the way Tyler phrased it.

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Speaker 2: Well, if Tyler was not witness, he was delivering a

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Speaker 2: closing argument. So you see that the whole overtin window

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Speaker 2: to Tyler's argument.

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Speaker 3: Tyler, we always want to be fair to Tyler.

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Speaker 2: I think the one thing I would say that that

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Speaker 2: occurred to me and and uh Claire talked about never appreciating.

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Speaker 4: The refs and they do a good job.

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Speaker 4: You phrase it however you want to phrase it, but

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think every you know, scruff or whatever

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Speaker 9: What would it take for you to call that foul

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Speaker 10: I think el Draymond in a headlock, you might have

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Speaker 3: Bonus Draymond moment.

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Speaker 4: Scale, you spin around.

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Speaker 2: And hit someone with the back of your fist, maybe

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Speaker 2: I do think that that does have something to do

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Speaker 3: That's fair, that's fair.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it did make for an incredible Steve Crowe is

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Speaker 4: He said, an elementary school. Yeah, make that call. You know,

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Speaker 2: And I love the melodrama of did you see his

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Speaker 1: Rocket fans were like, good, welcome to Hell. Tormented the

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Speaker 2: The other Cup game last night was Trey Young continuing

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Speaker 4: How much did you enjoy that game?

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Speaker 5: Crew?

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Speaker 2: And uh, and how much did you enjoy the way

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Speaker 2: Trey is relishing, whatever else is happening in his career,

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Speaker 4: As much as possible.

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Speaker 5: I love it.

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Speaker 1: It's one of my favorite line, you know, storylines in

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Speaker 1: And you know, someone who's a Knicks fan in a

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Speaker 1: even if begrudgingly so. Because the fact that Trey Young

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Speaker 1: You know, that's a good sign. We haven't had someone

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Speaker 1: ninety four. It's been thirty years, bro, You know what

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Speaker 1: down Knicks fans probably begrudgingly love this. You know, this

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Speaker 5: New York basketball. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: When you think New York basketball, you think flashy point guards.

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Speaker 1: No one goes to the rucker to see the post play, bro,

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Speaker 5: Bro, he did that in the dice rolling capital of

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Speaker 8: Like you.

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Speaker 2: That's why the buildings have cinder blocks on the bottom

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Speaker 2: so that the dice could pop off at the right right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the game was kind of a dumb I mean,

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Speaker 6: that was like not a great game, though, can we

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Speaker 2: Reason I'm only bringing up the celebration at the end

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it was like very nobody could hit the broad

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Speaker 6: you could, you know that say that was great defense.

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Speaker 3: But I feel like it was just mostly bad offense.

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Speaker 2: No, I think I could say that there was great

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Speaker 2: quite a while. But the Knicks, I will not accept

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Speaker 4: That was.

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Speaker 2: Some I may have been bomani, but someone said on Twitter,

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Speaker 2: it's not a good sign with what this where the

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Speaker 2: oh good that, Like they got one to go down,

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Speaker 2: like it was a brutal it is. That game, to me,

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Speaker 2: because when people are missing it is disgusting.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I think Kat was incredible. I mean he I think

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Speaker 6: he filed out. It's like death and Taxes. Of course

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Speaker 6: I mean, he's been first of all, the like story

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Speaker 6: you know, the Big Bodega like whatever. Like New York Cat,

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Speaker 6: he really seems like he's like more comfortable in his

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Speaker 3: It doesn't resonate, but.

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Speaker 6: It kind of works like New York Cat is kind

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Speaker 3: The New York and he was like New York like

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Speaker 6: And if you had told me a year ago that

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Speaker 3: Like he's he's hooping.

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Speaker 6: He had fifteen first half rebounds last night. Like he's

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Speaker 6: Mikhail Bridges, who they gave up, you know, like eighty

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Speaker 3: Good for Cat.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that, you know, concern that a lot

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Speaker 1: early in the season, but he's shown he looks like

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Speaker 1: he was born to be a Nick. Yeah, he is

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Speaker 1: a perfect fit. And like you said, he's bawling. You know,

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Speaker 1: the Knicks are fifteen and ten. There's the and I

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Speaker 1: It's a whole new roster just about you know, on

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Speaker 2: But you know, Mikal Bridges, Yeah, it is crazy in

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Speaker 2: retrospect that we thought a fake tough guy wouldn't fly

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Speaker 5: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: That's the Cat, that's the fake tough guy Capital watch it.

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Speaker 5: Now they do.

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Speaker 4: That's it. That's that's that's the so called shot right there.

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Speaker 2: But I do think like saying of Cat, like, oh,

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Speaker 2: what the fuck are we talking about? Like, you know,

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Speaker 4: It was kind of big in Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: And I use this example with like imagine being his

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I've lived in both places, New York City and Minnesota, which.

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Speaker 2: It's easier to picture him walking down the street or

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Speaker 4: In New York. I would assume with you having lived

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Speaker 6: Well, And also the thing about Minnesota that like nobody

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Speaker 3: Like the thing about New York, n Yeah, that Minnesota

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Speaker 6: And the thing about New York is like New Yorkers

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Speaker 6: Like that's like the true New York whereas Minnesota everyone's

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Speaker 6: for somebody from Jersey, he probably just feels way more

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Speaker 3: Oh my god. Odd, it'll be the likes of which

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Speaker 4: So I just I think I'm sort of with Cat

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Speaker 4: Do you refer to that region as Upper Midwest? Are

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Speaker 4: you comfortable with that? Now?

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Speaker 6: I mean it's Midwest. I mean it's technically the upper

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Speaker 6: Versus Minnesota is very like Norwegian like quiet, cold, yeah, right,

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Speaker 6: But I.

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Speaker 2: Would be with Cat in their brand of niceness up there.

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Speaker 2: When I've been in Minnesota in Wisconsin, it gives me anxiety,

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Speaker 5: It's not kind.

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Speaker 4: The early game Saturday on TNT will be Hawks Bucks.

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Speaker 2: This podcast was certainly one of many national podcasts that

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Speaker 2: the Cup, which is, here's a team with a star player,

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Speaker 2: a couple of star players that struggled. That was sort

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Speaker 2: like in these meaningful games. And obviously Giannis is going

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Speaker 2: to have to carry the burden of being the star

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Speaker 2: Hawk's Bucks And where do you guys feel like the

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Speaker 2: Bucks are in their sort of journey of the season.

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Speaker 5: I honestly do not know what to make up the

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Speaker 1: You know, they had that troubling concerning start where we

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Speaker 1: all thought that they were about to blow it up,

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Speaker 1: and then you know, Jannis was like, hey, let me

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Speaker 1: remind everyone that I'm the second best player in the

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Speaker 1: world at absolute worst. It seems like every night he's

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Speaker 1: putting up like forty one and eighteen or something ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: As as far as as the matchup, you know, but

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure how sustainable that is for Milwaukee. I know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you can just depend on Giannis

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Speaker 5: So, but as far as the matchup. I love it.

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Speaker 8: I love it.

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Speaker 1: You know, we we're gonna have you know, Trey who's

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Speaker 1: calls from Adam Silver about you're gonna have the Bucks

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Speaker 5: And the Cup. But yeah, I'm very much looking forward

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Speaker 6: My thing, so my only bone to pick with the

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Speaker 6: popping on social whatever, and it's just like, I gave

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Speaker 6: you everything you asked for, everything you needed. You started

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Speaker 6: point shooting on the Lakers?

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Speaker 2: To extend your analogy, don't you feel like if you

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Speaker 9: Is it me?

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Speaker 2: It's definitely sure, there's a fohy, why do all of

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Speaker 3: The lights expected or whatever that means?

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Speaker 1: Like, I think, I think we need to give credit

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Speaker 5: You know, Bregatorian along, you know.

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Speaker 1: And we're seeing JJ, you know, having the same struggles

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Speaker 6: Do well lebron brought his son to the Lakers and

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Speaker 6: Darvin brought his son to the Bucks story for everyone.

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Speaker 4: Am more credit than absolutely absolutely what we get.

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Speaker 2: We gave JJ credit when the Lakers were fucking four

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Speaker 3: Is it gonna be the Memorial Darnham NBA Ham Cup?

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Speaker 5: You're not getting the foot for a ham cuff.

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Speaker 9: We never had a We never had a ham cup.

668
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Speaker 9: This is something brand new the way they're going to

669
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Speaker 9: have to preserve the ham.

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Speaker 4: I deserve ice.

671
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Speaker 2: Cream, but I would I don't like the ice cream

672
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 2: that's like pure ice that comes with the wooden spoon

673
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Speaker 2: that you have to fucking.

674
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 4: Like hammer it in to break off this ship.

675
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Speaker 2: You know.

676
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, Italian ice is great.

677
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 3: That's what you're describing.

678
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Speaker 4: I'm talking about. I'm talking about the.

679
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 5: Oops might be.

680
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 4: I'm talking about.

681
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 2: Talking about the vanilla cup with the half a squirt

682
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 2: of fudge on the side of it that was like

683
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 2: with the wooden spoon, that would cut your tongue up.

684
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Speaker 8: I do know what you're talking about talking about.

685
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 7: Also, Mikey and the chats, Virginia ham is delicious, so

686
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 7: absolutely yeah, sure the world.

687
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Speaker 6: Smithfield, you're Virginia privilege, showing that you only had a

688
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 6: hand the rest of us were slumming it with the

689
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 6: nasty lunchible ship.

690
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 4: I will say, Tyler, the Lunchible's ham is bad ham Bro.

691
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 4: I have had bad ham.

692
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 2: You would probably correctly say it does not qualify as ham.

693
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 9: But like I genuinely that is the ham that would

694
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Speaker 9: come on a handcut, hurt me off a hand, and

695
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 9: that would be the handcuff.

696
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 5: That's the hamcut ham Bro.

697
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 7: I'm laughing at the funniest Chat comment we have today

698
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 7: so far, which is Mike's grandma definitely had a hand

699
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 7: cut for Thanksgivings.

700
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Speaker 5: Bro, somebody hit me in my mentions them. Somebody hit

701
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Speaker 5: me about Mike's grandma.

702
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 4: My dad was texting me about Mike's grandma.

703
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 5: Somebody d m me about jellybits grandma. To give you

704
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Speaker 5: some context?

705
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Speaker 4: Clear, Can we can't? Can we talk about it? You

706
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 4: could talk. The sweetest woman in the history of the

707
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 4: species my grandma.

708
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 9: At one point in our life, her and are two

709
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 9: other siblings. They each got a jelly bean for Christmas.

710
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 9: It was a different it was for their birthday. They

711
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 9: didn't get anything for Christmas. Okay, sorry, come on, only

712
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 9: spare one jelly bean at a time, so they got.

713
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Speaker 5: Her for their birthday instead.

714
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Speaker 4: Okay, here's what I.

715
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Speaker 2: Was saying, Andy, And I'm it would make my grandma

716
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Speaker 2: happy that everyone was getting jokes off her expense, genuinely,

717
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Speaker 2: But this is what I would say about the level

718
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 2: of poverty my grandma grew up in. We also thought

719
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Speaker 2: it was funny until she found one Christmas. We were

720
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Speaker 2: going through like her family stuff, and she found a

721
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Speaker 2: picture of the shack that she grew up in. And

722
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Speaker 2: I remember, at like thirteen, being like, oh that's not

723
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, she grew up in hell, like,

724
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Speaker 2: we better stop making jokes about growd Okay.

725
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Speaker 9: So stump hitting me in my dams about the jelly beans. Okay,

726
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 9: jelly bean joke.

727
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 3: Jelly beans as an adult.

728
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Speaker 2: And she was just you know, she went on to

729
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 2: have a one for life. She and my grandpa all

730
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 2: they wanted was a fig tree in the backyard. They

731
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 2: had a fig tree and they could make their own.

732
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Speaker 2: Whatever the you make had a fix.

733
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Speaker 4: Hey, that's that depression generation. Fig Newton was like a

734
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 4: you know, for a ham cup, big.

735
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Speaker 5: News are good.

736
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 9: I keep my fig Newton. I'm telling you that, brother,

737
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 9: no Brian Ham for my fig Newton. Gotta find another sucker,

738
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 9: like you.

739
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 6: Said, brother, and was vaguely directed towards me. I'm like, wow,

740
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 6: I've really arrived on this podcast.

741
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Speaker 4: I'm honorary brother.

742
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 2: Is definitely cross gender on this. Yeah, CALLI bro as well. Yeah,

743
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 2: you know that's part of the way we move.

744
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Speaker 9: Dame's been playing good, though I wanted to say that

745
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 9: we haven't been talking about Dame damon playing good and

746
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 9: and and and last game he basically cared them at

747
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 9: the end of it.

748
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Speaker 5: You know what I mean. So I think the look good.

749
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Speaker 6: I just want to say, seems like the refs. It's

750
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 6: like when Dame's playing good, no one talks about it.

751
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 3: And when playing.

752
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 2: That's being the number two guy to be honest like

753
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 2: that is that's one hundred percent.

754
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 4: That's not an easy role to accept. The other game.

755
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 2: Uh, you know the ratings watchers, the NBA ratings watchers

756
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,320
Speaker 2: thrilled for this one Rockets Thunder. I did get a

757
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 2: chance to watch the entire start to finish without having

758
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 2: work to do or kids bothering me or anything else.

759
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 2: I got to watch the entire Rockets Thunder MAVs game.

760
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 2: I'm very attracted to the Thunders defense.

761
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 5: They are a good basketball team.

762
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 3: Everything there's no hole like and Chet was sitting on

763
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Speaker 3: the bench.

764
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 5: Like a suit. Yeah, looking like.

765
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 4: Looking like a look at like a fucking nightmare, just

766
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 4: looking like the.

767
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:55,720
Speaker 5: Ghost of Christmas.

768
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Speaker 4: Ask that the tour.

769
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 5: There's an actual nightmare. I might have had that ship before. Bro,

770
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:04,240
Speaker 5: that's crazy.

771
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 2: That's imagining Chet home Green coming down your chimney to

772
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 2: get to drop Christmas presence off.

773
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 4: That's the that's your man. I'll tell you one thing.

774
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 4: Me and my friend killed him with hammers.

775
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 5: Can you say that.

776
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 4: You know that you've heard that you want alive.

777
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 5: That can't be cut.

778
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 4: Bro, you killed him with hammer if he broke into

779
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 4: my house for the chimney, he said, crime.

780
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, you have

781
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 2: hold on, hold on, you have babies. If it's if

782
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 2: it's Christmas Eve. You hear a rustling at the front of.

783
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 11: The house, you could in front of that, you say,

784
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 11: with hammers suit you're and there's a hammer in your hand.

785
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 12: You're put the hammer down. There's a noise in your house.

786
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 12: What do you walk out to the front with.

787
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 5: Let's talk about s g a bro.

788
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 4: Bro never really taking a hammerhag.

789
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 5: Really knocking him down.

790
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 2: Right.

791
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 6: They're really really good and if they don't come out

792
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 6: of the West, it's going to be because something went

793
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 6: so so far left, Like I will be absolutely bowled

794
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 6: over shocked if they're not the team coming out at

795
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 6: the Western Conference. They have everything, their top five defense, offense.

796
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,240
Speaker 6: I think they're number one maybe even in defense.

797
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 3: And Shay is a superstar. He's arrived, mart and Sidne

798
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 3: and Carusoe.

799
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 6: I mean, we were talking about this, Tyler and I

800
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 6: were talking about this on Twitter yesterday. But like the

801
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 6: fact that Sam Presty got Alex Caruso for Josh Giddy

802
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 6: with nothing else, no picks, not even second round picks,

803
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 6: just nothing. Just here's Josh Giddy. You give me Alex

804
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 6: Cruso the end. Like that is the craziest I still

805
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 6: can't believe that happened in real time.

806
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 3: It was crazy.

807
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 6: It's only gotten crazier as it's aged. And they had

808
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 6: this perfect offseason additions for them. They were already the

809
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 6: number one team in the West last year, and then

810
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 6: they added exactly what they needed. Like they're awesome and

811
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 6: they're for sure coming out of the West, Like I

812
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 6: feel so confident saying that.

813
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they were already a really good defense

814
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: before adding Yeah Russo and adding Hartenstein, and yeah, it's

815
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 1: just like, you know, we went into the season saying,

816
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 1: you know, okay, see had the best offseason and it

817
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: was just because they picked up Cruso in Hartenstein, right,

818
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: we knew that those were perfect pieces to get them

819
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: to where they want to be. They didn't need any

820
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: more firepower. They got a incredible perimeter defendant, Cruso, got

821
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 1: a great post go defendant Hartenstein, and now they're the

822
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,919
Speaker 1: best defense in the league. Bro, Like, yeah, they're for sure,

823
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: you know, and and and even at at the top

824
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 1: of the season, I was like, you know, okay see,

825
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 1: they'd get my pick on who I think is coming

826
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: off the West. But they've even exceeded my expectations on

827
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: how good they would be and how great you know,

828
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: Cruise on Harnstein would.

829
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Speaker 5: Be a fit there. Yeah, watch it. Watching okay see

830
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 5: makes me like I thought about the Lakers. Just blow

831
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 5: it up. Bro, Remember people, it's over with. You have

832
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:20,879
Speaker 5: no fucking shot.

833
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 4: They're not capable of trying to play defense these this

834
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:25,720
Speaker 4: that's a whole.

835
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 5: Last But and they're so good and they're so young, Bro,

836
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 5: it's over with, start over. It's nothing. Nothing you have

837
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 5: now is gonna compete with these guys.

838
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 6: Fast, crazy, they're young, they're athletic, and the most important

839
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 6: thing and this is like the Boston Celtics formula. Shout

840
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 6: out to Jackson, is that every single player on that

841
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 6: team that.

842
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 4: I can catch credit for the Boston Celtics formula. He

843
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 4: had nothing.

844
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 3: I mean, I was just acknowledging his presence. I'm not

845
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 3: giving him credit.

846
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 6: But the Oklahoma City Thunder, like every player that is

847
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 6: actually gonna get time, which is like basically like what

848
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 6: like a nine or ten man rotation or something probably

849
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 6: is a two way player. Like everybody can shoot, everybody

850
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 6: can defend, and they're all young enough to like not

851
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 6: run out of steam, so cheap enough.

852
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 4: To fit the current apron structure.

853
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 2: And what blew me away I started like kicking it

854
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 2: off on my hands watching it was the number of

855
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 2: plays consecutively where they would blitz Luca. You double Luca

856
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 2: to start the possession as he crosses half.

857
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 6: Then get and then they want yes, lou Dort, did

858
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 6: you see that that shot? Someone posted like lou Dort

859
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 6: was doubling Luca and they all the way from one

860
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 6: like the top of the key on the other side,

861
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 6: all the way to the corner to block a three

862
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 6: point shot and successfully blocked it.

863
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 5: Like what do you do with that?

864
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 8: Bro?

865
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 3: Like I meant to change.

866
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 2: You gotta change the order that your offense has you

867
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 2: pass the ball, like you have to change everything because

868
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 2: it's like they knew, we know where your first pass

869
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 2: and your second pass out of a double is going.

870
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 6: But the problem is because they're so fast and athletic

871
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 6: even if they over commits, where they can recover so

872
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 6: quickly and get back to where they need to be

873
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 6: so like it's it's Celtic's thunder at the end, and

874
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 6: it's what we all thought at the beginning of the season.

875
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:10,879
Speaker 8: Is going to happen.

876
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: Like, come on, I saw a status that we've never

877
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 1: seen a team average more steals and deflections than this team,

878
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: which is just you know, because steels can be a

879
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: bit of a misleading stat at times, like there are

880
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,720
Speaker 1: ways you can cherry pick steels. You can play passing

881
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: lanes like Alan Iverson my personal most favor player ever

882
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: left the league is steals. Multiple times it was not

883
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: a good lockdown defender by any measure, right, But yeah,

884
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 1: that deflection stat, Bro, that is a team that is pasking.

885
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 1: That is a team that is not taking any possessions off.

886
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 1: That is a team that thinks they can get the

887
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: ball back from you every single time you have it, Bro,

888
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: And I can't imagine.

889
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 5: It has to be hell playing those dudes.

890
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,280
Speaker 6: I cannot imagine, Bro, And I just like can't overstate

891
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 6: top five in both offense and defense missing one of

892
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 6: their maybe their second best player, like one of their

893
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 6: five starters. You don't think chests are second, but I mean,

894
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 6: I guess Jalen so third third best player at worst,

895
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:58,800
Speaker 6: Like that's number two for me.

896
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 5: Mike is just an anti check guy.

897
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 4: I don't think they look really good without him. I

898
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 4: mean they're just they look really good.

899
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:15,800
Speaker 3: Said, he looks bigger and stronger.

900
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 7: I think he's a I think he's quite a significantly

901
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 7: better defender because of how much stronger he is. You

902
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 7: want to put Chet up against Nikola, Well, that's why

903
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 7: they don't put anybody.

904
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 4: I think.

905
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 8: I think Hartenstein is a better defender.

906
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 7: I think he's a better rebounder, and I think he's

907
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 7: a dramatically better passer. He's like not he's not Draymond

908
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 7: Green level, but he if you throw it to him

909
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:41,879
Speaker 7: at the elbow, he is making plate.

910
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 9: Okay, we're talking about player, not just the fer, better

911
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 9: player as a whole. Because he can guard, you can

912
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 9: throw it. He has a bigger body to put in

913
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 9: front of the Colao is doing.

914
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 5: The exact same thing that both of him, Nickers bro

915
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 5: Isaiah fan.

916
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 6: But I can't stand for this, like Chet is a

917
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,439
Speaker 6: way better player than the one thing I will give

918
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 6: Hartenstein credit for that I think is underrated. And I

919
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 6: noticed this a lot in the playoffs last year with

920
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 6: the knicks. His touch at the basket is remarkable in

921
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 6: this way.

922
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 8: His floater is insane.

923
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 5: He has.

924
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 7: Let me rephrase this slightly, if you were building a

925
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 7: team from scratch, I think chet Holmern is a better

926
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 7: player to start a team with and Isaiah Hartenstein, but

927
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:26,399
Speaker 7: as as not your best player, as anyone anything other

928
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 7: than your number one player. I think Hartenstein is better

929
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 7: than Cheddle.

930
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 5: Hartstein is really good at hard and Stein is what

931
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 5: he's supposed to do, you know what I mean. He's like,

932
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 5: he's really good in his role. Perfect it is role.

933
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 9: So if you're thinking of look at it from that perspective,

934
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 9: I understand. But Check's a better basketball player. The chat

935
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 9: generally agrees with you, guys.

936
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 2: Just a case to close off our Check conversation, just

937
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 2: in case anyone didn't know what I was referencing one

938
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 2: of my favorite sweets of all time from Hello Colin.

939
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,720
Speaker 4: Me and my friends would have killed et with hammers.

940
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 4: I can tell you that much. That's I did. It

941
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 4: was just like we were laughing. I think because we

942
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 4: were laughing so.

943
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 9: Hard because you were talking about a human. That's where

944
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 9: it just got real.

945
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,320
Speaker 3: I did cry off my eye makeup laughing.

946
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 8: So there is that.

947
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 4: That's good. Okay.

948
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 9: We talked a lot about the defense. I want to say,

949
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 9: like the flow of the ball in their offense is

950
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 9: incredible to it's.

951
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 6: An amazing basketball team, like they're only the flaws don't

952
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 6: exist that I can see.

953
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I haven't really been there before.

954
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 6: That's my only My only concern with them in the

955
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 6: playoffs is the limited amount of playoff experience. They just

956
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 6: haven't had a ton of especially deep playoff experience.

957
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:46,760
Speaker 3: But I think they're fine.

958
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 6: They're so confident, like Shay is super nova and he's

959
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 6: been an m VP candidate for two years running.

960
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 3: Like, I think they're going to be fine.

961
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 9: And I think the things that make you good into playoffs,

962
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 9: like like the reflections, that's a sign of a competitive team,

963
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 9: Like they're competing, you know what I'm saying, on both

964
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 9: instead the court in every position, you know what I mean.

965
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 9: And so I think I think it'll translate really well.

966
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:10,879
Speaker 9: And I think they've grown up since last year. They'll

967
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 9: be they're gonna, they're gonna. I think they'll be just fine.

968
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 3: And Cruso's not gonna let them act like teenagers in

969
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 3: the place.

970
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 6: I mean like Alex Cruso' is there, Like that is

971
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,439
Speaker 6: like a hard hat wearing like NBA, like go to work,

972
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 6: do your job professional, you know, And I think, especially yeah,

973
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 6: a public.

974
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 5: Thing about me.

975
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 4: I love Alex Caruso so much.

976
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 2: It's like he's so much higher on my favorite basketball

977
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 2: player rankings than he should be. But every time I

978
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 2: watch him, I just like, I'm like looking at Vinnie

979
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 2: the whole game, like is she the way he?

980
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 6: You see the video of him hip checking someone after

981
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 6: he got knocked to the ground. There's like a video

982
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 6: floating around of like he gets knocked down in like

983
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 6: a kind of aggressive possession. He waits down on the

984
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 6: ground for a second to see if he's gonna get

985
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 6: the foul, doesn't get the foul, pops up as everyone's

986
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 6: coming back in transition, he just hip checks the.

987
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 3: Guy who knocked him over as hard as he can.

988
00:44:58,160 --> 00:44:58,720
Speaker 3: It's awesome.

989
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 10: His best.

990
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 2: We have our first moment when we think Woes is

991
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 2: truly truly happy to be retired from the world of

992
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 2: news breaking, which is that Shams is engaged in a

993
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:25,240
Speaker 2: really public agent beef, which I know has been delighting

994
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 2: the absolute hell out of Tyler.

995
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 4: How the tables, How the turn tables, Jackson?

996
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 2: Are there any have there been any further development since

997
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 2: we've been recording? Okay, then Tyler, do you want to

998
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 2: give the context and and what you're hoping to see

999
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 2: from Shams here?

1000
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 8: Okay?

1001
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 1: So basically, you know, a couple of days back where

1002
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 1: got out that Jimmy wants out, and we got a

1003
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: list of his preferred destinations, and yesterday Shams tweeted out

1004
00:45:55,800 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 1: that I think that the destinations were what Dallas, Houston State.

1005
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 8: Golden State, Right, those are the three yes.

1006
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:07,760
Speaker 1: And then Shams yesterday tweeted that he has added Phoenix

1007
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 1: to his list of you know, preferred destinations. And I'm

1008
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: gonna read the tweets from the agent because I do

1009
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: not want to short change this.

1010
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:15,800
Speaker 8: If you didn't.

1011
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 5: Wait dog.

1012
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,800
Speaker 1: Okay, So the agent's name is Bernard Lee, and he

1013
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:23,720
Speaker 1: tweeted all right, listen.

1014
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 5: When I saw that, I was like, holy ship, Like

1015
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:26,240
Speaker 5: that first.

1016
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 3: Sentence, I was like, okay, you could be in the background.

1017
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 5: I gave you a pass yesterday because I was busy.

1018
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 1: But if you don't stop putting my name when you're

1019
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 1: complete and utter made up bullshit, because you know nor

1020
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: you normally aren't worth my time to acknowledge. Then he

1021
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 1: put parentheses continued, goes on to another tweet. I don't

1022
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 1: know what I'm going to do because I'm a middle

1023
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 1: aged dad, but I love it.

1024
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 5: I love that as awareness.

1025
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:56,320
Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm gonna do because I'm a

1026
00:46:56,320 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: middle aged dad. But no, it would indicate severe dislike

1027
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: world dot dot dot all, this is fabricated. I have

1028
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:10,720
Speaker 1: never and honestly, it wouldn't help me or the position

1029
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 1: I represent to do anything that's been reported by said journalists,

1030
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 1: journalists quo quotes.

1031
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 3: That's that's the kicker. You put journalists in quotes.

1032
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he says, Chams, this is your opportunity, this

1033
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 1: is your opportunity to say my bad. I let chat

1034
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: GPT write my tweets and then went old school Peter VESSI.

1035
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 1: Then he puts in parentheses, Chams, Peter was a writer

1036
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: in the nineties. Another jab at his journalism there yeah, yeah,

1037
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 1: and his age dude be a trend center in the

1038
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 1: new I was hat carry on, thank you listen, bro.

1039
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: When this shit came down my timeline yesterday, I legitimately

1040
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 1: thought it was a troll.

1041
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 3: I had to check it wasn't sentel. I thought it

1042
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 3: was sentil Bro.

1043
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 5: I thought.

1044
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: I thought, Okay, this is someone who changed their profile

1045
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: to the to to Jimmy's agent, and it's getting these

1046
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: tweets off.

1047
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 8: And then I saw Mickey Yerrison retweet the ship and

1048
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 8: I was like, oh.

1049
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, and I went and I had to

1050
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 1: go check Mickey's for that Twitter and I went and

1051
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 1: checked his media and there was Mickey doing all types

1052
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: of rich guy ship. So I was like, Okay, this

1053
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 1: is legit right right there. Used to be a way

1054
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 1: we used to tell who was real on Twitter before

1055
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:19,240
Speaker 1: Elon came along.

1056
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 4: You know.

1057
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, but Bro, that is just so wild to me,

1058
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: especially in this in this fledgling era, that that that

1059
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,800
Speaker 1: shins is in its kind of the new figurehead of

1060
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:35,280
Speaker 1: yes in this arena and in the basketball scoop arena.

1061
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 1: It's like, Bro, he told you not only is your

1062
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 1: scoop wrong, he told you he doesn't like you, and

1063
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: he told you do not speak on him. I was like, yeah,

1064
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: I was like, Broke, I've watched that, and I was like,

1065
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 1: for one, Wold would not have gotten this scoop wrong,

1066
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 1: and two, woldan not to let that man talk to

1067
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 1: him like that, Like, and this isn't a shot at

1068
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 1: at at Bernard Lee at the agent's me's trying to

1069
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: say he's someone who knows who to pick with.

1070
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 5: It's just we've seen what WOJ will and will not tolerate.

1071
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 1: We saw him tell that Republican congressman to go fuck

1072
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 1: himself with the emailed right, Yeah, like like like, I

1073
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 1: know that WOG would have set that dude straight if

1074
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 1: he came at him like that, But Wold would have

1075
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: been in that situation because I'm sure he would enough

1076
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 1: came out here with some false information like that. But

1077
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: I'm just confused at how Sham's got this one so long,

1078
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 1: because we all know Shams is the agent guy, right

1079
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 1: and and Wolj is the front office guy. So I'm

1080
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: just very confused that where he got this information from.

1081
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 1: And I hope he get some clarity on Shim's part,

1082
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 1: but it looks like Shams is just ignoring this shit, bro,

1083
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 1: so he's a.

1084
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 8: Robot, the Chat has said.

1085
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 7: The Chat has informed us that he went on like

1086
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 7: Sports Center this morning stood by and said that he

1087
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 7: backed his reporting, but has not explicitly said whether he's spoken.

1088
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 6: To Bernie Leer that feels like something that you would

1089
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 6: mention if you had right to clear your name, Like, no,

1090
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 6: this reporting came directly from his mouth, I have receipts

1091
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 6: like blah blah blah, you know what I mean. And

1092
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,760
Speaker 6: if it didn't come directly from his agent, then dropping

1093
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 6: his agent's name and the reporting is wild. That is flagrant,

1094
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 6: Like if that's not where you got the information from,

1095
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 6: like using that as he basically named him as a source. Yeah,

1096
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 6: Like just from a reporting perspective, it's a crazy.

1097
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 2: One thing Claire and I could both confirm for everyone

1098
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 2: is that as a reporter, when you start referring to

1099
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 2: the reporting as a like separate entity, it is usually

1100
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:24,879
Speaker 2: not a sign that things are going well.

1101
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 4: You know what I mean, The reporting was vetted.

1102
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 3: And I I mean luckily, you know, knock on wood.

1103
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 6: I've never had I've never had anyone like come back

1104
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 6: and question anything that I've said. But I definitely, you know,

1105
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 6: there is a real phenomenon that like sometimes things come

1106
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 6: out that people didn't think we're gonna come out, and

1107
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 6: then they'll go back and say that they're false when

1108
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 6: they're true. But in Sham's position, like if you're going

1109
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 6: to use Jimmy Butler's agent's name in the original reporting

1110
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 6: and say like, per this person, you know you you

1111
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 6: either need to have communicated to him that you're going

1112
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 6: to go public with this, or at least have talked

1113
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:06,320
Speaker 6: to him. So that's that's the thing that's like not

1114
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 6: quite the dots aren't connecting for me, is like I

1115
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 6: would imagine that if you were going to use someone's

1116
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 6: name like that, that they had to at least communicate.

1117
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 6: Maybe it was a miscommunication, I guess as possible, But

1118
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 6: that's for him to just make it up and use

1119
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 6: his name, Like, I don't know, I don't see that happening.

1120
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,320
Speaker 6: I'm not trying to give Chams too much credit, but

1121
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 6: like you're working at ESPN and you're you're using your

1122
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 6: naming names and your story like you talk to somebody.

1123
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 9: Yeah, but Bernie Lee didn't even know how to thread.

1124
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 9: He didn't even know how to thread the tweet. That's

1125
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 9: why I believe him.

1126
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:39,879
Speaker 4: He was that mad.

1127
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 5: He waited and found the tweet again three times to

1128
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 5: write how he felt that Nigga was hot.

1129
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 9: You feel what I'm saying, so, bro, I feel like

1130
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 9: he had been lied on and he was sick, like

1131
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 9: I don't know, you're not a thread. I'm gonna let

1132
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 9: him know feel all the metough I got more to

1133
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 9: say fuck.

1134
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 5: It, you know what I mean.

1135
00:51:56,719 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 2: So I did have one person I interviewed tried to like,

1136
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 2: called my boss and said that I didn't say that,

1137
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 2: and he which he did say it, and I had

1138
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 2: to record it and he ended up getting fired over it,

1139
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 2: which is why he was calling my boss, trying to

1140
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 2: get me in trouble or whatever.

1141
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 4: But that's why we record that. What he said was

1142
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 4: crazy also, and it was on the record. It was

1143
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 4: a high school.

1144
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 2: Girls soccer coach and he said that he felt the

1145
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 2: R word by the officials of the high school of

1146
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 2: soccer game. Uh, and I the hard R word, no,

1147
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 2: like he felt the word for sexual assault, which I

1148
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 2: won't even use because of how crazy it was for

1149
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 2: him to say it. And I quoted him in the

1150
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,839
Speaker 2: story and he said, I didn't say that. He said

1151
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 2: I felt wrecked, and I was like, that's not what

1152
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 2: you said, homie.

1153
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 5: You had to report that. He needed to get the

1154
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 5: away from you.

1155
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 4: Said, yeah, it's crazy.

1156
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 1: So where do y'all think we're at with this Jimmy drama?

1157
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:10,879
Speaker 1: The more I think about it, the more I don't

1158
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 1: think Jimmy is going anywhere.

1159
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 9: Bro.

1160
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 1: I think this is just an argument that Jimmy has

1161
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 1: had with management and with Raleigh that has gotten a

1162
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 1: bit too out of hand, and there was probably some

1163
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 1: emotions there and because you know, we've we've seen before

1164
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 1: that that they've had these types of dust stuffs, right, Like,

1165
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 1: and I honestly think pat Riley is a dude who

1166
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,359
Speaker 1: enjoys a good scuffle, right And I honestly think he's

1167
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 1: a dude who low key will not respect a star

1168
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 1: player who does who isn't willing to butt heads back

1169
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 1: with him.

1170
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 5: You know what I mean?

1171
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 2: So, Bro, pat Riley and Jimmy Butler are both Italians,

1172
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like in the way that

1173
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 2: they communicate with people and deal with interpersonal relationships like

1174
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 2: this is like part of that.

1175
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I agree with you one hundred.

1176
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 2: This is just part of the process of like them

1177
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 2: working together is just gonna be some some conflict like this.

1178
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 6: And Jimmy just opened his flagship big coffee shop in Miami,

1179
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 6: so in the design district, I believe. So, I mean,

1180
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:08,720
Speaker 6: that's like quite an investment to make in in Miami.

1181
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 6: If you're not planning on staying there. But the only

1182
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 6: thing I will say, as far as like Devil's Advocate,

1183
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 6: he has a player option next year, I believe, and

1184
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 6: if Miami's gonna get something for him, like he could

1185
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 6: opt out and become a free agent. Like so, I

1186
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:27,919
Speaker 6: think Miami is incentivized to move him just because they're

1187
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 6: either gonna move him now or potentially lose him for nothing.

1188
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 3: So I would say that that that would be the

1189
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 3: only reason I would think I'm leaning.

1190
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:41,240
Speaker 6: I would say, like sixty percent he's not going anywhere.

1191
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 6: Forty he gets moved at the deadline just because of

1192
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 6: the asset retention or whatever the like.

1193
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:47,720
Speaker 3: Fancy.

1194
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 1: I think Jimmy's at the stage in his career where

1195
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 1: you're not going to get a star back in return

1196
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 1: for him. You're gonna get, Yeah, you might get a kid,

1197
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 1: you know, a player to come up in some picks.

1198
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:01,800
Speaker 5: Right, that's what you can do.

1199
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 1: And I feel like we just haven't seen Miami go

1200
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: and blow it up rebuilding mode and damn near our

1201
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 1: whole lifetime, right. I don't think pat Raley's that guy.

1202
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 1: Pat Raley's like seventy five years old. He doesn't have

1203
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 1: time for that shit. I think he's constantly in win

1204
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 1: now mode. And yeah, you know, like I said, I

1205
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: think it's just it's just a little you know, uh,

1206
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 1: you know, Jimmy and and management and ownership button heads

1207
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 1: and they got a little too public, and I don't

1208
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 1: think anything's gonna come up.

1209
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 9: You remember when Nip hopped out there on Twitter and

1210
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 9: said that him and Lauren Lennon had broke up, and

1211
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 9: then Lauren Lunnon was like, let's go to lunch. Like

1212
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 9: you know what I'm saying, That's how this is gonna end. Like, bro, boys, stop,

1213
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 9: come on, you know what I'm saying. I'm about to

1214
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 9: pull up. Let's go get some mint.

1215
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 1: And now you know what I mean, that's what it

1216
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 1: feels like, like like you've ever seen that Facebook, folks,

1217
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 1: We're to do something. I'm tired of my girl always

1218
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 1: trying to run me, get on my nerves. And she

1219
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 1: responded to her said, boy, come downstairs so we can

1220
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 1: go to eat. It's very that's very life interaction, very

1221
00:55:58,440 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 1: real life.

1222
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 3: Very he coould have quietly been kind of good lately.

1223
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 6: Like it's not like they're bottom dwellers in the East,

1224
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 6: like they're they're right in the mix like they always are,

1225
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:08,959
Speaker 6: you know, like they had a kind of a rough start.

1226
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 3: But I think, what are they like fifth six in

1227
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 3: the east right now?

1228
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 8: I think it's something like that.

1229
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 3: Sorry, I should have looked that up myself.

1230
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,720
Speaker 8: Before they're twelve and ten and their.

1231
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 4: Fifth Can we make fun of the state of Ohio? Now?

1232
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 4: Is it time to do that?

1233
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:25,319
Speaker 5: Oh?

1234
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 4: God?

1235
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 5: What is it a state? Or is it this weirdo?

1236
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 2: A law maker in the state of Ohio has proposed

1237
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 2: a new law called the Ohio Sportsmanship oh h Io

1238
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 2: o h Io Sportsmanship Act that would make it a

1239
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 2: felony to plant a flag. I want to be clear

1240
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 2: about this, not at any stadium's midfield, only at midfield

1241
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 2: of an Ohio State game, because they especially need this

1242
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 2: extra protection. He says he's doing it in the name

1243
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 2: of play, your safety and sportsmanship. Tyler, what are your thoughts.

1244
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:08,359
Speaker 1: On I want to I want to first, I want

1245
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 1: to I want to say that I have to say

1246
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 1: that this isn't on Ohio and this isn't on Ohio

1247
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 1: State fans, because if you check the mentions on that,

1248
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 1: there were so many Ohioans and so many Ohio State

1249
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 1: fans saying no this is not what we do right,

1250
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 1: This motherfucker win rogue. He is not tapped in to

1251
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 1: the people that he represents. He is not tapped into

1252
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 1: his constituents. He just made that lost so much worse

1253
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 1: for Ohio State and Ohio State fans. This is something

1254
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 1: we're gonna remember forever when we were, when we remember

1255
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 1: you know, this rivalry. And it's just like, Bro, Michigan

1256
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 1: made your local legislators try to pass legislation against against

1257
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 1: them because of the asshole they took. It's just I

1258
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 1: feel like I feel like Drake might of open Pandora's

1259
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 1: box here, dog.

1260
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 5: I feel like like the.

1261
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 1: The filing legislation because you get your feelings hurt. Like

1262
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 1: I feel like that might be the new wave. Now

1263
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 1: he might have been a trend center there. But it's

1264
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 1: just it's just, Bro, like I said, you can't put

1265
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 1: this on Ohio. You can't put this on Ohio State

1266
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 1: fans because they are not with this ship at all,

1267
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 1: as they shouldn't be.

1268
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 4: John. It is indeed a Republican lawmaker. And I'll show

1269
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 4: you of course.

1270
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, I looked at his face. I'm like, that's a

1271
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 5: Republican Nia face.

1272
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 9: But anyway, uh, But what's what's interesting to me was

1273
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 9: that he came out like it was like, this is

1274
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 9: what I'm doing for us, and everybody's like.

1275
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 5: Who's us?

1276
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 8: You know what I mean?

1277
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 3: Like, what doesn't even know this?

1278
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 5: I don't even know this man? You ain't you know

1279
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 5: what I'm saying? Have you seen him? What's his name?

1280
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 5: You know what I mean? Like that was he was

1281
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 5: just so like standing on it like this is exciting

1282
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 5: for everybody, Like, come on, bro, I.

1283
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 1: Saw I saw a an avvy with a golden Retriever

1284
00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 1: in an Ohio state scar saying what the fuck you do?

1285
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 5: Cut that man out?

1286
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 4: That your face? That is.

1287
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 3: That's the death knell right there.

1288
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 7: In the In the chat, we had someone Miles say

1289
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 7: when when I showed that picture? He just said in

1290
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 7: all caps with a question mark and an extmation point black.

1291
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 4: But yeah, I was.

1292
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 5: I was absolutely taking it back by that too. Then

1293
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 5: I was like Republican.

1294
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 6: I just love like with all the problems our society has,

1295
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 6: like there's so much wrong. There's like a laundry list

1296
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 6: a mile long of things we need, like people are hungry,

1297
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 6: and inflation and all these different things. He's like, you

1298
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 6: know what's wrong flags in the field. We really need

1299
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 6: to tackle that. That's my That's that's where I'm going

1300
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 6: to prioritize my time.

1301
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 2: You knew he was a Republican as well because he

1302
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 2: had a red tie, white shirt, and a blue jacket.

1303
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 4: And here's my question, why don't they ever mix up

1304
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 4: the combo?

1305
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 6: Bro?

1306
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 2: Why not a white jacket with a red shirt and

1307
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 2: a blue tie, you know what I mean? Why does

1308
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:12,479
Speaker 2: it always have to be the red tie and blue jacket?

1309
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 5: You know what I mean?

1310
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 4: Why not a red jacket, a blue shirt and a

1311
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 4: white tie.

1312
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 10: You know?

1313
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 3: That seems like.

1314
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 2: The funnier moment coming to us is when this dude

1315
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 2: gets like primaried, you know, by a probably an Ohio

1316
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 2: State player or something, and he has to answer the

1317
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 2: question of like why did you get voted out of office?

1318
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 2: And he's like, oh, well, you know, the people of

1319
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 2: Ohio wanted to preserve Michigan's right to embarrass the ship

1320
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 2: out of them.

1321
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 4: It's their right to humiliate us on our home field.

1322
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 2: Goddamn it, you can't take away their right as college

1323
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 2: football players.

1324
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 6: Funny people are so so like ess about their college

1325
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 6: sports traditions, Like you really can't mess with.

1326
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 3: It just gotta leave it.

1327
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, smile and nod yep.

1328
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 3: At whatever the weird traditions are.

1329
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 2: Here's a weird new college sports tradition. Bill Belichick has

1330
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 2: officially taken the job at the University of North Carolina.

1331
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 2: At first, I thought this was very weird and potentially

1332
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 2: somewhat creepy, given that his girlfriend, I believe, is college aged.

1333
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 8: What sliley older? She's like twenty four?

1334
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 4: Okay, he's seventy two.

1335
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 3: Seventy seven, absolutely be her grandpa.

1336
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, easily.

1337
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 8: He's born in nineteen fifty two.

1338
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 4: Save you.

1339
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 5: My mom was going on in fifty two.

1340
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:46,560
Speaker 4: Actually, hold on, let me think it same here. My

1341
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 4: mom was born. Bro. Can't really like see United's twenties

1342
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 4: year olds are not for you.

1343
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 5: Bill Belichick.

1344
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 3: I don't even want to date a twenty four year old.

1345
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 3: They're so young, likero.

1346
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 9: I remember when I turned in twenty eight, I had

1347
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 9: a rule that you couldn't be more than four years

1348
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 9: younger than me.

1349
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, because at that point it got like, I mean,

1350
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 5: and then you get older, twenty four young years you can.

1351
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 9: Say yeah, like brother, brother's five years younger than me.

1352
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 9: But I was thirty five when I met her. Thirty

1353
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 9: six when I met her, you know what I mean?

1354
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 3: So different?

1355
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but like in the twenties, like when

1356
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 9: you get under twenty five, Like, bro, like that's a

1357
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 9: and I'm and I'm and I'm closer to thirty.

1358
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 3: Like, bro, No, we just can't rent a car.

1359
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 5: You have no business dating and actual it should be illegal.

1360
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 4: That's the that's the How are you going to take

1361
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:35,880
Speaker 4: him to the hospital? You know what I mean? You

1362
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 4: can't even run a car, like you gotta have to

1363
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 4: have your car on you.

1364
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 6: Jill Belichick hav in common with a twenty four year

1365
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 6: old woman zero.

1366
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 3: You know, she's making him make tiktoks with her and

1367
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 3: ship He's like, what's on the tiki talk? Like what

1368
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:48,800
Speaker 3: even is that?

1369
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:52,919
Speaker 2: Like I would redeem it in my eyes if he's

1370
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 2: forced to become a TikTok contact.

1371
01:02:57,840 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 5: Filthy, filthy work.

1372
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 4: I will say this.

1373
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 2: I did start to have a little bit more interest

1374
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 2: in Bill Belichick as the coach at the University of

1375
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 2: North Carolina when I heard that his father was a

1376
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 2: coach at North Carolina and his first words were Duke sucks.

1377
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 2: According to Bill Belichick, that that that that explains it.

1378
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 2: I don't know that we have the footage.

1379
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 3: I'm going to I'm gonna go Bernie Lee and I'm

1380
01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 3: going to call.

1381
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 9: I don't know the people respond like there was like

1382
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:34,240
Speaker 9: was there a good response when he said that? Okay, cool, Okay, Well,

1383
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:35,919
Speaker 9: I mean yeah, it ain't got to beat the truth.

1384
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 9: As long as he got you know, he got the

1385
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 9: right people, he said, they said when.

1386
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 4: He interviewed for the job.

1387
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 2: I think the thought was that he was trying to

1388
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:44,960
Speaker 2: drive the cost up for NFL teams or whatever else.

1389
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 2: He Bill Belichick is a football history nut and his

1390
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 2: dad did start his career at North Carolina. And part

1391
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:54,440
Speaker 2: of the agreement is apparently that when Bill retires, his

1392
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 2: son gets to become the next head coach at North Carolina.

1393
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 2: So like there was that Lenny Inge thing I think

1394
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 2: in his mind.

1395
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:03,440
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, what what just happened?

1396
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 2: Part of what in the succession, yeah, is that when

1397
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 2: he retires, put nepotism in the contract contract.

1398
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 4: I don't know that it's in the contracts.

1399
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 3: The question for his new job. Yeah, that's that's so wild.

1400
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:25,800
Speaker 11: Hey man, we're pro neputarism on this podcast. Your son, yeah, yeah,

1401
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 11: saw me? Or or so the baby oh yeah, opportunity

1402
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 11: up like that.

1403
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 6: It's like an eighteen year old and your coach is

1404
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:40,200
Speaker 6: Bill Belichick, Like that's that's so much, that's so intense.

1405
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 6: You're trying to do like beer bongs and ship he's

1406
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 6: like the army.

1407
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 9: I wonder how that's going to affect like recruiting. I wonder, like,

1408
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 9: do people want to play? I mean he's he's yes,

1409
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:54,200
Speaker 9: you know, his great close his pitches.

1410
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 5: People want to play for anything.

1411
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:56,960
Speaker 4: His pitch is.

1412
01:04:57,400 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 2: I'm going to turn this into an NFL factory. He's

1413
01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 2: not going to be recruiting off of.

1414
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 4: We're trying to win the fucking to the Duke, but

1415
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 4: we're trying to get you to the league.

1416
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 9: Bro.

1417
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 2: The pitch is and I would assume that with him

1418
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 2: coming in, there will be a lot of money behind it.

1419
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 2: And I would assume that the recruiting they're doing is

1420
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 2: not seventeen year olds, but they're recruiting twenty two year

1421
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 2: olds out of the portal.

1422
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 4: They're saying, you come.

1423
01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:21,640
Speaker 2: Here, I'm gonna give you everything you need to know

1424
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 2: about how you're getting ready for the combine, how you're

1425
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 2: getting what teams actually want to see. Like, I think

1426
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 2: that's the pitch, and I do think that could be effective.

1427
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 2: There was also a report that he gave them a

1428
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:36,959
Speaker 2: four hundred page bible of what his plan for every

1429
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 2: layer of the North Carolina football program would be and.

1430
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 4: How to operate.

1431
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:42,960
Speaker 3: I knew he didn't want to be in broadcasting.

1432
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 6: He's at home writing a four hundred page bible about

1433
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 6: how to like reinvigorate UNC.

1434
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:54,160
Speaker 5: So here's my question, that manifesto question, John manifesto.

1435
01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 2: Why can we call a two hundred and sixty three

1436
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 2: word post manifesto.

1437
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 5: It's a minifes a minifesto, and.

1438
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 2: A four hundred page manifesto by Bill Belichick is a bible.

1439
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 3: And you can't say that North Carolina. That's for damn.

1440
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 9: They're gonna be on that head, gonna be the Bible belt,

1441
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 9: you know, is heavy over there, you feel me?

1442
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, it's right back to Connecticut or wherever

1443
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:26,240
Speaker 1: you're explaining some diabolical ship.

1444
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 5: It's a manifesto, bro, they're explaining, you know how how paragraph?

1445
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:34,680
Speaker 6: No, I know he has nothing in common with his girlfriend.

1446
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:37,280
Speaker 6: No twenty four year old in their right mind wants

1447
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 6: to sit there while their boyfriend rides a four hundred

1448
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 6: page breakdown of how to reinvigorate a college football program,

1449
01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 6: like come on, now, she's taking Maybe.

1450
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 9: That's why it works, you know, to see outside and

1451
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 9: he inside. They don't, you know what I mean, They

1452
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:55,680
Speaker 9: just got an agreement, you know what I mean. Crazy

1453
01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 9: in his study writing a time away.

1454
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:07,760
Speaker 5: Leave me alone, Do not interrupt me. I'm one and

1455
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 5: seventy six. I'm almost done all the way down. This

1456
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 5: is my greatest look right right right, you feel me?

1457
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 3: I have him in like the cliche like sleep cap.

1458
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 13: With like for sure, class out of him, candy behind him,

1459
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 13: you know what I mean. The firepace is crackling, you know,

1460
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:34,960
Speaker 13: me a bear hide over his shoulders, you know what

1461
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 13: I mean, Like I see all of it though.

1462
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:39,360
Speaker 2: Speaking of college though, like, at what point did he

1463
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:42,320
Speaker 2: start realizing he could get to four hundred pages? Like

1464
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 2: maybe it could have been a three hundred and sixty

1465
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 2: five page plan, and he was like, I could throw another.

1466
01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:51,520
Speaker 9: Thirty when inspiration hits you, brother, you listen, yeah, you

1467
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:54,000
Speaker 9: know what I mean. He just he just followed his

1468
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:56,720
Speaker 9: heart all the way to four hundred pages.

1469
01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 7: Think about every aspect of this though, like so many

1470
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:02,440
Speaker 7: college football play college athletes with college football players, or

1471
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:04,920
Speaker 7: like talk about their their head. Coach is like another

1472
01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:07,920
Speaker 7: second father figure or maybe a first part whatever, and

1473
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 7: how he helped them through so so much that I

1474
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:12,480
Speaker 7: had this struggle I got coach helped me through.

1475
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:13,919
Speaker 8: I had trouble in school whatever.

1476
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:15,920
Speaker 7: Can you imagine a twenty one year old going to

1477
01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 7: Bill Belichick and being like, Coach, my mom is sick

1478
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 7: and I got this thing this class.

1479
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 8: I gotta juggle, like what do I how do I

1480
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:25,680
Speaker 8: handle it? My girlfriend is upset about whatever, and he

1481
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:27,479
Speaker 8: just like show up at practice on time. I do

1482
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 8: not care like what like you know what I mean?

1483
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 4: Sometimes between your dreams and your family, I.

1484
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:36,920
Speaker 8: Had do your job.

1485
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 5: I had a high school.

1486
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:41,560
Speaker 9: My freshman coach would make us tell he was a

1487
01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:44,680
Speaker 9: bob night like he thought he was God right, had

1488
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:48,760
Speaker 9: us take notes, pin and paper after practice. I'm talking

1489
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:51,760
Speaker 9: about sweat dripping off my face onto the paper. We

1490
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:57,880
Speaker 9: had a booklet right writing writing notes after practice? Bro,

1491
01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:00,960
Speaker 9: you feel me like if you didn't, Bro, if you

1492
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:04,160
Speaker 9: didn't play like on a straight triple threat like binge

1493
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 9: your knees shoulder like it like he wanted us to

1494
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:08,639
Speaker 9: be robots out there.

1495
01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:08,840
Speaker 5: Bro.

1496
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 9: I went up to Jav and drop twenty. I said,

1497
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 9: fuck what they got going on? Wings like bro fuck

1498
01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:18,519
Speaker 9: oh it was horrible, bro crazy. So he kind of

1499
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:21,080
Speaker 9: seems like that to a degree. How he'll treat these

1500
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:23,760
Speaker 9: shorties that you know, can't speak to him, how like

1501
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:24,840
Speaker 9: NFL players could.

1502
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:27,600
Speaker 5: And I wonder how long it's gonna last when a

1503
01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:28,760
Speaker 5: motherfucker you could be walking there.

1504
01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:30,760
Speaker 9: And yes, I'm a NFL factory, but you gotta read

1505
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:32,879
Speaker 9: this four hundred page bible.

1506
01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:34,040
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.

1507
01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:36,800
Speaker 2: The only thing I ever reading the college football is

1508
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:40,040
Speaker 2: that it does not resemble anymore for better, for better

1509
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:40,679
Speaker 2: and worse.

1510
01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:43,120
Speaker 4: The This is the second father figure.

1511
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 2: This is like you have the ability with the NIL

1512
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 2: and portal era to have the exact program you want

1513
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:50,680
Speaker 2: to have. And so for people who want to be

1514
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:53,880
Speaker 2: the second father figure, Dabo, you don't have to take

1515
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 2: one dude out of the portal. But Bill Belichick, he's

1516
01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:59,559
Speaker 2: gonna get all grad transfers. They're all gonna be twenty three,

1517
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:01,760
Speaker 2: you know, Like I just I think that's what he's

1518
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:03,599
Speaker 2: gonna put together.

1519
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:07,320
Speaker 4: Looking like it. I like him.

1520
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:13,120
Speaker 9: I've heard it pronounced all different ways, but if you

1521
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:15,160
Speaker 9: if the accent is hard enough, you could.

1522
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:15,840
Speaker 4: Get it back to Davo.

1523
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:21,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, by the way, how about that?

1524
01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:24,720
Speaker 12: You know?

1525
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 2: All right, you guys got anything else? I think that's

1526
01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:33,240
Speaker 2: that's all the time we got. My wife just said

1527
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:35,360
Speaker 2: that sweet. It says, please don't invite me over. If

1528
01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:37,559
Speaker 2: you have a leather couch that's peeling, I will peel

1529
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:39,680
Speaker 2: it some more when you're not looking. That's true, she

1530
01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 2: will do that. Oh yes, oh yes, how do you not? Yea,

1531
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:44,439
Speaker 2: how do you not?

1532
01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 5: It's begging you.

1533
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:49,840
Speaker 3: Anyway, Maybe you should get a new couch.

1534
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:54,000
Speaker 4: Maybe they should. But what does that say on the

1535
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:55,639
Speaker 4: wall behind you? I just see the word yearning?

1536
01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 3: Oh, I can move my mic.

1537
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:04,720
Speaker 5: Oh we're pro yarners here we are?

1538
01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:05,439
Speaker 4: We are?

1539
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1540
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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's crazy board.

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01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 3: That's actually a two sided poster.

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Speaker 6: And the other side, which is why I originally bought it,

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01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:23,960
Speaker 6: was a little salacious and it was in the background

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01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:26,840
Speaker 6: of every like podcast appearance and June I was in

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01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:27,880
Speaker 6: and so I.

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01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 3: Flipped the other side.

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01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:32,680
Speaker 5: This is the pod. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that I.

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01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:36,320
Speaker 6: Purchased says prayers whatever you say on your knees, which

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01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:39,200
Speaker 6: I just thought was like an incredible poster and loved it.

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01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:43,640
Speaker 6: And I have a lot of like, like I just like, like,

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01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:46,120
Speaker 6: you know, kind of slightly controversial art or whatever. So

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01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:47,519
Speaker 6: I have a lot of like naked lady art and

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01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:49,840
Speaker 6: stuff in my house, so it kind of went with

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01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 6: the theme. And then people started commenting, like in the

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01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:55,240
Speaker 6: YouTube comment sections of podcasts.

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01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:56,519
Speaker 3: I was on, and stuff is like does that say?

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01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 4: And I'm like, you know what, the Internet sure does

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01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 4: ruin everything for everyone.

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Speaker 6: And I actually do like the sentiment of this one

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01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:08,960
Speaker 6: as well. It's not the reason I purchased it, but

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01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:10,519
Speaker 6: I'm happy with this one too.

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Speaker 5: It's like you're recording in your home, you know what

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01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:13,280
Speaker 5: I mean.

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Speaker 3: Like, you know, I wish I could go somewhere else, but.

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01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:21,880
Speaker 6: Just a little upstart, you know, girls with a dream

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01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:23,519
Speaker 6: and this ending media world.

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01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:28,559
Speaker 5: So my host it is, yeah, we're all at our home.

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01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:32,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it's not I can control the dervist

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01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:33,599
Speaker 4: at here. All right, that's all the times we got

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Speaker 4: for today.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back on Sunday night as far as I know,

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01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:37,599
Speaker 2: and we will see yelling

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Speaker 1: The volume